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Joe McCarthy (FTBW)
In this TL, I'm going to make McCarthy less right wing, though still tough on America's most dangerous enemy, this time being Sorelism. As such, I'm also going to change his death into something else, though possibly linked to past alcohol abuse (after all, I have way to many heart attacks and strokes for many of the people I've named, maybe liver failure would work instead, I don't know.) Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 01:28, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the AIF is the FTBW version of OTL's FIFA. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 14:11, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that... I was trying to rework that article, and I guess I forgot to fix that >_> Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 02:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Opinion about Russian America
Long time no see. I have been fine, you?

I am honored you have come for my opinion. I have skimmed through the your timeline (I may not speak Spanish, but I can make out enough to understand what is happening). If my understanding is correct, England becomes a republic, which by far would screw up the British Empire in the Americas. Mexico annexes Louisiana??? That sounds very far fetched to me, but this is coming from an American who is used to the fact that we won over Mexico (XD). And the US collapses? (*brain has just exploded*). Either way, that does sound intriguing. A little out of my league, but very interesting.

In my opinion, with the UK gone, Mexico acting as a big buffer state between the US and the Pacific, and peaceful relations between Mexico and Russia, than I would definitely say Russia would expand under those circumstances. How far Alaska would expand depends highly on Mexico. If Fort Ross remained Russian, than Russia has the possibility to expand as far south. Pretty much the same border as what I have for my timeline. So in the end, it highly depends on Mexico.

I hope this helps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:52, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Quick little note. I love it when you say "jejeje."


 * I have been doing some thinking about it while at work, and I believe I have my answer for you. But let's start with the basics. I love the idea of a Republic of England. The only thing I will add is... if it became a republic as part of WWI, than Ireland would include the entire island. Northern Ireland only exists because that part of the island wanted to remain in the UK after Dublin declared independence. But either way, they would end up back in Ireland had they gained independence today.


 * Now onto the main part... Mexico. First off... as a Sorry American who feels bad we annexed parts of Mexico, I support the idea of Mexico getting revenge and annexing parts of the US (XD). But as a historian, there is a BIG problem with this idea. When the US annexed California, the US was annexing underpopulated territories of Mexico (this doesn't include the annexation of the independent Republic of Texas, or the Gadsden Purchase). If Mexico were to have annexed the Louisiana Purchase area around the same time, they would be annexing well developed states. Here is a map showing what the US looked like at the start of the Mexican-American War.


 * From what you are telling me, and from what I can make out, Mexico would gain international assistance in the Mexican-American War, leading to a Mexican victory. Aside from the territories, I doubt Mexico could gain a border on the Mississippi. Even if Mexico were to gain these regions, they would probably gain infighting from the region, potentially leading to a second Texan Revolution. If you want my guess, I would say Mexico's best chance at annexing any part of the US would be the Oregon Territory (since it once was part of Mexico [actually New Spain, but who's counting]), and maybe as far as the Missouri River (which would include only the "Unrecognized Territory" on the map I showed you).


 * The next part is the CSA. I am sorry to say, but there is a HUGE problem that make the continuation of the CSA almost impossible for your timeline... no Pacific coast. One of the main reasons the Civil War broke out is because of how to expand slavery to the Pacific. With no Pacific, I doubt the CSA would last long. In fact, I came across this same problem in my Russian America timeline. What I came up with is that only the states south of Virginia and Kentucky join the Confederacy. With nothing to really gain, Virginia remains out of the CSA, which means General Robert E. Lee fights for the Union, and the Civil War ends sooner. I doubt this would change here, especially with a more powerful Mexico (which hated the CSA by the way).


 * Now to Alaska. If the POD is 1838... we are in luck. Fort Ross was sold in 1841. But I doubt it would have any more luck here than OTL. But I can see an interesting idea for the Fort and surrounding region (if you don't mind me writing down my thoughts). Obviously, Mexico would have a positive relationship with Russia, so maybe they would allow the Russian culture and language to continue in the Russian River region. Over time, it could turn into a Cajun-like situation, in which the region would gain statehood in Mexico, creating a Russian-based state in Mexico. This was an idea I came up with long ago, it just seems to fit well here.


 * But since the POD is 1838, this doesn't change the fact that the UK and Russia had already agreed on the present day border of Alaska. Along with the already large presence of the British in the Pacific Northwest by this time, I have do now doubt Russia would be able to expand at this point in time. However, since Alaska remains Russian, and the UK collapses, it could be possible that in the chaos in Canada after the collapse of the UK, and the chaos in Mother Russia during the Russian Revolution, it could be possible that Alaska (which I think would have declared independence by now) would expand their influence into the unpopulated portions of British North America. At my guess, the Yukon Territory and the former would be annexed quickly, while any attempt to annex British Columbia would be a waste. If anything, Alaska would expand eastward rather than southward.


 * Well anyway, these are just my thoughts, but this is your timeline. Either way, I hope I was able to help out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:25, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem, glad I could help. Sorry for getting the wrong idea, but it does take me a long time to understand the details of another timeline, plus the fact that I understand little about the CSA myself. The main reason Mexico (in OTL) hated the CSA is because they had support in northern Mexico (Sonora, Chihuahua, and the Rio Grande states) to the point that the CSA considered annexing them (which is what I have done in my timeline about the CSA. But if the Mexican population was still outraged at the USA, than I guess an alliance with the CSA wouldn't be out of the question. Also, I am glad you like my Russian America ideas. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:03, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh sure, no problem at all. I love doing maps, and this should be a piece of cake. Sorry for the delayed response, my mind has been focused on another timeline of mine. So for the map, how did you want me to alter it? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 06:02, January 8, 2012 (UTC)




 * No problem. How's this (took me two minutes XD). --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 06:25, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Valdivia
Yes, that's a good idea. It could have severely damaged the Chilean economy. I think I remember the part of the House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende where the earthquake happens.

KingSweden 00:00, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Template
Gracias por la ayuda. No hay problema que se hagan correciones de las plantillas u orotgraficas. JorgeGG 21:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
The game is starting now. Thanks for playing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

AIF (FTBW)
I would greatly appreciate the help with the football articles, as I'm not a sports person, so I would prefer if more knowledgeable people than myself work on them.

As for South America: I think they will be a model of stability in the world. Brazil will soon take the lead, and disassociate itself with France around 2006 or so, and create the "Third Way" for nations that do not want to be involved in the Dual-Powers conflict. It would be something along the lines of reforming the Brazilian Bloc, but instead of competing with the other two powers, they would become a way for nations to distance itself form France or America. I could see most of South America, as well as nations like Australasia, South Africa, India and maybe Palestine (they are going to try to remain aloof of the wars in the Middle East after the devastating conflicts they fought during the 70s and 80s) joining this new bloc. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 17:33, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the Non-Aligned Movement was what I was kinda thinking of. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 18:35, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * 1922 works alright. The world has mostly recovered from the immediate devastation from the war, and the desire to try to prevent it from happening again would convince the major football nations of the world to get together and host this tournament. I also added Bordeaux as the city the AIF is head quartered in. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 06:18, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking of placing it in Brazil (as Switzerland is, technically, part of the French Empire since the end of the Third Global War), and since it was founded in France, it would remain in France. This would, indeed, make Americans and Russians and other Juneau Pact nations nervous/unwilling to attend this competition, but they have, and will continue to do so. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 07:03, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, it is 1922, so a country like France should be able to host it. I would say a larger country should host it until after the Third Global War, just due to the belief that the more powerful nations are indeed more capable of holding such events. And, as for Chile... I was running out of ideas for where to host the Winter Olympics. Besides the obvious choices of Alyseka, US, France, Scandinavia, Russia and Japan, I needed a different place, and a South American town in the Andes made sense for once. Yeah, I'm sure I can move it around. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 15:51, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I have no idea. I barely have the rudements of football/soccer down, so I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm going to let you do almost whatever you want with football in this world (make up the teams, the championships, tournaments, jersey's, whatever.) This is your ball, so run with it (literally :P) Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 04:56, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I have heard of the Football War in OTL. I do not think that will be possible in FTBW, mostly due to the larger nations in Latin America. Riots and such will happen, but say a particularly devastating one in the 1980's over a screwed up call (which I believe the Football War was about). Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 06:06, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil (FTBW)
You are right, I should have maybe expanded that more. I was thinking that the Emperor died without a heir, so it was decided to make it a republic. However, the republic soon became a one part democracy, before at last Emílio Garrastazu Médici takes over power as "President," though elections are still being held (just for approved candidates) until the end of the Venezuelan War, when Brazil becomes a Military dictatorship until Fernando Henrique Cardoso becomes President in 1998, at which point democracy is restored, though the executive still holds a lot of power in comparison to other democracies. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 03:12, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, changing the flag and COA might be a good idea now that Brazil is a Republic. I haven't gotten around to that yet, though I was thinking of keeping them as a reminder of the past from Brazil. But maybe modernizing them would be a good idea as well. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 13:47, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, go ahead. Are you going to make your own design, or are you going to use the OTL flag? Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 16:16, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Argentina (FTBW)
I will say that after the original occupation (say 1946-1950 or so) that it was a joint occupation, but Brazil managed to eventually force its own man in charge, and it became a dictatorship after that. After the fall of Brazil in 1978, a coup will put a Sorelist in power. I'm also thinking that the Sorelist/French allied nations in South America will manage to overthrow French dominance like Brazil did in 2004, and they ultimately form some semblance of Democracy, though with some heavy handed measures continuing. Mexico and Texas will NOT turn, but remain loyal Sorelist states. Thought I would mention that, as I do have a plan for them in the near future. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 03:21, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I meant a Brazilian supported Argentinean, my mistake. Sorry for nay confusion. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 04:38, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

SA Map
Alright, Katholico, I'm just about done the map, and now it's time for me to ask you the country names and some final touch ups and the map is yours :P.

P.S., I just had a quick question for you. I assume you know a little bit about the history of South America, and I was just wondering, were the Spanish colonies at the time were divided into smaller provinces? And at the time of revolution did those provinces unite and revolt or were boundaries just drawn up as some areas declared independence?

Regards, ChrisL123 00:07, January 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ohh, yeah I see what you're saying, thanks so much. Also, I just finished up the map and I just wanted to know what you wanted to call the file, and if you wanted any type of title like "South America" or something on the side. ChrisL123 03:33, January 12, 2012 (UTC)




 * Alright, here you are. Hope everything's right, and when you remember the Falkland Island situation I'll add them quickly to the map. Anything I got wrong I'll fix quickly. Any colour you might want changed I could do that also. Also, I couldn't exactly fit Argentina's name onto the continent so I apologize. If you want me to move it somewhere else I could fix it too. Other than that, enjoy! ChrisL123 03:54, January 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, I fixed it. I changed the colours and I put Paraguay in brown just so you don't get confused with the boundaries. If you want me to change it back that's fine. You'll also notice I added a little box with the Falklands on the bottom left hand corner, that's so the viewer can see which island belongs to which country because you wouldn't be able to tell which country had them from far away. If you want me to remove it that's fine :P. ChrisL123 01:41, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Argentina/Patagonia
Basically, after World War II, Brazil took over most of northern Argentina. Southern Argentina then became Patagonia. Hope this helps CheesyCheese 23:37, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil would keep Buenos Aires and the capital would be be movied to Neuquén, which is in Patagonia. CheesyCheese 22:10, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Chile/Del negros
My thinking is that they'd be independent roughly around the same time as OTL, if not a little earlier with the collapse of Spain at Napoleon's hands. I'll defer to you on Spanish names, so if its not a believable name I will change it!

KingSweden 22:18, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

South Pacific War
I really like the Occupation of Chiloé article, I'll look over the spelling soon. For the battle of the Chacao Channel, what ships do the Chilean navy use? - Mister Sheen 20:13, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, it seems like the Chilean navy is much bigger than the Santiagan navy (only 3-4 ships), so it would probably be a decisive victory for Chile. - Mister Sheen 17:36, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Electoral Maps
Hello again. Two more maps, eh? I would be happy to do them. It will take me a bit longer to do them. The first one was easy to do because the territories of the US were still based on the Adam-Onis Treaty lines (but not any more). So give me a bit, and I will note you when I am done. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:47, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

FTBW Replies
Alright, I'm getting too lazy to find the original messages and reply to them...

Anyway, for the Brazilian flag: I like the idea, but for me it does remind me too much of the US. I would think Brazil would want to do their best to show that they are their own country, and that they aren't dominated by either America or France. I'm not sure what to do about that, but I'm just stating my opinion.

As for the Portuguese colonies.... *facedesk*

I had completely forgot about them. But, yeah, I think they will become independent countries. Most likely will mean I will make them unstable African dictatorships like OTL. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 16:44, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know I'm going to start sounding really nit-picky, but I think it almost looks too French now...


 * I'm wondering what the flag would look like with simply blue and green on the background, then a gold diamond in the center with the coat of arms in the center of it? Similar, yet not the same as the OTL flag? Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 17:29, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, Katholico


You are the winner of the 2012 Stirling Award for Best Copyeditor. Congrats, and may next year's awards treat you just as kindly! Lordganon 08:44, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome, lol

Feel free to put it on your user page, fyi ;)

Lordganon 03:12, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

No purpose. Lordganon 05:00, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

NW Version of Althistory Wiki
Since KingSweden is not avilable, I thought I discuss to you about something.

I propose creating a page for a Napoleon's Wolrd version of the Althistory Wiki. It will also contain the alternate "bioraphies" of some of the people in this wiki.

What do you think? RandomWriterGuy 04:38, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ignore him, Kath. Lordganon 05:03, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Request Deletion of Page
I've created a new page about my Greater Korean Empire. I'm not too sure of how the policies work on this wikia, as I wish to delete my page, Greater Korean Empire. I was hoping you could do this for me, and thank you in advance. Myeongseong15 17:02, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Re: UCA Question
Thank you for that information. I actually will try to keep that information during editing, but after playing through the game a bit more (now up to 01/01/1916) and Peru has annexed the former Peru-Bolivian State, I'm going to change it back to the Republic of Peru (where-as I might make Chile into Chile-Bolivia)

I'm planning on manipulating events around a bit so that Chile will wage a war with Peru over Bolivia. I might do that while the USCA is involved in the Great War in Europe and Africa, since 4 of the 8 GP's are at war now in game (as of 1917)Razgriz 2K9 23:52, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

The very same. I'm using Victoria 2 to make the basis and once the game ends in 1936, I just make stuff up as I go along to fill in the next 65 years. Razgriz 2K9 01:15, January 29, 2012 (UTC)