User talk:Bobalugee1940

Nominations
Just wanted to leave you a note about Featured Timelines. While I like your enthusiasm, in the future it would benefit us all if you compared the timelines you think are good enough to nominate to the ones that have already been featured before nominating them, and comparing how well-written and complete they are. Have a good day. Lordganon 21:13, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

West Florida (Red Victory)
First, please sign your name when leaving messages on talk pages. All you have to do is add ~ to the end of your text, or you can hit the signature button in the edit box. It is rude not to sign your messages.

Second, it is not my TL. I only edited it once to correct issues with the naming conventions. The actual creator Riley.Konner. Usually to find out who created a TL/article, click on the history tab and see who created the TL/article. Mitro 14:02, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Picture
Well, I found it when searching for a ganon avatar a few years back - been my handle for a long time - if you google for "ganonplush" it'll be the first one on the list, from zeldauniverse.net. Lordganon 12:15, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Don't worry, Boba. Just ask me first before using, OK? :) Fed (talk) 03:33, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Travel (Map Game)
Uhhh, Bob, that's a defunct map game. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 18:08, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Adopting
Thought I'd point out that IP 72.78.46.192 is the creator of that timeline, the other guy is not. Lordganon 02:24, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

1983DD "edits"
I don't pay much attention to "badges," but I do get email when certain main pages are altered. It would seem that you have violated the spirit of the "law" when it comes to getting credit for 1983DD edits. All you seem to do is cut and then paste back paragraphs on these pages. The software counts that as "edits" and you get your badge. Somehow, I don't think that was what the creator of the "awards" system had in mind. We welcome constructive edits (grammar and spelling of otherwise good articles especially!) but the "cut&paste" trick doesn't earn you much respect. SouthWriter 16:51, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Quite. Don't do it again. Lordganon 18:56, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

South tends to reply to anything written on his wall by responding there, so that may be how you miss a reply. Lordganon 15:24, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do tend to respond to posts where they are posted. However, I just checked the history of my talk page and there was nothing from you there. I don't know what happened, for I check every post to pages I follow. I follow this page, since I made a response on it. I wish you the best in your adventures in alternate history. I just thought I'd give you a friendly admonition about the posts. Since the changes are to a page I monitor regularly, I open the page to see what changes were. Since the "changes" were not real changes, I had wasted my time, that's all. SouthWriter 16:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

US Civil War Map Game
You still playing? VonGlusenburg 12:16, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing which would convince you to re-join the game? VonGlusenburg 12:30, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries mate, I was hoping you were gonna say Rebelsolider's implausabilities made you quit, since he's been banned now. NVM thenVonGlusenburg 19:58, April 16, 2011 (UTC).

States of America 2 Map
The states colored in blue is Oregon. I control Washington. CheesyCheese 14:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

States of America 2
When I made my FSA page I used a copy of the Virginia page as a guide. I hope that the CRA and FSA will be good friends with your nation.

Bill

FSA vs the Confederacy
The FSA is ready to give up Kentucky to the Confederacy if the Confederacy is willing to give something in reture (such as a treaty of alliance).

I would be sad to fight the Confederacy and I think it would be best for both of us to make peace as your nation has a strong and veteran army and mine has a larger population and industrial base.

Bill

The Phoenix Summit (1)
I think that we could unite are forces with the FSA providing the industrial support the Confederacy the troops.

With these forces we can invade North Carolina and Virginia.

I am sir yours truly

Bill Potter

The Phoenix Summit (2)
I have always been a fan of the CSA and of the Poirot and I hope that we may form an alliance sothat we may remain strong against an potential invasion from the Japs, or the Soviets, or the Nazis.

Bill

Communist Virginia
The communist takeover of Virginia must not be allowed to stand. If you are willing to join in an invasion I will join with the full power of the FSA and the CRA. As a bonus if you will aid me in destroying this communist pocket, I will concede Kentucky to you.

Bill

The Virginians have done nothing to you. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose in the business of a sovreign nation? The Communists revolted for one reason. And that's because their leaders were greedy, abusive bastards.

Yank 02:45, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Game Restart
Don't worry pal, next time we will do better and we might even reform the USA.

I look forward to it.

Bill

Nation Infoboxes
To get a nation infobox without the name of the article at the top you need to enter something in the "name" field. If you don't it just defaults to the article name.Oerwinde 07:46, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

States of America 2
I will trade you the CRA if you will aid me in any wars I fight to gain territory, and we can divide the conquered area.

Bill, 15:15 (EST), May 11, 2011

Who Created 1983DD
I saw your post on various talk pages. It was an anon who created 1983DD. You can read about it here. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 04:21, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Quite. On another note, please quit leaving questions on Mitro's talk page - he's gone, remember? Lordganon 12:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I am not good with templates I am trying to make a portal template for Return of the Kennedys can you help? Alexanders 01:12, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Confederation of States
Not looking too bad so far. Biggest problem I see is that the state order you have listed on the page makes no sense - have a look at a map, and think about it a while.

Yeah, Mitro's been gone a while - touch surprised you didn't know. If you have any questions that you'd have left for him, just send'em my way.

Lordganon 07:47, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, are you still going to be in Invasion: 1950? Azecreth 16:34, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

SIADD
Bob, please actually look at the timeline next time before nominating it. It's already a featured one. Lordganon 10:09, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

It was removed because it passed. It's no longer nominated, but featured. Lordganon 11:23, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

National Info Box
"CoG" stands for "Chief of Government."

A Head of state is someone in some sort of authority over the CoG, be it nominal or real. Examples include the Queen of the UK, who is nominal, and the President of France, who while "real" is also in several ways "nominal." In other countries, this person exercises real power, controlling the state. In other cases, foremost the USA, there is no real difference between the two, for Congress as a whole acts as the CoG.

A Chief of Government, depending on the HoS, may hold authority, and may not. Usually, this position is a Prime Minister of one sort or another. Ones with nominal power, for example, are those in most dictatorships, and examples of real power ones are Canada, the UK, and Germany.

Lordganon 21:46, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Middle Eastern Monarchies
Really, there is no "good" way. The monarchies have always been opposed to one another, being of different clans and Muslim sects, and won't even intermarry. There's virtually no way that this could possibly end up being changed, especially in your time frame. Lordganon 01:16, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

There's really no way to do it. The Middle East is just too divided for anytime like that to be remotely possible - even your Jordan-Iraq thing doesn't make any sense. About the most you could hope for is the Arab League being a touch more unified, between the EU and where it is today, but even that really isn't possible. Lordganon 04:25, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Adopting Timelines
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_History:Adoption_Policy

Lordganon 01:04, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Map Game
No, not feasible at all. We'd have to make an entire new layout for the main page, for starters.

Past that, we've got more than two dozen good timelines on this wiki, but only a tiny number of map games that are worth anything. And only a couple active ones, which is even worse.

Also, the wiki is actually held in contempt in some corners because of those games. Now, I have nothing against them myself, but why on earth would we do this and make that problem worse?

Lordganon 05:39, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Map Game
No, I'm afraid not. Too much to do around here as it is for me, and that's not the kind of map game I like either, lol. Lordganon 06:04, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Peak Oil (Map Game)
Would you like to join the map game i made? octiman10 23:21, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

States of America 2 (Map Game)
You have to spend the time you would have need otherwise to conquer them. Lordganon 08:34, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

New TL
Not possible.

For starters, the USA and Canada have been intertwined for so long now that it's disturbing. There is no way on earth that a plague could do that in the US but not in Canada to at least some degree.

Ignoring that, for refugees to do that, the situation would have to be really bad. The US population, by my guess, in order for that to occur, would have to drop down to levels that are more or less Canadian. Maybe double at most. And, the Brits would have got it too, though maybe not as bad if it came from the Americas. Add to that that the Canadian government would forcefully turn back these disease-ridden people from entering. And aside from the Buffalo, Sault Ste Marie, north of Seattle, and Detroit regions, it'd be easy to do - no nearby large population numbers, and cold wilderness between populations and the border.

Again, ignoring that, the Brits, with the USA vastly weakened - and with Commonwealth support, which they would get to some degree, behind them - would win in basically any scenario like that. Of course, the Soviets would get to them long beforehand, but you wanted to know about the Brits, lol.

There's no best time, really.

Lordganon 04:42, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I should add, too, that the American refugees would be vastly outnumbered by the Canadians. There's no way that they would possibly have the numbers to manage anything of that nature, lol. Lordganon 04:50, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Flintlock Forever
Well, you're still going to have a successor to the Flintlock. We're both aware that it lasting for ever is just not happening, lol. Can't find another competing method to the PC off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure there is one.

Look for ward to seeing how the Native part effects things. Like I said, I think that should be the PoD, it alone makes the timeline interesting, lol.

Too much to do, I'm afraid. But I'll offer advice and answer questions readily. All you have to do is ask. But I'm sure you already knew that, lol.

Lordganon 05:49, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer
Thanks for the offer to join your map game but I got my hands full at this time.

Thanks again,

Bill

Pirates
Really, pirates are far too factionalized for anything of the the sort to be possible. And, by nature of their activities, governments tend to take a..... violent and conquering approach to pirate bases.

The only historical example that had any kind of neutrality is Île Sainte-Marie, of the coast of Madagascar, which operated as a neutral, safe, base between pirates. By remaining hidden and small, it did last for quite some time, but it was never more than a base to them. If it had become more, I guarantee you that it would have been snuffed out, being so close to trading routes.

Nearby, there has been stories about a pirate colony called "Libertatia" in 17th Century Madagascar for ~25 years, being crushed by natives at the end. While it is possible that it may have existed, it is highly unlikely. The stories are full of facts known to be 100% false, and are not consistent in themselves - which, being written by one person, makes no sense. A large portion of scholars consider the entire thing to be a story, and nothing more, written by the English writer, Daniel Defoe, the author of Robinson Crusoe, under a pseudonym, Captain Charles Johnson. Most of the rest consider it to not be written by Defoe, but fictional regardless.

Pirates were nothing like the few shown in movies and books. Note that I have had a course in this, lol. Barbarossa from PotC is probably the closest to what they really were, though even he is too pleasant. They were ruthless, violent, and incapable of getting along for long periods. While the notion of them making a nation may sound good in theory, in reality it's just not possible.

Lordganon 06:18, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much all other pirates were protected, as privateers, by one government or the other, at the time. Port Royal has been destroyed multiple times by earthquakes too, and was the seat of the British Governor/Government of Jamaica. Almost all pirate "nests" were more or less the same thing.

Actually Bob, from what I gather, they were using naval guns. But, even if they were not, as a general rule, fortified cities and the like had far larger cannons on their own than any ship. Also, pirate ships were smaller, and with weaker armament, than an average warship - the largest pirate warships were about the size and capability as frigates, at best. And, not the American "super-frigates" like the Constitution, either - regular ones from elsewhere, which weren't armed with anything higher than a 12-pounder, normally, and 24-pounders on occasion later on. Applying naval guns to Sale wouldn't make any real difference, and it's more than likely that's what they did otl anyways. When you see references to naval guns being used, it refers to ones larger than 24-pounders, which outside of the "Super-frigates," were only found in large fortresses and ships of the line, neither of which pirates would have in their possession or access to unless they got lucky enough to steal them, which is basically impossible because of the size of the things. Nor can pirate ships actually hold the things - more or less, it's a question of weight, being that their ships would sink if they tried to put it on board at all.

Sale existing at all is a fluke. Basically, during a period of anarchy, pirates took control of a small area of Morocco. And, in the end, like I said, the pirates - note, these are actually Berber corsairs, which the pirates that you're mostly talking about would have nothing to do with - would turn on themselves, fighting a civil war until the Sultan just sent his forces through and broke it up. Nor is there anything that says the Sultan was actually in charge of said forces when Sale was declared, nor would he have been close enough to battle to have even the slightest chance of getting hit.

Even if they killed the Sultan, all that would happen is the chaos they set themselves up in lasts longer. Either the next Sultan once things are secure, or more likely a European power - have a look at what they did to the Barbary pirates every so often - would destroy them. Same result pretty much anywhere.

Given the nature of pirates, the idea is pretty much impossible. Virtually every pirate attempt at a stateish thing like that ended up with them fighting and it failing.

Lordganon 17:50, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

American Empire
Write it? The only thing I've done to that ASB trash is undo vandalism.

It being by an anon doesn't matter. It is still the work of another. You cannot do any of what you just described to it.

Lordganon 07:24, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Improper Nomination
First off, no cursing. Just because you don't say the letters and do symbols instead does not mean you didn't say it. That's a warning.

Second, have a look at it. You did not copy and paste the entire thing, and it was pretty obvious. You new nomination is more proper, and shows that you noticed part of the errors. So don't complain to me when you obviously noticed where you got it wrong. Now, I've reverted it again, because you still have failed to do it properly. And it's pretty obvious.

Lordganon 04:12, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't consider it worth nominating. While there is a lot of articles, have a look at what they are saying. Doesn't amount to much of anything, to be honest. Lordganon 08:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Look, LG, I am not sure what the stink is about. I am not privy to the 'cursing' (string of generic symbols, I guess) but the nomination was sufficiently correct. The link works and Bob's opinion is added. The fact the that he typed the part under the nomination rather than copy and paste meant that the format came out wrong, and that could have been easily fixed. To follow the rule of format to the letter is petty. Bob had the lines in place, they just weren't indented and highlighted. But instead you say, "you did not copy and paste the entire thing" and insult him ("it was pretty obvious"). It would help if there were an actual "sample nomination" to go by. Then we'd know what it looks like.

I am going to change the "Sample Nomination" to look like it is supposed to, that way an editor will know that his format is acceptable by simply previewing it before publishing. Also, I will revert the nomination, in the correct format so others can proceed to judge it on its merits. --SouthWriter 16:16, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, at least with me. I just put your nomination back up. I hope it does well, but I have not evaluated it yet, so I'm not promising anything beyond this. SouthWriter 16:58, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I have not been insulting once. Fact of the matter is that Bob got the format wrong, and that means it is an improper nomination and must be removed. Lordganon 17:57, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope. Not once, but twice. I was obvious that Bob had a blind spot (he changed the all caps back to the regular text).  You repeated the implied insult at the end.  It was not an out-and-out insult, but it was most certainly "talking down" to Bob.  The line about format should not be taken so literally, LG.  The format as he put it in was functional, if not technically correct.  If it had been like some in the past, it would not have had the headings at all.  Those were not useful to novices, so the line about format was added.  Cut and paste works well, but some people never get the hang of it (my wife and my mother both use old- fashioned 'backspace and replace,' for instance).  I guess what I am saying is, don't be so hasty to jump on these things.  Stop and look at it from the other guy's point of view.  SouthWriter 18:19, August 6, 2011 (UTC)