User talk:Nathan1123

Post here to talk to me. Please be courteous and remember the delicious cookies I offered you!

RE: PM III colony
Hi Nathan,

If you wish, you can play as the OTL Northern California/Oregon colony. I renamed it to New Austria in 1750.

When you play as that colony, you'd still be a vassal of mine, which means that I have final say in all matters and stuff, but other than that, I'll let you have a good deal of autonomy. You can have whoever leader you want, expand wherever (I'll explain more on expansion below), and manage the colony however you see reasonable.

Now, most of the colony will be Spanish-speaking Hispanic colonists, so they will probably not like any new Bavarian/Austrian settlers. So keep that in mind.

In terms of expansion, I drew up a little map showing where I'd like to be able to freely expand, and where you can likewise expand:

So the green line represents the Line of Demarcation. The purple is New Austria, and the light purple is reasonable areas where you can expand, while the light pink is where I want to be able to expand. Be wary of the French colonies though, because they can expand just as much as you can, so be careful not cause territorial disputes with France.

As a final note, I'm not entirely sure how many pixels a year you can expand your colony by. For me, I can expand new Bavaria by 750 pixels a single turn. When Spain controlled the area, he could expand by at least 1500 or 2000 pixels a single turn, so I would ask a mod how much you can expand by.

Oh, and in actual maps, both New Bavaria and New Austria will be pink. I just colored New Austria purple in the above map for clarity.

Thanks for asking, and sorry for the long message!

Cookiedamage (talk) 21:07, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

P.S. when you post in game, I'd prefer you to post as New Austria (Colony of Bavaria):

Cookiedamage (talk) 21:08, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nathan,

Unfortunately, I think it would be both less plausible and less likely for you to succeed. My reasoning stems from the fact that in southern Hesperia (South America) there are many more Spaniards compared to where your colony is situated. In southern Hesperia there are at least six million, whereas in your area there are considerably fewer.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 20:31, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ethnic Subdivisons, population Growth, and more
Hi Nathan, I'm Edge. I am player in PM3 and I read through your turn and noticed several issues. First is your point about Ethnic Subdivisons. To destroy and meld ethnicities takes hundreds of years, and eve then it it's neigh impossible to completly remove one ethnicity without relocation or genocide, neither of which are good options for you. I am activly taken roles to remove the large Spanish Minority/Majority in areas of my nation, and even then it is not possible to fully remove Spanish culture. Second, Population Growth. You can use several equations for this, but the one I use is the, where Xt is the final result, Xo is the intial ammount, r is the precent per year, and t is the years passed.Steady Population growth, assuming no major wars, baby booms, or flood of settlers, is about 1%. Because you are a colony, you could ask Baravia to send settlers to the Nation, boosting your population further. Finally, remember your location. The Area you are set in, in the modern world, has about 20 million people. this isn't the Population limit for you, you may have more or less than that, but use that as a judge for your estimates. Need anything you can message me

Nathan, with regards to your colony's expansion, I believe according to the map the great Salt Lake is in French territory. In any case, because it is difficult for us mods (there are only a few of us) to keep track of everyone's expansion rates, it would be helpful for the future if you could mention the issue on the talk page under a section titled "Map Complaints." Providing a map for said expansion is also extremely helpful and helps eliminate any error in translation when responding to requests.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 03:46, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

You can do it in any sort of image editing software, like Paint Ms, Gimp, or photoshop. Paint Ms is the most commonly used, I believe, and should be free with most computers.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 18:22, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

On the subject you brought up earlier, Algonquia would, at some future point, be interested in such a proposition. I need to be cautious with the whole "independence" thing, though, because my protector France is not the kind of nation I want to anger. So once the whole colonial order starts to fall apart, its definitely something Algonquia would like to participate in. Shikata ga nai! 22:20, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nathan,

Regarding other nations, it's really a crapshoot. Some nations may be willing to aid, others will probably be more hesitant in fear that such rebellion might spread to their colonies next. Some colonies, while nominally supportive of independence, might be too busy with their own fight to consider helping others.

Long story short, if you want help, I would advise branching out and seeing who might want to provide such help rather than expect it to show up on its own.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 05:59, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

I just got back from a wiki-absence, so I only just noticed Scandinavia's declaration of war. Thanks for supporting me; you're the only one of my allies who has.Shikata ga nai! 23:22, March 21, 2015 (UTC) That would be great, if we can get Arcadia to help. Since he had a deal to partition my territory, that might be unlikely, but we can tr anyway. Also, Reme could play a role, given that it borders the colonies and presumably wants the land. Shikata ga nai! 23:16, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Scandinavia did win, but it only won 0.5%, which is essentially nothing. In fact, according to the rules, I think it gets lowered to nothing. So he gets a tactical victory, but no territory or concessions. Shikata ga nai! 21:40, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Important
Hi,

Message me back when you get this. I want to discuss colonial stuff with you, preferrably private. Thanks. Cookiedamage (talk) 17:44, April 3, 2015 (UTC)

Can you get on chat right now? And if you can't, perhaps tomorrow at noon EST? Cookiedamage (talk) 21:54, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Just a heads up, Arcadia is named the Federal Republic of Arcadia. Also I have sent troops, it is a small number but Arcadia is strapped for cash after the VInland Purchase.FOR THE GLORY OF THE PARTY! 03:51, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Map and Images
hey Nathan, to get your gains added to the map, they need to be .pngs. This is Edge, He is a cool guy when he isn't too lazy to sign his real sig. Hit him up. 19:18, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Could you get on chat please? This is Edge, He is a cool guy when he isn't too lazy to sign his real sig. Hit him up. 21:31, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

So I can't get on in an hour, at least not for long. So the quicker the better. This is Edge, He is a cool guy when he isn't too lazy to sign his real sig. Hit him up. 21:36, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

PMIII alliance
Sure, I would be interested in an alliance. Also we should get Japan to join it. Daeseunglim (talk)

Chat
Get on Chat. Daeseunglim (talk)

I'll think about it. Spartian300 (talk) 08:44, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Nathan,

It's me, Saturn120, the player of Reme. I would like to talk to you tonight on chat around EST 10:00 if you have a chance.

Anyway, thanks. Saturn120 22:39, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Let's get ready to rumble!!!!! Spartian300 (talk) 07:05, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

What nation are you? Spartian300 (talk) 08:13, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

I am on Now. #PraiseRoosevelt. 21:19, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Hop on chat when you can. I think I've found a way we can turn the tensions with Scandinavia (or whatever it's called now) to our mutual advantage. Shikata ga nai! 01:56, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Why's that? Cookie did the referendum for Bayreuth himself, so why can't I for Belize? I am that guy (talk) 21:58, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Files and Such
Was there a reason why you uploaded the same file twice? Since the file was straight off of Wikipedia, was there a reason you used the one with the wrong file name? And for that matter, why did you revert my edit if they are the exact same file? -- 04:02, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

It may be my lack of understanding, but the first file I uploaded was not displaying at all. So I considered it broken and uploaded it again.Nathan1123 (talk) 04:03, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's working now, so hopefully that should be the end of that.Nathan1123 (talk) 04:06, July 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * I do hope so. In the future, please don't change the file, as this is straight off of Wikipedia. Also do not upload duplications. Continued duplications will result in the temporary suspension of your account. -- 04:12, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

What exactly is the issue? I can see the image just fine. Is it simply not loading or is it broken for you? -- 22:39, July 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't figure out what the issues is. I can see the image just fine (and I'm currently using a shitty computer). Have you tried refreshing the page (F5, CTRL+R, etc.)? I'll also re-upload the file to see if that helps. -- 01:17, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Response to you
Nathan,

As I told you before, what we had wasn't an agreement, it was an ultimatum. If it was an agreement, then your point about Germany's credibility would hold. Yet, you made an ultimatum with a gun to our head. Breaking that shows that Germany isn't an easily malleable object, where all an intended aggressor has to do is threaten it with invasion, and it it'll get what it wants. The personal honor and pride Germany holds in itself is what at stake in that situation.

What you and I would agree to in this compromise is an agreement consented to by both sides. That is when Germany's honor to the world is at stake.

I myself don't respond well to ultimatums, but I honor agreements. If you post your compromise, I will accept, and I will honor that agreement, you have my word.

Regards, I am that guy (talk) 22:15, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Moot - not Mute
Bil EoGuy (talk) 15:42, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

=Shattered Stars and Stripes: S-Word=

Talk to me on chat about your proposal in mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/Shattered_Stars_and_Stripes:_S-Word

Wrto12 (talk) 16:02, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Shattered Stars and Stripes: S-Word
Talk to me on chat about your proposal in mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/Shattered_Stars_and_Stripes:_S-Word

Wrto12 (talk) 16:03, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

PMIII Turns
Here they are. Thanks for posting for me. Saturn120 19:15, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

1977

 * Reme: Reme begins to build up its military and economy. Reme elects a new president and starts to build up its navy. Meanwhile, trade is improved on, with industrialization, mainly former Byzantine areas slowly being introduced to populous areas. Lumber, cash crops, and other goods become a major export of Reme, and starts getting Reme a jump-start into the European economy. There is also the creation of New navy ships, to help modernize the Reman navy. Coal mines are built, and starts churning out coal at a consistent rate. Coal mining plants are also started to be upgraded. Reme develops a few more nukes under UN supervision. Meanwhile, violence erupts in Boston and Neu Gotland, mainly over a controversial killing in Cahokie committed by a radically motivated French Reman man against a Arcadian tour groups. The gun control debate starts to make its way onto political the political stage, with a few people in Parliament discussing the potential creation of a bill over it.

1978

 * Reme: Reme begins to build up its military and economy. Reme elects a new president and starts to build up its navy. Meanwhile, trade is improved on, with industrialization, mainly former Byzantine areas slowly being introduced to populous areas. Lumber, cash crops, and other goods become a major export of Reme, and starts getting Reme a jump-start into the European economy. There is also the creation of New navy ships, to help modernize the Reman navy. Coal mines are built, and starts churning out coal at a consistent rate. Coal mining plants are also started to be upgraded. Reme develops a few more nukes under UN supervision. Civil unrest starts to erupt in Neu Gotland and Boston over racism against Arcadians; with a few people also for an independent Arcadian state. Meanwhile, after several years making it big time; Remus breaks up due to internal issues. Word has it that Adolf Hitler didn't like his Jewish agent, and decided to move on. Jayson wanted to move in a more modern direction, but Louis and Napoleon wanted to stay the way they were. As a result, the band broke up. The Reman government brings in its national guard against the riots, trying to quell the race rioters down.

PM4 Request
Can I be the Tongan Empire for PM4?

 Jbwncster  (Talk)   19:30, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

propAganda
Bil EoGuy (talk) 03:55, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice, Id like to speak with you later about some more in dept strategies if you dont mind.

-Nova 01:33, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Dawn of War - FoA
OMGdidiwin  AKA The United Kingdom

FoA Cont.
I'm glad you agree with what I proposed. By the way Nk considers me the de facto head of the EU but there really is no head in the organisation. Anyways I am having trouble winning over France who said, and I quote, "This will only lead to tragedy... We should focus on bringing the rest of Europe into the EU umbrella..." Which I totally agree with the second half of that statement but they don't seem to see that we would have the upper hand in this conflict (the FoA is fighting on two fronts, half their army is an ocean away, they may be winning for now but their forces are depleting). I also would like to apologise for my lack of support in Indonesia. Hopefully this Filipino conflict will end soon (I'll most likely hold a referendum or make British Borneo independent if push comes to shove) and I will move units and possibly move commonwealth units in Australia to aid you in Indonesia. For now can you try and help me influence the other European Powers in the EU and in NATO to get on board and be ready to fight against the FoA? Also could you tell me just how many units you have in your army as a whole and approx. how many are in Southeast Asia right now? Update: Italy has stated that they will participate in the invasion and will aid us by sending units to Indonesia and British Borneo. OMGdidiwin

propeganda
No

propAganda

Bil EoGuy (talk) 00:46, November 13, 2015 (UTC)

Sup? Devin HD Mapping (talk) 16:56, November 15, 2015 (UTC)Devin HD Mapping

Congratulations


Congratulations, you are now a Constable in the TSPTF. This allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a constable, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.

When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at leastthree responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here. Since you are only a constable and do not have the power to delete or block, do not feel obligated to sign up for any duties you do not have the powers to do. Please inform and respect those in a position to do so if you see a problem that involves a need for either of those things.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon (talk) 16:42, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

NEW BABY
ME AND ANDY ARE HAVING A BABY, YOU WANNA MAKE A BABY TOO? (it's a metaphor for, we've started a community project, please check my sandbox.) ~Candiesrgod

WTF Man
Your a fucken cunt for banning me - Not telling my name dick

Answer to your question
You were wondering why I was blocked on Polandball wiki. He claimed that I gave wikia staff false information and was Europhobic, here is my view. First, I was confronting another underaged user, and claimed that the wikia owner was also 12 and close friends, and thus the owner cannot ban him. Then Antonio came in, and said he was the owner after its previous owner became inactive. Fantastic mapper immediately shouted, "QUICK, HE KNOWS YOUR REAL AGE." Immediately Antonio kicked me from chat so that I cannot screenshot the evidence. I came back, and he claimed he was 14, but then he refuses to tell his birth year, this led me to further believing he was underaged. Then chat users came, and started being Asiaphobic, insulting me for being a "subrace". I just defended my claims that Asia was the fastest growing economic region and projected to be wealthy by the mid-century, I think this is what he means by being "Europhobic"/insultive, but in reality it was the opposite. While I know that our wikia staff cannot interfere in another wiki's affairs, I just want to bring this matter up. ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, nigga. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Chat Ban
How long am i banned from chat?

Nlenhardt (talk) 05:34, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Are you going to ever answer me?

Nlenhardt (talk) 00:26, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

NWO
I have changed it drastically. Please state anything to improve it's current state. Please don't be like those "we've been here longer so we're superior" bitches. \(•u•)/ ~ yo' friend "C"

Re:New World Order
I saw. I'll take a look at the game and reassess.

—Bfoxius (talk)

Happy Valentines' Day!
This picture is for you Nate <3 *voice turns evil* I shall destroy you in your sleep, starting with your, and I quote, "devilishly handsome face" and your, um, sausage.

Re:Can't find images
No problem. I'll see if I can help you out.

If you are using the visual editor, then you can type the exact name of the file (from Wikipedia) and search by that. You will need to use underscores for this. So it'd be.

Another solution is to take the url of said file from Wikipedia and copy+paste it into this site's url. For example:


 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire.svg
 * http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire.svg

Other than that, I can't think of any other examples on how to find files using the visual editor. Here are the files you requested.


 * File:Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire.svg
 * File:Territorial changes of the Ottoman Empire 1520.jpg

I do hope this helps. -- 22:15, February 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think I've found another way to search for files. Just take the entire URL from Wikipedia/Wikimedia and search from that. If the file exists here, it should be found using this method (as far as I can see). So just search  and the flag should pop-up. Give this a try. -- 22:24, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Um... just letting you know that you uploaded a duplicate (that map of the Ottoman Empire). This is not going to be marked as a strike or the like, since I'm aware you are having issues. Could you please explain to me why you re-uploaded the file, as this will help me understand the broader issue going in and help me give a better answer. -- 22:37, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

95 Thesis
I think you may want to reconsider your alliance with the Maldives (or at least not act on it), as I think it's obvious I want to conquer it and the Maldives banned Islam in 1519. Daxus the Harbinger of Lameness (talk) 23:45, February 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * I actually uploaded the map for you shortly after requesting it. Guess it didn't register quick enough. No worries. -- 01:25, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

Nate, get ready. I'm at a crossroads. Do I stand my ground and help Sweden, and thus, start the war with Muscovy, or what? KingSparta300 (talk) 19:15, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Dude, bloody invade Muscovy already! You can do it! Feud is distracted fighting me! Just do it! KingSparta300 (talk) 09:26, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Kazakh
Due to some extrapolating circumstances with Kazakh they may be forcing me to go to war with them, i would like to avoid going to war with you plus all the hordes over him being overly aggressive at settlements that arent even on his territory. So id like to come to some understanding now hopefully

So I was banned by Viva, I stopped after you told me to but he just banned without a warning.  Jbwncster   (Talk)   02:26, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, Venice just set up a trading post in Liberia. I am not really sure if it is a good idea to do anything or just leave it. I am Songhai. What do you suggest? Person67 (talk) 07:05, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

Ban
You banned me from chat for no reason. Could you unban be as soon as possible? Nlenhardt (talk) 03:31, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

He did give a reason. ["disrespectful, harmful"] (from your chat log)

Global War
Yes I may understand you do not like it or want to play it but that is irrevelant. Unless there is an issue which contraditcs the rules I don't see why you should get to shut it down. The purpose of the comittee is to ensure a level of quality it is not for you and your personal preferences. The fact is I have 11 other people who want to play so clearly there is some demand for it. Person67 (talk) 07:39, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

New Sig
Tu aimes ma signature? C'est très cool et belle, non?

Greetings


I have a message from candies.

I have a timeline plan!
Check out my Sandbox 3!

Edits
I am going to surpass you in terms of edits soon!

YOUR HUSBAND'S MUSIC SUCKS!

If you change your profile pic to this my support for you will increase by 10,000%
(copy my profile pic and we'll be twins :v)

MAUR EDITS DEN YU
I have more edits than you now, you peasant.

How do you feel having less edits then me you wonderful peasant? [why are you ignoring me :c]

For the Park Chung Hee of the Occident
Nate,

There is no reason to write such flamboyant notes for a person whose personality is not fit to receive them. And I completely understand the reason of your absence, because in college there is a lot of smexy lecturers that single and ready to mingle. Due to my benevolence, I just wanted to leave a dozen messages so you have to read them to make up for the lost time.

Sincerely,

Are we going to keep writing like this forever? ,_,

CANCER
What is the meaning of this cancer?

Announcement
Hello Game of Nations player!

Now that turn one is done (Turn to starts Saturday) I have recognized the need for a more comprehensive way to plan events that involve more than one nation. So, if you would like to propose a past event, such as a war, Nation formation, or other event, please use the link I have provided below. Note that this only applies to events that involve more than one nation, so you are still free to make events that only pertain to your nation.

Thanks for playing Game of Nations, and I hope it continues to be a fun experience!

Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p1YFsylq8KUQkpuEDwMemOiMO7t7nbBtYp3xp8DGhRc/edit?pref=2&pli=1

Hi, I was just wondering what the MGOC's concerns were with AoA? Person67 (talk) 05:21, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

I am pissed off
I am incredibly pissed at you. Why? You claimed Manchuria even though Fires would've probably told you that I was going to create a Korean state (a surviving successor state of Balhae, an ethnic Korean–Mohe kingdom during the the North–South states period) located there. Don't expect me to talk to you for the next few days. I is hurt

I am TbombTheAltHistorian, I am here to thank you.
I am TbombTheAltHistorian and this is my other account. I would like to say thank you for making this community better by making sure NuclearVaccum is addressed about his actions. I would like to say that he IP blocked me as well and this is ILLEGAL unless he has a warrant (look it up). I would also like to say that I am so thankfull that you see my side and not just his, although I am aware I may have overreacted but it makes me so furious that time and time again he has reported me for this insane reason AND he duplicated MY IMAGE and then BANNED ME FOR 2 WHOLE WEEKS. As you can see on his chat i did send a diplomatic message first, but he just would'nt stop. He then banned me for exposing him. Thank you, but I'm using TunnelBear VPN and cannot stay long.

Best Regards, you are a good person

Queen&#39;s Own Rifles of Althistory (talk) 16:32, July 2, 2016 (UTC)Queen's Own Rifles of Althistory aka TbombTheAltHistorian

Re:Permaban
I appreciate your concerns. However, you need to be aware that I have already written a report to the TSPTF as to the situation and the reasoning as to why I permanently banned Tbomb. They include the only two messages which he has sent me. Both of which were inappropriate, pure harassment, and [quite frankly] "undiplomatic" on his part. All of these criteria can justify a permanent. -- 16:44, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Nathan, this is Kevin, and my friend TheBurningPrincess sent me to your page to let you know that her Wikia account has been permanently blocked. If you don't already have a DeviantArt account please feel free to make one if you want to keep in touch with her, and if you do have a DeviantArt already don't hesitate to look TheBurningPrincess's profile up on Deviant and add her to your watchlist, then send her a personal message because she wants to keep in contact with you there. Thank you for listening to this message, and have yourself a pleasant night.

Kevin Thomas Anderson (talk) 01:22, July 11, 2016 (UTC)Kevin 'The Skull' Anderson

Dear Friend
Dear friend, I decided I have enough.

I will still play map-games here, but I'll avoid entering this wiki's chat and I have taken the brave choice to move all my work to Conworls wiki. I have been given the opportunity to place Hani within Altverse – a project I've been modelling many of my pages on and could be described as a model project, and I do not want to miss that.

I also am severely pissed because of the users here. They are arrogant, misogynist, intolerant. They impose their opinions on other people. They are not fit to be referred as people, they are sub-human.

I apologise that I haven't been able to express my feelings in such a short period of time, but I should tell that you're a very good friend. Despite your odd beliefs, I hope the best for you. I hope that you get the girl of your dreams soon. Please send messages in my message wall in Conworlds wiki from time to time.

Well, it seems your efforts are futile, but it's not you, it's them. This wiki lacks rules, and half of this wiki needs to be purged. The administration needs to be more authoritarian, impose rules, ban mapgames, delete substandard pages, and start a crackdown in useless and trollish users. I appreciate your efforts so far, but it's fruitless.

ALGO FOR ISTANOBLE PM4
User blog:Bozistanball/B - Alternative History - Wikia

I updated the algo -bozi

Bahmanid Population [PMIV]
I will admit, I didn't do my homework on earlier population calculations. The core Bahmanid population is more like 9 million, but my current number (21 million) is including all the Bahmanid's conquests (formerly Vijayanagar, (~9 mil) Sri Lanka, Andhra, (1 mil each) Kozhikode and Venad. (1 mil combined) As India's population was ~100 million in this era, and the Deccan currently makes up ~ 1/5 of India's population, I think my estimate is reasonable. I tried to search for a direct source, but was unable to find any.The Guardian of Forever (talk) 16:00, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

PM4 Japan
AFAIK Feud isn't sending his max, he is sending 150,000 which is about 75% of his max. #BRINGBACK THESQUIRREL

Re: Skype
Hi, sorry I didn't reply to all your messages on the chat. When I show up, it's because I keep the tab open, so when I put the computer to sleep and turn it on again, my logging in on the chat appears. Since I'm usually checking something else, I don't reply. I'll be sure to add you later. I haven't checked Skype yet (I'm currently on the Chromebook which doesn't support it), but once I do, I'll let you know. Cheers. &#32; Centrist16 | Talk | Wiki  22:53, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Dear Caliph

The Sultan might pull out of the war to fear of losing land and getting attacked from the West.

Along with reports of the revolts possably being ASB I might pull out of the war.

With rising fear of the loss of the Cliaphate we might need to move into N.Africa to protect muslims in the areas from the West and RImp.

-Sultan Murad 2

Complaint regarding PM4
I was told to inform you about the following: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Principia_Moderni_IV_(Map_Game)#Grivances_with_Certain_Actions

Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 22:22, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

I expected better of you
Nate,

Outside of the game for a bit, I find your attitude towards me and others after recent events most unsportsmanlike. I feel that as a mod in PM4 and moderator for chat in general, I would expect you to set a model of respect for people who deserve it.

...

In all seriousness, I don't appreciate you accusing me of berating and belittling Bozi. I have done nothing of the sort, I have treated him like I treat everyone else. I was perplexed and confused as to why Bozi was acting so irrationally, and so was Scraw. I don't see why him being immature grants him special privileges. Scar and Oct (although he has gotten better) are prime examples of this. They are not special snowflakes, and are expected to be treated like everyone else.

I don't see how I am 'rubbing in' my success. Bozi is trying to act like he is above the game rules, and I and others have viewed you in a lesser light as of late, as we think that you are enabling him to do this. If he plays a major power, especially the Ottomans, and attempting to expand, there will be consequences.

I feel as if you have buddied up to him far too much, and as a consequence, your abilities to serve as an unbiased moderator have suffered. Bozi was in dire straits with his war against Persia, and I took my chance. If I am to be honest with you, I don't even have any further plans to expand into the Ottoman Empire.

If I have come off as arrogant and belittling, I can assure you that that was not my intention. I don't know why, but I am going through a bit of a mental crisis right now, where I can come off as very rude or aggressive, or very uncaring but I do not mean any of the sort, and I honestly don't know why I have been acting this way IRL, although from what I've been getting from a few people, my unintended toxicity is making its way here to the wiki.

I apologize if I have come across as such, but I would also like to point out you're not entirely blameless either, as you have treated Bozi as a special snowflake, allowing him to do certain actions without repercussions, or attempt to retcon the repercussions, or as of late, interfere with the repercussions on Bozi's side.

Maybe I need a break from PM4...

Blocky858 (talk) 05:00, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

Treaty of Kalamata
If you want to talk in chat Ill be on. -Nova 04:31, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Treaty of Bucharest
<p style="font-weight:normal;">Is this any better?  NathanialPrice (talk) 22:27, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Edge resigned
Sure thing, but throw in Australia as well. I think you're domesticating the kangaroos too quickly ;)

Also, I've mentioned this to someone before, but I've never really been any good at Algos, which may change whether the Mods are keen for me to take on the position. Callumthered (talk) 04:30, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

you are wrong
tobacco was in asia read it and cry and now remove the srike

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotiana_rustica

Bibleboyd316 (talk) 01:17, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

nope your wrong it says vietnam i just going keep removeing the strike Bibleboyd316 (talk) 12:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

naate a chaged the tobacco thing to opium which is more likely Bibleboyd316 (talk) 01:48, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

How can i get a Great General?
I'm playing as Ireland, and just want to know how i can apply to get a great general?RedDragon2000 (talk) 08:36, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Wombats
I think that you are undervaluing wombats as a work animal alternative. They are already quadrupedal, and can reach relatively large sizes already, Plus they would be easier to herd. Imagine, if you will, a team of six sheep-sized wombas pulling a carriage. I can totally see it. In like three centuries. Alternatively (or additionally), if you could invent the wheel you could use dingos like huskies.

Also, with the monotheism you've developed, if Christian or Islamic countries colonised the Australian continent, do you imagine syncretising your relatively similar religion into the new one to gain the respect/friendship/protection of the newcomers?

Anyway keep up the good work, Callumthered (talk) 03:09, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Australia
Hi mate,

I am glad Scraw gave you your parole. Far from being any reflection on your person or the overall quality of your contributions, my special attention (and perhaps strictness) when it comes to your Australian turns is more due to the great potential for overly-fast development which is inherent whenever a player decides to advance a tribal society.

Overall I am generally happy with what you have done. Regarding your written language, proto-pictographic sounds totally reasonable to me, especially considering the high level of meaning otl Aboriginal rock art/dot painting can carry. That being said, your most recent post suggests that it has developed into a "fully-developed language". This to me seems to be not only a huge jump in ten years, but also somewhat disingenuous given your previous assurance that it is only proto-pictographic.

Regarding writing in-game, I totally get that, and indeed I think it adds a lot to the game generally. However there is always the possibility that others, and the other mods, may not fully get it. So with potentially iffy things (like language, domesticated animals etc), perhaps a quick little explanation OOC in square brackets could help you avoid unnecessary issues. Callumthered (talk) 08:56, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

Pagan Conversion
<p style="font-weight:normal;">Attention Pagan Conversion Player. The game has finally started, so it is well appreciated if you post. Thank you :).

Pagan Conversion
<p style="font-weight:normal;">Attention Pagan Conversion Player. The game has finally started, so it is well appreciated if you post. Thank you :).

I am on chat

we need to talk about the treaty of B atman now

Scotland says "Yes"
Hi. So, concerning the label ASB on Scotland says "Yes", once i've moved the Chinese and Padanian parts to seperate TLs, may I remove the tag? Thanks,

Bryce III - ☕ Tea? 21:20, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Hi. So I've attempted to make some changes for Scotland Says "Yes", and was wondering if you would mind reviewing removing the ASB tags. For Padania and The Dragon Splits, we've moved them to new Timelines, and i'm in the process of heavily adapting Quebec, probably so that they do not achieve independence, narrowly. We've also been expanding existing parts, especially in the UK and Scotland. Many thanks, Bryce III - ☕ Tea? 17:51, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry if i'm going on a bit, but is there any chance in having SSY reviewed? Thanks, Bryce III - ☕ Tea? 15:45, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

Pulling a Putin
how do i do it -Bozi

PMIV: Florence
Hello,

I'm new to PMIV, and I'm still learning the stuff (I joined this map game as Florence). But I would like to know if Florence is an independent state or if is controlled by Milan. And if Florence is an independent state, should I create a page about it and put it in the footnotes?

MagnusWiki (talk) 11:15, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that, it's a relief to know that Florence is an independent state. I'll see about the Nation page later as you said.

Thx again!

MagnusWiki (talk) 23:52, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Native Americans in PMIV
Hey Nathan,

I'm glad you're a fan of my little encyclical. In my Responsum ad Dubium I was very careful in choosing my wording related to land, that is why I used the phrase "land used for livestock or agriculture". That way, land which Natives just sort of migrate on can be simply claimed and taken without issue, so long as their livestock, homes etc are not seized. The European colonies can make war with natives, be they organised civilisations like the Maya or Inca or tribes, so long as it has a just cause (their persecuting Christians is a good just cause, as is them attacking you). But enslavement of the natives cannot be countenanced.

I hope this leaves us both on the same page! Callumthered (talk) 10:26, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

OFF TO WAR
drop your books get a gun off to Moscow/Istanbul/Warsaw we go -Bozi

and maybe Paris -Bozi

Later Today
Is there a chance you will be on chat later today? It is about SA civilization. The issue is i'm not really contiuing your legacy well and i am considering quitting pmiv 4 altogether or signing up as gurkani. so hopefully we have the time to discuss this issue.

Warrioroffreedom123 14:40, December 16, 2016 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Feud sent troops so i need your backup -Bozi

Notice for RotA
<p style="font-weight:normal;">You have signed up as a nation in the map game Rise of the Arabs (Map Game) this game will be opening at 9pm GMT Greenwich time. Please post your first turn within 24 hours. Person67 (talk) 13:37, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

RotA and the North Yemen Civil War
According to the backstory of the game:

PoD: Al- Badr fails to escape in the 1962 North Yemen coup and is caught and executed. The civil war never breaks out although there is still low level insurgency by the tribes with no leader to rally behind and so not much happens

General534 (talk) 00:27, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Arab Indian Trading Company
Greetings. I thought it was Bahmani, not Bengal in the trading company? Because Bengal is about to get conquered. How about we not intervene.

Thanks,

Warrioroffreedom123 18:56, January 2, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Can you unban me from chat?
So, yes I did help the enemy. But part of my condition for speaking was that I wouldnt get a ban, and Andreas broke that conditition. Therefore, I would like you to unban me from chat.

Warrioroffreedom123 01:42, January 3, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Yeah it was really for no reason in the first place. FP Now 10% edgier!!! 01:46, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

i shall be Siam in PM4 as they converted to Islam (I am sure I will fall in a few yers to China)

About PV4
So which allies will you call to declare war on me. Bahmani is Shia and Abbasid is Sunni. I dont think they will do anything. And in the southeast only Siam is Muslim. Hey just let me take Bengal. And I promise I wont conquer more.

Dev271 (talk) 08:09, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

I will negotiate peace. I will leave Bengal homeland and Arakan. Ahom area is annexed. Kingdom of Koch Bihar (Koch and Chuttiya) become my vassal. Pegu and Ava become my vassal as the Taungoo Dynasty. These are my demands. Let us create a treaty page and then we can discuss.

Dev271 (talk) 08:16, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Islam in Sumatra
Greetings. Can you help me spread Islam in Sumatra? I intent for it to be Zaidi Islam, but perhaps you might still want to help. I also plan for a Jihad against Majapahit.

Your friend,

Warrioroffreedom123 14:00, January 6, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

where is the Maghrib deal in the Amman Deal? -Bozi

PMIV
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morrocco is a monacry, but Mauritania isn't.-bozi

A serious problem
Looks like kawaii launched a counter offensive rather than opting for peace. He also wants to air strike your nuclear reactors. Time to hit him hard till he accepts peace.

Sorry
Yeah Sorry man. I got a little carried away and forgot my promise. No need to worry. I wont do it again. Well also I would like to ask you about the USSR, USA and China war in RoTA. And what happened to China after that ? Since if China's economy was hard hit, India can become a manufacturing giant after I kick Indira Gandhi off from the PM's seat (Which will happen in 1975, Raj Narain case and its over).

Dev271 (talk) 12:38, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

What the Fuck Man
You had promised me my fair shair of ex Majapahit earlier. But I have seen what you have did. In 1577, you put all of Majapahit Islands under control of the Caliphate. What the fuck. I didn't want to be backstabbed. Fuck this, time to put a hardline anti Abbasid faction in power in Gurkani. Also Israel agreed to talks in RoTA.

Warrior

Events
Have you noticed that the wokou have now accepted my offer to protect them in-exchange for raiding Japanese settlements under the banner of my monarchy? Thus, the mod event is illegitimate. Even then, contrary to what you may assume, wokou aren't even Japanese but rather a mix of Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese pirates, and most historians posit that the first wave of wokou (during the early half of the Ming) were (full) Koreans from Tsushima (Dokdo) or Jeju.

The Wokou pirates are not one large united group and their loyalty can differ. While most Wokou may work for Korea it is totaly plausible for some pirates such as Akuma to work for Japan. The two events are mot contradictory. 카와이카매] ([[User talk:|카와이카매talk) 10:01, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

Caliphate and Indonesia (PMIV)
It's slightly implausible that the Abbasid Caliphate is able to directly rule over Sumatra and Sunda as "colonies", when they should be nothing more than distant, loosely associated vassals that receive funding from the Caliphate to keep them happy. An overextended realm cannot administrate its distant vassals efficiently.

General534 (talk) 00:28, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Crusade Against the Far East
I am calling total ASB on this crusade against the far east

Warrior

Gurkani
Hello.

I have been voted back as Gurkani. Unfortunatly, I had to end my dynastic union with the Abbasid Caliphate as I fear your civil war will spill over, but once this is all done, I need to deal with Hindu India player. His posts are simply to asb for me, so I think I will punish the nation. Hence why I am calling for a joint jihad against them.

Warrior