Treaty of Constantinople (Principia Moderni III Map Game)

The Treaty of Constantinople was the treaty that ended the conflict between the Tripartite Pact and the forces of the allied coalition.

Territorial

 * India shall be partitioned into four independent nations on the basis of religion or culture, as described below.
 * The Kingdom of the Punjab will be established around the Punjab and Indus regions. This country will be occupied by the Roman Empire for a period of 15 years to establish a competant government as well as train the new nation's military.
 * The Kingdom of Burma will be re-established in the Buddhist majority regions in eastern India. This country will be occupied by the Commonwealth of Borealia for a period of 15 years to establish a competant government as well as train the new nation's military.
 * The Republic of Dravidia will be established in the Hindu majority regions in southern India. This country will be occupied by the Kingdom of Spain for a period of 15 years to establish a competant government as well as train the new nation's military.
 * The Empire of India will remain in the Muslim majority areas of the center of the subcontinent, however the government will be reconstituted accordingly as follows below. This region will be occupied by the three major powers for a period of ten years to ensure local stability.
 * Aceh and other Indian lands or vassals on the island of Sumatra will be ceded to the Spanish West Indies.
 * The Andaman and Maldive Islands will be confirmed as Borealian territory.

Financial

 * The treasury of the Empire of India will be divided amongst the three great powers and the four successor states.

Political

 * The current government of the Empire of India will be dissolved and a new government will be instituted in its place. This government will be a constitutional parliamentary monarchy.
 * The capital of the Empire of India will be moved from Calcutta to Mahmudpur.
 * The leaders of the current government as well as members of the current royal family of India will be exiled to a country to be later determined.
 * Punjab, Dravidia, India, and Burma will acknowledge the borders established by this treaty as the new borders of the land and will respect them as such. The signatories of this treaty are obligated to intervene against any signatory who tries to alter the border or otherwise invade another signatory without cause to belief imminent threat is at hand.

Territorial

 * The Grand Principality of Assyria will expand down to the coast of the Persian Gulf and incorporate that land within itself. The Grand Principality of Assyria will be reformed into the Kingdom of Mesopotamia, assimilating many of the current Assyrian political structures. Roman troops shall be stationed in Mesopotamia for a period of ten  years to assist in reconstruction and local stability.
 * The Zoroastrian region of Hycania shall be granted independence. Roman and Tartar troops will be stationed in Hycania for a period of five years to establish local stability.
 * The regions of Azerbaijan and Turkestan will be ceded to the Tartary.
 * The regions of Persia, Balochistan, possibly Tajikistan, and eastern Kurdistan shall be granted independence as the Iranian Empire. Troops will only be stationed in the Iranian Empire if the Iranian government requests.
 * The region of Somalia will be granted independence.
 * Ethiopia shall annex the remainder of the region of Eritrea.
 * The island of Socotra will be returned to the Roman Empire. In addition lands east of Sinai and south of Syria will be ceded to the Roman Empire.
 * The remainder of the Caliphate will be reformed into the Sultanate of Arabia.
 * Coalition troops will occupy the Hejaz and the Gulf coast for a period of ten years to ensure local stability.

Financial

 * The treasury of the Caliphate will be divided amongst the various sucessor states.

Political

 * Mesopotamia will inherit Assyria's spot in the Holy League. Hycania will also join the Holy League.
 * The Sultanate of Arabia will maintain the office of Caliph as a purely religious office. The Caliph will be elected from members of the various Arabian dynasties related to Mohammed by the new Shura Council of Mecca.
 * The Sultanate of Arabia shall be a parliamentary constitutional monarchy headed by the Rashidi dynasty.
 * The capital of the Sultanate of Arabia shall be Mecca.
 * The various signatories of this treaty will acknowledge the borders of this treaty and refrain from attempting to alter them by any means.

Territorial
A good portion of these were told to me by others, so if you object to them, don't hate on me please.
 * The region of Alsace-Lorraine will be ceded to France.
 * The region of Venezia and Trentino will be ceded to Lombardy.
 * A strip of the borderland near the north Rhine will be ceded to the Netherlands.
 * The region of the Memelland will be ceded to Lithuania.
 * The region of New Brunswick and the city of New Hamburg will be ceded to the Reman Empire.
 * The region of Kuba will be granted independence and join the UBH.
 * The region of Belize will be granted independence and join the UBH.
 * The region of New Norderney will be granted independence and join the UBH.
 * The Canary Islands will join the Spanish protectorate of Morocco.
 * The territory of German West Africa will join Spanish West Africa.
 * The region of Borneo will join the Spanish West Indies.
 * The territory of Kamerun will be ceded to Brazil.
 * The region of New Rugia will join the Union of Australia.
 * All arctic territories, including Greenland and Svalbard, will be ceded to Algonquia.

Financial

 * The treasury of Germany will be divided between the German successor state, independent states formed out of German territory, and the victorious powers, in the form of reparations.

Political

 * The present German government will be dissolved and new one in the form of a constitutional parliamentary monarchy with a new German royal family will be put in its place.
 * Germany will be occupied jointly by the great powers in this treaty as well as the Roman Empire, who will act as a neutral mediator between the victorious powers and Germany.
 * This occupation will continue for 15 years, upon which the various powers will withdraw from Germany and Germany will join the Holy League so that an extremist expansionist government will not emerge unchallenged.

Concerning World Peace and Stability
This is for UN stuff that I haven't really talked to anyone about yet, so that part comes later.

Concerning India
The Treaty seems alright, however there are particular demands of the Treaty that are implausible and cannot exist on historical basis.


 * The Kingdom of the Punjab will be established around the Sikh homeland areas of the Punjab and Indus regions. This country will be occupied by the Roman Empire for a period of 15 years to establish a competant government as well as train the new nation's military.

It should be important to note that whilst Sikhism is entered around Punjab, the Sikhs historically were a minority in Punjab. Hence, a Sikh state in Punjab cannot really exist unless the Roman Empire plans on genociding and expelling the entire Muslim populace to supposedly facilitate the creation of a Sikh state. Doing so would naturally result in rebellions and start insurgencies which under plausible circumstances would succeed. Basically, a Sikh state cannot exist in a long run as its birth would be marred with violence and its economy would naturally collapse. The Sikhs represent less than 10% of the population for Punjab. If anything, create a Punjab state over a 'Sikh state'. The former would actually make sense. Dividing India culturally, instead of religiously.


 * The Andaman Islands will be confirmed as Borealian territory. A military and rocket base will be given to Borealia in the Maldives, which will be part of Dravidia. 

The islands of Maldives are not culturally, religiously, linguistically or ethnically similar to Dravidia. Hence, it would lack any sense for Maldives to be handed over to the nation of Dravidia.


 * The capital of the Empire of India will be moved from Calcutta to Delhi.

The decision lacks any sense no matter how one looks at it. Calcutta has been developed as an international economic centre, and a major port in Asia. It has also been the administrative capital of India for atleast a 100 years. In comparison, Delhi has not served as an administrative capital since it was briefly held by the Mughals in 1400s. After that, the city of Delhi remained part of Jaunpur albeit not as their capital. Following that, it was held by the Suris in 1700s who however had their capital in Kabul. Hence, Delhi isn't an administrative centre capable of holding together India. It is no more than a rotting city that once served as the heart of the Delhi Sultanate.


 * The Timurids will return to take the throne of the Empire of India.

The Timurids have no claim to India, and would under no circumstances be accepted by the Indian populace. The Timurids and their Mughal descendants fled to Eire and later Croatia when they were defeated in 1500s, and that is when the Timurid chapter in India was closed. They have no supporter base and have absolutely no importance. Appointing Timurids as Monarchs for India would be no different than a Palaiologos being appointed as ruler for Turkey after WWI.

What about Australia in the Indian bit? ~ AH28

I agree with Rimp here. I propose the following changes (which he agrees with me on chat): --Nathan1123 (talk) 17:32, August 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cede the Maldives to Borealia
 * Keep the royal family of India the same
 * Keep Punjab as part of India Kingdom of Pujab is still a thing, but not Sikh
 * Move the Capital to Mahmudpur instead of Delhi

Concerning Germany
I'm fine with all the territorial cessions of Germany, however I'm irked by the financial and some of the political provisions.

Firstly, why is the German treasury being partitioned and cut up when Germany itself is remaining a united, unbroken country? I talked to MP about it, and he just said that's what people told him.

Secondly, I can live with a governmental dissolution and a new one taking its place, but a monarchy? Why? Why put in place a monarchy when most of the nations fighting me, most prominently Republican France, are non-monarchies?

Thirdly, I don't really trust any of the major powers to occupy German territory without pulling something shifty. Thank Spar for this post on Fritz's talk page, asking to annex the part of German territory he would be occupying.

Finally, I think the post-war occupation period is too long. I'm fine with 10 years, but 15 is too long. Again I am still highly untrustworthy of any of the occupying powers not sticking by their word and acting wholly implausible and/or break the rules. I'm also curious as to why Germany must join the Holy League. If it's assurance that Germany won't be subjected to implausible, meta-gaming, gangbang wars, I'm fine with it, but if it's for any other reason, I'm wary.

Those are all my grievances, and I'm much more pleased with this Treaty rather than the implausible, "let's cut up Germany because the mods are inactive" Geneva Treaty. I was Normandy in PM2. It was great. (talk) 22:12, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

I'd like some land for Algonquia, considering I was involved and contributed to a fair degree. I'm not sure why this was changed front he previous treaty. ᐊ ᒋᐟᕀ ᐃᐣ ᕒuᐢᓯᐊ 22:29, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

What is the point of making a second treaty about Germany? Most of the terms on here are already on the Treaty of Geneva. Also if it's any consolation, Cookie, I disregarded that message from Spar and didn't put it into the treaty for a reason. And meanwhile people complain that I tried to "make everyone Brazil's bitch" with the first treaty, when this one makes Germany join the Roman sphere basically. Also why is the proposed cold war with Japan and not Rome, come to think of it. Fritzmet (talk) 22:32, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

The First treaty was absolutely ridiculous and Crim, Sine, Sky, and MP have all said on facebook (oh wait, Edge proclaimed that Facebook isn't a "valid" means of communication) that Geneva was not a suitable treaty at all. Considering that Britannia, Russia, and possibly Silesia and Poland have been retconned, as well as numerous other problems with the algos, a new treaty is a better solution. And Fritz, I'm wary of the Roman sphere business as well. I was Normandy in PM2. It was great. (talk) 22:41, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Why didn't the Netherlands get any lands?~Tao64