Talk:Fractured America (Map Game)

Sorry to be the one to do this, but there is a rule prohibiting ATLs, Map Games, or other scenarios, based off of published material. CrimsonAssassin 17:49, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Crim is correct. If you'd have actually waited until hearing back from me, I'd have even told you such. Lordganon 20:31, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Signed Up
Since this game was redone, I decided to sign up for it as China. I think having 7 moderators is excessive, a moderator-player ratio would be better. Maybe have it be for every 2-3 players, 1 moderator? Also, since it is past 10/22, do we just sign up now? LurkerLordB 20:31, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Map
The map is a little small and pixelated. Mind if I get a clearer map to use? ChrisL123 21:16, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah,the Ethiopian Empire needs to be on the map. It should be southeast of the Ottoman Empire in Africa, and should encompass almost all of OTL Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Northern Somalia. Thanks. Azecreth 15:13, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

So... when do we start?
Are we going yet? Are we still waiting for people? Is it inactive before it even started?

Also, do we have just one person in charge of the map, or can anyone edit it? I would volunteer to help out with it. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 05:15, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Should we start now? I will post something to get it started I guess... LurkerLordB 02:31, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Philippines
Who gets the Philippines TTL? USA or CSA? Godfrey Raphael 12:30, October 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * It still belongs to Spain. It didn't change hands until the Spanish-American War in 1895. But I personally believe the US and CS would have more important things on their plate right now than attacking colonies on the other side of the ocean. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 15:30, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep!82.2.72.108 15:15, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...
This is already getting implausible. How did Mexico get taken over in one or two turns? That's ridiculous. I like Civil War map games, but they tend to get infamously implausible. 166.248.68.173 02:36, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know, I was wondering that myself. However, at the time, Mexico was in a social state of collapse (with French troops fighting to try to establish a monarchy and that), and I would see the US and CSA making sure that France couldn't get a strong foothold in North America that can be used against them later. I would let it stand for now. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 05:23, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's just it: the French and the US got along really well. Nobody in Europe participated in the Civil War because it would disrupt alliances, trade, and all sorts of things. Also, even if Mexico is in disarray, the US invading would break alliances, not to mention capturing it in less than a year is wickedly implausible. CrimsonAssassin 18:48, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Americans would also NEVER annex Mexico. There was too much opposition in 1848, that's why it didn't happen, and there would only be slightly a bit less now. It would also cause international havoc which the USA would never want. Fed (talk) 00:51, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah just to let you guys know, I'm joining this game as the Netherlands VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 15:48, October 30, 2011 (UTC).

Right, to make this game more plausible, we should have a war algorhythem as well as the stablity thing used in Principa Moderni included. We should also have more mods for plausiblity checks and dates/guidelines for specific reaserch, with countries which are millitaristic having more millitaristic reaserching capability etc. Also what should we do about the US thing over Mexico? Imperium Guy 20:53, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Stability probably would be hard to do, as that requires someone to do a lot of effort. Since France had partially taken over Mexico in real life, I would say that it was realistic to win the invasion, but all three nations would probably have to continue putting down resistance for the next several years. LurkerLordB 22:35, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why were the two new turns added? We haven't finished this one yet. Doctor261 12:13, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I do think 1865.5 was yesterday, so it would be 1866 today.

Alright. Deleting the half-year.

Doctor261 13:06, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Is It Too Late?
I just wanted to know if it's too late to sign up, I would like to play as Brazil, FYI. Ownerzmcown 14:02, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead, mate. It's not too late. ;) Doctor261 14:02, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Complex
This is getting complex. People should only post diplomacy where they have posted their general thing for the half year. Otherwise, it would get really complicated!! :/ Imperium Guy 19:36, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

What do ye' mean? Doctor261 19:58, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Right, so my method would be However, the way its now going is Country3 thing: completely different to anything going on.
 * Country1 thing:
 * Country2 Diplomacy:
 * Country1 Diplomacy:
 * Country3 Diplomacy etc...
 * Country2 thing:
 * Country3 Diplomacy:
 * and so on
 * Country1 thing:
 * Country2 thing:
 * Country4 diplomacy: completely poinless to Country2, intended for Country1

Imperium Guy 20:14, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

So like each year is split into sections for each country, and that country's section is then split up into events & diplomacy? With the relevant diplomacy in the relevant country's diplomacy section? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:23, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

I think so, something like how Axis vs Allies Revised worked. :D Imperium Guy 08:52, November 1, 2011 (UTC)