User talk:Lordganon



Mitro 03:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Archive, Archive 2

Congratulations, Lordganon


You are the winner of the 2011 Stirling Award for Best Writer in a Community Timeline in 2010 for your work in 1983: Doomsday. Though you technically won the award a while ago, I officially congratulate you for your achievements and formally present you with this award. Good luck in the next year! Red VS Blue 17:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

USSR's map
Hey LG, I'd like to ask for a favour, if that is ok with you. I was wondering if you would be willing to create a new map for Siberia after the new expansion takes place and is finished somewhere between early May-late June. I'm still sort of leaning towards a push in the direction of the north, but I was hoping to do one towards the south, around five to six months after the one in the north. I decided on this after I looked at Kazakhstan more thoroughly and realized that the USSR didn't have to a large area of Kazakhstan to reach Aralia, only around half of Aktobe and a large part of Kostanay, which would benefit them if wheat could still be grown there.

In any case, let me know if your up for it.--Vladivostok 17:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, well, lets look over what I had in mind then. I was thinking of them controling that small part of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug they aren't already. I was thinking they would expand slightly in Komi, so they would control about half of it. The Arkhangelsk oblast would then take up the majority of the expansion, around 3/4 of it within control. The whole SK annexation happens as planned of course. However, I wasn't sure about Murmansk Oblast. It is fairly empty, other than the Sapmi state, and they aren't really that friendly with the NU. Possible occupation?

Oh, and it would be great if the USSR map would have the various territories and republics highlighted, like the current one has. Once again, thanks for doing this, the current map is getting a bit grainy, lol.--Vladivostok 09:37, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well ok then, that is a bit disappointing, as one of the other reasons to enter the region was a port in Murmansk to give them some access to the Atlantic again. Although a port in Arkhangelsk or former SK would probably work just as well. My plan for announcing this was as follows: I'd announce today that the forces amassing on the USSR's western borders were indeed sent out to grab land and to formally annex SK.

Then, I'd also write that the start of this move would take place on the 5th of May as well. You don't have to finish the map by then, there is no rush, as it would take some time (a month, probably more) to acquire the land and secure it. The name I was thinking of would be something like the Northwestern Territory, but I'm open to suggestions.--Vladivostok 10:06, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I have just now realized I accidentally reverted one of your edits to the Doomsday page. Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just checking some of the edits on a mobile device and clicked revert by mistake. I welcome the edits and making the list more complete for the USSR.--Vladivostok 17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Macedonia-Serbia War
So you said that we should wait until may to explore this idea further, and I don't want to appear the one who's been waiting for like a month for this, but I wanted to hear your ideas on the subject. Ownerzmcown 17:53, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

So what do you think the land differences would be after the war? Ownerzmcown 20:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I've come to like the idea of what I would call the United Kingdom of Serbia and Macedonia, or if Montenegro is involved, it could just be called the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia. I was thinking Turkey would become involved, too, being with Macedonia in the MDL. Each of the countries getting their claims sounds good, Bosnia I would think, if involved, would get back hte other half of Bosnia. Thoughts? Ownerzmcown 21:59, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I see how that would be quite a quandry with the name, but the deal with the Greeks would make sense, as the Macedonians would have a lot to gain from making the deal. But as I remember being told, Croatia, if not attacked directly, wouldn't want to be in the war. Ownerzmcown 10:54, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

What if the country was officially named the United Kingdom of Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, and Kosovo, but popularly be called Yugoslavia. Like how the UK is not techinically called Britain, but most people call it Britain because its easier and about right. But if you want a different name, then we'll still have to think it out. As per the war, I was thinking the nationalist government would try to expand the armed forces as much as possible to give the country a big voice against any foreign claims. And if the war were to start, then I would think it might begin as either an attempt to retake southern Kosovo, or take the remainder of Bosnia, or, if we choose, to take back land lost in their war. Or it could be a combination of the three, if we choose. Ownerzmcown 22:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I get it, so the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia idea is dead then, oh well. I guess we'll still have to think of a name, would could just keep Macedonia, but that would probably piss off the conquered locals. As per the fight, I would imagine it starting as the Serbians using military threats on the Macedonians to regain southern Kosovo. The Macedonians would respond via the MDL with a threat to Serbia to renounce their action, possibly combined or followed by a naval blockade and the declaration of a no-fly zone. The no-fly zone would be enforced by Macedonian MiG-21's and Turkish F-4's stationed in Macedonia. Ownerzmcown 23:05, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

So this is a map of how I could kind of imagine the war going, but this is just a prototype that can easily be modified. What are your thought? Ownerzmcown 12:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

So I like your idea, of course details come later, but as per the naval war, I would like to keep that at a minimum. Macedonia has a lot to gain from keeping as much of the former Serbian fleet after this war as possible. By the way, BSA sounds interesting, anyway I can help with it, or you just want to keep that to yourself? Ownerzmcown 10:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

So, LG, when exactly do you plan to make this all happen anyway? Ownerzmcown 10:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could get me a map of Serbia so I could work out a definite invasion route of some kind by map? Ownerzmcown 21:58, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well the names are all Roman and Byzantine, which I don't think would slide with modern people in the area. Ownerzmcown 20:05, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, along the lines of strategy, and this is not much detail, I'd imagine the Serbians launching 2 pinsirs, one into the Albanian provinces, and one into the main Macedonian provinces, both set out to surround Skopje, while a third makes for a straight drive. A turning point would likely come around either through Skopje, or possibly shortly afterwards, if Skopjr is captured. From their I believe the Macedonians would be able to push the Serbs back, piece by piece, and eventually push into Serbia itself, based on the Serbian capital's position, it would kind of become a race against their allies to capture it. If Bosnia is attacked, they will likely try just two pinsirs to flank the entire country, and if the Bosnians do go on a counteroffensive, it is likely the maximum reach will be OTL Bosnian borders. If they attack Transylvania, I would think they would underestimate the country based on its small army, but be overwhelmed in the likely case the Transylvanians are able to mobilize a powerful force. Rhodope may take some time to be able to counterattack, considering the area the Serbs would be attacking first would have only sparce settlements. Thoughts? Ownerzmcown 12:18, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

That all sounds about right, however, along the lines of the naming problem, maybe it may be best to simply just have it officially be the United Kingdom of Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo, and Montengro, and be popularly known as South Slavia. Both of these are basic ideas, but we are kind of running out of ideas, lol. Ownerzmcown 22:23, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Promotion
2 Weeks is up. Congrats. I know it says you get to pick your own title, but Mitro picked mine so I figured I'd get to have some fun with it.Oerwinde 06:52, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I tried a few other languages and none of them felt right.Oerwinde 07:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Another one I considered was Orena Massa, swedish for Unwashed Masses.Oerwinde 07:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, LG. Do we have to bow towards Oklahoma City now?  :-)  SouthWriter 14:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
I think what should happen is the Confederation of the Rhine has West Germany, Prussia controls the west, and Austria acts as a sort of balancing act in between to keep th two on level, and the Confederation under control. Ownerzmcown 01:34, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the border will likely remain about the same as after the Rhineland War, and as for Africa, I expect that the Race will be much more two-sided between Britain and France, as very few states are left besides these two that can afford the empire, however, Spain, Austria, Prussia, the Confederation, and the US may very well also acquire some land in Africa. Perhaps with the Boxer Rebellion around the turn of the 20th century, the Western Powers can overthrow the pro-Boxer monarchy, and establish some sort of large, Western client state in China, just a though. Ownerzmcown 12:31, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

VHL
Go for it. Victoria has expanded quite a bit since I wrote that so there should be quite a few new teams and probably an entire league reorganization. Can't really have an island and a mainland division when the mainland will have like twice the teams.Oerwinde 07:07, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Guyana Cooperative
OK, I just made some edits to the GC page,but tagged them with the Template:Ddprop tag (Benkarnell suggested I do that). Most of the pre-DD history is about Guyana so far because it sets up the situation for the major polticial tension that occured on and after DD, but I do intend to add a lot more Surinamese info soon as well.

Odysseus56

Just added to the GC Talk page. Odysseus56

Estonia and the ADC
Sure, go right ahead. So long as you extend that membership to Courland and Lithuania as well.

Yank 20:14, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oil in Bakersfield
Hi LG I noticed you are the author of the Visalia (1983: Doomsday) article; I propose a rediscovery of oil in Bakersfield by either Visalia, or the Chumash Republic, and they form and oil pact; naturally Santa Cruz wants to get involved so they make claims to oil a well (possibly being a starting for a war in former California). Riley.Konner 20:37, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well... fine I guess the idea can be shelved, but are you in on at least forming a military alliance with Visalia and Chumash, which would also lead to a war in California? (similar to the 2009 Saguenay War) Riley.Konner 21:3, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you; I have read the American Spring article, and in Chumash, the protests will start peacefully with heavy police monitoring the protestors, until the protestors start attacking the police and they are forced to fight back. They arrest a majority of the protestors and raid CRUSA headquarters in Chumash and arrest the leaders for "treasonous actions." I figured nations on the east coast would view the protesters as martyrs while nations on the west coast view that the Chumash Republic had handled the protests very well. Riley.Konner 15:44, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Recent revert on India
Hi, LG. I want to say first that I have noticed you are a bit nicer lately. But, then, the way you were treating Imperium Guy when he was still anonymous reminds me of the 'old you' that many among the community was complaining about. Seriously! The guy identified himself as Indian, and made some valid points (missing some, which you naturally latched upon), and you treated him like dirt. However, in that same string you 'turn nice' in recent posts! I'm glad to see the 'new you' emerging.

That being said, I see a problem with your removing a synopsis paragraph about the UIP simply because a link was provided. Unless the paragraph was in error, there is no need to remove it. I am not sure it can be called a "Successor State" (more like a continuing government, in my opinion), but if it is to be included as such, the general article should not be totally silent (sending the reader elsewhere) of its relationship to the others. Would the remarks about the other states be reduced to links if articles were provided? It is possible, but to me that would reduce the value of the gateway article.

Thanks for reading, and I hope you have a good day. SouthWriter 14:36, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for responding, though it was on my talk page, causing me to have to tax my short term memory to answer you here. :-) Anyway, I realize that the UIP synopsis was not necessary, but it was not necessary to remove the lines either. The fact that the section keeps mention of the UIP means that a few words there are not out of place. This is a case of "form over function" and somewhat of an insult to a new editor that is only trying to contribute. I think that the short paragraph should be reinstated as long as it does not assert non-canonical material. But that is just my opinion, for it seems that you are the present caretaker of the article. Just my thoughts. Again, have a good day. SouthWriter 17:01, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Recent Vandalism
I wonder if there is a way to restrict editing to registered usersOerwinde 06:01, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Either way I think its a good idea. If everyone who edits has an account its easier to contact them, makes more work for those like this guy who want to vandalise everything, and prevents a pet peeve of mine of *edit* "oh crap firefox logged me out" *log in, edit post, replace signature*. Oerwinde 06:34, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

American Empire
The creator of the timeline was anonymous so I was wondering if you (since you were a major player in writing it) whould like to continue the time line onto the Future Wiki?

Bobalugee1940 00:55, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

Bobalugee1940 08:11, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dark Brazilian Empire
Hello, I am the creator of alternative history Dark Brazilian Empire. I noticed you added categories to my page. Thanks for that. But you also added one of my pages to the category Alien Space Bats. I wonder what my story has to do with Alien Space Bats. Please do not think I'm angry. I'm just curious! - Eduardo Sellan Brazilian 17:45, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Improper Nomination
What the f&%k do you mean improper nomination I copy and pasted it! >:-(

Bobalugee1940 03:51, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Roman Empire survives
I have an idea for a timeline where the Roman EMpire survives to the present day. There are a couple of timelines where the Roman Empire manages to survive in different places (such as the British Isles and the Americas). I was just wondering if we could write one where the ROman Empire manages to hold on to it's homeland in the Italian Peninsula. Is there a way to make this a reality?

Yank 03:35, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Who do you recomend I talk to for a co-author? I like the France and North Africa options, but I have some questions. Yank 04:58, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) What would the North African enclave call itself? I can only think of one name, and I doubt they are going to name themselves after long-dead archrival Carthage. I can guess what the French enclave would call itself. Riffing off the "Brittanian Empire" I read about in one timeline, I come up with either the "Gallic Empire" or the "Gaulic Empire".
 * 2) Would the potential defeat of Clovis allow the Gauls to absorb the Franks? All it would take is Clovis meeting the fate of Harold II of England (death by combat).This would naturally make the Gallic language highly based in Latin.
 * 3) Would the North African enclave then be heavily settled by Greeks and Italians? And since the Arabs would have been stopped at the Sinai, that would mean that the North African tribal languages would be more influenced by Greek than by Arabic. And it would also mean that Eithiopia wouldn't be the only Christian nation in North Africa.
 * 4) What would be a good name for North Africa enclave survival timeline? I've basically decided I like that scenario best, and so am going to make that timeline first.

Oh and when the North African state defeats the Arabs can they reclaim all former territory in North Africa?

Yank 05:11, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Improper Nomination
Sorry for cursing but since I am apparently unable to properly fill out the nomination could you do it for me?

Bobalugee1940 05:21, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

RES
I just liked the idea of the Romans potentially turning the tide against the Arabs and absorbing the Arab territory in Africa (namely Egypt). Anyway, I realised that the chaos caused by Gaul's survival in Europe makes the French option more appealing to me now. If the Franks end up in Germany where do the Germanic people go? Do the Gauls end up with all (or most of) of France? What would be a good name for the Gaulic timeline? What other buterflies do you think could result fromthe timelines POD?

Yank 13:58, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you know of anyone who specializes in the kind of Roman/Medieval history needed for the Gallic timeline?

Yank 14:03, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

So in TTL the French language would be more closely related to German than to the French language of OTL? That's very interesting to know. I like the name "Frankland" myself, as it showcases how different the Frankish people of TTL are from the French of OTL. The Gauls intermarry into the Burgundian Kingdom, peacefully absorbing the country. I have some ideas for the nations created by this timeline.

There is also a Byzantine Empire, which is the OTL Byzantine Empire with better luck in the Middle East.

Yank 19:52, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Gallic Empire- Remnant of the Western Roman Empire, and the focus of this timeline. The capitol is Parisium, which is Paris in the medieval Latin of the time. Borders are roughly the equivilent of OTL
 * 2) Frankland- Gaulic Rome's equivilent to France. The capital is in Berlin, the name of which is unchaned because of the Frank language's Germanic nature. Borders are roughly equivilent to Germany, Austria and the western parts of Poland.
 * 3) Gothica- A nation evolved from the Visigoth kingdom in Spain. The capitol is Toledo. The borders roughly correspond to Spain and Portugal (plus Gibraltar).
 * 4) Austria- A nation evolved from the Ostrogoth Kingdom in Italy. The capital is Ravenna. The borders, pushed back by various conflicts, roughly correspond to Italy and Dalmatia.
 * 5) Angland- Without a WIlliam the Conqueror to conquer it, Angland is still under Anglo-Saxon rule. The capital is Lundenwic, which is the Anglo-Saxon name for London. The borders roughly correspond to those of England and Wales.
 * 6) Celtic Kingdom- A unified Celtic kingdom in the northern portions of the British Isles. The capital is Áth Cliath, which is the Irish name for Dublin. The borders roughly correspond to Ireland, Scotland and the Isle of Man.
 * 7) Germany- The Gaulic Rome equivlent of Germany. The capital is in Wilna, which is the German name for Vilinius. The borders roughly correspond to the Baltic states, East Prussia, and Finland.
 * 8) Hungary/Magyaria- The Gaulic Rome equivilent of Hungary. The capital is in Budapest like in OTL. The borders roughly correspond to the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania.
 * 9) Turkey- With the Byzantines more sucessful in their bid to stay alive, Turkey is far away from its OTL location. The borders roughly translate to the former Central Asian Republics of the Soviet Union.

thanks for editing on the eve of war it took me 3 hours to do it so i apreaciate any help

HI i wrote on the eve of war so could u tell me how to improve seeing as u said it made no sense

thanks

cheers for your advice it was really help full reich 1968 is an old artical so i dont care if its deleted. and ive edited on the eve of war so could u have a look i think its better

thanks again

Fishezinmasandvitch 15:44, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey LG
Hey LG, who is the maker of the Aetas ab Brian (can't spelll it right)? Ownerzmcown 23:32, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

hi

thanks for having another look at my timeline

could u please give me some advice to make it seem more plausible.

thanks

Fishezinmasandvitch 07:24, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

after days trying to sort out my timeline ive decided to put it on hold and try somethinf smaller

thanks for all you help Fishezinmasandvitch 16:44, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Random Maps Page
I hope that you dont mind my creating a map page, if its not please delete it. Please tell me what you think of it. DeanSims 00:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

World War II Ideas
Other than the Gallic Rome timeline (which I have not abandoned), I have some new ideas for timelines.

Poland Victorious- Due to various factors the Poles manage to defeat the German Blitzkrieg. Unbelieveable, but possible. Here's a summary of the timeline. Here are the main POD's for this timeline.
 * 1) Polish Secret Weapon- The Poles manage to invent a bazooka-type anti-tank weapon a few years early, and manage to deploy it widely (but secretly) by '39.
 * 2) Better Polish fighter jets- A brilliant Polish aircraft designer doesn't die in a plane crash. Thus Poland manages to design and build considerable amounts of a fighter jet in the same class as the ME109.
 * 3) Less Effective German Coding Devices- Through some burecratic error the Germans fail to reequip themselves with a new version of its coding machines.
 * 4) Surprising Intel Source- The Poles were allies with Japan for anti-Soviet reasons, which is why the Japanese allied with Germany later. The Japanese were fighting a border war with the Soviets, and saw the German pact with the SOviets to be a stab in the back. They end up leaking information on German movements to the Poles.

These factors allow the Poles to survive 1939. And since Hitler only survived the many assasination attempts through sheer luck. The chances of these coincidences happening in any other timeline are slim. Hitler is assasinated sometime in 1940 (perhaps the Ides of March?), and the new government manages to gain a ceasefire. The Soviets attack the Poles, and the war shifts into a war against communism. Butterflies include the Soviets getting paritioned, Nationalist China possibly surviving, and Mussolini's fascists staying in power in Italy. This may seem absurd until you read the page in the link. The author makes it plausible. What do you think? The idea behind the timeline

Yank 04:34, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Then let's have a short (but bloody) Civil War take place in Germany. We would have an Anti-War faction (lead by either Hess or Speer) win, and sign a cease fire. What other implausibilities do you see in the scenario? We have the opportunity to iron out the bugs set out by the author, as the original article is pretty much just a thought experiment on how to plausibly have the Poles defeat the Germans.

Yank 19:24, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Imperialist States of America
Good poit, can you help me a bit please, Im not the greatest when it comes to personal timelines, and I could realy use your help.

Thanks, DeanSims 15:15, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

You are mistaken. With their best soldiers fighting in East Asia (especially because of the Second Russo-Japanese War happening ATL), and much of their military leadership executed in the purges, the Soviet Army of '39 wasn't very formidable. They had large numbers of soldiers and equipment, but theirs was mostly a amateur army. Their officers were either inexperienced or afraid of taking any kind of initiative. The Western allies reluctance to take direct action was one of the factors that caused Poland to fall to Hitler and Stalin. Believe it or not, but the Polish DID have a tacit alliance with the Japanese (again for Anti-Soviet reasons), and they could have given the Poles intel on German movements. How much this affects the conflict remains to be seen. Shaped charges and short-range rockets had been around since WWI. All it would have took was a Polish inventor to realize that shaped charges would be useful against armor.

Yank 16:45, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Then let's focus on making Gallic Rome a reality. Can I depend on you helping me create the basic pages needed for the timeline?

Yank 17:20, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I've started the Gallic Rome portal page, and I'm going to create the pages for the nations of the timeline. I would really like it if you would help me on creating the timeline page.

NOTE: I've decided that it would be interesting if the Gauls reclaimed the Italian homeland as well as the Benelux nations. It would be a plausible reason for the Byzantine to not spend the effort to conquer the region. And they would be less overextended in doing so.

Yank 00:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Gallic Rome
I'm going to go for the Romans fighting at a different time. What if Clovis isn't killed in the battle, but it does discourage him from attempting to conquer Gaul? He instead turn his attention to the Germanic states to the east, and conquers them. The Merovingians thus are still the Kings of Frankland (OTL Germany and southern Poland). The conquering of the German states forces the Germans to resettle in OTL northern Poland and the Baltic states.

Yank 01:46, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I confess that I do not know who "Ragnachar" is. What is his significance?

Yank 02:01, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Imperialist America
Can you help with a major argument over wether a post is possible or not? Its the Prussian post of 1831.

Bobalugee1940 02:09, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind we've fixed it.

Bobalugee1940 02:13, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

categories
I put the paramilitary tag on purpose, the klavaliers are not soldiers. --Marcpasquin 18:06, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Still, they are not military, they just happen to wear uniforms. Please don't revert my categorising again.--Marcpasquin 21:01, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Mate, this is getting annoying. They are not part of the military. Just wearing a uniform doesn't make you part of it. I can't block you from editing the page but at least show enough respect not to revert it.--Marcpasquin 15:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * By your logic, anyone wearing a uniform that look military would be part of that category including policemen and salvos. the point of having categories is to make it easier to find related items, putting all together defeat the purpose. Marcpasquin 22:05, August 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I tried to be reasonable but when someone explain why something is wrong and you still insist on changing that persons page, thats just rude. Marcpasquin 22:45, August 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know I can't block you, I said so above. I thought that might get your bloody attention because seriously you're having trouble behaving mate.


 * I changed it because you used the WRONG category. The Klavaliers are NOT military, they're just civilians in uniforms which as I explain above would, by your logic, include a hell of a lot of people who are not, also, militarymen.


 * I don't understand what is so hard for you to comprehend about the situation and why you insist on putting the WRONG category after I explained why it was so. Marcpasquin 01:13, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * By all mean, go to the group. Marcpasquin 02:03, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well this isn't doing well and maybe the approach wasn't the right one so, while the meds are still acting, to solve the problem, how's this: Lets put it to a vote. I'll set up a page on the forum, I'll put up my "con" view, you can put your "pro" one and we'll give the community a week to chose. I promise I'll accept the decision if you promise the same. Marcpasquin 22:46, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Community based decision making is a great way to go about solving a problem unless you believe that admins are some sort of elite.


 * So, beside me simply giving up, what do you propose be done to find an agreable decision ? Marcpasquin 05:20, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Reversing Edits by Anons
Ohh... For the next time, indeed i will do. Ok :) Regards! --Katholico 18:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

*taps foot at Lordganon*
Sorry, but I have been gone for the past few days. Now I am completely exhausted because I just had to clean up Venusian Haven from all of Imperium Guy's editing. Can you do me a favor and check out what I did, and tell me if I am going crazy or not. Please and thank you. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 21:40, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Images
Categorizing like that has almost become a habit, but noted. :) Which sort of files should go into Category:Images then? --XterrorX 04:12, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Adoption of the New Ottoman Empire Timeline
Is ti alright if i adopt the NOE Timeline, I noticed it was open for adoption and I wuold like to expand it. Please reply when you get a chance.

Thanks,

DeanSims 14:28, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

OK Thanks, I just wanted to make sure, Ive never done an adoptiion before so I havnt seen how it works.

DeanSims 14:56, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Vive la Monarchie
Other timelines do it such as a step in a different direction. Bobalugee1940 17:28, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Name
whould VLM be okay? Bobalugee1940 20:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

but corner-cutting is a national passtime. Bobalugee1940 20:15, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Spamming?
I have done this in the past, as have other people, and yet you said nothing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:46, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Flags
That was OTL? I made that in paint by removing the black from the africa union flag. Bobalugee1940 21:22, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Alaska Edits
Thanks for taking care of those edits. I didn't know who was 'in charge' of the article, so I had just left those notes on the talk page. SouthWriter 14:10, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

World War II Timeline Ideas
I have a few ideas for a couple of WWII alternate histories. Let me know what you think of them.
 * Allied Japan- Japan is a member of the Allies, not the Axis. What if the American's signed an alliance with Japan shortly after the country was opened?
 * Vichy France Survives- The fascist regime manages to survive World War II. The regime stays neutral during WWII, like the Nationalists in Spain.
 * Yank 19:21, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hey I understand. The Vichy France one was just an idea I was struck with. I have to admit I love the idea of a Rome-Berlin-Moscow Axis instead of a Rome-Berlin-Tokyo Axis. One of the butterflies I can see is a different situation in East Asia. Yank 20:22, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Russian Far East- The Soviets would definitely lose Vladivostok if Japan attacked them. And that was one of the few things of tactical value in that portion of the country. The Japanese would still posess the island of Karafuto (also known as Sakhalin in Russian) and the Kuriles.
 * Manchuria- The Japanese puppet state of Manchuria still survives to this day. Undoubtably they would have grown enough in the years between WWII and the present day to gain status as a legitimate country rather than a puppet state. The Chinese might focus their attention into re-absorbing other former parts of the country such as Mongolia and Sinkiang. Tibet may stay independant.
 * China- As the Soviets are an enemy combatant in this timeline the Chinese Communists would also be considered enemies. This means that the Chinese would have allied support in stamping out Mao's followers. It would be quite ironic if they ended up in Taiwan like how the Nationalists did OTL.

Scotland and the Clans
Do you know of anyone on the wiki familiar with Scotland and the Scottish Clans?

KingSweden 20:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

1983 DD
Is it possible to create a new nation in 1983 DD? Bobalugee1940 01:27, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Navigation
Could you tell me how to make a template. I havent learned how. Hidan43vr 00:18, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. One question though, when you edit a template on the template page will it change everywhere the template is being used? I hope so. Hidan43vr 21:56, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, why not. Hidan43vr 20:52, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

I like navigation templates now. :3 Hidan43vr 22:50, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Holycrap!
Rebelsoldier just made a mapgame on future.wikia.com. Should I tell the admins or wait for his implauogasms?

Bobalugee1940 23:14, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I Have a Question
If a colony wants independance but is still cooperative with its mother country, can you still draft soldiers from there. Its in Axis vs Allies Revised at the bottom of the page, please get back to me when you can.

Thanks,

DeanSims 15:02, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

The War
Hey LG, I believe we said we would start the war between Macedonia and Serbia sometime in late-August, right? What are your throughts? Ownerzmcown 23:49, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

C/C
In other words, I am to allow Yank to say I deserve to burn in Hell because I am a Conservative? That is a real twisted sense of Justice.

God Bless the United States of America 21:33, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Strange, if I am not mistaken saying that I deserve to rot in Hell because I am a Conservative is an attack on my beliefs.Trash? So defending honest Americans from downright vulgar, and stupid comments means that what I said is trash? LG, Yank said I deserved to burn in Hell, I said nothing of the sort.I confronted him with facts, and yet you blame his trolling on me.An AH website is not the place to vent your Politics.

Just because Mitro didn't do anything, doesn't mean you shouldn't.If everbody followed that logic, we would all be dead.You should have the intgerity to stand up for what is right, and say "This isn't right.".I have faith in you, and I hope that faith can be confirmed.

Lastly, what page are you talking about?

God Bless the United States of America 21:58, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

My User page? What the heck are you talking about?

Oh, so it's alright if he says it in general.LG, that is laughable.If I said all Liberals should rot in Hell, I would have been banned.Yet, Yank "Was just a bit angered"?This is a double standard in favor of an older editor.My facts were fake? Look them up, you can confirm them anywhere!

1. The Libyan Mission is Unconstitutional.Under the War Powers Act of 1973, the President has 60 days to get Congressional approval for a Military operation.The 60 days past in May.That my friend, is a violation of the Law.Obama shoud be impeached for breaking the law, just like any other American.

2.Under the Obama adminstration, the US National Debt has gone from 11 Trillion, to nearly 15 Trillion.It is expected to reach 16 before he is voted out of office.

I said another one, but I can't recall it.

If I said a "Unasked political opinion" like Yank, I would have been banned.This is a freakin Alternate History site, not Media Matters, or Fox News.

In other words, an insult that is two years old is not an insult? I have enough intergity to challenge a troll, and I would expect the admins to do the same.

God Bless the United States of America 23:20, August 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, those guys forgot all about that NC/NC thing, didn't they? It looks like Yank made those remarks right after I joined the group.  I had forgotten  he was so young back then - about the age of GB right now, in fact.  I wonder how anyone that young can have such hard and fast opinions.  You'd think they'd be enjoying life instead of worrying about politics.  They are parroting adults, for sure, but for goodness sake, how can they be so passionately vitriolic in their statements.


 * For the record, I think GB was within his rights to be offended and even say so. He probably came upon the timeline by chance and found the concept rather shocking. I found the talk about the "blue states" separating a bit amusing myself.  The 'letter to the Red States" was quite revealing, though it had a lot of statistics that needed to be checked.  GB's letter to the Blue States was politically motivated, for sure, but it was actually better written than the rambling list of statistics than the first 'letter.'


 * Yank's rant in return, attacking Bush like he was still in office and Yank was a political commentator, was so much more political. You did well to take down the exchange.  I would have done the same if I had seen it first.  I had realized that Yank was liberal, but I did not know he was THAT Liberal.  I missed most of his rants in the early days, and he has definitely mellowed since that rant to which GB responded.  We certainly don't need that kind of stuff on the wikia if we can help it. SouthWriter 02:08, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Columbus Stranded
Lordganon, what is the absolute latest time that the Euros could've discovered America. The main reason that I said 1912 is because I personally found it funny that I could have the Titanic discover America. The Chinese and Ivans I have little concern over becuase I was thinking that the Spaniards could've integrated with the Aztecs and all them to create a very strong fighting force with European tactics. I was also wishing to explore how the two whould've been different if they had almost 400 years more to develop independently and how the Spanish whould influence the natives over 400 years by themselves. Bobalugee1940 01:47, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Continents
Whould anything really be different if the Earth's continents were devided like this:

If so how could the alternate names come up, if not still how could those names occur?

EDIT: I forgot to put continents as a heading

Nuclear Apocalypse
Is it okay to adopt the "Nuclear Apocalypse" time-line? I asked the creator and go no reply in a week, and waited another 3 days after asking for objections on the portal page of the time-line (there was no objections). I just want to be on the safe side, hence why I asking before I go on and adopt. 9 もりや すわこ 19:29, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

#1
What if the constitution didn't stipulate that a state's government needed to be a republic?

#2
Can I make a 1983: Doomsday map game?

#3
What if America didn't give Florida back to Spain after the American revolution?

#4
What if Muhammed preached in India instead of the Middle East (for reasons unknown) and the Muslim conquests were directed to the East instead of West, and the Islamic holy city being in Varanasi?

Bobalugee1940 22:23, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
I suggest you look into 212.87.7.240, 202.85.217.124 and 128.208.96.10. These anonymous "contributors" have left oddly similar vandalism on the site in the last couple of hours. --XterrorX 01:12, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * And 163.30.176.10. Flag_of_South_Korea.pngang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:15, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * And 213.10.118.68 and 195.7.32.214. More keep showing up. --XterrorX 02:05, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, good to know. --XterrorX 14:22, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Egypt
Yes feel free to 'Babysit' the Egypt page--Smoggy80 18:26, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is an election due on the 15th September 2011, I would like Prince Muhammed Ali Sa'id to be elected President, with Abdul Mohammed Bayoumi as the Vice President.

Apart from that you have free reign --Smoggy80 19:02, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Alright, LG. I'll categorize them right in the future, and thanks for telling me. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 19:50, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, LG, I really thank you a lot. So we are currently trying to put all the OTL Flags category into Flags category? PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:23, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

So should I also not take images from the OTL Flags category and move them into the Flags category? PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:37, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:46, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

LG, I need you Help
LG, I read you message and I'm in trouble! How does one go about obtaining permission to add a infobox to the Peedee Nation (1983: Doomsday) article? I also asking for your help with creating such when/if I get said permission. I also will be needing help on the Denmark (1983: Doomsday) article, it won't let me change the section about Greenland and the Faeroes, I have a cruddy computer! Thanks for being paticient (spelling?) with my edits and my poor English...

A medium sized request.
What do you think of my timeline in L'Uniona Homanus especially among the Native Americans and the Asians, these links go to the latest not the first page of their respective timelines. Where are some places you think I can go. I don't know if you think of yourself as a particularly creative person but if you had some ideas I'd love the fuel to jumpstart me back into creating the timelines. Thanks.Hidan43vr 22:46, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been trying to progress the Asian timeline the most because they're behind many of the others in time so that I can put a world map for a single part of time. I recently started school again and I definitely plan to make a larger explosion in the North American tribes, thats actually what we're learning about. However, I may not be able to update as fast so any new Timeline pages may come slower. This gives me plenty of ideas and I can't wait for you guys to see it. :) Hidan43vr 10:20, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Czarina Anastasia
One of the ideas I've had for a while is of an restoration of the Russian monarchy following the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991. The potential POD is one of the Romanovs escaping while they had a chance. I'm intrigued by the idea of it be Anastasia, as she seems to be the only one of the family who could have survived to 1991. She was young enough to potentially be able to live long enough, and she was healthy enough to do so as she didn't have hemophilia like her brother. Another potential way for the Romanovs to survive is if they had an external territory to flee to. The POD of that timeline is that the Alaska Purchase falls through, and the Romanovs flee to Alaska to establish the Empire of Alaska.

Yank 04:52, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Alien Space Bats?
I would like an explanation on why you keep changing the Cold War on my Stubborn Stalin page to Alien Space Bats.

Young Zepol


 * LG, I have read the whole time line. There is absolutely NO "Alien Space Bat" character to the 'Stubborn Stalin' time line.  You may disagree with YZ's interpertation of history, but that does not warrent the ASB 'treatment.'  Stalin did not have any visions or any visitors from outer space.  He just decided that he wanted to keep Berlin.  It was far into "his" half of Germany, and so it was his to keep.  He stated later in life that dividing the ciy was a mistake.   Again, no outside influence is even hinted at.


 * The use of the "ASB" category as a statement of disagreement is a form of harassment. It is an insult to the editor of the site and needs a very good explanation. I am going to remove the "Alien Space Bats" category, and if it appears again without a good explanation on the talk page, I will have to consider disciplinary actions with the other administrators. SouthWriter 15:10, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Wallachia (1983: Doomsday)
I just got an idea for a nation in the 1983: Doomsday timeline. It's a ressurrection of the old Principality of Wallachia. The way I see it, not all Romanians are going to be flocking towards Transylvania. There's bound to be at least some people opposed to them. I just don't know wether to make it an enclave of the pre-Doomsday Communist government or a direct restoration of the old Principality (through a false heir). I'm placing it in Dâmbovița County, Romania which I think avoids the strikes to the east quite nicely. I'm also thinking of including parts of the other nearby counties (besides the totally destroyed capital district). What do you think of that idea?

Yank 02:15, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'll need some help writing some parts of the article. I can't really figure out how to word the government section, and I don't know what the economy of the region I've claimed for Wallachia is.

Yank 04:30, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

What? Then why does the map still show "Romanian claims"? It doesn't make any sense!

Yank 04:37, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

The article gives no indication the the Transylvanians control anything beyond the dark green on the map. The map shows a bunch of uncontrolled but "claimed" territory, the OTL equivilent is only the vague "Western Romania" and the History section gives no indication of a massive campaign of expansion. It looks like they could encounter a state like Wallachia.

Yank 04:42, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know where can find the flags.

Sorry
I don't know where can find the flags. Sorry :) Jordan Chang 08:11, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

It means I can upload images, but need to change name?

Jordan Chang 08:17, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Also, thank you for your add Category for my pages :)

Jordan Chang 08:19, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

RE
Ok. Im just trying tonget my name out there.

YZ

RE
Can you get rid of that category for me please. Im on my ipad and cant do that. Thanks.

Young Zepol

Wallachia (1983: Doomsday)
I just wanted to create a small nutball dictatorship. Where would it be best to place it? I'd be perfectly happy to redress Wallachia as a dictatorship in another part of the world.

Yank 00:36, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Doomsday Joining
Hi Lordganon. sorry to bother you but I was wondering if I could pick up the area around Shanghai in doomsday. I know the city was hit but I'm thinking maybe the blast was off target and only hit the city with an airblast and radiation. Is it possible that I start a page for that?? Scandinator 11:20, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Do ya think that the UIP would launch more invasions since the last one was launched 2 years ago? And wouldn't India have captured Bhutan to capture Sikkim?? (sorry, just being a little inquisitive,lolrl). :D Imperium Guy 21:14, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Back burners as in breakaway states? :D Imperium Guy 21:23, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I acknowledge the city was destroyed but maybe many people living on the outskirts surprived?? If that isn't allowed I'll just start from Ningbo or Hangzhou.Scandinator 21:36, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I've decided to start as a nation called Zhejiang in OTL north Zhejiang province and south Jiangsu province. Scandinator 06:53, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

The nearby blasts were Dinghai and Shanghai. Hangzhou and Ningbo were untouched by bombs but Ningbo received radiation. I'm starting it this weekend... also the winds during September blow north so the majority of radiation escaped the region. Also the people of Ningbo migrated slowly west and north due to the ligering effects of the blast in Dinghai so no presence was left on the coast. This is to connect with the story from the USS Benjamin Franklin. Scandinator 08:34, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok then!! :D Imperium Guy 09:30, September 15, 2011 (UTC)