Vive La Revolution Reloaded! (Map Game)

Hello and welcome to Vive La Revolution Reloaded (or VRR) RWG and I decided to revive this game after the last one inexplicably died. Please be fair and remember to be plausible!

Rules

 * 1) The word of the Mods is law, unless you can prove them conclusively wrong
 * 2) Players can control one nation only
 * 3) There will be an algorithm based on the one in Axis vs. Allies used for Player vs. Player wars
 * 4) One turn per day when a mod starts the turn, only mods can start turns!
 * 5) The game will start in 1789 during the French Revolution
 * 6) Each turn will be a full year unless otherwise stated
 * 7) PLEASE NO IMPLAUSIBILITY!
 * 8) Look carefully for any map changes
 * 9) Only mods/mapmakers can edit maps
 * 10) Don't edit your turn AFTER you post
 * 11) RNGs have to be done by mods
 * 12) RNGs must have an 80% chance of being NO.
 * 13) Have fun!

Mods
{C}Sign up here and wait to have an (ACCEPTED) mark by your name

1: AwesomePeruvian 00:10, May 5, 2012 (UTC) Head Mod (Game Reviver)

2: RandomWriterGuy 23:15, May 7, 2012 (UTC)(Accepted)

3: Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:15, May 5, 2012 (UTC) (ACCEPTED)

4: Enclavehunter 00:29, May 5, 2012 (UTC) (ACCEPTED)

Mapmakers(Not Mods, but can if they already are)

1:AwesomePeruvian 16:52, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

2:Monster Pumpkin 16:39, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

3:Enclavehunter 01:16, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Issues with the Map
{C}{C {C}Aztlan is the darker shade of Spain's color but is part of the Spanish Commonwealth, so it has a united foreign policy with Spain, but can control its own internal affairs.

France had expanded its colonies to a much larger size, but not by much. Enclavehunter 03:53, May 31, 2012 (UTC) I'm sorry to sound complainy, but Mecklenburg still isn't coloured in. It's that patch of white between that purple splodge and Brandenburg. And the (small) Mecklenburg colony in Africa should be coloured in. Callumthered 23:06, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

MP message me the changes you are planning on making before you upload a new map. Sorry I didnt tell you this before.--AP

Nations
{C}Please no newbies may play as the following nations, we don't want to mess these games up. To play as these, you must: 1 Have played at least 4 map games 2 Have a good record on these map games

NO NEWBIES FOR:

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Prussia, China, and the USA

Europe
 Great Britain: AwesomePeruvian 00:10, May 5, 2012 (UTC)





'''Fun Fact 2: Me too! I always hold the Ottoman Empire!'''

Hooray for Fun Facts!

















Asia
The Ottoman Empire:  Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:15, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Qing Dynasty (China): Ianian58 01:16, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Japan: Andr3w777 03:40, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Siam: 77topaz 03:29, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Persia:-

Mughal Empire: defeated 

North America
The United States of America: Monster Pumpkin 01:14, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

The Dominion of Aztlan: DeanSims 19:31, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

South America
Viceroyalty of New Granada: Nkbeeching 

Viceroyalty of Brazil: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:Waroftheworld

Viceroyalty of Peru:Sasafred12

Viceroyalty of Rio de La Plata:

1789
The French Revolution is in full swing, France is thrown into chaos

Russia defeats the Turks at Rymnik.

Spain: Spain undergoes liberal reforms under its new king due to the influence of the French Revolution. The country establishes economic, social, and political reforms, turning the coutnry into a constitutional monarchy. The environment also allows capitalism, industries, and the economy to thrive. Improvements are made to the navy and the military. Infrastructure, education, and health are spread all across its empire. They allow their colonies to have a degree of self-rule.

France: French Revolutionaries storm the Brastille, an proud symbol of the King's power, and freed the prisoners there, adding to the ranks of the Revolutionary Army. Meanwhile, the King continues to send the military to suppress uprisings in peaceful states, causing the French army to be stretched then. In Corisca, Coriscian nationalists attempt to free their Island, but ally with the Revolutionaries after the leaders of the Revolutionary Army agree to give Corisca an autonomous province of France, in exchange for their help against the King.

Brandenburg:Brandenburg breaks off from prussia under the rulership of frederick the third, who is much beloved by the people calling itself the Mark of brandenburg. it names berlin as its capital, and keeps a watchful eye on prussia just in case it tries to force brandenburg back into prussia by force. under public pressure from the population the countries laws are fairly liberal allowing the people much freedom.

Prussian Response: It declares war on Brandenburg to ensure they remain back into the union.

'''Was that a mod response? Because there is no player next to Prussia.'''

DoM-S Diplomacy: The Duchy sends a small detachment to assist the brandenburgers and counter Prussian influence in the region.

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Duke, Frederick Francis, is worried by the revolutionary activities in France. Despite much opposition from his nobles, he opens a parliament. Whilst it has limited powers, it is elected by universal (male) sufferage. The military undergoes the first of many modernisations, with their out of date uniforms being replaced with modern ones: Shakos, green tunics with yellow lining, and new boots.

Quing Dynasty: Recent economic decline forces the dynasty to impose very harsh domestic messures in the east, and worried about recent lack of modernization in the military, and China as a whole, the emperor orders the creation of a group of researchers to investigate and research European Warships, Weaponry, and Cannons along with their other major cities. It refuses to open it's ports to any European nation. It thinks of expanding to other parts of the world, but decides a war would be too costly, farmers are unhappy about tough domestic stances.

Moghul Empire: Centrist moderates with the go ahead of the emperor's son slaughter most of the current ministers and the emperor in what is known as one of the cruelest massacres in the area with over 230 members of the previous government and countless nobles being assasinated, the moderates backed by a fair portion of the army mainly Hindus begin fighting against the ramnents of the old regime plunging the indian subcontinent into civil war.the government requests firearms and aid from the ottomans to deal with the cruel betrayal. while the moderates begin fighting along coastal areas to cut off supplies from the exterior.

Ottoman Empire: Ends the Russo-Turk War. Invades the Arabian Peninsula and takes 1/5. (Come on, people on horseback swordfighting with noamds!)

1790
Leopold III tkes the crown of the Holy Roman Empire.

Russia defeats the Turks at Izmail.

King Louis XVI agrees to make certain reforms, though no one is please just enough.

'''The Russo-Swedish War ends. '''

​Spain: The country undergoes a liberal revolution from the people, who peacefully protets for more reforms. The country, knowing that the influence of the French Revolution is at full swing, apply to their demands right on. They enact their Bill of Rights similar to the United States. The economic reforms start to get Spain back into better shape, though there is still progress to be made. The government encourages settlements in the northern and southern fronteirs by leasing the land for free as long as anyone would work on it.

Russia: The Russian army continues to fight the Swedish, but asks for a peace treaty. Until we get a reply, our troops will continue to fight. Meanwhile, the miltary is built up.

'''War end last turn. AP, I strongly suggest that you no longer follow OTL events to the word.'''

'''Okay. I won't, just this time era isn't my best era. Also, I am assuming you are talking about the Swedish War, 'cause I just saw a mod event for the Turkish War.TacoCopper'''

'''I am talking about the Turkish War. And I was talking to AP when he writes the mod events.'''

Oh, I am going to fix my turn now.TacoCopper

France: French Revolutionaries sieze Marsille, and the surrounding countryside, and establish the First French Republic, but only has firm control over Marsille. King Louis XVI makes reforms, but do not go according to plan, and cause the people to resist even more. French Revolutionaries recieve aid from Denmark-Norway and the Kingdom of Mysore, which they did support the Revolutionaries in OTL.

Moghul Empire: Forces loyal to the muslim elitists in india beat back the rebel forces led by the former king's son in Dehli but lose ground in south india were there presence isnt so strong and begin purge disloyal subjects to the king's elder son the newly declared king of the empire.more of the country falls into unrest.

Ottoman Repsonse: The Ottoman Empire sends aid to the Muslims in the Mughal Empire. (They are the legitimate government right now, right?)

Brandenburg: king frederick, aware of the looming prussion invasion, calls on the conscripts to swell the ranks of his army, as well as hiring swiss mercanaries to train them and fight along side them. he also promisies the people that if they survive the wr with prussia he will impliment a parliment to deal wth issues concerning the people. he also asks the dutchy of Mecklenburg-schwerin for an alliance to help them both survive. on the civil side more work is put into agriculture and the capital of berlin is expanded

DoM-S: We accept the alliance and remind the Brandenburgers of the troops sent last year.

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: Duke Frederick Francis travels to Vienna to welcome the new Holy Roman Emperor. The second wave of military modernisation begins, with the infantry receiving the latest muskets, and new artillery. The parliament passes a bill creating Turnpike trusts, in order to upgrade the Duchy's rubbish roads. Britain, Portugal and Spain are asked for an alliance and trade agreement.

​Spanish Diplomacy: It agrees.

British Diplomacy: We agree.

Britain: '''King Edward warns Prussia to stand down and stop threatening Brandenburg or it'll make itself a very powerful enemy in the process. Meanwhile, the economy is prospering and all keeps going well for the Empire.'''

Just saying, the King in 1790 was George III.

New Spain: New Spanish citizens, who now secretly call themselves "Aztalns", see the Spanish reforms for what they truly are, an attempt by Spain to keep its Empire together under a thinly vield offer of liberalism. Aztaln nationalists see this as an insult and begin encouraging other Aztalns to join the Cause of Indepndance, and the ranks swell with vollunteers. Plans for the Revolution to begin to take shape as ideals of American goverment and how there people are treated also helps the ranks grow; and as Spains attempts at keeping its empire together, instead of making the people happy, make them poised against the Spanish Crown. A small Revolutionary Army is createed numbering 3,450 men is created, and it begins to gather recruits from around New Spain. A man named only as "La Cantara", takes lead of the movement, and with his charisma and military expertice, he begins to turn the small Revlutionary Army into a well trained and equipped fighting force.

​Spanish Response: This is no lie. we are telling the truth. Please, let us try to help you. Just do not rebel.

1791
'''Louis XIV and his family attempt to escape, only to be captured and executed by the revolutionaries. The monarchy is abolished and a republic is declared.'''

The situation in New Spain becomes a great concern for Spain, who try everything they can to compromise with the people there.

Priestly Riots occur in Britain.

A slave rebellion occurs in Haiti.

​Spain: Spain continues to develop their industry and economy and to help modernize their empire. The military and navy undergo drastic changes, which use the British as their model. They refuse independence, but allow the people to have access to government positions.

France: French Revolutionaries proudly enter Paris, after the bloody revolution, and proudly put the leader of the Revolutionary Arm as the 1st President, similiar to how George Washington. As promised, Corisca becomes an autnomous province of France, and due to the lack of military, relunctantly gives Haiti is indepenence. President Larbet orders the reconstruction of the French Army and Navy, and Napoleon is put incharge of the 1st Army that will be stationed in Marsille.

Why would Corsica rebel against French rule?

'''During the French Revolution, there were Corisca nationalists. So to ge there help in this ATL, the leader of the Revolutionaries agreed to let Corisca be an autonomous region.'''

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The army undergoes it's third wave of modernisation, with the latest tactics and drills being imported from Britain and Spain. The army begins a recruiting drive, offering a good wage and glory to those who enlist. The Duke, noticing that his seaside nation is lacking in a navy, commissions the creation of a navy. '''Requests are sent to allies Britain and Spain for naval advisors and engineers to help kick-start our new navy. '''The turnpike system is already helping roads to improve, but there is still a long way to go before the roads can be considered first-rate.

United States: A series of problems occur in the United States: the federalists are outraged with France's revolution, the Democratic-Republicans are overjoyed, and the south is also annoyed that slaves were able to win in Haiti. George Washington does his best to maintain the nation. The president asks that the relatives of the French Royal Family be allowed to leave the nation safely, in return for recognition from the United States. The army and navy are slightly expanded because of the volitile situation in Europe. Trade rights are requested with Spain, and the government also asks to buy Florida.

French Diplomacy: The Royal Family is dead, but any members of the Royal Family that are still alive will be allowed to go to the United States.

U.S. Diplomacy: We would like to make a count of them anyway. (King Louis XVI - dead, Queen Marie Antionette - Alive? [was not killed until 9 months after her husband OTL], children - alive, relatives - alive) Can the French Authorities confirm this for us please?

French Diplomacy: French Authorities have confirmed that many of the relvaties are alive, children are alived, and the King and Queen were executed.

U.S. Diplomacy: If you send the children to us and allow the relatives to leave in peace in either France or Europe, then we will recognize the French Republic.

French Diplomacy: France agrees.

Ottoman Empire: Continues to expand southwards in Arabia and west in Africa. Builds up defenses in Africa. (Nappy better not invade it! He didn't the last two times around, so not now!) Sends more support to the Muslim Mughals.

Prussia Asks Brandenburg for white peace. (I wasn't here at the declaration of war)

Russia: The Tsar sees that he has a vast amount of land to the East that is uninhabitated, and he decides to send people there to settle it by giving away land for free. A large migration movement begins, and thousands of people move Eastward for a better life. Many Serfs escape from their farms to move East to farm their own land. Meanwhile, Workshops are built in the nation.

Swiss Confederation: Many new troops are trained, and weapons made. Defensive forts are built along the Confederation's Borders incase we are invaded and not ready. A trade agreement is sent to Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Prussia, Brandenburg, and Russia.

Prussia: Accepts Trade agreement

Brandenburg: agrees to peace with prussia, and accepts the swiss trade agreement. the working class people who were conscripted are released, and most of the mercanaries are let go other than a few who are kept to continue training the actual army. now that the war is over, the Mark grudgly sets up a parliment to deal with civil affairs, though the the Mark (fredrick) is the head of the parliment as well as overall ruler.

Quing Dynasty: The emperor, advise to force settlers to the north, begins to, but stopped by other advisors pointing out it would lead to conflict with Russia, and and they had enough space for their vast population. A large expeditionary merchant fleet leaves to the west to the Americas.

1792
Francis II becomes Holy Roman Emperor.

George Washington is reelected president.

Spain and Mexican patriots attempt to find a solution to their dispute.

For god's sake, AP, don't follow OTL events to the word!

​Spain: Spain decides to establish a dominion status over their American colonies to hopefully end their crisis. They manage to colonize more land in the North American and Patagonian frontiers after their land distribution. They remain neutral in the European conflict.

France: France mobilizes its military and sends east to the Prussian-French border. Napoleon is put incharge of the 1st Army, and begins to draw out plans to crush the Prussians and Austrians, during the imminent invasion. France asks that Britain and Russia to stay neutral, as we, the French, are not the agressors, and asks for limited assistance from Spain and the United States.

Spanish Diplomacy: Although reluctant, it agrees.

British Diplomacy: in order to maintain a balance of power, we'll become involved on France's side if anything goes wrong. But for now we're neutral.

American Diplomacy: America is not willing to get involved in a war right now, but we will not cease our trade with France.

Ottoman Diplomacy: Offers an alliance against Austria.

Duchy of mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Duke declares his country neutral in the Franco-Prussian & Austrian War. A sloop-of-war rolls off the docks, becoming the first ship of the Duchy's navy. Roads are even better, but still need imporvement.

Brandenburg: Has no love of prussia or austria and so offers the french first army passage through branden burg, as long as they are not a drain on brandenburg resources and do not linger. the brandenburg army is stocked with new firearms, and both the king and parliment decide that fortifying berlin permanatly is a very good idea, so work begins on that. some scientists fleeing from the revolution in frace present to the mark the idea for a hot air balloon which he demands is built immediatly

French Diplomacy: France thanks Brandenburg, and promises not to linger or drain its rescources.

Swiss Confederation: The Confederation declares that it will be neutral in the Franco-Prussian and Austrian war. However, they will allow troops from both sides to come and go through Switzerland as they please, if only they don't linger or drain up resources. If any fights between both sides are started in Switzerland, the Swiss will have to intervene as it is their country, and if any Swiss civilian or otherwise is killed, Switzerland will declare war on the country that killed the civilian. More troops are being prepared and more forts and walls are being built around the country. A trade agreement is sent out to France, and cavalry units are being trained.

French Diplomacy: France agrees to the trade agreement.

'''If you were truly neutral, that wouldn't happen. Battles are sure to break out in your territory if you let both armies go through.'''

United States: The two remaining members of the French Royal Family arrive in Philadelphia where they will now reside. The country celebrates the admission of Kentucky as a state of the Union.

​1793
Poland once again is partioned by Prussia and Russia.

Unsen Volcano Eruption and Earthquake occurs in Japan.

With some foreign support, France manages to defeat Prussia and Austria on their borders.

Brandenburg's role in the war in Europe greatly weakens the position of Prussia as a great power.

​Spain: It continues colonization along the Patagonian and North American frontiers. They continue to send limited aid to France. They begin colonizing Mindanao and encourage the migration of Spanish American and Spanish settlers to the Philippines. The economy continues to improve while the military and navy are being more modern.

American Diplomacy: President Washington would like to negotiate the sale of Florida with Spain if Spain is willing.

Spanish Diplomacy: Spain says no.

Prussia declares war on Brandenburg and invades slowly gaining land with heavy losses due to the Army falling into disrepair after Frederick the Great's death. Prussia asks all German states to declare war on the tratorious Brandenburg for siding with a nation with different cultural background. '''The US and Prussia had a trade agreement :/. Plus, I wasn't herefor the last turn.'''

'''Guys, one problem here. Brandenburg belonged to Prussia since the early 1700s. It didn't exist as a nation at this point. '''

-- It seceded in the first turn.

I doubt that would be considered plausible at all.

The point of an alternate history is that its alternate and the eastern part which has broken off to become brandenburg was only in the union because it was invaded.

'''While I realise the alternate history part of it, Brandenburg actually took over Prussia, not the other way around. In fact Brandenburg was the heart of the Kingdom of Prussia, and it is very unlikely for them to leave and lose all that they have accomplished. '''

Siam: Siam sends out trade missions to Japan and China. It also has some border issues with Burma.

United States: The United States declares support for Prussia in the war againts Brandenburg, although it does not mention who it favors with regards to France. Marie Joseph Paul Yves Roche Gilbert du Motier (better know as the Marquis de La Fayette) and Friedrich Wilhelm August Heinrich Ferdinand von Steuben (better known as Baron von Steuben) are made honorary citizens of the United States.

France: France demands that Prussia hands over the left bank of the Rhine, and pay repartitions to France for such an aggressive act. Napoleon, along with the Senate and President, launches reforms in the military, and training of the new army begins. The French Navy begins to construct an man-of-war and an sloop.

Brandenburg: as prussia has now attacked brandenburg after making peace with it less than a year ago, brandenburg asks to ally with france to drive out the prussians, who, according to previous events could not have advaced into brandenburg as the french 1st army is in the way. in berlin, a prototype hot air balloon is launched, and a forein trade system is offred to spain so that both countries can gain resources not avalible to them currently, fruit and ebony from spain to brandenburg and pine wood and iron ore from brandenburg to spain.

French Diplomacy: France is still at war with Prussia (I'll do an algorithm).

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: Sides with France and Brandnenburg in the oncoming war. Roads are even better than usual, thanks to the Turnpikes. A new sloop begins construction.

Swiss Confederation: More troops are trained and a trade agreement is sent to France.

French Diplomacy: France agrees.

1794
The cotton gin is invented by American Eli Whitney.

Angry Pennsylvanian farmers rebel in the Whiskey Rebellion.

'''Prussia and Austria suffer many losses in the war. '''

​Spain: It continues colonization in the Philippines and the Americas. Their economic reforms manage to help the country return to its status as a great power once again. They ask for all the nations in the European conflict to at least establish peace.

France: Napoleon leads the French Army across the Rhine, and manages to sieze the eastern bank of the Rhine. Aid is sent to Brandenburg, and the 1st French Army under Napoleon. Napoleon crushes an counterattack from an weak Prussian army, and the eastern bank of the Rhine is annexed into the First French Republic, and the 2nd Army reinforces the 1st Army and begins to construct defenses in the newly aquirred territory. France asks Prussia and Austria to report to the talk page for an treaty.

Siam: Siam invades (part of) Burma because of border issues. The nation asks for China and/or Japan to help their cause in the invasion.

Brandenburg: The fortifications around berlin are finished, despite the fact that the prussians have been driven off by the french. the offer for a trade agreement with spain is repeated. a military stratagist in the army suggests using the newly created hot air balloons in the militatry as scouts and to drop things on enemys below. So that armys can travel easily through it, brandenburg begins to upgade its road system, basing it on the old roman one.

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Duke begins patronizing various attempts at industrialization. Two ironworks are opened, and some water mills are also constructed. The navy now numbers one frigate and two sloops, and construction begins on a corvette, due for completion next year. With the death of Duke Adolphus Frederick IV of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, M-Schwerinese soldiers march into the small neighbouring country.

1795
The Whiskey Rebellion spreads across the whole state.

Japan declines to intervene in the Siamese-Burmese conflict, yet China agrees to help Siam.

'''Austria falls to disarray, leaving Prussia left. It loses the Rhine bank to France.'''

​Spain: It continues colonizing most of the Philippines and the Americas. Rumors of gold in the southwest and California reach the capital, though expeditions have been sent to prove this. They call for peace in Europe.

France: France final annexation of the Rhine occurs, and the river now belongs to France. The 3rd Army enters the brown country and annxes the Piedmont, due to the presence of an Austrian garrison in the small country over. Meanwhile, France offers an ceasefire to Prussia, and negotiations will take place on the talk page.

United States: Generals Washington and Greene gather an army of about 5,000 men and ride out to Pennsylvania. Moving across the state, their presence alone is enough to make almost all rebels lay down arms, and any who refuse are arrested. The army moves to Pittsburg, and the rebellion ends shortly after. The navy is being increased to two destroyers and three frigates.

Quing Dynasty: It increases it's presence in the Tibetan border to counter raids from bandits, and prepares a major military operation. The large merchant fleet recives technological information as it goes around the world.

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The neighbouring Duchy of Mecklenburg-Strelitz is formally annexed into M-Schweri, and troops are raised from the new province. Duke Frederick Francis asks France for an alliance. Thanks to the new (if small) navy, the Duchy's Baltic chalk and timber trade flourishes, with trading houses opening up in London, Stockholme and Copenhagen.

French Diplomacy: France agrees.

1796
The Jiaqing Emperor becomes Chinese emperor after Qianlong abdicates.

American ships are raided by North African pirates.

Catherine of Russia dies, leaving Paul I Russian emperor.

The Whiskey Rebellion is crushed.

'Guys, we have to keep going until the Napoleonic Wars begin, otherwise this game will crash and burn again''. '''

United States: The United States celebrates Tennesee as the 16th state in the Union. More amounts of Mechanization occur in the cities.

Aren't you aware of the North African pirates?

Aztlan: After years of building up strength and weaponry and armies, the people of New Sapin revolt and rise up against the Spanish Empire and proclaim the United Federation of Aztlan, or UFA, which begins to force out the Spanish,m adn the USA is begged to help Aztlan gain its independance form the Imperialist Liars in Spain. The Aztaln Army, since it has had years to prepare itself and gain troops, numbers 35,000 men in the main Army with 25,000 in Guerilla Units, which harrass and capture Spanish troops and capture supplies for the Republic. The UFA asks the nations of the world for help in forcing out Spain. Meanwhile, more gold is discovered in OTL Chihuahua, and a gold rush begins, while more gold and silver is discovered in California, encouraging immigartion to Aztlan.

'''Aztlan? Isn't that a bit to native? By the time- I am almost sure, criollos and other Spanish-influenced kinds had been the biggest group in population, yes there was still a native presence, but it was minor compared to criollos......just so you know, there was already a sorts-of "Mexican" identity, but if you want to keep Aztlan, no objections. Ianian58 22:06, May 15, 2012 (UTC)'''

I am not too sure if such a thing would in fact be plausible, and I would like the mods to look at it closely. If they decide that it is in fact plausible, then by all means continue.

'''Naw. Too many mesitzos for that name. I say mexico is better.'''

'''I meant the whole event, not just the name. Monster Pumpkin 22:18, May 15, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''No mod, but my *ahem* professional knowledge should have influence. It is plausible, but at the same time not (lolwut). You see, yes, it is possible for a rebellion at similair size, but I'd put the number around 17 thousands or so soldiers in total, they'd have a very big lack of equipment, though, patriotic men of freedom in America can supply that. Spain at the time was a major power, unlike 19th century, due to no invasion by Napoleon or them losing their colonies, Spain is a power that can match those of Britain and France (but stil lose) meaning, they wouldn't be beated so easily, I can see rebels winning in Mexico at first, but Spanish forces in the north, Central America, and Cuba, quickly making the situation unwinnable. Ianian58 22:22, May 15, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''Spain helped America gain independence, so it is unlikely that they would aid them. especially since Spain tried to accomodate to the colonist's demands. '''

'''Objection! There had been conflict between Americans heading west and the Spanish! The American people were very young at the time, and saw themselves as the people and supporters of freedoms, and would whole-heartedly support the rebels, may the government discourage it or not. '''

'''Trust me, the American would not intervene against the Spanish. He was against helping Republican France, which was not the government that helped the Americans yet appealed to American ideals. America would not help. '''

'I disagree again, there is a diffrent between the problems of Spain, in America, and the problems of France in Europe.'' The U.S may not officially intervene, but I can see a few thousand American Volunteers fighting for the rebels, along with weapons and such, even with the government condeming it. '''

'''They may not, for as of right now, we don't know why they are rebelling in the first place. There are no major population centers of the United States located close enough to New Spain to fight there, and I doubt that that many would make the journy there. '''

'''Agreed in the first sentence, but, many Americans, especially the young ones would go there, they were incredibly willed and patriotic for ideas of freedoms and alone were thrilled by the idea of helping a young nation. At the very least, the rebels would recieve weapons and a few volunteers. '''

'''Not good weapons, and even if people went to fight it would not turn the tide against Spain. '''

'''They would recieve weapons and some volunteers as I make my final statement, and I do agree it would not change the tide of the war- but it would drag it on. '''

'''First of all, I DID support Republican france against Prussia and Austria. Second of all, I tried everything to appease Mexico to prevent independence. And third of all, I am going to give American Flordia if they help me.'''

Add in Lousiana, and you might just have a deal, my friend.

Aztaln  offers France and the USA the following borders should it help Aztaln gain independance:



Quing Dynasty: It masses it's army bordering South-East Asia, an army equalling around 1.2 million men.

'''Well guys, we all know the process. (If you've played the last two games, that is.) The Ottoman Empire/me conquers Arabia, goes after Persia. WINS! Russia/Taco moves out east, yadda yadda yadda, the Mughals, yes it's Mughals and not Moghuls, defeat Britain in India, etc. China/Ian ransacks Tibet, etcetera, etcetera, the Empress herself kills Zhuge Liang, so on so forth. HOORAY FOR TRADITION! Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 22:27, May 15, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''South-East Asia = Tibet? PLOT TWIST! Ianian58 22:01, May 15, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''How did you predict my move? (Starcasm)TacoCopper'''

Now announcing to everyone: I plan to have an expansionist America. You have been warned! >:D Monster Pumpkin 22:19, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

'''Spain would have to lose all their colonies....early Simon Bolivar? Anyways, COME AT ME BRO! '''

'''Hey man, I'm taking it slow and steady. No need to fear...yet.'''

Well guys, I was just prediciting the future of the game.

'''It's cool man. '''

The Ottoman Empire: Takes more of Western Persia. Offers help and whatnot to the Mughals if they help invade from the East. Expands in Africa.

Spain: It declares war on Aztlan and begins mobilizing against the independence effort. They have tried everything to prevent a rebellion and now this! They ask the United States for healp and promises Florida if they do. They continue colonizing Patagonia and Mindanao. They establish a new colony at an unclaimed region at eastern Borneo.I

meant the wh

Russia: Thousands of Settlers continue to move East, and many Serfs flee to move East to get free land from the Government. Hundreds of Small Settlements start up on the Frontier. Meany people get jobs in the lumber Industry out East. Meanwhile, Workshops start to open up more in back West.

France: With no word for an ceasefire from Prussia, the 3rd and 2nd Army under Napoleon enter deep into Prussian territory. Meanwhile, France begins to build up its infastructure, and factoreis along the Rhine are constructed to produce equipment for the French army, and is maintained by child and women labor. Piedmont formally becomes part of France, and the French Republic supports Spain, since its assited France at the beginning.

Aztlan Diplomacy: Aztaln begs France for help, inreturn France will gain much of Spanis Empire in the Americas as well as northern OTL California.

Spanish Diplomacy: It begs France not to listen to them, promising to help get back Haiti if they side with us.

Brandenburg: The roads continue to improve and with the prussians retreating brandenburg claims prussian land to the east of it, inching slowly foward. Asks that in exchange for its continued support, france allow brandenburg some of prussia's lands after they've conquered it. it repeats its offer to spain for a trade agreement. miners begin mining iron in the mountains to the south using new industrial techniques

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Scwerin: The Duke is glad with how the nation is going. Roads are good, a new corvette is added to the burgeoning navy, and trade is better than it has ever been (it was never particularly good). But he feels it is missing something...Some traders bring a proposal to the Duke: expand M-S trade by starting a (very small) colony in West Africa. The Duke, after much consideration, accepts, and a small fleet carrying soldiers, traders and settlers sets sail for otl Gabon. They arrive, and build a fort. (Before the acusations of implausability start rolling in; hear this: Most nations had forts in Africa at this time. Denmark, Sweden and other not major powers had outposts there. And I did it in the last game. So there)

Siam: Siam establishes control over eastern Burma.

Moghul Empire: the civil ends with the rebels destroying half the country and falling into interbal fighting. the Muslims mop up the ramnents of the rebel forces at great expences and start rebuilding. (sorry completely forgot i was in the map game) the new emperor that more laxed laws will be placed so that hindus are treated as equals to themor atleast treated fairly.the armyt is expanded to replenish its numbers and the construction of 2 local factories are made in Dehli to begin produicing firearms and cannons.the army is reformed and trained to fight along more modern lines.

1797
North African pirates make raids across the European Mediterranean and the American ships.

Prussia is forced to surrender, recognizing Brandenburg's independence and the French inheritence of Prussian lands in other German areas.

'''The Aztlan War of Independence has begun. Spain is desperatly trying to find enough help from its allies as it can.'''

Frenchmen cheer across France, calling for Napoleon to become the country's leader.

Spain: Spain asks France and America for help. It will help France regain Haiti if they help and agree to give America Louisiania and Florida. They rally troops all across the country and any loyalists in the Americas to fight against the Aztlan rebels.

Aztlan Diplomacy: Aztaln offers Spain a deal: Have Spain become a Comonwealth, with Spains Monarchy as its head and the colonies being in close trade and military allaince with Spain, although they can maintain there internal afairs. Aztaln offers France and America the following borders shoyuld Spain decline the deal:

France: Napoelon agrees to become France's ruler, and establisht the First French Empire. Napoleon agrees to help Spain, and veterans of the First European War is sent to help Spain fight the Aztlans. Meanwhile, Napoleon passes the First Imperial Act, improving the infastructure and education system. Napoleon also gives some territory to Bradenburg as an thank you gift for their help, and the remainder of the territory, around the Rhine, and lower German states are annexed into the French Empire.

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: Turnpike trusts are established in recently annexed Mecklenburg-Strelitz. The African settlement, named Fredericksland, is officially claimed for the Duchy. A treaty is signed with the native inhabitants, which recognises the colony. With an ever expanding trade-based economy, the government's coffers are overflowing, and another corvette is comissioned for the navy. The Duke also sends a diplomat to Brandenburg.

Moghul Empire: the empire requests an alliance with the french to aid the modernize and recuperate lands seized by other european powers in the future in exchange french interests in the subcontinent will be accepted and benifits to french citizens will be granted.the production of firearms begins and soldiers are sent to start crushing whats left of the uprisings and along the border with the persian Empire in an attempt to aid its ottoman allies in return it will only want the eastern most part of persia and ottoman aid in submitting the rest of the indian subcontinent and block out english influence on the continent.

'''I'm warning you now, you're making a powerful enemy in Britain if you do that. Remember you're empire is weakening now.'''

​French Diplomacy: France agrees to everything.

Ottoman D: Agrees to everything.

Aztaln: Aztaln begins to force Spain out of Aztalnm and offers America Louisina, Florida, Cuba, and all of Spains Carribean possessions if it helps Aztaln free itself from the Spanish opressors. Aztaln guerilla forces begi to cause havoc on the Spanish in Aztlan, and Aztaln forces begin to show who the bravest and smartest leaders in Aztlan are, and one, an Apache Indian named Gernimo, who is very young, uses hit and run tactics that kill thousands of Spaniards and bring hundreds of prisoners back. Britain is begged for help and offerd OTL Venezuela, Colombia, and Ecuador if it declares war on Spain. The Dutch are also begged for help, and promised the Philipenes as well as all of Spains Pacific and Indian OCean possessions. Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Schwerin are also begged for help, promising them land in South America. The borders are offerd to the nations who help Aztaln. Other nations who pladge help will be added to this map. The Aztaln people also begin to rally behind the new General Geronimo, who they think stands for the Republic, and they will not be dissapointed.

''' Geronimo did not exist until the late 19th century or so, and I doubt that the Mexicans would support an Indian to lead them. Furthermore, the casualties listed here are quite exagerated. '''

Swiss Confederation: The Confederation is glad that the Franco-Prussian war is over. A sudden population increase results in many towns growing. The Confederation decides it needs more land to expand into. It declares war on Savoy and Milan to the south. The troops that had been stockpiling for years now, finally get some action, and invade both countries.

United States: John Adams is elected President, with Thomase Jefferson as vice-president. The idea of supporting the New Spain rebellion is considered by the president, although he first wants to know why they are rebelling.

Ottoman Empire: Ottoman Empire defeats the rest of Persia and prepares to move into Africa. Offers France an alliance.

Britain: The British East India company continue to undermine Mughal rule in India now that the empire is becoming incredibly weak and Britain is superior to them in every way. Britain supports Spain in crushing the Aztlan independence and mobilizes the army to invade Aztlan. '''The Navy blockades important Aztlan ports to starve the illegitimate country. Other allies are asked to join Britain's amphibious invasion planned for next turn. '''We ask that the US not meddle in this war or itt'l suffer the consequences. We condemn Switzerland's actions on innocent regions to the south and sever all ties as well as impose economic sanctions on them to halt their weak economy.

Don't worry, regard Swiss actions as null and void.

You crossed out the wrong thing lol.

'''Oh, you're right. My bad, XD'''

1798
Aztlan Forces feel intimidated at facing a combined Anglo-Franco-Spanish force in their war for independence

People in the US call to take action in New Spain

Netherlands undegoes a coup, creating the Batavian Republic.

Alien and Sedition Acts and enacted.

Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: Duke Frederick Francis declares his support for his Spanish and British allies and sends a naval expeditionary force (one corvette and some infantry, remember we're just a small country) to join them in the fight against the Aztlan revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the Fredericksland african colony engages in the ivory and game trades, but not the slave trade, following a Ducal Decree from Schwerin.

Ottoman Empire: Again, offers France an alliance. Expands into Africa and promises the Mughals (Mughals, not Moghuls) Eastern Persia. Also offers help against Aztlan.

United States: John Adams publicly declares support for France and her allies, although that upsets the French Royal Family. He offers to aid Spain in subduing Aztlan, which is generally thought to be rebelling for no reason, in exchange for Florida and/or Louisiania, preferably both. Adams creates the U.S. Department of Native Affairs to resolve any disputes that may occur. (Nothing personal Sims, you can still play if this turns out wrong)

Spanish Diplomacy: They can have Florida.

American Diplomacy: We will double our efforts and pay you a substantial amount of money if you throw in Louisiana too.

Spanish Diplomacy: It agrees.

Spain: It thanks America for its help and lets them have Florida. They refuse Aztlan's offer, saying that a Dominion system is better. They thanks the Ottomans and Mecklenburg-Schwerin for their help.

Aztaln Diplomacy: Aztaln will agree to become a Dominion if Aztaln can still control its domestic policies while having a unnited foriegn policy with Spain.

Spanish DIplomacy: That's what dominions are.

Britain: Due to military might and our combined power, Aztlan Mexico was quickly overrun by European forces, with aztlan resistance melting and being driven to the south steadily. The Europeans demad the surrender of Aztlan and become a dominion. The naval blockade proves effective as many Aztlan citizens feel the sting of the blockade.

Austria: Austria requests trade agreements from Russia, France, and all Germanic nations. Men are recruited and stockpiled, along with the production of weapons, and stockpile of weapons.

DoM-S Diplomacy: The Duke accepts the trade agreement, but feels it is unnecessary, seeing as we are bith still technically in the Holy Roman Empire.

France: France continues to improve infastructure in the Piedmont region. The left bank of the Rhine is fortified to keep any Prussians from an invasion. France agrees to the Ottoman Empire's alliance, and two platoons of infantry from the Franco-Prussian War is sent to help Spain, and the other countries against Aztlan. France agrees to Austria's trade agreement, and recongization of the Batavian Republic occurs.

Brandenburg brandenburg officialy recognises Aztlan as a country, and the dukemakes a speech saying that any country that wishes for freedom should have it. but as it has no navy and joining on the Aztlan side would bean fighting its allies, it takes no military action. the french are thanked for their generous gift of land. a artillary foundry is started to produce artillary pieces both to sell and for the military, and the parliment are granted more civic powers and are generally left to run the county.

Aztaln Diplomacy: Aztaln thanks Brandenburg and begs for "Vollunteers" and supplies.

Brandenburg diplomacy: Agrees to send supplies, including weapns, but not troops

Spanish Response: HOW THE F COULD YOU?

Brandenburg Diplomacy: There are such things as private traders, not everything is owned by governments. I can't send as much on these as I could on a goverment owned navy, but its still possible

Moghul Empire: in an attempt to apease the organize the various elements in the subcontinent at the moment the emperor decides to halt its anti british stance at the moment while strengthen its ties with the french and ottomans. the army continues its modernization with the new help from the french and turks and 5 armies are sent to invade the persian eatern portion of the empire and from there hold onto a defencesive stance. infrustructure is built with french aid and the nations first train line is under constructionfrom Dehli to Bombay. the final hindu insurrections are put down and more money to security and education begins.

MUGHAL! Not Moghul.

Aztaln: Aztaln condemns America as hypocrytical for saying it hates Imperialism when it relay is helping people who ate Freedom in retunr for land, stating that Georgwe Washington would tunr in his grave if he heard of this. Aztaln will agree to become a Dominion if Aztaln can still control its domestic policies while having a unnited foriegn policy with Spain. Aztaln troops begin a guerilla war against any and all Spanish and its Allies troops.

American Diplomacy: First of all, George Washington is not dead yet. Second, we believe in the honor of helping those who helped us. Third, we don't even know why you are revolting, especially when Spain tries to assess your concerns.

British Diplomacy: If Aztlan cedes Panama and a considerable piece of Central America, we'll pull our forces out of Mexico and convince our Allies to leave( We are occupying Mexico now and WE lead the attack not Spain so this is a legitimate offer).

'''Aztlan has no territory in South America, that is the Vice Royalty of Rio Deplata, Peru, and Granada. Aztlan is New Spain. '''

Change that to Panama + a piece of Central America.

'''Hate to rain on your parade again, but Panama belongs to the Vice-Royalty of New Granada, not New Spain/Aztlan. New Spain stops at the OTL Panama-Central America border. And how do you propose to force France, Spain, and the U.S. to leave? '''

'''LOOK. I WILL TRY TO END THE WAR SOMEHOW!'''

Don't forget Ottomans.

Siam: Siam builds up its navy and education system as the border tensions lessen a bit.

Quing Dynasty: The Quing Army undergoes drastic modernization, with information coming from the Merchant Fleet, the so called Great Year of Technology, puts the Dynasty nearly modernized in the army and navy. Angered by the situation in India, it offers Burma and the Mughals, a military trio alliance, and warns the British Empire to not intervene in India. In response, the 1 million man force in bordering South-East Asia moblizies, and threatens to "break through the small nations bordering India in the south-east and head to India!" Then navy also moblizies, threatening to take away the few Pacific Posessions it has. It urges the Mughals to not back down

One million man army?'''YEAH RIGHT! also theres no way an ISOLATIONIST nation like you could possibly do all of that in one turn.'''

'''OBJECTION! Ianian58 18:00, May 20, 2012 (UTC) It is infact possible! In the time of the Quing Dynasty, the dynasty was not isolationist in Asia, espcially at these years were there was much growth, and since the beginning of the game, the Quing Dynasty has made progression with information, and it is infact possible to modernize strength. I agre, I overdid the modernization, but, the one million man army is completely possible with China's massive population of 470 million+, historically, the dynasty's army was always small due to lack of internal or external fighting. Ianian58 18:00, May 20, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''The population in 1790 was 275 million. Yet the army is still possible yet it wouldnt be as strong as any European one but in numbers yes you have them beat.'''

'''*300 million, and with a diffrence of ten years, a few million mores. Ianian58 19:16, May 20, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''Sorry Ian. You wanna modernize, it takes a few turns for that.'''

I understand that part, I did overexagerate it, my bad, 

​1800
Mod Events:
 * 1) Aztlan Independence War continues.
 * 2) Native Americans in the United States clash with American settlers in the frontier.
 * 3) The Qing Empire begins a period of openess to the outside world.
 * 4) Relations between Britain and France and the Ottomans worsen when the Mughals establish closer ties with the French and Ottomans.


 * ​Spain: Spain agrees to a compromise to the Aztlans: it will agree to a commonwealth system just as it has asked before. In exchange, the rebellion will end, yet everyone is granted amnesty.
 * Aztaln Diplomacy: Aztaln accepts, and Spain is thanked.


 * Mughal Empire: the modernization of the indian subcontinent continues and the first part of the rail way is made. western ideals like centralized power, beaurocracy, and industrialization begin to take root in the capital and other major cities a plan to unify the different princes and independent warlords in the empire begins.a policy of plurism towards both hindu and muslim faiths is began.

'''ATTENTION PEOPLE! I've decided to resign as Britain so i can become an UNBIASED "watcher" of sorts. Britain may be taken by any MOD!'''


 * CALLED IT! [[Image:IMPERIAL NY-SPQR 1.png|25px]][[Image:Regen Flag.png|30px|border]] Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 19:09, May 20, 2012 (UTC)Russia: Thousands of Settlers continue to move Eastward, and more Workshops are set up. Meanwhile, the Government hopes that the Situation in America will cool down soon.


 * Portugal: Portugal improves infrastructure and economy they also build a military barrack in Praria, Cape Verde. Portugal settlers head to Sao tome and Principe.
 * Austria:  Austria declares that they are getting into the Aztlanian War of Independance. They, in order to gain some land over seas, and to stablilize and improve friendly relations with the rest of Europe, send three regiments, the 1st,2nd, and 3rd Austrian Volunteers, the 1st Austrian Cavalry Volunteers, and the 2nd Artillery Regiment to Aztlan, approximately 45,000 Men, 15,000 Cavalry Units, and 15,000 Cannons, mostly to the southern region, to take it. Ships are sent to blockade ports, and to bombard the land. The ships are apart of 4th Fleet consisting of 150 Ships . An Alliance is sent out to Prussia , France and Russia. A Trade Agreement is sent to Russia, the Ottomans, and Britain.


 * Russian Diplomacy: We accept both.
 * French Diplomacy: France cannot accept the alliance (due to plauisble reasons, as the French never had good relations with Austria during that time period).
 * Listen, I'm sorry, but 150 ships? In world war one, Austria-Hungary had only 98 ships, so having a single fleet with fifty more almost one hundred years earlier is, I'm sorry, just impossible. Even today, the British navy has only 98 ships!!! And 15000 cannons? Seriously? You don't have enough men in the taskforce to handle them! Callumthered
 * Aztaln has agreed to become a Spanish Commonwealth, therefor you are decalring war on Spain and Aztlan.
 * This is  NOT  HAPPENING! France=Austrian enemy. Ottoman Empire=Greatest Austrian enemy of all time in 1800s. Russia? Not so much. Britain? Not exactly your pal, but not exactly a friend either.
 * France: France continues to support the European powers and the United States against Aztlan. Meanwhile, the military is expanded, and construction on the first French ship begins, and construction on bridges across the Rhine begin. Piedmont-Sardina is divided into states, and the last remnants of the old nation is destroyed.
 * fyi, you already have heaps of ships by this time. You are the world's second most powerful sea power. Callumthered
 * I know, but I mean the first one built by the French Empire. Enclavehunter 03:43, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * United States: The United States occupies Louisiana and Florida as Spain agreed, and 29 million dollars are given to Spain for them. The Department of Native Affairs continues its work, and successfully creates an agreement that leads to the two states of Cherokee and Tennesee joining the union.


 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The military leaders request to purchase some cannons from the foundry in Brandenburg. Shipbuilders in Rostock start construction on another frigate. With the situation in North Ameriica calming down, the Duchy's force is preparing to return home. With a strong economy and full government coffers, the duke asks Sweden if it is interested in selling Swedish Pomerania to us.


 * Aztaln: Aztaln accepts the Commonwealth offer of Spain and ceases hostilities with the mother country. Aztaln begins to try and heal relations with Spain. Spain is asked to call off its Allies.


 * brazil asks for independence they will stay loyal to portugal and become a alliance member they also will build more industry and stores and a baby boom accurs they raise the militia from 1000 to 3000 to keep brazil safe from natives and other colonies they also build fort brazil on the coast toward portugal and spain and they claim and expand into any unclaimed land they can


 * Quing: The army undergoes modernization process with valued infornmation and manufacturing workshops springing around the costal areas to help this effort. The Emperor faces a rash decision to go with plans in South-East Asia, or attempt to help the Mughals, or expand through another area.

1801
'''​P.S. We have recent coding problems. i want to know what started this!'''
 * 1) The Aztlan Rebellion officially ends.
 * 2) With Louisiana and Florida now handed over to United States, it ushes a new era for the United States.
 * 3) The Act of Union establishes the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland.

I fixed it for the last turn.
 * Spain: It begins to return to normalcy after the Aztlan War. They are forced to accept the American control of Louisiana and Florida although the worth was only small. They ask for a political union with Portugal to reform the Iberian union.
 * United States: The United States celebrates the gaining of land that more than doubles the size of the nation. As a result, President John Adams becomes very popular. Settlers spread out into the new territories, and the Department of Native Affairs is expanded to watch them.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The troops who took part in the Aztlan War arrive home to a rousing reception. Duke Frederick Francis himself presents them with the country's first ever campaign medal-the Aztlan Medal. Sweden is again asked if it wants to sell Swedish Pomerania. If it does not, the Duke is considering purchasing the Virgin Isles from Denmark. The shipbuilders lay down the keel of the latest ship for the navy, a two nd a half decked frigate. Roads in annexed Mecklenburg-Strelitz are up to the same good standard as in the main Duchy. The Duke offers his 22 year old daughter in marriage to any monarch who wants her, particularly Portugal or Britain, or Spain.
 * Since Sweden has no player, we'll use an RNG: (1-4 Yes, 5-10, No) Result: 3- Mecklenburg-Schwerin has purchased Swedish Pomerania from Sweden for a considerable price.
 * Austria: Austria builds up more forces, and stand idle for a while.
 * Siam: Siam builds up its infrastructure, particularly in the territories acquired from Burma.
 * Moghal Empire:the recently modernized and armed mughal army is put to the test as the empire declares war on the maratha empire in southern india (can someone due the algorithem here?) in an attempt to unify the indian sub continent 50,000 soldiers invade the southern kingdom. the first national railroad is completed and plans are laid out to expand the rail lines. a request to france is made to help it increase its industrialization efforts.


 * There's no way the Mughal Empire can industrialize at this time, you can't possibly fund it. Also, only European nations can industrialize atm.
 * France: Napoleon prepares for an offensive onto the southern Italian countries. Meanwhile, the French forces from North America return to their expedition with the expierence of gurella warfare. France continues to improve its navy and Grand Armee.
 * Russia: Thousands of people continue to move Eastward, and more Workshops are set up in the nation.
 * brazil starts increasing it economy making it one of the most wealthy southern american country/viceroyalty also independence shreiks from brazil as milita is called out making the army 10000 militia and brazil declares independence they ask america for aid reminding them of there freedom and what they want freedom they also ask spain to aid them and they ask the nations not spain the other 2 to buy there colonieas that are right next to me on the coast
 * Aztaln: Aztaln celebrates its independance from direct Spanish rule and begins to buildup the military and infrastrucutre. Trade with the United States ends with an unofficial embargo against the United States while expansion into lands of Aztlan begins in earnest while a colony is settled near OTL Seattle to cement Aztalns claim to the region. Aztlan asks Spain for money to build up the Aztaln Navy. Aztaln begins to sent settlers to Hawaii to colonize the islands for Aztlan.
 * Brandenburg: is happy the Aztaln conflict is over, and requests a trade agreement with Aztaln. the artillary refinary is going well, and the countries economy is booming. Wishing for more power and land, the king anounces the invasion of bovaria.

1802​

 * 1) The Mughals' calls for helps of modernization come only from Britain in exchange for more power over the country.
 * 2) Portugal does not approve Brazil's independence and declares war on it to stop it.
 * 3) The Italian countries declare war on France. They are joined by Austria.
 * 4) The British Empire expands westward into Canada
 * 5) Tensions increase between Britain and Spain because the Empire is worried about Spanish encroachment on British colonies in South America
 * ​Spain: Spain declares war on Morrocco in order to gain influence over North Africa. Invasion forces from Spain land around the northern part of Morrocco. It supports Brazil by declaring war on Portugal. It remains neutral in what is going on in Italy.
 * Aztlan Diplomacy: Aztaln asks for full independace from Spain, if allowed, Aztlan will help Brazil gain indepednace and declare war on Portugal.
 * France: The French Army under the command of Napoleon make an swift defeat of the Italian state army, and begins their advance into the new states. Meanwhile, the Second Imperial Act is passed, improving the French army and navy, as well as the infastructure and education system.
 * Aztaln: Aztaln continues to expand into OTL Oretgon Territroy adn OTL Idaho wyhiel the Seattle Colony contineus to grow and begins to near the main Aztaln nation. Infrastructure continues to be built while the colonization of Hawaii continues at a rapid pace. A colony is establsihed on Vancaouver Island and settlers begin to go there as well . Aztaln continues to build up its military. Spain is aksed if it can help fund Aztalns navy.<
 * This is NOT happening Sims. 1 YOU JUST FOUGHT AN EXPENSIVE WAR 2 You were a colony, do you really think your people would approve of imperialism? 3 Even if you wanted to, you dont have the economic capabilities to do so.
 * Sims, slow it down, You should be concentrating on industrializing what land you have, not expanding. This is what killed the original game, remember? 
 * The Moghal reluctently offer the british a deal granting them extensive economic influence in the empire but only if they help modernize the state and the accept indian sovernity.more soldiers are sent into the marathan empire and cannons are introduced into the war. more rail lines from delhi are started up.
 * We refuse
 * ​Duchy of Meklenburg-Schwerin: The Duke stages a triumphant entry into the newly purchased Province of Swedish Pomerania, renamed the County of Pomerania. The economy takes a bit of a bad turn after the purchase, but economists hope that the extra trade produced from the bigger coastine will eventually offset the cost. Duke Frederick Francis again offers his daughter Louise Charlotte's hand in marriage to any royal who is in search of a wife.
 * Mughal Diplomacy: the emperor requests the hand of the dukes daughter for his son as a way of closing the distance between the western nations and the indian people he is willing to give a handsome payment for the deal.
 * I'm just saying now, European royalty only married other Europeans and usually the same religion. Your offer of a Hindu Indian Princess to a European Duke is really unlikely.
 * um its the other way around the emperor is requesting he hand of the dukes daughter for his son and the leaders of the mughal empire were muslim not hindu.
 * No matter. European royalty did not marry Muslims.
 * Brazil: starts a recruiting drive making the army 15000 and sends it to defend brazil 5000 south 5000 north 5000 middle also they stat training and suppliing the troops they ask spain and america for help they also start gaining support from the people in brazzil gaining atleast 1000 gureillas not in the army spread across the contry 400 north 400 idlle 200 south\
 * Aztlan Diplomacy: Aztaln A
 * Russia: Thousands of people continue to move Eastward, and more Workshops are opened up. Meanwhile, aid is sent to the Brazilian Rebels, on one condition: we have an alliance between the two of us.
 * United States: Settlers move west to gain cheaper land. The United States claims the Red River Baisin as settlers move there. Negotiations with the New York state government and Iroquois tribes begins as the two try to reach a compromise.
 * Britain: King George III continues sending prisoners to the penal colony in Australia. Meanwhile an expedition is planned for South Africa in order to compete with the Dutch. (in this timeline George IV died earlier than OTL) King George offers his son William, Prince of Wales, to the Duke of M-S, much to the dismay of his wife who is from Mecklenburg-Strelitz(but who cares anyway lol). Britain watches the situation in India closely
 * Portugal: Infrastructure improves greatly and so does their military. The City of Praria is booming and the city of Sao was founded. Portugal begins builing guns and ammo. New banks are being built in Praria. Portugal sends warships and troops to reconquer Brazil.
 * Austria: More men are recruited and we stand idle.

1803
RandomWriterGuy 05:47, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) ​The Maratha Empire defeats the Mughal invasion of their lands, the Mughals are on the defensive.
 * 2) Aztlan undergoes reconstruction from the damages of the war.
 * 3)  Iroqois refuse a compromise unless it states they can be their own U.S. State .
 * 4) Indians in the Red River Basin Valley rebel against the settlers.
 * 5) Northwestern Italy falls to the hands of the French.
 * 6) Northern Morrocco falls to the hands of the Spanish.
 * ​Spain: Thanks to military superiority, Northern Morocco is under then hands of the Spanish. They continue to move deeper and deeper south, capturing the state's capital of Casablanca along the way. They establish a colony at the mouth of the Congo River to increase trade in the region.
 * France: With northwestern Italy secured, Napoleon launches an second offensive into the central Italian states. Meanwhile, the Second Imperial Act works out well, and education of the next generation begins. The French Navy begins patrols across the Mediterraen, to keep French shipping safe from the Barbary Pirates.
 * Britain: Once again King George offers his son William, Prince of Wales, to the Duke of M-S's daughter. Britain declares war on the Mughal Empire in response to their encroachment of South Asia. *Algorithm coming* Britain launches an invasion of the Empire and establish a blockade of Mughal ports to starve the already weak (politically and economically) country. (Update): The invasion succeeds and the Royal Army advances west towards Dehli.
 * ​DoM-S Diplomacy: Duke Frederick-Francis accepts the marriage with much joy. He hopes the marriage will strengthen the already good relations with Britain.
 * Brandenburg: offers a trade agreement to Aztlan now that it has stopped fighting. and s upports the iroqoius in their quest for freedom. a plan for bigger hot air balloons is made so that they can carry supplies further afield. the invasion of saxony continues ( sorry in my last post i mean't to say saxony not bovaria) with the army slowly gaining ground.
 * They don't want to be free, they just want better land rights.
 * Siam: Siam builds up its military, partially because of the looming threat of war in all of South Asia.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Duke and his daughter sail to Britain for Princess Louise Charlotte's marriage to Prince William of Wales. In support of Britain, the Brigade that was sent to Aztlan is sent to aid the British in India. Trade has increased thanks to the Pomerania Purchase, but the government is still in debt. Following the lead of France, the Diet issues a decree making schooling from grades one to grade seven compulsary, Some assistance is sent to Brandenburg to help with the invasion of Saxony. The African colony is slightly expanding, with a new settlement being founded, named Williamsburg, in honour of the British prince.
 * Portugal: Portugal warships and troops captured the cities of Recife, Natal, Macelo and Joao Pessoa. They enforce strict curfews and no one can leave their house after 10:10 pm. If soldiers see anyone after 10:10, they shoot them on sight. Portuguese men also burned down 3 banasas farms and if one soldier is killed 50 civilians are shot. Portugal also asks Spain for peace and offers them the islands of Sao tome and Principe for it. Portugal sends more troops to Brazil
 * United States: The United States is currently unable to stop the violence in the Red River Basin, but urge settlers to respect the rights of natives. Negotiations with the Iroquios continue. The government condemns Brandenburg's agression towards other states, and the government mildly suggests that France negotiate with the Italians.
 * Quing Dynasty: Angered by British intervention in Asia, it is on the verge of declaring war, the army mobilizes near the South-East Asian Border, numbering 700,000 men for quick moblity, and much of the army has equipments like cannons and rifles. While 2/7 of the army uses more traditional weapons.
 * HA! you're hilarious with your outdated Bannermen no amount of "rifles and cannons" from the Qing can stop a European army, let alone the British.

​1804

 * 1) With the capture of Delhi, the Mughals are defeated not without heavy British losses of course
 * 2) Northern Italy is now French.
 * 3) South German establishes a coalition against Brandenburg.


 * Spain:  Spain makes many military successes in Morocco and Portugal. Lisbon is now sieged and the government begins to chase the fleeing Morocco government into the south. They help the Brazilians gain their independence and do condemn Britain's aggression in India.


 * RWG stop making such biased events, one more and i'll ban you. Stop controlling other countries' diplomacy.
 * Actually he made an impossible mod event last turn: "The Iroquois refuse to compromise with the US government." As a person with an exceedingly complete amount of information about New York, I have to declare that impossible.
 * Okay I wasn't trying to be that way! jeez!
 * I'm Portugal and i am confused was i conquered? Is Brazil independent?
 * Brandenburg: halts its invasion to have peace talks with the leaders of the other germanic countries about a united region. as there are currently peace talks going on, brandenburg redirects some of the troops to italy to help their french allies.


 * France: France captures mid-Italy, and begins the final advance onto the capital of the last Italian state in the region. Meanwhile, the Second Imperial Act intiates its second plan, when the two small colonies expand into Africa, starting the colonial expansion of France. The French military is expanded, and the French navy constructs an new fleet.
 * American Diplomacy: We suggest that yuo negotiate with the Italians.
 * Britain: The Royal Army defeats the Mughals after the capture of Delhi, not without heavy casualties of course. A draft is imposed in order to replenish troops in India. They mobilize to the Chinese border in case of war but ask the Chinese to stand down. The naval blockade is lifted on India and hopefully the status quo returns soon
 * United States: The United States continues its operations against Barbary Pirates in Tripolitania, and the war seems almost over (I know I never posted it, assume it went as OTL). New York agrees to sell land to the federal government so that the Iroquois can have their own state, governed with their own laws. Negotiations with the natives in Louisiana begin.
 * No, as a person with complete knowledge of New York and its neighbors, I'm sorry, but it wouldn't happen.
 * According to the mod event, the Iroquois refused to cooperate with the federal government unless they got their own state. If the federal government refused and attacked, other natives in the nation would revolt. And it says that they sold it, so...
 * Ok yeah, we all know RWG sucks at mod events and that one was completely impossible.
 * Not my fault, I'm just complying with the mod events. 
 * Ottomans: Ottomans offer China an alliance and a pact to save the Mughals and fight off the British. Meanwhile, aid is sent to them and the Empire asks France to help the Mughals.
 * Mughal diplomacy: we thank your support for us and request forces enter and aid the fight against the british we will in exchange offer our troops for your need when ever needed.
 * Mughal empire: with the loss of Dehli the emperor and his administrationm move further east and north, the army is reorganized to try and resist the british and a guerilla campaign begins, starting with attempts to cut off the british supply linesa cease fire is requested with the marathas along with an offer for a united front and promise of possible land exchanges to them for aid citing that if the mughal fall the maratha will be next for british conquest.
 * You've already been defeated and the British will most likely annex you.
 * Russia: With the hope of gaining lots of land for Settlers, Russia declears war on China and the Ottoman Empire. A large Russian Army is sent to invade the Ottomans in the Balkans, picking up people who want Free Land in the captured areas. Meanwhile, Workshops in the nation begin producing Canons and Guns for the War Efforts
 * That wouldn't really happen.
 * Nueva Granada: a request is made to Madrid after a popular refurendum is held to allow the vice royalty of Nueva Granada to have greater autonomy and become a dominion with the king of spain as head of state but with a locally choosen government. the population promises no attempts will be made to gain independence and that the region will remain loyal to the crown back in the motherland, a program to industrialize is also put forth if spains agrees to boost the local economy.
 * Slow down, Spain has barely industrialized. You are too agricultural to do that. Most Latin American nations couldnt industrialize until the late 1880s-1900s
 * Portugal: 'Portugal forces drafts and begins fighting the Spanish at the border. They ask the British for help. Portugal captures the cities of Amapa, Sao Luis and Belem. They also begin to attack Rio de Janeiro and Sao paulo.
 * i never said immidietly i said plans were put forward and the reason latin america couldnt industrialize was due to much local instability if an effort is put and whats required is collected by the 1820's i think a situation could be established to industrialize but if its decided i cant i wont.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The soldiers from India return to a triumphal parade. The Duke presents them all with the new India Medal. The Duke goes to the peace talks in Saxony, and raises the idea of a German Confederation, to replace the outdated Holy Roman Empire. The debt to Sweden is three quarters paid off. The settlement in Africa's population slowly increases.
 * Quing Dynasty: The Quing Dynasty enraged of the British trangression in India, declares war on the European Imperialist Nation. The army in South-East Asia, modernized enough to be a fighting force against the Europeans, begins negotiatiosn with South-East Asian nations to allow the army to move to India. ( Random.org= 1-5, allows army to cross, 6-10 doesn't allow. Random.org= 4)  The army should arrive in Norhtern India in months. They ask for the remains of the Mughal Empire to fight on.
 * That's a tad bit convenient now isn't it? I'm having a mod do that.
 * kthen. Ianian58 01:03, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

1805

 * 1) (RNG: 1-5 Yes,6-10 No: Result- 7)The Qing Dynasty is denied military passage by the areas between it and the Indian subcontinent out of fear of the wrath of both nations.Sorry Ian this was fair.
 * 2) Tensions between the US and the Indians cool down
 * 3) The Brazilian war of independence rages on
 * ​Spain: They begin to adopt industrial inventions from Britain into the economy. Becuase of this, rapid industrialization begins to take shape around northern Spain. They begin building irrigation systems in southern Spain to help the farmers. They begin and extensive road system across the Andes to make travel easier. They officially conquer all of Morocco and most of Portugal.
 *  You have done no algorithim for Portugal. Monster Pumpkin 


 * Aztlan Diploamcy: Aztaln asks Spain for full independace while Aztaln will help in all Spanish wars for the next 35 years and pay Spain 85 tons of gold and silver bullion.


 * Nueva Granada: more calls for greater autonomy come from the people of the viceroyalty and several riots break out all over the colony, a request is sent once again to spain for dominion status one of the local speakers Bolivar personally goes to spain to try and get the crown to grant granada dominion status. several local individuals begin the bettering of infrustructure and the construction of a few factories in bogota and caracas. plans to build a local militia are put into place.


 * Aztaln Diplomacy: Aztaln will secretly support Nueva Granada if it revolts aginst Spain.
 * n.g. diplomacy: the leaders of the autonomy movement refuse the generous aztlan offer on the grounds that autonomy is fine for them because although they wish for self rule they still hold loyalty for the mother land and any revolutionary attempts will be crushed due to no efficient power and the over whelming strength of spains allies.
 * France: France captures the remainder of Italian states, and annexs them. Meanwhile, Napoleon returns to France to pass the Third Imperial Act, ounce again improving schools, roads, ports, and the newly aquirred regions on the Italian Peninsula. France continues to expand its colonies in all directions, and Napoleon has an plan to bring much of Africa under French, control, but an majority of the population and other countries doubt that can happen.
 * Russia: More people head Eastward. Meanwhile, more workshops open up in the nation.
 * Aztaln: Aztlan continues to build up its infrastructure while expansion into OTL Oregon Country continues and a few parties of Aztalns are sent to Hawaii. Aztaln continues to industrialize and build up its navy and army asw ell as Marine Corps. Aztaln continues to apear loyal as a Commonwealth to Spain, but it secretly begins to fund the rebels in Nuevea Granada.
 *  Sims, we've gone over this before. You just fought a large war that you were losing. You don't have the money to expand like you are. 
 * United States: The United States tries to exert its authority over the western territories. In order to increase revinue, the new president Alexander Hamilton offers trade agreements with China and Japan. To accomplish trading over the Pacific, the U.S. government requests to purchase the rights to Easter Island from Spain for 25,000 US $.


 * ​ Spain didn't really own Easter Island. In 1805, it was still ruled by the native islanders (The ones who made the heads). They were very aggressive toward attempts by British ships to land, so even if you did purchase it, you would have to use some force before you could use it.And anyway; you're nowhere near the pacific ocean. American whalers in the early 1800s just used the British ports in Australia and Tasmania.
 * The Spanish claimed it since a few years before America declared independence, so while they don't actually own it, they own the rights for it. We are trying to gain those rights. And remember, if Mecklenburg can start colonies in Africa, then America colonising one island in the pacific should not be difficult.
 * Sorry, I hadn't realised Spain had the rights. And you're right, it wouldn't be difficult, but I'm just wondering if your efforts mightn't be better used on another island. I mean, if Easter Island had had a useful harbour or port, than Spain would've settled it by now. There are heaps of better islands in the Pacific, that's all. And most of them are unclaimed by Europeans as yet.
 * When the Spanish claimed the island, they claimed it and landed. The natives didn't like that, and the spanish left shortly after. If the natives could be negotiated with netter or controlled, then they would have. Easter Island is the closest unclaimed island in the Pacific to the United States at this time. If Spain ignores this whole thing, then I might just have to take it myself.
 * Portugal: Portugal captures and tiny Spanish village and razes it due to Spain not agreeing to peace. They also capture Rio De Janeiro and continue to attack Sao Paulo. In Recife, 7,500 rebels are hanged in the city square and 50 civilians were killed because of a rebel attack in Natal. Portugal begins burning down the Brazilian farms and the rain forest. Portugal won't top this harsh treatment until the Brazilian rebels back down. Portugal also increases its border army and is prepared for a fight with Spain.
 * Brandenburg: the troops which were helping the french return. following the idea put foward earlier brandenburg tries to form a german confederation, which would bind all the german states into one region while still remaining some degree of independance ( will need an RNG forr this ). the king passes away, and with his son still to young to control the countries the parliment takes over for the moment
 * Austria; More and more men are recruited and weapons made. Defensive walls are built around the borders, and Austria goes on the defensive.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: Duke Frederick Francis falls severely ill, and his son, Frederick Louis takes over as Regent. The Regent's first act is the overseeing of the final payment to Sweden. With the national debt payed off, the Ducal Treasury has more room to move. The Regent, an admirer of liberal thinking, gives the Diet more extensive powers. The Diet, which is filled with rich traders, is keen for the Duchy to establish another colony, and so the Diet begins asking Denmark if it might be interested in selling the Danish Virgin Isles. However, it will be two years by the Treasury's estimate, before the duchy would be able to afford them.
 * Britain: The Army remains on high alert in the Indian subcontinent. Since China cannot pass through(no military access granted) things seem to settle down. The Mughal empire has been annexed into the British Empire and the border with the Maratha Confederacy is secured. King George personally travels to Delhi to survey the new area. Although we support Portugal, we tell them that they are destroying a valuable colony when they use the destructive tactics they're using.
 * Portuguese Diplomacy: Portugal will stop their destruction of the colony due to the British warning but again ask Britian's help against Spain.
 * Announcement: the map is updated, check for anything i missed, corrections,etc.
 * Announcement: the map is updated, check for anything i missed, corrections,etc.

1806

 * 1) King George III of the United Kingdom dies, his second son William IV succeeds him as King with his wife Louise Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Schwerin as Queen.
 * 2) The Portuguese begin to make gains in Brazil
 * 3) People in New Granada begin to make calls for dominion status from Spain
 * 4) The Spanish assault on Portugal is defeated
 * United States: The United States continues to experience settlers moving to the west, and more government officials move west to maintain the government's authority. The U.S. government ask Spain again on our offer. Update: (1-5 yes, 6-10, no, 1 yes)
 * Portugal: Portugal captures Sao Paulo and begins heading to Brasilia. Portugal also stops its destruction of farms and forests and hires people to rebuild. 6,500 rebels are killed in Natal by Portugal. Troops are drafted and more people are fighting the Spanish. Portugal asks Britian for help and offers Spainish territory for Britian if they win.
 * Japan: The Japanese Shogunate begins to build infrastructure and increases taxes on the wealthy feudal lords to cover expenses.
 * Spain: Spain agrees to give New Granada dominion status willing not to repeat the same mistakes with Mexico. Spain invades Portugal (some one make alogythm for that). They politley decline Mexico's demand for independence since it already gived them a lot of what they needed to appease them.
 * RWG quit saying things like that because they are not the outcome. I told you to stop or face a ban.
 * Sorry! I told someone to make an alogythm. Geez!
 * You can always do it yourself you know. 
 * I can't do those! Seriously! Can't!
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The old, ailing duke, Frederick Francis, does not long outlive king George III. His son, the regent, Frederick Louis scends to the ducal throne. He sends his deepest sympathies to the British royals, as well as congratulating William on his kingship. The new Duke travels to Berlin to discuss the proposed German Confederation with the King of Brandenburg. Meanwhile, the officers of the army are schooled in the most modern military tactics. Williamsburg in Africa is attacked by natives, but they are beaten off. The Governor of the african colony gets the native tribes to sign a treaty, giving them rights to representation in the colonial Diet.
 * Siam: Siam continues updating its technology and will support the Quing Dynasty's forces in relation to the Mughal matter.
 * Nueva granada: with autonomy finally granted massive celebrations erupt throughout the area, the Commonwealth of Nueva Granada is declared as constitutional monarchy with the king of spain and his representative the viceroy as head of state and a parliment similar to the british one will be drafted along with a constitution. improvement of infrustructure continues and the first rail line in the area is started from Bogota to Caracas . the first national militia is created which will later be made into an army. A final request is made to spain to lift the metropolis policy so that the local economy can grow further helping the economy of the spanish empire due to the fact that it will open new income sources. Neutrality is declared in the current conflict for now but if fighting spreads to the dominions borders it will fight.
 * YOU ASKED FOR A DOMINION.
 * 'Well, that sort of is a dominion. Australia was described as a dominion, but it was technically the Commonwealth of Australia. In fact, very few of the British "dominions" were actually styled as such. 
 * its just a name and technically it would be a common wealth or federation considering it was those of the venezuelan, colombian and ecudorian areas even then they felt a divide between them culturally, while still maintaining a dominion status.
 * And on another note: A railway line from Bogota to Caracas! In 1806!? The first major British railway, the Stockton to Darlington Railway, which was only 40km long. In my opinion, a railway that goes virtually across a continent is unthinkable right now. 
 * and alright ill make the rail line in bogota only for now fair enough?
 * Yeah, that's good.
 * France: France begins to rebuild the infastructure in the southern Italian states. The French Navy continues to expand and the army is expanded. Napoleon asks that France withdraws from Spain, and denounces the razing tatics of Portugal, but will not do nothing.
 * Russia: More people move Eastward, and more workshops are set up.
 * Britain: With the situation in the Indian subcontinent seemingly over, Britain looks to other issues. First they make commision settlements on the west coast of Australia in order to join east and west settlements later in the future. The Crown issues the Victoria Declaration, a document stating that any nation that enters australia with plans to colonize will be met by force. The NPA establishes an Australian Headquarters.
 * hi, sorry to bother you. I have no problem with a British settlement in western Australia, but, in the last game, people made settlements in all sorts of weird and impossible places there, so just remember that only the South-Western corner is able to be properly settled. Also, "Australia" didn't exist at this time, the British colony was called New South Wales.
 * Brandenburg: the german states meeting comes to an end with the creation of the berlin accord, which creates a union between all german staes who sign to support each other economically and in war, and to have a council with representitives from all member states to decide international issues
 * will need a random . org check to decide which states join 
 * Ottoman Empire: Ottoman Empire says that it will never ally with a British ally unless necessary. Expansion in Africa continues.

1807
All German confederation RNGs will be done by me, i need you guys to tell me which states though--AP
 * Okay, here goes: Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Bavaria, Saxony, Wurrtemberg, Baden, Archbishopric of Salzburg, Kingdom of Bohemia (part of Austrian empire though), Kingdom of Hannover (in personal union with Britain though), Hesse-Kassell, Hesse Darmstadt, Bishopric of Muenster, Duchies of Saxe, Saxe Meinigen, Saxe Coburg, Saxe Gotha, Saxe Coburg and Gotha, Duchy of Brunswick, Duchy of Oldenburg, Principality of East-Frisland, Principality of Reuss, both of them, ....And they're only the stand-outs.
 * ​This is going to be way to confusing and impossible. In otl, Napoleon went into Germany and sorted all the hundreds of tiny states into about thirty reasonable-sized ones. If a mod event is made stating that Napoleon does just that (with player-controlled nations staying the same), then everything happens much easier. (for a list of german states post french intervention, seehere ) Callumthered
 * Solution: The Confederation of the Rhine is formed maybe?
 * Yeah, that's sort of what I was leanig towards...But called the German Confederation.
 * 1) Britain settles South-West Australia, the William Declaration is passed.
 * ​Victoria doesn;t even exist yet!
 * 1) New Granada joins the Spanish Commonwealth as a dominion of Spain
 * 2) Russia's economy begins to grow
 * 3) The Brazilian war of independence turns in favor of Portugal
 * 4) Daimyos(feudal lords) in Japan protest against taxes, demanding the lowering of taxes
 * 5) With American settlement in the West increasing, the concept of Manifest Destiny takes hold
 * ​Spain: It continues to fight against Portugal and send supplies to Brazil, hopping they can gain independence. They ask France to split Portuguese possessions if it joins with it.
 * Alright RWG stop crossing things out annoyingly without consulting or even finding out about it. 1 Victoria was a mistake, it was William. 2 You are biased, just because Spain is supporting Brazil doesnt mean they can't have the upper hand 3 You're the biggest hypocrit ever! When Aztlan revolted you begged for help and now you support a rebellion against another nation? From now on you're only allowed to make "suggestions", no crossing out text until further notice
 * Shut up, okay?! Look, I am trying to do my best! STOP COMPLAINING!! If there's a mistake, I'll try to fix it!
 * Commonwealth of Nueva Granada: the commonwealth government copntinues expanding the new militia making it 3000 men now and they are armed with spanish muskets. the constitution is written and signed by members of the new parliment. the economy is localized to gain better eficiency and the local industry (i mean mining, workshops, etc not massive industry) are brought into the hands of local investors or new blood. several factories are built in Bogota along with the construction of the first rail line within the capital. plans to purchase more slaves from africa for work in fields and factories are put into place.
 * Russia: More people move Eastward, and more Workshops open up.
 * Portugal: Portugal continues to fight with Spain on the border. Portugal conquers more cities on the coast and attacks rebel strongholds. Portugal asks Britian for help and will stop razing Brazil. Portugal begins sending more warships and troops to Brazil.
 * Quing: It does not even now retracts it's declaration of war. Life though goes normally in China, as Tibetans begin distancing themselves from Quing Influence. The massive Quing Army is spread through all of China, the dynasty continues encouraging factory workers to work for better quality weapons, but little planning of stragety how to use the weapons. Better roads and systems of roads are made to make it easier to move around. (The Quing Dynasty had a large treasury at the time, due to no rival in Asia, and total peace in the dynasty...for now.) 
 * Aztaln: Dmages from the war are finaly fixed. Gold is discovered in Aztaln California, and a gold rush begins, resulting in an immigration boom and jumpstarting Aztlans expansion into OTL Oregon Country and regions north of Aztlan. With the infulx of settlers, Aztlan begins to grow exponentialy.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Ducal treasury declares the nations's coffers full enough to begin with the purchase of the Danish Virgin Isles. The Government goes into preliminary negotiations with Denmark about the potential purchase (Can an unbiased mod do an RNG on that please?) In Africa, the trust of the local tribespeople is gained once more when the colonists defeat their enemies in battle. Many of the locals begin to be educated in German ways in the colonial school. The ivory trade is going well. Back at home, and Duke Frederick Louis travels again to Berlin to greet all the new members of the German Confederation, and to discuss how it will work. Taking the opportunity of milling around heaps of royalty, the duke announces that his sister, Charlotte Frederica, is now in searh of a royal, christian, husband. (No offense ottomans or Marathas or Quings, but European royalty just didn't marry Muslims, Hindus or...whatever the Quing dynasty was.)
 * U.S. Diplomacy: Louis Joseph, the heir to the throne of France, is 28 and has no wife. THe United States is willing to negotiate on his behalf.
 * DoM-S Diplomacy: Whilst the Duke thanks the USA for it's kind request, the he does not wish to threaten his relationship with Napoleonic France by marrying into the old Bourbon family.
 * French Diplomacy: We don't car, as long as they don't try to get power back again.
 * No offense taken, although a Muslim man would marry a pious christian or jewish wife. Although, me knows that no Euros would marry Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, etc.
 * DoM-S DIplomacy: Seeing as Napoleonic France does not disprove; The Duke accepts Louis Joseph's offer, and Charlotte Frederica travels to the United States to marry him.
 * France: France begins to improve the economy of the new colonies and expand 'em as well. The military is expanded and Napoleon begins to expand the infastructure of the Empire.
 * Britain: The colonies in Africa and New South Wales are expanded, the William Declaration is passed. The new King and Queen visit the queen's homeland of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

1808

 * 1) Russia's economic growth continues
 * 2) Portugal is close to putting down the Brazilian rebellion
 * 3) The German Confederation is formed(with the exception of Hannover,Bohemia, and Saxe Coburg and Gotha
 * 4) *​Just wondering, can the British player control Hannover?
 * 5) *Maybe. The UK and Hannover were in a personal union, but they had two separate monarchs(although most of the time the king of Hannover was a brother or other relative of the king of the UK).
 * Aztlan: Silver is discovered in OTL Nevada, more than doubling the number of immigrants coming in. Aztlan begins to build a modern navy and army with the money from the gold and silver and with the new amount of able bodied men thearmy nealry doubles. Aztlan begins to send some of this gold and silver to Spain.
 * Alrite Sims because i belive i made things right with you maybe the ban is too harsh. Gold will proceed but no expansion until the gold rush has advanced long enough to fill your treasury.
 * Look, here it is. Gold could have been discovered at anytime, although it would likely not spread the influence of Aztlan unless the government sends many people out there. And the gold discovered is mostly going to the people who find it, not the government. Everyone, slow down your expansion. Monster Pumpkin 22:04, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * United States: The United States sends a small fleet of military and merchant ships to secure the nation's new island in the pacific. When they arrive, they are amazed at the colossal structures and writing they find there. They begin construction of a fort there, believing that they are building at the capital of a lost civilization. Hamilton heres of the news, and now that a trading post is under way, he requests a trade agreement with China. Settlers continue to flock to lands into the west, sometimes coming into conflict with the natives there.
 * C. Nueva Granada: more money is put into the economy and the government begins a plan for exploiting the nation's vast resources for trading and the planned industrialization once it begins. several individuals start powering money into the construction of factories and into the expansion of agriculture, creating an oligarchy in the economy, this individuals begin purchasing more slaves from africa to work in the commonwealth. the militia is turned into the commonwealth army with a total of 7000 men with plans to expand the army in the future. a campaign begins to suppress the natives and make way better conditions for settelers.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: Having seen is sister back to London, the young Duke arrives back in Schwerin just in time to welcome his other sister and her new groom, who are to live in the Duchy. The Diet officially passes a bill making the Duchy join the German Confederation. The army and navy stay the same, and their quality is maintained. The Duke, finishing his whirlwind year, travels to Copenhagen to discuss the possible purchase of the Danish Virgin Isles with the King of Denmark. (RNG, please?)\
 * ​(1-5 yes. 6-10 no. 4, yes)
 * DoM-S: The Duke's presence tips the odds in Mecklenburg's favour, and the deal is made. The duchy's treasury makes the first of the payments to Copenhagen, and a small military detachment is sent to the Carribean to take posession of the Virgin Isles.
 * Portugal: Portugal executes more rebels and captures more cities in Brazil. They ask Spain for peace and offer Sao Tome and Principe for peace. Portugal begins building a military fort in Belem. Portugal still asks Britian for help.
 * Brandenburg: pleased the confederation of the german states, brandenburg asks the leave of other confederation members for rivers within the confederation to be opened to all other states so that brandenburg can finally have access to the ocean via the Elbe irver
 * Spain: They demand that Brazil be a commonwelath if Portugal was to end the war. They slowly expand their Moroccoan colony southwest. They make expeditions throughout the Pacific, mainly to discover new islands. It begins a rapid industrialization program to build factories across the country and its empire.
 * Britain: Efforts are put into expanding the south african colony in order to outdo the Dutch in the region. King William commisions settlements in the claimed islands of New Zealand. Britain tells Spain to stand down, as it had no place in the war anyway. The King denounces Spain as hypocritical because it supports a colonial independence movement yet begged for help to put down the Aztlan rebellion a few years back. Britain offers an alliance to the new German confederation and encourage France to join it too in order to improve relations amongst the three presumed most powerful nations.
 * France: France also asks for trade agreements and alliances with the German Confederation, and trade agreements with Britain. Meanwhile, the infastructure and military is improved, and France expands its colones in Africa. France demands that Spain stand down, or will come to the aid of the innocet Portugal.
 * Spanish Diplomacy: We will if Portugal steps down. We are trying to end the violence.
 * French Diplomacy: Okay. Both you and Portugal should step down immeaditly.

1809
Y'all can post now...
 * 1) The Brazilian War of Independence is over. (Peace negotiations begin in the talk page)
 * 2) Manifest Destiny takes an even greater hold in the United States
 * 3) The Duchy of M-S has purchased the Danish Virgin Islands
 * 4) An early treaty of Waitangi is negotiated
 * France: France continues to improve its military both technology and knowledge, with gureilla warfare tatics being trained now. France expands its colonies, and establishes two along the coast of OTL Somolia to have an presence in the Middle East without actually being the Middle East.
 * Russia: With the economic growth, the Government starts to raise more money in taxes. Most of the funds raised are placed in the Treasury. Meanwhile, more Workshops open up, with the resources coming in from the East, like Lumber, the Workshops are booming.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Virgin Isles are now under the duchy's full control, and the sugar trade is booming. A regiment is raised from the new colony. The government has had to introduce austerity measures, but the ports are booming, since the Duchy has only ports in the Confederation.
 * Spain: It begins mass colonization of Patagonia when it begins giving out land for free. They continue their industrialization process, using new technologies into other convieniences as well. They establish a colony at the northern tip of Madagascar.
 * You're not permitted to change the map and you can't colonize that much in 1 year. So, i'm crossing your claim out in punishment.
 * I changed the map. Enclavehunter 06:20, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine. I'll let you all off with a warning, dont change the map! However i did reduce colonies down to a reasonable size.
 * Mods can change maps to, not just mapmakers. Enclavehunter 06:37, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Britain: The Treaty of Waitangi is negotiated with Maori chiefs in new Zealand, establishing a British government in New Zealand that respects Maori natives and gives them rights as British citizens in exchange for colonizing rights. Canada and south africa are expanded. A colony in southern Madagascar is established. We claim the OTL Papua New Guinea island. Britain will moderate the end-of-war treaty.
 * Nueva Granada: construction of the bogota rail line continues. More money is poured into the construction of factories in Bogota and caracas. the suppression campaign against the natives in the south of the common wealth continues to expand farmland and make way for more settlers. more slaves are bought off traders from africa. attempts to get more people to migrate to the commonwealth. Spanish, and french are made the national languages.
 * Aztlan; The Gold and Silver rush continue, but now the Aztlan goevernment has created the National Mining Company under the Aztlan governments direct control, and it begins to employ thousands fo miners, allowing more money to be put into the military. Immigration begins to grow as well.
 * United States: Many more settlers move west, eager to spread America's greatness to the world. The government starts negotiations with western Natives to reduce violence. The government claims the entire Oregon territory, and will begin sending troops out to explore it. The fort and trading post on Easter Island is about completed.

1810
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 * 1) New Granada gains high debts from all of their costly actions
 * 2) Aztlan experiences some economic growth(don't take this too far Sims)
 * 3) With American claims to the Oregon Country, settlers move out west due to the hold of Manifest Destiny
 * 4) The early Treaty of Waitangi is signed


 * Portugal: Portugal begins rebuiling Brazil and begins to recover from the war. The new capital of Brazil will be heavily Portuguese occupied city of Natal. Portugal improves their economy and tries to rebuild. They ask Britian for some aid to help them. Cape Verde had become a great banking colony during the war and Portugal is receiving some money from that. They ask Britian and France for an alliance.
 * Spain decides to improve their relations with Portugal after the war in Brazil. They colonize most of Patagonia and encourage colonization in the Philippines and Borneo. They continue their industrialization, but also encourage mining of valuable resources in South America.
 * Britain: Britain decides to send monetary aid to Portugal after the destructive war in Brazil. A colony is finally founded in Papua New Guinea. The colony of south africa is expanded to surround the Dutch colony in an effort to curb Dutch power in Africa. Settlements begin appearing in New Zealand's southern island after the Treaty of Waitangi is approved by Parliament.
 * Portuguese Diplomacy: Portugal thanks Britian by allowing them to have full access to all Brazilian ports if needed.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The austereity measures are seemingly working, as a substantial amount of the debt has been payed off. Two infantry regients are stood down on quarter-pay to help the measures. Trade with the rest of the German Confederation has greatly increased, with the duchy providing much of the Confederation's sugar and ivory needs.
 * Brandenburg: brandenburgs econemy is booming with the increased trade between confederation members and suggests that the confederation form its own colonies in africa and the americas.
 * Nueva Granada: starts downplaying its spending due to high costs but all projects are continued in moderation, wthe economic benifits start showing from the new basic industry and the expanded agriculture. the campaign against the natives continues with most having been killed or sunjegated by now.
 * Japan: The Japanese Shogunate expands the ecomomy and begins to modernize the famous Samurai warriors. Japan knows of the foriegn powers but chooses to remain neutral.
 * Aztlan: The National Mining Company now dominates over 50% of the gold and silverin Aztlan, and with the immigration coming in, Aztaln encourages there settlment of the oregon Country, mostly the pacific Coast area, and its slwoly begins to be settled by Aztlan. The Aztlan governemnt continues to aly claim to all of the Oregon Country, althouigh it cant enforce it in to many areas. Spain is asked if Aztlan can buy its freedom ina frm of yearly gold and silver payments. Note, Aztlan is not doing anything to big, its only doing what it should do.
 * The US already claimed the entire Oregon country last turn
 * I can still settle it, Spain claimed the area before the USA, and since Aztlan is still technicaly part of Spain, Aztaln can continue that claim in the name of Spain.
 * United States: The United States, under Thomas Jefferson's approval, sends explorers such as Lewis and Clark and other military officials into the Oregon County. This is to prevent conflict between settlers and natives.
 * Aztaln: Aztaln suggests a joint occupation/claim to the Oregon Country with the USA until such time that it is sufficently populated by both nations and the land can be officaly diveded.
 * France: France continues to expand its colonies in Africa. Meanwhile, the military is expanded, and an SECRET invasion force is assembled along the Batavian Republic. France SECRETLY asks Britain to join in on the invasion, as it can recieve the DUtch colonies across the globe. The military is expanded and the navy is expanded. France officillay recongizes Haiti as an independent nation, and offers them trade agreements.
 * We'll consider it, however it may have an international backlash.
 * (secret) British Diplomacy: We're in. Count on us.
 * (secret) Aztlan Diplomacy: Aztaln offers troops if Aztaln can have the Dutch South American Guyana.
 * Quing Dynasty: As the state of war against Britain is not lifted, it decides to begins to send assasins and sabtouge missions to India, modernization is taken as top priority, harsh policies are made in the west against farmers, to keep money flowing.
 * Explain to me what this means: "It does not even now retracts it's declaration of war"--You 3 turns ago.

1811
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 * 1) France and Britain assemble an invasion force against the Batavian Republic(secretly,lol)
 * 2) Chinese spies are captured and executed by the British in India for their actions
 * 3) American immigration into Oregon country expands and adds consistency to their claims
 * 4) New Granada's economy enters a recession after high costs and spending of the state
 * Spain: It is forced to intervene in New Granada due to the reccession. They discover new deposits of valuable minerals and gems across South America and mine them in an attmept to gain more money. They support Aztlan's need to join occupy the Oregon Country and asks America if they can do it.
 * Aztlan Diplmoacy: Aztaln asks Spain to send as many settlers as possible to Aztaln so it can setttle the Oregon Country and also asks for Spain to send troops to help defend the Aztlan/Spanish settlers in the region.
 * Brandenburg: after a meeting of the confederation, the following things are decided. river ports will be put to more extensive use, and all confederation states will help build more ports and update the navy. the east african colonie of Williamsburg is expanded dramatically with immigrants from all confederation states flocking there. A west african colonie is started and named Engelburg. the militaries belonging to each state will meet in Hamburg the following year to train cohesivly and share tactics, signal systems, and generally become more united
 * Nueva Granada: the government spending keeps getting cut down and projects start falling in private hands. the government promotes a stronger liberal agenda to lift up the economy. the agricultural production and manufacturing show signs of earnings with in the next few years so the government sees its spendings as worth it. the suppression campaign continues.
 * Message from Spain: Spain will have to send economic and financial inspectors to ensure that they do not make the same mistakes again. Also, they encourage more economical and financial experts to the government.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The docks and shipyards of the Duchy are flooded with orders from the various Confederation member-states. This brings much wealh to the duchy, which is still helping to pay off the debt to Denmark. The new, joint navy is begun, with the Duchy's navy making up the core force. Many civillian ships are chartered to take the German settlers to Williamsburg and Engelburg, in Africa. The Duchy's chiefs of staff travel to Berlin to plan next year's joint training programme.
 * Aztaln: Aztaln continues to support Spains claim, and there for its, claim to the Oregon Country, and immigataoin casued by the Gold Rush begins to settle in the region under the Aztlan and Spanish Flags. Spain begins to be paid gld and silver bullion as a thansk for not being to harsh in the Atlan Rebellions after math. Aztaln asks Spain to send as many settlers as possible to Aztaln so it can setttle the Oregon Country faster.
 * Sims for the last time, the Oregon country is now an AMERICAN claim! Doing this will make you go to war with them. I've told you this at least three times before so stop.
 * Hey, relax. Claiming something does not mean we own it automatically, only that there will be either war or diplomatic troubles ahead. 
 * France: France declares war on the Batavian Republic, and with the leadership of Napoleon, defeats the Batavian Army. The French Army soon reaches Amsterdam, and lay siege to the town. Meanwhile, the Fourth Imperial Act is passed, expanding the military and begins to research into advance technology. The colonies are expanded.
 * Don't forget Britain is helping you !
 * I know. That's why I didn't advance and surround the town, so the British can help out.
 * United States: America continues to send more and more soldiers and government officials west, and the government agrees to Aztlan's proposal. The fort on Easter Island is completed, and construction of a town begins so that the natives can be properly educated.
 * Britain: We aid the French in their campaign in exchange for the pre-agreed proposal of Dutch colonies. Canada is expanded westward and a line is created along the OTL north border between the US/Canada present day border to prevent any foreign penetration into our claims. Colonies are expanded particularly in New Zealand and Africa.
 * Ottoman Empire: Ottomans offer the Chinese an alliance.
 * Portugal: Portugal continues to rebuild Brazil and is making progress with the aid of Britian. Portugal offers very limited trade to Spain. Portugal's economy improve after the war and lives are becoming normal again. Portugal begins to look in Africa for possible colonies but makes no progress.

1812
You may post now.
 * 1) The recession in Granada continues. Many blame it on the inexperienced Commonwealth government that took power and spent so much
 * 2) Batavian forces are quickly overwhelmed by a combined Anglo-Franco force.
 * 3) Brazil makes gains in its reconstruction
 * 4) The Oregon Country is now settled and claimed by the US and Aztlan
 * Spain is forced to order restraints in New Granada, accusing them of overspending, They demand that the government eliminate spening on areas unneccessary or fruitless. They praise Aztlan and America for reaching a deal over the Oregon Territory. They expand their Madagascar colony south, sending expeditions to the interior of the island.
 * Nueva Granada: the commonwealth government focuses its efforts on the agricultural and manufacturing sections of the new economy to lift the commonwealth out of reccession and the construction of the raillines and the purchasing of slaves is halted for now. a few individuals begin exploiting the nations natural resources ( private hands not government doesnt coubnt as government spending) the suppression campaign is ended and the army has cut backs until the economy has stabalized a request for spanish soldiers to be stationed in Nueva Granada until that time is requested from the homeland.
 * Britain: Canada continues to be expanded westward, with the Crown claiming OTL Alaska . All other colonies are expanded. The Crown continues to pour money into the reconstruction of Brazil to expedite the process. Madagascar is also expanded to almost mid-point.Amsterdam is encircled and a Batavian surrender is imminent, with a final push expected by the French. An invasion of the remainder of the Indian subcontinent is planned, but kept secret.
 * ATTENTION: I am updating the map today, so let me know on the talk page what needs to be updated.AP
 * Austria-Hungary: More troops are trained and more defensive forts and walls are placed around the borders.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: The Confederation's expeditions to establish a new colony in Western Africa arrive in otl Kenya. Engelsburg is founded, and a governor appointed. Meanwhile, the duchy takes part in the Confederation-wide military exercises. The ducal treasury estimates that Denmark will be fully repaid early next year.
 * Germans, slow down on the colonies you just united. In less than two turns you've made like three different colonies.
 * actually, we,ve only made one new colony, the other already existed, we're just expanding it
 * France: France makes its final push into Amsterdam and captures the Batavian Republic. Upon occupation, all Dutch colonies are part of the British Empire, because of pre-war agreement. THe military expansion continues, and expansion of the French colonies occurs. THe Fourth Imperial Act is passed.
 * Britain: We thank France for honoring our agreement. We hope for continued good relations.
 * Quing Dynasty: Accepts Ottoman Alliance, spies are sent to cause sabatoge on military bases in British India and assasinations attempts are made upon unpopular governors, which gains the Dynasty a comftrable reputation, 10,000 troops are moved to Tibet to restore influence. (China moved troops to Tibet all the time with governors allowing them to, due to massive Chinese Influence, though began to break away.) An army of 213,000 is organized with nearly modern standards, the Navy undergoes review.

1813
You may now post.
 * 1) Tibetans resist Chinese attempts to influence the region
 * 2) The Batavian Republic has been defeated by the British and the French
 * 3) The economic recession in New Granada continues

There's a new rule i adopted from another map game, please look at it.AP

United States: The United States continues to send more people out west, and trade with Asian nations increases due to the new fort and trading post on Easter Island. '''Also, should Russia have claimed Alaska by now? I know Britain claimed it, but still...'''

Yes, even before this game started.

'''Yes, that's right. Cross-out British claims to all Alaska.AP'''


 * Britain: Quing spies, being trained by primitive and unreliable people, are captured and executed. The William Plan(plan to invade the rest of the Indian subcontinent, respecting other European ports of course) is executed. From our holdings the Maratha Confederacy is invaded and the army marches to the south.(algorithm coming). King William requests a meeting with France in London.
 * French Diplomacy: Napoleon agrees to attend the meeting.
 * You know you just betrayed a good ally (Maratha) which will make all hell break lose in India against you to you literally backstabbing an ally. Just saying. Ianian58 03:27, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * France: The miltiary is expanded, and the French Navy is improved. The Dutch are given equal rights in the Empire, and the French colonies are expanded. Napoleon begins construction on an military base in Sicily.


 * Portugal: Portugal continues to rebulid Brazil and Portugal. They also improve their infrastructure and economy. Their militray is also improved


 * Quing Dynasty: Quing Merchants in Maratha begin selling weapons and supplies to the Indian Nation, the Quing Dynasty mocks British betrayl of a nation, and calls out against European Imperialism, the army moves again to the south, requesting nations to allow the 200,000 man army to pass. (Algorthim)


 * RNG: (1-8 No, 9-10 Yes: Result- 5 No) If you're wondering why the 'no' chance is can be 80%, refer to the rules.


 * British Diplomacy: We were never allied with the Marathas anyway. Also why the hell do you care about what happens in India, you don't even share a border with us! And HA Quing weapons how frightening. I do give you props for being the first to make gunpowder.


 * Quing Diplomacy: Such diplay of arrogance amazes the Emperor. You allied yourself with the Marthra's when you invaded the Mughals, to invade an innocent nation for your own expansion is a pathetic act, worst of all, you believe you can take on the Marthra's on home turf, while you are on the other side of the world, while their numbers are largers, and they have decent equipment, and the Quing can also muster decent enough equipment. Weapons are weapons, no? Meaning a sword on the throat is quite nerve-breaking.


 * We were never allied with them, we just fought the same entity that does not imply an alliance. And do you really think we don't have a standing army in India already? Also again i would like to know why you care so much you don't share a border with South Asia! And no they aren't as large as you would think.


 * It's logical you just came out of a war in India that you already have an army there, yet the Marthra, in their homeland, which their independence was threatened have a pretty big army to inform you, India is an important trade route for China, if India is dominated fully by Europe, China would have to use difficult trade routes, and China expresses anti-European colonism in Asia. Also, we should stop arguing before other people get mad at us. Ianian58 03:56, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll offer you this: Respect British domination of India and we'll sign a non-agression pact with you AND we'll have a trade zone so you won't use those difficult trade routes.
 * I'll admit, it will become very difficult for China to trade with other nations without India, but it can survive, it still greatly dislikes Euopean Colonism, and worse, colonism for simple expansion, it will not accept this and it will aid the Marthra any way it can. Ianian58 04:22, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, that's fine. I want you to know that we both can't fight one another because the nations are not allowing military passage to either of us. After the war i'll still trade with you.


 * ATTENTION PEOPLE! Russia is now available! Please message me if you would like to use it.
 * Spain forces most governmental officials in the New Granadan Commonwealth parliment to abdicate for professional financial businessmen, who might be able to end the recession. Few officials who are responsible for the recession and the reckless spending are fined millions (not too much though), who use the money to help against the recession.


 * Duchy of Meclenburg-Schwerin: the treasury makes the final repayment to Denmark, putting the Virgin Isles finally under complete German control. The other two German colonies are consolidated, with houses and forts being built. Back in the duchy, the duke makes trade unions legal.
 * Nueva Granada: the parliment refuses to disrupt its elected camara unless the populace call for a no confidence vote. The Oligarchy that dominates the factories and great estancias offers to start taking care of the debts by financing the economy them selves which due to the large pockets of the aristocracy and merchants the government reluctently accepts but due to the situation in the country they have no other choice further empowering the economic sector and undermining the government influence outside of the political field, the prime minister of renounces in light of the nations situation and Santander will become a nominee for the next elections running against Bolivar they each form their parties respectively the Granadan Liberal party under Santander, and the united conservative party under bolivar.
 * Aztaln: Aztaln continues to support Spains claim, and there for its, claim to the Oregon Country, and immigataoin casued by the Gold Rush begins to settle in the region under the Aztlan and Spanish Flags. Spain continues to be paid gld and silver bullion as a thansk for not being to harsh in the Atlan Rebellions after math. Aztaln asks Spain to send as many settlers as possible to Aztaln so it can setttle the Oregon Country faster. Aztaln continues to slowly settle the Oregon Country, most notably the Pacific coast line. SPAIN IS ASKED FOR SETTLERS.
 * United States: Soldiers representing the U.S. start to build forts along the Pacific coastline, and more settlers move due to the added protection. Vancouver Island is claimed, and Thomas Jefferson promises to negotiate with the British about it if they object.
 * British Reply: Despite British claims to the island, King William IV wishes to gift Vancouver Island to the US to pursue good relations.
 * Crap, I just noticed I posted for this turn already. Can we do this next turn instead? 

1814
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 * 1) Britain's army marches south steadily, with relatively high casualties.
 * 2) The Marathas experience moderate casualties due to their home turf advantage
 * 3) The US is gifted Vancouver Island from Britain
 * 4) Settlement of the Oregon Country continues
 * 5) Revolts in New Granada break out against the overspending government that refuses to step down
 * France: France continues to improve infastructure of the former Batavian Republic. Expansion of the colonies continue, and is expected that the French Somolia will go pass the borders of OTL Ethiopia. France continues to improve its economy and modernize its military. Napoleon continues move forces into southern Italy. France begins to wage war against the Barbary Pirate States.
 * Britain: King William IV declares that Canada has reached the end of its expansion. All other colonies are expanded especially in Africa and New Zealand. The war in the Indian subcontinent continues and the army marches south towards wherever the Maratha capital is(lol i really don't know). The Swahili coast is claimed and settlers arrive there in the fall. NEgotiations begin with the Swahili tribes. King William IV personally travels to the United States to present President Jefferson with the deed to Vancouver Island.
 * Nueva Granada: the government accepts early elections with the liberal party, the conservative party, and the Partido progresista granadina (prgressive granadan party) lead by Umberto De la Vega a local aristocrat who fors part of the economic oligarchy, many look to him with hopes. ( for the love of god please let start moving on in a positive direction not continued collapse im getting a bit tired of it.) Tabaco, wheat and live cattle become the largest products sold from the common wealth.
 * This is being realistic in response to your actions as Granada, don't complain.
 * Portugal: Portugal improves their infrastructure and military. They continue to rebuild Brazil and is making great progress. Portugal offers Britian and France help if needed due to they supported Portugal against Spain. Portugal also improves their African colonies and their economy.
 * French Diplomacy: France acknowledges Portugal, and thanks them.
 * Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin: With denmark payed back and the Government balance going back into the blue, many of the regiments put onto quarter pay are brought back to full functionality. The Grand Admiral of the Confederation sets up the Naval Offices in Rostock, the main port of the Duchy. Many settlers from the poorer states of the Confederation flock to the Virgin Isles. In the Diet of the Duchy, the Landwirtschaftliche Partei (Agricultural party) and the Deutschland Partei win the majority. The Duchy becomes the first in the Confederation to introduce the metric system. The duke himself personally advocates for the simplicity and effectiveness of the new system.
 * Brandenburg: brandenburg anouces a national festival in germany to celebrate their unification. and also brings the topic of carribian possesions to the table. he suggests that all colonies belonging to any of the states should now belong to the confederation