Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-7559950-20130911012534/@comment-4206034-20130924173429

LG there had quite a large text wall, but it's pretty accurate.

First off, the Japanese plan was to firebomb the US, not launch bio attacks. They had a plan which involved breaking the rules of warring (they would fly a plane in American colours). It was very high risk and would have probably been a suicide mission.

The Germans winning by invading the Soviet Union? Soviets would just eat them up. The "second front" the soldiers joked about was the tin cans of beef the soldiers recieved from America. Just don't get the Nazis to invade Russia. The Soviets had one thing the Germans never did - especially toward the end of the war - numbers. They could afford to lose that extra man (or thousand) to capture an objective. The Germans really ran out of numbers.

The Germans could win the war if they focused on Britain. The mainland was pretty dry of food, but the war is widely said to be the time when the Brits ate exactly what they needed to - it helped them keep fit. The Germans would be able to cripple the Brits if they could produce more subs. The best way they could do this was cut production on wasteful battleships like the Bismark. They had no point.

The Italians actually had quite a few good aircraft designs. The Italians however had too many lofty goals and needed to be train and lead better. Removing Italiy isn't the best move. Not adding Spain at all is a good move. They had just gone through a civil war. Would you expect the US to fight a world war in 1868?

The Japanese really just needed to keep to the Indonesian islands. If they gobbled up territory actually useful to them, they would have managed fine - instead of invading pointless American islands that had no economic value. This territory included Dutch East Indies and Malay - all which they had invaded successfully without getting the Americans involved in the war. Getting China under their belt would have been another major victory. However, for China, they really would have to put their backs into it. Imagine the program the Germans had to create new "living space". Make it Asian and you get what Japan was going to do with China. Japan at the time was experiencing a baby boom. That new spaces would be useful for large families.

Back to Britain. Of course, the attacks on the UK could be seen with radar, but the Germans just needed time for better aircraft. The Ho-229 could get to Britain without being detected before it was 2.5 mins away - too late for resistance to be mounted. Trust the Germans to focus in Africa. Rommel would be able to cut the Suez and increase travel times for the Brit shipping a lot. However, due to my earlier butterfly thingy, the Germans have less proper ships to attack the stream of stuff from India.

The Germans also had some really good rocket tech. Not enough to do anything in the war, but give it time and you can get bigger payloads - but I don't think that area would be prioritised. But still.

The Soviets would probably plan to roll into German lands, but if you give the Germans time to ready themselves then that offensive might be a deathtrap for Stalin. Not that it matters cause I'm talking about the Germans winning against the Brits.

By the time that the Brits would be willing to get onto the negociating table, the Germans would have been busy in Africa, conquering their resource-rich colonies. Those armies still need somewhere to fight, no? With Rommel in charge, it should be pretty simple. Plus, the only major colony the Brits would have would be India (the dominions don't count). They would be reduced to a nutshell, but I think still pretty stable as their conditional surrender (or truce/ceasefire?) would leave them in an ok position.

The Hitler problem could also solve itself. He had Parkinsons, and a crazy doctor. It would be long into the 46-47 that I think he would kick the bucket. I'll get into that later.

The German nuke. Did LG say 49? I was going to say early 50s. See, the Allies bugged a promnent German nuclear scientist's house. They found that the Germans were still quite off from the concept of developing a devent nuke.

Overall, this world would have the Germans in control of Europe, and probably a lot of Africa. The Japanese would be able to control China and the East Indies. The Philippines could be invaded, but that would depend on whether they would want to get the Americans involved.

These are my thoughts on how to get the Germans to "win". Of course, the Soviets need to be kept out of the equation, and American involvement in the Pacific to a minimum. But they could be able to learn what their future threats would be and be able to prepare...