Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-7257730-20130401130901

Guys, mind if you take a look to my first post :

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/A_later_new_world

Here, like I said - my goal is to see how the world will change if the age of naval discoveries were halt back by 200 years, with plausible Points of Divergence: I pinpointed out two points,

1) Battle of Aljubarrota

OTL : Aljubarrota is a Portuguese Victory, that secured their position as an independent nation under a new stable dynasty - house of Aviz, which turned out to be adventurous to their naval advances, and triggered the spirit of naval exploration

POD TL : Aljubarrota is a Spanish Victory, the conflict is then prolonged, in which in the later years, England must retreat their troops to defend their homeland in the Lords Appelant conflict and also to aid in the other phases of the Hundred Years War - Castilleans will win the war, the Portuguese had an exodus. Then, Castilleans will continue to focus on their Reconquista, taking out the Moors out of Iberia, Which focuses on Land battles, not Naval advances.

2) Battle of Varna

OTL : Ottomans triumphed because of the restless charge of Young King Wladislaus III,

POD TL : Janos Hunyadi managed to won the battle and capture the Sultan Murad, making the young Sultan Mehmet to sit and put an unfavorable truce for the Turks - in which, the Turks must retreat and never again attack Europe.

Here the points that further diverge the timeline will be:

- > The Turks then, still seeks to attack Europe, but first planned to be again the righteous Caliph of the Muslim World, to reunify them, so now they turned south to defeat the Mamluks, and the East to defeat the Persians.

-> Constantinople remained the entreport between Europe and Eastern Goods with Venetians & Genoese controlling the whole market.

But how will I later manage to make another age of naval discover later on? I think of this:

- As the Ottomans sought to be the new Caliph of the Muslim World, they will turn their attention towards the Moors in the far-flung Maghreb / Morocco, while at the same time, the Castilleans would have finished the Reconquista and unite Iberia under one new banner; Spain. Here the Spaniards also wish to then, attack the Moors on their homeland, here the superiority of numbers of the Turks will prevail - forcing the Spanish to find a new tactic.

Then, the Spanish would seek an alternative to backstab the now-mighty Ottoman Empire that stretched from Maghreb all across to Central Asia as the single state of the Moslems - to attack from the Seas, there, they'll finally encircle Africa and go to India, altogether with their French allies (During the 1383-1385 Portuguese conflict *remember Aljubarrota*, the French sided with the Castilleans, and that alliance still continues for years).

But then, the English, also the home of the exodus Portuguese still hoping to return to their homeland, sought to compete with the Spanish, they did the Columbus Idea (Going "straight to India", while in the route founded America).

So here, we don't only see a halt of age of naval discovery, but also a switch of discovery - The Spanish encircled Africa, while the Portuguese found America.

The question here, would the halt of age of naval discovery also means the halt to the Renaissance that is already going on in Italy? What do you think will that mean to them and to all other Europe?

How should I consider the effects of this major event to write a plausible page on the Renaissance in italy. 