Imperial Court of Muslims (Principia Moderni II Map Game)

Ground Rules are set in the constitution. You amy simulate the vote of a nation next to you, not specifically previous vassals. Otherwise, the Caliph will act like a moderator.

DME's Creation & Contsitutional Ratification.
Premise: Arguments For: Argument Against: Votes:
 * We all know.
 * Unification of Muslim States
 * All vassals will be lost, on the concept that all Muslims are equal. This will hurt Aq Qoyunlu the most.
 * Aq Qoyunlu
 * Assyria 
 * Circassia 
 * Dulkadir 
 * Egypt 
 * Ramazan 
 * Oman 
 * Shaybah 
 * Yemen 

Yemen Joining
Premise: Yemen will only join if eastern Yemen becomes a state. Argument for: Yemen will join, giving us a cultural boost. Argument against: The Mamluks have to give up territory. Votes: Resolution: Bill is passed with a unanimous vote.
 * Aq Qoyunlu 
 * Circassia 
 * Dulkadir 
 * Egypt 
 * Hafsids 
 * Oman 
 * Shaybah 
 * Ramazan <FOR>
 * Yemen <FOR>

Cleansing Georgia
Premise: Georgia is full of Christians, who do not speak any of the official languages. The proposal is for there to be mass genocide, and the treating of Christian Georgians as second class.

Argument For: Georgia will fully integrate into the Empire and there will be order in Georgia, with no revolts. This'd allow Georgia to start anew and for us to actually be able to control it. This will be highly effective as assimilation rates would be off the roof.

Argument Against: The techniques used will be slightly brutal. In the midst, there is a small chance the Georgians will revolt. It also goes against a lot of Islamic law.

Votes: Resolution: 9/14 votes for the bill. 5/14 were against the bill. The vote for is 64%. The votr against is 35%. By the power vested in the treaty which has made the Courte, the Cleansing of Georgia shall not happen.
 * Circassia <FOR>
 * Crimea <FOR>
 * Dulkadir <FOR>
 * Egypt <AGAINST>
 * Georgia <AGAINST>
 * Granada <FOR>
 * Hafsids <FOR>
 * Oman <AGAINST>
 * Ottomans <AGAINST>
 * Ramazan <FOR>
 * Shaybah <FOR>
 * Wallachia <AGAINST>
 * Yemen <FOR>
 * Zayyanids <FOR>

Allaince With Novrogod
Premise: Novogrod wants an alliance with the DME...

Argument For: If we accept we will have a strong European ally that hates the Catholic Christendom as much as we do. Also, we will gain much land and influence in the Golden Khanate.

Argument Against: The are Orthodox.

Votes:
 * Circassia <FOR>
 * Dulkadir <AGAINST>
 * Georgia <FOR>
 * Oman <AGAINST> (They are non-Muslim infidels!)
 * Qoyunlu <AGAINST>
 * Ramazan <AGAINST>
 * Shaybah <AGAINST>
 * Ottomans <FOR>
 * Wallachia <FOR>
 * Malmuks <FOR>

Resolution: Eh. At the time it was voted upon it wouldn't have passed, too many against.

The invasion of Sind
Premise: Some high ranking officials in the Caliphate such as the Provincial governments of Deccan, Koli and Gujarat want to invade Sind as part of the Caliphate's efforts to become one continuous land empire.

Arguments for: If we take over Sind, we can then stage a two front invasion of the Timurids making that war much easier. Furthermore when we establish the land link between the Indian and Middle Eastern provinces trade will be easier and we will have more people to tax and more natural resources to mine.

Arguments against: Innocent people may be killed, the Sindi people may revolt against our rule, Sind may defeat us in war, our soldiers will be killed, hippies will get annoyed, war is costly, we will have to rebuild Sind after the war is over and if we lose then who knows what we will have to give Sind as war reparations.

Votes:
 * Koli <FOR>
 * Deccan <FOR>
 * Gujarat <FOR>
 * Oman <FOR>
 * Shaybah <FOR>
 * Hadramaut <FOR>
 * Yemen <FOR>
 * Hijaz <FOR>
 * Egypt <FOR>
 * East Qoyunlu <FOR>
 * Persia <FOR>
 * Dulkadir <FOR>
 * Ramazan <FOR>
 * Karaman <FOR>
 * Candar <FOR>
 * Georgia <NEUTRAL>
 * Circassia <NEUTRAL>
 * West Qoyunlu <NEUTRAL>
 * Syria <AGAINST>
 * Palestine <AGAINST>

Resolution: The invasion of Sind shall go ahead! Someone should calculate the percent and place it here, just for offcial and statistics.

The invasion of the Timurids
Premise: A two front invasion of the Timurid-held territory in central Asia. Gujarat, Persia and East Qoyunlu will be able to launch simulatious land invasions as part of a two front war against the Timurids. We would also be the stronger naval power so we could easily supply our armies via the coastline too. Two or three provinces should be carved out of the Timurid territory should be win this war, as this would please the Timurid populace as they would have a fair amount of autonomy.

Arguments for: The Timurids are currently separating the two sections of the Caliphate (middle east & India). If we invade and take over the Timurid land then we would be one large continuous land empire. Thus inter-caliphate trade would be made easier between provinces and we would also gain control over the various resources in Timurid territory. We can also spread Islam to this deprived region.

Arguments against: Innocent people may be killed, the Timurids may revolt against our rule, the Timurids may defeat us in war, our soldiers will be killed, war is costly, we will have a lot of work to do integrating such a large area like the Timurid territories into the Caliphate.

Votes:
 * Koli <FOR>
 * Deccan <FOR>
 * Gujarat <FOR>
 * Oman <FOR>
 * Shaybah <FOR>
 * Nejd <FOR>
 * West Qoyunlu <FOR>
 * East Qoyunlu <FOR>
 * Circassia <FOR>
 * Georgia <FOR>
 * Dulkadir <FOR>
 * Ramazan <FOR>
 * Candar <FOR>
 * Karaman <FOR>
 * Persia <NEUTRAL>
 * Egypt <FOR>
 * Syria <FOR>
 * Palestine <FOR>
 * Hadramwt <FOR>
 * Yemen <FOR>

Resolution: The Timurids shall be invaded and their lands will become Caliphate provinces.

War with Byzantium
Premise: Byzantium has continiusly ignored Rumelian request to stop military build up. Th proposal is to start a war with Byzantium. 2 States would be formed out of their territory. The peninsula and Western Thrace/Macedonia.

Argument For: We get Greater Contol over the Black Sea. We may retake Qustantaniyye and that said, control the trade throught the straits.

Argument Against: We have to fight the HRE, which might destabilise the economy.

Votes: Resolution: 16/25 (68%) voted for the proposal. 8/15 (32%) voted against the proposal. By the powers invested in the treaty of Muslims, and with the blessing of the most wise Caliph, war be with Byzantium!
 * West Qoyunlu <FOR>
 * East Qoyunlu <FOR>
 * Iraq <FOR>
 * Persia <FOR>
 * Dulkadir <FOR>
 * Ramazan <FOR>
 * Karaman <FOR>
 * Circassia <FOR>
 * Georgia <AGAINST>
 * Candar <AGAINST>
 * Koli <NEUTRAL>
 * Deccan <FOR>
 * Gujarat <AGAINST>
 * Nejd <AGAINST>
 * Shaybah <FOR>
 * Oman <FOR>
 * Egypt <FOR>
 * Hadramwt <FOR>
 * Yemen <FOR>
 * Hijaz <FOR>
 * Palestine <AGAINST>
 * Syria <AGAINST>
 * Rumelia <FOR> (assuming)
 * Wallachia <FOR> (assuming)
 * Anatolia <FOR> (assuming)

So, may I th Caliph, declare war on Byzantium in my post, or no, I must know before i post

Vote for the new Caliph
Okay lets vote for the new Caliph to succeed Marwan III and then once we have decided, we will re-enact this vote and succession in game. Each player can put forward 1 candidate to be elected. Please give your candidate a name, a back-story and reasons why you should & shouldn't vote for them. Once we have our candidates voting shall commence. Also note that this isn't the Mahdi Caliph, that is the next Caliph (or one after this one).

Yazid IV
Yazid is the close advisor & cousin to Caliph Marwan III, so has experience in ruling the Caliphate. Yazid is also a general for the Caliphate armies in Hejaz. He is an autocrat ruler but a firm upholder of the faith, and he'd do much to expand the Caliphate's influence.

Muhammad Ibn Marwan
Muhammad is the son of the Caliph Marwan III. In 1500, he is 24 years old. He has been ruling West Qoyunlu, since he was ten, and has loads of experience with ruling provinces, and due to him being personally being involved in the Great Holy War, is a great leader of armies. He does however have two orthodox wives, which is allowed, but might make him seem wierd to some Muslims. He also sets us up for the Mahdi scenario, since he is to have a son by the name Muhammad, who will in turn have 2 sons by the name Muhammad. Muhammad can speak Turke, Common Turkish, Persian, Arabic, and Russian (learnt from his wives). He is currently building a memorial to one of the founders of the Caliphate, Uzun Hassan, his uncle. Also, considering that he is the son of Marwan III, he is related to the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).