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Knowledge
So clicking "minor edit" doesn't actually hide your edit? Mr.Xeight 22:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I've been living a lie for monts... :/ Mr.Xeight 22:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

They disappear if you select them to, I let them remain. Louisiannan 13:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Time off
I'm going to take some time off from the wiki. I need to cool off before I say something stupid. Sorry to sound mysterious, but maybe you'll figure out what I'm talking about. Mitro 02:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind message. As you can see I returned earlier then expected, a friend of mine talked some sense into me about patience and not letting people get to you.  I will though be gone for most of the weekend so I can study for an Entertainment law final, but until then I hope to focus on my new article: .  Mitro 19:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Likem96
Bo, something needs to be done about Likeme96. I mean he doesn't even have a username any more, he's made himself into a timeline. He also finds it neccessary to vandalize France by putting the info from some alternate France from sort of alien vs. man video game. That's copy right infringement, is it not? He didn't take the hint with the three ban, so what next? Mr.Xeight 18:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikibreak
after yesterdays outburst me and MR.Xeight decided you should tke a months wikibreak so you can chill out BTW your contributions at 1983: Doomsday have not gone unnoticed thanks (unsigned by Owen1983)


 * I'm sorry but who exactly are you? I never decided anything on whether Mr. Arthur needs a break. Don't you think it should be up to MR. ARTHUR himself and not YOU?


 * What do you want him gone so you can screw around with 1983:Doomsday?

Mr.Xeight 21:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Owen wrote that. I'm not sure what he was thinking, considering Louis is the creator and an admin of this wiki.  I think he is upset because Louis disagreed with him, but I'm not sure how you got dragged into this Mr. X.  Mitro 22:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess you know as much as I do on this situation, Mitro. I think I might follow your example and take a wikibreak before I revert back to my past-self. Mr.Xeight 22:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I just kind of scratched my head and said, "Hm." I'm not going anywhere. Louisiannan 13:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't even know what this was about but one thing i know is arguments arent goin to do the TL any good so im cool with everyone --Owen1983 15:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you not know what this is about Owen? You are the one who wrote it!  Mitro 20:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Egypt
My bad, for some reason I thought it was still a proposal. Mitro 17:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Would it be ok if i added a few more bits to Egypt? --Smoggy80 17:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't you go ahead and put them here, for me to look at before we post them "live" to the main page? Louisiannan 19:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I thought of starting with the initial aftermath of DD in Egypt, thousands of trapped tourists, lack of trade with the rest of the world and the rise of the Islamic Brotherhood.

The population of Egypt in 1987 was 48 million (or so) of which roughly 5.5 million were in Cairo when it was hit by the Israeli's. So i was thinking that maybe 3 million were killed in the initial blast (which i was thinking of 200 kilotonnes groundburst blast) as it hit over mainly residential east Cairo and resulting firestorm. With radiation travelling downstream in the Nile, the water supply for the people downstream of Cairo is poisoned, killing approx 10 million with radiation sickness (and another 5 million over then next few years due to cancer), this radiation practically destroys the ability to farm the land along the Nile downstream of Cairo (for the next 15-20 years) so people start to starve, the chaos that follows and the rise of the warlords (and little bits on each of them, names, dates, areas controlled etc).

Then a section on the foundation of the government and the new capital at New Cairo, the idea of diverting the Nile and it's effects both down its new channel and what happens in the old channel.

Is that ok to start with?--Smoggy80 17:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC) 20:06,


 * :Sounds interesting. Proceed. :) Louisiannan September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Venge
Wow, you're right it is a real, but old, word. I just thought you spelled "avenge" wrong. Now I have a new word to use, haha! Mitro 19:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And thus I infect your ideolect, too! Louisiannan 19:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

IP vandalism
Can you block this IP: User talk:68.121.32.222. All of his recent edits were either vandalism (which I reverted) and bizarre messages on people's talk pages. Mitro 00:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about bothering you again, but User talk:69.106.206.225 is doing the same vandalism as the last IP. Mitro 16:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Same guy: User talk:69.111.180.153. Mitro 21:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Excellent, my master plan has worked **evil laughter**! Seriously though, thank you for this responsibility. I promise to use it sparingly and only for the right reasons and not allow my emotions to get the better of me. Mitro 23:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

edit from wikia
im sorry, I didnt Know i womt do again

Alternative_History:Featured_alternate_history
will you submit all the previously featured timeline ?--Marcpasquin 19:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Republic of Lincoln

 * I tried to stay true to the original flag of Chicago, while also adding new features that would represent the changes since Doomsday. I didn’t really care for the flag myself once I had finished it, but I decided to post it anyway for comment. The red is meant to represent the blood that was spilled during the civil war involving the three mobs, while the florescent blue was already there, representing the divisions within the city by bodies of water. If you have any ideas for improvement, I am all ears. I have seen some of your flags and am flabbergasted by the awesome job you have done. Lahbas 22:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Roundel V Banner
Realismadder designed one, but there was never any consensus that we were going with it over the banner. Personally I’m in favor of the banner only because it is more noticeable and it has links to the Featured AH nomination page. If you want I can establish a poll and see what the consensus is? Mitro 15:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Mitro 16:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Cryptic Rédaction
Hey, Dan. Je suis en train d'écrire en français d'une certaine manière très particulière d'utilisateurs de l'Angleterre ne peut pas lire cela. Je pense que vous pouvez deviner qui il est, il se bloque autour de 1983: DD. Quoi qu'il en soit, il dit Mitro droit, il perd contact avec la réalité. Pouvez-vous lui parler et lui dire que l'atténuer? Rappelez-vous, je ne vais pas pour une interdiction permanente, seule une simple parle. Oh, et je suis désolé si la grammaire de ce message est atroce, je suis l'aide de Google Translate, je ne peux pas parler un mot de français:)

Observe, John Mr.Xeight 01:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Rule Britannia
Just wanted to explain my deletions of the Rule Britannia articles. Apparently the work was put up without the author's permission (see http://www.alternatehistory.com/Discussion/showthread.php?t=30473&page=34). Mitro 02:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable to me. Louisiannan 14:14, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

thanks
just to say Thanks for correcting my article BTw what was the conversation about you and Mr X and why have I been dragged in to this enyways I have to much to do to bother with this thing besides stuff like this is not going t do the TL any good --Owen1983 23:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Concernant l'article Owen83 dans les 1983 densités doubles parlez la page
ceci s'est produit il y a un mois et certaines personnes ont lu l'itput deux et deux ensemble et cinq faits et signalé lui sur les personnes de page de 1983DD tak le lisent obtiennent provoqués et la réponse causant un wicn d'argument n'aide pas l'OMI de TL que ceci doit--Owen1983 16:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Owen, mate, I have no clue what you're getting at here -- and I'm pretty sure you wrote something in English and then translated it. All the same, I presume this is your apology -- let's just move forward?  No reason for this wiki to turn into a drama wiki. Louisiannan 17:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

It's time
Once again I've offended various parties of the Conculture Group and I think it's time I leave for awhile, especially since school begins tomorrow. If you would kind enough, I'd be most thankful if you'd watch over IB Greece, maybe even making tidbits or even whole articles and ideas for the page, I think IB Greece and myself were never compatible to begin with. I hope you would also like to watch over my althist things as well. Again, I don't think an online email can express the thanks I'd like to give for your great help and mentoring :) You've also inspired to read about the LDS Church and the history of Joseph Smith, I find it quite interesting, which is really a step for me expanding beyond the various works of Orthodox Christianity.

Ben I'd also like to thank you, you were there to help me when I believed IB was not big enough for Athos and Greece. I truly would like to thank you for taking time out to show me all the events from another view than my "it's not my fault" attitude. I'm also reading an online article on Orthodoxy ad Lutheranism, it's quite a good read :)

Mitro, though I've know you the shortest of all, I'd like to say, you're a great AltHistorian, keeping DD in shape. If you'd like to pop in on DD Greece, or even think of ideas ortake it over, I'd like that very much.


 * I'm sorry Ben and Mitro I haven't placed these messages on your talk pages, I really have to draft up notes starting from 33,000 BCE North America to the time of the British heyday in America.

Mr.Xeight 21:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

MC Prank
Please unblock me man Its a request

Brass
Thank you, its good to know that my plan to overthrow you and establish an empire that encompasses the entire multiverse is in my grasp. ;-) Mitro 13:54, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Spain
That's fine. I removed it originally because the way the article is currently going Spain is divided into several states so the info-box really didn't fit well. Mitro 18:03, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Algeria (1983: Doomsday)
Are you planning on doing anymore work on Algeria (1983: Doomsday)? I'm trying to clear out the proposal category because it is starting to get very large. Mitro 16:47, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm done. Louisiannan 19:12, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Saguenay War
You might want to see Talk:2009 Saguenay War (1983: Doomsday). I'm concerned with the direction the war is being taken and I would like to hear your opinion.. Mitro 17:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Louisiannan, thanks for the welcome, and the introductory info on the wiki. I'll take a day or so to get myself acquainted with the lay of the land (so to speak). I hope my contributions will enhance an already excellent timeline your group has created.--BrianD

No problem
An alternate history of a two-term JFK has always fascinated me

I performed 2 rollbacks
since i now what I am doing could you make mu a constable in the TSPTF --Owen1983 17:31, December 5, 2009 (UTC)]]
 * The TSPTF takes nomination and approval, Owen. You can put your name out there for consideration under the nominee page. Dr. Cayne Armand 18:57, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Great Rapprochement
I know you made the Viva California TL so I wanted your blessing in the Great Rapprochement. This TL starts with a POD within VC. The idea is that Britain sides with the USA in the Spanish Americas War. This begins a cycle that forms an alliance between the US and UK. Bob 17:47, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a look, Bob. Louisiannnan

Where did you get the maps in Viva California. They are very good and I want to use similar ones. Bob 20:37, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * I made them, actually. What did you have in mind?  Louisiannnan 21:12, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow! I have made a map of the world post ww2.GR-postww2.png Bob 15:48, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll gussy this one up. May I suggest we slow down the pace and explore further each war and the resulting changes?  I don't think we should go charging forward in time until we're sure what each change would cause.   Louisiannnan 20:53, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Charitwo
Someone by the name of "Charitwo" deleted the Main page. He says he works for Wikia and that it was an accident, but I figured you should be told about it. Mitro 15:56, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
Have you seen what is happening with the infoboxes? I can't seem to figure out why the images are out of whack. Mitro 14:43, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Haven't noticed - any particular one that's giving you trouble? Louisiannan 18:33, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much any article that uses the Nationinfo template. I've seen several 1983: Doomsday articles not working and Realismander reported on the Main Page that the same is happening with SIADD articles. The problem is it sometimes work and sometimes doesn't. Mitro 18:36, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's really weird. I pulled up  and it looked fine... Louisiannan 19:03, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * is doing it right now, though your right Egypt is not. Mitro 19:06, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's the flags. They're not being forced to a smaller size.  Louisiannan 19:26, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Flag size has never been an issue before though. Even the main template page (Template:NationInfo) is showing problems with the flags.  Mitro 19:35, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * The flag and coat of arms are a bit big, yes. I wonder if Wikia changed a format?  or if some underlying infobox that the template draws from was changed? Louisiannan 19:48, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I remember GT wikia hade the same problem
we had this problem on GTW at first I thaught it was vandelism then i was informed it was a browser issue different browsers interpret formating differently which caused a problem so i investigated it and got it repaired --Owen1983 00:15, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

riley Koomers userpage
I notiiced there is a problem with formating on this page the problem is the side panels apear on the page rather were they are sopposed to be --Owen1983 14:14, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Two user pages
Can we do something about the user pages of User:Missouri Rebel and User:FascistBritan? They are pretty much just a collection of fascist/Nazi symbols (as are their avatars) and I have received complaints about it from other users. Mitro 14:57, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Aside their avatars, have they done anything overtly offensive/aggressive? (just trying to understand the whole of the situation) Louisiannan 15:25, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, as far as I can tell, and that is why I came to talk to you first. It is a passive display of offensive images that has gotten some people riled.  FB did spam my talk page with a bunch of fascist flags, but I think it was an accident because Missouri Rebel himself asked for said flags and he just posted it on the wrong talk page.
 * Wikipedia does regulate what users can put on their user pages. I'm wondering if this is a situation which might require us to do the same.  Mitro 15:38, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

this is not wikipedia its wikia technically these users hav not done anything wron i checked the two user contributions and thay have not vandelized anything if I was a member of the TSPTF I would defer to louis' Bens or Kirstens input before doing anything which i see you have done but I see myself as a cadet at the TSPTF and if you deferto me I would say let it blow over the reason is if you were to act on it the users would see this as politicly motivated this would be damaging to this wiki and the TSPTF --Owen1983 16:02, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Owen stay out of this, you are not a member of TSPTF. Mitro 16:13, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mitro, I'll e-mail you. Thanks for being willing to help, Owen - we've got it in hand though. Louisiannan 17:08, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

If I may add my opinion here, I too think we should talk to these two users. Though one may argue not all alternate-histories are nice, and someone is going to be interested in an Axis-run world, there is a line to be crossed. Using a swastika for your avatar picture is definately beyond "the line". Mr.Xeight 17:11, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

ok louis --Owen1983 17:35, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * I must admit that I'm quite hesitant when it comes to censoring and banning political symbols, even when they represent ideologies as despicable as the ones discussed. I'd personally support banning hate speech and personal attacks on the wiki (though those would have constituted valid reasons for issuing a ban anyway) but would oppose formal rules against symbolism. Such rules would inevitably one day lead to tiresome discussions on whether or not other political symbols such as hammers and sickles or circle a's of the extreme left (or even the flag of China) are allowed, and I just honestly don't want to know how these discussions will end up. A request to remove these pictures is in order I'd say, but no formal rules against them. --Karsten&#160;vK (talk) 18:06, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

France Template

 * I like it. Mitro 23:22, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks. I saved it here because it didn't seem to save the first two times I tried to save it under the template and I didn't want to lose my work, so I saved a copy here. Louisiannan 00:07, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

NAU/Utah talks
I have been playing around with the idea of the NAU offering membership to neighboring nations. Since you are the character of Utah, I am wondering whether you think Utah would be interested in joining the union? Mitro 23:34, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Heya, Mitro. I'll say this for Utah - they're looking for allies that are stable and well grounded, but they're also not necessarily willing to lose their sovereignty, so it would depend on the NAU's timetable and what sort of membership offer they posit. I'd say that Utah might be willing to go along with it if it meant mutual defense, free trade, and retained autonomy, but they might also be reticent to join because of the strongly bellicose nature of Superior and Vermont and Virginia - Utah wouldn't want to be sucked into a war half a continent away, after all.
 * I would say that any such overture would take a "national" vote, and likely would have to be extended to Utah and Dinetah, since they seem pretty chummy from Utah's persepctive, at least. Any such overture would likely take a year to bring into line. Louisiannan 23:44, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well the NAU is a DD-version of the EU, with a few differences due to the close cooperation of at least two of the states. The three member states (PUSA, Canada and Lakotah) all maintain their independence so I think Utah would be able to as well. I was thinking of using the discussion about the railroad to the MSP as a springboard for Utah being offered membership with the NAU. As for the timetable, well realisticly they wouldn't become full members right away. There would be negotiations between all 4 states but it would probably become official after a few years. Also Superior, Vermont and Virginia are too far away for the NAU to be even considering offering them membership. Mitro 23:51, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * So much the better says I (and Utah). I like the idea. I also like the idea of the railroads, especially because of the control it will give Utah over the region, more of a powerplayer, and such and that will appeal to the population, because they'll be able to have a greater input on events. I vote you move forward with the idea.
 * My thoughts are that with the more plentiful supply of coal for electricity and coal, that will be devoted to transit types, and that gasoline and oil production will be reserved for the government because of its relative scarcity. What do you think? Louisiannan 00:03, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * One last thing, how does Dinétah (1983: Doomsday) fit into all of this? Mitro 00:37, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * ShutupNavi and I were working on Dinétah a bit together - it was his idea that the Navajos would restore themselves as a nation state, but they would play along with the Utahns, because the Utahns offered them support, and there were some competing land-claims. They're autonomous, but the do tend to go alone with Utah's positions on the international stage, at least historically, so you'll want to say that envoys were sent to both nations from the NAU, or whatever. Louisiannan 15:21, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

I am all in favor of the NAU and Utah becoming allies but I think expansion into Utah would be a mistakeOwen1983 18:16, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why? The NAU is an organization similar to the EU.  It wouldn't be expanding into Utah, Utah would be joining it voluntarily.  Why would it be a mistake?  Mitro 18:18, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Viva California/Toyotomi Japan
I have had an idea for an althist in which the 1861 of Toyotomi and the 1861 of Viva California collide. I was thinking the Western Hemisphere is Toyotomi and the Eastern Hemisphere is Viva California. Or we could do it by continents. I just wanted your blessing becuase you had something to do with both of them. Bob 11:41, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's hold of on that for a bit, as Toyotomi has recently been taken in hand to rework by Mr. Xeight, who's working extensively with me and the original creator. Since that timeline's in flux, I'd say to wait before you do any sort of mash up. Louisiannan 15:55, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if its being improved maybe I could help. My knowlege of Britain and its empires history could come in handy. And if you don't need my help then thats alright as well. Bob 19:05, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to approach Mr. Xeight about it - he's the one that's running the operation, really. Louisiannan 19:31, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, Mr. Dan, I was always pictured you as the leader, since you were the creator :D
 * I don't know if I want to take credit. Christina only gave me her blessing to carry on, not take over, that's something I reserve for her and you, Mr. Dan. But I was also wondering if we put up our discussions on Aragon, as I think we have a good amount that be converted into info. I still haven't looked up what "Bissau" and "Angola" mean, perhaps would could just change "Guinea-Bissau" to plain "Guinea", the generic term that appears to be the same in all Romance languages. My birthday is tomorrow night, so I'll quite busy tomorrow, but most of Saturday and all of Monday I have free.
 * I was thinking about how many Byzantine-succesor states there are. The "best" case scenario is that a small area around Constantinople, the Peloponnesos, Epirus, many of the Aegean Islands, and even Attica and the rest of southern Greece are spared. The worst-case scenario is only the Despotate of Moreos holding only the Peloponessos and some Aegean Islands wrestled from the Italians. I was also thinking about how much autonomy the majority-Greek United Islands of the Aegean have, perhaps something like the Olympics; Hong Kong having its own team while still being part of China. So the Islands are part of Japan, yet have their own representation in the Federation of Japanese States.

Whew, that was a lot of typing! Mr.Xeight 23:35, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

And here's a map. I recently added the Aragonese possessions, Africa, Oman, and changed Russia's colour. Mr.Xeight 16:06, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

If the time comes would it be alright for me to create a nation of my own. So long as it fits into QSS and QAA. Bob 19:40, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking about doing a page for a British government-in-exile that would inevitably be formed thanks to all the revolutions my homeland has had. What do you think? Bob 22:09, March 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll leave that to Mr. Xeight - he's got just as much vested interest and say in the timeline in my opinion. Louisiannan 22:34, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words, Mr. Dan, but am I really up there with you and Ms. Christina? I mean so far I've focused on Aragon and the Despotate(s) in Greece, and African colonial holdings of the various powers. I mean since you are the original creator, a great deal of power is vested in you, but shouldn't Ms. Christina have a say in where I fit in all of this? Mr.Xeight 22:46, March 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think she'd prefer Miss, being an unwed senorita, after all. And I think she wouldn't object.  And having seen your generally even-keeled nature on other alternate histories, I have no problem elevating you to such a level - you know QSS and QAA and you're careful with things.  You're not prone to the wild changes that many newly interested althistorians fall prey to. Louisiannan  23:20, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Making alt hists.
Is it ok to use some stuff from real alt histories? I was thinking of a TL inspired by Fatherland, but I thought I should make sure it's ok to do so first.

I'd rather not have it deleted.

Todyo1798 18:15, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

A problem with the Wiki.
Hey there, I'm KaiserElectric, a new member of the wiki. I'm contacting you with a problem.

I'm working on a new althistory that I attempted to add to the contents page, but due to problems with my PC it majorly glitched the D section of the page. I'm just contacting you to apologize for my accident and tell you that I am not attempting to vandalize the wiki. Again, I apoligize for my mistake. Thanks for listening!

KaiserElectric

hey
Hi i don't know how you do things around here do i just create a country or alternate history thing but it linking to other tyhings and stuff? thanks!Marcus Villanova 23:32, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Marcus, you can choose to participate in existing Alternate Histories or create your own. Many people choose to participate in shared althistories, like 1983: Doomsday before striking out on their own - others do it the other way around.  Before you get to participating too heavily, I would suggest you read the following:
 * What is Alternate History
 * Conventions in use in this wiki &
 * QSS and QAA


 * These will all give you a good idea of how to best participate. Otherwise, let me or any of the other administrators know if you have questions! Louisiannan 18:02, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Greetings from Rus
Hello Lou, (Not signed in at the moment),

I've adopted the Knights Resurgent page, and I am very much in need of assistance in learning more.

Having difficulty learning in the Sandbox, but hopefully, I'll get my bearings soon. I will always welcome input and suggestions in how to make the page look better.

Thanks for your message and look forward to talking to you soon. (Rus Le Dux.)

A NAU floater bar
Sure but that is going to leave 4 bar on the PUSA page (NAU, PUSA states, North America and 1983DD). How do we make it so that all the bars can be minimized? Mitro 19:28, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yes Obi-Wan
Fair enough. I prefer the term apprentice if you want to call me something. Also, do you do anything with IIIL Bethasiad? Because its a cool thing!HAD 21:55, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Me Stoopid
I'm a total fool. You obviously do things with IB, because your user page says so. If only i could become a member, because IB wiki is no where near as "tidey" as 1983:Doomsday. They need a janitor to correct spellings, improve images, etc.HAD 22:00, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
I see that I am now titled the "Grand Vizier of the Temporal Karma". Cool, I like that title. So when do I get my new handy-dandy bureaucrat powers? Mitro 13:31, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

7th French Republic
I have been writing some info for the on French reunification. Check it out and please comment since you are main force behind this idea. Mitro 19:34, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good, herr Grand Vizier! When does your wikibreak start? Louisiannan 23:12, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sometime near the end of May. Mitro 02:57, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Republic of North Florida
Zack is moving to graduate. Since there has been some issue about whether the plausibility singularity has been reached in North America, you might want to check this out. Mitro 21:58, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

check out my tl
hey it's me remember i took your advice and started my own spiced up toyotomi tl.please look it up.

it is called pax japan.

sorry forgot to leave my signature (Oronos2 08:14, May 2, 2010 (UTC))

Would you be interested in playing The Newer Map Game. Just read the rules and look at the first couple sections. Signed by Calthrina950

Would you please read and give me some ideas on the Russian Expansion Timeline. --Catherine 00:36, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Balkanized North America is a blatant plagiarism of the Crimson Skies video game. For proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Skies

KingSweden 20:34, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Problem
The person by the name of Calthrina950 is harassing people to either post in a map game OR to view her article, which I can see you where contacted above for help on. for instance where is an argument over when a person by her perspective should post (which is immediately after her 79% of the time):

[argument between Yankovic270 and Cathrine 950]

[Catrhne950]

TOO LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 * My lord, man. You are taking soo damn long!!!!!!!!!!!! --Catherine 18:07, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fuck. Don't you tell me to fuck myself any-time soon. --Catherine 18:32, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fuck you, child-like Canadian. Since you called me a Yankee bitch, I might as well call you a royalist bastard, kissing the Queen of fuckin England's hand, and saying "Oh My Majesty, you are the supreme ruler, oh god lord...............god god god, you have all the prestige and honor." --Catherine 19:04, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * How dare you say something about my country! For all I know, the queen heavily influences the government of England, and she says "The Prime ministers runs the government in my name" while the bastards go up and ask her "advice", in which she says "I want you to sign that treaty" or "I won't let you pass that law". --Catherine 19:15, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

[Yankovic270]

''' Wat? (this is about posting as you can tell) '''


 * I don't even play Europe: 1430...Smallpox 20:58, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do I have to post like clockwork? I'll post when I feel like it!


 * Yankovic270 01:21, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't feel like playing the Human Evolution map game any more, sorry...Smallpox 02:15, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * And neither do I. I tried to be polite to you, but I have had enough! You can go fuck yourself for all I care. Just leave me the hell alone!


 * Yankovic270 18:22, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * God. You must love to hear yourself talk, don't you? You aren't the boss of me. Freedom of Speech. Bossy Yankee bitch! And don't you think I care what you think. As far as I'm concerned, I want nothing more to do with you.


 * Yankovic270 18:41, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I said before, leave me the fuck alone! It's the behaivor of people like you that gives the Americans such a bad name. And as far as I'm concerned its the Prime Minister who's the leader of Canada, not the queen. I am not a royalist, and as far as I'm concerned it is you who is acting like a child.


 * Yankovic270 19:14, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Then why is it any different when you say something bad about my country? Ever since WWI we have been thinking for ourselves. The Queen's influence on the Canadian government is now more symbolic than anything. The British Monarch is a figurehead if haven't figured that out allready! Typical ignorant American. Knows pretty much everything about your own country, but when it comes to even nearby countries your knowlege becomes zilch. That's why Rick Mercer's "Talking to Americans" act is so effective. It's because you are so goddamn stupid.


 * Yankovic270 19:24, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

--DaBigUn 19:36, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

It Continues
I dont know how they cant just find even ground, but, whatever.--DaBigUn 19:36, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * We have a very bad problem. I don't think it can be solved. Both of us have half/half responsiblity for it. --Catherine 19:38, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I will say that it's a good thing you recognize you have part in the problem. Many people here refuse to admit any part in a problem, Catherine.


 * I'm of half a mind to ban you both for a short time simply for the incivility. I won't do it just yet - I'll give you some time to pull it together. If there's no way that you can both be grown up and find common ground on the project, one of you should leave it, or fork it and do it your own way.  I'm not here to parent people - you should be adult enough and diplomatic enough to know when to back off.


 * Your options are to 1) find common ground, 2) fork the timeline, 3) One of you stop "playing" with that timeline, or 4) I ban you both for a month so you can cool off. Louisiannan 22:15, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

History of the World (No Supernatural Intervention)
I think this article needs to be removed from the wiki. It clearly violates th "No Cross, No Crown" rule of the wiki. The rule says that no articles may bear the writer's religious or political views, and officially atheisim is recognized as a "religion" of sorts. Plus the events described in it are based on the events described in the bible, not those of the history books.

Yankovic270 15:38, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

League of Nations World Heritage Sites
Hi, may you put some sites with their photos on the League of Nations World Heritage Sites of 1983: Doomsday, please and thank you. VENEZUELA 02:08, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Caltharina went crazy
You being the head guy here, could you take a look at 1430 (the map game) and just give me your opinion on the recent changes by Caltharina, the owner of the game, to the timeline? She says that it's well within her rights to do whatever she wants, (namely have Bohemia take over every nation in Europe in one year) simply because she's the owner of the game. She still does have to follow the rules of the game she owns, right?

Also, it's not really a map game if someone goes around deleting peoples posts and writing random stuff, it's just some bored person playing around on a computer.

Respectfully,

BoredMatt 00:32, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure about my actions. As a owner of a map game, you should have supreme, untrammeled authority over that map game. --Catherine 00:35, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

In my beliefs, I agree, but if you refuse to even follow your own rules then it makes no sense to play the game. The entire point of the map games is to learn about history and have fun, not to piss off people by writing something that could never phisically happen. It's almost on the scale of when someone edited in the transdeminsional space monster on the original map game. It's not a game anymore if you don't play by the rules. And the admins should be able to roll back the years if something gets messed up. Such as Caltharina's mind.

BoredMatt 00:41, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * The map game is solely under one's control. It cannot be untrammeled by other sources. As the owner of Europe 1430, I have authority. --Catherine 00:44, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * To Bored Matt, I'd say if Catherine doesn't want to follow her own rules, then don't play with her.
 * To Catherine, you've gotten yourself quite the public dislike, Catherine - this isn't the first time your name has been brought up in connection with some map game. If you really want to play map games by yourself, I'd say continue on ahead. The idea of this wiki is to cooperate. If you don't want to cooperate and collaborate with people, you might do better on another site.
 * In all honesty, I'm not that thrilled about having the map games here, but the other TSPTF folks aren't in favor of kicking you all out - so you can stay for now. Louisiannan 19:35, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well one member of the TSPTF would be in favour of it; I'm just itching to tell the site "I told you so" when I addressed on the talk page of the first map-game a few months back, of course in the end even I thought that everything would turn out allright. Guess I was wrong, eh? Mr.Xeight 06:04, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Monaco (1983: Doomsday)
Would you mind if I worked on your article on Monaco a little bit, such as adding the COA and stuff? I know asking you is a violation of the 3-month policy we are supposed to follow for 1983: Doomsday, but I've recently begun to expand the former "micronations" in Europe and thought it would look nicer with an updated map and things. Arstarpool 18:41, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * If anything they would be pretty much like the current ones here. And that's fine if you'd like to add those. Louisiannan 05:17, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

New TSPTF Members
We recently had a discussion on the main talk page on the possibility of adding new members. Since Mitro and Karsten are gone, and Mr. Xeight recently renounced his membership, I thought it would be a good idea to raise some hell on the main talk page. Tell me if you think the idea has any merit. Arstarpool 13:42, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Problems with another User
The user VENEZUELA is deleting my posts, hacking into polls, and using his real-life "buddies" to help him canonize an article that has been marked obsolete TWICE, both times without any changes being made. Please take action immediatley if you are not busy. Arstarpool 19:24, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Concerns
Hello Louis. Under the request of Ben, he sent me a conversation between you, Villa, and Mitro. This concerns the apparent fact that I "nominated" myself to become an admin? For your information, I was elected by two other members. I admittedly made a smart-ass comment on the first poll we did on the main talk page, but I changed it and I am now tied with Yankovich. Vlad and Oer both stated that I should be elected to admin. I am not going to fight your decision but bring this up with Mitro and Villa Cruoina. Arstarpool 17:50, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply put, you rub me the wrong way. You always have. It's not personal, I'm not out to attack or ruin your life. To not mince words, Arstarpool, I've not been a fan of your brashness, and quite frankly, I don't feel like you're as level-headed as I'd like admins to be. I'm not a fan of Yankovich either. And regardless of who nominated you, you honestly don't strike me as measuring up to the standards of the original admins.
 * All of the original admins came from the Ill Bethisad Project. They understood cooperation. They understood being level-headed and not blowing their top. They showed respect to other contributors. In many ways, I feel like you have not embodied these attributes.
 * Simply, and most importantly, you don't understand QSS and QAA. You and Yankovich and so many of the others blatantly disregard the rules that allow large group alternate histories to work and that have heretofore made this wiki an enjoyable place to be. As such, I don't feel like you're qualified to be an admin in that regard.
 * I'm honestly to the point of washing my hands of this entire wiki and letting Ben and the others do with it as they please, so if you're "elected" I hope you'll take some interest in the things I've mentioned above. Louisiannan 06:13, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, no offence to Ar or Yank, but you just stole the words from my tongue.--Smallpox 13:12, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Some rules...
I could not find a direct administrator for this wiki, so I though I'd ask you. I'm not a registered user yet. I like alternate history. But what I plan to post I also have as pieces I hope to publish. Could I still be able to post without my ideas being plagiarized?


 * Elements of stories are often recycled - look up tropes. I think that you might do well to present parts of the alternate history you plan to write for input from others, but not put the entire story here, all together.  Does that make sense? Louisiannan 06:06, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

SNU
Louis, sometime ago you expressed concerns about my SNU article. I would like very much to move it forward towards graduation given how long it has been a proposal. As I have mentioned to Ben I am willing to make some changes to it to address concerns both of you had expressed in the past. However, in order to do this I am running into some problems which I have laid out on my discussion page. I realize you are busy, but could you take a quick look and give me your imput. I am still interested in working with regards to a Spokane War second front involving the SNU/UT/Spokane as well. Thanks for your time.--Fxgentleman 00:16, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Louis: When you have the chance, please take a look at my proposals on the SNU discussion page and let me know your feelings. Thanks.--Fxgentleman 03:07, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Louis, have you had a chance to look over my proposal regarding the SNU eastern borders? Thanks.--Fxgentleman 04:19, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

I've actually had a hard time tracking it down. Could you link me to the particular sub-section so I can look it over? Louisiannan 03:23, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Sorry about the delayed response, I am currently on vacation in northern NV and am only checking the site as time allows. The link is http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sierra_Nevada_%281983:_Doomsday%29 Just go down to the section labeled rewriting article and go to the last section of it where you see the map I placed. I will check back in later today if I can or Thursday. Thanks.--Fxgentleman 17:35, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know that I am finally getting around to posting the revised map for Sierra Nevada based on our discussions last August. It took me some time to get back to it given other matters. If I have made any errors in redrawing it, please let me know and I will fix them. By the way, I would like very much to revist our previous discussions on when and how the SNU and Utah would make contact and maybe establish relations. So, please let me know your thoughts. I am way overdue in expanding the history of my article and this is one area I would like to address. Thanks. --Fxgentleman 03:00, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

I Need Your Assistance
Louis, I apologize for bothering you with this, but since you are a member of the Brass I have got a problem and need a judgement call from you and the others in TSPTF Brass section. Rather than explain my situation, please read the last several entries in the SNU discussion section on the main page and it will lay out my concerns. What Yank is telling me makes no sense and seems contrary to what I thought was the spirit of the wiki. Thanks. --Fxgentleman 03:20, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Misunderstanding w/ Orleans
Are you the caretaker of Orleans? I adopted the page from Yank. If you had done so at an earlier date, then it looks like we have a misunderstanding. Arstarpool 14:47, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Everything French in 1983DD I've long held as mine to shape. Yank, as usual has overstepped his bounds. Everything French and Utah-related is something I take a very active interest in, and while I may not flesh out the articles as much as Yank may like, they're fleshed out enough for my feeling of the dystopian timeline. It suffices to look at the edits, and you'll see that I've put in most of the work on every single one of them. Louisiannan 20:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * So am I the official caretaker or not? I was the one who asked him, and he let me adopt it, but since you added a lot of it it looks like you are a caretaker too. Arstarpool 22:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, Arstarpool, let's spell this out.
 * I created all of France's nations.
 * I accepted some of Yank's contribution, but,
 * Yank was never the caretaker to begin with.
 * Yank had no right to let anyone take over, because it wasn't his to begin with.
 * Orleans is mine, so, A) thanks for your interest, but B) I have matters in hand, thank you, I won't be needing someone to caretake something I'm caretaking. Louisiannan 03:30, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Algeria
might I do a list of the city states from Algeria i the Algeria page? VENEZUELA 02:08, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Please? VENEZUELA 05:32, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * On which timeline, Venezuela? Louisiannan 05:53, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

1983 Doomsday. VENEZUELA 22:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Knock yourself out, V. Louisiannan
 * What? VENEZUELA 03:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * It means, go right ahead, you have my blessing, make the list of cities that you're apparently very interested in doing. Louisiannan 03:47, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

TSPTF Responsibilities
If you are receiving this message, you are a member of the TSPTF. In an effort to keep this wiki in tip-top shape, I have made a list of responsibilities on the TSPTF page that I hope you all volunteer to do (at least three of them). If we work together we can make this place into a quality wiki. Mitro 22:17, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Arstarpool
This user has constable rights but has acted in a number of ways since early summer that not only appear to serve his own purposes but make him difficult to work with at best. Very recently he has created a number of gateway articles for 1983:DD that should be open for all editors to use, but writes them as if he is setting editorial policy for the entire timeline. One example is Alabama, in which he huffs that "Brian and South(Writer) took it over pretty much on their own initiative...so I renounce having anything to do with it" The latest example is having the Celtic Alliance condemn a British survivor nation for heinous crimes, and writing an item on the wcrb news page...then pulling the item, and the section of the main talk page discussing the matter after leaving a message saying it was a joke. I am tired of this activity. This is extremely unprofessional and, if it remains unchecked, could cause significant problems later on, including good, quality editors leaving who don't want to deal with the nonsense. --BrianD 03:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Make sure that you share this with Mitro and the others. Louisiannan 03:53, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have, Louisiannan. BrianD 04:06, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mitro
I removed the proposal banner from the Kingdom of Albion (1983: Doomsday) page and replaced it with an obsolete banner after been advised by Smoggy80 and he threatened to block me --Owen1983 11:24, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * No Owen, that is not what I warned you about. I warned you about removing the obsolete banner from the Republic of Bury article, or did you forget that you did that yesterday?  Mitro 13:41, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

successful nomination
as I successfully nominated Smoggy80 can i become a member of the TSPTF --Owen1983 23:14, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

ignore this --Owen1983 16:10, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Owen again
just to let you know

i've tried talking (even rationalising) with owen about Provisional United Kingdom (1983: Doomsday) he's still trying a land grab against canon again is there anything we can do about him? he just doesn't seem to get it! and it's really starting to annoy everyone now--Smoggy80 17:06, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Monaco
I was wondering could I adopt Monaco from you? Arstar 03:16, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * No. But thanks for asking.

Space Shuttle Columbia crisis (New Union)
I am still working on the page. It clearly states that on the top of the page. It also states that those other than me should not edit or add to it. So until I say it is done, I don't want anyone editing or adding to my page. Please refrain from editing it, even if you think it is right. --NuclearVacuum 23:50, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * To be fair, you did hit the edit button and change something on the page. That is considered editing. --NuclearVacuum 14:15, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Basque Country/Euskara
Hey Louis. You've listed yourself as being contributor for, and I've contacted Tristianbreiker, who is the creator/other caretaker for these works, but I have not gotten reply, as he has not come on for some time now. I am of Basque ancestry, and have been studying the peculiar language and culture for a couple of months now, buying a couple of books, and read a great deal on Wikipedia. I don't know how much you studied the area, but the article is currently around 5,000 bytes (which is the de facto "stub" size for an article) and I'd like to expand that. I know you've rejected my offers on two of your articles so far but this one, this one I do know a lot about.

I will make few to no changes to the established canon parts, mostly add-ons in the culture and other sections. Thoughts? I mean, it appears Tristian is the main caretaker, but I'm run it by you since you have vested some info into this one too. Regards, Arstar 02:59, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Provided that you do limit it to the culture and society sections, I don't know that I would have a terrible concern with it. I think the Socio-political stuff you should definitely wait for Tristan to resurface.  Thank you for your polite approach.  In essence, have at - flesh out the article a bit. Louisiannan 01:47, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF Call Out
Hi. If you are receiving this message it is because you are a member of the TSPTF, but did not respond to the TSPTF Call Out. If you still consider yourself an active member, please leave a short message on the TSTPF talk page. If you do not feel you can be an active member of the TSTPF, please leave a message at the TSPTF talk page or contact me with your retirement notice. If you do not respond to this message, you will be marked as an inactive member. Thank you for your service to this wiki. Mitro 16:21, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Viva California Idea
I would like to make Viva California into a map game, so since you are the timelines original creator, I am asking for your permission. You would be one of the two moderators, i would be the other, you however, would have seniority over me in moerator status, please get back to me when you can.

Thanks,

DeanSims 00:48, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Celtic lands in France
As you know the Celtic Alliance has lands in parts of Lower Normany and Brittany, I was wondering if you would mind if the two areas were linked together? the Duchy of Orléans currently has claim to the area but no way of controlling it.

Also I would like to reunite all of Lower Normany, and possibly the rest of Normany, which is currently claimed by Lille-et-Terres-Flamande, which are in the same position as the Duchy of Orléans.

Does this sound OK to you?

I would still have to run this by the other OBN editors as we've effectively started editing the Celtic Alliance page jointly.

--Smoggy80 16:39, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Over the past couple of weeks i've been looking at the maps and if the CA uses the rivers to consolodate the boundaries there are a nice set to use, with the River Loire as the southern boundary, and using its tributary the River Sarthe as its eastern boundary with a short land boundary to the source of the Eure River (also used as an eastern boundary) and then follow it to the sea as the River Seine.



This would also give a solid boundary with Orleans. What do you think? --Smoggy80 10:03, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

As I've heard nothing back I've set the boundaries as above.--Smoggy80 18:09, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Almost forgot his will make the boundary with La République Poitevine (1983: Doomsday) the River Loire as well--Smoggy80 11:03, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Algeria 1983 DD
I was wondering if you had any plans for the city states of Tamanrasset and Tamahaq in the south of Algeria? its just i edit the Niger, well the Maradikasa page now and i would like to set up borders inside the former nation of Niger as Maradikasa only controls the south.--Smoggy80 17:30, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

As i've heard nothing i'm assuming thats ok, I'll add the relevent section in the Niger, Maradikasa pages --Smoggy80 11:23, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Duchy of Orleans
Why is the leader of the Duchy of Orleans a Prince? And why did you choose a noble of Monaco when the perfectly legitimate Bourbon pretender was pretty much on the Duchy's doorstep?

Yank 05:59, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Since Louis is unlikely to answer....

He has not been crowned. Thus, a Prince.

This Prince is of the Orleanist line of claimants to the French throne. Not a noble of Monaco. He is the senior member of that branch who has a decent chance of having survived.

The Bourbon claimants, like pretty well all of the Bourbons, lived in Madrid. Pretty well all of them are dead.

Lordganon 07:09, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I was just wondering...I recently joined the Principia Moderni (Map Game) and took over Berlin. However, I'm a bit confused. I don't see where Berlin is exactly on the map. Also, I do not know anything about my country or what I should/am suposed to do. Could you help me out please? Thanks.