Alternative History:TSPTF requests

Bob
I have thought this over, and I have decided to withdraw myself from the nominations. I cannot commit myself to this website, no matter how much I'd like to. I am simply not the material you are looking for. I urge you to vote for someone more willing and able to complete the task ahead. South seems ideal. He is focussed, knows his stuff and has an outstandingly wide breadth of knowledge. Thank you. Bob 08:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters


 * 1) I bwlieve he will do a great job in this position, as he has shown to fair, balanced and very helpful to many user, including myself. Tbguy1992 17:02, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Vegas adict 19:19, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) BoredMatt 19:08, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors


 * Discussion
 * A few questions. Has Bob accepted this nomination? If so he does need to explain why he would make a good Lt. Furthemore one of the requirements is that a Lt. be 18 years or older and according to his Facebook page he is only 17 (sorry if this sounds stalkerish Bob but we are friends on Facebook). Nevertheless that requirement will be waived if Bob shows that he has "one and a half years' worth of solid contribution to the site." Bob you are going to have to address that before I vote. Mitro 19:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I must add that this isn't a reflection on the quality of alternate histories offered, because I have had serious concerns about Bob's efforts in that regard at times past. At the same time, Bob has proved tractable by the wider group @ 1983:DD, and I think that Bob could make a fair administrator, provided the questions posed by Mitro are answered. Louisiannan 06:45, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why does age actualy matter Mitro, someones age doesn't affect there ability to be an administrator I knew a Thirteen year old who made a very good Admin on another wiki. Why then does it matter that Bob is 17 if he is capable of conducting his duties as an Admin and explains why he wants to be one? Vegas adict
 * Like all other "job descriptions," there have to be some limits. The fact that a 13 year-old proved to be good at managing a wiki does not mean that he could have the knowledge and experience to monitor the time lines of this wiki. That goes for an unexperienced minor even of the age of 17. In a wiki with such complicated subject matter, maturity matters. Alternate history must be based on facts and research, not fantasy and creativity. Seeing the "big picture" comes with having lived life out in the "real world" - with life experiences and research skills that put an editor and writer to the test. This is not a "power play" on the part of adults, but rather a restraint on over-active imaginations when dealing with problems that arise in real life. SouthWriter 19:49, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * South, someone of seventeen might have just as much experience as someone of eighteen and although facts and research are very important in writing Alternate History creativity isn't allways a bad thing. Its the ability to take a creative/crazy idea and back it up with research and facts that makes a good AH writer. I learned that the hard way doing part of my technology coursework last year as well as on other wikis, there's no reason people younger than 18 and with less than a year and a half's worth of contributions aren't capable of having that mix as well. I suppose i'm continuing with this because i am under eighteen and am trying to prove my point without giving you more to use. P.S why do you use quotation marks so much?Vegas adict 21:11, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * South makes some good points, but also Vegas you need to read the next part of the rule: or have one and a half years' worth of solid contribution to the site. Thus under that guidelines a 13 year old could be an admin as well. I tried to make this as fair as possible to everyone. Also I gave people weeks to comment on this procedure when it was still a proposal. Such a discussion on the rules/requirements is better left to the talk page, but not someone's nomination. BTW, this nomination is not complete yet. Bob still needs to accept it and explain why he should have the job. Mitro 21:13, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am aware of that but to make it truely fair all people applying for Administrator rights should have a year and a half's experience. I am aware that i would not have been able to qualify under that but I am of the belief that neither race, disability, gender or age should effect choosing someone for a job but it should instead be entirely based on there contributions and there relations with other users. I am also aware i should have raised this complaint earlier but when you were asking people to have a look at the new system I was in Devon and Kosovo with very litle internet access. Perhaps this is idealistic but thats what you get for being a member of the UK's youth parliamentVegas adict 21:34, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Age already effects a person's ability to get a job. How many 15 year olds work for major corporations? Not only that but there is age discrimination that is written into the laws of various countries. Drinking ages, driving ages, age limits on joining the military, child labor laws, voting ages, etc. Nevertheless, maybe you are right about the rule, but I am not going to change midway through a nomination. As long as Bob meets the exception then he is good to go. Mitro 21:45, August 14, 2010 (UTC)