User talk:Scrawland Scribblescratch/Archive 7

MaxSysa
Go to the talkpage of the portal. Its time we got down to business. Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:30, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Check
I've asked Wikia to look into it. Lordganon (talk) 03:44, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

'''I'M BACK! BOnjour, i thought you should be the first person i talk to since my return. First things first, hows everything going? I hope Aragon hasnt become anything bad in PM2. Anyways my first plan is to get the VRR game started back up again. I dont care about Vive La Revolution Revived, I(and im pretty sure you agree) dont think we should waste almost 100 years of play just because i left. I am starting a MAJOR revival campaign to get former players back. I am rolling the game back to 1873, the year before i left when everything was fine and dandy. I need your help. Dont erase anything. Try to remove the "defunct games" tag please im not sure how to do that.AP (talk) 04:28, October 25, 2012 (UTC)'''

Arabian Failure map game
the game has begin so please begin posting Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:19, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

'''I need help bringing everyone back to VRR. Moreover, i think we should just hold onto Aragon and keep the Iberian peninsula as our playground. Any room for Sweden/Scandinavia? My plan is to resist Protestantism and remain Catholic that way our countries can be peaceful and allied. A unified Scandinavia is a strong Scandinavia. I plan (if possible) to join the HRE. I need help fighting the Russias(Muscovy, Novgorod,etc) IF they present a threat to unification. I also plan on making the Baltic an inner Swedish/Scandinavian Sea. Moreover, i intend on having colonies similar to those of otl England if possible if not i'll take whatever's there.AP (talk) 04:48, October 26, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''So i take it they won't do anything. Anyways we already allied to you lol. Uhm as for the colonial ambitions, that'll be hard because everyone is colonizing; not just me but a lot of other counntries. Denmark will be Scandinavian i'll hekp you outt in anything else. AP (talk) 05:08, October 26, 2012 (UTC) '''

'''Is it possible to buy a small coastal area in Aragon? Or maybe the Baleares? BTW what are we going to do in regards to Granada? I say that we should unify Spain using Aragon and kick the Muslims out, i have some other plans if you wish to hear them. AP (talk)King Erik III of Sweden or AP (talk) 03:15, October 28, 2012 (UTC)'''

AvAre
Québec agrees to have the American Dollar ($) as it's national currency. Québec offers trade deal to the USA. Wood, wood pulp, paper, iron ore, moose steaks, elk steaks and reindeer steaks are on offer. We offer an alliance with the USA.90.244.91.81 19:25, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Québec wishes to form alliances and a trade deals with grey Iceland, Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Is it OK with the mods, or do I need a Random number. org thing first.The River Nile-2 (talk) 19:08, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, i am Sweden. I am willing to hand Schleswig-Holstein to you if you help me take over all of Finland within a decade. I'll throw in help in another war if that offer wasnt enough lol. Now, how about my last offer? My expanding navy would like a small-relatively largeport in the Mediterranean. I offer to purchase a port in Aragon or the Baleares Islands.AP (talk) 19:12, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bro, talk to Lx. 3 way war?

Anyways, Muscovy will not be interested in that, apart from the mandatory military aid. Have fun.

Awesome way to piss off the Caliphate- use their talkpage to post your plans for what you're going to do when they fall. trololololololololol.

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:28, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

What's this with the Russians partaking in our venture next decade? I thought the deal was between you and me, for all of Schleswig and all of Finland respectively. I wont allow them to take more from Finland than what the Russians have in OTL.AP (talk) 03:01, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

I've been planning to restore the Ottoman Empire from the beginning of the game (just got caught up with Persia), and I already have an invasion force ready to march into Iraq, and I've already invaded Syria and Lebanon. You'll have fight me for whatever you want there. My suggestion would be to take Israel, Jordan, Yemen, Western Saudi Arabia, and whatever else is on your side of the canal. I plan to go into Kuwait after taking Iraq. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 19:21, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

But I'm already withdrawing from Persia. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 19:29, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Funny bit about that is that I ended my invasion of Bulgaria a few turns back. So I suppose I'll go ahead with my invasion of Iraq in the next turn. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 19:33, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, I thought you were the United States? What happened? ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 00:26, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the congrats. Now I shall go on to take the world with my legion of edits. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 21:33, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

What's up with the random breaking of ties?AP (talk) 22:37, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

I shall overpower you in time... ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 22:54, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Way to help an ally. Why would you side with Scotland? They declared war on me, with a BS casus belli: "imaginary pirates threatening their shipping lanes." I don't understand this. I did NOT give you Schleswig-Holstein yet because our campaign in Finland has not begun, i would never give you something before i've received what our deal said i would get. AP (talk) 23:01, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. But I feel like Lurk will somehow find a way to pin it on me. I mean, he didnt make it a mod event; he just posted it during his turn in 1504. In fact not only did he make up the pirates as an excuse for war but he also made up that diplomatic meetings regarding the pirates "failed." Come on, that can't be right! And might i add that Norway is a part of Sweden who is a part of the larger Scandinavian Realm. They would surely beat Scotland in an algorithm or have at least tied/cut it close. They won by a pretty large margin which i thought was totally unfair.AP (talk) 23:15, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Bonjour, i'd like to let you know that our Finland campaign wont be necessary because i peacefully acquired Finland. Its better, i dont want Lurk or anyone else using that as an excuse to have them declare independence later on. Since no campaign took place, i'll throw in any help i can to you(need to fully recover from that civil war). In other news, i feel a threat from the Muslims and their Caliphate. I fear for our Russian friends. Why cant we unify most of Christendom like they are doing with the Umma? I want to do my part as a Catholic nation following the one true faith, i would like to possibly join the HRE. I have a plan for the Reformation, if youre worried about that. Let me know.AP (talk) 07:12, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

How did I do that? Anyway i dont understand why I cant join as Scandinavia. That would negate what i've been working on for years. If it doesnt work out I'll just ally myself to the other important states in the HRE(you, Austria, Bavaria, any others i'm forgetting).AP (talk) 22:40, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah i had a feeling that size would matter xD. Well if anything maybe i can join as some observer state? I think that I should just pursue excellent relations instead and ally with you guys. That way when teh Reformation comes, we'll obliterate the heretics and maintain the integrity of the one true faith.68.8.204.28 23:08, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hey how do you put pictures in the Nation info box like on nation pages for PMII? I cant seem to do it.AP (talk) 04:09, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Napoleon's World (My Replies)
In this TL, the Mexican Cession includes Baja California, which becomes the state of Peninsula. France lands the first man on the moon (should be on the Timeline page in the 1970s), and the Eiffel Tour is the Eiffel Tower. It's not Paris without it.

I like your Mr. T idea, I will include it. So would this Alternative A-Team be set in the 1920s instead of the 1980s, I assume...?

KingSweden (talk) 00:39, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

When would the show have aired? 1980s? 1990s?

KingSweden (talk) 03:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Occurance
Just wikia messing with things again. Don't worry about it. Lordganon (talk) 04:13, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

A Darker Place
um can you put an underconstruction sign on the tl i want to make sure its not adopted or deleted, i havent been writing because im planning out and studying how things can turn out within the world im creating.along with studying historical people who would still exist at this point the tl and events that might happen the culture and all that. Nkbeeching

About your offer, i think that it would be better to actually have a way to define the colonies' borders.on North America, my minimal goal is basically to have part of New Enmgland and have a outlet to the great lakes, so i propose the Mohawk river, and the OPL border of Connecticut and Massachusetts with New York as the border for our colonies.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:26, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

1892 electoral college
Hey Scraw. I was hoping you could help me with the electoral college for the 1892 election in Nelson's Death.

Yeah. That's the right map. And yes, I want the numbers on the state. Thanks for doing it. Enclavehunter (talk) 20:39, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think the war in America concerns you really. But whatever. I have consulted LG and the others about the CSA and everything checked out fine. The Mexican states are only on the CSA side to rejoin Mexico/Aztlan. The Horse flu thing doesnt affect humans and all happened exactly as it is written in-game. The New York Stock Market crashed OTL and, given the war situation, would exacerbate a depression. I need to go, I'll see what happens if anything we have that new one to fall back on.AP (talk) 04:27, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

We need to settle on a border for our Antillian colonies. My colony, Nye Norge, is already in New York. However it has been expanding towards Lake Ontario and will circle around the Lakes and the St Lawrence to reach its expansion in Vermont. Basically, im going around the water's edge to connect to my Canadian colony. I don't want to cut off your expansion at the Hudson, especially since your colony is less than 5 years old and can only expand 50 sqkm a year. So thats what i'm gonna do. BTW Nye Norge already occupies north New jersey to prevent confusion. Get back to me please.AP (talk) 20:38, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry you have some fixation on New York, but thats not happening. I'll expand along the southern border to Lake Ontario but that's it. Portugal is my ally, and our heirs are married so that's not happening. Sorry, but you came a little too late to North America. "Calling" something doesnt work, anywhere. This isnt a firefight, so just please calm down a little. I try to kindly achieve a border treaty and you go off on me.AP (talk) 20:52, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

It's an extension of one colony, not another one. So yeah.AP (talk) 21:04, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Pennsylvania has a border with New York... And you can't vassalize Indian nations in one turn. AP (talk) 21:08, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

How about i dont expand into the New York Area? I don't want to compete with Portugal in Brazil. I feel a colonial war coming in Atlantia, with Castille and Burgundy in Brazil it'll only be worse...AP (talk) 21:16, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'll wait for it then. Expect King Erik of Scandinavia to be there! BTW Our kids are set to marry next turn as their both 15 right?AP (talk) 21:26, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Separate discussion:

I've been reading up on the Caliphate and I fear for Europe, seriously. Their "Mahdi" is set to come soon and they claim the Caliphate under his rule will be super expansionist, so say them. I'm guessing they mean north into Europe. That means Russia first, then me. What is the long term plan for them?AP (talk) 21:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Nope, not Russia. We have a treaty that I doubt they will break (sorta nonaggression). Anyway, Scandanavia is safe, as are you, scraw, and Andr (I specified that you two wouldn't be touched in a any such war, or for that matter most of the German HRE). When they go superexpansionist, they'll go east, then into the med. leaving all of us ready to pick up the pieces and double the size of our countries after they fall apart. The Royal Guns (talk) 23:28, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Antillian Division
where will it happen(by that I mean on what page)-Lx (leave me a message) 21:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re:DFTBA
*Brain Explodes*

Um... wow! Not sure what to say, so let's start from the beginning.


 * Asia

Makes sense (I also have the Chinese being an Axis in Russian America). And depending on how positive the Russo-Japanese relations would be, I kinda doubt the Russians would just willingly give up their control of Manchuria without a fight (which the Russians lost OTL). But seeing Sakhalin being divided (which only happened because the Japanese won the Russo-Japanese War), then I can assume it did happen?

Mengjiang was a puppet-government propped by the Japanese and controlled by the Chinese, but was populated by Mongols. For simplicity, it was a Japanese puppet-government for Inner Mongolia (more or less). If Russia were to gain it, it would have been merged into Mongolia. I just came across the fact that the only reason that Inner Mongolia was not reunited with Outer Mongolia (i.e., Mongolia) was because both the Chinese and the Soviets were allies in WWII. So with China an Axis, the Soviets would want to unite the Mongols.

As for Uyghuristan, I would say the Russians may grab it. After all, it is part of Turkestan (so are Kazakhstan and all of Central Asia).


 * Russia

"Guberniya" means Governorate in Russia (which can be translated as Province in English). Your governorates for Russia look more like Soviet Republics rather than what became of the. Governorates are population-based, rather than the ethnic-based republics of the Soviet Union.

I am not familiar with most of the people you mentioned here, so I don't think I am any help towards Russia's chancellors.


 * United States

Looks quite good to me. I especially like the Greater Alaska. My only questions would be if Russia were to gain Hawaii ("M-Mr. Green, but house don't have feet.") and the Philippines (not to mention a bigger Alaska), why would they give it the the US? I would also add that Colorado and Utah should be added (Colorado was admitted because of Gold, and Utah was home to Mormons). The only other thing I would like to add is that "Cascadia" doesn't seem like a goof name for that state. The Cascades are centered around what you have as "Columbia." May I suggest "" or "" as an alternative?

As for the presidents, they seem okay to me. But I doubt Robert E. Lee would be president. First off, he was the part of the CSA. But if this has been accounted ATL, then may I add that he died in 1870. LOL.


 * Conclusion

That's all I can add to this. Sorry if I have disappointed you. TTFN. DFTBA. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Asia 2.0

Yep, the Russians had their eyes on Manchuria. Primarily for (which they called Dalny), and the fact that it would give Russia a year-round ice-free port for the Pacific Fleet. They also built the for the region. Russia also had their eyes on Korea, which lead to (which Russia lost, leading the way for Manchukuo).


 * Russia 2.0

It depends on what this Russia is. Now that I think about it, they could act much like the countries of the UK, or how the proposed would have worked. Name-wise, I couldn't say. Republic is out of the question (republics and monarchies don't mix). Maybe "state" or "krai," but it's up to you.

As for the chancellors you mentioned, I doubt Stalin would be chancellor, same for Rasputin (with regular Putin being a stretch).


 * USA 2.0

Well you did say "wait for it... the Russians," so I thought you were talking about Crash Course (Mongols DFTBA). Other than that, I guess this could work.

I see... so no "New Caledonia." Hm... maybe "New Vologda" (where Ivan Kuskov is from)? But since it's Russian, then maybe Cascadia isn't so bad.

Lee being part of the Union would be interesting (would make the war shorter for one). But he still dies a year after he takes office (from what you put in).


 * Conclusion 2.0

Glad I wasn't a disappointment. Also, who said that?

I am sorry, but I don't know what your signature means. Care to enlighten me?

Epic Rap Battles of History? Didn't they just do a rap between Doc Brown and Doctor Who? If this is what you are talking about, then I have indeed heard of them, but only recently. My sister showed me this video only recently... so yeah. Lol. *Nerdfighter solute* --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:47, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Asia 3.0

It's up to you.


 * Russia 3.0

Hm... from what you describe to me, it sounds like a constitutional monarchy with federation elements put in.

kinda means "territory" or "borderlands." During the Russian Empire, several governorates were organized into Krais. My guess would be that these Krais evolve into ethnic-based government within Russia. Think of it like how the UK is divided into. It is even believed the naming origin of the Ukraine is from the word (Ukraine).

Right, forgot about that aspect (you mentioned this before).


 * USA 3.0

When you mentioned Hawaii as being Russian, you said "wait for it...RUSSIANS!" I thought that you were referring to John's constant quotation "wait for it... the MONGOLS!" But whatever. ^^;

Beringia (or just Bering) could work, provided that Bering goes that far south (but that name seems more appropriate for the Bering Sea region). Maybe "Baranov" (after ), "Pavlovia" or "Pavel" (after, who helped establish Alaska as being Russian OTL), and maybe "Saint Herman" (after ). But that's all I got.

Not sure what to say about Oregon. But if America wanted it, America is going to get it.


 * Randomness 4.0

OMG... I know what you are talking about... sadly. That Hitler meme. Lol, nice one!

Oh really? Well I just subscribed to them, so let's wait and see. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:39, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Asia Resurrection

Okay...


 * Russia Resurrection

Oh stupid me *slaps forehead* I completely forgot about this being Peter's doing. But... I am so confused. If you would like, can you explain how Russia evolved? Because here is how I see it.

With Peter the Great being liberal, he still divided Russia into Governorates (which are only regional and still controlled from a central government). As time progresses, Russia becomes a federation, with the governorates being combined into ethnic-based Krais. If I am wrong, please correct me.


 * America... Fuck Yeah!

Don't divide Alaska!

Baranovia is okay. If you are now looking for a new name for Columbia... than now is your chance to use Cascadia.


 * Randomness x 105

Really? Nice! All I ever did in school was play the trombone. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:18, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Argh!!!

Well, glad I could help. Glad I got Russia right, so governorates or krais will work. Other than that, can't wait to see how it turns out. Also (before I forget), congratulations on 100 pages. ^_^ --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:26, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the video. Also, question. When did Russia develop to become a federation? I am talking with a friends who may be able to help out what to call the subdivisions of Russia. But he needs a rough date when it happened (since you seem to be telling me that it happened after Peter the Great's reforms). --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:35, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Rally? Nice. I made this (random, but I guess worth showing). I don't mind being the middle man, but it's up to you. I will make mention of the date to him, and you can decide whether to take my place. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:50, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why, but when you said "Sweden" and "Russia," all I think of is the Crash Course episode showing a Russian and a Swede arguing over Kiev (LOL). Otherwise, I am not an expert on Sweden to really give a good answer. Aside from land and coastline, why would the Russian's want a bunch of Swedes to now govern. However, given that Russia and Denmark were allies (I believe by this time), it might be of interest to consider a Dano-Russian alliance in such a war. Besides that, not too sure what to think. Definitely interesting. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:17, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delayed response. If you don't mind me saying, your flags for Baranov and Alaska seem too... complex and busy for my liking. Off the top of my head, I would believe that Alaska's flag (if trying to avoid Benny Benson's flag) should be based on the Russian-American flag. I do remember a flag I came across months ago, which was the RAC flag with gold instead of red (representing the gold in the region, which may be much better for this Alaska). Here's the link for it. Not sure what to say for Baranov, maybe something playing off of the flag for the (where Baranov was from, which would just mean a variant of St. Andrew's Cross), but I don't have any ideas of the top of my head. But either way, it's up to you. As for Greece (before I forget), it depends on what Greece is. Maybe something like Greece's original flag . As for your tricolor idea, I have no idea either, lol. Hope this helps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 05:15, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

HRE
Hey BAvaria plans on establishing a colony in as of yet unclaimed OTL south Carolina. How would i do that exactly? Also do you have any plans for the future of the HRE and stuff? I'm interseted becuae we haven't talked recently about anything. Next election cycle Bavaria may back Brandenburg IDK yet.Andr3w777 (talk) 23:43, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Brandenburg Empire
Not a problem, ever heard of the Delhi sultanate? Controlled practically all India for 50 fucking years from the massively far north. No where close to most of the Empire. Any way, if any one complains, there's a green day song I think will help you, so just Let yourself go. The Royal Guns (talk) 23:53, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, well, when I said far north... that's a little too far. Out of curiosity, exactly how are your ships and orders reaching there?

And what the hell is your signature? The Royal Guns (talk) 23:53, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

remind me how i forgot lol.Andr3w777 (talk) 00:01, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I love those, lol. What's the star wars thing, though? The Royal Guns (talk) 00:06, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

OHH.

What does 'Syngrafeas..' mean, then? The Royal Guns (talk) 00:49, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yay for stupidity, lol (about me). The Royal Guns (talk) 00:49, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

AvARe
theres something thats bugging me so many players are joining all at once and ive never seen them before i smell sock puppets but im not sure please look into it.

china, italy, great britain, and spain are the nations i think are puppets. Nkbeeching

no worries thats called being a fellow member of the society right ?

also i just remembered want to offiacially join my timeline a darker place, i could use the spell check, the help with creating the pages and making them nice, but most importantly, im starting the russian timeline soon and i could use some help i have a rough idea but i could use someone elses help ill add you to the list of people in the timeline and give the proper credit, but on the topic of writing the actually story and timeline ill be the one that does that but for ideas and putting it together id love the help. Nkbeeching

AvaRe plans. I'll have alot to do since im the only non-player mod, with the war on Turkey coming soon(Pita asked me to, just saying in case you didnt see my post lol). I plan on having the East Arabian, Iraqi, Azeri, and Persian states welcome the invaders and rebel against Turkey on the grounds that they invaded them and all because no matter what Turkey believes-- they hate Turkey. I'll also have some retconning to do, you know how he is. He'll probably bomb Washington and Tokyo as soon as he realizes he was way in over his head. Ideas? Concerns? I want this to be a legit war, so none of you will have it easy. Turkey is a barren wasteland but the liberators will have to go through that barren wasteland lol.AP (talk) 08:18, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Alert
Yeah, that's one's a touch obvious. Blocked for a few days, figure we can see who it is after that when they freak out. Block them for good after that. Lordganon (talk) 03:25, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Bengal
Have you allied with them? The Royal Guns (talk) 00:48, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Scratch that, just got confirmation. Take a look at my talkpage, Lx's, Viva's, and Imp's, and change your mind. This could screw with the Solid Europe thing. Bengal is with the Caliphate. Just saying. The Royal Guns (talk) 01:13, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Good. Please REFRAIN. This could screw with all our plans for a LONG time. The Royal Guns (talk) 01:15, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Also, the Caliphate is attacking a felow Christian nation. Make a couple of noises in the HRE, please? we need to time the 'events' perfectly. The Royal Guns (talk) 01:16, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought the name 'HINDUstan' might tip one off, lol.

zAnyhoo. Get caught up on these plans. Shift is going down. The Royal Guns (talk) 01:18, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Man you have no idea how much of a good sign this is for me! Thanks man! I have accepted your offer and would like to get trading and business soon started. I wouldn't mind if you would help me against Bengal :). But I'll only ask for your help if things look bad. Is that fine with you? :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:19, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

I have threatened the enemy by saying if they get any aid from its allies, I will get aid too, because it looks like Von is going to aid them. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:16, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Wow! Really? Then I must ensure you get an enclave of land after the war in Bengal, lol. I got confused for a moment cause Brandenburg is where OTl Prussia would be, lol. I would be Team Himachal, but I'm uunsure about guns, lol! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 00:39, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

I got a feeling he's more team Chennai! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:51, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I am in need of your help, but I don't know if you sending help and it reaching me would be very plausible. The most I can do is send you guys a message about our plight and you to pressure the Caphilate into stoping any of their member nations from attacking me. So, yeah. :/ Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:44, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Hindustan has the stronest navy on the sub-continent. But right now, I need more than 25 alliance points! :/ Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:11, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Team Chennai, bro! MOOHAHAHAHAHA!

By the way, Scraw, So far I've seen you say you're part:

-Russian

-Indian

-African

-Chinese

Anything you're NOT part?

1526, get ready. The Royal Guns (talk) 23:19, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Also, get a damn vote in the HRE for 'possible actions of Aggression against the DME', make it vague, make it sound like it has a bark, not a bite. You have Venice. You need Milan. Bavaria is against you. This war is over if you don't get that agreement. The Royal Guns (talk) 23:48, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

But didn't you tell me that...

Whatever, I don't really want to know.

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:17, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

On the North Republic...
Greenland is mostly socialist. The USA has done nothing during the time I have been playing to help us. Japan has. We have good relations with the USA through our friends Quebec. However if you look at politics in both Iceland and Greenland it seems that it is mostly left-wing. It is barely ten years since McCarthyism.Besides which I am allowed to be 'diplomatic' when communicating as the North Republic. So no I don't think it is 'Retarded' at all. When I write Secret it means Stop Here any Casual Readers. Thank you for pointing out your opinion and trying to correct what you think is an error. However I am going to stick to my research on this one. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk)

So Emperor Wilhelm is almost 70 years old. I plan on having him die in the next few years, do you have anybody to reconmend for the Imperial throne. King Adame of Bavaria is old, his son is too young to rule, and there are no other Bavarian nobles that are qaulified enough to run for Emperor. If you've a suitable candidate let me kow please. (give me plenty of details if you would.) FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN! (love those Hitler parodies, never get tired of them)Andr3w777 (talk) 19:53, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, sorry about the whole Hindustan/Bengal mix-up. Anyways, what's going on with the Caliphate? I've been moving back and forth through talk pages and I still dont get it...

On an unrelated note: Do you remember that game, Lobositzs Lamentable Loss? I was reading up on it and i had to explode. SPAIN CONQUERED THE BALKANS FROM THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE. THEY ALSO DEFEATED NAPOLEONIC FRANCE AND ANNEXED TOULOUSE, BEARN, ETC BASICALLY SOUTHERN FRANCE. THEN THEY CONQUERED THE ITALIAN PENINSULA! This was so ridiculous, I had to tell someone. BTW these wars happened at around teh same time!

Another unrelated note: You're Indian? Cool. Since we're talking lineage, I(and by I, I mean my retired grandfather) have been doing research on my family tree. Turns out I am very distantly related to the Habsburg-Lorraine family. I'm pretty sure I'ts that one, but I might be wrong. TEAM AUSTRIA, TEAM VIENNA, TEAM BORDEAUX,TEAM LIMA, TEAM SAN DIEGO!AP (talk) 02:00, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

CA Flag
Hey Scraw. I looked on the internet and on other wiki's and could not find a map of the California flag you requested. Sorry, but I'll keep a look out for one. Enclavehunter (talk) 04:50, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
Rest assured, Mr. Brandenburg, for as all of Japan promises that your trades and relations with the former Ashikaga will be left alone and is continued on. Don't need to worry about Japan and don't have to be sorry, as the Sengoku parallel had been planned for a while and was going to happen regardless. :] -Kogasa 2012年11月20日 08:56:38 (JST)

Well Great One, its called a Naval Strike Missile. Look it up, cause I don't want anyone else knowing about it. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:00, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I was pissed off at my father, and then I saw that post, wasn't thinking clearly. Won't happen again. You see my ultimate plan was for Bavaria to become Kappelist later, but I can't do that if my #1 ally wants to nuke me over it(just a figure of speech) so I'm frustrated because i'm in a position where I need allies, because if i do this I will public enemy number 1. I'm trying to screw with history, historically Bavaria was so Catholic that the reformation never penetrated the region. I rely on other people to ferry my colonists, I need my own coastline, there are a lot of issues, I won't war with the Caliphate because i'm much closer geographiclly than you and thus at a greater risk of invasion. As for the Emepror, the post before showed him going delusional, now he is dead, problem solved, did it on purpose. I have a deal

1. Bavaria will eventually become Kappelist(probably right after the fall of the DME)

2. Brandenburg will remain an ally, and is given permission to send peaceful missionaries to try to convert some.

3. no more persecution i.e don't kill them, send them off but don't kill them

4. If I am forced to leave the HRE, I want to have an assurance I won't be attacked(note this is a precaution it will hopefully be unnessassary.

If I forgot anything, or you want to add please do so. Once again I apologize for my rashness, I think it is safe to say that I am normally a fairly level headed player. Next time, message me first so I won't be shocked k Sorry dudeAndr3w777 (talk) 14:59, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely free- that is, for 500,000 people- limited time offer!
The new limited time offer from Russia is out!

If you send us all your Kappelist miscreants, we'll take them, thus stabilizing your nation AND increasing our population!

But thats not all! If you call now, We'll DOUBLE the offer, taking all the Kappelists who have been shipped off to your colonies too!

What's more, this is absolutely free (minus shipping and handling), except for a small price of 500,000 people!

In addition, you can pay over time! Send your people over a period of 10 years! Also, You doin't have to pay for the first 12 months!

Call now, at Guns' Talkpage!

(Must be 18 months or older to call.)

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:33, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Brandenburgish-Dme treaty
it isn't a smart idea.


 * Well just Europe now, India is ours; however they may strike while we fight in the Maghreb though. TBH Russia is more of a threat then Europe in my opinion. The Byzantine player dare not bother after his last disastrous attempt at war against us and the HRE is in turmoil. However Venice, Naples and Castile remain threats; albeit not as much as Russian states. Let it be known I don't trust those Russian dogs one bit! Never have, never will. Opportunists is all they are, with a blatant disregard for plausibility and honour!
 * Hmmmph, its just about being able to take them on, one at a time: all at once and our enemies beat us, but we can take on the individual factions easily. I see this as a way to allow us to take on our enemies individually but it also provides the Russians with the opportunity of us relaxing our defences as we focus on the others, and then bamm! they stab us in our backs while we fight the other Europeans and African nations. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 02:47, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Royal Guns (talk) 23:25, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Did you not read the quote from the DME talkpage? Seriously? And, come on! Why do you want to slaughter them? This is a win-win! The Royal Guns (talk) 23:32, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

maybe this will make things clearer.

Hmmmph, its just about being able to take them on, one at a time: all at once and our enemies beat us, but we can take on the individual factions easily.

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:41, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

^Yeah I don't think we'll reach Brandenburg when we invade Europe, so all he has to do is hold-fire & wait for us to collapse, then it'll be really easy for Brandenburg to expand into all the little successor states rebelling away from the Caliphate. You want to be telling this to the Algerians lol. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 15:04, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

^^ Yeah, true enough. Wwll, I'll just spend the next 15 years in conquest, then the next 20 after that developing infrastructure from Poland and Muscovy (and, hopefully, Novgorod.) And then that + 135 advantage will be crushed by the Mahdi.

But not THAT badly. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:34, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

No! I understand this, I am doing the politicain thing! Its apart of my plan to force Bavaria Kappelianist. It is only temporary I assure you. Think of it like the OTL Boston Massacre, which only killed 5, yet the presses made it out alot worse than it is. Perhaps I should have let you know before hand. But trust me, it is just to play Bavaria into that direction. :)Andr3w777 (talk) 01:58, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

The reason why i am doing all this is to A) get the regent killed, B) usher in a Kappelian government. I was hoping others would follow. But that really was my plan. If it pissed you off I apologize, T'was not my intention. He needed a bad guy and it just sorta fit. I neede something sensationalist. Now, is there anything you would like me to do? We are still allies I presume? As all this was merely a interal power play. I'm open to any suggestions, you do tend to have good ones.Andr3w777 (talk) 02:04, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

States of America Reloaded
What happened??

Since the PMII thing is slowly beginning to wear off (like, say, with Initium Novum), other map games will become more popular. Maybe we should reboot it? The Royal Guns (talk) 20:20, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

very interesting... How should Bavaria play this, we will have our reformation, but how should our policies toward Brandenburg be. i.e how will Brandenburg react to one of its closest allies going "heretic"Andr3w777 (talk) 23:50, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Apocalypse:2012
Basically I wish to make a post-nuclear war world with the nuclear war occurring on 21/22 December 2012. Would you be interested in finding sites between DC and Maine on the East Coast that would be likely to have been hit by Russia if nuclear war occurred? And then you would also be in charge of organizing the states that emerge there after the war. Scandinator (talk) 00:01, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the main civilian and government centres would obviously be attacked. What I need your help with is the military installations in those areas. That is info which is much harder for me to find than for you.? Scandinator (talk) 00:38, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Okay so here is my question? Can the Empire kick out members on account of religion? Because I disticntly remembered putting a clause in about outher forms of Christianity that would be tolerated, I thought the removal thing was if I ever attacked a fellow nation, or became Islamic or something. No matter, I have seceded from the Empire and brought all my stuff with me. I am not war like and have plans to become the Switzerland of the world. At the current time, an alliance is not possible I presume due to the hatred of your Catholic nation, but perhaps it can be restored later. I don't want conflict, Russia Still backs me, as does Venice, Milan and Genoa, Naples, Calais, and England, so I still have sudstantial allies in the region. (not mad at you or anything) What is your plan after this?Andr3w777 (talk) 16:50, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

So I've noticed.... Let it be known that the Holy Roman Empire is an Illusion, you are not free. We Will FIGHT HIEL BAVARIA!!!!!Andr3w777 (talk) 16:56, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

You do know that I am doing what the mods wanted right? A Kappelist state, the Reformation was supposed to be big like OTL. Anyway, you will clearly beat me unless things change, What will be the outcome O Wise and Decedent Ruler? Will you smite me from the Earth, or force servitude? hmm do tell.....Andr3w777 (talk) 17:12, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Wait an independence referendum, I could do that? If so I may go forward with that, the turn isn't quite done. All I want is to be left alone, and am willing to persue that route, a declared secession because I thought you were going to invade anyway, I'll pay reparations if need be, if there be a proper course i would persue this first. Andr3w777 (talk) 20:35, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

very funny. I'm being serious. But I have decided to go up on your offer of retconning everything. We will try to work it out, first we will try to get recognision, if that fails we will petition for peaceful secession. We only want to live in Peace. We don't want war, we are willing to stay in the Empire and even limit the spread of Kappelianism as long as we are left alone to attend to our affairs. We have done no harm, as Christians you treat us worse than Jews, even Muslims! Please leave us be.Andr3w777 (talk) 21:41, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

This war is tough. I am entangled in alliances. I am allied to Brandenburg, (i think Bavaria too?), Venice, Castille, Russia, and England. I this upcoming inevitable war, i would have to dishonor one alliance. I am not sure what my next move is.--AP

Hmm, for how long though? Lurk wants the Reformation to hit it off and he chose Bavaria to be the starting point, I'm not sure renouncing would look too good. I don't want war, I? honestly don't get why the Empire is being so hostile. In OTL there was persecution ja but the states that accepted it were mostly let alone. Also are you sure Scandinavia would get involved. All I want is freedom, a stalemate would still more or less grant me that. I don't want to, but what options do i have as the Kappel Flagship I can't just up and abandon it publically, People need to see my resistance in order for the Reformation to take off. I've stated my desires. Just leave us be and there will be no economically devestating war that would probably collapse both the HRE and DME.Andr3w777 (talk) 22:02, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

hmm maybe, Thuringia was the first openly Kappelist state. Kappelianism has been seeping into Bavaria for almost a decade, with the Bavarian Empreor gone, who's supposed to stop the chaos? That was sort of the reason why I had events play out like they did, I wanted there to be a time where I believed that Bavaria could get away with it, with the staunchly Catholic King, Lord-Regent and the Emperor gone, it seemed like the perfect time, I failed to take into account Brandenburg and the Chancellor(whom I voted for) We don't want to leave the Empire, we just want our relgion recognised, what I could do however is declare a secular state, this would allow Cathoilcs, Kappelist, Jews and Muslims to worship freely, however I'm certain is Poplieness would have something to say about it. Let me think on it some.Andr3w777 (talk) 22:16, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

it sounds agreeable for now, who is the new Emperor? I have asked that an election take place soon. What guarantee do I have that Bavaria will be allowed to do as it pleases in 7ish years or so?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:19, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

A Brandenburgish Pope? or Papal um, well you know, THE THING? Andr3w777 (talk) 22:22, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Scraw, the phrase 'what the fuck were you doing while I was out' springs to mind. 2 days, and I miss all the fun.

so does 'I'll have to support Bavaria if you attack them because you, though a closer ally, were the aggressor'.

The Royal Guns (talk) 14:29, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

... They rebelled? That's not what I understood. What I got was that you were pissing on Bavaria for being tolerant.?

That said, the Caliphate attacks on Bavaria's side, and you've got Russia. I'm kinda hoping they do =D

The Royal Guns (talk) 22:19, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Andr wouldn't get the shit kicked out of him. HRE already proved they know how to get their asses kicked by the Caliphate, now half the damn thing's collapsing, and as far as them bastards know, Russia is with them (just for clarification, them bastards refers to the Caliphate). We are with them, if them is Bavaria without the Caliphate.?

No matter. Punish Bavaria a bit in the peace deal, would you? I saw that Andr went and whined to the DME.?

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:01, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Scraw. Seriously. Hitler parodies are funny. HISHE is hilarious. ERB is dead. It was funny while it lasted. It died. Let it Rest in Peace.? The Royal Guns (talk) 23:07, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Words cannot express what I'm trying to say here, but 'shut up, you tasteless freak' seems to describe my feelings pretty well. The Roman Empire's population was highest before it's fall, and I'm sure some prick said the same thing about the car versus the carriage. HISHE is art. ERB was art. No longer (I liked the Mr. Roger one =D)

Hey, by the way... you know anything much about exactly what Scan is doing in Apoc 2012?

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:16, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

You dsappoint. *collapses, sobbing at a world in which art is not appreciated.* *Bangs head on computer till death* *People crying and commiting suicide at cremation* *Worldwide day of mourning* *Nuclear armed countries detonate nuclear weapons in gesture of respect* *nuke in transport to detonation site accidentally explodes in NY* *Worldwide nuclear war* *Aliens watching are shocked by war on Earth and accidentally run into sun, dying in the process* *Alien Empires accuse each other of the destruction of the ship, and destroy the galaxy* *Intergalactic superbeing suicide cult suddenly gains lots of members due to the destruction of the galaxy* *Said suicide cult wins intergalactic elections due ? to hundreds of trillions of new members* *Suicide cult detonates doomsday device and releases massive amounts of entropy* *Heat Death of the universe* *Dark matter floods into universe causing Big Crunch* *New universe forms* *Solar system forms* *Dinosaurs wiped out by asteroid* *Guns kills self due to death of art in the world...*

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:59, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Where was Orientalia situated for curiosities sake? I may create a small Kingdom in the region who came to power using technology they took from your colonists and perhaps even breeding with the colonists... VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 01:31, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Okay well I've give them a small Kingdom on the southern tip of then. Dump some more people there but give them more weapons to defend themselves. Not sure if they could take out Korea though :P VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 13:14, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

.....

You're so heartless. Would it help if I noted that worldwide nuclear war would kill you too?

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:36, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, it's an althist. Give me some credit for intelligence.

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:01, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I was looking through my talk page for something, and I came across your second apology for the arguments we had. Well, I sorry as well, and I'm happy that you said so a second time. And I agree, it is nice to know we're not like that anymore. :) Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 17:26, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Medieval World
It begins today!

Cosman246 (talk) 20:35, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, I haven't really planned anything, why? I am toeing the line until i can do what i must. I merely am sympathetic toward them.Andr3w777 (talk) 00:46, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hey what is yor idea for the abbisd caliphate in medieval? Also, how would i reasonable expand my territory, am I doing good just listing as it is black? Also, since at this time, the Rus was not Christian.... could I maybe change events and put in place a muslim nation instead, cause that will totally mess with historyAndr3w777 (talk) 00:18, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

agreed. I've alway wanted to majorly screw with history like that, Imagine a modern Russia as a muslim nation, oh the irony! Also about the thing in PM, I admit it was stupid and irrational, sorry. Let call truce, I didnt mean to piss on everybody.Andr3w777 (talk) 00:25, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

I've responded to your concerns Cosman246 (talk) 04:17, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

The next turn has begun, sorry it's late Cosman246 (talk) 09:23, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

College Pick'em
Yeah absolutely! Here are the games to be picked from:

NCAA Division I National Championship (Citrus Bowl)

1 Cuba Spaniards (13-0) vs. 2 Texas Longhorns (13-0)

Sugar Bowl

16 Kahokia Thundering Herd (10-3) vs. 8 Texas A&M Aggies (11-1)

Manhattan Bowl

12 Iowa Hawkeyes (10-2) vs. 13 Pittsburgh Panthers (10-2)

Rose Bowl

4 Washington Huskies (12-1) vs. 7 Ohio State Buckeyes (11-2)

Orange Bowl

13 San Diego Tritons (10-2) vs. 6 South Carolina Gamecocks (11-1)

Silver Bowl

18 Huron Highlanders (9-3) vs. 3 Sequoyah Braves (12-1)

Peach Bowl

14 Alabama Crimson Tide (10-3) vs. 19 Virginia Cavaliers (9-4)

Texas Bowl

5 Pacifica Orcas (11-1) vs. 10 Massachusetts Minutemen (10-2)

Chicago Bowl

11 Notre Dame Fighting Irish (10-3) vs. 15 Louisiana Pelicans (10-2)

Paradise Bowl

17 Fresno State Bulldogs (13-0) vs. 9 Peninsula Raptors (11-2)

Idk how much you follow sports, but something to keep in mind... whatever the real teams have done in OTL has NO bearing on what happens in NW (some of these teams don't even exist). This is really just for fun.

KingSweden (talk) 01:55, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Medieval World
I don't really care about this game, I only want to see the Muslim dominance that occured during the Dark Ages to remain. In a way, keep Europe in the dark. I want to transfer control of my nation to you so when we actually have a border we can unite. What I want to do first is conquer the Kingdom of Leon which is the only Spanish nation left on the peninsula. The rest is up to you but keep it Russian Federation-style(PMII) that way if I want to keep playing then I will.AP (talk) 03:25, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Do you Want to join Carpe,Diem Carpe Mundrum Revied (Map Game) Warman555

Conclave
as you know We need a new emperor, for that i have enter the votation, and i wished that you voted for my character, to be the new emperor of the HRE, due to his experience with religious conflict, i would appreciate if you do so, thanks for your  attention Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:12, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

they can ignore it if they want and i think someone did the same for me, last time, but i forgot who and i'm lazy to look for something useless right now Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:39, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

METAGAMERS WILL BE SHOT

Hey, with this civil war looming we should discuss our plans. Slesvig-Holsten(Schleswig-Holstein in Danish) borders Mecklenburg(i think or at least some Kappelist state) so i think that will be an invasion point. However there is the question of the Russians. They said they would aid the Kappelists so i fear they'll turn on me if the war breaks out even though we have a trading agreement/an alliance. You can respond later, I'm logging out now.AP (talk) 03:37, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

We do not support the Kappelists. Unless all our allies go Kappelist. That said, we will join on the side of the defender IF any of our allies eg, Bavaria, is attacked (as in, you specifically go to war with them alone. If it's part of a wider civil war, you can duke it out yourselves, and we'll only join if one of our allies looks like it will suffer a massive defeat.)

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:15, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I see you're losing on the Conclave page. If it's any help, you can put the Russia (well, this half anyway, and the probably the other half) supports you. Also, point out that if you guys don't wage war, the mods will do it for you, and it will be infinitely worse and more painful than if you just declare war, because they will rip every single nation there that loses to shreds (and it might be you Catholics.) The Royal Guns (talk) 20:34, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

So, Ludwig was not declared Emperor.... Where do we go from here? Do i continue with my plan?Andr3w777 (talk) 20:01, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

PMII War
Where is the war going to start?, you have power in the Empire, you should order the Catholic non-player nations to start the war, then the war will start (the mods surely will say yes), no matter what the other players will do. Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 00:26, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Kappelist!, surrounded by catholic nations. Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 00:29, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Is Austria kappelists right?, cause if it is kappelist then Venice is the one in trouble especially if continues fightint Naples. Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 00:45, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Australasian flag
Would you mind posting the flag of Australasia? I'm thinking of using it for my own timeline Truteal (talk) 03:40, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Question: Where was Alexander Hamilton born in your TL?

Another: When is that November 5th plot happening? Me and Venice are conspiring against Naples...AP (talk) 05:02, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. Me and Venice were discussing liberation of Bosnia/Serbia in exchane for revolt from Naples, same with Granada but we'll turn them into a joint vassal.AP (talk) 05:06, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

AVAre
I have no problem with Zaïre or it's player, but he's growing his land a tad too fast and the CAR has no ATL/OTL exspationist goals OTL/ATL beyond a bit of tribal stuff with Gbaya tribal groups in the Cameroon. I plan for an African land of plenty, happy getting rich digging diamonds and minerals in the 1990's. Northern Angola and Cabinda are Kikongo, and so would like to join Zaïre and I would not mined so since Zaïre is right on this, but southern and central people like the Herera and Omivambu are not closely related and would fight an expansionist Zaire. South Africa had Namibia as a colony until 1991. Chad should fall apart and devide, with Libya trying to take the Azuose Strip and hopeing annex the Islamic north as in OTL. 90.244.86.10 20:07, December 20, 2012 (UTC)R. Beal

''' These links prove my case in Chad and Camaroon. '''-


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Chad
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Chad
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chadic_languages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Chad#Ethnic_groups
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maban_languages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngbandi_languages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sango
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngbandi_people
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakoma_people
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%27Baka
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngbaka_Ma%27bo
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Cameroon
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nigeria_Benin_Kamerun_Sprachen.png
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbaya_people
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbaya_languages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Cameroon
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nigeria_Benin_Kamerun_Sprachen.png
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngbandi_languages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sango
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngbandi_people
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakoma_people
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%27Baka
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngbaka_Ma%27bo

90.244.86.10 21:35, December 20, 2012 (UTC)R Beal.

1980.5
I have no problem with Zaïre or it's player, but he's growing a tad too much for the Africans to feal safe with. The CAR has no ATL/OTL exspationist goals OTL/ATL beyond a bit of tribal stuff with Gbaya tribal groups in the Cameroon. I'm staring up the CAR propaganda mill again in 1980.5 and hoping you will let me annex the Gbaya tribal zone after subverting it in 1981.90.244.92.253 03:04, December 25, 2012 (UTC) Proof from Wikipedia on the tribal thingy-
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbaya_people
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbaya_languages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nigeria_Benin_Kamerun_Sprachen.png

Stirlings
Still rather early - people are busy with Christmas stuff, etc. right now. We got a lot of our nominations last year afterwards.

Would like to see more, of course, right now. How about you do some? ;)

Lordganon (talk) 05:10, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

All with good reason. The mods kinda ruined some of it for us, since we were going to make a condition of our victory be the transferring of vassalage (Incan Empire to us). Granada is strategic to hold, and with the Spains divided nothing could really stand in our way.AP (talk) 05:15, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

More than a few, and by the end, I'll likely have made a nomination in each category.

I'd love it if you made more.

Lordganon (talk) 11:16, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

A2012
Are you still in? If so, could we all have a meeting on the Talkpage, to get the timeline going? The apocalypse has occurred! The Royal Guns (talk) 20:52, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki
hi, Scraw i would like to know if you would be willing to Come and Play in Map Game wiki any kind of Game you want, as i Want to Re activate the Map game wiki as an alternative way to the Althistory one, it would be also a good place to Make any sort of Map game project you might want Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, December 23, 2012 (UTC) http://mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/Map_Game_Wiki, and i know this is spam but i think that it is for a good cause, so...

Medieval World
I'm writing here just in case you didnt see on the main page. All of the North African states up to Tunisia's eastern border have been vassalized or are allied to us and will later be vassals. After all that is done, we need to figure out a way to destroy the backward Europeans and their christianness. I plan on assaulting the Kingdom of Leon to finish my conquest of Iberia (cool name idea?) which will provoke West Frankia into attacking. Call it a premonition but i have a feeling that the Byzantines will try to invade you soon too. Call me a copycat but i want to form a Caliphate-like nation so we can join up sometime soon and put Europe under our feet.AP (talk) 01:47, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. With the Byzantines "discovering" gunpowder we need to be on edge, as implausible as Sine is and all that. The plans for the conquest of North Africa are already in motion, all i need to do is expand into a small piece of unorganized Bedouin land to share a border with you at the former Tulunid Emirate. My influence is slowly seeping into Europe(I.E in the future i will inherit the muslim emirate in Sicily and I'm already in Europe, lol). All we need to do is give you European influence, so defeating the Byzantines is a goal for the end of the century. As for the marriage, i'll marry the only daughter of my Emir since there can't be any Emirettes by law lol.AP (talk) 02:05, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
Go ahead. And add Poland to the leaders too. The Royal Guns (talk) 16:49, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

A Darker place : Russian TL
ive started eastern europe. im hoping to keep the ruriks in power but i will include a civil war between the tsar and the boyers can you provide me with some help here.

Secret Diplomacy
Are you tired of Burgundy?AP (talk) 22:03, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Good. They're overextended anyway. What if they don't secede though?AP (talk) 03:14, December 27, 2012 (UTC)