User talk:Riction

Don't forget to categorise your Vegetarian World pages. --Sikulu 13:06, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I must say, I like the way your timeline is going. Perhaps a few more maps would be usefull to illustrate your timeline more (me like maps, mmm). --Sikulu 09:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks! I'm glad you like it!  I have also noticed that you're updating a lot of stuff, too, and I like what I've seen so far.  I'll try to add some more maps!  (I like them, too.) --Riction 11:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Glad you like them. --Sikulu 12:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * You should check out my pages again. Most have maps, I wrote about the "", and there are tons of photos of ! --Riction 10:00, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've recategorised several of your Vegetarian World pages (the main category page was getting rather cluttered). I hope you don't mind (some of those images had red links to categories, so I assumed that you were going to recategorise them in the future). Anyway, I like the photos. --Sikulu 10:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, if you really want... as Sikulu said, it clutters the category pretty badly. There are also other possibilities to keep check of your pages, like the watching list.--Max Sinister 14:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll get my pages to the main category page and then think about how I can streamline it while keeping it easy to get to a page at a glance. One thing, like with the Netherlands, you changed it from being in the "European countries" category to the "Netherlands" category.  Should I not add any more pages to the "European countries" category and instead put them into the particular country category?  And what of countries that don't exist in other timelines? --Riction 00:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * IMO you should use "European countries" only if there's no OTL equivalent.--Max Sinister 08:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Reply to your message
Hello again. Firstly, to answer your questions:
 * The banner saying that you have ... message(s) on your talk page only applies when someone posts on your talk page. "Watching" a page simply makes the name of that page bold when you view it on "Recent Changes", or it shows up on your watchlist.
 * Secondly, you don't have to "watch" each page. Just look them up occasionally, just to check, or check on the "Recent Changes" page.
 * Finally, there is no real "best" way to communicate on a wiki. If you want to comment on what a particular page states, post on to that page's talk page. If you want something slightly more urgent, or perhaps in more detail, or maybe you just want a hand with something, go to the user talk page in question.

As for the categorisation, you're quite welcome. Besides, the other admins and I are in a bit of a categorisation frenzy at the moment. Glad I could help. If you need any more help, just post on my talk page. --Sikulu 15:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. --Riction 23:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned Pages
The following pages have been orphaned (no links to them) from your Vegetarian World Timeline:


 * 1) List of Nations (Vegetarian World)
 * 2) List of Countries by HDI (Vegetarian World)
 * 3) List of Metropolitan Areas by Population (Vegetarian World)
 * 4) Sovereignty (Vegetarian World)
 * 5) World (Vegetarian World)

Louisiannan 23:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Please read
Please read this page. --Sikulu 10:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

City Names
In the next segment or the one after in my timeline I'm going to be briefly using cities equivalent to Hiroshima and Kawasaki in location, I was wondering if you would have any sort of suggestions for likely alternate names. I don't know if it helps (or makes it harder) that Japan was under the Heians for most of its 'recent' history (970-1310).--TEAKAY 12:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm... So is the Japanese language the same in your world or different?  "Hiroshima" literally means "wide island", although it's strangely not on an island.  ("Shima" or the ending "-jima", as in "Iwo Jima", means island.)  Kawasaki means "river promontory", I guess meaning a headland or ridge along the river.  If you are looking for a variation or historical version of Japanese, I can try to change them into that (although I'm not sure if my results would be accurate), or you can give me the meanings you're looking for and I can translate that into Japanese. --Riction 14:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * A historical version OR variation would be fine. The languages and words I've been using throughout the althist have not been precision engineered, only superficially changed or combined, unfortunately oweing to my linguistic ignorance.  So far I have been able to come up with alternate names and terms, but that's because so many of the existing languages I'm using are (at least mostly) extinct and I could more easily come up with changes.  I'm treading thin ice with what I've been doing with Chinese as it is and Japanese in my timeline encountered less... event-induced deviations I guess... So the variations would be present but less noticable in the Japanese language.--TEAKAY 15:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm currently teaching in Saitama. The "sai" in that name is the same kanji as "saki" in Kawasaki.  However, its pronunciation was shortened.  (Like how "Greenwich" probably sounded like "Green" and "wich" before, but if we spelled phonetically, we would now spell it more like "Grennich".)  Maybe Kawasaki could be "Kawasai".


 * Now, as for an older version of Japanese, this is all conjectural just based on the little information about old Japanese that I have, but in olden days, the "H" was pronounced as "ɸ", similar to "F". (Earlier, it might have sounded like a "P", but this probably disappeared by the Heian period.)  Also, in modern Japanese, the "shi" sound would be more like a simple "si" - thus, "Hiroshima" would probably be spelled and pronounced something like "Firosima".


 * I believe that if you want something closer to older versions of Japanese, the modern "Kawasaki" would be better than "Kawasai", but if you just want some interesting variation, "Kawasai" might be better. You can even change it up more, as in certain situations, "K" changes to a "G" and "S" changes to "Z" (although in our world, they usually don't change in the beginning of words) so you could have "Kawazai", "Gawazai", or even "Gawasai" if you wanted.  ("AI" could be put together to form "E", so it could be "Gawaze", etc, if you really wanted to go overboard.  This would probably require that the language started diverging at least a good few hundred years before the era this name is found in, and this Japanese would be unintelligible to OTL old or modern Japanese...unless this only happened in place names (like we say "Grennich" but still say "green", not "gren".)   "Hiroshima" could be "Firosima" as said, or "Birozima" (or even "Virozima", which would certainly not be any old or modern Japanese word) or something else.  That's not going by old Japanese, but it's some linguistic change that could have happened.


 * Or, you could go with something else entirely. The Tama River separates Kawasaki and Tokyo.  If Kawasaki is the main city and Tokyo (which would be "Edo" or a variant thereof) was just a suburb (as Kawasaki is today), Kawasaki's name could be "Tama".  Hiroshima, as I said, is not on an island yet means "wide island", so it could be "Hirono" (広野) or "Hirohara"/"Hirobara" (広原) (or Firono or Firofara...or Filono, etc...), which would mean something more like "wide field/plain".  Or create something completely new...  I hope this helped. --Riction 13:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * :D It really helped a lot, thank-you --TEAKAY 15:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem! --Riction 08:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Can you help start these Althistories?
I am having trouble finding someone to begin my althistories. Could you help? They are listed on my user page. I can directly link them to you if you want and do not hesitate to ask me questions. --Dynamo ace 18:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd probably be able to start an althistory but I don't think I'll have time to add much to it after that point (especially seeing as how I just bought a new video game system and for the first time can play via the internet with a home console...hehe). If you'd like, I'll get started on one, but it would be good if you could find people who would add more to it later on, or it might just get deleted after a while, owing to a lack of content.  The one about Japan joining the allies in WWII sounds intriguing.  But if I did that one, I'd need to have some idea of what you'd want Japan to be.  If you want it to be a "good" nation, the POD would have to be set farther back, as on the eve of WWII, it had already killed countless Chinese and was very much war-mongering.  If you want it to be a "bad" nation that makes a truce with the allies, then the POD can be later on.  See if anyone else is interested and if so, tell me what kind of Japan you would like to see both back then and in present day (if the althist gets this far).--Riction 14:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Some lonely pages
Hi Riction, some pages of your TL are "lonely", i.e. not linked from other pages, just the category. Check Special:Lonelypages.--Max Sinister 21:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Ideas page
I just moved your Ideas Page out of the Main Space as I don't think it really belongs there. It's a great idea though, I think I'm going to make one too :). --Karsten vK (talk) 15:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! That's right...I forgot that I could have sub-pages of my main user page, so I created it the only way I remembered.  Although I've been using wiki-type pages for quite a while now, I still haven't learned (or have forgotten) many things.  If I make more pages like that, I'll be sure to follow your example. --Riction 03:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool stuff and some comments
Hey (I think this is "dw" haha!) Just some quick impressions, some countries that really need flags dont have them. Inkscape is a great graphics program for editing SVG files, head at it. Also, I think you need to photoshop some of your photos. For example, add some of the famed everywhere buses that are said to be in Sundarapore, and crop out some of the ugly road stuff and paste in some trees and greenery. On the flip side, your Japan pages need to have green pretty things removed (I even saw some beautiful sakura!) since that goes against the historical characteristic you established in text. EDIT: (oh yeah!) Also countries like Pacifica has borders that too closely match OTL. I would think it would be a little more organic (at least in places were there aren't natural borders like rivers...) Although with out graphics in Inkscape, it might be really hard to edit all your already made graphics. Do you know about vector magic? It converts PNG to SVG online quite well. Anyway, I had more thoughts but cant bring them to mind at the moment for some reason. Peace! J4p4n 18:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)