US Civil War (Map Game)

This is a map game and the point of divergence is a Confederate victory at Gettysburg.

The game will begin on March 28, 2011. If there are not enough players, it will be moved up to April 12, the anniversary of the firing on Fort Sumter. The South is supposed to win its war of independance, but after that it its all fair game.

ANY PERSON ERASING ANOTHER PERSONS WORK WILL BE BANNED FROM THIS GAME!!!!

The turns are in half years and you can go once per turn.

You must stay with the facts but a little myth mixed in is alright as well

The rules will be the exact same as the Axis vs Allies.

All diplomatic agreements will take place on the US Civil War Map Game Diplomacy Page.

Back to pageModerators: There will be 5 moderators, and they must have been in other map games.

Nations:
You may add a nation if it does not appear on the list of countries

the Confederate States of America: Rebelsoldier 15:12, March 21, 2011 (UTC)Rebelsoldier

United States of America: CrimsonAssassin 15:37, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Britian: Matt

France:Baconton 10:28, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Prussia/ German city states: Rcox1995 23:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Spain: BlackSkyEmpire 23:11, March 22, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

Mexico:169.204.229.74 14:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brazil:Collie Kaltenbrunner 22:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Colombia: Fed (talk) 14:11, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Russia:Whitesight 23:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

China:Ocelot9011 23:48, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Japan: Bobalugee1940 21:20, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Austria-Hungary: Elyski729 21:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Chile:

Argentina:

Peru:Collie Kaltenbrunner 22:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ecuador:

Venezuala:

Bolivia:

Paraguay: Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:17, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Guatemala:

Haiti:

Italy:

Thailand: Batmanary 01:11, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Honduras:

Costa Rica:

San Salvador:

Nicaragua: Korea: PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 19:57, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

THE GAME

1863.6
Confederacy: Confederate troops at Gettysburg defeat the Union Army of the Potomac after Pickets Charge succeeds and CS calvary surround the Union forces, wanting recognition by a European power, the ANV marches torwrds Philidelphia due to the corps defending Washington DC.

Spain: Spanish authorities begin enlisting more men into the Navy and Army, in order to help bolster there forces at both home and at there colonies such as the Phillipines, Puerto Rico, and Cuba. In scientific terms, Spanish mechanics and scientist alike begin testing new steam devices and armor for ships in which they end up in creating an armored frigate powered by a steam engine, although production is slow due to lack of parts.

Siam fortifies its territories, (which are still huge at this point.). They offer the British assistance in trade in British Burma, in exchange for arms. Having Siam as an ally would prevent France from getting a hold in Asia. Siam modernizes its army and prepares to invade Viet Nam with its newly acquired weapons, but also asks for a formal alliance with Britain.

The British agree to supply surplus arms and equipment, as well as promising that they won't expand beyond their current borders in SE Asia barring war with another European power. The navy is significantly improved, and several regiments redeploy from Great Britain to New Brunswick, putting pressure on the US. The first shipment of arms to Burma (composed of roughly 4,000 old Model 1755 muskets and ~30 light field pieces) is scheduled to arrive in January of 1864.



France: The French prepare for war with the U.S.A..

Why would France help the CSA?

Both sides requested help from European countries.

However, France would probably respond to the US forces, not the CSA forces.

'''Britain and France had a deal, where if the CSA captured Philadelphia, they would officially help them. (The CSA)'''

Yes, but Philidelphia wasn't captured yet.

French Forces enter Mexico city, French forces spread out to defeat the remaining Mexican forces.

Maximilian the 1st is put in control of the new Mexican monarcht.

France asks for an allaince with Austria-Hungary and the U.K..

France accepts the allanice with Joseobn.

(The French prepare for war with the U.S.A. in late 1863.) DIPLOMATIC SECRET!

USA: American troops fight off CSA forces at Philidelphia, holding the line. They secure the Potomac and take some land surrounding it. This will prevent the CSA from taking Philidelphia or the Potomac again.

They also request an alliance with France, England, Spain, Italy, and Japan.

Paraguay: Recently elected president of Paraguay, Francisco Solano López, is traveling the Paraguayan countryside when he sees a hill which he believes will be the key to his enlightenment on how to rule his country. He asks the driver to stop and pull aside, and asks the owner of the ranch whether he could spend a day meditating under a shade tree. He falls asleep and is awoken by the sound of a cow, and is so startled, he jerks out of his sleep, and startles a mule, who kicks a bucket and hits Solano in the head, knocking him out. A small stampede runs over him, breaking his foot and causing it to become infected. He dies later in the year.

Austria-Hungary: weapons and arms are sent to the Confederacy because of horrible Austro-Hungarian relations with the U.S.A. The Austro-Hungarian rail system is near completion

Joseon: Joseon begins a period of cooperation with the western powers, bring in technology such as guns, ships, and more. They ask for an alliance with the CSA, Japan, China, UK, and France. They begin to improve their inadequet army and navy, which are both in disrepair due to corrupt officials.

Britain accepts, in exchange for a 50-year lease on Jeju Island. Upon Korea agreeing to this, they will immediately receive a sum of 1.7 million pounds (roughly 82 billion dollars in todays currency), four outdated gunboats, and 7,000 muskets. Aide in the form of advisors, engineers, and such is exected to arrive within the next two years.

Russia reforms its military introducing conscription and creating a reserve. Russia creates new military schools its officers teaching new tactics modeled after other European, Russia also begins modernising its navy.

Spain: Thanks to close production ties with the German states, Spain is able to establish a constant amount of material for goods, infrastructure, and most importantly the production of its newly created Steam powered Cruiser. Spainish officals also begin looking torwards the Civil War as a profit expander and it begins to sell products to both sides from Cuba.

1864
France:The French consolidate thier hold on Mexico. France delares war on the U.S.A. Contingents of the French Foreign Legion land in New Orleans and take steamboats up to assult Chicago. French Troops begin joing in the with Confederate armies.

It is demanded that the U.S.A. leave the Confederates alone or worse will yet come!

'''But the CSA didn't capture Philidelphia yet! The CSA guy said the troops were making their way to Philidelphia.'''

Joseon: Joseon agrees to Britain's proposal, but offers 15 more years for 10,000 rifles and 5 ships, along with military advisors, trainers, etc.

CSA: The ANV captures Erie and stripps it of value. 3 ironclads are there and are then manned by Confederate sailors who sail them out of the St Lawrence and then south to break the Union blockade. The CSA asks Britian, Prussia, and Spain for an alliance. After a few weeks ofd resting in Erie, the ANV marches north east wards and afetr a 2 month siege, (with the help of the 3 ironclads) captures New York City, causing many of its residents to flee north to Boston and New England. The NYC harbor is also holding 7 warships, 4 ironclads( 2 monitors), and 5 gunboats, giving the CSA 16 new ships for its navy. This "Rebel" sqaudrin as it is nicknamed by Robert E Lee, soon sets up a protective blockade of New York harbor, blocking any US attack on the ANV. The CSA tells France and Britian that in return for recognition and declaration of war on the USA, it will abolish slavery by 1885. The Confederate Army of South Texas (50,000 men) waits for orders from Richmond, and hopefully, the Spanis, German, and British declaration of war on the Union.

'''3 Ironclads and the ANV can't take down a huge city full of ships and troops. This is completely implausible. Also, do not delete my posts again.'''

'''I didnt delete your thing. You cant control the border states, that will be the moderators jobs. Kentucky is pro south, or at the least, neutral, so Kentucky does not declare its allegance t the Union. Maryland is also pro south, West Vrginia is yours to play with, but the other border stats beside Deleware, are under mine or the Moderators control. I DID DELTE KENTUCKY PLEDGING ALLEGANCE TO THE USA, BUT THST IS ALL.'''

'''The Border States have not left the Union. Therefore, they are mine.'''

USA: Kentucky and Maryland pledge their alleigance to the US. The US consolidate their defenses around Philidelphia and DC. By now, an attack on Philidelphia or DC would be highly impractical. Cannons bombard the forces attacking Chicago. The USA asks for an alliance from Joseon, Russia, Britain, Japan, and China.

'''Joseon accepts, but just reminding you, you have to give the CSA independence. That's the rule.'''

Joseon is the CSA's ally, who's side are you on?!

Russia accepts

Russia: Russia continues to modernise its military by modernising their weapons. Russia also begins subsidizing and giving grants the Russian American Company in return the Russian American Company agrees to establish new settlements for new colonists from Russia. Russia begins a resettlement program encouraging people to settle in Russian Alaska

Great Britain: British troops continue to redeploy along the US-DoC border from New Brunswick to Columbia, prepping for war with America. England's already massive navy is improved and expanded, and commerce raiding begins against American shipping. Aid continues to be sent to Joseon and Siam, while several obsolete warships and ~40 field pieces are donated to the Confederate war effort.

'''Britain declared their neutrality, along with France, in the American Civil War. They said out loud, "We're sitting this one out." In fact, even before the war, the British prime minister declared that Britain would mantain neutrality. There was nothing OTL saying anything about Philidelphia. In fact, what you guys had said is quite the opposite of OTL.'''

'''I believe you are incorrect. The British and French governments provided massive amounts of arms to the Confederate government, much as the French did to the Americans in the Revolutionary War. Which prime minister was it? Both Aberdeen and Derby were anti-American.'''

'''Actually, neither of them served during the war. Henry John Temple was the Prime Minister during the American Civil War. He served from 1859-1865. Convinient huh? He was the guy who said Britain will mantain neutrality, though that was threatened in the Trent Affair, which was resolved in 1862. The resolution of the Trent affair dealt a serious blow to Confederate diplomatic efforts. First, it deflected the recognition momentum developed during the summer and fall of 1861. It created a feeling in Great Britain that the United States was prepared to defend itself when necessary, but recognized its responsibility to comply with international law. Moreover, it produced a feeling in Great Britain and France that peace could be preserved as long as the Europeans maintained strict neutrality in regard to the American belligerents.'''

'''Also, the two were economically interdependent on each other. Britain needed grain from America and knew that war meant no grain from America.'''

As for France, they also wanted to remain neutral in the war.

France in the American Civil War

Britain in the American Civil War

Siam: Siamese troops invade Viet Nam and with their newly acquired weapons, easily start to gain success in the region. Attacks on Saigon and Hanoi start, and the two cities are captured in the name of the king. Siam offers Britain military access, to the country.

Japan: The Japanese Shogun responds to the Hamaguri Rebellion by brutaly crushing the rebellion but loosens the isolationist policies. Japanese troops takes control of the Ryukyu Islands. The Japenese Navy begins modernizations into modern ironclads.

Just want to remind whoever's playing as Japan, that the Meiji Restoration has not happened yet, therefore, the Shogun makes the decisions, not the Emperor.

Gracias for telling me that.

Austria-Hungary: Alliance with France accepted. Austria-Hungary begins research in breech loaded rifles.

Paraguay: After a short period of chaos due to the death of Francisco Solano López, Cirilo Antonio Rivarola manages to take power, and is unanimously elected as president, despite being the only candidate. He loosens some of the economic policies that he called "ultra-isolationist." Rivarola requests economic aid and investment from both the Union and Confederacy, saying it will decide which side to join depending o technological and economic assistance.

Spain: The Spanish goverment warns Great Britain that war with the US is interferring with a war that had little to do with them, they also show results of a recent poll made by members of the Spanish kings advisors show that the need for Confederate cotton in Britain went from 70-80% to 10-20%.

The CSA calls for a meeting in Bermuda with its Allies Britian and Austria-Hungary. '''THIS IS TOP SECRET, SO NO USA FINDONG OUT AND CAPTRING THE CSA AND ITS ALIES LEADERS! '''

The CSA offers Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Colombia, the French puppet state of Mexico and Chile for an aliance.

1864.6
The United States takes parts of Virginia and Tennessee. Other parts of Virginia are bombarded and ransacked. They offer France, Mexico, Italy, and Brazil for an alliance. Meanwhile, relations with some Native American tribes increase.

Russia: Seeing Britans deployment of troops in Columbia angers frightens and angers Alexander II. Alexander redeploys his newly trained troops to to Alaska in case Britain attempts to attack Russian Alaska. Alexander promises vast lands to emancipated serfs who move to Russian Alaska. The emacipated serfs sees this as a great opportunity and the Russian population will have tripled in Alaska by 1865.6. Russia continues to modernise its navy.

Paraguay: Paraguay works on its economy, improving port facilities on the Paraguay River. President Rivarola makes more anti-protectionist measures, but refuses to lift most protectionism from nearby Brazil and Argentina.

Siam capures most of Viet Nam, and formally annexes it. The Siamese King invites the Vietnamese Emperor to his Palace, and tells him that he is welcome to stay anywhere in Siam, and none of his privileges will be taken away, and that he is also free to leave if he wishes so. The Vietnamese Emperor decides to stay in the newly-Siamese Viet Nam. Siam sends an envoy to London to officially start trade. They also ask to buy Tenasserim from Britain in exchange for a lot of money, and open trade ports in Siam, as well as full military access. Siam also sends an offer of alliance to Japan.

Joseon continues to modernize and reform, and send Russia, Paraguay, and Siam alliances. Meanwhile, the first shipments of the guns start to arrive, and Korean engineers begin to manufacture their own ones.

France: Lands an army in Norfolk and the Eastern Shore.

'''Look, France would not help the CSA. They never supplied weapons to the CSA. I don't know where you guys heard that, but it never happened and if it is ATL, it is implausible.'''

Armys come through California.

Mass Levys are raised in French Mexico to terate California,

Brazil starts to work in its economy.

Spain: The Spanish navy continues to grow day by day with each ship being revised in order to meet the new demans needed to overcome all sea faring threats. Spanish troops are positioned in Cuba and they warn Britain that war with the United States means that spains millitary would take actions against the Confederate States. In Asia, Spain finally allows the local population to practice there religon of there wishes, although many who turn to Chrisitianity are payed for there change of religon.

China: China goes under a democratic revoution and is renamed the Republic of China and raise stability through out China. China also captures Japan and offers an alliance to Korea.


 * Ridiculous, but maybe it would work if it took place over at least 10-15 years or so.

Austria-Hungary: 50,000 soldiers are placed on the Serbian border after a dispute. Alliance offer sent to Prussia. More weapons and ammunition sent to the Confederacy

1865
Peru: declares war against Ecuador..

United States: Union forces capture Richmond and the surrounding area. Also, California's military is amped up.

'''YOU CANT JUST KEEP ON CAPTURING CS TERRITORY AND CITIES, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALY BE REALISTIC, IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST A 4 MONTH SIEGE TO TAKE RICMOND AND AT LEAST HALF A MONT TO PREPARE FOR IT AS WELL AS MARCING TO rICMOND WHICH WOULD BE HEAILY DEFENDED BY CONFEDERATE TROOPS, MINES, AND DEFENSE MECHANISMS. '''

'''It sure would take a four month siege, you are correct. Each turn takes six months. So calm down.'''

The CSA offers an armistice to the USA. Kentucky, Maryland, and the Arizona territory join the Confederacy due to US forces imposing martial law in these territories/states,, and all join as the states of Kentucky, Maryland, and Arizona, Washington is surrounded and the Maryland miltia lays siege to the city as the ANV marches south and at the Battle of Montgomery County, deals a serious blow to the Army of the Potomac, killing 24,894 Union troops and wounding 11,256, with Washingtons defences nearby, the Army of the Potomac, with 67,000 men, scarcley manages to enter Washington DC and prepare for the long siege. The US federal government escapes, and its location is unknown but to the USA itself. After a month, the Army of the Potomac escapes across the Potomac and begins to march torwards Richmond, not knowing the Confederate government escapes to Montgomery, which rebecomes the CS capital. Jefferson Davis remains in Richmond along with the rest of the Executive branch. The Congress escapes however This appened beofre the USA took Richmond, so Richmond is in Union hands as is the Exefcutive branch of the CSA, but the Congress of the CSA is begginng to make up for it by giving the Presidensy to Confederate Sentaor William E. Simms. Washington remains under siege.

Look, Maryland and Kentucky pledged alliegance to the US.

The CSA offers the USA peace, and tarriff free trade with the Union as well as a defensive pact between the pact if the Union accepts, as well as abolishing slavery by 1880, or earlier, and secretly, a miltary pact to split Mexico, and that the CSA itself will pay France for its loss. TOP SECRET.

Siam: engineers create a somewhat more advanced version of the basic muskets that were given to them by Britain. Siam also works to create a cultural union out of all the lands it currently holds, and creates a port in Saigon.

Japan: The Shogun brutally crushes another rebellion causing even larger protest with-in the military itself. As of now it is unknown what this will lead to

Paraguay: Paraguay comes to Uruguay's aid after it was invaded by Brazil, initiating an alliance. Paraguay upgrades its military with new muskets and uniforms.

Brazil: asks for a non-aggression pact with Paraguay.
 * Paraguay agrees to the alliance in return for a lease on Brazilian territory south of the Igauzú River, although Brazil would be allowed to keep most of the coastal area. Paraguay would also offer a large sum of money and free trade in Paraguay's two ports.
 * Brazil accepts.

CSA: The CS presidency is turned over to Confederate Sentaor William E. Simms who pledges that once te war is over, the Presidency will be returned to its rightful owner. The CSA sends 2 million dollars to Paraguay in economic aid as well as 20,000 tons of cotton, corn, and wheat.