User talk:ChrisL123



Luna
Hello I just read Luna Earth and it seems like to me you are off to a good start. Here are some ideas
 * Perhaps you could change the development rates so that the Lunar Species could be as advanced or more advanced then Earth.
 * Human Relgions might be altered with an existence of a blue-green planet in the sky.

Yes, I always had the idea of the lunans being more advanced than humans, even considering developing space travel around the time of the Apollo II mission. And I added a "religion" section to the Luna: Earth II template, considering many different religions that could have been created for Luna. Thanks for the message! ChrisL123 01:16, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Good Project
This is a good project, I will be willing to help if asked

In your reponse to this go to my talk page and write it there it is considered good wiki-manners

And remember to put your signature in the message,

Happy Editing!

Alexanders 01:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
In the future, add the category "Luna: Earth II" to all on the articles you make in that timeline. Have a good day. Lordganon 22:34, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, I think I'll add it to the Portal box template. Thanks for letting me know! ChrisL123 22:55, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Portal Templates
Hmm... as a new user you seem to catch on pretty well I tried to make a potal page template but I don't know how to add the links, can you help?Alexanders 01:21, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! this is exactly what I needed! Alexanders 01:59, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I am reading your T.L and I am praticly falling in love with this... it is awsome no kidding

anything I can do to help? Alexanders 23:37, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, buddy! Thank you for correcting my template, that was exactly what I meant! Now, could you please explain to me your twist of hand? lol As a new user, I don't understand the trick, but I sure wish to. Parsifal br 04:18, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting Pages
Saw the note you left on the one article. Only admin members of Lieutenant or higher can delete articles. Just mark the delete tag on the article, and one of us will find it eventually. So ya know ;) Lordganon 03:30, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Nominations
I'm going to say this exactly once: Do not try and logout in order to nominate your timeline like that again. Wikia traced those IPs back to you, in an obvious attempt to get around the rules.

Lordganon 09:40, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

All match you. Claim it was your brother all you want, which cannot be proved one way or the other, but far as I, and the staff, are concerned in cases like that with IPs, it's still you. And the sarcasm was unneeded. Lordganon 15:36, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia can trace any and all IPs that have been used by an account, at request by an administrator of a wiki. Both match your account. Lordganon 15:53, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Not only is it possible, it happened. Don't try that stunt again. End of Discussion. Lordganon 17:06, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Christianity in New Union
Hello Chris. I have noticed that you have made an addition to the main page of the New Union timeline. I just want to let you know that this change has been reverted, and the main reason is that this particular section is only for canon works (more or less). If you would like, you are more than welcome to create an article about the religious ideals of the Soviet Union and how they are different from OTL, but it would not be made canon right away. Thank you for your interest in the NU timeline, I hope we haven't discouraged you from wanting to expand more into it. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 14:38, June 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh. You'll notice that I never said a word to you, Chris? I knew it wasn't you. I'd appreciate it if you actually thought before speaking in the future. Lordganon 23:33, June 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * *Slaps forehead* I am so sorry. It was a misunderstanding. I feel like a complete idiot. As for the map of Roosevelt's Germany... call that another misunderstanding. Blame it on my dyslexia, but I swear I didn't even notice that it was a translated map. Thank you for the translated map, and I reverted my edit for that. I feel so stupid right now. Please forgive me for any troubles I have caused. :'( --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:14, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :)
I had so much trouble with the ROK table thanks for fixing it!

Alexanders 14:39, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: .PNG to .SVG conversion?
Sorry, but that is top secret. Only me, George Washington, and Jesus know how to do this. Lolz. Sorry, couldn't resist (just got off work). Glad that you are getting active in Inkscape, but sadly, I know of no way to convert PNG to SVG. The sad truth is that everything I have converted from PNG to SVG was completely by hand. I would just find the PNG symbol I wish to use, and line them inch by inch on Inkscape. What about that conversion website that you linked on your userpage? That looks interesting, but not interesting enough for me to pay for. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:39, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sometimes it does. But I rather like it, allows me to be creative. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:20, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

U.S Presidents Contest
On the Nexus I have started a U.S Presidents Contest. The Earliest POD can be in the 1944 election.

Give a 9 to 15 sentence description to each Presdient following your POD

Are you intrested? Alexanders 23:57, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Atlantic Islands
You are very welcome to help.

And yes I already have some ideas for nations.

Alexanders 17:51, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Alexanders 19:44, July 4, 2011 (UTC) Your ideas are excellent!

Bermedua should become part of Britian at first.. but mabey it could try to break away Alexanders 20:34, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Nova Roma


This is the location of the nation of Nova Roma. I wished that the Romans had still discovered the greater Azores, as there is moch more space in it for another nation. Anyway, I would like help creating a suitably "Roman" flag for Nova Roma to use. And is it possible for the Nova Romans to control both of the Ampere Islands (at least temporarily)? I would think that Nova Roma could have served as refuge for Romans seeking to flee the barbarians. How do you like the idea of a vestige of Roman culture existing to this day? I would think they would get a lot of tourists because of it.

Yank 01:49, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Southern Atlantic Islands
Sure I do speak Portuguese, actually I'm Brazilian... that's why I put a "br" on my nick... LOL. Actually, this ATL falls very much into my fields of interest, especially, say, the "southern part" of it: Brazilian history, Atlantic slave trade and making things turn out to be very different from OTL with a few slight changes. :)

As for the names, I sure could make it, and I could also think of some historical relations to the islands on each side of Southern Atlantic. I got a few takes about this, that I don't know where it's best to talk about. Six days in this wiki still makes me a beginner... LOL. Parsifal br 20:20, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think the Coner Islands should be settled by native Americans, perhaps by Deleware, Irioqui or Mimaq, what do you think? Alexanders 22:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Just as a note, the Iroquois couldn't get to the Atlantic. Too many other natives in the way. Nor was the river actually passable all the way at the time.

Corner Islands are too far to colonize by the natives. Their canoes are definitely not sea-going beyond the coast, lol.

The Kelvins, hunt around for the natives from the Cape Cod/Long Island region.

Lordganon 00:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

What happened to Madeira? It doesn't seem to be on the map. Also, have you considered possibility of a Celtic/Iberic culture on these islands? Apparently there were some inhabitants on the OTL Azores before Portuguese arrival? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 01:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

My New Map Game
Hey,

I just started the Imperialist America (Map Game), and I would like some players to help me out and to start it, tell your friends, I tink itll be interesting. DeanSims 15:52, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Flag of Dutch Azores
I changed the Flag of Dutch Azores to a Yellow Flag with three stars, but the one with the crown is so pretty/nice. So since it's your flag, I want to use the old flag as a Coat of Arms. Just checkin' if it's okay with you =] Okay and hi! Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:21, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Divided States of America
I know he was only fixing spelling, but its in the whole idea of him editing my TL. I like people to ask for the ability to edit my TL, which i will give. It seemed like he was doing it for badges, fixing it one section at a time and fixing only one or two mistakes Roguejedi 01:42, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

A present
Hey there! We've never spoken before and I've never paid too much attention to your Earth II timeline, but nonetheless this evening I had a bug to touch up your photo of Luna for you. So, without further ado:

I hope you can find a use for it!

Fegaxeyl 22:45, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me
Thanks for telling me that information after this I will stop.Empire1994 02:03, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey it's Empire again
Hey it's Empire again just wanting to know how it is vandilism when I created the pages you have corrected.Empire1994 02:12, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Favor
Can I do a favor?

I wanted to have a Filipino and South Korean colony on the moon.

Could I?

General tiu 10:45, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

A question
Hello, do you happen to know where Montes Apenninus is located on the map? I can't find the location on the circle Luna map that would roughly be where shows. Could you highlight it for me please? Thanks. (In case your wonder why I ask, it is because I want some elevation changes/mountain for Nepal's colony, since Nepal is located in the Himalayas on Earth). 9 もりや すわこ 09:52, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

On the Eve of War
Hi im the author of on the eve of war i would apreaciate it if u gave me some feed back cos im a berginer

thanks

Fishezinmasandvitch 19:28, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Contents box
How do you get a contents box on an article page? I don't know how to so would you be able to tell me please?Ta! Oh, and feel free to comment on my timeline as this is my first undertaking. Ta again! :D Imperium Guy 17:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for that. It looks amazing. One question, after you've created the portal box template, would you be able to edit it? Also, by contents box I meant the the box which shows all the main headings and sub-headings. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 18:15, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Do you think its improved though, with the pictures? Imperium Guy 16:00, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Riel's Canada
Thought I'd let you know that this is a joint project between Yank and Tbguy. Lordganon 19:21, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

In regards to your question about adopting Riel's Canada, I must, unfortunately, decline your request. It is a timeline that User:Yankovic270 and myself was going to work on together, but we haven't been able to work on it due to my lack of good internet at the moment we haven't been able to work on it, though I have every intention of doing so when I get the chance.

However, if Yankovic approves, I would be more than happy to allow you to help us on the TL, as... yeah, we haven't done very much on it at all. We have some ideas, but I'm sure if three heads got together, we can work on making it one of the best timeline's on the Wiki!

I would recommend asking Yankovic, and if he gives the okay, then we can get to work on it! (I will be back to University in about three weeks or less, with highspeed internet).

Thank you for your interest!

Tbguy1992 03:23, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

GWS Map
Thanks, Chris, that's really great. I hate to say this, but I was kinda hoping for a blank map of Antarctica with the 1917 borders for all countries (ie. not highlighting Russian Antarctica). I completely understand if you don't have time to make one or anything, though. - Mister Sheen 09:53, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, large borders would be better; and New Swabia still had separate borders while it was under British rule. Thanks! - Mister Sheen 14:12, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem, as long as the borders are all the same width, that's perfect. - Mister Sheen 01:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

There's no rush, don't worry about it. It would be great if you could do the other maps, but it gets pretty complicated in the Ognia region. The biggest problem is that, as far as I know, the borders for Alexandria and Palmeria haven't been defined yet. I think they're going to look something like this, but I'm not sure, so you might want to wait until we know for certain. - Mister Sheen 23:54, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Dutch Antarctica
Greetings. I see you are interested in Dutch Antarctica. I see nothing wrong with that, in fact, I have been thinking a lot about Dutch Antarctica. More or less it would not be too successful, and the Russians will take it over, but allow the continuation of Dutch culture. If you are interested, please, be my guest.

Also, I feel a little bit betrayed that you made Mister Sheen a variation of my map. But than again, it is my fault for loosing track of it ^^; --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:01, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just an update. I hope you won't be mad at me, but I sent Mister Sheen a blank map of Antarctica from 1915. I also thought of an interesting idea for Dutch Antarctica. One of the is called the "Midnight Coast." Maybe the name originated form the Dutch term for the region, and the governorate continues to have a large Dutch heritage. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:27, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Names of the Soviet Union (New Union)
Thank you for adding a Greek version of the name, but you see, in this time-line the country is named "Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics", not "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics". Could you fix that? — Hellerick 16:13, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Riel's canada
Regarding the arms of assiniboina, the other elements makes sense to me but if it is not part of Canada, I doubt they would have included the maple leaves at the base. Maybe instead you could use a buffalo ? Marcpasquin 21:51, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr
Its up and I noticed you haven't made any moves. u should. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 16:16, August 28, 2011 (UTC) Just to note, Indonesia is not highlighted, and no one control it. However, Thailand is highlighted, and Im controlling it. Indonesia is just a bunch of large and small islands, while Thailand isnt, lol.

And the creator of the border map only put borders around Thailand, and no land from French Indochina was taken. Just thought I'd let know. :p 9 もりや すわこ 19:06, August 28, 2011 (UTC) It's okay, mistakes happen.


 * And as for the map, after looking at it again, it does in fact look like that Thailand took some land from French Indochina. Though, the one who edited that map only saved the small version and edited it, instead of taking the full size version and edit it that way. So that's probably why Thailand seems to have gotten land from French Indochina. 9 もりや すわこ 19:21, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * We urge you to break your alliance with the british. They have openly aligned themselves with the Germans, making themselves the enemies of democracy worldwide. and their actions in the Netherlands have only highlighted their imperialist intentions. Beware. Join us in an alliance, and there will be hope for the world yet. Azecreth 17:40, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, the Soviets had spies in a high level of the Japanese government. It's how they knew the Japanese weren't going to attack them in 1941, so they could withdraw the Siberian divsions. Look up a guy named Richard Sorge. Yeah. He's with me. If they were to invade Indochina, he would have known ahead of time, and I could have warned you. That's not even mentioning my spies in Germany. Azecreth 15:02, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Central Arabia

 * I was not going to give up Central Arabia and Iraq will be setteled by peole from the ruined citie of the USSR. I also control Spain and the USA. I adopted Ierland ages back.Oxfordshire 1972 19:17, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Spain

 * I'm mothering several deserted or user:retiered nations. Would you like it If I engineared some sort of Spanish offer to politicaly merge with France? If not Portugal's going to be given it, bt I would prefer France to have Spain.Oxfordshire 1972 05:41, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Jaden is back.Oxfordshire 1972 17:02, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ireland
Jaden has returned, so I offer you Ireland instead.Oxfordshire 1972 17:02, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Mod
Sorry for the delayed action, but sorry, while you two are pretty plausible, we have way, way too many mods right now anyways. I'll contact you and Bob as soon as a spot opens up. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 20:20, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Failed Revolution Map Game
Of the world if you can find it. The map should show the boundaires of the 13 colonies but the rest of the map should just be an outline of that country and colorcoded. I can colorcode it but if you find one that is, great.

DeanSims 21:36, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Too late?
Hey, I saw your post on Nuke's talk page, where you said you were too late to join in with the Great White South. I think a lot of people feel that way about GWS, because it was mostly built by a team of about 5 or 6 guys, rather than the entire community; so people feel like they might be "intruding", but that really isn't true, and there's plenty of ways you could join in. Plus, a lot of people have left the timeline, and now it's basically just me, Nuke and Vegas.

Since Mitro and Mumby have dropped out, and  are essentially open for adoption; or if you want more of a blank slate, most of the Australian, New Zealand and South African territories (listed here) are almost completely undeveloped, with  being the only real exception. If you're willing to work on a defunct nation or colony, then there's even more you could do; and if you don't want to adopt a nation at all, then maybe you could write something about Antarctic culture, indigenous animals/plants, or one of the laureates.

I don't know if you want to join in with GWS at all, but I hope you don't feel like you can't. - Mister Sheen 22:15, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * It really isn't as complete as it looks — sure, we know which nations existed, and when they existed, and we know what happened in the world wars; but beyond that, there isn't actually very much set in stone.
 * Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that GWS hasn't turned into another 1983 (which, in my opinion, is basically a free-for-all based more on wiki politics than realism); but since Mitro, Mumby and United seem to have disappeared, and Nuke and Vegas have other things to work on, I'd really like to see a few other people get involved with GWS. - Mister Sheen 12:58, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have to agree with Sheen, you wouldn't be intruding. But in the long run, the decision is yours, but I would love to see what you have in mind. If I remember correctly, you were originally going to include Antarctica in The Green North (why did you put it up for adoption?). So again, I would love to see what you have in mind. As for the map game, thank you so much for asking me first. As long as it remains on this website, I would love to see a game of Antarctica. One one condition, I get to play XD. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:49, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

United Nations (AvA r)
You are part of the Permanent Security Council of the United Nations. Please confirm on the talk page. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:40, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Axis v Alies (r)
Hindustan has (OTL) unplausably and with out good cause (ATL) crushed Eritrea, Somalia and Sudan in 1 turn. I agree, let's make a stand in Ethiopia. I'm going to cut oil and bauxite supplys to Hindustan if they don't leave Sudan soon. We could join with Italy and try to free at least Sudan (it has a player) or modify the posts over plausabilaty. Fancey some cheep oil, bauxite, coal or bananas for 10 years?Oxfordshire 1972 15:52, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, Iv'e got some troops and ships coming to French Sudan (OTL) Mali, Senegal, ect to join in an joint atempt to save Ethiopia and crush Hindustan in Africa.Oxfordshire 1972 16:24, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Add Yugoslavia to the coalition?Oxfordshire 1972 16:28, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

It was redone.Oxfordshire 1972 19:36, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr League of Catholic Nations
The Venezuelan government will set up the League of Catholic Nations. Your nation has been invited to join the mutual religious, cultural, trade and defence pact. Let me know if you want in to it. :-) Oxfordshire 1972 15:53, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Avar Bohimia
I'm sqishing the Nazi diehards in Bohimia tomorrow, fancy helping out by taking over the southern 1/3 (33%)? Oxfordshire 1972 19:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I've asked Spain if they can pitch in as well..Oxfordshire 1972 19:45, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Natives in Kerguelen Plateau
I sincerely doubt it. While the place otl is not the best ever, if anyone had found the place before the Europeans arrived otl, someone would have settled there. No one did.

Unlike the Pacific and Caribbean, there's no real "seafarers" on the Indian ocean until after the 1400s, when the Arabs and the Europeans first arrive. It would get settled from that point onwards.

Basically, unless they were connected to Africa at some point - which as volcanic islands is not the case - there is not going to be any inhabitants before explorers arrive.

Lordganon 08:35, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Austronesians hands down. They populated Madagascar from Borneo with outrigger canoes. If there was Kerguelen in the way, they would have settled there instead. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 04:07, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

No, they wouldn't. I suggest you look at a map of where the Plateau is. They would not even come close.

Cook's mission on his second voyage was to find the fabled "Terra Australis." The discovery of another few islands would really give that no reason to change, given the Royal Society - what amounted to Cook's employers - really wanted to know more about TA. Plus, even if Kerguelen was larger, that news would both be some time in coming, and also Trémarec would be just getting back, at best, about the time Cook left.

There's little doubt he would find the islands, mind. But given his mission, he wouldn't stay there on that voyage. Nor do I doubt that the voyage he did to find the Northwest Passage otl would still happen, though maybe under someone else, with similar results - George Dixon, James King, Charles Clerke, or John Gore being likely candidates to head the "third" voyage and discover Hawaii. Probably, it would be Clerke killed in Hawaii leading the voyage, with Gore still leading them home like otl.

Instead of the third voyage, him being assigned instead to go explore the Plateau makes some sense. But only if it does not interfere with the second.

Lordganon 05:07, October 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Austronesians have been know to inhabit many "not even close" places. Hawaii, New Zealand, Madagascar and Easter Island are all displaced from the nearest possible port of departure by thousands of miles, without there seeming to be a clear reason for settling them.  Also, the would not have been deflected by climactic differences, because they did inhabit New Zealand, which has somewhat similar climate to Kerguelen.  Unlikely, yes, but certainly more likely than African inhabitants.  Detectivekenny (Info; Talk)  20:13, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Please
Look, I told you not to edit this. Haven't you read the rules?

RandomWriterGuy 00:06, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Map making


First off, I am so sorry it has taken so long for me to write back. I have had a lot going on, plus I couldn't figure out the best way to explain myself (on map making).

As for the map making, I have many tricks. I have always wanted to make a YouTube tutorial on how I do this, and maybe I will have to look into it very soon. But in the case of this map, it is merely an ethnic map I found on Google, and added the borders to show my new republics in comparison to Iraq and its ethnic groups. If you would like for me to give you greater detail, let me try it this way.


 * 1) Go on Google and find a base map you would like to use.
 * 2) Copy the image to Inkscape (which is the program I use, and I think you use it too). For your work to be seen easier in comparison to the map, make the opacity smaller (I usually use between 25 to 50 [depending on the image itself]).
 * 3) For the case of making the borders, I use the "pencil tool" and the "pen tool". I have special settings for them, but I don't want to go into detail and explain everything about that. But in the long run, I usually change the stroke width of the lines (depending on the size of the base map itself). I would also use noticeable colors (like red or blue) for the stroke, and keep the fill empty (so you only see the lines).
 * 4) When I require more information that is not on the base map, I use other maps. For instance, the border for the Shia Republic (written as Babylonia in this map) is the same border as the southern governorates of Iraq. Go on Google and search for maps of the Iraqi governorates. Same as before, copy and paste to Inkscape. The new image is most likely no the same size or characteristics of the base map. In this case, you will have to play with the new image to make it (as close as possible) to fit into nicely with the base map (don't forget to make the opacity lower to see what you are doing).
 * 5) Use either the pencil or pen tool to now draw out the border you desire. As an authors note, I love to use the pencil tool more, because it gives a more "natural" look for the border and coastlines (but the decision is up to you).
 * 6) If you need to add more information to the map, just follow step four again, and it's that simple.
 * 7) When I post my finished work to AltHist Wiki, I remove any secondary maps (if they are not important in comparison to the base map). Keep the opacity low (like around 30), and make sure your borders and text are large enough (and colorful enough) to be distinct from the base map.
 * 8) To make use your image doesn't look "see through" when you upload it, make a while rectangle that is large enough to be bigger than the area you desire to be seen. Place this rectangle on the bottom of the page (or the end layer), and bingo. I would recommend doing this earlier (so you can see the map easier on Inkscape, but I forgot about it until now).
 * 9) Because Inkscape is vector, you can't upload the vector version with a copied map in it (it will not come out). That is why you need to convert the image into PNG. Go to Files -> Export Bitmap. On Bitmap size, I would suggest a small enough size that it can be uploaded and not crash Wikia, but large enough to be noticeable. My recommendation would be 2000 px for either the width or height (the other will be converted to match). Be sure you know where the file will be save onto (I recommend saving it to your desktop). Press export, and you are done ^_^

I hope this is helpful. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:32, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr talk page
I did it as a servival tactitc. Personaly the M.R., Gayana Esqible and Ruthenia were only on my list. I was going to subert Peru like Panama and Nicaragua, but Hindustan began conquring my continent (Equador and Peru). I gave Portugal back Gunie and would not mide giving up Poland. I was thinking only of stopping Austria, Hindustan and the USSR taking over the world. I was going to do an election, where Poland realings with the USSR. I stuck my nose in to the Antrctica, but said I would leave below -). south since it's not been developed (it's to cold). I've surrendered Ruthenia to Austria. Turkey was ging to be crushed by Hinduastan, so I took over the rest. Elections were planned and gray status like Bohemia. Sudan is secduled for an election. The rest is stays my land.Oxfordshire 1972 04:55, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still playing?? :/ Imperium Guy 14:54, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Its just that I have given my South American territory to Venezuala but its never been added to the map. Also, Dean is attacking the USSR when I told him not to in case Azecreth returns. :( Imperium Guy 14:58, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thankfully, he's used a spy to kill off the communists and establish a constitutional monarch without invading which I think is plausible. Now I just have to convince him not to take Sudan and ask for the Venezualan middle eastern territories. :) Imperium Guy 15:10, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Done!! Thank you for your help!! Why did you make them independent (FEA) :D Imperium Guy 13:55, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr conch crunch
I agree, it's gon into inplausagasum overdrive. It fell apart in 1949 and went totaly waky by 1956. I may leave the game soon, like many have already done. I've lost the plot, continuity has broken down and all cononisaty is lost now. Argentina's user has not posted for a while, so they may have walked out like so many others.Oxfordshire 1972 01:33, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

News just in!
Kunarian got himself blocked for a week over a post on the N.O.E. game, attack fascist Austria whilst you have the chance! Eliminate the Reich!Oxfordshire 1972 14:02, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Apology
I am very sorry for what I said to you last week. I felt what I did to you was very rude. Please give me a kind response. --RandomWriterGuy 17:31, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

What happened?
What did Lx do?? BTW, I think the flag for French Indochina should be the frech flag made horizontal from vertical and the star the Japanese proposed. :) Imperium Guy 19:35, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know, it happens sometimes for no reason!! What do you think about the flag?? :) Imperium Guy 20:02, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm the lates to quit AVAr. DeanSims has no rite to Indoniesia China took it off of Japan. You can have Venezuela, the USA and Ierland.Oxfordshire 1972 15:13, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

New game
Like to join Radioactive Tide (Map Game) ? Oxfordshire 1972 19:16, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Borealia in RA
You learned that in 9th grade?? Damn. All I learned in 9th grade was that cows go moo (basically). Just curious, do you live in Canada, or do you happen to go to the one school which talks about other countries (mine sure didn't).

As for Manitoba, all I can say is you are both right and wrong. I would also like to correct, the UK didn't "give" Ontario (Upper Canada) to the US. The Canadian rebellions would go in favor for the two Canadas, and it would turn into a Texas-like situation. The US would annex Upper Canada, while Lower Canada (Quebec) would remain independent. I would also like to correct, while I do agree Quebec would prefer to move away from English colonialism and embrace their French heritage, I highly dough they would "force" the English-speakers out. In fact, the Republic of Canada would be bilingual. There is also the fact of the English-speaking community in Labrador (which would remain in Lower Canada after the war), but that is a different story.

Now back to the question at hand (sorry about that XD). I am not too sure about the extent the Canadian loyalists exodus after the "Canadian Revolution" in ttl, but I do believe there would be a major difference from otl. These loyalists would become guests in Rupert's Land, rather than "Canadian expansion." In short, I am not too sure if the Red River Rebellion would take place, or whether it would be as extensive as OTL. With no Canadian Confederation to get in there way, the Red River Colony would continue to exist prominently under the vision of the colonists and the natives. I see this turning into a a similar situation to New South Wales in Australia, in which Winnipeg continues to control Rupert's Land. When the NWT and RL are merged, Winnipeg would take full control of the region (rather than Ottawa). Because of this, the colonists and the Metis would feel more in control of there region, rather than Canada invading their region.

But with more and more British colonization of the region, the Metis and Red River Colonists would feel like they are being pushed out. So similar to OTL, they would declare themselves their very own colony, and allowing the British to do as they wish with the NWT. Also, take a look at. This was the original name for Manitoba. The provisional government during the rebellion was called the. Prior to which, Rupert's Land was governed by the. It was Canada (not Winnipeg) which declared the name Manitoba. So without Ottawa, I can see the Red River Colony choosing their own name, and why change the name which has been used there already. While I do agree that calling the eastern-most province "Manitoba" is a bad idea, that was only to be a temporary name.

I am still working out the details for the region, but this is what I have right now. I hope this helps. Thank you so much for your interest. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:03, October 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I love Canada. My Mother is Canadian. Just curious, since you have taken an interest in Manitoba... are you a Manitoban?


 * I am not sure if you came across it, but I have updated the provinces of Borealia, and I think I have a much better timeline for it. I made new provinces, and I am so exited on how it came out. I would love to get your two cents on it. Also, I came across your Divided Canada map of North America. I love how it turned out. Not to boast or anything, but did you know I was the one who made that map? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:42, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry for sounding nosy. I just love meeting people who are not from the United States. I am also very surprised. I made that map a year ago (I believe), and I haven't really seen anybody use it. You are the first ^_^ Good luck with the timeline. I for one can't wait to read more about it! --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:56, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fractured America
OK, its about the maps, why are you shrinking my Indian colonies and enlarging Britains, I enlarged britains just as much as I did mine. I know your not being a jerk so please dont take it that way its just that, I trhink the mapmakers should work together on the maps and that way we both can agree on them. You do a great job on maps, its just that I get rid of the lesser colored pixels that the paint bucket doesnt fix by filling them in with the right color, making it easier to edit that area later. I could use some advice on mapmaking I guess.

thanks,

DeanSims 16:47, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Here is the final map. If you see any flaws please tell me and I'll do my best to fix them or you can tell me what needs to be fixed and you do it. Your call.

DeanSims 16:49, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to offer Britain a deal. The UK joins the World Economic Community and signs an alliance with Austria and the USA. I will not attack Canada, it would not do me good to be almost trapped between two unfriendly nations. Besides, the USA is preparing to force the Confederacy back into the Union or at least conquering everythin west of the Mississippii River, AND I dont want the USA fighting its mother country in another war and eventualy a world war. Please consider my deal.

thanks,

DeanSims 16:59, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you revert to the old map? I've colonized the Morocco and Algeria... Doctor261 18:25, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then ^.^ Doctor261 18:30, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not asking how. That's alright. :D I understand. Doctor261 18:48, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Would Indians be able to immigrate to Australia and South Africa?? :/ Imperium Guy 19:52, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add Mauritania colony, belonging to me (green colour), in the map, please? Doctor261 19:52, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ^.^ Doctor261 19:57, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Good, good. Do you think you will expand South Africa anytime soon. My troops are getting bored, ;) Imperium Guy 20:06, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Map
Can you please tell me how you make your maps look so realistic?

Alexanders 21:01, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, I mean the one you made for the Atlantic Islands, looked like it was out of google maps..

FA
The Americans propose a trade, its African colonies for Newfoundland and other landlocked Canadian territories landlocked by America. Imperium Guy 10:45, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

So you don't want all those colonies near South Africa for newfoundland? Imperium Guy 19:25, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you with the map, but the proposed land deal of the CSA and the USA has happened (I think 1 or 2 years ago). BTW, do you fancy a chunk of the small stripe of land in grey below the Hind-Bharat's colony of Indochina? I managed to colonized the remaining part of Vietnam and a fair bit of land north to my previous holdings and the area is secure for you to be able to establish a colony as I can watch your back. :D Imperium Guy 20:19, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Go on to 1867.5 and read the CSA's post. The agreed to all the deals proposed by the USA. :D Imperium Guy 20:58, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

LOLRL!! :D Imperium Guy 21:34, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

BTW, do you agree to the colony establishing proposal? :D Imperium Guy 21:36, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Atlantic islands & Morocco
I have to say, it's a shame I wasn't able to stick around and be part of the project. There did not seem to be room for my ideas in the group, sad to say, and the stuff I was suggesting didn't seem to fit with other people's ideas for the world. I looked over the discussion, and it basically was Mister Sheen rejecting my ideas. But that discussion took so long that I was discouraged from joining the game. But it looks like the game did not quite do what it was supposed to do; actual game posts look pretty sparse. And although it was a "map game," I don't see a single posted map! Is it safe to say that the Atlantic Islands is now a group TL rather than a game? Is it too late to go back and add Moroccan actions to the timeline? Benkarnell 07:08, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess I'll ask in a less convoluted way. Did the Atlantic Islands map game idea die off?  It looks like it didn't get much gameplay.  Can I still add ideas to the timeline?  And on a related question, were the South Atlantic islands officially added, or no?  Benkarnell 13:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, cool. I think I'll play around in the timeline a little, then.  Oh, and I'm having trouble seeing whether the southern islands (the new map) was officially added, or not.  Are they a part of the timeline? Benkarnell 21:18, November 5, 2011 (UTC) [EDIT] (Getting your attention again) Benkarnell 21:15, November 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. I suppose I'll just add my info at will.  It's a shame, too, that was the one Map Game I was ever interested in joining. Benkarnell 19:13, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Fractured America: algorithms
Hey. I like how this roleplay in Fractured America goes. And we should create an official algorithm. The wars are soon to be started. Doctor261 18:07, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, algorithms are quite funny and easy to use, if you KNOW how to use it. Doctor261 18:23, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The Queen and the Tsar
Now, as you know, there is a bit of a ruckas going on in North America, between the US, Canada, and the CSA. I was thinking that, with my formidable Grand Alliance, I could step in and kick America's ass.

But I asked myself, then what? What would become of everyone then? No one wants to play a map game with just the Grand Alliance bullying everyone around, and I certainly don't want the GA splitting up and attacking me.

So I propose this; you give up Canada, and we let America expand throughout the continent, while India and I absorb Persia, and see what we can do about the Ottomans. Then, as time passes, America, Iberia, and maybe a few other nations grow to counterbalance the Grand Alliance,there will be a Great War, where these two multinational entities duke it out, and, if we win, redraw the map in our favor. If we lose, we get redrawn, and it certainly won't be pretty. Of course, if/when America and her allies are defeated, the world will be very different.

Depending on the timeline, we could just ride out the last few years, satisfied that we have 'won' a map game, maybe we can just start killing each other, dogpile on someone else, or just go our seperate ways.

Whatever happens, I think we should avoid war with America until they become a strong enough counterbalance, or until they attack on of us personally (Regardless of what you say, I do not consider Canada to be personal.)

However, if we let things get too out of hand, or someone switches sides, or the Great War is unwinnable by either side prompting Flame Wars and Ragequits, I suppose you will have me to blame for that, and I will take full responsibility.

So what have you got to lose, other than Canada?

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns with any of this, do not hesitate to drop me a line, most of this is in the really formative stages at the moment.

Jazon Naparleon 02:34, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I will be holding a meeting of all Grand Alliance members in the near future, to discuss the situation in North America, which is where we will determine the fate of Canada and such. At the moment I have my hands full with the Persian invasion and events of that nature, but should things really start to deteriorate, I'm sure I could step in and at least prolong the war to the pont that a peace settlement could be made more in our favor than theirs.

Naparleon out.

Jazon Naparleon 00:09, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The Strip of Indochina
This is my last offer, you should colonize the strip of land between Hind-Indochina and Japanese controled Malaya (?). Otherwise, I will colonize it. If you do, it could act as a counter-balance. :D Imperium Guy 17:43, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!! :D I will not colonize that strip of land. Its all yours!! :D Imperium Guy 22:59, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

What?
How is China colonizing a bunch of small islands which all together add up to be less than the size of Korea considered unrealistic, but the US making all of those huge African colonies in 1863, an amount of territory at least 7 times the size of the Chinese one, considered acceptable? And that was by the creator of the map game, so you can't say that that was against the rules, he made the rules. I see the misunderstanding with Yukon, but I am reverting back to the Pacific Island claim, as I spread it out over 2 turns, unlike a bunch of huge land grabs which have occured by other players across this game. It is a huge double standard to allow all of the ASB that has occured already, but when I do it, you immedietally attack it and shut it down. LurkerLordB 02:23, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Oh dear, now by fixing the islands, I re-did the Iberian claims! I will fix it immediately. LurkerLordB 02:36, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it, sorry again for the small rant above. LurkerLordB 02:39, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Flag
What would my flag be, in FA? :D Imperium Guy 21:49, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, I have an idea on what my flag would be now. How do you create flags? :/ Imperium Guy 22:15, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I had tried to make flags but all my attempts failed miserbly!! :/ What is inkscape, a website or a program needed to be downloaded? Sounds Good!! :D Imperium Guy 22:51, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The flag is brilliant, however, I would like the flag to be based on the design of this British flag, with your flag taking the place of the Union Jack, and where the red background is, it would be in strips (horizontally) of the three colours of the Hind-Bharat flag you suggested, like the American flag. Hope you get me!! :/ Imperium Guy 11:05, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Forget every single thing I just wrote. Would you be able to fix this flag to make it look better, its not that good. Mind you, pretty damn chuffed at my first attempt of a flag (this is something like how I wanted the flag to look)!! Thank you for your advice on downloading Inkscape, it is amazing!! :'D Imperium Guy 12:22, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded a newer version of the flag to make it easier to handle. I think 18 strips will be fine. :D Imperium Guy 21:33, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, nothing else, thank you very much. I would ask for some advice again however, if you don't mind. How could I get the, say seal of India, into the flag, as I would want to add the elephant thing on the British Indochina flag onto my flag for the state of Indochina (or should that be Hindchina?). :D Imperium Guy 22:26, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

BTW, I have legimately taken 2/3rds of Burma by now but no one showed it on the map. It was plausible and slow. Would you add it to the map please?? :D Imperium Guy 22:00, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Homework, so annoying!! I manage to finish off most of my homework in school so I don't really do that much at home. Would you be in 9th Grade or 10th? :D Imperium Guy 22:13, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Revolutions 1750
Hello! I am glad you are on board the map game and I hope it'll be a good one. Before I start, I just want to notify you of some things. First off, you are a colony. Your mother nation can tell your colony what to do (within reason). They can punish you or reward you. Secondly, you and I are going to war in the French and Indian War if it ends up even happening. I'll keep the Treaty of Paris out of things if it does happen.

I'm going to extreme lengths to prevent this game from becoming implausible. Please note that moderators will have Delete on Sight permissions. This means they can delete anything they see implausible. Granted, I'll probably just cross it out so I don't confust people, but be warned that the mods reserve the right to remove problematic people from the game.

There will be algorithms factoring wars and revolutions. Keep in mind that, unless improperly done, an algorithm's result is final. Moderators will be keeping track of the algorithms. These algorithms are to keep the game plausible and fair.

The moderators are an impartial and fair group of players that have shown enough responsibility and plausibility to hold their positions. They will not be biased or unfair. That being said, please don't accuse them of being biased or unfair. Speaking of which, congratulations! You are accepted as a mod.

If I didn't scare you away from the map game with all this stuff, feel free to post on the map game. Good luck!

CrimsonAssassin 04:11, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

States of America 3 (Map Game)
WE NEED A BETTER BASE MAP WITH THE SAME BORDERS BUT LESS DETAIL, THIS ONE AS TOO MUCH AND IS TOO BIG, WE NEEDA SMALLER ONE BUT ONE TAT CAN STILL BE USED FOR A BASE MAP.

Can you please help me out? Check the present map on the game, and if you can, copy the bordrs and put them on a less detailed more aproproate base map.

i realy apreciate it

DeanSims 01:19, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I put on a new base map but another one could be used. Whatever you can find works for me. And if you find a good map, put it on the map game please and on the Random Maps Page please.

thanks a bunch

DeanSims 21:06, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yay!!
Thanks for fixing the pictures in the archive, from personal experience, must have taken you ages!! :D Imperium Guy 22:03, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Would you be able to make the backgroung transparent for this?? :D Imperium Guy 23:40, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!! :D See all these flags I'm importing, all the work of Inkscape. Thank you soooo very much!! :D Imperium Guy 00:20, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

i accepted your colony deal, can you show me a map of what it looks like now befiore the deal is finalizerd?

DeanSims 17:21, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

so what do i get out of it?

DeanSims 17:46, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

what territory do i gain from the deal, can you make a map of the land I gain?

DeanSims 17:51, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

I will give you aof Angola-Nambia for all of your Latin American Colonies as well as you Carribean. Central America, and Guyana colony, you get to keep military bases there as long as I get to keep a strip of the A-N to keep

DeanSims 17:54, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

here is my proposal map, you can keep the samll Carribean Islands, the Bahamas, and Bermuda but I get Jamaica, your Central America Colonies, your Guyana, Jamaica, and get to keep a small strip of Agola-Nambia.



DeanSims 18:03, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

could I have your Central America colonies instead? I would prefer to gain more territory n North America, its easier to defend.

DeanSims 18:20, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

i accept your deal and accept the portion of Guyana for my a portion of Angola-Nambia.

DeanSims 18:25, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Map FA
Hi ChrisL! Can you please adding to map of the game the annexations from Chile and Brazil in the last years? Regards! --Katholico 03:44, November 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem, Chile take aprox. the argentines provinces of Jujuy, Salta, Tucuman, Santiago del Estero, Chaco, Formosa, Cordova, San Luis, Neuquén and Rio Negro. I hope that this don't be a problem. jeje Brazil annex all Paraguay. Regards and thanks! :) --Katholico 04:26, November 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * ChrisL, I'm reading the archives and maybe Brazil annex all Uruguay instead Paraguay :( Here he mentioned Paraguay, but by this time Brazil was fighting against Uruguay if we read the previous years. The last about the war between Brazil and Paraguay is in 1869. What thinks? Regards! --Katholico 05:04, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
Well, you've been here long enough now, so here I am to ask: Would you be interested in a Constable position in the TSPTF? Lordganon 09:30, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nomination's been made. You need to go over to the request for user rights page and accept it now. Lordganon 01:58, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_History:Request_for_user_rights

And yes, you need to explain why you want it. Put it in the same place.

Lordganon 03:30, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Um
Could I adopt the Green North if you put it up for adoption?? :S Imperium Guy 00:40, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the TL seems brilliant. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 00:51, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Would this flag be good for Nazi Greenland? :D Imperium Guy 02:19, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, here's the flag. What do you think about the flag with the black background for a more facist nazi Greenland? :D Imperium Guy 18:54, December 8, 2011 (UTC)



Call me stupid if you want, but I only understood what you meant now!! :/ Here's the flags in which I used my brains in!! :D Imperium Guy 22:15, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

I picked the one you originally suggested, the latest map. I have got uses for these other flags. :D Imperium Guy 23:00, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Fredericton
No. Not possible.

There's the strike on CFB Gagetown, centered on its headquarters near the town of Oromocto. Causes near-direct damage to the suburbs of Fredericton, and rest of it is eliminated in the process.

Plus, Aroostook territory runs most of the way from the old border to the ruins of the city.

Lordganon 07:42, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Constable in the TSPTF. This allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a constable, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.

When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here. Since you are only a constable and do not have the power to delete or block, do not feel obligated to sign up for any duties you do not have the powers to do. Please inform and respect those in a position to do so if you see a problem that involves a needs for either of those things.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon 10:23, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re:13FS
Sorry I didn't reply to you when you first asked about it (I get busy XD). I would love to see what you have in mind, so go for it. As for the flags... yes and no. You see, I want the two flags to be based on the French tricolor (since it would not be the flag of France for ttl). The Quebec national flag seems to fit Canada, while the independent Louisiana flag somewhat fits for Louisiana. But, there is absolutely no harm if letting me see what you have in mind. No promises, but you never know. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:57, December 21, 2011 (UTC)




 * Sorry for the delayed response (Christmas and all). First off (off the subject), I just read the intro to No Native America... and I am honored and amazed to see you have taken my "questioned summary"... thing (not trademarking it or anything, just find that heartwarming... especially since I had a shitty day and it just got worse with RWG and all).


 * Secondly... uh? Yes, that is quite a misunderstanding. But when it comes to Borealia, I chose the name because I found it interesting. It is opposite of Australia, and it even matches perfectly to a proposed flag for OTL Canada (above, no joke... isn't that crazy??). But in the long run, I have been using Borealia for my other timeline, so yeah. Like I said before, no promises, but if you have another idea, I would love to hear it (if you don't mind). --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:36, December 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * 'Least I know I am not alone. Absolutely not! I am honored to have someone like it and use it. Please don't get rid of it (on my behalf). Glad you like it, what about the flag? Also, Merry Christmas and С Новом Годом! --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:14, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Montcalm Survives
Well, for starters, a French victory in that battle will not mean the Brits lose the war, even remotely, by any means. The battle held no effect other than the conquest of the colony. Heck, they will probably try again in the spring, and may well succeed.

Nor would they gain Rupert's Land.

Really, all it does is set the stage for another war, and a delayed - and different in nature - revolution in France. Should butterfly the American one away as well, I figure. If a revolution happens in France like this, expect an independent Quebec to emerge - but it'd be minus Louisiana.

A war in NA after that one, that the French would lose. Simple fact is that the French and their Indian Allies in NA were outnumbered in the area of 15:1 by the English and their Allies, at best. In reality, it's going to be 20:1, more likely than not.

South America really wouldn't change at all, though expect a much later date for things.

Lordganon 08:47, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pivotal Battles almost never mean the same thing to both sides. In this case, it is regarded that way in Quebec, but really can't be said to have been such anywhere else.

Louisiana and Quebec are very different places, with thousands of kilometers of wilderness between them.

No, Rupert's Land had ceased to be disputed decades before that war. Have a look at the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht As for fur, have a look into the practices of the Northwest Company for how they operated in New France.

Lordganon 02:33, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to have French India, then you would need to have playing a crucial part in fighting the British. He fought 4 wars against them and won every one with French help except the last one when he lost his life. Maybe have the French play a bigger part and he wins the 4th war aswell!! :D Imperium Guy 07:58, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

As I said before, there is no reason whatsoever for an American Revolution to have a chance of happening. The colonists will be far more willing to pay taxes if they have to have British troops present in order to defend against the French and their allies.

Even in the event that it does happen, there'd be no war of 1812.

I agree with pretty well everything Oer has said on that page.

Really, a French presence in NA will guarantee more wars. As in between the F&I War and the otl Revolutions. The only net result of all of these would be the French lose most of their claims. At most, they'd be likely to hold onto Louisiana and the heavily settled parts of Quebec.

As I said before, look at the populations - and what they don't show, which is that the English colonies have a population that is increasing much faster, as well as being larger in the first place - i.e. Quebec increased, at most, 6,000 people in five years, largely from children, while the Thirteen colonies increased by about 132,600 in the same time span, from children and immigration. That is twenty-two times larger of an amount.

Pure numbers mean that the Settlers in the British colonies will eventually consume all but the settled areas of the French colonies. And there is almost nothing that you can do to change that fact - literally so in the case of your PoD, as to increase the French colony's population would take a PoD in the early 1600s, changing everything.

Lordganon 04:45, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

....What you're describing is more or less what the French government did otl. It managed nothing. Frenchmen didn't want to go anywhere because they were happy and well-off enough where they were. The only possible way to change that would be allowing Protestant Frenchmen to go there - and that is a PoD in the early 1600s, and changes things globally. And, Frenchmen didn't want to go to the Caribbean, by and large, either.

The mere presence of the French means that the Americans will tolerate the troops and the extra taxes to pay for them. Ceasefires, Armistices.... all those happened otl before the Revolution, and managed nothing. So long as the French are on the continent, a Revolution is more or less not going to happen for decades.

Lordganon 06:12, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Chris, as I said before, allowing French Protestants to go to the colony is not minor. That has massive global repercussions. Lordganon 23:37, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Have a look at this. It's not everything, not even close, but it'll give you an idea.

Even if it's only the ones that went to the Thirteen colonies, you have problems. Big ones.

Past that, you're talking of things like Global commerce and banking being vastly different. Among others, of course.

Lordganon 00:04, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Like I said before, they had absolutely no reason to immigrate there. The French were happy in France, simply put. And, the French Kings were not friends of the Jesuits, by and large.

You're best off going with just the one PoD. If it helps any, the French can probably keep hold of Louisiana north to otl St. Louis, and Quebec westwards to the Detroit region.

Lordganon 07:10, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

For the F&I War, that'd be a good treaty - so long as by Acadia you're referring to the islands in the Gulf as well. Note, however, that more wars are going to happen, which the Brits and their colonists are going to be winning, too. And that a French presence anywhere in the area pretty much means no revolution.

Note, however, that the Spanish did get Louisiana out of the peace otl. While all of it is unlikely here, the French are probably going to have to cede most of their claims in the area to them or let them lapse in some other form (as I said, likely to be pretty well anything north of St.Louis)

Lordganon 09:18, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

I like the new map, except for the part "disputed" between the British and French - like I said, it wasn't disputed.

So long as the French have a presence on the continent, the "Americans" will be willing to pay more taxes to support the troops guarding them. Note, however, that Napoleon wouldn't come to power, probably - expect a different military figure to do so. Bernadotte would be a good candidate (there was a reason why Napoleon agreed to his election in Sweden otl, lol)

Lordganon 15:11, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

No, I got you.

Otl, the colonists, largely held issue with more taxes because they saw there as being no reason for it. French gone, etc.

Atl, here, the French are still around. The colonists would have no problem with paying more taxes to try and get rid of them and to take their lands.

Napoleon came to power largely through a series of, quite frankly, flukes. Heck, with the changes to start this, I think that France probably wouldn't even be able to get Corsica - which means that Napoleon, given French laws, can't do any of what he did otl. If he comes to power anywhere, it would be in some Italian form.

France would realistically turn into a state, if it has not already lost by that time, much like Napoleon turned it into. Though, probably not so liberal. Another general, like I said, likely Bernadotte or Moreau, would replace him.

Lordganon 08:13, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year!! I'll help, sure. :D Imperium Guy 08:28, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

As stated before, American independence as occurred otl is almost impossible.

Perry would be a no, for more or less the same reason as you say.

Alaska and BNC wouldn't be independent until the late 1800s, at best.

The Russians, as I said to Nuke for his Russian America timeline, would be the ones to make contact, almost for sure.

Lordganon 09:24, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just to add my own two cents. The French Revolution was spurred by the success of the American Revolution. No American Revolution means either a much later French Revolution, or a much lesser one, possibly resulting in a stable Constitutional Monarchy. Meaning even if France controls Corsica, the environment that led to Napoleon's rise wouldn't be there, so either he would have remained in Corsica and remained devoted to Corsican nationalism, or possibly joined the Genoan military.Oerwinde 11:04, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Normal Business
I have been thinking about the Fractured America Map Game, and I just came up with quite a plan; What if you stopped expanding your colonies? I know it sounds crazy, but look; Iberia and the Netherlands have been expanding their colonies nonstop, which is bad news for them militarily. In a decade or two, I am going to launch an attack on Iberia and the Dutch (probably not at the same time) to conquer their territories in Europe. If I have to, I'll call in China and Hind and give them some colonies in return, but I wouldn't mind if you amped up your military for a few turns rather than expand to make sure we win. I don't really want any colonies in Africa; you can have everything Hind and China don't, which is probably going to be a fair amount.

I understand that the US is a big threat, but it and Iberia were allies with Austria, but they didn't lift a finger when I partitioned it. Even if they do butt in, I know we can take them, and maybe, just maybe, we can get you back some territories in Oceania and Northern N. America, if you want them back, that is.

And of course if you want nothing to do with this map game and simply want to pursue greener pastures, well, I'm sure I can it done one way or another.

I await your response,

Jazon Naparleon 18:36, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maps
Hi Chris, how are you? I have seen that you make ortographic and other maps, which looks very nice, and for this, i want to ask you if you can help me with maps for a few timelines own, please? Just, if you can, of course. Regards! --Katholico 19:57, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'm fine, thanks for your disposition :) Well, in fact, i want both types of maps jeje But for the moment, i want just a colour map for this . Probably later bring more maps, because first i need resolve some pounts in my timelines. jeje Regards and thanks! --Katholico 21:27, December 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also make a ortographic version for that map, please? ^^U Regards! --Katholico 20:41, December 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Again thanks very much for your disposition to help me :D For the nation names, let me know when you need them, and ask me for any doubt about the territories.
 * By the way, if you need any help for other thing which i can be useful, just let me kwon. Regards! --Katholico 05:58, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, for the moment, the mostly of central america nations are independent, except for 1) Panama which belong to Colombia, 2) and Belize and part of the northern Guatemala, which are annexed by Mexico.
 * For North America, the situation is a little complicated jeje Originally this would be the map, but with the experience that i gained in the wikia, i have had to change many things.
 * I can say to you some things:


 * CSA won the civil war and become independents, but i try to decide if continues until today or are rejoin with US during the 30's or 40's.
 * Mexico expand to the Canadian border like the map (and with California).
 * Chile has two enclaves in California (Los Angeles and San Francisco).
 * Alaska become independent and annexed the Yukon Territory and the former.
 * Canada is the same (obviously, except for the territories annexed by Alaska).
 * I hope this help to you :) Any other doubt or the names just let me know.
 * You're welcome. Just can i say that really i liked that map. :) Regards!!! --Katholico 19:31, January 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok! The nations are (from north to south)


 * Colombia
 * Venezuela
 * Gran Guayana (the 3 Guyanas from OTL)
 * Ecuador
 * Peru-Bolivia
 * Brasil
 * Paraguay
 * Confederación Argentina (the northern Argentina)
 * Río de la Plata (the country that include Buenos Aires and Uruguay)
 * Chile


 * However, i forgot completely tell to you the situation of the Falklands/Malvinas. D:
 * The western island belongs to Rio de la Plata; and the Wastern island to the Confederación Argentna. I'm sorry about this. I hope can you add this. Anyway, thanks very much!! Regards! PS: About South America, i will answer to you in ones minutes because I'm a little busy in this moment. --Katholico 00:50, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

American Empire (Map Game)
I want to invite you to join my map game. There are plenty of nations left and the gaem has already begun

hope youll join,

DeanSims 23:27, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

In Your Professional Opinion. ..
Hey Chris, I've been making the algo's for a few wars in Fractured America lately, and I was wondering, in your mod-tastic opinion whether or not the US and Japan should have their own Algo's or should one be the ally of the other, in this current war for Australia, here.

Jazon Naparleon 22:58, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

A new flag
A flag of Mexico for Moltcalm Survives which might be created because of the influence of other North American nations maybe? Its an alternate history so I thought the flag would work with your Mexico. What do you think? :D Imperium Guy 15:31, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

There are 35 stars for the 35 federal districs. :D Imperium Guy 15:33, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well, here it is. I was going to use the png to svg converter website but my tokens ran out. Here it is:

What do you think of it now. BTW, are there any other websites for converting pics? :D Imperium Guy 18:57, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

South America Question
I put here my answer. First, yes, i have :P Second, well, if i understand well what you try to say, the answer is that by the time of revolutions, there is two main divisions in the spanish colonies: Viceroyalties (for greater territories like ) and General Captaincies (for minors like ); traditionally, those territories are the bases from the actual republics in the continent, in fact, after the independence, for establish the borders, the countries use the principle known as, which mean that each nation remains the limits which had when was an colony. However, you must consider some countries as Bolivia (kwon as Charcas) or Ecuador, which was part from the Viceroyalties as an subdivision, but due to the distances with the center of power (Lima and Bogota) and other factors, by the time of the revolution, they already had developed a national own identity, which eventually lead to his own independence in OTL, several years after that the spanish were defeated. I hope this help. If need that i explain betterm just tell me. Regards! --Katholico 03:26, January 12, 2012 (UTC)