Negotiation Page (Explorers 1452 Map Game)

This is the negotiation page for Explorers 1452 (Map Game). Ceasefires, alliances, and trade deals can be bargained here. Remember, first post your proposal on the map game, then post it here second in case of haggling.

If a nation wants an alliance with you, your nation can bargain (example-Portugal wants an alliance with Spain, but Spain will only join if Portugal gives up its land claims in South America.) This is what the page is for.

You must write your proposal under your target nation's space provided below. Example:


 * Empire of Trebizond: We would like to propose an alliance to the Papal States.


 * Papal States: We will only accept an alliance if you cede all African territories to us and grant our merchants trade rights on the Black Sea.


 * Empire of Trebizond: We are afraid we cannot accept the terms. How about if we give you trade rights on the Caspian Sea instead?

If a nation outright rejects your offer and announces they have no further wish to negotiate with you, then please respect your fellow player and do not continue to press the matter.

England

 * France: Although France and England have a troubled past, we request help from England in our war with Florence, they have already overextended their forces and if we are victorious, then you shall be given their American possessions.
 * Florence: We also ask you to help us in our war with France. We will give you northern France and the Netherlands if you agree to it, plus trading rights and no tariffs on all of our territory. We will also give you 6,000 gold florins.
 * France: If you assist us then we shall allow British concessions in the French cities of Marseilles, Cherbourg, and Amsterdam. We shall also allow trading rights and no tariffsm and pay you 10,000 livres.
 * Florence: Raise our offer to 18,000 florins! And you will also recieve our Californian colonies, and a concession over the Italian cities of Ajaccio (Corsica), Lucca (Tuscany) and Prato (Tuscany).
 * France: We raise our offer to 30,000 livres, and offer giving you our colony of Hispaniola, as well a we shall give you an English section in any French city you please, even Paris!
 * Florence: We will raise our offer to 32,000 florins, and we will give you five galleons, filled of as much gold as they can, brought from America. We will also give you a concession of Malacca, our African colonies, and an English section in any Italian city you want! If we are victorious, we will give you not only all of North France and the Netherlands, but Bugrundy and Western France too! We will pay tribute of 50 gold florins a day for two years if you agree!

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
''' We are a peaceful nation, we only have our best intentions for the people. We are open to any disscusion of any matter, this includes trade agreements, war talks, alliance offer and any of the sort. '''


 * Muscovy: We request an alliance with Poland-Lithuania.
 * Poland-Lithuania: Friends, we accept your offer and ask if we could create a trade agreement for the better welfare for our people.
 * Muscovy: We agree.
 * Florence: We request help from you in our war against France. We will give you 1,500 golden florins if you accept.
 * Muscovy: We must not get caught up in the wars of the west, we must first focus on developing our own prosperity before extending our influence that far.

Castile

 * Ireland: Request Trade Rights.
 * Castille: accepts
 * Portugal: Should we come into an alliance?
 * Castille: We accept willingly!

Kalmar Union

 * France: We request help in our fight from the Kalmar Union, not only in the fight against Florence, but in the rising possibility that England may also soon become involved.
 * Portugal: I believe an alliance is needed.

Papal States

 * Ireland: Is there any way we can help in a war or setting up colonies or funding anything?


 * Papal States: Blessings be upon you, faithful Irishmen. The pope currently has all the gold he needs, but we are launching a Crusade against the Mamluk Egyptians in Libya. If you will collect and send troops to aid us in this war and the Crusade to liberate Libya succeeds, the pope may reward you with territory in North Africa and money for your new government.
 * Ireland: We are most grateful. The IRA will be happy to be working alongside the Knight's Templar!
 * France: We request an anti-Florentine pact with the mighty Papal States, they are our common enemy and may soon bring us to war, but none can do so alone.
 * Papal States: The pope is concerned with the growth of Florentine power, but not quite ready for open warfare just yet. Should our Florentine brothers attempt any significant military aggression against your people or another Christian nation, we will ally ourselves with you. A warning, however: privately, we do not believe Florence can be trusted. Our advice: Do not enter into an alliance with them.


 * Poland-Lithuania: Dear friends, we come to support thee against the Muslim devils. They pose a threat to Europe and we ask for an trade agreement so that we may support your ecomony. We are sending weapons, food, and medical equipment to you, they should arrive soon and I hope that by then your nation will not have failed at its great crusade..
 * Papal States: May the Saints bless you and keep you, faithful Christians! The pope has agreed to your trade agreement. We have suffered much in our war against the Mamluks, and we need all the assistance you can offer.
 * Ireland: We've captured Libya's capital. We will build a church and install a priest/bishop if we can get some reinforcements to keep the Libyans under control.


 * Papal States: The Knights of the Vatican and the Order of St. John are at your disposal for holding the Libyan capital. They will reinforce your armies there. Once all of Libya has been captured from the Egyptians, the pope will be willing to discuss your rewards for participating in the Crusade.
 * Florence: We ask you not to participate on the war between France and us.
 * Papal States: Dear Florentine brothers, the pope has observed that France has been goading your nation into war intentionally, but the church has also taken into consideration that it was a war originally provoked by your colonists, and should have been prevented. Currently, the pope is busy with the Crusade against the Muslims, but be warned: He does not favor that you have an army on his border as if to stab his earthy state in the back.
 * Florence: As long as you don't assure us of the Pope's neutrality on the war, your Earthly terrain will be under Florentine blockade.
 * Papal States: Florentine brothers, the pope is losing patience with you. Remove your ships from our ports, as our people are suffering. The decision of Papal neutrality is one for the pope, Christ's vicar on Earth, to make with the council of cardinals. Once we have achieved a result for our Crusade against Egypt, we will decide. Until then, respect our neutrality.
 * Ireland: Libya has fallen and the blockade is gone. Thank our Lord in Heaven for guerilla tactics!

Ireland

 * England granted us independence. I don't see a legitamite reason to attack them unless they declare war on us. Thanks for the independence!
 * Florence: We ask for an alliance with you against France in our war.
 * Ireland: Alliance denied.
 * Florence: Why does your nation reject our offer?
 * Ireland: We are friends with the Papal States and France. You are blockading them. We demand that you stop this war. Lorenzo de' Medici has already died because of this war. Don't cause anymore deaths.
 * Papal States: Thank heaven for coming to our aid. Our tiny fleet could not have contested the Florentines. Now, for your part in the Crusade against the Mamluks, your grateful pope rewards you with the entire rich Libyan coastline east of Aragonese territory in North Africa. This also includes any cities within the territory. May the Higher Power bless you and keep you safe!
 * Ireland: Ireland thanks His Holiness the Pope!

France

 * Ireland: Request Trade Rights.
 * France: Request granted, both countries distain Britain and would make excellent allies.
 * Ireland: Many thanks
 * Republic of Florence: We request an alliance with your mighty nation. Should we give you our Sri Lankan colony if you agree to terms?
 * France: I am sorry to say this, but I must rightfully decline your offer of an alliance at the request of another, more trustworthy at this time, party, whom we take relations with as precedent over Florence.
 * Poland-Lithuania: We see that you are in deep conflict with Florence, therefore we ask for a trade agreement, this act will both help you in your war against Florence but also help keep your ecomony stable.
 * Florence: We demand compensation from your act of war. The incident in Sri Lanka was out of orders and we consider you the aggressor.
 * France: Honestly I see this as simply another historical event with two sides to the story, after all it was your carracks that attacked our frigate in port, but that's simply our side of the story.
 * English reply to offers: We are happy to say that we will assist you in this war, if we do receive your Caribbean colonies and the Florencian holdings in the new world.

Muscovy

 * Empire of Trebizond: We now share a border, friends of the Greeks! As fellow Orthodox Christians and trade partners, our gracious emperor has agreed that perhaps we should think our relationship to the next step. Would your ruler be willing to consider a defensive alliance with Trebizond, in the best interests of Eastern Christendom?
 * Muscovy: We accept your offer, willingly and graciously!

Aragon
*Florence: Will your glorious nation join us in the war against France and their allies.

Republic of Florence

 * England: Thank you for your most generous of offers, but sadly we cannot agree. We have decided to side with France in this conflict. 


 * Poland-Lithunia: The position we are in does not give us a choice to join the war, however, we will send supplys to you if a trade agreement is made for the best interest's of the people.


 * Papal States: We are giving you your last chance to repent, Florentine heathen. The pope is on the verge of excommunicating you. Your friends the Turks are nowhere in sight, and all faithful nations of Christendom have sided against you. Your leader is dead, and we are about to proclaim a new Crusade with the goal of conquering Florence itself. Nay, exterminating it. As it is clear you desire more war than peace, so shall it be. You now not only war with the States of the Church, but with Christ's kingdom on Earth.

Ireland: It would be wise for you to end this war now!

Ottoman Empire

 * Florence: We offer an alliance with your mighty nation. If you agree, we will give you 5,000,000 gold Florins and all of France's Asian territories.
 * Ottomans: We accept your alliance offer.

Mamluk Sultanate

 * Florence: We offer an alliance with your mighty nation. If you agree to it, we will give you 7,000,000 gold Florins.

Republic of Venice

 * France: We request an alliance with the mighty Republic of Venice against Florence, their colonists threaten our Sri Lankan colony and unless we unite against them, we all shall surely fall.