User talk:Arstarpool



Changes
Alex, welcome to the wiki. I saw your changes on the WCRB Southern U.S. article and undid them. I wanted to explain why. It's not that they weren't good suggestions, but the article is intended to be the text of a historical document in the 1983: Doomsday timeline. It wouldn't be updated like you and I update articles on this wiki. That said, the document is going to be wrong in some areas, incomplete in others, and that's fine. I wrote the article as a guide for editors like yourself to use in creating scenarios, and in TTL it showed what was known of the region at the time it was written last fall. Updating it to reflect newly discovered nations would be unrealistic for TTL; the WCRB probably will publish updates on a regular basis, but won't constantly revise the main article. To your changes: 1. please write up the Conch Republic as a proposal...and do one separately for Key West (if they're not one and the same) 2. I estimated 90 percent of people having died on Doomsday in America, but that could be too high of a number; 80 or even 70 percent might be closer to the truth 3. You might want to make sure Key West wouldn't have gotten hit by nukes, or covered with radiation and fallout from the south Florida and Cuban blasts...I'd like to read your ideas on how the region made it through, and got to 10,000 people 4. The Cubans discovered the Coke formula (which was canon long before I started here, so I rolled with it when I wrote the WCRB article), and I see no reason to have Mexicans test it... --BrianD 06:11, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

The reason i say that the recipe was discovered by Mexicans, which, correct me if I'm wrong, were also part of the discovery team, the Cubans were under embargo, which would mean they would not know the taste of coke. I am not saying this from historical standards, but I happen to be a Cuban American and I know for a fact Coke was not in Cuba during those times.

The reason I say Key West is, there are less than 10,000 permanent residents and there is NOTHING out there. The closest you will come to anything being out there is a couple of retirement villages and fishing destinations.

Eighty Percent is justifiable because there were about 220 million people during that time. Do the math.

I do hope that I have provided some justification, and I hope this come across well. Arstarpool 04:43, May 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * You've clarified well the Coke/Cuba issue. I don't remember the editor who created the Cuba article and wrote the Coca-Cola item into Cuba's history; I can only guess he was ignorant (as was I) that Coca-Cola was not distributed in any manner in Cuba. One possible solution is that as Cuba makes contact with other Caribbean and Central American nations in the 80s and 90s, some people from those countries join the exploration team (places where Coke was sold), and they confirm the taste...but Cuba ends up getting the credit. I'm fine with 80 percent, but I would ask you to run that by the other editors on the timeline. I might revise that number down further, too. Alex, again, welcome to the blog and I hope that I myself have come across well in my responses. Thank you for your contributions and for your clarifications! BrianD 07:12, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Florida
As a fellow Floridian would you like to work on the Everglades survivor nation together? I already started a proposal for it. --GOPZACK 03:01, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, I would love to start work on the Everglades. Arstarpool 03:02, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Great, I called it the. I was thinking the borders could be as follows. --GOPZACK 03:08, March 17, 2010 (UTC)





I agree that it should contain more territory in the everglades but some of it will be uninhabitable due to the strikes on Homestead. Plus those cites on the coast would have survived so it's most plausible that people there would band together as one to survive. --GOPZACK 03:36, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Isent it time for South Florida to spread, I mean I think some people might of lived around Tampa and Miami from the nuked, and what about the Keys, were they nuked, I was trying to see if they got destroyed...I was thinking about making a some type of republic and then trying to reunite all of Florida, with your help and GOPZACK, I am also new at this and I'm trying to learn. Perryz101 04:38, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, but the only problem is that our little Republic of South Florida isn't even canon yet. Canon means it is not official, but for now, feel free to edit it as much as you want Perryz, so long as it is believable. FYI, the Keys were nuked, as well as Tampa and Miami. The only problem I have with your idea is that you are trying to reunite thousands of miles of land in a heartbeat. I understand that you are new, but you have to look around the site and look at all the talk pages and see how much time it takes for decisions to be made around here. I know I shouldnt be one to talk since I have only been here for exactly 1 month, lol. Anyways, PLEASE send me a message if you need help or if you want to team up with the rest of us, because I would really enjoy helping you. Arstarpool 19:58, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I see...I will try and learn, and I will work on the story on North Florida, thanks I think I will enjoy this wiki.Perryz101 05:48, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking of somthing, maybe sending recon missions into the Tampa and Miami areas and finding if some type of order is in the area and maybe get the people to join South Florida.Perryz101 02:57, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I had already written something on Tampa and Miami, and yes there are very small communities there. Please read through the Republic of South Florida arcticle and you will see what is on those areas. Arstarpool 03:08, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Would you like South and North Florida to have some type of contact with each other??Perryz101 03:10, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

How about this: In two days real time On April 10, 2010, recon groups from South Florida will be sailing through the Gulf, near North Florida, where they run into a band of fishers who claim to be from The Repubic of North Florida. Sound good to you? Arstarpool 03:14, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good.Perryz101 03:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Rome
Sure I'd love to help! Thank you for the opportunity. I'm going to do some research into the suburbs of Rome & I'll get back to you with a few ideas. What ideas do you have? GOPZACK 20:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

If I were you I'd look into a survior nation in these areas.

I actually just did some work on it. I've just been on the sidelines letting you fill it out for a bit. --GOPZACK 00:35, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Indiana revert
Thanks for the revert. I worked hard making those changes to help the "Newbie" get his article half-way presentable. He is no writer. But he wants to put a good face on his home state. SouthWriter 06:08, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome to reverting the changes. I would have marked this on your talk page, but seeing that he frequents your talk page like your his momma bird, I would not want him to get offended. "Newbie", however, is not the case, its the individual. While the rest of the "newbies" have worked towards becoming significant members of the site, Perryz has continued to have this attitude thinking that everything is alright in this wiki. For example, the very first article he made was "North Florida" stating it will be temporary until " we unite all of Florida". This was on his first day, mind you, and he thinks we are reuniting thousands of square miles in days. While I do not want to be the bully of the playground, I will state that he is ignorant, and continues to act like we are going to pop all of our little countries together any minute now. He does this again with his Indiana article, like when he wants the counties annexed by Kentucky to become "hoosiers" again. What he doesn't get though, is that other people beat him to the punch and claimed whatever he wanted first, so he comes up what in his eyes is a solution, which is usually making an article like North Florida (which I cannot believe is about to become canon). While it is none of my buisness, he seems to be kid, judging by the way he spells, and that should not be an excuse for him. If you need help getting his little articles in order, I'm free to help. Arstarpool 06:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks again. I am trying to give Perry the benefit of doubt in Indiana, since he is from there. I try not to change the meaning of his statements, but just expand them a little to add coherence. Somethings I do change things without specifically asking, like changing a threatened "excommunication" by Baptists to losing one's spot on the deacon board. I am a deacon in a Presbyterian church (not quite the same, but I know how church leadership works). I also differenciated between Independent Baptists and Convention-associated ones. I know how both work, having family ties with both.


 * With North Florida, it is a combination of my editing and Zack's continued interest with the article that has kept that alive. Perry decided that he did not know enough about Florida to continue working on that one. Back to Indiana, I think he might be able to build an article based on a city-state around Lafayette with what he knows, but he doesn't understand what this timeline is all about.


 * You're certainly welcome to go over there and clean up some grammar, and make suggestions on improving things. It will free me up to do a little work on the states in the PUSA. Have you seen what I did with Montana? I am working on the revised Constitution on the PUS article right now. SouthWriter 19:15, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Commonwealth of California
I marked it as obsolete based on comments on the article's talk page and the fact that there was support for its obsoletion on the main talk page. If you feel it still has a chance that is fine, I even reinstated the proposal template (the already has a process in place for situations when someone wants to revitalize an obsolete article). Good luck. Mitro 22:27, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * First off, I already did change it back to a proposal so I am not sure why we are still having this conversation. Second off, I followed the same procedure that has always been used when marking an article obsolete. Seeing that more than one user doubted the plausibility of the article on it's talk page, I moved to mark it as obsolete on the main talk page. After waiting a significant amount of time, and receiving a vote in support of marking it obsolete from another user, I placed the obsolete template on it. Where were you and Yank when this was happening? Both of you have used the main talk page before, did you not notice it? If either of you had spoke up when this was happening we would not have been having this conversation in the first place. Learning from this experience I will probably in the future contact an article's creator when I move to mark an article as obsolete. The fact of the matter is you your article is a proposal again, but I reccomend paying more attention to the main talk page more in case anyone has any comments or questions for your articles. Mitro 00:21, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wisconsin
You have my permission to adopt the article. However, I ask that you keep to what is stated in the history of the Republic of Superior, and also to what I had planned in the discussion page of the Wisconsin article. Other than that you have free reign. Lahbas 04:15, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Population of South Florida
Zack and I spent a long time discussing the population of South Florida, with input from both South and Loius (South was the one who suggested a number between 50k and 100k). It was agreed that the most plausible population was 86k, you can see some of the discussion in the archives and the South Florida talk page. The article was graduated with that population level and I don't see why it should just be unilaterally changed just because you disagree. If you feel it should be changed, start a discussion and build some consensus. Mitro 01:53, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

North Florida
I noticed your comments on Perryz101's page. I just want to say that I think North Florida is still a viable nation. I agree with you that they will never reunited but as two separate nations they can still coexist and be friendly neighbours with a trade deal or something. Me and SouthWriter are still "cleaning up" the article when we can. I noticed your edit to the "Foreign Relations" section & I thank you for it. Your welcome to help us reform it further. If you'd like to make a major change mention it on my page, South's or the talk page. --GOPZACK 18:38, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Help
Hi Arstapool i write you to ask you if you can help me creating articles and expanding my new article Balkanized North America VENEZUELA 01:34, May 22, 2010 (UTC)