User talk:Detectivekenny



Tripartite Civil War
Sounds a great potential timeline. Wondering how you envisage the histories of the Egyptian Empire and Azteca? Perhaps the point of divergence in this history needs to be earlier? And would you like a collaborator?

Seamus The Barbarian 00:18, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Two things: 1. Yes, the Arovians accept the trade agreement. 2. Polotics do not mean much in a way to E.T.L (extra terrestrial life) but thye will interfere with it, you see, in a way peaceful alien nations or neutral Alien nations still need alliances and the only thing keeping the America-Arovian alliance alive is that, thanks to this alliance, the Arovians have millitary bases and land; I think i is better said like this - " Through diplomacy, world powers are formed" BlackSkyEmpire 08:09, January 18, 2011 (UTC)BlackskyEmpire

Pricipia moderni
I'm responding to confirm that i'm going to be an active player. Destroyanator 01:42, January 20, 2011 (UTC) Yes, I'm gonna be an active player.--Fedelede 01:51, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

I am indeed active and ready to play. BoredMatt 02:02, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

I am looking forward to another great map game! CrimsonAssassin 02:05, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Confirming Here!Baconton 11:21, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

The Aztecs are ready. Can I be confirmed as the Leader of the Aztecs?

The Aztec have taken over most of Mexico and they taken Baja California and Florida. In the map you put me as a tiny little city. I demand the Aztecs be given the amount of territory then they posses.Devil Warrior 19:54, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry that it may seem like i am ignoring your post on my talk page however unless you want me to re-do every single one of my turns then there is nothing I can do.Devil Warrior 16:55, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Confirming my activity Cloudslayer 01:57, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hola, DK. For the next map, could you please add only the lower (original) part of Burgundy, specified in this map, as it seems the rest has been already claimed. Thank you very much. SSS (About Me - Contact) 19:07, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I guess both of them. Oh, that means I asked Woogers for the Duchy, cause the County seems to in the "unclaimed" part. If there's no problem, I'd like both parts. Thanks. SSS (About Me - Contact) 22:14, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe my claims were too much (this is Cosman246, who is too lazy to log in), but independence and thirty years is, IMO, too far. 66.235.60.26 06:52, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I see your point. I'll stop claiming control over them, though I would like to keep a port of trade somewhere66.235.60.26 14:45, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join the Principia Moderni Map Game? How do I get in? Are they any free countries? Sorry, I'm kind of new to the map games...ZagoriaZagoria 02:39, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll stop. Sorry. Cosman246 01:32, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

hello, detectivekenny. my name is janusary and i am a racially-distinct member of a prolific barbarian tribe situated many moons 'to the West'. i would greatly appreciate an opportunity to participate and would gladly start with any location you deemed appropriate. thanks for your consideration. Janusary 23:54, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make Your Nation Map Game
Actually it is not active, only 2 people are playing.

PitaKang 01:54, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Um...Explain yourself please. BlackSkyEmpire 23:07, January 21, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

Here:


 * Millitary Tech: Anti-Mech virus chips, 3 new Dreadnaughts (airships)


 * Transportation: Unsure as of now


 * sorry, but Im a little busy at the moment but I will respnd more..and give you more details on the tech. BlackSkyEmpire 23:25, January 21, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

British Isles Map Game
Kenny, I was wondering if you would like to join this game I made, set during the late dark ages in Britain and Ireland. Feel free to join, just follow the rules. We'll be starting next Friday.

BoredMatt 17:11, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Principia Map Game
I'm wondering where you got that map I've been looking for a map like that for a long time, one that completely fills in without any white parts. PitaKang 01:33, January 25, 2011 (UTC) Detective, I think your colonization order is wrong. It's unrealistic to have the colonization time by alphabetical order. Fedelede 01:51, January 28, 2011 (UTC) How's about northern Morocco? About 500 miles from Toledo. Also yeah, that is a kinda strange colonization order. Woogers - talk 02:18, January 28, 2011 (UTC) That's still not a good idea. Like, that means the navally under-developed Mamluks will colonize before the great colonizer of Portugal. No sense. Fedelede 02:25, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Kolkata
Alright, sounds reasonable. I am mainly interested because I have family in the Bihar-Jharkhand area, and the colonization seemed like it would generate an interesting mesh of cultures. So yeah, I can move a bit west. Cosman246 06:00, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Alliance? Cosman246 06:04, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we might want to colonize them. If so, I'd like Brandenburg and Northern France :D Cosman246 06:09, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

I read the rules. I said that Portugal could not COLONIZE before the Mamluks. Read my post. --Fedelede 13:12, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Seems like a fair system to me. BoredMatt 00:07, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Alliance with Kernow
Care for one? Collectively, we'd be the unstoppable force of the South. I assure that countries taken over will be divvied up in your favor. Something like two-thirds of what we gain goes to you. ;) 19:56, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion
If possible, I need to talk to you about a few things on the outside channel. Sometime in the next half hour, if possible, if not, anytime after an hour and a half from now. Woogers - talk 15:27, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

In Principia Modernii, are actual explorers of the period allowed as explorers in the map game? Woogers - talk 07:59, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ciao Mr Kenny,

You are a very active user, and I must say, you are very good at these kind of games. I have a plan to take Lombardy and Pedimont, but I must deal with my nations own problems first. So, in times of millitary expansion, Genoa asks you that we import whatever you want from our Exports (See Genoa (Principia Moderni) for full list) and in return you give us a nice little sum of money. This trade will happen every two months, and both of our nations could benefit. Tell me when you are ready.

Grazie, Cloudslayer 06:49, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

(Sorry, mylambisblue is used for Novelas)

DK, can you get to our "regular meeting point"? There are things I want to discuss with you. SSS (About Me - Contact) 02:25, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Map
Ciao di nuovo, I don't want to sound rude, but could you make me a map of these places as one?


 * OTL Liguria


 * OTL Aosta Valley


 * OTL Piedmont

I would really apprecitate it. I have plans for these reigons with Genoa. Grazie, Cloudslayer 05:35, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies (Map Game)
Hey DK, I'm wondering if you want to join in the Axis vs Allies (Map Game), a map game created by me. It's based on the Second World War, in 1933 when Hitler has just taken power. Thanks! PitaKang 00:37, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Pocecíns? Perdón, pero que es Pocecíns? Fed (talk) 19:10, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, claro. Fed (talk) 19:18, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Axis members
I believe BSE is signed up for Germany and Fedelede is signed up for Italy. Thank you for signing up for the Axis vs Allies (Map Game) PitaKang 23:06, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies (Map Game)
The Map Game is starting now. Have a great map game! PitaKang 23:10, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hey... keep going with the whole Malaysian conflict...it seems to be leading to a World War!! I'll have malaysia give up against you, though. Batmanary

No...I keep Tenasserim and Pegu...you get the whole of Malaysia... plus in reality the allies so far are only the US and India, and maybe Britain... Italy is allied with you, which means indirectly that East Cuba is and Germany, who are heavyhitters...plus you can always expand in French Indochina and China proper, which is in the warlord era, so heavily disunited.

Lots... seriously though you also have the Dutch East Indies...Use your geographical placement...you can become a naval power... plus French Indochina isn't a mountainous wasteland...it gives you ports in the sea... and imagine holding Hong Kong, which is important for Britain?

It's non-negotiable...plus you now have malaysia which gives you another port to the indian ocean and if you capture Indonesia, you control the whole strait of Malacca...

Moderators
I'm not sure that Cosman, even though he's the creator, should be a mod. He's been showing severe implausibility as his nation, Japan, and I think that even though he's the creator, he should only be an assisstant until we can determind that he is a plausible, rational person. Also, then what can the assisstant moderator do? PitaKang 00:41, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hey DK, I think Cosman should not be a mod for these reasons:


 * 1) Displays severe implausibility on map games, including this one


 * 1) He's only been here since June, but has only made 56 edits


 * 1) Has no active TLs, only plays Map Games


 * 1) Seems to not know some basics on History and Sciene

Thanks! Here are my reasons. Please respond ASAP. PitaKang 01:30, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

PS could you check on my Seoul article for Doomsday and give me some feedback? Thanks!

WOW
I still can't belive you're Alex..... PitaKang 16:01, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

What the.... Alex told me you were him.... who are you then? Michael? Kevin? PitaKang 22:36, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

An Opposite World
Hey Rogue would you like to help me on this TL concerning the location of power? PitaKang 00:35, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hanthawaddy
As Mitro said, I deleted the redirect. As for your articles, there is no need for you to have an article for a "Profile of Hanthawaddy" and "Hanthawaddy" as they would both be the same article and as such only exist to clutter up the wiki. Choose one, and edit that - the other will be marked for deletion. Lordganon 12:45, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

And all of the other nations articles for that game, as well as country articles on the rest of the wiki, have both of those things on the same page. I repeat: there is no need for both. Make the choice. Lordganon 04:40, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the rest of the articles follow a pattern that somewhat combines the two. Yours is the one that does not.

I do like your attempt to move towards actual articles with your game. However, creating redundant articles is not the way to do it. As for the Conworlds wiki, that is not this wiki. Simple as that.

As for redundancy being a reason for deletion, all you would have had to do is read our deletion policy. There's a link to it on the conventions page. To quote the line: "Copy of an existing article either on this Wiki or another Wiki"

As it stands, you having the two articles violates that.

Lordganon 11:36, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Drawing Program
The one I use is called "GIMP" It's a free program much like photoshop that you can get online. Lordganon 05:05, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Heh. Yeah, my bad on that one with the size. Saved a different thumb of it than I should have. Though, it doesn't look blurry at all to me, so all's well.

And no, I don't use a Mac. Never have, never will - cant run anything decent on the blasted things.

Lordganon 05:12, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Way I figure it, the blurry is on you - no one else has said a word, and it shows up clear to me. I suggest looking at your monitor, not my work - the vast majority of "blurry" you see, unless the format of the picture was changed - which it was not - is an issue with your own screen of some sort.

Paint is garbage. Absolutely nothing that comes through that thing ends up intact or not blurry. And it should be pretty obvious by what I said what I use, and what system it's on.

Lordganon 06:03, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

The size is one thing - but you changed the colonies. I've reverted the change, and will update the map to the proper size. Don't mess up a map like that again. Lordganon 04:35, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Talk on Map Games
Basically, if its a simple note its fine, something pointing out something for people to remember or whatnot. Example being when say the Holy Roman Empire goes to war, a note reminding people that some of the major countries on the map such as Bohemia, Brandenburg, and Burgundy are part of the empire is fine. A note referring people to the talk page for discussion of a point is also acceptable. Questions should be on the talk page, not on the main page. . It takes all of 2 seconds to check the talk page, if they get email notifications it lets them know when the talk page has been changed. If they don't check the talk page thats laziness on their part. Thats my stance on it. If you want to move the discussion as well, thats fine, I'll do it when I see it as well. Although I tend to go through phases of activity so there may be times I miss a whole bunch.Oerwinde 06:11, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if emails are default, but I've never changed the settings and I get them.Oerwinde 06:24, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Border Dispute
I guess the mods can have a vote, or something. PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 16:40, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

India signed a non-aggression pact with Germany, and I doubt Italy will want to restart the war with Britain... so you're basically on your own against the might of the 2 million strong Indian Army, which will take Tenasserim. You will also deal with the US and you have unnecessarily revoked your right to a total blind eye on your conquests in Malaysia and anywhere east of Burma. If you don't edit your post, Siam is literally done. Plus India actually let you do whatever, as long as you don't cross over, plus the French released Indochina, so methinks it would be wiser if you went there instead of being obliterated by a coalition of troops defending their respective land. Batmanary 03:10, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

File move requests
Great idea. I've rather clumsily created a template: Template: filemove. It may need minor tweaking but I've tested it and it seems to work. Category:File move requests has been created to handle this sort of thing. Benkarnell 20:11, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

A Different History
It doesn't have to be Roman history! It's just that I'm best at Roman History, and you're good at South-East Asian history, so you could write events for Asia. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 13:48, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Personally for this TL, I just created a present-day page for the Mughal Empire. Like that you could just create yours, autonomous from the main page. Batmanary 08:29, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Your inflexibility with Siam
You say that you have no place to expand and yet wou have Indochina, which is free now, and has traditionsl Siamese domains, Malaysia and Indonesia, and yet you keep going after Tenasserim. I'm not letting you have it. It is my land. Batmanary

And India has pure manpower. Siam cannot realistically have 2 million people in its army. Using those calculations, mine should have at least 10 to 15 million. Totally implausible, and India had the most troops in WWII anywho. Plus I'm not threatening if it is my land. Just saying. That would be like me constantly trying to annex northern Siam. But I am not, so let it go and go after the other numerous places you have for espansion and leave Tenasserim alone. Batmanary

Doomsday Maps
I suppose you could, but those maps would be a touch off - that simulator is not as good/accurate as the other one usually used, http://www.carloslabs.com/node/20

Remember that a lot of major cities were hit with strikes more in the 400kt-1MT range, or even multiple strikes, when using the things, mind. And that neither of the two actually shows the difference between air and ground bursts. Ground = more fallout, but air = more blast range.

Lordganon 07:21, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

A Different History
You don't really have to know much about ancient Chinese history, if you create a China page, it will be a modern nation! However, I really want AS MANY NATIONS AS POSSIBLE, so one will be Ming Dynasty, another Tang, and so forth (It doesn't have to be those two). PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sí, tenía ideas para una Colombia mas grande (tal vez la Gran Colombia?), y me parecería interesante una Confederación Peru-Boliviana para hacerle un rival local. Fed (talk) 13:18, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Macau
Actually, what he said was that your map was too big to match the China map. The map by Oer shows what is correct as their 100% controlled territory, with the rest being varying degrees of control as shown in the China map. An any sort of state in any of the destroyed cities violates canon, btw. Lordganon 22:54, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I am aware of it. But your article explicitly states that there was a alliance of clans, or sorts, there after Doomsday, which is not possible, as you've been told several times. Lordganon 22:56, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Kenny, you're forgetting the fires. The Thermal Impact of the blast starts fires all over the place, and in crowded areas like China, with central authority in these cities and the country gone, they quickly go out of control. The entire region ends up incinerated.

These articles are meant to show what's happened since Doomsday. Have a closer look at the city articles, besides Seoul and Lexington, for how it would look, and also have a look what happens to Egypt after Cairo gets hit by Israel in 1987.

Lordganon 23:09, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm aware of the geography, kenny - I meant the urban areas, not the countryside. And the rainy season having just ended really makes it worse, because without rain, as when fires get past a certain temperature and size, like forest fires, damp wood, etc. really doesn't make too much difference unless it's being constantly watered.

Kenny, I've told you several times now: The area that the map and Arstar say it controls are the same. Just go off of the two maps that Oer made, which if you look you'll see that Arstar did not take issue, and thus must agree, with, and remember to stay true to Arstar's instructions. He wants me to keep an eye on his articles for him while he's not really around, so I'll keep an eye on ya.

The maps:





Lordganon 07:31, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Add at least another 25% to the fire range, Kenny. Hiroshima largely burned out because it ran out of city to burn, while you have more city than that.

Rains aren't constant when it's not rainy season. Rain, when a fire gets to a certain size, even monsoon rains, would only do so much, with fires spreading inside houses, and between walls.

Kenny, the map you made, simply put, did not match the China map. Yours had it too far inland, and did not have the western coast, like both of Oer's maps do. That's what he wanted reduced, and Oer supplied exactly what he wanted, as I've told you more than once now.

Oer's comments refer to the reference you made to Hong Kong being "partially controlled" due to its status as radioactive. Not your map as being "right."

Given the specific permissions Arstar gave you, anything else will be undone. So you know.

Lordganon 08:44, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Kenny, he said that your map needed to be smaller - as in not as far inland. The maps Oer made are accurate. Lordganon 02:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Martial arts
Well I am not that knowledgable when it comes to martial arts. But a general article on how they may have evolved differently following Doomsday would sure be interesting. I would highly reccomend creating a proposal about it. Mitro 19:48, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

9/11
Haha, you have 911 edits! (I know, that was lame) PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:58, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

East Tennessee
Sure, as long as it doesn't conflict with canon. I have to admit I'm not familiar with martial arts in Tennessee; I would do a google search, identify which disciplines have a presence in eastern Tennessee, then research what their presence in Johnson City, Knoxville, Gatlinburg, et al was like in 1983. From there, you could have the instructors teach self-defense techniques to the general public.

Remember that eastern Tennessee in 1983, and today in the timeline, is probably much more conservative and religious (Christian) than it may be now in our world. Therefore, the spiritual and religious aspects of the various martial arts disciplines would be of interest only to a relative handful of people. Religious leaders would perhaps initially decry the influence of martial arts (google Albert Mohler and yoga for an OTL example). BrianD 17:11, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Good start. I may tweak it to make sure it's consistent with canon. As it's late here and I'm still celebrating UK's win :) I will put that off until I can get some time to review the East Tennessee article. BrianD 05:47, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Cambodia
They were desposed in a coup that killed the leadership. Likely most of the higher-up members are in prison awaiting a trial for crimes against humanity for their involvement in the Killing Fields. Likely any official with any involvement with the despicable genocide would be promptly executed in a public area to give closure to their victims. --Yank 02:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wheat Republics
Sounds like an interesting idea. If it doesn't contradict canon, I don't see why it would be an issue. Bring it up in the main 1983: Doomsday talk page and see what the community thinks. The mods don't really have any say on content unless it breaks the rules.Oerwinde 05:34, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Newsrush Instant News
There's a page for instant news. Write some about your countries, and stuff, and contribute! Just type Newsrush in the sidebar, and it should show up. Batmanary

1080AD
I heard that the User AnonymousHistoryGuy was banned.since he was the admin of the map game 1080 AD, how do i adopt this map game?Collie Kaltenbrunner 08:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Principia Moderni
I want to kinda experiment with it, could you run one for a join Japan/Joseon invasin of Vietnam, which is being backed by Hanthaawaddy? PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

No, what I mean is not a real one, just a test one so I can see another example of your system. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

True, you may cause political unrest, but yoy can't control player nations, and you shouldn't target individual players. Yank had permission from me to demote you BTW. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 16:50, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

CrimsonAssassin PitaKang
I believe CrimsonAssassin PitaKang has abused his powers as moderator. Nowhere in the Principia Moderni rules does it say that mods can use their powers to spark tensions between nations. They may create natural events/disasters, but not political events. Am I right in believing that CrimsonAssassin PitaKang has oustepped his bounds?

Yank 23:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I was about to say! CrimsonAssassin

I made a mistake and nearly blamed the wrong user. I still think that PitaKang outstepped his bounds when he created a mod event to stir up tensions between nations. The way I see it a mod can cause natural disasters, but cannot manipulate other nations. I think he made himself a candidate for impeachment for that stunt.

Yank 00:08, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

See the PM page. Btw Crimson, I would make you a mod, but you're not very active and almost all of your turns have been expansion. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 00:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I thought I was a mod. CrimsonAssassin 00:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't approve you. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 00:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Since this conversation is about me, I thought I would join in. I didn’t know that I could not create political unrest, I was thinking of the AvA rules. Also, why did Yank make me an assistant moderator instead of moderator? DK promoted me to moderator some time ago. So you have no right to do that. I have reverted your edit. Thanks, PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 16:38, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I didn't know that. And besides, all users controlling the Kamlar Union is inactive, and has only contributed for only several turns. Anyways, shouldn't Roguejedi be off the list? He hasn't been active at all. Also, what do you mean I can't target one nation? I created a tsunami at China, Joseon, and Japan, you didn't say anything then. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 20:54, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can take the next couple weeks or so to learn about moderatorship and then we can discuss promoting you. It is recommended you don't target a single nation for implausibility because it's not proper cobduct. The exception is if they're going against the rules. Rogue was active when he got moderatorship, and was pretty plausible, so now that he is effectively retired, I don't see a reason to take him off, seeing there isn't really a limit on number of moderators. The KU is active for the sake of the three players who own it. Two are on regularly and sometimes they post occasionallly. But I am the one who marks nations inactive, so follow that guideline. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 21:59, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Senegal
Yeah, I thought that you wanted me to cede all of Senegal to you, I'll just take your offer. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 18:02, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I mean your Tigüent divison. Also, on a random, unrelated note, are you still active on AvA? Cause that game is kinda dying out. Thanks! PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:05, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Could you rejoin AvA? I've noticed that too, and I'm about to make some sweeping changes to the game. I really would like it if AvA finished. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:21, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, but please resolve the issue with India quickly. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:27, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Castellon
You wrote:

"Sorry to put you on the spot, but we clearly have a problematic situation here. I don't blame the community, because I'm not one for intervening on articles outside my 'zone of interest.' But I'm becoming increasingly worried about the exponentially increasing size of the arguments on the Castellon article, and I find it is detracting from my time in other areas of life. This may sound unrealistic, but I am also concerned with the time Lordganon is spending, because I hate to waste an hour out of someone's 24-hour day. I really want to just get this over with so I can resume my normal life. Additionally, I have a ton of stubs on 1983: Doomsday, A Different History, and my own timeline that needs to be finished, so I really just want to have enough time to contribute. Naturally, it would be a shame for the article not to be canonized because of all the time spent on arguing, but if it's obsolete, it's obsolete. What I ask from you is to let me know which of mine and LG's arguments are valid to avoid the arguments growing excessively large, put forth your own ideas and propose a compromise if necessary. I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks for your time!"

In response:

No problem, Kenny, I have more time than sense, lol. I have looked over the arguments, and it appears that is more or less a draw. However, you have not shown just why Peru, or anyone else in the southern hemisphere, would venture to help a surviving town on the far side of Spain. Castellon was far too close to Velencia to have survived without help. The population that survived would indeed be famished by the time help arrived from the developing nation-states that came from the fall of Madrid. I don't see Peru or any other "Western" nation stepping in to help.

That being said, to your request. LG used your own arguments against you, so rehashing those will not work. You have put far more work into your research than he has in rejecting your arguments, so the shame is that no one else has weighed in. Looking at your arguments, I have not seen a compelling reason why Peru would search out a surviving town on the far side of Spain in the first place. It would be far easier to establish trade with Mexico, Texas, or even Chumash.

If you want to develop a another survivor nation on the Iberian Peninsula, Castello would work as well as any place not stricken by Nukes. The mountains would have served as a good shield, and the forests around Castellon de la Plana could be cleared for farmland (with care not to turn it into a desert!) The fear of fallout is largely overblown (literally!) since any radioactive particulates from an air burst would be greatly dispersed. Direct exposure to the radiation of the bomb itself would be nonexistent 30 miles away. The survivors would have to work hard to preserve what goods they had, and begin planning on how to replace them. Fishermen, though a small minority, would begin fishing with a vengeance, and hiring others (paying in fish?) to hopefully become "rich" as a provider of food for the area. Of course, the economy would be reduced to barter as money became next to useless. Meanwhile, fish meal and other fish byproducts would serve as the much needed fertilizer to increase the local produce -- wheat (yes, the area is good for that), potatoes, maize (corn), and especially oats.

Most of your time, I think, should be on where you live - the great nation of Peru. Peru's connections with Japan would be a good place to insert its influence in light of the recent earthquake there. As the powerhouse of western South America, Peru could be a leading player in international relations while Brazil and Argentina (UAR) squander much of their influence on internal affairs. Rich in natural resources, a separate trade agreement with the ANZC might be possible (like the one with the US in our time line). Trade with US survivor states would be possible once the Panama Canal opened. Most notably, trade with Louisiana and Florida would be most profitable. --SouthWriter 18:24, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

UPDATE: It's been a while, but things are looking good on your work with Castellón. As for your recent activity being 'loaded with personal bias,' I would not be too concerned with it. Almost all of us bring in some (or even much) bias when we write our articles. You have tried hard to create a viable city-state and/or province here, and for that, I give it my "thumbs up." LG's objections notwithstanding, I think we need to put this for 'graduation.' SouthWriter 17:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Water Clock
Kenny, this seems to be the sticking point between you and LG:

"Castellón's main attraction is its massive water clock outside the airport, which is constantly monitored in order to keep time accurately for the rest of the world, although very few outside the Iberian Peninsula actually hold to this standard. Castellón has officially yielded to UTC+0, much closer to sunlight time, since the founding of the republic in 1986."

Here is how I would word it as to take away the controversy:

"Castellón's main attraction is its elaborate [size is not as important as accuracy] water clock inside [water clocks need controlled temparatures] the airport, which is constantly monitored in order to remain as accurate as almost any clock in the rest of the world [removes the 'offending' claim].  Though virtually unknown outside the Iberian Peninsula, the fact that Castellón had officially changed to UTC+0 (much closer to sunlight time) - at the founding of the republic in 1986, is being used to promote the idea, at least locally, to promote the adoption of its clock as the standard for international commerce and travel."

Sorry about the last sentence, it is quite complex, but I hope it got everything in. You get the idea, I guess, and I didn't want to make any "minor" edits without your permission. I like the idea, it just needs to be treated as a neutral observer rather than an ardent supporter of the province. SouthWriter 14:16, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Being A Mod
Sure, I'd love to be a mod. I just don't know when the first time I wrote about Corsica. It just seemed like one of those posts that everyone ignored. I can get rid of the last Corisca refrence though.

Yank 00:34, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Survival
The general rule when it comes to people's location on Doomsday is if you can't confirm they're elsewhere, assume they're at home.Oerwinde 08:05, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Revolution 2011 Edit
Hello. I hope you are having a pleasant day.

I am leaving you a message to inform you of a new TL I am creating. It is a role playing scenario where you create an individual who has the power to change the world. You can create a person or take the wheel of a current person. With your help, I'm sure this will be the biggest thing to come from this wiki since Map Games!

CrimsonAssassin 21:40, April 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know why I got notice of this post, but I have to wonder how this is "alternate history." When we create alternate history, we try to stay away from such "god-like" things like this.  It is, in fact, usually considered "Alien Space Bats" because it brings in things that ordinarily would not be there.  And it may be just me, but "Map Games" are a bit too far fetched as a way of relating the genre that most of us love. SouthWriter 00:59, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Principia Moderni
Great leader of Hanthawaddy-

How long have we suffered under the heel of the Chinese? How long have our people suffered from the wrath of the Ming? For far too long we have been subjugated to the Chinese, divided amongst ourselves, puppets to the “superior race” of China. For far too long we have accepted and consented to the fact that China was more powerful, is more powerful, and will be more powerful than us. That has gone for far too long, and our nation, our people are suffering. China has grown weak, isolating themselves from the world. So come, brothers, let us rise up against the Chinese tyranny, crush their armies, burn their palaces, put their Imperial Family to the sword and start a new era of peace and prosperity. Come, for divided we are weak, but united we are strong.

Emperor Kim Ji-Myung—Joseon

PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs)

 About your deal with the Ottomans in The Scramble for Africa, the Ottomans accpet.StarkBlack 23:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

 AlgeriaStarkBlack 23:58, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

 We've reached 1520 on Principia Moderni. Souldn't we be getting a new map now?

 Yank 18:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

South America in 1983
Remembered something today, and checked up on it to clarify. According to canon as listed on the Timeline article, your work, more so on Peru than anything, violates canon. Have a look, specifically for stuff about the Andean Union. I'll be putting it up for review in a week or so if it's not fixed. Lordganon 06:46, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It has been on the timeline article since long before the SA articles were made, and at the very least Ecuador has a reference to it. Lordganon 14:58, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Kenny, you have the members of it fighting what amounts to a war, and then agreeing to join in the SAC together? That is not possible, at all. That's what violates canon. Lordganon 10:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Mario Vargas Lleras
I think that they wrote badly the surname. Is Mario Vargas Llosa. :) Just that. jeje --Katholico 15:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

US Civil War Map Game
Thank you for taking over this game from me; now since I have nothing to do with this game anymore and your now in charge (sort of anyway) you can chose to do what you want, but here is my opinions/answers to your questions:
 * 1: You can update it as much frequently as you want to, it is now your job. I wouldn't recomend every 10 years though as this means you have to do a lot of backreading to make the map accurate. I would recomend every year or two years personally, but its really up to you.
 * 2: Now implausability was the main reason I left; I couldn't really think of a good way to deal with it without creating loads of arguements so I decided to leave & continue with my own projects. I say deal with it however you want to, maybe with a vote system or a neutral on-looker or something.
 * 3: As for the Global Federation, its your country now so you can do what ever you want with it really. Maybe base it on the state system of the USA or something, but it should be a democractic republic due to how it was founded; to start with anyways...

Anyway I hope you can muster more patientence and understanding then I could; and good luck with you running this game! VonGlusenburg 15:08, May 2, 2011 (UTC).

Oh and on another note, I notice you are also a fan of the idea of a chat box. If you want we could lead a campaign and try to get us one. I've mentioned it in a topic in the Nexus after seeing your interest in it, and I would appriate it if you show your support and we'll get ourselves one VonGlusenburg 15:31, May 2, 2011 (UTC).

Re: Principia Moderni
I understand that you care about the map game, but as for the 'edit wars', I didn't know who was deleting my posts. As for the plausibility thing, I think it's completely plausible, even more plausible than the Spanish defeating the Incans in OTL. The Chinese beating the Incans is plausible because China just has to cross the Pacific Ocean. The Spanish had to cross the Atlantic AND across South America. China has a huge navy capable of taking Inca within ten years.

Implausibility is highly opinionated and I can understand that it varies from person to person. Just keep in mind that I'm not one of those crazy expansionalist people. I had a war with Mongolia, and waited DECADES, expanding my military and improving my interior and relations, before expanding again. I wait for even more years before setting up my North America colony. CrimsonAssassin 16:22, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

That "Spain" guy is still going strong in his implausibility, imo. Thought you'd like to know.

And, if you haven't guessed, wikia is doing IP traces on the India guy, the just-quit Mughal guy, and the Spain guy for me. Again, so you know.

Lordganon 09:05, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Wow. They did that one fast. They are indeed matches, all three of them sharing the same set of IPs and using the same browser. Lordganon 09:12, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

US Civil War
I think the new user, Ceaser, is a sockpuppet to another user, as all of his contributions have been solely to mapgames, States of America 2 and US Civil War, to be exact. Bats

Just to give you some information, Europeans got possesion of Potatoes in OTL after the fall of the Incas, so imagine parts of history where the vegetable had proved invaluble. Also, here are some images I found and if you dont likle them then I can look for more favorable ones. BlackSkyEmpire 02:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire



Here. A drawing of Machu Picchu. BlackSkyEmpire 03:02, May 8, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

I think Ceaser is a sockpuppet of Rebelsoldier. Batmanary

Head Chunin
There is this new user called Head Chunin, who joined for Principia Moderni.he tried to take over Spain (detail:Spain doesn't exist as a unified country and he posted something about Spain creating a imperial empire, or something like that.) Castille controls all of Spain, and since Woogers, who originally controlled Castille, is inactive since weeks ago, i came here to ask if he can be allowed to take Castille, instead of creating a country which doesn't exist officially, even though he is praticallty just controlling Castille and changing its name forget about that. i just discovered that he's a sockpuppet.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 15:47, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Inca Kola
Come on, Kenny, Inca Kola overtaking Coca Cola (aka Cola Grande of Cuban fame)? I don't think so. I have tasted Inca "Cola," and it is definitely an acquired taste. Besides, the international rights to the drink are owned by multinational Coca Cola. In TTL, soda drinks are not that common, though, and I suspect that Inca Kola could become popular in many different markets. I'd suggest, though, that you cut back the promotion of the "flavor of Peru" to at least the SAC and maybe Castellón. SouthWriter 03:58, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I Have a new website, an I want you to become an Administrator on it!!
I have a new website, I would like to introduce map games, please try it out!!

Heres the link, please higlight it and copy it to your adress bar, I am offering administrator status to the first 3 members: alternatehistory.yolasite.com

Thanks,

A Wiki Contributer

New Prinipia Moderni rules
These new rules frustrate me to no end. The reason I didn't make any pages for my stuff is that I couldn't make up good Vietnamese names, as I know absolutely no Vietnamese. I would like some help with that.

--Yank 03:46, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Principia Moderni
In the map, how the pixels in the colony are done?i mean, it's the number of pixels and a layer of red-border pixels, or the red-border and the country-respsctive color are all part of the pixels of the colony? it's because i'd like to add the current state of Újfundlandi and Labrador in the map.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:55, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Burma Seperatism
I hadn't considered a Karen state. I chose the states that I chose because they had defined territories. If you can help with these articles, I would love your assistance.

Yank 15:36, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Query
Heh. Answered Crim when I heard back from wikia on the matter, since he was the one who asked. Wikia said that Janusary didn't share any connections with any banned users, or the like. Though, I myself am inclined to think that it was still him, just somewhere else, though there is no proof of it. Lordganon 21:11, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Macau
"Sorry Kenny, but I'd appreciate it if you would NOT change the size of Macau and only work on the economics and other aesthetic changes"

Straight from Arstar's talk page. Quite frankly, you've already been allowed by yours truly to do more than you have permission to do. He did not say once that you could do "anything provided I don't change anything that's already there."

So, no. It's not BS. Learn to read.

Lordganon 04:52, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Map in Principia Moderni
Okay.how about each one makes three maps, and when these three maps are done,the other starts to make the other three maps, unless that they have not time to do it?this occupies like, one month and each one made the same amount of maps.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:22, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Changes in the map
About the Principia Moderni map, i'd like to warn you that i am going to add the Duchy of Mazovia to the map. until this point it has been considered a part of Poland-Lithuania, when in fact, it was still independent.unless that the mods resolve to unite Mazovia and Poland-Lithuania, it remains a separate state.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:47, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but i will have to remove Mazovia from the list of countries available?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 08:16, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay.i've been thinking in annex Galicia from Poland-Lithuania anyway.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:48, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

possible Colonization for vassals
Well, i had the idea of after the war with Poland-Lithuania is done, i thought in creating a vassal state corresponding to the Polish part along with Galicia-Lodomeria.So, if a nation has a vassal state, the vassal can have colonies?If yes, how are the rules for this?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:38, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

However, can i take Burgundy out of the map? (i mean, take out the present color and replace it with the generic color) the user with Burgundy is long inactive and it has no colonies.and, the same was done with the Kalmar Union and Genoa.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 05:42, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

wait;for now (four colonies) the limit is 1250 or 2000.this is for each colony or for all of them?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 06:52, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. i thought that the limit was only for each colony.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:16, July 1, 2011 (UTC)