Talk:Mscoree/Archive2

This page is an archive for the User Mscoree's talk page.

NotLAH Request
Yankovic270 has just created the nation of Roswell and West Texas for the West Texans. Now, I was under the impression that they were part of Texas, just forcibly seperated by the war. I don't like how he keeps trying to break Texas apart. But that's not what I'm asking about.

I'm requesting to control Roswell to become a place for Know-Nothing members to take over and use as a base for anti-Unionist and pro-war prppaganda. If I can't control it, and I understand if you don't want me to, I ask if you could let that happen via mod events. Thanks for your time.

Doctor Evulz (talk) 23:14, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Disregard that. I see you've removed that part. Doctor Evulz (talk) 23:19, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

That's not why I messaged you. I was just trying to make the best of a bad situation. Thanks for your help, though. Doctor Evulz (talk) 00:08, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Template
Here's a long overdue promise from here: Thread:104375

Copy and paste this to your userpage:

18:47, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I've missed a few turns in Night of the Living Alternate History, but one of my friends was helping my youth group build a house as one of our projects, and he fell from the second floor, cracking his skull. There was alotta brain swelling, and they put him in a medically induced coma so the swelling went down. It's down now, and he's fine besides the fact he can't "whip his hair back and forth" for a few months, and even then he has to get checked out by the doctor. But I had been staying in his hospital room for the past two days with lack-o-posto. Now I should be free to post everyday, with Lite back to normal, and school being out! EiplecOco (talk) 02:27, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

I messed up the template I think when I was trying to add my nation. Octivian Marius (talk) 17:21, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

can you teach me how to use templates so I won't make mistakes and so I can make my own. Also in NotLAH can you use your mod power to create a WWIII

Some Misunderstanding (NotLAH)
I meant that Humbert II was Italy's last monarch who ruled until 1946, when he was deposed by the Italian people in favor of a republic, that's why he went to exile. Then in the ATL, California's National Assembly called him from exile in Portugal to become their king, but did not happen due to a coup that made the country a republic.

HRE
...Seriously?

You are talking about a structure that has not exist in your time period for two and a half centuries, not really desired for another before that, and without any purpose for a century and a half before that.

And that's in addition to there being a Republican majority in those areas by your timeframe.

Simply put, the idea is ludicrous.

An alliance between states in these areas? Sure. One like this? No.

Lordganon (talk) 07:49, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

...That is what you got from that? Sheesh. Way to not read what I said and miss the point entirely. And that tone when someone tried to give you helpful advice? Wow.

I am saying that the use of that name is quite literally impossible. There is no reality that that makes any sense in.

There has never been any nostalgia for that thing.

Your "duchies" and "kingdoms" part makes even less sense.

Oh? You're going to bring up SfA like that? Then you didn't look at that thing whatsoever. Or why it died.

Lordganon (talk) 06:28, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
If you want Muscoree to get on chat just sign. Octivian Marius (talk) 14:53, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Heyo, can we talk about the Spain thing, I feel like there must have been some sort of misscommunication between my posts and your thoughts and perceptions about the iberian pennisula. G greg e (talk) 20:38, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hey chief, new turn for PM3? SwankyJ (talk) 23:32, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

New Nation (NoTLAH)
Hey, can you add my nation (Dinetah) to the Nation List? Bfoxius (talk) 14:35, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Can you add my new flag to the Nation List? It's on my nation page. Bfoxius (talk) 23:37, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Chan Santa Cruz Diplomatic envoy's
This time can I have some sort of responses from the North mexican states please? ;)

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 14:37, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Template
I saw how Octavian broke it. He forgot to close his brackets. If you want, I could add him on there without breaking it.

Doctor Evulz (talk) 18:27, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Missing nation (NotLAH)
Hi. Could you add my nation page to the template please? And also, please create somthing like this for Northern California:

IstocnoSarajevo (talk) 03:34, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Gratitude (NotLAH)
Well, thakn you for the template and adding my nation on the NotLAH template. and just a little information: Actually, Lawrence Brown is the Mark Robinson's Prime Minister. The ruling PM is Manuel Perez. IstocnoSarajevo (talk) 02:47, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Template Permission (NotLAH)
Well, may you please give me permission to modify my nation's info template? IstocnoSarajevo (talk) 06:22, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

When does it happen?
After how long inactive does a player get kicked? Also, if G greg e does not post until he shouldd be kicked, can I be put as the UR? Local (talk)

Hey man. I am back after a little abrupt spell of disappearance from NotLAH. Would you be able to tell me how the world is now, and how IO can expand Northward with the South Africans. I think former Rhodesia must now have been weakened to the point where I can just eradicate the zombies and take over the areas. It will take a few years, but is it possible. And how are things? :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:27, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, can you please get back to me on whether I can take control of the UR, because at the moment G greg e is not posting, and so the UR stagnating, so can I take control please? Local (talk) 21:27, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Can you reply please? And can you consider it, as it is unfair of you trash the entire UR because he is inactive, because I am active, and part of the UR, so it affects me also when you start to take chunks of the UR. Please respond ASAP Local (talk) 21:55, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Map Changes: Desert Republic (NotLAH)
Excuse me, would you mind about revising the map that it shows the Desert Republic (a puppet of Northern California). It extends from the eastern border of the Bay Republic on the west to the OTL border with Nevada in the east. Well, thanks.

Sincerely,

IstocnoSarajevo (talk) 07:31, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Resolution 6.
Thanks. I have been thinking about posting that for a while. Italy provided a perfect opertunity, unintentionly. David Rain (talk)

Star Wars Sequel? (NotLAH)
Yeah, the film was a flop, but OTL Star Wars was expected to be one too. I recall hearing there was a low-budget TV movie planned if Star Wars hadn't so well here. Maybe a similar idea could be done ATL? I really enjoyed re-writing the first movie. Who knows what I could do with sequels?

Doctor Evulz (talk) 01:34, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about any confusion for the descision of New Romania. I will fix them up as soon as I can and make accurate descision about being in the CSTO.

-New Romania

-Aternix (talk) 23:21, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

New Nation? (NotLAH)
Octavian Marius wanted me to tell you his proposal for his back-up nation if Italy falls. It's a union of: Southeast France, Monaco, Malta, and Lazio.

P.S. Don't shoot the messenger. Tell Octavian your feedback.

Doctor Evulz (talk) 03:50, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Meet on chat now to discuss this. Octivian Marius (talk) 13:15, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Any chance you can get on chat today? just have a few questions? Send em a message on talk of when you can. Best Regards G greg e (talk) 16:11, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Would you please upgrade my stability now. I have worked on water supply, food, army, navy and infrastructure. I am expanding my influence too. Racism is not tolerated that much, a sense of unity exists within my peoples. Segregation does not exist either. I have alliances and trading pacts with the most powerful nations on the planet. So please, would you be able to increase my stability now? Btw, I have asked the mods about a matter in-game. I would be delighted if you could respond to the matter. ;) Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:33, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Btw, me asking there was not aggressive, more like pleading. ;) But, thank you. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 06:53, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

re: Battle for Earth Strikes Back!
You're accepted into modship, though we have a backstory. Check Battle for Earth: Prime for the general backstory. CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 19:00, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely. Just read nation pages on BFE: Prime to see what's been established and what can't be changed (for example, the Mechs and the Phantoms had a war 65 MYA that resulted in a ship crash landing on Earth and causing a mass extinction). CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 19:09, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

1. Whenever or however you feel is right. 2. At least a few thousand years. Maybe ten thousand. 3. I'll upload a map when I can.

Regarding the portal page, I'll get on that. The parallel universe thing, I was actually hoping to imply that but never reveal it. I'd like to play heavily on the multiverse theory. CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 01:29, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

I commend you for putting so much effort into your nation page! And I don't mind the messages. It's what a talk page is for, after all. CrimsonAssassin- "You can't handle this egg roll" 01:44, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

USSR/Russia
Please change the USSR to russia in the template. OreoToast555(Talk) 04:31, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Wu
Can you add Wu to the Night of the Living Alternate History Template please?

I am concerned about recent (last three turns) Wu population increase numbers, please look into them as soon as you can, they are implausible in my mind at least. G greg e (talk) 00:08, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

My new Nation NotLAH
As Italy has just been conqured I would like to ask you is you could add the city state of Keil to to the nation list. Can you make sure there are no new biases to me in my new nation. I am now offiacly Keil. Octivian Marius (talk) 16:14, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

if you put 'Keil' as a nation, I will shoot myself, it is Kiel that he means Local (talk) 22:00, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

It is the one nation in Germany that is not HRE aligned and Treaty of Suryacuse has been signed. Octivian Marius (talk) 16:30, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Howdy. I would like to give my 2 cents on Indian nations. I would suggest that the Bengali of Bangladesh (E. Bengal) and the former Indian state of W. Bengal would unite into the nation of Bengal. Seeing the zombie menace, I would count on the fact that religion would not be a major issue in the nation.

Count on the nation of Maharatha being created in the state of Maharastra, with its capital either Pune, Nasik or Mumbai (remenants). :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:07, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Can you upload the Nordic Republic of Germany (Page not ready yet) to the template



Republic of Italy (NotLAH)
You should edit the NotLAH template, now that Elba officially became the Republic of Italy. -- 20:10, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Will there be a sequel to NotLAH? Inferal (talk) 21:26, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I made a post that I now see was not completely plausable, but Edboy struck through the whole post, can you check it, I just wanted to make another Antarctic City, can you check the post please Local (talk) 21:41, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

BFE Prime
I don't think it was a good idea to remove the links to all the content that was created for the Primeline (what I call the timeline and related content) from the mainpage. Maybe we could a section for major nations (with just linked names) and then some other links?

02:49, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Salton (NoTLAH)
Would you mind if i will also take Salton? IstocnoSarajevo (talk) 03:22, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Vegas (NotLAH)
The Vegas government established by that long gone player was overthrown by the Mafia in 87. The Vegas government is the Mafia. Yank 20:10, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Can u make a map for mine and old baby 2's mapgame

Bay Republic (NotLAH)
Would you also mind that i'll also take the Bay Republic in case no one plays as it anymore?

Maps
Hey what program/software do you use to edit the maps to show territories? OreoToast555(Talk) 02:38, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Redirects
Incorrect. I am deleting the pointless redirects that you continue to make and then restore despite the deletion. In violation of the naming policies of this wiki, for that matter.

They are not necessary. Not even remotely.

The actual pages? Untouched.

Don't remake those redirects again.

Lordganon (talk) 10:05, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Name things properly.

You have marked no such things for deletion. Quick look at the deletion category shows otherwise.

Lordganon (talk) 09:14, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Read the last thing you wrote on my page again. You very clearly said that you had. Lordganon (talk) 09:00, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

No.

Once again: I have not deleted any content. Only some pointless redirects that you continue to remake after I delete them.

Nothing that you are "working on" is gone. Not a single thing.

I'm not going to warn you about those blasted things again.

Lordganon (talk) 06:53, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously? That is how you act? I warned you not to do it. Many times. So, unfortunately, you've now made me do this. Here's a day to think about it. Lordganon (talk) 10:50, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Promotion (NotLAH)
I'd like a promotion to full moderator, or at least to have the ability to write mod events. I've been wanting to make mod events regarding the Star Wars sequel I've been planning. I've also done a good job (in my opinion) of keeping implausibility down. So can I have a promotion, boss?

Doctor Evulz (talk) 14:10, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Hello Mscoree. May you please come to chat? Thanks! This is UglyTurtle, Signing off. 19:32, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Battles in NotLah
I think two battles in a month is possible in NotLAH as long as they are not for a major city (like Capital).G greg e (talk) 04:31, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Added the event, anything in the middle east? Eritrea? two places that might be missing. Best Regards G greg e (talk) 15:40, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Do I need to do the battle of Kiel? the algo for it? G greg e (talk) 15:52, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Heyo, So how many troops does kiel have? I thought Octivian was playing as the city-state of kiel? is that right? anyway, i still dont think its right to mod Italian forces into the battles since they are being played by an active player.If you want I will continue to handle the Scandinavian algo's G greg e (talk) 22:34, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Page for a new nation
I want to make a page for my new nation in India but is isn't on the template. my nation is called The New Indian Hindu Repuplic, or shorter: The Hindu Rep. Mr YOLO (talk) 10:00, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Nordic Germany
Can you add my nation to the template?

Also I might need a template for my nation soon, how do you make them.

Octivian Marius (talk) 23:00, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

How many troops does Nordic Germany have? Before, i thought he was kiel and thought we said on chat a realistic population was 300,000. I know you added to his territory, so how many active forces would NG have, and what is their population. Please respond asap. G greg e (talk) 02:03, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Proposal for NotLAH (ULNOOSA Protectorate of Tenochtitlan)
Hi. To solve the problem of that to do with Mexico City (I envisaged a future with a nation torn between the two capitals) Chan Santa Cruz decided to make it a Spaceport, for use by ULNOOSA. Canon?

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 11:39, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Also...
The Human-Zombie War features Mexico as among those nations not put as 'and others' I don't know about Pre Chan Santa Cruz but it seems they did not do much. Would it also be acceptable to add a section on the Northward Push (North Mexico Campagin) and liberation of Mexico City (Operation Aztec)?

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 11:58, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Wait...
Talking about NotLAH, does Italy own Basilicata too? (I'm wondering because the World Map states that Italy owns Basilicata too). -- 15:55, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Canada NotLAH
First off, i am not sockpuppeting. My friend, i know him in real life. I told him about the game and he wants to play. He attempted to play as germany, i helped him set his post up. He would like to now play as canada, seeing as the current user is inactive. OreoToast555(Talk) 02:51, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Can you ban him, he is a complete idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about, and is really AND, which you banned Dean for Local (talk)

Could you clarify the 1995 Mod event about Canada... as the UR i just invaded there and now there is a mod event saying the ULN did, when the ULN never has voted on such an action. G greg e (talk) 20:29, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Zombies vs zombies
Like English, French, Italian, etc - Zombies

EoGuy (talk) 05:59, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

London
you didn't do an algorithm, my troops are spec ops, and I sent 10,000, and I have been funding pro-UR rebels in London for four or five years, I wouldn't lose, and the heptarchists wouldn't succeed, and you didn't do an algorithm, and 10,000 Spec Ops troops in a ruined city vs 100,000 untrained rabble attacking said city, no contest, Spec Ops troops would win. Local (talk)

I'm sorry I said that, but I was just annoyed, and didn't.mean it, please don't ban me.from the game, but if you do, just tell Greg to control the Falklands until I am allowed back please Local (talk)

I think I will wait, IDK if I am still in the UR, if not then I will stop interacting with anyone at all, if I am then I will stop trying to get London. Local (talk)

HI
So anyway I have 2 favors to ask from you. 1. can there be a mod event advertising the PU 2. Can ther also be a mod event if the Imperial constitution was approved.'

Joining?
Can I join the NotL game? I think I can, but I just wanted to make sure anyway. Also, is the area around Afghanistan open for the taking?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 20:16, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

When will i be unbanned Warman555

Alternate History Memes??
You and OreoToast555 have recently created a page called "Alternate History Memes". Can you explain to me the purpose of this. I have opened a discussion on this, and I request that you do not upload any new files until it has been resolved. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:29, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

i belive you was asked nicely to stop uploading them while the discussion is in progress. can you please stop now please? Wingman1 04:50, July 8, 2013 (UTC)




 * All I asked was that you not add to the situation until it could be sorted out, nothing more. These two uploads were uncalled for and disrespectful. Three days. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:59, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ok mscoree, the memes about our nations are amusing, but I completely understand what NuclearVacuum said. That offended me, even though none were about me. Just put about other nations, not people. Daeseunglim (talk) 13:43, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Now, I completely support the meme idea. Yet there are always some limits with these. I have reduced your block to 1 day, and I'm alowing you to edit your own talkpage, but you better have damn good arguments when LG comes aknocking.

Now, I was looking forward to seeing the South Africa ones, but you ended up getting blocked. Now if you are allowed to have this meme thingy, then I will have to put some rules down mate: Plus, I want you to apologise to Nuke on your talkpage, and make sure it does not happen again. What you did was not good. Plus, could you cut out the arguments between you and LG, they are not good. Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:51, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) You can add nation memes using their flag if it is your own map game or timeline
 * 2) If you want to do so for other ones, ask their creator(s) first.
 * 3) Make it funny ;)
 * 4) If you want to make user memes, then ask permission from the user. If you had asked me, I would have allowed it - but some users do not like that sort of thing.

Moving onto Belgium now. See, the north of the nation speaks predominatly Dutch and Flemish - Dutch languages. The south is more French speaking - and so the Belgian movement would not be able to hold cohesion. Now, I am going to try to sort this out in-game though a speech by Nelson Mandela, so I hope than can be sorted. :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:59, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

If you are allowed to resume, my Flag is wrong, the correcct one is on the UR page Mafia (talk)

Right. This meme thing.
Yes. I get the idea. I find it funny. The national ones particualy. I agree with it in concept, but please ask before you do a player. Otherwise that's just... rude. Which is not the impression I get from you generally, unlike some people. I'll leave you to guess who I mean.

On a personal notem could you (yes admins read this this is me requesting it) do one for me as a user? it would be interesting I think, to see what you think...

Good luck. I would say more but I have a feeling that even saying I would say more is dangerous.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Aid-4q8s7o Came across this. Very funny. Odd though.] (Youtube)

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 17:19, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Notlah- HELP
I feel that Texas and Dinetah are going to invade the smaller states of alberquerce. I asked them if i can get land too, and they all declined. I fear they will invade me to. I need the US help. Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 11:07, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH 2
Will there be a 2?

When will the sign up come, I am Switzerland.

I have cool new page ideas for my nation so when can i make my pages. (Swiss Nationialist party, Swiss Nationialist Manifestio, and Alpine Army.

Sencerially

Octivian Marius (talk) 17:14, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

WW3 Stuff
Hi.

I have a proposal for the third world war. I am Afghanistan, which is currently neutral. But if the war swings in your favor, I would be willing to join in on your side. All I ask is that I have some of the demands if we win. I made this offer to Oreo, who has not yet responded.

Let me know what you think.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 01:02, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Just keep this secret, win the algorithim, and prevent any other nations from joining Russia's side, and I will help soon with a full invasion and a new front.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 01:10, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

I plan on intervening in WW3 next in 1998, but only if you can provide me with military support, because I doubt I could stand up to the Russian juggernaut all by myself. Air support would be very nice, since my airforce is particulary outdated.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 00:24, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, are we winning WW3? Wu seems to be winning in Asia, and I don't know what's up with Russia.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 16:44, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Support would be great. I think if we can hit Russia on three fronts, we can beat them. Furthermore, now that France has surrendered, we can take out Wu and Korea later on.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 16:51, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Mscoree, my country is stabilizing rift now, with elections next round. I am mad at Rep of New Mexico, but I am aiding u in the war with transportation. Daeseunglim (talk) 17:01, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Erie/RoS union
I want to unify the RoS and Erie. I have 2 questions: 1. R u ok with that, and 2: can I purchase the two counties separating us. No military reason, just logistics and transportation. Thanks Daeseunglim (talk) 02:41, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH Year
Hello Mscoree. I am wondering about the sudden change for quarter years to half years in NotLAH. May you please tell me why 199.75 was skipped? Thanks! This is UglyTurtle, Signing off. 20:18, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Doc, nukes, and Notlah
well, texas (Doc) was invading me, and i kinda nuked him three times at tulsa, san antonio, and el paso (IT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE) he is going to ask you to nuke me, please dont! Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 13:32, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, no. What happened was that the Republic of New Mexico (Las Cruces) wanted to dominate the region forcefully. Me being allied within the NAL, I refused. He continued making his threats, so I threatened him back. He then bought nuclear weapons. When he threatened to nuke Dinetah and Texas, and planned to invade Albuquerque, I invaded to defend my ally. He then proceeded to use nuclear weapons on civilian targets, a war crime in every sense of the word. The United States being my ally (I'm pretty sure), I want their help in taking down this rogue state. They pose a threat to us both. Nuclear retaliation is the only option. Doctor Evulz (talk) 14:07, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Brazil
Brazil is under the thumb of the UR after the Treaty of Cordoba. They wouldn't ally with New Mexico, an enemy, so I crossed it out. Doctor Evulz (talk) 18:26, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

West African Federation
Hey Mc. I am requesting to form the West African Federation.

Legitimate Governments or Anarchy?
Hey Mscoree! I was wondering if Jordon and Iraq have actual functioning governments, or just general anarchy from the Human-Zombie War and have failed to recover. Thanks! EiplecOco (talk) 19:51, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

hey
sarajevo told me to tell you to post for himYay an Edit conflict (talk) 14:02, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

AFR
Hey, Mscoree, the AFR should replace the RoS on the template. Thx! Daeseunglim (talk) 18:48, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

AFR
Hey, Mscoree, the AFR has a pro-US government. The old regime was overthrown. Daeseunglim (talk) 20:52, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

My amazing joke
WHY YOU REMOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Sincerely, Mafia (talk)

Template
y u remov teh ideotic pohst templat3  OreoToast555(Talk)(Sandbox) 20:55, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Common sense
Hey there, my rationale for opposing your nomination is simple, and seems common sense to me. You've started contributing to this wiki only seven months ago and I've come to believe that it would take longer to get a proper feel for the community. I'd give it, at the very least, a full year of active mingling. On top of that however, it were the recent troubles surrounding your person, followed by a rather cheap swipe at one of our Bureaucrats no less, that proved the ultimate deal-breaker. Seeing as how this basically covers the criticisms of the four signatories before me, I decided to shed light on the fact that none of the three TSPTF members who voted decided to support you. Being someone who intuitively attaches more worth to the opinions of respected community leaders than those of regular contributors, that suffices as a reason to oppose. Hope my response justifies your anticipation. --NFSreloaded (talk) 21:56, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't have worried about appearing intimidating/harassing, as I was going to shrug it off as eagerness for the job. A bit of a shame you couldn't resist the lure of a cheap one-up in your follow-up message, however. Remember that it isn't me who's up for evaluation. --NFSreloaded (talk) 21:25, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

do you think that i should be able to form an Anatolian Revolution in PM2? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:27, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Can u come to chat so we can discuss my nation? Thanks. Daeseunglim (talk) 15:59, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH ASB
There are a lot of reasons why it was ASB, but the biggest one was Russia invading the Atlantic Seaboard and occupying several cities.

20:01, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Don't revert anything, that will kill the game. I speak from experience.

20:11, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hi.
Do you think (all things being equal) if I keep on influancing Guatemala I could have it join up around 2007 please?

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 13:49, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Will there be a sequel to NotLAH? Petrarch: Father of SWAG! (talk) 21:15, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Nation change/creation request
Hey ms, I need to ask you if I can form the United Socialist States of America(USSA) or the RSA(Rezzurectionist States of America) and requesting permission to change nations.Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 22:54, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Implausible Mod Events?
I received the following message in my inbox. I felt I should forward it to you.

" The regions of southern France again petition for unification and separation from Iberian influence. Peace talks are scheduled to occur with the Dutch controlled regions of France, the nations of the Celtiberian Community, and other small French communities. 

''First off the above event makes a reference to the Peace talks to occur, when they have never been discussed or even thought of by the Southern French governments, Brittany, or Netherlands France. All of whom are player controlled. Based on the past, while some may want to unify France, they are clearly in the minority in the whole French realm. ''

'Uproar is quelled following the decision to separate the Netherlands from South Africa. The Netherlands still remain heavily tied to South Africa politically, despite public opinion, and the government hopes to establish peaceful trade.' 

''This was already discussed above in a different section, how a treaty from over two years ago with no mention would be considered nul and void by any government. Furthermore, ever think of the how the people have bonded over their 30 years an union. While a union or colonial possession can have a rise for independence, looking at history in OTL which includes the history of this ATL, a possession normaly takes 100s of being with a nation to even think about independence. Also in this case it isnt even a colony, but rather a equal partner state, that has more to gain from South Africa than South Africa does from it. ''

 'After a slight rise in nationalism over the last few years, a period that many begin to refer to as Decolonization begins. Many in Europe feel that the days of massive empires to ensure stability and anti-zombie efforts are over, and many call for the peaceful release of liberated, vassalized, and otherwise occupied areas to form local governments.' 

''This one bugs me the most. Clearly with the prior mod events discuss on French-Dutch Sphere. It upsets me that there is no mention of Germany, which is by definition fits this desrcription in the fact that has directally annexed numerous states including the HRE, Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Slovakia, Slovania, Alsace-Lorraine. In addition the once clearly free region of Nordic Germany (equivelent being Schleswig Holstein and Hamburg). Many of which, including but not limited to Slovania, contain a different culture. ''

'' In addition to what i feel like is selective targeting. There was no buidup to this sort of event, it was just declared. I dont think we can imply that such a buildup would happen either, as the precent in both mod events and turns is that such changes take time and need to be stated, not just randomoly declared. ''

'Despite General Bao’s capture, massive resistance from the former Chinese Confederacy still remain. Chinese officials demand the creation of a Chinese republic free from Korean rule. About 2,000,000 fresh soldiers are raised in the north from the virtually untapped manpower pools. Peace talks are scheduled to begin between a transitional government and Korean officials.' 

''This event falls into the further massive confustion that started pre-WW3 with a map forcing Wu and Vietnam onto what many east asian nations considered improper sides. However, mod events in 2002.50 appeared to completly ignored a Korean Bailout, a Pro-Korean Wu governemnt (being their vassal). Furthermore. 2 million soldiers, cant just appear in a region that has been torn with war for at least 2 decades, and closer to three. In addition, peace talks have already been established and signed by Korea and many chinese nations. Once again, showing a failure to understand East Asia. ''

 Following Germany’s acceptance of Switzerland’s alliance offer, the Central Alliance is reborn between Germany, Switzerland, Croatia, Malta, Northern Italy, Italy, and the Confederation of the Baltics. 

''This mod event is a standard recap of past turns, and is a good one at that. However, it clearly shows lack of having read the past turns. If this event had accounted for only the previous turn, it would be known that N. Italy doesnt exist. Furthermore, this mod event breaks the rules of controlling a players nation, in this case Italy, who has been active over the past two days. In addition, this mod event clearly does not understand that Italy and Northern Italy's governments are sworn enemies at this point thin the game. Following Nothern Italy's attempt to humiliate the Italian government on a national stage.''

 'Following the successful Arabian invasion of Israel, the nations of the Middle East begin peace talks. Israel asks for autonomy within the federation, much like the other states, and states that the city of Jerusalem will be its own neutral zone for all peoples to enter.' 

''This is one of the better mod events. Even if you disregard that while other nations appear to be demaning independence, Isreal is willing to submit itself to a nation that doesnt even share a like culture? It it really plausible for Isreal to submit to being in a state when they are a Jewish state? And in the history of this game alone, have shown a propensity and tendencey not to get along with the Islamic states (ex: leaving the EHU, support of Turkey, etc.) While the city of Jerusalem idea would be proposed, Isreal would be adminent about keeping its own state, especially since the Federation is functioning like one nation more than ever before.''

''While I understand everyone is busy. It seems like there is clear missunderstandings, and when someone tries to explain what happenend and why, It appears that their actions are clearly targeted, retconned, or held against them ingame."''

I agree with most of the sentiment expressed above. Particularly regarding Europe. You can't pick and choose which countries to drive apart. The Celtiberian Communtiy, Southern France, and the Dutch have never expressed interest in any 'peace talks' and the whole thing came out of the blue. You've continually disregarded our arguments over the Netherlands situation (as stated, any treaty that doesn't have a response for two years is pretty much null and void). Northern Italy doesn't exist, but that was probably an honest mistake. And Germany should be experiencing rapid collapse if this 'Decolonization' business is really happening, considering it consists of near dozens of individual cultures.

I think it's obvious that these mod events and those of previous turns have been a result of your absence. You're making decisions without knowing the full story, as is the case in the Netherlands and the Chinese Confederacy with the Korean bailout. But when we tell you, you ignore them and give reasons that are quite frankly half-assed. I'm asking you to stop with the driving nations apart thing. It just doesn't make sense most of the time and your retconning of what has already happened long in the past has made the game less fun for multiple users, myself included. I don't like getting dragged into countless edit wars, and I'm sure you don't either.

Mscoree, as the game's founder and head mod, you've done great things for us. But these events are not them. The Doctor is in... 21:43, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Since you're clearly not going to listen to what I have to say im leaving discussing this topic for now before I say something I might regret later. g greg e  (talk)  01:01, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Implausible Mod Events?
I received the following message in my inbox. I felt I should forward it to you.

" The regions of southern France again petition for unification and separation from Iberian influence. Peace talks are scheduled to occur with the Dutch controlled regions of France, the nations of the Celtiberian Community, and other small French communities. 

''First off the above event makes a reference to the Peace talks to occur, when they have never been discussed or even thought of by the Southern French governments, Brittany, or Netherlands France. All of whom are player controlled. Based on the past, while some may want to unify France, they are clearly in the minority in the whole French realm. ''

'Uproar is quelled following the decision to separate the Netherlands from South Africa. The Netherlands still remain heavily tied to South Africa politically, despite public opinion, and the government hopes to establish peaceful trade.' 

''This was already discussed above in a different section, how a treaty from over two years ago with no mention would be considered nul and void by any government. Furthermore, ever think of the how the people have bonded over their 30 years an union. While a union or colonial possession can have a rise for independence, looking at history in OTL which includes the history of this ATL, a possession normaly takes 100s of being with a nation to even think about independence. Also in this case it isnt even a colony, but rather a equal partner state, that has more to gain from South Africa than South Africa does from it. ''

 'After a slight rise in nationalism over the last few years, a period that many begin to refer to as Decolonization begins. Many in Europe feel that the days of massive empires to ensure stability and anti-zombie efforts are over, and many call for the peaceful release of liberated, vassalized, and otherwise occupied areas to form local governments.' 

''This one bugs me the most. Clearly with the prior mod events discuss on French-Dutch Sphere. It upsets me that there is no mention of Germany, which is by definition fits this desrcription in the fact that has directally annexed numerous states including the HRE, Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Slovakia, Slovania, Alsace-Lorraine. In addition the once clearly free region of Nordic Germany (equivelent being Schleswig Holstein and Hamburg). Many of which, including but not limited to Slovania, contain a different culture. ''

'' In addition to what i feel like is selective targeting. There was no buidup to this sort of event, it was just declared. I dont think we can imply that such a buildup would happen either, as the precent in both mod events and turns is that such changes take time and need to be stated, not just randomoly declared. ''

'Despite General Bao’s capture, massive resistance from the former Chinese Confederacy still remain. Chinese officials demand the creation of a Chinese republic free from Korean rule. About 2,000,000 fresh soldiers are raised in the north from the virtually untapped manpower pools. Peace talks are scheduled to begin between a transitional government and Korean officials.' 

''This event falls into the further massive confustion that started pre-WW3 with a map forcing Wu and Vietnam onto what many east asian nations considered improper sides. However, mod events in 2002.50 appeared to completly ignored a Korean Bailout, a Pro-Korean Wu governemnt (being their vassal). Furthermore. 2 million soldiers, cant just appear in a region that has been torn with war for at least 2 decades, and closer to three. In addition, peace talks have already been established and signed by Korea and many chinese nations. Once again, showing a failure to understand East Asia. ''

 Following Germany’s acceptance of Switzerland’s alliance offer, the Central Alliance is reborn between Germany, Switzerland, Croatia, Malta, Northern Italy, Italy, and the Confederation of the Baltics. 

''This mod event is a standard recap of past turns, and is a good one at that. However, it clearly shows lack of having read the past turns. If this event had accounted for only the previous turn, it would be known that N. Italy doesnt exist. Furthermore, this mod event breaks the rules of controlling a players nation, in this case Italy, who has been active over the past two days. In addition, this mod event clearly does not understand that Italy and Northern Italy's governments are sworn enemies at this point thin the game. Following Nothern Italy's attempt to humiliate the Italian government on a national stage.''

 'Following the successful Arabian invasion of Israel, the nations of the Middle East begin peace talks. Israel asks for autonomy within the federation, much like the other states, and states that the city of Jerusalem will be its own neutral zone for all peoples to enter.' 

''This is one of the better mod events. Even if you disregard that while other nations appear to be demaning independence, Isreal is willing to submit itself to a nation that doesnt even share a like culture? It it really plausible for Isreal to submit to being in a state when they are a Jewish state? And in the history of this game alone, have shown a propensity and tendencey not to get along with the Islamic states (ex: leaving the EHU, support of Turkey, etc.) While the city of Jerusalem idea would be proposed, Isreal would be adminent about keeping its own state, especially since the Federation is functioning like one nation more than ever before.''

''While I understand everyone is busy. It seems like there is clear missunderstandings, and when someone tries to explain what happenend and why, It appears that their actions are clearly targeted, retconned, or held against them ingame."''

I agree with most of the sentiment expressed above. Particularly regarding Europe. You can't pick and choose which countries to drive apart. The Celtiberian Communtiy, Southern France, and the Dutch have never expressed interest in any 'peace talks' and the whole thing came out of the blue. You've continually disregarded our arguments over the Netherlands situation (as stated, any treaty that doesn't have a response for two years is pretty much null and void). Northern Italy doesn't exist, but that was probably an honest mistake. And Germany should be experiencing rapid collapse if this 'Decolonization' business is really happening, considering it consists of near dozens of individual cultures.

I think it's obvious that these mod events and those of previous turns have been a result of your absence. You're making decisions without knowing the full story, as is the case in the Netherlands and the Chinese Confederacy with the Korean bailout. But when we tell you, you ignore them and give reasons that are quite frankly half-assed. I'm asking you to stop with the driving nations apart thing. It just doesn't make sense most of the time and your retconning of what has already happened long in the past has made the game less fun for multiple users, myself included. I don't like getting dragged into countless edit wars, and I'm sure you don't either.

Mscoree, as the game's founder and head mod, you've done great things for us. But these events are not them. The Doctor is in... 21:43, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

To be clear, I didn't write that message. I just thought that you needed to see them. The Doctor is in... 01:10, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The way you put it doesn't suggest that was its purpose. There are many other ways you could have phrased it. You could have said unionist sentiment in France was growing, or that several nations in former France have put unification on their agenda. What you shouldn't have done was to declare 'peace talks' (not really peace talks, just regular talks) out of the blue with absolutely no prelude. You could've had a nation suggest the talks, but having all participants already agree and schedule it? Come on!
 * 2) I'm going to concede on the Netherlands issue. Whatever.
 * 3) I realize Slovakia isn't in Germany. The original poster put that in and I just didn't remove it. Regardless, if you think this 'Decolonization' thing you're setting up won't affect Germany at all, you are out of your mind. Just because a certain state is 'historically' part of a greater nation means nothing. Alaska was historically part of Russia. Cuba was historically Spanish, then American. There is a reason these states are independent. In fact, because of Germany being disunited for decades, I wouldn't doubt if there were Bavarian or Swabian nationalists. Luxembourg is as much French or part of Benelux (with Belgium and the Netherlands) as German. There would certainly and absolutely be people, a lot of people, who would want an independent Luxembourg or even for it to join the Netherlands. Liechtenstein has a stronger case for staying with Germany, but they too have their own identity. As you said, Slovenia will break off.
 * 4) Not 2 million. That is a third of the 6 million you said. There is no way an additional 2 million could be drawn up when even the best off of towns are partially destroyed. At the absolute most, 500,000. However, you ignored the main complaint. The Koreans have done everything to aid China. They did a bailout, returned order, and gave autonomy to their vassals. To have that many people rebel against them is irrational.
 * 5) It would be best to remove Northern Italy. That just causes confusion.
 * 6) I think the Israel event is well enough. That doesn't really strike me as implausible. Israel has been defeated.

== interactive map ==

oreotoast interactive would like to request an endorsement of the interactive notlah google map. OreoToast555(Talk)(Sandbox) 21:38, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ethiopian Start
Mscoree I have just started up as Ethiopia I have had few questions first off what will Ethiopia's borders be at when a start, probably not the entire nation, but maybe a couple of its provinces, just wanting to know. Wondering the status of the Zombie outbreak in Ethiopia since it has a smaller population it may have a smaller zombie population or Ethiopia is just to spread out to have been infected, I don't know just wondering, also just to confirm all technologies will start at 1 from tech, army, navy, and industry. How do resources add up are they given a set value and collected to my nation every turn? Also what is considered a Metroplois in reference to recruiting soldiers every turn? Also just wondering where does airforce fall under in technology army or navy?

LightningLynx89

My spelling corrections
Why did you change my spelling corrections?

EoGuy (talk) 05:01, August 11, 2013 (UTC)