Talk:Canada (1983: Doomsday)

I thought the capital of canada was up north in nunavut.--Marcpasquin 13:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Was it? I don’t remember the timeline saying anywhere what Canada’s new capitol would be so I just picked one that would probably have survived a Nuclear War. If the capitol is in Nunavut than you can change it to Iqaluit.--ShutUpNavi 14:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that it's established that the Canadian remnant is a good deal smaller & less powerful than suggested here. A still-powerful Canada would change the dynamics of the world pretty drastically.  Benkarnell 15:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * As I have suggested on another page, there might be a slew of regional governments in canada with great autonomy, some acknowledge Iqaluit (if only through lip service) while other maintain their sovereignty.


 * I think their need to be a clear distinction made between what is *claimed* by the government of Canada and what is actualy under its control.--Marcpasquin 16:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I’m not suggesting that Canada should play a major role in the timeline; in fact the only thing thats left of Canada is the Maritime Provinces, the three territories in the north, and maybe the extreme northern parts of the main Provinces in the south. All of them are going to do little more than provide food, water, and some shelter so the people don’t starve (everyone that is not in these areas however will). Fredericton is in no way a big powerful city. In 1980 it had less than 45,000 people, and a decreasing economy.--ShutUpNavi 16:58, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the population though I think I have got it too high. Since 95% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US I obviously overestimated it. I will try and get it back down to a reasonable level.--ShutUpNavi 18:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Canadian, here. Canada's capital is Ottawa, in Ontario. Like most major Canadian cities, it is near the US. It would probably be destroyed. Personally, I think Toronto, Vancouver, and Winnipeg would also be destroyed. Not sure why Quebec and Montreal would be spared though. Also, why is the currency listed as the Franc? The Quebequois don't use francs, they use Canadian Dollars like the rest of us. DarthEinstein 19:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The "quebec-centric" aspect of this article was a change brought on by anonymous user 84.68.164.4 back in february. I guess no one notice since. As for the Franc, that denomination was not even used in colonial time (it was the "livre") so I dont see why canada, even a mostly francophone one, would use it--Marcpasquin 20:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This article doesn't flow with the TL's info on Canada, it may need some overhaul. I'm going to list it as contradictory for the time being.  Mitro 20:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Which parts don't mesh with the rest of the TL? DarthEinstein 20:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well first certain cities survived destruction despite being destroyed in this TL (see first map). Also there is no mention of the "Canada Remainder Provinces" as the remnants of Canada are referred to throughout the TL.  Next, in a lot of articles the only provinces that survived were Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and Nunavut (located around Iqualuit).  As Marc said above also, the "quebic-centric" parts are not currently canon.  Also the Canadian government is at Halifax.
 * While new things may be added and some minor details may be changed, due to this TL's size and # of editors, we should be wary to make major changes to the canon on a minor articles or else find ourselves making massive changes across a host of articles. The fact that Quebec and Edmonton survived seem to me to not be meeting the general apocalyptic theme of the TL and is a major contradiction to the current canon on Canada.
 * I'm actually surprised Prince Edwards Island didn't survive, that may need to be addressed. Mitro 21:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually looking at the map Halifax was hit, that may be a problem. Mitro 22:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright then, so I'll list the surviving major cities according to the map: Look again, I think Edmonton got hit. And PEI seems not to have been hit.
 * Quebec
 * Victoria
 * Iqaluit
 * Yellowknife
 * Whitehorse
 * Fredericton
 * Charlottetown
 * St. John's

So say that the western provinces separate/descend into anarchy, as well as southern Ontario. Then Nova Scotia (what's left), New Brunswick, PEI, Quebec, Newfoundland/Labrador and the territories create the Canadian Remainder Provinces, with Quebec annexing part of Northern Ontario. The capital would most likely be Fredricton, as New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province. DarthEinstein 22:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think from the map that its pretty obvious that Quebec was hit if you compare the nuke strike map with a map of Canada. Its also seems most likely that Quebec would have been hit during WWIII. Also I don't believe I ever said Edmonton was not hit or that PEI was, in fact I expressed confusion that PEI has not been mention. Mitro 22:37, 7 June 2
 * Oh, you're right, Quebec was hit. According to the map, PEI was not hit, and Edmonton was. Still, what's left of Quebec province (Sherbrooke wasn't nuked) and the other survivers could create the Canadian Remainder Provinces with Fredericton as capital.DarthEinstein 22:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I forgot about New Brunswick, though I'm worried about their close proximity to the Quebec City – Windsor Corridor and New England and whether the province would be overwhelmed by refugees. I will need to do more research on that.  Mitro 03:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Prime Minister after Doomsday
Brian Mulroney was an MP for Nova Scotia at the time of DD. Wouldn't he have been killed when Ottawa was destroyed? I don't think it would be plausible that he would be the new PM. Mitro 15:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, who would you suggest? DarthEinstein 15:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well since it would be the provincial/territorial governments that would meet and restart the government, it would be someone from that system who would get the job. I would suggest Jim Lee, the premier of PEI at the time of DD.  He seems the most logical choice.  Mitro 15:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)