Talk:1983: Doomsday/Tech 1

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When I saw the page had hit 6 figures, I knew it was time. As usual, I tried to leave the active discussions on the page, but may have screwed up. If you want to "rescue" a thread, they're all on Page 8. Benkarnell 23:11, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Republic of -
I've noticed a lot of pages start with "Republic of - ". I think that we should try to make our pages just the name of the nation and dispense with the Republic of prefix. For example, the page about the would go to a page titled, and the  would go to a page titled. Just a thought. --DarthEinstein 22:08, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree I think it is uncessary to name articles by the official title a country calls itself. The short version is I think more convenient for everybody.  Mitro 16:18, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

English language titles
Wouldn't it be better if we made a policy to keep the titles of articles in English unless there is a good reason to do otherwise? I mean, the inconsistent usage of Spanish, French and German language names just gives the list of nations a horribly messy appearance. Especially with multilingual nations the names can even give wrong a impression (e.g. why does a Basque nation have a French language name?). Using English for page titles can eliminate this problem. Last, but certainly not least, in especially the New Germany series I have seen a various names which are either grammatically incorrect or have a very different nuance (e.g. neues Deutschland and Neudeutschland are very different concepts). Especially with the more obscure languages such errors could give dramatic results. I'd say that having a policy to use English language names would make things more consistent and less prone to errors. Now I'm not saying that non-English language names should be banned or anything, but I'd say there should at least be a functional proper reason for their usage (e.g. OTL Côte d'Ivoire). --Karsten&#160;vK (talk) 15:51, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

N.B. Please note that all criticism in this comment was directed against the naming of articles, not in any way against their content.


 * I don't know - more Rules can be a good way to make things less fun. The creators of the pages (presumably) made their language decisions for a reason.  The Basque Country, for example, was first created as part of Louisianan's series on France.  (He speaks fluent French, FWIW.)  If inconsistency a problem, maybe the World Country Profiles page can be made to show only English names.  It already shows country names that often differ from page titles: nations whose titles begin with "Republic of" or something similar are usually displayed differently, in order to maintain alphabetical order. There's no reason why they couldn't also be listed using English names .  Benkarnell 22:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for any inconvienience that my aricle's tite created. While I had lessons in German in high school, I only really know the basics. I got the name by running New Germany into the Babelfish online translation service on Altavista. I am nowhere near as proficient in speaking or writing German as Louis is in French or Karsten must be in German. --Yankovic270 22:55, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * short titles, easy to remember and write if they are not in english, we can say "Pais de Oro (1983: Doomday)", but i know only yo mismo can say "parte noroeste de africa ocupada por sobrevivientes españoles (1983: Doomday)" (nortwest part of africa occuped bt spaniars survivors), i will not use a title like that. Please dont be evil with who not understood that nice languaje you have (russian/spanish/franch/chinese/japanese)--Fero 01:23, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

How about this for a compromise: authors can put the title of any nation article they create either in English or the language of the said nation. But to make it easier for us English-only speakers, if the author uses the local language either the author or someone else creates a redirect page in English. Mitro 19:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mitro - that's exactly what I would stipulate. I guess I'm going to have to make some changes of my own, but this is the English version of the Althistory Wiki - I would expect that those who contribute to it should have a page name redirect at least in the English name.  Were this any other language, I would expect a similar statute. preceding unsigned comment by User:Louisiannan
 * @Yankovic: I'm not sure to which extend my German can withstand the comparison with Louis's French, but it's good enough to see some grammatical errors. I'll post an explanation on why the two forms are different on your talk page.
 * @Fero: It is not titles like Pais de Oro I was speaking about, a direct comparison with the already mentioned Côte d'Ivoire may be drawn fot that one. I even inserted a country myself with an Afrikaans language name that would be outright silly to literally translate (Volkstaat). Keep in mind though that even Côte d'Ivoire is formally referred to in English as the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire not as République de Côte d'Ivoire, which is mainly what I am aiming at.
 * I must admit having written this comment after yet another day with a series of tiresome lectures taught by native speakers of Dutch and English, which have apparently collectively decided to lecture in the "wrong" language. Sole purpose of which seems to be causing huge headaches and annoyances. Please forgive me for having therefore grown a slight aversion to linguistic xenomania over time. I won't try to push this proposed policy on anyone (I've been a proponent of potentially ignorable guidelines rather than real rules anyway) and just issued this as a probe to bring the issue forward. --Karsten&#160;vK (talk) 12:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Link problems
Why is it every time I try to link to the it is always red linked? Mitro 03:18, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Test: Multi-National Peacekeeping Force (1983: Doomsday) See what I mean? Does anyone know why this is happening? Mitro 20:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

That is very strange. I directly copied the title of the article and linked it. Sorry I can't be of more help... (It doesn't work! Multi-National Peacekeeping Force (1983: Doomsday)) --DarthEinstein 22:42, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Multi-National_Peacekeeping_Force_(1983: Doomsday)

Needs underscores between everything it seems.--Oerwinde 23:10, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok so I copied exactly what you wrote and previewed it on the article page, but it still was red linked. Mitro 01:08, November 9, 2009 (UTC)