User talk:Lordganon

Mitro 03:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Archive, Archive 2, Archive 3, Archive 4, Archive 5

Congratulations, Lordganon


You are the winner of the 2011 Stirling Award for Best Writer in a Community Timeline in 2010 for your work in 1983: Doomsday. Though you technically won the award a while ago, I officially congratulate you for your achievements and formally present you with this award. Good luck in the next year! Red VS Blue 17:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

USSR's map
Hey LG, I'd like to ask for a favour, if that is ok with you. I was wondering if you would be willing to create a new map for Siberia after the new expansion takes place and is finished somewhere between early May-late June. I'm still sort of leaning towards a push in the direction of the north, but I was hoping to do one towards the south, around five to six months after the one in the north. I decided on this after I looked at Kazakhstan more thoroughly and realized that the USSR didn't have to a large area of Kazakhstan to reach Aralia, only around half of Aktobe and a large part of Kostanay, which would benefit them if wheat could still be grown there.

In any case, let me know if your up for it.--Vladivostok 17:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, well, lets look over what I had in mind then. I was thinking of them controling that small part of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug they aren't already. I was thinking they would expand slightly in Komi, so they would control about half of it. The Arkhangelsk oblast would then take up the majority of the expansion, around 3/4 of it within control. The whole SK annexation happens as planned of course. However, I wasn't sure about Murmansk Oblast. It is fairly empty, other than the Sapmi state, and they aren't really that friendly with the NU. Possible occupation?

Oh, and it would be great if the USSR map would have the various territories and republics highlighted, like the current one has. Once again, thanks for doing this, the current map is getting a bit grainy, lol.--Vladivostok 09:37, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well ok then, that is a bit disappointing, as one of the other reasons to enter the region was a port in Murmansk to give them some access to the Atlantic again. Although a port in Arkhangelsk or former SK would probably work just as well. My plan for announcing this was as follows: I'd announce today that the forces amassing on the USSR's western borders were indeed sent out to grab land and to formally annex SK.

Then, I'd also write that the start of this move would take place on the 5th of May as well. You don't have to finish the map by then, there is no rush, as it would take some time (a month, probably more) to acquire the land and secure it. The name I was thinking of would be something like the Northwestern Territory, but I'm open to suggestions.--Vladivostok 10:06, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I have just now realized I accidentally reverted one of your edits to the Doomsday page. Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just checking some of the edits on a mobile device and clicked revert by mistake. I welcome the edits and making the list more complete for the USSR.--Vladivostok 17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Military Alliance to be announced?
I remember you saying that the military alliance between Chumash and Visaili would be announced today October 1, so I was wondering if we were still going along with that or if it was to be put on hold or what? Yes I did read the post on the WCRB news page about Visaili and the Chumash ambassador visiting. Just get back to me when you can about military operations against Ventura and Santa Cruz (I know you said Ventura specifically but Santa Cruz is still a threat, and going down the 101 is pretty much a straight shot into the central coast, also I don't know where you got "mountains between Chumash and Bakersfield" remember I live here and its pretty much a 2 and a half hour drive into Kern and a 3 hour drive into Bakersfield with only a few small hills along the way). Anyways best of luck. Riley.Konner 10:10, October 1, 2011 (UTC) EDIT reversion:Sorry I just noticed that know were in that discussion did you mention any "mountains" that's my mistake and it will never happen again. Riley.Konner 10:33, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've seen what has been posted, and thank you for updating the Chumash page. In addition to the highways mentioned, Chumash can also send a few Bradley tanks to Visali via highway 46 (though that highway is a death trap lol) and 41. Bombing also sounds good, and naval bombardments from Chumash. I'm thinking a battle between the CRS Santa Barbara and a Venturan ship being called a modern battle between the USS Constitution and the HMS Guerriere. Also I'm working on a WCRB post that is a response given by Vilodari Scholairi and his vows to crush both the countries. Also I thought of a name for the Visali-Chumash alliance I'm thinking Organized States of California or the OSC. As for Mozambique that is at the bottom of my to do list, I'll see what happens in a couple of months. Riley.Konner 12:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Siberian expansion and the areas around Novgorod, Sapmi and Finland
Hey Ganon, I'd like to propose something regarding the territory the SIberian expansion would cover.

Now, based on the map of the NU, could the Siberians take what is left of Karelia and the area between Novgorod and the NU? This would cause tension and I was thinking of adding a bit about some skirmishes or incidents happening while Northern Hammer took place. Nothing serious but I mean, why hype the return of the USSR into this area if there isn't going to be any tension. Let me know what you think and feel free to say where the borders could start between these countries.Vladivostok 18:08, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it is true I haven't been as active as I should have been, sorry about that. In any case, it is a shame that Novgorod controls that area, I was hoping the Siberians would be the ones to acquire the ruins of Leningrad, oh well.

But I was hoping for the annexation of the Kola peninsula, I wanted to have a sort of Berlin airlift event in which the Siberians try and cut off Sampi, only to have the NU basically make their efforts worthless with air support.

I didn't think it was a stretch because the troops that would occupy the area would be from Soviet Karelia, not the principal forces of the USSR.--Vladivostok 11:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, after taking a look at the geography of Kola, I see you're right, a lot of mountain ranges are on the peninsula. But they are in the west and north part of the peninsula, the south-east is mostly flat areas. Now, it is true that these areas are difficult to reach, especially because other that some smaller cities on the coast, there aren't any roads. However, they don't actually have to physically patrol the area just yet to stake their claim.

Now of course air support would be scarse at best in the first expansion, but having just a couple of planes patrol the air space in this area would come a long way in discouraging any other group from trying to take that said area.

Now I also just wanted to bring up the new map for the USSR and the area in general. As far as the rest of the expansion, are we on the same page? So, I believe we said when we originally discussed this ages ago that they would take most of Arkhangels oblast, half of the Republic of Komi and Soviet Karelia.Vladivostok 10:43, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
So I think for our next step for Qu'il Tous, its time to start getting into some of the more political details of America and France, mostly by created an article for the Prime Ministers of France, Speaker of the House, somethings for the Senate of the US, and maybe a list of British Prime Ministers. Ownerzmcown 03:34, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Spotlight Request
Hi. Alternative History Wiki looks great and I've added it to the approved spotlight list. -- Wendy (talk ) 02:36, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations... Myself?


If I don't leave this here, it will 100% slip my mind, lol. Lordganon 08:43, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Featured Page Blurb
Hi LG, I have a quick request.

May I rewrite my timeline's "blurb" that gets posted when it is featured on the front page? I don't know where, if anywhere accessible, I could find the blurb to edit it.

Red VS Blue (talk) 14:33, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

You said to leave the template on "a talk page" but I'll assume that you mean your own (if not, feel free to redirect me elsewhere). The template is everything inside { } brackets without including the lines that have the brackets on them:

{

Superpowers

This timeline explores a world which diverged from history at two independent points:

Marcus Aurelius is followed as Princeps Civitatis by a more competent, adopted son, maintaining the period of the "Good Emperors" for another two centuries. With a stable hold on its territory and a clearer form of government, the Roman Empire does not fall. On the other side of the world, one of the city-states of the Maya civilization comes under the leadership of its own "great unifier" (ala Temujin or Charles the Great) - a man of great charisma and a breaker of old traditions. His effort to unite the Maya into a confederation of cities creates a lasting state, centered on the captured metropolis of Teotihuacan.

From these points, the alternate history goes in an entirely different direction from actual history. Industrialization in one part of the world is fueled by water instead of coal, a pure representative method of democracy is never established, and no existing states are recognizable as countries that exist in the modern world (differing in name, territories, government, or culture).

For the foreseeable future, a major rewrite of this timeline will be underway - largely invalidating the modern world presented in articles such as the Roman Empire or the world wars. Those pages will be left untouched for the enjoyment of readers but anyone wishing to see the final form of this timeline should start reading the timeline from 180 CE (933 AUC). A snapshot of the Roman Empire in the year 580 CE (1333 AUC) stands as a milestone to summarize developments to the reader.

Anyone interested in plausibility may be inclined to read an explanation for the historical fall of the Roman Empire, which can be compared with the events in this timeline as a measure of the plausibility of a surviving Roman Empire.

}

Much appreciated, my friend!

Red VS Blue (talk) 19:03, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

A Kiribati Idea for 13 Fallen Stars
I know its been a while since I last asked for your input, but I'm still unaware whether or not you'd have the time to answer. But I've read a couple of things about Kiribati and I wanted to get your two cents before I get all hyped like I usually do.

I came across some interesting connections between the archipelagos of Kiribati and several New Yorkers. Charles Wilkes was among the first to explore the islands (especially the Line Islands, the Phoenix Islands, and at least of the islands of Tokelau). A New Yorker formally claimed the (which is the only "organized incorporated territory" of the US). It also appears that Spain may have had claims to (though this may be irrelevant).

The simplified version I have would be that New Netherland would beat the British in formally establishing a government there (or proclaiming a protectorate). Since NN already has Tuvalu, they would be near by to do a similar deal as the British did OTL. They would later expand to include the Phoenix and Line Islands, and possibly Tokelau.

All of this is circumstantial at best, and I'm not counting the possibilities that the Brits ramp-up their efforts in the area following the purchase of Spanish Micronesia, or that some kind of compromise would've been preferred (like NN takes Fiji and the UK leaves them alone), or other reasons the Brits might become aggressive in some way. This is why I wish for your input to at least get this out of my head and move on (and not get too hyped).

I was also considering the possibility of being annexed to act as a base for the Nicaragua Canal (since the Galapagos would be much farther south), but not sure the French would like this.

I also have other ideas I wish to get your feedback on, but I don't wish to bother you if you are busy. So lets leave it with this one for now. I look forward to your answer. -- 01:15, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

Bloomsburg Fair
Hey, LG, I was looking around the internet and discovered/realized that the Bloomsburg Fair in Bloomsburg, PA (The capitol of Susquehanna) was occurring the day of Doomsday. I talked with someone who said that there were 5,000 people there that day as vendors and an additional 35,000 visitors to the fair. That would have an obvious impact on the local population in the present, wouldn't it?

Thanks, Daeseunglim (talk) 01:52, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Wilkes Barre
Hey, LG, I am not trying to change canon or anything, I was just curious. When looking around the internet, I found this: http://www.survivalring.org/targetlist/about-us/the-originalus-nuclear-targets/. The site lists Pennsylvania nuke targets as:


 * Primary
 * None
 * Secondary
 * Pittsburg
 * Philadelphia
 * Harrisburg
 * Scranton
 * Willow Grove
 * Tertiary
 * Allentown
 * Altoona
 * Beaver
 * Bethlehem
 * Chester
 * Erie
 * Harrisburg
 * York
 * Johnstown
 * Lancaster
 * Natrona Heights
 * Mechanicsburg
 * Reading
 * Waynesboro

I know an actual war may play out differently, but Wilkes-Barre is not even listed as a tertiary target. Yes, the city would have taken severe damage from the blast at Scranton, lots of people would have died, it probably would have to be abandoned, but I doubt it was nuked. Not to mention, still a chunk of the population would have survived the blast and made it to what is now Susquehanna.

Thanks, Daeseunglim (talk)

DD
Given that it was Fed, not myself, who graduated The Griffin's Doom, can I request that it be re-gradded?

03:15, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, LG
I was looking around the internet and came across this:

http://thekristoffersuniverseinwar.wikia.com/wiki/Category:1983:_Doomsday

And this:

http://thekristoffersuniverseinwar.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Nations_(1983:_Doomsday)

I am unfamiliar with wiki rules on copying stuff from other, but does this violate any rules? I am not trying to cause any issues, but just want admin to be aware of it.

Daeseunglim (talk)

Yeah. I was reading through it, and it's really unrealistic. It's like what you have said on the main talk page. Other cities will replace destroyed ones, and many independent nations will never rejoin the reformed USA (ie: Virginia) due to nationalism and the length of time. I know even for my nation, I changed the rejoining the USA thing, b/c I got to thinking and realized it has been 31 years. The people who would still want to rejoin are out of office for the most part, and younger generations are taking over. They would understand what the US stood for, and it was important in the past, but now it is gone. Daeseunglim (talk)

That as well, lol! Daeseunglim (talk)

EoGuy
What do you mean? He changed the rules of my map game, and put spelling errors on dozens of pages. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, and assumed he was simply using the wiki bot, and didn't mean to edit the rules like that. Else it would be rather odd to go about changing the map game's rules like that. I didn't mean to come off as offensive or derogatory, I was just slightly annoyed, as this isn't the first time I've had this discussion with him. If he was doing it on purpose, even after I specifically told him not to, I believe that would be vandalism. Notice I talked to him about it instead, rather than going to the TSPTF, because I doubt EoGuy had malicious intentions. Mscoree (talk) 23:20, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

what does not a timeline mean? and what is a timeline? Blob doom (talk) 14:02, December 29, 2014 (UTC)blob doom

Mr. Admin, i'm sorry for posting false facts about Ceuta and Melilla. I'm sure i can make it right next time. World Class Hero (talk) 08:31, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Two Different Queens; One Survives, Another Dies
Hello LG,

I hope you are well, and enjoying the holiday season, if you choose to celebrate it.

I recently came up with two different points of divergence, and I was wondering if, if you have time, you could give your opinion on their possible ramifications. The first concerns Charlotte, Princess of Wales. The POD would be that rather than dying in childbirth in 1817, she survived and went on to succeed her father as queen. Considering that the monarch held relatively little real power at this point, I don't think Queen Charlotte would make Britain significantly different from otl. Rather, I think she would effectively be an earlier Victoria, with Leopold taking on the role of Prince Albert. With Leopold thus occupied, when the Belgians gain their independence and go on their quest for a king, who do you think they would pick (or rather, have imposed upon them)? From what I have read, the Belgian National Congress chose Louis-Phillippe's second son as first choice, Auguste de Beauharnais as second choice, and Archduke Charles of Austria as a distant third. Seeing as none of those choices were agreeable to the Great Powers (or should I say, agreeable to Britain) otl, do you think this ttl Charlottine Britain would also pick an outsider? And just as a side-note, considering Leopold's potential influence, do you think it possible for him to advance his nephew, Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, as a possible candidate? His protestantism should not pose a problem, considering Leopold himself was protestant.

My second concerns Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands dying in childbirth in 1909, along with her child. This would have left the throne of the Netherlands to Wilhelm Ernest of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, however he had stated that if offered the crown, he would refuse it. If this were the case, it would pass to his aunt, Marie Alexandrine of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. If, as was generally expected, she declined it in favour of her son, then Prince Heinrich XXXII of Reuss would become king. Now, were this to have occurred, do you think that the Washington Post's claim that King Heinrich would "...bring Holland within the sphere of the German Empire, at the expense of her independence, both national and economic" would hold true? I am not entirely sure how much influence the Dutch monarch had at that point, but if it was as much as the (somewhat sensationalist-sounding) Post claimed, could Heinrich not have brought the Netherlands into WWI on the side of the Central Powers? And, even if this had occurred, would thhe Dutch have had any impact at all on the war? I believe that Britain was already blockading the Netherlands, so an actual Dutch entry into the war would mean next to no difference to the British fleet. But do you think the Dutch Army might have had some little impact on the Western front? I have no idea of its size. And also, assuming the Allies won, do you think it would be reasonable to say that the Dutch would lose the East Indies? Or could a Dutch campaign against Malaysia and Australian New Guinea tie down valuable British resources which could have been used on the Front?

Anyway, I hope to hear your thoughts,

Callumthered (talk) 14:03, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I really should have taken Albert's age into consideration, haha. Interesting point you make about the Greek throne though. And I did think the Washington Post was being a little bit sensationalist with their claims. Thanks for the help!

Callumthered (talk) 13:40, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Victory of the Gray
Greetings LG,

Previously you had marked this most recent TL of mine ASB-biased, to which I responded by leaving a query as to why this was done on your talk page as well as outlining my dispute with that classification. Having recieved no response, I reversed the edits and you left it alone (Appearing to have accepted my reasoning) until my most recent grammatical update to it. May I request as to why this was done this time? If you have some specific problem with the TL, please convey to me what that is when you have the chance.

God Bless the United States of America (talk) 01:02, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Don't tell me: Eric? He complained? Ace? He complained too? Uh. Fine. I will fix it up then. Spartian300 (talk) 17:52, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Is there a problem with the wiki, specifically my "Japanese Victory" page? I try to edit/add content but the edit box takes to long to upload then cancells

Vexacus (talk) 19:19, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

A World Apart
There is an abandoned timeline from a few years ago, that seems like it had major potential. The author doesn't seem to be coming back anytime soon, so can I have your permission to adopt it? Upvoteanthology ( Talk | Sandbox )

A Not-So-New, New Idea
Hi, LG.

As we go into our second decade of wiki-ship, I think that we could incorporate a neat feature that I have seen executed really well elsewhere: the Featured Article.

Instead, we operate a Featured TL, which I believe can still be retained, but I see the following issues with only having a Featured TL and not a Feautred Article as well: Now, a number of other wikis have Featured Articles, most notably Wikipedia and Wookieepedia. I urge you to consider this proposal; it has already gotten the approval of your fellow Brass, Imp.
 * The Featured TLs are all so good: Let's face it: practically no TL can compare to 83:DD, Superpowers, GWS, or the Kalmar Union. They are all terrific. To nominate a TL to Featured Status is to confer unto it the same level of prestige as these great works, and therefore we get practically no nominations.
 * Article writing leads to TL writing: As someone who has written a few TLs, and most of DD, you surely know that the way to write a TL is to write articles. The more, in-depth articles one has, the better quality the TL overall is. Introducing an incentive to write great articles is introducing an incentive to write great TLs.
 * Stirlings only come once a year: One of the hottest categories in the Stirlings is Best New Article, but these include only a small cross-section of the thousands of articles made annually. If we could narrow it down and only look on a monthly basis, we could do a better job rewarding TL writers.

Thank you very much for your time! 20:09, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

I apologize in that I don't think I was very clear with this whole long proposal. Pretty much, all I wanted to say was that we should set up a Featured Article section. I don't think we should give monthly awards other than the Featured Article section. Nor do I think we should move Stirlings or anything like that.

If you think it is an alright idea, I could create the rules in an extension page of mine and then try to get it all set up for you so that it can be presented in a more official and more complete manner. Again, that is only if you think its ok. Thank you, 19:55, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re:OFS, NUSA
Well I have talked to this with Oer about such a thing occuring. But I do feel that it cannot be NUSA. I might have a look with OFS to see if I should remove that newshour or not. However, I might have the AEC instead pressure them to change their ways. They kinda do need an update in the laws as the start of globalisation begins in this ATL.

However, NUSA breaking up is most likely happening tbh. It does seem like an outdated idea and I can see where Oer is coming from with NUSA.

So yea  Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:04, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Right I see your point. Yea I will keep the fact that NUSA is going to break up but I'll remove any mention of legislatation passed by OFS for such a move for equality. Perhaps I'll just instead state the coloureds feel that there should be more equality and a small minority of the whites agree or something.

So the beginnings of change, but nothing really happening. Perhaps a rally occurs in the OFS for this issue, which gets (violently?) broken up?

Yea of course not. I think this golbalisation can be compared to like the late 80s or early 90s. But of course they will reach the stage we are at quicker than we did cause the base for such is already there. Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Right ok, cheers. I did think it made sense to have something of the sort with coloreds. I'll change the WCRB Newshour soon.

Wow, so really authoratative with the whole "more rights for different races"?

I guess. We will first need the re-establishment of commercial air travel for this to really take off. Mobility for people was quite an influence factor. Perhaps the Celtic Union is finally starting to expand its control over the oil fields. On another topic, would Mexico have taken over the American off-shore oil-fields? Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:22, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

CoS
Any issues now? And can the military be graduated? The militia as an FYI is a poorly armed county organized group, almost like the militias formed during WWII, reciving little federal funding, and poorly armed or trained.

Any issues with the nation page? Daeseunglim (talk) 18:38, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

What weapons? Daeseunglim (talk)

The M14's were a combination of scavenged weapons from National Guard armories, Army Reserve armories, ROTC and JROTC facilities, Tobyhanna Army Depot, and ones purchased from Virginia (although most were scavenged). There are actually quite a few in my area. Daeseunglim (talk)

Whoops, I misread your comment. Would it be possible for the unit to have an Automatic Rifleman, and what weapon would they carry? Also, what Submachine gun? Daeseunglim (talk)

TSPTF Rights - Sky
Sorry to bother you, but I I'm correct, my election is over and it's pretty much unanimous. So, could I get constable rights now? SkyGreen24 14:02, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Stupid Stuff
Glad to see you've been around more as of lately. Do hope everything is going alright with you.

I also wanted to get your input on a scenario I've been contemplating for New Union. I'm sure it will not work, but maybe you see something I don't.

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:NuclearVacuum/Sandbox#Curse_You_Brain.21

-- 22:35, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

1983:DD
Hi. I'm interested in contibuting to the timeline, and I was hoping to adopt Don Republic (1983: Doomsday) and expand and otherwise add detail to the article a bit. Since you were the last active editor to edit the article, I figured you may as well be assumed to be the owner. So can I get your okay to adopt it, or is there someone else I should ask?Shikata ga nai! 23:17, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline Adoption Question/Reminder
I would like to adopt a TL, I have put a notice on the talk-page of this TL:

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Olympic_Terror_in_Athens

How long do I need to wait before it's mine?Vexacus (talk) 11:00, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

CoS Defense Forces
The automatic rifleman is different than the machine gun team. The automatic rifleman has a fully automatic M14, for light suppression fire. The other soldiers in the unit are suppose to fire on single shot, or semiautomatic. The machine gun team is independent of the infantry fireteam. Daeseunglim (talk)

So two infantrymen? I based the fireteam around a US army fireteam without the grenadier. The M14 was suppose to act as a SAW as well. That is why it is designate for the fireteam. Also, the reason why there is a AR is because the units armed with the M1919 are support units, not always deployed forward with the regular infantry. What about the Bren SAW? It shares ammunition and increases the capacity for the fireteam. Also, would it be possible for Susquehanna to begin manufacturing grenade launchers? It would be closer to a rifle grenade launcher than a modern day underslung grenade launcher, but would be an under barrel attachment. It would use the standard hand grenade and a blank to launch the grenade. Daeseunglim (talk)

Ok. Daeseunglim (talk) 16:52, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying, but I do disagree with your reasoning. Susquehanna has been fighting raiders for years. This is similar to the US War on Terror albeit more sucessful. A US military fireteam has a Team Leader, Infantryman, Grenadier, and Automatic Rifleman. I am basing Susquehanna's fireteam off of that. I understand the lack of a grenadier, but I do believe that an AR would be very useful, especially against the massive attacks that the enemy launchs. The way an AR would work, is, unless given orders to fire on full automatic, would act as a base infantryman on semiauto. If needed, they would be able to fire SHORT bursts at a mass of enemies. It would not be exactly like a US AR today, but would still have that capacity to an extent. Daeseunglim (talk)

Ok, thanks! Daeseunglim (talk)

Obsolete page?
Can you explain why my Kalamazoo page is obsolete? I was still editting it and I am wanting to find what is wrong with it so it may become an actual page. Blocky858 (talk) 20:01, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Re: Kalamazoo
OOOOOOH no wonder. I looked on the map where it said the places that were nukesd and it didn't include Kalamazoo, my sincerest of apologies. Blocky858 (talk) 00:16, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline Adoption Question/Reminder II
I would like to adopt a TL, I have put a notice on the talk-page of this TL:

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Suez_War

How long do I need to wait before it's mine? Vexacus (talk) 21:00, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

I would talk to you on chat, but it doesn't work in school. :(  Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:09, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Winner!


Grats to... me?

Lordganon (talk) 14:32, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Cheers. And yea, deserve that one as much as Louis, methinks. Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:36, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Delmarva
I can see why you don't want me to adopt Delmarva, and I can respect that. However, it is painfully difficult for me to find a nation in 1983:DD, and I am still interested in contributing to the TL. Do you know of any ideal locations and/or nations that you would approve of me adopting? Thanks. Saturn120 (Talk/Blog) 02:16, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

1983:DD
I made a request some time ago to adopt the Don Republic, which you rejected. Fair enough, but I'm still interested in adopting a nation. The problem is, as far as I can see, none are open, and there is nowhere to create a new nation without being implausible. Are there any nations I could reasonably adopt, and if so, which? Shikata ga nai! 20:51, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Leadership
Would it make sense for Susquehanna to change the leadership title from Governor and Lieutenant Governor to President and Vice President or Premier? My thoughts on it was governor was typically used for the leadership of a sub-entity, while president is used for an independent government.

I feel it would put out a stronger feelings that Susquehanna is actually independent, or other nations take it more seriously.

Also, if so, considering strong ties with Canada, but strong American culture, would it make more sense to call the secondary leadership Vice President or Premier? Daeseunglim (talk)

IP Addresses
LG, there is some suspicion that Ratcolor is a sockpuppet of Ms. I contacted wikia central and they confirm that they have the same IP address, but Ms says that he and Rat were/are classmates at a school and therefore have the same IP address. I don't know enough about IP addresses to know if that is possible or not, and therefore I would like your input on the matter.

Thank you in advance.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 18:48, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Another thing we have to think about is that it's not the time this accusation comes to mind. Seriously, some extremely shady stuff has been going on around Ms and his friends (the TSPTF election debacle comes to mind). Fed (talk) 19:04, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Is it just me or is this happening too frequently to be a coincidence? I'm starting to get suspicious about all this. I feel like some of it has to be true, if not all. It's becoming too commonplace.

19:10, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

While some may feel I should have no say, I agree. At the least, Ms is up to something. My guess? He is trying to do as much damage to the TSTPF. Spartian300 (talk) 21:18, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Good afternoon LG,

I am outlining a possible timeline of mine and I would like some input of yours. The idea of it is Hugh Capet is unable to exert central authority over the french states, and West Francia devolves into a HRE-esque state and just as divided when it comes to a common policy, while East Francia still morphs into the Holy Roman Empire.

My question is what effects this will have on areas such as the Iberian Penninsula and the British isles. For one, I'd imagine the Hundred Years War would most likely never happen. On the other hand, I don't know if the Norman invasion of England would occur, and if so how a divided France would affect the outcome.

If you could answer these questions, as well as offer any suggestions, I'd appreciate that.

Good day, I am that guy (talk) 22:22, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

My questions
im looking back at my first timeline and it has come to my attention that there are alot of issues with it most of which im trying to address. the main point being that i dont like how the joanne of the arc pod is working out im thinking about switching it to the surprise of meaux or to the amboise conspiracy succeeding. Im not looking to make France protestant but rather to have a different french war of religion, albiet similar results the catholics eventually win and the huguenots flee to the netherlands, England, or to the protestant german states.

Also i wanted to figure out just how Oda Nobunaga's survival would effect Japanese unification.

With Blood and Iron (talk) 13:10, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

And what about Nobunaga's son Nobutada. Without their death you have a linew of succession.

Alright fair enough and i guess spanish involvement would have been greater no?

With Blood and Iron (talk) 15:11, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Can you?
Can you delete my political compass images except the one on my userpage? Cheers. 16:00, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Come to chat
It would be much appreciated. 15:59, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Hey.
I was planning to make a nation in France, but told Europe was full. I found a perfect location in South Carolina on the East Coast, and it is definitely habitable. I'm going to make it soon, please can you give me some tips before starting? Cheers. Oh, and btw, it would be where Myrtle Beach is, and is just a city-state. 20:01, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Kanjorski
Hey, I found that he lived in southern Nanicoke, and the radiation would have gone northeast. Survivors fled south, with a few exceptions. So Kanjorski could survive. Daeseunglim (talk)

My thoughts of that was he managed to get out after reports from Washington on the nuclear war, he gets out just in time, but his family does not. Daeseunglim (talk)

I actually found at the time he worked for the city of Nanticoke at the time as an Assistant Solicitor between leaving law and going into politics. Daeseunglim (talk)

Please dont remove my Page
Hello I am Bob I have suffered a problem, at first I forgot to read how an Article shoud be made and I see the mistake now, I woud remove any of the Derivative on the Article if you could take the Delete Thing, also I have began an Account the problem is that when it say´s you need the confirmation Email, for some weird reason it doesnt send it, it doesnt appear on the main Page neither in the Spam folder, I woud remove all of the Derivative thing´s if you woud let me Edit the Page by removing the Delete thing, also the article was named WW3 not World in Conflict meaning someone woud have changed it.

Sinceralely. Bob 190.106.221.27 20:13, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Ms
Ms has found himself at the business end of a wikiblock due to lying to avoid a ban on PMIII and lying about me, no less. I gave him six months off. If you think that's too short, feel free to update the ban length. Crim de la Crème 18:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Speaking as a related voice here, I personally feel that the length of the ban is too long considering the crime and the fact that, as far as I know, we have to rely on a basic "he said she said" scenario. Anyway, it's your call to make, just wanted to throw in another opinion.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 04:29, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hello I am new. I am a member of Map Game wiki. Revolution 9 (talk) 20:28, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

Request
Hello there L.G I am afraid I acted with haste when I first got here and you blocked me. Could I possibly adopt the article series now? Since the user that created it is gone? --UserRevisited (talk) 03:21, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

ill admit. I am Alexanders, I decided to delete my account when I graduated High School but I decided to come back here. I should have been upfront about this. I can't give a justification for not doing this. I know I was an annoyance the years I was here and this doesn't do anything to help the situation.

If you won't let me edit this fine I deserve it, but please delete the pages then i would not have them floating forever.

66.76.208.132 05:22, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

I am the same person, this account is connected to my email that I have had since High School. It is a different account that the one connected to my original but I deleted the other one four years ago.

UserRevisited (talk) 03:54, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Once, on Southwriter's talk page I told him my real name on a Doomsday discussion. My real name is also within the yahoo account I am connected to. I made that account four years ago. This is Alexanders, otherwise a user would not be so insistent. I made "The Legend of Dixieland" I am asking you sincerely for the rights to the articles I made.

Is there any proof I could produce to prove to you that I am the same user. I would do my best to do so. --UserRevisited (talk) 17:59, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

And I suppose my adopting it now is not legal according to the wiki rules?

66.76.208.132 22:32, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

I am not sure how to adopt this legally, now that my old account is gone and I cannot reactivate that one.. 22:10, March 26, 2015 (UTC)UserRevisited (talk)

But I would like if it was possible to have an avenue where I could inherit the articles.

Thank you, I will take the appropriate stepsUserRevisited (talk) 01:17, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

Kaiserreich
Check out this page: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Kaiserreich

Is this actually derivative? Or does it merely share a title? Kaiserreich is an actual German word so it can't be deleted off of that. Thoughts? PitaKang- (Talk to me | Kill count: 6)
 * Being the person who nominated that althistory for deletion, and shares the creator's love for that well-known video game modification; I'd say definitely. Vegas planned to continue where the canon of Kaiserreich ends and take it to the modern day. He and I had only been on the wiki for about two months in May 2010, so I have to admit neither of us was aware of the rule on derivative works by that point. --NFSreloaded (talk) 22:45, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Lordgannon! I need some help. I am making a Timeline called  Rivier van die Lewe  where the Sahara is habitable but I am stuck, can you help me out?

TSPTF Question
Hello LG, I hope you have been doing well.

I have a question about the TSPTF, and my role in regards to it. I will admit, I'm not usually on enough to deal with rollbacks or deleting articles and adding categories and the maintenance of the Wikia. However, I'm wondering if maybe a new category for members of the TSPTF should be established where instead of dealing with upkeep and the like, we instead make it clearer to newer users and those that need help with help with their timelines themselves, in regard to plausibility and writing their stories as best as possible. It would be more an advisory to help if asked for instead or marching about trying to make sure everything conforms to a set standard.

I'm only curious about doing this because I feel that I could do that easier than dealing with the other issues that the rest of the TSPTF has done a good job so far of keeping on top of, at least as far as I know. Even if you don't want it to be part of the TSPTF, if we had some older, more experienced users who can help newer users when they work on their timelines, and an easy way to get a hold of them, would help immeasurably for those that are only just starting out here.

Thanks Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 18:51, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Tbguy and LG,

If I may jump into this conversation, then I'd like to add my own support of this idea, accompanied by the suggestion that access to such "mentors" for users could be made available through the welcome message that every new user receives.

Rarely do I see ideas suggested for this wiki that strike me as "good" but this idea immediately caught my attention and I would be willing to argue in its favor. I think it's a damn fine idea.

Cheers

Red VS Blue (talk) 04:31, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Editing
How do I get the old Source Editing back?

I can't access Japanese Victory at all.

Bil

EoGuy

EoGuy (talk) 23:11, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Apologies
Hey LG,

Apologies for uploading that image of Leonid Kravchuk with a rather silly file name. I should of known to rename it to something other than simply "Main". I promise it won't happen again!

Yankee97 (talk) 20:53, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Help
As a relatively new user on the wiki, I don't exactly know how I should proceed constructing my 1983: Doomsday articles. I would really appreciate your help. Andreas.martonosy (talk) 18:36, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

thank you very much lordganon79.16.179.137 12:38, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Kanjorski
So even though he lives in Nanticoke, you believe he would have died? Also, if so, I respect your opinion, as you have been very helpful to me! Would you have any ideas for another lieutenant governor? My only thoughts about changing the title to President and Vice President was due to Susquehanna not claiming to be a successor state to Pennsylvania. It recognizes State College as the successor to the former state. All it would really entail is name change and a new stamp, lol.

Also, when would it be possible for the coal power plant to be brought back online? I don't think that the nuke plant will ever be recommissioned as it would be extremely cost prohibitive for such a project. But I thought by the end of 2015, early 2016, maybe a UC project so the nation isn't a burden to State College, NP, or Niagara Falls power grid. I figured power to major industries and hospitals first, radio stations, then federal buildings, then Hazleton, Bloomsburg, Danville, and possibly Berwick. I really doubt without massive aid that the other communities more than likely will not get power. I figured it would be like some African nations, where the industrial centers and major cities have electricity.

Also, I know off the top of my head that North Penn, Superior, Vermont, Canada, and Niagara Falls have TV in the UC operates one (I think), and more than likely Toledo, London, and Kingston (Although I think you told me once that is part of Canada now) have a station. I am unsure about Reading, State College, and Gettysburg.

When would a realistic time for my nation to get television? Also, is three radio stations too many? Daeseunglim (talk)

Map Contest
So, Cour's been gone for around a month and a half right now, and I've been wondering if I could take over the Map Contest?  April showers,  bring May flowers.

How's it going?
It's been a while since we lasted talked and just wanted to see how you've been. I don't have any ideas to though your way at the moment, but I do want to thank you for the input you gave in New Union (even if that user made no sense). Anyway, hope you've been doing well and look forward to talking to you later. -- 03:17, April 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear you've been doing alright. I wish you luck on your paperwork and will be speaking with you later. -- 18:59, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Kanjorski, etc
Ok, thanks! What do you think of Tim Holden? He graduated in 1980 from Bloomsburg and worked in the area as an insurance broker. Also, alright with the power plants and stuff. My only thoughts was it did seem like overall there was a power shortage throughout the UC, and bringing Susquehanna's one power plant would help relieve some of the pressure. Also, I know that Berwick has heavy manufacturing equipment for rail cars (I think it is flatbeds, but not 100% sure), but doesn't London, Ontario manufacture trains? So would it be plausible for Susquehanna to sell London the equipment in exchange for aid in refurbishing the plant? Also, if/when the power plant was brought back online, would it be possible for the auto parts manufacturer to restart, or would Susquehanna trade the equipment for parts to Toledo or North Penn? Daeseunglim (talk)

Advice, please
So in my TL, Edmund Ironside lives longer than otl, meaning England is split longer than otl. When Edmund dies roughly twenty years later, his son and the Wessex nobles resist the claim of Cnut to it. Long story short, Cnut fails to take over Wessex, leaving him and his sons stuck with the Danelaw.

My problem is what would the Danes name their English territories? I'd figure Cnut and his immediate descendants would continue to call it "England". But after several failed attempts to subjugate Wessex, a sizable chunk of "England", I'd think that sooner or later the name would change. Would it be called Jórvìk, as that's what the old viking kingdom in roughly that area was called? Or would they opt for resurrecting the name of the Heptarchy kingdoms: Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia? Or maybe something else, or maybe just stick with England to show a continued claim to Wessex?

I'm sorry if this seems like a mediocre question to spend your time on.

I am that guy (talk)

PA
Hey LG, Godfrey Ralphael and I were discussing relations between Susquehanna and the other PA survivor states. First off, who controls North Pennsylvania and State College. Secondly, we figured Reading and Susquehanna at least would have some sort of alliance.

Would an EU/NATO style relationship be possible for all of PA? And if so can I adapt the other page I had made? Daeseunglim (talk)

What are the four different goals? Also, would I be allowed to edit State College and NP and put in a short paragraph or sentence about contact with Susquehanna? Daeseunglim (talk)

Listen LG, I have noticed that the 1983:Doomsday page on the Azanian League has not mention on how Swaziland entered that country. Could you please write it?79.50.176.93 12:13, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks! Also, I thought that NP and Reading had recognized State College as the PA sucessor state. Although I guess NP uses Pennsylvania State Flag. I might have misunderstood the articles. I hadn't realized how close to Virginia and Gettysburg had gotten. I knew NP was close with Canada though. I guess though proximity had an impact on their relations. Daeseunglim (talk)

Ok, thanks! Curious, I may have asked you this before, but what would the order be for the largest cities in Pennsylvania? I thought either Reading, or State College, then the other, then Meadville, then Hazleton, then Warren, then Gettysburg, and lastly Allentown. Daeseunglim (talk)

Ok, cool, thanks! It was just something I find interesting! Daeseunglim (talk)

Das Vaterland
So a long time ago you marked my undeveloped Das Vaterland page as ASB.

Do you consider any Nazi victory against the Soviets implauable? Or this there a "way" in which it could work?

The B (talk) 20:24, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

oh.. I didn't check.. and wait.. which page was I not supposed to edit?(I thought the 1983:doomsday thing was open to everyone..) Tao64 (talk) 11:32, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

Pskov Category
I just wanted to say that I don't see a reason why there should be two separate categories at the moment. While the Pskov Republic is different from the Pskov Oblast, they still shared (roughly) the same borders. To me this sounds no different then how Persia and Iran are the same yet describe different times (and that we should use the contemporary ones). I'd like to request that you revert this when you can. -- 15:39, April 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd also like to note that every article and file related to the Pskov Republic were done by a single user and are used on a single timeline (which at the same time already have a timeline-related category). -- 15:43, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

So I'm to assume you had zero intention of reverting anything. All I wanted to do was simplify everything, but you wish to make it more complicated? I have no idea what you want me to do anymore. First you scolded me years ago for making specific categories, and now you're doing the same for making simplified ones? Which do you want?

I just wanted to help out, but now I give up! -- 20:37, April 15, 2015 (UTC)


 * I was referring to the conflicting pieces of information you are giving me, not the way you gave it years ago. But you wouldn't allow for categories for the FSM, yet are keen on allowing ones for the historic states of Germany and Russia.


 * I would prefer we use simplified categories that are based on their contemporary counterparts. With the case of categories for the USSR and Russia, these two correspond mostly to two separate things (especially in area). Iran and Persia were primarily in the same area.


 * But if you wish to have more complex ones, than I will work with this. But there needs to exist no hypocrisy. If there is to be multiple categories for cities and countries depending on their historic circumstances, than this should be the whole case (i.e., what I wanted to do with the FSM). If you want to keep categories in some collective one, than this should be the case for all (especially with those that have very little articles/files on this site).


 * The reason I combined Pskov was because there exists only one article for it. If there existed multiple articles of just the republic, I would still say we should keep a single category. If there existed multiple articles of the two separated, than I would greatly support there existing multiple categories.


 * At the moment I'm just confused and frustrated at the situation, not at you (I'm completely sorry if I sounded as such). -- 19:24, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article state: "The term Micronesia may refer to the Federated States or to the region as a whole." The term is not exclusive to just the nation. This is why I wanted to create a category called "Federated States of Micronesia" and to have the "Micronesia" category before the region as a while (which includes multiple countries and territories. From this logic, this is just as valid an argument as for there to exist two or more articles for Iran, Kaliningrad, Pskov, and whatever else is the case.

Comparing this to Istanbul/Constantinople is not correct. In fact, why isn't this category separated? If Iran and Persia, Kaliningrad and Königsberg are different enough to warrant separate categories, why not this one?

There needs to be some kind of standardization, not a case-by-case basis. That's more what I'm upset about. -- 21:07, April 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Forgive me, but this continues to sound hypocritical to me, and I don't think there's anything I can do to justify this in my head without it exploding. I think I'm just going to stay away from categories in the future and allow you to do what needs to be done in this field. -- 02:08, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you please explain to me what's appropriate for personal categories? Recently, you removed such categories from a series of images of real people, but kept other from the same group. How would Stephen Harper be okay, while Erna Solberg wouldn't be? -- 16:44, April 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * You do know that many of those categories included articles about said individual (since you removed them), so please don't say that "there's nothing else for the other names." Also, what happened to "better to have the differences now, then later."? -- 20:09, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hey there,
My timeline is not finished yet,  not everything that is part of it will become cannon

I am asking you to please or to give permission to remove the ASB tag.

There is a thin line between what may be plausible to someone's perception between one person or another. My timeline may seem slanted to you but it just a story, the events that happened, unlikely but to just denounce them is prejudiced. If you sat back and judged real history it would be to easy to point out events that don't make any sense as ASB. One could call anything a wank. The rise of Christianity out all of the tiny religions that in the Roman Empire to eventually become that nation's state religion and the largest religion of the world could be called an bias timeline if that had not happened. The Mongols in the 13th century exploding over Eurasia from an alliance of Steep tribes would also be bias in a world where the khans had just remained chieftains. What about the Nazi party founded by a bus driver becoming the world's infamous organization just because of one man joining and transforming their party. The rise of Homio Sapiens to evolve better than all other human species. One of the most historically conservative nations in the world- China eventually adapting a radical ideology that came from halfway around the world in Germany. Or perhaps the story of one small ancient people, the Hebrews still being remembered because of texts they wrote. Would these all be ASB is these had not happened in the real past? Could you imagine a fictional version yourself not labeling at least one them. I could go on and on with examples.

At the end of the day A.H writers can only hope to imitate history through our writing, we can't truly hope to emulate a created history that as imagined that will be as complicated, elaborate or confused as real history. It can't be done. We only see to satisfy ourselves in our own interests, we attempt to though for this to make fairly realistic or possible. The act to do so isn't easy and not everyone agrees with what is possible or not because we all have our own opinions. Our opinions may come from our knowledge level of history, our life experiences and our personality.

If you think my TL is horrible fine, you have the right to your opinion; constructive criticism is welcome, to me it is desired. But by your divine moderator powers relegating a project to an unflattering category, according what- your own opinion, just your opinion. You know more about history than I do, your older than many of us here and your ideas can help us. But you don't that you just look at something real quickly decide its against what is reasonable to you and put a label on it that is designed to convince the casual reader that the works are absolute garbage. Because somehow it will distinguish the rest of the wiki that you do like or at least tolerate from those unclean ASB articles. In the process I think a certain size of creativity is lost on this wiki, I am not talking about my own timeline but others that have been discredited. You know some featured histories have the ASB label, does that make them unworthy?

Granted there are some timelines that have such a thin veil to advocate for political ideas but that still doesn't justify to me the mass labeling of so many articles whenever and wherever you wish, The ASB label, especially the multiple labels are designed to create an unfriendly atmosphere that puts some works permanently better/worse than others based on a single person's opinion. In the abstract ASB has some value to create limits for those of us who do like a certain degree of realism but on this website it has been used to shame rather than to help. My problem with the ASB is not with criticism but the implications given on this website When the label is given opinions or suggestions are not often given just the label. No help or discussion basically an insult to the concept that the timeline is exploring.

This work is a creative endeavor, we are not being strict engineers or chemists that must for the sake of their work being meaningful sticking to specific natural laws. We are writers dealing with the creation of history out of arbitrary values we create if we do not have the smallest bit of creativity than we do not have alternative history.

Is not an irony that you labeled a timeline ASB that had been written by the user that brought the concept to this wiki?

Abya Yala By Chewy

If you read the ASB page made by Chewy it dosen't really sound all that negative, but today at this wiki the label has been interepted as such. Surley Chewy didn't think his idea was ASB or he did it didn't matter to him because he just wanted to do it.

Never mind that there was no disscussion by users on whether it was ASB, that the user hasn't been around to defend his work or that the idea was given some positive feedback in the talk page.

This letter isn't meant to be a personal attack on you or what you have done to manage the Wiki this past five years but is a suggestion to reconsider the new specified ASB categories and to change the manner in which you apply them. I this wiki was made to create a community for history enthusiasts to have fun, to discuss what we like to talk about and to enjoy the writing not just for the final product for the act of writing.

Sincerely, UserRevisited

Okay,  I'll take your word for it. Maybe I respond to term too negatively, explain it to me.

"Messing" Part 2
My apologies for what I said, I didn't know you were the owner and was rather pissed. I don't mean any disrespect by my language I used back then, but I would like to ask whether I could restart on this wiki, if that's possible. Nicktc 09:25, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

"Messing" Part 3
I know that, but I imagined you would be offended or so, though I gather this is not the case? Nicktc 15:12, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Not exactly "Messing" Part 4
Oh lol, that doesn't sound good. What happened? If I may ask. Nicktc 07:37, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I gather that is positive. Anyway, I kinda want to start all over, but do I just label my old pages with a Delete template then and wait for them to be removed? Nicktc 10:39, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, great. Is there a delay for when a page is deleted? Nicktc 15:29, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Kingsport, Tennessee
Hi LG, I know that the list of targets on Doomsday is never complete, but GBUSA and I were talking. Kingsport Tennessee hosted a manufacturing plant that produced explosives for the US Navy Trident missiles. I don't know if it was a super important target, so just asking. Daeseunglim (talk)

ANZCS Commonwealth
Would I be allowed to finish this page eventually? Daeseunglim (talk)

Deleting
Hi LG,

I'm just wondering if there is any set guideline regarding how long we wait before deleting pages in the delete category. I seem to recall someone saying it was two weeks, but I figured I would ask first before jumping to conclusions.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 19:43, May 10, 2015 (UTC)