Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-110.20.227.171-20141127105940/@comment-4206034-20141129184002

GunsnadGlory wrote: No, Impo. The Tanks that the Germans COULD mass produce were outclassed by the Sovs. But the Tigers and the Panthers were AMAZING tanks. They outclassed even the T-34 monsters that the Soviets threw forward. But the Germans had too few of them.

Plus, the German training was WAYYYYY better.

As a wise man once said, it's not the size that counts- it's whether you know how to use it. Guns, you have absolutely no idea of the tanks the Russians did have. Ever heard of the IS-2 or IS-3? The 88mm Tiger II gun was completely outclassed by the IS-2's 122mm. The Soviets had a effective heavy tank first, and in numbers which would have left the Tigers and Panthers lying on the field as burning wreckage. Their T-34/85s were enough, however, so that they didn't really need to deviate much to produce better tanks.

Admittedly, the Tigers had better armour, but IS guns could penetrate their armour. The Panther was good, but not mass produced or as good as it needed to be to stem the tide.