Talk:Greater Europe (Map Game)

So yeah. We need to make an algorithm. The person who makes the most realistic algorithm(without stability thingy), will receive a Mod and Map-Maker if they wish. I know it's not much, but that's all I could really offer.

Doctor261 18:36, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm calling implausibility already. A Pact of Steel in 1935 is impossible. The Italians and the Germans did not like each other at that point. It was the Italians that prevented Hitler from achieving Anschluss in 1934. Azecreth 19:18, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. I see. Well. We're voiding Pact of Steel for now then.

Doctor261 19:20, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

dont forget that at this time the US owns the Philippines. octiman10 22:32, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Doctor, I'm retconning everything involving Tunisia. The reason for this is that in the 1930's Tunisia was a French protectorate, and by invading them, you declared war on France. I assume you don't want that, so I'm removing it. As well as the US alliance with Great Britain, since isolationism is still strong in America. I did keep the US alliance with Mexico, since they have strong ties and are next to each other, but the American annexation of all those Mexican states for no reason has been rmeoved. The Mexican government would never have agred to a plebicite, and all those states would not have joined the USA Azecreth 21:39, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

I will propose the algorithm that I formulated for Fractured America(this was my algorithm, based off of Principia Moderni and another proposition that was made in Fractured america, aka algorithm 3)

algorithm proposal
Location

Location goes by nearest military base:
 * at the location of the war or border invasion: 5
 * next to the location of the war: 4
 * close to the location of the war: 3
 * far from location of the war: 2
 * other side of the world: 1

Tactical Advantage

 * attacker's advantage: 1
 * knowledge of landscape: 2
 * this counts if: Defender has had territory for 20+years OR Attacker has owned territory attacked within the past 20 years.

Strength

 * Allies: for each ally ther will be 1 point
 * Participants: material aid = 2 pts and military = 3 pts. If a material aid nation withdraws, the nation loses 1 point if the war isn’t over 3 years after withdrawl. For military aid nations, the aided nation looses 1 point if the aiding nation changes sides (the other nation gains however only 2 points)
 * country has developed military: 1 for each turn dedicated to military or military technology in the last 15 years. This resets after every war
 * expansion: -1 for every turn used for expansion in the past 10 years, as it uses resources and money(unless done by mercenaries, then -0.5 as only $$$ used)
 * Major tech advancement on your side: 5
 * Population: number of digits in population(100 000 000 = 9, 100 000=6), 2 pt bonus may be granted for larger population if both nations have equal digits in populaiton(ex. 15 000 000 and 50 000 000, 50 000 000 gets +2)
 * Larger industrial base: +2

Motive

 * motive is life or death (country's sovereign existence is threatened or nuclear threat): 10
 * motive is religious: 7
 * motive is social or moral: 6
 * motive is political: 5
 * motive is economic: 3

Governement Popularity

 * Loved: 2
 * Liked: 1
 * Tolerated: 0
 * Not Liked; -1
 * Hated: -2
 * Controled press: 1
 * negative moderator event in past 10 years:-1

Ajudiciations

 * Terrain at the front is urban: -1 Attacker / +1 Defender
 * Amphibious invasion: -2 Defender /+2 Attacker
 * Defending nation is island: +2 Defender /+2 Attacker
 * Ajudiciations must remain in the -1 /+1 format
 * Additional adjudications may be added by neutral mods (ex. China invades Siberia-its friggin cold, -2A /+2D, Saudi Arabia invades Yemen, they’re both desert nations, no adjudication)

Other

 * Country has no international trade: -2
 * Populaiton center occupied: -2
 * Industrial centers occupied: -1
 * Opponent is hated by nation: +1
 * Usage of Chemical weapons/WMDs: +3(only available after 1890)(opponent gets +1 in motive for each use)
 * Nuclear Arsenal; +10(only available after 1950)(opponent gets automatic 10 in motive)

Chance
0 to 9 points will be awarded to each person based on chance. Factors will be the opponent's edit count (as indicated by the edit count on the profile of user x) and witch will then be divided by the precise time when the country declares war or acknowledges the other's declaration of war(only hr. and min.) or The product of the non-zero digits of the time by UTC (0:00 yields 1). The result is multiplied by pi and the hundredths digit is the amount of points that person gets (e.g. 123.8377 yields 3). We will use Random.org for NPCs

LxCaucassus
So. He did the algorithm. I'm calling the vote in, to keep it fair, just like in Fractured America:

Should LxCaucassus become a moderator? Yes No

The Voting has passed. LxCaucassus is now a moderator of Greater Europe. Doctor261

Unifying with other countries
I am thinking of trying to play as Mexico in this game, and I'm wondering if we could use diplomacy to "unite" with other countries and annex them. Is this plausible, or not?

RandomWriterGuy 18:41, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. You can do it, as long as you have very similar parties or other similarities(religional for example). Doctor261 19:32, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Please tell me what are these "Spanish-speaking" countries, or just update it yourself on the map. Doctor261 06:43, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

And I don't think, that uniting nations like that is that plausible... Doctor261 09:44, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yees. Next time, use an RNG to determine who agrees, and post it here so we can see the results. It's generally 1-50 = No, 51-100 = Yes. Azecreth 20:16, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The Spanish-speaking countries are: If I can't unite all of these nations at once, can I do them one at a time?
 * 1) Mexico
 * 2) Guatemala: 37
 * 3) Honduras: 95
 * 4) El Salvador: 44
 * 5) Nicagura: 69
 * 6) Costa Rica: 23
 * 7) Panama: 1
 * 8) Cuba: 41
 * 9) Dominican Republic: 74
 * 10) Venezula: 48
 * 11) Colombia: 8
 * 12) Ecuador: 45
 * 13) Peru: 57
 * 14) Bolivia: 43
 * 15) Paraguay: 99
 * 16) Chile: 91
 * 17) Argentina: 74
 * 18) Uruguay: 15

I did my RNG for each country as well.

RandomWriterGuy 01:49, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Fascist Italy
Location: 5 (border invasion)

Attacker's Advantage: 1

Strength:
Allies(Third Reich assists me here):1

Country has developed military: 1

Expansion: -1

Major tech advancement(Paratrooper military school): 5

Population Bonus: 8+2

Larger industrial base: 2

Total Strength: 19

Other Factors

Motive (political): 5

Government: (Tolerated):0 + Controlled Press: +1 = 1

Amphibious invasion(paratroopers, elite soldiers): 2

Opponent is hated by nation: +1

Total: 32

Chance: (639/18)pi=35.5*3.14=111.47

20:09, so 2x1x1x9=18

Total with Chance: 38

Ethiopia
Location: 5 (at the location of war)

Knowledge of landscape: 2

Strength:
Allies:0

Country doesn't have developed military: 0 (mostly using spears and bows)

Expansion: 0

Major tech advancement(none): 0

Population Bonus: 8

Larger industrial base: 2

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total Strength: 10

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Other Factors

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Motive (motive is life or death): 10

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Government: (Loved): 2

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Amphibious invasion(paratroopers, elite soldiers): -2

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Country has no international trade: -2

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Opponent is hated by nation: +1

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total: 26

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Chance: 7(random.org)

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total with Chance: 33

Result:
<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;"> The war is still going. Need to await for Third Reich's approval that it assists us.

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">The war has finished with a crushing italian victory.

Discussion

 * The Reich shall support you! I thought I'd made it clear we would, just not when Italy will help Germany; <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 21:03, November 13, 2011 (UTC).

Soviet Union
<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Location: 5 (border invasion)

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Attacker's Advantage: 1

Strength:
<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Allies(none):0

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Country has developed military: 1

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Expansion: -1

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Major tech advancement(none):0

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Population Bonus: 9

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Larger industrial base: 2

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total Strength: 11

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Other Factors

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Motive (political): 5

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Government: ?????????

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Invasion type: ??????

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Opponent is hated by nation: 1

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Disadvantage from no high command: -10

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total: 13+???

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Chance: ?????

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total with Chance: ???+13+?????

Finland
<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Location: 5 (at the location of war)

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Knowledge of landscape: 2

Strength:
<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Allies:0

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Country has developed military: 1

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Expansion: 0

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Major tech advancement(none): 0

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Population Bonus: 7

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total Strength: 8

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Other Factors

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Motive (motive is life or death): 10

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Government: (Loved): 2

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Invasion Type: ?????????

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Opponent is hated by nation: 1

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total: 13+?????????

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Chance: (random.org) 5

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial;">Total with Chance: 18+?????????

Result:
Finland proposes Moscow Peace Treaty.

Discussion <ul><li>Stalin had initiated and completed his great purge at this point, this OTL hamstrung his army and lost him the war because basically he killed the entire Russian High Command. So, really, Russia should have a massive (I'm talking like -10 points here) disadvantage added. </li></ul> That is true, if you are a mod and you agree then you can add the ajudiciation.

Other stuff
I'm going to join in as Yugoslavia. Michael Douglas 23:36, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, can I move Yugoslavia to Major Powers in 1 or 2 years? It has at this point an increasing military power, approaching Two Thirds of the approximate strength of the Italian army, although it still lacks an Navy. Michael Douglas 21:18, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

In 1-2 years? Well if you keep raising your military every turn, it could become a major power. Doctor261 05:11, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll wait a few years before moving it, just to allow for the necessary change in reputation and economic boom.

Michael Douglas 12:46, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yugoslavia:

 * Location: +5
 * Attacker's Advatage: +1
 * Motive is Moral: +6 (Yugoslav soldiers, held, revenge for bombings)
 * Controlled Press +1
 * Opponent is Hated by nation +1
 * Military Development: +3
 * Larger Industrial Base +2
 * Population: (13,934,038; 1931 Census) +8
 * Terrain at front is Urban -1
 * Chance: 8
 * Total: 26+8=34

Hungary:

 * Location +5
 * Motive is Survival +10
 * Government Liked +1
 * Poluation (8 685 109; 1931 Census, assuming Slavs in Hungary are loyal to government) +7
 * Opponent is Hated by Nation +1
 * Terrain at Front is Urban +1
 * No International Trade -2
 * Chance- 3
 * Total: 23+3=26

Result:
See the post in the game page.

Er... there was no post on the game page. Michael Douglas 21:38, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Brazil
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Wars: 0

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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Population: 8 (42 637 000) + 0

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Larger Industry: 2

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Political Motive: 5

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Governement: 2(loved)

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Chance: 8
 * <span style="font-size:10.0pt;      font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">3*5*7=105


 * <span style="font-size:10.0pt;      font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Edits: 1567


 * <span style="font-size:10.0pt;      font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(1567/105)* pi= 46.8 8 45

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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Total: 34

Bolivia
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Military dev: 0

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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Mod Events: 0

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Population: 7 (2 596 000)

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">No international Trade: -2

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Life or death: 10

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Governement: tolerated: 0

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Marshes and rainforest: +1

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Chance(TBD by neutral Mod): x 6

<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 30pt; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 17.25pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> § <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Total: 25+ x 6=31

<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Result
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Depends on Bolivia chance, if 9 then draw iof less brazil wins.

<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Brazilian victory over Bolivia.