Talk:Congress of Vienna (Map Game)

I see a few flaws with the premise of the map game:

Firstly, there is no way on Earth that Sweden would let Norway stay independent after the Napoleonic Wars. There are two reasons for this, 1; Norway wasn't independent, it was owned by Denmark, and 2; Basically the whole reason why Bernadotte (AKA Charles XIV John of Sweden) joined the Coalitions against Napoleon was in order to get Norway from Denmark, which was a fairly staunch supporter of Napoleon.

Secondly, why does the Ottoman Empire own parts of Southern Italy? It makes no sense that the Ottomans would be rewarded with parts of Southern Italy during the Vienna Congress. Firstly, Naples was the rightful property of the Kingdom of Sicily, which had been a strong supporter of the Allies during the Napoleonic Wars. The reason the Congress awarded Naples to Sicily otl was because they were repaying it for it's help during the wars. Also, Italy is strongly Catholic, and would not appreciate being ruled by Muslim Sultans.

What would happen to Belgium if it wasn't attached to the Netherlands?

Sardinia would most certainly NOT be annexed to the Hapsburgs, because it too had been a strong supporter of the Coalitions against Napoleon, and was rewarded by having Piedemont returned to it.

Now, by FAR the biggest problem with this is number 9. "Scotland transferred to Norway". How? Why? Scotland was (and still is) an integral part of the United Kingdom. The UK was the greatest enemy of Napoleon. It was the ONLY country to be constantly at war with him during the Napoleonic Wars. The whole point of the Congress of Vienna was to return Europe to the status quo of before the French Revolution and subsequent Napoleonic Wars. That consisted of reviving countries absorbed by Napoleon's Empire, and rewarding the countries which had fought against France. Britain was also one of the powerbrokers at te Congress. Why on Earth would Scotland be annexed to Norway? Britain wouldn't allow it for one thing, and, again, Norway isn't independent.

The thing about Denmark acquiring the Baltic is also impossible. Denmark had supported Napoleon, and was actually lucky it was allowed to continue to exist as an independent nation. The Baltic belonged mainly to Russia, which had fought Napoleon so valiantly in 1812, and had been the driving force behind the push to Paris. Russia was also represented at the Congress by  the Tsar himself. Alexander, who had given so much of his own and his empire's energies to defeating Napoleon, would not accept, under any circumstances, any part of his beloved Russia tp be annexed to anyone, especially not a supporter of Bonaparte.

There are, however, some changes which are genuinely good. Poland not being annexed to Russia, for example. That would have caused some hard feelings on Russia's part, which would cause some interesting tenstions and changes in the years to come. More of the German states being attached to Prussia (so long as Bavaria, Wurrtemburg, Brunswick and Hannover remained independent) would possible make the unification of Germany a lot faster than it was otl. Finland being returned to Sweden would also irk Russia quite a bit, and could possibly make Russia less cooperative with the western European powers.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I sound rude, but the problems I pointed out are quite big ones, and made the premise of the game implausable. There is, however, as I said, also good stuff, and if you build on that, I'm sure the game would be much more plausible and better for it. Callumthered (talk)