Greater Europe (Map Game)

Rules

 * 1) Everything must be realistic - plausible. Don't make it another alien space bat game.
 * 2) The starting year is 1935.
 * 3) You can create a new nation, and it will have either all modern technologies, or it can be third-world nation, if you choose so.
 * 4) Only mod shall declare the next turn.
 * 5) If you want to add a plan of your city, with streets, etc., add it near your country turn's summary.
 * 6) If you have a question, post it on the talk page.
 * 7) You must use algorithm, when you invade another nation, shall it be NPC or Player(see Useful Links).
 * 8) One day in real life = one season ingame: Winter, Spring, Summer, Autumn. There is an exception, that mods may start new turn, if all nations have done their turn, or reasons similar to these(refer to rule 4).
 * 9) You must add your nation to the Diplomacy Page(See Useful Links).
 * 10) You can't take over the whole major-power nation in one turn. You will be fighting for specific regions, for example, Stalingrad Region in one counting of turn.
 * 11) You are considered inactive after 5 days of not posting something about your country, or not contacting me, that you're going for on-leave.
 * 12) You can become a major power, if: a) Neutral Moderator makes you one. b) When your territory is big enough to be actually considered big. c) If you win 5 wars in a row.
 * 13) Dropping nukes: Only 1 nuke per season. You can drop it on one city. Then, the population of that city will be taken and put into random org as a max value. The generated random number will mean the number of people killed. This may affect the population bonus during the wars with someone. However, only mods can do these random.org's.
 * 14) If you want to unite a country to yours(best way): 1) Send your party to them. 2) Ask a moderator to do a RNG for your party, how many votes would it receive. 3) Wait a few years. 4) Ask a mod to do a RNG if the country would agree to unite with yours. 5) One unification per 2 years.

Useful links

 * Diplomacy Page
 * Major Events of Greater Europe
 * Algorithm for Greater Europe
 * Talk Page
 * Finances Page (use only for approx. reference)
 * United Nations
 * Axis Powers

Changes

 * 1) Updated. 17:12, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Requests

 * N/A

Map-Makers

 * 1) Doctor261 (Head Cartographer)

Mods

 * Doctor261 (Moderator-in-chief)
 * Azecreth (Moderator, ace of history)

Sign ups
Major Powers


 * 800px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy - Doctor261
 * [[Image:Imperial Japanese Army.png|25px|border]] Empire of Great Japan (大日本帝國) - -Kogasa
 * Germany.JPG The Third Reich - VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!)
 * Flag_of_Great_Britain.png Great Britain -
 * 100px-Flag_of_France_svg.png France - I WILL NOT BE SILENCED!!! DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 19:06, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * (dai)usa48flag.png USA -Enclavehunter 13:53, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Zhukov's Union.png ^USSR - Imperium Guy 12:45, December 9, 2011 (UTC) (DIVIDED BETWEEN THE USA, THIRD RIECH, ITALY, and CHINA)
 * Comunist-influenced flag.png ^China RandomWriterGuy 05:05, June 24, 2012 (UTC) (CONTROLLED BY KOGASA)
 * Brazil Nazi Flag.png ^Brazil --Lx (leave me a message)


 * (dai)australiaflag.png ^Australia -הודים 18:44, November 27, 2011 (UTC) {C}

Minor Powers


 * Light Blue Flag of Iceland.jpg ^Kingdom of Iceland - Westsylvania 00:05, November 17, 2011 (UTC)Westsylvania
 * Flag_of_Ethiopia.png ^Ethiopia -RandomWriterGuy 05:33, June 24, 2012 (UTC) (ANNEXED BY ITALY)
 * 600px-Flag_of_Romania_svg.png ^Romania- Althistoryman11
 * Flag_of_Mongolia.png Mongolia -
 * Flag_of_Canada.png Canada - Eurasia12 (ANNEXED/OCCUPIED BY USA)
 * Mexico.png ^Mexico
 * Flag_of_Belgium.png ^Belgium - GRSGov
 * Netherlands.flag.png ^Netherlands -
 * 220px-Flag_of_Venezuela_1930-2006_svg.png ^Venezuela -TacoCopper 23:43, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * 800px-Flag_of_Greece_svg.png ^Greece - Lynxes21
 * 250px-State_Flag_of_the_Kingdom_of_Yugoslavia.svg.png ^Yugoslavia - Stephen.valentine1
 * 800px-Flag_of_Cuba.svg.png ^Cuba - TornadoM (ANNEXED BY THE UNITED STATES)
 * Flag of the Land of Valencia (official).svg.png Valencia - ~Sereniama~ | Page ▪ Talk ▪ Wiki Contributions | 05:18, November 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Communist flag of turkey.png Union of Ottoman Socialist Republics: DeanSims 23:31, November 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 600px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png ^Switzerland -
 * 150px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png ^Portugal -
 * Flag of India.png^India: DeanSims 15:24, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Flag_of_Thailand.png Thailand -
 * Flag_of_the_Tsardom_of_Bulgaria.png Bulgaria -
 * Finland.flag.png Finland -
 * Norway.flag.png Norway - TDZinc My dad is not a phone!  DUH!! 14:16, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Flag_of_Sweden.PNG Sweden -
 * 800px-Flag_of_Spain_under_Franco_1938_1945.svg.png Nationalist Spain -
 * Bolivia -

The ones with a ^ can be taken over, because these people are inactive. If you're back, remove the ^ please.

The Game
Archives 1935-1940 (Greater Europe)

Archives 1941-1945 (Greater Europe)

Archives 1946-1950 (Greater Europe)

Archives 1951-1955 (Greater Europe)

Late Winter

 * Italy prepares the plans for the invasion of Turkey, which they justify to other Axis members as another part of recovery of Roman empire. The military recruitment is doubled. People of Ethiopia gain more rights, but no rights to vote(speaking of actual ethiopians, not italian colonists). High prize is being offered to the one who designs best-looking national weapon.


 * Japanese Republic: Japan continues to build up their military and improve infrastructure. The Kanto Region experiences elections time. Soon, Ibaraki, Tochigi, Gunma, Saitama, Chiba, Tōkyō, Kanagawa Prefectures have elections and the 'Japanese Liberal Peace Party' (Tōhōkai) wins all those elections. Prime Minister Kiyoko Ono secretly has any communists in Japan to be found, put on boats, and killed at once. President Shigeru Yoshida has yet another meeting with the members of the East Asian Union (Thailand, Indochina, Tibet, and Korea). In China, President 'Huang Ming' (aka Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) continues to have the Soviets brainwashed and re-educated, and has plans to secretly take down Tibet, Nepal, and Bhutan next; and also has eyes on Japan, and also continues secretly funding the Tōhōkai Party so that they are more successful in elections and stuff.
 * United States: Siberia continues to be purged of communists and replace them with Fascits. Meanwhile, the first composite tank prototype is constructed and plans to make an fleet of them. The Fascit Party of the United States is elected as President after the mysterious death of the President, Vice-President, Speaker of the House, and other lines of sucession. Each govermnet officails is replaced with an Fascit leader, and the first Fascits President becomes President. Satellites and nuclear weapons are developed ounce again, and plans for an space station in space begins, but has limited dreams for nows. The Fascit President soon begins to order an massive military build up along the Mexican-American border and states to the nations of the world that the destruction of the Drug Cartel must begin earlier than before, and to destroy the long time enemy of the United States.
 * Bolivian Diplomacy: It is shocked to see a dictator rule a once free country.
 * American Diplomacy: He's not an dictator. We are still free. He's just an fascits goverment, Congress still exists, House of Representatives Exist, the people can still vote. The Democratic and Republican Party still exists, but slowly loosing members.
 * Canada: Canada, due to its concerns with the fascist within the United States, are forced into making defenses within their borders and begin recruiting troops until the active military size has reached to 4,000,000 men in a state of emergency under the Prime Minister. Meanwhile, Canadian forces in the UK still continue to fight with the French armies in order to defend their British allies. Nuclear research is slowly performed within Quebec.


 * ​ No nuclear research for non-major powers.
 * The Third Reich: The Reich puts down the last remaining major Soviet rebel army. The Reich sets up many labour camps across Russia where communists and other enemies of the state are sent in order to contribute to the Reich. Many of them are worked to death, and the old gulags are converted into labour camps too. A few gulags in the far north in the Arctic circle remain as gulags where the worst criminals in the Reich are sent to be tortured & imprisoned. Military aid is sent to help France invade the UK. The Reich asks the other axis nations to honour the pact of steel and aid their axis ally France in her invasion of the UK.
 * Canada refuses to backdown and asks for the democratic nations of the world to aid the UK against fascist invasion.
 * The Reich never asked you to back down. We just want the other Axis powers to join the war already!
 * Romania: Romania agrees to help France and sends their best battalion of Battleships en route to the English Channel.
 * Italy sends 20,000 marines to France to help with defeating Great Britain. Meanwhile, the rest of the military is prepared for an invasion of Canada.
 * France: After oer a year of hard fighting, the French Army takes London, and then moves on to secure the bulk of England. The Third Riech offers Alasce and Loraine if the Riech delcares war on Britain. Scotland can become a German puppet state if the Riech helps. The French airofrce now has bases on the main Britsh isles and continues to bomb all of Britain within its grasp. Th French government thanks the Riech for its aid and with this more breakthroughs are made. Germany is promised aid in putting down Soviet rebels after Britain falls. Germany and the Axis are aked for naval aid to completley encase Britan in a blockade.
 * The Reich formally declares war on Britain, and sends in the German navy to blockade Britain. U-boats wreck havoc & disruption on British shipping in the Atlantic & North Sea. More troops are sent to join the French army in Southern England to help in taking over all of Britain.
 * American Diplomacy: The United States declares war on Britain and sends an naval fleet towards Jamaica and the other British islands across the Caribbean.
 * Bolivia: Bolivia continues economic, military, social, and political reform and growth all across the country. They declare war on Chile to gain access to the sea, especially the northern area. They sign a non-aggression pact with Peru to ensure that they will not get invaded.
 * Romania: Romania increases and updates it's Army(Navy,Airforce ect) Economy, infrastructure and technology. The Romanian gov't begins to Romanianization of area of USSR given to Romania.

Spring
'''British soldiers fight with last weapons of their hope. Their ammunition is close to end. Generals of the world predict the end of the war in the summer.'''
 * Japanese Republic: Japan continues to build up their military and improve infrastructure. Prime Minister Kiyoko Ono secretly alters election times for a few Prefectures that has the Liberal Democratic Party re-elected (Kyoto, Shiga, Hyōgo, Miyagi, Fukushima, and Shizuoka Prefectures) there be losing in the next elections; and the elections will take place at the end of this year. President Shigeru Yoshida orders for more tanks and ships and aerocraft carriers to be built, and improves the economy. In China, President 'Huang Ming' (aka Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) continues to have the Soviets brainwashed and re-educated, and invades British-held China to have it annexed back into China.
 * British soldiers show some resistance, but with minimum force, because it didn't expect the attack to happen.The citizens do no show any signs of resistance, but the emigration raises, since most of people living there do not speak chinese.
 * The Third Reich: The Reich amps up the military and builds more military bases across Germany and the other occupied territories. A few communist terrorist attacks happen in Russia but the terrorists are found & punished severally before being put to death. The German navy seizes the Shetland islands, and prepares to take the Orkney islands, as more men are sent to fight Britain.
 * United States: The Americanization Siberia continues, such as the construction of 50s and 60s style homes begin. The roads are paved, and two seaport bases are constructed to support the Bering Sea Navy. Meanwhile, American tanks and soldiers land across the shores of British Guyana, Jamaica, and former French Guyana, and encounters heavy resistance but manages to break through. The first composite tank, nicknamed will be released next season, More satellies are launched and construction on the first part of an space station begins (NOT SURE).
 * France: French and Axis forces take the erst of Wales and England fully. Scotalnd is invaded from the north sandwhiching Britsih forces between two waves of Axis troops. The governemnt barley escapes to Northern Ireland, and Scotland is subdued with the evacuation of the last Britsih Army to North Ireland. France begins to reorganize its Empire into an Imperial Federation.
 * France offers the following post war borders. Scotland goes to Germany either as a puppet or territroy, America gets all Britsh Carribean Islands, France gets the rest of Britain and its own stolen Guyana. Italy will recieve the British Guyana. Rumania gets Malta. OFFER.png
 * Italy accepts.
 * US agrees.
 * The Reich accepts and sets up Scotland as a puppet state like Poland.
 * Bolivia: It declares war on Chile by invading the northern part of the country to gain access to the sea. Their armies head south through the countryside, aiming to seize the port cities there. (ALOGYTHM PLEASE)
 * So now, from being a democratic person not supporting fascists, you become a dictator and invade a random country? I won't even make an algorithm for that. You automatically lose. Also, your "non-aggression" pact with Peru is voided, since you automatically said that they agreed.
 * I am talking about Peru not being invaded. Also, fascists are dictatorships. Bolivia is still a democracy.
 * That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Summer

 * Japanese Republic: Japan continues to build up their military and improve infrastructure. President Shigeru Yoshida improves the economy a bit more. Prime Minister Kiyoko Ono secretly alters election times again, this time bring Karafuto, Chishima, Taiwan, Hainan, Tokushima, Kagawa, Ehime, and Kōchi Prefectures would have elections, and forces a new election for President by this winter; so hopefully all remaining areas that still have the Liberal Democratic Party in power will be finally kicked out. She also secretly alters the elections in advance. In China, President 'Huang Ming' (aka Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) continues to invades British-held China and continues fighting as best as possible.


 * Italy sends 15,000 blackshirters to China, so that they could finally prepare for an invasion of Japan. Italy also leaves UN.
 * China President 'Huang Ming' (aka Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) secretly tells the Italian blackshirts to hold off the invasion, as Japan's democracy is almost faded away, and tells that the Tōhōkai Party manages to currently control much of the country. He promises that if Japan doesn't become fascist by Spring of 1957, then the invasion can begin.


 * France: The last British Army surrenders to France adn the Axis, and the country is divided as by Frances proposed borders. Britain is no more. All of Frances conquests are annexed as by the deal. Frances stloen Guyana finaly rejoins the Empire. France directly annexes England and its portion of southern Scotland while the Celtic Union is formed as a puppet state of France out of th remaining lands of Britain, namely Wales and Northern Ireland, Gibraltar is turned into the Republic of Gibraltar and as a French puppet state. France continues its progresson turning itself into the French Federationof Nations, or otherwise a loose Federation of Frnace and its colonies into one super state, or the French Federation of Nations (FFN.) After fierce negotiations in the French legislature, it is agreed upon, and the French Federation of Nations is announced on July 4th, turning the Empire into a Imperial Federation. French Scotland is incororated into French England, and steps begin to turn England into a member of the Federation. France also invites all Axis members who participated in the war agasint Britain to a meeting in Paris.
 * American Diplomacy: We will attend.
 * German Diplomacy: The German ambassadors will be there, but wonder why France don't just post something on the talk page as that is where discussions between players should happen rather than clogging up the game page.
 * Italian Diplomacy: We will attend.
 * The Third Reich: The Reich amps up the military and builds more military bases across Germany and the other occupied territories. The Reich makes Scotland a puppet state and starts the process of imposing German control over Scotland. More police clampdowns happen in Russia as more suspected communists are sent to labour camps or re-educated.
 * United States: The United States continues to Americanize the natives of Siberia and the demolishing or burning of any and all Communist related items continues. The Bering Fleet continues to monitor the Bering Strait for weapon shipments toward rebels.10,000 American soldiers are sent to assist China in whaterver it is doing. The M1 Abrams is released onto the production line, becoming the first tank and easily destroys the old British and Canadian tanks still in use. The State of East Caribbean is formed by the captured islands and becomes the 54th state, and Jamaica becomes the 55th state. Satellite launches continue, and the first part of the space station is launched into orbit. Meanwhile, soldiers mass along the Canadian-American border in the first part of the New Manifiest Destiny, or Dominance over North and South America. The President assures other Axis members that their American possessions will not be harmed in any way, and if they are harmed, we will pay money to repair the damage.
 * French Diplomacy: France will assist in the invasion in return for Quebec, which is historicaly French.
 * American Diplomacy: We will allow that.
 * French Diplomacy: France graciously thanks America and begins to send troops across the Atlantic tot he USA. France suggests the division of The Britsih Commonwealth between the Axis, as France wants mos of Australia while the USA can have New Zealand. and after Ireland falls, Francees Guyana and Bermuda.
 * German Diplomacy: The Reich want to know why on Earth France wants Australia? the Reich can understand the other ones but Australia just seems unnecessary.
 * French Diplomacy: Can we move this over the allaince page please. And I want it to create a great Empire even greater than Britians at its hight, and becasue Australia would be a great palce for nuclear tests and Rocket/space tests.
 * Canada: The Canadians ask for peace, due to fears of invaison by fascism. Second, their plan for making their nation into a major power has failed and they wish to have complete neutrality with the major powers, due to fascist dominance.
 * Italian Diplomacy: Italy would agree to accept Canada into Axis, if: 1) They would switch to fascism. 2) US would agree not to invade them.
 * Bolivia: It asks Peru to join it to help invade Chile, and in exchange, will gain land from them. It asks them to split northern Chile between both countries. They ask France for an alliance an dtrade agremeents.
 * Italian Diplomacy: We hereby invite you to join Axis Powers.
 * Italy: Italy, after the weapon design competitions, finally chooses a winner, who developed a very unique weapon, which fires two vertical shots towards the same target, in a radius of 1cm. The weapon can be loaded with total 8 bullets(for 4 shots). It is called "ItaSh-1". Meanwhile, the major weapon developers work on upgrading this weapon to a better state before it's actually used by the military of Italian Empire. Meanwhile, a nuclear power station, with capacity of 60MW, is being built in Venice. The possible rebels are killed in Italian Russoland, and italian government orders the military to send all smart people to the concentration camps in italian mainland, where they would either be starved to death, or brainwashed and in result - released.

Autumn

 * Japanese Republic: Japan continues to build up their military and improve infrastructure. The Kyoto, Shiga, Hyōgo, Miyagi, Fukushima, Shizuoka Karafuto, Chishima, Taiwan, Hainan, Tokushima, Kagawa, Ehime, and Kōchi Prefectures all have elections, and the 'Japanese Liberal Peace Party' (Tōhōkai) wins each one. Now all the Prefectures have Fascist-Imperial governors. Shigeru Yoshida loses the presidential election, and the new president is Tokugawa Masako (Tokugawa Yoshimitsu's wife) from the 'Japanese Liberal Peace Party' (Tōhōkai). In China, President 'Huang Ming' (aka Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) decides to secretly meet with Tokugawa Masako and talk about how to unite the two nations. Meanwhile, the Chinese military is build up and continues to try and push the British out of China.
 * Italy asks China to send the british to italian labour camps, so they could have some good use. If China would agree, Italy would begin sending battleships and transport ships straight away to Chinese Britain.
 * China President 'Huang Ming' (Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) agrees, and sends all British held and captured to the Italian Labour Camps.
 * ​Italy "warmly" welcomes british people to their labour camps. Meanwhile, 59 "smart" russian people were killed in labour camps in the autumn of this year. Railroads are being built to connect the labour camps in Italian Africa. Italy occupies Cyprus, and other british islands which France did not mention.
 * United States: The United States, since we are technically still at war with Canada, launches an three-pronged attack into Canada via Vancouver, Toronto, and New Brunswick, while the US Navy bombards the coastline of Canada and an blockade is set up from Alaska to Seattle and Nova Scotia to Maine. The Infantry face tough resistance around Toronto and Ottawa, and decides to encircle and lay siege to both cities. The M1 Abrams prove powerful against the Canadian tanks, but don't do well in an urban area. B-52's being an Blitz against Toronto and Ottawa. The US Navy leaves an gap for the French to land on Qubec. Satellites are launched and the second part of the space station is sent up. The Americanization of Siberia continues.
 * Norway continues to develop, and proposes an Arctic Trade Union (ATU) between them and Canada, with other northern nations being able to request membership.
 * Italy threatens Norway, that if it will make any further friendly contact with Canada, they will wiped out.
 * Norway asks Italy why this is a problem.
 * Italy states that Canada is under Axis sphere of influence, and it has to become fascist, as it has a major strategic role on Axis domination.
 * In response, Norway destroys its plans for the ATU and attempts to reinstate its neutrality.
 * Italy congratulates Norway on changing their plans and sends Norway tons of italian wine as a sign of future partnership.
 * Bolivia: Bolivia's democratic government is deposed by a pro-fascist coup, who declare control over the country. They establish Bolivia as a one-party state, form a secret police to eliminate political dissendents, and begin mass-production and mass-mobilization. They continue to invade northern Chile with the help of Peru. They accept the Axis offer from Italy.
 * France: France launches amassive invasion of Canada through Quebec and linking up with US forces take lots of land, most notably Quebec City, and the French flag is raised once more over the city. It took over a century, but France has returned to North America. More French forces continue to our into Canada to help the USA. The Navy blockades as much o fCanada as it can in coordination with the Americans. Parts of Ontario asre also taken as well as Newfoundland. The French promise to give these ares to the USA as part of their deal after the wars end.

Winter
'''Canadian-USA war is over, with the victory of USA. '''
 * Italy kills over 5000 russians who tend to show themselves off in political spheres. Apox. 50 russians are brainwashed and recruited into Italian Army Force, where they cannot reach higher ranks than Caporale. Meanwhile, Italy finishes the plan for the Invasion of Sudan and stations the troops by its borders. Sudanese government is informed of that, but Italy does not yet bring the ultimatum.


 *  Japanese Republic: Empire of Great Japan: Japan continues to build up their military and improve infrastructure. President Tokugawa Masako begins to send spies to Korea, Thailand, and Indochina to hopefully overthrow their governments and become part of Japan; she also begins purging the last communists in Japan, and also renames Japanese Republic into the Empire of Great Japan. In China, President 'Huang Ming' (Tokugawa Yoshimitsu) and Tokugawa Masako secretly continues discussing a way to unite both nations together without causing much unrest on either side. Meanwhile, the Chinese military manage to kick out the last of the British and send them off to Italian Labour camps.
 * Italy suggest a very effective method of killing anyone who supports communism or any other type of government other than fascism. This would be a very good use for either SSR or Blackshirts.
 * President Tokugawa Masako of Japan is interested in what the effective method would be (by the way, what does the SSR stand for?).
 * Segreto Servizio Rete (Secret Service Network). The method would be exactly as stated above. Doing this in public would be a bad idea, so Italian labour camps would warmly(as always) welcome them.
 * President Tokugawa Masako of Japan understands, and decides to send people who have communist and other communist-related ideologies to the Italian Labour Camps. Though, she will convert the rest of the people with ideologies not related to fascism-imperialism be brainwashed and re-educated, and it will be done out of public view.
 * Italy sends 500 transport ships to China straight away to "help" the communists come to the "heaven".


 * The Third Reich: The Reich amps up the military and builds more military bases across Germany and the other occupied territories. Citizens across the Reich continue to be bombarded with propaganda in an effort to brainwash the populace to believe in the superiority of the Ayran race, German Reich and the fascist world order. Labour camps are opened up in Scotland to send potential terrorists and Scottish freedom fighters to. The Reich however begins investigating rumours of the Netherlands spreading liberal propaganda in western Germany and protecting enemies of the German Reich.
 * United States: The US occupation force begins to purge the Canadians of Communists and other non-Fascits goverment officals and supporters. Vancouver is annexed into the Union as the 55th state;Erie becomes the 56th state; and the Maritime Territories become the 57th state. The remainder of Canada is broken up, with parts of the southern provinces going to Washington, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, and New York. All of Canada is for now, and occupation force in Quebec continues to wait for the French. Research into advance technologies continue, and the third piece of the space station is launched. The American CIA enter's Mexico to spy on the federal goverment, find their weakness, and exploit that weakness.
 * France: France celebrates its retaing of Quebec. Parts of Ontario and Newfoundalnd and other parts of Canada not of Quebec are given to the USA. Quebec is officialy re-annexed, and Quebec joins the French Federation of Nations as its own state. The USA is thanked graciosuly and France begins massing troops on the border with Belgium and Belgiums African colonies as well as on the Dutch's colonies in Africa. The FFN reorganizes the army and in total it numbers 18 million troops from all over the FFN.


 * ​ While I'm alive, this never happens.
 * dude, thats from all over tyhe worlds territroies that are French owned.
 * Doesn't matter. Even the whole world doesn't have that big army.
 * ok, thats not true. at full mobilization wed have ay more than that many. Look at Chinas army, there HUGE. What would work?
 * China can only fully mobilize 4.5 million (including active, reserve, and paramilitary). I would suggest drop it down to 3 million total.
 * **China  even now(with reserves) has only 4.5 million <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11px;line-height:21px;">personnel . And I won't mention that France is nothing, compared to China. France didn't work on their military for dynasties. Doctor261  (Talk to Doctor261) 18:41, June 29, 2012 (UTC) Jesus I hate edit conflicts.