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Yemeni Invasion (PMII)
Von. Give me the helps. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:44, April 7, 2013 (UTC)



Of course. But Imp does want an enclave on the side of the Rea Sea, so if you could accomedate him, I'd appreciate it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:02, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Its not much Von. Here's the map. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:24, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, well I'm not sure if I could find the first part of the argument. :/  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:02, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I know I am going into a lot of wars. But its all going to stop soon. I just want to take advantage of my 1.5. Eventually, my people will stop supporting the wars (when the 1.5 stops in 1679), then my Raja will die and my government will change. A crisis will happen, and then the nation will enter an era of peace as it rebuilds its strengths. :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:55, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, it will. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:44, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Von! I was just wondering if you were going to add all the changes to the 1670 map today or put it straight on to the 1675 map with the 1670-1674 expansion too? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:50, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, k. As long as Collie can edit the maps again, it'll be fine. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:56, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

hey the Roman colony of Madagascar has been expanding for 2,000 square kilometers for the past 37 years, and i dont think the map is accuratly showing that, could you please change the map as to include the expansion? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:47, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Von, I apreciate it. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:57, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Expaning borders on a map is SO hard! I now understand Collie's (and your) pain. Oh, jst checking, but I can still invade 2 small states next to Bengal as long as they are before 1679, yeah? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:40, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

I got ya. BTW, all the stuff going on in your nation, its not going to drag me into some sort of war or something, yeah? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:43, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

The extemist sects (even though you crushed them). But yeh, as long as there is no war, I'm completely fine. And what do you mean by a stronger presence in India (if I may ask)?. :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:12, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, ok then. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:05, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union Map PMII
Btw i have changed the borders of the Koori Union on the map to reflect the same borders as the ones on the tribal map. Thanks for updating the rest of the map though. Hailstormer (talk) 19:37, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Why have you changed it so that the tribes i accepted into my state are no longer part of the Koori Union on the map? The borders i had on the tribal map and my version of the map were accurate and no-one has claimed i have posted anything implausible so the borders on my map should be the ones used. So could you change it back please? Hailstormer (talk) 20:11, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry i think i messed up the explaination of what i meant. I now know i can't have two nations so i have removed everything to do with that in my post. I have also removed the part refering to creating the second section of the Koori Union as i agree that it would be implausible to have a nation split by such a large distance. The map change i am refering to is when my map was replaced with your map after i changed it. The map that i am refering to is the one below. This map reflects the tribes that entered the Koor Union when it was officially made a nation, whilst also not having any part of the extra claimed land added. Hailstormer (talk) 16:29, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that is what i have started doing so don't worry about it. Just a quick question, the islands in the Bass Strait, not Tasmania the other two, can be colonised as part of my main nation right? As they are only in a strait rather than across an ocean? Hailstormer (talk) 16:51, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

One last question, how would i go about forming a Koori enclave on the continent? I want to secure the sacred site of Uluru for the Koori Union and due to its position it would be an enclave. Would this be classified as a colony? Hailstormer (talk) 17:22, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Ok i will do that. Thanks for the help. Hailstormer (talk) 17:45, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey buddy i was hoping you could help me with the algorithim against the Pitjantjatjara tribe? Since it is my first algorithim i was hoping someone could help me do it. Also instead of turning them into a vassal could i turn them into a member tribe of the Koori Union and keep them as an enclave? I read through the rules and it says that i can choose to do what i want with the tribe as long as it is plausible, and i think that turning them into a member tribe is plausible. Hailstormer (talk) 20:16, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

I have done the algorithim now so feel free to have a look. Hailstormer (talk) 20:16, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

on
Hey Von, do you want an allaince in PMII? Im the Kingdom of Rome DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 12:05, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I can try and get Persia to give you Mecca. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 12:19, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union Dispute
Could you please have a look at my post in 1978 as the Koori Union. Someone is trying to dispute my rate of expansion when i have only stuck to the 10000km you told me and crossed out my post. Hailstormer (talk) 16:33, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I haven't take over the whole of eastern Australia. Also my expansion didn't take over the course of a year. Over the course of five years i colonised a very small trail along the coast. Have a look at the Koori Union page for the map:  http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Koori_Union_(Principia_Moderni_II_Map_Game)

Hailstormer (talk) 18:18, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

So now that i have explained this can someone look again at my defence please? Hailstormer (talk) 21:49, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I hae put up my defence and the map of the expansion on the talk page. Feel free to read it when ready. Hailstormer (talk) 22:11, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

can Rome buy some lands from the Caliphate

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 20:51, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

whichever lands you can will sell to me. Ill pay top dollar and allow Arabian troops access for 100 years. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:23, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Map maker request
i don't know if you and the rest of the mod team are looking for a new map maker or mod at all. but seeing that ap is gone,and that there has been some problems with the maps until now i'm wondering if you would need another map maker in case neither you or Collie are able to post the next map or anything. if you are currently not considering to add a new member to help in the map making of the turns to come. i at least here by show my interest if in the future you may need any help with the maps Sine dei gloriem (talk) 21:29, April 28, 2013 (UTC) also, excuse my grammar

sure go ahead. if you do make it into a game though again i would apreciate it if i could be an honory mod, no real powers but can suggest stuff to you and the other mods. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:06, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

oh ok then go ahead then dude DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 18:59, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

I have threatened the Persians that if they step into Sindustan, diplomatically or otherwise, I will be defending Sindustan and invading them. You in for some land "which the Capliah regrets selling?" :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:58, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union (PMII)
Hello once again. As you may who may not have seen i purchased a number of islands from Japan not long ago. I am hoping to expand upon this. As a result would you be willing to let me buy your island colonies north of Australia. It would be greatly appreciated and down the line it won't be forgotten. Hope to hear from you soon. Hailstormer (talk) 00:15, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

PM2
Go right ahead (although I'd prefer if you could rather just vassalise the whole thing and colonies), since I kinda gave up on PM2 after a few changes. Good luck! :D Fed (talk) 03:26, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes war with Persia. All 3 of us could do some damage and get some good land. Can u do a mod event killing the Queen of Azerbejian? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 11:15, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Rome
Total: +70
 * Location: +5
 * Tactical Advantage: +8 (Attacker, High Ground, Larger Colonieal Empire)
 * Strength: Rome (L+4), Hungary (M+3), Wallachia (MV+2) Italia (M+3) Greece (MV+2), Aymará (MV+2), Malacca (MV+2), Siam (MV+2), Bulgaria (MV+2), Yugoslavia (MV+2), Dimurats (M+3), Azerbejian (MV+2), Crete (M+3), Cyprus (MV+2), Novrogod (M+3), Minsk (MV+2),  Suur-Suomi  (MV+2) , Saami  (MV+2)  , Astrakhan State  (MV+2)  , Riga Tartar  (MV+2), Arabian Federation (M+3), Arab Caliphate (MV+2), Netherlands (M+3) = +57/10= 5.7, so +6
 * Military Development:30/3= +10
 * Economy: 30/3= +10
 * Infrastructure: +15
 * Expansion: -3
 * Motive: +7 (Religous, Persia is non christian and its people need salvation)
 * Chance: +5
 * UTC Time: 1*4*2*9= 72=y
 * Edit count= 6,203=x
 * 6203/72*pi=270.6569337530206591
 * Chance= +5
 * Nation Age:
 * Population: 23,000,000, so +8
 * Participation: 10
 * Recent Wars: -3

Persia
Total: +48
 * Location: +5
 * Tactical Advantage: 0
 * Strength: Persia (L+4), Armenia (MV+2), Mesopatamia (MV+2), Arabia (MV+2) = +10/0= +0
 * Military Development: 3/0=0
 * Economy: 3/0=0
 * Infrastructure: +13
 * Expansion: -1
 * Motive: +10
 * Chance: +6
 * Nation Age: +0
 * Population: 23,000,000 so +8
 * Participation: 10
 * Recent Wars: -3

Result
((70/(48+70))*2)-1= 0.1864406779661017

(0.1864406779661017)*(1-1/(2x7))= 0.1731234866828087214,

So after a 7 year war Rome can annex 17% of Persian lands.

Rome and its allies have won, Arabia im going to make him give up control of Armenia and some lands along his coastline to that your to footholds there are connected. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 19:52, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Land Deal
Hello once again. As you may who may not have seen i purchased a number of islands from Japan not long ago. I am hoping to expand upon this. As a result would you be willing to let me buy your island colonies north of Australia. It would be greatly appreciated and down the line it won't be forgotten. Hope to hear from you soon. Hailstormer (talk) 14:10, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

add the dimurats, they decalred war last year then i asked him to change his post and he did cuz i thought military support was better, guess i do coaltion wars wrong DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:06, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

we need to talk in private about PM2, please join me in chat. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:25, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Can you join chat please. Hailstormer (talk) 01:16, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

In that case can you please draw up the algorithm for what Dean discussed with you. If you are online then I will be on chat if you need help. Hailstormer (talk) 17:12, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: Austria
As you requested I signed you up for Austria. To fill you in on Austria's situation, after the apocalypse the Austrian government was severally weakened. The Nationalist party, a group dedicated to reestablishing Austria rose up and started a civil war. The Habsburgs, led by Karl von Habsburg, decided to seize the situation by declaring his house the rulers of the nation. The Habsbugs aligned with the Nationalists and were able to eventually take over the nation. The last democratic strongholds in the Alps eventually fell and the Austrian government fled into Lichtenstein. The country of Lichtenstein has since become one of Austria's main enemies, filled with thousands of Austrian refugees and rebels.

Also as I promised, here is your first turn already typed for you:

Austria: Following successful consolidation of Austrian core territory, a vast industrial renewal program begins. Work begins on an upgraded Bundesstraßen (Austrian autobahn) system from Vienna to the Austrian Alps, which will be used to transport supplies and building materials across the nation. The Nationalist forces who followed the Habsburgs in their war to reclaim their homeland are heavily rewarded, and the army is expanded, encouraged by propaganda and national ideals. Fighting to protect the Österreich becomes a sense of national pride, and is well respected. Other national parties such as the Progressive and Liberal parties gain some footing, but still remain a minority to overly popular and emperor-backed nationalist regime. The first council meeting of the Grand Council and the members of the Holy Roman Empire concludes, voting unanimously to sign a non-aggression pact with all members. All German survivor states are eventually added to the council through principalities and duchies, drawn by the Grand Council according to historic borders. Relations with Liechtenstein continue to decline, with much of their government influenced by the heavily popular anti-Habsburg and pro-democratic Austrian resistance. Strategists begin looking into possible plans to invade the nation and pacify its borders for good. We ask Bohemia to join the Holy Roman Empire.

Welcome to the game, and good luck! Mscoree (talk) 01:24, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Just so you know, Scandinavia is attempting to annex Germany, and the north German city states ask for your help. If you play your cards right, Germany can be united. Mscoree (talk) 03:54, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Muslim Bloc
Sure.Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 21:09, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Join the defensive only allaince League of Nations, as its anti imperialism allaince basically so that we can put up a fight against future agression by enemy nations. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 22:34, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

UKAP-Arabian Divisioin of Levant
Ok i talked to Fed and he said it was fine if we split the Levant, heres the chat log:

ff
 * DeanSims what do you want so Rome can have the Levant as its vassal?
 * 7:51 Fedelede Dean, I already promised the Arabian Federation the same thing before
 * You're welcome to try and I'm not really too sure about going back anywayss
 * 7:52 DeanSims if i can convince Von to take Egypt and land connecting it to Arabia would that be ok if i took the rest
 * 7:52 Fedelede Sure

Ok, so will you agree to split thew Levant with me? Youd geta ll og Egypt, the Sinai, and Jordan, and id get Israel and everything else. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:58, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

You may post as the Levant as long as you keep it intact. Scandinator (talk) 01:26, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Von, im the Lakota in PM2 and ive made contact with the Germans, can you uncross my post pleae, as someone else crossed a majority of it out. Thanks, DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 13:43, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Persia
Sure! Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 23:07, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, need help in persia? Quashi (talk) 02:48, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Showme in a map how can we split the land Quashi (talk) 16:46, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, just shoot a request in the game! CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 03:52, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Prussian War (PMII)
I'm fairly intent on conquering and annexing Prussia. I want to be absolutely certain that I'll be able to conquer them con you help me with that? Yank 17:59, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

What I really meant was how much longer would I need to expand my military to get enough territory to conquer them? I'm really keen of the idea of Konigsburg being given a Lithuanian name. Yank 18:26, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Questions
I've been off the wiki for sometime, any changes to PM i should be wary of, and what nation are you, im going to see if i can strick an alliance.Andr3w777 (talk) 00:28, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Are you going to turn PMII into a timeline when it ends? Local (talk)

OK, it just looked entertaining Local (talk)

I might join, what nation would you recommend? I don't want to be to big, as I will probably not post every turn, but I don't want to get annexed either --Local (talk)

Ok, I will counter-offer Timor. This will allow you to have all of Madagascar under Comchellakian rule, and will also free you up to some extent from having to maintain such and extensive naval presence. In addition, my colony at Aber Dinas is really close by (OTL Australia), so it would be beneficial for Wales. Reximus55 (talk) 22:58, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

You are gaining the entirety of Madagascar - over 225,000 sq mi - and you refuse to give up 10,000 sq km. Think about it, please? If you can, get on chat, also. Reximus55 (talk) 23:16, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH Algorithm
Here is a brief explaination of the algorithm used in NotLAH.

To summarize the rules page, every major battle requires an algorithm. When you declare war you first must decide why you are declaring war and what you seek to gain, just like in real life. This is called your causi belli and your objective(s). You total up the number from each your causi belli and objective, and if your number is positive, you subtract that amount from your stability. If it is zero or negative no nothing to your stability.

Next you do the actual algorithm. This uses similar elements as other popular map game algorithms (such as PM2), such as location, tactical advantage, etc. The algorithm should be preformed on both parties. At the end everything is totaled and the person with the highest number wins.

Some unique mechanics I should mention are the leader and soldiers modifiers. If you have a named, prestigious general (for example the US has used people such as Westmoreland and Abrams. If you can't find any you may make one up, with the appropriate context and back story.) then you can add some extra points depending on the leadership of your general. With the soldiers mechanic, you divide your soldiers by the number of enemies (each party does this).

Message me if you have any questions. Mscoree (talk) 22:45, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Von, is it a good idea to be in dynastic union with another country, like Bavaria with German Empire.Andr3w777 (talk) 02:11, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

I'm fine with a German Union, as long as I can retain doing whatever I like mostlyAndr3w777 (talk) 22:34, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

to wage independent war?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

If the union, fails to satisfy, may I leave or would that be tantamount to civil war?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:46, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Von, any ideas on how to expand my empire peacefully in PMII?

23:15, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried the militaristic approach, but algorithm results have kind of been sucking for me recently.

00:08, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Relax, we can have a deal, i can give you the rest of kuwait, but i will like to expand ducht persia; i was thinking in make the entire country in a puppet, or u have any extra idea? Quashi (talk) 03:59, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Leader, Netherlands and also put all my team: Oldeburg, Liege, Iceland, Ducht Persia (vassals) and Kongo, Acech-Pasai (puppets). Also i will like to expand my colonies... Quashi (talk) 19:46, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re: PMII Napoleon n' stuff
Hey! Sorry it's taken me so long to respond.

I am interested in an alliance with the Arabian Federation, perhaps a trade deal is in order? (And as a side note, how are your relations with a certain nation on the Horn of Africa?)

Also, a mini-Napoleon? In France, or another country? And does Napoleon imply there will be some fort of mini-French Revolution to produce him? It sounds like there are going to be some interesting times ahead for Europe! Callumthered (talk) 08:37, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

That sounds like a will stir things up a bit, but I suppose it turns out good for me in the end. I take it Saxony would be in much the same position as, say, Piedmont otl, ie: I get taken over completely, but my government survives in Saxon Norway and the Faroes? (Boy I'm glad I didn't sell them!)

And yes, the nation to which I was referring was Ethiopia. Callumthered (talk) 06:15, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

The reason I ask is because my African colony is unfoortunately squashed between Kongo (a Dutch puppet, I believe) and an Ethiopian colony. I am thinking of ways to improve the situation, either through negotiation with one of the neighbours, or through war with one of them. But it's all just a vague concept in my head at the moment. Callumthered (talk) 02:38, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

OK, you have a deal, I want as much as I can get out of Southern India. Count on Georgia, Mysore, Travancore, Lanka, Luxembourg, Aquatine, and Chimu to be in this.

19:51, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I have a defensive contract with them. Otherwise I would totally join the coalition. CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 20:13, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Bavaria sends military aid and supplies and is a coalition leader, Salzburg is just sending suppliesAndr3w777 (talk) 18:10, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Saxony has declared full-on war (so I suppose that makes them a leader?) and the rest of the Confed. is just sending supplies/a small expeditionary force. Thanks for doing this, by the way. Callumthered (talk) 18:31, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I've placed my age as well as a tentative population and military development, you may need to fill in the points for such.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:22, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, here is a complete list of members of the Confederation of the Rhine (excluding Saxony and Luxemburg) Remember that they're all quite small countries ;) Callumthered (talk) 05:29, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Munster
 * Lorraine
 * Bar
 * Metz
 * Sandgau
 * Strassburg
 * Palatine
 * Mainz
 * Westphalia
 * Berg
 * Cologne
 * Cleves
 * Limburg
 * Anhalt

I don't wish to see Orissa demolished though... I support you taking Yemen but no other territorial exchanges as a result of the war. Scandinator (talk) 15:52, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

And honestly... I'm not likely to join the war on either side, the stakes are too high but with nothing that I want now from Ethiopia I'm happy to stay neutral... Scandinator (talk) 16:18, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

I think we will be willing to see you withdraw if you agree on taking Yemen and transferring the Zanj colony to the us. Now you get the bigger and more symbolic land, so you up for it? Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:07, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Aren't you a little late to post your 1723 turn? Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:08, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you did kinda start it. Now, will you accept the trade deal? We are still giving you land, and we ask for is the Zanj colony in exchange. Yemen is more important to you anyway, im pretty sure. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Right. Would you just take Yemen and be fine then. Just stop the warring and stuff? Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:21, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

They still did it. And I'll put a W next to those nations then. D:  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:45, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

If you see, I have not edited my motives. They are in brackets and are unused. So I'm guessing you will not take up our offer ofYemen for free then. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:49, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Not me. I got nothing. And the Koori started the damn war. The vassals did not. Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:53, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

And lose all that effort I have spend over my nation. You destroyed my nation before, its not happening this time. Plus, if those two nations do not mean much, me'n Viva will discuss about letting them go. Although bear in mind, we will come after you now. Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:15, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

No wait. Show me in the rules, where it states this little rule. Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:21, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Right, first thing. Who controls the vassals? You? No, us. They are not main nations. You don't want them to stop - sure. We want them to stop, they stop. They are on my side after all. We did give explicit okaying, however that was, as I recall, to player nations who were played by players? Who had uder their control vassals?

If our nations are doing badly, we occupy them and tell them to withdraw from the war. You don't want to finish this war, tough. We won, by 1 point, and we called it. The war is over, and you either take Yemen or we take some land from you - your call. Who said anything about me or Viva withdrawing - we fought on, and we won.

Wait a second - the winning side gets to withdraw according to you, correct? Well, its us winning. So, really, "your argument is invalid". Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:02, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I am not a hypocrite. You destroyed my nation once before, I cannot have my nation destroyed again. Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:14, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

PM II Algorithm
It looks good to me, I have no objections. -Kogasa  2013 June 07, 01:47 (CET)

It passes my check. CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 19:22, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'm willing to sell some of the islands to you for OTL Jamaica. I'm winning the war with 33.33%+ already. Scandinator (talk) 17:10, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Well you tangled yourself in a massive war in the Middle East and Asia... Otherwise Imp and I would have been going for Gujrat and Minangkabau at this time. Scandinator (talk) 18:22, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I cant really misinterpret a capitialized LOL, lol... Anyways you can have the islands in the end. I'm more interested in West Papua. Scandinator (talk) 18:39, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hi man, i am back, we win the war, and i wanna know what i get? Quashi (talk) 22:36, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Hey man, I think I should get more territory than Wales ... And actually prefer Gabon to Angola Quashi (talk) 18:31, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

An Indian trading post would be great. But anyway, I'll see if I convince Saxony, to give me Gabon. The idea I had was if we won the war expand Kongo, but he established a colony there, and ruined my plans a little. Anyway I hope to count on you for anything. Quashi (talk) 04:56, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Nah, I found out Oyo is a vassal of the Mali. I don't know where Yorubaland is based exactly (aside from being in Nigeria), but I know that its located near Lagos, where the Yoruba are largely located. If I can find out where that land is, I'd be more than happy to keep it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:10, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Alright thanks. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:35, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

I have a Proposal for NotLAH. Seeing as to how we are enemies in PMII, it would be good to have us allied once more in a game. Now, here is a proposal for the division of Germany and West Poland.

As you can see, the Dutch would like a strip of land in West Germany, supported by South Africa, while if you agree, you will have our complete support in taking over all the specified lands.

I hope you agree as this would give me a crucial nation to back in Europe and for you to grow into a powerful nation and be my ally in the chaos we call Europe.

What dya say? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:27, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

So is that a no?  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:50, June 20, 2013 (UTC)#

Whoops, I actually didn't see that message. Sorry, and great!! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Persia
Want to deliver the death blow? I think there's just enough time left to add these results to the previous ones.

16:17, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: Holy Roman War
I don't know if you got my message from earlier, but you're now at war with Scandinavia in the Holy Roman War. They have already occupied much of northern Germany. The states of the Holy Roman Empire are asking for your help. If you do manage to beat back the Scandinavians this could be the final step toward full German unification under Austria. Mscoree (talk) 17:43, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

You want Dutch support? Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:55, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Mod event 1743
''' Rheatia, otherwise known as Switzerland undergoes a revolt against France. Nine of the Cantons lead by Bern demand freedom from French influence much to the displeasure of Geneva. They seek Bavarian and Italian protection. '''

do you agree with this mod event, i'm asking because France has taken a expansionist expansion of its right to its vassals and protectorates and full freedom of action within ther nations as far as their actions mean no harm to others, and a like other nations has granted freedom to other ethnicities in the empire almost eversince the start of the game (although as Burgundy), yet nations like wales and germany have not been so favorable towards them, and instead of they being the ones that have revolts often enough, they have become world empires, and france who tries to do so, its been either broken or shattered.

so knowing these, as well as the fact that every main nation of the French monarchic empire is a constitutional monarchy, do you think the mod event is still likely?

Thank you for your answer in advance,i'm just asking to see if anyone would agree with this event, to know if i fight against it or not Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:05, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Map Stuff
Hey Von. I was wondering about my expansions on the map. So, seeing as to how Collie has not expanded it porperly, I would like you expand it properly please. Using the 1740 map, would you be able to add the expansion of my South American territories please? Now, in 11 years, the puppet state has expanded (10000*11) 110000km. In 11 years, both colonies have expanded (4100*11) 45100km (but it for each of the colonies, not total).

Thank you. And btw, the Netherlands does not get any German land, so just act as if the territory expansion never happened, lol. Plus, we are just about to win. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:50, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry if I confused you. That was for NotLAH, are we have almost won both wars, lol. You have got to thank the CSTO btw. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:39, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

But could you please fix my expansion in South America? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:48, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

How did everyone else's colonies and stuff expand apart from mine? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:56, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

What? When? Look, you haven't fixed my expansion at all - and now you are stating that they have already been expanded. That's not really fair? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:59, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, your expansions did help, but I am 1064px short for the puppet state, and 571px short for my colonies. I have color counter so i counted it all. Now, I'm jus telling you - I'll fix the rest of the expansion myself. Thank you so far. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:25, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

What is going on with this Napoleon based event, as my nation is directly effected i beleive i need to know, If i do lose, since Napoleon is defeated later OTL, would I gain my territories back right? or would I be up the creek without a paddle? Also why Germany? Our nations are way more stable than France or the Netherlands. I have worked immeasurably hard to create this Union and to enlarge my Bavaria, I don't want to lose it, it is why I play so careful and focus more on science. On a side note, can i call on the Arabian Federation or Levantine to aid?Andr3w777 (talk) 16:38, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't aware, I was gone for a short holiday. Disregard my lastAndr3w777 (talk) 22:38, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Von. I just had a random Idea for the Strellokian War: Once he takes Anhalt (I'm assuming he does) could the Annists (you may or may not remember them, there was a Bonny Prince Charlie equivalent in the 1500s which was quite complicated but resulted in an exiled branch of the Anhaltese princely family claiming the Anhaltese throne) collaborate with him and bring about a restoration of the current Annist pretender (Carl-Johann)? And could parts of Saxony and Bavaria be annexed to Anhalt (during the period of Strellok's dominance), the way Hungary aexpanded during the Nazi years? I just thought of it all of a sudden. I'm not exactly sure why I want it to happen, but I think it would make Strellok's (short-lived) success in the Anhalt region more plausible.

I hope that it's not too convoluted, I just sort of wrote quickly so I didn't forget the idea :) Callumthered (talk) 11:08, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Could you get on chat? Reximus55 (talk) 19:10, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH Austria-Germany
What is the status over your control of Germany? Are you still playing as Austria? Are you also playing as Germany? can you let us know your status in playing NotLAH? G greg e (talk) 17:36, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you go on chat please? I need to talk to you about NotLAH. Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Well, my original idea was to create a commonwealth like system with all my American territories. I was going start creating dominions or something of the sort by the 1790s-ish.

23:12, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

I have created a map of my new nation, providing I can gain Russia and Portugal's colonies. i started mapping out the states, and quite by accident it added up to 13, funny coincidence huh? Andr3w777 (talk) 01:57, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

I need to chat with you when you can.Andr3w777 (talk) 00:18, July 13, 2013 (UTC)



Give me a UTC time that will work. Expansion there is certainly a good idea:)Andr3w777 (talk) 16:42, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

PM2
Can you help finish off my algorithm on the PM2 talk page. Kunarian TALK 06:25, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Ich muss mit Ihnen besprechen, eine andere Möglichkeit, wenn eine Nation hat eine Revolution, bekommen sie einen Bonus oder? Was ist, wenn mein Volk und eine stille Dritte hatte eine Revolution und dann folgte der älteren um Plan?Andr3w777 (talk)

PMII
sorry, didnt see that, anywasys, sure you can vassalize me, because i kinda lost interest in the game as of now. Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 12:04, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

You beat me to that! Anyways, gang up on Persia now?

20:43, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I need some time to recover from Strellok too. I think it shouldn't take too long. Would Qoyunlu join us?

15:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Um... I understand that my empire is too large to stay together at the moment but I will end up releasing Hungary, Romania, Greece, Turkey and the Americas over the next 50-70 years. Just leave it to me. I then plan for a communist revolution in which I regain most of these areas and eventually evolve into a unified technocracy. Scandinator (talk) 10:59, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Viva La Revolucion
So my General Aldersson(the former chancellor) has caused quite an uproar, due to the coming revolt being a popular one, as per rules, I should be able to keep my current nation age as well as gaining the 1.5 benefit yes?Andr3w777 (talk) 11:14, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Als wäre ein gute Zeit zu anzugreifen

Apparently, i might not be able to post tomorrow, or after tomorrow, since we are replacing the floor tiles in my house, so, can you post for me in case i am not able to do it? (i think i have time to do the map, though)--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 09:46, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, as you can see, i overestimated the time that would be needed for the replacing on the computer room, so i can already post right now.thanks for the intention,though.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 15:45, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

SOCrelo
Hey! Remember this game? Well, I was bored and deccided to remake it.

Join.

No, really. Join.

(Guns, who is too lazy to write out his sig) Hey Von, how you been? As you are probably aware I have decided to rejoin PMII as the Australian Aborigines, and as a result I have a few questions about the mechanics of what I want to do next. From what I have been told, from 1774, colonies can start to seek independence. Now what I want to do with the Australian Aboriginies is secure the independence of the Australian area of Nuevo Brescia, through either peaceful protest or populist revolt by the natives, and reform this land into a new Koori state. From what I have read, Italia is already dealing with rebellion in two of its vassals, and I was hoping to capitalise on this. Also as Nuevo Bresica is the largest colony in game, and equal if not greater to all other Italian lands, I believe a rebellion here is nothing but inevitable. But I was wondering on how to go about it, and what you had to say on the matter? Thanks in advance for your reply. Hailstormer (talk) 13:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Well would i be able to prompt a mod event through my actions in game? Such as launching rebellious attacks by the Koori Resistance faction of the Australian Aborigines, or by organising peaceful protests by Aborigines within Nuevo Bresica? Got tbh i already know what his reply will be, but i will ask anyways. Well i just finished reading two books on Australian Aborigine guerilla tactics following European colonisation and i was hoping to capitalise on that, so sticking with the Koori would be my prefered option. However one other nation did catch my eye, but it is only slightly less risky... Hailstormer (talk) 10:42, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Territories
I have decided that if I fail I will assume my Australian colony and start over. Far away from Europe. Die Republik von Australis. .Andr3w777 (talk) 20:09, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ok well i have spoken with him, and i was hoping you could come on chat as i have a few questions. Hailstormer (talk) 15:58, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

I have no wish for war with you, so can I give Baghdad the land I gained in the last Persian war as a peace offering?

19:41, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. I can give that land up to the Dimurat and Baghdad, but I'm afraid war with the Levant and Qoyunlu will continue. I gave Adana to Cyprus already.

20:03, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Random Rubbish
You know I luanched this war because I was assured by several victory. And now I am set to loose everything, I am honestly very upset. I have begun plans to withdraw to Australis and make that my nation if i fall. Is there anyway once I become a nation, to expand faster than the 15,000 sq km, as it would take a long time to expand. Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 16:46, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

All that is provisionary, for a moment it really looked like i was losing. Can you or somebody adjust i got to go out of townTrust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 13:45, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

I have a couple of questions. How long ago was Scotland under Scandinavian control? Also what is going on with all of these rebellions? Hailstormer (talk) 18:56, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Fair play on both counts. Hailstormer (talk) 19:03, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hes attempting to ignore the last 200 years of effort I've put in the Balkans so I'm definitely against it... Its a gross violation of the rules... Basically anyone would be able to go in and revolt away huge chunks of a country... I've been really moderate. I'm one of the first constitutional monarchies and I have granted equal rights to all landowners across the country regardless of ethnicity. I was going to have Turkey revolt first but peacefully... but hes just thrown the plans out... Not to mention it was a horrific case of metagaming... Scandinator (talk) 01:06, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

I apologize if I went too far with the retcon... It was just that it had been 24 hours since the post and I wasn't going to let it influence my post this year... Otherwise it would be giving him a victory and allowing this breach of stability and the rules... Scandinator (talk) 14:26, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so in response to your comment. Ive talked with the Old Baby and asked him if i could take over the Dimurats, and he said it was ok but that they were your vassals, may i play as the Dimurats.

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 22:07, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

i need u to come to chat its bout local and fuedal Warman555

He was overreacting to a joke on chat, last night. This is what happens when people don't properly sign stuff so you can't see the date Mafia (talk) 13:55, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

You think anymore about that mod event we talked about? Hailstormer (talk) 19:18, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Can I declare a win?Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 22:05, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure my ally Italia will understand. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 13:17, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

'''Can i speak to you on chat please? Hailstormer (talk) 14:50, August 8, 2013 (UTC)'''

Colonies in PMII
Hello Von.

I'm just curious, are we able to at least play three of our former colonies at a time as per the agreement with Lurker or has there been a decision on having no one controlling any of their former colonies? -Kogasa  2013 August 09, 00:08 (CET)

Ah, okay. Well I remember the discussion took place in the original PM talk page, and again here.

So, should we still follow that, or can we control all of our former colonies (and if someone once to play as a colony, they can ask the original owner)? -Kogasa  2013 August 09, 01:48 (CET)

Sure, that's sounds like a good deal. I accept. -Kogasa  2013 August 09, 02:09 (CET)

Just the mod event involving Denmark, Sweden and Norway. I am on chat now if you want to talk about it. Hailstormer (talk) 10:57, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Dude, I've told you I'm planning on getting them to break away over the next few years with several events akin to the OTL French Revolution. Im also completely out of time this week with psychology work so I dont have the time to check the page every few minutes and deal with these kinds of things... In regards to the Levant, thank you very much. And its a shame you wont be able to post anymore... Have fun on your trip! And stay safe!Scandinator (talk) 14:55, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

That's very nice of the Catholic King of Tanimbarkai, and I'll accept completely. Just out of interest though, why?Callumthered (talk) 22:06, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Oh no! It won't be the same without you. Have fun in HK though, I lived there for some years and it's great. Callumthered (talk) 22:30, August 10, 2013 (UTC) By the way, should I put an announcement up on the PMII Talk Page announcing the change? -Kogasa  2013 August 11, 17:42 (CET)

Is 1792 still the right year? Hailstormer (talk) 17:41, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

join me on chat, now? Cookiedamage (talk) 18:38, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Von i have declared war on Great Brython and updated the algorithim, please can you have a look when you are free to make sure it is correct. Thanks in advance. Hailstormer (talk) 14:01, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm rebuilding from a catastrophic earthquake and inland tsunami right now lol. CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 15:14, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Vandalism/Changing the Story
Hey Von. I just wanted to call attention to (if you haven't already seen), an important change in events in the past 24 hours. I have gone into a lot of detail on the talk page, but for now I just wanted to make sure you were aware. Pretty much, Hailstormer editted a turn 16 hours late, and then went ahead and changed the course of Brythonic history with that one edit. Thanks, and have a great time in Hong Kong! ~Rex.

Hey Von could you please come on chat when you get this. I was hoping to speak to you about all this. Hailstormer (talk) 18:18, August 14, 2013 (UTC)