User talk:LxCaucassus



Group Timeline
Hello Lx, I am GB. I happened to notice me and you had one thing in common, that is we both love our Countries.Seeing as that, I thought I would like to get you on board on a TL I am working on, where the US is all powerful, the USSR still exists and is allied with the US (although the USSR is much more weaker due to several SSRs breaking off), and the land east of the Urals is a democratic nation know as the Russian Federation which is also allied with the US. These three nations are united against a unified European Union (minus the UK) in a new Cold War. Its a open timeline, but its still under construction. I figured when I got it up and running you could have the USSR and Russian Federation articles if you want it. Give me a ring when you get this. God Bless the United States of America 15:28, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Alliance
Hi! You're Russia, right? I'm the King of Vijayanagara Empire. Wanna be allies? I'll give you the provinces of Travancore and Kanyakumari (both are costal towns) if you assist me in the battle against Hanthawaddy, Vietnam and Japan and prevent them from invading India. Arceus The God of Pokemon 15:21, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, are you still going to do Invasion: 1950? Azecreth 16:41, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blogs, Badges, and the Like

It's pretty obvious that that blog post was just you going for a badge. Doing things like that just to get badges, but spamming up the wiki, is against our rules. That applies for all badges, btw. Don't do it again. Lordganon 09:21, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Alliance
Estonia would like the alliance in between close powerful countries... >:]

Cedhead 01:22, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Canada
About Principia Moderni,i see that you estabilished a colony in Montreal.Unhappily, i have a colony in the Labrador peninsula, and our interests may conflict, since i plan to reach the Great lakes with it.how about we divide Eastern Canada to avoid conflict in the future over the colonies?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 19:53, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would like to keep the agreements in the talk pages.however, if you check the 1586 turn,you will see that i took Warsaw first.

However, i agree to your requests (in Canada), except that i propose that in the St. lawrence valley, all territories in the Labrador peninsula eastern littoral are yours until Baie-Comeau.but i can settle for your offer.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 16:30, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cease Fire
I know China and Russia are not on good terms, but I would like to ask for the reason of a century and a half of bickering. If you pull out of China now, we will open a trade route and cease doing whatever was making you mad. CrimsonAssassin 21:33, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Vassili was kind of Impulsive, I will draw out after the revolt in 1610/1611that deposed Vassili IV or after an algorithm if it takes place, Vassili was not liked alot by the Russians. I would like Free Trade and a pact of non-agression with China, wich will be overseen by the Romanov dynasty. LxCaucassus 21:41, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good! Any good in particular you'd want? CrimsonAssassin 21:43, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Spices, salt, fireworks, in return you can have alcoholic beverages(Wodka), caviar and fursLxCaucassus 21:52, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds great! I look forward to ending hostilities, should I make it out of this... CrimsonAssassin 21:56, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ur choice, its a conflict-and one of the criticisms of the game was lack of conflict- so mabe it should continue to algorithm to silence criticsLxCaucassus 21:59, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I just want my territory back. I worked hard destroying the Mongolians! CrimsonAssassin 22:00, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Imperialist America
Respond quickly because Austria, USA and China plan to invade you in the year 1830 on Imperialist America. We can surprize Austria and I can help with the USA and China.

Who is this-and thanks for the invasion date...I will give you technology for making percussion cap rifels(by that I mean parliment will know of suspisions in china and austria and not sell percussion cap to them). please sign your name next timeLxCaucassus 14:46, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

They think I'm going to join them but I'm going to attack Austria and America's African colonies.Scandinator 21:39, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm on your side and I need the naval shells for my next plan. Scandinator 05:47, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ok if you launch a push against the Austrias next turn all they'll have left is Joseon. And my army will rampage into Siberia against the Chinese. France is helping and Britian wants Canada.Scandinator 12:49, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

The Qing should be allowed to keep Manchuria. The Han Chinese get a rump state. You can have Outer Mongolia, Xinjiang, Qinhai, Gansu, and part of Inner Mongolia. The Qing get Shengjing, part of Inner Mongolia, Jilin and Heilongjiang. The Japanese get Korea and Sakhalin. France gets Yunan, Sichuan minus Chongqing, Guizhou and Guangxi. Prussia gets Guangdong, Hainan, Taiwan, Shanghai.Scandinator 05:02, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ta!!
I am very happy that you have nominated Venusian Haven for Featured Article. I can't figure out how to but thanks again!! :D Imperium Guy 22:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Funnier History
I am just wondering, why did you delete the Funnier History Map Game.Roguejedi 02:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

O, wait, my mistake. It isn't the funnier history map game. Never mind.Roguejedi 02:42, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies Revised

 * United Kingdom: The British declare war on the Soviet Union and Poland, and 200,000 thousand troops are sent to help Finland while the British Navy begins attacking ALL Soviet ships and much of its coastline cities. The UK response to the Soiets is that yes you were on the defensive, but how many other nations were on the defensive that you conquered, it is time to teach you communist scum what you deserve. Britain withfraws all penalties from Germany due to the Treaty of Versailes and other treaies thereafter, Germany is given the green light to fully mobilize its entire armed forces and navy to attack Poland asnd the USSR, of which all of European Poland and Russia will be ceded to it, the Baltic States, and Finland. The British Army invades the Soviet Union through Persia, and the army, numbering 200,000 men, begins to destroy the Soviet countryside and cities, hoping that Germany will launch an attack soon though Poland, draining more Soviet-Polish troops to another front.
 * You and I are now allies, I hope you will allow me to use your naval and air bases so I can attack Russia. 200,000 British troops are now under your command
 * DeanSims 16:18, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

What do you say to joining, USSR, Thailand, China and Italy on the Dark side...... we have cookies :D If you join; Scandinavia and Greenland will definately be yours and if the war goes to plan, half of Canada too... Scandinator 23:31, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Do you like this flag or should I change it? Its for AvAr Finland. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 20:12, September 7, 2011 (UTC)



Failed Revolution
I understand what your saying, thank you for pointing that out and my mistake of deleting what I thought was not needed anymore due to implausibility. BlackSkyEmpire 04:25, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Siberian Expansion
While I believe that, in all respects to Collie, he may not be giving you enough expansion in Siberia, note that if you want to post a map of how you want Siberia to expand, do so on the talk page. And name it something along the lines of "File:LxCaucassus Russian Expansion Proposal 1660 (PM).png," it would make the game a lot more organized.

But keep in mind the reason you may not be getting as much expansion as you want, it would help if you said something like "Russia expands through southern Siberia, towards Lake Baikal so the mapmaker is aware that you are not expanding your entire frontier. And also, rest assured that once you begin industrializing, your expansion will probably speed up. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 01:27, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Will DoLxCaucassus 02:24, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

United Nations
You are part of the Un-permanent Security Council of the United Nations for 5 years, chosen by Random.org. Please confirm on the talk page if you wish to be part of the United Nations. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:42, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Maps
I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by uploading so many new maps. It seems like you just reverted to a 1655 map. I'm just letting you know you can have Kamchatka by 1665, but for now just wait. The main problem is transportation. It would take approximately 2 years to reach Vladivostok from Moscow, because the distance is 4,000 miles as the crow flies. I mean, imagine the early pioneers of America having to go twice as far across cold and desolate steppe. There is a reason why in OTL, Kamchatka was not settled until 1740. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 02:21, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr
Could you do an algorythim for me which shows me pushing back the Soviets from Afganistan and Persia please?? Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 11:18, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

And could you do the algorythim for Britian as well?? Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 11:37, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry Lx, I told Oxfordshire1972 about the Greater Finland thing. You have been a great ally in this great coalition which has brought the Soviets to their knees once and for all. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 20:25, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Just saying, if you continue your aggression against the US, we will nuke the shit out of you. Turn Finland into a nuclear wasteland. Don't push me. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:41, September 29, 2011 (UTC)



Noted about Finland, I almost got squashed like wise in Bohemia.Oxfordshire 1972 03:36, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

The Fearo Islands are technicly part of Demark and so would be in SUMA to. Iceland is nordic so they could join it if you wanted them to.Oxfordshire 1972 01:11, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

I take nucliar war seriosly, that is why Venezuela has has pledged to never use them. I know about the bomb and it's efects. I will post some more info on the talk page in a few days time.Oxfordshire 1972 00:31, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

AvAr cononistay v sublimation alert!
I agree, it's gon into inplausabilaty overdrive. It fell apart in 1949 and went totaly waky by 1956. I may leave the game soon, like many have already done. I've lost the plot, continuity has broken down and all cononisaty is lost now. Argentina's user has not posted for a while, so they may have walked out like so many others.[[User:Oxfordshire 1972|Oxfordshire 1972] 03:08, October 18, 2011 (UTC)]

AvAr R.I.P.
I think it's dead now, since it only has 5 remainig players. I've moved to- ''Radioactive Tide (Map Game). ''Oxfordshire 1972 14:48, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Caucasus
So, we need to define what will be Russian territory into Caucasus. Even if my calculation of chance is wrong, i think that you will not have right to more than 20% of Ottoman territory.So you said that you wanted areas 1, 2, 3 and 4.Astrakhan, Dagestan, Georgia and Shirvan.Georgia has a additional littoral, since Greece can't control all the way to there.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:11, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Russia will be open for a new player as Azecreth left. Or you could reestablish NUMA, witth Norway, Iceland, Greenland and Sweden and negotiate for Finnish (and maybe even Karelian) freedom!! :D Imperium Guy 10:05, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Plus, look at the new map!! :D Imperium Guy 10:09, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

What dya think?? :/ Imperium Guy 13:03, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Principia Moderni Persia
I am very sorry. I will change my move. I also will change my move for the Arab states. Please don't push me too hard like that. I feel a little broken up sometimes.

RandomWriterGuy 02:38, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

There may be a little problem
There's a sample of what the 1700 turn became after you posted; "<img data-rte-meta="%7B%22type%22%3A%22image%22%2C%22wikitext%22%3A%22%5B%5BFile%3APrincipia%20Moderni%20Map%201700.png%7Cright%7Cborder%7C200px%5D%5D%22%2C%22title%22%3A%22Principia_Moderni_Map_1700.png%22%2C%22params%22%3A%7B%22border%22%3Afalse%2C%22align%22%3A%22right%22%2C%22caption%22%3A%22%22%2C%22alt%22%3A%22Principia%20Moderni%20Map%201700.png%22%2C%22width%22%3A200%7D%7D" data-rte-instance="73-600453354eaadbc1d4e64" alt="" src="http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111028080609/althistory/images/thumb/6/6a/Principia_Moderni_Map_1700.png/200px-Principia_Moderni_Map_1700.png" width="200" height="92" class="image border alignRight" type="image" /> <img data-rte-meta="%7B%22type%22%3A%22image%22%2C%22wikitext%22%3A%22%5B%5BFile%3APrincipia%20Moderni%20Map%201700%20Key.png%7Cright%7Cborder%7C200px%5D%5D%22%2C%22title%22%3A%22Principia_Moderni_Map_1700_Key.png%22%2C%22params%22%3A%7B%22border%22%3Afalse%2C%22align%22%3A%22right%22%2C%22caption%22%3A%22%22%2C%22alt%22%3A%22Principia%20Moderni%20Map%201700%20Key.png%22%2C%22width%22%3A200%7D%7D" data-rte-instance="73-600453354eaadbc1d4e64" alt="" src="http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111028062613/althistory/images/thumb/f/fa/Principia_Moderni_Map_1700_Key.png/200px-Principia_Moderni_Map_1700_Key.png" width="200" height="25" class="image border alignRight"  type="image" /> " the "*" are being substituted by "", and the files on become a mess of code like that that you are seeing., although the images still can be seen.I eventually had to correct that version of the page. Are you sure that your computer doesn't have a problem?this is happening literally every time you post for Russia on the main page.(strangely it didn't happened when you replied to Persia)--Collie Kaltenbrunner 17:22, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

PM Great Northern War


Sweden is currently winning and it appears as if Sweden will gain 6% of Russia. I propose a ceasefire by 1704 with the green areas to be taken by Sweden (if Russia pays war repatriations and "promises" not to reattack (cough, cough) then Sweden may only take the blue area but that is minimum). Otherwise if fighting continues and the offer is ignored until 1706 then Sweden will take the yellow area. If you continue resisting then Sweden will annex the Orange area but that is only if russia refuses all offers.Scandinator

Note that as Sweden is only annexing parts, that means that it is not life or death, as the existance of Russia itself is not threatened. LurkerLordB 18:00, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

The existance of Lithuania is realy threatened, that's Ukrane(small russia), and/or Belarus(White Russia) are cultural ports of Russia, Thats the Russian pride, Slavic Prde, and Russians would do anything to defend it. LxCaucassus 18:08, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Currently Sweden is set to lose 2.59% of their territory in the war.LurkerLordB 22:02, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you add Persia to your side. They refused to join either side so far. That means Sweden still has the option of taking 5% of Russia. Scandinator

Sweden wishes to end the conflict ASAP so can we finish by 1705. with peace talks lasting at most till 1708.Scandinator 04:55, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

I have a proposal. We end it now and Sweden may give back the chunk of Russia proper west of Estonia or the one south of it. But Sweden is taking all of Lithuania, Crimea, Estonian islands, Livonia and the yellow part of the Kola.Scandinator 09:27, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Alright
Alright, I'll participate in your war with Sweden. I'll send you troops to help fight Sweden. I felt heartless when I refused to fight in the war with you. because of what you did to help me, I thought I help you.

By the way, does Sweden have any colonies in India?

--RandomWriterGuy 18:15, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. the reason why I asked if Sweden has a colony in India is because I have a strategy that may give us an upper hand. Are there any other colonies Sweden owns?

Truce
I can not believe I'm stuck between Scandinator and you. because I can not make my mind about this. Scandinator told me about the fact he helped me fight Kashmir and end Vietnam's war with me. After reading this message, I had enough. I suggest you and Scandinator declare a truce. Just keep what you have and try not to attack Sweden again. please, I am stuck between the two of you and I just want to get out of it. --RandomWriterGuy 04:37, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

PM Trade
Russia has 9 trade routes. there are 3 land routes with China (one via OTL West Mongolia, another via OTL Western Kazakhstan and one into Manchuria), two with Hungary (one with Hungary proper and one with Greece via the Caucasus), two with Persia (one via Caucassus, one via Central Asia), one with each of the AGC and Hanthawaddy (their Kola colony). Trade only occurs between player nations as NPN's are in isolation. Sweden has more due to the strategic economic positions of Scotland, Libya and the Netherlands. The Dutch were essentially the Venice of Northern Europe and opens many routes across Continental Europe Libya operates routes across the Med. Sweden proper has only 5 trade routes with 3 more coming from each of the Scots and Netherlands and 4 extra come from Libya. Also I did not forget about sea trade, but Russia can't just say I have routes to Shanghai and HongKong so thats two extra. The routes are by country only. Scandinator

Ok since you have insisted and Itsaygahi has returned I have lowered the criteria for a trade route. You now have 18 and I hope your happy since I took 3 hours to reformat check and complete a new set of routes.Scandinator 21:12, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Areas
What areas does the Greater Slavic Confederation cover in Radioactive Tides? :D Imperium Guy 20:12, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

I Finally Made My Choice
I have finally agreed to join your side in the Great Northern War. I was reluctant because Sweden and Russia are my allies, but in the end, I chose Russia since I might me aided in the invasions of the Indian States. I have started my invasion by the way. May you support me?

RandomWriterGuy 21:32, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Great Northern War
Ok, keep Lithuania. But I still want the Kola, Livonian, and Estonian territory. Better snag this offer or else I will wait until Kunarian returns... Scandinator 10:53, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Finnish Uprising
DK wants peace. Just hand over Livonia, Northern Lithuania, Karelia and OTL Finland without an argument, otherwise the uprising occurs. I have cut off half my demands and moved much into the uninhabited north. Russia will have access through the Gulf of Finland as part of the treaty. Admit it. You lost fair and square. Scandinator 05:31, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Treaty of Rome

 * 1) Russia and her supporters will acknowledge defeat.
 * 2) Sweden will only annex 2.5% to 3% of Russia not the full 5.3%
 * 3) Livonia and the Estonian Islands will be handed over to the reformed Baltic Alliance
 * 4) Lithuania will be split with the smaller Northern section becoming North Lithuania - a puppet state of Sweden
 * 5) Sweden's remaining annexable territory quota will be taken from the Finnish border.
 * 6) Russia, Lithuania, Armenia, Persia, AGC, Greece, Kazakhstan and China will not attack Sweden and her dominions, France, Algeria, Yemen or Vietnam. 
 * 7) Russia must pay 1.5 million kronars to Sweden and her allies and send men to rebuild the damage to Swedish infrastructure.
 * 8) Russian and Lithuanian military bases and manpower in Kola, St Petersburg, Lithuania and within 100 km of the Baltic alliance will not excceed those in Finland, Baltic Alliance and North Lithuania. (Sweden has no way of enforcing this)
 * 9) Sweden is allowed to keep the strange contraptions found near St Petersburg (steam engines).
 * 10) Sweden will graciously allow Russian traders and government the use of Finnish, Baltic Alliance and North Lithuanian ports for no charge. (Russia also has the Black Sea)
 * 11) Any breakage of the treaty will result in either repatriation payments or war.

~Scan

Amazes me how he fails to get the point, Lx, as well as what that blasted algorithm says.

At this point, I think you should take the Finland route of Kenny's.

Lordganon 00:24, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lx, look at the tone and wording of what he put. Nothing preliminary about it.

Last statement was pretty clear, but Scan is the one not getting it, Lx. You are trying, in my opinion, and being decent about it - he is not.

As I said, I think the Finland route is best.

Lordganon 01:00, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

FA
I would say it has been days since the mod thing was put up, and you have a majority. Therefore I would say you are a mod!! :D Imperium Guy 16:04, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

AvA (r)
Fancy returning to the game. It needs new players since many have left. The USSR needs your help and history is in the makeing. Glad to hear if your like rejoining. 82.11.86.136 20:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Aid
Can you give me some modern military technology to aid my army?

RandomWriterGuy 05:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

About Principia Moderni
Finland accepts your offer. Though, I though that regional provinces/oblasts/etc. would be able to have their own flag (like Tatarstan in OTL modern Russia, the OTL modern Prefectures of Japan has flag/symbol etc.) or it didn't exist in this time era? Either way, even if I don't keep my flag, I still will accept your offer and join Russia in a supernatural confederation. -Kogasa 11:50, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

About some map games
I would like to invite you to the two of my map games: Peaceful Democracy and Greater Europe. I would be very thankful to get these games active :) Atleast the second one. Doctor261 17:34, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

So yeah... You gotta stay a bit more active in Greater Europe :P Doctor261 19:02, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Greater Europe
Look, I am sorry. When you were out, I thought you lost interest in the game. I just made a mistake. Besides, I am just trying to get used to this, o.k.?

RandomWriterGuy 21:44, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Update the Greater Europe map to show Brazil separated would ya? Just so we know what we're dealing with, concerning Brazil's split VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 17:04, December 9, 2011 (UTC).

Algorithm Help
Hi Lx. Can you help me please about how work the algorithm in my war in FA Map Game? Regards! --Katholico 02:47, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, i change some things, what thinks now? is better? --Katholico 14:51, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think that now understand better, thank you very much! :) Regards! --Katholico 17:19, November 22, 2011 (UTC) you can be a Canadian province, but Canada has collapsed as well, so you cant be all of Canada. I will alow Ontario and Manitoba to merge on the first turn you post, since those two are very alike in many ways. DeanSims 17:55, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

RT
You might want to post and see the map. Your country is pretty big. :D Imperium Guy 22:48, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you going to come back to Radioactive Tide?Enclavehunter 23:22, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

War against Japan? (PM)
Hello, if its okay, can I declare war against them (Japan)? I plan to save them, and plus after said war, I would like to help get them up to date and improve on allot of other things and help supply them etc. I also want to plan, that in the future (maybe 1900s?), I can hope to release them to hope for complete reunification of Japan, by peace of course (as in, Japan would have all of OTL Japan's lands, plus Karafuto and some of the Kuril Islands).

This will be the only war Finland will declare, promise. -Kogasa 08:19, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know, but there is still some of Japan left (the ones in dark grey, I mean). Or is that area of Japan under control too? -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.png|23px|border]] 12:08, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm removing you from mod team in Greater Europe, because you did everything for Ottoman's advantage. Again. Thank you for having interest. Doctor261 05:29, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

You see... If you think Persia had worse military than Turkey, then you are wrong. You see... Yes, maybe Turkey had more troops. But during WW2, the main point was NOT the military number of personell. It was their experience. And IF you have no idea who is about to win, then don't change anything, if you know NOTHING about their technologies. And also. YOU changed the chance so it would be Ottoman victory. There was only 1 point difference. I'm very dissapointed by you, LxCaucassus. My decision stays, until you verify what you said. Doctor261 05:32, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're joking me, right? If you made adjucation of Turkey having better military than Persia, I feel very sorry for you. And I still don't understand why you changed the chance. Oh wait... I understand. To make Turkey win. And seeing as you show full disrespect of my knowledge in history, I see no point continueing this conversation, which is hereby closed. Doctor261 13:35, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

And that somebody is not the player who comes and invades a nation for no reason. Doctor261 13:49, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

I told you, that I closed this discussion already. Please go to God of Map Games or Administration of this wikia, if you have issues. And stop trashing my talk. Thank you. That would be all. Doctor261 13:06, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Revolutions 1750
Where have you been lately? have you notice the Revolutions 1750 has begun? RandomWriterGuy 23:19, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

GE
Possible flag for south Brazil? :D Imperium Guy 22:27, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Cool!! :D Imperium Guy 12:44, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Venice in PM
sorry for having to pull out, you see people think I have a vendetta against Yank and if I continue to fight the war on your side, win or lose, I will be attacked for RPing my nation. Because according to them in real life nations have never opposed each other. Kunarian 17:26, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Would you support me in a war against Bulgaria? Saamwiil 22:31, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

What would be against the morals of war with Hungary, not that I want to start war with them.... Saamwiil 22:55, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I do not know the vassal system. Is wallachia a vassal to Hungary? Saamwiil 22:59, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll send you supplies, but in turn, I only want the Crimean Peninsula. My Ottoman Ancestors once had control hear. Saamwiil 01:33, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hey. I wish you to help expand my Greenlandish colony. Saamwiil 01:40, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

you can be a mod if you want and the gaem has already started. you can post on the second turn.

DeanSims 22:55, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

American Empire
Louisiana proposes this map as we are both dissastified with the American proposals. I offer this to you if the negotiations with the Americans totally breaks down:

Please tell me what you think. Bobalugee1940 18:48, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Russia is not gaining all of that land. You should have some, that i understand, but not that much. Louisiana is now part of the USA. DeanSims 18:58, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, can you help in war against Bulgaria. Aparently they aren't a vassal of Hungary.Saamwiil 23:51, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Since i kind of broke our treaty about North America, signed some turns ago, i am trying to fix the error.so, i am proposing that we trade 1000 sq km. Like this: i give 1000 sq km of Neos Preveza to you, making your colony have a outlet to the Great Lakes, and you give 1000 sq km of your Sri Lankan colony to me.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 13:04, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

re: USSR
I understand completely. If you insist on being Russia, you may be Russia. I'll probably end up having fascist Spain or something. Cheers!

CrimsonAssassin 02:15, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
The game is starting now. Thanks for playing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

join the NPA/allies and find vengance against the axis

Armenia
Have you had any plans for your puppet state of Armenia in PM? RandomWriterGuy 08:21, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Treaty
Here is the final draft of the treaty to end this norhern war:


 * 1) The Finno-Russian union is dismantled
 * 2) France, most specifically, the Nouvelle-France colony gains the island which is OTL Prince Edward Island.
 * 3) all of the colony of Canada will pass to vietnamese control.
 * 4) The islands of the Gulf of Finland are given to Sweden/Estonia, as well as Courland.
 * 5) The Russian part of the Kola peninsula will be given to Sweden.
 * 6) Russia gives up its claims to the peninsula of Kamchatka.

Go to the talk page and sign the confirmation of the treaty.

--Collie Kaltenbrunner 13:58, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Principia Moderni Message
Check this out. RandomWriterGuy 22:36, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Dude, why are you supporting Bulgaria? I am your ally. And, you didn't have a previous alliance with Bulgaria?Saamwiil 06:00, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hey im playing as Nueva Granada in Axis vs Allies reloaded im starting up a new alternate history and was wondering if you could help me out. its A Darker Place

Avaro
I believe that you will have to unconditionally surrender the way the war is going for you. However, I believe a comprimise can be worked out. Here are points, which, if you accept to, you will probably be safe from defeat and from unconditional surrender:
 * 1) First of all, let Germany take the Danzig and other historically German areas from Poland.
 * 2) Give Karelia to Finland
 * 3) Give complete control of Sahkalin to Japan
 * 4) Stop supporting E. Turkestan
 * 5) Give back all Polish territories and let them be.

If you agree, you will be able to save Russia and remain largely in one piece. Decline... and you will lose millions. Imperium Guy 22:24, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Skip out points 2 and 3. You can agree to the remaining points, as if Germany tales control of a few areas, I don't think that's much of a problem. And I don't think the Axis will let you get away wiyh you occupying half of Poland and the Baltics! :P Imperium Guy 07:42, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

==Battle for Earth == Hey, I noticed you wanted to be a mod. You've been accepted, but keep in mind that mod races automatically get hyperdrives, so go ahead and choose a different perk. CrimsonAssassin 14:21, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

About Russia
Hello! Lx, how long are you planning in keep the current status between France and Russia? I mean, when will Paul beocme Emperor of Russia and restore the union. I have some plans about my pseudo-napoleonic war, but I need to know this. Thank you!--Galaguerra1 17:26, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm planning the following:

When the union is restored, Charles-Louis asks Paul for the right to fuse both the russian Senate and the french Parliament. Then he creates a party based in the classism (he was raised in the former american colonies) but more like OTL communism. So he would become the leader of Russia and France, starting a campaign to expand the empire and the ideology. The first movement would be reconquer Haiti, that by the time will be under the government of Faustin I or another tyrant. Then iniciate incorporating other nations. I'm thinking on Vietnam because of the territorial dispte on Furanchesou, or non-classist american states like Újfundlandi or Fjorlaand.

If Paul will die and his son will inherit the throne then is better, Charles-Louis ould be like the de facto Head of Government and the Army.--Galaguerra1 21:56, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm gonna eliminate the clergy from the Parliament, and the nobles will loose their seats too, though they'll keep some importance in french affairs. France will adopt the russian electoral system. The only way to Charles-Louis to win an election of his own is getting russian supporters to his cause, be the regent is always a good point to get monarchists in your side. The weakest parties could make pacts with the classists to get some seats.

Other way is a coup d'état, I just need get a few seats and military victories in Haiti to show the russian people the benefits that the classists could give them, and the party would be accepted a little more. But I want avoid this unless it's necessary.

For last, I can have Charles-Louis as a kind of diarch or vice-chancellor of a russian fake head of the Party who would eventually abdicate giving the whole power to Charles.

If Mesheryakov is shown weaker than Charles-Louis in some random aspect, I could use that to show the classist superiority to his party. The liberals are usually easier to corrupt than the socialists. --Galaguerra1 00:01, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Allies vs Entente
Still in that map game? Just checking. RandomWriterGuy 02:16, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

i saw your map game and i wondered if i could have russia or the ussr

Help!
China is being invaded by Korea and we need your help! We have owned Manchuria for quite a while. Now, in the midst of a civil war, Korea has backstabbed us and invaded us! Please help! CrimsonAssassin 22:37, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Regency
Excuse me, lx, but, when are you planning to kill Paul II and declare Charles-Louis regent? --Galaguerra1 22:57, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies: Reloaded
Things are geting active in Europe and a Latin America a move by the USSR in Axis vs Allies: Reloaded (Map Game) would be much welcomed.90.244.92.200 13:05, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

For the Axis and Allies game (s this the right person to message? I dunno), I wish to be Switzerland. If there's a more complicated process for being ruler of a country, I have no idea. Message me back with the way I should post and stuff. Thanks!Schmittyofwin 16:46, May 5, 2012 (UTC)SchmittyofWin

An offer
I noticed that you really want your land back. Please, don't declare war on Finland. I'll give you most of the Kola and Livonia back. If you want you can have Estonia too (I only want Estonia as they are kinda similar to Finns). But Kaleria has become Finnish/Kalerian Paganist and Shinto and was a part of Finland for so long...

Also, I wanted to plan to get partial revenge against Sweden for what certain things they have done, hence why I want to at least keep Eastern Sweden for a while. I also want to completely keep the upper Northern Scandinavia (the former Swedish upper parts only, mind) since no one really lives there (and are easy to deal with).

So please, don't fight Finland! I will give you a bit more land if that's what you really want.. I also promise to never attack you again and have it call peace. Finland, unlike Sweden, is not aggressive and can get easy along with and friendly... -Kogasa 20:42, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Here you go. This good? -Kogasa 22:48, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

hey its Nkbeeching mind rejoining the axis vs allies reloaded game we could really use the help of the ussr in the new world war thats about to break out it will be more interesting if it breaks out across several fronts.

BFER
If you don't play in Battle for Earth Revised, the mods reserve the right to remove you. SPQR 19:29, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

PM
I highly suggest that you take Vietnamese Ireland. And thank you for the support, PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 19:48, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Right of Usage
Hello Lx,

Recently I have been thinking of using the Alien races in Battle For Earth/Battle For Earth Revised in a timeline on the future wiki that I would make. Since your empire was so important, I was wondering if I could have your permission to incorportate the Azaranian empire into the timeline. You will be credited for it.

Monster Pumpkin 01:32, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

To be fair, it is only about half and half. Part of the timeline is also based on something else. You will get credit, and you might even be able to contribute yourself. :) Monster Pumpkin 02:04, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

I will send you a link when I set it up, lol. More importantly, are there any rules on the future wiki, because I cannot find any.Monster Pumpkin 02:21, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, here is the link to the portal page: Rivalry

Monster Pumpkin 02:43, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Wales has reached an alliance agreement with Berlin. We wish to invade Denmark jointly as well as France in the near future, however we need the support of a major power. Will Russia establish an alliance with Wales. We are already aware of you coziness with Berlin, might you extend us the same courtesy as well as perhaps some military aid when war comes? Andr3w777 19:13, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Do you have any problems with trading some aircraft. My air force is comprised of mostly blimps and older bi-planes. I need serious modernization if I'm to become a Western Power. Andr3w777 19:44, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Very well, the invasion of France wasn't explicitly planned, it was a what if scenario, as for Finland, I didn't pay attention to the map. Make adjustments for the regions you want, we will back you. As previously said we need allies, land is second. We must protect the homeland. We agree with your terms and promise not to attack France or Finland. We wish still to be allied if possible. Also we still would like help in keeping our air force up to date. Andr3w777 20:09, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Can I assume your aid no that I've agreed to your conditions. I will not attack France, doing so will flay me alive. As for Finland, I thought(incorrectly) that you controlled it ergo the red on the map. We WILL NOT ATTACK FINLAND.

PM Invasion
Hey, could you declare war on Denmark to help me? Me (Berlin) and Austria have already declared war with them. If we topple them you can have all the land you want in Scandanavia, I just want the Denmark penisula. EzraNYC 21:00, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

We ask that you decline Berlins offer. We are nearing an agreement on the peace talks and you being thrown into the mix could cause some headaches. Yours is not the only country with a large modern air force... I DO NOT WANT WAR with you as it will destabilize the entirety of Europe. If you would like we will extend an offer to join the European Council as a voting member, and you could help Nippon mediate the peace talks. Andr3w777 12:13, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Bessarabian War
I have an idea for the Bessarabian war. How about you take Bessrabia, which was the cause of the war, and you leave the rest of Danubia alone. I've got a map of the proposed changes made.

Yank 01:23, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

I chose Georgia because I believed that the largest country in the world could easily withstand the loss of a tiny piece of their territory. And it's not like I don't plan to do the same with Vietnam later on in the game.

Yank 03:00, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wales has offered to extend the Welsh Civil Air Fleet or (Welsh AIrlines) to have connected flights with Russian Air, making the first International air travel agreement. Wales offers civilian airbases to help facilitate International Travel. (sort of like OTL Pan Am connecting with other nations carriers) Andr3w777 01:51, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

I meant that they had to stop of course, the first planes capable of such long travel didn'r appear until the late twenties/ early thirties. But yes I do agree. Andr3w777 02:04, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Georgia
I distinctly and directly told you that Russia's only options in the Georgian independence were to let Georgia break away or fight it using an algorithm. When you tried to have it rejoin earlier without an algorithm, I had Kurdistan revolt as a punishment. You ignored that and again attempted to gain it back without an algorithm. Now Kazakhstan is in revolt (a revolt that, like the Kurdish and Georgian ones, you can either grant independence or fight using the algorithm). If you continue to ignore these repeated statements of how the rules of the game work, I will tear Russia apart with revolts. Please pay attention to the numerous warnings of moderators. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:40, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

You changed it so that Georgia, a territory which you have no control over, stopped its rallies for independence, was made to join a union they had no intention of joining, and in the end became in dynastic union with the nation they just broke away from! You lost all of your control over Georgia when they revolted, you cannot say that they decided to join some league or come in dynastic union with Russia. The revolts stand and they will continue to occur if Russia does not accept total Georgian independence, of an independent nation of Georgia that Russia will have no influence over. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:59, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Just let Georgia go normally, they are not going to join your commonwealth even briefly. Just give up and let Georgia go, or attack them. If you let Georgia go or just plain attack them, the other revolts in Russia will stop for at least a couple decades. I don't see why its so hard to understand these options and why you are dragging this out over 4 turns in attempts to get Georgia to stay under Russian influence using other means. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:14, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

OK, I will remove the Kazakh revolt then. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:46, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Greater Europe
Brazil needs you back ;) Come back here . Doctor261  (Talk to Doctor261) 06:30, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

The Pan Celtic Union reqeusts that English be added as a Council lang. Also the PCU would like a more permement spot on the Sec. Council as it did form the EC and mediated in several conflicts Andr3w777 23:28, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I don't like this. Denmark should be on the Security Council? Why? It first proposed the idea of the IL but Russia stole it. I don't like this, and the Asians might not either, because my system was balanced: Denmark, France, PCU, and Russia for Europe and Nippon, Bharat, Brunei, and Vietnam for Asia. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:34, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Russia in PM is Collectivist/Socialist yes? I am curious because if I announce the full transition to a Socialist government I want to be sure I'll have support. Also PCU has lauched their second aircraft carrier.(It was being planned for a while just read past turns.) So now we are equal in air strengthAndr3w777 20:37, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm inviting you to my first map game Operation Red Dawn!Andr3w777 02:33, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

PM islands
You are free to take the patch of islands north of Novaya Zemlya, I'll give it to you next turn. I was going to give it to you earlier, but I seemed to forgot, thanks for reminding me of it. -Kogasa 20:27, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Russian States
I initially hadn't known the borders at all so I just put them allunder Fragmented and called them Russian States. Collie had proposed that they should be made seperate and tried to make a map, but he did tell me he had trouble doing so. Since you know more Russian history than us, you can edit the map as long as you keep the correct style. LurkerLordB (Talk) 12:48, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

The Welsh General Assembly has ruled that Alexi is eligable for the throne of Wales. Right now they are debating about entering the Russian Commonwelath. Wales does not want to lose its national sovreignty and appear weak, but legally the Russian Emperor does have a claim to the throne. So I might allow the joining of Wales as long as we remain independant and are free to choose our own policies(as long as they aren't harmful). I nreal life I love Russia and the history of the Motherland and have allways wanted to rule Russia, but I suppose just having a voice in the Duma is sufficient for now:)Andr3w777 21:26, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Lx, I came here after I saw your post on LLB's page on Russian states. Rest assured as I am working on the maps and Have a good one for Novogrod and Moscovy (yes Novogrod goes to the Urals). I would also like to apologize personally for my behaviour on PM earlier as Sweden and I hope you can forgive me. I also offer you an alliance against Genoa and The Hansa in PMII as we are both powerful trading nations and The Hansa steal your Baltic trade and Genoa takes my Med trade. What do you say? Scandinator (talk) 08:39, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
Things are getting frantic and spicyed up. A move by the USSR is requiered. A space race is on and the Phillopines has been invaded. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Axis_vs_Allies:_Reloaded_(Map_Game)#The_Global_Current_Events 90.244.87.39 13:42, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

It's imperative Axis vs Allies: Reloaded (Map Game).90.244.92.117 01:30, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

An alliance has been offered by my nation, the Eqitorial African Republic, to the USSR!213.232.79.131 12:28, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Scraw and I was wondering if Russia would be willing to partner up in the technological superiority race as well as the space race. Wales, Denmark and Russia- just like old times. It will help us defeat the nussance Asian Alliances and secure our positions in the Global TheatreAndr3w777 (talk) 21:49, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Me and Andrew hatched an idea.

We kill off Russia's Royal family, getting rid of the Emperor, and six children of his. Then we kill off the Emperor's first cousin, next in line for the throne. Let's just say he was with the Royal Family when they perished. So his son, the eighth in line for the throne, is in place, but he abdicates in favor of his younger brother the nninth in line However we kill him too. The tenth in line is a lady, who happens to be the Queen of Denmark, the new Empress of Russia, and the new Queen of Wales.

This is what happened:O

Once a upon a time, the Emperor of Russia, his wife, his cousin and his younger son are visiting a nuclear powerplant. the Plan GOES BOOM! And now the heir to the throne is son of the cousin, who abdicates in favor of his cousin, the Queen of Denmark.

And imagine that, our three nations, the greatest nations of the day, into one nation. We'll screw the rest of the world. We'll make it to the moon, get rid of Wonderlaand, we'll make it Mars! We'll have high speed Maglev trains and nukes, and hbobms, and super sonic commercial airliners, and ' SUPREME TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION!!!!!! '

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 22:46, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * It would be implausible for them to unite into a single nation. Dynastic union and a British Commonwealth-style alliance, coupled with a Euro-styled single currency, is the closest you could get. So pretty much Wales and Denmark would just join the existing Russian Commonwealth.


 * And no one is going to Mars in this map game. LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:13, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * We are talking about three nations entering into one dynastic union. Wales and Russia are one crown, and uniting the Danish crown with them should be fairly easy.


 * Also I don't see why not, technology is two/three years ahead we would be even faster in such stuff, Russia is third in technology is Denmark is practically number one in weapons and space race stuff. We could easily do it in 2010, and get there by 2011. Then we would get back to Earth by 2012 and the last turn. Although I originally said that for emphasis, looking back on it, it is possible.
 * [[Image:IMPERIAL NY-SPQR 1.png|25px]][[Image:Regen Flag.png|30px|border]] Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:19, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lx, this is not about your Emperor becoming my King. This is about my King, who Andrew has said is in line for the Russian throne to become the Emperor of Russia. If you will agree to get rid of everyone in the line of succession above him, he would take the throne and become the ruler of the nations. [[Image:IMPERIAL NY-SPQR 1.png|25px]][[Image:Regen Flag.png|30px|border]] Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:02, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * All of our nations have members that are in line for each others throne. Haarkon is stilll Russian Royalty as much as he is Danish or Welsh. He is leary of joining the Russian Commonwealth in part because of the name, Russian, it would make both our nations look like Russian Vassals versus free nations entering into a legalistic Union. The Commonwealth is more or less the same as what we're proposing, just with a different(and still Russian) ruler, and a different name for it. Each nation isn't loing anything it hasn't already gained. We just become an EU style confederation with the same Royal families. Thing of the OTL Holy Roman Empire. It was a bunch of different nations whom had the same ruler. All nations were still automonous, they just had the same ruler. That is what we are proposing, a joint nation that shall be the envy of the world. All of our nations have unique talents that are massive when combined. If our nations all merge for the lack of a better word. Then we will have Europe eating out of our palm and can compete against the massive Veitnamese and Nipponese Empires. This is the only way Europe will remain the seat of Global power.Andr3w777 (talk) 18:17, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

OK, we have a few options in right now:

A: The succession laws are changed.

B: He renounces all religion (thusly he is not Orthodox, nor from an opposing church)

C: We pass on the throne down sixty-something places to find some person in the Danish Royal Family who is Orthodox. (The King and his immediate family are all Protestant), but I doubt anyone wants to rescind their claim on 60% of the world's land.

or D: The person above the Danish King changes the laws so that his cousin, the King of Denmark can become the Emperor.

I'd choose A or D, but I think D works as a better explanation for A.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:28, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Is it still posible to form the Confedracy of nations Wales mentioned in an earlier post. Remember it will be a meld of all our nations and the Russian Commonwealth into a supranational organizational body in which all have some form of representation. All those details can be fleshed out at a later time. I just want to see the possibility of forming this new Union to combat the growth of the East. All questions are welcome. As I said, it is a rough idea that will need to be streamlined by me, you, and Scraw.Andr3w777 (talk) 02:58, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Very Well, I propose that in 1960 we begin to post small things like. "Russia announces the merging of the Russian, Welsh, and Danish space agencies into one organization" How would we faze in the money and stuff?(I am not fimiliar with how the EU rose to prominince fully)Andr3w777 (talk) 03:38, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

The power of a great mind has Scrawland. In other words, I have the solution. Launch Vostok in January. Thus we will beat Crimsonite China. But put Harald Alexeyevich, a Danish-Russo-Welsh guy in the box. Then victory will be ours! And this is why I don't put dates on things. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:49, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Excalabur is an advanced weaponized space platform for our nukes. It is also a type of SDI(Stratigic Defense Initiative) that will protect our nations from enemy nukes. Sort of like OTL America's Star Wars Program, only we will actually build one. To sum up it would give us space superiority and a strong, safe platform for our weapons as well as portection and a deterrent against our enemies.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:25, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well that's aways good, not having to kill people. Do you know if Nippon and cronies going to attack you or no, all this waiting is suspenseful. As amember of the alliance and the Commonwealth you know where my loyalties lie.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:23, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Great. If we don't have to kill anyone it's even better.

Now then, can you take it your post for the moon and put mine in? I had a plan for our three men to stand on the moon at once, destroy the flag and flagpole of Nippon, and a load of other stuff. That's all I ask. We'll be the third peoples on the moon. (Nippon had two men.) Also, we will avenge ourselves by going to Mars.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:12, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

re:TSPTF
I immensely appreciate this. I am honored to accept this nomination. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 06:04, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ohayo
I have looked at the map, and thought about how you said that you wanted part of Itsaygahi, and after much consideration, I remembered that Russia does have one of the northern states of former Itsaygahi as a puppet state. I had forgotten about this earlier. Thus, if you try and merge that state into Ohayo (the northern Itsaygahi state), in a peaceful manner, that state could indeed join the Russian commonwealth in a few years. LurkerLordB (Talk) 22:38, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Colour
I'm afraid that being the second last nation without a colour is going to work against you. We only have dark red and light red left :S Scandinator (talk) 19:21, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

You have major competition in PMII, there is a Poland-Lithuania, Kalmar Union and Moscovy. Scandinator (talk) 06:11, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Well, speaking of Muscovy...

How about an alliance? You look the other way as I conquer Tver, Rostov, and Yaroslavl, and I'll aid you in any war against the Saami, Khazan Khanate, or Golden Horde. If you agree, I'd also, like to but part of the coastline from you.The Royal Guns (talk) 13:58, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Sounds good. The Royal Guns (talk) 17:21, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

The ottoman empire promisesthat Novrogod will not be attacked if it agrees to stay at peace with the muslim nations and agrees not to join the popes puppet state alliance. We will also resume trade with you and diplomacy. Please accept, DeanSims (Talk)

The ottoman empire accept counter offer and then suggest an alliance to protect bot of our great nations. (DeanSims: Talk)

lol, no need for pressure. I'm doing so anyway.

Noticed one problem, by the way, for both of our nations.

Neither of us has much coastline.

So, my proposal; Poland Lithuania is a practically useless ally to you, and it some what blocks the way to nations on the far side, which have loads of coastline.

So, a swift Coalition war, with both of us expanding.

JUst a suggestion.

The Royal Guns (talk) 21:25, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Ok, sure. Makes no difference to me when it is, as long as it is in the next 15 years. (might even wear off the last 20 years of war).

The federation is a good Idea, we could have Novgorod and Muscovy as the two leading nations- the rest, I suppose, would end up as vassals.

The Royal Guns (talk) 21:39, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

the Ottoman Empire hereby offers troops naval assistance to help take down Poland Lithuania, as the Ottoman Empire wants revenge on that country and Novrogod and Muscovy can annex all of it. (DeanSims: Talk)

SECRET DIPLOMACY
Listen, I know that you had old plans from before the game started. I know that you wanted a Novgorodian Russian Empire. But listen. You're letting Muscovy stop you. You should stop letting youself join Muscovy's wars; you should start your own war and get Moscow to help you. So listen to my plan: Invade the states surrounding Muscovy (if any), and then bolster your military for a few years. Then, you can count on England and Brandenburg helping you when you invade Muscovy. And we'll get other countries to help too. Interested? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:43, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

... Well, that's a bit mean. Muscovy has helped Novgorod, for instance in the Khazan war, and in the Golden Horde war (you'd have lost if Muscovy hadn't sent half their army to aid Novgorod). Also, how the heck is England going to help?

Please, Lx. Listen to the voice of reason (me). Muscovy is not interested in expanding on your territory. We are of far more use to you as allies than as enemies. Especially, if you consider Scraw's idea, remember that Muscovy is more powerful. Muscovy is more interested in Europe. You can have, most of the Sibir Khanate, etc. We muscovites don't care, and will send you at least supplies, if not military aid, in such wars.

The Royal Guns (talk) 14:36, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

If you can get guns off my back I will help you with the hordes and get you both a black sea port by beating the crap out of Crimea. Plus I did leave a message saying I was really busy and that I would try to post more. Think about how I feel, I'm swamped with school work and then the mods launch an invasion on me quickly followed by my allies...AgentMars (talk) 09:58, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

O wow... that was cruel... I never though Scander could do something like that. (BTW, I know Scandi IRL he is usually pretty kind and generous... did you maybe piss him off?) But yea, I dunno how I'm gonna get out of this one like you did... Care to help? AgentMars (talk) 12:23, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

No need to fear, Guns is off his back.

See my plan on his page.

Effectively, the first strike on the Khanate will be on Ruthenia. That land will be granted to Poland (which he still controls).

Next, we strike (possibly with the Caliphate, probably with HRE help) in two direction. You strike the Former Sibir Khanate, I'll take the former Nogai Khante, and Agent destroys the now cut off sections of the Khanate. Meanwhile, the Khanate is collapsing. If possible, the Caliphate strike eastward now, to India, the North. Our armies meet up near tibet, and we finally smash open the Khanate at it's eastern most.

As a result, you will control all the area nesscessary to conquer Siberia, I will have several coastlines, Agent will have loads of territory (more than before the war), and the Caliphate will be unable to attack anyone, as their advantage will expire. At this point, the Christians of all denominations (you can sit this one out if you want) with strike the Caliphate out of the Ottoman empire, restoring the Byzantines- which would be favourable to us, as they are also Eastern Orthodox.

The year is now 1490-95. The Russian Federation (Of P-L (renamed Ruthenia), Muscovy, and Novgorod, plus our vassals) will be formed just about now. We will colonize the New World approx 1520. With fleets in the Black, Baltic, and Med sea, we will have trade with every single European nation. All the vassals (I plan to annex both Yaroslavl and Rostov, then form new ones from the attack on the Khanate) will suipport all the nations during their war.

While we would still be distinct states, all nations would have the right to sends trade, armies, etc through each other with no problem.

What you think?

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:49, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I've a better Idea.

The states remain seperate in name however;

There is an elected (by the three governments) leader over the whole federation.

During any war, all states must send AT LEAST military aid to each other.

The countries will be allowed to send aything and everything over their borders, and can maintain fleets in all seas, thus.

They will colonize seperately.

all vassals must send at least supplies to the leaders of the Federation.

Most of Ruthenia's land will be given back, except for those nesscessary for extended coastlines on the Baltic Sea.

Except for the Calphate, then, the same thing?

Tell Agent, please.

The Royal Guns (talk) 22:17, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'll join the Russian Federation ONLY IF I get to keep all of my pre-war territory and you and Moscovy take none. I will allow Moscovite and Novgorodian use of the Black Sea ports and Baltic Sea ports I have but I don't want to get cut of from the sea. If I don't get all my land back, I'm going to join the HRE and attempt to retake my territory. AgentMars (talk) 05:10, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

And think about it. If I keep all of my pre-war territory then even nation that tries to attack Russia from Europe has to march through thousands of miles of hostile territory to reach you guys... OR anyone that wants to attack Russia gets free transport right up to their border. AgentMars (talk) 05:12, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, come right up. If we keep your territory, we're getting a free couple of million people each. Any way, no one is coming from Europe, Agent. I have ties to practically the entire HRE electorate.

View the message I left on your talkpage. What we are offering you is generosity. You don't stand a chance against both of us combined, and I think we proved that. I'm not giving back ANY land untilm you agree to this plan, and Lx, I recommend you do the same. We don't have to give your land back. We could launch a second war on Poland, and with Brandenburg and Bavaria now BOTH in trade deals with us, we have an extra 8 points a piece for nothing (As Brandenburg has Aragon and Navarre).

Don't threaten us. I will take some of your territory, in order to conquer those two NPC nations (Lx, you can have the majority). It isn't a huge amount, maybe 10- 20% at the most. You still keep most of your territory, and much more, because you get most of Ruthenia.

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:25, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Agent clearly isn't giving in this way...

I have a plan, check out Andr's talkpage. The Royal Guns (talk) 23:26, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

All I want is to keep all my land as it was before you two attacked me. 10-20% of Lithuania is HUGE. Guns I'm not threatening you. I'm saying I could be the equivalent of the Eastern bloc in the Cold War as the biggest and best Buffer state to Russia. Generosity you think you are offering, but look at it from my point of view. I was mericlessly backstabbed AFTER I asked for help... and between you, the mods and the caliphate I've lost half of Lithuania. Is that generousity? AgentMars (talk) 02:00, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

The only territory I will be willing to give up is anything in OTL Russia or the Eastern third of OTL Ukraine (draw a line from St Petersburg to the western part of the Sea of Azov I will give up everything east of it as I will lose it anyway in the late game). Belarus is not Russian dominated and the Belorussians are closer to the Lithuanians than the Russians. I have a plan to develop them into their own state of Ruthenia if you would allow me to do so. I have left a map to make things easier. NOTE I suck at drawing maps. Poland remains untouched, Lithuania gives up its eastern half, Ruthenia will be OTL Belarus and under my control. the Western part of Ukraine and the rest of Lithuania will eventually split into Lithuania and another name. I allow Guns the use of Lithuanian Crimea coast and we wait till the collapse of the Caliphate to strike. AgentMars (talk) 15:03, October 4, 2012 (UTC)



Also I am unsure how much territory the Caliphate holds in Lithuania but I assume it is the southern third which means we gotta work together with no hard feelings. I am merely being demanding as otherwise you two would walk all over me... And I just want to have a little fun... I never asked for the mods, and then you guys and now the Caliphate............................. trust me, Sweden was easier than this.... AgentMars (talk) 15:10, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

I told you my mapmaking skills sucked. Just get scandinator to draw out OTL Belarus and half of Ukraine. Thats what I keep. Also when you invade Prussia, can I take the rest of OTL Lithuania? AgentMars (talk) 02:13, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

What is the Russian Federations desires on Prussia? As you know, that is a historically German state. Is it possible that you all nor seize Prussia as I would have it a part of the HRE as we are German and share more in common then you all. Also it gives us more coastline. As you are allies, I wanted to know your stance on a potential Prussian occupation. I had planed an HRE occupation for the afore stated reasons.Andr3w777 (talk) 03:39, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

So I saw on the GRF page.

The Royal Guns (talk) 21:18, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Naples Problem
This could be a problem...

''Si el HRE te ataca, te puedo defender, si el Caliphato me da permiso. Digame si ellos te dan mas problemas.Saamwiil, the Humble 22:26, October 10, 2012 (UTC)''

"If the HRE attacks you, we can defend you, if the Caliphate gives me permission. Tell me if they give you more problems."

That's the advantage of taking Spanish, lol.

anyways... just thought you should know. If this gets hot, who will we support? I presume the HRE, but frankly, that would screw with our plans for the next 15 years, especially since the last 15 years have majorly taxed us and now we are invading Prussia...

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:18, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Still... if the HRE falls, we're next on the list. It's like that story of a man living in Nazi Germany:

When the came fore the Jews, I said nothing, for I was not a Jew.

When they came for the Gypsies, I said nothing, for I was not a Gypsy.

When the came for the Communists, I said nothing, for I was not a communist.

When the came for the Turks, I said nothing, for I was not a Turk.

But when they came for me, there was no-one left to speak out on my behalf.

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:10, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, yeah.

In any case, the Caliphate is due to collapse fairly soon compared to the HRE.

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:11, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Map Games Wiki
Well, I'm not suggesting that people just stop using this wiki. But it would make things a lot easier, because this wiki has very, very, very little 'legislation; on map games. Everything is left up to the discretion of mods. For instance, There should be a way to prevent edit wars and the like on map games. This wiki doesn't have that, because of two reasons:

A) the established TSPTF leadership is, for very good reasons, comprmised of people who rarely play map games, focusing more on actual althistory. Makes sense: this is an althistory website.

B) The above are the only people who can change or add rules- and for the above very good reason, they won't.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, most serious users of this wiki have both althists and map games. So it won't detract from althist, except for around 5-6 people who don't add any althistory anyway.

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:16, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

can you make a map for Entente vs. Triple Allinace (Map Game) and get more players. Warman555

Russian Federation
Sorry I was gone for the last few days- Hurricane Sandy and all that.

I noted that we don't have a Tsar at present. I'm planning to have Ivan die soon, so how about we say he's been Tsar all this time, and then Novgorod will get the Tsardom, then Poland (anyway, it doesn't matter- unlike the Caliphate, we're not RPing)

Next, about that treaty with the Caliphate, We won't violate it until something serious is going to happen. Maybe we should set down when we'll intervene so that we can all do it quickly when s*** starts to happen?

Probably not going to do so for quite some time, but still. Better to be prepared.

The Royal Guns (talk) 22:58, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hello its AP! Just checking up on my Russian friends and checking in with certain things. 1) We are allied right? 2) I see there's some issues with the Kola Peninsula. There really is no way for Russia to expand into that region since our border is at Lake Onega(we need a proper border treaty) btw this is repeated statement lol sorry i wrote it on the game's main page. 3) Since we are allies(at least thats how i remember it) lets share our ideas/plans. Us Northern Europeans gotta stick together right xD? AP (talk) 08:11, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

In regards to the Saami, sorry. I'll stop their expansion into the peninsula out of good will but i see no use for it, then again it is your decision if you want to have a Russian exclave there.AP (talk) 18:55, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hey. Russia is invited to discuss colonial division of Antillia with the Romans.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:27, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Game talk page. Now.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:40, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Rallying up
Hey Lx! Funny how in the first PM, we were in a cold war, yet in the second one I have come to ask for help. I will need your and the Russian Confederation's help in the defence of Hindustan and in turn Central Asia from the Cahpilate. They have made their intentions clear about wanting to expand and consuming nations. I believe if we can stop them from invading Ethiopia and Hindustan, we can end them getting their way again. I am sure the Russian populace would still have a slight thirst for revenge, as the Hindustanis have a lot after their defeat at the hands of the Cahpilate and Bengal. I seriosly hope you take my plea into consideration. Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:28, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Lx. I will be gone today and tomorrow. Will you please post for Scandinavia? Just write that the Huron war continues and that the colonies expand by their apportioned 1000 sqkm. I'm pretty sure i can trust you; the last person I asked to take care of my nation ended up making me lose huge holdings and becoming a junior partner in a personal union!AP (talk) 18:13, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. I've been talking to Imp, and this looks like the best oppurtunity we're ever going to have to prematurely screw over the Caliphate. Over the next ten years, we're talking about two wars at once, and a few conversations with the HRE will make that a 3 way war.

Pros: Russian Intervention against the Caliphate will most likely bring them to their knees. In addition, we will have complete control over the Black Sea and Central Asia. Also, in 20-30 years, the Mahdi will take over, Ethiopia will be defeated, and Hindustan will be weakened. This is the only chance for 80 years we'll get.

Cons: they already don't trust after the Great Holy War, and I don't want that kind of reputation (as people who you cannot make Nonaggression pacts with). IN addition, the Caliphate have already proven themselves to be tough buggers, and if they survive this then the Mahdi will rain so much vengence on us, it'll make WWII look like a water gun fight.

My thinking is that we should leave it be, but clearly indicate support for the anti-Caliphate elements, including advising them, but do not interfere unless the death of the Caliphate is a sure thing, or the complete steamrolling of the anti-Caliphate elements is assured, in the former we aid to get a piece of the pie and to aid the allies, and in the latter to ensure that we ourselves are not threatened.

Either way, start prepping. The 20 year plan for the conquering of Central Asia can wait, I guess, in order to stock up on Economy and military and infrastructure bonuses.

The Royal Guns (talk) 01:04, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to try and get Novograd involved in a war of Hindustan against Bengal. I only want the Russians to be there with a presence so the cahpliate does not expand eastward. That would be it, to stop any cahpliate states from aiding Bengal altogether. I hope you understand my view and, you know, expand military and stuff. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:23, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Wait and watch. But be ready. The Caliphate isn't falling, here, I was wrong. But this could turn into a massive loss.

The NA pact has expired this year. We have that justification, anyway.

If we do enter the war, it should be after quite some time. But Bavaria has refused to war on the Caliphate, so we're majorly screwed. The HRE is not behind us, unless Milan joins in. The Royal Guns (talk) 23:45, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

War's over. We didn't move fast ebnough, HRE still hasn't completed the vote. Ethiopia is next, Hindustan has lost. Next time, we need to get better communication.

I'm restarting the 20 year plan, but this time I'm going south, all the way to North India, past East of the Caspian. You continue East, get Siberia./ The Royal Guns (talk) 19:36, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Break
Thanks for taking care of Scandinavia! Not a scratch on it! You are now my go-to person for these things(even though it doesnt happen often)!AP (talk) 01:15, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Lx. I need you to take care of Scandinavia again! It's just till saturday, I'm going to Mexico for a few days. Just copy and paste my previous posts. Respond to things as you see fit or as you would think that I would. A special post only for 1529: Establish Smalnar(Montreal, area conquered from the Hurons) as an exclave of Nya Danmark. Thanks again. If you cannot, please forward this to Callumthered.AP (talk) 06:20, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, and I need you to take care of Muscovy and Poland tomorrow, and possibly Saturday too.

Oh, and for Poland, I've established a colony on the Coast of OTL Ghana, called Aukso Zeme (Lithuanian for Golden Land)

If you could do something similar for Muscovy... The Royal Guns (talk) 12:28, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Apocalypse:2012
Basically I wish to make a post-nuclear war world with the nuclear war occurring on 21/22 December 2012. Would you be interested in finding sites in Russia and Eastern Canada that would be likely to have been hit if nuclear war occurred? And then you would also be in charge of organizing the states that emerge there after the war. Scandinator (talk) 23:58, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

PMII Expansion
Hey, Lx, in PMII, you're expanding into the territory I claimed in the Treaty of Berlin. You can keep what you already have, but in the future, would you keep to the treaty please? CourageousLife (talk) 17:34, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

I believed that it was the Rio Grande too. I'll talk to the mapmakers about it. Sorry for the trouble. CourageousLife (talk) 00:29, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

A2012
Are you still in? If so, could we all have a meeting on the Talkpage, to get the timeline going? The apocalypse has occurred! The Royal Guns (talk) 20:55, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
I've had it up to here with the bloody Caliphate. That said, I do have a plan. We're coming back in 1576, so at 1570 and onwards, we'll start up a rebellion, led by relatives of the royal family, in Poland, Muscovy, and Novgorod. In 1576, with the Caliphate armies in disarray, we rebel, become our normal selves, then with the fervour of the rebelling, we plunge deep into their territory, drive them out of the Black Sea. After this, we expand out east a bit, then come back to hammer the remanants. Finally, around 1600-10, we crusade one last time aginst them bastards. Basically, them invading us was a bloody gift. Let's use it!

Thoughts? The Royal Guns (talk) 21:16, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

^Agree to keep quiet until 1576 and you won't have any more problems from me. My new nation will not be interested in a new caliphate, religion or anything. I do think that plan's timeline is a bit short though plausibility wise. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:01, January 2, 2013 (UTC)\

Lx. Seriously. Need you onboard for this! The Royal Guns (talk) 00:34, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Saw your post. Thanks. Now, I was thinking (for the hellfire, retribution, and damnation stage of the above) that we should have three 'crusades'.

Crusade the First (Codename: Hellfire); Launched by the civil war in Poland (which was forced on us by mods) secessionists versus federationists. Russia launches massive intervention there, Federationsists win, Moldovia reannexed, along with Caliphial Europe.

Crusade the Second (Codename: Damnation); The attack on Central Asia. We pick up the parts we lost in the invasion, as well as the Caliphial provinces there such as Mangystau, and so on, getting much of that.

Crusade the Thrid (Codename: Retribution); The attack on the Caliphial successor states that form. not all of them; Fed's will be pro-West, apparently, and I'm trying to get a sort of alliance with Von's- but Saam's and Dean's are wide open, so let's hit them both! Dean's should be easier, and I think we can get Venice in that too. And if Von agrees, we'll hit them on all sides.

Thoughts? The Royal Guns (talk) 01:20, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

1573? That'll take them in the middle of their most powerful stage- they'll crush us. I recommend 1575, really. With  the initial insurrection starting earlier. The Royal Guns (talk) 01:21, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Russia
I've resigned from PMII, so you now control both Muscovy and Novgorod. If the game survives, well, then Russia might once again be a great state.

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:31, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Are you still playing PMII? If so, i'd like to coordinate a united foreign policy for Northern Europe. Also, you haven't expanded your colonies in a while... Can we purchase them if you're no longer interested?AP (talk) 21:16, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Brandenburg offers a higher price for your Canada colony, and offers to help sell your Texas colony. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:20, January 19, 2013 (UTC)