User talk:Daeseunglim

KI 2012
...Do you mean a list of nation articles, or a link to a page with said links on it? Lordganon (talk) 09:40, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

I mean a link to a page with a list of nations with the links to the individual nations. ThanksDaeseunglim (talk) 14:57, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Link for a nations page has been put on the page as requested. Lordganon (talk) 09:03, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Not plausible in the least.

For the record - remember that North Korea cannot hit any targets further east than Wake Island or so.

Lordganon (talk) 09:29, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Was not deleted - I moved it so that it followed the naming rules of this wiki. Look for an article with the old name, followed by your timeline name in brackets. Lordganon (talk) 06:45, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

There's a link on your "nations" page. Lordganon (talk) 07:19, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I see a bit of the problem now - the mountain is indeed called Cheyenne, but the area is not. Cheyenne is a entirely separate city.

Sorry, but not only would a far larger weapon target that area, but it would also be multiple warheads. There is far more than one target of the highest priority in that area.

There is literally no way it could possibly survive like that - it would never be a capital of anything.

Lordganon (talk) 09:35, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

NORAD command would move back into the mountain at the first real signs of war, though that doesn't help the region any - it still disappears. Lordganon (talk) 10:06, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Apoc:2012
Hey Daes,

My timeline is basically a nuclear war that occurs on the 21st of December. Unfortunatly due to the fact I am a uni student with a job, I am unable to upload the full set of info onto the website from my head. This here is a link to the Targets Page but I need to complete the random data input for North America. Your timeline sounds interesting but due to aforementioned reasons I will be unable to contribute a significant amount. I will check it out and maybe help when I get time off. Scandinator (talk) 12:45, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

There are another two people interested in that area. I believe both of you can create nations and states in that area without too many disputes. It was a highly populated area and many strikes divided the people with radioactive zones. Scandinator (talk) 02:29, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

I reckon that should be fine. You have a lot of room for expanding that state too. I'm not sure if the population of the area is that high though. I will have to review it when you finish. Scandinator (talk) 16:07, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Republic of Susquehanna
I replied to your post on the Night of the Living Alternate History (Map Game) talk page.

Your nation sounds great! Be warned, you might have some trouble with Pennsylvania since they want to keep their territory. If you want to continue as the Republic of Susquehanna you can add it to the nations page. Welcome to the game! Mscoree (talk) 20:05, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Rebuild
Hi, I'm playing Rebuild as the UK, and they don't appear to have been hit, is that accurate? Local (talk) 07:51, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

I think that you missed the fact that the US had missiles in the UK at the time Local (talk) 12:31, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Futura Terra Map Game
You're invited to the map game that is soon going to be release called Futura Terra. It is on it's own separate wiki and is still under development by. Feel free to message me back if you're interested.

The link to the game: http://futura-terra-map-game.wikia.com/wiki/Futura_Terra_Map_Game_Wiki

Best Regards,

Edboy452 (talk) 01:43, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Green Party
I left you a note on your Republic of Susquehanna page. Might want to rethink the divisions in the senate and house, since the Green Party hasn't been founded yet. Mscoree (talk) 14:09, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Warning
All right, I've been lenient so far, but enough is enough - you aren't following the naming rules of this wiki. And you need to do so.

You can find the rules here.

Please follow them in the future.

Lordganon (talk) 19:44, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

...No, you most decidedly did not do that. Not only did I see you make it, but the history confirms that to be the case - and you did it with the "RMG" tag. You even renamed the one page back to the original problem after I fixed it.

Do not ever fib to an admin again.

Lordganon (talk) 03:19, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

If you wish to help me make a list of nations and their boundries i can help update the map G greg e (talk)

rebult map game
I would like to get in one the Rebuild map game, im kind of new to the whole thing so some help would be appreciated Feudalplague (talk) 05:16, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Doomsday
On Ultimate Map Games Wiki, you signed up for Doomsday Map Game, and it has started now Local (talk) 16:47, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

State College
Winds in that area go north-northeast - it got none from Wilkes-Barre in the first place. Would have only got small amounts from Harrisburg.

The map on that page is not entirely up to date. SC does in fact control those areas by now. Other maps do indicate this.

200-400kt bomb in W-B, fyi.

Must note, as well, that it is not my article.

Lordganon (talk) 13:07, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

No, and really, they won't. Lordganon (talk) 13:17, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

No plans, and no chance in Hades of it ever happening. Much of the former US has either joined another nation, is likely to do so, independent minded, disavows the entire concept, or is separately geographically. At this point, I doubt you could count those states in real favor of the idea on two hands - even one hand may be pushing it. And since the new US isn't going to be conquering anyone like the new USSR is, a full reunification is not going to happen. Lordganon (talk) 13:31, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, even the chunks of the USSR are more unified - there's a few federations that have sprung up there, unlike in the US.

For the most part, Canada is going to reunify eventually. Great support for it, as a matter of fact, in most areas. Helps a lot that the government actually stuck around.

Lordganon (talk) 13:57, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I just put your nation on the NotLAH template check the spelling for me G greg e (talk) 21:13, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
Are you still planning on playing as Kaliforno? CourageousLife (talk) 19:05, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Puerto Rico is under Netherlands control, is a colony. But if you want you can play as a vassal, and a i will help you. Quashi (talk) 15:54, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate you finally started playing, but you have missed a lot. Kaliforno is already a substantial nation, and has many of the things mentioned in your post. For this turn, I removed it, because I have been posting for Kaliforno in your absence.

On the subject of post content, as long as you keep expanding in the incriments I perscribe, I will be satisfied.

CourageousLife (talk) 20:28, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

If you're looking for things to post about, talk about crops (i.e. what kind of crops, how much, etc.), infastructure (building cities, roads, etc.), and/or manufacturing (what is being made there). CourageousLife (talk) 18:01, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Resolution 005
I've edited it to allow humanitarian aid. You can change your vote if you want. Doctor Evulz (talk) 02:03, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth
19:36, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) I preclaimed the USA.
 * 2) There are no galactic nations.

Algorithms
Just for the record, you're allowed to make algorithms yourself. I was confused by that as well. Doctor Evulz (talk) 18:44, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: Message from Edboy452
Hey this is Edboy452, I notice as the Republic of Susquehanna you always seem to intervene or declare war on any random nation that seems rogue,corrupt, etc. This is not what your nation is supposed to do in this map game. Your nation is basically a small chunk of Pennsylvania and is supposed to help itself, not try and be OTL America and attack everybody that breaks the Geneva Convention or is deemed bad from your political point of view. Also, I see that you're asking me to help you against France, I'm not going to do that as of now since I will be fighting two wars and I need to reset my 5 Turn Stability Drop Counter. I hope you understand. Furthermore, unless you learn from the past, you're not supposed to start wars, only intervene if necessary. Starting wars yourself (Primary Belligerent) will risk your stability from dropping once more. The only wars you should start are with regional states that are adjacent or within the close proximity of your nation. However, I hope you understand what this message is supposed to tell you.

Sincerely, Edboy452 (talk) 02:04, June 23, 2013 (UTC) or the guy who plays as the Russian Federation

I warned you that your stability is going to continue dropping unless you stop intervening in global affairs. You should pull out all of your troops or else you'll get in a second civil war. Edboy452 (talk) 02:52, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Susquehanna Steam Electric Station
You could well do an article on it. Just remember that DD would have rendered it unusable without a ton of work. EMP from the continental blasts, combined with small amounts from Wilkes-Barre, would have done a lot of damage in there. No meltdown, however. Lordganon (talk) 08:06, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Susquehanna Steam Electric Station (1983: Doomsday)

Lordganon (talk) 12:29, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Blue on Blue!!!!!!!! Stop fighting me!
Hi. I note you posted you liberated Corpus Christi and established beachheads. If you read Chan Santa Cruz turns you will realise that we have occupied the entire caribbean coast, as well as Austin and are besiging Houston. Feel free to ofload troops via the coast, but please check you intel regarding areas that have already been freed. And if you bomb my troops again we shall be most upset. What would be useful is a push from the North to meet us.

Thank you,

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:20, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Dinetah/Texas
They WILL invade me no matter what! Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 11:40, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

yes, and to hell with being there vassal. they want all of new mexico, and probably Arizona is next. I weish to create a new mexican defensive state to, well, defend from them and prosper

Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 11:51, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

join chat

RE: WW3
I can sense it coming, and when it does

NUKES

NUKES

NUKES

but yeah, i'll see if i can spare any forces to your defense if shit hits the fan  OreoToast555(Talk) 19:07, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

If i could dock there that'd be nice, we'd have to secure the Suez though. I'm already in a Cold War with Russia at this time... it all depends on how my other allies view their expansionism  OreoToast555(Talk) 19:28, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to take out Indonesia and annex it as a buffer zone and recruit some more bums from their population, then i might start getting my allies into this, against nationalist russia  OreoToast555(Talk) 19:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

I would take anything you are willing to sell. I am planning on invading Russia next turn (if that isn't obvious already, lol), so I need all the firepower I can get.

We are on the same side in the war, right?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 01:54, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Erie/RoS union
As long as it's plausible and diplomatic, go ahead. Mscoree (talk) 15:39, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

they invaded.
they invaded, and i nuked a few texas cities(as an act of self defence, cus they invaded) PLEASE HELP.Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 11:53, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

READ THE MOD EVENT

I did invade them. But it was to defend the nations of the NAL. You'd understand. Doctor Evulz (talk) 14:48, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: WW3
Hey can you stop offering people land to join the Axis, it's really annoying and I wont help you achieve it from them. Edboy452 (talk) 21:41, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

New Turn on States of America

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:54, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Trade
I'll accept. -Kogasa  2013 July 22, 23:22 (CET)

Hey, can you join chat???? You just annexed Carolina and parts of FLoirda, and the CRA wants to kill you. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:21, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

In the Ruins of the French Empire
I invite you to join my map game. In the Ruins of the French Empire (Map Game). Octivian Marius (talk) 01:22, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Korea (RDE)
Hey, added a different template with some info which you'll have to add in more details. Sorry, but I renamed the Korea that way we don't get confused with the "Roma Delenda Est" timeline. Thanks! EiplecOco (talk) 11:50, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Daes, I'm taking care of those terrorists. I have absolutely no problem with you assisting me, however. Just state you are assisting me. :/  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:17, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

But what? I thought there were no terrorists in South Africa. Nothing on the mod posts. Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:23, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

South Africa
Yes, eventually. Mscoree (talk) 16:23, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Rebuild (Map Game)
Hello there. I joined your map game as the Central Californian Republic. I may not not post today and this week because of my hectic schedule in school. (my time zone is GMT +08:00) IstocnoSarajevo (talk) 06:45, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

The remaining soviet troops who were just wiped out at panama requested asylum pretty much everything they have is destroyed anyways. Asylum is not implausible--&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 20:53, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Nuked UK
UK would be nuked in these places http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/features/sfs/appendices.htm#app5 Mafia (talk) 19:21, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth
Hello,

You signed on as Canada in the Battle for Earth Strikes Back! Map game. As you may be aware, the game never started due to multiple circumstances. In order to meet everyone's needs, the game was delayed until September. I am putting the finishing touches on the page and the last thing to do is create the map for Earth. To do so, I need to know who's active and who isn't. If you are active, please notify me by Wednesday, September 11 or your nation will be opened up for a new player. Thank you for your patience. CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 19:57, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Nation Template
To use the NationInfo template, you first put in (End of Template).

Of course there's more (if you look at the template itself there's more options) but that's what I usually use to put information for the nations. Hope this helps. -Kogasa  2013 September 12, 04:03 (CET)

Mod Events for Rebuild
Hey for rebuild i need you to look at previous mod events because alot of the ones you made were kind of implausible. i had to edit them a bit. The Peruvians for example were at war with Colombia already and hence wouldnt invade Ecuador while in the middle of a life threatening war. Also Israel regardless the big Arab coalition is plausible but it would be more than likely be led by Arabia and they would threaten war not actually do it. Please look at the other events before you make events again please. Also The SAF has been way more than beginning influence on colombia ive been doing it since just after the Venezuela conflict. --&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk)

hey could you boost me up to a middle power, judging on my army scores compared to the rest of the continent, i think i have some regional influence in the area.

Could I join Rebuild?
I'm sorry if this isn't on the right page, I'm new to the whole talk page thing.

But would I be able to join Rebuild? I'd love to the Central CA, but it's taken, so could I be Mexico?

Thanks!

CaptainRyRy (talk) 04:29, September 24, 2013 (UTC)CaptainRyRy

SSES
Nothing to worry about, lol. I know you're busy and still around the wiki, so no worries.

Yes, they'd have been able to shut down the facility. Not even a question of luck, truthfully.

Yes, it would probably be abandoned by the staff. Squatters later on would not be surprising, however. Water would only be a problem for a couple days, mind.

Wilkes-Barre and Scranton got hit by two separate blasts. No more than 300kt each.

The strike on Harrisburg would have left some fallout in the area.

The site does not lie in the territory of any Pennsylvanian state at this time. Reading and State College are both about the same distance away from it.

As for reopening the plant... Not impossible. This plant is one of the newest ones that would exist from before DD atl. Would take a lot of time and work - far more than the local states could manage on their own - but reopening it would not be entirely out of the question.

Lordganon (talk) 11:54, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Probably not impossible for something to exist there, though your population would be less than that and composed primarily of refugees from upriver. The locals would have fled the area around the plant, mostly, after DD. Even with the plant shut down, they would not want to hang around for the most part.

Heck, you could probably have it be former employees from the plant, and some people from the college, that start things up there after the locals mostly fled. Far as I can tell, it'd be far enough away that they would consider it safe enough.

Lordganon (talk) 12:32, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

World Rivalries Resumed
The Game has continued and perhaps Switzerland may ally with the Napolitans to conquer the shattered HRE, may you give them a chance to forge a new german empire from the beginning?, the game has restarted. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:39, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

CofS
The artillery in that park in 1983 would not have included that model - it was still in use at the time. Would be Civil War artillery, realistically, that was there in 1983. Still beyond the abilities of your state, mind.

Sorry to tell you this, but there has never been any such unit in Bloomburg. For that matter, there isn't even a National Guard company of infantry in that city, let alone something bigger. Closest you have is a small National Guard infantry company in Berwick. May have been some kind of infantry unit in Milton in 1983 as well, but nothing big there, either. Basically, that means Humvees, at best - and none of these would be in any location in your state, as there is no NG armories.

What I meant with the choppers is that they are harder to maintain - they'd be long inoperable by now, tearing apart two of them or otherwise.

Some things are better, but you really have to remember that this would in no way be a modern state. Health care, for instance, is going to stink.

Lordganon (talk) 10:37, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm well aware of what the picture actually is of. However, what I'm saying is that there was not one of those there, and has never been. And, once again: They could not have used one anyways. Scale back your mental image of the place, quite a bit. Lordganon (talk) 10:45, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Miracle at marne has started &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 19:53, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

EMP would have taken out virtually all of them, Dae. Sorting through the parts, they may eventually manage one or two of them built from all of the functional parts, but that'd be it, and only from the smaller planes. The Helicopters wouldn't have that privilege. Lordganon (talk) 08:26, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Invitation
You are invited to a game on the wiki, Alternate Nations 2, where you make nations turn-by-turn, until you fill up the map. Then we will pick a new map. It is a great casual thing/time waster to do on the wiki. Thanks, Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes

Sorry i erased your thing for USA on http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Nordic_Survival_(Map_Game), you can sign up as them again my apologies. DS|The Rainbow Machete 20:55, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Nordic Survival has officialy begun. Post Now. DS|The Rainbow Machete 17:18, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Susquehanna
History needs finishing.

That's not actually where I meant the armored car numbers - I was referring to in the history when contact is made. The number you reduced was actually fine, lol.

I meant take out the technical school and one of the colleges/universities.

Lordganon (talk) 12:37, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Alternative High Schools are still high schools - not technical schools. That would be taught at the high schools.

Technical schools, imo, are for after high school. They'd be teaching it at your university.

Don't see why they would be teaching nuclear engineering - would be vastly out of date, and near-useless. They'd have to import the people to work on the plant.

One hospital.

Too much infrastructure repairs. The power plants would probably still be in-operational, as well. Time plus internal EMP damage, you know?

Lordganon (talk) 09:11, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Take out a third.

Good job with the trucks. An under-utilized concept in DD.

Doubtful that the pre-DD governing bodies still are used. Really, this state is so small that there won't be any subdivisions to it.

Lordganon (talk) 15:50, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

11,000-12,000.

Even for emergency and power services it would not be needed. Just too small for any of that to be worth having.

Lordganon (talk) 15:34, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Remember, small state, and have to get new equipment from outside for such things. You'd have a government station, and that'd be about it.

Even if the counties are only used in that context, it still doesn't make any sense. The population is by far small enough that only at-large votes are really logical.

Such a distinction is unnecessary, and really not needed. The ANZC organization is called the "APA," not the USA.

Better with regards to the paper numbers, but they would not be called "distributors." You're also not going to see a daily paper. Weekly, or Bi-weekly.

...Why would they state a piece of that power plant for that purpose? That doesn't make any sense. Maybe have them find a downed and ruined warplane, and use that in some form. In theory, it would be possible.

Money from steel... Not so much. The amount available for export would be small, and needed for other things (basic supplies and parts, as well as weapons)

Lordganon (talk) 15:27, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Pittsburgh
No, its fine. Pitts part of your nation and I feel it would be unfair if I would swing in and snatch it.

I am that guy

Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.

I am that guy

HRE ASB
Esteemed contributor to the Yellowstone TL, I object to the HRE on a number of counts of ASBness.

Please, consider my arguments made here. The entire idea of a united Russia in this TL at the time when it happens is ASB, and I hope you join me in striking it down as obsolete by signing the petition.

Thank You,                 Hasta la vista,   baby.  08:11, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

The croaked world (map game)
Dear Daeseunglim,

I know that Vsavani has so many less edits and that there are a hundred more arguments that he shouldn't be France and you should.

However, taking out a players name is disobeying the game rules and I wish that you would not do that again.

I do not want ot give you a warning

by:

Awesome NEWS!!!!~ The croaked world!
I talked to Vsavani and he agrees to let you become Spain!!!!!!! He said he will be the " Holy Roman Empire".

AVA

 * Local plays as Yugoslavia and the cezch republic
 * Ask Portugal aka rex
 * How would we divied germany when we win?
 * I want austria, berlin, denmark and the colonies of germany in africa
 * You can have the Netherlands, Belgium, and lex
 * The rest can go to france on the west side and on the east side go to russia -  ShadowKnights1234

Mankind Reborn
I know you want to play as Pennsylvania but we I feel that limiting to only Europe makings gameplay a lot easier since it means we don't have to have as many players or create as many NPC's. Picture it as if you are in Europe and not in contact with the rest of the world. No one has any idea what is out there. Mscoree (talk) 15:46, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

RTW
welcome aboard you have a good reputation and you more then qualify Nkbeeching (talk) 16:41, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

ps just pick your nation.

Pennsylvania
Not only can you not know how many planes were actually there at the time, you vastly understate the EMP damage. Virtually every single one of those planes would have been damaged. Bet on the numbers you quote being overstated, too.

Between spare parts and tearing apart the damaged planes, you would be lucky to scrape together even a single plane. More than that isn't going to happen.

Good start for a page.

You can edit those pages to mention contact, though I would avoid a date.

You are indeed close to graduation. Just need to moderate some things, like the steel mill and the planes.

National Guard page is fine. Can probably graduate with the main page.

No, they do not all border each other.

Would be absolutely no point to such an article.

Lordganon (talk) 13:51, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Not even a question of the navigation systems - though those would have been fried, true - but the wiring and electronics overall. Virtually every one of those planes would have suffered damage to those areas, and that is the parts you need to scavenge for. Difficult, at best, to find, and not something normally held by a maintenance area. We're talking having to redo basically all the wires in these planes. Add age and the suppliers for these parts going up in smoke... and you're lucky to have one.

Lordganon (talk) 12:20, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

PM3: Call to War
Seeming as the Austrians have finally decided to find a way to attack, it is time to crush them.

I need you and all your vassals to join the war full on so we can crush Austria.

As soon as we win the war I can finally get you that land for the port area you want, it'll be part of the Austrian coastline so that I can help you defend it more and then you'll have sea capabilities.

Also don't be threatened or bribed by Austria, they told three different nations (probably more) that they'd get all of Italy by working with them so they can't and won't fulfil any of their promises. As for threats, once we've dealt with them now they won't be a threat, we'll win and we already are winning.

Thanks for all help.

Talk on my page or on chat for more info. Kunarian TALK 10:06, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

In Road to War, I am Chile. I would like to have a trade agreement with Argentina so if you would get on that would help me alot. ThanksHungryLayne (talk) 04:07, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

CofS
What they made 40 years previously is more or less irrelevant.

They would have used modified versions of their normal assembly process to make the tanks in the 1940s - most of the same machines, even. And they're not going to be able to do that after DD. Or want to, for that matter. Even the ones left behind that were brought in the the purpose would be more or less inoperable by DD, let alone decades later.

Tiny state, remember? No need or desire for tanks. And if they wanted something more in that direction, easier and cheaper to just get from elsewhere. London has a small production line of APC's up and running - buy a couple of those if you insist.

Steel from your mills is limited. And you need a lot more than that to make guns. Steel is a minor ingredient, in a lot of ways.

It is beyond their abilities to make such guns.

People who make custom weapons are not really relevant to making designs like you discuss making. There is a world of difference between making rifles, shotguns, pistols, or the like and making military weapons. Even making those weapons is probably a bit much - little power, items fried, etc. - ammo is definitely doable, for shotguns and rifles, however.

Lordganon (talk) 11:31, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Lex versus WB/S
For starters, you are using the current populations, not the ones from 1983. In the 1980s, Lexington was two thirds of the current population, and the other two going in the opposite direction. WB/S is also the center of an urban area much larger than you think.

WB/S is also an industrial area - and was a much bigger one in 1983. Lexington is not.

It's not an error - simple calculation of value. Lexington is further down the list than WB or Scranton.

Lordganon (talk) 08:53, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

TPE
Realistically, they aren't going to include anything "assumed" on there. That would make little to no sense. Only places they had reports of. Lordganon (talk) 13:30, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

Planes
Can't find any reference to their being any T-33s in this area of PA. A problem, that.

No more than a couple of the P-38s would make their way to Pennsylvania.

Would be Superior, not the ROS Air Force.

Weapons have been somewhat upgraded from the originals. Exact ones to be determined.

Reason for the P-38 being the choice is that there are several in that region that are on display. The rough specifications also allow for easier upgrading than most planes, insomuch as I can tell.

The basic design also is something, in theory, that can be used as a partial template for a more advanced design.

The new design, fyi, is based on a combination of the P-38, T-33, and A-10. Current name in my notes is the "SF-2 Starlight" (The Superior production of the P-38 is being called the SF-1 Lightning)

Lordganon (talk) 09:19, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

After extensive hunting around, I have determined that there are no warplanes of any kind, let alone the T-33, in this area of Pennsylvania. Same goes with tanks, artillery, and the like.

So, that leaves you with a problem - no planes or even other machines of war to trade.

Nearest ones I can find any evidence of are in Reading's territory.

Thought about it some, and I figure that you can still get the planes, but in exchange for old machinery from factories that is useless to your state for one reason or another. Far more within the abilities of Superior to fix/rebuild such things, or use them to be a design base for new templates.

Lordganon (talk) 12:04, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Dae, you don't even have trainers like that in the area. The only planes around there would have been the small ones you already had.

On another note, identified the machinery to send - according to my research, there would be some old machines still around for making train cars. Won't be of much use to you, and Superior could use them, so...

Add a line to the deal about Superior agreeing to supply train cars as desired if you develop a need for them.

Canadian government has never owned any of the Beavers. Nor are they going to start - so that deal there really doesn't work.

Lordganon (talk) 12:38, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

The Skytrains work. Though, as noted, the final weapons for the Superior planes have not been decided - remove that part for now. Lordganon (talk) 09:34, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Elections
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M113s
No detachment there, I am afraid - what I suspect you meant is that one of the elements of that regiment is made of guardsmen from there. Definitely no unit based there, however.

Moreover, it is the 103rd Armored Regiment, not infantry.

One of its battalions has a unit HQ to the west of there, in Lewisburg. However, the unit depots are in Scranton, at regimental HQ.

Though you are correct about what that regiment was equipped with.

Doesn't help, though. The M113s were still all destroyed in Scranton.

Lordganon (talk) 03:03, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Equatorial African Republic (1983: Doomsday)
Agreed over 1/12 of the province=1/12 of the populus. the Congo's 3 jets only shot up a few places, folk and vehicles. The Congo town that is later captured is an even wors sh*t hole after Doomsday.Whipsnade (talk) 15:24, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

I just found-
 * 1) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89quateur_(district)
 * 2) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbandaka
 * 3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemena

I have done all the wars now so I would be most grateful if you could start a military page or section for it covering there militia (army and presidential guard), their exploits and history.Whipsnade (talk) 15:24, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Indiantown Gap
Yeah, sure. Knock yourself out. ;-) Godfrey Raphael (talk) 08:57, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

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Hey, I've noticed you've been adding images to your 83DD nation infoboxes and they turned out all wonky with the "" messing with the image and box. To fix this, you add an image in the "Photos" tab of the "On the wiki" thumbnail instead of adding an image while editing. You then go into source mode and type out the image name without the "File:" and brackets.

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CoS Elections
I need more info on where to find them.

Bil

EoGuy (talk) 20:57, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Graduation
Hey, I see you've edited your DD pages a ton recently. I was wondering if you were looking into graduation, as I'd love to see them as official canon, they're definately that good IMO. —Bfoxius (talk)

I can't graduate them myself, you'd need to state your intentions to graduate the page and wait two weeks. If no one objects, congrats, you can graduate your pages. —Bfoxius (talk)

PM3: Ghana
In PM3 the nation of Ghana no longer exists. If you look on the map you'll see it has been conquered by Britannia. Mscoree (talk) 13:51, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

1983: Doomsday Stuff
Your Susquehanna pages in 1983: Doomsday were recently graduated due to no objections being raised in the past two weeks. I know that they are kind of your pet project, but I've recently started to redo Kansas and Oklahoma in the timeline, starting with the nation of Verdigris which I recently made. I was wondering if you could help out on those pages if you want to. It's fine if you don't but it would be nice to discuss my plans for the region with someone and hopefully get some work done. —Bfoxius (talk)

...And reversed, as no one asked. Lordganon (talk) 12:18, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

My bad on the graduations, it was a stupid manuver. Anywho, if you are interested, try to speak with me on chat between 6:30 and 8:30 EST. If you can't, I'll tell you my plans here. —Bfoxius (talk)

I was planning Verdigris would be much like other small American survivor nations, small and concentrated on survival and only recently having began to reach out. Some planes and other relics of the old times would be present, yet they would be in storage and/or decaying. I am mostly planning on using this page to show how American society and culture would change in the face of a monumental catastrophe. You can do what you want with it for the most part and if we have objections to each other's work, we can use the talk page. Also, try to read up on a bit of the area's resources/geography/towns, it helps loads! —Bfoxius (talk)

Susquehanna
Hi, Daeseeunglim. I want to compliment you on your work with Susquehanna and releated pages. I have been been out of the loop for a long time, but I am still an admin to this wiki. Lordganon and I are sometimes at odds, but overall I agree with the work he is doing at holding this wiki together. I only wish I had half his commitment to the wiki.

If you ever want a second opinion on any of your projects, feel free to contact me via my talk page. I don't have the energy to fight LG, but at least you can get a different view of things. SouthWriter (talk) 01:46, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

In general, don't get too frustrated by LG. It is late right now, as I read this, but like I said above, it seems to be some really good work. As LG says, this is a small state, and by itself it probably would not last this long. Build on the relationship with the other Pennsylvanian states. Perhaps work out a back history with the caretakers and/or creators of the other states, looking for places you can work out a viable point of contact as early as possible.

You have to respect canon, but perhaps if you can find inconsistencies you can suggest improvements to what has been written. Some changes are easy to make when working around obsure states. Better known states have mention of them in a whole lot of places, so changes in them would be more difficult. I'll get back to you later on any specific suggestions. SouthWriter (talk) 03:55, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Fair, Targets
Those vendors and guests would have been over the course of the fair. And, the fair started the Monday before DD, and the last day was the 24th. According to research, it only got extended past six days after DD.

Basically, that means that the vast majority of the out of towners would be gone by the time of the blasts, which occurred in the early evening on the 25th.

Take that site's lists with a grain of salt. There are a lot of missing targets (common sense ones) and nonsense ones listed there. Have a look around, you'll spot them.

As for some logic for it, to take out the industry in that valley you either need a massive nuke right between the two cities (would be one of the largest dropped anywhere then) or two, one on each of the cities. Not hard to see which is more likely, eh?

Lordganon (talk) 11:25, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hey
Yeah, do know about that. Have a look at the content - utter nonsense. Not worth the time to complain to wikia.

Is against wikia rules, fyi.

Lordganon (talk) 12:19, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

That's only part of it - the pages on that thing contradict each other in a BIG way. Lordganon (talk) 10:05, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hence why it doesn't bother me, lol. Bloody thing contradicts itself on same pages, even. Lordganon (talk) 12:30, December 21, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Daes,

If you have I chance I would appreciate it if I could talk to you about something PM3 related.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 22:44, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

CoS
Dae, you still have the nation and especially the military have too much. Weapons they would not have, etc. Tone it down - told you a lot of how before. Lordganon (talk) 10:46, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Not going to have any M1918s.

Nor, realistically, any M67s - grenades would have been used, and new ones made. Jury-rigged ones, really. Same goes for all kinds of grenades.

Drop the number of machine guns. Remember, you have only the ones from the military units - these are not something that you would have civilians have. Presidential Guard would lack them.

Homemade mortars, like the grenades, not impossible.

Uniforms would be obtainable, though would not be bright-colored.

Any sort of commando unit is probably too much. Certainly, there would be no concept of base-jumping or parachute training and/or units.

M40s are doubtful - they would just use modified hunting rifles for the sniping. There is a company in Superior, fyi, that they could get some upgraded optics for these from.

They don't have the ability to make assault rifles. Hunting rifles, maybe. But not assault ones from scratch.

No ability to do anything to the uranium, and they won't have any chemical weapons.

Remember with the planes that anything past light attack craft and scouts is going to be too far. Same with vehicles and artillery.

Remove the nuke strengths. Last thing we want is for you to shoehorn yourself into something.

Would make no silk.

Tone down the price of the imports and exports.

Drop the number of healthcare workers, and add them to agriculture. Not a modern state, remember.

Far too much maple syrup. It is also done in litres or gallons, not tons.

Just because moonshine is outlawed does not mean it would be made anyway. At a minimum, it would be made for hospitals. And, imo, hard liquor is far easier to make than you think. At a minimum, it would be made behind the scenes. Bet on one of the two companies you already have established making some.

Motorboat motors should have largely been ok with the EMP, though time and a lack of parts would have had much the same effect.

Would not be able to afford those transformers and substations. Poor state, remember - and you already have them getting military equipment. Maybe have them planning on buying a couple of new turbines in the near future. Should not need more. Others will definitely help with the reactor, mind.

One carrier, and no regular flights except to State College and North Penn. Not a big place, not worth it for those powers to have regular flights.

Reading would not donate that. They would need it.

Canada would not be selling that, nor could the CoS afford it.

Probably have fixed X-rays machines by now.

No deaths from radiation poisoning past a couple years after DD. Problem would be cancers from it, now.

Euthanasia, not an issue.

Flu deaths would be far less than that. Couple a year, mostly elderly.

Sheriff's department section is not done.

State Police too large. Would only be like 2-5 people.

Cars would be more recent than horseback. Doubt they have any cars, mind.

No gangs.

Emergency services would be the priority for repair works with regards to vehicles.

Theme park would not be open. All it would have taken for most everything there to be inoperable would have been a few years. Waste of resources besides.

Really not going to have tourists. Definitely none from Canada.

Vibrant night life is not going to be the case. Electricity shortage, remember?

No diplomats in Canada, Saquenay, Superior, Toledo, or Virginia. Just an embassy in Reading. And, being realistic, these will probably all be either just an ambassador, or a local paid to represent their interests.

Very doubtful that the NAU would even be on the table. Too far. Have them join the UC if anything.

Change the Protestant and Catholic percentages around.

Would not be a rabbi, realistically, until recently. One would have to be imported.

You mention North Penn twice with regards to aid.

Lordganon (talk) 15:11, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

...Never said a word about the M14s. You must be mistaking it for another type.

That being said, you probably should drop the numbers of them, too. Might have enough for the regulars, with some spares, but no one else is going to have them.

For the Guard - buying a small quantity of modern arms from Canada (sub-machine guns, maybe) to outfit them not the worst idea.

Lordganon (talk) 17:46, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

You'd have Machine Gunners, not Automatic Riflemen. Two-man teams, with whatever heavy guns you have.

w/e submachine gun Canada has, for the Presidential guard.

Lordganon (talk) 20:59, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

An AR is not needed, and takes ammo away from the rest. For them to play that role, you'd need to have them carry more ammo than that. Better to just give it to the machine gunners - more efficient.

You also mistake "Protestant" and "Methodist." Change where you have the latter to say the former.

Lordganon (talk) 09:58, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Dae, don't use "SAW" as a name for a kind of item - while it does stand for "Squad Automatic weapon," it is also the common name for the M249 light machine gun, which is what it is normally associated with.

As noted, Dae, you don't have the privilege of ammo to do that. Extra bodies are going to be more needed by your troops, not firepower.

Brens, no. No one making them, and not in use for too long. Nor is there any US forces that used them.

Dae, your grenades aren't even all going to be the same - trying to launch them would be a bad idea.

Lordganon (talk) 14:39, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

...Having an AR be like that would be pointless. Defeats the purpose, really. Better to just have two riflemen. The members of the squad all have the same weapons, remember - they all can do such a thing. Lordganon (talk) 12:18, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Typically, but not always. A vote is probably a good idea. As to my thoughts... Well, the only Penn state without a governor right now is Gettysburg, and it makes different claims than the rest once did. I figure, keep it governor.

Vice-President.

Lordganon (talk) 12:03, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Still too close, realistically. Lordganon (talk) 12:21, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Problem there is that the only way he would be by himself would be if he was at work - and in such a case, he is unquestionably dead. Worked in Scranton. Really cannot see him making it to safety, in any event. Lordganon (talk) 16:25, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

...Which would be irrelevant, given the time of day.

What you're missing is that he had a law office in Scranton even at that time. Nanticoke's not big enough to have enough business to employ them all the time, after all.

Lordganon (talk) 11:40, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Osea
hey Daes, I don't think attacking Osea is the best Idea atm, wait till the dust settles a little bit before you do anything. This is Edge, He is a cool guy when he isn't too lazy to sign his real sig. Hit him up. 19:00, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

if you could get on chat that'd be great.

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AvA question
This is jumping the gun a little bit, but do you think that Alfredo di Stefano could move to one of my Swiss clubs sometime in the early 1950s? • 17:02, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

AVAR

 * Venezuela Dip' to Argentina: We will sell our oil to the Spain for only 90% of the going market prices for 25 years if we are sold 25 Chiesanuova Bolt Action Rifles and 10 Lehnar Submachine Gun, along with the licence to make 25 more of each if needed.

Colombia
Were probably going to have to handle Colombia relatively soon since Pita seems to be looking to build and empire. I just issued the Vargas doctrine which is meant to keep peace on the continent, Throw your support behind it if youd like too but be prepared to help in a bit in case pita goes crazy.

No Great Wall
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