User talk:FirstStooge



Its Good!
Your timeline is good! I would contribute more, but at this point I realize I have overstretched myself. If I have time, you can count on me adding! :D Imperium Guy 21:34, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Warning
Your edits, and especially the movement of its name, to the Indonesian article in the Aztec Empire timeline were against the rules of this wiki. It's not the first ones I've seen out of you, so I have to leave this note.

Please refrain, despite whatever opinion you may have about it, from ever doing such a thing again.

Have a good evening.

Lordganon 21:54, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

wagakuni II
Thanks for the reply, i already saw your edit on your block about Wagakuni, honestly, i will like wagakuni to be a republican version of kimigayo, but that's your choice, anyway, i have a few suggestions for the melody anthem. Melody of the one of Italy maybe should be adequate as it is happy and will mark the apparition of a new era, also the melody of the west german national anthem since 1949 to 1952 ( yes, germany has had other official anthems appart of heil dir im siegerkranz and Das lied Der Deutschen/Deutschlandlied), that's it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBM87YK-BtM. These are only proposals, i will be honoured if you include it in your Myomi Republic timeline, and btw, can i contribute with proposals in the articles to your timeline?, for example, you put "Empire of Japan" Instead of "Republic of Japan" when you were refering to the republic.

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:Breizhcatalonia1993

I see you finally adopted the Kimigayo melody as the melody :D :D, and your lyrics are great, you have more inventive than I.

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:Breizhcatalonia1993

Internationale.
Yes, but Japanese official version of the internationale is very different to the one of the other countries because japanese communists never wanted to impose a dictatorship, just become integrated into the western democracy system and try to win elections, and if they win, they win, and if they loose, they cede the power. They are also nationalists and want the american bases to be keeped out of Japan, british communists are the same.Said that, i will gladly help to create another version of the internationale, but i will don't call it "Utopia" but "Kokusai" the japanese word for "International", what do you think? will be a second national anthem as the communist party its one of the components of the MKT? and the MKT is left-wing nationalist and the internationale is also used by not communist left wingers, or will be the anthem of the communist party inside the MKT?. By the way, I suggest you to refound the Japanese communist party, it is a very important party in actual japan and so it will be in a Republic of Japan.

no problem :)
Ok, it was just because "utopia" reminds me of the onew ideology that i hate, and i will not say the name and please don't say the name. anyway, no problem in not refounding the comunist party because it was absorved by the MKT :D. aBOUT THE PAPER OF THE NATIONALISTS I THINK IS GOOD, IT IS A DEMOCRACY IN WHICH ALL PARTIES ARE UNITED IN ONE BUT PRESENT SEPARATED TO THE ELECTIONS (sorry for caps) :(

great :D :D
yw, and it goes very well, I have now three articles made and the timeline, you could have a look at that and freely contribute, but please, propose that to me first. I need collaborators for the articles that are not written :D

not exactly :P
No, the nazi part is established and droves europe to the second world war, the only difference, as you said is that france is in the axis instead of japan, which is in the allies. Germany is occupied till 1949 but instead of being divided in two after 1949 its one and democratic, the federal republic of germany.

France ;)
It would be kind like fascist italy, and i know about that signature thing, but i don't know the procedure, let's try:

Breizhcatalonia1993 20:22, May 16, 2012 (UTC)Breizcatalonia1993Breizhcatalonia1993 20:22, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well, Now i'm focused in collaborating in new union timeline because i have kind of a mental thinking about what are my really ideas, but you are welcome to contribute, i will continue writting my timeline anyway, in which part do you will like to contribute? btw, what little islands in the pacific are part of japan?

Breizhcatalonia1993 10:08, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

OK, no problem, i think your timeline needs a great focusing, i can contribute too if you want, i mean the islands that are in the pacific bertween the lines.

Breizhcatalonia1993 12:05, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the clearing, btw, what do you think about about making Indonesia an autonomous region of Japan?, this video of when indonesia was invaded by japan and annexed letting indonesians to develop their nationalism, speak their language freely, and having a certain degree of autonomy, lets me to think it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvyLkdl1_s

Breizhcatalonia1993 15:44, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

:S

 * S sorry, i didn't know u where from indonesia, sorry if i have ofended you¡¡, what do you think about papua province?

Breizhcatalonia1993 16:06, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Papua
I mean what do you think about the independence of the papua province :)

Breizhcatalonia1993 11:52, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

keep the good work ;)
Hey, it is breizh back ;) I am following your timeline as one of the one I follow with more enthusiasm, and, if you want a collaboration, you can count with mine, will I can colaborate with some of your pages in Myomi Republic? btw, I need ideas for write the article about Japan in my timeline Rossiskaya Imperiya KD, in which the russian empire becomes democratic and in which i develop my ideas of socio-conservatism ( that's the mix of ideas I have in mind)

Breizhcatalonia1993 15:56, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

I will take the third with modifications.
I will take the third option, but Japan will become a republic during the middle 1920's but it will maintain its flag but with another seal, can I adopt your kofuki seal or you can suggest me any different seal?.

Breizhcatalonia1993 15:48, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Japanese Republic.
hey :D Just passing back. As I did made Japan a Republic, it would become friend with russia during the twenties, but I will also take your idea of Japan gaining manchuria and korea as its colony, but, they will treat them as equals and not as slaves with the firsts and as puppets with the second :D what do you think? I'll also make guam and the Mariana Islands to become Japanese.

please reply me back as nuke doesn't :P

CHANGED OF OPINION

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 11:22, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Myomi Question
Do the Myomi Armed Forces use the same rank insignia as in OTL Japan Self-Defense Forces?

General tiu (talk) 15:25, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Adopting Timelines
So long as it has that marker on it - and that one does indeed have it - you don't need to ask anyone.

That being said, you cannot change anything that is already there.

Lordganon (talk) 07:46, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Answer
http://www.anakv.com/Blog/index.php?job=art&articleid=a_20060818_221852

And it is very hard to find a proper Manchu-English or even a Manchu-Chinese dictionary nowadays.

By the way, where did you get that Myomi Japan emblem?

General tiu (talk) 01:26, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

More ethnic groups in Japan ( in your myomi republic timeline)
I think you should add Russians and Ryukyuans as ethnic groups in Japan, the first specially considering that with the Kuril Islands and part of the Sakhalin Island being mainly populated by Russians.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 22:09, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

UDSR
No problem ;)

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 22:53, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

and thanks :P

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 22:54, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Russia in Myomi Republic
Hello You can get your permission to create article about Russia in the Myomi Republic timeline

I sing Wagakuni ;)
So, I was bored and thought what I can do, and I had no other idea that start myself to sing wagakuni :D :D :D, so, I singed it while I recorded it, can I send you my singing of it?

Oh and I did love your idea of the Jewish homeland under Japanese control and Kwantung also as a Japanese Colony, if in this alternate history Hong Kong and Macau are still British and Portuguese they could be named the Colonial trio or found and organization for Colonial cooperation, called the tricolonial association or something like that.

Btw, in your timeline, what is of Israel? it is still founded but only sephardi jews live here? its still a Britsh colony?, and, the last question, can I have some position in the ranks of the MKT or of Myomi Republic?

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 08:54, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Banzai :)
Banzai Dai Myomi Minkouku¡¡¡ Banzai MKT¡¡¡ :D :D :D

Its OK, and all my questions have been answered, I will like that position to be in the Militburo.

but in your page there is no gathering to your twitter :P

And I would like to collaborate more in a more deep level in the Myomi Republic timeline, its the best althist that I have ever seen ;)

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 22:14, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

position and Israel :P
Yes, I definitely want that position, and oh, as a zionist, I do consider great your idea of making a smaller jewish state in which almost all population is jewish and then they are majority in their own country, and so the palestinians can have their own state and there is not any problem, btw, there will be settlments in that ATL Israel? Israel in your alternate history is very realistic and, as a future jew ( I am already genetically but I am catholic because my family has been since the 1400) but i have still not converted, I support this solution, which is already supported by political parties like yisrael beiteinu in OTL Israel.

Who will be the prime minister in that alternate history Israel? I can help you with that

And what do you think personally about Israel? does your ATL Israel borders coincide with the 1947 partition plan?

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 10:27, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

The one in the Militburo

I agree in what you think of Israel, they can coexist and both nations deserve to have a state, but the foreign policy of the israeli government is FULL of errors.

And now I give you some ideas for Japan in Myomi Republic:

1- Hirohito could be granted a state funeral due to the motive it was the last emperor to reign before the instatement of the Republic

2- The Japanese imperial family may not get exiled and may conserve their non- imperial titles if they have any.

3- Some people of the Japanese Imperial family could participate in the political life of the country as normal citizens, as Simeon II did in Bulgaria.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 18:42, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Please be kind and upload in vector
Greetings. For the past couple of days, you have been uploading several flags off of Wikipedia. Those files are in the vector (SVG) format on Wikipedia, however you have been uploading them in PNG. I have been correcting this by uploading the correct files. If it is not too much trouble, could be kind and upload any future flags off of Wikipedia in the vector format, as this is the standard used both there and on this site. Thank you. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:13, February 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * No need to apologize, you've done nothing wrong. Thank you for your response. If you need any help, I will be glad to help. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:22, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

I do appreciate you embracing vector maps (I even see you have begun to convert some of your timeline flags). However, please keep in mind that when you upload flags from Wikipedia, please upload that file. You recently uploaded files which were not from Wikipedia (but ones which you created, I assume).

I would also appreciate that you add the licensing when uploading them. Thank you. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:32, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Hey man. Well, would you be able to give me a brief outline of the timeline so far mate? I tried to look for the timeline page of Myomi Republic but I couldn't find it. I always think a timeline page for your timeline should always be on the top priority as it helps users see what is going on in your TL :)

So, if you could - I would then give you my opinion of how India could be. I always look up whenever someone talks about India on the wiki, lol :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:26, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

That's no problem. If you want, someone will fix up ur pages for you, but they are not that bad:)

Chandra Shekar Bose, by far. Nerhu was almost a failure. There is a book called Freedom at Mignight, and it has a quote, "India was burning, yet Nerhu was trying to become Prime Minister". Bose was far more nationalistic, and would have focused on infrastructure and the army.

Do you plan on having a Pakistan? Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:23, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

As much as I would want to say no, partition was unavoidable, and so was war. However, a consequence of Bose coming to power would be that he would never have let Punjab be partitioned, or let East Pakistan to be formed.

He also would not have appealed to the UN about Kashmir (which is what a stupid Nerhu did), which would have submitted like the other Rajas and Nawabs of British India. However, Pakistan would still lay claim to Kashmir and I would see a Pakistani invasion around 1949/50.

However, because Bose would be in power, he would ensure that the Pakistanis would make no gains in Kashmir and would be repulsed.

If you would like more about what I think, you can ask - cause I hope I'm making sense to you :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:59, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I do think that if u choose the part about India to go this way, then you will have to write about the rioting in Bengal (cuase its mainly muslims dominated), unless you have contraceptives coming to India earlier.

I'm not joking about the contraceptive thing. If they arrive in India earlier, then the government would be sure to implement them in Bengal first, as it is very overcroweded, so its population today in ur TL might be around 50-75 million compared to OTL 131 million. This would mean less muslims, but it would also mean that it would limit the overcrowding of cities in Bengal.

Just what I think :)

OR - If you don't mind, I would like to contribute to your TL. Would I get the honour of writing the India page? :O  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:40, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a world map drawn up somewhereof the myomi republic world? Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:22, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Grammar
No problem. I can fix all of your page, if you want. :)

                 "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  03:34, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Japan CoA
Hello. Is it okay if I could use your Japanese Coat of Arms from the Myomi Republic as a base to make a variant for the Japan in the Apocalypse 2012 time-line? -Kogasa  2013年2月24日 22:57:00 (JST)

Thanks. :]

By the way, how is the video game, anime, and manga industry of Japan in Myomi Republic? -Kogasa  2013年2月25日 00:01:22 (JST)

Ah okay. I was curious since in your time-line the samurai class never emerged, and in OTL there is plenty of media that featured samurais (like for example).

And thanks. ^^

Also, does Shinto exist in your ATL Japan or did it never take form? -Kogasa  2013年2月25日 00:46:26 (JST)

I have it
I do appreciate your concern for now uploading vector files and not duplicates, but please leave it to me to inform others about this. Thank you. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:22, March 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * No need to worry. I don't wish to be scaring off new users, so I would prefer bringing it up with them if needed.


 * Do you mean "dissolve" (I never heard the word "dissolute" before). Whether or not it dissolves is pretty much up to you (there is pretty much no right). However, I am not familiar with your timeline to give you a direction. All I know is Japan becomes a republic because Mongolia successfully invaded them (IIRC). I also came across that Stalin dies in the '20s. This would indeed make the USSR "less bloody," but probably less equipped defeat the Nazis, since Stalin helped industrialize and mobilize the nation. Not sure how that would work, but it depends on who takes over (and I don't know much about Kirov to answer that at the moment).


 * But if the USSR had an early "glasnost", than I wouldn't be surprised that the USSR remains in tact. As long as the economy is good and the people are happy, than the USSR could survive. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:52, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Like I said, it depends on who leads the USSR. It could be possible without the purges that it would have a better military, but it all depends. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:02, March 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem. I am always here to help. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:12, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Partition of Germany
Not impossible, but it likely would not be on the same terms or partitioned in the same divisions. Lordganon (talk) 13:06, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

i.e. not just East/West Germany, not divided as long as otl, the two divisions being entirely different in nature, you name it. Lordganon (talk) 13:29, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

No way you could make Poland that.

Poles won't join either the Nazis or Soviets unless forced into it.

Lordganon (talk) 09:29, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Finland, possibly - but unlikely. Poland? No way. Lordganon (talk) 12:18, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

The Ukraine isn't going to get independence.

And even if it did, it does nothing to stop Soviet ambitions towards Poland - it makes them worse. That ignores, of course, the fact that the Ukrainians and Poles would never have made any sort of arrangement. Around half the territory of either state would be claimed by the other - at best. Add to that that Piłsudski advocated the idea of Intermarium - basically that Poland control the former Polish-Lithuanian Empire.

Lordganon (talk) 07:40, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Anytime. Lordganon (talk) 12:10, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

USA and CSA
19:16, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The only way the CSA could win is if they won battles and pushed far north. Lincoln was only assassinated because the CSA lost.
 * 2) However, if you do make the CSA win, guarantee that World War I and World War II could be changed entirely. If the US joins one side, the CS will almost definitely join the other side, and vice versa.
 * Yes, this could very easily happen, especially if the US is more agressive in taking Oregon Country. Newfoundland will be a bit harder, and could require a war.

Re: Yugoslavia Question
How's it going.

Well if the USSR becomes democratic prior to WWII (IIRC from your timeline), than most likely they would not back a communist state there (i.e., no Tito). This would probably leave open the return for the monarchy, or they could follow Italy and eventually adopt a new republican government.

Not too sure what to say about whether or not it would collapse like OTL. But if a democratic government is adopted (either monarchy or republic), and the demographic differences are look at carefully (religion, historic ethnic groups), than I assume it could last intact.

Hope that helps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:11, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Lee's Malaysia
Hello, it's me, Hlanus. I wanted to say thank you for all your comments. You've given me a lot to think about on my timeline. I want to ask you something: I am trying to figure out how to proceed from Sukarno's death in regards to the timeline. I am asking you because you have more detailed knowledge of Indonesia than I have and I would really appreciate it if you could help me. The timeline, thus far, is that Indonesia is in a political and economic crisis from the recent rebellions and Sukarno's command economy. Now his death has left a power vacuum and the three main factions, the Islamists, Communists, and the military are trying to find a replacement. In our timeline, Suharto replaced Sukarno and steered the country vehemently toward the West and against the Communists. Since in my timeline, Sukarno retained power for another ten years, as the assassination of the officers that triggered his resignation and the purge of the Communists did not occur due to the rebellions, I doubt that Suharto would take over, but I could be wrong. Please help me out. Thanks for your time.

Hlanus (talk) 15:36, March 29, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

Thank you very much for your input. I see that I have a lot of work to do. I was planning to have Indonesia and Malaysia here be a kind of miniature Cold War, standing in for the US and the USSR respectively, with Indonesia either collapsing into a bunch of different nations or reforming under a Gorbachev-like leader. But, if that is not feasible, then I will simply change it. What POD would you recommend for Indonesia to be more stable in the future? Perhaps if Malaysia and Indonesia were to become allies instead of rivals? Please answer as soon as possible. Thanks for your time.

Hlanus (talk) 05:28, March 30, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

Thanks for the input. Just one question: if the coup attempt at Jakarta were to fail, how would it affect Malaysia, if at all? If there was no effect, then I simply need to add another POD. But if it were to have a more widespread effect, then I might have to rewrite the timeline. Please clarify. Thanks for your time.

Hlanus (talk) 06:19, March 30, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

Just for clarification, I meant the POD in Malaysia.

Also, I did some research on the coup attempt you described and I thnk it was led by Nasution, protesting the People's Representavie Council's entanglments with the military and wanted them dismissed. I need to create a plausible reason why he chose to not make the coup attempt. I really appreciate all this.

Hlanus (talk) 06:40, March 30, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

OK. I changed the Point of Depature to include Onn Jaafar successfully opening up the UMNO to non-Malay members and having Lee and Hilmy being his early supporters. The rest is the same, but I will change it to include the abortion of the October 17 coup attempt. However, I am not sure how to change the page title. Do you know how to do that? Thanks for your time.

Hlanus (talk) 18:11, March 30, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

Progressives
Well, I must say that Roosevelt will strongly press to enter the war, bu LaFollette and the Congress will hold him back. So unless one of the sides in the war launches a direct attack on America, the USA is staying out of the war. :)

18:39, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes. Indeed. And everyone will be furious. :D

02:07, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yes again.

02:25, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

LOL OK. Happy Holidays to you too! :P

03:04, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Y2K Apocalypse
It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.

I'm like the English professor in the Men's Room:

I don't write on the walls.

I just correct the spelling and grammar.

EoGuy (talk) 14:50, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re:I need some of your advices
I am more than happy to help. Unfortunately, I am not an expert on Nazis, nor have I ever heard of Gregor Strasser. But from what I have been able to quickly read about Strasser and, here I was I can make out.

Strasser appeared to be anti-capitalist (tough not communist). Maybe this may help the German-Soviet relations.

While he seems to be antisemitic, I can't say how he would handle the Jewish population. If he is liberal enough in this regard, it may go no further than intimidating the Jews and maybe implementing an apartheid-like situation in Germany (or pressuring them to leave).

The creation of modern day Israel was mostly Britain's doing. The only thing Germany did in establishing the state was that it encouraged Jews to get the hell out of Germany (or else). At the most, Germany would only agree and encourage the emigration of German Jews out of Germany.

Aside from Finland and parts of Poland, the USSR weren't too keen on going to war with Germany. So long as Germany stays out of the USSR, Stalin would probably just leave them alone.

The Americans were mostly isolationist during the war, but FDR was looking for any excuse to go to war. When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, war was inevitable... against Japan. The main reason the US went to war against Germany after Pearl Harbor was that Hitler declared war on the US shortly afterwards. If Germany doesn't declare war (and ignores Japan [an ally]), the US would mostly leave Germany alone and focus on the Pacific.

Germany and the USSR did have a that only failed because Hitler betrayed the USSR in the end.

But in the long run, it depends on how Strasser handles Germany. All the allies (UK, US, France, USSR) didn't want war. Prior to WWII, Hitler was able to reassert German power, rematerialized the Rhineland, and annex German-speaking Austria. When Hitler demanded the Sudetenland (part of Czechoslovakia), Britain and France (more or less) told the Czechs that they were on their own (which pressured them to give up the Sudetenland). When Hitler eventually took all of Czechoslovakia, the western powers weren't going to play around anymore, and war began when Hitler invaded Poland.

I can't speak for Strasser, but if he is anything like Mussolini or Franco (or Stalin for that matter), he may go only as far as he can. I would guess that the annexation of Austria may be as far as he may go.

Sorry I can't be of too much help, but I don't know much about Nazi history. If it helps, try giving LG a note (he may be able to help you out more than I can). Also, try these links out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:01, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad I could help out, and wish you luck on your project. I also hope you don't mind me asking, why did you say "Happy Thanksgiving"? I am merely curious. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:45, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Re:SVG version
Hey, FirstStooge, sorry I've been really busy this week, but I should be able to make the flag into SVG format by this weekend. Regards, ChrisL123 (talk) 23:46, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Zheng China
Hello I just have a few questions for you. I used the Sultanate of Malacca in my timeline, but someone said that it was not around at the time, the early and mid 1400s. Was it called something else, because all the research I have done says it was. Also, is the timeline plausible, or am I way off? If you have answers, please post on the talk page on Colonization and Conquest (Zheng China). Hlanus (talk) 02:35, April 26, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

Please Clarify ur message on my page im new here so i dont not know ho the thing works

None, Does it need to have a Timeline ?

Hello, Hlanus again. I have a question about Indonesian history, specifically Java and Borneo. I understand that both were ruled by the Majapahit up until the mid 1400s or so, but what I am curious about is Borneo after the Majapahit began to decline. All I have researched is Brunei, but what I want to know is about southern Borneo and what cities and kingdoms there were back in the 1450s. I am asking because on my Timeline 1424-1500 (Zheng China) page, which is basically a redo of my previous work, Zheng Tingxian is searching for cities along the Spice Trade routes to build trading posts in, but he wants to avoid Java due to the (from what I can gather) deeply divided state, with the Majapahit competing with the Sultanate of Ceribon and others for supremacy. I may be wrong here, so please correct me if I am. Thanks for your time. Hlanus (talk) 00:02, May 3, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

So is Majapahit still largely in control of Java? If so, then would it make economic sense to establish trading posts there? I will make the necessary corrections. Thanks for your help. Hlanus (talk) 03:03, May 3, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

I was not sure about Japan. I planned to have it become a more expansionistic power than otl because China's stronger naval and political influence would reduce the threat Europeans pose to Japan. At the same time, however, that same strength would deter Japan from trying to conquer Korea, because China has a stronger navy here and would be of great help to Yi Sun-Sin in his fight against Japan. I figured that instead Japan would expand into Indonesia and Alaska, but I was not sure. You think this is ok? Hlanus (talk) 17:45, July 2, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

I would appreciate a partner, but just one ground rule: first off, do not do any editing except for spelling without consulting me first. I tried working with a couple of others before and they really screwed up the timeline, including a Ming-Vijayanagara war and it took me a long time to fix the damage. If you can work with these, then welcome aboard. Thanks for your time. Hlanus (talk) 16:44, July 3, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

I perfectly understand. I just wanted to be clear after my previous experiences.

As for Japan's expansionism, I think the Ryukyu islands will be a target, but not so much Taiwan at this point. In this TL, China has a larger and stronger navy, and exerts greater influence on SE Asia, with her sphere of vassals covering Korea, Vietnam, Sumatra, Malaya, Laos, Cambodia, and the north Philippines. Taiwan would fall under that sphere more or less by default. Japan will probably avoid trying to conquer Taiwan until the Chinese undergo their dynastic transition. Until then, they would be best to avoid antagonizing the Ming. With their larger and stronger navy than otl, they can cut off Japanese troops from supplies and reinforcements, as Yi Sun-sin did OTL. Other than that, they should have a relatively free reign in East Asia. Hlanus (talk) 16:51, July 4, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

I think you're right, and I like where this is going, but this chain of events will occur years down the line. Japan is still in the Sengoku Period, so there will probably be no expansion until after Toyotomi Hideyoshi unites the country, then he'll have the resources, the stability, and the soldiers necessary for overseas expansion. I think that by 1600, Japan should control the Ryukyu Islands and Hokkaido at the least, then Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands by 1610 at the latest, then the peninsula by 1620. After that, Alaska should be next, unless the Russians decide to stir up trouble. I predict that Manchuria will be a major point of conflict between Japan, China, and Russia after  1600. Hlanus (talk) 18:18, July 5, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

One thing just came up win regards to Japan's expansion in my timeline: the Ryukyu Kingdom, which ruled the Ryukyu Islands, held dual tributary status with Ming China and Japan, and I am wondering if this would have had any effect on Toyotomi's plans for invasion. Just want to get it right. Hlanus (talk) 18:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)Hlanus

Re:No Stalin, no Soviet?
While Stalin played a part in the establishment of a communist Russia, it was primarily Lenin's doing in creating the USSR. Stalin didn't play as much a role in the USSR's establishment. Stalin's only contribution was to make the new nation darker. Depending on the exact year Stalin dies would also play a role (as the USSR was established in 1922). My guess is that Stalin would have helped out enough by the time of his death, and an new leader would take charge. Who that would be I can't say for sure. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:49, May 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, Lenin was becoming ill by this time (he will die two years after the establishment of the USSR). As I told you before, I don't know anyone specifically who would succeed Lenin. Why not give these forums a try. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:06, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sergei Kirov seems alright. I wouldn't worry to much about the fact that Stalin gave a good word for him. Stalin treated Khrushchev negatively, and he became leader after his death.

What I may suggest is that after Lenin's death, a series of leaders attempt to take control, but fail to hold onto power. Kirov would than rise from the chaos. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:27, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Missing image
Yes, I have been informed about this. I purposely left those links there because there is really no point in replacing them in the way you are asking.

Allow me to explain. Prior to 2012, the welcome sign that is automatically added to the talk pages of new users was added code for code, not a template that is used today. During this time period, that would mean that that particular link was added to every user page on this site, which is actually over 1,500 pages that would have to be edited.

I came to the conclusion that since the vast majority of these users are no longer here or were one-edit users, there is no real reason to fix them. What I have been doing was manually adding the new template to every user page I have come across.

I do appreciate you trying to help out, but if you want my advice, don't worry about this one. Unless you happen to have a bot, it really isn't worth it. As for the flag in question, I believe it was a duplicate of File:Union flag 1606 (Kings Colors).svg. The old template also had several other duplicate flags which are also on too many pages to really worry about. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:54, May 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * I had to convince my mouse I was not going to do it in order for it to come back. XP


 * If you personally wish to go and manually replace them, than be my guest (I won't stop you). However (if I may), I would strongly request that you simply replace the old template instead of just that one link. As I have said before, there were several other files which are included, as well as the rule links having changed. Just remember to keep the signatures and dates the same (like this). Good luck. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:21, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

No worries. If you wish, I will also help out on this. Definitely two people can get it done faster than one. I will also start tomorrow on some pages. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:33, May 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * No need to be sorry. Not like we are on a deadline or anything. Congrats on your Graduation. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:32, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Long time!
Hey man! Indeed, long time no chat! Well I would like to start off with another story, lol.

There was a time - one and a half years ago, when another member came to odds with LG. The way he came to odds with him are very similar to Mscoree actually. They had great arguments, and the person in question - Kunarian, got blocked for a while.

At that point, call this deja va because I will (lol), I proposed the same thing. But the comments are recieved told me why I should not go ahead - you should read them, it will explain why it will not work that well. What I would like to tell you with the TSPTF is, that we do not hold an iron grip over the wiki, nor do we run the wiki like a police state. True, newer users are looked upon with more cautious eyes than what used to be the case, but we still are a pretty friendly place to be. That is the reason we actually rank 4th in the Wikia category for lifestyle!!

LG can be a pretty... dismissive person at times, and if you think so - there are dozens more active editors who can help you out. Me, for example, can help you out with your India problems in your TL.

LG does not abuse his power. That is a very common misconception about users. His dismissive tone does make it seem like it, but the reason is the him and Nuke take most of the shit some trolls throw up. They do most of the blocking, and that makes it seem like he abuses his power. I haven't quite got into the whole blocking thing yet, but when I do - it will lighten the load on them significantly.

Now, this does not mean there are not occasions that shake the wiki to the core. Arguments which involve him and some user might spiral out of hand and cause a lot of havoc on the wiki. This has happened quite a few times, and the reason it builds up is due to the fact that none of us actually intervene before it is too late. That is more to do with the attitude of the wiki and myself, not wanting to get involved - and that is a real shame.

Now, I'll be honest with you. I never thought I would be defending LG, not becuase I hate him or anything - I usually do not get involved unless it is nessecary. Yet what I have responded here with is all pretty true. So I hope I answered your suggestion, and I am sorry for the slightly late response - I just noticed your message now! :o  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:07, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Furusato
The title translates to "hometown" and the song is basically about an adult who lives away from her/his hometown missing her/his family and friends. -Kogasa  2013 July 17, 19:59 (CET)

wagakuni melody
and what melody it uses now? :D

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 20:51, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

ts nice ;)
It is a nice melody and more according to the actual republic of Japan, btw, I was thinking, if you have skype I can add you, btw, look my replacement of the Union of Sovereign Democratic Republics by "A New Russia" Zhrinovskiy takes over and told me what do you think and if you want to colaborate.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 21:36, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Doubts about Russia
A VoIP free program

What's ASB?

Russia is a republic, but, as history proves, empires can be republics (Germany 1918-1937), and it is a blend of socialist policies of the soviet union plus ultranationalism, that's what OTL Liberal Democratic Party of Russia defends.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 09:09, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

ASB LOL
if great white south is an ASB, my alternative history career is saved. ( i mean i have no problem with my new russia AH being and ASB), as for the meaning, i take the german meaning to russian

17:58, August 4, 2013 (UTC)Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk)

russian empire
now its a monarchy.

russian empire
now its a monarchy.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 19:12, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Divided Japan
It is still a WIP, but I have been focused on other timeline. Why do you ask? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:39, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for notifying me of that typo. I fixed it for you. As for any future edits, I would prefer to wait until the timeline is defined enough before I accept any outside help. But you are welcome to bring up any suggestions to the main talk page for future discussion. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:23, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

A bit overdue!
Ok. Now I do reckon this is a bit overdue, but I think you would be a great new addition to the TSPTF. Considering the huge majority of things you have brought to our attention, I really do think you deserve to be there. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:39, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Overdue: too long awaited; needed or expected for some time: Improvements in our highway system are long overdue. That is from dictionary.com and you indeed deserve a spot. All that is required from you is a paragraph in the Discussions section stating you accept the nomination and you will have to say why you will be a good constable. I really cannot see many objecting to you becoming constable. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:55, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Congrats!

You do deserve it. Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his REAL sig. (talk) 15:41, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Language Help
Thank you for notifying me of his absence, and your responses to my questions. If it came to it, I would use Sheng, but I am mainly looking for a four-letter word Romanized, to go with Yuan, Ming, and Qing. More importantly, I'm trying to stray from using religious affiliation, as this dynasty is relatively modern, and I honestly think that the people would object to the new dynasty being referred to as "sacred" or "holy", since the concept of divine right will completely contradict the very means and concepts in which this dynasty is being founded upon.

Are there no four-letter words that have earth or metal as a theme? I guess using a word representing the modernity of this new regime could be acceptable-I think I found Xian has in some way something to do with "new", but I'm not sure.

Anyway, thanks for the help in this. It's much appreciated.

Canuck2012 (talk) 00:33, August 12, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Thank you, thank you, tahnk you!

Not only does that fit, but it also has a weirdly aesthetic look to it!

Out of curiousity, how is it pronounced? Is the j pronounced like the j in Beijing, or a French j as I call it, or is it like a ch?

Canuck2012 (talk) 01:17, August 12, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Do Quan, Jing, and Xian have any connections with anything earth-related?

Canuck2012 (talk) 21:07, August 14, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

I'm not sure. When I looked into it, their were dozens of different ones for the different ways to pronounce them :/

Canuck2012 (talk) 19:44, August 19, 2013 (UTC)Cancuk2012

Infoboxes?
I noticed that you seem to make your own infoboxes for various things, particularily the one on your profile, and I'm curious on how you do it?

Canuck2012 (talk) 01:23, August 12, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Okay, thanks!

Canuck2012 (talk) 01:41, August 12, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Re:Flag of Korea
How so? I would be more than happy to help, but you will have to be more specific about the issue. Also I do not know which file you are talking about. Can you give me a link? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:23, August 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Forgive me, but I still don't know what your issue is. If you want me to correct something on Wikipedia for you than I am not sure why you are coming to me. You are more than welcome to create an account there and bring this up for discussion in that article's talk page.


 * If you wish for me to create a flag for you then I would be willing to (since it appears that the flag you are requesting is the Korean flag with the yin-yang symbol being sideways).


 * I know little about Korea, so you will have to be more clearer on what you want my help on. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:49, August 13, 2013 (UTC)



Okay then, pretty easy to fix. I believe this is what you wanted. I also corrected the I Ching so it matches the flag used on here. If you need me to correct anything, please let me know. Hope you like it. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:01, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hope this is the correct patter. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:44, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Glad I could help out. Also if its helps, there is a program called Inkscape that will allow you to edit vector files. It may help out the next time you wish to edit a flag on your own. But I will always be here to help out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:13, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions for my TL
I haven't updated my Eastern Awakening timeline, do you have ideas for the TL?

General tiu (talk) 02:19, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for blocking the guy who messed with my 51st State timeline. The Doctor is in... 16:01, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

I think I could borrow some ideas here...
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?352974-An-Empire-to-Call-Our-Own

What to do you think?

General tiu (talk) 20:15, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Wow
Stooge, how did you create this flag:

Its amazing. I really need to know, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:36, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for reverting World War I (Central Victory) to it's correct edit.Central Victory Creator 21:52, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

How about these scenarios?
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=2889680&postcount=1438

One is that the Americans reacted must faster in the General Sherman incident. This caused a wakeup call on the Koreans and forced them to modernize. To their surprise and glee, they have seized more territory than Japan did. As a result, Japan is planning to join the Central Powers.

The second one is this...

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=287214&page=2

Korea instead of calling the Chinese to suppress the Donghaks called the Russians instead. The Sino-Japanese War may be butterflied, perhaps Japan might seize Taiwan during the Boxer Rebellion. The Russo-Japanese War turned to be a draw, and in the end, benefitted Korea as that country seized Manchuria.

The third one is this...

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/257530-alternate-history-scenario-with-a-side-of-tanks/#top

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/257530-alternate-history-scenario-with-a-side-of-tanks/page__st__20

In this scenario, An's assassination of Ito failed, and the Japanese decided to be content of Korea as a puppet state.

The fourth one is mine. It involves a failed assassination of Queen Min. While King Kojong fled to the Russian legation, Min fled to the Austro-Hungarian legation. Her influence causes Austria-Hungary to be involved in a secret alliance, and just as Japan is planning to annex Korea, Austria in 1904 suddenly protested. Japan won in the Russo-Japanese war as in OTL, but avoided Korea. The fact that to repay the favor, Korea joins the Central Powers. It attacked the decrepit Qing empire in 1910-11, causing its downfall. However, World War I happened and ended like in OTL. The difference is that the Korean Navy intercepted the Anglo-Japanese fleet heading towards Jiaozhou Bay and with sheer brutality, managed to conquer Manchuria, the Amur Region, and adjacent Japanese islands and even Taiwan. The Koreans got too arrogant, however, and the attack on the Philippines in 1916 was the cassus belli for the US, rather than the Lusitania incident, to enter World War I. Korea's monarchy was sacked and was only saved by being occupied by the US.

General tiu (talk) 02:30, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Constable in the TSPTF. This allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a constable, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.

When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here. Since you are only a constable and do not have the power to delete or block, do not feel obligated to sign up for any duties you do not have the powers to do. Please inform and respect those in a position to do so if you see a problem that involves a needs for either of those things.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon (talk) 13:26, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

You don't need permission, lol. Do whatever you need to do. Lordganon (talk) 12:57, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Don't forget to sign up for responsibilities on the TSPTF page. Lordganon (talk) 09:52, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Ah; sorry. Will check history next time.

~ S 00:53, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, you might be interested in reading this little piece on Islam in Korea. Came across it just a minute ago, and remembered your blog about the idea. Hope this helps out. Oh, and congrats on getting your badge! :D Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:13, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh wow! That one was really a fail! I did check the history, but I checked the character count and not the username!

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  14:03, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Completely forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. I've been busy getting ready for school all week.

                "Fear the power   <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier" title="Bvlog"> of the Dark Side of the Force."  15:17, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

You recent post
You have nothing to worry about as this was not a duplicate. A duplicate is a file that already existed here (which this one I believe doesn't).

Sorry to hear that you had trouble uploading this file. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 14:58, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Image Problem
If I can't upload the duplicated files, then what files can I upload? Tell me where to get the existing images and you will be very appreciated.

Help
would you mind giving me a hand with my timelines i like what youve been doing wth your own timeline Myomi republic and could use the help of a senior alt historian. would you mind looking over my timelines A Darker Place and The Lusitania Lives and roviding me with some advice here and there, speacially in the east asia parts it would be a great help. Nkbeeching (talk) 14:23, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, the first one wa a typo, Daimyo Ieyashu as in the first tokugawa shogun, he was considered the third great unifier in OTL after Toyotomi and Nabunaga.

Without an efficient admiral to lead the navy is was unorganized and was soon comeendeered by the Japanese with the major ports under japanese hands the navy was either burned or absorbed which allowed the japanese to have an advantage over the chinese navy later on.

so your enjoying the timelines so far?

Nkbeeching (talk) 10:38, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

um ok well from what ive read about the Korean leaders at the time the most efficient one was yi the rest were largely incompetent, and without him they were toast, i put in the timeline that what the japanese didn't capture in the ports during the initial invasion were sent north and would attempt to harrass the japanese fleet. but one way or another without Yi's movements during the first japanese invasion OTL the koreans never would have been able to turn back the tide of the war, since they were caught completely offguard thats why the japanese first invasion was so successful if they are able to maintain their hold on the south of the peninsula and secure enough supplies korea was as good as gone.

what does the Lusitania tl need?

Nkbeeching (talk) 11:59, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

alright ive slightly adjusted the pod and the start, i read that Yi had no experience in naval warfare before the war but he had been fighting jurchen in the north so he takes an arrow by ccident in 1583 and Toyotomi hires two portuguese galleons which would give an initil advantage

Nkbeeching (talk) 12:17, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

thanks and i plan on making nation pages after im finished the timeline. same with small chapters for different characters. Nkbeeching (talk) 15:08, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Can I
Make the page for the Prussian Democratic Republic in Myotomi Republic. Octavian, Hail Marius (Play With Oct!) 23:28, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

An Apology
Wow... it seems so long ago since I last logged in. Each day I was away, my interest waned, and I became more and more upset over what had happened.

What I had intended as a conversation about why Islam is wrong (or right), turned into my getting all upset at you and your faith.

I am very sorry, so I hope that you accept this apology. I hope we can begin to work  together in the future, as you are a great TL author.

Thank You For Understandiing,

Re:Happy Birthday
Thanks, Stooge, I appreciate it! ;) --NFSreloaded (talk) 13:40, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

I am thinking of revising the Eastern Awakening TL...
It will stil have a point of divergence in Korea, but now, instead of a surviving Korea, it will be a United Northeast Asia centered in Korea and Japan, called the East Asian Union.

I got this idea from here...

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kaikaihanno/archives/30771463.html

The Japanese blogger criticized this post from a Korean(!) blogger about an alternate history of East Asian Union. But the idea beckoned for me...

The idea is that it will have a government similar to Malaysia today, where the Monarchs are rotated from the rulers. Korea will have its Meiji but then had to fight Japan. After Japan was defeated, they create the East Asian Union to fight against Communist China and Mongolia.

Do you like this idea?

General tiu (talk) 17:26, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re:French flag on my TL
The file I removed was a duplicate. The uploaded has uploaded many outdated files (though this was well before I became active in duplication) and the naming showed that it was just a vague flag of France (simply a duplicate).

You are more than welcome to use a different color scheme for your timeline (which you appear to have already uploaded), provided that the file name is linked to your timeline (thereby not being a direct duplicate). Other than that it appears okay. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:02, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Mustard
Actually, no one would have really minded your used of that language. It was a troll anyway. But using mustard is fine with me First lol. Plus, I have to commend you on the number of anons you have brought to the attention of the TSPTF who have been mucking about with the wiki. Thank you for your help! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:37, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

NFSreloaded
No, he's not part of the team. There's been what amounted to half-offers before, but because of a few past problems he's had, it's never actually went through. Won't either, quire frankly. Lordganon (talk) 10:42, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Question
I noticed that the other day you voted as an objector to my constable nomination. Please note that this is not an attempt to badger you in any way, but I am curious as to how I could improve my performance in the future. I apologize for categorizing your images before, but I have since ceased categorizing any images belonging to you, and have adopted a personal policy of asking users first or finding examples from their timeline as to how they prefer to have their images categorized. So for that I thank you. I look forward to your response and thank you for your time.

Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 16:30, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that as I have conflicts with TSPTF members, they have conflicts with me. I contacted Lordganon and asked him if we could work the disagreements out in a civil manor and he called me mentally disabled. I have recently sought out the help of several mediators just to get an appointment with Lordganon, so we'll see how that works out. Mscoree (talk) 00:05, November 23, 2013 (UTC)