User talk:Mr.Xeight

WEW
You were talking about moving our history stuff here?Airiph-althist 03:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Nvm, we hve our own private website. All of people here are helping us fine tune what we've got on groups.yahoo.com/ They all worked on how to make the CSA happen and are working on how the Byzantine Empire was able to survive on the site. Mr.Xeight 03:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I found your mapAiriph-althist 03:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That one's old. I'm making one now. China's completely different. I don't want to spoil the surprise. Lot more African free states too. Mr.Xeight 03:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

AS long as my Cape towns stay EXACTLY the sameAiriph-althist 03:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC) I told you, IT'S BIGGER. My eyes are going I can't get it the same so I just expanded it. Mr.Xeight 03:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Then you make it close Ill edit itAiriph-althist 03:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Small pages
What about the small pages you started, like Japanese Empire? --Max Sinister 13:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * What about them?--Mr.Xeight 18:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, they don't have anything of content besides some (admittedly nice) flags. Why don't you add some text to it, and a timeline? Are they supposed to exist in the same world?--Max Sinister 10:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * BTW - your TL The Commonwealth of Nations is pretty short either. If you are still interested in writing this AltHist you are given four weeks time to let us know and to start writing on, otherwise it will be deleted.--Max Sinister 11:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Well I've got too much on my plate, atm :( So for now I think it would be better if I save the flags to one page (the Byzantine's page isn't too short is it?) and come back in the future. Sorry. Hope to be back soon. Mr.Xeight 01:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

New America
Eastern America

Quebec
how loyal it stays depend largely on what happen in France itself. *Here*, many people were horrified when they learned that the king had been executed leading me to believe that they would have probably fought against the republicans had they had not been conquered.Priests, who used to hold a lot of power in the province used to say that the motherland was royalist France not the republican one. Its hard to say if they would have won thought, on one hand the government of France would have had to send lots of troops to quell the insurgency and great-britain might have taken this as an excuse to re-invade Canada. On the other hand you didn't have that many people inhabiting the colony.

If however the government had stayed royalist, you probably would have a pretty loyal province.--Marcpasquin 13:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

heh heh... I guess "assasinators" isn't very good grammar eh? XDUnforgiveable 01:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

EtP: Byzantines
I think I may have found their key to survival in EtP, and it comes from a much stronger Muslim Spain. The Emirate of conquers southern France sometime in the 1100s. The massive European effort to unseat the Muslims in France would mean a totally different course for the Crusades, and the bizarre Constantinople adventure of the 1200s would likely not have happened. That does still leave the Ottomans to contend with farther down the road, but I think EtP will have a strong vibrant East Rome well into the 1400s, at least. Benkarnell 20:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they could survive. If the war was to fan the hatreds of Christians & Muslims even more, that would mean aggression on both sides. Now who would have more soldiers fort their faction, the Middle East, or all of Orthodox & Catholic forces working seperately but for the same goal of the destruction of the Ottomans & Islam. If it so bad, Israel itself could be more influenced by Europe. Mr.Xeight 23:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Huh, you're right about the aggression. Certainly in the new Crusader kingdoms of France: sort of a "Gallic Inquisition" in the 1200s.  I'll have to pursue that Crusade in more detail before I can know how the later ones turn out.  But I definitely like the idea of no Fourth Crusade to Constantinople.  Assuming the Ottomans would still come to power later, the Byzantines would at least still be united, and Greece wouldn't be peppered with miniature despotates and Italian colonies.  I don't think that the crusade in France would necessarily lead to more fanaticism among the Greeks or Turks, though - but probably among the French Christians and Spanish Muslims.  Benkarnell 02:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

But one key factor in the Spanish Inquisition (we're reading The Pit and the Pendulum for Halloween tomorrow so I found out today) is the Spanish saw what happened to Greece and thought along the lines that "These guys are Muslims & Jewish too. That means they're Ottomans and working with them!". Of course there were dozens of other factors, just curious. Of course if we play this very right, could Greece evolve into (albet) (very) small colonial empire in the 1800s? Mr.Xeight 23:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oy, I'm still sooo far from that point :D. All I can say is that EtP will have next to nothing that resembles OTL colonialism.  The Norse are colonizing America in earnest from 1100, but they mainly establish settlements and, later, kingdoms that are independent... it is the 1100s, after all.  German merchants will follow in the later medieval era, and by then Arab merchants of Andalusia might be sailing around as well, I don't really know.  So the colony building going on is more about trade than anything else, and it's not really controlled by anybody.  Medieval Greece/Byzantium was a fairly important exporter even in OTL when the empire was falling apart, so you can bet that a lot of Greek trade goods made it to America.  But I don't believe they were heavily into sailing at that point, were they?


 * After c. 1500 I don't even want to speculate, since by then _everything_ will be so totally different. Benkarnell 02:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * [EDIT]: And I didn't know that about the Inquisition, so I suppose Crusader Gallia couldn't be _exactly_ like Inquisition Spain. And I know that medieval southern France was OTL a very complicated place, religion-wise.  There were a couple of major monastic movements, plus the Cathars (I don't even actuallly know what they believed yet), plus the Waldensians (ditto).  Adding a Muslim conquest and a full-blown Crusade to that mix... look out, I guess.  Benkarnell 04:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I've added a little section at Eleventh Century (Ethelred the Pious). I don't think that anything can happen to change the Battle of Manzikert (1071 is too early for any changes to drift that way). But events in France will definitely change the course of the Crusades, so we won't have Venetians taking the Empire over. Benkarnell 21:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)



Re:German
I speak German... slowly and painfully, but I can do it online OK. Do you need a hand with something? Benkarnell 05:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Have you ever seen one of those signs that tell you're entering the borders of like a city, state, nation etc. I was wondering how would you say "Welcome to the Byzantine Empire" in German? Mr.Xeight 05:28, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Most German signs just say the name of the place you're entering: "Bundesrepublik Deutschland", "Freistaat Bayern", "Berlin", etc. "Now entering Greece" would probably be "Sie treten in das Byzantinisches (or Griechisches) Reich".  "Welcome" would be "Wilkommen in das Byzantinisches/Griechisches Reich".  Benkarnell 17:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just my two cents: That's not correct German (I'm from Germany). This should rather be "Sie betreten nun das Byzantinische/Griechische Reich" and "Willkommen im Byzantinischen/Griechischen Reich". Declination, casi, you know.--Max Sinister 12:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

So really the sign would just be Byzantinisches Reich. Thanks! What's in-store for the German Empire in EtP? Mr.Xeight 18:46, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The Gallic Crusade (in southern France, mid-to-late-1100s) is currently just some doodled maps. But if all goes the way I'm imagining, medieval France disintegrates, with the eastern parts joining the Holy Roman Empire.  That would make "Germany" even more unweildy.  So who knows?  Benkarnell 19:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

PS-1 Kerenaike
Could you post something on our thread on alternatehistory.net about Kerenaike first before posting an article? I just want to make sure that everything doesn't conflict with each other, and the easiest way to do that is to post on this thread: http://alternatehistory.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=109543

Oh yeah sure. Sorry about that. Mr.Xeight 01:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Help
Looking for a person with an immense amount of knowledge on France, or at least a native of France or the Francophone nations. Mr.Xeight 21:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * what do you need ? --Marcpasquin 18:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Franz Lives!
I am working on Franz Lives!, a scenario where Gavrilo Princip's gun malfunctions and thus Franz Ferdinand lives. Could you help? Buk5 21:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

What do you need help with? Mr.Xeight 21:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Just on the Great war, the Russian constitution laid down by Alexei, the Nations in the Space race etc. I am just trying for a less ASB version of princip arrest. Buk5 21:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sure. Any special plans for any nations? Mr.Xeight 01:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

IB.Greece
Do you still keep up with Conculture discussions? The idea of Greeks in Florida has again been floated, take a look: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conculture/message/32638. If you're interested in sketching the details of a plan, now is a good time for it. Benkarnell 03:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Inca flag
sure, just send me the original and I'll see what I can do --Marcpasquin 12:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Mexique
They few difference this would cause in my mind is:


 * a possible escape route for the nobles of France during the revolution
 * a better relationship with the natives as the french didn't have the equivalent of the conquistadors
 * possibly a few major infrastructure projects in the metropole
 * more blacks in mexico with the importation of slave to work in mines and plantation (the french would probably not use the natives)

--Marcpasquin 18:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

What would France call Mexico? I was thinking of making a TL where Napoleon does no go for Russia, but quits while it's ahead, taking everything west of the Confederation of the Rhine, and making everything west of Prussia a puppet states. This and of course much earlier breakaways with France owning Mexico and the Carribean.


 * I'm not sure what exactly this concept of French Mexico is about, but originally the letter x in Mexico did stand for sh-sound (there was no better way to express this sound in Spanish, see Name of Mexico). Therefore the French would spell it Mechique or something crazy like Mechiqueaux if you want to preserve the last vowel of the Nahuatl name. (Whoah, "Mechiqueaux"! I like it!) — Hellerick [[Image:Flag of Divnogorsk.svg|20px]] 18:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I just thought I could slide by with a translation :) The French Mexico goes with my Chinese Empire thing. I just have one question, how would you pronounced Mechiqueax (Mexico?) and Mechique? (Mecheek?). I really have no knowledge of the French language at all, everything I do doing with France I named is via Google Translation Mr.Xeight 19:12, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Another little snag I've hit is changing in naming influential people in Mexico and South America. Their names obviously have to change since Spain was not the leader of Mexico & Central America. Another thing is what would mestizos and mulattos be called?

I think changing Mexico to a French nation is too much of an undertaking. Mr.Xeight 19:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Uh, your French is that bad? I don't speak it either, but I can read it at least. The correct name of Mexico in Nahuatl is "Meshiko", both English /meksiko/ and Spanish /mekhiko/ are results of misconception of the letter "x" in it. (BTW, the same goes for "Texas".) "Mechiqueaux" is how you spell in French something which is supposed to be pronounced /meshiko/ (and its adjective form would be "Mechiquelais", /me-shi-ke-le/). Actually the French have too many variants to spell the syllable /ko/, the shortest of them is "co", the longest of them is "queault", you can choose any of them. Anyway, since French Mexico never had letter "x" in its name, it's obvious that in could not appear in its "Anglosized" variant (I guess you meant "Anglicized"). — Hellerick [[Image:Flag of Divnogorsk.svg|20px]] 14:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * mestizos and mulattos would be called, respectively, métis and mulâtre.--Marcpasquin 16:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Greater France
To be able to have a socialist government under a monarchy, your best bet is to get inspired by some one party communistic government *here* who had a one leader-for-life like yugoslavia.--Marcpasquin 16:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

PS-1 Greece
Can you point me to a link to the PS-1 page you mean? I haven't followed that at all beyond my own 2 little countries, and even then I have no idea what sorts of wars they've been put into by the regular writers. What went wrong? Was it like IB, where at first you just made it too intense, too much, too fast?

I don't think the ancient Greeks used flags really. I think that the Vergina Sun on the Macedonian flag has been connected to the ancient kings of Macedon, including Philip the father of Alexander. It seems that ancient Athens' symbol was an Owl, which appeared on the coins throughout their empire. Coins in general might be a good place to look for symbols of ancient cities and kings and so forth. There are tons of ancient coin pictures online. Benkarnell 04:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

To let you know
In [War of Die Welt]] the actual Japanese Supranational alliance is Japanese SPhere.--Jakezing2 23:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that. Mr.Xeight 00:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

thanks for letting me now
--Owen1983 21:12, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

VC's Cyrenika
Yes, it's in Afrika, but as of 2005, in VC it was held by the Greeks. --Louisiannan 22:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)



Ah sorry, I should have looked at how other nations' colonies were filed. By the way, would you mind if I pitched some ideas to you for VC's Greece and Cyrenaica? Mr.Xeight 21:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Pitch away -- but keep in mind that I see Greece largely following our Greece's path. --Louisiannan 14:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

British Republic Idea
The concept sounds good it would be my pleasure to contribute.Remeber that Scotland came the nearest it ever has to Socialist revolution just after WW1 and that was after winning it,imagine what might happen if we lost. Red guy ~2 08:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for actually listening :)! I suggested Scottish independence on a site called Alternate History in which British-held Celtic lands formed into a federation. A rather rude, anti-communist (his username was "I Blame Communism") Scotsman said that all my ideas were pure stupidity. He said that British nationalism was so set into Scottish and Welsh society that seperating them from Britain I might as well have pigs flying through the streets of Edinburgh or Cardiff. I read that the Scottish Socialist Party was a huge advocate of Scottish Independence. I'd like to learn more about Scotland's socialist revolution. Mr.Xeight 23:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Would the Treaty of Versailles even bother with the the areas that make up the UK and Ireland? Or once England's colonies have been divied up or set free they wouldn't care much about anything else. Yeh Im a frequent used of Alternate History,look me up im called The Red.Btw I get along quite well with I Blame Communism and I can tell you that his names a joke he doesnt go all out on anti-communism.But I dont think your idea for a Celtic Federation is very feasible,an alliance perhaps or a customs union makes sense though.

Scotlands encounter with Socialist Revolution climaxed on "Bloody Friday" where a General strike in Glasgow led to tanks being deployed on George Square.Of course with a much worse economic situation this could evolve into something much more violent.

Also remember the the SSP are a bit of a fringe party,but yes they do support independence,Any socialist revolution would be localised to Scotland with little chance of it spreading south so yes there would be independence. Red guy ~2 09:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

If Scotland does receive independence, what would you say to Northern Ireland and Wales, both still British controlled? I very much doubt the Protestant Northern Irish would very much want to be part of the same country as their southern Catholic not-so-brethren. Mr.Xeight 16:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Ireland will probably be same as OTL unless theres some sort of term where all of Ireland needs to be granted independence,which there might be :p.Welsh independence just isnt happening,unless theres some massive catastrophe or its a term which it probably wouldnt be remember that even in the 90s a referendum for a bit devolution for Wales barely through on the Welsh vote.

Red guy ~2 19:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Fero
I know that his english ability is bothersome to you -- but you still should play nice and not delete his message. --Louisiannan 14:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Why (not to be to you of course, Dan; you've been nothing but help for me on this site and IB)? He has listened to literally nothing I've said. Besides just as in our world the events the days before DD were rumors though in this world they've been adopted as canon, so too is the fact that Cyprus was spared from nuclear explosions. Mr.Xeight 14:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

nowiki
If I may ask, why do you keep putting the "nowiki" marks around your links? That is probably why the double brackets aren't working. Mitro 19:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry; what are those? Mr.Xeight 19:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Try editing your user page, you should see them around the Confederation of Greek link you tried to make. Mitro 19:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)