Talk:Map Games

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--Catherine 18:24, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Participator in the Map Games

=Discussion=

Comments by Mitro on creation of page
You know what is funny? I was just about to create this page. I had everything written out, but when I went to save it, I discovered Oer beat me to the punch. Mitro 16:35, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

LOL!!! Paaaad 00:49, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

New Map Game
I was thinking about making my own map game. I already have a map.ProfessorMcG 22:20, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Really? What/When/Were would it be?Paaaad 23:37, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

1430 during the Renaissance in Europe, I have the map. It has 50+ countries lolProfessorMcG 01:15, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking about a world War one map game in which case I call Austria-Hungary!Batmanary 03:11, June 24, 2010 (UTC)Batmanary

Hmm... I was thinking on that too. I claim Italy! Fedelede 03:12, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'll join too, dibs on Germany! Ownerzmcown 3:18, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

TRIPLE ALLIANCE FTW

Sorry tho i dont hav the skillz to make one i just really want one on this wikia, meebe even an Austro-Prussian War map game, now that would be pretty coolBatmanary 03:21, June 24, 2010 (UTC)Batmanary

I prefer the WW1 idea... I will do it, if somebody helps me to color the countries on the map Fedelede 03:22, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I have an Idea. we have the game run maybe year by Year, every year you make a map. btw don't get mad if i dont contribute fast since i have school and all.Batmanary 03:30, June 24, 2010 (UTC)Batmanary

What about a Chinese Warring states map game or a greek city states map game, I think that'd be fun Ownerzmcown 03:26, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Starting map games
To start a Map Game, do I have to post the first turn after posting the rules?Azecreth 00:30, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Its up to you, its your map game. You just have to post the starting map.Oerwinde 08:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki?
Should we move to here?Baconton 20:29, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess my question is: why? Is there something this wiki does not provide that this other one will? I'd just like to point out that this wiki and the new Map Game Wiki are both run by Wikia, so all the features will be exactly the same. Mitro 20:36, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mitro is right. All the map games are on this wikia anyway.-Eastward Expansion
 * Mitro is right. All the map games are on this wikia anyway.-Eastward Expansion

Suggestion
You know what might be a cool idea, if a bit of a more complex map game were made that essentially plays like a real time strategy game. Whoever makes the initial maps will have designated regions that will each be owned by one country or another, then each person picks a country, selects where they have armies or ships and then its played turn-based. I can elaborate more if this idea seems convoluted, but basically it'd be a little like a game of Empire: Total War.

Obviously every map game wouldn't be like this, just one active one at a time would be. Only problem I can see, aside from complexity, is that the turn-based thing might be a little hard for some people to keep up with.

Still, thoughts?

Red VS Blue 11:20, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I like the sound of that! Bob 12:53, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I've given it some thought, and I've decided that during the summer, I'll try and create a Map Game for my idea above. I'll have to hear from anyone who is interested though as I'll need to decide how many playable countries to have and what not. Also, I'm still undecided on what kind of map to use for this, so if anyone wants to sway my opinion, go ahead. Just try to keep any conversation as organized as possible =P

Here's to hoping this works! =D

Red VS Blue 20:19, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking of doing this too, weather, terrain, everything. Smallpox 20:41, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know about adding weather, but having details of the terrain could work. I want to keep it as simple as possible. Though I have a feeling that the rules sections is going to be veryyy long.

Red VS Blue 17:28, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Image Quality
Image quality has been an issue lately. Low quality images make editing new maps a chore, with bleeding colors making color selection difficult because it makes solid colors into multiple shades. I was considering making maintaining the image quality a rule rather than a guideline. Basically deleting any images if they are a lower quality than the previous one. What do you guys think of this?Oerwinde 02:16, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Since I have started noticing it on a rather large scale, and these are map games, yea it NEEDS to be a rule.--DaBigUn 03:58, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Complaints
Had a few complaints recently, I'll try to address some of them.

Unfortunately Accellerated time is common on all the map games. Mostly because people want things to happen every turn when in history there were periods of time where nothing happened. In the Europe 1430 game one country colonized a portion of mexico the size of the entire state of virginia in a year. Unfortunately for the people who try to be realistic about their posts, we are outnumbered about 4:1 by the people who just want to god-mod a specific nation. I'm not sure what can be done about the various complaints because really the only thing that can be done is by not allowing some of the more prominent players to participate such as Catherine and Destroyenator, who are notoriously implausible or biased in their posts

Another complaint is that of ganging up. That the most active players will contribute the most is a given, that can't be changed, its really only that much of an issue in games in which one player = one country. I tried to stay out of those from the beginning because I thought they were a bad idea, they were inevitibly going to cause hostile feelings between players as there was no real way to determine the outcome of wars and such. The only way for these games to work is if the game doesn't move forward until every player has taken their turn.Oerwinde 02:20, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Or a programmed in Dice system which rolls randomly to the players participating in the game, thus making it better, along with some rules to prevent them from doing ridiculous things (Russia roles a 1 and Canada rolls a 20; dosent mean Canada can auto take even 1/100000th of siberia, just means they repealed the attack and caused massive casualties.)....something like that.--DaBigUn 02:26, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I suggested earlier, an map game with a similar layout to a "RTS" would conceivably work fairly. Strict rules would be set out and with territories specifically marked out already, no one would be able to take over too much land at once. Personally, I feel that the way the map games are lain out at the moment is inherently problematic, for a real game at least. Serious reworking needs to, and will be done. =D Red VS Blue 02:38, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * What about mine?....I mean there hasent been much posting, but still, what about the rules then?--DaBigUn 02:40, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * If anyone knows how to program that here, that'd be great. For battles though I was thinking that more of a rock-paper-scissors format would work here. To simplify things, say Alaska has a plane unit (remember it'll be more complex than this) and Vladivostok as a tank unit. Plane beats tank, and the unit is destroyed. But say Vladivostok has built an AA turret there, the plane unit is destroyed. Obviously I'll be much more precise about what kills what and under what conditions, but I haven't really given much attention to this yet. So if you want, make whatever suggestions you think I should consider, or even start one yourself. Red VS Blue 17:47, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

"Strategy"
For anyone interested, my project for a board game style Map Game is in the works and as such, a page for the rules has been created. It'll be a bit slow going for me, but I'll try to be as prompt as possible. I don't want to have any comments trying to rush me or anything though. Red VS Blue 01:53, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lets make a new map game
I've been having trouble with these map games so far. I'd like to create a new map game free of the problems of accelerated time or implausible edits. Simply posting NO IMPLAUSIBILITY in the rules dosn't seem to be enough.

These are some rules I think can be made to work: So an example of a turn would look like this.
 * No player controls a nation, rather one player edits the entire year for all nations. We have a specific order of who goes when.
 * If your posts are rollbacked for implausibility 3 times in a row, you get the boot. :)
 * Religious spread and discovery/spread of technology count as their own nations.

1672 (Lets Say)

Politics Technology Religion So....when would you suggest we start this 'whomever you are' so that we can get this going. And what year will this START and STOP in.That Guy 03:46, February 4, 2011 (UTC) First of all I'll point out that there are a few inaccuracies such as that socialism did not exist until the 19th century. Also I don't think it would work because people would lose interest, only editing once a week or so on countries they don't care about. Also the countries would become bland because people would be afraid to stray off a continuous path set down by people before them. The thing is map games are meant to be fun, implausibility rules are only to keep people from having to get angry at unrealistic actions. When you try to make a game too systematic and only to create quality articles, it no longer serves its purpose of fun. But I respect your opiniom and I see its validity. —Detectivekenny; (info, talk) Preceding text certified by R. Xun as of 04:19, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Bavaria-Swabia faces a socialist revolution. The government is overthrown, putting the Republic of Bavaria-Swabia on bad relations with the Archduchy of Austria and the Kingdom of Bohemia.
 * Luxembourg forms an alliance with Brandenburg against Denmark, and enters the Danish War. Despite the extra manpower, Denmark maintains its pre-war borders.
 * The Kingdom of Annam embraces the women's rights movement, mostly as a way of appearing supperior to otherwise more modern Khmer.
 * The Dominion of Panama opens the Panama canal. This makes trade to the Western coasts of North and South America much cheaper. The increase of wealth makes Panama's government more stable.
 * The Scottish Commonwealth finishes the New Hadrian Wall, and closes their border with the Welsh Empire. A revolution in Ireland is putt down.
 * The Empire of Bulgaria makes Judaism their state religion.
 * Rifle technology has spred from Europe and becomes a key component in the Khmer Military.
 * A spray for eradicating ticks is discovered. The Bubonic Plague, which has spread to many colonies due to rats infesting ships, is now receding.
 * Judaism has become a key part of Bulgarian culture.
 * A movement in Buddhism allowing for enslavement of the Unenlightened gains popularity in Tibet. Tibetan raiders start taking slaves from Nepal, Bhutan, Uigheristan and the Ming Empire.