User talk:Feudy McPlagueface

On doomsday, will you help us destroy China?

Local (talk) 19:40, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

SAR Posting
Hi, Feudal. I will be out of town for the next 4 days, so can you post for me?

1895.0 - Friday - Netherland's Queen Wilhelmina and Belgium's Prince Albert, are married in Amsterdam to a crowd of a few thousand. The two nations enter into a dynastic and personal union, and are happily ruled by both Wilhelmina and Leopold II - Albert's father. Suriname grows as it is further industrialized, and Indonesia begins to notice the ample supply of oil stored in its lands and waters.

1895.5 - Saturday - Netherland and Belgium start to become culturally similar, as part of a plan laid out mainly by Georg van Hedrick, the Dutch Prime Minister. They are already very similar, so a common culture is not too farfetched, and the popularity of this blended culture is already growing. Suriname continues to grow, and Indonesia sends geologists and petroleum experts to survey their reserves.

1896.0 - Sunday - The Netherlands and Belgium continue on their path of finding a cultural identity, and they work with the Emperor of Ethiopia, in hopes that Ethiopia will become a Dutch colony and protectorate. Some Belgians and Dutch are still unhappy after the reunion, which came shortly after the 1839 dissolution of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands. van Hedrick continues his policy, nonetheless, and finds some success. Suriname grows more after the industrialization continues, and Indonesia's oil reserve reports come back - there is a large deposit near the islands.

1896.5 - Monday - The Netherlands and Belgium work to unite, and it is announced that in 6 months they will reform the United Dutch and Belgian Kingdom, which will be called the Netherlands for short. Cultural diffusion continues, and more and more people are excited for this historic oppurtunity. Relations with Ethiopia get even better, and Suriname grows its economy. More and more Dutch are moving in, and the population in 50% Dutch and 50% native. Indonesia begins to invest in oil fields, and onshore drilling.

You may no longer do mod events on South American Rising. You are still a mod and can do everything else, but i will take over on mod events DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:04, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

That makes no sense then... we both do events and your cutting me out, im making sure anything ridiculous doesnt happen and your never on half the time. i have a schedule, you act like im butchering the Game

Japan is going overboard on expansion, annexing Philipenese and Siam and Korea while cooperating with China. It makes no sense. Philipenes is fine as is Korea, but Siam would put up hundreds of thousands of troops to fight you off. Just be careful with future expansions, Japans going to fast. Occupied nations will take away from you in future algorithms as will recent wars. Do mod events for everywhere but Asia, those of which i will do, and you will do the rest of the planet DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:10, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

They are not even occupied, the whole reason i Created the SDC was to calm down Racial tension period. besides, nobody else posts and the only place anything happens is in Asia. Now if you take advantage of it and start modding me and China into Oblivion than were going to have issues is the clear?

Im not going to make anything bad happen, just mod events. Maybe a natural disaster ever few decades but that happens in OTL DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:21, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

OK, hers the deal. I resigned from being controller of the games affairs becasue i didnt have much time with class then, like a week or two ago as i had a ton of crap to do. While Seiga is legally higher up on the scale in mod powers than i am now, i am just below her in power and can remove your mod strengths. However, i do not want you banned as honestly a Japanese superpower will be interesting and a Mexican-Japanese alliance could have some very nice affects. I can thorw boonuses your way every few years, but im sorry the ways that things have been happening have utterly made it insane with the allainces shifting so rapidly and the polarization of Europe this early. It took a death of a high ranking Austrian to start WW1 OTL, and the alliances as of now are here too early. Yes it is ALTERNATE HISTORY, but it still has to be plausible. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:24, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

can i call you fred? sorry its just i cant rememer your real username. Anyway. as long as theres no war until 1905 were fine, but the events really are going to fast. seriously i think we need to start cooling it down. And vacant nations are not punished, there players simply removed from that nation, if they come back they can have there nation if its free, otherwise just leave em alone. And player controlled nations make there own allainces, not the mods, thats actually pretty well agreed on. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

ok. Ill do mod events on Europe and Asia, you do them on the rest of the planet. Now heres the thing, i can add some good mod events, but not all years are interesting, look at a broad period of human history, not much interesting there. (not all at once, but add a ton of it up and it numbers in the centuries of boring years politically and militarily. Add a new invention or discovery in place of politiics, or economics add some of those, DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:47, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Can you respond to my asking for an alliance with Andorra on SAR tonight. Best Regards,  G greg e (talk) 03:11, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Heyo, because France already invadeed Morroco according the the algos, I elected to invade them. Without chance the current result is 418 UIK, Andorra, and Morroco to 224 France. Please look over this algo and if you have any questions contact me. Depsite the large victory I will not demand total surrender from France if the player wishes to continue playing. I am thinking taking some (will name later) some French African colonies, Morrocan Independence, and Some territory in/arround the med. Since i really only invaded undefended and unexpecing Southern France, i feel that would be the max i could receive. Best Regards G greg e (talk) 17:08, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Chinese soldiers wore clothing from Dongbei and Inner Manchuria, so I don't think it will be a problem in fighting Russian soldiers and the Russian winter, except if you let more Russians die of coldness, since the Chinese soldiers come from the South, which is relatively warmer.Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 13:16, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Russian winter is disturbingly Brutal on all fronts... its why two of the best armies of all time lost against the russians. its not like you could go much farther considering the Russian have 6 million standard troops and are being armed by the US.

1921
It appears that Daxus Inferno has ejected you from the game [] for disagreeing with him. Fancy joining [] wiki, The River Nile-2 (talk) 07:57, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Well im not to pleased with his very obvious abuse of admin powers not to mention deciding to be a selective dick its not as much a disagreement other than i just plain dont like him, he refuses to follow obvious rules and i remind him plenty, if there was i way i could be unbanned and have him removed as an admin or have him unable to handle anything pertaining to my account that would be lovely. not to mention he decides to cuss me out like once daily purely with half of it a misunderstanding and the rest being just pure spite. I dont appreciate it, and no offense but the way hes action hurts all of you, if he decides to do this again to someone else he hasnt learned anything, so someone with that kind of attitude shouldnt have that kind of power. Thanks for showing me the others wiki though much appreciated

Heyho.The River Nile-2 (talk) 00:23, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

China SAR
I am possibly be going out of the wiki for 3 weeks, so can you post as China and Japan until then?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 17:06, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

South American Rising
Can you respond to my mod responses. All but Gibralter should be RNGd.

==World Rivalries has started == The game has started, Please post as Soon as you can to start the next turn. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:23, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: French Surrender
Hey Feudal do you think you can finally surrender to the allied coalition. If you post in your next turn something similar to this and bold it: We ask for a cease fire to surrender to the allied coalition. The allied coalition might stop attacking you okay. Also you need to make sure that you say in your turn that you order all of your troops to stand down. If you can do this as France next time your available, please do so.

Best Regards - Edboy452 (talk) 02:17, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

In SAR I would like to establish a joint protectorate over Chile, and I would like it to become the Confederate Provinces of Chile, which would be a Confederation. You can annex Chilean Tierra del Feugo. Also we can both as mods keep the USA nuetral, as it attacking Chile after refusing would seem stupid. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

Well i limit the RNG's pretty heavily so that they dont contradict as for Chile its Already been a Brazilian issue for awhile before you decided to get involved, most of the rest of the continent is under Brazilian Influence, As for Joint Protectorate i dont like that, how about a thing like North and South Korea, minus the Big ass war, You get Northern Chile and ill establish my Own thing in Souther Chile, The Country will be split in half. But Just Know Brazil will be PISSED at both of us, so we both will eventually have to deal with them who havent fallen apart like our time line, but im thinking more like a Vassal of Southern Chile instead of a full confederacy. Joint protectorate status doesnt work too well. Also Dean your 6 million man army has got to go, your Economy will literally be crushed by that crazy amount of man power. youve got to be realistic with that, Ive got 120 million people in my Empire and only field just over 2 million Feudalplague (talk) 05:09, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for supporting me on SAR, I apreciate it. Also pertaining to the Ottomans, I think we should have them either join the SDC or be nuetral in the next big conflict, your call. What the Ottomans need is a playsible player, I think it would be pretty interesting. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

Dude, the war is fair, i never controlled the ottomans, i made up a terrorist group of turkish, who aren't affiliated nor endorsed by the government of the ottomans but use their lands as hiding places, what i'm doing is like what the usa did in Afghanista with al qaeda, and due to being without any permission the otts would declare war right when i enter my troops in their balkanic holdings Sine dei gloriem (talk) 21:56, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

'''Well honestly The SDC is closed to membership from pretty much all large nations now.. there has to be competition. As for war, anyone can declare war on anyone at anytime no watter what the Iranian could Declare war on OTL US at any point but it just wouldnt work out too well for them. as for Greece and the Ottomans they easily have bad blood/Historical tension. Now as it stands i only deleted the full intervention cause we wont get any new players if every new player can get an empire right off the bat, but id say the Greeks have a decent chance considering the ottomans have alot of occupying to do in Persia for the time being as well as the fact the Greeks are getting all the Benefits of being an SDC military member which are state of the art technology and training, and support when justified. However going to Sine where he said it wasnt the ottomans just turkish radicals thats totally plausible too. if you think about it World war 1 in OTL was kicked off by some Radical Serbians killing Franz Ferdinand forcing a war. now if something like that was organized i could allow it due to tensions of the Time. but we have to find a good balance. So Dean and Sine its semi implausible the Greeks would attack without the right support and as Japan Dean brought up the point i cant do it since we were LITERALLY just allies against the Persians, However a Localized war with public support could easily go in the Greeks Favor and throw most of the balkans except for Instanbul to Greek control. please make a few more points so i can move along with a tie breaker decision please.Feudalplague (talk) 22:20, July 7, 2013 (UTC)'''

My corrections?
Why are you changing my corrections back to wrong spellings, etc?

EoGuy (talk) 19:06, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

South American Rising (Map Game)

EoGuy (talk) 20:11, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

'''Im not, i dont mess with them.. its either someone else or my account was hijacked --Feudalplague (talk) 20:30, July 24, 2013 (UTC)'''

Implausibility
Nueva España said they have trains... Trains havn't been invented yet.

1 Please leave your Sig at the end of your things so i know whos talking to me, and i beleive this was addressed. Feudalplague (talk) 07:00, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Map Update
Hey, saw you left chat while I was adding stuff, so I'm just ganna keep adding tribes and nations 'till you come back to chat or I fall asleep haha. EiplecOco (talk) 06:41, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies
Hey Feud. A long time ago you signed up for Axis vs Allies: Reborn (Map Game) as the USSR. Now Scraw would also like to be the USSR. You don't have to give up the USSR to Scraw, but please just think about it. If you're not the USSR, a lot of countries like France, Japan, and possibly Germany are open. Thanks! PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 13:27, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

No offense, but I just don't want to see a superpower fall into the wrong hands, ya know? I don't have much experience with you and haven't seen you play that many of the plausible games. SAR and NotLAH are both ASB.

16:37, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yea your good, As for being in a plausible map game, i know what you mean i just wasnt too interested in PMII and i got goatroped into joining NotLaH and im also got goatroped into modding SAR. It wont be in terrible hands, im pretty knowledgeable of the USSR of the time especially their woeful unpreparedness thanks to Stalin. Id like to Stay the USSR cause as them i would know what im doing etc etc, I wont be the wrong hands hands. Feudalplague (talk) 16:44, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

OK fine. Now I have to go play Japan...and Pita's naturally going to revolt Korea...

16:47, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Lol im sorry, Hey play your Cards Right Japan will get its Asian Empire Much like it wanted, As For Korea try and slowly be less Japan oriented and do the Asia For Asiatics like OTL but actually back it up and make the nations you conquer actually agree with it, intead of it being Japanese Centric do it Asian Centric, that way you can recruit from them too.

~ Feudal

That's the plan. Just don't attack me! I'm gonna try to stay away from the larger war.

16:59, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Anyasj (I can't spell whatever that says) Empire
Am I more or less powerful than the Incas? Mafia (talk)

The new Axis vs Allies map game has now started. Turns start every day at 18:00 UTC or 2:00 EST. Thank you, PitaKang- My Life for Aiur!  En Taro Tassadar 18:15, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Your Brother
Nah it's cool. There were just a couple of... concerns that you might be sockpuppeting the other account to give yourself an advantage in the game. I'm sure all this will be sorted out quickly. Thanks! PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 19:57, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Am i being accused of Sockpuppeting or is this a wrong post? Feudalplague (talk) 20:08, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Romae Delenda Est
Hey, could I get that RNG for the response from the Estonians? Petrarch: Father of SWAG! (talk) 21:44, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

RNG Decisions
Hey Feud, you can't make your own RNG deicisions like you did for your turn in RDE in 213 BC. It'll cause a conflict of interest and show an assured bias, which doesn't look good for the map game. RNG decisions will now be revealed in mod events the next turn. Thanks for understanding! Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 18:12, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

All right.. I don't get how it shows assured bias especially since I did it last turn and didnt get the RNG for it

I'm sorry you didn't get an RNG before, trying to work on getting everyone's everything, but it shows assured bias because it's you accepting your own proposal. It's like sockpuppeting to get a nation to capitulate to your decisions. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:04, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

No I did one yesterday and I lost it as in I did the RNG and it was on the side of them not joining me.

But it just looks back when a person does their own RNG's, even if they are mods. How would it look if I requested that the Iberian tribes accept vassalization, did my own RNG, and posted myself that they accepted. It may be correct, but we have to make minor sacrifices just so it doesn't come across to anyone as god modding. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:20, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well do an RNG for me and let me know the result here On my talk page please

I just did it from Random.org, and I got a 10. I know that the scale for RNG's are 1-10, but I don't know which number sets mean agreement, and which ones do not. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:27, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

For future reference 1-4 are yes 5 isn't used and is a recount. And 6-10 are no

Alrighty, thanks, and I just did RNG for Daxus, and Greg fixed Belgican's player's RNG who did it themselves. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:36, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Remember, I am away for the next week. I will tell you when I am back, so no events, Greg is posting me continuing what I am doing so far, but nothing else, so no events about me please Mafia (talk) 22:55, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Disrupting
I see you are back to your old tactics FP. I thought we had this solved yesterday? And now today you cross out my posts again. I find your behavior objectionable. Let's just say that Macedonia never conquered Appolonia or Thracia. What for you still keep bugging me? What's up with you. And if you are such a hard-core about the algorithm, then you may kindly do it for me. If you were not blind you would have noticed I_tried _my_best. By disregarding everything you are just spoiling the map game. Forget about it and move on. You are now a minor irritation for me. VX-641 (talk) 20:35, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

And also you are manipulating historical events for your own profit. I ask you to stop this ''kindly. VX-641 (talk)''

There were no solving, it was pointed out by 2 seperate admins that you are talking to one of the MOD's of the map game. as it stands the Other Head moderator Agrees with me in that you are required to the the Algorithm in order to advance. as for me doing it for you, if you had kindly asked about 2 days ago maybe i would have, but continued defiance of my actions, and blatant disregarding of Rules has inclined me to do otherwise. it is not that hard. follow the format and math, look up the things you need to look up and you would be done. As for Spoiling. i have done no such thing to anyone else because THEY FOLLOW OUR RULES. If you would please look at the rules, as well as the algo and actually do them when you say your going to do them we wouldnt have this issue. my Goal is to keep the game plausible and fun for everyone, your Severely hampering that by declaring youve done things when you dont even control the territory that your doing things in. Ive talked about it with another player, '''Who also commented on your lack of an algorithm. '''And another Moderator who agrees with me. You have also Called in an Adminstator who told you exactly what was going on. as for my conquest of Appolonia and Thracia... i went through all the correct steps to attack/ conquer them.. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 20:53, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

'''Galatia is far from Judea, and they have different masters. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:31, August 12, 2013 (UTC)'''

'''The Large Scale Revolt would force them to keep troops domestic. its implausible to contribute to someones invasion while your in the middle of a developing rebellion. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:39, August 12, 2013 (UTC)'''

What I meant was (no offense intended) you didn't really post anything that helped me aside from the 8,000 troops promise, so how do you get half of it? (no offense meant, really) iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:41, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

'''8000 troops kind of Warrants it. the southern parts the are currently Byzantine by culture.. so as it stands Me having half of Galatia inst all the implausible, as for the invasion you got more than you wouldve than the 3 way split wouldve done. but i dont think that map it totally final, if theres anything you would like changed (short of egypt getting any territory cause its rebellion preventing alot of expansion at all) let me know if Anything i could purchase the other areas from you so its not as much an issue. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:48, August 12, 2013 (UTC)'''

ok. i was just frazzled because u said that u offered 8,000 and I agreed but u didn't post anything on your regular posts about invading Galatia. but this kinda clears things up now. :) iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:55, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Well as it stands i offered 8000 for you to personally command for the war in general. so for future reference if its offered ask to clarify, you won the algo so it doesnt matter right now, but the 8000 extra bonus may have been nice ;P. Enjoy your half of Galatia my friend, May our friendship remain long, and watch out for Parthia, they will be powerful. and are most likely more powerful for you to conquer. defending may be a diff story but watch out lol &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:58, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

enjoy your half too and watch out for Rome, my friend, and yeah, the 8,000 would've been nice if I just knew that I would command it. But I won anyways. and may our friendship remain long! iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 03:03, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

can u please put chance numbers on my battles so i can compute them pls. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:57, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

'''If u go to war with Egypt while he's on ban, i'll support you. if he's not on ban, i'll still support you. and to give u a heads up i'll invade colchis in 2 turns maybe. '''iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 01:25, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Im not sure invading colchis with your current expansion is a good idea. slow down and rebuild your population you still needed me to send  20,000 mercs to help you beat Armenia. As for Egypt the player is banned for about 200 years so no worries there. as it stands i believe your assistance would be nice. considering weve got Rome on our side as well.

ok invade colchis maybe by 169bc. and if you invade egypt, i'll need to have permission for my navy to pass through the hellespont to invade Cyprus and Egyptian Judea. And maybe Egypt proper if possible. i really want an african colony iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 01:34, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Um i plan on taking Cyprus and most of Anatolia. Ill split the larger province closer to your territory with you cause i dont think id be able to hold it anyways. As for your navy youd have the ability to pass through Byzantium considering your acting as an ally. as for a colony that isnt a problem however Rome is getting Sinai i believe and im trying to connect to the red sea as well maybe we can split that. But Egypt proper i want to make into a rump state. We may have to get Carthage in this too but im making a division map right now. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:38, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

ok so how about we split cyprus 30-70. all i need from it is a few ports for transport and communication purposes. and having even a small part of cyprus gives me the ability to invade Egyptian judea. I also plan on raiding Alexandria and, if you guys agree, keep it. :) iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 01:41, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Haha some of this is kinda out there. The idea was to make Cyprus an independant kingdom, Take alexandria back considering it is the main city established by Alexander the great.. a macedonian. and few other provinces near my colony.&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:49, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

for cyprus, how about treaty ports or something, like the unequal treaties with china. i'm still taking egyptian judea. and if not alexandria, what other ports does egypt have besides cyrene, which i know you would take iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:04, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

There is literally no Egyptian Judea.. Judea is an independant nation that i trade with and wont be involved in the War. as for Cyprus they are going to be a vassal, Alexandria is also being taken by me cause of the cultural heritage my people would have there in Alexandria. Im not taking as much as you think. but this actually has to happen first, and making demands the way you are isnt gonna get you to far especially when im leading the invasion... im not saying you dont get stuff but your behind two other powers who are looking to screw Egypt over &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:08, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

if i'm being demanding, really sorry. on my old map games, i barely touched cooperation when it comes to invading. and if u look at the map, why is there a portion above Independent Judea that's in color yellow. and yeah, i'm really sorry for being to demanding. really nervous about teamwork and i really just want to secure my share of Africa before a partition map is posted. And can cyprus be a joint vassal, with u dominating of course. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:14, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

About Cyprus Possible, as for the part by the Seleucids. thats not judea its a pretty insignificant area you could more than likely turn into a port. but i was thinking of giving it to cyprus so they could support themselves a bit better. Also dont worry Carthage may join in and hes being classified as after you so you could potentially get more than he could. as it stands however im looking to dominate this half of the medditerrnean with a pretty heavy fist. I mean look at what i did to egypt i cut them off from Anatolia pretty handily. Also if your going for Colchis stop there.. cause 1 Scythia is an ally, and 2 they are part of my sphere on influence. Also im looking to disrupt any potential Egyptian kingdom from getting to me. part of a grander strategy. As for the demands not a big deal. ive dealt with much worse your pretty tame haha &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:22, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

tnx. i'm invading colchis 1.) to expand my kingdom, u know resources. 2.) to get trade with Scythia since I need more trading partners. I'm aiming for naval Black Sea dominance anyways. I'll try to get thae insignificant territory for communication and transport purposes anyways. so btw, what part of africa have u and the other powers have planned to invade anyways, so that I could make preparations and long-term strategy. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:34, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Popping in here for a second... Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 05:24, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Scythia is not your ally. You've never asked for an RNG for it, and never even done a diplomacy for it.

They became my ally when ed played for the brief period. but then he decided to leave. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 05:26, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

I just saw VX's talk page and no one can really attack him while he's on ban? iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:31, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

no we can hes banished for about 200 years in game time... that would be impractical &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 03:13, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

i thought he was just banished for 4 days? iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 03:19, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

No he kept posting under his ban and broke various other rules. it was considered Vandalization and is banned for quite awhile. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 03:32, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

ah. that's nice. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 03:49, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Question: Who would attack Egypt first, and when? iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 04:18, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Oceanian Control
Well, turn's out that I will be able to come online, so, yeah. OreoToast555(Talk)(Sandbox) 03:54, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

haha my bad, Rex told me they were open and i wasnt trying to be stuck as the stinkin Navajo.,. my bad ;P im not switching just so you know. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:43, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Byzantine
I was just about to switch to the Byzantine Empire. Why is it that the nations I want are always taken? Yank 01:42, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Yank has been trying to get it for sometime. Mod or not, what you did was kind of unfair to Yank.

04:12, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Rebuild
I am gonna make a radiation map so people have an idea how hard their nation was hit. It is gonna be a map of nations in otl. Btw, I think u used a map in the 21st century, not that it matters much. Daeseunglim (talk) 14:58, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

y am i not UK Warman555 (talk) 20:03, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

CoA of Brazil?
Mind if I ask a question about your recent upload (File:Coat of arms of brazil.png). Given that its colors differ from the standard file, I must ask whether this color scheme is necessary for your timeline. If no, than this would be a duplicate file, which is not allowed on this site. If yes, than I would like to know. Thank you. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:44, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yea sorry i couldnt find anything on the CoA for Brazil so i just assumed it wasnt on the Wiki. i didnt realize it was a duplicate.your free to remove it if you so wish. Sorry for any issues i may have caused &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 00:47, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

do u want to join South American Rising 2 (Map Game) Warman555 (talk) 21:37, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Work on the page alot as well as a map, make a nation scores page etc etc. make it plausible. make it presentable cause right now its not too hot. Work on it for awhile id say wait for some other games to die down before starting this at all. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 21:41, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

i need help with the map i keep getting the borders wrong Warman555 (talk) 21:59, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Use one of our original maps.

cant find the origanal Warman555 (talk) 22:10, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

You were banned
Please stop sabotaging me. Thank you. VX-641 (talk)

YOU ARE BANNED

this was decided by both co creators and head mods. you are now being reported to site administrators

&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 23:42, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Industrial Revolution: Reborn
Can you help me in Industrial Revolution: Reborn please? Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 09:12, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

What did you need help with ??&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 09:18, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Can you make a nation page?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 09:56, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

and in RDE can you check if my application and algorithim works?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 09:57, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

RDE
Now that I surrendered as Qin to Han, can I be Han dynasty?

Yea go ahead--&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:40, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

WWIII:Ultimate War has begun!!!!!!!
Dude, the map game has just started.Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 23:30, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Ratc should be banned for three implusable edits on the first turn of iR reborn Warman555 (talk) 23:22, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Accidental Duplicate
No problem. I have deleted it for you. Thank you for bringing this up. Though if you don't mind me asking, what is it a duplicate of?

I have a plan to go 'liberate' some of the Former USA, after I have Unified Britain. Would you object to me invading ratc? Mafia (talk) 11:02, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Also, do you have a plausiblity rule for Nations? Ratc wants to become the USA or something Mafia (talk) 11:09, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Could you declare Neutrality if I invade Ratc once Unified. FYI, when I say invade Ratc, I will make contact, then invade him for some reason... probably cause he is throwing the lives of his citizens away in pointless wars, and I want to save them. So declare Neutrality please. It isn't for a few years anyhow. Mafia (talk) 11:18, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

RNG Pontus
Pls do RNG for my 169bc post iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 05:03, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hi!
thank you! I'm new on this wikia and I'm learning so if I made any mistake please feel free to correct me. I'm currently building an Argentinian page, upgrading it with the events already depicted in the Rebuild Storyline. :)

Vincent Mackay (talk) 03:40, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Excuse me to bother you again, from what moment to what moment can I star to include my ideas onto the game? (previously accorde with the forum of course).

Vincent Mackay (talk) 03:58, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Put your signature next to Argentina to show your playing as them. And the game is going so you can post your turn right now if you'd like. Look over the rules a bit so you don't do anything too off the wall just follow the format the rest of us did for posting our turns --&#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk)

Chat please Mafia (talk) 18:03, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Industrial Revolution Map
Can you post for 1789?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 05:24, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Never Unified China
Can you review my timeline, I'm still working on it.Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 13:53, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Rebuild
Can you help China not to be conquered by Korea?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 13:54, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hop on chat plz?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 05:23, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

You do realise that Scotland and Ireland have barely any naval forces. Also, that entire union is implausible. Scotland would have been nastily nuked, losing Glasgow Edinburgh etc. Why did you remove Northern England accepting? And how is a nation that has been unified longer than a 1000 years reunifying implausible? Mafia (talk) 16:49, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Because it wasnt northern england accepting it was scotland and at the time from the current nations it was implausible and doesnt fit in with the timeline. also you were nuked and may not be recognized as the legitimate successor to England by everyone. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk)

I asked Northern England... the Union is completely ASB. Scotland wouldn't ally with Ireland. The IRA was a major terrorist organisation at the time, basically resulting in all of Britain mistrusting Ireland. No way Scotland chooses to ally with Ireland over the actual nations it actually liked. Mafia (talk) 16:59, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Chat please Mafia (talk) 17:00, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Rise of the South
Thanks for the heads up. Tr0llis (talk) 19:56, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Undoing
If it says that there is an "intermediate revision" that means there is an edit between the one the current state and the one you want to undo that you need to undo before you can undo the desired edit. Lordganon (talk) 06:20, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Lordganon (talk) 06:34, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Two Things
I'll fix the score thing. That's my bad. As for the colony, I guess it's fine if you have a settlement part of your Nigeria colony at the northernmost point. Just know that the Cameroon River Delta and the river all the way up to your settlement is my territory. Mscoree (talk) 10:32, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

You going to sign it? Then get Ugly to sign, and I will sign for Spain, as I have the entire nation under my control. Mafia (talk) 00:04, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

I am sure as hell not letting oct control Spain anymore. Mafia (talk) 16:57, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Also, I maded a wiki. I am planning on making stuff on it, timelines etc, that are not even slightly plausible. Also, going to fuck with the future too http://lmbs.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity if you are interested Mafia (talk) 16:59, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Mod
Can I be a mod? Also, Warman wants to be a Jr Mod. I am not going to express my opinion on that *cough* terrible *cough* idea Mafia (talk) 16:21, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Does the Colony rule from RotS apply? Mafia (talk) 19:39, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

So I can be Australia? Mafia (talk) 19:45, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Colonial World
Hi. This message is to inform you that you had signed up for Colonial World (Map Game) and it has started. Thank you for joining and have a great day. Rcchang (talk) 01:06, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Post for me
Can you post for me from 10/7 to 10/12?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 13:33, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

10/7
PMII:

Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.

10/8
PMII:

Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.

10/9
PMII:

Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.

10/10
PMII:

Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.

10/11
PMII:

Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.

10/12
PMII:

Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.

Miracle at Marne
A Timeline for it by that name would have to be basically of the map game. You'd need to change the name for anything entirely separate.

Overall though, it really is not a good PoD. You're just declaring something - there's no reason for that change.

Lordganon (talk) 10:37, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Why can''t I be mod? Mafia (talk) 21:06, October 8, 2013 (UTC)''

MaM - Austria and Hungary
Did I ever say I was trying to completely scoot a civil war? No. What I'm doing, is questioning how 300 people happened to die when a failed German revolution led to merely 20 deaths. It may be an ethnic conflict, but consider the circumstances. It's night, it's Vienna, and everyone's drunk. Can drunk Hungarians and Austrians tell the difference of each other in the same beer hall, at night, and good enough to start an ethnic conflict over two drunk ethnicities who may even not notice ethnic differences? Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 05:26, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Only one man was drunk. it never explicitly said he was by a bar when this happened. he could have been walking home from the beer hall and done it and some non drunk Hungarians pulled him off and more than likely killed him which if seen by the right being could just continue to escalate to the point of two opposing rioting factions fighting eachother. The British empire all throughout during various periods had rioting constantly some of which did end up with a decent amount of people dieing. The same happens with evey nation from time to time. This riot just got out of hand an it required the military to prevent further escalation. if it got that big and required that to prevent it, then it couldve easily gone more so across the city if not the country (like it kind of will ina different sort of way) just cause the guy that caused it was drunk doesnt mean everyone was. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 05:38, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

The Egyptian Protests of 2012 to 2013 have led to a maximum of 60 deaths. The subsequent revolution that spread across the country, not just once city like Vienna, led to 628 reported deaths. The Austrian Civil War of 1934 led to a maximum of about 300-400 deaths. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 12:25, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

These are not protests. This is two sober ethnicities openly targeting eachother in the streets of vienna. This is not being changed and can happen. Especially since Austrian troops did wipe out about 60,000 people in Galicia in 1914. Genocide and ethnic conflict is not beyond your nation. 300 is a reasonable number for two ethnic factions fighting directly and openly in the streets. If it required the military and not just police forces to put down then that just backs me up even more. These were not protests, and this was not a low scale civil war by a nation in the shell of its former self. This is the two largest ethnicities following an issue escalating and engaging in open conflict in the cities streets. This is final &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk)

TSPTF
Hey Feudal I would like to nomintate you to become a constable (TSPTF). You have helped out everyone a lot and is keen of battling spam...... If you want to please leave a note for me on my talk page.



PS. Colonial World has started. I have posted on Miracle at Marne and there is no reason for you to be mad at me.

Miracle industry map
jus a request could you start putting the yellow areas around bogota and the north east of colombia i have been expanding them for a decade and they remain green. thanksNkbeeching (talk) 10:33, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Invitation
You are invited to a game on the wiki, Alternate Nations 2, where you make nations turn-by-turn, until you fill up the map. Then we will pick a new map. It is a great casual thing/time waster to do on the wiki. Thanks, Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes

Mod
So... I can't be mod?

Here we go!
Here we go.



I hope my map proposal interests you. C'mon man it does look really cool! :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:41, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

maps for my timeline
hey feudal, i have aquestion seeing  how yo  have been able to do somw decent maps for your timeline if oyu could help me with my own for the disaster of 1805.

Nkbeeching (talk) 01:56, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

ill send you detailed rough copies next week. Nkbeeching (talk) 02:00, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Unexpected Kingdom
Whoever told you that wasn't telling you the truth.

Basically, I marked it that way because of two things. One, things turned out basically the same as otl, just with Vinland added. More so, however, is that your Vinland wouldn't work without being biased in its favor.

Is a Vinland possible? Yes, in theory. Yours? Not so much. You've basically pulled thousands of extra people, and resources, out of nowhere.

Don't worry about it, mind - an ASB tag doesn't mean it's a bad timeline, just that it's not plausible. There is a difference, which you seem to get.

Lordganon (talk) 10:27, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

More the population that was the problem in that regard than the resources.

You don't mind? Rare, that is.

Lordganon (talk) 15:01, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Just be careful to keep control over things if you allow others in.

You'd be surprised just how many people think that it is something to get mad about, imo.

Yes, SV is ASB because of the magic. You're right about it being good, however.

Only way you'd get another tag is if you let magic, aliens, zombies or something more of that nature in.

Lordganon (talk) 17:02, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

HRE ASB
Esteemed contributor to the Yellowstone TL, I object to the HRE on a number of counts of ASBness.

Please, consider my arguments made here. The entire idea of a united Russia in this TL at the time when it happens is ASB, and I hope you join me in striking it down as obsolete by signing the petition.

Thank You,                 Hasta la vista,   baby.  08:12, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Britain would probably lose Guyana. (phone)

^

Well, they would it because they cannot keep focus on everything around. As for the union? The Venezualans would first of all exact revenge on them before anything else happened. Then perhaps there could be the possiblity of union finally happening. :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:40, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

FEUDAL! Please tell MP to check his Talk Page. I CAN'T ON CHAT Mafia CBA doing his signature. Don't judge Him. This Sig is inspired by Guns. 21:08, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Is MP checking? I used Map Games Wiki to work out what to do. Mafia CBA doing his signature. Don't judge Him. This Sig is inspired by Guns. 21:14, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yellowstone: 1936
I like what you did with the Panama page and I wanted to say you did a good job. Can you do what you did to the Panama page to the Greece page, because I do not know how you cand make that box area with the flag, coat of arms, and map all in one with the counties information. ShadowKnights1234 9:23 am, 11/25/2013

Argentina
Sign your posts.

The algo was already done. It was just that it would be two turns before you could declare victory.

You now has Argentina.

00:22, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Starting Location
You have not yet picked a starting location for your nation in Human History Experiment. To do so, go to the Maps page, and follow the directions there. the game begins on December 7th. Wegscuba (talk) 01:51, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Warning
The behavior you exhibited on the Britannia (Yellowstone: 1936) talk page was improper, at best. Tone it down in the future, please. Lordganon (talk) 13:15, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Good to hear. Try to remember, though, that it is an attempt at a community timeline - Local's points were more or less dead-on as to the process. Lordganon (talk) 19:59, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Quite frankly, what you describe - trying to impress their will - is what you were trying to do. That's the problem. Lordganon (talk) 03:53, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Chat/Vassals
I will not be able to go on chat right now. Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:47, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

You stated it was not vassalisation. You try to begin vassalisation and they are immidiately out of the league. So either you can let the status quo remain or risk losing them from your organisation. Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:57, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Human History
Human History Experiment has begun. You have not yet picked your starting location for the game. If you do not do so in ten turns, your nation will be removed from the gameWegscuba (talk) 01:54, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Uruguay
No, you got PARAGUAY. NOT Uruguay. As I believe I have stated several times in the past. You're at the point where you can no longer just influence nations, you must take direct action. Have a war. Hell, have two wars (Only joking).

22:12, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, my apologies. Other way around. You got Uruguay, not Paraguay.

S'all good.

22:37, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Sci-Fi Empire Fact Sheet Info
I know I'm probably bothering you, but I'm working on something, and was quite interested in getting some info from you regarding what name of empire you create if you could. I've set up a little list for you that I'd like for you to fill out if you had the time.


 * Empire name:  
 * Founding year: <2180-2270>
 * Capital (City, World):
 * Nation symbol: 
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: <100-450>
 * Estimated population: <100 billion-1 trillion>
 * Government:
 * Current leader:  
 * Currency:
 * Military name:
 * Military size:
 * Official language(s):
 * Other language(s):
 * Preferred empire color:
 * How is the leader chosen?:
 * How unified is the country?:
 * How tolerant are the people?:
 * What kind of economy is there?:
 * How does the army work?:
 * What's the literacy level?:
 * What's the overall technology?: 
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: 
 * What's the most admired class?:
 * What's the lowest class?:
 * How are women treated?:
 * What is the attitude toward sex?:
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?:

Thank you for your cooperation. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 03:48, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Cuba in AvA
Hey. I understand it would probably be better that way then American style, but I'm bored, to be honest. Besides working with Japan and in Cambodia, I have nothing else to do at the moment. I'm just trying to gain a few allies in the surrounding region. Enclavehunter (talk) 06:45, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

the newalgo conversation

 * really dont like leavinga person in charge of war resolving by choice
 * but a mod would conrtrol this
 * this is the first idea i will work it out this week and once i jhave the map game ready will post it there
 * the first part would be trench warfare
 * based on how many turns you built up your defences alonga certain line you get a scale of 1 to 5 bonus, from there yo take into acount a number for troops morale, supplies, and allies fighting along ide you
 * 8:05 Local Mafia Boss But what about Blitzkrieg?
 * 8:05 Nkbeeching numbers will count less on a singular battle algo due to it being trench warfare, however on a larger scale each battle will take its toll and if you cant reinforce the lines at a certain point you will be forced to withdraw
 * that comes with the development of tanks
 * once tank tech is developed the trench warfare algo will become obsolete and a new algo will take its place
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:06 Local Mafia Boss But they had Tanks on the Somme
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:06 Nkbeeching this way we dont have small countries collapsing at once at the start of wars in the first world war if they are prepared until they cant fight anymore
 * its just to try this out i know there are partiularities in history
 * tanks will be allowed in 1916 and onwards once you have large production of tanks you will be able to cancel the trench bonus and the number and tanks bonus will prove an adcantage
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:08 Monster Pumpkin alright
 * I should go
 * later
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:08 Nkbeeching alright
 * you like what you read mp?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:09 Monster Pumpkin about what
 * Mscoree has joined the chat.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:09 Nkbeeching my idea for a new type of algo system forr my map game
 * hey ms
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:09 Mscoree Hello
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:09 Monster Pumpkin oh
 * so far
 * Ms
 * can you help me with Germany's navy again
 * if possible
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:09 Mscoree MP it's interesting that you'd name a ship after a famous aircraft pilot
 * usually ships are (if named after people) named after admirals or people involved in maritime stuff
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Nkbeeching its to try and balance things out and favor certain sides in different periodds of war fare
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Monster Pumpkin well
 * it is an aircraft carrier
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Nkbeeching terrain would also form a part of the algo
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Monster Pumpkin so I based it off of that
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Mscoree Okay that's true
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Monster Pumpkin and I don't think Zepplin was an admiral
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:10 Nkbeeching can you give me your opinion ms?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Monster Pumpkin alright
 * Ms
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Mscoree @NK Sure on what
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Monster Pumpkin if you can help with the U-boats, that would be freat
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Mscoree Okay
 * I'll take a look
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Monster Pumpkin but if not, that is fine
 * but I should go
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Nkbeeching also up joining a maap game ill be starting in afteri go to canada
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Monster Pumpkin later everyone
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Mscoree Bye
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:11 Nkbeeching read up top
 * see ya mp
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:12 Mscoree About terrain in algorithms?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:12 Nkbeeching a bit further top
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:12 Mscoree the thing about tanks and trenches?
 * Monster Pumpkin has left the chat.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:13 Nkbeeching i want to try and experiment with a new type of algo were industry and population have a greater importane on war effort or grand scale
 * whle a sort of mini algo takes care of individua battles
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:13 Mscoree wait, there were 1,250 U-boats in WW2 lol
 * I hope MP doesnt want me to list them
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:13 Nkbeeching yes that the one
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:13 Mscoree That's an interesting idea
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:13 Nkbeeching im still fleshing it out
 * Daeseunglim has joined the chat.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:14 Nkbeeching will have something ready for next week when i start the map gamr
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:14 Mscoree What would the master algorithm determine if the mini one is for battles?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:14 Daeseunglim Ms: sry bout confusing u!!!
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:14 Nkbeeching chance and do the calculations
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:14 Mscoree but if you win the main algorithm what happens?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:14 Daeseunglim With my pg in DD-1983
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:15 Mscoree @Dae no problem it's fine. When I first say it I thought you had renamed my page lol
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:15 Nkbeeching well for instance if the grand scale algo which would be based on populace morale, how much population you have and your industrial level
 * it would determine how long you can fight out a wwar before collapsing
 * Daeseunglim has left the chat.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Mscoree @Nk what I mean is, it doesn't make sense to have a main algorithm that determines if you win the war, then have mini algorithms for battles. Someone could win the main algo then lose every battle
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Nkbeeching if you are able to win sufficient mini algos you may earn a victory before you are out of time
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Mscoree Oh I see
 * Nice
 * So the main algorithm just sets the clock
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Nkbeeching ao
 * something like that
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Mscoree and you have to win enough mini ones before time runs out
 * I like it
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Nkbeeching yeah
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Mscoree Although, wouldn't some circumstances speed up clock?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:16 Nkbeeching each victory you get modifies your own war effort algo result
 * yes
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:17 Mscoree Like if the enemy starts occupying/destroying your industry I'd imagine time ticks a bit faster
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:17 Nkbeeching well if you lose parts of youee land that are heavily industrilaized
 * you lose that from your score and a new time is set
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:18 Mscoree Sounds like a cool idea
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:18 Nkbeeching alls if your population is dying alot and you cant replace front line troops you lose score as well
 * i know
 * i hope it works
 * morale of populace is also important component to grand strategy algo
 * if your population is tired and unwilling to fight revolution
 * or you are fored to sue for peace
 * basicly its to balance things out
 * and give some countries a fighting chance
 * it also allows for allies to backstab one another and gain a major advantage early on in a war
 * for instance if a neighbor overuns an unprepared fromtier they will push up to a certain point before a defensive line is set up
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:20 Mscoree Yeah that solves the problem of the Vietnam War in a map game. In any map game right now if the US made an algorithm against North Vietnam they would win by many points, but yet in OTL they lost the war.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:20 Nkbeeching basicly same as otl
 * yup
 * also for instance austria invading serbia
 * etc
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:20 Local Mafia Boss That is pretty cool
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:21 Nkbeeching but like i said it would be complicated and i need to see how to incoperate it
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:21 Local Mafia Boss So if, say, Britain invaded France, or visa versa, they would not hold it long?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:21 Nkbeeching well it depends
 * im only started on land warfare
 * havent began naval and amphibious algos
 * but yeah basicly
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:22 Local Mafia Boss As in, you can't invade slowly bit by bit to remove the Recent wars section?
 * Because the timer would run out
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:22 Nkbeeching well recent wars would affct populatin morale
 * if they win it will be high if they lost or suffered large casualties it will be mild to low
 * and if you have alarge advantage the war will end quickly
 * if you dont have an advantage due to defensivve bonuses
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:23 Local Mafia Boss You should have Guerrilla war
 * And it lasting longer depending on factors
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:24 Nkbeeching you could either be drawn into a long bloody war or a defensive counter attack
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:24 Local Mafia Boss Like... Wars between the nations
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:24 Nkbeeching i know i will work on tht l ater
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:24 Local Mafia Boss So if Britain annexed France, they would be unable to hold it very long
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:24 Nkbeeching guerilla will most likely be based on a simple equation
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:25 Local Mafia Boss As guerilla would be ongoing
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:25 Nkbeeching how many troops the occupiers have availblr in the region and a random number
 * all of it no
 * but a part for sure if they hold it down with enough troops
 * but that would al
 * add to war timer in a negative way if your at war
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:26 Local Mafia Boss Hang on
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:26 Nkbeeching ok
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:26 Local Mafia Boss I have an idea
 * Say Britain annexes France
 * And then tries to invade Germany
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:27 Nkbeeching they wwould become overstretched in that case
 * and they would not be able to reinforce their lines
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:27 Local Mafia Boss They should get a negative points thing for the timer because they are fighting from a region they do not properly control
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:27 Nkbeeching if they fail to initially win then they will slowly be pushed back
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:27 Local Mafia Boss Like the Germans against the Russians
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:27 Nkbeeching yes thats part of it
 * but for instace if you occupy a region that is oppressed by the enemy then you will be supported by them instead of resisted
 * atleast as long as they support you
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:29 Local Mafia Boss Yea
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:29 Nkbeeching forinstance if the americans hold onto a liberated france that has been ravaged by germany they will initially be recieved as liberators
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:29 Local Mafia Boss But when Germany is defeated
 * France would expect the USA to withdraw
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:29 Nkbeeching it could hhappen earlier
 * if the americans treat french like crap the french could revolt
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:30 Local Mafia Boss Well, yeah
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:30 Nkbeeching amking it harder fr the americans to fight and giving germans a chance to retake lost land
 * like i said you can either have a swft victory or grueling slug fest
 * and if you get involvved in costly war you wont be able to fight another war for a few years
 * Survivor321 has joined the chat.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:31 Nkbeeching not without collapsing
 * hey survivor
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:31 Survivor321 Ello
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:31 Mscoree Hello
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:32 Nkbeeching so what does everyone think?
 * Bfoxius has joined the chat.
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:32 Mscoree Hi Bfox
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:32 Nkbeeching bf hey
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:32 Mscoree I think it's a very good idea
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:32 Bfoxius Hello everyone
 * Any updates on YS?
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:33 Local Mafia Boss I think it is a good idea
 * <span class="time" style="color:rgb(156,156,156);float:right;font-size:12px;">8:33 Nkbeeching each war period will have a different mini algo
 * with the only thing remaining the same being manpower and terrain
 * other aspects would become idfferent

Hey Feud,

On AvA, I would like to offer a friendship agreement between the US and Brazil. I know the problem with Mexico was a bad move on my part, but how would you feel about the end of hostilities between our nations

Enclavehunter (talk)

That is agreeable. Enclavehunter (talk)

Rebuild MG
Any interest in rebooting Rebuild Map Game? Daeseunglim (talk) 14:18, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Do the terms of the Britain's surrender still apply to me as Australia? 900,000 dollars a year and a small army? That can cause some serious issues on my end. Australia wants to be free from the mistakes the British forced down on usTrust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 06:00, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Spain
i know just joking around ill provide mercenaries if you want i need the cash anyways ill be turning the netherlands into a neutral colonial trade nation if i can

France has literally no connections with the Celtic Union. Germany is actually focusing on Germanic areas.

03:05, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Oh he's got England too does he? Well that changes everything. I thought he only had Scotland and Ireland. Never mind all this if he has England.

03:13, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Can I join your Axis vs Allies map game?
Section header sums it up. Thank you in advance. ~TrueCommie

Join as Iran Axis vs Allies map game
Hey is Iran available to join as? Truecommunist (talk) 01:48, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Map game details
Thank you, I will join as the people's republic of Iran then. Do all of the participants in the map game post at a certain time or just once a day and I someone else's name next to Iran (in the place that is under the map) do I just replace that, with my name?

Hello, I have no idea how I got here but I belive the player listed as playing Iran is not supposed to be their as it's been more than five years (in game) since he posted last, Fued, Guns,or Scraw can awnser this.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 02:30, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Road to war
ive created the page and on saturday im starting up the algo

the usa is reserved since you called it so join up mate. Nkbeeching (talk) 19:45, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations, Feudalplague!


Kudos are in order. Keep it up ^^

Lordganon (talk) 11:34, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Hey saw what you said on chat, I'm ready to help. Kunarian TALK 20:08, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Atlantic islands and delimitation of claims.
I see that you are trying to colonize the Canary islands and that you are interested in Cabo Verde.of course, I, as Portugal, have interest in the Atlantic islands, so, how about a deal: you let me have the OTL Açores and Madeira and you can have Cabo Verde and the Canaries.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:27, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

I saw your second reply.The problem is while i am the head moderator, Scan locked me out of mapmaking, by using a format that is only compatible with a program that i don't have.Since your colony was supposed to be in the canaries all along, i can't do a mod event for this, since it would be acknowledging a mistake as fact, and i can't edit, so you have to warn Scan about this mistake.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 13:49, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Warning
Don't act like that in the chat. And, for the record, "high" is not an excuse. Lordganon (talk) 12:26, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

All I said was that it was an outpost, not a colony. And I'm sailing around Africa, not to the moon for Christ's sake. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:59, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

i need advice
would you mind coming onto the chat id like some help with something. Nkbeeching (talk) 19:06, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

PM3 Algo
I double checked your algorithm and it is a victory by 6 points which leaves you with ~2.5% of morocco and no grounds for such a harsh treaty. That's what you'll get on the map. My apologies this was not picked up sooner by another mod. Scandinator (talk) 13:34, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

My apologies, I check everything when I'm doing the maps. Most of the time I don't have time to check everything out. I'm a full-time employed (2 part time jobs with a 3rd on the way) university student. The fact I can squeeze a map every few days is a miracle. Scandinator (talk) 18:22, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Maximum help is appreciated. Every last drop of blood poured into this war will bear long-lasting fruit. After all, if we win while the enemy is merely a pup then they will not have the chance to develop into a fearsome beast. Kunarian TALK 08:52, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

You are not a mod. Stop ordering other players around. The mods will handle it. -Nova 16:35, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

todays turn
ill post tonights turn please dont, i have a series of events planned out. Nkbeeching (talk) 19:51, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

dealing with the egyptian problemEdit
we will eventually have to put the mumlak state in its place, i highly recommend once colonialism begins a war against them is waged over trade ,and colonial interests a joint effort will put them in there place. Nkbeeching(talk) 17:48, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII
In PMIII it appears that you claim to have 9 million people living with your nation. In 1516 the Crown of Castile had an estimated 4,500,000 inhabitants, so there is no possible way for you to have this large of a population, even with an agricultural surplus. Toţi în unu; Nihil Sine Deo

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Those events are not my fault.I don't know exactly who made it, but i am sure he took the event straight from the Wikipedia page from 1436.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:19, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Concerning trade, I would like to work this out too, see the page for my proposals. Kunarian TALK 17:51, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Road to War
i think its dead at this point, if you agree along with mp ill declare the game dead, and work on making vive remake. With Blood and Iron (talk) 18:49, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Trade Issues
I want to solve the problem too, I've put an offer on the page, which would really help if you would agree to. Especially as trade really doesn't make up the amount of your economy you might think, you make more money from people buying your goods and from traders (note: not your traders) landing in your ports to sell you goods. Now, who do you think has a lot of ships to land in your ports? ME! :D

Of course you earn no money directly off your traders, they are private individuals, maybe you have them organised into some sort of royal merchants, but they do not pay you anything but their loyalty. Anyone who claims that their merchants do that is ignorant of the world.

Venice's situation is different, Venice's fleet from day one has been both their last defence and their economic lifeline. It is fully state owned, although is much less like a true battle fleet. The state pays for the fleet to continue this and utilising also the extremely useful fact that Venice has some of the most advanced business laws in the world (probably 400 years ahead of our time), we make money. Due to our economic stability and our ability to allow enterprises to operate out of our lands. The state pays about 10% of our entire budget on the arsenal and the fleet, and that's just in peacetime!

Trade is the state and the state is trade, any attack on trade is an attack on the state. Or at least that is how it materialises.

So when I invaded Morocco and undermined you, by accident and mis-thought as it was, I was in many ways in the wrong. But it would in reality hurt nothing more than your pride if you didn't get land.

But the harm that would come to Venice if you continue to stop us from operating to the levels we do or attempt to unseat us would be immense. Can you see why I would react, with you super taxing Gibraltar and attempting to muscle out Venice from the Atlantic and claim all the gold and ivory for yourself?

I had to act, to defend my interests. As I have said, I do not want trade, or to steal your trade from you. Venice is the master of trade, the greatest trade empire and the greatest naval empire, no one can rival it because it started from that. Just like the way the Greeks have been a trade based people since before Christ OTL and now still have the largest trade fleet the world knows. Are they a super power? no. Are they traders and have the largest merchant navy the world knows? yes.

That is what I want to be. The trader, not the military superpower, not even the economic superpower. But the person who moves things from point A to point B and I am that.

When my ships landed in your ports with goods, it was not just me who benefited but you too! Castile cannot hope to muscle against everyone, certainly not if people make alliances and decide to use force.

Together you and me (including my trade allies) could master all the trade of the lands that the other Europeans aren't even aware exist yet.

I want the future of Castilian and Venetian co-operation. I want us to sail to all the new continents together, I want to carry your goods to lands wide and far. I don't want to steal away your money. I want to assist you in making more of it.

So refuse the offer I have made or accept it doing so would benefit both of us greatly believe it or not. Yes you wouldn't tax ships through Gibraltar but the Mediterranean would send flocks of ships to your ports to get Ivory and other goods. Not to mention I would help in the various trades going on in Africa.

If you refuse, we must talk. As I say, I only wish to be the trader, I still am now so let me continue being so. And Venetian trade will not undermine you, only make you stronger. Please reply. Kunarian TALK 22:13, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

PM3 Marriage
I'm not sure if you saw my diplomacy in 1446, but if you want we can wed my daughter to one of your sons. My oldest daughter, Anne, is twenty years old (born in 1427), so perhaps she'd be a good match for one of your sons. Let me know what you think. Mscoree (talk) 12:22, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

rules clarity.
Each nation has one turn during which it may do one of the following actions. So if i expand my nation, does this mean that I can't epand military as well?What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 03:29, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Work on the nation's military
 * Work on the nation's economy
 * Work on the nation's infrastructure
 * Expand the nation
 * Start or remain in a conflict.

Hey Feud, I need you in chat. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 06:44, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

PM3 SwankyJ maps
SwankyJ (talk) 00:25, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

SwankyJ (talk) 00:25, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Proposition
Hi Feud,


 * I would like to propose that "-1 for every personal union over 3 (or 2)" be added to the new algo. This, although have no bearing on the bonus as it's removed (thank you, that's a headache), would penalize those who have overexpanded their influence.

Hope you consider, I am that guy (talk) 00:57, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

The Magdeburg
Sorry for it being such a late reply.

See two guys on the faculty list at your university. One would be somewhat relevant to that, the other not. Was it Reckner or Milam that you had? The former is an American naval expert, and the other a Vietnam War expert. Obviously, one means more than the other.

But, I have to think that they're exaggerating its importance a bit.

The capture of the Magdeburg had, quite frankly, very little impact.

Really, the net result would be less fighting between the two groups. That's about it.

Remember, the Brits even with the codes lumbered about trying to find the German fleet, ambushing parts of it, and having parts of their own ambushed in turn. About the only benefit, really, was having some idea when they put to sea. They'd have known at some point anyway, given their patrols, and just how many resources the Germans would need to have to go beyond a cruise in the North Sea.

With no codes, you just see more random events.

Your professor is right about the fleets themselves. The Germans doing anything like that to the Brits - or vice-versa - just would not happen. There's a reason why the two larger battles from otl were draws. And if one of the two sides was going to do any "picking apart" it would be more likely for the Brits to do it.

Germany would still have to put in unrestricted submarine warfare. Ships kind of stuck in port. It's not about it being "active" but it existing at all that was the problem.

Zimmerman Telegram would still get sent anyway - its interception is the key, there. No doubt that the Germans did more than that one, to other powers. In a lot of ways, it makes strategic sense to do that. The US would have just been the most important.

Overall, the Germans had one real chance to win that war, right at the start, and they screwed it up - though that was because there was no way to have enough soldiers to do it, short of leaving Berlin entirely undefended and losing it to the Russians. Which is a loss, realistically.

Really doubt that they had any chance of winning.

Lordganon (talk) 16:15, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Recognized it has, King you shall be[http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:Andr3w777 ALLONS-Y! ] (Basically, RUN!) 16:54, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

infRastructure"
EoGuy (talk) 00:09, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what you're doing with Castile and Aragon. I am aware that we are going to enter personal union, but can we avoid this whole purging the Renaissance nonsense?

04:39, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Why would i do that? i didn't even know that this was happening.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:32, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not a vassal. It's more equalish. Anyway, if things don't work out, we can just divide the throne by giving one son Castile and the other Aragon.

15:59, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations on unifying Spain. SwankyJ (talk) 03:05, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Yo Feud, what was the thing with the "with three sisters i can back up the whole vile methods thing" about? I was just looking at the old chat box I left open a few hours ago and have no idea what that statement was about. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:11, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Three sisters huh? I come from a family that has 13 women in it, and only me, my brother, and our two little cousins are the only men in it (six if it count my two aunt's husbands). For the most part, it was just women for a long time. So I envy you and your three sisters. Could have been much worse. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 05:02, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

A favor to ask
Hey Feud, I saw the new map you put up today, and I noticed that Leinster (Eire's vassal, south of English-held Ireland) is a vassal of mine on the map. The previous map, made by Swanky, shows it fully integrated into Eire as I posted several turns ago. I have had it as a vassal for MUCH longer than 10 years, and it is culturally the exact same as my main nation, so there should be no troubles. Just a heads up to put that on the next map, as it's in the "Map Issues" section. <font color="#29AB87">Bow To Your Sensei. <font color="#002366">BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!!!

How though? He did not post about his expansion into Banu Sulaym until after it was shown in my colour on the map? Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:20, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Disease
K, if you want a virus, I have three suggestions. Course, my knowledge of biological diseases is limited to two terms of High School study, so if you have a better source...
 * 1) The first contender, to kill no less than 60-70% of the population of Europe, would affect the lungs. After being spread (by a sneeze, cough, somesuch), the virus would reach the lungs and incubate there for several days, whereupon it would begin to build up small, pus filled buboes-like lumps. These would affect breathing, and would slowly kill off the alveoli, making it impossible for the person to properly exchange gases. The virus would soon spread, causing similar "lumps" throughout the rest of the body, causing high fever, and, as the lumps burst, would cause blood poisoning that would eventually overwhelm the kidneys. After around a week or two, the person would die, in approx 75-80% of cases. This disease could not be cured with the knowledge of that time, and, frankly, would be impossible to quarantine- none of these would be.
 * 2) The second, milder contrender, to kill approx 30% of the population of Europe, would actually arrive in the blood stream, where it would quickly attack and "hijack" blood cells, going to the brain. The result would be an extremely high fever, of at least 103-104 degrees, as well as extreme weakness and chills as the hijacked blood cells died. Death would occur after a month or two, in 20-30% of cases.
 * 3) The last, least- to kill no more than 10% of the population of Europe- of the diseases would affect the lungs, again, but this time would merely cause difficulty in breathing rather than the effects on the blood in the other two, The disease would severely affect the ability of the body to breathe, causing a small fever along with it- a more traditional flu. It would kill approx 5-10% of cases, but would spread fairly fast, making it, ironically, the hardest of these to quarantine.

00:22, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII
More people added turns to 1465...mainly italy's block and a another one I believe... dont remember which nation exactally but you can check the edit history for that. Just trying to help... g greg e  (talk)  19:31, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Im interested in aquiring cyprus in the long term still.... chat with me about it some time, also I still have Katrina to marry off g greg e   (talk)  21:49, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Let the record show that the state that you had pointed out to me was not on the current map at the time and therefore I did not have an accurate assesment of the nation's size compared to Castile's.

I don't blame you for this, but I do blame the constant updating of the map by people who are not authorized to do so, and as such I will head the crackdown in that regard.

As long as you realize that the larger state will still take longer to vassalize than the previous one, then go ahead.

"<font color="#AACC99">This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 20:13, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

The small Christian Enclaves in Africa.... would it be plausible for Alexandria to invite them to come to Alexandria/become autonomous regions of Alexandria for defense and protection? g greg e  (talk)  05:12, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifing how to add the Kingdom of Albion in my algo. Could you check the algo for other errors (ie...doing the math correct and other such things)...other than population which Kun and I are trying to figure out right now. Thank you for your contributes as a mod and friend once again. g greg e  (talk)  18:33, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for picking it up- sorry about that Ozymandias2 (talk) 20:52, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Koryak Confederacy PMIII
Well, fair enough, it is a little ASB. Would it be possible for me to keep my trading port on Kodiak Island? Its a lot closer than some of the ports European nations are having in Africa, and its not ASB, given that native Siberians knew Alaska existed for thousands of years before its "discovery". I'll avoid expansion until a realistic time. It's a little irritating it took this long to hear this, because this turns my past thirty posts into nonsense, but I guess it happens when there are so few mods. Krasnoyarsk (talk) 22:08, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

On second thoughts, given that my last thirty posts now make no sense, I'd like to order an asteroid, please. A large one. Krasnoyarsk (talk) 22:43, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Fued the guaymians will change thier numbers, i was told our land covered most of current day panama from another source, but that is obviously not true. Sorry about the implausability im just a little new with the game.

Cheeseball007 (talk) 02:42, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

The Plague
Feud, you do know that the plague is something that can go away. The reason places such as Milan and Venice escaped the plague relatively untouched is because they took the exact same measures to counter the plague as Oyo did. Milan's government walled off the houses of the families suspected of having the plague, including the healty ones, preventing the spread of the disease. Venice quranatined entire ships to a seperate island they controlled for more than a month before letting them dock in Venice. These two cities had the lowest death tolls from the plague as a result. Just because you and everyone else may be expecting 10% casualty rates, doesn't mean I should as well. I've already taken stringent measures to deal with the matter, as "primitive" as the mods may believe they are, and I plan to deal with this issue and come out with my population intact whether you like it or not. I'm coming out of this with a 0.5-1% death toll like a boss. B(

Also, I would suggest following some of the OTL examples of qurantine to protect your population, such as the great wall of fire around the Palais des Papes to protect the Pope from the plague, or the methods taken by Venice and Milan if you wish to maintain your edge without destroying a chunk of your manpower force. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:41, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Now where with all that energy did you see me complain? All I stated was that I was going to do my best to deal with the plague plausibly and realistically, since such a way existed OTL. I even offered advice for Castille. Also, the only reason everyone else is taking the plague in stride is because everyone else is ignoring it or doing the exact same thing I'm doing in-game. Look at the Netherlands, their taking precautions the same way I did. The only reason I complain is because the mods either mention me directly and I step in to defend myself (since no one else will), they make their actions against me very visible, or I mention the subject like I just did, and the mods, like you just did, say I'm complaining when I'm. So here's some free advice; take the two step program like "a normal person", and chill out. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:37, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

AM1
Game started

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Mediterranean_(Map_Game)

Your Points

 * 1) The posts have been growing, the most recent one is fifteen years old, the oldest is forty. I've mentioned their growth in several posts. They're no longer mere outpost in the middle of nowhere.
 * 2) Why do the otl explorations powers (essentially) get all the fun stuff. Everywhere, not just historically, competition has been a huge motivator. I've never posted my ships and stuff going ahead and beyond, and never will. But Hamburg will be right behind. Why do we stick so close to otl? At what point do we say, "otl is no longer binding us so strictly."
 * 3) When you last spoke to me on this subject (in the late '40s if I recall) you told me to wait about ten years. Now, going on 35 years later, I'm reaching a point which is completely plausible given the progression.

I'm sorry, here I thought we were allies. My mistake.

Marwar-Mughal
When will it happen? I don't actually care, I just want to know, so it doesn't surprise me. <font color="#00AAE4">Sky Green 24 12:18, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Game Started
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Road_to_War_(Map_Game) has started.90.244.87.140 01:06, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I was just perusing the Spanish Confederation page for PM3 and I noticed 2 major flaws. The first is your national motto. Please see the Talk Page for the description of that problem.

The second problem is that your flag and crest have the seal of the Bourbon family but that took place in the Spanish War of Succession, and would not be in your flag. Trying to be helpful. 04:00, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Indian League stopping Marwar-Mughal
I need you to kind of halt that decision of the League, you can read what I wrote on the Indian league page.

<font color="#00AAE4">Sky Green 24 09:01, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Bengal
Now that I am no longer Gwalior so tell Bengal to never talk to me again. Seriously, he was so annoying.. He has a population of 10,000,000 and he used to make a fuss about me having 205,000.. .-.

Seriously, I found it extremely unfair as to how he forced me to switch my nation -.- .. BTW Who is the EOGuy? - HeiligReich

In my defense, I've never said anything about your population being any sort of problem. Does that even really make sense? "We don't like you because of your population". Your EXTREMELY implausible actions necessitated my action. You are a new player who crossed several countries to call a nation that we fought no less than 30 years ago a "brother" and wished to be subjugated by them, break apart the League, and make up things about Bengal being a "warmonger" and a "tyrant". In all reality, it's extremely odd that you did all those actions AND went out of your way to go against Bengal from the getgo. If anyone's annoying, it's a person who makes no attempt to understand the political climate of their game region before making implausbily odd decisions, and then complain about being treated badly. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 06:33, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

My post on 1486 or 87.. You complained about my population being 205,000 whilst your own during this recent war of yours was 10,000,000. Implausible actions? All I did was visit the Mughals through Dhundar and use their port to trade with Oman and Iran. You talked about preserving sovereignty, rights etc of all Indian States. Then how dare you meddle with Gwalior's foreign affairs? Apparently trading with a nation means I want to become his vassal. You're the idiot. It is indeed the truth that every action I took was against the way you had envisioned India. I certainly could not be your vassal. None of the nations said a word when you invaded Ava.. And you complain about me being implausible? You invaded an entire country with whom you traded with/had peaceful relations for 30 years just because 10-15 merchants got held captive and you say my actions were implausible.. Wow. Damn, you even had problems with me being in a dynastic union with Dhundar.... OH I forgot to mention how you pissed your pants and requested China, Tibet and Vijaynagar to prepare for war because I visited Kabul.. That's the height if your stupidity. Even if I get vassalized by every single nation one by one except Bengal, I would still be more happy than I was in India - HeiligReich.

Please sir, calm down, I do not understand why you have said "you're the idiot", like you're trying to imply I have called you same. That wasn't me complaining about your population, it was most likely a mod, so please check page history so you actually know who it actually says what. You visited the Mughals and called them "Brothers", you literally picked the Indian Leagues biggest enemy and called them "brothers", and allied with them. If you wanted to use a port, like I said on the Indian League page several times specifically to you, the Free Travel of Merchants allows you to use any Indian nations port without having to pay taxes, tariffs, or anything, yet you went directly for the Mughals and said "we prefer to be under them than Bengal", yet Bengal, and any other Indian state, save yourself, had made absolutely no outright attempt to vassalize you or any other Indian state. I preserve the sovereign rights of the Indian states, specificially the '''one you were invading. '''When you try to invade an Indian state, I will side with the non-belligerant one and preserve the rights you are taking away by telling you "No". Not by vassalizing you, not by annexing you, but by telling you "No". That kind of action, pointed out to my thankfully by Sky, made me watch every single action you made due to your already history of trying to annex/vassalize League states. But you couldn't handle that, you had to jump into a rant which basically said "Bengal won't let me kill small nations it swore to protect. This is an outrage and I refuse to be in a League with someone who stops me from breaking very ideals upon which the League was founded.". Friendly relations with Ava? I've traded with them yes, but have never made an alliance or anything like that. I've been sending in merchants for years who had more of a goal of converting than trading, and I have been for years trying to upstart an Islamic uprising in Ava. Yes I've traded with them, but I in no way have as friendly to them as I was to Kamarumpa before they asked me to vassalize them. Also, if you will notice, I simply surround their cities demanding the traders back. All they had to do was give the traders back and my armies would have left with the original goal completed, except, they didn't do that. They raised an army to challenge mine and never gave back my, and probably other Indian nations traders (Since they could travel freely through Bengal and into Ava), so I fought the armies they raised, since they made the situation extemely more complex than it should have been, like some other nations have done recently as well. I NEVER said anything about your dynastic union with Dhundar, I literally NEVER mentioned Dhundar. Again, please check page history about who said what before you go on falsely accusing me of actions I have never taken. China, Tibet and Vijaynagar have always been my allies, and it's not called preparing for war, it's called looking like the biggest guy with the biggest allies so the smaller guy will listen to you without having to go to war. Would you have allied with the Mughals and wished to incite rebellion in the League if you knew that Bengal had four times the allies willing to fight than you? Of course not, the idea was to look stronger so you didn't go all willy-nilly in how you conducted yourself in the League. You literally don't read a single thing I've put do you? You just like to run around and claim Bengal as a warmonger who wants to annex and vassalize India, yet they are literally the only nation you've dealt with that HASNT attempted anything like that, and Gwalior is now the only Indian nation that has made any attempt to vassalize and annex other Indian states, not Bengal. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 12:34, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

First of all, when I had joined I was unaware of the Indian League and Treaty of Delhi. That is why I had invaded Mewar because I did not know

Second of all, my alliance with the Mughals should've had created no problems. If you look back at history, you would realize that a single war doesn't mean you're enemies forever. I might have been the 'rebel' of the League but I needed a way to counter Bengals influence who were quite famous in Jaunpur, Vijaynagar etc.

Third of all, no it was not a mod because that guy actually used caps and bold to get the mods attention

Fourth of all, Did you not vassalize Andaman, Orissa, Ahom and Koch? Did you not annex Garjat? Peacefully or not, you can't just say 'I never vassalized any Indian state'

Fifth of all, I like how Alexandria literally controls the East Mediterranean, Red and Arabian Sea. I wonder how much a nation would suffer if Alexandria imposes trade sanctions on them

Sixth of all, let's stop arguing

First of all, if you look back at history, you would realize that people rarely forgive one genocide in 100 years, let alone two of them.

Second, then it was probably Greg, who is the best non-mod player right now.

Third, for the final time, Ahom and Koch were not Indian, and Andaman was uninhabited. If anything, I've increased the amount Indian states. Garjat fell into Bengal because one of my Sultans was the heir to the throne, can't avoid it because of a lack of other heirs. Orissa fell into dynastic union because of intermarriage and good relations. Let me correct myself: "I've never annexed or vassalized an Indian state through war or for my own benefit as you like to claim"

Fifth, did you seriously just try to threaten me with another players nation? Go ahead and tell the Christian nation to do your bidding, see where that gets you.

Sixth of all, now, we are done. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 15:47, May 2, 2014 (UTC) Nawh, it was under Greg since he leaves his name at the end BTW I did not threaten you with Alexandria. I just said I like how he controls the Red, Arabian and East Mediterraean Sea. That is all. .-.

Ionian Islands
Is it possible that I could just purchase the remaining islands that were accidentally added? When I said those regions I was sort of including the remaining islands, but maybe I wasn't very clear, since I didn't know any of the official names. Mscoree (talk) 01:08, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Zapoteca/España
Treaty page would be nice. If you get it started, I can get to it sometime tomorrow (another final tomorrow morning, but the weekend is pretty clear for me). Cour *talk* 02:29, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Would the Zapotec have the faintest idea who Bengal or Alexandria are? Considering neither would reach the Zapotec for many a year to come?

23:35, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I've been sitting on chat for a long time waiting for you. You coming? Cour *talk* 23:50, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

So as long as I state that it's through you, I'm still honoring the treaty and I can begin trade relations with France? Cour *talk* 19:26, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Ayutthaya
Hey, so, for my post this turn, I need to know what nations are revolting. The mod event said 6 nations but only specified Aceh (and there are actually 8 nations that Ayutthaya has taken in Sumatra, counting Sunda), and then after last night's, umm, discussion, I'm not sure what's happening anymore. Can you give me a list so I can make the algo and post?

Thanks,  13:36, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Get your behind back on chat. We need you! Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:42, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah. It happened to everybody appearently. I thought it was just my internet. Nice I don't have to stab anyone at Comcast now. :D Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:06, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

All of it.If not, as much as possible.I also want to avoid conflict.And about my colonization plans, they are: Brazil and maybe some small surrounding areas.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:24, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Could you come to chat for a moment? <font color="#00AAE4">Sky Green 24 15:16, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

new ava
up for helping the zionists create their own state? With Blood and Iron (talk) 00:16, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

im pretty much going for a greater israel, possibly a multi-faith state of the levant if that s possible though doubtful, i want to create a balance in the middle east.With Blood and Iron (talk) 02:24, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Uesugi Clan PMIII
Feud, can you take a look at the turns for the Uesugi Clan? For the last few turns, they've just been taking parts of Japan without using the percentage algo. They've posted their claims in the map changes section on the talk page so you can see how ridiculous it is, bearing in mind they've only been active 5 turns.


 * Feud ms crapped a lot of things about the algo and underscored me in some points next time please don't allow ms to do the algo changes, hadn't I already signed the peace treaty I would ask more guys in the war to equalize the war lol Sine dei gloriem &#34;Ex Initio Terrae&#34; (talk) 07:30, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

What is the currency and status of the currency of Spain? I would like to move towards that currency, as we are growing closer in relations at all times and this is a key step towards normalizing relations? I have also discovered a possible sockpuppet, so I'll be sure to keep you up to date on that. I am banned from chat for now, so go to MGW if you need to actually chat. Thanks, 08:01, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

RDE
Is it resuming or restarting? Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Hey, Feud. So, I will be travelling for a couple of days and unable to post in PM3. Was hoping you could add my post to the end of your posts.

I'd need you to do this for June 16, 17, and 18. I'll be able to post after that, but only for a brief bit and then I am off again and will ask you to post for me again. Here is my basic post: I really need you to watch out for mod events. Any war or revolutionary movement should be deemed impossible as I have over 35k fighing men vs 25k fighting men, and mine are better equipped. Please make sure that you bring that up if the need arises.
 * In the Empire of Madagasikara, economic development continues as spices are grown commercially more and more, as with other crops. Latinized Malagasy and Christianity continue to spread throughout all the lands owned by Madagasikara. The presence of many troops in Kilwa calms any potential threats to national security. Ignacio also continues to focus on the full integration of all of his states as fully Madagasikaran lands. In addition to using Spanish merchants to transport the goods, a rising field is becoming a merchant. Madagasikaran merchants begin to use the Philadelphi Canal to trade with other nations in the Eastern Mediterranean. The ship-building industry continues to thrive in the city of Mahajanga. Namibia, expands along the coast by the maximum amount. Military turn (navy improved).
 * Mozambika sees Madagasikaran culture pour into former Mozambikan lands from former Pembaran lands. Sofala continues to develop closer to Madagasikaran culture. Ignacio and his cadre of advisers work tirelessly to ensure that Sofala will never leave Madagasikara again.

The only thing you need to change is Military turn (navy improved) to Economic turn and then back to Military turn (navy improved).

Thank You, 09:43, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
I see you editing no less than 49 minutes ago. Get on chat, now haha. &#34;SO SAYETH THE EAGLE&#34; - Fascist Eagle ಠ_ಠ (talk)

Yeah, hit me up on chat whenever. CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 14:45, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I was there, but I went to get a snack, but I have returned to chat. &#34;SO SAYETH THE EAGLE&#34; - Fascist Eagle ಠ_ಠ (talk) 03:37, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Cresents Question
I had a question I wanted to ask y poo u earlier, but I had to teach some 10 year olds how to tie a square knot (don't ask, boy scout summer camp).

Are we allowed to start working on the pages for the TL?

And if not, since North America turned out different, we could work on that?

<font color="#D7DF01">Saturn (Talk) 01:32, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, i can.My first colony (Lenhame) was founded in 1420, so, since over 100 years have already passed since its foundation, i can expand 100px a turn (i thought it was 80.will fix it after 1540.), and split it between my colonies.I wouldn't be doing this if i couldn't.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:25, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Only if you have a colony founded before 1440.Your "Territories" section looks a little outdated.Not as much as Albion's section but...--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:24, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Naijira partition
that land was not what i was originally talking abotu in central oyo, ill trade you what i got for Benin which would serve my purposes better to create a client state in cameroon and eastern nigeria. what do you say? With Blood and Iron (talk) 18:24, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Please Read - PM3 Absence
Hey Feud. Just wanted to make sure you are reading this message because its not 3 days this time. Its 2 weeks. Pretty important that you post for me.

Now, for such an extended absence, I'd also like you to advocate for me on map issues. When you make your map for 1545, would you mind having all of my lands in place, including my colony. (If nobody has said anything, just consider it to be nobody objecting).



Continuing on the maps topic, here are a few maps that show what the map should look like for me. The only thing wrong with the map to the right is that Maputo is owned by me, and is part of Sofala. So, the whole coast is mine.



For Namibia, it is growing at 100 px per 5 years. The map to the right is for 1540.

Ok, now on to posting for me. So, I will give you my "base post". Also, IDK how the issue with al-Sumal (Mogadishu) was resolved, but now since you are in the Madagasikara League, it will be war if he tries to vassalize it.

Base Post
Just note that you will have to change the end of each post (the part in bold) from either Military (and naval) turn to Economy turn, and vice versa on alternating years.

Please just keep up with any mod events and Eastern or Southern Africa-related events and just post this and all should be great. Additionally, if you would like to throw in any cultural stuff, I'd be more than happy to have them. Thank you very much. 07:01, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Madagasikara continues to develop its unique culture, which is an ever-changing mixture of Spanish, Malagasy, and Bantu cultures. The unique make-up of the culture emphasizes hard-work, and as such a number of farmers are starting to make great amounts of money as a result of their labors. Ignacio continues to focus on the full integration of all of his states as fully Madagasikaran lands, including al-Swahili and the newest member of the Madagasikaran League, al-Sumal. All of the firstborn sons of traders, powerful farmers and nobles of the coastal nations continue to study at the University of Mahajanga for at leas two years. The spice trade continues to fuel the economy of Madagasikara, and trade blossoms greatly. The work in shipyards to construct the most modern navy possible continues with great success. Madagasikara continues to influence the government in Mogadishu, both culturally, economically and politically. Shipbuilding along the west coast of Madagasikara continues to pick up as a vital industry, but intra-national competition from Coastal Madagasikaran states begins to also rise. The Emperor continues to fund Christian Arab migration to the region, focusing on Alexandria, Banu Sulaym, Morocco, Tunisia, Georgia, and Rome. Namibia expands along the coast by the maximum amount. Economy turn.
 * Mozambika sees Madagasikaran culture pour into former Mozambikan lands from former Pembaran lands.
 * Sofala continues to develop closer to Madagasikaran culture. Sofala is quickly evolving into a powerful trading center, with access to both the north and also to the south. Ignacio and his cadre of advisers work tirelessly to ensure that Sofala will never leave Madagasikara again, especially now that Maputo was added back to Sofala.
 * Kilwa, under some military control, experiences massive conversions to Christianity as missionaries pour into the city. Introduction of Latinized Malagasy continues, although a more Swahili dialect is implemented to ease the transition.

Almost Forgot
Couple last things:
 * 1) Just post for me until I either contact you on chat or leave you a message on your talk page. Thanks.
 * 2) In RDE, I have just went ahead and removed my name from the signups. 2 weeks is just too long for an absence, and China is a major power and its unfair for me to prevent someone else from having the experience.
 * 3) Just a thought, SAR 2 may be a nice revival once RDE gets old (hopefully it outlasts the latest AvA and I can rejoin when I get back)

PM3 Algo question-Development
When doing algos, are the economic bonuses added before or after the division?

Like, should it be if both nations have 20 eco, yet one has larger trade, should it be this: <font color="#00AAE4">Sky Green <font color="A00000">24 - Join the party  09:05, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) 20/20=1+5=6
 * 2) OR 25/20=1

i saw this...
on the italian pm3 page, i saw under the relations that castile was an ally of ita;y, yet, you took it over. whats up with that? -saturn

ok, all i need now is a good nation for when im full time again. any sugestions?

what i meant to say was, when im full time again, could i play as genoa?

Atropatene RDE
Hey Feud, I was just wondering whether there was a difference between the Atropatanae and the Atropene? On the nations list, Atropatene is listed twice, once under Hellenic Nations and again under Arabian. Also there's Atropatanae. I'm a bit confused- are these the same? Thanks Ozymandias2 (talk) 23:55, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

PM3 Map
Muchas gracias señor! I thought that expansion would never get on there! Cour *talk* 03:29, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

I thought that Ms had already fixed that particular problem in the 1540 map.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:45, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

I thought you were talking about he fact that the supposed Mapuches had expanded into territory that i was expanding into in the coast.then in 1535, Mscoree decided to add their expansion in detriment of mine.I told him that he was supposed to replace the pixels i had lost and how i am expanding every map.the map was alright in 1540, but, all you said doesn't explain why when you made the map for 1545, my colonies weren't expanded at all.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:08, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

You cannot not know my expansion rates.you asked me just some days ago how i was being able to expand 4000 px a turn, and i told you how and also told you that i would expands 100 px every year(implicitly).--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:31, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Civilizations: The Dawn Resumption
Hi!

So, if you may have heard, Civilizations: The Dawn, the map game over at mapgame.wikia, will be resuming tonight, July 3, and it'd be great if you will come back and resume playing. Thanks!

Cookiedamage (talk) 23:50, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Brandenburg
I had a quick question about one of the recent moderator events. I'm not sure I really understand the reasoning behind Brandenburg revolting. Brandenburg was part of the Bohemian Crown in OTL and never revolted, but was rather gifted away. I even removed it from personal union, lowering my overall power and making the state seemingly more easy to manage. I thought we had an agreement that if I annexed several of my vassals I wouldn't be targeted with moderator events while I was away. I also thought that you said vassals would be more likely to rebel if they are constantly used in algorithms, but Brandenburg and Pomerania I have hardly (if ever) used in a war. I see now however that the event was made the very day I departed. I spent decades building up relations in the area, creating royal marriages with local lords and researching some of the politics in the area, and I now wonder what the point of all that is if they will be removed randomly. I gave rule in those areas to local lords married into the Habsburgs (I believe I called it the Brandenburgian Line), and I have no idea why someone would rebel against their family in an effort to actually lose influence/power/land. They are rebelling against the people who gave them 100% of their land and they appear to not gain anything from the action. I understand that in history people would fight with members of their family to gain power or land, but here there is neither. For that reason I ask that this event be changed, and I look forward to reading what you have to say on the matter. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 17:19, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Also something to note, at the time I had seven vassals (including Brandenburg and Pomerania). Compare this to France who posts for nineteen nations besides itself. Mscoree (talk) 22:14, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Vacation
I'm going on vacation from the 11th to the 20th. Would you mind copy-pasting my posts for me? The only thing that needs to be changed post to post is expansion - one turn, Zapoteca expands 100px along the Gulf Coast, the next turn, Itzapam expands 50px along the Pacific Coast. Thanks! Cour *talk* 22:06, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Land In PM3
Hey Can I Get Some Land In The Aragon Lands I Would Be Glad If You Say Yes i Will be Allies With You

Response
They are there as part of The Treaty of Chan Chan as Sine is the help with my naval devlopment.They where going the be there anyway but if you don't approve I'll remove them. <font color="#191970"> I am on the edge...  The EdgeofNight   15:01, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hispania Port Act


Sergiusz01 (talk) 00:30, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sucking Out Trade Is A THing And I Am Doing It To Your Colonies IT was HistoricalSergiusz01 (talk) 17:06, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Andorra
It does not have to be a major power just a small country that has good enough trade

Your not allowed to cross out my words Sergiusz01 (talk) 23:08, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

andorra
O i Dont see your name on the mod list but will always have cores ther because navarra to for narvarra I forgot to add the formations of andorra but i did it like this Andorra - Navarra - Aragon - Aragonese Empire

I left the script somewhere ont know where

Sergiusz01 (talk) 00:07, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

I am not a vassal of france it does not say Sergiusz01 (talk) 00:18, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

that aragonese empire will be like in the end of the game Sergiusz01 (talk) 07:57, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

1.Ok will will Ask

2. Sure

3  I Don't Care

4 ...

1 Not Realistic.... Its alternative History

2 I Really Don't Car If Your Major Power

Treaty
Sorry the soldiers in Italy part was another example of the wording being strange and me not being entirely sure what you meant. As for the alliance, I asked you like five times in chat, and I thought you said yes. Anyway, a NAP is fine. Mscoree (talk) 13:54, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII: Colonization
Recently in PMIII I've purchased the Gdansk region from the nation of Prussia so Yankovic can have a reason to leave the HRE bye being separated from it. Because of this I'm going to join in on colonization and I was wondering if I can colonize OTL Puerto Rico if you have no problem with that. Toţi în unu; Nihil Sine Deo

== Real Noise ==

Good Morning Feudalplague i want to Make some real noise!!!!!!!! ArsenaliaFIRE (talk) 01:41, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Recent Diplomacy and Map Question
I know it can get lost in the wall of text, so I just wanted to let you know I offered to buy back Kluftland (the territory from the Oyo war), and also offered you a potential military alliance in my latest turn (1579). Let me know what you think.

Expect the new map to be up later tonight, probably a few hours after the new turn. A quick question regarding the map, is Sine supposed to own Gibraltar, or is that an error? Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 17:28, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Treaty of Paris
I didn't change the map, I just removed the duplicate ones, as there were several on there. The one that was on there was from weeks ago when the treaty was made, and since no one said otherwise I thought it was official. Also that one closely follows what it says in the treaty itself, whereas the other one has been said to be wrong, even by some of the belligerents.

I didn't take back Venice. As our treaty says that whole are is jointly owned/occupied. For that reason I thought it would make the most sense to have the area colored one color, as long as we understand the agreement. Else we should color the whole region, because that one pixel is just one pixel out of many.

Can my map be put back? As far as I can tell it is the only one that actually follows the treaty. The one that is currently up there actually conflicts with things in the treaty, and is incorrect according to the very people who wrote certain parts. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 20:43, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Feud I wouldn't do that. I never did during our union. This isn't some sort of trick to steal Italy from you. I will follow the treaty we agreed to, that I promise. As for the map, we all agreed to and signed one thing, and then a map gets posted with something completely different. It's like if a decade after Versailles, the allies added more concession of land from Germany, even though the war was over. Stuff not even mentioned on the page at all (not in the demands, proposals, or terms) was put on the map. I am just trying to get it corrected as it says on the treaty. Mscoree (talk) 21:31, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Philippines
I'm not trying to take any of the Philippines, I was just trying to trade with certain tribes there (or yourself if interested). I was doing that for a while actually, and it was kind of outdated anyway. Harvenard2 (talk) 20:51, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, sorry for the misunderstanding. I offered you a trade agreement on your latest turn. Harvenard2 (talk) 21:33, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Dawei
Here is that map with the offered enclave of Dawei.



Aternix (talk) 06:04, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

See here: User blog:Reximus55/Chat Replacement for what we are doing to go around the chat issues. 19:44, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

Pegu
Draw up the treaty and I'll sign it.

Sorry, I've been really inactive and that's not going to change till 1600 at the latest. I'll still post, tho.

Sukhothai was given to Ayutthaya. Pegu was always Chinese. Speaking of which, I'd like Sukhothai back.

01:02, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

I also want preferential trade with you and your colonies.

Ain't none of that Indian iron go be washing up on Spanish shores. Pure Chinese, that's the best, mhm... *snap snap snap*.

01:22, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Well, naturally. I expected no less.

12:35, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII Pskov Algos
I see that there are now two algos for the war with Pskov in PMIII, which one is the official one? Toţi în unu; Nihil Sine Deo

Royal Marriage Proposal
Hi, I'm contacting all the major nations in Europe in PM3 to tell you about some royal marriage proposals available this turn, for three different royal families. On my turn there are currently fifteen people who are looking for a spouse, simply reply to my turn as soon as you can to reserve a person. I will be looking over the proposals to try to avoid incest (although a little incest never killed nobody haha), and if you'd like to see family relations yourself, feel free to check out this page, where the family tree is located. If you would like further information or my recommendations for a particular person, message me back with your available children and their ages and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 15:44, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Austrian Colonies


As requested by Sine I made a map showing which areas I have colonized. The reason I am messaging you is because I wanted you to take a look at that map and see if anything I have colonized so far interferes with anything you want. I only colonized most of that because I wanted to trade it in for the smaller, less valuable original land I had, which had sentimental value to me. Anything that interferes with your claims I can just sell to you eventually. Also I am willing to buy back that land from the Oyo war, so please let me know when you're ready to sell. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 23:09, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Is there a limit to how much south I should go? Do you want Gabon in particular? I really don't want a conflict here so honestly just tell me. Else if it's alright I might expand south to meet you, at a point you can decide. Mscoree (talk) 23:46, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Map Displacement
Will do. I'm just going to take an older map and add all the expansion since onto the land. Mscoree (talk) 02:13, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

I'm working on the map now and should have it up by tomorrow. Since Sine isn't answering me, I want to ask your opinion on something. Should I add the changes from the Treaty of Paris, or from Sine's map? Sine gave himself land that wasn't in the treaty at all, not in the discussion, the proposals, the terms, etc, and some even contradict what was written in the treaty. Should I add it anyway? I mean I get that he won and can take whatever he wants, but it feels kind of cheap to write out what you want and then twenty years later say "Oh yeah uh we meant to take more". Not to mention his new acquisitions make no sense whatsoever, as he has proceeded to make a series of Northwest Angles, but all along the Rhine River. Anyway, I will keep working. Besides that it should be good. Mscoree (talk) 03:38, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

Also don't be alarmed if your colonies look a lot bigger. In modern day Uruguay alone there's about 900 pixels in the water that I will use to expand that colony for example. Oh and another thing I was just reminded of, I don't know if you saw on the moderator page, but I was in the middle of writing an event to collapse my colonies along rivers more inland. To be honest I kept expanding and didn't realize I had already taken the whole coast, so when the time came to actually add it, I had to add it somewhere other than the coast haha. I will put it on this map for now, but in a few years time it will be gone. Mscoree (talk) 04:12, August 13, 2014 (UTC)



Here is the final map. Let me know if you catch anything wrong. Mscoree (talk) 16:01, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

What a dick move lol. Sigh, I'll see what I can do... CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 12:44, August 14, 2014 (UTC)

Doesn't look like he did sign up as them. I'll keep an eye on it, though. CrimsonAssassin-See you, space cowboys 12:48, August 14, 2014 (UTC)

Retcon
I wanna ask you something regarding a Retcon, when you see this see if i'm in chat to discuss it Sine dei gloriem &#34;Ex Initio Terrae&#34; (talk) 15:23, August 14, 2014 (UTC)

Out of Town
I'm going out of town until Sunday, could you copy-paste my turn in PM3 until I get back? Thanks. Cour *talk* 17:40, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII Iroquois
Hey, sorry if this is an annoyance, but we spoke several weeks ago on the possibility of an Iroquois-Hispanic deal of some sort, and I have been asking over the past few turns to open diplomacy with you and Andy. If you are not interested anymore, that's fine, but it'd be great if you could alert me on what you think.

Bfoxius (talk)

Burma
Hmm, I didn't see anywhere that you claimed it...

How about we do a land deal and divide accordingly seeming ive already colonised some of the land.

Aternix!? 01:26, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Fine, I will halt where it is now... Aternix!? 01:38, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

1848
I would be glad if you helped me as mod.Whipsnade (talk) 07:39, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Italy (PMIII Map Game)
Well, look like Empire of Hispania has sub-divion into two main nations, Spain and Italy. Italy is current personal union under Hispania and that people they lived in Italy are Italians. Now if you look the Italian Language on Wikipedia, it would really the same Spanish too, but is Random language. Italian people are tied after 77 years of Spanish rule and Italy must leave Hispania. I cant play PMIII Map Game and I want to pick an better new nation, Italy I picked. It would this creating own royal house and its own king rule an independent Italy here and eric4e play this nation. Now if you look this map right here, is a map of Italy in 1600, showing Italy in dark violet, Hispania in dark yellow, France in bark blue and Lombardy in light green. I picked the OTL Italian Flag for independent Italy, if you look right here.

So please, Italy will end the union, and then bring Italy as an independent state thanks.

Eric von Schweetz, You Young and Sweet Boy! 12:10, August 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Lol, Eric as Italy. I'm laughing like crazy... Saturn (Talk/Blog) 14:29, August 23, 2014 (UTC)

Kluftland
Hey, I noticed that the other day you annexed my former colony of Kluftland. I thought you said you would sell it to me soon after, or was that just a lie to give me a false sense of hope? If you are still open to selling it I will definitely buy it. What do you say? Mscoree (talk) 21:03, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

The 1848 Game
Look, I'm getting tired of this game already. Sincerely, I'm getting tired of this wiki. If you want perfect plausibility, read History. I though alternate history was supposed to be alternate. So, I'm stopping to go to the game, probably. Just take the country, whatever... Do what you want. Oh, and something. Spain could never destroy my country in a year or in an hundrend years. If you want to be realistic in History, study the people, not the calculations. MMauritti (talk) 22:31, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

OK sorry I admit I'm a bit mean right now it's just... When I arrived at this wiki, I was excited... There was an endless list of scenarios in which History could have unfolded quite easily. In the past, my country was great. We were an empire. We brought new worlds to the world. Now we are a s***hole basically governed by the Germans and I was just trying to see if it had a chance in here. You know what I saw? Loads of American and British guys that just wanted to see their countries dominate the world. You can't stand other guys trying to spoil your fun. I had good ideas. You can't say I hadn't. I gave my best. Did I overstreched? Yes I did. But look at ALL timelines in this damn wiki. There is always something that was too much. I just tried to give us, the ones who don't live in a superpower, a chance. I guess it doesn't work. I don't expect you to understand. PS - If you ever get to be a world leader, take my advice - never invade the Portuguese. We may seem weak and coward but if you mess with us you won't know what hit you. Really. Ask Spain. The most they did to govern us since our indepedence in 1143 was from 1580-1640. I don't know what they teach you in Texas, but those were bad times to be a Spaniard in Portugal. As soon as possible, we showed them what we were. That's all I have to say. You call us a minor power I say come here and let's settle this like man. Believe me, even the Romans had to use our treason to conquer us. Just saying.

Anyway that was a bit over-nationalist. I'm just saying that I was trying something different. A spicing on the thousands of pages in this wiki. I guess you didn't like it. And another thing, don't call yourself a althistory veteran. It sounds a bit... overdramatic. Just a comment, never mind. Hope you have fun! :) - MMauritti (talk) 22:47, August 26, 2014 (UTC) - Ok, that sounded mean. It wasn't supposed to.

Feud i would like to have your opinion regarding the invasion of the Tunisia from the ottoman empire as spain, recently due to certain differences of view of something regarding the ottoman structure we've come to fairly different results I would like to get your review on which algo when possible. Thanks in advance. Sine dei gloriem &#34;Ex Initio Terrae&#34; (talk) 15:21, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

He was OK on the Swahili coast and probably in Muscat. Portugal should have been attacked over 2 rounds, each round for 50% of the nation.Whipsnade (talk) 19:29, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Are you here bro I'd really like your help regarding the issue with rimp over Tunisia's war. Sine dei gloriem &#34;Ex Initio Terrae&#34; (talk) 16:54, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yeh, you can replace the algo with yours.Whipsnade (talk) 19:29, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

I am also still a bit unwell and will not return to the game.Whipsnade (talk) 19:29, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Governor of Malta
My ruler has a bunch of kids who I am trying to place into positions across Europe, and noticing some of the OTL choices one of my ruler's kids ended up in Malta. I was wondering if Wenceslaus von Habsburg could be made governor of Malta. The islands would still remain a vassal and part of whatever structure you have them. I just mean he could be the regional guy in charge, answering to your ruler. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 12:50, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Becoming
"Becoming" has only ONE M.

Bil

EoGuy (talk) 17:30, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Treaty
Hold on, as I said I'm not taking as much as I could. I won 7000 pixels but am only taking 1000 or so. The only thing I added to the Americas was him releasing a native tribe and consolidating rule over a colony, which if anything would make him less likely to collapse. Mscoree (talk) 12:09, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

1635 Map
You added back the expansion in South America, but you deleted everything else from the map (Europe, North America, Asia, etc) haha. Later today I will upload the actual map with both, and will just copy your new edits to it. Sorry about that, Mscoree (talk) 14:10, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

MGW ban
I banned Kingtrevor for a day from the MGW. just an FYI  <font color="#191970">I am on the edge...   The EdgeofNight ╚╩o.o╩╝

PMIII Bavaria, 1640 Map
Hi,

Here's a map a drew up for my 5% gains in the Hamburg war. The previous map was for 7%, so I got rid of Madgeburg for the new map and added some pixels in the north to make up for said Madgeburg loss.

Cookiedamage (talk) 21:17, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Saxony and Thuringia should be united as well. I'll upload a newer version right now.

Croatia has 100k troops total, Western Hungary has 20/20 development will the czardom itself has 18/18 due to the war being recent. That's all the info you'll need from me. <font color="#50E0F0">Sky <font color="#50FF60">Green <font color="A00000">24 (Party,quotes) 16:50, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

chat?
available to jump on chat real quick?

Cookiedamage (talk) 20:01, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

ok i started up the seocnd invasion
i need your support as requested ill cover a majority of the expenses but i need help in ending this civil war

With Blood and Iron (talk) 20:13, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

KO'd
Sorry it's been a while, this is the first time I've been able to get on the wiki in a few days. My computer is officially out of commision, maybe permenantly. I'm on a back-up right now, but it's running Windows XP and it's drastically impractical. I don't know when I'll be able to post regularly again, but until I can, I officialy give you control of my nation (which you did have de facto control, but this is now de jure as well). Sorry, will try and be back soon! Cour *talk* 01:14, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'd say maybe more around 1904. AP (talk) 20:03, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Greetings Hispania from the new King of the Cherokee
Hi Fuedal, nice to speak to you again.

I've joined PM3 as the Cherokee nation so I figure we better establish relations with each other. Basically I don't want the land your nation currently holds near mine, and in fact I want your colony to grow further in land to maybe the size of North Carolina, and some. Dividing the interior of the USA south is basically the purpose of my nation and I aim to have it destroyed in about 100 years, and the area divided between you, Rome and France.

WHat say you?

<font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 04:03, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Oh right then, guess the map needs fixing haha. Thanks for letting me know, I'll go speak to him then :D <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 04:17, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Sepoy/Sepoya
I probably should give up changing this article anyway because someone keeps undoing ALL my changes.

Bil

EoGuy (talk) 06:43, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Man
Gonna have to take a full Wiki Break until December 8th. Gonna have to Quit Marne. Sorry

PS:Don't let my nation get taken pls

Pittsburg
So, you know that newbie, Pitt? Well, I met him on chat. I distrust newbies after the whole thing with Omni. But when I mentioned that I was from Michigan, he began making Detroit jokes. Among them:

Detroiter: I am going to rape you cause the lions lost.

I lost my shit. I find it really offensive when someone makes rude jokes about my home state. So please, do something. That rape joke was wrong. Spartian300 (talk) 17:50, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Industrialization Map
Sorry for the delay. Here is a draft of the map. If there are problems on it, feel free to edit accordingly.

Regards,

Crim de la Crème 05:06, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Couldn't resist. Cour *talk* 22:08, December 14, 2014 (UTC)



I'm away till after Christmas. I will ask sky to keep posting till I return. Probably not till the 27/28FOR THE GLORY OF THE PARTY! 03:28, December 22, 2014 (UTC)