US Civil War (Map Game)

This is a map game and the point of divergence is a Confederate victory at Gettysburg. The game will begin on March 28, 2011. If there are not enough players, it will be moved up to April 12th, the anniversary of the firing on Fort Sumter. The South is supposed to win its war of independance, but after that it its all fair game. ANY PERSON ERASING ANOTHER PERSONS WORK WILL BE BANNED FROM THIS GAME!!! The turns are in half years and you can go once per turn.

You must stay with the facts but a little myth mixed in is alright as well

The rules will be the exact same as the Axis vs Allies.

All diplomatic agreements will take place on the US Civil War Map Game Diplomacy Page.

Moderators
There will be 5 moderators, and they must have been in other map games.


 * Baconton


 * Collie Kaltenbrunner

Nations:
You may add a nation if it does not appear on the list of countries the Confederate States of America: Rebelsoldier 15:12, March 21, 2011 (UTC)Rebelsoldier

United States of America: CrimsonAssassin 15:37, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Britian: Matt France:Baconton 10:28, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Prussia/ German city states: Rcox1995 23:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Spain: BlackSkyEmpire 23:11, March 22, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

Mexico:169.204.229.74 14:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brazil:Collie Kaltenbrunner 22:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Colombia: Fed (talk) 14:11, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Russia:Whitesight 23:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

China:Ocelot9011 23:48, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Japan: Bobalugee1940 21:20, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Austria-Hungary: Elyski729 21:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Chile:

Argentina: Confederatesoldier 23:09, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Peru:Collie Kaltenbrunner 22:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ecuador:

Venezuela:

Bolivia:

Paraguay: Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:17, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Guatemala:

Haiti:

Italy:God Bless the United States of America 19:38, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thailand: Batmanary 01:11, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Honduras:

Costa Rica:

San Salvador:

Nicaragua:

Korea: PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 19:57, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire:

Portugal:

Ethiopia: --VonGlusenburg 18:15, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

THE GAME

1863.6
Confederacy: Confederate troops at Gettysburg defeat the Union Army of the Potomac after Pickets Charge succeeds and CS calvary surround the Union forces, wanting recognition by a European power, the ANV marches torwrds Philidelphia due to the corps defending Washington DC.

Spain: Spanish authorities begin enlisting more men into the Navy and Army, in order to help bolster there forces at both home and at there colonies such as the Phillipines, Puerto Rico, and Cuba. In scientific terms, Spanish mechanics and scientist alike begin testing new steam devices and armor for ships in which they end up in creating an armored frigate powered by a steam engine, although production is slow due to lack of parts.

Siam fortifies its territories, (which are still huge at this point.). They offer the British assistance in trade in British Burma, in exchange for arms. Having Siam as an ally would prevent France from getting a hold in Asia. Siam modernizes its army and prepares to invade Viet Nam with its newly acquired weapons, but also asks for a formal alliance with Britain.

The British agree to supply surplus arms and equipment, as well as promising that they won't expand beyond their current borders in SE Asia barring war with another European power. The navy is significantly improved, and several regiments redeploy from Great Britain to New Brunswick, putting pressure on the US. The first shipment of arms to Burma (composed of roughly 4,000 old Model 1755 muskets and ~30 light field pieces) is scheduled to arrive in January of 1864.



France: The French prepare for war with the U.S.A.

Why would France help the CSA? Both sides requested help from European countries. However, France would probably respond to the US forces, not the CSA forces.

'''Britain and France had a deal, where if the CSA captured Philadelphia, they would officially help them. (The CSA)'''

Yes, but Philidelphia wasn't captured yet.

French Forces enter Mexico city, French forces spread out to defeat the remaining Mexican forces. Maximilian the 1st is put in control of the new Mexican monarcht. France asks for an allaince with Austria-Hungary and the U.K.. France accepts the allanice with Joseobn. (The French prepare for war with the U.S.A. in late 1863.) DIPLOMATIC SECRET!

USA: American troops fight off CSA forces at Philidelphia, holding the line. They secure the Potomac and take some land surrounding it. This will prevent the CSA from taking Philidelphia or the Potomac again. They also request an alliance with France, England, Spain, Italy, and Japan.

Paraguay: Recently elected president of Paraguay, Francisco Solano López, is traveling the Paraguayan countryside when he sees a hill which he believes will be the key to his enlightenment on how to rule his country. He asks the driver to stop and pull aside, and asks the owner of the ranch whether he could spend a day meditating under a shade tree. He falls asleep and is awoken by the sound of a cow, and is so startled, he jerks out of his sleep, and startles a mule, who kicks a bucket and hits Solano in the head, knocking him out. A small stampede runs over him, breaking his foot and causing it to become infected. He dies later in the year.

Austria-Hungary: weapons and arms are sent to the Confederacy because of horrible Austro-Hungarian relations with the U.S.A. The Austro-Hungarian rail system is near completion

Joseon: Joseon begins a period of cooperation with the western powers, bring in technology such as guns, ships, and more. They ask for an alliance with the CSA, Japan, China, UK, and France. They begin to improve their inadequet army and navy, which are both in disrepair due to corrupt officials. Britain accepts, in exchange for a 50-year lease on Jeju Island. Upon Korea agreeing to this, they will immediately receive a sum of 1.7 million pounds (roughly 82 billion dollars in todays currency), four outdated gunboats, and 7,000 muskets. Aide in the form of advisors, engineers, and such is exected to arrive within the next two years.

Russia reforms its military introducing conscription and creating a reserve. Russia creates new military schools its officers teaching new tactics modeled after other European, Russia also begins modernising its navy.

Spain: Thanks to close production ties with the German states, Spain is able to establish a constant amount of material for goods, infrastructure, and most importantly the production of its newly created Steam powered Cruiser. Spainish officals also begin looking torwards the Civil War as a profit expander and it begins to sell products to both sides from Cuba.

1864
France:The French consolidate thier hold on Mexico. France delares war on the U.S.A. Contingents of the French Foreign Legion land in New Orleans and take steamboats up to assult Chicago. French Troops begin joing in the with Confederate armies. It is demanded that the U.S.A. leave the Confederates alone or worse will yet come!

'''But the CSA didn't capture Philidelphia yet! The CSA guy said the troops were making their way to Philidelphia.'''

Joseon: Joseon agrees to Britain's proposal, but offers 15 more years for 10,000 rifles and 5 ships, along with military advisors, trainers, etc.

CSA: The ANV captures Erie and stripps it of value. 3 ironclads are there and are then manned by Confederate sailors who sail them out of the St Lawrence and then south to break the Union blockade. The CSA asks Britian, Prussia, and Spain for an alliance. After a few weeks ofd resting in Erie, the ANV marches north east wards and afetr a 2 month siege, (with the help of the 3 ironclads) captures New York City, causing many of its residents to flee north to Boston and New England. The NYC harbor is also holding 7 warships, 4 ironclads( 2 monitors), and 5 gunboats, giving the CSA 16 new ships for its navy. This "Rebel" sqaudrin as it is nicknamed by Robert E Lee, soon sets up a protective blockade of New York harbor, blocking any US attack on the ANV. The CSA tells France and Britian that in return for recognition and declaration of war on the USA, it will abolish slavery by 1885. The Confederate Army of South Texas (50,000 men) waits for orders from Richmond, and hopefully, the Spanis, German, and British declaration of war on the Union.

'''3 Ironclads and the ANV can't take down a huge city full of ships and troops. This is completely implausible. Also, do not delete my posts again. I didnt delete your thing. You cant control the border states, that will be the moderators jobs. Kentucky is pro south, or at the least, neutral, so Kentucky does not declare its allegance t the Union. Maryland is also pro south, West Vrginia is yours to play with, but the other border stats beside Deleware, are under mine or the Moderators control. I DID DELTE KENTUCKY PLEDGING ALLEGANCE TO THE USA, BUT THST IS ALL. The Border States have not left the Union. Therefore, they are mine.'''

USA: Kentucky and Maryland pledge their alleigance to the US. The US consolidate their defenses around Philidelphia and DC. By now, an attack on Philidelphia or DC would be highly impractical. Cannons bombard the forces attacking Chicago. The USA asks for an alliance from Joseon, Russia, Britain, Japan, and China.

'''Joseon accepts, but just reminding you, you have to give the CSA independence. That's the rule. Joseon is the CSA's ally, who's side are you on?!'''

Russia accepts

Russia: Russia continues to modernise its military by modernising their weapons. Russia also begins subsidizing and giving grants the Russian American Company in return the Russian American Company agrees to establish new settlements for new colonists from Russia. Russia begins a resettlement program encouraging people to settle in Russian Alaska Great

Britain: British troops continue to redeploy along the US-DoC border from New Brunswick to Columbia, prepping for war with America. England's already massive navy is improved and expanded, and commerce raiding begins against American shipping. Aid continues to be sent to Joseon and Siam, while several obsolete warships and ~40 field pieces are donated to the Confederate war effort.

'''Britain declared their neutrality, along with France, in the American Civil War. They said out loud, "We're sitting this one out." In fact, even before the war, the British prime minister declared that Britain would mantain neutrality. There was nothing OTL saying anything about Philidelphia. In fact, what you guys had said is quite the opposite of OTL. I believe you are incorrect. The British and French governments provided massive amounts of arms to the Confederate government, much as the French did to the Americans in the Revolutionary War. Which prime minister was it? Both Aberdeen and Derby were anti-American. Actually, neither of them served during the war. Henry John Temple was the Prime Minister during the American Civil War. He served from 1859-1865. Convinient huh? He was the guy who said Britain will mantain neutrality, though that was threatened in the Trent Affair, which was resolved in 1862. The resolution of the Trent affair dealt a serious blow to Confederate diplomatic efforts. First, it deflected the recognition momentum developed during the summer and fall of 1861. It created a feeling in Great Britain that the United States was prepared to defend itself when necessary, but recognized its responsibility to comply with international law. Moreover, it produced a feeling in Great Britain and France that peace could be preserved as long as the Europeans maintained strict neutrality in regard to the American belligerents. Also, the two were economically interdependent on each other. Britain needed grain from America and knew that war meant no grain from America. As for France, they also wanted to remain neutral in the war.'''

France in the American Civil War

Britain in the American Civil War

Siam: Siamese troops invade Viet Nam and with their newly acquired weapons, easily start to gain success in the region. Attacks on Saigon and Hanoi start, and the two cities are captured in the name of the king. Siam offers Britain military access, to the country.

Japan: The Japanese Shogun responds to the Hamaguri Rebellion by brutaly crushing the rebellion but loosens the isolationist policies. Japanese troops takes control of the Ryukyu Islands. The Japenese Navy begins modernizations into modern ironclads.

Just want to remind whoever's playing as Japan, that the Meiji Restoration has not happened yet, therefore, the Shogun makes the decisions, not the Emperor. Gracias for telling me that. Austria-

Hungary: Alliance with France accepted. Austria-Hungary begins research in breech loaded rifles.

Paraguay: After a short period of chaos due to the death of Francisco Solano López, Cirilo Antonio Rivarola manages to take power, and is unanimously elected as president, despite being the only candidate. He loosens some of the economic policies that he called "ultra-isolationist." Rivarola requests economic aid and investment from both the Union and Confederacy, saying it will decide which side to join depending o technological and economic assistance.

Spain: The Spanish goverment warns Great Britain that war with the US is interferring with a war that had little to do with them, they also show results of a recent poll made by members of the Spanish kings advisors show that the need for Confederate cotton in Britain went from 70-80% to 10-20%.

The CSA calls for a meeting in Bermuda with its Allies Britian and Austria-Hungary. '''THIS IS TOP SECRET, SO NO USA FINDONG OUT AND CAPTRING THE CSA AND ITS ALIES LEADERS! '''

The CSA offers Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Colombia, the French puppet state of Mexico and Chile for an aliance.

1864.6
The United States takes parts of Virginia and Tennessee. Other parts of Virginia are bombarded and ransacked. They offer France, Mexico, Italy, and Brazil for an alliance. Meanwhile, relations with some Native American tribes increase. Russia: Seeing Britans deployment of troops in Columbia angers frightens and angers Alexander II. Alexander redeploys his newly trained troops to to Alaska in case Britain attempts to attack Russian Alaska. Alexander promises vast lands to emancipated serfs who move to Russian Alaska. The emacipated serfs sees this as a great opportunity and the Russian population will have tripled in Alaska by 1865.6. Russia continues to modernise its navy. Paraguay: Paraguay works on its economy, improving port facilities on the Paraguay River. President Rivarola makes more anti-protectionist measures, but refuses to lift most protectionism from nearby Brazil and Argentina. Siam capures most of Viet Nam, and formally annexes it. The Siamese King invites the Vietnamese Emperor to his Palace, and tells him that he is welcome to stay anywhere in Siam, and none of his privileges will be taken away, and that he is also free to leave if he wishes so. The Vietnamese Emperor decides to stay in the newly-Siamese Viet Nam. Siam sends an envoy to London to officially start trade. They also ask to buy Tenasserim from Britain in exchange for a lot of money, and open trade ports in Siam, as well as full military access. Siam also sends an offer of alliance to Japan. Joseon continues to modernize and reform, and send Russia, Paraguay, and Siam alliances. Meanwhile, the first shipments of the guns start to arrive, and Korean engineers begin to manufacture their own ones. France: Lands an army in Norfolk and the Eastern Shore.

'''Look, France would not help the CSA.They never supplied weapons to the CSA. I don't know where you guys heard that, but it never happened and if it is ATL, it is implausible.'''

Armys come through California.

'''How would your army come to California? The Panama Canal hasn't been built yet, and an invasion of the US is completely implausible. And please right more like the others, not in this form.'''

Mass Levys are raised in French Mexico to terate California

Brazil starts to work in its economy.

Spain: The Spanish navy continues to grow day by day with each ship being revised in order to meet the new demans needed to overcome all sea faring threats. Spanish troops are positioned in Cuba and they warn Britain that war with the United States means that spains millitary would take actions against the Confederate States. In Asia, Spain finally allows the local population to practice there religon of there wishes, although many who turn to Chrisitianity are payed for there change of religon.

China: China goes under a democratic revoution and is renamed the Republic of China and raise stability through out China. China also captures Japan and offers an alliance to Korea.
 * Ridiculous, but maybe it would work if it took place over at least 10-15 years or so. 


 * Alliance accepted, but I agree with this person. It would take at least 15-20 years to capture Japan, and that is if you actually win. Japan is a very strong nation right now, enough to defeat China, which had just been through a revolution.


 * You realize in this exact half-year, you  just finished the most destructive war in Chinese history, and it was crushed. A democratic revolution would not occur directly after for innumerable reasons. China is so big, a democratic revolution doesn't just occur in one year, nor in any country. 

Austria-Hungary: 50,000 soldiers are placed on the Serbian border after a dispute. Alliance offer sent to Prussia. More weapons and ammunition sent to the Confederacy

1865
Peru: declares war against Ecuador.

United States: Union forces capture Richmond and the surrounding area. Also, California's military is amped up.

'YOU CANT JUST KEEP ON CAPTURING CS TERRITORY AND CITIES, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALY BE REALISTIC, IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST A 4 MONTH SIEGE TO TAKE RICMOND AND AT LEAST HALF A MONT TO PREPARE FOR IT AS WELL AS MARCING TO rICMOND WHICH WOULD BE HEAILY DEFENDED BY CONFEDERATE TROOPS, MINES, AND DEFENSE MECHANISMS. ''It sure would take a four month siege, you are correct. Each turn takes six months. So calm down. '''

The CSA offers an armistice to the USA. Kentucky, Maryland, and the Arizona territory join the Confederacy due to US forces imposing martial law in these territories/states,, and all join as the states of Kentucky, Maryland, and Arizona, Washington is surrounded and the Maryland miltia lays siege to the city as the ANV marches south and at the Battle of Montgomery County, deals a serious blow to the Army of the Potomac, killing 24,894 Union troops and wounding 11,256, with Washingtons defences nearby, the Army of the Potomac, with 67,000 men, scarcley manages to enter Washington DC and prepare for the long siege. The US federal government escapes, and its location is unknown but to the USA itself. After a month, the Army of the Potomac escapes across the Potomac and begins to march torwards Richmond, not knowing the Confederate government escapes to Montgomery, which rebecomes the CS capital. Jefferson Davis remains in Richmond along with the rest of the Executive branch. The Congress escapes however This appened beofre the USA took Richmond, so Richmond is in Union hands as is the Exefcutive branch of the CSA, but the Congress of the CSA is begginng to make up for it by giving the Presidensy to Confederate Sentaor William E. Simms '''.  ''Washington remains under siege.

Look, Maryland and Kentucky pledged alliegance to the US .

The CSA offers the USA peace, and tarriff free trade with the Union as well as a defensive pact between the pact if the Union accepts, as well as abolishing slavery by 1880, or earlier, and secretly, a miltary pact to split Mexico, and that the CSA itself will pay France for its loss. TOP SECRET. 

Siam: engineers create a somewhat more advanced version of the basic muskets that were given to them by Britain. Siam also works to create a cultural union out of all the lands it currently holds, and creates a port in Saigon.

Japan: The Shogun brutally crushes another rebellion causing even larger protest with-in the military itself. As of now it is unknown what this will lead to

Paraguay: Paraguay comes to Uruguay's aid after it was invaded by Brazil, initiating an alliance''. ''Paraguay upgrades its military with new muskets and uniforms.

Brazil: asks for a non-aggression pact with Paraguay. 


 * Paraguay agrees to the alliance in return for a lease on Brazilian territory south of the Igauzú River, although Brazil would be allowed to keep most of the coastal area. Paraguay would also offer a large sum of money and free trade in Paraguay's two ports.


 * Brazil accepts.

CSA: The CS presidency is turned over to Confederate Senator William E. Simms, who pledges that once the war is over, the Presidency will be returned to its rightful owner. The CSA sends 2 million dollars to Paraguay in economic aid as well as 20,000 tons of cotton, corn, and wheat.

Joseon: Joseon receives the entire shipment of British materials, and begins to train their army/navy with British officers. Meanwhile, learning English becomes mandetory to become an officer, which creates much dissent omong the army.

France:Funnels troopes into the C.S.A. for use against the U.S.. The Chicago offensive begins!

Spain: Unwilling to let foreign powers intervene in America, Spain sends millitary advisors and supplys to troops in the United States and warn that war with the Confederate States would be imminent unless France and Britain back off of a war that has nothing to do with them. Spanish magazines oth in and out of the country begin to show both images and articles telling its readers that both Britain and Frances intervention in the Civil War is only a pursuit for more power. Spanish ironclads are created much faster after new innovations to docks and shipbuilding property, not to mention ammuniton production begins to reach on of its highest moments in Spain. Spain also declares that its almost unavoidible war with the C.S. would not involve France and Britain unless that was there aim.

Austria-Hungary: Troops storm over the Serbian border and the Serbian capital, Belgrade, is suurounded in a month. A peace agreement is offered to,and accepted by, the Serbians. The agreement st ates that all Serbian territory above the danube will be ceded to Austria-Hungary.

'''Serbia doesn't exist at this point. The Ottoman Empire has its lands. Plus the land you conquered was already part of Austria during this time up till its dissolution anyways. '''

'''Sorry forgot about that, I fixed it though. '''

1865.6

 * Brazil:amps up its military.


 * France-Armies make their way to Chicago annhilating many towns on the way.


 * France was neutral in the war. In fact, supporting the CSA is even implausible. 


 * WE GET IT, THIS IS THE 11TH TIME YOUVE SID THIS, THIS IS SUPPOESD TO BE FUN, NOT REWRITING AN ENTIRE HSITROY BOOK BASED EXACTLY ON FACTS!!! 


 * But still you have to be plausible. 


 * Siam: Siam now doubles their offer, in order to get Malaya, and Tenasserim, from Britain, but also offering it full, unrestricted access to Siamese seas, and also creates a British consulate in Bangkok. Siam makes the GBP legal tender, as well as its own currency, due to the number of British traders going through Siam, and they continue amping up their military, as the military shipments from Britain continue. The new muskets made in Siam are quickly produced for the army. The Indochinese Cultural Union Board is founded in Phuket, which is responsible for uniting the people in Siam, and also making sure all cultures have their say in the government.


 * The US continues to fortify its holdings and takes more of Virginia. Parts of North Carolina also are conquered. Artillery is placed along the Mississippi and Atlantic, preventing enemy ships from doing any damages.


 * Peru:starts to amp up its army, while taking parts of Eastern Ecuador.


 * Russia: Alexander II begins drawing up a plan for a parliament to give more freedom to his people. Russia also goes under an economic reform creating railways throughout Russia and its possesions while creating a huge amount of jobs to people to build the railroads. Russia's has troops stationed on the Alaskan-Candian border and will invade if Britain attacks the USA.


 * The CSA, with an army of 300,000 Confederate, Frenc, and Brtis "vollunteers," equipped with Gatling guns and heavy artillery, retakes Ricmond and the southern bank of the Potomac. It soon crosses the river, and protected by French warships, lays siege to Washington DC, and with constant shelling by sea and land, 44% of the cities people will be killed by the time of the cities surrender, which houses the US federal government. 200,000 CS, French troops, and Austrian mercaneries also equipped with heavy artillery, and gatling guns, is transported by sea to Delaware and in the largest amphibious assault yet known (90,000 men,) succesfully takes the state capital, Dover, and force te state to leave the Union and join the CSA, who then gives it to France as a gift.


 * France will not help you, England will not help you, and you can't take back an entire state, destroy Washington, take ANOTHER state all in one turn. Plus you can't make riots spread in my country. You need to look at other map games and see how things are done, because this is getting rediculous. Do not start another turn early 

'''Hey, who removed the categories? '''


 * Spain: Spain offers a alliance with Russia in order to help ensure that France and Britain know there place in the Civil War: To remain neutral. Meanwhile trade with the U.S. and C.S. continues, joyful that foriegn intervention would not intervene in the war allowing, allowing them to continue using the war as a way to expand economically.


 * Japan: The Shogun of Japan begins modernizing troops using a variant of the Prussian Needle-gun


 * Colombia: Colombia emerges as an international power after a few years of civil war and insecurity when the Liberal side wins an advantage over the conservative when it wins against a few Conservative rebels in Tunja, and disperse Tunja's population. The capital is moved first to Rionegro, Antioquia, but later was moved to Medellín when the Colombian government decided to create an artificial capital in a small town, instead of a city in the too large and disorganized Rionegro, even though Medellín is also relatively large already. It starts to improve it's army and invades what is left of Ecuador, taking Quito by the end of the year and asking Peru to sell them the eastern part of Ecuador in exchange for a large sum of money and trade rights in Ecuatorian territory.


 * Paraguay sets up ports at Laguna and Puerto Alegre. Paraguay sends some of its ships down the Paraná and Paraguay Rivers in a procession to reach the ports. In addition, new roads are opened up to allow transportation of goods to these ports.

1866

 * Brazil:sets up a port in Paranaguá.meanwhile, amp up its navy and army.


 * France:French and C.S.A. troops finally take Chicago!


 * France would never help the CSA 


 * CSA: Washington DC falls to the heavily resupplied Army of North Virginia, as does the federal government of the Union, the only problem is that US President Lincoln escaped to the north. The new Army of the Atlantic, whic leads the famously successfull attack on Delaware, marches west and takes Annapolis, and froces the state of Maryland to join the Confederacy, surrounding the former Union capital with the Confederacy. The CSA offers thhe Union an armistice, seeing as te US congess is being heald prisoner of the Confederacy.


 * You can't take DC, Deleware, and Virginia in one turn. Implausible. 


 * USA: US troops reinforce their holdings on major cities. Chicago is retaken. More parts of North Carolina are taken. The US offers peace to the CSA, as long as they pay for the war and any federal property in their lands. A military base is set up in the trade depot of Creedmoor.


 * The CSA accepts the US armistice offer, negotiations will take place in diplomacy page


 * Russia: Russia accepts Spain's offer. Russia continues to build railroads throughout their empire the Tzar continues to reform his government by begining to create a parliment to appease the anarchists in his country. This appeases many Russians and domestic disputes lower dramatically, Russia continues to train their military and modernise their navy. Plans are made to see if a railroad can be built from russia to Alaska.
 * Austria-Hungary: Navy is built up in aspirations of creating a colonial power. Money is given to the CSA to help pay off war debt.
 * Siam starts to connect their cities, by use of rails and officially sends an alliance offer to the CSA. Siam invades Burma (The northern part of the country is not British at this time so it is not an attack on Britain!!!!! So no one say I attacked the Brits, they are still allies.) Siamese troops conquer the south of the independent nation, and plan to move to the north by the end of two years, or so. They again remind Britain about their offer, and continue to work on infastructure in general.




 * By the way, I asked Britain for Tenasserim and Malaya almost three or four turns ago. Please respond!!! *:( Sorry I was at another MUN conference
 * Britain gracefully declines Siam's offer, citing their need for continued control over the Straits of Malacca. Meanwhile, more supplies and weapons are sent to the CSA, as well as roughly 200 "observers" to assist in the training and instruction of Confederate militiamen. Troop buildup in Canada continues, and funds are covertly sent to several of the more radical sects of the LDS churches in Illinois and Missouri. The navy is, as always, expanded and improved.
 * Tenasserim is not Straits of Malacca.
 * Indeed, but Malaya is on the Straits. Giving another nation control over that area would severely compromise Britain's ability to access their Pacific colonies.
 * Well, you could give me ONLY Tenasserim. Plus, the offer was, full unrestricted access through Siam. No qualms whatsoever. In essence Siam is almost your land.
 * Joseon offers an alliance to Siam, and begins to help the CSA. They, however, tell them that they MUST abolish slavery by 1880.
 * Japan: Accepts the Siamese invitation for an alliance. Many are confused by the Shogun's apparent 180 degree turn in isolationist policies but none truly question as the Emporer backs him and they view him as a god.
 * The Emperor is the Shogun's puppet at this time. Don't worry about him :) The Shogun is the dictator of Japan, no one questions him.
 * Prussia, seeing that it was quickly becoming the dominate power of the German states over the decaying Austria, begins absorbing the smaller city states between the two halves of Prussia.

1866.6

 * Brazil amps up its military and navy.
 * Peru: good part of Southern Ecuador is conquered.
 * The Treaty of London
 * Treaty of London

The terms of peace between the USA and CSA are as follows:
 * 1) The CSA will be recognized by the United States of America
 * 2) The USA will withdraw from Virginia, North Carolina, and all other Confederate Territories or States *# A referendum will take place in the border states of Kentucky, Missouri, and West Virgina, Maryland will reamin in the Union as well as Washington DC
 * 3) The Arizona Territories will be cede to thee CSA.
 * 4) The CSA will pay for all territories lost to its indepndance and all federal territories an possession Fort Sumter will become a US military base and the USA will have permission to dock warships in New Orleans and Charleston Harbor as well as Fort Creedmoor.
 * 5) Peace must last for at least twenty years. Either party breaking this contract will result in war from England, France, Russia, plus the defending American Nation There shall be no tarriffs between the USA and CSA for 20 years Slavery will be abolished in the CSA by 1880.
 * 6) The border between the USA and CSA will remain demilitarized for 3 years

Rebelsoldier 11:28, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I am fine with everything except #4. You can, however, have the Arizona territory. (I have some ideas for the indian stuff). I also want to keep Fort Creedmoor (I have ties to it OTL). CrimsonAssassin 12:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * i agree Rebelsoldier 15:41, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawl date: July 4th, 1867. Can you withdraw in December of 1866, i need to rebuild Richmond, I will exchange the US Congress for the CS executive branch Rebelsoldier 12:52, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to, but that's really fast for total withdrawl. July 4th of next year just seems more reasonable. ok CrimsonAssassin 12:57, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can we trade back our governments then?

Russia: Russia begins to build a railway to Alaska this will allow Russia easier access to to Alaska. It is estimated that this railway bridge will be completed by 1868.6. Gold is found in Alaksa this causes a goldrush many thousands of Russians move to Alaska in hope of finding gold. Russia continues to go under economic and military reform. Russia expands its navy. China:China strengthen the Econemy and starts a transition to a democratic government in 1870. China also ask a alliance to Siam. Paraguay: Paraguay upgrades its economy, and improves its port facilities. Paraguay asks alliances to Peru, Siam, and Prussia.

1867
CSA: The Confederate Revolution officialy ends with the signing of the Treaty of London, which grants the CSA independance, the Arizona Territory, and if the border states of Kentucky and Missouri choose to, Kentucky and Missouri. The referendum id to take place in 2 months. The referendum takes place in Kentucky and Missouri. Kentucky overwelmingly votes to join the CSA, while Missouri votes in the same fashion to reamin American as does West Virginia. The CSA send its first diplomat to the USA. Kentucky becomes the 12th Confederate State while Arizona is turned into the 13th state of Arizona. The CSA offers the USA a mutual defense treaty, which is ratified by the CSA' congress almost unanimously aproves, it is soon signed by CS President, William E Simms, and sent to the US congress for aproval. The CSA asks France if it will sell the 3 Yucatan states, Sonora, Chihuahua, Tamualipas, Coahuila, Nueva Leon, Baja California, amd Baja California Sure for 19 million dollars as well as 150,000 tons of cotton corn, and wheat.

British troops begin the process of redeploying from Canada back into other territories as the War Between the States winds down (I'm not entirely sure what we should call the CSA's war of independence, but the WBtS seems good enough). A naval detatchment reinforces Britain's forces in Oceania, and colonization throughout Africa continues. Troops begin to skirmish against Boer forces around the OFS.

Joseon again asks for an alliance to Russia, as well as with the CSA and USA. Joseon also begins a period of modernization and cooperation with the west, much to the dismay of some of their senior officials.

What?the 1866.6 turn started today and there is already a 1867 turn?

It goes by UTC.

yes, but when it starts?when i added the 1866.6 part, it was, like, 8:00 in UTC.it is 20:00 in UTC now.i thought that the turns started at 0:01 of the following day.

Russia: Russia will accept an alliance with Joseon if Joseon agrees to allow Russian naval vessels have unrestricted access to all their ports and in return Russia will defend Joseon in case of a war. Russia continues to expand economically and militarily. The Russian population in Alaska has reached 30,000 Russia begins to build miltary forts and docks throughout Alaska. Russia navy is contunied to be modernised.

USA: The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments pass. Due to very little of the north being damaged and the hefty sum given to the USA by the CSA, reconstruction doesn't take as long. Abraham Lincoln gives a speech this year at Washington. He is not shot.

Peru: accepts the alliance with Paraguay.

I had already conquered Quito.

Sorry, i didn't read your posts.Wait, this means that my whole war against Ecuador is invalidated?i mean, if yes, can i remove my posts about declaring war on Ecuador (when it was already taken)? France:A pro-Yucatec rebellion breaks out in the Yucatan for indepedndece. French troops respond quickly.

After a year, in which Siamese troops continued to invade Burma, the Burmese suddenly offered a surrender. Siam annexed the country, and continues integrating its population. It offers unrestricted military access to Britain for British Burma, and again, reminds them, that this is FULL military access. No questions asked. It would be similar to Siam being a protectorate of Britain.

Paraguay: Paraguay suggests unification with Bolivia, after Bolivia's failed attempt to unify with Peru. This time, the Paraguayans believe they will not face intervention due to ties to the powerful countries of Peru and Brazil. In addition, they begin building a road to connect the Atlantic and Pacific oceans from Arica to Puerto Alegre. Austria-Hungary: Liberals take to the street to demand free elections, this is accepted yet only Austrians or Hungarians in the upper class have this right. Brazil offers a proposal to partition Bolivia between them and Peru in a near future.(NOTE:this is secret, so only Peru, Bolivia and Paraguay should know about this)


 * Wait does this involve Paraguay? Can I at least have the southern part?


 * Well, Peru wants Eastern Bolivia, the littoral and Acre, I want parts of Western Bolivia.However, how about the whole Gran Chaco disputed in OTL Chaco War (map for reference here:) to you


 * Nah, I already own most all of that and then some. I need at least 3 km of coast, so I can eventually expand into Chile. Also preferably the coast isn't in the middle of the Atacama.


 * Divergences started.Peru also wants to expand to Chile, and said that with that condition, you would need the Peruvian littoral,because all the Bolivian littoral is in the Atacama and you don't own small parts of Gran Chaco .However, i made a reference map based in your proposals.please, understand,the quality may be bad, the map may be superimposed over OTL borders, but i tried to do my best in making the map.the orange marks in Argentina and Chile are remants from the original map (it was a map about the Atacama desert).and sorry for forgetting your Atlantic littoral.


 * Looks good. I just wanted to make sure I had at least one medium-sized town, and I got Tocopilla so I'm good. If Peru wants part of Chile that would be great. Btw in English, "coastal" is preferred over "littoral."


 * I think that we should start the war against Bolivia in 1870, or something.

The CSA asks France if it will sell the 3 Yucatan states, Sonora, Chihuahua, Tamualipas, Coahuila, Nueva Leon, Baja California, amd Baja California Sure for 19 million dollars as well as 150,000 tons of cotton corn, and wheat. The CSA offers Paraguay an alliance in return for ecomnomic aid and trade

All German states between the two halves of Prussia are "asked nicely" at gunpoint to join the Empire of Prussia. They do so wearily. Prussia now controls all of northern Germany.

1867.6

 * Brazil improve its economy.


 * The CSA asks the USA to politely make up its mind on the mutual protection pact Treaty.


 * The CSA asks France if it will sell the 3 Yucatan states, Sonora, Chihuahua, Tamualipas, Coahuila, Nueva Leon, Baja California, amd Baja California Sure for 19 million dollars as well as 150,000 tons of cotton corn, and wheat.


 * France will only sell the 2/3 of the Yucatan, Sonora, Chihauhua and Parts of Northern Mexico as well as the products for 13 millon dollars!


 * The CSA accepts, and formaly annexes Chihuahua, Sonora, and 2/3 of the Yucatan as well as parts of Norhern Mexico. Sonora becomes the 14the Confederate State while Chihuahua becomes the 15th Confederate state. The Yucatan becomes the Yucatan Territory, but riots continue in the Yucatan. Do to internal issues, the CSA, eners a period of isolation to rebuild itself and a railroad from Virginia to Sonora's Pacific coast as well as a telegraph line from Richmond to Guyamas. Plans for an independant Yucatan begin to be made.

'''You just had a war. Work on rebuilding, not annexing.'''

will do.

Russia continues building railroads throughout its empire. Russia now has the largest and most accesible railroad system in the world allowing it to move goods and people extremly quickly throughout its empire. Russia continues economic and miltary reform increasing its navy and arming it with heavier and more powerful weapons. More and more immagrants continue to move to Alaska due to the gold rush and when the Railway linking Alaska and Russia together is completed many more will join them Russia continues to build towns in Alaska some of which are becoming cities. Russia sends more troops to Alaska.

Peru continues to amp up its military, and its economy improves.

Siam: Siam continues to work on assimilating the cultures of Indochina within its Kingdom. They open up to trade with the Confederacy, but its main cotton import comes from India. Siam continues building railroads, but looking at the world's perspective on slavery makes them decide to abolish the institution by 1890. in a slower, stable way.

British troops move into BC and the Yukon in response to similar Russian troop movements. It proposes a non-agression pact between themselves and the Russians, while the navy is continually expanded and improved. In other news, Gladstone becomes Prime Minister. He immediately begins breaking up the government monopoly on alcohol and halts further attacks on the Boer states, while plotting the formation of a Radical-Liberal-Free Church power bloc in Parliament.

'''Siam asked for British Burma in exchange for unlimited military and trade access last turn. Please respond, Britain!!!'''

'''Russia will accept this non-agression pact if Britian agrees not to interfere in any way!!! In Russia's Invasion plans against the Ottoman empire.'''

'''I believe that I had made it pretty clear that Britain isn't interested in selling land for trade benefits etc. The UK has enough domestic commerce that, combined with a large merchant marine and control of many of the world's maritime trade routes, there is little need to do this. As for the non-agression pact, I have to decline (I'd like the Levant/Palestine and Hedjaz). If we can come to an agreement over this, then it would be perfectly agreeable to me.'''

'''Ill agree to those demands. I want to take all Ottoman territories up to OTL Syria whatever below that is yours.'''

I believe we have a deal:D

Paraguay tells the CSA it will offer relations and trade but it is too poor to offer any aid. Paraguay asks that the CSA set up a market for hierba mate. Paraguay continues to make relations with Bolivia, making relations in order to gain support before the partition of Bolivia. Paraguay builds more merchant ships.

1868
France:Proposes an allanice with Austria(-Hungary_).

Russia: Russia begins moving a massive amount of troops and engineers to the Ottoman border at OTL Romania via railroads. Russia continues to modernise its navy and military.

Russia Alaskan railroad will be completed with 6 months. Russian moves its Black Sea navy to reinforce its army. Russian engineers are tasked with building railroads as the Russian army advances.

The Empire of Prussia, weary after hearing that a French-Austrian alliance was possible, Prussia reaches out to Britain for a possible alliance.

CSA: the CSA accepts Paraguays offer qand sets up the market, the CSA warns against war between France-Austria against Prussia saying, war is not the answer, and we will defend the attacked if help is requested, or in other terms, back off of eachother, now. An alliance is offered to Britian, Brazil, and Paragay. If the Union does not reply soon to the alliance offer, it will be withdrawn.

Peru; continues to amp up its military.

Brazil: amps up its military and asks for alliances to Austria and Prussia. Siam: Siam works on improving infastructure, and their railroads.

Prussia: Prussia will only consider Brazil's offer if it drops Austria from the alliance. Prussia asks Bavaria if it wishs to join the Prussian Empire. Bavaria outright denies.

Brazil accepts the Prussian terms.

Paraguay: Paraguay begins constructing factories in Puerto Cirilo Antonio Rivarola (OTL Puerto Alfredo Stroessner), as well as its port at Puerto Alegre. Paraguay again proposes an alliance to Siam.

PM Gladstone declines an alliance with Prussia. However, he does ask for a non-agression pact with the CSA, Prussia, France, and Austria-Hungary. Meanwhile, work on the Suez Canal continues, and it is expected to be finished by 1870. Troop deployments in Egypt increase significantly.

Prussia agrees to these terms.

1868.6
France: Accepts the Non-Ag. Pact.

Brazil: asks for a alliance with Japan.

Peru:starts to build fortresses in their borders with Bolivia.

Siam: builds fortresses around its borders. It also continues on infastructure.

CSA: The CSA accepts Britians non agression pact and offers a mtual protection pact to Brtian as well as Brazil. The CSA continues to not interfere in other countires, but offers Britian $6,000,000 for the Bahamas and $250,000 for Bermuda which will always allow Brtish warships and merchant ships to dock at. Spain is offered $8,000,000 for Cuba and Purta Rico. The CSA begins to industrailize and bulk up its amred forces. The Emancipation Act is passed by the Confederate Congress, freeing all slavesin the Confedracy as well as paying the owners of the said slaves $3,000 for each lost slave. Slavery is officaily ended but a state of Peonage is introduced which gradualy gets the Freemen citizenship, starting with them getting an education as wellas making sure they have enough money to get along. The CSS Richmond and CSS Virginia are launched, the first Confederate steam frigate with an ironclad like shell 8 inches thick. The CSA offers Argentina an allaince.

Brazil accepts the protection pact offer from CSA.

Thank you Brazil, you will not regret it.

'''I'm sorry but Britain is going to have to decline both offers. I'd like to keep my territory intact.'''


 * Paraguay enacts a seven-year plan for rapid modernization from 1869 to 1875, involving construction of a trans-continental railroad from Tocopilla to Laguna. It also contained plans to construct thousands of factories throughout Paraguay, and create corporations under the Paraguayan government, and would eventually serve as Paraguay's top level divisions. grade school students would forego learning Spanish literature and language or advanced mathematics, and instead pursue an intensive study of economics and business. All military, social, political, and international matters would be temporarily suspended until the conclusion of the plan (with the sole exception of secret deals with other nations on the partition of Bolivia).
 * Argentina: Argentina accepts the CSA's offer of allaince, and Brazil, French Mexico, Brazil, and the CSA officaily form the American Powers


 * The Suez Canal is officially opened. Trade revenue booms, and the Royal Navy begins a period of massive expansion. Enjoying a high approval rating, Gladstone creates the Reformist Party in Parliament(basically an isolationist, laissez-faire, Old Right-esque group). Most Low Tories and many Liberals join; decimating the numbers of both Conservatives and Labour alike. Their first official act is to lower tariffs on goods in both Ireland and the colonies, as well as ending the role of the Church of Ireland as the official church of Eire. Troop levels in Egypt increase.


 * Prussia, with the non-aggression pact in place, begins to build up. German industry pops up all over the Rhineland, and the capital city of Berlin becomes a booming city. Ports ship out more and more commerce, and Prussia becomes greater than ever before.


 * Russia: Russia begins its offensive against the Ottoman Empire. troops advance into OTL Romaina. Thousands of reinforcements are sent to the front via railroads as the Russians advance engineers begin building railroads and incorporating existing railroads in former Ottoman territory, this gives Russia a significant advantage allowing it to send troops much faster than the Ottomans. The Alaskan-Russian railroad is complete this allows colonists to travel to Alaska much faster. Russia's navy is expanded.


 * Ethiopia: Tekle Giyorgis II is crowned nəgusä nägäst (emperor) of Ethiopia, he begins to try and modernize Ethiopia and build a modern army to protect itself from foreign interference.

1869

 * Ethiopia: Civil war properly starts between Tekle Giyorgis II & Yohannes IV, however due to British support and modern weapons Yohannes IV looks set to win the war (This is British support in OTL rather than the British in this map game declaring an alliance with Yohannes IV).


 * Brazil:starts to build industries in cities of Salvador, São Paulo and Recife.


 * Peru:with Brazilian help, starts to build industries in the city of Tacna.


 * The CSA offers France and Germany an alliance in an attempt to unite 2 of Europes most powerful nations on one side.


 * Prussia, after serious consideration, accepts the CSA's offer. Meanwhile, the German Army becomes stronger, growing to a great number. Prussia begins to send units near the border of the southern German states.


 * Siam continues to integrate its people, and continues on its infastructure.


 * Paraguay continues on its seven-year plan.


 * France: France asks Prussia to make the Alsace-Lorraine Free Zone rather than put it in one nation!


 * Russia: Russia advance on Ottoman territories goes well as the Ottomans army is outdated and Christians Throughout Ottoman controlled Europe rise up against their Ottoman overlords. By the end of July most of OTL Romania is under Russian control. Russia black sea fleet engages the Ottoman fleet and decimates their outdated fleet. Russia sends raiding parties to disrupt the supply chain to Ottoman Europes armies. Russia continues to expand economically and modernise.

'''Somehow, the categories since 1865 disappeared.i did my best to re-organize the page, and corrected some spelling mistakes. '''Collie Kaltenbrunner 21:53, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Thank you for that. '''


 * Prussia agrees to the Free Zone. Alsace-Lorraine becomes a prosperous free economic zone between the French and the Prussians. Also, Prussia asks France for a formal declaration of alliance.

1869.6
'''Will somebody make an updated map sometime?  In the talk page, there is saying that baconton is the official mapmaker, and we should expect a map by 1870.from then on, will be a map every 5/10 turns.'''
 * Brazil:preparations for war begin.units are sent to the Bolivian border.
 * Peru:units are sent to the Bolivian border.
 * France: It is discovered that Guatemalans are sumgling arms! War is declared on Guatamlaa!
 * The United States and Cuban relations increase. At the end of the year, it is announced that Cuba will be annexed.
 * Cuba is Spanish right now, so you cannot annex thhe country without war or its purchase, which Spain has already declined to do.
 * The CSA: The CSA completes its telegrap line from Guyamas (Sonora,) on the Pacific, to Wasington DC, Richmond, Charleston, Miami, Savvana, and New Orleans in the Gulf and and on the Atlantic. The railway is nearly 2/3 completed. The Pacifiic fleet in Guyamas can now recieve orders from Richmond instantly as well as news of whats going on in the east. The Foriegn Citizenship bill is passed by Congress which gives all peoples in purchased or conquered territories equal rights and citizenship with citizens born or naturalized in the Confederacy, almost all anti Confederate feelings vanish almost instantly. Prussia, Argentina, Mexico, France (considering the allince signed in the War for Southern Independance), Brazil, and the CSA all allies, form the Entente. The CSA offers Britian membership in the Entente.
 * Paraguay works on its seven-year plan. At the rate it is travelling, it may exceed expectations.
 * Russia continues its offensive on Ottoman terrtories making significant progress into Bulgaria as most of the population joins the Russians in the offensive seeing this as a chance to have an Orthodox faith as the main religion in the country again. Russia Black sea Fleet bombards Constantinople for 6 hours before withdrawing causing significant damage and causing a huge a large amount of people to question the strength of the Ottoman empire. Russia continues to build railroads in its terrtories and Alexander decrees that all occupied Russian terrtories are to be treated the same as Russian citizens. Russia continues to expand its navy and upgrade its army. The gold rush in Alaska coupled with the Russian-Alaskan railroad sees a huge increase in living in Russian Alaska thousands more Russians travel there searching for a better life.
 * Prussia, content with the Entente, begins to significantly build up its forces on the borders of Bavaria. Prussia also tacks on that the Alsace-Lorraine Free Zone would also become de-militarized, and that Prussians and the French could move freely between the two nations. Prussia begins to make full relations with the other members of the Entente, sending diplomats to Argentina and Mexico.
 * The Entente nations offers the Ottoman Empire membership in the Entente as well as Ethiopia.
 * Ethiopia: Yohannes IV begins to really push back Tekle Giyorgis II's forces thanks to international support of Yohannes IV by the British and Entente which Yohannes IV pledges alliange too.

Here is te Entente and its members as of 1869.6.

1. The CSA

2. France

3. Prussia

4. Mexico

5. Brazil

6. Argentina

7. Republic of the Yucatan
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