Romae Delenda Est (Map Game)

Hello and Welcome to Romae Delenda Est, or Rome is to be destroyed. This is a new map game that will begin in 205 BC, after the end of the Second Punic War in which Hannibal has achieved a great victory against the young Roman Republic. This map game is here to discover the enormous changes in history, technology, cultures, architecture, and life that would result from a Carthaginian Victory in the Second Punic War.

'''Announcement: With renewed interest in the game we will be accepting people reserving spots as well as fill ins for new moderators. -Feud'''

 "Alea iacta est" - The die is cast - Julius Caesar

POD
The point of divergence is in 218 BC, when Carthaginian military genius Hannibal crossed the Alps with an invasion army meant for Rome. In the crossing he lost men, elephants, siege equipment and morale, but managed to fight Rome victoriously until 214 BC, when he was was subject to the Fabian strategy of attrition and was forced to leave Rome to defend Carthage.

In this timeline, Hannibal manages to secure alliances with the Macedonians, Syracusians, and Gallic tribes to the North of Rome. The Gallic tribes no longer block his path and harass his armies, the Macedonians take on the Roman navy in the Adriatic and war against Roman lands in Illyria, and help bolster the Carthaginian ranks. The Sycracusians revolted against Roman client status, and aided the Carthaginians both navally and on land, securing Hannibal's support from the Carthaginian state, which leads to another Carthaginian army invading from Sicily. While Hannibal warred against Rome, Rome sent its own invasion forces toward Carthaginian Iberia, and began their own sieges and such there in contrast to Hannibal's actions in Italy. As both sides held important lands to each other, but with Hannibal being more favorable in terms of captured holdings than Rome, a peace was called and agreed upon in 210 BC.

Carthage exists, Rome is weak, and the world rises without a stronger Rome to enforce the same Western culture we know and live with today.

Rules
 Romae Delenda Est (Map Game)  

Mods

 * Co-Creator/Head Mod: EiplecOco (talk)


 * Co Creator/Second Mod: Feudalplague (talk)


 * Third Mod: CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 03:23, June 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Other Third Mod: With Blood and Iron (talk) 17:13, June 13, 2014 (UTC) if accepted


 * Other Other Third Mod:

Map Makers




Historical Mods
Their job is to ensure that plausibility is followed by players of the respective area they signed up for.
 * North American:
 * South American:
 * Middle East:
 * Asia:
 * Oceania:
 * Europe:

Grammar Nazis
Their job is to ensure that posts are clearly readable and will fix major misspellings and grammar errors.


 * 1)  Kurt Cobain&#39;s Haircut (talk)
 * 2) Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Algorithm Mod
Their job is to ensure algorithms are completed correctly and their results are followed.
 * 1)  &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk)

Timeline Mod
'Their job is to ensure the timeline page has relevant and up-to-date information and may need to add in important events that players do not add. (It is not their job to add all events of a player's turn, just important ones a player may forget to add.)'

Nations
Be aware that this is 205 BC and many nations will emerge on their own between now and the end of the game!

Iberian Tribes

 * Lusitani:
 * Gallaeci:
 * Astures:
 * Vaccaei:
 * Cantabrians:
 * Vascones:
 * Volcae:
 * Iacetani:
 * Caristii:
 * Celtiberi:
 * Carpetani:
 * Vettones:
 * Celtici:
 * Turduii:
 * Turmodigi:

Gallic Nations

 * Averni: I am that guy (talk) 23:20, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Allobroges:  I am that guy (talk) 23:20, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ruteni:  I am that guy (talk) 23:20, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cotti:
 * Raetians:
 * Cispaline:
 * Helveti: 14:34, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sequani:  14:34, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Belgae: Mr YOLO (talk) 17:35, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Remi: Mr YOLO (talk) 17:35, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Meridi: Mr YOLO (talk) 17:35, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Pictones:
 * Santones:
 * Aulerci:
 * Lingones:
 * Leuci:
 * Volcae:
 * Aquaitani:
 * Lemovices:
 * Veneti:
 * Aremorio:
 * Alurci:
 * Carnutes:
 * Bituriges:
 * Cubi:
 * Celtica:
 * Treveri:
 * Galatia:

Germanic Tribes

 * Saxon Tribes: With Blood and Iron (talk) 17:28, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Frisii:
 * Teutones:
 * Semnones:
 * Burgundians:
 * Cotini:
 * Quadi:
 * Carpi:
 * Suevi:
 * Chatti:
 * Siambri:
 * Marcomanni:
 * Noricum:
 * Langobardi:
 * Vandall:
 * Rugii:

Illyrian Nations

 * Kingdom of Illyria: WHY seriously why???!!! 14:16, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Scordisci:
 * Panonni:

Scandinavian Tribes

 * Cimbri: Scarlet Outlaw
 * Sviones: Tardis.pngS-Y!!,Basically, RUN!!Tardis.png 20:15, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Finns:
 * Sitones:
 * Saami:
 * Suomi Tribedom:
 * Karelian Tribes: [[Image:Flag of Russian Alaska (HR).svg |40px|link=User talk:Octivian Marius]] OCT MARIUS, HAIL HIM  [[Image: Flag of Italy (Federalist Italy).svg|40px|User talk:Octavian Marius]]
 * Tavastian Tribes:

Black Sea Nations

 * Getae:
 * Scythia Minor:
 * Tyras:
 * Tylus:
 * Roxolani
 * Iazygaes
 * Olbia:
 * Bosphorus:
 * Sarmatians:
 * Scythian Neopolis:
 * Melanchaeni:
 * Amazones:
 * Bastarnae:

Dacian Nations

 * Aureliani:
 * Albocensii:
 * Maluensis:
 * Alupensis:
 * Potulatensii:

Baltic Tribes

 * Venedae:
 * Navari:
 * Yotvingian Tribes:
 * Old Prussia: Dr Cow Andrew (talk) 22:35, June 13, 2014 (UTC) So I am the only one who controls Konigsberg? YOU'RE RIGHT!
 * Livonians:

Caucasian Nations

 * Maeotae:
 * Siraces:
 * Legae:
 * Albanians:
 * Iberia:
 * Colchis:
 * Apaslacae:
 * Aorsi:
 * Alans:
 * Lastae:

Britannic Nations

 * Ordovices:
 * Brigantes: Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)
 * Carvetii: Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)
 * Parisi: Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)
 * Caledoni:
 * Iceni:
 * Trinovantes:
 * Dumnoni:
 * Silures:
 * Catuvellauni:
 * Atrebates:
 * Cantiaci:
 * Durotriges:
 * Regnenses:
 * Dobunni:
 * Cornovii:
 * CorieltauvI:
 * Caereni:
 * Carnonacae:
 * Cornovii:
 * Creones:
 * Damnonii:
 * Decantae:
 * Epidii:
 * Lugi:
 * Novantae:
 * Selgovae:
 * Smertae:
 * Taexali:
 * Vacomagi:
 * Venicones:
 * Votadini:

Celtic Nations

 * Hiberni:
 * Elbani:
 * Nagnatae:
 * Robogdi:

Hellenic Nations

 * Macedonian Empire: (Whoever removed my name do not do it again!)
 * Epirus: (Under Macedonian influence)
 * Thrace: (Uder Macedonian influence)
 * Aetolian League:
 * Achean League: (Under Macedonian influence)
 * Pontus:
 * Pergamon:
 * Bythinia:
 * Byzantium:
 * Syracuse:

Latin Nations

 * Roman Republic: Tr0llis (talk) 21:13, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Massalia:
 * Ligurians:
 * Veneti:

Hellenic Nations

 * Pontus:
 * Ptolemaic Egypt: CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 20:19, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Seleucids: Ozymandias2 (talk) 22:15, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Atropatanae:
 * Armenia:
 * Commagene:
 * Cappadocia:
 * Sophene:
 * Papalagonia:
 * Atropatene:
 * Crete:
 * (Sorry Daes, a majority wanted a restart, so the Kingdom of Judea does not exist at this time. Also, yes, you can be a mod, just add your name to the list, and please pick another nation because I'd love to still have you in the game. &#34;SO SAYETH THE EAGLE&#34; - Fascist Eagle ಠ_ಠ (talk)) Daeseunglim (talk)

Arabian Nations

 * Arabian Tribes:
 * Atropatene:
 * Gerrha:
 * Mazun
 * Hadramaut:
 * Qataban:
 * Saba:
 * Nabataea:
 * Agraci:
 * Scintes:

Punic Nations

 * Republic of Carthage: EiplecOco (talk)
 * East Numidia:
 * West Numidia:
 * Mauretania:

East African Nations

 * Daamat: Stephanus rex (talk) 00:21, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Axum: (NK seems to think this did not exist in 200 BCE so I switched to the nation that evolved into it - Daamat.)
 * Cushitic Peoples:
 * Fur Tribes:
 * Begans:
 * Blemmyes:
 * Nilotic Peoples:
 * Ethiopian Highlanders:
 * Eastern Bantu Tribes:
 * Khosian Peoples:

West African Tribes

 * Western Bantu Tribes:
 * Korsian Peoples:
 * Northwestern Bantu Tribes:
 * Nok Culture: Flag of the Hurian Federation.png Vivaporius:  "I don't need a slogan"  21:31, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Kwa:
 * Gur:
 * Chadians:
 * Mande Peoples:
 * Soninke:
 * West Atlantic Peoples:
 * Igbo:

North African Nations

 * Mauri (Moors):
 * Gaetulians:
 * Musulami:
 * Garamantes:
 * Libyans:

Western Asia Nations

 * Indo-Scythians:
 * Apaslacae:
 * Kwarezm:
 * Chien-Kun:
 * Hsin-Ii:
 * Ungrian Peoples:
 * Samoyed Peoples:
 * North Sakas:
 * Tibetan Peoples: This is UglyTurtle, Signing off. 22:56, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Tarim Basin City-States:
 * Wusun:
 * Tochari:
 * Gaoche (Dingling):

Hellenic Nations

 * Parthia: Fed  (talk)  03:16, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Greco-Bactria:

Indo-Greek Nations

 * Indo-Greek Empire:
 * Kashmir:
 * Arachosia:
 * Taxlla:
 * Paropamisus:

Indian Nations

 * Magadha Empire: Two wrongs may not make a right,  but it makes me feel a lot better in the end!  21:14, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Puzhindau:
 * Cheras:
 * Ay:
 * Pandyas:
 * Vijadharas:
 * Kongu:
 * Cholas:
 * Monyul:
 * Pragjyotisa:
 * Vanga:
 * Manipur:

East Asian Nations

 * Han China:
 * Dingyue
 * Yamato Japan: -Seiga
 * Ainu Japan:
 * Kyushu:
 * Gojoseon:
 * Ye:
 * Jin:
 * Xiongnu Khanate:
 * Kyrgyz:
 * Buyeo:
 * Yemaek:
 * Okieo:
 * Yilou:
 * Mohe Tribes:
 * Tungusic Peoples:
 * Nivkhs:
 * Oroks:
 * Emishi:
 * Ryukyuans:
 * Liao:
 * Chiang:
 * Chiung:
 * Minyue:

South-East Asian Nations

 * Dhingyawati:
 * Pyu Peoples:
 * Di Peoples:
 * Burmans:
 * Mon-Khmer Peoples:
 * Sa Huynh Culture:
 * Nanyue (Nam Viet):
 * Oc Eo Culture:
 * Malays: For the glory of the Netherlands (talk) 14:32, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Oceanic Nations

 * Australian Aborigines:
 * Papuans:
 * Jawa-Dwipa:
 * Melanesians:
 * Polynesians:
 * Maori:

Western Tribes

 * Anasazi:
 * Hohokam:
 * Mogollon:
 * Numa (Shoshone) Tribes: Kurt Cobain&#39;s Haircut (talk)
 * Chihuahua Tribes:

Hopewell (Mississippian) Tribes

 * Ohio Tribes:
 * Swift Creek Tribes:
 * Marksville Tribes:
 * Crab Orchard Tribes:
 * Havana Tribes:
 * Saugeen Tribes:
 * Laurel Tribes:

Canadian Tribes

 * St Johns Tribes:
 * Dorset Tribes:

South and Central America

 * Teotihuacan:
 * Canaris Tribes: Krasnoyarsk 11:45, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Guyanese Tribes:
 * Mayan City-states: LightningLynx89
 * Mextec City-state:
 * Zapoltec City-state:
 * Tarascan City-State:
 * Totonac City-State:

205 BC
Ending with a favorable peace with the Illyrians and Rome, Philip V of Macedon sets his sights on both Illyria and Greece, both of which have now lost the support of Rome.

After his heroic victories against Rome, and his charisma, Hannibal Barca of Carthage is voted into the Carthaginian Suffet, alongside Hasdrupal Gisco.

Antiochus III crushes revolts of governors of Media, Persia, and Anatolia, now asserts himself the title of "great king", and the Greeks, comparing him to Alexander the Great, surname him "the Great", as Antiochus III Megas.

Ptolemy IV of Egypt dies and is succeeded by his five year old son Ptolemy V. However, no public announcements are made of the King's death.

"Cry, havoc, and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, Caesar, Shakespeare


 * Seleucids: With the recent removal of rebellious governors the military is expanded to handle future potential revolts better. Antiochus III issues the creation of a new administrative system which would help reduce potential threats as well as benefit the Empire overall.
 * Yamato Japan: Yamato begins to build up its military. Meanwhile, a palace around OTL Toyooka, Hyōgo begins to be built.
 * There is no point system in this incarnation of RDE, simply because it turns into a basic arms race and breeds too much competition and out-of-game arguments, so this RDE is running on the PMIII system of mil, econ and infra build up. - Eip
 * Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't sure if we were still using it, so that's why I put the number in it. -Seiga
 * Saxon Tribes: The population of the diverse villages and settlements of the Saxon continue to grow as farms and alliances begin to form throughout the region. Iron weapons and tools slowly become common place mainly in the form of crude spears due to a lack of more iron (pre-Roman iron age in the Germanic lands was between 400-100 B.C.E. though it was very primitive) and those who are proficient in iron working become highly valued in their respective communities. fishing and trading in the north sea becomes increasingly important in the local villages along the coastline, and interaction with other Germanic tribes both on the continent and in Scandinavia grows. Worship of the Germanic gods mainly Wodin (more commonly known as Odin from old Norse mythology) and Doar (also known as Thor) continue grow and solidify as the common beliefs of the Saxon people (the Nordic gods were worshiped by all Germanic people until the rise of Christianity. Look it up if you don't believe me - under Germanic Mythology). And they start to become more concrete and streamline in certain villages. The tribes on the Elbe River grow and slowly expand along the river within the territories dominated by the Saxon tribes. Stories of the great civilizations to the south become ever more common amongst the villages and their elders. Under the current Chieftain/king Ansgar the Saxon tribe begins to spread out in the region establishing more communities and farms.
 * Sarmatians: Amongst the dozens of Khanates that patrol this region that was once part of the Scythian Empire, a Khan names Reza Shahin is a bit greedy and likes Southern ways of life more. The Khan manages to convince his decently-sized Khanate of about 400 people to settle in the southern regions not far from our other Scythian brothers in the popular trade region of Neapolist. They begin to farm some cattle for dairy, and many seeds are tilled, primarily wheat, as the Reza Shahin would like his tribe to make use of the breadbasket that most people of Scythian descent didn't even consider farming. The Reza Shahin decides makes clear his plans to want to make the his people compared the other Sarmatians (generally speaking Sarmatians prospered, in terms of wealth) and also decides to buy some wine and olive seeds, to help in future endeavors. Reza Shahin also begins a policy of hiring Scythian mercenaries (quite popular at the time in just about everywhere for their bad-assery) to raid caravans coming south full of Slavic slaves, and as the slaving business was quite lucrative in Eastern Europe, Reza Shahin wants to tap into that trade, and begins to sell captured slaves and their slavers to southerners.
 * Swede Tribes: The Swedes continue to expand power and influence in the region, Iron weapons and tools start to gain prominence. Villages along the coasts continue to see surpluses in fish. The tribes begin to contemplate closer centralization . The Old Norse Gods are continuously worshiped, with a new temple being erected. More may follow ...
 * There is no need for centralization at the present and there is no outside influence that would establish centralization just yet. Also, north of the Germanic tribes iron weapons were even more scarce then they were in Germania - only in the form of crude spears as in Germania. With Blood and Iron (talk) 02:06, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * In Han China, Emperor Gaozu begins consolidation of non-Han Chinese lands. To this end, he develops the economy through innovative road construction and farming techniques. Economic development encourages closer ties of other nations, such as Nam Viet (Nanyue) and Gojoseon. Meanwhile, Dingyue and Han China send an expedition to Taiwan. Salt mining is made much easier by new iron tools, and the Emperor continues to fund creation of more and more iron refineries. The silk trade continues to fill the coffers of Gaozu, and he decides to continue construction of the Great Wall of China but with paid employees. Population continues to rise at a rapid rate and the economy is growing quite rapidly. Many view Gaozu as a great emperor, and he is definitely much more liked than his predecessor, Qin Shi Huangdi. We seek out alliances with Nanyue (Nam Viet) and Gojoseon, promising immense riches and increased relations and trade. (MODS)
 * Cimbri: Felix Torben becomes king of our nation. We continue to expand power and influence the region the full extent . Iron weapons and tools start to become popular within our nation. Fishing and farming are our most important industries at this time. Danish tribes start to unify to form one powerful nation. We expand our military and navy. battleships made out of strong wood are being built. New temples to worship the Old Norse Gods are being built.
 * You're going to have to elaborate a whole lot more than that.
 * There is no need for centralization at the present and there is no outside influence that would establish centralization just yet. Also, north of the Germanic tribes iron weapons were even more scarce then they were in Germania, only in the form of crude spears as in Germania. With Blood and Iron (talk) 02:06, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Same thing here - only difference is that you would not have a king in a traditional sense we had "kings". You're even more disorganized then I am - not to mention you have no way to build battleships as that sort of concept was non-existent in Northern Europe at the time. With Blood and Iron (talk) 02:06, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ptolemaic Egypt: Ptolemy V quietly assumes the throne as Egypt expands its military, especially in the Judea region. The powerful navy is updated with better ships and more people as current ships are repaired due to weathering and barnacles that accumulate naturally. Ptolemaic Egypt works in improving its relations with the Seleucids and with Macedon, both powerful heirs to Alexander the Great's empire. Meroe is influenced as Egypt sends multiple trade deals their way, though a show of force against a neighboring tribe may speak a valid point as well. Egypt considers the various tribes to harass.
 * Fun Fact: Ptolemaic Egypt was the only country in history that would make prisoners oarsmen.
 * Please be elaborate with your influencing. We don't allow the Influence by turn. You need to actually secure trade agreements and prove yourself worthy of being their overlord. -Feud
 * THE VERY FACT THAT WE ARE EGYPTIAN PROVES US WORTHY OF BEING THEIR OVERLORDS AND MASTERS !!!
 * Magadha Empire: Military improves. Don't feel up to writing a turn right now.
 * Nok: The Nok expand their urbanized centers, seeking to increase the level of industry in their towns to prepare for expansion. One of their leaders proposes the idea to create paved roads between towns, stating that the rain and the weather make the dirt roads extremely difficult and hazardous to traverse at times. The formation of a military force for organized raiding and patrol of the rivers in the land is formed with many thousands of young warriors. They are given the job of moving about the lands of the Nok, and dealing with any who seek to harm the state. Elsewhere, the Nok begin expanding their fishing ventures, moving farther and farther out to sea to reach larger schools of fish in the water. As they do this, many agree that bigger canoes will be needed to prevent their vessels from sinking into the water due to low drafts.
 * Paved with what? You are still developing canoes, you probably couldn't even build a paved road system. Also the Nok people were living in Central-Northern Nigeria and not that close to the Niger, so why/how are you developing canoes? Also, I'm sorry, but a landlocked nation can not extend its fishing ventures farther out to sea. Kurt Cobain&#39;s Haircut (talk)
 * The map for the game clearly shows that I border the sea, and the Niger runs right through my lands. In fact, a spiffy little map on Wikipedia even shows the Nok lands on top of three major rivers. And logic on the roads says I would use stone since you know the Nok were advanced stone cutters. So that much should already be self-evident. Please uncross the post. ~Viva
 * There's a difference between paved and tiled by a lot. Also, I would feel the need to press the issue that the Nok don't control the coast and that the Igbo do and that the map is faulty, but I suppose you're more-or-less playing the cultural group of the region and it's 205 BCE so not much cultural divergence has likely occured,  I will back off on the issue of the coast. Kurt Cobain&#39;s Haircut (talk)
 * Thank you, Dax. ~Viva
 * Axum: Stelae rise across the kingdom, marking the ascendance of the new King Gadarat. The King builds his monuments, while pressuring the ship-builders to increase production and expand the merchant fleet. Trade expands as it should. An envoy is sent to Ptolemaic Egypt, requesting trade rights and a pact of peace (NAP).
 * Arsaces I of Parthia begins expanding his realm's military. The Shah sends an envoy to the Seleucid Empire, stating it must not fear invasion from the east, as Parthia will continue being loyal to the Seleucids as long as its independence is granted.
 * Macedon: With a favorable peace toward Macedon achieved the Kingdom itself begins to exhert its influence on the final remnants of independent Greece Now beginning to influence Epirus the Macedonian traders manage to secure a series of secret but perferential trade agreements with some of the high level Epirote trade forces in the nation. This does lead to a much needed warming of Epirote relations with Macedon as the Kings representative pays a specialized visit to the leader of Epirus King Phillip of Macedon also strengthens his alliance's ties and influence over the Achean league strengthening their alliance and sending some moderate funding to get their armed forces to remain in fighting order. King Phillip himself sits with a few magistrates of the kingdom as well as generals and draws up a plan for the next few decades looking to seal off the loose ends and take all the Greek cities by any means possible. The military itself is evaluated and a regular force of about 30,000 is able to be recruited for normal means and nearly 70,000 for emergencies. The Kingdom also begins to use its new naval developments to trade heavily with Carthage and Macedon aligned states. The Macedonian navy is evaluated at nearly 115 ships and Phillip wishes to expand it into a world renown naval power at some point in the future. Macedon also makes close contact with the Illyrians and the Thracians looking to set prepare them for later. Macedon requests a Carthaginian diplomat to discuss the terms of our continued friendship. The city of Halicarnassus (apparently I do own it, Crim) is also scheduled to be revamped and rebuilt to bring the city back to its former glory. Olympia is also restructured to be more efficient as a small Macedonian garrison of older veterans looks to train about 500 of the cities populace into a quick garrison unit to defend the city from incursions. The King of Macedon himself visits Byzantium with a retinue to establish relations with them but asks for a trade agreement instead (Granted) Phillip agrees that he will make a more meaningful trip in the coming months/years to increase his influence on the tiny city.
 * Carthaginian Dip: The Carthaginians send their previous diplomat sent to ally with Macedon before the Hannibalic War, Gisco the White, to discuss with Macedon.
 * Republic Of Carthage: With asserted hegemony over the Eastern Mediterranean following the successful capture of Sicily and the defeat of the Roman navy five years before, Carthage has reemerged as a prosporous trade-based republic. Hannibal Barca, and his fellow general in the Hannibalic War, Hasdrupal Gisco, are elected as Suffets of Carthage, who act as both the highest authority of the Republic and are voted for from the noble families of Carthage. In celebration of the fifth anniversary of their defeat of Rome, an obelisk, dedicated to Ba'al Hammon, is erected with a romaticised story of the Hannibalic War enscribed on it in Phoenician, where several goats are sacrificed soon afterward. Both Hannibal and Hasdrupal begin their rule as Suffets by increasing military patrols of Carthaginian trade waters in order to curb piracy and increase trade revenue. Furthermore, they oversee the granting of rule of Qart-Hadasht to Hannibal Barca's brother, Hasdrupal Barca, after the death of the previous governor, Mago the Fair. Hannibal Barca's other brother, Margo Barca, begins his travels through Iberia, Numidia, Maretania, and Syracuse, to get a better understanding of agricultural methods to better Carthage's agriculture. The Carthaginian capital of Carthaginian Sicily, Ziz (Palermo), disbands several mercenaries after paying them in full, leading to a larger population of people in Ziz. Hasdrupal Gisco offers his daughters, Sophonisba, hand in marriage to Syphax, the King of Western Numidia, in order to secure an alliance (Yes). The city of Carthage plans to undergo an expansion of the port to allow for more docked ships, both military and trade based. Finally, several Carthaginian diplomats are sent into Iberia to secure steady supplies if Iberian and Celtiberian Mercenaries (No).
 * Kingdom of Illyria: Worried about hellenization, people begin to reject it, in hopes of preserving their own culture.  Ships begin to be built, adding to both the navy and merchant ships that travel the Mediterranean. A law is passed requiring all healthy men to serve ten years in the Illyrian military. We send diplomats to the Seleucids and Romans asking for an alliance.
 * Alliances are required to be actually built up and worked into. No willy nilly (we ask for an alliance) you have to work your way into it. Not to mention you don't know the Seleucids exist, and Rome essentially no longer has any influence beyond its peninsula. This game requires much more detail than your run-of-the-mill map game.
 * Tibetan Peoples: With the Magadha Empire to the south of us and the newly formed Han Dynasty to the east of us we feel pressured to centralize and thus find common identity in animist Bon. With this Bonist villages are set up and Bonist Shamans are selected as the leaders of these villages. In the villages wheat and barley are harvested while yak, sheep,and goat herding continue to be the primary way of life. We ask for a non-aggression pact and a trade agreement with the Magadhan Empire.

​204.5 BC
''' The nations of Minyue and Gojoseon request trade agreements with the Chinese Han Empire. '''

''' The late Egyptian King Ptolemy IV's clique of favorites, led by Sosibius, Ptolemy's chief minister, keeps Ptolemy's death a secret, fearing retribution from the new king Ptolemy V's mother, Queen Arsinoe III. They arrange for the murder of Arsinoe, so as to keep the clique of favorites in the court of Ptolemy V. Due to Arsinoe's popularity, a few small riots break out in several large Ptolemaic cities, but quickly die down. '''

''' The favored bodyguard of the Chinese emperor Liu Bang, Fan Kuai, passes away. '''

''' After a few years of peace after the stalemate against Macedon and its allies, the Spartan King Nabis, goes to war with the Achaean League, bring much of the Pelopanese part of the Aetolian League into his war. '''

''' The Roman propraetor, Quintus Plemininlus, defeats a small rebellious group of Latins are Locri Epizephyrian. '''

 Parthian people, different from the Hellenic culture that rules over them, grow wary of their newly installed Hellenic ruler, Arsaces I. 

'"A tomb now suffices him for whom the whole world was not sufficient." - Alexander the Great, when speaking of Darius III, former Emperor.'
 * Cimbri: Bronze weapons and tools start to continue to become popular within our nation. Fishing and farming are our most important industries at this time. New temples to worship the Old Norse Gods are continuing to be built. Boats for trade and our navy are being built out of strong wood. We increase or military and navy by adding more men. Fensholt becomes the name of our capital city. Walls and outposts are being built around our capital city. Whale hunting is becoming popular within our nation. We ask the leader of the Saxon tribes for an alliance . We start to domesticate horses for our military.
 * Seriously Scarlet, look up the era. Horses were a southern thing at this time. They weren't introduced into the Germanic tribes until roughly the 120s after the Germanic wars with the southern tribes and nations began. Once more we Germanic tribes are not good at weapons making just yet. We need to interact with the south beforehand. You need to be in some sort of centralized civilization to be able to start constructing an army and navy, let alone outposts. We are still relatively barbaric - so to speak - in terms of power and influence. Wait until contact with the south begins which should be happening soon as the Germanic migrations are about to start in a few decades. With Blood and Iron (talk) 23:00, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Rome: The nation of Rome begins to recover from the costly war with Carthage. Although the end of the war is welcomed by the people of Rome, the effort is criticized for both political and moral reasons. Upon the Senate’s decree of a peace treaty with Carthage, politician Quintus Caecilius Metellus, said he did not look upon the termination of the war as a blessing to Rome, since he feared that the Roman people would now sink back again into its former slumbers, from which it had been roused by the presence of Hannibal. Quintus Caecilius Metellus leads a political campaign with this notion, but is defeated in his efforts to become Consul in 209 BC and again in 206 BC. A small group of senators rallies behind the idea that war should have been continued until Carthage could have been destroyed, citing success in Hispania as evidence to an eventual Roman victory. The most outspoken of this group is Marcus Porcius Cato, a politician from Tusculum, who feared that if Carthage was not completely destroyed it would soon regain its power and pose new threats to Rome. Cato is in the minority however, as more people are moved by the far more tangible evidence of Hannibal’s victories on the Italian Peninsula itself. Politically, middle ground is found in Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, a successful general from the war with Carthage who champions the idea of rebuilding Rome’s defenses and infrastructure, seeing first hand the capabilities of the Carthaginians. Similarly, Publius Licinius Crassus Dives, pontifex maximus, is chosen as Scipio’s co-consul. Licinius Crassus is known for being well-versed in pontifical law, reminding Roman citizens of their religious duties following the war with Carthage in an effort to being the country together through religion. As Pontifex Maximus Licinius Crassus spends his term in the Italian Peninsula, having famously reminded the elderly Princeps Senatus Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus in a debate that he was unable to leave Italy, whereas his co-consul Scipio suffered no such religious disability. Scipio pushes through a series of edicts in an effort to increase the rate of production in Rome and expedite the recovering process. Farms and villas on the Italian peninsula that were raided by Hannibal and the Carthaginian forces are rebuilt, helping to feed the population of the peninsula. Several outposts are established in the region manned by military units in an effort to calm the population and crack down on looting and other crimes following the war. This effort is largely successful, with public outlash subsiding. In 204 Marcus Cornelius Cethegus, a political ally of Scipio, is chosen as consul, possibly in an effort to continue down a similar path politically. Publius Sempronius Tuditanus is also elected as consul, having served successfully in the war against Carthage, famously leading about 600 men to safety at Cannae in August, 216 BC. Scipio steps down from politics from the time being, although still very much in the public eye. Cethegus appoints Scipio as general once again, and he begins training forces in Rome to protect against attack, using his experience in the war to push forth a series of reforms beneficial to the military. Noticing the strict rules for enlistment; recruits had to be a member of the fifth census class or higher, had to own property worth 3,500 sesterces in value, and had to supply his own armaments, Scipio begins a series of military reforms in an effort to increase professionalism within the Roman army and increase manpower. For the first time, the Roman landless masses, the capite censi, men who had no property to be assessed in the census are allowed into the military, despite owning no significant property. Scipio arranges for the state to supply his army with arms, eliminating the need for each man to provide their own armor and weapons, something unfeasible for Rome’s poorer citizens. These disenfranchised masses would be offered permanent employment and pay as professional soldiers, and the opportunity to gain spoils on campaign. With little hope of gaining status in other ways, the masses flock to join Scipio in his new army, heavily increasing reserves in case of war. Seeing the need for troops in case of renewed war with Carthage, the senate is happy to approve such changes. Ports and shipyards on the nation’s coast are rebuilt and refurbished to facilitate trade around the Mediterranean. A plan is conceived to halt Macedonian influence and power in the Balkans by creating a buffer between Rome and Greece. Rome offers Illyria a trade agreement, believing that such agreements would mutually benefit both states and adequately protect Rome against threats in the east. To protect our trade ships in the area and combat piracy in the Adriatic Sea, work begins on a larger military navy, replenishing numbers after the war. A large shipyard begins construction in Ostia, which is planned to be able to construct and maintain multiple ships at once. Because of the overall military focus of this six month period, this turn is dedicated to military.
 * It's a military turn, but you're changing Rome's military structure, building outposts, rebuilding farms and villages, expanding ports, and other things, in six months. Modern governments have trouble building a road in six months, let alone all that. It's all plausible, just too much in too little time, so pick and choose what you will do now and what you will do later. Also, the Kingdom of Illyria accepts the agreement. - Eip
 * For most of these I meant they are started or planned. Most of the things will take a very long time to be implemented or be completed. The military reforms for example were just me saying the legislation itself is passed. Will take years to actually get the system working and perfected. 
 * Ah, okay, (Instert thumbs up here). - Eip
 * Macedon: With a favorable peace toward Macedon achieved, the Kingdom itself begins to exhert its influence on the final remnants of independent Greece. King Phillip himself sits with a few magistrates of the kingdom as well as generals and draws up a plan for the next few decades looking to seal off the loose ends and take all the Greek cities by any means possible. The military itself is evaluated and a regular force of about 30,000 is able to be recruited for normal means and nearly 70,000 for emergencies. The Kingdom also begins to use its new naval developments to trade heavily with Carthage and Macedon aligned states. The Macedonian navy is expanded to nearly 130 ships purchasing many from the anatolian areas. Macedon also makes close contact with the Illyrians and the Thracians looking to set prepare them for later.  The city of Halicarnassus (apparently I do own it, Crim) is also under the beginnings of its rebuild to bring the city back to its former glory. Olympia is also restructured to be more efficient as a small Macedonian garrison of older veterans looks to train about 500 of the cities populace into a quick garrison unit to defend the city from incursions. The King pushes toward further appeasing Epirus into becoming a vassal as multiple state gifts are sent and a high level daughter of Macedon is sent to marry the heir/king of Epirus (whichever's available) (Epirus is a Leagic state, since the death of Deidamia II in 233. However, I will give you a royal marriage with a high level member of the ruling Molossian group that leads the City-State, due to Macedon and Epirus's past interactions before the game.) in order to secure further Macedonian prestige, influence and an alliance with them. The Macedonians also provide a series of gifts for Byzantium working its way into the city's political elite to become appealing toward them. The Macedonians also work with their allies against the Spartans in order to beat them and remove yet another rival.  Using previous influences we requestCKrete join the war to prevent Sparta, the opressive and highly violent state from becoming most dominant in southern Greece. (Yeap)
 * Eip - algo for this please? I'm sure it's needed and you know how it's currently going to work. (Sure. - Eip)


 * Yamato Japan: A palace around OTL Toyooka, Hyōgo continues being built. A few new farms are established, and three new harbours begin to be built.
 * Mayan: We begin increasing our military might to roughly 8000 warriors, we also dedicate a branch of our army to the Hero Twins of Hunahpu and  Xbalanque, roughly numbering 300 elite zealots warriors, which in return increases our military might. We send some scouts to go outside to explore the world for possible expansion our nation. We begin building small dirt trails to help improve movement throughout the kingdom, we also we begin improving mathematics, and we begin to further expand traditional Mayan medicine along with farming techniques.
 * In Han China, Emperor Gaozu continues consolidation of non-Han Chinese lands. Farming and infrastructure developments (in the form of road work and continuation of construction on the Great Wall of China) continue to fuel economic development, which encourages closer ties of other nations. Meanwhile, Dingyue and Han China are intrigued by the natives of Taiwan, and begin to trade with them. Salt mining is made much easier by new iron tools, and the Emperor continues to fund creation of more and more iron refineries. The silk trade continues to fill the coffers of Gaozu. The Confucian system of bureaucracy continues to play a large role in governance. Population rises at a rapid rate and the economy is growing quite rapidly. We offer to accept the trade deals with Minyue and Gojoseon in exchange for increased talk of alliances.
 * Nok: Paving of the many dirt roads in the land continues, with the Nok placing numerous stone bricks into the ground to make it easier for travellers to reach from one city to another. One great road is under construction, with the many chiefs in the land supporting the project with the young men of their settlements. Elsewhere, Nok fishermen continue to produce larger fishing boats to move deeper and deeper into the sea, seeking to reach the larger fish supplies away from the shores. The desire is to build a boat big and deep enough not to capsize in the water due to the waves. Iron weapons continue to be produced by the central government for the warriors of the Nok. The Nok leader, King Daren, announces the construction of a great city out of the small town of Nok. He wishes to increase it in size for his people, to serve as a lasting reminder of the great wealth and power of his people. Looking throughout his city, Daren wishes to glorify it with much more solid buildings and foundations, and construct a royal palace the likes of which no man in the land has ever seen. He instructs his men to begin work on designing the new city, stressing his desire for straight streets and the ability of future inhabitants to reach the markets and shrines of the planned city.
 * Seleucid Empire: Despite the overstretching of the vast Seleucid Empire, Antiochus III looks for yet more conquest, looking hungrily at the domains of his rivals in the Ptolomeic Dynasty in the Levant. However, he is not oblivious to the overextension of power, particularly in the Eastern part of the Empire, leading to the establishment of a garrisons in Herat and Persepolis. Preparations are made for war against the Kingdom of Armenia, with Antiochus looking to establish the Empire as a Western Empire rather than be tied down by the powerful Magadha Empire in the East.
 * Canari Confederation: With no serious threats from the much less civilized tribes around the Confederation, the focus is on the expansion of infrastructure. Many roadways are constructed to allow llama traffic, linking major population centres like Guapondelig and Cojitambo. Meanwhile, llama breeding begins to focus on size and strength to allow llamas to carry greater burdens. An expedition is sent east through the Andes on llama-back, hoping to find equally advanced trading partners who could buy Canari textiles. Trade deals are requested with the relatively advanced Nazca. (Granted)
 * Saxon Tribes: The population of the diverse villages and settlements of the Saxon continue to grow as farms and alliances begin to form throughout the region. Iron weapons and tools slowly become common place mainly in the form of crude spears due to a lack of more iron (pre-Roman iron age in the Germanic lands was between 400-100 B.C.E. though it was very primitive) and those who are proficient in iron working become highly valued in their respective communities. fishing and trading in the north sea becomes increasingly important in the local villages along the coastline, and interaction with other Germanic tribes both on the continent and in Scandinavia grows. Worship of the Germanic gods mainly Wodin (more commonly known as Odin from old Norse mythology) and Doar (also known as Thor) continue grow and solidify as the common beliefs of the Saxon people (the Nordic gods were worshiped by all Germanic people until the rise of Christianity. Look it up if you don't believe me - under Germanic Mythology). And they start to become more concrete and streamline in certain villages. The tribes on the Elbe River grow and slowly expand along the river within the territories dominated by the Saxon tribes. Stories of the great civilizations to the south become ever more common amongst the villages and their elders. Under the current Chieftain/king Ansgar the Saxon tribe begins to spread out in the region establishing more communities and farms.
 * Helvetii: A new Confederal Palace is planned to be built in OTL Schwyz. New farms are established, and the capital Bern is building up.
 * Belgican Tribes:    A young headman of a northern tribe conquers other northern tribes after he fails to unite the tribes by words only and calls himself "The King of the Low Lands". He immediately begins stimulating trade between the diffrent tribes and therefore the economy is improved by 0.25.
 * Way too fast there, man. 
 * Malays: We expand our military. We develop new navigational techniques.
 * Brigantes: The King offers his son in marriage to the daughter of the Votadini King (Don't randomly add nations, and the Damnonii, or Damnii, exist.). Boiled leather armour begins to gain in popularity, and the King encourages this, as do the Druids, saying that the gods want their chosen people to be given armour so they can be protected from attacks from vengeful spirits. A child is born to the King, weighing in at birth at nine pounds. He is the second son of the King.
 * Republic Of Carthage: With asserted hegemony over the Eastern Mediterranean following the successful capture of Sicily and the defeat of the Roman navy five years before, Carthage has reemerged as a prosporous trade-based republic. Both Hannibal and Hasdrupal begin their rule as Suffets by increasing military patrols of Carthaginian trade waters in order to curb piracy and increase trade revenue. Furthermore, they oversee the granting of rule of Qart-Hadasht to Hannibal Barca's brother, Hasdrupal Barca, after the death of the previous governor, Mago the Fair. Hannibal Barca's other brother, Margo Barca, continues his travels through Iberia, Numidia, Mauretania and Syracuse, to get a better understanding of agricultural methods to better Carthage's agriculture. The Carthaginian capital of Carthaginian Sicily, Ziz (Palermo), disbands several mercenaries after paying them in full, leading to a larger population of people in Ziz ... The city of Carthage begins to undergo an expansion of the port to allow for more docked ships, both military and trade based. Hannibal and Hasdrupal continue their support of the Carthaginian military by increasing the number of paid mercenaries within the Carthaginian territory, creating larger armies that are trained by Carthaginian citizen generals. The failure of the Iberian tribes to produce a steady stream of mercenaries leads Carthaginian diplomats to head both north and south, asking Gallic and African nations to supply mercenaries that will be paid in full (Mod). Finally, a plan is put into place that will allow existing pirates to end their lawless nature by paying a one time fee per crew, and then enter service with the Carthaginian navy as part of military patrols (Mod).
 * Tibetan Peoples: As more Bonist villages are being founded, there is more farming of wheat and more herding of yak, sheep and goats. There is also more sense of common identity as a result of animist Bon being accepted. With the rise of Bon, however, one specific tribe rises from the rest, the Zuang Zhung culture. This is do them having the strongest ties to the animist Bon. We once again ask for a non-agression pact and a trade agreement with the Magdhan Empire.'

​204 BC
' All turns will be one year instead of half-years from now on. '

''' The Kingdom of Illyria, due to Macedon's past actions and growing power, asks Rome to renew its pledge of protection of Illyria, but only if Rome will provide moderately excessive compensation for abandoning Illyria in the war against Macedon. '''

''' Raiders from the lands of the Cisalpine and Raetian Gauls begin some raiding of northern Roman territories, sensing weakness of a smaller Rome. '''

''' The Carthaginian city of Ziz experiances a fire than burns a little over a third of the city, started from the slums of poorer citizens and mercinaries. '''

''' The City-State of Cyssicus joins Sparta's Pelopanese Aetolian League in their war against the Achean League, following Athen's and other states failure to join Sparta. '''

''' Along with the Sarmatian Khante, the Hamaksoikoi, Galaktophagoi and Sauromatai Khantes (Don't hate, blame Strabo for the names) also begin to prosper and gain strength. Due to the Sarmatians more nomadic nature, their farms are not up to par with more Westward oriented farms as of yet. '''

''' The Minyue are greatly interested with the talk of an alliance with the Han Chinese Empire, but the Gojoseon are much less interested. '''

''' Bon begins to grow intensely popular with the Tibetan Peoples. However, certain groups within Tibet, called   Purānō viśvāsa's (Old Faithers) , begin to denounce the Bon practices and put forth their idea of a Divine King that shall appear once the  ' Purānō viśvāsa's,  '' are in total control of the Tibetan lands.

"If" - Archidamus III, King of Sparta, in response to Phillip II, King of Macedon's threat, "If I enter Laconia, I will raze Sparta".
 * Cimbri: Fishing and farming are our most important industries at this time. New temples to worship the Old Norse Gods are continuing to be built. Fensholt becomes the name of our capital city. Whale hunting is continuing to be popular within our nation. The population of the diverse villages and settlements of Cimbri continue to grow as farms and alliances begin to form throughout the region. Iron weapons and tools slowly become common place mainly in the form of crude spears due to a lack of more iron. Boats made of strong wood are being made for trade. Port cities start to be made for trading. Fishing and trading in the north sea becomes increasingly important in the local villages along the coastline. Felix Torben's first son is born. His name is Leif.
 * Parthia continues economic development. Arsaces crush dissent, stating in an address to most nobles in the realm in flawless East Iranian that "he is as Parthian as any of you. I am not Greek, I am descendant from the proud Dahae clan. I speak Greek, but I'm not one of them". To remind them of this, Arsaces builds a fire temple in the main city of the Confederation. Closeness with the Seleucids continue, but interests in Mazandaran grow.
 * Yamato Japan: A palace around OTL Toyooka, Hyōgo continues being built. A few new farms are established, and three new harbours continue to be built.