Talk:Axis vs Allies: Revolutions (Map Game)

France

 * Location: 2
 * Tactical Advantage: 1 - 3 = -2
 * Strength: 9 (+BC)= 13
 * Motive: 5
 * Chance: 8
 * 12:07
 * 1*2*0*7 = 14
 * 14/78 = 0.179487179
 * 0.179487179*3.14 = 563589742.09
 * Total: 26

Egypt

 * Location: 5
 * Tactical Advantage: 5
 * Strength: 0
 * Motive: 10
 * Chance: 4
 * Total: 24

Result

 * Stalemate between French and Egyptian forces ensures.

Discussion

 * I believe I did right. I also didn't include France's Big Cheese Power, due to being invaded. Correct me if I'm wrong. Enclavehunter (talk) 14:28, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * You should add it in. However, I just made a new rule that if you are invading from far away (+3 or less), then you need at least a +5 advantage to take any land. Ideas? Flag_of_South_Korea.png PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:35, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Archive
First archive :) PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 20:23, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

For

 * Korea
 * America
 * Ianian58 (talk) 22:34, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Against

 * Siam (even if UN is created, the Siamese have no interest in joining it)
 * Japan we propose a reformed League of Nations and that peace keeping be carried out by each independent alliance system.
 * Soviet Union (We have no interest in another organization)

Discussion
@Japan: That's what the new UN is. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:37, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Implausibilty
Hey guys. I've seen a few bits of pieces that I conisder implausible. First, the Italians troops and equipment numbers. I don't know how Italy could muster that number of bombers and aircraft, unless they were drafted from Libya. Second, the Facists France. I don't think the French people would allow for their government to become fascist, espically after two fascit nations attacked them. Third, the United States and its "war" against the Axis. I don't understand why the United States attacked the Soviet Union for no reason. The Reds did nothing to the United States, and the United States is still in isolation, and the only reason they went to war in OTL was the Attack on Pearl Harbor, which never occured. Fourth, why would the Americans waste soldiers and their fleet invading eastern Siberia, espically with nothing there except natives and deadly winters. There's a few others, but these are the main things I would like to talk about. Enclavehunter (talk) 01:58, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

All of the non-USA stuff is true. Now I'll talk about the US stuff.

A: America got into this because its economy and trade interests are way too much at risk.

B: Speak for yourself. You're just defending your own nation. When I say Eastern Siberia, per se it is more like Soviet Manchuria and the like. Vladivostok-ish and norht of that. Then if can get Japan in on this and convince Hitler to come to peace talkk, my efforts will bear fruit.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:02, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Still. We didn't do nothing to the United States, and here you are coming on our doorstep attacking the Soviet Union with no casus beli or however you say it. In OTL, if every nation went to war because their economic and trade interests were threaten, the world would be a warzone each and every day. Enclavehunter (talk) 02:06, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

No. I attacked your allies. So then, you will attack me. I have to think ahead and prevent that, so I have to invade you. Simple logical reasoning. AKA chain of events.

And btw: with France on the deathbed and Britain guarding the door, I gotta step in. Anywho, I ahve business to discuss with Hitler. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:13, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

United States

 * Location: 2
 * Tactical Advantage: 1
 * Strength: 3 + 3 + (BC) = 9
 * Motive: 3
 * Chance: 3
 * 00:36
 * 0*0*3*6 = 18
 * 18/6803 = 0.00264589151
 * 0.00264589151*3.14 = 0.0083080993414
 * Total: 15

Soviet Union

 * Location: 5
 * Tactical Advantage: 2
 * Strength: Soviet Union (L): 4
 * Motive: 10
 * Chance: 5
 * 00:36
 * 0*0*3*6 = 18
 * 18/5,212 = 0.03448275862
 * 0.03448275862*3.14 = 0.108275862
 * Total: 26

Result

 * Crushing Soviet victory, American forces repealed from eastern Russia.

Discussion

 * Another attempt for an algorithm. I didn't know what to put for my UTC Time, so I put the time Scraw (United States) declared war on the Axis and Soviet Union. I did this, because I assume ounce nation declares war, then the defending nation is at war with the attacker. Pita, Correct if I'm wrong. Enclavehunter (talk) 05:08, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

You're pretty much right, and it should be with heavy casualties as well. IMO, we should retcon the last two turns (France suddenly converts to Axis, USA invades USSR), but retcons do kill games... PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 22:00, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

i think a retcon would be good, despite what it will do to the game or atleast make an event that creates a widespread resistence movement in france along with resistence movements throughout the occupied regions (including occupied china) that way we can finally make a guerilla warfare algorithm (i really want one XD) Nkbeeching