Axis vs Allies (Map Game)

The year is 1933. Hitler has just taken power in Germany. The world is still in a depression. Unemployment is high. This Map Game takes place in 1933, when Hitler has just taken power, the depression is in full swing, and the world is still recovering from the First World War. Will your nation become a superpower? Or will it be crushed? It is never too late to join

Rules

 * 1) 2 Nations per user, however you may not have 2 superpowers.
 * 2) Be plausible, no hyperdevelopment
 * 3) Nuke programs start by 1940. No earlier!
 * 4) Must be registered User
 * 5) 1 year pe r day, goes by half years.
 * 6) If there is anything else, post on the talk page.
 * 7) It takes at least 4 years to develop nukes if you're one of the "Big Cheese" (US, Germany (Maybe), GK, Soviet, etc). If not, much longer.
 * 8) Make a profile on the Diplomacy Page (Axis vs Allies)
 * 9) You can also be an occupied nation (ie India) and gain independence.

Mods
Moderators are people who can: Cause political and natural unrest. EX: An unknown group of people set fire to the Reichstag, or, A giant Hurricane strikes Florida. Basically, the players should respond to the mods posts. They will be underlined and not bulleted. You can also challenge implausiblilites, take votes to revoke some posts, and in very rare cases, you can actually kick people out! An * means you're approved! Please sign with only 3 tildes, like this: PitaKang

Things Mods can do:

 * 1) Make natural/artifical disasters
 * 2) Call for implausibility votes, where players vote whether people are being implausible. Someone please show me how to make a voting chart thing.
 * 3) Kick people off if they're being bad
 * 4) Ban people

Note: Don't be implausible/biased or I'll kick you off!


 * PitaKang- Mod-in-Chief
 * Roguejedi- Approved
 * CrimsonAssassin- Approved
 * Matt- Approved
 * Azecreth- Approved, Implausibility Detector

Wall of Shame
The list of banned users. Shame!

Nations
USA- [Pros: Good relations with most nations, good military, advanced technology][Cons: Suffering economy, people not happy] PitaKang 23:38, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Korea- [Pros: People unified, common enemy][Cons: Occupied by the Japanese, pays large amounts of taxes, morale low due to Japanese] PitaKang 23:38, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Soviet Union- {Pros: Hard to attack, massive army, excellent tanks][Cons: almost no fleet, obselete air force, Communist] Roguejedi 23:52, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Canada-[Pros:good relations with allies, loyal people, away from war][Cons: not many people, small army] Roguejedi 23:52, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

UK-Batmanary 00:47, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

China-[Pros:Large population, Large economic capacity][Cons: Underdeveloped military, Widescale civil unrest] Ownerzmcown 02:02, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sweden- [Pros: large navy, air force, has high industrial capacity][Cons: Small population, divisive Nazi and Comintern sympathies] BoredMatt 02:25, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Turkey- [Large army, self-sufficient, allied with Bulgaria and Romania][Very poor, little industrial capacity, small air force] BoredMatt 02:25, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Germany [rebuilding millitary, growing world power][Very weak ecomony, many enemies] BlackSkyEmpire 02:51, February 7, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

Cuba- [Pros: Good relation with USA][Cons: Smaller than most countries] CrimsonAssassin 03:15, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Mexico [Pros: Government can change quicker][Cons: Unhealthy]- CrimsonAssassin 03:15, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Siam [Pros: strategic location, wealthy, moderately large population][Cons: far from centres of conflict, little say on the world stage, recently experienced a revolution] Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 06:20, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Italy [Pros: relatively good military, growing economy] [Cons: Fascist government with peaceful majority, fascist dictator rules with iron hand] Fedelede 21:15, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Finland [Pros: Good military, stragetic location] [Cons: Small population, many ininhabitable areas] Fedelede 21:15, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia [Pros: Very wealthy off Oil] 'Cons: Corrupt government, weak military]StarkBlack 01:13, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brazil [Pros:Growing economy, Large territory] [Cons:Relative governmental unstability] - Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:40, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yugoslavia - Collie Kaltenbrunner 08:21, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

India - Batmanary 4:01, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

South Africa - [Pros: strong airforce] [Cons:shortage of available men due to race policies, pro axis/pro allied split] Jer1818 00:32, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

France -Ocelot9011 00:31, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Southern Asian Republic (SAR)-Ocelot9011 00:31, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Archives
1933.6-1948.6

1949

 * The oppositionist military is controlled and the skirmishes end.However, the Brazilian Imperial provisional government expands, controlling good part of the Northeastern region.the President Dutra tries to negotiate.He offers a change in the constitution which would make Brazil a parliamentary monarchy.the provisional government accepts.
 * Western Cuba and Eastern Cuba finally go to war with each other again. This time, however, both ask that other nations do not intervene. They want the civil war to end by Cubans, not an outside force. Western Cuba buys several bombers from the US.
 * Mexico offers an alliance to the USSR.
 * India offers several weapons to West Cuba. They also officially elect Khawaja Nazimuddin into office. They make a capital for the Pan-Asian Union in Calcutta. They also buy Goa from the Portuguese for an enormous sum of money.
 * Britain finally prepares the documents for the transfer of Yemen and Oman to Saudi Arabia. They also buy Macau from Portugal for a very reasonable price and give the Chinese an enormous sum of money to double the lease of both territories. They shut down all colonial exhibitions, and replace them with "global"exhibits. They commence recieving oil from Saudi Arabia, as per their land deal, and start to put military bases in the Falklands, a bigger one in Hong Kong-Macau, and make one on the Union of the West Indies, in order to get a better look at the West/East Cuba conflict.
 * Germany begins to throw its own comments at Italy, telling the nation that they could never be conent with its territories unlike itself and does not care who started the war; Germany tells the world that war should neverb for expansion wther it be by land, politics, or what so ever. The German press begins to show images of the local African population of both nations that had happened during the war and some topics go back to Italys invasion of Ethopia, in which chemical weapons where used.
 * There was no invasion of Ethiopia in this map game.
 * Siam updates its ports on the Andaman Sea and Strait of Malacca. It asks Germany and Italy to stop the hostilities and resume peace. Meanwhile, it occupies Pondicherry.
 * You can't just up and occupy Pondicherry. True it is French, but India is present right there, and technically an ally of France as well as being heavily interested in Pondicherry, Goa, etc
 * I know, but only France can decide what happens.
 * The US continues to build up their army.They also continue work on the atomic bomb.
 * Korea continues to build up their economy.
 * France stops all trade with Siam due to their conquest Pondlcherry. France also warns to Siam any more conquests and war wil, be declared.

1949.6

 * A new constitution passes in Yugoslavia.It is turned into a federative constitutional monarchy (it was a unitary one until that moment) divided in 7 banovinas.
 * Brazil formally annexes the rest of Bolivia.
 * India warns Siam that they cannot become a member of the UN, if they pursue aggressive policies against the French, when th Indian Navy patrolling the area questions a Siamese shipment of soldiers. India offers a formal invitation to the Pan-Asian Union to China.
 * Britain makes more bases in Malta, the Suez, and in Tasmania. They also warn the Saudi Arabian Army to stop expanding after Ethiopia, as warring to expand borders is a crime.
 * America also tells SA to stop expanding, and also tells Brazil to stop expanding, or face war. They continue their nuclear program.
 * Western Cuba invades more of Eastern Cuba. The Western Armies are showing no remorse in the war.
 * Mexico ENCOURAGES Saudi Arabia and Brazil to expand. They should not let themselves be bullied by America. The Mexican President states that "America has become increasingly hostile to nations that expand, even peacefully. They will betray their allies just to stop expansion. A prime example was the threat of war to Brazil, a nation that had recently allied themselves to the USA. We [Mexico, Brazil, Saudi Arabia] need to sign an alliance protecting each other in case another warmongering nation like the USA invades one of us." Furthermore, Mexico urges the UN to keep an eye out for American warmongering. Meanwhile, Mexico anticipates hostility from America and amps up its military as a precaution.

1950

 * Brazil continues to amp up military, navy and education system.
 * Yugoslavia makes a alliance with Brazil.It also starts to amp up its military.
 * With the French army out of communication due to the French-Italian War, the occupation of Pondicherry is successful. Siam establishes a free trade zone there, which is also a tax haven. It welcomes foreign investment and privatizes French-owned corporations, but agrees to pay back the French government. Siam backs patriots on Ihavandhoo and nearby atolls, creating a temporary sovereign state.
 * Italy continues it's war against the French, destroying most French air fields and sea docks by the end of the year. They also continue their fight in the Maghreb and Eastern France. The few territories still resisting on PACA and Rhone Alpes (which collapsed after the unexpected fall of Lyon) are retaken, and fortifications are started to be done throughout the Maghrebi-occupied areas. Italy also starts supporting revolts within the Muslim populations in the French colonies, already tired of French occupation and the war.
 * The US continues to research a nuclear weapon, and the production date of a nuke is made to 1951. They also warn that if France and Italy don't stop fighting by 1954, there will be war with the entire United Nations, a war that would devastate both nations. They lay out the terms, telling Italy to give back France all their territory, as well as both sides paying for damages
 * YOU CANNOT MAKE AN ORGANIZATION GO TO WAR UNLESS IT'S A MILITARY ALLIANCE! And the UN is a  peace keeping force, not a pro-French alliance.
 * We are not being pro-French. If you keep up this conflict, we will INVADE both nations, to bring peace to the region.
 * And that doesn't make it peacekeeping. Besides, the most the UN can do is to send peacekeeping troops and impose economic sanctions. NOT to invade another nation, or it stops being a peacekeeping thing. Besides, your term is pro-French, so you're being pro-French. And I thought you discussed the UN was self-regulating, not a world police.
 * Feds right. The UN cannot create measures pertaining to a specific nation that is not in the UN, because that nation has never agreed to the UN Charter. The UN cannot hold nations to a standard which they do not care for and have not agreed to and then use that as a pretext for offensive action. Even then, you must take into account that in order to take military action through the UN, the entire Security Council must agree to it. Turkey happens to be on the SC.
 * Turkey improves and expands their navy, as well as their ties with the other VP nations. Hungary is accepted into the VP as well.
 * India offers money to both Siam and France for Pondicherry, which could be well used to stabilize Siam's economy and rebuild Bangkok, and France's war effort. They promise it will remain an international trading centre and a tax haven for Siamese and French corporations.
 * Siam accepts half of the deal. Half of the sum is paid to Krungthep redevelopment, while Indian troops are allowed to occupy Pondicherry in amounts that are not to exceed 1.4 times the number of Siamese troops there. However, India does not keep sovereignty over the area. Siam requests that the city of Pondicherry be made continuous rather than divided into enclaves.
 * Britain offers to buy Dutch Guiana, and French Guiana for a sum, so the Dominion of Guyana can expand. They also sign over Yemen and Oman for the unlimited supply of Saudi Arabian oil, as promised. They also begin to start talks over recommencing trade with the Soviet Union for raw materials, and offers to help prop up the Japanese economy, with these newly acquired materials, in exchange for Taiwan.
 * France uses country roads as tempoary airfields and heavy bomb advancing Intalian troops. France plan a heavlly bombing day and destroy half of Rome, Bengazi, Tripoli, and sleeping trrops. France quickly zooms in and pushes back Italy to the Rhone Alps and PACA. France also warns Italy to hurry up with the peace negotioantions in order to prevent United Nations Sactions to France and Italy. France also sets up Pro-French and Muslim governments in it's Muslim territories and gives them more freedom.
 * I meant destroying your air ports like in the air force AND the infrastructure. How could French airplanes survive unscathed to the destruction of the buildings THEY WERE IN?!
 * SAR finishes building their capital Sargon building project.
 * Finland, outraged by France's barbaric bombing, sends volunteers to France under the Italian flag. They also, in a campaign of "Cultural Revenge", send their air force to Italian air fields in Northern Italy and starts bombing (and destroying) Bour cities throughout France, although this officialy was done under Italian command.
 * Mexico, primarily Roman Catholic, is outraged over the bombing of Rome. They critisize not only the USA, but France.
 * The Cuban Civil War ends. Western Cuba and Eastern Cuba unite.

1950.6
United States that the Panama Canal will remain in American hands (Its not a UN territory yet)
 * Getúlio Vargas is elected Prime-Minister.After his election, starts a great purge of the military involved in the attempted coup of 1949,and outlaws UDN.Meanwhile, Brazil amps up its air force and navy.
 * A terrible storm hits France and Italy. It then moves north-east and dissipates over the Western USSR.
 * Cuba expands its military. They suggest using uranium in the atom bombs and search for uranium in the Carribean Islands. Some uranium is found in an unclaimed island. Cuba claims said island and works on mining the uranium.
 * Mexico tells the world not to trust the USA or France.
 * The US begins to see the importance of oil in the future, and begin a period of intense cooperation with the Saudi government, giving them funding for refineries, and more. They also begin to build up relations with other Arab nations, including Persia and Iraq. They continue their nuclear program, and it is estimated that they will have a nuclear weapon by 5 months.
 * Korea continues to remain neutral in the war between France and Italy, and asks for assistance from the USSR, UK, and the US to help build their infrastructure and economy, which was ruined terribly by the Japanese occupation.
 * Japan launches an invasion of the USSR Manchuria, hoping to regain both Manchuria and Korea.
 * India immediately sends troops to defend Korea, blocking the border from Japanese attack.
 * Britain condemns the Japanese attack, and sends money to Korea to help the Koreans, but otherwise does nothing else. They do, however, send in troops to Taiwan and set up a base there. British scientists offer to help the US in the Manhattan Project, and as such the production of the world's first atomic bomb is scheduled for 1951!
 * Saudi Arabia continues to grow more powerful every day, thanks to their new export, oil. The people celebrate that Great Britain has handed over Yemen and Oman to it's rightful owner, Saudi Arabia. The President continues to send troops to Ethiopia, saying that it will stop expanding after Ethiopia is a territory of Saudi Arabia.
 * Both Yemen and Oman have been independent or part of GB for the past 600 years, each with their own destinctive cultures and takes on religion. How is Saudi Arabia their rightful owner?
 * France accepts Italy's proposal for peace treaty with three french regions joining Italy. France rebuilds it self which will take 1 year. France also announces a two year warning till they will most likly have nukes.
 * Colombia invades Panama; the official cause of the war it to recreate Gran Colombia, although in reality it was to give Colombian merchants an advantage in the pacific. Colombia assures the
 * Please, for now on, spell it correctly as Colombia with an O.
 * Turkey and the Varna Pact expand their air forces. They collectively condemn Saudi Arabia for invading the peaceful nation of Ethiopia without any precedent whatsoever. They call for a debate within the UN in order to discuss and hopefully resolve the situation. They, along with the closely alligned BC, begin research on nuclear weapons and hope to have working models by 1960.
 * Sweden, Denmark, and Norway sign the Bornholm Concordiat, creating a regional defense organization for the Baltic much like the Pact of Varna did for Eastern Europe and the Black Sea. They offer Finland membership in the alliance, which they hope will shift the balance of power in the region away from the CCCP. They also publicly condemn Saudi Arabia for it's invasion of Ethiopia much as the VP did.
 * taly finally withdraws it's troops from Algeria, and gives it back to France. The fascist party is finally overthrown by a social liberal coup, which replaces the liberal parliamentary monarchy, ruled by the Social Democratic party. It also offers a military alliance to Colombia, and condemns Saudi Arabia for invading Ethiopia, demanding that the invasion ceased immediatly. They also continue their nuclear weapons research, which, although delayed by the parting with Germany, is estimated to end by 1953.
 * Finland agrees to join the Bornholm Concordiat.
 * Germany as well orders Saudi Arabia to cease its invasion or face condemtion by the U.N. (Ethopia should not become part of the fascist people of Saudi Arabia, who's only wish is to take over the Middle East as the most powerful nation in the region. We will not stand by this, for a b alance of powers is what keeps peace, not expansion - The German U.N. Council/ p.s. The German U.N. Council is a seperate council which helps oversee that all regulations of the U.N. be followed by or so be it.)


 * Siam sets up a democratic election for the parliament for the newly created Dhivehi Republic, based in Ihavandhoo. The president, however, is required to remain loyal to the Siamese king if it wants protection of said nation. Similar movements spring up in the Seychelles. Siam upgrades its navy.
 * Saudi Arabia withdraws its troops from Ethopia. The President gives a speech. " The Goverment of Saudi Arabia is democratic, and is not facist at all. We, as a nation, did not mean to harm the people of Ethopia, but place them under our rule. We wish to become powerful, but not through bloodshed. So please understand that we are not slaughtereres at all. Italy, who has killed millions of French, has no right to insult us at all". You guys happy!?
 * Wait, are you a republic? Then why are you called Saudi Arabia?
 * We choose to keep the name Saudi Arabia simply because the people were citizens of the Old Saudi Arabia, this is the New Saudi Arabia despite the overthrow of the king. 
 * Oh.
 * Are we cool?
 * India tells the Dvihehi Republic to hold a referendum to see if it will join India or remain independent. (we can all have a say in a poll in the talk page for this. The country wasa small French enclave in India.)
 * I'm pretty sure Dvihehi refers to the Maldives, which was never a part of India.
 * Siam invaded Pondicherry, which is on mainland India.
 * Pondicherry isn't part of the Dhivehi Republic. Also, the Dhivehis were just liberated by Siam from Britain with complete support. Why would they immediately turn over power to a close relative of Britain?
 * Oh. They aren't part of Dhivehi? Then forget it. By the way, you just declared war on Britain.
 * Britain sends troops to Dhivehi.
 * Yes, but I have the advantage of popular support and therefore the support of the international community.
 * How so? The referendum on you joining the UN is still going on, and as you have attacked British sovereign soil, and soil that was going to be made into a Dominion, you have also cost Britain's support of you entry into the UN, and possibly also other countries'.
 * The Chinese begin to push for a counterattack in the Japanese-held territory, they push forward with guns and tanks, and capture much of the Japanese-held coast.

1951

 * Brazil continues to amp up its navy.
 * China continues advancing along the coast of the Japanese-held territory, and begin to encircle and close in on the ever-decreasing Japanese pocket.
 * Saudi Arabia continues to build up it's military. They also increase the number of warships in their army, and they manage to build two aircraft carriers. The Air Force is amped up, and the capital, Riyadh, has a population of almost 3 million. Riyadh becomes a supercity.
 * Ummm, I don't think Riyadh has nearly enough population to be a supercity.
 * The British land a contingent of troops in the Maldives, but then slyly land a huge battalion of troops in Malaya, moving from the west towards the east, capturing it, and striking the Siamese by surprise.
 * BTW the map should have Tenasserim as Indian territory.
 * We already went over this… Siam wouldn't just retreat after having its national capital ravaged. No one disputed my 12 reasons why Siam should have Tenasserim including you…
 * I thought we ended the war after I apologized for bombing your capital, and you would stop asking for Tenasserim. No one approved it either. In fact Indian troops are present there anywho.
 * India continues to send troops to Korea to prevent Japan from breaking through the border. Another batch of troops is presented to China to help defend itself from Japan.
 * I moved the map to the 1950.6 section.
 * Colombia begins to develope its army. Guerilla warfare tactics are taught to its forces and some efforts are made to acquire modern tanks. Colombia offers a pact of non-agression to Brazil.
 * Brazil accepts.
 * The VP and BC continue joint research on nuclear technology. Turkey and the VP continue to expand their air forces, while Sweden and the BC expand their navies.
 * The United States detonates a 15 KT nuclear weapon in New Mexico, code named Trinity, to become the world's first nuclear weapons state. They manufacture 3 more by the end of 6 months, and is expected to have 7 by the end of the year.
 * Remember, this would mean India would get some too.
 * Korea takes parts of Japan's territory in China, with help of Russian and Chinese forces.
 * Kaafu Atoll erupts in a massive riot between loyalists and supporters of Siam. By the end of the year, the large population of Dhivehi nationalists overcomes the remaining foreign rulers. The natives claim that the islands are so small, they should not be of any use to the British Empire, and should gain independence. The Seychellois people make similar claims, and Siam declares that it is behind their cause, despite providing primarily material support for the rebels. Siam makes a massive propaganda team through Sumatra, which promises independence and freedom from European powers. As the Netherlands is severely disconnected from its colony due to the war, the mission is mostly successful.
 * Independence isn't an issue. Britain is already planning on granting Dominionship to each of these states (which are small, and would need the support that Britain could give commercially, as well as UN membership.) They have already witnessed the Dominionhood of a huge bunch of nations, and would be aware that there are plans for them as well.
 * Meh. Independence > Dominionhood. Independence is easy to understand for the common Dhivehi. Dominionhood for the common person is no change, just a different white person in the palace, and loyalty to the king. The more educated would probably get angry that Britain did not release the Maldives immediately.
 * It doesn't work that way. Dominionhood is indepence in everything except for having the King as head of state. In fact all countries who gained independence from Britain all had a short period of Dominionhood to sort out affairs and set up a proper government. That is why in general, the British colonies in the world started off better in independence than the French.