User talk:Saturn120

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map game
in ur map game china is its own way of communist so therfore its neutarl  The Royal Tank (talk) 21:16, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yes plus it has a major relationship with the United States and has disliked the Soviet Union probably the beginning of time =) User:Saturn120

Hello. Well it is not my job to do so, I feel like I should tell you this;Axis vs Allies R-word is kinda dead. And also Mexico is a US vassal, so you could not play as it. Sorry. there are other map games, such as The Steam Age and Principia Moderni 3. IF Axis vs Allies does restart, yo will need a mods approval to play as Mexico. What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 23:41, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Saturn. It's SwankyJ (talk) 00:29, February 25, 2014 (UTC) I would like to sign up to become a Mod

yes i can, but I'd like to play as USA SwankyJ (talk) 00:38, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

yea give me a blank map template to work with, and ill start working on it SwankyJ (talk) 01:59, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

please do not go over my head, I will have the map up to date in an hour. SwankyJ (talk) 23:21, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Response.
Not at the moment, but as more and more players are eliminated from PM3 or people become bored of it I'm sure we will see on or two pop up. Mankind Reborn WAS set after world war 2, but that never started. The most modern game we have thats about to start is The steam age, starting in 1850. The road to war is set before WW1 I belive but that is only open to people with 1000+ edits.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 23:57, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

AvA
The map game Axis vs Allies: Revolutions has been completed for over a year. Might I suggest looking at Principia Moderni III as an alternative if you wish to partake in a map game. -- Hailstormer (talk) 00:59, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Invasion of Brazil
There is a good chance that we can or can't take Brazil. I have no interest in taking any land down there either than maybe an island or something for a naval/air base. I didn't send a ton of troops for a reason. I am using Argentina mostly as an airbase for all my bombers and such so we can bomb the Brazilians in the jungle and cities. The tanks are purely for the Argentinians because they don't have a large number. The artillery won't come in major use, and the troops deployed might only be good for a year or two. Also, please sign any further messages with a ~ ~ ~ ~ mark (without spaces) so I can tell who you are. Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 00:29, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Falklands
The armistice's terms aren't even proposed yet, let alone it signed. We can still invade them, but we need to do it quick. Blocky858 (talk) 01:01, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

give me practise post ot see how you do it and ill decide fair enough?
whati s stated above. Nkbeeching (talk) 22:56, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

you may join as a minor power. Nkbeeching (talk) 10:42, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

no as in a smaller country, possible australians, south africa, something like that, or bulgaria. your an unknown so consider this a trial run. Nkbeeching (talk) 13:46, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Medieval Age :AOK
The game has started, please post as soon as you can and i hope you enjoy the game and wish you good luck.

Double Cleff (talk) 19:44, March 12, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 19:44, March 12, 2014 (UTC) Can I be a mod?

Double Cleff (talk) 20:12, March 12, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 20:12, March 12, 2014 (UTC) Can my country in the game (The CSA) have Cuba, Hait and the caribbean?

Double Cleff (talk) 20:26, March 12, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 20:26, March 12, 2014 (UTC) I thought we had our own army and navy? And I am planing on the CS to bring back slavery and to become alies with Nazi Germany

Double Cleff (talk) 20:39, March 12, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 20:39, March 12, 2014 (UTC) Can I atleast just have Hati then?

Double Cleff (talk) 02:51, March 13, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 02:51, March 13, 2014 (UTC) Can the CSA in the game have the southwest too?

Double Cleff (talk) 16:10, March 13, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 16:10, March 13, 2014 (UTC) Hey um why was my country taken out? I want it back or else I quit

Double Cleff (talk) 17:21, March 13, 2014 (UTC)Double CleffDouble Cleff (talk) 17:21, March 13, 2014 (UTC)  Fine I will be the USA

I N F R A S T R U C T U R E

EoGuy (talk) 17:11, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Implausibility
Has been removed from WP. You are no longer allied with Finland, USSR or China due to ASBness. USSR no longer allied with Finland due to ASBness, and both Aussie and NZ wars are retconned. Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog) (Your Impartial Mod)

Blue Dream Help
So, I saw your message, and even though you can't do a Navbox, thanks for wanting to help! Mostly, i'm still trying to think out some ideas, but it would be appreciated if you could fix some grammer errors if you go through the China article. As for now, I don't know what else, but what got you interested to help me? Tigershadow5 (talk) 00:35, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Poland (PMIII)
Hey. Poland just came under my control a few turns ago. I forgot to put my name up there - so I am really sorry but I would have to request you to pick another nation. Sorry again. Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:33, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Again, sorry about that Saturn. Thank you and I hope you keep playing ^.^  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:23, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hitler The Artist
I might not be as much help as you would hope - but I can help you out and help format all your pages as well as act as a soundboard for your ideas if you wish! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:16, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I believe the word you were looking for was useful lol. But sure, and tell me any ideas you wish to discuss. I might even create a few pages if you want me to! :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:20, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I think it would be interesting to see a timeline where the Weimer Republic survives. We could have butterflies work in such a way von Hindenburg does not gain power in Germany and thus we have a better chance of a democratic Germany. This Germany could eventually become stronger by pursuing cuts on their repayments and becoming stronger with western approval. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:30, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Well there was a Communist Revolution in 1919 - which was about to turn Germany communist. They failed because their organisation lacked - they had all the numbers. So if you want - we could have Germany become Communist, but more along the lines of Lenin's communism rather than Stalin's or the Soviet Communism of the Cold War. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:35, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I'd be glad to help you on your new TL, and am honored that you asked me. Just tell me what you want on my talk, and I'd do it. Bow To Your Sensei. BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!!!

Well, the revolution was in 1919 - so I expect that within the year Germany would have become Communist or be on the way to Communism. Search up Rosa Luxembourg. :) Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:48, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I saw. Looks good, although i might do a bit of copyediting! :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:37, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII
Hi, I play as the Ashikaga in PMIII. Just to let you know, at the moment you are using the Ashikaga currency, the Gintsuka. Ozymandias2 (talk) 15:54, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

I think we should aim for that, but ATM the Shogunate is easily the dominant power. Why don't spend a few turns establishing yourself and then we can draw something up. By the way, also, you are part of the Japanese Northern Coalition, a group of about 5 Japanese States (Mogami, Uesugi, Satake, Kamakura, Takeda and Imagawa clans) under control of the Shogun. If you want to leave, drop me a diplomatic message and that'll be fine- it'll let you be more free in what you want your state to do.Ozymandias2 (talk) 16:20, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll work up a map over the next few days and you can see if you agree. It's going to be a little tricky, as I am in personal union with the Date in the North and in an alliance with the Imagawa to the South of you, but I'm sure we can work something out.Ozymandias2 (talk) 16:35, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Can you put all negotiations on this page please Sandbox, I've put up a map that should illustrate the problem.Ozymandias2 (talk) 17:02, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re:New Union
Why yes, I'm the creator of New Union and I'm always welcoming of new ideas onto my timelines. But forgive me for asking, but do you have any interest in the timeline itself or do you simply wish to just work on articles in general? You say your new and wish to start working on articles, yet it appears you've already started your own timeline (which I may add looks like an interesting idea). So if you just want to work on more articles than you are more than welcome, but I highly recommend you work on topics you personally enjoy doing (as opposed to just random articles). You can always work on your own material and can always ask for help from the community.

But if you really want to work on the New Union timeline, than (as before) I'm always open to new help. Though the real question is what do you think you can add to the timeline? What topics would you like to contribute? Do forgive me for this, but I've never had someone ask me to pick articles for them to edit. Rather its someone who suggests an idea and we work from there. -- 21:02, April 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Funny you should consider the EU, as I too have been working out in my head how it will function ATL (given all the issues with Ukraine as of lately). I wouldn't say it to be a third superpower, rather an emerging one (much like OTL). The main differences I see are that NATO and the EU aren't synonymous like OTL, and that a bigger divide between pro-American and pro-Soviet sentiment within the EU would make the organization more independent (as opposed to OTL where it is more American-backed).


 * As for adding articles of the EU nations, I would request not to add anything unless it holds a specific difference from OTL. In the case of Italy, I don't see much difference from OTL, but I'm not fully invested in Italian history. I'm leaving open the possibilities that different governments gained power in France, Germany, and the UK from OTL, but I can't speak for the others as of now. But I'm open to any specific ideas you may have. -- 21:31, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Look Out, Sir! Revised (Map_Game)
I added some more OTL rebellious emirates and anti-colonial lots. The map was up-graded and enlarged. It is OTL 1914 on the eave of war, but if it needs to be changed due to ATL events in the scenario, fell free to do so.


 * 1) http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Look_Out,_Sir!_Revised_(Map_Game)#Middle_East
 * 2) http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Look_Out,_Sir!_Revised_(Map_Game)#Far_East
 * 3) http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Look_Out,_Sir!_Revised_(Map_Game)#North_African


 * :-). Whipsnade (talk) 16:22, April 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * I looked after the Ottomans for you. They are allied to Bulgaria and Ha'il now.Ottoman_truth..png
 * It was successful in defeating Hejaz and Nejed, but the mods have ruled this to be illigal.Whipsnade (talk) 23:53, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * I will give in, it's getting confused and ASB.


 * OK, I did not notice the Treaty of Aachen and Belgium stayed as conqured, not as treaty. I was modding all on my own in a major war. Algos every ware! The Treaty of Le Havre came inforce in 1917. I did not know if the war or treaty was ASB or not. The treaty borders would be enforced on 1917.5's map if legal. The Treaty of Djakarta was denied, not crossed out as ASB, which it was; but they missed it as a whole until I pointed it out. The Benelux nations as a whole would not join France, but each other- see OTL Benelux, but Belgium's south would go French. Brazil in the game beat the Arunch rebels, which OTL Colombia crushed quickly and I crushed the Arabs in Hajaz and Nejed, all not ruled as illegal but denied as even happening in the 1st place. The whole Spain thing was a ASB who gets what land grab by Britain and France. Siam was over mighty, but atleast fair about it and stated Cause Beli, et all.  France has bias mod events to help it. The mods never turned up for about 4 turns and left me with more than just mapmaking. They moaned at Brazil for ASB (too liberal)  and went ASB (daft caus beli/meta against Spain). I found the truth about oil and malaria in Brazil, no one else did. The mods are fudeing and I'm quitting.


 * I'm quitting, it's just too ASB and bias. I hand controle of Argentina to you. It is a British/Venezuela/USA alie. I made an Ottoman-Argentine trade deal. An Ottoman-Argentine alliance would be a good twist in a increasingly oddball and ASB game.!Whipsnade (talk) 00:46, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Fez

 * The Ottomans could go after the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic  as well as the Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus since both were in an anti-Russian colonial rebellion.Whipsnade (talk) 19:16, April 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fes.jpg

I think I've got a good British Indian and Persian mod event plan for spicing the game up with in the mid 1930's, so keep it under your fez, if you know what I mean! ;-) I'll tell Blocky858 at the time.Whipsnade (talk) 19:30, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Spain
Spain's has now complained about the ASB.

Ottoman Nation Page
I updated it, you can continue now. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Ottoman_Empire_(Look_Out_Sir,_Revised_Map_Game)

Ottomans
Terrain Desert: +1

Ability To Wage Full Scale War (ATWFSW)

(Ottoman Empire, Azerbaijan Rebels) +4.5 (rebellions aren't full militaries)

Control of the Seas: +3

Fresh Military: If the army attacking or being attacked is new, +2

Better/Stronger Weaponry: +2

Heavier Armor -2

Tactical Advantages

Attacker’s advantage: +1

General: General Paul Von Hindenburg +1

Attacker: 1+ Defender: 1+

High Ground: -2

Blitz: +4

Heavy Fortifications: Available if the defender is positioned in a historical stronghold or has constructed them for the past year. +5 Defender, -5 Attacker

Scouts: +2

Dug In: -4

Support from the Populace

Non-democratic Government supported by People +2

War unsupported by People -6

Fate +12

Army Size +1.6

Results: 15.6

Russia
Terrain

Desert: -1

Ability To Wage Full Scale War (ATWFSW)

(Russia) +3

Control of the Seas: N/A

Fresh Military: +2

Better/Stronger Weaponry: +2

Heavier Armor -2

Tactical Advantages

Attacker: 1+ Defender: 1+

High Ground: +2

Blitz: -4

Dug In: +4

Support from the Populace

Non-democratic Government unsupported by the people -2

Heavy Fortifications: Available if the defender is positioned in a historical stronghold or has constructed them for the past year. +5 Defender, -5 Attacker

Fate +14

Army Size -1.6

Results 23.0

Outcome- The Ottomans are defeated after some heavy fighting. Russia takes the minor border towns of Posof, Binbaşıeminbey and Türkgözü in Ardahan province.

AM1
Game started

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Mediterranean_(Map_Game)

LOS-I returned.
Now it's not ASB I returned as Argentina, It's ok, sir.

I was on this wiki about 4 years ago on another log in and got involved in a map game witch fell apart due to ASB, then trolling, cat fighting and then lastly my computer was hacked. I got paranoid and later joined the Map-game wiki.

ASB is ok if  in say a fantasy like if zombies attacked. Cheats who go ASB to win or toll mods are....

I always have a touch of ADHD and depression since birth. Whipsnade (talk) 20:43, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

The Ottoman armed forces were rsaised to  2,998,321 by OTL 1918.Whipsnade (talk) 20:52, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Recommendations Reply
I do not think it is time for a League of Nations right now, especially considering WW1 hasn't happened yet. Also, who do you think are implausible? If you want to invite some more players, go ahead. Blocky858 (talk) 23:45, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Joining?
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Road_to_War_(Map_Game)#1890.0 Whipsnade (talk) 01:15, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

Can i Mod? Pow, Zam, ITS SUPER PUTINI (Da!) 19:31, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that.
Sorry for calling you the wrong name on chat, you both start with S and joined around the same time (yet you both somehow have more edits than me.) "Today is the day of Reckoning sir, You screwed up... '' You screwed up..." '' 01:03, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Timeline
What will the timeline be about? Blocky858 (talk) 01:29, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Treaty
There is an old treaty you need to sign regarding border changes. It's theoretically been already put in place, but for reference: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Treaty_of_Riga_(Look_Out,_Sir!_Revised_Map_Game)

Blocky858 (talk) 06:44, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Oman - Yemen Relations (PMIII)
Hehe sorry that got off to a bad start, I would be very interested in the possibility of our nations having some sort of strong bond, and if we work together and got some friends in high places, we could be a force to be reckoned with. What d'you think eh? - FP(problem?) 10:18, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Giving up on NGW
No, I just want to redo the timelines format and would prefer to start from scratch.

Re: Oregon Country
I'd be happy to have you help. If you have any ideas, post them on the talk page, or if you want to write an article, just ask me. It's kinda my personal TL, but I would not care if you helped out. Bfoxius (talk)

RE: Humor
lol Blocky858 (talk) 23:54, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Question
I think people will just think you're spamming the wikia to get a bunch of map games and shit started. Blocky858 (talk) 13:10, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

RoBFE
This is to tell you that the map game Return of Battle for Earth has begun. If you have already posted, please disregard this message. 23:27, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Ancient Mediterranean
Hey. AM 1 started. Please post your turn. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Mediterranean_(Map_Game) SwankyJ (talk) 20:23, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re:GWS Redo?
I'm currently considering it, but right now I'm going around and cleaning up categories and the like. I wrote more about this on the timeline's talk page. -- 15:47, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Nomination
I have nothing to object. :)

FirstStooge (talk) 05:57, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Saturn, for the deepest valley of my heart, I honestly felt that my timeline is too early to be nominated for getting featured actually. Not because my timeline is bad or something. But, LG's recent comment that my timeline deserve an ASB tag is making me fully conscious that getting featured is also means the timeline must getting completed immediately or soon. Myomi Republic will always in progress anytime, because I love writing and everytime I write, I got a new idea.

There is a lukewarm response from other users regarding the nomination. However, I am truly happy that someone really noticing my timeline which I working endlessly and tirelessly. I am not asking you to remove the nomination. I will leaving it until the due date where the other users will deciding its fate.

P.S. You can be a co-contributor for my timeline if you want. :)

FirstStooge (talk) 12:27, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I will ask several questions that I hope we can discussed about that: FirstStooge (talk) 14:17, May 16, 2014 (UTC) FirstStooge (talk) 01:46, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * In my timeline, Spain was ruled by the Hohenzollern Dynasty and allied with Germany militarily and economically. So, what is the effect of Spain's entry as the Central Powers in World War I?
 * Is that possible for Ukraine to get its independence during the Polish-Soviet War? And what is the consequence of an independent Ukraine for the Soviet Union?
 * Stalin died earlier in 1920. Then, what is the effect with the Soviet Union, the industrialization, the collectivization and World War II?
 * And the last: Should Hitler remained alive and the history of Germany going as same as with OTL?
 * I agree with you. Then, will Spain's entry effecting the U.S. entry to the war especially with T.R. at the helm?
 * Okay, accepted.
 * In the case of Bukharin, yes. But, with Kamenev on the board, or even Trotsky, I think the industrialization will happen similarly with the OTL and perhaps earlier).
 * You are right. I think I will fixing up Nazi Germany's article on my timeline.

Long Island and Boston war
No. I have plans for another nation in Hartford and Western Massachusests that Boston would compete with. A war between Long Island and Hartofrd would be more likly. If anything Boston and Long Island would allign against Hartford due to your holding in Conneticut and Boston's desire for dominance. If A war was to break out, it would have been in the earlier years. Two wrongs may not make a right, '' but it makes me feel a lot better in the end! '' 20:21, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I just noticed that. Now I break it!

23:03, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I Can't Post For You
I got training over the summer from tuseday to thursday 8:30-230. I also may be getting a job if the interview goes well. This job will be on fridays 9-5 and saturdays 11-3. I am sorry about this but ask sky since he is free more than I am. - Scarlet.

Beginner Map Gaming Guide
I love your guide! I'm planning to make one detailing how and why to make your own map game. Would you be interested in the two to be linked?

Rcchang (talk) 11:50, June 4, 2014 (UTC) (I forgot to sign so now I'm signing)