User talk:Caeruleus



Mitro 15:44, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Asia for the Asiatics!!
Ever read ''Sixth Column? ''Sounds a lot like your ATL. BoredMatt 13:24, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've heard of it, but it will be nothing like that. The Sixth Column involves the conquest of America by a United Asia, and it is told in an extremely racist way. My ATL is more just about Japan winning World War II, in a less brutal way than OTL, and having a independent, democratic Asia in late 1940s that goes on to become the third superpower in the Cold War and a major economic engine for the world.

Caeruleus 13:35, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sultanate of Turkey (1983: Doomsday)
Your contribution to 1983: Doomsday is looking pretty good. I have started grounds to graduate it in the next day if no other objections interfere. My only problem is the amount of land it controls. If you could tone it down just a bit, then I think it'll be okay. Arstarpool 03:24, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll try to tone down the rapid expansion a bit then. Thank you though. Caeruleus 18:11, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Any final objections to graduation for my article? Caeruleus 22:09, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Did you tone it down? I've seen the map, and it pretty much controls all of Turkey. You should keep it at the southern end, and just slowly add more land in over time, and by time I mean real time. Arstarpool 16:59, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The map is a 2010 map. They expand to control all of Turkey over the course of 25 years and several wars. Caeruleus 17:01, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

That new Med. map is good, though it may be a good idea to not have Egypt have such a flat western border.

Lordganon 09:54, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

That's its OTL border and there's no reason why that would change, unless they've expanded into Libya to which I'm unaware. Caeruleus 20:06, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

It's not written anywhere, but if you look at the map on the Egypt page you'll see the Egyptians have made some lakes inside the OTL Libyan borders. At any rate, as far as I can remember, while the Egyptians have given up rights to Southeast/East Libya, they did control the region at one point.

Lordganon 10:46, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Assistance
Hey, dude, I need your help, I think Macedonia is about to enter the canon, but Mitro says I need proof that Alexander had access to a bunker, I need you, or sombeody else who you think can, to help me, please and thanks. Ownerzmcown 03:20, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Seriously? Just tell him you assume as such because most deposed monarchs have access to substantial funds and a small entourage that tries to ensure their safety. If that doesn't work, just ell him you made it up. It's impossible to account for every detail in history, especially in a non-professional situation like this. Caeruleus 03:39, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hey if you can could you vote on the main talk page of the site on the issue at the bottom of the page.

PS:Turkey is looking much better now. Arstarpool 02:29, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I assume you were talking about the future map section?

So, graduation soon then? Caeruleus 02:59, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, the main page of the site, not 1983DD. Please vote on that issue if you may, as it involves me, but vote honestly.

If nobody objects than I assume Turkey will be canon around 1-5 days from now. Arstarpool 03:37, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Great. Caeruleus 04:17, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

A Warning from a friend
I have read on 4 seperate talk pages that you have been, err, kind of not-so-nice to some of our users, one of them being me. As somebody who defended your Sultanate of Turkey I would tread lightly when speaking bad to other users, because I could easily withdraw my support. As a member of the TSPTF, even though I am a mere "constable" it is my duty to watch out for rude behavior and/or mean words.

I am not saying that you are being mega-mean, but I just noticed a couple of sharp comments to people, especially Mr. Xeight. Just make sure this behavior comes to a standstill, okay? I'm just trying to help, thats all. Arstarpool 00:07, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I tell them I think they're wrong, as I said to you. If they choose to take personal offense, that's their own prerogative. People have said the same to me, and I take no offense to that. It's intellectual criticism, that is all. Though, since you seem to be midly bothered by this, I'll attempt to lighten up. Caeruleus 03:05, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not mildly bothered, but I just don't want what happened to me to happen to you. Believe me, its hard to get sleep when I was facing expulsion and it was for a moderately higher version of your remarks. Arstarpool 03:21, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, thank you then. Caeruleus 03:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, thank you then. Caeruleus 03:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Negotiations
Well, Caeruleus, after contemplation of our interactions, I've come to the reality that it was I who was the bad guy here, not you. You are trying for the best, that's all. Thought it's always hard, I would like to apologize to you. That's why I'd like to propose we "fix" some things.
 * The settlements near Rhodes were meant to be a few villages of less than one thousand citizens each, not a territory the size of Maine (or Texas on some maps), it was only when I saw an expansionistic Turkey on my border that I expanded the borders (or rather kept my mouth silent when they were shown to be much larger than I ever dreamed of or wanted). I'd be willing to peacefully return them to Turkey.
 * While Greece and Turkey were at odds with each other for centuries, if not a millenia. In the Modern Era Turkey and Greece are putting behind their differences for the most part (or at least trying to), and surprisingly, a Turkish citizen told me once that even the citizens of Constantinople are starting to look back at their East Roman heritage and look at the Young Turk Movement as a movement of the last generation. So, things might not be as bad as jingoists make them seem. Now, Doomsday is going to involve a rather give-and-take kind of thing, and perhaps Turkey would be willing to share European Thrace (maybe a small nub of Bythinia, but even I doubt so) with Rhodope, Macedonia, and Greece. Constantinople and Edirne are semi-radioative ruins, and the instability of the area would be incredibly tragic, and not even Turkey would be able to administer it alone (nor would Greece to be honest in the long run). If it shares the burden (and the benefits), then things might not be so bad for everyone involved. While in the modern era Thrace is firmly Turkish, it was at one time Greek-speaking and still the home of the Bishop of Constantinople, as you know the most influential of bishops of the Patriarchate of Constantinople. That would be Turkey's give and take.
 * I can move those approximately 5-12 thousand villagers to the Thracian-Reclamation Zone to get them out of your hair.
 * While the suffering both groups and empires suffered at the other's hands will never be forgotten, perhaps they can be for the most part forgiven. The Delian League (the most liberal of the states) and the Republic of the Holy Mountain (by far the most spiritual) would be willing to push forth an apology letter to attrocities committed on the Turks and Jews of Greece by the Greek people.
 * I'd willing to condominiumize Cyprus as well; although Greek Cypriots might be the majority, they're the only ethnicity in the area.
 * If say Turkey would gain a grudging respect and even friendly relations with Greece, it might perhaps feel inclined to join the Second Sicily War and if and when the ADC wins the Tunisian Territory of Sicily might go under Turkish administration; afterall, who would the Muslim Tunisians prefer? Greeks, ADC'ers (all of which are Europeans), or Turks?

What do you say, care to change history? It might not be encouraged, but it can be done. Mr.Xeight 00:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well this is certainly an interesting proposal. I'll consider. Though, first the article has to be officially graduated before any true negotiation can begin. Any help you can give in clearing any remaining opposition would be greatly appreciated. Caeruleus 00:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Second Empire of Trabzon
I completed a highly-detailed, long, article on the Second Empire of Trabzon, digging through all your sources in the Sultanate of Turkey (1983: Doomsday) article and the Eastern Turkish Wasteland (1983: Doomsday) page to help create the history of the nominal successor state to Greek Trebizond. I hope you are satisfied and if you feel there is anything with the page that needs revising, message me about it. I would like to hear what you think. --Emperor of Trebizond 01:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I love it. Good work. See the article's talk page for more. Caeruleus 01:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think the Second Empire of Trabzon should have the same flag as the first Empire of Trebizond? It would be an interesting little detail about the empire that connects it to the old Byzantine state. Maybe, we could also change the original Greek flag a little by adding a crescent in the center for the new Trabzon nation.--Emperor of Trebizond 13:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a good idea. Caeruleus 15:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

State of Elazig
After much consideration, I have decided to offer to continue in my project for the Eastern Turkish Wasteland states. I would like to write an article on the State of Elazig as of current. If you approve, I will write it and put as much work into it as I did into the Second Empire of Trabzon.--Emperor of Trebizond 01:38, August 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. I look forward to see what you come up with. Caeruleus 01:45, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I started work on the State of Elazig (1983: Doomsday) article. Tell me how you like it so far. I expect to be finished completely with it before the week is up.--Emperor of Trebizond 02:33, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like it. However, I imagined the State of Elazig as slightly less brutal and somewhat democratic in the upper classes, but it is your article. You may do with it what you wish. It is good nonetheless. Nice work once again. Caeruleus 04:03, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

What do you think of the finished 'State of Elazig article? If you see any corrections that need to be made or inconsistent continuity problems, please contact me and I will change them.--Emperor of Trebizond 16:15, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * You should remove the references to Georgian, Armenian, and Soviet leaders as part of the state. Elazig is too far away from the front to enable them to reach the area in order to join the government. Other than that, the article is great. Good work once again. Caeruleus 17:06, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand. I already corrected that problem. I wrote out the Soviet references and wrote into the finished article that the Turkish troops agreed to a ceasefire on the front, then spent days retreating back through Turkey to reach a stable zone, Elazig. They didn't take any of the Russian, Georgian, and Armenian commanders with them. --Emperor of Trebizond 17:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm...I must have read it wrong. You did remove those references, so the article is fine. Caeruleus 17:36, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Iraq Discussions
I wanted to let you know I got back from vacation last week. However, I have been spending some time addressing long overdue areas on my Delmarva article. This though does not preclude us from beginning our discussion on Iraq. I have been reading the Iraq page and noting the discussions of the last several days. Per our earlier conversation, I just wanted to confirm it will only be us writing the article in case any inquiries come your way. Given how long it takes to communicate in here at times, I was wondering if there was any way quicker we could exchange thoughts. If you have any suggestions, let me know. Thanks.--Fxgentleman 00:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Set a time, and we can try to meet up on the Althist Wiki IRC. Or we can exchange emails? And yes, it will just be us writing this article. Caeruleus 01:59, September 3, 2010 (UTC)