User talk:Azecreth

Your Two Timelines
You can have us delete the first, or make the first into what you've re-imagined it. Louisiannan 22:44, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Mitro 14:51, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Template
Did you purposely use the template paste so that others would find it hard to edit your page? If not, you could make the changes more easily my replacing the pasted template code with simply one line, in code ("source"). That line is:

The word "NationInfo" surrounded by double brackets on either side.

If I typed that here, it would show a nation info box with your user name and place keeper boxes for your flag and Coat of arms!

When the editor is called on, the rich text version will show an icon that looks like a puzzle piece. A click on the icon brings up a template that you can edit. Conversely, you can begin your page using code (source) with this line

{NationInfo

And from there adding changes, each preceded with a "|" (CAP+"\"). When finished, close with a "}". This will show up in the "source" version if you have first created the info box using the icon in rich text. Once you've created the initial box, though, you need only make changed in source mode (which is actually quite easy). I created an editable version of NationInfo if you are interested. I'll send it to you if you like, or just replace the existing box. The only thing I haven't figured out is how the default "Location of Nation" world map pops up.

When I tried to edit your page with this suggested simpler version, you had just added the flag, thus barring my edit. I subsequently lost the text of my revision. However, if you follow the instructions, I feel sure it will work a lot better for you.

CYOAHabove
Hey, I was just wondering if you would like to be one of the "controllers" for CYOAH, as you have done really good ideas, and I've already seen you changing things to make it follow the rules. I would really appreciate it, as it is becoming much bigger than I ever expected it would have been when I first started.

Let me know! Tbguy1992 17:20, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, only CYOAH. I'm not an actual admin or anything, so it isn't like something major. When I get the chance, I'm going to create a special "badge" or something for anybody who is a controller, just so you know.

Also, in a few weeks or something, I'll let you create the next POD that can be used as an CYOAH, but only after the first one dies down; this I hope will keep people interested in the idea! Tbguy1992 23:22, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I have created a badge for you, to thank you for accepting the post of Controller for CYOAH. It isn't great, but it's my way of thanking you! Tbguy1992 03:38, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

1430
Hey, I'm Ownerzmcown and I'd like to ask you, a player of the Map Games to go to the Europe 1430 Map Game talk page and vote against allowing the British Group to invade the Germanic Pact near the bottom of the screen, the idea is borderline implausibility and needs to be rolledback! Ownerzmcown 11:59, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

New POD for CYOAH
Hey, I think you can go ahead and create a new POD on the main page, give people something new to work on, and get their creative juices flowing. I don't care which POD you choose, but I will support it, whatever it is.

Tbguy1992 18:01, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, how about Prussia allies with France instead of the Third Coalition? Its just a suggestion, mind you. And I only know this because of my main project French Trafalgar, British Waterloo. Tbguy1992 01:34, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Napoleonic Wars Map Game
It's started.

Thanks for the welcome back, Aze!
Oh man, school has been a killer; I can hardly find time to visit the computer anymore, let alone work on CYOAH! Eventually, I'll make time, and we will gather the hearts and minds of the people, as we reglorify CYOAH!

To Victory!

Jazon Naparleon 02:47, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Last Chance for Peace
Well, you caught me at a good time: I was just finishing some homework when I noticed you left a message. Of course, I will look at it.

Anyway, from what I have read, it is pretty good, but, to be honest, I would highly doubt Kaiser Wilhelm II would not go to war in 1914, as he knew that German military power would be eclipsed within three years by Russian and French Military reforms. And, since Germany and A-H had backed down from other crisis before, they believed they could not do it again without giving up their right to be "Great Powers", at least in their eyes. But, on a Alternate History Wikia Realness Scale (© Tbguy1992, 2010, all rights reserved), from 1 -10, with 1 be "This is Alternate History? As if!" and 10 being "OMG! Why DIDN'T this happen?", I would give it a 5. But, that is better than over 85% of the other AltHists on the site, so I say good job! Keep up the good work!

Tbguy1992 19:09, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, I will be glad to continue looking at your TL, Just let me know when you want me to, and I will. Tbguy1992 12:30, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

A message of great importance
My dear friend Aze, I must skip the formalities; we have a war about to erupt all around us; I have begun a rebellion against Wikia, and I ask you to aid me against the bloody gits who have instated the new skin, thereby letting in a flood of. . . of. . . fools! Idiots who don't know if the sun is shining who make terrible TL's and even worse edits to once great TL's! Let me sum it up for you in what I left in the talk page of one of the newer ones known as 'September 11th 2001 was MUCH worse'

I.. .I. ..

Who would do this? Who would make an Althistory like this? Worsening what was already the worst tragedy in American history? Curse my vivid imagination; I can see myself there, amongst the dead and the dying. ..

'Tis truly a horrifying sight.

For a time, I have been silent.

But I can hold my feelings no longer! It may just be the new skin, or it may be a sudden influx of stupid people, but the way I see our AH wiki. . .OUR wiki, which belonged to the people, has been sucked up, into some sort alien spaceship, never to be seen again! And now we have THIS, this monstrosity! Sic Semper Tyrannis! I knew we couldn't trust them! For too long we ate out of their hands, lulled into a false sense of security! And now they rip the rug out from under us! We have given them Leeway, and we have put up with the many things gone wrong since the new skin was instated, but I say neigh!

I say we give those rabscallions one week to meet our demands, or we will move off, off to the AWA!

Who is with me? A call to arms I say! Who shall join me in this rebellion? In this taking up arms against our oppressors! Agains all the evil of all the lands! *takes in big breath, begins shouting* WE SHALL STORM INTO THE HALLS OF WIKIA, AND DEEMAND OUR FREEDOM! WE WILL NO LONGER EAT CAKE, BUT REJOICE WITH PIE! WE SHALL SHOW THEM WHAT FOR! WE! SHALL! BE! FREE!

Some of you may be against me, some of you will be saying

"Jazon! This is too far, too much! We cannot abandon Wikia after they have broken our legs" And I would say

"Go on! Stay here and fight with your loyalist brothers! I am not here to stop you! I am here to free the others!" Some will say

"Jazon, a week is too short a time, surely we can be more patient!" And I would say

"Go and join your loyalist friends! If you are not with me, you are against me! One week I say, and not a second more!"

Even if I have to do it myself, if I have to I will have a navy of rowboats! An army of bicycles! An air force of one hot air balloon being pulled by a pestered Pachyderm!

So I say again! Those devils in Wikia will not stand a week from now! Who will join my cause? Or must I go Benidect Arnold upon them?

That is all.

So Aze, will you answer my call to arms? Will you help me in not just my hour of need, but that of the wiki as a whole? Will you help bring about a swift end to this conflict?

Get back to me as soon as you can.

Jazon Naparleon 04:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well Aze, the war is over. We didn't exactly kill all the wikia staff and take over the network for ourselves (Not like we actually tried that. . .) I did, however, manage to make my own Alternate History wiki, that perhaps you'd like to visit sometime. Either way, your comment about Arstar made me lol.

Goodbye,my friend, I may see you on here from time to time, but for now, this is the end of the road for me.

Vixi Perpetuo

Jazon Naparleon 15:46, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Last Chance for Peace
Well, I think it is well though out at the moment. Without a major war until the 1920's, most of the tactics and strategies will still be the same, and you are right to go conservative. However, a major thing to remember, and always keep in mind when you are doing a TL about WWI, is that the defensive has the upper hand over the offensive. Unless their is something, like numbers, morale or artillery, in favor of the attacker, the outcome will almost always go to the defender. However, the mindest was in favor of the offensive, so their will be many more battles than what you have at the moment, even if they don't change the battle lines very much. WWI is a war of battles over "valuable" positions, and the ever elusive pursuit of the breakthrough where ever it can be found, so tiny hamlets will be the center of battles that dwarf the imaginations: Ypres, Passchendaele, Loos, and Cambrai being examples.

Also, I highly recommend, to further develop the TL, to take a map of the region (say the western front) with all the towns and major landmarks, and simply use a pencil to draw lines of attack and defense, and allow you to name the battles, which will give it a higher sense of reality. Just remember that this is not, repeat not World War Two, where armies march 50 miles a day and take over vast swaths of land: this is over muddy, boggy, artillery and barbed wire strewn battlefields, and the results of some battles can only be measured in meters.

Just keep these things in mind, and it should come out well. Tbguy1992 00:00, November 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * As for Lenin, he will still be in exile in Switzerland, but he was very sick in the 1920's, so I highly doubt he will be the one who will lead a revolution if their is one. With Russia being stronger, and without Lenin to guide the Bolshevik's, I'm guessing Trotsky and Stalin will fight for power in the Party, and he Czar's secret police won't do much, as a divided Communist party isn't as dangerous as one lead by one man, so if they let them fight amongst themselves, and only step in once a winner is found, be it either Stalin or Trotsky. Maybe an abortive revolution will be tried, but would most likely fail due to the strength of ATL Russian Empire.

And I know exactly what you mean with the war thing. I'm not a violent person, and even with fictional, alternative people I have difficulty in "killing" them off to make a story. Not that I won't do it, it's just one of those nagging thoughts I have in the back of my mind.... Tbguy1992 20:14, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

CYOAH future
Currently, I don't think we need another controller for CYOAH, mostly because it has become inactive, and I have no time at the moment to add on to it, nor have any ideas of how to do so at the moment. I was considering asking Jaz if on his new website, to help link it between the two, (as parts on here, parts on his) but that would easily become a logistical and maybe even a creative nightmare, so that idea disappeared about as quickly as I had it.

I'm thinking that, unless activity picks up, just us two will do fine. However, if we do get a bunch new articles in a few weeks or months, then we should look into seeing about someone else. Do you happen to have any ideas of who would want to help if we asked? Tbguy1992 04:40, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

My Hopefully Helpful advice
Well, the first question is, did the US enter the war? If they did, how was it handled? If it was handled well, or even decently, then the president will be re-elected, or the member from his party. If it didn't go so well, with thousands needlessly being killed, big scandal, etc. etc., then the other party will most likely win. That is the rule of US presidential elections.

And I'd leave the Lenin thing up to you. Remember, it just has to fit in with the story and that it makes sense later, alright? Tbguy1992 15:42, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

League of Nations
Wow that sounds like an amazing idea. It reminds me of this history play I read about in the news. While most of the play involved OTL topics, one scene involved a speech by John Wilkes Booth, who was captured and put on trial for the assasination of Lincoln.

Well there are a few issues involved in the 1983DD universe that keep the LoN delegates up at night:
 * The growing rivalry between the and the . Though technically allies, the SAC is pulling ahead of the ANZC.
 * The growing threat of, especially as they reclaim territory in Europe. The non-Communist survivor states of European Russia are also involved in that.
 * The rise in American nationalism is probably an issue in the halls of the LoN. There are some states that blame America for Doomsday, like, so not everyone would like the idea of a reunified America.
 * People are still probably dealing with the aftermath of the and there is also the continuing issue with  and their ambitions.

That is all I can think of at the moment. I highly reccomend bringing this up at Talk:1983: Doomsday, I'm sure the community would love to help. Mitro 15:35, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Massive Impact 2
The Massive Impact 2 (Map Game) is starting. Have a great map game! PitaKang 20:47, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Democracy's Last Legs
Holy crap! I just finished reading this "AAR" and I was blown away. This Firestorm character did a great job describing the in-game events, making it seem like a credible AH. Do you know of any other good AARs to read?

I actually played Hearts of Iron I, but never bought the sequels since I became more interested in the Total War games. Mitro 03:11, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Revival
Would you like to revive the original Massive Impact (Map Game)? I really want to finish that game. PitaKang 01:33, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Azecreth, could you help my on my TL A Different History? It’s a community project (with 10 people on it!), and my hope is that it will turn into a sort of smaller version of 1983:DD, with a bunch of people contributing to it! Thanks! PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:47, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
Would you be at all interested in a Constable position? Lordganon 15:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Nomination is now up. Lordganon 06:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Constable in the TSPTF. This allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a constable, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.

When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here. Since you are only a constable and do not have the power to delete or block, do not feel obligated to sign up for any duties you do not have the powers to do. Please inform myself or others in a position to do so if you see a problem that involves a needs for either of those things.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon 08:35, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm terribly sorry to bother but would it be alright if I helped out in the CYOAH? I love alternate history and it would be a great honor if you let me assist even though I have only joined just today.

Yeah you're right I'll restart it now. I'll start the game when it's got 3-4 players. You're free to join. Remedello

Axis vs Allies
Hi, Azecreth. As you may know, the original AvA is sadly defunct. The end had dissolved into a quagmire of space race, sports, inventions. In short, it was a hell of a mess. However, I have created a new AvA, the Axis vs Allies Revised. I am not going to allow what happened to the original map game happen here. As of such, I invite you to be part of my map game. I will also allow you to be a mod, since I have played many games with you.. Once again, I invite you to the new, improved, and revised version of Axis vs Allies. Sincerely, PitaKang-

Axis vs AlliesRevised

 * United Kingdom: The British declare war on the Soviet Union and Poland, and 200,000 thousand troops are sent to help Finland while the British Navy begins attacking ALL Soviet ships and much of its coastline cities. The UK response to the Soiets is that yes you were on the defensive, but how many other nations were on the defensive that you conquered, it is time to teach you communist scum what you deserve. Britain withfraws all penalties from Germany due to the Treaty of Versailes and other treaies thereafter, Germany is given the green light to fully mobilize its entire armed forces and navy to attack Poland asnd the USSR, of which all of European Poland and Russia will be ceded to it, the Baltic States, and Finland. The British Army invades the Soviet Union through Persia, and the army, numbering 200,000 men, begins to destroy the Soviet countryside and cities, hoping that Germany will launch an attack soon though Poland, draining more Soviet-Polish troops to another front.
 * Read it, and by the way, this doesnt refer to you as a person, its just torwards your nation you control.
 * DeanSims 16:06, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I didnt promise Finland to Germany, I promised Germany that your European territory would be split between the Baltic States,Germany, and Finland, and you are right about the Planes, sorry bout that part. And Germany, in the Treaty of Versiales, cant have more than 100,000 troops legaly, so that is why I gave them the green light.

Here is the tank: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I

Yeah I guess, do you have any opinions of the most powerful tank that could appear in the games current year?

The London Project is like the US Manhattan Project of OTL, you know, the nuke, it has just begun, it will need at least 8 years to get it though.

DeanSims 19:22, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Did you just erase parts of the game?

DeanSims 19:48, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Im not mad, just curious, hopefully te Baltic States can wait until WW2 next time

DeanSims 19:53, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

We will help the West Cubans then, Britain doesnt want Cuba as a colony, it wuld cause to much friction with other nations.

DeanSims

I agree with the proposed retcontion and errasing of Japan's invasion of Cuba. You are right, Japan did not have the range to do that in the 1930's.Oxfordshire 1972 03:04, August 30, 2011 (UTC)#

Planning
I prefered to be nuetral, but ended up being conscripted in to the EP by the UK and The Baltics saying I had in 1938. I don't want to see the embacy in London burn down as well. I agree to a set of indipendent User Laptopless Communist states. I have tryed to Keep the Poles bribed with oil so they would not atach Ruthinia-Capertho-Ukraine, Romania and Yugoslavia. I have a trick up my sleave. V.O.I.S. agents are after a leading German offical- see 1940.6 when it hapens (don't let on, not even my friends in the USA must know this). I hope to Join America's All American Alliance soon and leave the EP. Poland will still be my allie after that. Oxfordshire 1972 16:05, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Baltic states and User Laptop
I am defending the nations, not the '''user Laptop. '''A indipendent set of Communist states would be OK. I did not know he would go mad at the first wiff of oil, Poland didn't. Give Laptop the boot and kick him off the game.Oxfordshire 1972 15:53, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Failed Revolution (Map Game)
Please vist my new game if you get a chance,

thanks,

DeanSims 19:54, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Good point, who could take control to make them pro-german, cuz I have no idea.

DeanSims 15:40, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Whats a recton proposal

DeanSims 16:47, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Alliance:

I will accept your alliance if you agree to the Warsaw treaty.

Axis and Allies
Would you be interested in a military alliance between Italy, Russia, China and Thailand??Scandinator 07:01, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

About question
Not at all, I highly doubt that they would attempt to over-throw the Emperor. The Emperor is, more or less, a 'tradition' sort of speak, and not just being either a living god or having functions as head of state. It is what symbolises Japan and has done since 660BCE.

Having said that, I don't think the ministers would ever try and gather Japanese nationals and over-throw the government. Even in and around 2nd World War, and as he was basically a very powerful person. Even if the ministers would have the nerve to do that, they could not have done it because if they did, it would also end up getting rid of a 'tradition' (sort of speak, don't know how else to explain it). Is a "Republic [or some other name here] of Japan possible? Yes. But with no emperor, there is basically some loss of 'tradition' and I doubt that a President/Prime Minister could be able to symbolise Japan as the Emperor can.

Its a complicated question, so Im sorry If I couldnt explain efficiently. 9 もりや すわこ 14:19, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

User talk: Repeater1919
He previously being Norway, now he withdrawed.58.187.27.191 03:56, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

That was me.Laptop Zombie 04:03, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

I know that
Its that colours to symbolize their (former, is it?) alliance with Soviet Union. Is that all right? Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 19:31, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh well, lets just say they chose the flag. I'll ask LxCaucassus about it. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 20:06, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

A Soviet Axis
Yeah, could you help me fix those? PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 23:05, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

No need to attack me man, I'd have been happy to join the invasion of Finland on your side, and 200 thousand would not be enough to beat me, I have over a million troops to call upon. Let's just go back to being allies. Leninist 16:32, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies
Thank you for accepting the non-agression pact, the UK secretly offers the Soviets a deal: All of the Soviet conquests and future conquests in Europe will be recognized as long as France and Germany are left unharmed (as well as the UK and Ireland). Italy will be yours as will much of the Balkans while a New Ottoman Empire will be set up as a Socialist-Democratic Monarchy. In return all I ask is that you allow Hindustan and the UK free reign in Asia and Africa. You have my word that your territory will never be attacked unless we are attacked first, no offense ment by that, I am just staing the terms, what do you think?

DeanSims 18:39, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Please Reply

DeanSims 18:45, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Here is a rouph map of the world after we conquer China, Vietnam is brown and owuld become independant for some reason while light red is your puppet states.



I know we are not allies

I know, I am just saying. B y the way, do you dislike the Americans?

Someday, would you, Hindustan, and the United Kingdom as well as Cuba take out America? Alaska is yours and I would like the 13 original colonies and the territory they took after the Revolution as well as the states of Louisiana, California, and Texas. Cuba would gain New Mexico and Arizona while I would give you the Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Hawaii, Britsh Colombia, and the a few other states. Hindustan would probably be given my Austrlain colonies and New Zealand. Please Reply, and if you accept, we can nuke the crap out of the USA and save all of our soldiers, cuz I have the Nuclear Bomb, thats not a threat, so dont take it that way please.

Wanna buy some nukes?

Don't surrender to the Finnish! They've bombarded cities in their own ethnic brothers' territory (Karelia), showing they don't care for anybody's good but are instead attacking you out of capitalist greed and delight at destruction. The Italian government will come to your aid immediatly. Do remember we also have a nuclear arsenal of our own (albeit it's small), before you consider surrendering. Fed (talk) 00:18, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Carribean Union (AVAR)
Hey, as you may know, Cuba, one of your closest allies, is being attacked by the warmongering USA. The Americans have resorted to nuclear warfare and we're practically defenseless. We need at least one nuclear bomb to defend ourselves and even out the odds, or a distraction. If you do, we will authorize your use of Cuban soil to place nuclear bombs to launch at America in case they invade you. We will also send support to you against Finland if we get the chance. CrimsonAssassin 15:07, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr Russia
I tryed to save it by creating serviver states like the Dinipr-Don SSR and Arckangel SSR, but some of thes have been attacked after surrendering.Oxfordshire 1972

United Nations AvAr
You are part of the Permanent Security Council of the United Nations. Please confirm on the talk page. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:41, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Mexico AvA(r).
Split it temporally, hold elections and reunite it as an independent state in 1947 - 1948 and stop the war.

This is how it ended up and the nation would be devided in to it's current occupation zones, which would hold elections and unite in 1947-1948. I had (read some of my AvA(r) posts) already planned elections in my zone for 1947.6.
 * Campeche Province Protectorate (indipendence set for 1947.6).
 * Quintana Roo Province protectorate (indipendence set for 1947).

Oxfordshire 1972 16:09, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

VOIA plot.
Good news, as you anexed Germany, my agents liquidated Martin Bormann http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bormann Oxfordshire 1972 15:46, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hungary
The Nazis were removed by Venezuela and Yugoslavia. :-)Oxfordshire 1972

AvA
If you surrender now, China will do everything possible to help you keep most of your pre war holdings. You will only lose Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russian Manchuria, Tannu Tuva, Turkmenistan, Moldova, Taljikistan and Salikin Scandinator

I tryed to salvage some of the USSR with surenders and breakaway states, but thes were attacked, even pro- western Kirov-Komi was attacked. PitaKang-rolled it backOxfordshire 1972 01:22, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

There is a rollback vote you may want to see. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:09, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

The Soviet War has been rolled back. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:27, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back! Venezuela is arsking Cuba for a planned anti-British Carabian operation next year. I will help against the Nazis to.Oxfordshire 1972 14:06, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm planning to gain cuban support for an carabean attack today on Wensday or thursday tomorrow at the latest.Oxfordshire 1972 14:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC).

I've layed in to British Gayana, Trinidad and Belize. The UK faces a stand off as I mess them about in Trinidad and Belize. Help would be apreciated. A Surinam SSR is a good Idea Oxfordshire 1972 01:15, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

That's true, except they wouldn't launch the first strike. They play by the UN's rules. I don't. Also, I've got a HUGE net of defense around my major cities and bombers that won't hesitate to destroy any sort of invasion force. CrimsonAssassin 01:31, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Venezuela begs cuba not to attack the continental USA or use nucliar arms first!Oxfordshire 1972

Roleback
Deleate the posts concerning the nucliar war but keep ones like Venezuela's Hungarian raid, the Yugoslavs in the Bahamas, Thai F-1 team, Japan in Russia after 1950Oxfordshire 1972 14:54, September 29, 2011 (UTC)