User:Mscoree/Government Simulation

This is a page for the government simulation.

Please see the original blog post for more information.

Members

 * Mscoree
 * Ratc3333
 * Memester
 * Spartian300
 * Octivian Marius
 * Bfoxius
 * NonEuclidean
 * Tr0llis
 * Monster Pumpkin
 * UglyTurtle
 * Reximus55
 * Feudalplague
 * Imp
 * Local
 * FS
 * Scraw
 * Andrew
 * Guns
 * Crim
 * CourageousLife
 * UT
 * Viva
 * Ninja
 * Scarlet
 * Rcchang
 * Willster22
 * Blocky858
 * Andr3w777
 * LightningLynx89

Current Government
Executive Branch
 * President - Mscoree (Progressive)
 * Vice President - Monster Pumpkin (Progressive)

Legislative Branch



Extension Act

 * Proposed by: Mscoree
 * Text: Content for the government simulation will be moved or linked to a new user extension page, and all future government simulation information will be presented there, or linked there (this page).
 * Votes:
 * Aye
 * Mscoree (talk)
 * phyrexia_symbol.png Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes phyrexia_symbol.png
 * CourageousLife (talk) 22:43, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oct
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * Discussion

Voting Ammendment

 * Proposed by: Local
 * Text: Following the Controversial result in the January Election, I propose that the Senate and Presidential Votes are seperated.
 * Votes:
 * ​Aye
 * Mscoree (talk) 22:40, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * CourageousLife (talk) 22:43, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * The Mighty One (Guns)
 * Oct (i refuse to accept that he even thought that).
 * Shadow
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * So this means that in future elections there will be three lines instead of two. Mscoree (talk) 22:40, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. It means that the votes for Senate and President are seperate, not combined. Still 2 lines, not 3.
 * Yes, so three lines in total. Before there was on for seante/president.
 * No. There will be fave candidate and fave party. The fave party vote ONLY counts for senate. The fave candidate vote ONLY counts for president. TWO lines.  01:12, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah so three in total. The two you just descibed and the vote for president. Mscoree (talk) 03:01, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * HOW IS THAT THREE IN TOTAL??? The Fave Candidate IS the vote for President!
 * Vote for president, vote for senate, vote for party. Three lines. Mscoree (talk) 01:12, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * The vote for party is the same thing as the vote for senate? It's combined into one line... You have candidate- vote for president and party- vote for senate. TWO LINES.
 * Ms. It would have the same amount of lines.:
 * President Vote: Mr Example
 * Senate Vote: The Example Party
 * AND THAT'S IT.
 * Thank you, Local.
 * It needs to be three, like below. Mscoree (talk) 01:05, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * President Vote: Mr Example
 * Senate Vote: The Example Party
 * Favorite Political Party: Example Party
 * There is currently a separate bill to decided this two or three line issue. Please note that this vote is only to separate president and senate votes. Mscoree (talk) 01:28, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Senate Vote: The Example Party
 * Favorite Political Party: Example Party
 * There is currently a separate bill to decided this two or three line issue. Please note that this vote is only to separate president and senate votes. Mscoree (talk) 01:28, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Establishment of a Head of Governement(Head of the Legislature)

 * Proposed by: LxCaucassus
 * Text: The Position of Head of the Legislature will be established as the person who can best maintain the confidence of the Senate, the Prime Minister, First Senator, or whatever name we decide to give the position will be as a rule of thumb the leader of the Majority or Plurality factions or coalition. (in further text, the Head of the Legislature shall henceforth be refered to in thsi bill as the Prime Minister or the PM
 * The PM is appointed by the President, however, the president may not appoint someone as the Prime Minister if he or she can not maintain the confidence of the Senate, as the senate must approve of the apointment.
 * The PM shall maintain his position untill he or she can no longer form a governement.
 * The PM should be the head(leader) of a Party or an Independant candidate. While it is not impossible for a Senator that is a member of a party to become PM, it would not come as a surprise if he/she can not form a governemenet when asked. However it is much more feasable for Independant members to become leaders of coalitions, dont be so quick to dismiss them.
 * If, after the Election, no one faction has control of a majority of the Senate(Hung PArliment in Brittish terms, Minority Governement in canadian), Then the first person that should be asked by the president to form a governement is the former prime minister(the former PM has "first dibs" on forming a coalition). If, however, the former PM fails to either form a coalition, or have the rest of parliment not vote against his appointment, then the President should ask the next person he/she believes to have the largest chance of forming a governement( usualy the leader of the Plurality/Majority party or coalition leaders) to do so.
 * During a Majority Governement, where a party has control of more than 50% of seats, then the president must appoint the leader of the majority party as doing what is stated above, if the incumbent is defeated, is simply unnecessary redundancy.
 * If, in a Minority situation(hung parliment), the PM looses a confidence motion, then the President may either look to the oposition, or call a legislative election. However, in the case that nobody can maintain the confidence of the house, an election must be called to reshuffle the balance of power in the Senate in hopes that a party can, after the election, gain the confidence of the Senate.
 * Votes:
 * ​Aye
 * -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag.png 01:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Mscoree (talk) 02:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * phyrexia_symbol.png Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes phyrexia_symbol.png
 * Shadow
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * Interesting idea. So this new position is basically the speaker of the house (I feel that would be a more appropriate name), and leads the senate, if I understand correctly. 01:13, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Kind of, but the speaker of the house moderates discussions, calles votes, etc... and can just be some random guy that has the tiebreaking vote. The Prime Minister would be the "Leader" of the Senate and is responsible for, well, taking care of the Senate and leading comprimises and meeting with the opposition and esentialy everything. And I want to shy away from Speaker of the House as a name becasue I want to distance this whole thing from the American System, as in the US the President acts as both Head of Governement and Head of State. In the future as this whole governement simulation evolves, we should add responsibilities related to both the President and PM and see them as co-rulers, one representing the legislature(and perhaps parties that do not put out candidates) and rerpresenting the past vote...I hope everyone unbderstood what I mean... -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag.png 01:41, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * After talking in chat with Lx I have agreed to the creation of this new position; a prime minister who leads the senate. Mscoree (talk) 02:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * After talking in chat with Lx I have agreed to the creation of this new position; a prime minister who leads the senate. Mscoree (talk) 02:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Party Representation Clause

 * Proposed by: Mscoree
 * Text: With a proposal already created to separate the presidential and senatorial vote, there currently is a disagreement as to whether or not there should be three lines or two, meaning whether or not we should continue mixed member proportional. Having a vote for party, not just president and senate, would mean that the little parties would still get representation, encouraging political diversity and eliminating the spoiler effect. We propose therefore that we should use three lines.
 * Votes:
 * Aye
 * Mscoree (talk) 01:22, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * phyrexia_symbol.png Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes phyrexia_symbol.png
 * Shadow
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * I suppose I am just confused as to what this vote does? Does an "aye" vote have the effect of having 3 lines, and a "nay" vote have the effect of having 2 lines? 05:00, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. Mscoree (talk) 11:37, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. Mscoree (talk) 11:37, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Registration Act

 * Proposed by: Mscoree
 * Text: New procedures will be created for the registration of official parties. All parties founded after the passing of this legislation will require a minimum of five members, as well as a fully developed section on the page and beliefs section. New parties will also require three days of graduation period before being officially registered. Once registered, official parties will be allowed to nominate candidates for president, while other organizations may not.
 * Votes:
 * Aye:
 * Scarlet Outlaw
 * Cookie Damage Cookiedamage (talk) 01:08, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * FirstStooge (talk) 01:50, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nay:
 * I vote no with rights. While not sure if I still have a vote, considering the fact that I was (and still am, technically) a Senator, I am opposed to this legislation because it prevents last minute political shifts to be recognized. For example, the merger between the Libs and the Nullies was under 3 days before the election (if I remember correctly) and would not have been recognized, thereby disallowing the Progs from running a candidate. Additionally, the wording of this legislation implies that a candidate must be nominated for the Presidency, something I completely disagree with. Partisanship is being embedded in this seemingly harmless piece of legislation. 02:15, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Willster22 Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 02:47, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I vote No. It is not the place of the government to tell people who to vote for, next thing you know, the progs could "pass" a law that outlaws all but there own. I do not support this blatant infringment upon everyone's inherit rights. We Will not tolerate a government that attempts to shackle the people!---Andrew Tardis.pngS-Y!!,Basically, RUN!!Tardis.png 02:49, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'am a nay sayer, LightningLynx89
 * Sky Green 24 08:58, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Rules

 * Each election cycle consists of a debate, election, and a term.
 * Parties must register to be come an official party before the first phase of the cycle (by the debate) by making a comment here listing their party, leader, ideologies, stance, and nominee.
 * When in office legislature can be proposed by members of the government which can amend or create rules/practices for this simulation.
 * Any registered party member, who belongs to a party with representation in the government may propose legislature. Anyone in a represented party may vote.
 * If a party has more members than it does seats in the government than its members must come to some sort of agreement before voting on legislature.
 * Votes for legislature will be counted up so that the ratio of votes for a party are proportional to the number of seats that party has. If a party has twenty seats and they vote three yes and one no than that equals fifteen and five votes.
 * Once proposed legislature has one week to be voted upon.