User talk:Vivaporius

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War Thunder
Do you play it? If so, could you tell me your username so we can squad up? Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:31, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Handle? Username you mean? Mine's implad. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:08, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Just added you. You need to have an account for me to be able to add you, lol. When you get online, I'll be able to message you in game :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:20, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

NO!! :(  Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:38, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Is this the one with the Axum and the Great Khmet Empire? Well, if you send me the link to the wiki again, I'll be able to pitch in, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:23, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

SOCrelo
Hey! Remember this game? Well, I was bored and decided to remake it.

Join.

No, really. Join.

(Guns, who is too lazy to write out his sig)

In the Ruins of the French Empire
I invite you to join my map game. In the Ruins of the French Empire (Map Game). Octivian Marius (talk) 01:30, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Peace
No, I can't give you either of those. How about Mindoro or? Panay?

15:44, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva. In PM2, you have the chance to claim all of the Philippines as your vassals still fought in the war. Plus, I'll be able to post sometimes. Thank you for the guns, btw. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:18, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Viva, I haven't played PM2 in a while and I think right now the Levant is in personal union with the Arabian Federation or however Von's nation is called right now. Fed (talk) 15:43, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

^Yeah its in personal union with the Arabian Federation and Italia. It won't be broken up any time soon as the nations are in a larger military alliance too. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 10:49, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

So, in this war, would I please be able to have Kongo. I have wanted it for ages, please? Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:52, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I guess. Well - its cruch time this year. Plus, are you ready to fly for glory?! Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:31, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Oh man, its loading up update 1.33 and I'm not sure when it'll be finished. :(  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:44, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:54, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

War Thunder, now! :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:23, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

So... any thoughts on your war vs Normandy. I mean, its kinda close to home, much like how you said my Hobyo-Somalia is close to home for you. I kind of have this thing for Normandy, and I'd like to have mainland European Normandy. You will still get all the other vassals/protectorates, but I want their mainland. Is there any way to work this out? One solution I see is that you get all of Hobyo-Somalia except for the coastal regions. Then you give me Nuovo Milano and the Mogadishan coast as well as Normandy. This is all to prevent claims of ASB, and also, the Normans will rebel in an instant. It is only logical for them to do so. {Reximus Sig} 10:34, August 12, 2013 (UTC).

Things just got a bit better... Wales just got the needed 33% to annex all of the Dutch lands. Congo and Warqama are now up for grabs. Now, understand, there is no reason for me to just give the to you, but a land swap for Normandy isn't to bad of an idea, now is it? What do you offer for the both of them? (Note: I may just chose to hang on to them) {Reximus Sig}

Ethiopia-Selk'nam relations
Hey - we haven't had much in game interaction but I'm going to start sending some emmissaries your way. I think you and I are trying to do some of the same things in  terrms of yanking the global power axis South and reversing the polarity of how things went OTL, so we should pow-wow on strategy some time. I'm doing some things underhandly that you would probably like, and I think I have some ideas regarding your interest in Europe that might plactate some of the mods while allowing you to have even more fun, that and if you want in on any of my hijinks I think they might take you a bit more seriously than they take my little antarctic hole in the wall. May you be blessed with many guanacos. Commandante Lemming (talk) 18:28, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, that must have been Scraw. I just came back and my edits were gone. CourageousLife (talk) 01:46, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Maps of Alaska
I like to use Inkscape for my flags and maps, but the kinds of maps like the ones I recently uploaded were made from scratch. I find base maps on Google and work from there. Hope this helps out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 19:00, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * It has worked for me for years. All you really have to do is find a base map and manually draw the coastline and borders (I find using the mouse can give the coastline a realistic look). You can then combine those lines together to color it. It's pretty simple, but practice makes perfect. I really should consider making a tutorial on how I make maps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:01, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

No promises, but that has been something I have been considering for quite a while now. I wish you luck on your map making. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:05, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, that's why I left too. Thanks for that help with the oil bit, if you catch my drift. Don't want to alert the BP.

23:06, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

You playing? Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:46, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I was a bit busy. Ready now, lets go. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:25, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I have begun our plans for a unified language. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:42, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

I plan on having interest grow in proper Armahic in my universities. From there, the mercantile class will think about creating an easier link with Orissa's best ally and from there diplomats followed by intellectual folk (roughly 20-30 years time) will converge with their Ethiopian counter parts and the task to create this unified language will begin. I would give it like five years in game to be on the safe side lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:38, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

PS, 3,000th edit was on my talk page. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:39, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Nice politcal compass and beliefs - good to see someone in such an (elite) minority. Hopefully you get what I mean ;).

76.186.66.246 09:26, August 21, 2013 (UTC)deConteville

Why thank you. I feel as if I'm in a sea of sharks. I'm like one of two or three conservatives on the wikia (and another wikia full of liberals). Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:15, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Britain (PMII)
I'm not going to rage against this ludicrously implausible event. I'm just going to state that they will rebel eventually. It's not that easy to exterminate ethnicities, so the Welsh are going to be a problem for you for years to come. Can you explain, in character, what made Eithiopia pissed off enough to invade Great Brython? Yank 17:41, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Viva, I had to go away from chat and the computer got shut down, so I couldn't continue the Israeli discussion. Well, hopefully I'll see you in chat today too. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 06:51, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Islam in Korea
Yes, that is the one that inspired my forum post about Islamic Korea. That is a very rare idea, you cannot even find the similar ones in any Althist websites. Although it seems has a little plausibility, but an Islamic Korea can butterflying the world history.

And, thank you very much for your congratulations. I will work harder as a TSPTF member. :)

FirstStooge (talk) 09:24, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
Hey, just got back and saw what happened in PMII. I'm going to watch and see who's holding what, but I'm going to make some moves to secure the Welsh Royal Family and Apostolic Prime Bishop if posssible. Also I have no clue who holds what but do you have any clue who's holding Wales' South American Colonies at the end of this? Lastly -I'd like to talk about keeping your British territories in the Apostolic Church rather than forcing conversion. That would be very good for me, and I could help you settle down the natives a bit. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:31, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Britain is mine though? Otherwise Scraw does not get West Africa. He cannot have both. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:18, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

I don't care man. Take your Britain or give it to Imp, I don't care anymore.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  20:25, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Damn, quick response. I will.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  20:27, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. What's yours is yours. I'm just hyped waiting to see our new glorious gains on the 1815 map.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  20:33, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Good luck holding it - it's within the rules so you have a case in the event of a mod attack, and remember there is a mod-in-chief. I usually address rules concerns to Collie because the response is authoritative in the case of a dispute. As for the other stuff - this is a social game as much as a strategy game. It's almost as much about reading the other players as it is about the map. Oh well, I like reality TV anyway, so if I have to play online "Survivor", so be it :-P Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:45, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Oh - and I talked Scraw into keeping his portion of Britain in the Apostolic Church, so if you keep yours, we have a stable world religion with four voting members rotating leadership (Me, your Britain, Kogasa's Tojiko, and Scraw's Wales). I told Scraw I'd back a Welsh candidate when my Prime Bishop dies (this year) in order to seal the deal, and Kogasa wants the next one after that, but I think we can complete the rotation with you taking it after that and giving it back to me (granted it would be at least a four-way vote so no guarantees). That and I'm going to institute a ten year term limit on the Prime Bishop before the current one dies. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:00, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

I got the firepower. Guess who's coming to the party, Italia XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 06:47, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Chat Viva please. Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:42, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for lack of commentary on the war - why does this garbage always happen while I'm away (I go on vacation and Wales gets blown up, I take a day for Rosh Hashanah and they go after Ethiopia). The level of ASB wars in this game is so annoying that I'm thinking that if there's ever a PM3 they're going to need a rule that you can only start three wars per century or something. I usually just duck and cover during these things becasue I suck at math and the sides cheange too rapidly - but it looks like you're doing OK. I just want it to end, seeing as my game is 100% cultural and lacks a military component. Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:33, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth
Hello,

You signed on as Cuba in the Battle for Earth Strikes Back! Map game. As you may be aware, the game never started due to multiple circumstances. In order to meet everyone's needs, the game was delayed until September. I am putting the finishing touches on the page and the last thing to do is create the map for Earth. To do so, I need to know who's active and who isn't. If you are active, please notify me by Wednesday, September 11 or your nation will be opened up for a new player. Thank you for your patience. CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 19:59, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Thought Bubble
Random thought, once this war is done, do you want me to start sending you a bunch of Penguin Lillies to grow in Brythonic greenhouses? They  might be a good idea in holding the territory, or at least screwing with any rebels. Actually, you should already have a good number of them in Ireland, I assume they weren't totally eradicated by Rex'  "War on the Lily". Commandante Lemming (talk) 13:53, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

OK - you start the greenhouse experiement in Ireland and I will "kindly" send you more in exchange for the greenhouse technology that will allow me to grow them in warmer areas. Make sure the greenhouses are in Brittany due to the land borders. Still not sure if anyone will go along with the gag, but worth a shot. Commandante Lemming (talk) 17:45, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Works for me :-) Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:00, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

From what I can see, Andrew isn't willing to give you England. Germanica is happy to negotiate a ceasefire with Ethiopia that includes the surrendering of Wales into Ethiopian hands.

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OK.

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Never quite cleared this up--are you actually accepting the ceasefire with me or not?

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Ah, ok. So are you going to get Ws in the algorithm?

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No, it doesn't spread.it's like what happens with me.Aragon has yellow color on the industrialization chart, but this doesn't apply to Portugal, even if Portugal is their suzerain.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:03, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Chat please? Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:10, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Chat please. I've only got 5 mins. Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:17, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

France
Could you join my side of the Coalition, please. I still have a chance to win this. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:08, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Can I see you on chat next time you get the chance? CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 01:17, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Could perhaps give me some Military supplies. or MV Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:23, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

stuff
Hey Viva - notihing important just wanted to pick your brain about PMII. Game is starting to get a little stale on the Selk'nam front and with all the wars and wars of recrimination I feel like the game is retreating in a Eurocentric direction or at least a Eurasia-centric direction - with the rest of the world (bar Ethiopia and Orissa) pretty much being ignored. Trying to figure out a way to cause a stir that will help break the war cycle and force some attention onto other regions (and force culture and environment back onto the agenda rather than military) - don't have any ideas yet,  but thought I would put it out there as a brainstorming subject that you might be interested in. I'm not going to do anything that gets me blown off the map but I'm happy to be a little more agitative - I'm planning some big changes in the Haruwin anyway and it's not an accident that I just introduced a leader names Icarus :-)  Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:08, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Map
Well, I had found the basemap on the internet. From there, I edited it to make it into what I desired. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:42, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Would you like the base map? :D [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:46, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, this should be it. Hope it works out for you. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:04, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

No problem! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:15, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that does seem to be the case - it just gets a little boring for those of use who are in neither Europe nor North America, and the actually "Alt History" aspect is waning a bit. I think there might be room for a bit of agitation in the Southern Hemisphere if we got a four or five people in on it (Say Me, You, Imp, maybe Kogasa, Rex would probably be game). One idea I thought of would be to introduce a fast-growing new religion that messes everyone up (something that looks like Bahai'ism or Rastafarianism - but with more Zealotry and less peace - maybe even a doomsday cult. The 1800s was prime time for that sort of thing OTL - Mormonism, Baha'ism, Adventism, Christian Science). Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:17, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

That's fair especially for you as a major power (as a sidenote I think PM3 should have regional moderators and no one should be able to mod their own continent, so no god-modding or at leaset incentive for the mods to be mean to eachother - may suggest that). Anyway, I think Imp is interested in helping me on my religion projhect to destabilize South America, so I will work through him. I'm thinking big on this one because I want to give the powers something they weren't expecting. ~Commander 02:22, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure about destablising. Causing chaos on the other hand, I'm all game. Erm, give me a couple years to get things set. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:56, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Dear Imperium Africanum:

The United Sultanate of the Dimurats and Mnagystau offer you an alliance valid for 20 years as well as a trade deal.

DS|The Rainbow Machete 17:04, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Can you give me a map showing the names of your colonies, vassals and puppet states please? I plan on expanding them nicely. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:45, September 21, 2013 (UTC)



Here is mine, beucase I know it can get confusing. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:55, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much Viva. I did merge a lot of it in my first turn (and I am sorry if that is not what you wanted) but I think it would be more plausible doing so. Don't want Francinisation happening to good ol' Ethiopia. Yeah, just coined that term. Let's lead the nation to glory, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:09, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Why you asking me, its your decision! Change the name on the turn you post. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:10, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva. Just a head's up - I like your post lol. Small problem is that you forgot to post about the colony of Orissan Aprika which expands by 18150km. the vassal next to it also expands by 15000km. You also have control of New Oman, the war finished in 1831. I will be making an offer to buy it off the Orissans, but I will offer you 40% gold extraction if you sale New Oman. I'll also sell former Chinese Zululand too. Thanks! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:52, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have offered to buy New Oman. Respond in game (just as planned :P)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:08, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * The United Sultanate graciously accepts the lands you have offered. The Sultanate will forever be your ally.

DS|The Rainbow Machete 11:23, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva - not sure what you and Imp are up to but I was working with Imp on a new religion to blow out of his (now your) South American clonies. Would you be interested in continuing that project? We were looking at some sort of Christian-Hindu-Native-Shinto fusion that ends up looking like a more militant version of Baha'ism (messiah-figured says all religions are equally true and that he is the final prophet of all of them). I'm willing to help but I need to move while my Prime Minister Icarus is still in power (before 1840 - althought I can casue events to keep him around if needed) Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:39, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

OK - well if you want to write it feel free. Otherwise I'll write a draft and send it to you and you can make changes around the edges before posting (I think that's legal). I don't think it's a good idea for this to blow out of the Selk'nam area - firstly because people ignore met, and secondly because I'm poorly located, and lastly because I want to execute this without either of us getting totally jacked up. However, I do plan on sheltering the sect after You run them out of your area, allowing them to take over part of my Northern areas, and providing them an "incubator" safe from angry Orissans (where they retrench and then blow back into your territory and then north into other people's colonies). Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:58, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

No worries - and like I said if you want me to do some writing on this to help out I can - it was my idea after all, it's just better to start it outside my territories. We should come up with something wacky to call it. Maybe have the messiah figure be calle A'asab or or something (I'm thinking it would be hilarious to work the letter-sequence "ASB" into the title of this thing. Maybe bats should have symbolism to them :-P ) Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:12, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Viva! Support me in BFE and I'll let you have Sol, and, say, the rest of the Galaxy? Just post on my talkpage, and you'll have the details.

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 22:31, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, well, basically, I currently need to fight off the Grand Coalition. After that, well, Crim and I are considering an alliance. The three of us would basically form the most powerful alliance in BFE. The Praetorians are actually faking their war with us. You can tell this by quick checks onto Local's and Crim's talkpages, as well as mine. So a four-way allaince with 3 Tier-3 nations and a Tier-4...

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 23:21, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

PMII: The dawn of A'Asabism
Hey Viva, wrote a rough draft of crazy new religious stuff. Came up with an origin myth but nothing military in terms of progress. Let me know if you like it or want to re-work it, and whether you had different ideas. How do you think it should spread?

''In the far Northern regions of Patagonshina, bordering the lawless jungle, the educated son of a tribal elder becomes disillusioned with the succession of colonists who have occupied his land and the various foreign beliefs they have enforced - Catholicism, Apostolicism, and now Hinduism. The lad, named Sapa Huacan, fasts and flagelates himself in the wilderness, begging the heavens to show him whether any of these religions are the true path, or whether he should follow traditional native religion.''

''After three months in the desert, an emaciated and dazed Sapa Huacan wanders back into his home village. The locals are concerned for his health, but he refuses water and immediately begins yelling in the town square, "I have found enlightenment! Hear the word of the true divinity!"''

Many of the townspeople think he has gone mad, but he continues, "I beat myself for ninety days, and on the eighty-seventh day, satisfied with my penitence, the angel of the true divinity appeared to me in the form of a bat! At first I thought I had gone mad, but for three day the bat taught me the history of all religions, and I required neither food nor drink nor sleep, yet was refreshed. I tell you today that all religions serve the same god, Hindu and Atlantian and Christian, yet have become divided by an evil spirits which the angels call "the grasshoppers". This grasshoppers have devoured the good fields of our minds and made us fight one another, not realizing that we all once served the same spirit. This is why the angel came as a bat, because as bats eat grasshoppers, so we must purge these spirit grasshoppers from our minds and unite ourselves!"

''Sapa Huacan goes on for three hours illuminating the village, and some become convinced by his knowledge. Finally he concludes, "All the prophets have come in succession but have been divided - Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Mohammed, and St. Maughold of Konip, but I have been called as the last prophet to united the divided strands and defeat the grasshoppers - and have been given a new name - Sapa Huacan is no more, his life-force has merged with the divinity, and this body will now be known by the mystical word by which the lost ancients warded off the grasshopper spirits! This body shall be know as A'Asab!''

Commandante Lemming (talk) 03:25, September 25, 2013 (UTC) Thanks! :-) Didn't take long actually - I've done a lot of writing, some professionally, so stuff like that flows pretty easy. Pretty much I just smashed together Buddhism, Baha'ism, and Mormonism and threw in some garbage about grasshoppers.  Commandante Lemming ( talk ) 04:19, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

LOL I WISH I were a professional writier - at the moment I'm a profssional video/sound guy for lectures,  but I do some moonlighting as a paid blogger and have done a ton of blog work in the past (mostly unpaid but some paid) Commandante Lemming (talk) 12:44, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Can you make it onto chat? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:25, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Viva, I had to go. You free currently? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:31, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

There is a distinct possibilty that we will have a 4 way war here, with Scraw and the Grand Alliance as one of our enemies.

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 21:04, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind the above! Local and Crim have signed on. The Grand Alliance is conflicted and the Coalition is now basically totally underpowered. Now is the time... for the rise of the... we need a name.

Viva, considering we haven't been able to talk on chat yet, mobilise Rajputana. I hope I can talk to you tomorrow. Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:12, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

5 mins, literally. Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:25, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

You need to post so. We need to elim the Meredians, fast, so the GA will have to come in the war by themselves. Attack them!!

Names eh? Let's stick with the Grand tradition. How does the "Grand Forces" or "Grand Compact" sound?

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Hey - just figured I'd see what time frame you have in mind for that event. I'm trying to keep my own story mildly palusible which means my despotic atheist regime is going to have to collapse in a few years (about five), so that's a good window for me. Granted, I'm going to maintain some vestiges of that regime once it's expelled, but it's going to make the expansion harder. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:19, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I figured you hgad offline business. I'm going to let my militarist idiot keep one of the colonies after he gets bounceed so A'asab will still have support from a Selk'nam nation and the ability to retain a following. Good luck with offline issues. Commandante Lemming (talk) 18:52, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Viva La Revolution
Hey Viva, I don't know if you were a fan of the Viva La Revolution map games but as you played as vietnam in AP's version i thought you may be interested on this. Interested? If you are feel free to join as any nation.Sine dei gloriem (talk) 15:32, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Just a note
Hey Viva. I was just in the middle of posting for Ethiopia. Here is what I was going to post:

If you find anything you would like to incorporate into your present post please do so! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:01, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * In the Imperium Africana, Sankala continues to gain prominence and begins to become the main language of the Imperium. Most major shops have their signs in Sankala and this helps most of the people in the nation understand the language. The Imperium continues its railroad projects and many people travel all around the nation for work. Consolidation of the various intergrated lands finally finishes after such a long period of work to unite the regions into one. The propaganda continues, fueling Ethiopian rage and helping its people to work harder and better for the nation. The army is presented with new rifles produced. Some of the gattling guns are recieved from the United Maharajya with the blueprints. The Axumite engineers tear apart the gattling guns anyway to see how they work and then put them back together. They are amazed at the weapon and authorise its production. The navy continues to work with the Orissan navy multiple naval exercises take place. Ethiopia begins the construction of its own "superdock" and begins to plan out its own "battleships". In Bado, the process of establishing thriving towns and villages continues. The tribal people learn how to communicate by writing in Sankala, as the Ethiopians continue to implement it in schools and teach the Bado how to write with it. In Northern Antillia, colonists from Wädäb continue to co-operate with the Inuit, providing them medicine and new goods and continue to teach the Inuit a script to be able to write their language. A lot of the Inuit learn it and the colonists encourage the people of the Inuit to inhabit permanent settlements to help gain some form of governence. Baridi sees many small outposts constructed and business opportunists head to the lands to be able to get new furs and wood. The propaganda continues to encourage different tribes to co-operate and intermarry. A new generation of children from parents who are moving past social taboos are growing up and beginning to make their own choices in life. The large amount of people exchanged between Orissa and Ethiopia continues. Many mixed marriages take place due to this but many families still taboo marrying an Orissan. Reservoirs have helped make many areas into lush savannas and areas which did not have enough water can now support crops. Mali sees growth and the "Ethiopianising" campaign continues at full speed. Hospitals and other basic services like schools are developed. Mali continues to vassalise the states its west to gain coastal access to other areas of Ethiopian trade. Kenya sees a huge program to integrate the new land into the nation and people are advised to move south and farm the land. Kenya continues to see a greater immigration boom into the nation as many head into the nation. Many parts of the nation begin to see urban development and railroads begin to develop in the nation. However, in a far off corner of the Imperium, the Atlantian colony begins to face more problems due to A'Asab. More troops have to be sent to help maintain order. The idea of "faceism" begins to expand in Ethiopia, which has been passed off through some of the more militant members of A'Asabism.
 * Wärqama is expanded by 18,000 km, focusing its expansion north. Wädäb expands by 16,000 km inland, trying to get to the Northern Lakes. Dähnnät stops expansion and begins to develop its lands - encouraging the creation of more towns inland. Nyamwezi is expanded by 15,000 km southward. Kenya expands the colony of Taimaini by 8000 km on the coasts. Baridi expands by 15,000 km as the company brings in its workers to work the land and help make a profit out of this experimental endeavour. The colony of Buruk is expanded by 2000 km as well. Dafur expands 20,000 km westward and Kitara expands 15,000 km northward. Oyo and Yuroboland also expand by 15,000 km east and west respectively into uncivilised lands. New Oman expands 15,000 km inward, with the gold helping pay off various Ethiopian debts around the world and help create a boom. The military, economy and infrastructure of all territories are expanded. Road links are soon upgraded while a few railroads are built too.

I was also going to sell Baruk to China becasue sadly that colony does not have hope of meeting up with Wahab anymore. This would allow the redirection of expansion to other colonies instead. You might be interested in considering this move maybe? :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:03, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

I thank thee. Which colony should I redirect the extra expansion to? Taimaini? Plus, i was wondering when we could kill of the Ethiopian Emperor and finally enter a Personal (not full cause other people would whine) Union. So yeah, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:09, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

I have edited all I need to. The rest is when you post it! I have allocated the extra 2000km to Taimaini. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:39, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, no problem. Just make sure you take atleast 6-7 years to build your superdock - I took something like ten - making it the largest in the world. Was a drain on resources, but hey I have to spend that money lol. I am building battleships and you should get your first one within a year. Then you can build your own once your construction dock is complete. Even Italia does not have battleships currently. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:38, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

A LOT of manpower lol. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:03, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

TSPTF
Need to accept that nom, Viva.

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_History:Request_for_user_rights#Vivaporius

The Mighty Guns is too Glorious (or lazy) to go to source mode and type out his real sig <font color="#000000">(Dammit, Guns!)  23:11, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Viva, I think Edison should be Indian because it would make competition more interesting. As in he will devlop direct current - or factories or whatever lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:30, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Viva I thought I just created the coal based power station this turn. When have you had it since? Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:08, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

I see. Perhaps we could have the first one developed in Orissa then we send you the specs and you build all the powerplants? Could that work? It is just that this was one of Edison's best inventions. :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:51, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

I should be available for until at least 10 EST tonight. CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 01:08, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I was late, I had other commitments. How did it go? CourageousLife (talk) 03:56, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

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 * I saw the map. It looks okay to me, as long as everyone commits to these border claims, I have no problems. CourageousLife (talk) 03:59, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

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New Afrika
Way, way, way too big lol. You need to keep it on the west coast, just make the nation larger (moderately) there. This is way too big, and half of that territory is under the British Empire, so it would not be logical to have the nation there. I'll get the map of what I think the nation should have soon. :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:08, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Something more like this should do fine. I would take it this nation will do everything in the power to make sure they get like unequally treated French blacks too? As well as this, I think they would probably look to remove all tribal differences and incorporate all the blacks into an equal society maybe? But yeah, what do you think about the map? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:15, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I guess so. Plus, the Africans will not like the Nazis at all, so that might provide you with a large number of Blacks too. Just make sure they are in the British camp, otherwise they will not be safe all alone. Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:44, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Allied pretty much lol. Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:51, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

That can still happen. I think keep them aligned rather than allied if that would be better for the nation lol. :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 00:15, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

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No email?
I haven' received any emails from althist in the last two days.

Is there a problem?

EoGuy (talk) 22:23, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Cour
As a favour to me- vote for him? We need a supermajority of TSPTF members, but only have a majority.

19:07, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

And my record remains impeccable! Thank you indeed, Viva!

22:34, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Orthographic Map
Yeah... sorry about that. Been meaning to respond to you, but I've been pretty busy. I'm more than happy to answer your question, though I'm not too sure how to explain it. For this particular map, I used Celestia (a space simulating program) and Inkscape (a vector program). I already had a map of Venus, and I added to the space program (which showed it a s a globe). I then manually outlined the continents with Inkscape and added it to one of the many orthographic maps from Wikipedia. That's the gist of it, but how to use those programs is a completely different topic. I've stated on several occasions that I would like to make a tutorial on how I make maps, but I give no promises as to when (let alone if) I plan on doing this.

I do apologize if this wasn't the answer you were looking for. I do appreciate you like my work, and I thank you for this. -- 23:48, November 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad I could help out. If you need any future help, I will always be here. -- 04:37, November 25, 2013 (UTC)



Glad to hear you are liking Celestia. Though to be fair, I've had many years of experience in coding for this program. In fact, all you have to do is change the file names and you can put whatever you want on those planets (you don't always have to have it at Earth). In fact, I'm working on a mod which will show Venus as a habitable planet with a moon. Also (if you really want to explore the program), check out the many extrasolar planets which should already be coded into the program (very interesting). Also (if you don't mind me asking), what layout are you using? Did you make that? -- 17:32, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well it's been a while since I've used it (so I'm a bit rusty). As for adding stuff to the program, it's pretty easy to do. In the main folder there should be a folder marked "extras." You can add stuff to this and it will be added to the program (without changing the already existing code). As for adding a planet or moon, the easiest way for me to explain it is to go to the folder marked "data" and find the file "solarsys." Copy it (so not to permanently alter anything) and put it in the "extras" folder. You should be able to open the file with any text editor, and you can see the code (it includes all the planets and some of the moons). All the parameters are marked so you can see the planetary details (orbit, size, location, you know). The Moon should be labeled for easy access. Just copy the code and you can alter it to what you want.


 * Hope this helps out (I such as explaining things). -- 02:10, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. If you're looking for textures, just Google for them (there's plenty out there). Also check out this site, full of textures and mods to explore. -- 02:37, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

AvA
Come back! Italy is basically invading you! If you declare war, then Britain and France will support you. But I can't declare war for you!

23:07, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Human History Experiment
I'd like to invite you to my new Map Game, Human History Experiment. It takes place on an unknown landmass, and if it can stay plausible will eventually move through 6000 years of human history.Wegscuba (talk) 02:58, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for sticking up for me on the talk page - although  actually want the Praetorate (a tiny island in the Atlantic) to get blown out of the water by the Germans and the Portuguese.

Coincidentally, the Praetorate leadership is going to escapa and form an underground terrorist network for the next few years. Since the leader Eris is a disillusioned member of the Selk'nam royal family, her modus operandi is to attakc the nations she blames for polluting the blood of the House of Tuch'huelpe....which actually puts Imperium Africana next on the target list. That - and I've only had the terrorists go after friendly players who will understand that this is not a declaration of war by the Selk'nam.

So, there may be a terrorist attack somewher in your empire after the war finishes and Eris re-emerges. There's going to be a big manhunt (womanhunt?) and I'm hoping for a big multi-national trial like Nuremburg once she's captured in about 7 years. Commandante Lemming (talk) 14:57, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Map Request
Of course. Message me the full details. Mscoree (talk) 19:57, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, also what style are you looking for? SVG or PNG? Orthographic/locator map or flat area map? Mscoree (talk) 20:25, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

So you want the northern border to be mostly straight, and you want the city of Nouakchott to be highlighted? Mscoree (talk) 20:24, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Might want to meet us on chat. Yank has a few questions about your nation. Mscoree (talk) 20:42, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Color question
Are you using the "paint can tool" to fill in areas? I'd recommend staying away from that tool, as it really doesn't work. What I do is make paths within paths. When you outline an area, I also separately outline the specific area I want a specific color. As a comparison, imagine outlining the entire US (which would be grey), then separately outlining New York (which would be ping). That's what I've done here.

The best technique I'd suggest is to copy the larger area (say a continent), remove the little bit of coastline (or the outline of the continent) that isn't part of your area, than add the land border. Than all you need to do is add the "fill" (or color) and that's pretty much it. I can try and re-explain it if this makes no sense. -- 06:40, December 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad I could help. If you need any more help, I'm all ears. -- 17:31, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Calm
So you are just going to give up? Let everything you have rebuild from the ground up go into flames? Now listen to me - this is the best chance to muck about with your empire - create new and illogical things, the time to test out those tanks you are so fond of. Who knows, you might "accidentally" leave a couple for the rebels to find who try to reproduce the tanks but in doing so use up all their infrastructural base and make you job of conquering them easier, as well as provide the oppurtunity to have tank vs tank battles.

The rebellion begun? Root out all those supporting it and destroy it. I might have to bring forward the plan of the West Aprikan Federation too. I was going to ask you about it - I plan to create a union of those Mahgrebi states and Mali. It would become pretty powerful, and allow for us to unite the region better. You up for it? And for the last time, you are not quitting. Get back to the game, and go type up a long post. There is still huge work to be done with our empires. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:58, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

No problem, and what do you think of the West Aprika Fed idea? All of them speak Sankala I am pretty sure and Chaudaism will begin to spread soon enough. :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:06, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

True. But I think its time you went Socialist. All the right-wing government of Ethiopia is inspring currently is unrest and uprisings. It'll make more sense to do so. I also think you should stop the hate education - might cause more problems than it solves! :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:26, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

I swear you agreed we were going Socialist. And being socialist, not equalist, we can have no problems with having an Emperor. I have the Maharaja still there. And I am confused - I thought the Emperor/Maharaja was the same man - son of the Ethiopian Emperor and the Orissan Maharani. And he died and his son is now ruler in the Maharajya, building "emotional" links with the Japanese crown-princess, as I wrote in my posts. Thoughts? :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:03, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

I didn't call it the Union of the Star for nothing. Star = Socialist Unity, Union = you know, your run o' the mill union. It will be cool and an interesting set of empires which will eventually become a Commonwealth of the former colonies and their mother colonies. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:17, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

I guess I can have your support in the bid to launch the Second World War seeing the deteriorating situation between nations due to the Russian Civil War? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:52, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Viva's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Unified Vespian Directorate/Vespia
 * Founding year: 2152
 * Capital: Corvus City, Hesperus, Vesperia system
 * Nation symbol: Black crescent on white border with a black background
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 756 systems
 * Estimated population: 1.248 trillion
 * Government: Totalitarian dictatorship
 * Current leader: Director-General Varus ...
 * Currency: Vespian aurum
 * Military name: Vespian Security Forces
 * Military size: 52.416 billion
 * Official language(s): Latin
 * Other language(s): English
 * Preferred empire color: Black
 * How is the leader chosen?: Elected by Vespian High Command
 * How unified is the country?: Extremely unified
 * How tolerant are the people?: Very intolerant, xenophobic and isolationist
 * What kind of economy is there?: Largely capitalist economy with trance elements of command economy
 * How does the army work?: Military service is voluntary though the government prefers to select its soldiers from birth, or create them in military-owned breeding centers. Children born to female soldiers in active duty are trained by the military to serve out their early lives within the VSF.
 * What's the literacy level?: 100%
 * What's the overall technology?: High-tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: The Great Truths of the Founder
 * What's the most admired class?: Military officers
 * What's the lowest class?: Workers, laborers, and foreigners
 * How are women treated?: Relatively the same as men, though they are expected to be obedient to their male counterparts.
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: A private affair that is only between one man and one woman. Sex is only to take place after marriage.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: External pressure from the League of Civilized Planets, as well as mounting issues with the Bharati and Fx governments.

Andrew's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: The 3rd Great and Bountiful Human Empire of Amaran/ Empire of Amaran
 * Founding year: <2200
 * Capital: Arcadea, Cerulea, Patronis System
 * Nation symbol:Red flag with two Golden Suns with Sun burst
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 260
 * Estimated population: 780 Billion
 * Government: Federated Communist Republic
 * Current leader: Chairman Johannes Moriing
 * Military name: The Red Fleet
 * Military size: 480 Billion
 * Official language(s): Zark'aan, Emesi
 * Other language(s): English
 * Preferred empire color: Red
 * How is the leader chosen?: Politburo Election
 * How unified is the country?: Very, the nation operates under a very tight, controlled environment
 * How tolerant are the people?: As tolerant as the government allows, generally speaking, pretty accomidating, unless you are a foreigner, who are usually ostrasized and treated as a second class citizens.
 * What kind of economy is there?: Mixed Economy
 * How does the army work?: Panel of General, appointed by the Amaran High Command
 * What's the literacy level?: 97%
 * What's the overall technology?High Tech, technology is the second largest industry behind the military
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: They hold the Chairman at almost God-Like status, the older population still worships "The Old Ones"
 * What's the most admired class?: The Warrior Class, followed Engineering
 * What's the lowest class?: Foreigners followed by the Proletariat
 * How are women treated?: As eqauls. All people, regardless of sex or orientation are required to serve in the military for at least 4 years.
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Generall regarded as sacred. Promsiquous sex is forbidden
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: The most pressing social issue is the massive amount of refugees flooding in from the Protean Empire, due to a mssive civil war, many people view them as inferior and a burden on society.
 * Backstory for empire:

If you need more information be my guest, Also if I may inquire, what is this for? Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 04:04, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

I would love to contribute. I can focus on providing national backstory'sTrust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 04:16, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

What did you think about my list?Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 04:16, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Scraw's Fact Sheet
Ah. Indeed. No worries, I am more than happy to help you! :D 04:29, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Empire name: Greater Fx Stellar Dominions
 * Founding year: 2194
 * Capital (City, World): Kratsk, Detormn
 * Nation symbol: A silver circle with a white band stretching across it (like the Brazilian thing) on a black shield
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 127
 * Estimated population: 672 billion
 * Government: constitutional monarchy
 * Current leader: Sun King Geton X of the Second Dominion (feel free to change the dominion number based on how many centuries have passed from 2194) (royal), Minister Misehof Stebelbern Stebelon of the Sixth Congress (new Congress every ten years, so you can change sixth based on how many decades since 2194)
 * Currency: Fxish Negod
 * Military name: Great Fx Forces
 * Military size: 1 billion during peace time, as much as necessary during war time
 * Official language(s): Fxish Standard
 * Other language(s): Konerish, Firtofish, Tankoldish
 * Preferred empire color: Black or blue
 * How is the leader chosen?: The Sun King is the oldest child of the last emperor. However, the royal house is changed every 100 years to prevent any one family from getting too comfortable and trying to seize actual power. A new Congress is democratically elected every 10 years, and the Minister is one person who was in the last Congress.
 * How unified is the country?: Mostly unified, some fringe rebel groups here and there from recent conquests.
 * How tolerant are the people?: Pretty tolerant.
 * What kind of economy is there?: err, not sure. something without classes but still not communist
 * How does the army work?: The army is set at a permanent one billion people at any given time, with nine hundred million volunteers and 100 conscripts
 * What's the literacy level?: 99%
 * What's the overall technology?: <Low-tech or high-tech>
 * What do the people worship or invoke?:
 * What's the most admired class?: No classes
 * What's the lowest class?: No classes
 * How are women treated?: Equally
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: The more the merrier.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?:

Feudal's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: <Federation of Saltus/Saltus>
 * Founding year:
 * Capital (New Harmony, Saltus):
 * Nation symbol: <A Field of Dark Red with 12 gold stars in a cirlce all symbolizing a certain uphelp facet of Society with Black bars running both top and Bottom>
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems:
 * Estimated population: <835 Billion>
 * Government: Constitutional Republican Federation
 * Current leader: <President> <Athrun Clyne>
 * Currency: Federal Dollar
 * Military name: Federal Armed Forces
 * Military size: 33 Billion
 * Official language(s): English.
 * Other language(s): French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, (Virtually all remaining human languages)
 * Preferred empire color: Dark/Blood Red
 * How is the leader chosen?: Elections for most positions.
 * How unified is the country?: Extremely Unified, Civil rights and a large cultural unity Permeate the Society.
 * How tolerant are the people?: Moderately Tolerant, while extreme Purists when it comes to inhabitants of their planets (no aliens in large numbers) they are still capable of tolerance of foreign cultures and welcome all with open arms.
 * What kind of economy is there?: Mixed Economy
 * How does the army work?: The Military has a structured heirarchy and can instantly communicate with all of its troops and leaders through Philotic connections and devices known as Ansibles. Along with this Faster than Light Travel is commonplace and the Fleet maintains a heavy presence with Drones being a heavier stance on the ground. The Ground forces employ singular modular commanders in a vehicle known as an ACU and many Drones linked to this ACU which can built factories and other structures (via Replication using Mass and Energy) The ACU and its pilot can then direct large armies of units against an opponent and is considered commonplace. It has largely replaced the need for Standard ground marines and has led to the Ground forces being only given some of the greatest strategic minds. They maintain the ability if authorized to upgrade their command module with the abiltiy to manufacture more and more high tech equipment up to and including experimental weaponry and Highly powerful and Quantum modified Nuclear weaponry. The Space fleets operate in orbit and the ships number in the millions. The Fleet maintains a more liberal policy with nuclear and other weapons due to their nature and are quite openly willing to decimate or obliterate those who oppose them. Using a combination of highly powerful and advanced kinetic and energy weaponry they maintain some of the most powerful warships in the galaxy.
 * What's the literacy level?: 96%
 * What's the overall technology?: <Extremely high-tech>
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: <None>
 * What's the most admired class?: Athletes. They are admired for their prowess in their preferred sport which many are new and old going back to the first semblances of Humanity years ago.
 * What's the lowest class?: Foreign born. They are very unlikely to get much of anywhere as immigrants due to the Saltan purist society.
 * How are women treated?: Equal, it was achieved long ago
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Liberal, Marriage is common but pre-marital sex is common especially with the risks of unwanted children and diseases being eradicated years before.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: The most pressing problem is the Federations overly involved military policies. While extremely effective it has proven to get extreme animosity between various other nations.

Yank's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: United Empire of Tizathee
 * Founding year: 2287
 * Captial: Washito, Disrumbya
 * Nation symbol: simplified form of the Presidential seal inside a five-point star
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 203
 * Estimated population: 370 Billion
 * Government: Federal Republic
 * Current leader: Prezidan Ronal Reega III (name adopted upon election papal style)
 * Currency:  Dolarr
 * Military name: Imperial Armada
 * Military size: Large
 * Official language(s): Tizatheean (corrupted English)
 * Other language(s): English
 * Preferred empire color: Naval Blue
 * How is the leader chosen?: Selection by Electoral Assembly made up of representatives from the systems
 * How unified is the country?: fanatically unified
 * How tolerant are the people?: Incredibly tolerant as long as loyalty is pledged to government, outsiders are distrusted
 * What kind of economy is there?: Mixed economy with heavily capitalist slant
 * How does the army work?: a somewhat misremebered version of the US Army
 * What's the literacy level?: 90%
 * What's the overall technology?: High Tech, as most comanies eagerly search for new technologies to profit on and to undermine the competition's profits
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: The US Presidents are deified with a complex pantheon based on their legacy
 * What's the most admired class?: the Politicians, the Soldiers and the Industrialists are all equally admired
 * What's the lowest class?: Workers
 * How are women treated?: Equals, because a few of the Presidents yet to come were women
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: No one cares as long as it stays behind closed doors
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Increasing illegal drug use amongst the Workers

If you need any more information just ask me Yank 04:49, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

The Tizatheean goverment is a corrupted form of the US government. I don't know exactly how it came to be. The name is a corruption of "My Country 'Tis of thee". The President is elected for life and is also the head of the religion, hence the similarities to the election of the Pope. Just thought a little background info was needed.Yank 04:58, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Where do I go to view the finished product? I love this, because you don't see much sci-fi here. Yank 05:25, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Cour's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Empire of Jomandra / Jomandris
 * Founding year: 2212
 * Capital: Ardell, Brisso
 * Nation symbol: Black Hawk on left, white dove on right, golden background.
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 112
 * Estimated population: 213 billion
 * Government: Constitutional Monarchy
 * Current leader: Prima Modus (Prime Minister) Chereich Ra
 * Currency: Jomandrian Coda
 * Military name: Imperial Defense
 * Military size: Large
 * Official language(s): Jomandran
 * Other language(s): Wylyaan, Ritrithin
 * Preferred empire color: Gold
 * How is the leader chosen?: Elected (Popular Vote, Parliamentary Vote, and Judicial Vote all represented as 1/3 of total vote)
 * How unified is the country?: Moderate
 * How tolerant are the people?: Moderate, tolerant-leaning
 * What kind of economy is there?: There is definately an economy...
 * How does the army work?: Mandatory draft from age 18-22
 * What's the literacy level?: High literacy
 * What's the overall technology?: Relatively low-tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Monotheistic deitiy in some regions, polytheistic regional religions elsewhere.
 * What's the most admired class?: Military-class
 * What's the lowest class?: Illiterate-class(es)
 * How are women treated?: Treated fairly, still subordinate
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Private and taboo affair
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Genetic purity

Mscoree's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Meridian Consul/Meridian
 * Founding year: 2180 (If I could I'd day earlier since they are supposed to be somewhat ancient)
 * Capital (City, World): Xerstalinus (City), Meridian (Continent), Monsmanu (Planet), Atlos (Star)
 * Nation symbol: The official coat of arms and symbol that appears on the flag consists of a white circle with a cross behind it.
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 300
 * Estimated population: 900 billion
 * Government: Unitary Parliamentary constitutional federal monarchy-based, feudal meritocracy
 * Current leader: King Xemis IV
 * Currency: Cosnovi
 * Military name: Meridian Armed Forces (including Starfleet)
 * Military size: 50 - 200 Billion
 * Official language(s): Meridian (including Classical, Ecclesiastical, Reformed, and Lower dialects).
 * Other language(s): Rhed, Lohad, and others
 * Preferred empire color: Dark Blue (see flag for color)
 * How is the leader chosen?: The king is chosen through patrilineal primogeniture from the House of Xherlygh-Klask, descendents of Celulos I, and serves as the executive power of the nation, making some decisions for the entire nation. The governing body, known as the “Asenatu Ancen Grenasemblu” is composed of four representatives from each province, and two representatives from each territory. The assembly serves as the legislative power of the nation, drafting laws and regulations, and making decisions of important matters. Within the legislative assembly there is also an organization known as the “Grisro Orden”, comprised of dozens of elders, scholars, inventors, historians, strategists, and representatives, elected for life. Once elected, an individual works within the order in secret, working to draft secret military plans, record history, regulate scientific discoveries and discussions, research technology, and trace back ancient history and religion. The order operates an extensive library and university within Xerstalinus that serves as the headquarters for the organization. Each province within the smaller, submissive kingdoms is divided into feudal counties, governed by local governors in charge over their towns and cities. Each feudal governor is in charge of recruiting citizens for the national military, collecting taxes, and other local responsibilities.
 * How unified is the country?: Highly
 * How tolerant are the people?: Highly
 * What kind of economy is there?: Capitalism
 * How does the army work?: The land forces branch is organized into several armies, but planet and region. The largest single army of the land forces is the Army of Monsmanu, which consistes of 3,165,000 highly trained mechanized infantry units, and also includes the Royal Guard Division, which stations a guard regiment in Xerstalinus, Vitaverna, and a third in reserve. The space faring fleet, known as the Starfleet, is organized into several minor task groups and large fleets. The largest unit in the Meridian Consul Starfleet is known as the Grand Imperial Armada, which is commanded by a Grand Admiral of the Fleet, given the title of Granimperialis, or Mongranimperialis if commanding the prestigious Grand Imperial Armada of Monsmanu.
 * What's the literacy level?: Very high
 * What's the overall technology?: high tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: The religion of Meridian is known as Atmosian. All inhabitants of the nation follow this religion in one form or another, with multiple variants and sects in existence. The divisions of the Atmonsian church begins with individuals choosing to study certain religious leaders, and aside from that is no different from the rest of the religious sects. At the root of all Atmonsian is the belief in Atmons and his lineage. Atmonsian dates back thousands of years to before recorded history, with hundreds of ancient manuscripts still in existence from the beginning of written language on the subject. According to ancient texts of the early planetary inhabitants, Monsmanu was formed by Atmons, creator of the universe. Atmons is said to have had one brother, Nevenhaz, who would later betray him. Atmons’ lineage ends with Glusatmos, legendary deity who purged the planet of Monsmanu to punish the Gitans in the past. It is believed that Glusatmos still works on Monsmanu, serving out Atmons’ will across the globe. The philosophy of Celulos Unon Xherlygh, legendary prophet and warlord of the Meridian people, is known as Xherlyghian. Celulos preached for justice and fairness among all individuals, as well as respect toward all, even foes. Many who study Xherlyghian literature and philosophy begin a career in justice or law. Xherlygtian Atmonsians also focus on unity through constitutional means, and defense of rights. This sect is popular among many high ranking military officers and representatives, who train to defend their homeland in case of an invasion, to forever preserve Meridian justice. The Atmonsians hold the five purges of antiquity, also known as the apocalypses, as some of the most important events in history. It is believed that the Gitans were punished by a vengeful Atmons, and his agent, Glusatmos. Atmonsians strive to follow the principles of successful and prestigious individuals, hoping to prevent another purge from occurring. Because of this system of rewarding success, and following in the footsteps of certain leaders, the basis of Meridian’s local government is a meritocracy. Those who prove to be advanced in certain subjects become eligible for greater perks and responsibilities.
 * What's the most admired class?: Scholars, military leaders, politicans, engineers, and other successful occupations are usually most admired, creating the nation's meritocracy system.
 * What's the lowest class?: Manual workers
 * How are women treated?: Equally
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Marriage is common and encouraged. Most people have some what relaxed few on sex.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Couldn't think of anything at the moment..

Let me know what you think. Mscoree (talk) 15:40, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Imp's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Federation of Bharati Planets/Bharati Federation
 * Founding year: 2183
 * Capital (City, World): Amritarai, Amrit
 * Nation symbol: The Flag
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 436
 * Estimated population: 935 Billion
 * Government: Tecnhocratic Interstellar Federation
 * Current leader: President Deepak Prasad
 * Currency: Bharati Rupee
 * Military name: Federation Armed Forces
 * Military size: 41 Billion specially trained troops, lots of reservists. Most males and females have to go through "the draft" where they serve in the Armed Forces for a while before being honourably discharged.
 * Official language(s): Hindi
 * Other language(s): English(ish)
 * Preferred empire color: Saffron
 * How is the leader chosen?: After qualifying for position wanted, democratically elected
 * How unified is the country?: Very, democratic/technocratc ideals and patriotism is high
 * How tolerant are the people?: Quite tolerent - if you adopt their customs for social life you'll fit right in (like OTL Australia)
 * What kind of economy is there?: Socialist-backed Capitalism, but with Government controlled assets in many areas
 * How does the army work?: Command given through merit - government defense minister position only allowed to those having served. One major force which is usually divided into major sectors of the Federation. Not very burecratic and mainly controlled by those who have proven their merit.
 * What's the literacy level?: 98%
 * What's the overall technology?: high-tech (as I wanted to be originally lol)
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Chaudaism is believed in my many ;) but most of the nation is mainly agnostic or athiest.
 * What's the most admired class?: High tier Government Officials
 * What's the lowest class?: Not really evident,
 * How are women treated?: Equally, apart from when pregnant, when they are given special privillages
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Bah, have fun. Nice to marry too.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: When to intervene in matters concerning other powers
 * Background info on empire: Its a gentle giant. Don't really like to muck about with other nations' business unless necessity. They like to trade a lot too and they have a flair for engineering and the sciences, where they are making new discoveries all the time. Their army is not too big for its population but many are trained militarily when they serve "the draft".

Yea Viva, you pretty much know the rest, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:55, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Crim's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: United Systems of Orion/Orion
 * Founding year: 2195
 * Capital (City, World): Olympia Station, in orbit above Earth
 * Nation symbol: A circular star gate with eight large stars above the northern hemisphere of the gate. Smaller set of 40 stars in the middle of the gate
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 48 governed planetary systems with territories in 100 more systems
 * Estimated population: 100 billion
 * Government: Constitutional Democracy
 * Current leader: Alan Hawke
 * Currency: Orion Credit
 * Military name: Orion Militaries
 * Military size: Roughly 2 billion active members in the navy. 500 million in marines. *Total clones and androids awaiting activation number in the 4 billion throughout the systems.
 * Official language(s): None
 * Other language(s): English, Chinese, Indian, Transit (trade language combining English, Chinese, and Indian spoken mostly on the non sol-based planets or by the lower class)
 * Preferred empire color: Blue
 * How is the leader chosen?: Elections
 * How unified is the country?: Still working out the kinks
 * How tolerant are the people?: Surprisingly tolerant in the colonies. Prejudice against people from the Uranus and Neptune stations. Earth/Mars relations known for sourness.
 * What kind of economy is there?: Capitalist
 * How does the army work?: Most members of the army are clones or androids. Humans and tactical computers hold higher positions. Colony defense left to androids. Navy remains mostly human with some unmanned space fighters.
 * What's the literacy level?: 80%
 * What's the overall technology?: Relatively low-tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Largely atheist nation
 * What's the most admired class?: Corporation owners in the sol system (especially air and water distribution corporations)
 * What's the lowest class?: Clones and the homeless, especially in colonies built in airless environments
 * How are women treated?: No worse or better than men
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Lenient
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Sol-system prejudice against colonies.

Collie's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Eorðan rīce
 * Founding year: 2185
 * Capital (City, World): Wintanceastre, Eorðe (only nominally)
 * Nation symbol: white winged horse over a red backround
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 116
 * Estimated population: 270 billion
 * Government: Constitutional Monarchy with feudal elements
 * Current leader: Æthelflæd X
 * Currency: Pound
 * Military name: Heer
 * Military size: 30 billion
 * Official language(s): Ænglisc
 * Other language(s): Many other human languages
 * Preferred empire color: Blue
 * How is the leader chosen?: Hereditary sucession by absolute primogeniture
 * How unified is the country?: Moderately
 * How tolerant are the people?: Highly
 * What kind of economy is there?: Capitalism
 * How does the army work?: Optional military service.
 * What's the literacy level?: 96%
 * What's the overall technology?: Middle to high-tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Although most people believe in some kind of god, No official religion.
 * What's the most admired class?: ?
 * What's the lowest class?: ?
 * How are women treated?: Equally
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: No one cares as long as it stays behind closed doors
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: ?
 * Background info on empire: ?

I got no idea for a name.I am not familiar with this thing of controlling more than one planet, and i don't want to center the kingdom around one ethnicity.Got any ideas? I got a provisional name for now.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:31, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know.i got the rīce from "Westseaxna rīce", which is Kingdom of Wessex in Old English, so i think that rīce means "Kingdom" in Old English, but i am not a specialist on this, so i don't know whether it should be capitalized.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:59, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

MP's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Empire of the Stars/The Empire
 * Founding year: 2194
 * Capital (City, World): New Alexandria, Gaia
 * Nation symbol: Three spearheads, the center larger than the other two, pointed upwards against a yellow sunburst on a blue disc. The two side spearheads are pointed diagonally compared to the center.
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 350
 * Estimated population: 450 billion
 * Government: Federal Constitutional Monarchy
 * Current leader:    Archon Basileus Ares III Ptolemy-Ageads
 * Currency: Imperial Solidus
 * Military name: Imperial Armed Forces of the Empire of Stars
 * Military size: 40 billion
 * Official language(s): Greek
 * Other language(s): Coptic, Aramaic, Many other human languages
 * Preferred empire color: Blue
 * How is the leader chosen?: Hereditary sucession
 * How unified is the country?:The country is pretty unified due to the wise actions of the government and large military.
 * How tolerant are the people?: Mostly tolerant, but the people can be a little rough with non-native minorities.
 * What kind of economy is there?: Capitalism with occasional government interaction
 * How does the army work?: Optional military service, draft in times of war.
 * What's the literacy level?: 96%
 * What's the overall technology?: Middle to high-tech, lower on some frontier worlds.
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Mostly Christianity, but there are some significant neo-pagan sects.
 * What's the most admired class?: Royalty
 * What's the lowest class?: Non-Royalty. The only difference is that Royalty have titles.
 * How are women treated?: Equally, but there are roles that society feels each gender should focus on.
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Normally...
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Whether to remain neutral in galactic affairs or to get involved.

Guns' fact sheet

 * Empire name: United Republics of Vanor-al-Hubarj
 * Founding year: 2157
 * Capital (City, World): Ganawk, Vanor
 * Nation symbol:  A gold crown, flanked on each side by a tiger, while a red dragon sits upon it.
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 512
 * Estimated population: 789 billion
 * Government: Elective Monarchy
 * Current leader:  Poson Maldivi XI
 * Currency: Vanorian Divini
 * Military name: The Aggression (The offensive forces), The Passion (the defensive forces).
 * Military size: 80 billion
 * Official language(s): Vanorian
 * Other language(s):, Old English, Latin, Coptic, several others.
 * Preferred empire color: Black or White
 * How is the leader chosen?: Upon the death of the monarch, elected representatives from each Republic choose a new one.
 * How unified is the country?: The country is divided into 53 Republics, some larger and some smaller, each of which set their own taxes and so on. However, the military is the same for all the Republics, and the empire sets other laws.
 * How tolerant are the people?: Due to the wide range of races, extremely tolerant.
 * What kind of economy is there?: Depending on the Republic, between total Captalism and complete Socialism, though most are in the middle.
 * How does the army work?: All able-bodied people are required to go for at least 1 year of military service between the years 20 and 25. They have the option to stay on, or to leave; drafts occur in times of war.
 * What's the literacy level?: 100%
 * What's the overall technology?: Generally high-tech, though lesser in the smaller Republics.
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Hundreds of different religions, spread throughout the Republics.
 * What's the most admired class?: The Al-Kwarin, the second highest rank a Vanorian can achieve in life. Vanorian society is 'ranked', with minor differences throughout the Republics.
 * What's the lowest class?: Non-humans and Cyborgs are treated as second-class citizens and may not vote. (The Highest rank, technically, is the Al-Hubarj, which is unattainable.)
 * How are women treated?: Equally. Vanorian Society places no difference.
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Think Barney Stinson. And his brother. In one person.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Increasing usage of highly illicit drugs.
 * Background: Vanor-Al-Hubarj emerged from a period of violence between smaller settler's "Republics", each of whom formed their own alliances and waged a massive war lasting nearly 50 years. Finally, the war was ended by the Treaty of Vanor, the capital of the largest Republic, and the URVAH was formed.

Sky's fact sheet

 * Empire name: Democratic Sky Empire of Kro'Shun/Kro'Shun Empire
 * Founding year: 2213
 * Capital : Hakaron, Skosh
 * Nation symbol: A saxophone player on top of an crocodile on top of a shark armed with lasers.
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 93
 * Estimated population: 53 billion
 * Government: Democratic Monarchy
 * Current leader: His Royal Skyness Emperor Aldos III of House Rennir
 * Currency: Skosh Ducat
 * Military name: Imperial Army of the Sky
 * Military size: 10%
 * Official language(s): Kro'Shun, English, Croatian (All of which have changed over the years, but could be understood by a 2013 speaker). The Latinic script is primarily used, but in some cases the Simple Text is used in order to save space. It is a mathematically created script which is useful for fast reading and writing on computers.
 * Other language(s): German, Latin, Russian, Italian
 * Preferred empire color: Mid Spring Green
 * How is the leader chosen?: In a 3-month lasting election, the 13 candidates with most votes proceed to the next "round" in which they are chosen by a group of high-ranking senators. After they choose the winner, the other 12 usually attempt to become the next voters. A voter cannot compete himself. Although it is a democracy, the leader usually holds his place untill retirement, which lasts for decades. Only in rare cases does a new Emperor get chosen before the former one retires willingly.
 * How unified is the country?: Even though there are many nationalities, which don't share a unified sense of nationalism, the people are united through their tolerant and freewilled Silvertongue ideology.
 * How tolerant are the people?: Very tolerant.
 * What kind of economy is there?: Market economy, although some laws are more strict on borders with the Badlands
 * How does the army work?: Men must have military training after they finish their education. The training lasts for 1 year. The standing army must have atleast 5,3 million soldiers ready at all times. This is because there is always a threat from the Badlans, although there are plans in progress to conquer the Badlands.
 * What's the literacy level?: The literacy level is extremely high, around 97%. Most of the illiterate are immigrants from the Badlands.
 * What's the overall technology?: Hi-tech. Highly developed transportation and renewable energy systems. Seemingly faster than light speeds are achieved through the hyperspace, a version of space where distances are condensed, allowing a spaceship to travel 1 mile in Hyperspace and come back 30 miles from starting location in original space. Renewable energies use the stars and the gravitational energy of black holes to create power. Transport of energy is achieved through the hyperspace.
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Religious freedom. Although the Silvertongue philosophy is followed by most people.
 * What's the most admired class?: Scientists, due to their fame and contribution to society.
 * What's the lowest class?: Uneducated workers.
 * How are women treated?: Women are treated as equals, with no discrimination between genders, but women are still seen as the gentler gender.
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: People are very open. LGBT rights are fully supported and prostitution is legal. The usual age at which a person begins having sex at is 15, although teen pregnancies are extremely low and STD's are more or less rare, except for herpes.
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Constant raids by Badland Pirates. The government handles this problem since the founding of the Empire. Although it has expanded throughout its history, the deeper the Empire goes into the Badlands, the more dangerous it is. It is speculated that pirates create alliance in order to controll larger territories.
 * Backstory of the Empire: The Empire was founded by 13 great leaders in year 2213. All of these 13 were from different regions and had different reasons to escape their homeplantes/galaxies. Because of their differences, they were unified on the capital planet, Skosh. Through diplomacy and technological advantage, the Empire soon spread through the Badlands. By stealing from the pirates, the funds for projects were acquired. After 12 of the 13 original died, the last one was chosen Emperor by the people. Using his newfound power, he was able to make many alliance with small planet-states in the Badlands and spread his Empire even further. By the end of his reign, his Empire was simillar to its todays state. And even know, the Empire spreads and creates new tactics to battle the Pirates.

Fed's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Free Federation of Stellaland
 * Founding year: 2181
 * Capital (City, World): New Carthage, Trekkstar
 * Nation symbol: A scattering of white stars arranged by constellations on a blue field
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 134
 * Estimated population: 150 billion
 * Government: Confederated Monarchy
 * Current leader: Emperor of the Periphery Sergej XII
 * Currency: the Stellan Coronet
 * Military name: United Stellaland Forces
 * Military size: 5 billion or so
 * Official language(s): One for each state, Esperanto used for inter-communication
 * Other language(s): Thousands
 * Preferred empire color: Green
 * How is the leader chosen?: The Head of State inherits, the government is elected by the representative governments of each country
 * How unified is the country?: Little; as a confederated state, each planet has large amounts of autonomy
 * How tolerant are the people?: Highly so
 * What kind of economy is there?: almost completely free market
 * How does the army work?: One of the few centralised organisms; military service is optional
 * What's the literacy level?: Varies hugely; averages at 95%.
 * What's the overall technology?: Middish-tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: There's thousands of religions
 * What's the most admired class?: The monarchies and the wealthy
 * What's the lowest class?: The poor
 * How are women treated?: Equally to men
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Depends, generally quite liberal
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Lack of unity between the several planets has lately been a large problem for the Federation
 * Background info on empire: During the Great Exodus, a group of people who had previously been intent on saving as many ethnic minorities throughout the world as possible thought it would be a great idea to give them their own planets where they would no longer be minorities. So they packed in ethnic groups (some of only dozens or hundreds), compiled their cultures and languages, and sent them off into uncolonised planets. These minorities did grow and maintain their culture, but they have been pushed back thousands of times by other expanding states off into the periphery.

Lemming's Fact Sheet
Here you go. I went for dystopian and meant to mess up everyone else - so meet "The Regulation" - it's large, powerful, highly advanced, big enough to be a leading force in the galazy, and cursed with so much social confusion that it's influence is bound to screw up everyone else's society by osmosis! :-P


 * Empire name: Regulated Area Under Capital Designation 9352/The Regulation (formerly known as the United Lacaillian Systems/Lacaillia)
 * Founding year: 2201
 * Capital (City, World): Urban Unit 0001, Planetary Object Designation 02, Lacaille 9352 System
 * Nation symbol: A Centurion keeling before a judge, offering the judge his sword
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: 415
 * Estimated population: 420 Billion
 * Government: Permanent Bureaucracy
 * Current leader: Senior Regulation Modification Agent Dawkins Crowley-Patel
 * Currency: Regulation Currency Unit (Available in denominations of 1,10, 50, 100 - all containing pictures of moleculars structures - there is a law banning any individual from appearing on currency for fear of ideological glorification)
 * Military name: Regulated Area Emergency Defensive Mechanism (RAEDM)
 * Military size: 5 Billion
 * Official language(s): Regulation Standard Linguistic Code #001 (Originally based on New Zealand English, heavily influenced by Vespian Latin and Transit)
 * Other language(s): Regulation Standard Linguistic Codes #002-#199 - approved for literarary work and home speaking only. Regulation Standard Linguistic Code #000 (or Language Prime, pure New Zealand English) is the original language but is banned due to it's perceived affiliation with the Fascist/Nationalist dictatorship of 2220-2235. It is spoken only in secret by dissidents. It's only legal use is as a liturgical language in Church services (which are attended by only 5% of the population)
 * Preferred empire color: Mountbatten Pink (See Link)
 * How is the leader chosen?: The Senior Regulation Modification Agent is elected by a panel of the chancellors of the nation's ten largest universities. The Senior Regulation Modification Agent must hold a post-doctoral degree, must never have served in the military, must have served at least 10 years as a civil servant in the Permanent Bureaucracy, and cannot be chosen from among the 10 voters (although it is not uncommon for a voter to step down in order to seek the office).
 * How unified is the country?: Extremely unified
 * How tolerant are the people?: The people consider themselves hyper-tolerant of all new ideas but are deeply skeptical of their own ethnic traditions (Christianity, British/New Zealand traditional food, etc.) which they  associate with the fascist dictatorship of 2220-2235. There is also a genereral intolerance for lack of tertiary education, and of people who pracitice a more traditional Lacaillian way of life (or who call themselves "Lacailians" rather than "Regulation Citizens").
 * What kind of economy is there?: "Nordic" Welfare State (capitalism but with high taxes and very large, efficient welfare programs). Advancement is discourage and progressive taxes ensure basic needs are meet for all. It is difficult to become either rich or poor, but some people do both.
 * How does the army work?: The army is all-volunteer and small enough to be useful only for pure defense or as part of multi-national peacekeeping. The population is deeply skeptical of the military and soldiers are generally looked down upon - military service is (at best) seen as "a way out of poverty for those who have become mired in it". Veterans are barred from holding public office for fear that they have developed militaristic or nationalist ideas.
 * What's the literacy level?: 100% - Education is considered the highest value. 80% of the population graduates from university, and 50% hold doctoral degrees.
 * What's the overall technology?: Extremely high, behind only the Vespians overall - and Regulation products are often said to be more thorough and sturdy than Vespian products, even if slightly behind on research. Also, it is said that in personal communicatins and home-computing technology, the Regulation may actually be ahead of the Vespians.
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: Society is largely atheist, although for many science has taken the place of religion and leading scientists also become leading moral thinkers. 5% of the population practices Protestant Christianity, and another 5% practice other traditional human religions such as Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism.
 * What's the most admired class?: Scientists, followed by bureaucrats.
 * What's the lowest class?: Those lacking university education.
 * How are women treated?: Women are treated equally, and in many cases better than men - a significant portion of the population has embraced radical feminism and the idea that the "violent male impulse" was the prime cause of the Fascist/Nationalist dictatorship of 2220-2235. However, surprisingly, most members of the bureaucracy are men despite the lack of limitations on women. It is often said that this is "cultural inertia". Stay-at-home parenthood is  discouraged for both sexes.
 * What is the attitude toward sex?: Extremely permissive - promiscuity is actively encouraged as a positive societal value. Prostitution is legal but is not considered a profitable due to the moral looseness of the general population. Almost no behavior is considered taboo, although polygamy is universally frowned upon. Marriage is still practiced, especially among the religious, but it is generally seen as illogical. 40-50% of the population holds to a philosophy called "Motherism" which believes that the presence of a father is unhealthy for a developing child due to the "undesirable violent influences which male parents imbue in children". Hence, it is not uncommon for groups of 2-4 heterosexual women to form "child-rearing homes" where they cooperate to ensure "healthy multi-parent homes free of violent male influence".
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?: Extreme confusion on matters sexual, twisted and complicated family relationships in a society with absolutely no taboos, rampant crime among young men, especially those without  doctoral education. General sense of self-hatred among the population, who view patriotism and their own ethnic traditions as the cause of the Fascist Dictatorship of 2220-2235 and believe they must repent for the expansionist wars of that period. Sense of  powerlessness in politics, and growing discontent with the bureaucracy.

Oct's Fact Sheet

 * Empire name: Kingdom of Isola/Isola
 * Founding year: 2630
 * Capital (City, World): Nova Roma, Lupia
 * Nation symbol: A Wolf
 * Total Systems: 7
 * Estimated population: 45 billion
 * Government: Constitutional Monarchy
 * Current leader: King Pablo I
 * Currency: Sercius
 * Military name: Imperial Navy
 * Military size: 1.2 billion
 * Official language(s): Italian
 * Other language(s): German, French
 * Preferred empire color: Teal
 * How is the leader chosen: Birth right
 * How unified is the country: Good
 * How tolerant are the people: Good
 * What kind of economy is there: Social-Capitalism
 * How does the army work: You must serve one year in the army and 5 years in the reserve
 * What's the literacy level: 99%
 * What's the overall technology: High-tech
 * What do the people worship or invoke: A single  The Catholic god <--- There is only one god in Catholicism
 * What's the most admired class: Nobles
 * What's the lowest class: A very small well paid servant class
 * How are women treated: Like equals
 * What is the attitude toward sex: Fun thing to do
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem: Not enough exports

Spamming is not allowed
You can't be messaging multiple users to advertise your timeline ideas. This is called spamming, and this site does not tolerate this. Please don't let this happen again. I'd also suggest removing the messages you've already added. LG may also message you about this. -- 06:28, December 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem. Sorry for jumping to conclusions. Just seeing you messaging multiple users with the same thing just screamed "spam" to me. If those users are okay with it, than there should be no problem. Otherwise you seem to understand the situation. I have no interest in getting involved in your survey, but good luck with it. -- 16:04, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Whether most of them agreed to it on chat or not, you still harassed at least one user with it that did no such thing. Betting on more than one, too. Don't do that again, Viva. Lordganon (talk) 09:02, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
I am not understanding.For what is that?What am i supposed to answer?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:35, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva - do you mind me asking what you're going to use this for? I'm going to fill it out regardless, but the planned use is going to make a difference how I do it. For instance - if this is like a map game that  would be affiliated with, the nation will conform to my values --- if it's for some other use, then it's going to be a really messed up society that is specifially designed to play havoc with whatever timeline it exists in. Also had something I wanted to talk to you about in the New Year as we wind up PMII - I was thinking of seeing if we could get a few people together to write some short stories set in the PMII world. I've been very curious about the human aspect of the crazy world we're building and I thought before we finish the game we shold have some fun with some "worm's eye view" narratives rather than our bird's eye view as players (I was thinking get like five people, and don't let anyone set their story in their own nation).

Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:44, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Ooh, really? I was joking at the time, but that would be awesome!

19:42, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

You can make the color black or white if you want  - as long as it's something drab. Also - do whatever you want with the population and tech but keep it as advanced and as large as is possible. The goal was to create an extremely dystopian version of the European Union - so it has to be rich, powerful and advanced (just really messed up and structured in such a way that it makes conterproductive decisions that hurt everyone else in their orbit). Commandante Lemming (talk) 19:38, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Went back and edited - made is as big as I could within your limits and wrote very specifically in my tech section that we are just behind the Vespians - although I gave myself a few small potential advantages (c'mon you can't have EVERYTHING to yourself). Basically I'm envisioning the Vespians as the "United States" in this universe and myself as Germany/Europe - I'm not a military threat to you but I am an economic and engineering competitor, Work for you? Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:30, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - Since you said 415 and then edited, I moved up to 415 and upped my population to roughly a billion per system (which I think is lenient). I don't mind being in the outside loop but if I'm in on this thing I want some real power at the start (Call it the "Selk'nam complex" lol! I only care to build one empire from scratch at a time - and my PM3 concept is even harder than the Selk'nam). Anyway - can't wait to see where this thing ends up! Obviously you know where I'm going - as always I prioritze timeline chaos over victory. Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:54, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Nice! I like the real-estate you gave me - good neighborhood. Also, please list me just as "The Regulation" ("Lacaillia" is a distant memory). Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:19, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks! This timeline looks awesome! Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:21, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Soon man, soon. I'll have a read of it and tell you if it's fine. ;)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:00, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Are you still planning to attack Russia? Yank 18:04, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Lx having the "largest tank army" is probably meaningless when the infastructure supporting said army is likely gone. How will he be able to use said tanks when he'd likely have trouble getting fuel, spare parts or ammunition? Yank 19:17, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

I still think that Imp's recent event basically erases that atvantage. Plus there's the fact that even the most militerized populace would become exausted by war eventually. Yank 19:29, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

I think the article is nearly ready. All I request be changed is that you hide the parts which are from 1973 onward and work upto 1973 for now. And not too many natives would have died from Yellowstone. Remember, only the first couple of years were really bad in Africa, after that rainfall increase on a rapid rate - allowing Lake Chad to come into existance. :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:28, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

I thought we were invading Greece first. Want me to continue with my invasion in South America anyway? Mscoree (talk) 11:31, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Okay so let me get this straight. We're invading Neu Berlin this turn, and once we get more support in a few turns we'll invade Greece? Mscoree (talk) 18:48, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Post-War Claims
New Muscovy is the nation that the arrow in this map is pointing to. I want it because I have the intention to name one of my vassals that. I can't exactly do that if the nation of the same name isn't in the territory. Yank 04:14, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

That is Kanada. Novomoskovsk (not New Muscovy, which is just a whack ass Anglicization) is Imp's brainchild.

04:21, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

I think I can clear this up. You see, when Lx created Kanada, he created the capital of Novomoskovsk at the location of OTL Montreal. Then Yank or Imp created Novomoskovsk (nation) without prior knowledge. This became a problem once I annexed it so I made it Novnovgorod.

04:22, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

When I named it that it was a reference to the historic nation of Muscovy, not the city of Moscow itself. The people of the nation stylized themselves as the successor to the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, hence the name. Plus I think that New Muscovy is a better name than essentially calling it New New City, which is what calling it Novnovgorod is. The thing is that when he renamed it he didn't explain that there was a city already by that name. He just said that most of the people were from Novgorod. I'd think it'd be simpler to revert to your older version of the map. I want to establish two vassal states. One in OTL Newfoundland and Labrador named Vinland and another in the rest of the territory named New Muscovy. --Yank 04:40, December 22, 2013 (UTC)