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This has to stop
There an issue I feel I have to bring to your attention which I think is a big problem on this wiki. The problem in question is bullying.

A number of people on this wiki are subject of insults, curses and bullying. I admit, I occasionally throw in one or two, but it's unacceptable. One of the main victims involved is a certain Octivian Marius. This started with simple jabs at his poor grammar, but soon led to an entire script and story, "Revolution: The Movie", in which a rebellious renegade by the name of "Mocktavian Sorryass" (really? It's not very subtle...) attempts to take down the mighty power of the TSPTF with his trusty gang of "rebles". I'm sure you're all familiar with the story. But this all stemmed from a harmless blog post in which he unfortunately spelled a couple of words incorrectly. After the creation of this character he was mocked relentlessly, and no one took him seriously any more. He now frequently gets greeted on chat as 'Octard', despite his repeated requests not to be called that. You might all think it was in good nature, but I know what it's like, it starts of as a few funny jokes but it builds up and up and you can't take it. I know I can't tell what's going on inside his head but I can guess. I mean, what did the guy ever do to you, other than his poor grammar and spelling, ridiculous ideas, terrifyingly ASB map game nations... nevermind.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that this is not acceptable. We can't have this on a supposedly respectable establishment. This has to stop. I know I shouldn't really have a say in it, and that's why I came to you guys, the only people with the power to do something. I hope you heed my words and think of a solution.

Yours sincerely, - FP(problem?) 15:47, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

I think you are painting Oct as too much of a victim here. He has been targeted, but has also targeted others. Those of us that go on chat, including Oct, have to stop this. I include myself in this. I'm not claiming to be blameless, just that we must stop insulting each other, and bullying members of this wiki. Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Ok, maybe I did add in a bit of drama, and yeah I agree, we all just bicker a lot and occasionally it goes too far. (Of what I've seen) Chat mods don't do a thing, they're busy kicking people for squirrels. They need to get their priorities straight. - FP(problem?) 17:49, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed.

I agree with the squirrel part.



20:56, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Vandal
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Sir_Mark_Granger_(Washington_Shot_at_Murdering_Town!)

Someone block home please ❂ FOR THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA ❂ 14:48, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Really Ratc!?!


At this point, I really do not know what we should do. Here Ratc is confessing to another sockpuppet account. All of the people on chat at the time can attest to his presence, and TOB deserves the credit for making Ratc confess. 20:46, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

After observing parts of the convo which I was not really involved in, I can tell you that he meets a large number of features Ratc has previously shown - obsession for future history, video games, Deus Ex, etc. 20:48, May 21, 2014 (UTC)



More... ~Rex

Banned from chat for eternity. Bfoxius (talk)

Guys please. Let me explain!!!TerraFutura01 (talk) 20:54, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

You were banned and you must accept it. I sorry Ratc. It's for the wikis good. ❂ FOR THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA ❂ 21:02, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Rat is like a ghost. I don't think we can block him IP for forever, but we could do our best to get him away. ❂ FOR THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA ❂ 20:58, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

You were banned and you must accept it. I sorry Ratc. It's for the wikis good. ❂ FOR THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA ❂ 21:02, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Guys, please. I have been waiting a fucking goddamn month. Ok? Now can you please just stop this bullshit already. I already have problems with my parents and I dont want anymore with you guys. And remember I mentioned I needed a new PC? Well, its true. Also, I am simply feeling,bullied and unwelcome wherever I go here. And besides, I am not the same rat you guys know and love to hate ok. I just in other words, dont want to wait anymore.TerraFutura01 (talk) 21:14, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

The great Scraw says this is sockpuppetry. If you had attempted to reveal yourself beforehand, I think it might have been allowed. But this is hiding/lying/cheating/whatever you want to call it.

22:00, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

I'm kinda surprised he hasn't attacked BFE:W yet.

Also, it's sockpuppetry regardless. Rat, three more and it's a felony, and we get to contact SWAT.

22:20, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

I'm telling Wikia about the new socks.Whipsnade (talk) 14:43, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Could care less what "problems" - not that I think they are real for a second - you have. And a month into something that is forever? Pssh.

Scraw, even if he had revealed himself, would be the same block. Sockpuppeting is permanent banishment.

Lordganon (talk) 16:10, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ratc has returned once again, under the name "Ur-Quan01". Mscoree (talk) 20:59, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

He was not being silly or profane, so was it necessary to ban him. He may have changed and got help with is asperger's. give him a chance to prove him self.Whipsnade (talk) 14:36, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Um whip, that isn't a good excuse. I have Asperger's part of the Autism Spectrum and I haven't done anything that would warrant a ban. No offense but that sounds like a cop out. I still don't have help with mine and I am functioning just fine, I may get irrationally angry at time,but otherwise just fine. I'm sorry whip but I disagree and say Ratc should still be banned.ALLONS-Y!!,Basically, RUN!! 16:54, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

TSPTF talk page
On a separate note, archived TSPTF talk page after 100+ subsections made it hard to get to the page's bottom. 23:26, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Are you foreign to the "end" key on your keyboard? Or perhaps the other keys and shortcuts that take you directly to the top/bottom of a page?

23:29, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Scraw, be nice. I don't have an "end" key on my keyboard. I just go to the contents.

But isn't there some bug with Wikia where if you don't archive the page after a bunch of subsections the whole thing disappears? We had that problem with PM2, not long before the GCC...

23:30, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

As I stated, Guns, I archived the TSPTF talk page. 02:09, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Not even remotely your place to do that, Rex.

"End" is normally a shift or "fn" key and then pressing a number from the numberpad.

Lordganon (talk) 16:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Vandal
124.124.4.218, as evidenced by: this edit log. I have undone the damage, but would like to let the admin know. 05:52, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Blocked. Lordganon (talk) 16:12, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Juuh Okei
There is another vandal, 80.220.169.157. He's replacing content of pages with "juuh okei". Mscoree (talk) 19:22, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

He deleted your user page Mscoree Sky Green 24 19:24, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

I have undone all his acts of vandalism, but he continues to redo it. Mscoree (talk) 19:25, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Possibly another vandal/troll: 85.76.146.228. Appears to be making nonsensical pages. Mscoree (talk) 19:39, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Possibly the same person, both IPs are in Finland. Sky Green 24 19:46, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

So just to fill everyone in. These two IPs vandalized for some time, before the database went down (not sure if related) and remained down for about ten hours. Glad it's back up now, and it looks like staff has helped a bit. Mscoree (talk) 13:31, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, the one seems to have been more than just here - wikia actually blocked all edits to the wiki, among others, for a while. Their bots later removed the spam pages.

As for the other one, the location is probably meaningless - seems to just be an angry person.

Lordganon (talk) 15:02, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Ratc, again
GlobalConqueror is another Ratc sockpuppet, I checked his IP it is in Puerto Rico.

Sky Green 24 19:31, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Guys, hello. It's me. Yes, yes I know, it was me the entire time but I really have improved. I don't know what else you guys want from me. LG, honestly I don't know what else to say other than the fact that I ask you this one last thing:Will you and the rest of the TSPTF ever forgive me?GlobalConqueror (talk) 19:42, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Ratc, nope, you are banned for a millenium. Quit making sockpuppets. Bfoxius (talk)

Once again Ratc has returned, under the name Terminator Warrior this time.

Mscoree (talk) 15:48, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

I propose we make an "Implied Consent" rule. If a new user is acting really suspicious, then admins have the right to ask them to preform a manual IP check. Refusing will be like refusing a breathalyzer test and shall result in further investigation. Tr0llis (talk) 16:00, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Guys please, I am telling you:STOP BLOCKING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please?!TerminatorWarrior (talk) 15:58, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

No. CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 16:49, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

What part of permanent do you not understand? Lordganon (talk) 15:00, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Spartian300 Sockpuppeting
I had a map game called Look Out, Sir! Revised, which is now defunct. But, besides that, a man signed up to play the USA, by the name of 'Eastest566'. He posted a couple of turns and disappeared, removing his name. A day or two after that Spartian posted this on the talk page: Link. I thought I would just bring this to your attention. Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 16:04, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Taken care of CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 16:50, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Whoa whoa wait. Wasn't this already brought the TSPTF like a month ago and they determined he wasn't a sockpuppet? Tr0llis (talk) 16:52, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Crim this was already reported to the TSPTF (see Archive Three), at which point it was determined that when Spartian made that confession he didn't even know what sockpuppeting meant. You should probably look into the matter before  banning him. Mscoree (talk) 16:55, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

And this is why doing this from a mobile device is a bad idea. CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 17:04, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Okay fair enough. All I'm saying is it warrants further investigation first, since he was tried for this crime previously and found innocent. Mscoree (talk) 17:07, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Crim, you're still here?

04:48, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

It's hard to let go (inb4 frozen reference) CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 05:13, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

I think this is irrelevent. Spartian300 (talk) 17:01, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

BridgittLaura
This one is suddenly appeared last two days and making extensive editing in on America Takes All Lands From Mexico And Ottoman Empire TL. Then, user AmericaLoove also suddenly missed and not even disturbed BridgittLaura's editings.

BridgittLaura has a very bad grammar, has not a best ability to write, speak, or understands English, and has a similar fond for Bella Thorne, all of characteristics that almost like AmericaLoove. She(?) also did a copyright infringement for blatanly copying my Italy (Cherry, Plum, and Chrysanthemum) page for her Italy (America Takes All Lands From Mexico And Ottoman Empire) page.

Lately, she stupidly asked on the forum discussion for being appointed as an admin of wiki. (http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:148709#3)

FirstStooge (talk) 11:44, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

I noticed the other day in chat both these users came on and were conversing in a similar manner. It was the first time I had seen either of them in chat, and after they were both on they both left. I'm not sure if that helps, but that's what I witnessed so far. Mscoree (talk) 14:09, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Seems less "there" than AL, to me. Blocked for spam for three days.

FS, using another article as a base in some form like that is not an infringement. They may have failed at it, but that was surely the attempt.

Lordganon (talk) 15:06, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

May i be an admin? Spartian300 (talk) 17:02, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Spartian, on this wiki you cannot get a promotion simply by asking. Please read the rules on the TSPTF page on how to apply. Asking for a promotion won't help. Mscoree (talk) 17:47, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

It was more or less a joke. Spartian300 (talk) 22:41, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

MattyMG13
I've recently got a message from this user here. Apparently, Yankovic270 and some others on chat went to jump the gun thinking he was Ratc and thus led him to be banned from chat. Me, thinking he was actually a Ratc sockpuppet (seeing as Yank banned him), I went to ban him for 1000 Years.

However with that message he really doesn't seem to be Ratc at all. What should I do? Should I unban him? What do you all think? -Seiga  2014 May 29, 00:28 (CET)

We need actual evidence to confirm if he is Ratc or not. Lately people have been harassing every new user in chat and I don't think that is a good policy. Innocent until proven guilty, not witch hunts on chat. I would propose an IP check normally, but this user seems distinctly not Ratc. Usually when we catch Ratc we at least have evidence (such as a manual IP check), but here it looks like Yank just shot first and asked questions later. For now I'd say unban him until we have some sort of actual evidence. Mscoree (talk) 22:42, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

From now on, i suggest that we should greet each new user, and make sure that we know who they are. Spartian300 (talk) 22:45, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Why'd Yank ban him in the first place?

I say unban him, but run an IP check just to be safe.

22:52, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Not a fan of the new harassment policy. Tr0llis (talk) 22:55, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Matty is actually a user on several other wikis. And he can spell and use English properly, something that Ratc could never seem to manage. Cour *talk* 23:31, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ninjasvswarriors
The user Ninjawarrior has confessed to being a sockpuppet.



I believe this confirms my earlier appeal here. Mscoree (talk) 00:41, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Right so, Ninjas told me his IP;

114.43.147.247.

He wants the TSPTF to know that he has been only using this account ever since his ban (Don't ask me about the details, that's the message I got on the talk page)

He also wants to tell that FlyingNinjapanda is an older sockpuppet

Now I don't know how he behaved as Alexlee, but he seems to have improved his ability to control his sinocentrism (if I recall correctly, that was one of his identifiable traits) and his English. Of course I do agree that he should be blocked for creating sockpuppets, but maybe, just maybe, not permanently blocked.

That would be all, sincerely, Sky Green 24 13:44, May 29, 2014 (UTC)