Congress of Geneva (Congress of Vienna Map Game)

This is the discussion page for the Congress of Geneva in the map game Congress of Vienna.

'''Welcome to Geneva. I am Vinzenz Rüttimann, President of the Swiss Diet, the host of this Congress.'''

We are here to solve the following problems:

We are determined to resolve war in Europe and bring the peace that did not arrive after the Congress of Vienna to Europe.
 * Piedmontese Iceland Problem
 * Turkish lands

Turkish lands
Currently the Ottoman Empire has given away:
 * 1) The Balkan Peninsular, except for Constantinople, to Austria, France, Greece and Russia
 * 2) Holy Land to the Papal States - State of the Church
 * 3) Egypt and the part of Libya to the east of Tripoli to the UK
 * 4) Everything to the west of Tripoli and Tripoli to Piedmont - Sardinia
 * Ottoman Empire: We are determined not to give away any more lands.
 * Naples - Sicily: We awaits a clear and peaceful plan for the Balkan to ensure stability of the region.
 * United Kingdom: This plan seems fair for us and we support any attempt to bring peace to the balkans
 * Sweden: We understand that the Ottomans want to protect their lands, and we defend this right. Stability and peace should be returned to all regions in and around the Ottoman Empire.
 * Russian Empire: We defend our right to continue our war in the Caucasus. By continuing the war to the East, peace for the most part has been brought to Europe, many countries has gained lands, and was gained Christians who suffered oppression by Ottoman rule. We do support peace in the Balkans, and are willing to help defend the ethnicities in our Territories, no matter who fights them. Sweden is a fool for thinking that the Ottoman Empire would want to end this war peacefully. Once they regrow themselves, they will attack Greece, the Balkans, and the Holy Lands, maybe even with cruellty not seen since the Thirty Years' War. And yet, the Swedish were the ones who headlined the attack against our great Empire, and costed us our great Petrograd. I hope the fine nations of Europe here realizes what a priviledge that Russia is doing, by taking war elsewhere, peace is coming to Europe.
 * United Kingdom: The British Empire states that the Ottomans have shown only a desire for peace, while the Russian Empire has continued its attacks. If the Ottomans decide to attack Western civilisation in the future, then we can be certain that the west will unite against the threat. .A threat which so far seems to be under attack by Greece rather than plotting world domination like the Corsican upstart Napoleon.
 * Piedmont-Sardinia: We believe that the Ottomans are a great threat to Europe, especially due to the destruction of the Byzantine Empire, and the Siege of Prauge and offers that the Ottoams relinquish all land in Europe to bring peace, including Istanbul since it is not their rightful land.
 * Russian Empire: While not part of our alliance, we are glad someone agrees with us.
 * Greece will stop fighting in Europe if that is for the greater European good, but would like to keep lands gained. (Izmir and the peninsula it's situated on). Also, what land does France have in the Balkans?
 * Russian Empire: What if we could have you gain Constantinople?
 * Bavaria:(It appears the king was held up in an alpine pass) The king makes the following proposal: 1. The lands designated as French be made into an independent nation under French protection. This makes sense, considering their distance from mainland France and their different ethnic makeup. 2. The Ottomans give up all European land, including Constantinople. That city should become an independent city-state, which would allow freedom of movement, freedom of religion, and would be completely neutral. The Bosphorus would also be neutral.
 * Piedmont-Sardinia: Agrees.
 * Ottoman Empire: We do not want to give away Constantinople, however if you all want to then we have to accept. But we want to keep Caucasus, and let the UK and Sweden guard our neutrality in future conflicts.
 * Bavaria: Agrees that the Ottomans should keep the Caucusus, with a guarantee from France, Britain and Sweden that if Russia attcks, they will defend the Ottomans.

Piedmontese Iceland
'''Since Piedmont - Sardinia occupied Southwestern Iceland, the Northern Alliance launched an attack on that portion. Although those troops withdrew, the situation has not completely been solved.'''
 * Netherlands: Unless Piedmont - Sardinia completely demilitarise this corner of Iceland, we do not promise anything about future attacks.
 * Denmark: Agrees with the Netherlands.
 * Piedmont-Sardinia: I did offer de-militarization in our peace offer to Sweden, and most of our troops are out of the region save for the U.K.'s military base.
 * United Kingdom: Though the UK has decided to remain neutral in this conflict, the military base is considered british territory and will not be returned. Other than the use of the base as a place to station the north fleet, we have no other interest in iceland and who owns it.
 * Sweden: We want peace and have left Iceland.
 * Russian Empire: We consider ourselves neutral in this conflict as well, if Piedmont-Sardinia promises de-militarization of their Icelandic base, then we see no problem of them holding territory there. Otherwise, we too have no interest in the affairs of Iceland.
 * United Kingdom: So the matter is settled, Iceland is to be shared, with Piedmont-Sardinia demiliterising its territory. If you wish i offer the use of the military base as neutral ground to sign the treaty.
 * Piedmont-Sardinia: Iceland will be de-miitarized
 * Bavaria: Agrees to the motion, and recalls whatever Bavarian troops are still in Iceland.
 * Netherlands: Withdraw all troops from Iceland. Also wishes the United Kingdom to guard this peace.
 * Denmark: Withdraw all troops from Iceland.
 * Bavaria: I don't think Denmark should have to withdraw, I mean, Iceland is their colony.
 * Belgium: Withdraw all troops from Iceland.

Italian Confederation

 * Naples - Sicily: We would like to introduc an Italian Federation (like the German one) consisting of Naples, Piedmont, Papal States and Austria. Respond by saying "OK".
 * Piedmont-Sardinia: No

Map proposal
Any nation may propose a map for Europe here.

Note: 'Please put your nation name on heading 3 style. Maps are put on size 250 px.'

Bavarian Proposal
This map outline Bavaria's main proposals:
 * 1) The Balkans: Shared between Russia, Greece, Austria, and Albania (pink), a puppet/vassal/protectorate of France. The French king could even place a relative on the Albanian throne. The independent city-state of Constantinople is in Black.
 * 2) Prussia: The prussian king would not be particularly pleased that he lost his Baltic territories in the Vienna Congress, especially since he was such a staunch opponant to Napoleon. Therefore, in our proposal, it has been returned, and Prussia's southern territories reduced to compensate.
 * 3) Poland: Denmark, by having Poland, is basically tying itself to a corpse. It is a nation with a (sometimes violently)  independent population. Russia had a hard enough time ruling it otl, imagine how little hope Denmark has of keeping it! By my proposal, Poland becomes an independent kingdom/duchy. As compensation, Denmark can nominate the new Polish monarch (perhaps a relative?), and should receive some colonial territory somewhere, eg. the Danish Gold Coast could be expanded.
 * Piedmont-Sardinia: We agree, but believe that Constantinople should perhaps gain some land on the opposite side of Thrace. It is also suggested that it is created as a pure democracy similiar to ancient Greece.
 * Sweden: Ethnic groups in the Balkans, such as Slovaks, Serbs or Croats, should have the right to seek self-representation if they wish, whether this is in the form of a council or an independent state. We agree with all other proposals.
 * Bavaria: That makes sense. The Balkan ethnic groups will have special autonomy within the states they're annexed to. Constantinople could, indeed, be a pure democracy, but I don't understant what you mean by land on  the other side of thrace?

Russian Proposal
Also coming soon.