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TSPTF Responsibilities
If you are receiving this message, you are a member of the TSPTF. In an effort to keep this wiki in tip-top shape, I have made a list of responsibilities on the TSPTF page that I hope you all volunteer to do (at least three of them). If we work together we can make this place into a quality wiki. Mitro 22:17, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Since you have long been a critiique of the current form of the article, and I don't have the time or resources to contribute regularly at the moment, I invite you to change it so that the government is exiled to the north and such. I want it to be kind of an East/West Berlin reunification type thing, thats my only guideline if you do fix up the article. Arstarpool 00:20, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Can you help me come up with names ectra for the states of the Rheinland Federation?Vegas adict 17:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

1983's Greece
Hello Oerwinde,
 * You'll probably notice when you see the recent changes that I'm trying to get a group of fellow-caretakers to help me in my task of expanding the Federation of Greece in 1983:Doomsday, no small task. I really liked your ideas for the postbellum Italian Peninsula and I'd like to ask you for help as well. Now any ideas you have are welcome, and I already have quite a bit of unwritten ideas for Greece (this site takes precedence below real life, Facebook.com, and AH.Com, so I never really did much year, at least not for great periods of time), and I'd like to coalesce any ideas you have and mine. Would be willing to help?

Mr.Xeight 05:42, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for all the ideas you've contributed so far, the idea for the future government and maps were brilliant! I like the idea of an elected king, I mean you don't see it very much except for in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. I do have a question, would you find it rude if I moved a few islands on the map to different states and added more Peloponnesian territory to Morea ("Morea" is the actual English word for the Peloponneso(s), "Moreos" is only a direct translation of the sounds from Greek-to-English. That's my random fact of the day ;D)? I don't want to offend you and afterall the maps were you doing, not mine, which is why I leave the decision to you. Mr.Xeight 18:04, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sundered Veil
Can I help with the Sundered Veil TL, I have several posible ideas including a posible British Civil War between a pro magic version of the Puritans and more moderate McGregorist's Vegas adict 18:21, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Map Games
Does anyone play the map games anymore? It just doesn't seem like I see any activity on those pages. Mitro 18:22, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * They've pretty much died down. A lot of people playing them used things they made in the games to start their own timelines and such. I got sick of them because they just got flooded with people who didn't care about plausibility.Oerwinde 07:53, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thus ends a strange chapter in the history of this wiki. Mitro 14:03, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The games appear to be making a comeback. Mitro 00:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oerwinde, is there anything needed when creating a map game because I would like to create a map game. What are the rules? Do I have to become a moderator?

Chicagoan 01:50, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

and what exactly is a map? How does it work.?Chicagoan 01:51, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Greece
Sure. I was going to do it anyways, lol. but what you've written sounds good to me.

I figured I'd work on some of those parts tonight as well. You'll see the Ionian Islands Republic up now.

Maybe we should divy these provinces up?

Lordganon 08:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that'd be best. While I could do a lot of that state, I also know little about that subject.

I'll work on the Ionian article.... How about I do the Rhodes, Delian, Hellas, and Thrace articles too? And you take the other ones?

Lordganon 08:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good.

Yeah, a few of these will be hard. I will help you, mind. Just as I hope you help me in the same way.

The article on Egypt should have what you need to make a base for the article, if it helps.

Lordganon 08:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I like the sound of that.

Lordganon 10:25, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The Despot/King of Morea (he might actually go with tyrant since in Ancient Greek all it meant was a monarch that seized power himself with no family ties to the throne) is Nikolaos Michaloliakos-he's the leader of a Greek neo-facist party OTL, or at least he was. Also, great job on all of the pages and flags; in fact the flags blew me away! I was also wondering if it would be possible to move the island of Euboea from control of the Hellenic Republic to the Delian League only because the backstory I wrote involved the first capital in the city of Chalki (Euboea's OTL capital) and because my family is from the city of Marmari and I always had the HR having somewhat sinister motivations (restablishing Greece under the Hellenic Republic, which really isn't that sinister), and plus it's a social democracy-the Delian League is not. Also, would you mind if the Republic of the Holy Mountain went with the flag of the Patriarch (yellow background, black double-headed eagle) for its current flag, and we save that awesome flag for the solidified monarchy? I'd also like to know if I could write an article on the neo-conservatism and monarchistic feelings going around in Greek youths, and I made a flag for the Egyptian state, although I need to add a crescent to it to represent the Arabs. Mr.Xeight 12:27, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I guess if you're editing the map, move the island of Kythira to Ionian control, please.

Go ahead and write that article. And please just go right ahead and add the religious stuff to the Holy Mountain article too.

Lordganon 15:00, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that does make sense, and as for having Lesbos and the surrounding islands split off, I suppose more Balkanization makes sense as the Delian League needs to be pretty small to be an adequate true-democracy. Oh, and cudos, my good sir for your flags; they truly blew me away and your flag of Aigyptos is by-far better than the one I made. Finally, I knew this was going to happen, but would you minds giving me partially part of my job back? Now by no means to want to be an arch-caretaker along with you and Ganon, but it's too hard for me to part from DD; perhaps I could just be a regular caretaker? I was also wondering if I could change the name of "Agion Oros" to "The Republic of the Holy Mountain"; Agion Oros is just transliterating the phrase "Holy Mountain" into Latin letters. Mr.Xeight 00:36, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind too much, but I adjusted the maps you made slightly around Albania and Thrace. Thrace matches the Turkey maps better now, and I added the one strip because it makes sense, for securing the straits.

Lordganon 23:51, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Holy Mountain
Would you mind if I edited the sub-article on "The Holy Mountain" for the Federation of Greece? Arstarpool 04:36, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Turkey
So, why do you think the Sultanate of Turkey (1983: Doomsday) is too large? Caeruleus 01:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Former Yugoslavia
Hey Oerwinde, a new idea just came to me, what if the former states of Yugoslavia had kinda a cooperation group, name is pending but I wanna know what you think? Ownerzmcown 21:13, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think Vlad would be the one to talk to about that. He's done the Croatia, Bosnia, and Slovenia articles I believe.Oerwinde 21:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Oer. A while back somebody proposed the German Commonwealth, which is supposed to be some sort of loose confederation making up North Germany, Prussia, and German SW Africa and others possibly. I was wondering if maybe you wanted to form the Commonwealth some time in the immediate future, thats all for now : ) Arstarpool 22:57, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

That might be a possibility, but probably not until after a)Prussia`s king concludes his diplomatic tour, and B)contact is made with more German states.Oerwinde 07:47, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Arstarpool
This user has constable rights but has acted in a number of ways since early summer that not only appear to serve his own purposes but make him difficult to work with at best. Very recently he has created a number of gateway articles for 1983:DD that should be open for all editors to use, but writes them as if he is setting editorial policy for the entire timeline. One example is Alabama, in which he huffs that "Brian and South(Writer) took it over pretty much on their own initiative...so I renounce having anything to do with it" The latest example is having the Celtic Alliance condemn a British survivor nation for heinous crimes, and writing an item on the wcrb news page...then pulling the item, and the section of the main talk page discussing the matter after leaving a message saying it was a joke. I am tired of this activity. This is extremely unprofessional and, if it remains unchecked, could cause significant problems later on, including good, quality editors leaving who don't want to deal with the nonsense. --BrianD 03:52, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

King Andrew
I've had an idea. Since Prince Andrew wasn't married in 1983, and because of various goings on, still hasn't got married, I though there was a possibility that while on his tour of Victoria he falls in love with the Victoria secretary that travels with him and tells him about the delicate politics of the area. After all, he is used to the fairly robust and violent South African political world. Any way, he falls in love and the two eventually get married and he spends the rest of his life as the King of Victoria in Victoria. What do you think? Bob 12:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Flag of Anglo-Dutch Union
Could you please make a flag for the Anglo-Dutch union in the Dutch Superpower timeline, at the moment i'm using this flag but i was wondering if you could come up with something betterVegas adict 20:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Owen
If you are receiving this message you are a member of the TSPTF. Owen, which is already causing ruckus, wants to be part of the TSPTF again ! He claimed that he did not vote for Smoggy so he could gain respect but then wrote on Louis' page what I am about to write below: "since I successfully nominated Smoggy, can I join the TSPTF now?" - Owen1983 He doesn't get it, this guy. I suggest you respond to him. He does not get how we function, he does not understand how to write alternate history, hell, he barely knows how to write English, and he is a grade-A spammer. Some people are already complaining again and hes only been back for about a week or so.

Please respond, Arstarpool

Two Orthodoxies Follow-Up
Hey, Oer.
 * To be honest Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy relations isn't my strong-suit. If you were to ask my the differences between Orthodox Christianity and West-Roman catholicism, that'd be easy; Oriental and Eastern Orthodoxy, not so much. However, I do know bits and pieces about the differences, I think. I believe the split (Council of Chalcedon) arose over problems in translations-something like the Greek word for duall-nature didn't translate well into other languages and translators used the wrong word. I heard on a bus in Greece from a Greek-Orthodox American priest that it wasn't until 1892 when translators realized the big misunderstanding (I was like three rows behind him, I hope I heard that right). So it appears the differences are just misunderstanding has had the churches love independence for too long, unfortunately. Now with Doomsday and all I think the two churches persecuted by the Sunni-Muslims would need each other to survive. However, which Patriarch would step down? Perhaps the unified-Patriarch of Alexandria could have two Patriarchs, a Greek and a Copt? That seems a little, shall we say, odd-it might not fly. I'll look into the real differences, but there's one major thing standing in the way-the one "flaw" of Eastern Christianity in this case (and it's really not a flaw)-all bishops need to approve the unification, just one bishop could prevent it. Again, Doomsday might change all of this, and both my faith and the faith of the Coptic people might see they need each other. As much as this is so terrible to say, perhaps one bishop might need to pass on between now and Doomsday and the surviving bishops elect someone from the other Alexandrian Church. Nicholas VI was Patriarch from 1968-1986, Partenius from '87-'96, Peter VII from '97-'04, and Theodore from '04-now. Perhaps 2004 might be the best time to do it, after the passing of Peter VII?

EDIT: Peter, along with other bishops, died in a plane crash in the Aegean Sea-I just realized that after perusing Wikipedia (I was only like 10 at the time-too young to remember). I don't know how to estimate how long someone'll live, should we just have the plane crash happen? Mr.Xeight 03:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I was thinking that we could transfer the dioceses of Crete, Gavthos/Gavdos, Kassos, and Karpathos (the southernmost islands of Greece) to the jurisdiction of the Patriarch of Alexandria to both boost their congregations as well as bring more Greeks into the Patriarch to even out the Greek/Copt/Arab flock. How such a major move my happen is beyond me at this point, but Doomsday would seem to change a lot of things. Mr.Xeight 03:43, September 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well Kemet is the most populous state in the Greek Federation, so it wouldn't really need a congregation boost.Oerwinde 08:15, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Norfolk County
Hello, Oer. Zack is being, well, Zack and is stating that Norfolk County is part of London, ON when in fact the North Pennsylvania article was created first and Norfolk has been in the article since the first drafts of the article. So I am asking you, while London doesn't have a map, and is not fully filled in, in your mind is Norfolk County part of London like Zack wants, or do you acknowledge that it is part of North Penn and always has been? Arstarpool 01:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * It doesn't make much sense that its part of N. Penn., and originally I had envisioned it as part of London since its closer to London than it is to N.Penn., but it was part of the N.Penn article first.Oerwinde 01:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

May have come first Oer, but London is canon and North Penn is not, so w/e you say would be the case.

Lordganon 01:24, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

That was the case with California and Sierra Nevada, where Cali was canon but Sierra wasn't and Sierra still won. Arstarpool 01:35, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

That was a special case, and you know it.

Made sense for Nevada to have that territory - makes little sense for Penn to have this area when London is right there, and the only real port in your area was nuked.

Lordganon 01:45, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

That really wasn't a special case but this is going to turn into a case before we know it.

I am asking Oer, no offense Ganon.

So what are we doing then Oer? Arstarpool 01:56, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Benghazi Spelling
Oh, sorry, Mr. Davies, I should have explained that one. I transferred the word "Eusperides" into the phonetic-Romanisation of Greek instead of the old one that Wikipedia and most people used which is quite, shall we say, "odd"-every letter in Greek that looks like a Latin one is "paired" up with the Latin in romanization. For instance, the the Greek "u" and Latin "u" have completely different sounds, yet in the Greek Romanisation they're paired up to each other, making the Romanised word sound completely different from the original Greek one. Other sounds just are completely different-the Greek letter "Hi" (looks like our "X") is turned into a "ch" by the Romanisation but the Greek "X" makes an "h" sound and thus the word is completely different. Thus the Romanisation is a huge pet peeve of mine and I'd like to show the group of AltHist.Wiki that the Romanisation everyone uses when they say "Zeus" or "Chios" is completely wrong. Mr.Xeight 21:42, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

other
If I publish a wikia article that has the same name as a previous article that was deleted but an entirely different timeline, is that against the rules? (AxisMan 10:28, September 26, 2010 (UTC))

Swebia-Wurttemberg
I f there is no isues with it can you remove the review templateOwen1983 12:45, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

going (OW)
I have checked the spelling on Provincial United Kingdom (1983: Doomsday) but could you double check it an correct any errors cya. --Owen1983 19:08, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Egypt
just to let you know i'm helping with the Egypt page and am going to abandon everything downstream of Cairo on the Nile as well as everything to the east of the river to the Red Sea as well as about 20 miles west of the river as well. I don't know if you want to expand Kemet into that area?--Smoggy80 17:59, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Why would they abandon everything east of the Nile? Downstream of Cairo is already canon so thats fine, but why give up on any red sea ports?Oerwinde 22:06, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

the main port on the Red Sea is Suez and it is under LON control so thats already been lost to Egypt. There aren't many ports south of there till you get to Bir Thamadah so i was going to make that the most northerly Egyptian port on the Red Sea, I may have been a bit vauge with my desciption, I didn't mean the entire length of the Nile (as in the full Red Sea coastline) only towns at the same Latitude at Cairo northwards, of which there are very few and most of them are small--Smoggy80 15:53, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

WWIII 1962:Map Game
Oer, could I ask a favor of you? This one player (AltMino) continues to write extremely implausible happenings in this game, such as the CCCP regaining control over the entirety of western Russia not a year after a nuclear war, the Soviets annexing the entire Eastern Bloc and invading and capturing Germany, and then bringing in all nations of Africa and South America on his side to regain control of a revolting Germany. Vene, the creator of the game, has not been on in a while and nobody has replied to my comments on the talk page regarding this. I don't want to assume control of the game from Vene, but, if you are still admin for the Map Games since your recent promotion, could you take a look at this and talk to this guy?

Thank you!

BoredMatt 23:19, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Waterloo
I see you've made a page called the Waterloo Cooperative. Are you going to change the names on all the pages which mention Kitchener to Waterloo? Because I've used the name Kitchener in like 5 of my pages already <:-( Arstar 08:57, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

I was planning on it. Already changed it on London.Oerwinde 08:59, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Funnier History (Map Game)
Hey I'm quite new and I've made my own map game, how can I get more people to use it and could you please give me some constructive criticism of my page Funnier History (Map Game)- Qrfbsca 18:28, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ethiopia flag in New Union
I was wondering if you could come up with a flag for Ethiopia (New Union)? Vegas adict 20:03, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

WAU in Bioko?
Hi Oerwinde. I've started a story for the island of Bioko, and it involves WAU forces driving out the Equatorial Guinean government and not succeeding very well with the new regime they create for it. Part of the idea is that it shows that the WAU has some weaknesses, but also to show an example of its growing muscle. Please take a look if you can. Benkarnell 03:48, October 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. The WAU probably has a fairly noticeable "get out of Bioko" movement, but from the government's point of view it's probably just too valuable to leave in anarchy - or to the South Americans. Benkarnell 13:27, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Cascadia Adoption
I was wondering if I could adopt this article. I have some family out there (whom I visit every summer and Christmas), and consider myself fairly experienced with the area.

Thanks,

BoredMatt 20:01, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

ADC for post-Soviet/Warsaw states
Hey Oer. I'm making a post-Warsaw Pact league for the post-Soviet and Post-Warsaw nations that intend to keep the Siberians out of East Europe, and I was wondering if I could use Berlin as the headquarters, and namesake for the tentative "Berlin Pact". Also I'd like to know if West and East Poland would also be interested in joining. Thanks. Arstar 05:17, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

West Poland is a Siberian ally, so they're out. And one of the new King's foreign policy goals is to normalize relations with West Poland, so I'm not sure they'd be up for it. If its more about keeping communism from spreading further in eastern Europe rather than being opening anti-Siberian then maybe. East Poland isn't mine but they would likely want to join either way.Oerwinde 06:58, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Greek Monarchy
I left a note on the Greece talk page a while ago that I'd like you to have a look at about this.

Lordganon 07:21, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Map Game Question
oerwinde, http://images.wikia.com/common/__cb31499/skins/common/images/button_media.png How many people are needed for a map game to start

Chicagoan 23:13, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sicily War
I've completed a "script" for the war. Do you have an e-mail address I could send it to for you to look over? (Note: Arstar and Xeight have already approved it, as it is now)

Lordganon 06:19, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

kevin@energonreactor.com Oerwinde 08:49, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Good to hear, and thanks for the reply so fast, lol.

I figured with that one that the IPA would take the lead, but Corsica would be involved somehow because of a combination of ADC membership and closeness. I'll make an adjustment for that to be obvious.

Independence or going to an IPA member after a period of time it is then. Simple enough, and no issues with Xeight or Arstar would come from it.

I'll post it in the next couple hours with the revision above, as well as a slight one in Italy Arstar wanted (how to divide it up, etc).

Lordganon 08:17, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Good afternoon, Mr. Davies! We haven't in awhile, how've you been? Minus the arguments I've been in for the last week, things have really been interesting, especially in the dialogues between Mr. Ganon and I. And I'd like to ask you and Mr.Ganon to call me by my first name. Obviously "Constantine" might get a little tedious to spell out the whole, especially when my username is "X8", so Kosta is quite fine, as is Dean, which is the Anglicized shortened versions. And Merry Christmas to you, Mr. Davies! Mr.Xeight 22:07, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a decent typist so Constantine isn't too tedious, and honestly is a much cooler name than Dean. :POerwinde 22:13, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oerwinde how many players are needed to start a map game?

Chicagoan 22:51, December 23, 2010 (UTC)