User talk:Baron Joshua

Vincent Sheheen 2010 SC
Hey!

I made a stub article about Sheheen winning in 2010, against André Bauer and a second about 2014. I don't know if you'll need them, but if you need an electoral map, you're more than welcome to use mine.

I'm looking forward to your timeline!

AltHistoryVibes (talk) 23:53, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :D Your the first person to have contacted me on the wiki directly and I am most appreciative to have these resources you have provided. I'll be sure to keep in touch and use what you have offered the best I can. I may even contribute to the articles you have shared :)

Baron Joshua (talk) 23:55, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

I'm starting to; from a glance- suspect that Vincent had he won the election in 2010 would be re-elected in 2014 as well- votes for Haley had turned up due to how well the state and her where doing and I can suspect similiar conditions under Vincent and thus that a greater voter turn out would come to his support in the 2014 election. This also allows me to explore how Vincent would have handled the Church shooting and what media attention on Vincent would have done for his career; and how his response would have impacted the state. I'm afraid that I may find something horrifying but having yet to start research into that scenario I can't allow myself to make up my mind on that. I'd have to find interviews or footage of the Senate during that event to garner his perspective and position. Until then I can't dwell on what could be; not with out the facts regarding what was.

Baron Joshua (talk) 02:02, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Two Japans
Now there is a video by a popular alternate history channel on YouTube, the alternatehistoryhub, which goes into a explanation of operation downfall, the plan, and how it could lead to 2 japans. Now I will explain 2 possible ideas, since I don't fully understand if the would use a third atom bomb or not, that could happen. President Truman is deciding the possibility of using the atomic bomb. While some generals view it as a cruel weapon many see it as a quick end to the war. But then the Soviets launch a full scale invasion of Hokkaido and minor advances into Manchuria. Truman realizes they must act fast. He orders that Operation Downfall happen as fast as they can. The US quickly pulls forces from other battles and Troops from Europe into there plan. They plan on taking Shikoku Island, Toyko, and Kyushu Island. An invasion force larger then that of D-Day. Hundreds of American, Australian, perhaps even Indian and Canadian troops started. First troops troop in by parachutes along with heavy bombing. Now it as estimated that it would take 6 months to end all Japanese resistance. The US focuses mainly on Japan this leaves Korea open to soviet occupation. The us sees that and may send a small invasion force but I doubt it. It takes 2 months to take the southern islands and push into Honshu. Tokyo still held out. In the north Russia has taken most of Hokkaido. The emperor would most likely surrender with this threat. Japan would become a democratic monarchy with the emperor acting like the queen of the uk limited power. They would face a occupation to stave of the soviet bear. Hokkaido and a little of northern Honshu along with Sakhalin island would become a ussr puppet. Korea would either be annexed by the PRC or just a puppet of the ussr or the prc. Japan would be forced to have a military. Perhaps they would join Nato, or the cross oceanic treaty organization, to avoid a war. I could see a Cuban missile crisis happening in Northern Japan do to the threat of hitting Hawaii and even Alaska. Perhaps they would remove them if the us removed there warheads in the south of japan or Alaska. When the USSR falls the North would remain a ally of china but not Russia. Korea could try to become democratic, perhaps facing similar conditions that are happening to north Koreans, or become a capitalist style communist nation like china. The north could do the same and open limited trade with the south. While some would want to unify many wouldn't. It would be a north and south korea style standoff. But do to there similar culture, not being like Korea who hadn't been a nation for many centuries. They had been unified for thousands of years or hundreds. They could perhaps one day unify like west and east Germany. The other scenario. Japan doesn't surrender. Perhaps the Soviets don't invade them stalin may be happy with there European land and maybe strikes back at Finland to annex or puppet them. The US decides to do the unthinkable drop a third bomb and prepare an invasion force. The bomb hits and the us realizes that the emperor wasn't in Kyoto like there intelligence said he was but in Tokyo. His son however was only 12 years old at the time and couldn't rule since he wasn't of age. The USSR then invades Japan and Manchuria. Korea having declared its independence with the death of the emperor. The US then enacts operation downfall. The remaining government leader are unsure of wanting peace or not. Akihito while the next emperor isn't technically in power advises thy do surrender. They do. Korea becomes a democracy. The north Japanese government takes the same land except for Honshu as in the previous scenario. The South becomes democratic but the emperor has a good amount of power. The us aids Korea and south japan. Korea could still face a civil war that could spark north japan to invade the south. If so the US, along with UN forces would either choose one, or try to aid both, the us would aid both even if the un didn't. If so this could cause the north to resent the south and prevent unification resulting in them being like modern day north and south Korea perhaps without a crazed man wanting to attack nations with nukes leading the north. Korea could still spit maybe being slightly smaller since they weren't divided into occupations zones after the war to decide there post war borders. Perhaps the ussr wouldn't fund a Afghanistan campaign but focus on 2 regions closer to them and china korea and japan. Perhaps the ussr would see need to further distract the us from them and send more aid to east Timor, a nation which at some point as a failed ussr attempt to create a oceanic communist regime(This is though unlikely to happen but is interesting). Perhaps the Cuban missile crisis would result in the us pulling missiles out of turkey and south japan. Either way the us would have a love hate relation with south japan. Loving them only cause they aid there efforts in there side in the cold war but resent them since so many lives were lost invading them. South japan would be forced to keep there military. Kyoto would most likely be south japans capital until Tokyo is habitable again. This could force the us to send more aid to rebuild 3 cities not 2. There could be a third one where Toyko is split like berlin but north south and north japan having more of Honshu instead of just a bit of northern Honshu.

^ Above by DiamondTrident

I believe that the monarchy should be kept but would be similar to the British monarchy but holding slightly more power then the queen in the UK does. The queen has the power to start, and/or end war, along with a few other minor powers along with just sort of guiding the government like a advisor. But the emperor might be given slightly more power. Imagine the German Weimer Republic setup. There is there version of a senate or parliament. That has its leader with a good amount of power like a prime minister but above him is the chancellor. The emperor would be the highest level of power but the prime minister and parliament would be able to deny some of his decisions along with keep him in check. If Tokyo was nuked and there emperor was killed there I would have to see his son Akihito not deign perhaps at some other place Kyoto perhaps. If this were the case he would be there new emperor but not of age, being 12 or 13 at this time, he could simply advise them to surrender if the us then invades. The few remaining heads of Japanese state would be advised they should surrender by him and they would have to since he was there god-emperor and the Japanese had to listen to there emperor. One or 2 might not like it since hes not technically of age so he cant be the emperor. This might spark a new party in there Japanese government similar to one it has now wanting to return the emperor to full power. As for the small north japan idea I think that a good but small chunk of northern Honshu, the main Japanese island would be given to them if the ussr had they reached that far. This could lead to the usa fully investing resources into Japan and perhaps not Korea seeing japan as a better stronghold do to the fact the us could make it nearly impossible to invade. Now as for the youtube channel I said you might want to check is not bias. I have seen my fair share of bais alt history videos. This channel is not one of them. He does great research into the topics. A good example is how he actually explained the Nazism ideals instead of mislabeling it as facism as people do. Now I am not saying you have to watch it but his video on operation downfall is a quick but good explanation of the us plan to invade japan. Tokyo was only going to be invading if there southern landings stalled or weren't progressing as well but if it was nuked operation cornet would have been moved northward. Now the US while it did make these plans didn't fully finish some, one being operation cornet to take Tokyo by naval invasion, so some speculation would have to be done on it. DimondTrident (talk) 17:33, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Also I forgot to mention this but I think the ussr to ease relations with the Japansese might give them Sakhalin now if they only give them pre world war 2 southern half or all if it I don't know but either one would give them more land. The biggest problem North Japan would face is a lower population then the south, if they have northern Sakhalin island then an issue with Russians especially after the soviets fall and they might celebrate there down fall as the party did in are timeline would cause issues. Then theres the fact the south of japan is more suited for farming and has more industry. The north being cold the could face some issues with food and industry the soviets might help them build factories to better stand up to the south. DimondTrident (talk)

Yes I do agree with that I only threw out the split Tokyo idea as a more unlikely but interesting idea. Perhaps the soviets would have the border near the town of Sendai. This gives them a small but good chunk of japan. It is roughly 180 miles or so away from Tokyo. Or for a cleaner line the 46 northern parallel line. That line is close to Sendai. So they could do that or there could be a rougher border set at like in Germany where the armies stopped so maybe a bit more northern if they do the latter and set it at where they stopped. Now maybe, this is unlikely but im throwing it out here, the us and ussr would trade land. Perhaps the ussr would as for some more Japanese land and the us would give them a bit more of korea. Or the us gives Russia more of korea for japan, which is unlikely since the ussr would want as much of japan as possible. This is as I said unlikely unless Russia trades land in Europe as part of the deal. One such territory could be Austria. they were given a small occupation zone but gave it to the allies. Perhaps with threat of another communist state, maybe a United Socialist Republic of Austria-Hungary, the us would trade a bit of japan for Austria. This is of course still unlikely but could be interesting. DimondTrident (talk) 22:30, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Yea I have know realized I said the wrong degree north. But here what I see happening. The US feels that defending an island is better then defending a small peninsula. So they give the south to Russia, perhaps the south would revolt leading to a small civil war that would result in the north wining, in exchange for Soviet Honshu Island. The Soviets could annex Hokkaido Island. But we want a north japan so that wont happen. Instead a nations similar to the eastern European nations independent but Russia has high influence. This nation would be the islands of Sakhalin, Hokkaido and part of the kuril islands. It could be called the Peoples Republic of the Hokkaido-Karafuto Union, Karafuto is the Japanese name for Sakhalin, or just the Peoples Republic of Northern Japan. Perhaps they would be forced into the Russians sphere of Influence. As for Korea I believe China would be like Russia and heavily try to control some of what they do. After the soviets fall Northern Japan might try to befriend China but it may not. Do to the fact many of atl members of the JCP were born in the south they may not be able to do that. Because in atl they celebrated the ussr downfall. DimondTrident (talk) 01:59, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

I do agree with Sakhalin being Russian control though this may cause tension with them and Russia. Perhaps they would try to take it when the soviet union falls. As for the name. I think that it shouldn't be a cloned name of Korea, no offense, so do to the influence from Russia it would be called the Socialist Republic of Northern Japan. Now if China was able to better influence Korea and North Japan they could adopt some capitalist ideals like china did atl. Now what this could mean is the north opening limited trade and travel with the south. This could help ease remaining cold war tension between them. I think that southern japan would be similar to atls Japan. They could become more industrialized and while maybe not focus as much on entertainment could still. I think once Japan rebuilt Tokyo they may remake it there capital, for obvious reasons. Now one think I think there would be made up war plans during the cold war is 2 things. One a soviet-Japanese plan to invade the Aleutian island and Alaska, this yes would be improbable to do but just a plan that wont get used, the usa would have plans to invade north japan and Korea. There would be north and south invasion planned as well. There may even be a earlier version of a Cuban missle crisis in Japan. With the range of nuclear missiles north japan using Russian missiles could hit Seattle and some other areas in north west America and Canada. Now as for when and what president is leading the us would determine course of action. Maybe missiles in Southern Japan to scare the ussr or a disarming of nukes by the usa elsewhere. DimondTrident (talk) 04:45, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Fascist Reich
well its basically becuse i dident have many name ideas for it.--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 09:11, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

timeline rewiew?
im looking for what people think about my timeline so what do you think of it?--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 23:20, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

its the Fascist reich one--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 23:38, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

well the italian ciwil war split italy in four powers
 * Kingdom of italy-half of italy excluding milan-headed by vittorio emmanuele
 * Republic of milan
 * Kingdom of sardina-corsica headed by a ancestor of napoleon
 * Kingdom of naples

The ciwil war ended with all of the four powers recognising each independence--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 00:13, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

what template should i use for a president or prime minister--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 12:32, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

custom flag
could you make me a custom flag?--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 23:40, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

i need a flag wgich will be a mix between corsica and sardinias flag--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 17:28, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.you deserve a place in this timeline as a ruler.

What type of monarchy would you like to be the ruler of?--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 21:27, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Any chanche you can create a map?--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 22:10, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

Well i would need a map of spain with gibraltar being spanish and a map were austria and hungary are united--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 22:53, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

no the map of is for austro-hungarian republic which consist of austria and hungary like checoslovakia,and yes italy will be interesting The kingdom of italy owns everything from rome to venice ecept milan--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 00:20, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Favourite Althists
I see you have added Mannerheim's Finland to your favourite althists. I am humbled and appreciate your generosity. The timeline is obviously still a work in progress so don't forget to check regularly on the progress. Thanks again!

ArmsSpaghetti (talk) 09:21, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Will do,and --DRAFIGO13 (talk) 20:20, January 28, 2018 (UTC)if you need any help in your monarchist world with sweden ill be happy to help

Well as i am from sweden i do thinn that sweden would be more of a absolute monarchy then a constitunal one. Perhaps even having its colonies left--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 20:59, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Haha im happy to hear that,im pretty knowledable about albanias kings and france--DRAFIGO13 (talk) 21:12, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Open for Adoption
Hi there. I see you have put various TL on adoption. Why not use so its easier for others to see its open for adoption, then putting a category that the majority don't see --JorgeGG (talk) 21:48, January 28, 2018 (UTC)