User talk:Scrawland Scribblescratch/Archive 1

Templates
Quit messing with those templates.

If you want you party to have a different color, then either change the name of your party, or otherwise add it. But do not change those templates.

Those templates are universal. By messing with them you are adjusting dozens of articles.

Lordganon 06:53, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

No worries, I know it's not at all obvious, lol. Lordganon 01:48, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

digging your Roosevelt timeline and story, keep it up its very interestin

 (Birchman34 04:35, February 9, 2012 (UTC))

Film in Napoleon's World
Have a look at this.

Scraw, ask King before you add things like that again, please. You violated the rules, minorly, as well in doing so.

Lordganon 07:09, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

You did a great job, why would i be mad?
you did me a faovr, and i always say you cant be mad at soeone for helping you out. and i wont roll it back. if you take over britain in vive la revolution again hough, dont let anyone take my land, if Canada trys to break away again, send in the army and destroy the rebels as peacefully as possible, or just strike out Canadas post. im at the library, and i have 5 minutes left. thanks for your help dude, i apreciate it. DeanSims 22:44, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Dravimos Pictures
Yes I noticed you were using Star Wars pictures. That's cool. I'm using the Elite Ultra from Halo Reach, and I'll use their spaceships too, just haven't got around to that yet. Anyway, how does my species article look? Yours looks pretty good. Monster Pumpkin 15:15, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try expanding on that soon. Good luck in the game. Monster Pumpkin 18:12, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

its alright dude, I probably would have tought the same thing. so no biggie. thanks for your help man, i apreciate it. DeanSims 19:00, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

alright, thanks dude. DeanSims 19:24, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Can You take over my countire for me while Im Gone Again?
can you DeanSims 17:55, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

cool, here they are
 * 1) Principia Moderni: The ICR, coninute expanding by 1,250 kilometers every tunr, thats all you have to post.
 * 2) Allies vs Entente: Germany: Stay at peace as best you can. Mexico: Dont you dare give up any land to Venezuala or any country and stay at peace as best you can., offer Venezuala aid in conquering Ecuador and Colombia, but keep fighting until they stop making territorial demands, if they dont agree, launch a massive invasion and capture there capitol and offer them pre-war borders adn a trade deal with Mexican aid in conqering Ecuador and Colombia.
 * 3) Vive La Revolution: Britain: Dont give any colony indepedance, and say that all Britsh colonies are beign expanded every turn. Canada is still Britsh, so dont you dare let Canada gain independance.
 * 4) Subterranian Europe: Sweden: Just keep peacefully expanding into unclaimed Russia and establsih colonies in North America. Dont post on a already do0ne tunr, I get banned from the game temporarily if you do.
 * 5) Battle for Earth: Just say that the Byzantine Empire contniues to evacuate Mars while China coninutes to protect Afkar and safely secure his space plans. Say that Afkar 1 lands near the Martian south pole, which is far from any BE settlemnt
 * 6) Greater Americas: Just try and stay at peace. you are Brazil. say all colonies expand. Keep the Incan Empire on your good side and dont give up any land. Offer Europe an allaince.
 * 7) that should do it. if you need to email me while Im gone here is the adress: [mailto:numbsong@mail.com numbsong@mail.com]
 * 8) thanks, i should be on the wiki until 2 and half hours more at most today and an hour at least. so thanks dude. DeanSims 18:26, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

states of america is dead. ave is lready taken care of. thanks for doing this for me man, i apreciate it. DeanSims 18:40, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hey. Everytime you make an map for Vive La Revolution, the French colonies continue to expand into mine (American colonies), and I would appreciate it if you stopped. Please excuse me if I sound rude. Enclavehunter 00:00, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Enclavehunter 00:16, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

BoE
I gotz bored. Bobalugee1940 00:52, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

re: Battle for Earth
I haven't even added to the stupid joke zone since its creation (a hint on how some of my other projects are doing). But gotta love Star Wars. May the Force be with you! CrimsonAssassin 13:04, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

New AvsE game
Hey, I was thinking of starting the new Allies vs Entente game tomorrow, and I was wonderring if you would like to be co-creator :).

One problem, what should it be named? Allies vs Entente is a misnomer, and I was thinking Triple Entente vs. Triple Alliance. Enclave also suggested Triple Entente vs. Central Powers. Which one do you think is better? Monster Pumpkin 02:33, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

I agree on the Alliance part, as that was the precursor to the Central Powers. I don't have time to make the game tonight, and I have school tomorrow, so I'll have to make it after school. Let's start it on Saturday if that is okay by you. Monster Pumpkin 02:47, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the Triple Entente was not formed until 1907, so it is very possible that WW1 turns out differently. The way I had in mind for it to work was very similar to Axis vs Allies Reloaded, where the starting map is the same, but it turns out differently. Also, I don't see how the map is wrong, as I looked it up and the nations were right. It might have to be fixed, but not the whole map. Monster Pumpkin 23:10, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well what parts do you have problems with? Morocco wasn't assigned to France until 1905, and even then didn't become part of France until 1912. Both Transvaal and the OFS survived for another year. Anything else I can't think of, but it should be fine as it was. Monster Pumpkin 23:20, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Alternity Films
That wasn't actually the case. All I did was add Godzilla films to the list. But yes, you got me. I AM a Star Wars, and I am spazzing over Darth Maul's return! BNSF1995, Alive since 1995 02:37, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Pictures
Good eye! Well, I lifted most of those pictures from Wikipedia or Bing, so I don't own any of them if that's what your asking.

Maurice Napoleon I = Louis XX, French Bourbon pretender

Albert II = Albert II of Belgium

Old Sebastien = No clue, I usually use the Louis Ferdinand

Albert I = Some German guy, I've only ever found one picture

Nicholas II = Haakon VI, King of Norway

Alexander I = Gustav VI of Sweden

Alexander III = Harald V of Norway

KingSweden 03:25, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Vive la Revolution: Something about France.....
Hi it's me, the other person that controls France since we both share France a little, I just want to tell you to stay wary of the British and the U.S, it's completely obvious they are going to panic at French growth and attack. I think it would be best to avoid war with them- for a fact, I think we got a good chance winning, though it's not total domination, invasion of the British isles and all, just a slight victory that will change a little of the map. So again, I tell you, pay attention to the U.S and Britain, of course, I think it would be nice for us to stay peacful with them. Ianian58 22:48, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

take over my countries agaisn?
could you please? DeanSims 17:22, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

ok, thanks, you and enclave hunter are going to do it since i have a lot of countires.\

here are yours:
 * Principia Moderni: The ICR, coninute expanding by 1,500 kilometers every tunr, thats all you have to post.


 * 2.Battle for Earth: Just say that the Byzantine Empire contniues to colonize Mars while China coninutes to protect Afkar and safely secure his space plans. Say that Afkar 1 lands near the Martian south pole, which is far from any BE settlemnt


 * 3. Central Powers vs Allies (or wahtever its called): ottoman empire: continue to expand and modernize the army and navy while researching heavier than air flgiht.


 * thanks


 * DeanSims 17:32, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Poetic Justice
On your takpage you have said you like Star Trek (you also said you're Coservative, I don't like the Conservatives!!), well I like it too. So as DD has a Star Wars themed nation, it would only be poetic justice that there was one for Star Trek as well. I would start it off like there was a group of people watching TGN (was it airing at the time?) or one of the Kirk movies when the nukes came. This group will be off around 12 people. They will begin a journey to establish a community where they can survive peacefully and they will discover that the "teachings" of Spock will help them survive, such as the supression of emotion so that they don't break down in hard times. Eventually it will grow to around a few hundred, maybe even a thousand! Then the original founders will proclaim the "United Federation fo Cities" and the "Federation Charter" will be signed by many small villages and towns in the area. If you like the idea, I will post more, so response please!! :D Imperium Guy 22:44, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, ok. Liberal, not bad. For thir god, I would say it would have to be Spock, lol! :D Imperium Guy 22:54, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

I have nothing against the democrats of America, but I hold no interest in American Politics. I am British, and the 3 main parties are Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democats (LibDems). I hate the Conservatives and our current Prime Minister David Cameron. Lokks like some parties never change, lol... :D Imperium Guy 18:04, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Copy Editor
Well then You are my new copy editor sir! ha zahhhhh! Any help you want to give through editing is greatly appreciated. Thank you for the interest in Pax Columbia. I am honored by your request. Cheers to you, good sir.CassAnaya 01:23, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I will fully admit i have made that mistake in the past. If you are talking about the Napoloen picture, it is altered because he has a green coat, reflecting an italian heritage and a green rather than blue uniform. :>) Thank you for the compliment, I have a degree in Digital Animation and I am using this wiki as a little bit of photoshop practice. If you ever have something really juicey you want me take a stab at, then let me know. Do you have photoshop> Are you a photoshopper? CassAnaya 00:51, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

UFC
I was thinking to tone it to a a bit more serious at places. So it would become like this:

The United Federation of Cities is an unrecognized nation located somewhere in the Central Former USA. It is a combination of several villages and small cities. The citizens of the UFC follow the strict code of life led by Almighty Lord Spock which has helped them survive after Doomsday.

History:

On Doomsday, some 12 Trekkies were eating popcorn and watching a VCR tape of the Wrath of Khan when the bombs fell. These trekkies did not know what to do, although they did have a bit of knowledge on living in the wild outdoors.

These trekkies wandered for many months and were on the verge of emotional breakdown (not to mention starvation) when one of the trekkies figured out the solution: logic. They would try to suppress all harmful emotion and take the path of logic led by Lord Spock. This solution helped them amass a large crowd, in the few 100s and they managed to wander to a nice farming location in central former USA.

LIfe was tough to begin with, but eventually the crops grew and they were helped by the extra rainfall. After the first successful harvest, an sacrifice was offered to the Almighty Lord Spock. The population grew as more refugees arrived and soon nearby villages and towns saw the life which the people of Vulan (the name of the town they occupied) lived in and wanted to bask in the same success.

This lead to the signing of the Federation charter (in ?), where Vulan and other towns all became part of the UFC. It also established Spockism as their main religion and many of the citizens of the UFC began to follow the teachings of Lord Spock.

What do you think? Any stuff you want to add? :D Imperium Guy 20:42, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

If it hasn't got the proposal template on the page, its canon!! How do you think it should go on from there (the signing of the charter)? :D Imperium Guy 20:55, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

That is a good idea! So continuation, here goes:

One of the original 12 trekkies, (name), was chosen to become the leader of the UFC. He became the first "Admiral Kirk of the UFC", and ordered the construction of the UCS Enterprise. The UCS Enterprise in fact was a rundown bus which would be renovated and would transport the Kirk and his government. Some cities objected to this and eventually broke away, believing that all resouces should be spent on increasing crop production. When the UFC continued to do well, these cities found no choice but to rejoin the Federation as their people starved.

Over the years, more towns joined and the increased populace has been beneficial to the production of crops. Spockism grew hugely in the Federation and in a census (date), over 78% of the population stated they were Spockist.

How's that so far? I think I will add more if you like this!! :D Imperium Guy 21:11, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Lol (for the bus). That seems quite good and well done for creating the proposal!! :D Imperium Guy 22:06, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Star War is not better than Star Trek!! :P Imperium Guy 22:15, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Um, 9/Kogasa and Alex also have flags if I am not wrong!! I am not sure if anybody else has flags in their names, cause they are the only ones I know of. :D Imperium Guy 22:31, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the message. Is HSE really that good, for my first?

And actually, there are some subcategories. I'm just really lazy when it comes to that. SpanishSpy 01:30, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. I would have thought some of it would have been called ASB (I have Winged Hands of the Reich for that}. SpanishSpy 01:43, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Considering the Soviet Union wins WWIII in the 1950's with a massive blitzkrieg into Germany (and lands in Alaska, even forces territorial concessions), I was a bit afraid of being called ASB. SpanishSpy 01:47, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Your Timeline
The usage of the word "Canada" in an unofficial manner dates back decades - at least a century - before that war. And, in 1791, the colonies were officially renamed to "Upper Canada" and "Lower Canada." It was the name of the area at the time (though Quebec would argue that one)

All of otl Canada, highly unlikely. Really, anything further than otl Southern Ontario and Southern Quebec is really not going to be plausible in that context.

UK was barely involved at all in NA - really, it was the colonists that kept beating the stuffing out of the US forces. The most that any such defeat means is that a couple thousand more British troops get sent.

Couple thousand, no net difference anywhere else.

N Wars wouldn't last any longer. Napoleon has already fled Russia two years prior, and was getting clobbered by everyone.

The Battle of Lundy's Lane was in 1814. There is really nothing at that stage you can do to take British territory. Within a year, massive numbers of British regulars are coming - and that would be the end of that. Best it means is that the Treaty is slightly better, in the end, for the USA.

Makes no sense to take that assortment of states. Be very hard to defend. The Texas border, however, is a river - simple to defend.

Mexicans beat the snot of of Walker's Sonora. Really, his claim to have controlled more than a couple of towns was, at best, laughable.

No way the Americans annex Mexico. Think about how well that would fly today, and double it for how it would have went in the 1800s.

As for Space Travel, and Moon bases.... it's possible for most timelines with a PoD before ~1980 or so to have something at least leaning in that direction. However, it's only really plausible for the ones that hold slight technological edges, and the Aztec one is an example of that.

Lordganon 08:22, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Canada was the name of the area at the time.

Fact of the matter is, Lundy's Lane was a small battle, and even in a victory for the US, would have little impact. Let's put it this way - the Battle of the Thames was a major US victory, and well inside of the border. Yet, it held no impact. Simply put, the American ability to actually do anything was little - something which, as I suspect might be the case here, schools in the USA tend to never mention.

Heck, in 1812, the USA stands no chance of winning such a battle, even remotely. There's a reason why the US military didn't win many times until the last year of fighting. And even if they somehow managed to eke out a win at a different Lundy's Lane, they sure as heck would not win the second battle.

It's not only the British that are better, but even the militias the US fought against were far better, and turned back many invasion attempts on their own. Truthfully, I cannot begin to emphasize just how big the gap between American forces and their opponents actually was - and not in favor of the US.

Not true at all about armies. Rather, it is the start of a war that holds that result.

Had nothing to do with Liverpool. Virtually everyone knew that. Really, had he failed to get a peace, he'd have been voted out and someone in favor of it voted in.

As I said, the best you can really get is the border disputes going slightly more in favor of the USA. Maybe a few islands in the Great Lakes, such as in the Thousand Islands region, get transferred. Nothing major.

Lordganon 22:27, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

EvsC
You could, but I talked to him and I don't think he plans on resigning, his computer was just having trouble. You could still join as Italy or some other nation if you want. :) Monster Pumpkin 17:24, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

yes I do agree with that, but turkey looks cooler on it. ima firin ma lazar!!!!! o(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 20:16, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. And no, I have an few that were fails, my best one so fat is Pauvre Monde and Nationalist china. Enclavehunter 03:18, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a Name ? I am new at writting althistory! and have a plan to get us to Europa and Beyond without breaking the warp barrier. So no I'm not yanking your chain. Chris for Space Race Didn't End

Thanks Scraw, I'd like to work on for awhile and develope my ideas... i have the problem of alot racing into my head and I have to organize as I go but I will get it all out. Chris

I think World War One would occur, but would be swift, and that is as far as I know, I'm still putting the pieces together. Enclavehunter 05:36, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

wanna join?

476 AD: Rome Is Falling (Map Game)
DeanSims 17:01, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

what is your deal?!?!?!?!?!
why are instantly my enemy, waht did I do?!? I just play the game, and Britan could issue a Monroe Doctrine like procalmation becasue beleive it or not, Britain offered to do a joint one with America in OTL in 1822, which actauly caused the USA to publish the Monroe Doctrine. DeanSims 17:09, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

fair enough on the name for the doctrine, and i gave Alaska and most of northern Canada to independant Canada. I can colonize just as fast as France, look at our world, Britain got a much bigger peace fo the pie than France, asks anyone. DeanSims 17:22, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

alright, im sorry. if you want you can be a mod on the map game. DeanSims 18:17, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

didntlike being number 5 on the mod list huh? ;) DeanSims 18:33, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

sorry i typed in caps at you. and about misspelling your name, honest accident there. DeanSims 18:38, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Franz Lives
Hey again. I was wondering if you could read my timeline for Franz Lives. Enclavehunter 22:37, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Your User Page
Just letting you know: In the German language section of you're personal infobox, you have "Latin" as opposed to "Deutsch" oder "German". Ich kann auch Deutsche sprechen. Callumthered 06:18, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

VIRR
I don't think he should be Great Britain or an mod either. I say putting Great Britain under mods control, and ask DeanSims to play as an different country (and not an big one). I think we should have his mod status taken away. Enclavehunter 17:36, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

all i AM DOING IS DEFNDING MYSELF, HE STARTED IT. you know what evryoen on this frickin wiki thinks im a dumbass deutchbag anyway, if you want me, I will be on The Banned Wiki DeanSims 19:55, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

You know what, I am also tired of this and I am ready to end it. RandomWriterGuy 20:11, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki
You have your own wiki?! RandomWriterGuy 20:30, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Pauvre Monde
Okay. The numbers I put in random, as I'm not good with politics. For the islands, one is the Philippines. Another one is Iceland. The three near Florida is the Carribean (Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic, and Bahamas), the small red one is Bermuda, and then the largest of the "islands" is Liberia, which is actually located on continent, but brought near the US to get all the states into the map. Enclavehunter 23:49, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

As I said, I'm not good with politics. But I just edited the map, and brought the numbers to about the same number of Texas and California in OTL 2008 presidential election. Enclavehunter 23:52, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Airwolf Wiki
i need a spot of help at Airwolf Wiki, i want to tweek the look of the wiki a bit. (new back ground pic and i believe it called a name space pic?) if you can,and would, help i will see to giveing you the admin rights you would need to do this. if you are to busy then that's ok as well. thanks in advance.Wingman1 03:37, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Online/Offline
lol, I don't think anyone else has copied it yet, but it is useful. More so than flags in your signature, lol. I havn't copied that yet, but can you explain to me how to because I don't know how to. Monster Pumpkin 02:48, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Nominated Timeline
Lol, I noticed that you did that, and I did post a few objections to it, however, you can dispute those if you want. I appreciate the nomination, however. :) Monster Pumpkin 05:15, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

GIFs
Well I'm hardly the Doyen of the GIF world but yeah I can help you out. Right well to make GIFs I use a programme known as Animation shop (its a sister program to PaintShopPro).

So yeah you need to download it from somewhere; now I managed to find a 30 day trail for it on C-Net but I personally got the full thing off my dad's copy of the CD, so I'm not too sure how limiting that trail is going to be. This may be helpful in trying to download it too. I found this too. But have a look around the interwebs & see if you can find yourself a copy of Animation Shop.

Alternatively instead of Animation Shop, you could try Window's Movie Maker, as seen in this video.

But once you have a suitable GIF animator program, its usually just a matter of dragging & dropping the images into the order that you want.

Hope that helps :) VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 11:19, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Map Games
I saw your message on the Battle for Earth Page, and we indeed have a problem. Map games seem to be declining at the moment, and we must keep them going somehow. I think the both of us should try to keep them constant. Monster Pumpkin 04:15, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

The GA (Revised)
Hey, I saw that you like the Greater Americas Timeline. Me and a couple of others (namely Imperium Guy and TacoCopper) might be making a revised version so you are free to come along and play if we make it. FP 16:01, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, it's a big might, but it is going to be in the near future, not right now. FP 13:02, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Human Evolution 3
Will you please play in the third Human Evolution map game? I would realy appreciate it. MattiasWestby 20:57, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

The Wiki
Don't know why on earth you thought that was ok to do. Not your place, SS, at all.

Past that, there is already a template that does the exact same thing.

Lordganon 01:51, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you are trying to pull Scrawland, making it look like there are some rules that make him have to appoint at least 4 moderators on the map game, multiple mapmakers, and have people be able to sign up for moderators. Not one of those is a rule at all. Do not try and make up fake regulations to try and get people to do what you want. What you did was deceitful, plain and simple. You should send the Matthias user a message telling him you are sorry for lieing to him and making up fake rules he had to follow and resign from the position on the map game that you tricked him into giving you. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:55, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Next time, do not present your advice as a rule, and do not scold the user for not following your advice. Follow those things, and you will be fine. :) LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:16, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

LordGanon deleted it, but for some reason it was still showing up later. Manually delete the code from the pages.

Also, I am sorry for being a bit harsh-worded in my reproaches. I don't take back anything I said, but I probably could have phrased it in a less aggressive manner. . So sorry for that. Ah, these map games cause so much drama! LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:21, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

No. You did not "need to get through to anyone."

What you did was deceitful, wrong, and against several rules. Moreover, it was not in the least your place to even consider such a thing.

It is painfully obvious that you were attempting to influence others by pretending to be an admin, or in a similar capacity.

The only reason you have not been blocked for months is because after I missed the extent originally, you have showed remorse, and Lurk has already dealt with it.

Do not ever do something like this again.

Lordganon 06:42, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

You lied to me!
I have heard that the whole message you left on my page was a lie! And I thought I actually trusted you! You are off the map game! MattiasWestby 02:02, April 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * The advice itself was good, the lie was that it was official. Generally, I would consider it to be poor moderation to block people on map games for things they did that were not part of the map game. I would recommend just removing him from the moderator position you gave thinking you had to, but I would not ban him from the map game. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:06, April 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I should delete this right away. MattiasWestby 20:26, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

TGAr
I saw you were interested in playing TGA, and I think you might like the idea of playing the revised version (link is in the header). Many nations await... :D Imperium Guy 13:23, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5
Welcome to the game. You are now an official mod. MattiasWestby 20:25, April 9, 2012 (UTC)