User talk:Callumthered



Avaro
The game is starting now. Thanks for playing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

hullo!Barretonia 10:15, January 25, 2012 (UTC)from Barretonia 25th Jan 2012

don't really feel like writing my own world, but i do enjoy reading them and playing the map gameIyandelian 09:59, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Republic of Australia
Feel free to edit or create it. I'll tweek it a little once you're done. It became independent after CV WW1 when the British Empire was forced to grant independence to it's larger dominions of the time. It was invaded and occupied by the Japanese during CV WW2 which took Australia out of the war. Not territory was taken by the Japanese and Australia remains an independent democracy today.204.197.236.6 14:13, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

South America
Hi Callumthered! I noticed that you put in this list of nations as the capital of the United Provinces of the Rio de Plata to Rio de la Plata, but that city not exist and maybe you mean to Buenos Aires. Regards! --Katholico 06:00, February 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, and i think that is normal given that each one generally know more about his own country or region. My speciality is South America, and also i noticed that in your TL Bolivia is named Martinia, right? And the capital is Sucre, but maybe in this case i think that you might change the name. Regards! --Katholico 14:50, February 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sucre was named in honour of Antonio Jose de Sucre, but as he is from Venezuela is probably that also died during the wars against spanish and french. In that case, and as San Martín is who liberate to the country, the city would be named as one of the argentinian generals: Manuel Belgrano, who in OTL fought in Bolivia. Regards! --Katholico 02:34, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I am always looking to take a creative shortcut using art that is consistent with my ALT and meets a high quality standard. Your flag is spectacular. I will try and use more from you :>) --CassAnaya

Oh, thanks. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 17:25, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Invitation
Hello! I am Ianian58, and I have recently started a new map game called "Napoleonic Europe", and I've been hoping you could join- here is the link Europe (Map Game)#The World Before the Game Started Napoleonic Europe Ianian58 20:29, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

NE
Whould you be okay with giving the Kingdom of Saxony complete independence from the Confederation? Bobalugee1940 00:35, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Saxon King
How would my say be brought into use in the running of the affairs of the Confederation? Practically speaking Bobalugee1940 02:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

quite Bobalugee1940 02:29, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Do you think that the new name of Poland should be the United Kingdom of Poland and Saxony or the Polish-Saxon Kingdom? Bobalugee1940 23:26, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey check out Napoleonic Europes talk page for something you might find useful!

People in NAV
Hey. I'm was wondering if your going to make an Alternate Destiny page for your timeline? Enclavehunter 06:09, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil in NAV
Hi Callum! Sure, i'm glad to help.

Well, yes, the name make sense perfectly, but i think that United Kingdom of Brazil and Portugese Africa should be just the official name. For common use, the country can be called just as Brazil or Empire of Brazil, but for the page name, i suggested only named Brazil. I hope this serve you, Regards! --Katholico 08:22, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome :) By the why, i can ask what is the situation Chile in your TL? The country did not appears in the list of nations, but in the world map yes, and seems to be similar to OTL but seems a little big in the north part. Regards! --Katholico 00:57, May 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem. :) I will continue revising your TL to see if you need help with something else. Regards! --Katholico 03:57, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hi again Callum! I hope not to bother you, but I see, and i noticed that the chilean territory is very small and that besides Rio de la Plata seem have access to the Pacific trought OTL south Chile. I ask this because you before tell that Chile is biggest power in the South-East Pacific your TL. But given the territories that show the map, this seem me unlikely because if Rio de la Plata have this access, then this country would the biggest power in the aerea. :/ (Also, Martinia seems have sea access trought OTL Tarapaca) Regards! --Katholico 02:17, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Greater Europe
Hey. Would you like to play in Greater Europe (Map Game) ? Doctor261 ''' (Talk to Doctor261) 06:24, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Environment in GWS
No problem at all. This is an open timeline, and we welcome your contributions. I skimmed through the page, and so far so good. The only thing I would say caution about is the "furry lizards." I am not too sure as to when this species became extinct, but it should be noted that the timeline's POD is around the last Ice Age. So unless this species was able to survive and evolve at all, needs to be looked at. Other than this, great job so far. ^_^ --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:38, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Their seeds are actually "nuts." Such foods, harvested from the wild, would be very needed for the voyage. Between what they bring over, what drifts over, and what arrives with animals, they'd get there. Really, when the first natives arrive they will find the trees already there. Lordganon (talk) 08:39, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

TE vs CP
Hey it's Britain. We have to discuss important matters. Sorry to have to do this but because of your entering of that alliance we have to brake off our alliance and withdraw all aid from your country naval or military. We thought you promised us a "staunch and strong ally in the Balkans" and now you leave and join another alliance after we made you stronger? i must ask why?AP 00:49, June 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * We dont want you to sever ties or anything we just feel backstabbed by your decision to join another alliance system. Join the Entente instead and be backed up by stronger allies who actually help you.AP 02:14, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

The CSA would like to offer Brazil a secret allaince so that when Brazil declares indepedance, and it should as Brazil is the only remnant of Portugal that is not fully controlled by Spain. Spain is you conqueror, the Confederacy will help you overthrow them. I WILL NOT BE SILENCED!!! DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 21:29, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

I accept your alliance offer. -Dean DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 17:46, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

HELP!!!!!!
Aztlan begs for your help as the Americans are going to invade Aztlan in order to take over the country and destroy Aztlan into nothing more than dozens of colonies. We beg for your help.

Sincerely,

Aztlan (-Dean DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 23:59, July 2, 2012 (UTC))

Avaro
Looks like in Avaro you are only of the only sane nations left. Bharat will help you to keep the peace. In 1988, an organization called PITO will form. Its full form is Pacific and Indian Treaty Organization. I would like you, along with New Grenada to join with Bharat. It will enable a much better defensive organization. We will also be able to neutralize the rampant Chipanese (mix of China and Japan) and Egyptians and bring stablity to the world.

You do not have to be an agressive nation, just a "sane" nation to be in the organization and be willing to respect soverignty. Please accept when the time comes! :D Imperium Guy 16:46, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well done on your 1000 edits, the 1000th happening to be on by talkpage!!

Well, Bharat is the Indian name for India, and yea it was on my mind, lol. I see what you mean. That's what put me off. I only returned when I saw you and nk were still in there.

Moving on to PITO. Its a late version of NATO but better than nothing. I will start it up this turn, so keep looking out for it... :D Imperium Guy 22:10, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Here is the flag of the organization which I have made before.

What do you think? I know it is a copy of the NATO flag, but I am pretty proud of this flag.

I have sent the offer now! :D Imperium Guy 13:21, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Columbus: First Contact?
Would you care to join. I respect you, and we need more players. Feel free to add in another European Nation if you want to. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:19, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

OK then. Just tell them me was fine with it. Also, mind if I post once in a while?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 17:23, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Seven Years War
THE MAP GAME HAS BEGUN! --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 00:43, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Novus Mundi
Novus Mundi.Please join my new Map game Novus Mundi .Also do you want to join New Beginning

Lobositz Lamentable Loss
Sorry for the delay, but the game has now begun! RandomWriterGuy (talk) 05:44, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

VRR
'''We need to figure out this country thing. In less than 30 years you,me,and Spain will all have the same ruler. Now i am all for the United Kingdom of Great Britain,Ireland,Spain,and Germany but we still have things to look over. If we join up as one country, we definitely will become top nation even after all our colonies gain independence. Right now the best nations are the UK,France,and Germany. Our union as the new UK will shake the world to its very core. Now being the same nation isnt as bad as you might think, Germany and Spain will be devolved and control their affairs but we will be a nation. Let me know.AP (talk) 03:41, August 16, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''Yeah that's what i meant by devolution. And you can be called a kingdom i mean your too big to be a duchy or even a grand duchy. Different legislature, separate military, everything else: One nation. Also i quickly did these two pictures, i know they're lame but its not the final product. I'm hoping someone on the Nexus will help me out on this.'''





'''Wow, such great ideas we got ! I think this should be the final flag. I took yours and just filled in the blue parts with red. Now it is the Union Jack(representing Great Britain and Ireland),the German tricolor on the left, and the Spanish tricolor on the right. This is great.'''



Revised version:



hey callum idk if you will be interested by this, but if you want, you could Review the map game ideas i proposed in the next map game idea page and also to join A Great World (Map Game) Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Saxony in PMII
Hi.

Could you look at the Holy Roman Empire page for PMII? There is something important there that, as a member of the HRE, you should look at carefully.

Cheers,

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 02:57, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I am refering to that treaty.

How the military works is that there will be a Imperial Army, and the states (such as Saxony) can maintain Militias for their individual defence and internal policing. The emperor, while being the head of the armed forces, only controls the imperial army.

Bascially, how annexation will work is like this: you can take it over, but the imperial government will still recognize Anhalt as a state, and it will maintain any representatives in the government. The official map and history will still regard it as still existing.

I know that that is weird, but I don't want the Conclave of kings to become too small, and the other states would never accept if they were completly taken over.

Let me know if you are still unsure.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:33, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Your Map Game Question
Nein Ihre Grammatik ist nicht allzu schlecht. Ich bin ein wenig auf, was Sie fragen verwirrt. Willst du mich, um das Spiel zu spielen? wenn ja, ich nehme Preußen.

(I can speak English fairly well, so if you would prefer we could converse this way. It doesn't much matter.) Andr3w777 (talk) 18:37, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Wunderbar, wo im Vaterland wirst du sein? Ich werde sehen, zu spielen, aber es wird am Montag sein, ich bin in einer Konferenz, bis dann. :)Andr3w777 (talk) 22:40, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Ach, bin ich von Hamburg im NordenAndr3w777 (talk) 23:00, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

According to the nation page, it says Prussia is already taken?Andr3w777 (talk) 03:15, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Constitution of the HRE PMII
I would like you, as a member of the Holy Roman Empire in PMII to formally establish the system of our state by signing this constitution so we can organize the new system as soon as possible, and see if suits to everyone. --Galaguerra1 (talk) 05:30, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

hey would you like to play this new map game of mine http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Arabian_Failure_(Map_Game)#Asia Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:56, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vote
Please vote for the Emperor here. Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 00:18, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man, now the Emperor of HRE will be the candidate of Bavaria, I do not know exactly how many years will reign but for the election after this you have a plan? then I would try my. Forging alliances from now. Quiari (talk) 19:53, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man, now we have a strong alliance, we can healp each other in any way you need. Quiari (talk) 23:45, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

I will aid you in siezing bohemia, if you let Bavaria have the part that borders Bavaria. We have a considerable miltary size and share a large border through our vassal Thuringia, we will also allow Saxony to join the Imperial Merchants Guild.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:01, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

That is acceptable, Though I would like access to Prague for trade purposes. I will absorb it into Bavaria proper.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:26, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

I like the second option, when do you want to get this started?Andr3w777 (talk) 19:33, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Its in the unification treaty, I remember it because I helped draft the treaty. And yes eventually, I'm trying to make a plausable senario to end Catholicism in Bavaria.Andr3w777 (talk) 16:47, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

uhm. I remember drafting part of it yet I can't seem to find the original?? Oh well then I guess you'll have to vassalize another nation, dangAndr3w777 (talk) 17:28, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Under the Constitution you are allowed to say no. I ask you to please. My nation has done nothing to deserve this treatment. We were NOT the ones that killed HUNDREDS over religion, we didnt not hang our dissidents outside the city gate like Brandenburg. We are peaceful, always have been. We don't want war please back off. I need help to fight this injustice, but if that is not to be then please stand downAndr3w777 (talk) 18:02, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Secret Request
Hey Callumthered. I need the assistance of Waldeck against the Spanish and French menance, as well as seeing if Waldeck could get the support of Prussia against Spanish and French, considering you are great friends with Prussia. In exchange for the possible support, Prussia and Waldeck can divide Spain's Spanish colonies in Africa. (Everything in this discussion is secret). Enclavehunter (talk) 17:28, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Conclave
i'm here to introduce me, and to plead for your aid in my postulation to the Title of Emperor of the HRE,asking you to aid me on stablishing John of Burgundy as the next emperor since, this emperor has managed to keep relative peace in his domains in burgundy as a catholic, despite having the continues threat of the Keppelists and the Possibility of confliction with the orthodox catholics from earlier in the game, hence, with this experience maybe hi could be capable of keeping relative peace in the Empire aswell as keeping together the empire, i would appreciate your aid on this Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:34, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man remember your word, i need your help in the election, you can change your vote, do it for me, we can save the empire, we can help each other in this time, vote for Savoy candidate! Quiari (talk) 03:40, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki
hi, Callum i would like to know if you would be willing to Come and Play in Map Game wiki any kind of Game you want, as i Want to Re activate the Map game wiki as an alternative way to the Althistory one, it would be also a good place to Make any sort of Map game project you might want Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, December 23, 2012 (UTC) http://mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/Map_Game_Wiki

Sure. This turn or future turns as well?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 05:49, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:27, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mind if the WL aid Brandenburg in the latest war? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:55, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

OK then. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:24, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Napoleonic Europe Revied!
Hey, I made the thire Napoleonic Europe today!Napoleonic Europe Revised! (Map Game)The old baby (talk) 15:43, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Radioactive Tide Reloaded!
You're invited to the post-apocalyptic map game, Radioactive Tide Reloaded! It has begun. Bfoxius (talk)

Stirlings
Hey, we're up for a Stirling award! If you vote for the new UK flag, we'd be tied with the leader!AP (talk) 04:45, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
I got you Altmark and some other state next to it for your rule.

Also, we are in a period of super happiness in the HRE, but the Caliphate implausibly conquered Russia. Remember that plan they had? It's happening now and they're invading everyone and everything. We are a border nation now and should be ready to blow the socks off their horses at any given time.

Hope you enjoy being a boss in Germany!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 18:51, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Callum, Aragon somehow left the dynastic union with Germany. Can you help me? Please?

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  21:39, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Military, if you could. :)

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  22:34, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Cal! In PMII, I see you have got a whole load of nations which are not part of your main nation. Now, I'm assuming that Anhalt and Magdeburg have been your vassals for over 20 years. If so, you can now incoporate them into your main country (Saxony). Same with Hesse, if its a vassal for over 20 years, then incorporate the country. This will give you the chance to expand population base and get a chance to vassalise more areas.

Plus, I see you are beginning to establish a navy. Would you be interested in trading with Orissa through the NOC? It would be great for both nations. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:23, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Congress of Vienna
I suggest we left all playable nations to be colored. Grey are to be claimed (I extended that Morocco can be played because it's on the Medditerranean). Regards, Laptop Zombie 04:21, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I will update the map on the main page. Regards, Laptop Zombie 02:53, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we need both. Regards, Laptop Zombie 05:41, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
You should really solidifiy the Wettin Lands into one state. Then go Rambo on some petty city-states next to us. Also, I have something secret to discuss with you in terms of war.

23:34, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Night of the Living Alternate History
I invite you to participate in the Night of the Living Alternate History. There are many nations still available, and we should be starting soon. Mscoree (talk) 17:21, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re:No Napoleon Map
Hey, Callumthered, I'm glad you like my map. I actually used, and then I made the ocean white, the lands grey, and the borders the same grey. It was a lot of work, however, so if you'd like you can use my No Napoleon map as a basemap. The green borders are adjustable, so you don't have to start it from scratch. Enjoy! :) ChrisL123 (talk) 17:17, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Chile in NAV
Hi Callum! Well, I think that this territory just will call "Protectorado de Polinesia" (Protectorate of Polynesia) or just "Polinesia Chilena". I don't know if exist a different name for all this islands besides Polynesia. jeje ^_^U Regards! --Katholico (talk) 17:54, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha. WARNING: I may forget every now and then.

22:23, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

India in NAV
Its a very interesting concept to say the least! Although just a few comments about population and districts.

OTL Bangaldesh has around ~140 million people. Sindh also has a few million. Now I see the states of Himachal, Punjab and Kashmir are all part of the Sikh Empire (interesting concept - I think it would have more territory to the north and west though ;) but the only state with a significant population would be Punjab there. So a net population gain. With OTL India having 1.212 Billion people, and removing the north - it should give you around 1.14/1.15 Billion. Add Bengal and it would be around 1.3/1.35 Billion. So slightly more than a billion, lol.

Now the districts. Over time, and with a more prosperous India, the districts would change. For example, Ceylon would actually be two. If you have a Tamil district form from the Madras presidency, then it would also have the north of Ceylon (as it is actually Tamil-majority, not the Singalese - who are mainly in the south). The Agency States would also be actaully 2 - 4 different districts. Hydrabad would not be that large, lol - and I would trust most of its territory to actually be incorporated into the Bombay Presidency.

I think you might want to have 1911 as a significant year too (when all of this happens). It was in this year that Edward moved the capital from Calcutta (Kolkata) to Dehli. So, although I see no problems with the capital remaining in Calcutta, by 1911 (if the people have a say), there could be much territory distribution.

Its a very interesting concept of India. If you want more of my views, just ask - lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:00, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Here is the map of what I would think the divisions would be more suited to. At first I was a bit reserved about making a map to show my opinion, but then I though "what the hell" and went all in anyway.

So, in my version, there are 12 provinces, 6 princely states and 3 "agency states". Although with this map the point I am trying to prove is going to be pretty hard. Just to show what the situation would be like in my opinion. I'll probably make a different map on the British Empire official map in 1909.

Although I wonder why the Sikh Empire would still exist. I would think it would be destroyed by the Empire anyway.

Well, inter-marrying would actually be a nessecity if they would want to solidify their claim. However, I would trust the British imperial family to pick Indian royalty of "legendary beauty". Basically, I would only trust them to marry good looking Royalty. I would not be surprised if (I wonder if you know her?) would be part of the Royal Family. In the starting years, I would trust the Brits would keep some pride but as they became more "Indian", they would probably adopt more Indian policies and cultures. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:37, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Tbh, not really. If you think about it, the British Royal Family is, well, German. The house of Winsor (their original family name is German) still has legimacy in the UK. So, even with Indian blood, they would still be British origin. Just make sure you have enough members who are white so the first dominions are fine with it.

I have another map which I am making which might make more sense than the one I have here (no problem if you use this one :). True, you can see the background - but if you are fine with it, I'll try to dim out the background. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:55, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Here is my promised second map. It is based on the Brit borders of 1909, so would "technically" be more correct than my previous version. About the Sikhs. If I am completely honest, I do not believe they would last so long. I do think they would have been invaded by the British and defeated.

About the map itself. Well, Mysore and Hydrabad are already in yellow, and so are the Rajputanas and the Central Indians (but they are agency states, as opposed to the Princely states). I have also added in Kashmir, as I am unsure about them (becuase if the Sikhs don't exist, then Kashmir would also be part of India - de facto Princely state.

I would also like to ask you something. Considering that the Indians would be educated in greater numbers, would it be at all possible for you to look into the Princely States having much less autonomy in the present day? This could be a gradual change, so overtime the princly states elect their own governers (or even better, the Nazims take on the role of permanent "governers" of their domains). So Princely states like Hydrabad would be more like fully-fledged states, and this could also give the Royal Family more real control in the government.

Oh and btw, I think a governer for each presidency would be better than a "President" (not sure how well the term would go down with the Royal Family - considering the President replaces their role as Head of State). So what do you think? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 00:14, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, completely fine to read it. In actuality, the Nazims had a general of the army under their command anyway. But yeah, that sounds good.

And, IKR! I changed it into Governancies (makes a lot more sense) on my new version. The new map is on its way. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:53, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Done! Just uploaded on my previous version. I'll tell you something, that map is probably the best I have ever made. becuase never has my map looked this good. :)

I've got a few more points, btw. Seeing as to how the Brits come over to India, I would think they would keep some "white pride" (probably at the start - some element might remain in the modern day, but I would think it would dissapear over time as they married into the locals). So I would think that they would have as many children (initially) as they could so that they could have as many white members in their family as they could. What this would do is make the Royal Family in the present day look almost-white as they would have "native" blood in them, but lighter and better looking than the average Indian. Do you intend on having a significant numbers of Brits coming over to India? Because if they do, then the Average Indian person would end up looking more Latino (as in skin tone, i.e fairer) due to the mixing as well as being significantly taller (due to food as well as European genes).

Another point. With the Royal Family in India, they would go on to realise that India would be their best bet to gain power and force in the world again. Therefore I would think they would go on to establish schools for the majority, making them learn how to write and read hindi and english, and influence their thought making process to believe they are citizens of the "Indian Empire". I would also think the Royal Family would gain a bit of intelligence and stop trying to convert people to christianity. If they would want to convert people to a faith, I would say they would try Hinduism instead (might create a new form of the religion, tell me if you would like to look into this aspect).

This would mean that India would be only slightly behind the Europeans and maybe ahead of the Sino-Japanese in terms of Education (and industrialisation).

It would also mean that contraception would be introduced to the nation earlier. Its a serious point, lol. Cause earlier education => earlier awareness => earlier contraception. This means your earlier number of 1 billion might be more correct than my 1.35/1.4 billion, lol.

So I would presume this would make them a superpower, or if not - then make them pretty damn to being a superpower, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:55, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

I do think they would do this quicker. Maybe a Victorian-esque era in India where the Empress is Female but marries an Indian Royal (who she falls deeply in love with). They have like 10-12 kids, and then he dies (basically Albert analog), leaving her in grief for a few years. This marriage could happen in the 1840s, and she could become the first Brit royal family person to marry an Indian Royalty person.

Then most of those Kids marry Indian Royalty, while a few marry more white Royal Family members. So your Royal Family is going to be very large, lol. Although I am proposing the inter-marrying much earlier.

If I am honest, the population of India in the 1810-1850s was big, but it wasn't great. So if around 6 million whites arrive to India, by the modern day, the majority would actually be the creoles (aorund 50-60%). The "pure" Indians would be around 20-30%, while the whites would be 15-20%. Why such high white and creole numbers?

Well, we first need to look into the fact that pre-Victoria-esque we would have large amounts of white pride. In India, the whites would have been given better treatment, and so would have probably been encouraged to have like 10-15 kids (most of whom would actually survive). The Indians had that many kids too, but most of them died due to cholera and stuff. Then most of these white children would marry whites and grow in number expodentially. However, around the 1850s, a change in attidutes would take place as an ear of schools would begin to be made and the Empress would encourage intermarrying. So here we could have the creoles happening and growing in number.

However, I would feel the creoles would be Hindu as we ave often seen an arriving peoples take up local faiths and the peoples the whites would marry would be hindu. I am not sure about the muslims. If the Royal Family feel that Muslims are a threat and side with the Hindu population, then maybe only 10% of the nation might be muslim by 2010. I would think that a feeling of secularism would probably arrive in the 1940-60s, and then I would see the defender of faiths title added to the Emperor/Emperess's titles (good idea, btw).

I would think that the truely white Royals would be protestants in the modern day, and around half of the white population (around 10%) would be hindu, with the other half protestants. So the modern day religious demographics would be 80% hindu, 10% protestant and 10% muslim. A very diverse mix, and thus a good deal of secularism would be required.

I think it does seem like a very, very large version of New Britain, lol. And thank you so much for that honour, I have never actually been nominated in the Stirlings or anything. I would not object one bit. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:38, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Well, we could have a small number coming from other parts of Europe too, but that is not bad. Although I would think the 10 kids policy would be pretty popular with the Brits in India (I am not sure if they had 10 kids in the UK or not at the time). As long as the final result is the same, its all good.

I might sound dumb, but where is Aden again? And I would think the Opium Wars would still happen. The Brits were crazy about making money off of that stuff. They might set themselves up with a temp. alliance with the French to do so too.

And sure, I'll get working on the map right away. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:38, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, stronger BEIC control over India after Napoleon invades and stuff it would definately result in a much earlier rebellion. And you point on Victoria's age is completely legit and stuff. It all sounds good, lol. Industrialisation earlier does mean India is even closer to superpower status in the modern day, lol (although that would not change anything much in the timeline, I don't think).

I do think the whites would intermarry first, but I would reckon English would take prominence in the mixing European and British population due to the crown and the BEIC. I would say it would need 6-7 kids, lol.

Aden, wait, is that the capital of Yemen? Or in Oman? Because the British were in both of those states for a while. I think I remember. Well, it really depends on how you want the British to act. If they have interests in the area, sure. But if they don't, then they will not bother. Does it affect trade or the arrival of white immigrants? Then yes, they'll go for it. If not, then not really. So if fact, its actually up to you. :)

So yeah. I have changed the map. I hope its what you wanted. So anything more to ask? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:35, April 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Cal? [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 06:55, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

I know how you feel. My school term has also started. It was as if the Easter Holidays was like the calm before the storm, lol.

Sure! If you ever need help with the Indian page in NAV, I'm here. Btw, you could have all the greenification pojects in Australia start earlier so the country has more rainfall and hold more people. But that is not really important, lol. Australia is pretty decent as it is in your TL.

If you do not mind, once I develop my TL enough, I might need your help in the Australian section. But that will still take some time. So, yeah. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:06, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union(PMII)
Hey buddy just to give you a heads up i have put an offer to your nation in my post as the Australian Aboriginies. I tell you as it is a large post and could be missed. Hailstormer (talk) 17:26, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that last turn, i was trying to think up a way where expansion could take place quickly and as a result i became implausible and a bit nutty. I have changed the turn now so that the Koor Union has not discussed or even knows about your nation, and i was hoping you could edit your current turn to reflect that. I would also like it if our emissaries could still meet in a neutral location to discuss the creation of a trade deal and potentially even an alliance so that we can secure a positive future for Australia. Hailstormer (talk) 15:49, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Luxembourg wants to be able to propose that the whole Confederation go to war with a country. The country Luxembourg currently has in mind is Orange, to say the least.

21:31, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

But of course.

22:42, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

A possible aid in my African campaigns
I plan on invading Cyrenacia in Africa, to help establish the ability to colonize the continent. Would you care to assist, any and all aid would be rewarded. I would even cut you in on any profitable trade routes in Africa as i have a deal with Arabia for allliance and trade. we live in a changing wolrd, religious hatred is starting to die in place of business and pragmatism.Andr3w777 (talk) 16:07, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Just to note I will also accept an alliance but I am already a leader for religious equality as Islam is much more peaceful in its political actions in this world thanks to Caliph Ali.

Also I am formulating an interesting plan for a new mod event for a mini-Napoloen of sorts. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:57, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

I have started the war, you may place your states in the algorithm. Actually, if you dont mind, can you see about getting someone to do it? I am not good at it and I am sure I've made plenty of mistakes. How many nations does it take to do a coalition and will to yeild us more points?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:32, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah a trade deal would be good. You on about Ethiopia or Italia though for the horn of Africa nation though?

And the mini-Napoleon plan involves the confederation of the Rhine nations uniting after one of there leaders becomes a military leader who forces the rest into an empire. He'll then take over a lot of Europe via mod event wars before his empire is destroyed and the remaining nations are divided between France, Netherlands and the 3 German powers. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 19:13, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah most nations would be taken over for a short while and then once the whole thing ends they re-gain independence. Also the Muslim bloc's relations with Ethiopia aren't very good. Why do you ask? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:14, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

If you want a coalition war against Ethiopia I'd certainly consider it, but first I ask that your nation establishes a trading pact or something with me. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 17:07, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Or rather now you may want to join my own war against Ethiopia. If you join as a full coalition partner and Ethiopia doesn't manage to increase its score then we'll topple its government and you can have all of their African West coast colonies. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:56, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

If we cannot acheive a good status as autonomous states of the German Empire, then perhaps we can form our own German Union if things dont go well, its just a backup plan in my head right now.

Can you tell me which of your nations are doing what please so I can add them to the algorithm. Which of these nations are sending aid, which are coalition leaders, etc. Just so I can add them to the algorithm easily. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 17:39, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Can I have the explicit names of these nations. I've added Saxony as a leader but that is it. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 19:03, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

If I am able to convince Viva to return Saint Thomas will you withdraw from the war? I dont wish to fight allies but with Orissa looking like it will get mauled I'm inclinced to help the defensive side. Scandinator (talk) 15:14, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Viva has returned Saint Thomas, I will negotiate the 100 year truce via Imp. Scandinator (talk) 07:05, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm on my phone and its easier to post here. Since I can't really find a way of keeping it, I guess you can have the colony near your own. Khmer Koch is located in southern Vietnam. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 05:25, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

The Korean Colony (and soon to be protectorate) of Karika accepts Saxonys offer of a trade agreement. Korea proper also wishes for a trade deal, and Korea proper also offers a defense alliance. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 21:23, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Karika (korean colony in australia) accepts Saxonys offer for a trade deal. Korea proper offers Saxony a defensive alliance. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 21:31, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

I understand and hear your desire for Bali, Is there any reason per se you need it? What i can do if it is purely a colonial effort, i can land lease like China did with Hong Kong for a period of 150 years, after which it will be returned. If you absolutely need it I will give it to you, I'm just trying to start my colonization efforts, I am years late to the game so to speak.

As for the Greater German Reich, i support it as long as Bavaria and other member nations are given almost unilateral movement. The difference arises as Germany wants a more HRE like governement, while I am leaning for a more loose European Union like government. I don't want to surrender Bavarian sovreignty, but do believe that all the Germanies need to form some Greater Reich, so we can better dominate Europe and the World hehe. I want the German Recih to be more powerful than OTL, without the um, unpleasantness, of the Second World War. (As I am a German.) Brandenburg seems to have abandoned the idea, for he hasn't posted about it in some time. Ask him, if his solution doesn't work then we can form our own.Andr3w777 (talk) 12:06, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

No, Gabon is mine. But I can compensate in another way by the African territory and your colony. You keep Khmer Koch, and I will cede my territories in the Caribbean, such as Puerto Rico and Texas, as well as technological assistance in the naval field, where we are experts. In this way the Confederacy and Netherlands will be closer and friendly. Quashi (talk) 18:32, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Could Brandenburg purchase Puerto Rico or trade it for something?

Also I'm all for a united German nation, and am willing to compromise for it.

05:38, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

can you get on chat, I have a few private questions.Andr3w777 (talk) 06:13, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Just get on the live chat later i suppose, we will just need to monitor whom is on, the question is of some importance to our two nations. And Bali will be given to you, I just forgot to mention it.Andr3w777 (talk) 09:12, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

My apolopies I will just tell you here, I fell off, a spot of gin tends to relax one. I will speak to you in German.

Entschuldigung für die Ausflucht, es ist nur ich glaube nicht, setzen uns in einem Reich mit Scraw ist eine gute Idee. Er war ein guter Verbündeter, aber er ist sehr expansive, während ich mehr interne bin, habe ich Angst, dass er das Reich zu verwenden, um uns subgigate bin. Nachdem er sein Bündnis mit Orissa brach es macht mich frage mich, ob er die Allianz mit uns brechen würde, wenn wir uns weigern. Was denken Sie? Ich kann nur sein, paranoid, aber ich möchte mein Reich zu bleiben. Wenn wir könnten eine Art loses System mit rotierenden Kaiser aus jedem Bereich, es könnte funktionieren. Ich versuche nur, um alle Basen sozusagen decken. Meine Union würde viel wie die EU funktioniert, wäre es den gegenseitigen Schutz für alle Staaten bieten, jedes Mitgliedsland kann nicht Krieg gegen die anderen ohne einen guten Zweck von der Kaiserlichen Rat weitergeleitet. Wir würden noch behalten unsere jeweiligen Empires, sondern auch eine große, wir erholen sich erweitern, solange sie nicht im Widerspruch zu einer Allianz oder früheren Bestellung durch den Kaiser sitzt sein. und mein letzter Wunsch ist, dass wenn eine Nation nicht gerne die Union, die es lebt seine Nützlichkeit, wir dürfen uns von der Union ziehen ohne Konflikte. Was sind Ihre Ideen?

Google is your friend.Andr3w777 (talk) 17:26, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

India Stuff in NAV
Could I talk to you about it on chat if you are free? :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:19, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

No, um you did okay.. not too bad for a non German. I do believe our next step will be to present these ideas to the Brandenburgers. I will only accept a Union if these laws are observed, otherwise the deal is um off, i think is the English term?

As for you, the proper form for your is ihre, whereas as a simple you is Sie(formal) or ihr(informal) exmp. (Wie ist Ihre Name- What is your name?) vs  (Sie trinken- You drink). Hope that helped some.

If we get him to accept I will need your help in drafting our laws and constitution, I like to go into great detail, trying to make it look real.

On a random note, how is Australia? I have been not and would like to go one day.Andr3w777 (talk) 17:20, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Can u come on chat please? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:02, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

What time are you usually present on the wiki (GMT)? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:39, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

So, what are the plans for Greater Germany currently?

23:45, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Oh man, thank god. Much better times. Yet I'll probably be able to talk to you on Saturday or Sunday. Depends, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:45, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

SureAndr3w777 (talk) 17:55, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

I would like to add an addendum to the proposal, I already sent Scraw a perliminary overview last night, i agree with majority of the what you've listed, however i feel its more eqitable to have a rotating emperorship set in five year terms, a life term is too long, and many things can happen negatively, just look at how the old HRE fell apart. Also We will have a Central Navy, but will also retain our own private navies. As for our miliatries, i agree. However i ask that for the sake of unity you drop catholicism, i dont know if you are aware, but the Pope is a puppet of the french crown, the real Papacy is gone, German Christianity is exactly the same as catholicism, only the Patriarch is free from gvernment influences, it isnt any different in rites, creed or structure. Andr3w777 (talk) 17:24, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

I do believe your right with the navies. As for Catholicism, we will declare Saxon lands as a special religous autonomous division, as we live in the age of enlightenment, it shouldn't be too hard to remain friendly, especiall since Bavaria and Saxony have been allies since before and after the reformation.Andr3w777 (talk) 20:30, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

okay, give me everything we've agreed upon, im going to make a Germanic Union page soon.Andr3w777 (talk) 20:34, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

You may overview the page and add any other useful element.

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Greater_Germanic_Union_(Principia_Moderni_II_map_game)

cheersAndr3w777 (talk) 23:21, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Since both my nations and yours use the Adler, Scraw wants to use his mark, citing his silver reserves and stuff, but i refuse, my money is worth a lot. I am the only nation that has a monopoly on banking in Europe, I have spices from Asia and gold and diamonds from africa. what do you think honestly?Andr3w777 (talk) 19:54, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

very wellAndr3w777 (talk) 02:39, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Technical Answer
Yeah, that section is a touch special.

There's an extra line of the template that you can add that will have the effect you desire. Have a look at the template itself and you'll see it. The one with "list" in it.

Lordganon (talk) 08:39, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, almost no one sees that thing there. Thought that would help. Lordganon (talk) 11:14, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that sounds great, though I will need your help in writting that event as I am rather ignorant to the things you are talking about, and I fear my understanding of your idea isn't good enough to write a good enough mod event. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:22, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

PM2 GGU
I, Prussia, would ask you, both as a German state and as a current ally via the Greater Germanic Union, to guarantee my independence in the Congress of Avalon. Lithuania has asked for an alliance against me hoping to completely rob me of my independence, Brandenburg has responded by giving them an alliance which if they acted upon would completely go against the rules of the Greater Germanic Union. This alliance and guarantee would not be against Brandenburg, just against the destruction of me as Prussia. I would be grateful and would be in your debt.

There is also an offer of an alliance to take my ancestral German homeland back from Lithuania, this would not be a complete annexation but would take mainly border territories. Beyond those territories which I wish to reclaim, those lands are up for grabs to my allies. I hope you will support me there too. Kunarian TALK 07:54, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Chat please, Cal! Some map quieries in NAV. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:43, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Read Von's proposal of the GGU page, then tell me what you think.Andr3w777 (talk) 07:00, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Discussions
can we have a private dicussion say around 7 pm GMT/UTC on private chat? I need to discuss some things with you, maybe we can also see about trying to salvage whats left of the GGU.Andr3w777 (talk) 15:40, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Wir müssen privat sprechen bald. Ich habe einige Dinge von großer Bedeutung, um mit Ihnen zu diskutieren, und ich brauche Ihre Unterstützung.Andr3w777 (talk)

It has begun.Andr3w777 (talk) 03:48, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Algo is completed. Without chance, I show 164.25 vs 34. This is still rough, and I will expect the Mods to alter it around, but we are set. Declare it ASAP, so I may post it. <span style="border:3px solid blue; "> <font color="#FF0000" face="Sans-Serif" title="Reximus">Reximus   <font color="#FF0000" face="Sans-Serif" title="Talk">Maximus  06:24, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry I got your nation wrapped up in this, if we loose it is completely my fault. I was led astray, lied to, told i could win and should attack, and now I may have subjected both of our nations to annhilation. I did what I felt was right, but I made a mistake, and now we are both going to suffer the fate.Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 22:39, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

I ended the war btwTrust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 11:37, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

The Catholic King of Tanimbarkai requests an alliance with you as he is tired of high Arab taxes on his Kingdom. He offers to become a German vassal in exchange for you promising that German taxes on his nation reach no higher than 10% rather than the current 30% the Arabs charge. Other than that Tanimbarkai will be your vassal to rule. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 11:29, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

I'm dismantling my empire as I am leaving the game. I'm going on my exchange year to Hong Kong soon so I really doubt I'll have time to play. Hence in these last few years I will be taking all of my gains apart into new nations and such. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:11, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Okay I done my last post as Tanimbarkai so feel free to post as them now and what you want. Read over my posts to get a bit of a feel then do what you think they'd do now. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 21:48, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

pmii
join me on chat?Cookiedamage (talk) 09:46, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Chat? Hailstormer (talk) 10:17, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Callum, Rex has been banned for two weeks on the wikia so you are not going to get a reply on Oldenburg till then. However you may have a different way of getting it. Also, for the sake of continuity in game, how about I offer a gift of gold and premium Alaskan furs, so that we can put the issue with the Faroe Islands to an end? Hailstormer (talk) 10:53, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Callum. It seems that Crim, me, and Courageous have pretty much won against Ethiopia, so I was thinking I could give you the Ethiopian Australia colony next to yours in exchange for the former Neu Mecklenburg and all the territory currently attached to it.

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