User talk:Vivaporius



FRENCH WEST AFRICA?! THAT'S SUICIDE! AMERICA WOULD NEVER HELP! AMERICA AND FRANCE ARE ALLIES! IF YOU DID THAT, FRANCE, BRITAIN, RUSSIA, AMERICA, HALF OF EUROPE AND ASIA WOULD GO TO WAR WITH YOU AND LIBERIA WOULD BECOME PART OF FWA! Sorry for all caps, but that's one of the most ridiculous map game moves I ever heard! Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:06, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Liberia and America
Now I could, but it would be hard to fight the French over the Atlantic, especially since they are helping in Mexico. I will be away from the computer and the states for a while, so I can't help you here. But I can diract you to Scrawland, who will be taking my place until I get back. Monster Pumpkin 02:08, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, umm, Scraw appears to not approve. This might be a problem. Monster Pumpkin 02:08, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

You should ask France's enemies, not their allies. Get Germany and some other folks with you. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:12, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Germany, Austria-Hungary, Italy (sort of), Latin America, and any haters of America, Britain, or Russia. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:21, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your plans.
'''YOU ARE TOTALLY RIDICULOUS, BRITAIN WOULD NEVER HELP YOU THE FRENCH ARE ALLIES OF THE CROWN. This is what annoys me about you beginners is that y'all think that you can become like superpowers or something and face enemies like France. Liberia is honestly a joke to any country right now so good luck with that.AP 03:06, June 29, 2012 (UTC)'''

You are one to talk. AP is good member of the gaming community and he has much experience. He has played in several games--with a lack of implausibility. How on earth do you not know that France and Britain were allied in the days leading up to World War I? Every American or European student is taught that in elementary school. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:34, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Edits are edits my friend. Thank you to Scraw for saying that. I joined at the time i did but that doesnt mean i didnt know my history which you seem not to know if you had no idea about the Triple Entente. I'm not one to start inter-wiki wars so i'll just leave you with this: Be a good little Liberia and help your nation out before anything or you'll end up being ruled by someone a couple thousand miles away in a little building called Buckingham Palace:)AP 03:38, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Better make that TWO people, on in a big house called Buckingham Palace and another in an equally big house kalled the Kremlin. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:41, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

No way you can take over Russia and Britain. You'd need war, and you'd lose the war.

We have a mathematical formula for the wars, called an algorithm. You'd lose in the algorithm.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:07, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

'''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. I LITERALLY SPIT WATER OUT WHEN I SAW YOUR POST. England was small BEFORE but it is now the world's strongest nation, the sun never sets on the British empire you know. However the sun does in fact set on Liberia everyday and that will be your only form of light until like the 90's so yeah you have NO chance taking over Britain or Russia. It horrifies me that you would think for a second that you could do so EVER in a million years. RUSSIA OH NO THE LIBERIANS ARE OUT TO DESTROY OUR EMPIRES!'''

'''Holy crud England! Quickly! Get a draft! Put every soul in our countries into the military! Our puny force cannot match Liberia's superior might! (I'm being sarcastic, just so ya know.) lol Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:33, June 29, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''There is no more arguing here. The bottom line is : You will never even scratch Britain or Russia, you'll crash and burn and become a colony. But who cares? Why? Because you can consider yourself banned from TE vs CP for being annoyingly implausible.'''

Avaro
Fancey an alliance with Egypt?90.244.92.117 00:33, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Tonga
So long as you follow both the protocol for the timeline, and the rules of the wiki, then yes. Lordganon 03:14, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I should also add to this - if you don't want to have to do much research, Tonga is not an article you'd want. It's a pretty big player, far larger than its size would suggest, in the modern world atl. Lordganon 05:34, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

DD
No articles will ever get deleted.

You nay be able to adopt articles from someone, or have a new proposal. There's still plenty of space - you just need to look into the areas a bit better.

If you've any areas in mind, ask me and I can give you info on the area.

Lordganon (talk) 03:23, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well, remember that the map is a bit out of date. Add to that that most of the area is under the control of the local powers - basically, the Siberians have been taking over those in areas near their territory, and another pair of areas form supply lines for their troops in Aralia and their allies in northwestern Afghanistan. Iran and the MLA have been doing the same near their borders, or have explored them.

About the only part of Central Asia that might work is on the coast of the Caspian Sea in Mangystau Province, Kazakhstan. Should be far enough from all parties.

Lordganon (talk) 03:58, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Have a look at the article histories next time, lol.

Both articles are Oer's. While you won't be able to take them over, if you ask nicely he might let you work on them a bit.

Lordganon (talk) 08:52, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Viva, that would not even remotely be ok. Doesn't make any sense, either. Lordganon (talk) 20:02, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Not only do you need to respect and keep what is there, within reason, but that move negates more or less everything already written about those areas, kills off the WAU and LoN, and screws western Africa. Moreover, that empire has been dead and buried for a century, and had nothing to do with anyone outside of a small area of Ghana besides having taken them over. Lordganon (talk) 20:14, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Err.... no, it is not an autonomous region, at all. The former heads of the empire - now only referred to as the "King of the Ashanti" - now only holds ceremonial power over his people. He's like the kings present throughout Africa, and indeed much of the world, today - no power, only ceremonial purposes, and recognized as having a special "historical" role in their history and culture. He doesn't even have a "major impact" in the matter. Like I said, dead and buried for a century. Lordganon (talk) 22:25, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Never used the word "centuries" at all. And the Ashanti are a people who conquered - outside of a small area of Ghana no one had much of anything to do with them.

Irregardless, your proposed idea of reviving that empire is not possible. I've given you the reasons.

Lordganon (talk) 22:56, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

...You're not quite getting the point.

Their accomplishments are irrelevant.

The Tectonic Knights were Germanic "crusaders" - and unlike what you're attempting to propose, were not revered at all in the areas that they conquered. In Germany, they were. Big difference.

The Ashanti are one tribe out of many in that area. And not in charge, either, for that matter.

The Russians were not a conquered people. The Chinese were not, either - look at how things turned out when it was "conquered," with the "conquerors" becoming Chinese in all but name within a couple of years. And no, the Americans were not "conquered." Not even remotely.

Lordganon (talk) 02:00, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

No, you're definitely not getting it - though now I know that some bias is the reason why. You need to learn to look past that.

The Russians were not conquered. Not by the Tartars, not by the Mongols, not by anyone. Defeated several times? Sure. But "conquered?" Not in the least. And only some were defeated. Have another look at what the terms mean.

If you'd read the "history book" you'd find that the Mongols - and later, the Manchu - had become Chinese in all but name within a couple of years of "taking over." Chinese fashion, Chinese culture, Chinese writing, you name it, they adopted it. Like the Romans and the Greeks, they "took over," but the locals conquered them instead.

Ghana and Togo are not Ashanti, or even "Ashanti-majority." The Ashanti are a tribe of the "Akan" people, and pretty much only inhabit parts of central Ghana. And, overall, they are, in the highest estimates, about 19% of the overall population of that country. Add another three million, at most, in the Ivory Coast. There are, for all purposes, none in Togo.

There are more than a hundred separate ethnic groups in these two states. And the Ashanti only form part of one of these groups. Most people were conquered by them. They hold no such affinity, as you claim, to the Ashanti. It's like claiming that the Finns and Russians have a "affinity" to each other - it's just not true.

So, no - your statements are false.

As for your idea.... While I applaud you for coming up with a new idea, you will not be adding any part of it.

They are separate nations, and republics at that. Moreover, you will not be able to change any of what the pages already say. Little thing called "rules" and "canon," Viva.

Lordganon (talk) 05:19, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Spread of Communism
I need you to tell everybody this because for some reason i can't edit the page

PEOPLE ETHIOPIA IS A MEMBER OF GUD! HOW ARE YOU ATTACKING THEM, THEY WERE ALWAYS HISTORICALLY PRO-WEST. IT'S A WAR OF IRREDENTISM. BY DOING THIS YOU'RE ONLY GIVING THE COMMUNISTS HELP.YOU SHOULD BE HELPING ETHIOPIA NOT SUDAN--AP (un-caps lock the whole thing my bad).AP (talk) 18:24, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Seven Years War
THE MAP GAME HAS BEGUN! --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 00:53, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Refer to the end of my last post. I said no responses. And Great Britain has the world's 7th largest economy, considerably less than when it was a superpower but still a major world power. And its military is strong and retains a presence worldwide. Times do change which is why Empires collapsed and the US became a superpower. Clearly you have no idea what you're saying. You are just an African wank. And if you don't know what that means, it's when a person is fixated on a particular region/country and makes it implausibly powerful and large(which you have done or at least tried on several map games, don't deny it i see it all the time). And before you go saying that i'm a British wank, i'll have you know i'm Peruvian and French, and the French even though we have excellent relations with the UK traditionally still have a rivalry with them. This time, no responses let it go.AP (talk) 17:12, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Guess what? My research shows that the sun never sets on the Russian Empire either! Take that AP!

In other words, sure as hell you are never going to conquer us. So what if things change over time? We're not to the point yet where Britain is out of power and America is the sole superpower. In fact, that will never happen in this game. After World War II, a Cold War between America, Germany, and Russia does Yoda see. Tell you once did I not, that size matters not? Small England may be, large Russia may be, but strong they are. Seen I have I in all map games try to make poor, weak, corrupt African nations into world superpowers. An African wank you are.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:00, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

One game it is not. All games it is. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:51, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Let me tell you that on this wiki we have one fellow who is an actual historian and several people who are intending on majoring in history in college and others who are intent on doing so and are sort-of half-historians. I am one of them. Think not that I focus on America and the Motherland, I can lecture you on all of history since the Middle Ages. Everything. From microstates like San Marino to superpowers like America and from ancient nations and tribes like the Tatars and the Teutonic Knights to modern day nations like France and from relatively unknown African tribal nations to the big names in history like Hitler and Nazi Germany. In SoCR you continue to act as if South Sudan is a part of Ethiopia when it is a completely seperate nation. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Who's to say Liberia can't do it? Everyone except you. I once told you, we have a formula to solve wars, and I do mock formulas ahead of time and you would lose every single war you would wage in TEvsCP.

Who'd have thought one Corsican guy could conquer Europe? A good handful of the King's advisors.

Now then, I have no time left to argue with you as the time to sleep has come in the American Motherland City so I will leave it to AP to argue with you in the morning.

And for the heck of it, know that I have African blood in me, although it is a small fraction compared to the great Asian blood, so I think it is obvious that I would not have bias against African countries. Facts are facts my friend, and there is no denying them.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:58, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

African Nations in Map Games
I've noticed that you often play as African nations in map games, but are often limited by the fact that many of those games start after European dominance has begun, so Africa cannot get that powerful. However, in a month and a half, Principia Moderni II is going to begin. Currently, our map is being updated, so the exact nations might change somewhat, but at the moment there are 28 African nations, 5 groups of African city-states, and 13 large tribes which you can sign up for now for when the game begins. Since Principia Moderni II will begin in 1450, no single area has global dominance yet, so having a strong African nation, maybe even with colonies, is not implausible. If you are interested, click on the link and choose any nation, city-state group, or tribe. Just look them up first to make sure they were existant in 1450, because our map is being updated. It begins in a month and a half, so if you haven't decided yet, you have plenty of time to think/change your mind (same thing for the nations, you can change what nation you are signed up as until you actually post as them). LurkerLordB (Talk) 04:02, July 20, 2012 (UTC)