Talk:The Steam Age (Map Game)

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Maps
Can someone edit the big map to look like the smaller european map? Jbwncster (talk) 19:32, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Africa is only supposed to have 3 nations/territories period

The grenadines are mexican, the bahamas are haitian, the azores are independent, guyana is too big, there's nothing in antarctica, Bhutan is independent,sardinia is independent, corsica is part of luca, borneo is part of the IPT.

The nations with no names were supposed to be colonizable/vassalizable and had no name so people could rename them. I can go name them something if thats confusing, but we needed a bunch of colonies cause this is a colonizing game within steampunk theme.  Jbwncster   (Talk)

I say leave them for colonization.

Algorithm Template
Feel free to edit the algo to fit our game

N/A War (Year Begin-Year End) Nation One (Attacker)


 * Location: 0


 * Tactical Advantage: 0


 * Nations: 0 = 0


 * Military Development: 0


 * Economic Development: 0


 * Expansion: 0


 * Infrastructure: 0


 * Motive: 0


 * Chance: 0


 * Edit count: 0


 * UTC: 0 (0) =


 * Total: 0/0*pi (3.14159265359) =


 * Nation Age: 0


 * Population: 0


 * Participation: +10


 * Recent Wars: 0


 * Vassals and Puppets: 0

Total: 0 Nation Two (Defender)


 * Location: 0


 * Tactical Advantage: 0


 * Nations: 0 = 0


 * Military Development: 0


 * Economic Development: 0


 * Expansion: 0


 * Infrastructure: 0


 * Motive: 0


 * Chance: 0


 * Edit count: 0


 * UTC: 0 (0) =


 * Total: 0/0*pi (3.14159265359) =


 * Nation Age: 0


 * Population: 0


 * Participation: +10


 * Recent Wars: 0


 * Vassals and Puppets: 0

Total: 0 Result


 * ((Winner/(Loser+Winner))*2)-1 = 0


 * (0)*(1-1/(2*0)) = 0

Discussion

Mods
We need mods Jbwncster (talk) 22:42, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

once all the mods are figured out they will be granted a position Jbwncster (talk) 12:21, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sign here if you want to be a mod:


 * 01:43, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * LefthandedLunatic (talk) 01:44, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)
 * Banner_of_the_Holy_Roman_Emperor_with_haloes_(1400-1806).svg Labarum.jpg CrimsonAssassin- I have special eyes 01:46, February 16, 2014 (UTC) (Was told by creator that I can be a mod)  (Second-in-commad Jbwncster (talk))
 * Jbwncster (talk) 01:48, February 16, 2014 (UTC) (Chief mod)
 * Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 12:56, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Toby
 * Toby

Steam Tech Levels
The steam tech levels will be based on the size of your nation and age.

The more land and the older you are, the higher the tech you will start with. As always every nation is able to learn and grow.

Backstory
Since this is just based on some maps someone did each nation is encouraged to make up your own backstory and page up to 1850 and fill it in as things go along

Timeline up to 1850 (add stuff for your nation that makes sense)

 * 1723 - Peter the Great overcomes an infection in his bladder.
 * 1737- A method of body preservation is discovered in Russia
 * 1779 – Erasmus Darwin designs a hydrogen-oxygen rocket engine
 * 1785 - Jean-Piere Blanchard crosses the English Channel in the first manually powered balloon.
 * 1788 - José, Prince of Brazil becomes infected with smallpox, causing many to believe that he shall die soon. This causes Maria I to prepare João VI for leading the kingdom.
 * 1789 - Uranium
 * 1790 - After two years, it is obvius that José did not have smallpox, yet he is still heir apparent. Due to this, João prepares plans for his disposla, which causes José to flee to Brazil.
 * 1793 - Even though his brother sent multiple assassins to locate and kill him José is able to escape them and gain supporters throughout Brazil, due to Maria I (or Maria the Mad in Brazil) being the one who betrayed her son.
 * 1794 - Ball bearings.
 * 1794 - José gains enough followers to start a revolution, although at the begining of the revolution he loses many battles.
 * 1795 - First military use of aerial reconnaissance utilizing balloons.
 * 1795 - Hydraulics
 * 1795 - Impact of the Wold Newton Meteorite in Yorkshire
 * 1795 - José's revolution takes a new turn. He and his men win battle after battle, causing many Portugese soldiers to either flee or join him. Soon he becomes de facto leader of a large portion of Brazil
 * 1796 - José's revolution is a success. His mother and his brother sign a treaty, ending the battle between them and thus establishing the Kingdom of Brazil.
 * 1797 - Top Hat
 * 1799 - After three years, most official laws and the constitution are finished. Brazil enters a new era, and begins importing many new technologies.
 * 1800 - Infrared; metal submarine
 * 1801 - Richard Trevithick constructs and demonstrates what is likely the first steam-powered road carriage.
 * 1801 - Joseph Marie Jacquard invents a programmable powered loom that uses punch cards to direct the weaving of textiles.
 * 1802 - First practical steamship, the Charles Dundas, used to tow barges
 * 1802 - Albert Mathieu first proposes a tunnel under the English Channel
 * 1803 - Spray gun
 * 1804 - Earliest Steam Locomotive
 * 1805 - Amphibious vehicle
 * 1806 - Carbon paper
 * 1806 - Francois Isaac de Rivaz creates the first internal combustion engine powered by hydrogen
 * 1807 - Steam-driven automobile
 * 1807 - First commercially viable steamship, the North River Steamboat
 * 1808 - Start of the Great Trigonometric Survey of British India to establish the heights of the world's tallest mountains.
 * 1809 – The oldest example of a postal mailbox
 * 1812 - First commercially viable steam locomotive, The Salamanca
 * 1815 - First steam airship crosses the English Channel
 * 1815 - Apr - Explosion of Mount Tambora in Indonesia leads to the Year Without a Summer
 * 1816 - Rev. Robert Stirling's engine
 * 1818 - Publication of "Frankenstein" by Mary Shelly
 * 1818 - Tsar Nikolai I assumes the Russian throne. Unhappy with the way Russia is going, he starts an initiative known as the New Russian Empire in order to jumpstart the fading glory of the Russian Empire.
 * 1818 – President John Quincy Adams approves an expedition by John Cleves Symmes, Jr. to the south pole in search of an entrance to the Earth's hollow interior. Congress never approves funding.
 * 1820 - Hans Christian Orsted discovers electromagnetism
 * 1821 - Steam motor
 * 1821 - John Herapath attempts to apply his co-developed model of kinetic energy of gases to gravitation, assuming that the aether is heated by the bodies and looses density so that other bodies are pushed to these regions of lower density
 * 1822 - Charles Babbage's Difference Engine #1 proposed
 * 1824 – First 'dinosaur' fossils described and named
 * 1825 - Binoculars
 * 1825 - First permanent public railway, Stockton and Darlington Railway
 * 1825 - William Sturgeon invents the electromagnet
 * 1826 - "Symmes' Theory of Concentric Spheres" published by Jeremiah Reynolds
 * 1826 - Steam stove
 * 1827 - Microphone; water turbine; aluminum
 * 1827 – Publication of “A Voyage to the Moon” by Joseph Atterley
 * 1828 - Differential gear; stethoscope
 * 1830 - First passenger railway driven entirely by steam power, the Liverpool and Manchester Railway
 * 1831 - Michael Faraday discovers electro-magnetic induction
 * 1833 - Charles Babbage begins work on his "analytical engine", a form of mechanical computer of a far more advanced nature and purpose than the difference engine
 * 1833 - Eugène François Vidocq founds the Le bureau des renseignements (Office of Information), the first known detective agency
 * 1834 - The Queen Mother, Maria Christina, fourth wife of Ferdinand VII, who died in 1833, officially ends The Kingdom of Spain's Inquisition.
 * 1835 - Automatic revolver
 * 1835 – Madame Tussard's Wax Museum open on Baker Street in London
 * 1837 - Daguerreotype; telegraph; Morse code
 * 1837 - First reported sighting of Spring Heeled Jack in London.
 * 1837 - June - Coronation of Queen Victoria
 * 1838 - Nikolai I is assassinated by revolutionaries. His son, Alexi I, assumes the throne and begins undoing the New Russia initiative. Nikolai's radical son, Victor Kruskenov, begins the Ruthenian Revolution.
 * 1838 - First regularly scheduled trans-Atlantic steamship crossings begun on the SS Great Western from Conciliary Union of France to Kingdom of Louisiane
 * 1838 - Institution of London Prize Ring Rules
 * 1838 - Cherokee Indians are forced off their farms and out of the homes and sent on what will become known as the "Trail of Tears" to Osagea.
 * 1838-  Four years of the Great Irish Famine has killed over a million in The Union Kingdom
 * 1839 - Vulcanization of rubber; protoplasm
 * 1839 - First edition of "Unaussprechlichen Kulten" published in Düsseldorf ("The Children of the Night")
 * 1840 – The first adhesive pre-payment postage stamp
 * 1841 - Incandescent lamp
 * 1841 - The Union Kingdom makes New Hibernia a colony
 * 1842 - Aether is discovered
 * 1842 - Treaty of Moscow; the Ruthenian Revolution ends. Old Russia now holds but a fraction of its former territory. Much of it is now owned by Ruthenia.
 * 1842 – Richard Owen coins the name 'dinosaur'
 * 1843 - Opening of the Thames Tunnel
 * 1843 - Oct – The News of the World begins publication in London by John Browne Bell, priced at just three pence. It quickly established itself as a purveyor of titillation, shock and criminal news.
 * 1845 - First English translation of "Unaussprechlichen Kulten" (Nameless Cults) published by Bridewall in London ("The Children of the Night")
 * 1845 - The Turk Wars begin. Ruthenia invades Turkmenistan and Persia.
 * 1845 - Bhutan's king abdicates in a coup d'état resulting in the kingdom becoming a federal republic.
 * 1846 - Thomas Cochrane, tenth Earl of Dundonald, presents to the British admiralty a superweapon that affords "the infallible means of securing at one blow our maritime superiority and of thereafter maintaining it in perpetuity-of at once commencing and terminating a war by one conclusive victory." Known as Dundonald's Destroyer, it is deemed so destructive that it is locked away and never revealed.
 * 1846 – Discovery of Neptune
 * 1847 - Nitroglycerin; chloroform
 * 1847 - Evaporated milk
 * 1847 – Discovery of the gorilla
 * 1848 - Marx and Engels issue "Communist Manifesto"
 * 1848 - Lord Kelvin determines absolute zero
 * 1848 - First appendectomy
 * 1848 - R. Porter & Company advertises aerial transport aboard "The Aerial Locomotive" from Dominion of Virginia  to Republic of California  to begin by April 1st on 1849.
 * 1849 - The United Kingdoms of the Danube launched a balloon to bomb Montenegro from the ship Volcano, marking the first offensive use of an aircraft carrier. After this attempt failed, the United Kingdoms of the Danube then launched a number of unmanned bomb-laden balloons, marking the first successful use of aerial bombing.
 * 1849 - Dr. Solomon Andrews founds the Inventors Institute in Perth Amboy, NJ
 * 1849 -  West Amazonia gains independence from the Kingdom of Brazil
 * 1849 - The Union Kingdom Post Office encourages the installation of residential letterboxes
 * 1849- The beginning of the Great Migration (movement of people from one country to another)
 * 1850 - Telegraph cable under English channel
 * 1850 - Steam Cybernetics are developed by the Ruthenian Empire
 * 1850 - First steam battleship, Le Napoleon, is launched
 * 1850 - The Commonwealth of Japan has first unsuccessful expedition to Antarctica
 * 1850 - The Turk Wars end. Turkmenistan and Persia become part of the Ruthenian Empire. The Pyotr-Class Battleship is launched by Ruthenia.

Discussions
Feel free to discuss anything that you feel might or could pertain to the game. Jbwncster (talk) 12:21, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

When will we start?
Is there a rough starting date for this game? What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 22:43, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

As soon as we figure out all the specifics and things needed for a map game which should be soon-ish, aiming for around march at the latest Jbwncster (talk) 03:58, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

We need more mods to start the game. Jbwncster (talk) 01:17, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Timeline up to 1850 (add stuff for your nation that makes sense)

 * 1732 - The Kingdom of Louisiane established after a decade long war with France. Following the deposing of King Louis XV and his flight to Louisiane.
 * 1779 – Erasmus Darwin designs a hydrogen-oxygen rocket engine
 * 1785 - Jean-Piere Blanchard crosses the English Channel in the first manually powered balloon.
 * 1788 - José, Prince of Brazil becomes infected with smallpox, causing many to believe that he shall die soon. This causes Maria I to prepare João VI for leading the kingdom.
 * 1789 - Uranium
 * 1790 - After two years, it is obvius that José did not have smallpox, yet he is still heir apparent. Due to this, João prepares plans for his disposla, which causes José to flee to Brazil.
 * 1793 - Even though his brother sent multiple assassins to locate and kill him José is able to escape them and gain supporters throughout Brazil, due to Maria I (or Maria the Mad in Brazil) being the one who betrayed her son.
 * 1794 - Ball bearings.
 * 1794 - José gains enough followers to start a revolution, although at the begining of the revolution he loses many battles.
 * 1795 - First military use of aerial reconnaissance utilizing balloons.
 * 1795 - Hydraulics
 * 1795 - Impact of the Wold Newton Meteorite in Yorkshire
 * 1795 - José's revolution takes a new turn. He and his men win battle after battle, causing many Portugese soldiers to either flee or join him. Soon he becomes de facto leader of a large portion of Brazil
 * 1796 - José's revolution is a success. His mother and his brother sign a treaty, ending the battle between them and thus establishing the Kingdom of Brazil.
 * 1797 - Top Hat
 * 1799 - After three years, most official laws and the constitution are finished. Brazil enters a new era, and begins importing many new technologies.
 * 1800 - Infrared; metal submarine
 * 1801 - Richard Trevithick constructs and demonstrates what is likely the first steam-powered road carriage.
 * 1801 - Joseph Marie Jacquard invents a programmable powered loom that uses punch cards to direct the weaving of textiles.
 * 1802 - First practical steamship, the Charles Dundas, used to tow barges
 * 1802 - Albert Mathieu first proposes a tunnel under the English Channel
 * 1803 - Spray gun
 * 1804 - Earliest Steam Locomotive
 * 1805 - Amphibious vehicle
 * 1806 - Carbon paper
 * 1806 - Francois Isaac de Rivaz creates the first internal combustion engine powered by hydrogen
 * 1807 - Steam-driven automobile
 * 1807 - First commercially viable steamship, the North River Steamboat
 * 1808 - Start of the Great Trigonometric Survey of British India to establish the heights of the world's tallest mountains.
 * 1809 – The oldest example of a postal mailbox
 * 1812 - First commercially viable steam locomotive, The Salamanca
 * 1815 - First steam airship crosses the English Channel
 * 1815 - Apr - Explosion of Mount Tambora in Indonesia leads to the Year Without a Summer
 * 1816 - Rev. Robert Stirling's engine
 * 1818 - Publication of "Frankenstein" by Mary Shelly
 * 1818 – President John Quincy Adams approves an expedition by John Cleves Symmes, Jr. to the south pole in search of an entrance to the Earth's hollow interior. Congress never approves funding.
 * 1820 - Hans Christian Orsted discovers electromagnetism
 * 1821 - Steam motor
 * 1821 - John Herapath attempts to apply his co-developed model of kinetic energy of gases to gravitation, assuming that the aether is heated by the bodies and looses density so that other bodies are pushed to these regions of lower density
 * 1822 - Charles Babbage's Difference Engine #1 proposed
 * 1824 – First 'dinosaur' fossils described and named
 * 1825 - Binoculars
 * 1825 - First permanent public railway, Stockton and Darlington Railway
 * 1825 - William Sturgeon invents the electromagnet
 * 1826 - "Symmes' Theory of Concentric Spheres" published by Jeremiah Reynolds
 * 1826 - Steam stove
 * 1827 - Microphone; water turbine; aluminum
 * 1827 – Publication of “A Voyage to the Moon” by Joseph Atterley
 * 1828 - Differential gear; stethoscope
 * 1830 - First passenger railway driven entirely by steam power, the Liverpool and Manchester Railway
 * 1831 - Michael Faraday discovers electro-magnetic induction
 * 1833 - Charles Babbage begins work on his "analytical engine", a form of mechanical computer of a far more advanced nature and purpose than the difference engine
 * 1833 - Eugène François Vidocq founds the Le bureau des renseignements (Office of Information), the first known detective agency
 * 1834 - The Queen Mother, Maria Christina, fourth wife of Ferdinand VII, who died in 1833, officially ends The Kingdom of Spain's Inquisition.
 * 1835 - Automatic revolver
 * 1835 – Madame Tussard's Wax Museum open on Baker Street in London
 * 1837 - Daguerreotype; telegraph; Morse code
 * 1837 - First reported sighting of Spring Heeled Jack in London.
 * 1837 - June - Coronation of Queen Victoria
 * 1838 - First regularly scheduled trans-Atlantic steamship crossings begun on the SS Great Western from Conciliary Union of France to Kingdom of Louisiane
 * 1838 - Institution of London Prize Ring Rules
 * 1838 - Cherokee Indians are forced off their farms and out of the homes and sent on what will become known as the "Trail of Tears" to Osagea.
 * 1838-  Four years of the Great Irish Famine has killed over a million in The Union Kingdom
 * 1839 - Vulcanization of rubber; protoplasm
 * 1839 - First edition of "Unaussprechlichen Kulten" published in Düsseldorf ("The Children of the Night")
 * 1840 – The first adhesive pre-payment postage stamp
 * 1840 - Acadia begins to create Airships of varying size.
 * 1841 - Incandescent lamp
 * 1841 - The Union Kingdom makes New Hibernia a colony
 * 1842 - Aether is discovered
 * 1842 – Richard Owen coins the name 'dinosaur'
 * 1843 - Opening of the Thames Tunnel
 * 1843 - Oct – The News of the World begins publication in London by John Browne Bell, priced at just three pence. It quickly established itself as a purveyor of titillation, shock and criminal news.
 * 1845 - First English translation of "Unaussprechlichen Kulten" (Nameless Cults) published by Bridewall in London ("The Children of the Night")
 * 1845 - Bhutan's king abdicates in a coup d'état resulting in the kingdom becoming a federal republic.
 * 1846 - Thomas Cochrane, tenth Earl of Dundonald, presents to the British admiralty a superweapon that affords "the infallible means of securing at one blow our maritime superiority and of thereafter maintaining it in perpetuity-of at once commencing and terminating a war by one conclusive victory." Known as Dundonald's Destroyer, it is deemed so destructive that it is locked away and never revealed.
 * 1846 – Discovery of Neptune
 * 1847 - Nitroglycerin; chloroform
 * 1847 - Evaporated milk
 * 1847 – Discovery of the gorilla
 * 1848 - Marx and Engels issue "Communist Manifesto"
 * 1848 - Lord Kelvin determines absolute zero
 * 1848 - First appendectomy
 * 1848 - R. Porter & Company advertises aerial transport aboard "The Aerial Locomotive" from Dominion of Virginia to Republic of California to begin by April 1st on 1849.
 * 1849 - The United Kingdoms of the Danube launched a balloon to bomb Montenegro from the ship Volcano, marking the first offensive use of an aircraft carrier. After this attempt failed, the United Kingdoms of the Danube then launched a number of unmanned bomb-laden balloons, marking the first successful use of aerial bombing.
 * 1849 - Peru and Brazil sign a military alliance.
 * 1849 - Dr. Solomon Andrews founds the Inventors Institute in Perth Amboy, NJ
 * 1849 -  West Amazonia gains independence from the Kingdom of Brazil
 * 1849 - The Union Kingdom Post Office encourages the installation of residential letterboxes
 * 1849- The beginning of the Great Migration (movement of people from one country to another)
 * 1850 - Telegraph cable under English channel
 * 1850 - First steam battleship, Le Napoleon, is launched
 * 1850 - The Commonwealth of Japan has first unsuccessful expedition to Antarctica
 * 1850 - An Acadian Airship, with a population of around 1000 successfully flies across the Atlantic, and is tethered in London, before returning to Acadia. Plans are made to circumnavigate the world in the coming years. Many Acadian Airships are made for the Military, and float using Aether. Steamships based on Le Napoleon are made.

Major powers
I believe major powers should be controll by better players... For example. letting Spartian have the Union kingdom is an awful decision

Wait, Spartian's the UK? The can't be allowed! Guns? Ms? Anyone, come take the UK!

Why me? I mean, i got New Russia in the north of one part of my Empire, and i dont control much of africa.Spartian300 (talk) 09:39, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

What happened to the USA?

It got split up and was never a nation Jbwncster (talk) 01:26, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Up for debate
Should we have NPC nations in africa? Jbwncster (talk) 01:26, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Dominion of Virginia is basically the USA and the Republic of California is basically a breakaway of Mexico. Jbwncster (talk) 01:26, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

For

 * Banner_of_the_Holy_Roman_Emperor_with_haloes_(1400-1806).svg Labarum.jpg CrimsonAssassin- I have special eyes 04:46, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)
 * Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Abstain
Shadow you ass hat.Spartian300 (talk) 21:53, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

Immaturity isn't helping you bill (talk)

I concur with Toby

You both know how much he hates me right?Spartian300 (talk) 09:28, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Since Democracy says i shouldnt be a major Power, ill swithc.Spartian300 (talk) 15:53, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Some steampunk music to get you in the mood
Abney Park - End of Days

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wfboKtXdUo&list=PL2BBDEFBBA168DF41 BAM! Music! What's this? An entire Steampunk playlist?!]  CrimsonAssassin- I have special eyes 16:26, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Rules
The rules are

The main goal of these rules are to keep the game realistic, every turn must be plausible and no-one can achieve world domination in ten turns


 * 1) Be nice if the mods don't have 100% agreement on anything i gets thrown out and redone if neccessary. (IE an algo)
 * 2) no ASB
 * 3)   If the community of players tells you no and majority of the mods agree this trumps rule 2 and you have to listen or be kicked out.
 * 4) Be plausible.
 * 5) THEME IS STEAMPUNK TRY TO STICK TO IT A turn is one day.
 * 6) Each turn is composed of actions, which can be militaristic, economic, diplomatic or constructive.
 * 7) Turns begin at 00:00 UTC. Do not edit past turns.
 * 8) Any Conquered lands must have a mod or a third party mediate a treaty on the talk page
 * 9) Keep in mind the linguistic effects of conquering and colonisation.
 * 10) Every five years a map is to be made. (no official mapmaker yet)
 * 11) Every map must be saved as a .png on the current map template.
 * 12) Each player will "call" a nation, this will be their main nation.
 * 13) The moderators of this game have the power to grant and regulate all technology for each state as well as regulate plausibility. They also have the right to create random yet plausible and fair events in any and every nation throughout the course of the game.
 * 14) Espionage is allowed and will be detailed later, there is a clear distinction between espionage and meta-gaming.
 * 15) Alliances and unions are allowed as is bargaining to achieve these, although remember to be plausible.
 * 16) If a nation is inactive then it is considered to have become isolationist and is fair game for conquering and attacking. However there will be resistance.
 * 17) There are supernational confederations (yet to be made). They function like alliances and can be broken and formed.
 * 18) You can commission privateers to raid a nation's shipping but they will reduce relations with the nation you hired them against.
 * 19) The game ends in the present year.
 * 20) Profile pages for your state are highly recommended. See here for an example.
 * 21) If you are new, you may start the game in the turn that you joined.
 * 22) No editing any past turns to contradict events which have already happened.
 * 23) Not everyone can have an industrialized, liberal, stable, peaceful nation.
 * 24) Unless your nation has been annexed in a war or vassalized as a result of war (see the mods for the last one), you may not switch nations (unless there is no plausible play for you).
 * 25) No new nation can go to war or be fought against for the first 5 turns it exists
 * 1) Unless your nation has been annexed in a war or vassalized as a result of war (see the mods for the last one), you may not switch nations (unless there is no plausible play for you).
 * 2) No new nation can go to war or be fought against for the first 5 turns it exists

Turns
Each nation has one turn (per year) during which it may do two of the following actions:
 * Work on the nation's military
 * Work on the nation's economy


 * Work on the nation's infrastructure


 * Expand the nation


 * Start or remain in a conflict.

There are no rules on what you can write about; it just has to be relevant to your nation ; be significant, plausible and appropriate.

Regional mods problem
I have noticed something about regional mods. For example. I as regional mod of South America, am in South America. The same situation is for other regional mods. I believe mods should not be the ones who are able to 'controll' their own continent as we all know what's happening in PMIII (Especially you Jbw).

That would be all

I agree. We don't need that.

I have to disagree. Mods are more likely to pay attention to posts within their region. We could do with a Mod of the Mods, who checks the Mods themselves for plausibility, although I do agree that mods should not do events for their region, that is not quite the same.

the other mods can always intervene. What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 19:19, February 21, 2014 (UTC)Of course the other mods in a hypothetical situation will be able to intervene, but the problem is, as I've noticed with PMIII, mods mostly pay attention not even to their continent, but to the posts that could affect them. My point is that we have offered our help as moderators and we should as such read ALL posts concerning the region we need to watch over. And Local, your idea does seem nice, but your idea gives the chief mod Jbw the responsibility to check all mod events and I believe he as a working person will not always have time to check everything and in my eyes it leaves too much space for someone to abuse

OK. Don't worry about it then. I guess I will have to read 6 turns rather than 3. Thank you for that, sky. Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

No problem Local, I'm always happy to make your job harder for you. That's what friends are for, right? My bad, I misread.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 17:54, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

For
CrimsonAssassin- I have special eyes 22:39, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion
Warman is not active enough to be China, nor do I believe he is particularly capable of running such a powerful nation very well. CrimsonAssassin- I have special eyes 22:39, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Could be differnent in this timeline, but hasn't China lost much of its power to the European powers? Also if we keep kicking people out of major nations, we won't have any major nations left.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 23:45, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

We shall see how it goes, if it's not working out we can ask him to move. Jbwncster (talk) 18:53, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion:
Ill let the mods make this.Spartian300 (talk) 11:45, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Isn't it too early for war? Jbwncster (talk) 18:46, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

NoSpartian300 (talk) 19:38, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

It IS too early for war, you have no military or economic expansion in your algos so it'd be illogical to declare a war, and I, as a regional mod for Europe believe you shouldn't be having any wars in the first couple of turns

It will probalby be like 3 or 4 turrns before you can begin delcaring war, but even then it would be illogical.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 20:20, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Fine.Spartian300 (talk) 21:56, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Motive System.
So with the algo, I noticed that we lack a motive system, or I haven't seen one at least. Are we going to be using the same one as AVA R-word or a diffrent one What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 20:22, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Can you post the motive from there and we can edit and modify it?  Jbwncster   (Talk)   03:37, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Possible motive:

 * Economic (Gains land, resources, etc): + 3
 * Defending territory not owned by nation more than 20 years: + 4
 * Defending territory not part of heartland but held for more than 20 years: + 5
 * Taking territory of similar culture but not part of nation: + 5
 * Aiding an Ally: + 5
 * Pre-emptive Strike against a nation rapidly building military forces: + 5
 * Taking back territory recently held by nation but since lost: + 6
 * Aiding Social/Moral/Ideological/Religious Kinsmen who are being oppressed: + 7
 * Attacking to enforce politcal hegemony: +7
 * Defending Heartland from attack that will not cripple/ destroy nation: + 8
 * Defending Core/heartland from possibly fatal attack + 9
 * Defending from attack that will wipe out nation and culture: + 10 (pre-nuclear era), + 15 (post-nuclear era)
 * Defending from nuclear armed nation that has a motive over 5 and has not yet used their weaponry: + 10
 * Defending from nuclear armed nation, regardless of motive, that has used said weaponry: + 15
 * Modifiers:
 * Non-democratic Government supported by people: + 4
 * Democratic government supported by people: + 5
 * Government not supported by people: - 10
 * WAR not supported by people (democratic) : - 3
 * WAR not supported by people (non-democratic): - 2
 * Troop Morale high (requires motive over 5, chance over 4, and stronger development scores in at least one category): + 5
 * Troop Morale low (any of the above: chance below 1, lower development scores in all categories, recent war penalty over 8): - 5
 * Fighting Guerilla War: -5 attacker, + 1 defender
 * Warning: Negative motive scores are possible!!
 * Lead nation's motive, not average.

Turns
The first turn will be extened til 5 AM UTC on the 25th because not everyone posted.  Jbwncster   (Talk)

The second turn and every other turn needs 1 mod event from each region that a mod is assigned.  Jbwncster   (Talk)

When will the next turn start?What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 02:46, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

The new turn was supposed to start already but no mod has submitted events on the mod page nor has posted any events on the game page <span style="background:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(#B8860B), to(#DEB887)); border:4px ridge grey; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 0em 0em;"> <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.5em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">Jbwncster   <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.0em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">(Talk)   05:06, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Spying
Should we create an algorithm to see if we can actually spy, if things are successful? <span style="background:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(#B8860B), to(#DEB887)); border:4px ridge grey; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 0em 0em;"> <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.5em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">Jbwncster   <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.0em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">(Talk)   19:19, February 28, 2014 (UTC) So, thsi is my fault.Spartian300 (talk) 19:42, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Change in Direction
I have decided that I cannot invest the needed time to play as France, a major world power. I am willing to play as the Rhine, however, seeing this as a decent nation which I am able to commit enough to make it work out well. With that said, France is open for claiming. 06:46, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Treaty of Cúcuta
This treaty's purpose is to define the amazonian borders of Brazil, Colombia and Peru, the treaty is supposed to be a free offer, counter offer and bargain process to establish accurate borders ingame (The map borders are currently wrong).

Peru would like to know which parts of the border are wrong specificly.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 01:29, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

Charter for businesses
Should we create charters for businesses? IE like how they will operate, nations they trade or travel to, things they will carry, locations they are based, nation agreements to use their land? <span style="background:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(#B8860B), to(#DEB887)); border:4px ridge grey; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 0em 0em;"> <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.5em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">Jbwncster   <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.0em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">(Talk)   17:32, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable.

People would set up a company page and add a charter to the page and link it to the talk page. Anyone good with infoboxes that could set up a business infobox if there isn't one? <span style="background:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(#B8860B), to(#DEB887)); border:4px ridge grey; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 0em 0em;"> <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.5em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">Jbwncster   <span style="text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px brown, 0 0 1em #000, 0 0 0.2em #0FF; color: white; font: 1.0em Cambria, serif; text-align: center; font-variant: small-caps;">(Talk)

List of Businesses
List your buisness here:

Preussia-America-Asia Trading Authority

Trans Territory Airlines