User talk:IndigoOnIceCream



Warning
As a new editor, I understand it may be intriguing to have the badge system, however according to this, "Unconstructive contributions and edits made only to get badges will not be tolerated. Editors suspected of editing for this reason will be warned first and then blocked from editing if they continue." This is your warning. If you make edits such as the ones you have made on 1983DD just to get a badge, or making blogs, commenting on blogs, etc., you will be blocked from editing on this wiki for an allotted amount of time. ChrisL123 00:59, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Leave one more post anywhere that is spam, or for badges, and you are getting blocked. For quite a while. Lordganon 07:25, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

If you ever remove a warning and related posts from your page like that again, it will be a month. Lordganon 00:00, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me? You honestly left a post like that on my page when I added a category to a page? Just how badly to you want to get blocked?

If I ever find you doing that again, you will be.

I'm not going to leave you any more warnings. Any more violations of any kind and it's a block.

Lordganon 00:15, October 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Uh, yeah, what he said. All I did was add the category to the page. You never told me once not to edit your page, and it isn't against the rules. What is against the rules is another user adding any additional information that was not given permission to by the author. ChrisL123 00:25, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Quit spamming. Seriously, you know better. Your behavior lately is wrong, and I'm tired of it. One more tiny bit and you're gone for a week. Lordganon 04:19, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re: HOW?
Hello there. Are you 76.21.104.140? If you are, I am sorry to say this, but I have protected the talk page from anonymous users and newly registered users. This is because I feel I have been being harassed and pestered by 76.21.104.140. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:30, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I have had enough
I have had enough of your disrespect and harassment. You continue to note me on every, little thing; You are talking to me like I am just a puppet for you to turn this timeline around in your image; and you continue to harass me even after myself and other have told you to stop. I am sorry to have to do this, but I am going to be blocking you for a week. I will hope that this will help you understand that this is a community, not your castle. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:55, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re: My Apology
Thank you so much. I accept your apology. I too need to apologize to you. I didn't want to block you, but I felt it was the only option at the time. I really hope I didn't make you loose interest in the timeline. I know your heart is in the right place, you just need to know how to construct it (if that makes any sense). Plus, harassing and pestering isn't a good way to do this XD

I know I stated this timeline is open, but not in the manner as you have been doing prior. The only way I can explain it is... you see a cake at your friends house, and they say "help yourself." Do you really think they want you to eat two-thirds of the cake? I know a hypothetical situation isn't a good analogy, but that is the only think I can think of.

Too answer your questions:


 * 1) The main reason I removed it was out of spite. This wasn't good of me to do, and I will revert it ASAP. But need to get a better understanding of it before I make it canon.
 * 2) You can call this 100% my fault. I never read the rules either, so I had no idea Wikipedia copy and pasting wasn't allowed XD

Again, I really hope I didn't make you loose interest in the timeline. I will also be removing the block on the talk page, but I am keeping the block on the main page (until its time runs out). I blocked it not just of your actions, but because the page was getting too many edits from other users. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:51, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

For the record, if I see any of that stuff out of you again, the block will be a lot longer than what Nuke gave you. Lordganon 00:13, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

United Democracies
No on all counts. There's a reason why it works in the President McCain article, which is not applicable in New Union. Lordganon 23:00, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

There's no reason for it, at all. At about 5:50 Server Time it will likely fix itself. Give it time, I guess. Lordganon 23:29, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Stuff
I know you don't want anybody commenting on your section in the main talk page until it is complete. I hope you don't mind if I write you here. Overall, I love it. Very detailed, and pretty accurate for what I have had in mind all along. I only have two things I need to state:


 * 1) I would like to stress out that the CSTO is in no way a "Reborn Warsaw Pact." It began as a military cooperation between the Soviet Union and Armenia. Georgia and Mongolia will join later on, but it won't expand beyond that. After doing research on it, I have decided to make Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and Albania as observers (rather than members). I know that you are keen on the expansion of the CSTO, but I can't see it expanding beyond the four member that are in place.
 * 2) Abortion illegal? Is this your personal opinion, or can you show me an article that shows this becoming a fact, or a quote that Gorbachev supported the abolishment of abortion? I am not an expert on the issue, but I am pro-choice, and Russia is in OTL. I dough the USSR would be too different from OTL Russia. Despite the fact that religious beliefs are becoming more widespread across the USSR, I would believe they would continue to have a secular view on these manners (as in OTL).

Other than those two, keep up the great work. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:34, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Categorization
You have no right to complain about other users following wiki policy by placing your articles into the correct categories (as you did to ChrisL123 and Lordganon when they added categories to the article "Think Before You Enact"); and you certainly can't accuse people of not following the rules when you are the one violating wiki conventions and they are only fixing your mistake.

You can control the content of your Timelines, but if you aren't following wiki policy, then other users have the right to edit your articles to fix that.

Mister Sheen 13:50, October 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it, it wasn't a major infraction like using a sockpuppet or anything. Just remember to stick to the policies (they really aren't so bad), and if you do have any disputes, try to at least stay courteous, and you'll do fine. The fact that you apologized shows a lot – plenty of people would just have kept on flaming and gotten themselves banned. - Mister Sheen 18:20, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Apologies mean little if similar actions continue to repeat themselves.

There is no need to respond to apologies.

Past that, you've been warned. And won't be getting another.

Lordganon 08:40, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yank
User:Yankovic270 is the controller of Vietnam. LurkerLordB 23:49, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

We
RWG, you were told by RvB to not touch it. To quote him: "So you are more than welcome, in fact I encourage, to suggest additions to the timeline or comment on what would likely happen next. You can even propose whole additions...but I'm kind of tentative to accept another person on as a contributor, if you can understand"

That is not permission to do anything at all to it.

Lordganon 00:43, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Hi - my old McCain althist is pretty much abandoned by now, partly because I don't have time for it (I already focus on my Fall Grun and SIADD timeline when I get time to do anything). The New Union timeline looks interesting - I would perhaps like to do something to Czechoslovakia (my native country), as while my other native country Norway probably is the same as OTL, there is room in the former to do something, both politically (elections, politicians etc.) and culturally (sports - with the brilliance of Czech hockey players in the late 1990s and various points the 2000s, combined with Slovakia they would be a powerhouse like the Soviets, and the situation would look a bit like the Cold War, where the USSR and Czechoslovakia constantly fought for gold in the Olympics and World Championship).

--Realismadder 21:01, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Principia Moderni
To conquer Kashmir you must withdraw to the area you control and then reattack in a few years. Also if Russia joins your side, Sweden and Denmark and their vassals will withdraw support as Russia is somewhat of an enemy to the Swedish interests. Scandinator

Did you realy want to invade Armenia? because Armenia is a puppet of Russia, the State I'm Controling. If you wanted someting from it then you could solve it diplomaticaly, but if you want a war its you choice, message me back in my talk page and label it Principia Moderni Persia please. thanks LxCaucassus 23:44, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

If you want armenia, I can solve that diplomaticaly. You shouldn't go on gian expansion sprees rightnow, you should focus more on modernizing your nation and making it more stable on 5 years so your overall power can increase and its easier to capture people. If i declare war on a Non-Player state, I'm almost guaranteed a win right now. TRy to recover militarily right now, then in 10-15 turns when your stability is higher, go for a war, and kick the hell out of your opponents!LxCaucassus 10:55, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest establishing colonies and taking on the Mughals ASAP to gain Hanthawaddian trade. Currently to survive economically you are relying on Russian and Chinese trade. Scandinator

Great Northern War( Principia Moderni)
Can you please Help me in this, If you dont I'll lose for sure but if you do help me I can win it and you can have parts of Armenia as compensation(I did help you conquer Kashmir, after All)LxCaucassus 17:55, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Sweden does have a colony in IndiaLxCaucassus 18:21, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Look at the External Territories page, that should show how many colonies they have unless they forgot to put someLxCaucassus 18:39, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

NOTE: Sweden helped to force Vietnam to stop the planned invasion of Persia and was the FIRST person to help in Kashmir. Scandinator

Sorry, but that is the way it is in wars on PM. Just declare neutrality.Scandinator

Axis vs Alies alies
Welcome! I would not minde if we restarted it. It became a bit ASB, but we could try and re-lanch it. Add a post today!86.29.69.146 15:53, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Look through the history and archives. Have fun, think war and economics. Usual rules of map games apply. 86.29.69.146 (AKA-Billy) 15:55, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

With wars write as plausible type of assult and enamy responce, then do what you want there after with the captured land. 86.29.69.146 17:01, November 1, 2011 (UTC) (AKA Billy)

AvAr Japanese Mexico
The URA would probably be able to squash the whole of Japanese Mexico, not just 1 base (attack the whole colony). America and Venezuela were very developed and merged in to a superpower. Japan had apparently neglected it's American holdings in Mexico in favor a war to annex Malaya. 86.29.69.146 (AKA-Billy) 15:55, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for joining the game.82.11.96.210 (AKA-Billy) 12:30, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just say you have finaly over-run Japanese Mexico and it's yours. I think Japan's user has quit, so it's easy pickings!82.14.49.186 03:37, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Francaphone activity is opened up in Hindu held Yeman, :-)82.11.87.156 03:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sending troops to your aid.86.29.76.198 17:36, November 6, 2011 (UTC)AKA Billy

Return of the Kennedys
I have been busy lately..

I was begganing to be conviced that Return of the Kenndyies was implausible.. Thanks for your interest however,

you can start by adding descriptions to the 1984/1988 Elections.

Alexanders 23:42, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

I will get back to work on it too.

Expanding into India
The time is ripe. India is weakened by 3 years of famine. I suggest conquering Multan in 1706, Sindh in 1708, Rajputs in 1710, Gujrat is 1712 and finally Malwa in 1714 with knocking each out it one year and then developing your military. You have enough power to achieve this. Also Sweden can support you if you need it. This process will give you all the North Indian states by 1714. For the Muhals just jump on the bandwagon. Scandinator 05:26, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re: I finaly made my choice
thanks alot, i will sends some spetsnaz to help you(some of them will attack sweden and some will aid, sweden is my main concern now)LxCaucassus 22:06, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well attacking India evokes a second algorythm in which you will surely lose. Return the colony or else I will have to launch a full sale invasion of Southern Persia.Scandinator 04:52, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

I am a ally of both Sweden and Russia, but sometimes i tend to support Russia more.and i entered briefly on the war, but left.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:16, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sweden will return relations back to status quo if Persia supports Sweden against Russia in the next war. Also if you support a nation the other foe usually does not invade.Scandinator

re: HELLO THERE!!!!!!!!!
Well, thank you for your appreciation of CYOAH; it was designed to be a fun little thing that the entire community could support.

As for your new Alternate History, China's Decision, would you mind providing me with a link if it has been started? I couldn't seem to find in the search.

Thank you for contacting me, and feel free to make your own additions to Choose Your Own Alternate History, as many paths in the different Points of Divergence's have yet to be explored!

Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 01:18, November 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I will say it is an interesting concept, and, from my limited knowledge of Asian history (my area of expertise is Western History from 1800's to present), I would have to say the Point of divergence might have to go back a bit further than the mid-late 1800's, like when Japan decided to modernize. I would say sometime after the Opium wars (1840's) would be the better idea. Just my opinion, and I'm sure you can find other people who could help you more than I. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 03:09, November 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, so you want to treat this as a CYOAH style timeline then? Hmmm... well, I would give the full blessing to you to do this, its just that their are already three still not yet fully developed ideas for CYOAH (and are on the main page). I was hesitant to just allow anyone to make a new idea for CYOAH, or else it would have ballooned the project to ridiculous heights, while at the same time insuring that none of them ever would be even somewhat developed, just like the Map Games when everybody here tried to make their own version, which resulted in so many different versions, and resulted in a lot of inactive and discontinued games that litter the Wikia (or have since been deleted). Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 14:12, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Mughal Invasion
Lol not sure if you're prepared enough. You wanna start upgrading your military? I can weaken the Mughals at the borders. But you need to have a solid period of military expansion where there is no invasion whatsoever. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 18:52, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Napoleon's World Questions
Thank you for your interest in Napoleon's World!

To answer your questions:

1. Some countries (i.e. Denmark) were allies of Napoleon. Other parts of Europe were cumbersome to invade and control, such as Spain (mountains) and England (the channel). For the most part, Napoleon's empire stretches across the central European plain, which is easiest to travel across quickly and decisively. As for the Ottoman territories, again, mountains are cumbersome to cross, and in this TL his son does invade this territory and fails to capture it (See: War of Napoleonic Succession

2. Napoleon ceased his invasion of Russia as he advanced to the Urals and the difficulty associated with controlling wild Siberian territories beyond a high mountain range all the way from Paris or even Moscow when the people are mostly hostile

3. This is a good point I haven't thought too much about. I imagined a Russian survivor state in Siberia, as well as territories controlled by Alaska in Asia, and as you can see on the main map both Korea and Japan, as well as Persia, have absorbed considerable swaths of OTL Russian territory. This is something I would have to delve deeper into (or you, if you are interested in writing a history of Siberia and/or the fallen Russian Empire)

4. To an extent, yes, China does adopt some Western principles. France becomes an overland trading partner with Asia and there is no Opium War, and I imagined China's robust land trade with France results in technological trade. I'm not super familiar with Chinese history so the 19th century Chinese growth is a bit laggard, but there has been some established canon about China modernizing and westernizing in the first half of the 20th century (after a civil war from 1908-1917) to become a major power.

5. There are two reasons for the formation of Alaska. Most importantly, this is where hundreds of thousands, and eventually millions, of Alaskan refugees wind up. Secondly, the collapse of the British Empire leads to the partition of Upper and Lower Canada (Ontario and Quebec OTL) between the United States and France in the 1810's, but Rupert's Land and the HBC territories are less established in international law. The dispute over the Alaskan control of this territory leads to the Alaskan War, which is definitiely an article I recommend reading to get a sense of the TL's style.

6. I'm not completely sure what you mean by Pan-Americanism.

7. I always figured that Napoleon would be more concerned about controlling his European provinces than returning to Egypt. Besides, I have the Hapsburgs retreating to Egypt from Austria and forming their own short-lived state there in the early 1800's.

8. The Spanish colonies in Latin America eventually declare independence and are successful in these measures, breaking off from war-weary Spain in the late 1810's and early 1820's. Brazil peacefully splits from Portugal as in OTL. France absorbs some territory, but the colonialism of OTL is nowhere near as prevalent. England and Ireland compete for overseas influence, but the English are unable to completely conquer India, focusing their energies on Australia and Indonesia and Southern Africa.

9. Communism and Socialism do occur, but not nearly as prevalently as in OTL, and the Cold War is not a standoff between capitalism and communism. For the most part, Communism fails as an economic theory in the west by the late 1950's (due to England's civil war, called the Anarchy) and the communist regimes in Spain and Chile have failed by the end of the 1980's.

10. French naval power would have grown eventually, but again, Turkey controls the East Mediterranean, there are Hapsburg runt states in Libya and Egypt, and Spain controls Morocco. From southern France, Algeria and Gibraltar Napoleon would have control over most of the Mediterranean. France also develops a significant presence in West Africa.

11. No, not really. The Americans fight a much longer war at home against the Mexicans (a war fought on their own soil) and against Alaska (also fought on American land). America's overseas influence is still seen, but they do not capture any colonies per se while still exercising their might in Hawai'i, Vietnam, and Latin America.

12. I haven't thought of that yet. That portion is unwritten as of now. Thank you for pointing that out.

13. India never fell under control of England. Bengal was influenced by England and is an independent state. France colonized southern Pakistan and western India to form the colony of French Hindustan. Northern India is a Hindu-dominated county known as Gangestan, and southern India is a Muslim-dominated kingdom called Mysore and Hyderabad, the OTL name of the Kingdom in that area pre-British mandate.

14. To the same extent they did in this TL. Japan is well on its way to becoming a world power before the 1920's in this TL.

15. The technology is roughly analogous to OTL, though I often picture it being a year or two behind (f.ex. the iPhone released in 2009 instead of 2007, the smart phone revolution only now beginning).

16. There are multiple pages dedicated to popular culture (film, music, television, sports) in this TL. I'm a football fanatic so I've devoted a lot of energy to that. The Media and Sports categories are thorough in this regard.

17. There is one world war, called the Pacific War, in the 1920's. France fights a civil war roughly based on the European portions of WWII.

18. This is a difficult question since France has an all-mighty Emperor but a popularly elected legislature, and Japan is a military regime. Some former countries were dictatorships and no longer are. For the most part, I'd argue that the Cold War is defined more in terms of strategic interests and not "freedom"

19. It sure does! France reaches the moon first and America reaches Mars first. Owen Wilson is the first man on Mars.

20. Slavery dies a slow, long death. There is no civil war, but the economic benefit of slavery slowly vanishes thanks to an Industrial Revolution in many southern states. There is a compromise to phase slavery out (by grandfathering in current slaves) and eventually many southern states choose to abolish it. This may be optimistically positive on my part.

KingSweden 00:29, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

The answers to a lot of, if not most, of your questions can be found in the TL. There's 750 pages total, most of them cover a lot of the points you touched on. I also took some of your suggestions and created a few new pages to reflect some of the good points you brought up. The TL, of course, remains a work in progress.

KingSweden 19:07, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

The pages regarding the Suez/Sinai Canal and the Franco-Egyptian War are new, from what I remember. Umm sort of... I reserve the right to change/tweak/delete things I don't agree with/don't fit canon, and I usually prefer that people leave me suggestions on my talk page. Thats what Yankovic270 does, and he's contributed a lot of very good ideas to the TL, and I find a way to incorporate almost everything he suggests in one form or another. So in the classical sense, no, it isn't totally open. Pages like Alternate Destinies (Napoleon's World), Film (Napoleon's World) and Television (Napoleon's World) are more open-ended though, I usually don't turn into a TL-Nazi over those three.

KingSweden 15:28, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

AvA(r)
Honestly, the American's 20kt warheaded Honest John missile would be of use against your enamies in Mexico.86.29.76.198 01:47, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I am still in alliance with the URA and Hindustan, so my atacks are only on Japanes troops, not Hindustanies unless provoked.82.11.108.217 (AkA Billy) 02:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The 2nd Pluton missile is to be launched.82.11.108.217 02:16, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

French responce: Yes, the 40,000 French troops and 4 Pluton missiles in México are made available to any planed URA liberation planed for Hawaii. 02:35, November 9, 2011 (UTC)(AKA Billy)

Europe
Laptop Zombie wrote a bizzar rambleling poast clamed half the world was to be Soviet, Baltic or French. I was confused. He then made a map in which he swindled him self out of Transdanubia, Polish Galicia and part of Greece. Oxfordshire 1972 then enlarged the map. I think that is what happend to your European territories82.18.196.173 03:26, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Two Things

 * The reason I didn't mention the other nations is because there is no need for change. Either they are already moving towards reforms (like Vietnam and Laos) or there is no way for them to change in ttl without major ASB (China and North Korea). While I am not going to deny that I am intrigued at the idea of change in the PRC and the DPRK... we already have a consensus on the timeline... no major changes. The only way I would support any change is if LG goes with it.
 * Again... the Middle East is not going to change from what has been set up already. Plus... the fact that the USSR begins closer cooperation with Israel is MORE LIKELY to prevent any conflict (with the backing of both superpowers... it's pretty much just walking into a shooting range).
 * Nothing against the guy, but I never heard about Bao Tong until you have brought him up. I believe you mentioned him before. Again, nothing against him... but I dough he would be able to do anything. If you think this guy can do more than OTL, than why not design your own where he is successful.
 * Like I mentioned before... unless LG likes the idea... I am not going to be considering a second Korean War.
 * Both of those suggestions are ASB to me, and make no sense.

I would also like for you to leave my other timelines alone. I do not want you to be nominating any of them. Especially if you find my work "crazy"!!! --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:57, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

PM Algorythms
Please leave them to me. If you require an algorythm done just ask on my talk page.Scandinator 01:57, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Thank You
You're always welcome. The algorithms in fact have several errors, so judging by the above post, Scandinator will edit them for you. But I truly hope that you will decide that expansion is not what this game is about. For a fact, you are very soon in line to industrialize, so I would start modernizing and preparing. Honestly there is not much you will get out of Indian kingdoms that you do not have in your own country. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 03:56, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Check out my post in AvAr. Doctor261 15:23, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr
A few countries have broken off from the URA, please don't try to conquer them again as this will tax your army to the limit. The new countries will attract new players. However, do try to liberate a few african colonies so you could form the United States of Libera!! ;) Imperium Guy 22:47, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Tnak you very much. I would advise you to take over Quebec as otherwise it could turn communist!! :/ Imperium Guy 12:33, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW Answers
Well, all the questions you just asked have been questions that have been asked of me before regard French Trafalgar, British Waterloo. However, I will answer them again for you:


 * 1. The Battle of Trafalgar took place in October of 1805, long after Napoleon had already given up on trying to pull the Royal Navy away from the English Channel, and had already sent most of the "Army of England" eastward toward Austria to battle with the continental allies of Britain; Austria and Russia. That battle was three-four months too late, as the English Channel would have become nearly impossible for crossing with a large army: Even Hitler faced this problem in 1940, as September was determined to be the last month possible to cross before winter storms would have devastated the invasion. So, even if Napoleon wanted to, the weather, having the troops committed elsewhere and, even more simply, the fact that there where still many ships of the Royal Navy, just spread all over the globe at that time, prevented him from acting on the victory.


 * 2.Most of the battles Napoleon fought after 1805 was mostly to keep his "allies" and the different protectorates he had under control, and to enforce the "Continental System," a blockade against England. That is the reason he invaded Spain in 1808, and then Russia in 1812: to try to starve out England (though this failed miserably, as even the French Army couldn't do away without British products, being the "workhouse of the world"). So, peace with England in 1806, and then finally finishing off against Austria, Russia and Prussia by 1807, would mean he would have no other reason to invade anyone else, nor enforce a blockade with Britain.


 * 3.Yes, France does have large colonial ambitions. Napoleon was always a restless warrior, but with peace in Europe after 1806-1807, he couldn't direct his energies against the other European powers as they would all eventually gang up on France of which he would be the ultimate loser. Therefore, focusing on colonies gave him an excuse to send the army to Africa and Asia, which in turn would increase his power in Europe to eventually be able to rival the other powers.


 * 4. China will westernize sooner than OTL, but it will take a serious drubbing in the 1840's by an allied Britain and France (and, no, that alliance does not last long) to force them to realize, but even then major industrilization will not take place until the later part of the 1870's-1880's, by which time Japan would have already had a huge lead, and Russia, having industrialized earlier as well, would be able to still take chunks of China at will.


 * 5.Yes, but it will take almost another decade, as, without the crisis of the Peninsular War in 1808 distracting Spain, the Spanish will be able to keep a closer eye on the colonies. But it will happen, just it will be almost 10-15 years later than in OTL.

And, like I said before, I would rather that the other TL's be worked on first before starting yet another one. There are already three CYOAH's, but two of them had almost no work done on them. I'm afraid your idea will be just the same as them. If more work can be done on CYOAH, then I will gladly let you start another one. But right now, I'm still saying no.

Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 01:22, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Revolutions 1750
I'm trying to get the game off the ground. I'm gonna ask some people to join the game. It's a pretty interesting map game. I really hope it picks up. Just remember that I'm keeping a leash on this. Moderators will be given Delete on Sight powers on implausible actions, the algorithms will be stricter, and so on and so forth. I don't want this to turn into one of those implausible map games. Once it gets implausible, I tend to leave for a while.

Anyway, feel free to log on and have fun! CrimsonAssassin 03:42, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Nasser of Arabia
Funny you should bring it up (been thinking about it lately). The timeline was actually the first timeline I posted here. In a nutshell, it is a timeline where Syria decides to rejoin the (rather than remain independent), which leads to the entire Arab World being united under a single nation. I removed the timeline when I continued to run into ASBs in my series of events, as well as more of it being ruined with Arab Spring events of OTL. I have been doing more research on the matter, working on again, off again. I do have some intentions to bring the timeline back, but only if I can figure out how it can work without being too much of an ASB. I have several ideas, but I am keeping them to myself for now.

As for NU, I already replied to the most recent talk... days ago. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:48, November 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * What posts? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:34, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

First off, I can't believe you just got LG involved. For your information, I was the one who deleted the timeline, because I thought it was too ASB (not someone else removing it on me). Secondly, I never said I was bringing it back, but that I had intentions to MAYBE bring it back. Like I said, there are still bugs to work out. As for your questions about the timeline, I can't answer them, for the same reason I just wrote. I am honored that you like the idea, and I am happy that you have encouraged me to dig it up again, but let's take it one step at a time. K? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:52, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

RWG, you need to learn to mind your own business. At this time, you have nothing to do with such a project. Don't try to pretend that you do. Lordganon 08:23, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Timelines
No, not really. Mitro 18:55, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

You have two seconds to explain why did you delete the "Autumn" and un-strike me voiding the situation with Canada. Doctor261 (Talk to Doctor!) 08:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then, we're cool. Doctor261 ''' (Talk to Doctor261) 04:23, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World College Football Pick'em 2011
It's that time of year again! Time for the annual Napoleon's World college footbal bowl picks. For each game, pick which team you want to win and the results will be used to determine the winner of each bowl in January!

National Championship (Rose Bowl): 2 Cuba Spaniards (13-0) vs. 1 Pacifica Orcas (13-0)

Texas Bowl: (6) Alabama Crimson Tide (11-1) vs. (5) Iowa Hawkeyes (12-1)

Orange Bowl: (17) Peninsula Raptors (10-2) vs. (7) Florida State Seminoles (11-1)

Silver Bowl: (11) Washington Huskies (10-2) vs. (4) Sequoyah Braves (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: (14) Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen (10-2) vs. (3) Mississippi Falcons (12-1)

Peach Bowl: (16) Virginia Cavaliers (10-3) vs. (10) LSU Tigers (11-2)

Chicago Bowl: (12) Louisiana Pelicans (10-2) vs. (13) Michigan State Spartans (11-2)

Manhattan Bowl: (20) Notre Dame Fighting Irish (9-3) vs. (8) Massachusetts Minutemen (10-2)

Paradise Bowl: (9) San Diego Tritons (12-1) vs. (18) Northern Colorado Billy Goats (11-1)

Citrus Bowl: (15) Montana State (11-2) vs. (16) Nova Scotia (10-2)

KingSweden 22:23, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Think before You Enact
Yes, I have few questions though: Enclavehunter 23:06, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) How did this effect the rest of the world
 * 2) What happens to Asia
 * 3) Did World War 1 and World War 2 occur.

I got a think about it?Enclavehunter 23:46, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Talk Page
Ah yes. I usually don't check that talk page, to be honest, so if you have TL suggestions for me my user talk page works best, since I get updates everytime there's a comment there. China's modernization doesn't occur until after the turn of the 20th century in this TL, by which time Siberia is an established state, but the Pacific War is waged largely over China's desires to conquer the exact territory you are indicating.

KingSweden 23:07, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Talk Page
I almost never check the Napoleon's World page, so sorry if it's taken me a while to get back to you on that. The best way to reach me with ideas/suggestions/critiques is usually my user talkpage, which I check almost daily. I believe the Pacific War settled all territorial designs on southern Siberia by the Chinese, who did not begin to modernize until the 1910's and after, due to their Civil War.

KingSweden 23:09, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Asia
Chiang Kai Shek - a possible Chinese general and military leader in the Pacific War and the post-war recovery period, a great modernizer, anti-Communist and de facto leader of China during Second Sino-Japanese War

Sun-Yat Sen - a possible general and political ally of the Constitutional Imperialists during the Chinese Civil War

Hideki Tojo - a Shogun in the 1930's and early 1940's maybe, later replaced by Yamamoto

Mohadmas Gandhi - good question, since there isn't the same British influence in India during this time

Jackie Chan - Chinese 20th century intellectual, author and critic of the Imperial regime; currently living in exile in the United States for his opinions

Deng Xiaoping - Chinese military commander and top government official and advisor to Emperor Pujie during various international conflicts, like in Burma, Vietnam, and Siam from the 1970's through the 1990's

Hirohito - the Japanese royal line would be unbroken regardless, so he is still Emperor from 1926-1989

Hu Jintao - Chinese businessman and oil tycoon, maybe?

King Abdullah - If you are referring to the King of Jordan, he would be the King of Syria, where I have transplanted the Hashemite dynasty. If you are referring to the King of Saudi Arabia, then he is likely the king still until he is overthrown and Arabia becomes a republic and later an Islamic Caliphate (I obviously still need to embellish this in writing)

Chulalongkorn - still King of Siam, keeping it safe from those greedy Europeans just like OTL (maybe with Siam developing into a much more influential regional player though, and setting up its eventual allegiance with the United States prior to the Pacific War)

Corazon Aquino - maybe a Filipino resistance leader against the Japanese?

As for most Asian monarchs (including in Vietnam, Cambodia and Siam) I generally decided to keep them in power up until the 1960's or 1970's, when various anti-monarchical revolutions begin (opposed and pushed by the French, depending on geopolitical alignment).

And as for Siberia, I don't recall China being particularly expansionist in the early 19th century, or having particularly strong relations with the Europe. By the time China was in a position to invade Siberia, the Siberian state would likely have become fully formed. However, you will notice that China in this TL is already much larger than in OTL.

KingSweden 05:41, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: UAR State Flags
Thank you, but I already have ideas for flags (just need to upload them, you know XD). But if you don't mind me asking, where did you find the flags for Saoura and Khaleej? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:49, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * ... Where did you type them in? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:51, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reply
Thanks for the encouragements... :) As for the TSPTF, I guess i never really thought of it :) PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:48, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Harassment
First off, stay off of my homepage. Bad enough I have you pestering me here, I don't need it there. Comment here, I believe you are still allowed to on your talk page.

Recently, you have:


 * 1) Continued to make pointless and obviously unresearched proposals to a timeline which we have told you time and time again was not working in that direction.
 * 2) Pestered me about an old timeline, and decide to put yourself in working on it without my permission.
 * 3) Went behind my back and got LG involved in a discussion that was only between us.
 * 4) Speaking on my behalf, telling LG that I wanted to bring back a timeline which I never said I was going to at that moment.
 * 5) Reverted my edits you had no purpose or permission to do so, and than justify it by questioning why it was hidden.

And that is only what you have been doing to pester me. I can't imagine what else you could have done. LG and I have been telling you time and time again that you were on thin ice, and you still went there. At this point, I have lost all of my patience with you, and highly dough that you are capable of learning from your mistakes. I for one support LG for blocking you, and you should be thankful that you are not permanently blocked.

Wait out your two weeks. If by than you want to come back, I prey you look before you leap, or I will be the one to permanently ban you from here. I know you want to be friendly with me, but you need to learn from your mistakes. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 05:01, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

In addition.....

Add to that all of the stuff you pulled with Owen - harassing him on a wiki he admins, and acting like you have a position on this one. And, giving us a bad name with another group of admins is a bad thing, even that bunch. And, to go even further, trying to get the admins to remove a block of that nature.

A permanent block would a be stretch, but if you pull any of this stuff again, it will be longer, by far.

Lordganon 06:32, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Please forgive me. I was not trying to harass you, but somehow, what I did what I thought was not harrassing was harrassing. I am trying to be nice to you, but what I did I was not aware it was bad.
 * 1) Sorry about those ideas. You didn't have to accept them.
 * 2) I did not work on the timeline. I was letting you take the lead. Beside, I was just backing you up.
 * 3) Sorry about that. The reason I did it was because you greatly relied on LG for help, so I thought I bring help over.
 * 4) Forgive me. It was an honest mistake.
 * 5) Sorry. I did not know I was not allowed to do that. (At least you could have put a notice there).

All of that is for you Nuke, an for LG:

I swear I will never talk about Owen ever again nor harrass him. LG, I promise you that I will not stain the wiki's reputation ever again. And about the incident between the admins of the two wikis, is it the first time it has ever happen to this wiki?

P.S.: I needed to do some updates on my Map Game section on my user page. I will be quitting SPQR and States of America 3. Also, I will need someone to temporarily take control of the nations I play in the other map games until I come back.

RandomWriterGuy 03:35, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

China on GE is mine for caretaking :D Imperium Guy 10:33, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

LG, Nuke, what is your response? I kindly ask to here it. RandomWriterGuy 03:44, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I am still waiting for my response. RandomWriterGuy 23:29, December 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * This is the only time I am going to tell you, you were blocked for harassment. I don't care what it is called, but you noting me on my other wikia accounts would be considered super harassment. I have no response other than what I told you before, serve your two weeks. If you harass me again on another wikia account of mine, I will double the time you are blocked. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:14, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Please Listen
I have been trying to forgive you for a while now. You have said this to me countless times, becoming a broken record.


 * 1) First off, I have nothing against making ideas. I am only getting tired of hearing them over and over again. For instance, I love burgers, but you don't see me eating a McDonald's out of house and home. If you want my advice, do more research on the matter before posting it, and keep the ideas limited to one topic at a time. As for earlier, I was hopeful to get a new face on the timeline, and hoped you would eventually learn what the timeline is and isn't. But after so many failed attempts, blocks, and warnings; you seem to not want to cooperate with others. I am a very nice guy, and I always treat other the way I would want to be treated. But after all that has happened, I am exhausted and have had enough of playing "Mommy" to you.
 * 2) I have no idea what you are talking about. But either way, it didn't feel like that.
 * 3) Yes... I rely on LG for a lot. He is an expert on a lot more than I could imagine I can do. But he is not the "ruler" of me. I can make decisions on my own. But besides the point... I am more enraged that you when behind my back and got him involved. I never gave permission, and that is a HUGE insult to me.
 * 4) Sure
 * 5) I DID PUT A NOTICE ON IT... maybe the fact that I HID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the last straw for me, and I am still very angry that you did that. This just proves to me that you have no respect for my work, and just want to do it your way.

After reading that you want to not work with me... at this point I say good riddance!!! But I am not that type of person, and I don't want you to think negatively about me, as I don't want to think negatively about you. But if you want my advice, do what I did when I first started off here. Work on your own timelines. They are 100% your ideas, and you absolutely can't get in trouble for that. Come back when you think you are ready to work with others and listen. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:28, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

What he said. And a lot of that applies for the things you've done with regards to the wiki in general. Lordganon 02:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Adoption
Can I adopt your Think Before You Enact TL? Enclavehunter 05:56, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

BTW, I read your new TL. It's looks like its going to be good. And Good Luck on it. Enclavehunter 08:09, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

HR
I remember you had shown some interest in my only TL, Hindustani Raj. Well, you asked me how India was going to look and I think somewhat like this:

How is that? :D Imperium Guy 09:35, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Here is how I hope to make the modern map of Southern Asia:

What do you think as I hope to make Asian history go on a different path. Your opinion? :D Imperium Guy 07:50, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Think Before You Act
I do like it, the POD is clearly well-thought out. I don't know if I have time to contribute though, I barely have enough time for NW as it is. I'm more focused on my other writing projects these days.

KingSweden 21:06, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

I like it, the POD is clear and well-though out. If you need help, just ask me. Good Luck. Enclavehunter 21:04, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, my bad. Yeah it looks good. Enclavehunter 21:42, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any thing ASB. Good luck, and if you need help, just ask. =) Enclavehunter 22:08, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

you may be a mod and mapmaker on my new map game (american empire), if you wish.

DeanSims 22:00, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Whare is Shazrur?Saamwiil 01:15, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Think Before You Act
Hello RWG,

You've done quite a lot of writing in a short time. I am impressed, and the quality isn't half bad. Good job so far!

I don't have much time to spend here, but I'll assist you if and when I can do so.

As preliminary advice, you may want to compress the timeline in terms of your writing. Not that detail should be removed, but adapt the headings and organization to make the writing less dense and the division by dates more obvious. And a short introduction to the timeline on the page would draw more positive attention to the page.

Feel free to ask me to look at your work, and I'll get to it when I have the time

Cheers

Red VS Blue 04:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

You are banned
You can't edit Principia Moderni from 1667 to 1669, the next turn you will be able to edit is 1670. LurkerLordB 00:30, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

FTBW Plans
At the moment, I really don't know what to do. I'm sorta going by the seat of my pants here now for everything past 1999, just trying to write in things that make sense and can help to support the past and the future of the story.

The "Liberation Wars" after the September 10, 1999 attacks will continue to drag on in various forms through out Sorelist France and Japan, but at the moment I don't know exactly how that will play out. The Red Sea War, starting in 2002, will end in 2003, maybe 2004, but I believe I will have to add in a couple other conflicts in the Middle East to other parts of the story, especially in the 60's and 70's. Political scandal is going to rock Russia and America (Russia's has already been briefly outlined, but the US version has not yet). An economic depression, stemming from the combination of the Liberation Wars, the Red Sea War and other factors will strike before 2010, much like the current economic crisis in the world, though I have no idea how that is going to play out. However, the "Dual-Powers Conflict" will be virtually over soon, for reasons I do not wish to go into yet (because I'm waiting until after I get to the end of the actual "History" and reach the "present" to actually reveal it).

Also, work is starting to go into the many, numerous Red Links that abound throughout the timeline, as well as the need for more detail in many hastily created pages, including most of the nation's and all of the American Presidents, as well as other figures in the page. I'm still very far from done the story (if I ever will be), though the main basis of the story in the "expanded timeline" is nearly caught up to the present.

So, that is the current state of FTBW. If you would like to help out with something that interests you that has not been covered, or only briefly touched on, please let me know, and I can help set you guidelines for the general direction, as well as as of yet unpublished background material.

Thank you for your support for French Trafalgar, British Waterloo, and I hope you will enjoy the eventual result! Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 02:23, January 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * They could have, but the idea of trying to avoid "entangling alliances" was really the only reason why that America did not actively seek French help in the First American War. And, Napoleon, despite his restless nature, wouldn't have been able to do much anyway, as the Royal Navy then still was strong enough to block any attempt to reinforce the Americans by the French, despite Trafalgar. It therefore was, from the very beginning, a war between America and Britain alone. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 05:28, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Doomsday timeline

 * There are many areas of the planet which, although habitable, have not been written about (Africa mainly, but some parts of inland Asia, Europe/North America-not the nuked bits obviously) so you could start new nations there. Just remember the largest nations have already been written so the new nations would likely be small and tech poor.


 * There are some articles that are only stubs, you could ask to adopt these and expand them (just remember to follow adoption protocal).


 * Some of the editors have lots more than one article (i have several) they may be willing to 'foster out' an article to you rather than you adopt it fully.

just remember the rules -
 * If in doubt, it was nuked.
 * Radiation's a killer - so any major radiation - no nation in that area.
 * Dont use your hometown as a basis of a new nation.
 * Take into account any nearby nations, as if the lands habitable its likely its already theirs.
 * If you're thinking of setting up a nation near others, talk to the editors of those nations to agree plausablity and/or borders.

If in doubt ask on the DD talk page we're all happy to help--Smoggy80 12:18, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Alt Dest
I've always felt there was about a 60-40 split, but what did you have in mind?

KingSweden 20:51, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Also, typically important political types warrant their own article, as with US Presidents and various Prime Ministers and so on.

KingSweden 21:00, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Anarchy
Thank you, I'm glad you like it.

That's a good question. I think that by the 1950's, America is not seeking to expand land-wise and cause international criticism, or for that matter, to earn the ire of isolationists at home. I think I mention somewhere that Scotland was an ally of the United States (and if not, then I need to embellish it) and that stabilizing England would shore up their presence in Scotland. Also, by 1952 (when the first American soldiers are sent to Wales) there was interest by the Americans to play a geopolitical game with the French, and believed that maintaining a strong presence off the coast of France was critical to the evenness of the emerging Cold War, as France had Canada directly north of the United States.

Thanks for bringing that up! Got me thinking

KingSweden 01:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Ireland is an ally of the French, if not their staunchest ally.

KingSweden 06:08, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

You mean unite with Scotland? (Ireland already controls Mann after all)

KingSweden 23:58, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm I suppose the (obviously failed) potential annexation of Wales could have been an Irish motivation for the invasion of Wales during the Anarchy, especially if they felt they deserved it after the Irish War but did not receive it in negotiations.

As for the second two, I think Scotland would have been too established as its own state and have too many potential allies for an Irish invasion (both the Americans and to a lesser extent the French), and the Scots would likely have resisted an Irish invasion even more fiercely than an anarchistic province like Wales. I'm not sure who Edward is, but if you're referring to Edmond, he lost the French Civil War to Sebastien, and whoever the victor of that conflict, no French emperor would ever, ever sell part of metropolitan France to anyone, even an ally. In my opinion.

I do like the idea of the dream of annexing Wales being Ireland's motivation for invading England in the 1950's, however.

KingSweden 00:05, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I used your idea for a proposed Celtic Union Pan-Celtism. I liked the idea.

I don't think I have. Mister Sheen suggested (for irony's sake) making Rebecca Black a child piano or violin prodigy. I'm not much of a YouTuber anymore (though I did post some videos in high school) so I leave it to your discretion.

KingSweden 22:22, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Puissance Réelle
Hey RWG. I was wondering, if you would help me on my TL. In exchange, I'll help you on yours, if you need it? Enclavehunter 01:47, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate it, alot. : ) Enclavehunter 02:37, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
The game is starting now. Thanks for playing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Re: 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake
That's a good idea. Geological disasters would happen the same as OTL I figure. The Thai would be referred to as "Siamese" but other than that I like it. One possible suggestion for Oceania could be that the earthquake inadvertently shores up political support for Geoffrey Rush prior to the 2005 election, sort of how many natural or other disasters bring together people in a time of need (i.e. Japanese earthquake, 9/11, Katrina, so on)

KingSweden 00:44, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me.

KingSweden 22:43, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Because I'm ususally in a good mood. No smiley for serious issues though! ;D Imperium Guy 07:32, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Cold War in FTBW
Yes their will be an end. When? I'm still keeping that under wraps. It will be soon, I believe, but I do have it planned out but I do not want to give it out sooner that the time for it to happen. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 14:07, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tibet
I can't think of a better option, so I'll go with that. Thanks for the idea.

KingSweden 21:37, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

That's a good point. My thinking is that since Tibet is part of the Allied Powers in the Pacific War, it would have been a staging base for campaigns against China, and after the stalemate in 1929 the eventual Hilo Accords would have guaranteed Tibetan independence, and an American presence in Tibet after the war could have discouraged future Qing designs on the region. A Chinese invasion of northern and eastern Tibet could very well have been a byproduct of the war?

KingSweden 05:32, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Russia FTBW
I have given thought to this, and I have kinda developed something that I haven't fully explained yet. Starting in the 1980's, and reaching a peak in the early 2000's, the various groups inside Russia began clamoring for independence. The politicians in Russia knew they would have to hold these areas by force, so decided to offer them a version of "Home Rule" instead, similar to how the Dominion system worked in the British Empire in OTL. Basically, the various groups (Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Ukrainian, White Russian, etc., etc.) where allowed to form National Assemblies that would have control over the local affairs of the area that had been decided to represent them. However, the military, Foreign Affairs and internal trade would be a purview of the government in Moscow. The Federal government also modified the structure of the

In the years of the Dual Power Conflict, this would be for the best in order to insure that France could not gain a foot hold in these national minorities. They do have self-government to a degree, and this might lead to more independence in the future. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 13:50, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, the thing about it is that Gorbachev is not President when the negotiations with the other states happened: he's been out of office for a few years, having served a couple terms as Russian President already. And what I sorta detailed to you allows the minority nations to remain part of Russia, but at the same time have control in internal matters. It's not perfect, but its better than allowing the Ukrainians, the Baltic States and White Russia to break away and build their own nation states. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 03:58, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
Well, the first thing is your invasion of the Netherlands, and Belgium's invasion. The UK and the Netherlands are very, very friendly, and the UK would never invade the Netherlands, and neither would Belgium. So I'm going to have to roll back all those posts, I'm afraid. . . PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 00:30, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

NW Version of Althistory Wiki
Can't help but notice your posts.

I'm going to tell you right now: This is not allowed, by and large.

And, another attempt to do things like this, and you're gone.

Lordganon 05:03, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

That you cannot figure out for yourself why such things are wrong is a great deal of why you've been blocked twice. Do the math. Lordganon 07:18, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean the recent wiki activity feed, it's up in the right hand corner. Enclavehunter 02:39, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, I created an page, and just kept adding parts to it. If you want it, I suggest try it on Think Before You Act TL, or something related to it.Enclavehunter 02:58, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Alaskan War
Help from who, exactly? Mexico is not an ally that would be interested in helping the United States in any way. Siberia would never go to war in the 1880's with a fellow Russian survivor state. France would probably have sold arms to the United States even though it was officially neutral, but France also sold weapons to Alaska. On that same note, France was served no strategic interest in conquering Alaska, due in large part to the likely popularity of supporting Alaska amongst the large Russian population within the Empire.

KingSweden 00:51, January 31, 2012 (UTC)