States of America: Northern Defeat (Map Game)

Hello, and welcome to States of America: Northern Defeat!

POD
In this Map Game, the USA made more early gains in Canada, worrying the UK, as they wanted to keep some of their North American colonies, so they committed a larger force, utterly crushing the USA at several battles, the most notable being the Battle of Niagara. After the USA was driven from Canada, vengeful British Commanders continued down through the USA, burning many cities to the ground. When Washington was burnt down, the USA was destroyed. The Northern States, frustrated with the failure of the US government to defend them, declared independence, and the Southern States declared independence to give them the power to control their own laws. As casualties mounted, the British halted their expansion and withdrew from all but the Ohio Country and parts of Maine, which were annexed.

However, your probably wondering how this all happened with the British having the available forces, At the Battle of Leipzig in Saxony (16–19 October 1813), also called the "Battle of the Nations", 191,000 French fought more than 300,000 Coalition forces, and in OTL the French won, but in this TL the French were routed after Napoleon was killed by enemy soldiers, allowing the British to end the Napoleonic Wars by the end of 1813 and send a large amount of troops to fight the Americans, allowing the this TL's ending to the War of 1812.

Rules
The Game starts in 1816.

Turns are in years.

Game will start with just the former American states.

After three turns, the game will expand to include all of North America.

Every day at 5 PM Eastern Standard Time a new turn will start, and anyone may post the new turn.

Moderators

 * Co-Head Mod : DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It
 * Co-head Mod Local (talk)
 * Co-head Mod/Algo: Feudalplague (talk) 20:22, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Founders
DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It and  Mafia (talk)

Changes Needed
1817: New Spain advanced ~100 miles north into OTL Oregon Territory

OK, will fix it

1823: Naples some land on the coast of OTL Namibia

1824: Russia needs some land in OTL Gabon

North America

 * Confederate Republics of America:Reximus55 (talk)
 * Republic of Mississippi: Reximus55 (talk)
 * Republic of Alabama: Reximus55 (talk)
 * Republic of Tennessee: Reximus55 (talk)
 * Republic of Virginia: Reximus55 (talk)
 * Republic of Kentucky: Reximus55 (talk)
 * State of Missouri: Reximus55 (talk)
 * State of Arkansas: Reximus55 (talk)
 * American Union:Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 21:57, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nuevo Espana: G greg e (talk) 06:46, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Quebec: Octivian Marius (talk) 22:24, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

South America and Caribbean

 * Brazil (Portuguese Colony):Warman555
 * Gran Colombia: Sine dei gloriem (talk) 15:15, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Caribbean Confederation:

Europe

 * Great Britain:  Mafia (talk)
 * France: canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg OreoToast555(Talk)(Sandbox) 20:44, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * German Empire: Feudalplague (talk) 23:32, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Prussia: Feudalplague (talk) 20:20, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hannover: Feudalplague (talk) 23:32, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bavaria: Feudalplague (talk) 23:32, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sweden-Norway:--Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 01:17, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * North Italy: --
 * Naples:Likenhaufen (talk) 16:29, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Spain:Bluetie (talk) 17:56, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Portugal: Crusher45 (talk) 22:40, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Austrian Empire: Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 19:23, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Russian Empire: Eronoc (talk) 03:33, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Netherlands:
 * Switzerland:
 * Denmark: Hailstormer (talk) 11:10, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Asia
China: Octiman10 18:09, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Japan: Chead813 (talk) 18:17, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Persia: Survivor321

Ottoman Empire: DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 22:28, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

Africa
Kingdom of Algeria: Vassal to Prussia (Feudalplague (talk) 23:08, July 22, 2013 (UTC))

Current Alliances

 * East-West Free Trade Organisation (Japan, Russia, Spain, Naples, Germany, and China)


 * American Union-German Trade Agreement


 * British-Persian Alliance


 * British-German Alliance and Trade Agreement


 * Chinese-German Trade and Research Agreement
 * Gran Colombian-CRA Alliance


 *  Japo-Neapolitan Alliance and Trade Agreement


 * Japo-Spanish Alliance and Trade Agreement


 * Neapolitan-Chinese Trade Agreement


 * Neapolitan-Northern Italian Alliance


 * Ottoman-Persian Alliance


 * Ottoman-Swiss Alliance


 * Persian-Portuguese Alliance
 * Persia to Russia Oil Trade Agreement


 * German-Dutch Trade Agreement
 * Russo-Chinese Trade Agreement
 * Russo-German Alliance and Trade Agreement
 * Russo-Japanese Alliance and Trade Agreement


 * Russo-Neapolitan Alliance and Trade Agreement
 * Russo-Spanish Alliance and Trade Agreement

1816
 The states of Maryland and Delaware unite to form the Republic of Chesapeake. 

 Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut sign the Treaty of Boston, forming a defensive pact between the three nations. 

 What remains of Maine breaks away from Massachusetts and aligns with New Hampshire and Vermont in able to defend itself. 

 Britain unites Nova Scotia with its gains in Maine. 

Virginia: Works on developing the military.

New York: Military, infrastructure and economy are improved.

Pennsylvania: Military develops, a pro-British political party begins to rise in power. New Jersey is asked to unite.


 * New Jersey Dip: 1-5 yes, 6-10 no: 5, Yes. New Jersey accepts Pennsylvania's offer.

North Carolina: Develops infrastructure. Repairs are made to any damages caused by the war. The economy is repairing. The Governor is declared the President until a constitution can be drafted and election rules made. He reforms the militias into a standing army. Numerous shipyards are built to develop a navy and a trade fleet. South Carolina is asked to unite.
 * Georgia Diplomacy: If South Carolina refuses, we offer to aid in an invasion in exchange for splitting it 35% Georgia, 65% North Carolina. We offer an alliance.
 * North Carolina Diplomacy: The President agrees to Georgia's offer and accepts their alliance offer.
 * South Carolina Diplomacy: 1-5 Unite, 6-10 independent (RNG Please)

Georgia: Governor is declared president temporarily until an emergency election can be held. Begins to repair infrastructure and raises a small navy. Forts are built off the coast to defend shipping.

Mississippi: The Democratic Republic of Mississippi works on a Declaration of Confederation, in which it invites Louisiana, Tennessee and Kentucky as the Confederate Republics of Southern America. Emphasis is placed upon sovereignty of each individual state, and the ability to allow free-trade between nation-states of the Confederacy. The military is improved, and Colonel Andrew Jackson is elected President of the Democratic Republic.
 * Mississippian Diplomacy: We propose an alliance with Virginia.
 * Mississippian Diplomacy: We ask to buy all of the land south of Mississippi from Spain for $7,500,000. (Louisiana Purchase OTL was $15,000,000, so it a generous offer).
 * If 1-10, one state accepts. If 10-20, two states accept. If 20-30 all states accept. (RNG please)
 * Louisiana was already American. Currently within its lands new nations are forming, but you can expand into it without causing war.
 * RNGs for the states: 1-6 Yes, 7-10 No: Kentucky 8, NO.  Tennessee, 6, YES. 
 * I'm playing as Louisiana. What is the name of the nation north of the OTL state?
 * Louisiana Territory.

​1817
Kentucky unites with Virginia.

Indiana unites with Ohio.

Chesapeake unites with Pennsylvania, re-organizing it into the Federated States of America.

Massachusetts unites with its allies Connecticut and Rhode Island.

FSA: Continues development, a pro-British political party continues to rise in power and popularity.

North Carolina: North Carolina continues development of the new nation. Roads are built to connect the country. A series of forts are started to be constructed around the borders. North Carolina offers to export cotton to any nation that wants to buy or trade. A constitution similar to the former United States is drafted. The current president will stay in office until elections, next year. The military is built up and several ships are in the process of being built. South Carolina is asked again if they will united with the north. '''RNG please. '''
 * Georgia Diplomacy: We ask North Carolina to aid us in liberating our territory of Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee and Kentucky. If you agree, we will give you Tennessee and Kentucky.
 * North Carolina Diplomacy: We regret that at this time the we are not ready to go to war yet and need to consolidate our nation first.

RNG By Dean: 1-7 Yes, 8-10 No. 2. YES
 * South Carolina Diplomacy: South Carolina accepts North Carolina's offer to Unite into one nation.
 * Just so you know, those territories your going to invade have been annexed by other players, so it would mean a full scale algorithm for the war. Once the game reaches North America then Florida will be up for sale.
 * Virginian Diplomacy: You want to give someone Kentucky? You have to take it off us. COME AT ME!

Ohio: The population overthrow the final remnants of the British Army and the Royal Navy as they unite with Indiana. The State Army is seen to be wearing blue versions of the uniform worn by the British Redcoats. They are also seen to be carrying British Army equipment and weapons, stolen during the British retreat from Ohio. Work begins on fortifications along the borders, which match to stolen British designs. Royal Navy cannon are seen in the former British strongholds throughout the state, still in working order and manned by Ohio gun crews.

You can't just give yourselves a load of weapons and designs Mafia (talk)

Georgia: A fort is constructed off the coast of Savannah for protection from the British and pirates. Five sloops are built, and armed with ten 8-inch falconet cannons, and 12 20-inch field guns. The capital is moved to the city of Athens temporarily. Construction begins on a new capital named Atlanta. A census is taken with a population of 6.9 million people. The military has 78,000 men in the militia, many operating in small towns.

5.2 million is about right, remember it's 1817, not 2013

A site I looked on said the population of Georgia in 1790 was 6.9 million.

'''OK, I trust you. I'll make it 6.9.'''

Canada:  forces from the empire help expand into the unclaimed land west of Canada.

'''You control the Canadian troops you can raise, not the British Empire troops, they will be neutral except to defend you if you are attacked. They will also go under the British Empire's command when the whole world is opened up to players.'''

'''And you only get Ontario. The western areas are too loose and not enough people for a player. Those will be British direct ruled. You're still quite large, though. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It'''

New Spain: The governate of New Spain begins mobilizing and training massive amounts of military forces. Asks the governates of Cuba and New Granada to meet with him secretly, to discuss a few things. Inspired by the American Revolutionary War, they secretly discuss independence from Spain. New Spain asks for the allegiance should such a event occur. Expansion northward ~100 miles into OTL Oregon territory occurs.


 * RNG 1-6 YES, 7-10 NO: New Granada, 3, YES, Cuba, 6, YES


 * New Granada and Cuba agree.


 * Georgia Diplomacy: We would support New Spain seceding from the Spanish Empire, and will provide your military with arms. We ask eventually though to purchase OTL Florida for $10.5 million.
 * North Carolina: We also will support new Spain. We Propose an offer to Georgia, splitting the price for Florida 50/50 for half of Florida.
 * Georgia Diplomacy: We politely decline, but offer to allow you to construct a base in the Keys region.
 * North Carolina: North Carolina will accept this counteroffer.

Mississippi: With the addition of Tennessee, we rename the nation The Confederate Republics of America (CRA). The Declaration of Confederation is accepted, and finalized by both Mississippi and Tennessee. The "states" will be called Republics, a throwback to the time when each state was independent and sovereign. Mississippi decides to create another Republic, the Republic of Alabama (OTL Alabama). The military is improved, as President Andrew Jackson decides to expand into the Louisiana Territory. Two new regions are declared, the State of Arkansas, and the State of Missouri. (States are like territories OTL, Republics are like states.) New York: Unites with Vermont, and takes the name Union of America (UA), and later New Hampshire joins. Offers the FSA and the CRA an alliance. begins to work on making the military well better armed, and to create a healthy economic sphere.
 * Mississippian Diplomacy: We propose an alliance with Virginia.
 * Virginia: Yes
 * Mississippian Diplomacy: We ask to buy all of the land south of Mississippi/Alabama from Spain for $7,500,000. (Louisiana Purchase OTL was $15,000,000, so it a generous offer)
 * Spain: No
 * Mississippian Diplomacy: We offer to Virginia and Kentucky to join the CRA as the Republic of Virginia and the Republic of Kentucky.
 * Virginia: Yes
 * Georgia Diplomacy: We apologize for our threats, there was a misunderstanding in our government. We offer an alliance to your nation.
 * Georgia: Asks for an alliance with the UA.
 * UA: accepts

1818
' The Republic of Louisiana sends an envoy to the CRA, asking for an alliance and trade deal. '

' The Confederation of Oklahoma is formed in the former Louisiana Territory, with its population being mostly Native American. However, due to trading with the British, it is armed with modern weaponry and currently building its own infrastructure. '

' Maine joins the American Union. '


 * The Confederate Republics of America: President Andrew Jackson welcomes the Republics of Virginia and Kentucky into the CRA, and he orders the expansion of the States of Arkansas and Missouri. Enraged by the deaths of some settlers in the expansion, he takes the lead of the military and begins a minor war on the Indians of the Louisiana Territory. Following a grand victory, the States of Arkansas and Missouri grow even more! Slavery and plantations help the economy. We ask to buy parts of the Floridian panhandle for $7.5 million.
 * North Carolina: After the unification of the Carolinas. Congress decides to change the name of the nation to The Carolinian Republic. Representatives from the the former South Carolina lands are admitted as members of congress. Elections are held and John Branch of Halifax is elected President with John Geddes of Charleston as his Vice President. Forts are built on the borders of South Carolina and roads are built as well to connect it with the North. The military is solidified into three parts: A standing army, local militias for national defense and a standing navy.
 * Georgia: The government again offers to purchase Florida for 15 million dollars . More forts are constructed to defend the borders.
 * I'm sorry, but none of you guys has that kind of money. You guys just collapsed, the only one who really could purchase anything right now is, well, no one. Wait til 1820 then start buying.
 * I can Mafia (talk)
 * ​FSA: Continues to become pro-British, development continues.
 * New England: Two thousand soldiers are drafted from different states. Slavery is abolished, and a president is to be elected by 1820.
 * AU: Three thousand men are drafted. Guns continue to be produced, and work begins on a navy. economic relations continue to be open.
 * 'British Colonial Administration We move troops to the border with the former USA.

1819
' Spanish forces arrive in New Spain, and they begin trying to take control of the colony, leading to some resistance and bitter fighting. Eventually resulting in the Alamo Massacre, in which a small Mexican militia is slaughtered by a much larger Spanish force. '

' The people of New England and the American Union begin cries for greater unity. '

' With greater problems in Louisiana due to fear of the new nation of Oklahoma, Louisiana votes to unite with Georgia, seeing the CRA as too big to suit Louisiana's interests. '

' Georgia's crop yields are very large this year, giving them a large surplus to sell, most of it being cotton and tobacco. '

' The Cotton Gin is invented in the Carolinas, increasing cotton output tenfold. '


 * Carolinian Republic: The economy explodes with the invention of the cotton gin. The government keeps a wrap on its design. The nation soon becomes a leading exporter of cotton. The military is expanded and equipped with upgraded weaponry. The government condemns Spain's actions in Mexico and their colonies. They call for negotiations between Spain and New Spain for an end to hostilities.
 * FSA: Troops are placed along the border for defensive tactics only, Buildup continues.
 * New Spain: Forces are rasied from all corners of the country, named the Nuevo Pueri, in order to fight off Spain. They ask New Granada and Cuba for troops, and Cuba to join them in there fight for independence as a member of New Spain. No land will be sold at this time, as we are fighting for independence. 
 * Georgia Diplomacy: We are not taking over Florida, we are removing the Spanish. We also send you 10,000 muskets and 12 cannons.

''Argentina is the Provinces of Rio de Plata, thus you cannot expand there. G greg e (talk)''
 * ​Following upon their previous agreement, New Granada declares independence as Gran Colombia, and we offer New Spain an alliance. Cuba revolts and forms the Caribbean Confederation, also allying with New Spain.
 * Brazil: Expands south into unclaimed Argentina (or is it part of France or something?). Asks for Portugal to send troops and a military advisor to improve the colonial military.
 * Mod: Portugal sends troops and a military advisor to improve your colonial military

Thanks for clearing that up.
 * Georgia: We send 10,000 muskets and 12 cannons to the rebels in New Spain. With Louisiana joining Georgia, there is a vote to name the nation American Federation. A 5000-man militia with 100 cavalrymen, and eight cannons attack the Spanish in Florida.
 * The Confederate Republics of America: President Andrew Jackson, in the last year of his first term, begins to see if Louisiana would be more willing to join the CRA. We show our more extensive trade relations, and alliance network. We also begin settling Oklahoma, and the Indians welcome us since we provide them much desired tobacco and cotton. We talk of vassalization. Arkansas and Missouri grow even more. Slavery and plantations help the economy. We help the New Spaniards.
 * The CRA seeks an alliance with: France, UK, Gran Colombia

1820
' WE'RE GOING GLOBAL!!!!!!! '

' The Prussians sign an alliance with Hannover. '

 The Ottomans sign an alliance with Persia .

' Tobacco and Cotton sales more than double with the discovery of new markets in Africa, giving the CRA, Georgia and Louisiana a large surplus of income. '

' The Zulu tribes organize themselves into the Zulu Empire, and Zulu patriotism is at its peak. '

Spain begins fighting with the rebels in Nuevo Espana fiercely, but slowly is forced from OTL United States and south of the Rio Grande. Spanish forces also attack Gran Colombia, taking some coastal towns but unable to control the interior.

New England finally complies with its people's wishes and joins the American Union.

Gran Colombia accepts the alliance offer of the CRA.

Prussia: Following the alliance with Hannover we begin to influence their populace to come into Union to form a Greater Germany, We also begin to influence Bavaria and ask for trade with them in order to begin the formation of a Greater German economy. We also increase our military size to 500,000 active troops with another 1,000,000 in reserve to be called up in case of a major war. We begin the construction of a fleet to sail and establish a possible colony in the Indonesian Islands. mining for resources continues to go up as we begin an infrastructural campaign to make travel across Prussia much faster and easier

FSA: We unite with the Federation of Ohio.

France: Development is given a large boost and people begin to enlist in the french armed forces.

British Empire: Troops move into Zululand, and we invade Florida, (Does this game have an algorithm?). We commission several more ships-of-the-line. We offer an alliance with Prussia. British Privateers prey on American shipping. The Slave Trade abolition movement grows in strength. We colonize the rest of OTL Canada, and give the country that has claimed some of it one year to evacuate, or we will invade that section.


 * Prussia D: We accept alliance and request large scale trade.
 * British D: Agreed.

We border Zululand, and why can't I invade Florida?

You're near them, you don't border them.

​Austrian Empire: An alliance is sent to Bavaria and the Kingdom of North Italy. The Empire starts influencing nearby states in Germany and Italy. Cartographer Jan Haber asks the Emperor for funding for an expedition into the Southern continent  of Africa. The expedition lands around OTL Western Sahara and forms a small colony that is called Jan's Land. The Confederate Republics of America''' : President Andrew Jackson is elected for a second term, his party barely beating the Republicans, who favor more freedom for the republics and an even weaker confederacy. We show our more extensive trade relations, and alliance network to the Indians of Oklahoma. We also settle Oklahoma, and the Indians welcome us since we provide them much desired tobacco and cotton. We vassalize them. Arkansas and Missouri grow even more. Slavery and plantations help the economy. We help the New Spaniards, but also fight to take the coast south of Oklahoma, west of Louisiana for our own, if the New Spaniards are OK with it. Bavaria: Bavaria offers an alliance to UK and promises that if the UK agrees, no war attacks will be launched on either end. Bavaria: Starts modernizing their army and creating mandatory military service for at least two years.
 * Bavarian Diplomacy: We agree to ally.
 * Ottoman Empire: We begin modernizing the military and building up the economy, and the Emperor issues a statement saying that the Ottomans will not start any wars or conflicts, and asks the nations of Europe for trade deals. We send settlers to Madagascar. We expand into Africa.
 * British Diplomacy: We agree to the alliance.

Persia: Starts to build up defenses
 * British D: Offers a military alliance.

1821
' The FSA unites with the American Union, leaving them in need of a name decision. '

' The American Federation, since sending troops into Florida two years ago, successfully seizes some land to connect Georgia with Louisiana, while leaving the majority of Florida to Britain. '

' The CRA and Oklahoma begin growing much closer. '

' Carolina joins the American Federation. '

' New Spain wins a climactic battle against the Spanish outside Mexico City, driving the Spaniards from North America and into the jungles of Central America. '

' Gran Colombia loses more land to Spanish forces, but still manages to put up a fight. '

' The Louisianans of Louisiana Territory, fearful of an aggressive Britain, ask to join the CRA, seeing it as a safe alternative. '
 * Ottoman Empire: We build our military and economy as well as start industrializing, with weapons factories as well as other factories being built. The Emperor agrees to appoint a new Council, with one representative from each ethnic group, and although this Peoples Council doesn't have very much power, it will largely influence the Emperor and his future choices. Madagascar colony expands. We declare war on Oman and invade, and we ladn troops in there African colony. The Ottomans begin construction of a canal in Suez. We expand into Africa.
 * Persian D: Offers an alliance.
 * Ottoman Diplomacy: We accept.
 * Persia: We build our military and economy and start industrializing, with particular emphasis placed on weapon manufacture. Roads are built across the nation.  Continues to increase the size of the army.

Persia: Creates a major military base in Tehran..
 * France: Continues to develop.
 * Persia: Offers an alliance, provided they join up with the Ottoman Empire as well
 * France: We decline, however wish to sign an NAP.
 * Prussia: We colonize West Africa setting up a military colony with a civilian populace of about 8000. The Prussian navy manages to supply them very well and works on expanding the colony over the next few years. More talks of other colonies are being brought up - especially in Indonesia. Prussia begins development of the navy a bit more in an attempt to secure its trading passageways more thoroughly. We offer unification with the weak Bavaria. (RNG 1-4 yes 5 unsued 6-10 no 3 yes. Bavaria agrees to unite with Prussia.) Prussia continues to influence Hannover 'heavily with our monarch coming into close relations with their own leader. We immediately move troops into Bavaria following the unification and begin large scale integration projects in order to make them more Prussian and Unified Germany oriented. We continue Industrialization. We send military scout ships to the uncolonized North Africa to survey the area for colonization. We officially stake our claim to the area. We use our influence in Hannover to establish 10,000 troops from Hannover loyal to Prussia on the border with Hannover.'''
 * Algeria: We begin expansion down into the central part of North Africa. We begin economic improvement and establish a small military base for the Prussians in Tunis Harbor. Local troops are sent to trade tactics with Prussian military commanders numbering around 2000 to increase at a later date.
 * Persia: Offers alliance to Prussia.
 * Prussian D: We make an offer to the United Provinces for a trade agreement. We also ask the Kingdom of Algeria in North Africa if they wish to become a protectorate/Vassal of the Kingdom of Prussia
 * MOD: Dutch Diplomacy: We accept.
 * MOD Algeria: We accept.
 * American Union: A rising power.. we ask for trade relations with the old world. asks for an alliance with the CRA. Military and economy are improved.
 * Prussia D: We accept a trade agreement with the American Union
 * Austrian Empire: In the light of the new shown expansionism of Prussia an alliance is sent to France to form an alliance to keep the Prussians at bay. Kingdom of Naples is given an offer of vassalization to join the Austrian Empire (RNG 1-4 yes 5 unsued 6-10 no answer: 7 no. Just FYI - all RNG's are done by Mods.. no exceptions). Naples accepts the offer and troops are sent into the newly claimed territory and cultural integration is started. Industrialization is started in Austria.
 * Hannover: The Kingdom of Hannover enjoys the close relationship with Prussia, holds off joining Prussia for now.  Meanwhile, the Kingdom of Hannover preps the military to make it a more offensive military. with plans to take over Denmark.
 * Prussia D: We re-iterate - any offensive action on Denmark will result in Hannover's full annexation by Prussia... do not invade them or face the consequences.
 * Hannover D: We will hold off action against Denmark, only if we are allowed to invade the Netherlands.
 * Prussia Dip: You have a population of less than 300,000 and a small military. Any action will most likely end in your failure and probable destruction by the United Provinces.

Prussia D: We accept the alliance offer.

Persia: Begins mobilizing troops for possible military attacks.

Portugal: We attempt to expand our African colonial borders to inside Africa. Also, we enforce colonial conscription, two years service, to fight natives if things get rough. Portugal: We decide to invade Oman behind schedule, so they have their military unprepared. The port of Dar Es Salaam is used because the Omani military can't get there quick enough. The Confederate Republics of America: President Andrew Jackson, during his second term, continues to vassalize Oklahoma, with lots of Americans settling there. We integrate Louisiana into the Confederacy, and Jackson orders a massive survey of all the land in it. He begins asking cartographers to make maps of potential new states, and proposes one idea to Congress. It is under debate. (Map to be made) Slavery and plantations help the economy. We help the New Spaniards, but also fight to take the coast south of Oklahoma, west of Louisiana for our own, if the New Spaniards are OK with it. Naples and Sicily: We begin manufacturing weapons and creating several line infantry units. We ask Spain for a trade agreement and an alliance.
 * Persia: Offers an alliance to Portugal.
 * Portugal: We accept the alliance, as Persia's location guarantees protection of Mozambique if Oman decides to attack.
 * Persia: Sends troops to Portugal, the Ottoman Empire and Prussia for an intended attack on Hanover.
 * Portugal: Starts extra mobilization in Mozambique, in a preparation to seize Omani African lands for the Portuguese realm.
 * Persia: Trains the troops to get ready for the invasion.
 * Portugal: In the last prerequisite for an invasion planned in 1822, Portuguese soldiers kidnap Omani citizens straying across the border into Mozambique.
 * Persia: Offers to try the immigrants in Persia, finding them guilty. They are all detained in a Tehran prison.
 * Portugal: In a colonial race against my larger rival Spain, Brazil is ordered to send more colonists to Tierra del Fuego, in exchange for improved infrastructure in Brazil's major cities.
 * Persia: Sends troops by ship to Portugal to hide them for an attack on Hannover.
 * Portugal: As the last major action before 1822, Portugal decides to colonize 200 miles north of Tierra del Fuego to gain a larger Portuguese-Brazilian foothold in Argentina/Chile. (my last move tonight)
 * Persia: Helps Portugal improve their national economy by manufacturing weapons.
 * American Federation: We offer a military alliance with any nation.
 * British Empire: Begins to build up the military. We ask Persia for an alliance.
 * Persian D: We accept.
 * Portugal: Also, while the Omani soldiers quickly rush toward Dar Es Salaam, Portugal invades the border. War has officially begun.
 * ​The CRA offers the American Federation to join as the Republics of Carolina and Louisiana. (To Dae- This is the arrangement Local and I had worked out: We are one nation, but each person controls their own states/republics. Overall presidency changes every four years depending on election results. i e, President from Georgia, you control Federal Government.)

Persia: SECRET: We send many groups of soldiers to Spain to pillage their villages for supplies and to weaken their economy. Many of the Spanish peasants are detained and enslaved by the Persian army.

Portugal: The news quickly spreads to Spain's most bitter rival, Portugal, and we take the opportunity to invade Galicia and the northern coast (Greater Basque) to gain a border with France. Southern Spain resists, however...

Persia: Orders Portugal to send troops to Southern Spain to detain the derelicts, while Persian soldiers bomb Madrid.

'''All right guys, attacking Spain is implausible and everything you're doing has to be under one thing. So everything you do to Portugal must be under one sign bolded "Portugal." Same goes for Persia, also as for implausibility. The Pope decreed the separation of the two countries and they won't officially go to war with each other.. wouldn't happen. Also, as powerful as Persia is.. it has no way of getting its troops to Europe'''.

Persia: Sends its soldiers to Oman to stage a raid of its oil wells.
 * Returns to Persia with an extensive amount of oil. Begins using oil as an economic lever to boost the economy.

China: China solidifies its control over its territories. The Emperor hearing of the events in the Americas realizes the empire needs to modernize. The Emperor asks European nations to send advisors to help modernize the country and allow observers from China to visit said nations. A new agricultural initiative is set into place to make sure that every person in the empire is fed.

1822
''' The British have moved into Zululand to expand their South African Colony. '''

''' A small Prussian Colony is founded in West Africa. '''

''' New Spain continues buildups and development. '''

''' The Chinese begin to look to the Europeans for guidance and possible modernization. '''

Prussia: We begin more development of the countries infrastructure and large amounts of supplies are sent to the New West African Colony along with 5000 troops to facilitate growth of the Colony. Using out Client/Vassal state of Algeria we have continually moved into northern Africa. Two More Colony fleets are sent out another to North Western Africa, and Another to the Indonesian islands to begin construction of another Colony. '''We completely annex the vastly inferior Hannover and incorporate them into the Kingdom to prevent them from attacking someone. Their own Prussian leaning troops lead to the capture. Some small resistance is expected to remain. '''The military begins construction of artillery forts along the Austrian Border. Persia: We continue to develop our nation to become more industrious. We place emphasis on military enlistment and continue to improve the infrastructure of the nation. Offers to buy part of the Prussian territory in Algeria for $5,000,000.
 * Algeria: Algerians continue securing more land for the Prussians aiming at giving them a new grouping of colonies to prevent Algeria from being turned into a colony. More soldiers are sent to study in Prussian schools while the current ones have returned and begin a Prussian influence on the Algerian population.

Naples and Sicily: We continue to upgrade the military, issuing standard weapons and uniforms. We build Indiamen to go east and expand trade. A fleet with settlers and soldiers set out to colonise OTL Angola. 'Diplomacy': We once again ask His Most Catholic Majesty of Spain, our own King Ferdinand's dear brother, for an alliance and trade agreement.

Brazil: declares independence. Military is increased to 2.3 million.

'''Highly implausible. Brazil didn't have the ability to have that many men at arms during this time period... please research your history Feudalplague (talk) 02:09, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''

Persia: We start to develop our national security and continue to improve the industry in the nation. Emphasis is placed on oil wells and fossil fuels become a priority.

CRA: Early in the year, Oklahoma is vassalized and annexed into the CRA. This is after years of great relations between the people of Louisiana (and by extension Oklahoma), and the CRA. Andrew Jackson continues to pursue his options in the American Federation, and the Federation decides to join the CRA as the Republic of Carolina, the Republic of Georgia and the Republic of Louisiana. The surveyors and cartographers reach a conclusion about the new map of the CRA, and it includes the states of Minnesota, Dakota, Montana, Kansas, Oklahoma. The Republics are Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky, Carolina, Georgia, and Louisiana. Vassalization of the Caribbean Confederation and Gran Colombia begins. We point out the great deal of autonomy, as well as out acceptance of multi-culturalism. We point out our loosely organized system of government is very similar to theirs.


 * The CRA asks New Spain and the UK if we may begin negotiations for land formerly held by those two great nations. (Oregon/Washington, Texas from Spain; Michigan/Illinois, Florida, from the UK)


 * American Federation Diplomacy: We agree to join in a union with the CRA as the American Federation, but refuse to allow our nation to be divided.

Northern Italy: National Guards are placed in the national border. Industry is starting to be improved, with Turin being the main center of the Improvement program.


 * Neapolitan Diplomacy: We ask for an alliance.


 * North Italian Diplomacy: We accept the request.

UK: We invade Zululand (Algo pending)

China: China continues with its agricultural program to feed its inhabitants. '''The Emperor requests help from either European nations or American nations in help modernizing the country. We wish to send and receive advisors to said helping nation/nations. In return, we will set up trade with them. '''

Prussia D: We will provide assistance to you in exchange for trade.

China D: We accept

Portugal: We declare a full scale war on Oman, despite Mozambican draft evaders (which we caught). We also ask for an alliance with Prussia.

Gran Colombia: The military is built up. While this, the federation begins pleading their government to not let itself fall under American influence, nor under influence of New Spain. While this, settlers are sent to the amazons to found small cities such as San Juan del Rio Grande.

Persia: Decides to assist Portugal in the war against Oman. Intends to help Portugal overthrow the government and establish a joint Portuguese-Persian democracy.

Portugal: Spain is offered a deal in South America. We will give Paraguay and half of Mato Grosso in exchange for a coastline to connect Brazil with uncolonized Argentina.

'''Persia and Portugal.. everything you do needs to be under ONE POST this will be the last time I tell you. Feudalplague (talk) 19:44, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''

Ottoman Empire: We modernize and work on our military and industry. We offer Germany an alliance. Also, we accept the Swiss alliance offer. We see the potential of New Spain, and we offer a trade deal and send weapons and money to help them. We expand our madagascar colony. We take a majority of the omani african colony.

New Spain: Continues to draft forces to drive out the Spanish. Begins to create provincial governments. New Spain continues to develop trade. Forces continue to drive out Spanish forces.

1823
' The New Spanish finally defeat the remaining Spanish army in their territory, and Spain asks to enter negotiations with the New Spanish, also suggesting a new name for the new nation, so as to make a lasting peace treaty. The Caribbean Confederation succeeds in expelling the Spanish as well, allowing the Caribbean government to join in on these peace talks. The Caribbean Confederation government also strengthens its power, re-organizing into the United States of the Caribbean (USC). '

' Spanish forces take the north half of Colombia, cutting them off from the Caribbean and Panama. Panama, fearing its takeover by Spain once more, declares its independence as the Republic of Panama, which immediately joins the Caribbean Confederation. '

' The recently unified German state enters an economic boom and Hannoverians, wishing more freedom from the prying eyes of the Reich, move to the colonies, expanding them with an expansion bonus. '

' The state south of the Ottomans asks to join the Ottoman Empire. '

' Japan experiences a baby boom. '

Prussia/German Empire: Out of the Leading state of Prussia and its annexations the Empire of Germany is formed and begins nationalization of all three territories into a single Unified State. Hannover and Munich, however, remain provincial capitals - Hannover and Bavaria respectively as does Konigsberg for Prussia. However, Brandenburg/Berlin is named the capital of the Empire. With Colonial expansion in West Africa thanks to Hannover quite the surprise many people from Prussia proper are sent with Bavarians as well to the North West African Colony as well as the Indonesian Colony. The West African colony is named Arguin, while the Northwestern colony is named Groß Friedrichsburg. The colony in Indonesia is simply named Guinea. A small group of colonists - mostly people recruited as failed farmers or miners - are sent to the Northwestern Coast of Africa establishing a small colonial outpost in OTL Mauritania. The population reaches 200 civilian colonists as well as about 300 soldiers to defend them from natives with a constructed wall with some cannon emplacements. Taking a hint from the British Empires' previous rebellion in their thirteen colonies, a colonial council is created to hear the voice of the colonies of the German empire and to prevent the total exploitation of the colonies by an incompetent ruler in the future. The Monarch Frederick William III rules as the monarch of the new Germany.


 * China Diplomacy: The Emperor accepts the German's offer, and sends a trade fleet to Germany and picks up and drops off advisors.
 * Algeria: The Expansion into the Desert links up with the large Saharan trade routes bringing in a large scale gold trade. Algerians begin to think more like Germans due to the lack of racial issues the Germans seem to have with them as well as the Algerian troops being trained in German military schools.

Portugal: We colonize an area called "Mahajanga" in northern Madagascar, and the Omani war continues.

New Spain: Celebrates their independence! Sends aid to the Republic of Panama. Province lines will be drawn up over the next year and plan to consists of Florida, Tejas, California, Baja California, Sonora, Baja Sonora, Mexico, Guadalajara, Deseret, Santa Fe, Alto California, Monterrey, Yucatan, Guatemala, and some others. New Spain, begins considering new names for the nation.

China: With help from German advisors the empire starts to modernize. German military advisors start to inspect the army and naval forces. Advisors from different walks of modern society including industry, military, economy, etc. meet with the Emperor and his ministers to discuss modernization points and areas for improvement. In return for their help, China starts a continuous stream of trade ships to the German Empire laden with rice, tea, silk, spices and gunpowder. A particularly popular item for the German people are sets of pottery from Chinese craftsmen.

Colombia: The Republic movement is protected from the crisis as many rebellious leaders seek refuge in Cali where they launch the biggest and most successful plan in the last year, in which Bolivar successfully expels the Spanish from Santa Fe de Bogota and forcing them to withdraw to the extreme north of the country, However the victory is far, and New Spain is ask for aid, and panama is asked to rejoin the nation, as Spain would not give up on them,Caring not if they are or not with the Caribbeans. Francisco de Paula Santander expels the Spanish from Santander and securing Cucuta taken and the Flag of Colombia is Raised, and the Words Oh Endless glory, Oh Unperishing Joy!, the Motto of the Great Nation.

Persia: Continues to co-operate the democratic government in Oman to appease the angered residents. Continues to increase oil production. Decides to build more factories around the country to increase industry even further. Military service is now made mandatory for all residents for at least five years. Starts to raise the prices of groceries and general goods and services.

'''An invasion of Spain by the Persians or Portuguese is implausible, period.. stop it.'''

Naples and Sicily: The military upgrading is finished. We begin to build sloops and third rates for our navy. The colonists and soldiers sent to OTL Angola reach their destination and establish the settlement of San Gennaro.


 * Spanish D: Accepts alliance and trade agreement.

*Diplomacy: The Indiamen reach China and ask for a trade agreement. We ask Spain for an alliance and trade agreement again, and if Portugal does decide to make good on their pointless threats, we shall be there to aid in pacifying them.

Chinese Diplomacy: The Emperor agree to a trade agreement with Naples. *'''Neapolitan Diplomacy: 'I'm not India, I'm Naples. An Indiaman is a trade ship. So Naples is asking for trade.'

My bad

It's all K.


 * Ottoman Empire: We work on our military ands economy and expand into Africa. We also expand our Hawaii colony and establish a colony in Australia. We modernize and indsutrialize as well.

Russian Empire: Builds numerous factories, and researches better industrial techniques, taking hints from Britain. Uses some of said factories to improve quality of military, arming the soldiers with higher quality weapons. Begins to build up and outfit a more competent navy, improving the Admiralty Shipyard in specific with more supplies and space. Sends envoys to request greater trade with China, for, "We growing nations must work together, so mutual greatness may be attained.". Sends requests for alliance and trade agreement with Germany and Naples to, "Mutually benefit and strengthen these neighbor nations, that they may become greater and more prosperous.". Also begins to work on building influence on Sweden-Norway with a trade agreement and an alliance. Also sends an Alliance request and trade agreement to Spain and Japan. Sends out weapons, supplies and military units to Alaskan Colonies and the Three Russian forts in Hawaii. Government gains control of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and gives it greater funding, inviting scientists from around the world to Saint Petersburg to enjoy the funding. Major work is done on an algorithm machine and research in chemistry. Government gains control of the Russian-American company and all holdings, gaining all profits from Alaskan fur trade previously earned by the company.


 * Neapolitan D: King Ferdinand accepts the offer of an alliance.
 * Persian D: Offers a trade of oil to Russia.
 * Russian D: Accepts offer.
 * Spanish D: Accepts offer.
 * Chinese Diplomacy:The Emperor accepts Russia's offer for greater trade. We start sending trade caravans over the border.
 * Japanese D: Accepts offer.
 * German Dip: We accept.

Spain:We move troops to the border with Portugal. We send more troops to the South American colonies. We begin building factories.
 * Russian D: Proposes advanced trade networks through Japan, Russia, Spain and Naples.
 * Neapolitan D: Agrees.
 * Spanish D: Agrees.
 * Japanese D: Agrees.

Japan:Increases power of central government and improves industry. Also works on modernizing military. Sends alliance and trade agreement to Naples and Spain. France: Continues development.
 * Spanish D: Accepts alliance and trade agreement.
 * Neapolitan D: We accept the offers of trade and military alliance.

1824
''' Russian expansionism/colonialism continues. Regardless of the economic situation of Russia much food does not reach the general populace due to corrupt lords hoarding food for themselves, or just failed crops in certain areas due to bad conditions.'''

'''Mod: The spelling was off so the event was edited to be a little less weird looking. not sure how the spelling thing happened Feudalplague (talk) 06:57, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''

'''Thank you! That was driving me crazy. Eronoc (talk) 06:59, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''

'''German Colonies continue expansion. However, racial tension between Algerians and Germans regardless of the influence has cropped up as many see Germany as utilizing Algeria as a colony and not a vassal state. However, the leadership as well as many civilian traders are seeing massive profits from the venture.. the country is dividing without further German action'''

America remains relatively stable as war has died down.

''I never sold Florida to anyone. While they may have invaded...the citizens are still citizens of New Spain and loyal to Nueva Spain, so all they are going to get are uprisings, especially Britain. G greg e (talk)''

''Don't underestimate the placebo effect, Greg. Now that we have destroyed the USA, no nation has successfully rebelled from the British Mafia (talk)''

''They are still are not British...expect a rebellion there. G greg e (talk)''

Russian Empire:  Sends 400 colonists, 300 troops, and supplies to OTL Gabon, to found the settlement of Novyisochi. Also sends more troops, settlers, and supplies to strengthen Alaska. Experiences an economic boom on account of the new East-West Free Trade Agreement with Japan, Spain and Naples, giving larger and cheaper quantities of rice, silk, gold, silver, sugar cane, slaves, which are given the rank of serfs, wine, textiles and much more, and money from exporting furs, lumber and more with no tariff to those countries. Uses the new-found money to bolster industry and science. From the Russian Academy of Sciences, aluminum and its uses are discovered, and soon, the bauxite deposits in the Urals are being mined, and the aluminum is being turned into useful things, and the secrets shared with Japan, Spain and Naples, but jealously guarded from others. Work on the Algorithm Machine continues and is modified, to utilize this new material. Tsar forces nobles to ration food to citizens in their demesne, sending out men to go from demesne to demesne, making sure food is distributed. Continues influencing Sweden-Norway with trade and diplomacy, planning to build educational buildings near the borders.

'''Russia in no way had any interests in Africa or anything other than North America and even that was light. Russia focused a ot on its internals, it had no need to expand and hence didn't have people willing to go anywhere.'''

'''However, in this TL, Russia is now part of an international trading organisation. Wouldn't that expand its horizens a bit? This is alternate history.'''
 * China Diplomacy: China asks to join the East-West Free Trade Organization
 * Russian D: Put an application on the page, I don't control the Organisation myself.

Qubec: We ask that Napoleon to come as Quebec's official monarch kind of like Canada. We send colonists to part of the cape.

Germany: Germany begins to work with Algerians helping them see long term benefits of being a German client/vassal. More colonists are sent to the colonies in Northwestern and Western Africa while another fleet bringing supplies and another 1000 colonists arrived in Indonesia expanding the colony. Trade with China has prompted a huge economic increase as well as Germany being the sole European provider of Chinese finery called "Fine China" The dishes grow very popular with nobles across Europe and Germany agrees to allow sale of it for a steep price. Military units do firing drills near the Austrian border including using the artillery forts for cannon support. The cannon fire in some cases crosses the border into Austria frightening many of their civilians. The Naval Fleet expands due to the patronage of the new War Minister adding many ships such as Second Rates and two First Rates officially gathering the power only long time Colonial powers have enjoyed. '''We begin to influence Austria's Northern areas attempting to have civilian allies if conflict ever occurs. '''German Population in its colonies reaches 4500. A German Fleet made up of a one First rate, two Second Rates and four Fifth Rate Ships are deployed to Asia utilizing the Colony and its active port to turn the Minor Colony into a Major naval base for Germany.

'''Nueva Españ a: Begins to raise a fleet.  We look to sell of the Rights to the Philippines to the highest bidder. However, we also look to reclaim Florida which was forcibly taken by the British and other nations, during our war of independence with Spain. '''The citizens there are Nueva Spaniards, and not loyal to any other nation. Discussion of a railway begins. Sends small amounts of secret aid to Colombia.

'''You can't control other nations regardless of the trade organization or not. Feudalplague (talk) 23:59, July 25, 2013 (UTC)'''
 * German Imperial Diplomacy: Germany extends our utmost greetings to the nation of New Spain as well as congratulations in winning its War of Independence. We offer to buy the Philippines.
 * Nueva Spain Diplomacy: We wish to have a dollar amount/idea of what you're offering in exchange for the Philippines.
 * German D: We offer 1.5 million marks worth in gold.
 * China D:  The Emperor offers two million and a trade agreement for the Philippines.
 * German D: We offer four million in gold as well as a trade agreement for top notch German weapons
 * Ottoman Empire: We offer ten million in gold and offer you to still maintain military bases in the Philippines
 * Germany D: 12 million in gold as well as state of the art weaponry to prevent any other powers from being able to pick on your thoroughly
 * New Spain D: A decision will be announced next turn, please continue to make offers though.

We are discussing it on our page.

'''It must fall under the sovereignty of a single nation. Feudalplague (talk) 00:12, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''

'''That's fine. We'll split the land once we buy it. That's allowed, right? We're thinking of making the capital of the Organisation there, since we can't decide who should have it. Eronoc (talk) 00:15, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''

'''If you buy it.. there are other offers haha Feudalplague (talk) 00:16, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''

Naples and Sicily: We organize the Knights of St. John into elite military units. We have an economics boom from the East-West Free Trade Agreement. We send more supplies to the San Geranno African colony and make pacts with the native tribes. We also send supplies to the Russian colony in Africa.

China: China continues to modernize. Guns and artillery are starting to be researched and prototyped for distribution to the military. Westernized naval vessels are also looked into. '''We request Germany to sell a naval vessel of theirs as well as some guns and artillery for models of Chinese versions. '''The Emperor builds The Imperial Science Institute in Peking in order to develop new technologies and weapons.

Spain: Spain continues to improve economy with help of East West Free Trade Organization. Spain also continues to mine for silver and gold. Begins to rebuild military after great loss during the war. Sends embassies to Neuva Españ a.

Persia: Continues to improve economy with heavy emphasis still placed on oil welling. Starts mining for precious ores to additionally boost the economy. Offers to help the Ottoman Empire fight off any potential threats, as well as offering to create a trans-territory wagon railway.

Brazil: declares independence military is increased to 300,000.

 Japan:  The Emperor seizes power from the Tokugawa Shogunate, and allows open relations with the rest of the world. Requests firearms from fellow members of the East-West Free Trade Organization and begins more intense training of military to improve combat skills. Begins focusing on improving navy.

'''The Emperor had no way of doing that.. it was spurred by the need of Japan to westernize following Japan's forced integration into the global economy by the treaty the US made them sign.. not plausible. Limited trade is still allowed but you can't do that sort of thing yet Feudalplague (talk) 02:58, July 26, 2013 (UTC)''' Colombia: We ask Spain for Independence and the end of the war, and their aid along with Mexican aid to retake the territories of Colombia that joined the Caribbean federation. While this, the troops hope to get an armistice with Spain.
 * Russian D: Sends shipments of firearms.

'''Why did Colombia lose Northern Colombia? If it was Panama which is the isthmus? The rest is faithful Colombian territory. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:22, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''

'''no that went with Panama sine. '''

Portugal:  We improve the economy.

AU: Continues to buldup the military, and estbalish economic relATIONS with nations in europe. Ottoman Empire: We move all Australian settlers to the Hawaii colony, giving up any claim on Australia and instead focusing on Hawaii. The Sultan orders more settlers to Hawaii, although the main island is nearly settled mostly by the Ottomans. The military is built up and we modernize and indstrualize. Also the Ottoman Navy establishes several bases in the Hawaiin Colony and begins building industry and raod across the colony. Ottoman forces continue to expand in Africa.
 * British Diplomacy: Offer to sell Florida to the AU. However, we will retain a Naval Base in Florida, to thwart any attempt by the Nuevo Spanish to reclaim Florida. We also offer to sell them Ohio County.

'''It takes more than a year to fully populate something like that. if it took the British 50 years to settle the Eastern Seaboard successfully with enough people for it to be viable itll take you at least 10 or 20 to be majority in Hawaii especially since alot of Europeans lived here during this time period'''

'''ok its hawaii, its way smaller than the eastern seaboard, and its been almost 5 years. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 18:19, July 26, 2013 (UTC)'''