Talk:Axis vs Allies Revised (Map Game)

Okay, so the way to make a poll (which I think is what you mean with the "Voting chart thing", would be this:

Which is a lie?

1. Cheese

2.Pie

3. Cake

This would turn, with wiki format, into:

Which is a lie?

1. Cheese

2.Pie

3. Cake

Fed (talk) 21:25, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I just wrote that a while ago when I was still wet behind the ears in this Wiki. I know how to do that now. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:34, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind then, lol. Fed (talk) 21:36, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Map
Fed, could you fix the map? I can’t access MS Paint right now, so. . . PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:36, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I did it. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 00:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The map is worng, Germany and Poland divvied up Czechoslovakia, so it doesn't exist.

Maps wrong again. Russia should have all of Sakhalin Island. Azecreth 19:13, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

When do we start?
When do we start the game?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for starting the game right now, but nobody said when the game could start and we needed to start before all the players abandoned because it was taking too long for start.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 09:20, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Espionage
I really think we need to fgure out how this is ging to work in the game, because I know that at least for Soviet Russia, their espionage apparatus was very important in the war, and afterwards, besides the Soviet infiltration of the American atomic program. Azecreth 18:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. But just for clarity, what are the "Trucial States"? PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 20:02, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Trucial States. I did talk to him and ask him if he could be something more important, but he didn't respond. Azecreth 20:27, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Its the UAE Scandinator 08:13, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Maps
I'll create maps at the end of every five years, starting at 1945. Sorry if I can't do it more often, but with school and everything… Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 20:57, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Start
The game has started. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 00:26, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hello, if I miss a turn, do I still only post in the new year that's started or can I also post in the previous year that i missed? 9 もりや すわこ 08:34, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

If it's because they totally skipped over a half year or year whenyou weren't on,then I would. Actually, I propose a new rule that we can't move onto the next half-year untilall the majors, USA, USSR, UK, Germany, France, Italy, and Japan have all posted Azecreth 11:30, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * So therefore I can also post under the year 1935 since I seemed to have missed that year if its okay (i was not here at the time)? 9 もりや すわこ 11:33, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think so, yes. Azecreth 11:40, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I made the turn for 1935 as well. Let me know if any one objects to this and if there are, I'll remove my post from 1935 then. 9 もりや すわこ 11:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello. I never played a map game before, but I was wondering if I could join this game. Draycos 03:04, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Map 1935
Since no real territorial changes took place up to 1935, I am not going to make a map. However, this is a warning to User:Laptop Zombie. You are permitted only one nation. Further infractions will result in removal from the game. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 19:03, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I am so happy that you started the map game again. By the way, could I be India? :D Imperium Guy 21:29, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can. You just have to declare independence from the UK if you do. 9 もりや すわこ 21:42, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

2 Questions

I have 2 questions. 1. How do I begin? Do I just edit the list of nations to include mine or do I have to get a mod to do it?

2. Is there any free nation any of you would recommend as such? Any big nation that needs someone controlling it?

Australia, Agentina, Saudi Arabia, Algeria (French colony), Canada, Egypt, Spain, Chile, Mexico and Brazil are avalible.Oxfordshire 1972 08:24, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

You've GOT to change Russia or China's color. They look too similar. CrimsonAssassin 14:33, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Russia MUST be red. No other color is permissible!.Azecreth 14:36, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why would the USSR need to be red? But even if we do colour it red it would look to similar to the British Empire. ChrisL123 14:57, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it's the communist in me speaking. Red is the color of cdommunism, so the bringer of the proletarian revolution must be red. Although, we could always make the British Empire a more pinkish color, although that may be hard to see. It's really up to Kenny, who is the map maker.Azecreth 15:06, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I did.Oxfordshire 1972 14:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, for the first few countries I picked colors from the country's flags, meaning Britain or the US would have to be red, but I gave that up after awhile. Oxford, please do not upload a new file. It's extremely inconvenient, upload over the old file if you have to. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 16:03, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Baltic Conflict
Ok guys, its getting crazy. I propose we roll back the game to before Laptop Zombie invaded me, since that should never have happened in the first place. Lets have a vote of moderators Roll back the game to before the Baltic invasion of Russia? 1.Yes 2.No --Azecreth 16:42, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry dont count one vote for yes I dindnt read what azcareth wrote i ust saw the poll and jumped in...sorryLxCaucassus 18:03, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, the Baltic war was turning in to an unreal slaugter like WW1 and images of the Somme, Ypres, ect are fresh in the then peopl's mindes.Oxfordshire 1972 19:09, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't vote since I haven't been approved for mod but this war's been getting way out of hand. If we keep this up it'll turn into an alternate WW2 or something, with the UK being on the "Axis". ChrisL123 19:15, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Non Baltic posts are fine. The Canadian volentears and Venesualan blokade runners in Spain are ok. Thiland and Hindustan are ok to. Just junk the Baltic posts.Oxfordshire 1972 19:30, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that it is difinitive and all approved mods have voted 3-2 for yes to revert it can it be done?LxCaucassus 19:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * 1937 was wriiten by a war waky.86.29.75.205 19:39, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * By the decidision of the admins, all events subsequent to 1935 have been retconned, as well as the Baltic invasion in that year. Let's learn something from this, people. Azecreth 19:41, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * It wurra a bit crazy and daft. 213.232.79.131 08:24, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Changing countries
Is it possible for me to change from Canada to France and the French Empire? This is my second map game and I'm not sure if that's allowed or not. ChrisL123 20:13, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's ok. Just don't cobntrol Canada after you switchAzecreth 20:25, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Turns
Something's seriously wrong with the turns. People are posting twice a turn! I tried to change and rollback it and clean it up, but I really can't. So from now on, post once per day. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 20:16, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * That not only the problem. There were also some people who posted other peoples turns as well (due to a reset vote). And an IP "82.27.18.57" also re-posted my turn (and some other people turns) that was taken off due to a reset. I think that some should watch the edit history to see what's going on so if there are problems, the edit history can be checked to see what happened...... 9 もりや すわこ 20:23, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Could Rebelsoldier be back, you guys said he just kept making accounts, maybe hes skipping the account so its harder to track him. Its just a thought,
 * DeanSims 20:46, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Cuban Civil War
Just part of my nation's history. It'll be resolved shortly. BTW: This is my second nation that I'm throwing into civil war on this wiki. lol! CrimsonAssassin 23:49, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Nations
Can I take control of the Republic of Ireland ? The player controlling has made no postsWhitesight 00:27, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

If he hasn't posted by Wednesday, it'd be fine with me. He might be one of those users who doesn't sign in often and just edits anonymously. CrimsonAssassin 00:32, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thank you74.65.225.2 02:39, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Whitesight, welcome to the game. CrimsonAssassin 20:36, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Recent UK thing
I'm not a mod so I can't make an implausibility vote, but this UK taking over the Netherlands thing is ridiculous. There's no reason at all for the UK to attack and take over the Netherlands and her colonies. The residents, the crown, no one would stand for this. The UK and the Netherlands were allies,  in WWII. I request a mod make a vote to retcon this whole incident. ChrisL123 20:21, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

The UK has been very implausible recently, really. Fed (talk) 21:04, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

It also claimed to take ALL of Hispaniola and part of East Cuba in half a year. As a mod, I vote to retcon that too. CrimsonAssassin 21:58, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:02, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Mod powers, ACTIVATE! CrimsonAssassin 22:03, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

All right, lets put it to a moderator vote. Revert the UK's conquests of the Netherlands, Hispaniola, and East Cuba? 1.Yes 2.No

We have a majority of the moderators voting for revert. So shall it be. While I'm at it, I'd like to ask if we could get some decision about Chris and Bobalugee being mods. Azecreth 02:31, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know Chris well enough to support or decline his nomination. Bobalugee, however, I support. CrimsonAssassin 02:58, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I vote to retcon the part conquest of Saudi Arabia. Why attack Saudi and 50% conquered 1/2 a year! The desert would slow things down badly and Arabs are brave fighters, who would not allow ANYONE to occupied Mecca unless they were Islamic (in this game Turkey and the Trucial States are the only Islamic nations with a User). Hispaniola and East Cuba are OK, but were to easily won over. Resistance fighters would have occurred. No one would allow the UK’s conquest on the Netherlands. As a British citizen I know the Netherlands, Belgium and UK were close allies in the World Wars and the Cold War.. Oxfordshire 1972 09:13, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

All right, lets put it to a moderator vote. Revert the UK's conquests of northern Saudi Arabia? 1.Yes 2.No

All right. With a majority, the invasion of Saudi Arabi is retocnned as well. Azecreth 13:40, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Rebelsoldier
Oh my, could he be BACK???? Dean, who is playing as GB, is displaying HUGE implausibility. Could he be REB???? PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:19, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

He is not 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% as implausible america reb. If he was even 1/10 as bad 1/2 the universe whould be GB and the CSA whould exist (after he destroyd the americans with a massive nuclear stike, after discovering nukes in 1936, and after he recruited Optimus Prime). Bobalugee1940 21:24, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, perhaps he learned after he got banned. . . But anyhow, I’m convinced you’re right. If it were him, he’d probably have paid The Fallen to destroy New York and sent an astronaut to Alpha Centauri. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:25, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Rebel messaged me on Future History, claiming he wasn't as bad and he was tired of being banned. Of course, he immediately made a map game called Second American Civil War. CrimsonAssassin 22:01, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I know he was implausable from what you guys told me, but that doesnt mean that Im him. If you guys dont believe me, I herby retire my control of Great Britain.

DeanSims 14:28, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I believe you. You just need to promise no more implausibility. CrimsonAssassin 14:57, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Anschluss
It is plausible to annex Austria at this point, as happened in OTL?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 15:22, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. remember, the authoritarian elements of the Austrian government lost the Civil War. I suppose you coud think up some sort of excuse for occupation though. Azecreth 15:29, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

The Name is here
World War II is finally drawing near. The Axis and Allies are being drawn up. Be ready to fight. Germany might be allied while France and Soviet Union might be the Axis or visa versa. The name of the game is here. Imperium Guy 20:55, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Mapmaking
DK is making maps every 5 years, but that is not enough. That is 10 turns, and by that time, anything could have happened. So I propose that Oxfordshire and Dean become "apprentice" mapmakers under DK. If they make mistakes, you have authority over them. But here is how it would work: Oxford would make a map once every 3 turns, then after another 3 turns, it would be Dean, then in another 3 turns, DK. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 23:10, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Do people think Tibet is in China 1. Yes 2. No

Imperium Guy 21:46, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Tibet wasnt incorporated into china untill the communist revolution of 1949...in ten years time...70.81.81.33 04:38, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Are we talking about OTL or the ATL Tibet?Oxfordshire 1972 08:13, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

ATL. Imperium Guy 09:31, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

It was cinqured by China in the 1937 ATL year, it's in the text.Oxfordshire 1972#
 * China seeks to purchase Burma from Britain using funds seized from the remnants of the Communist Party. China having finished modernising its military demonstrates its effectiveness by reconquering Tibet over the year. China moves its capital to a more central Wuhan. Chinese troops offer to help the Vietnamese in return for Laos and Cambodia.

But it is always shown independent. This is to finalize that all maps will have tibet independent on a part of China. Imperium Guy 11:39, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Why??? I conquered it. It should be mine. Tibet has also been a part of China during the entire Qing dynasty... Also Britain just conquered the middle east and those territories were added straight away... Plus your not even a mod you dont have the power to stop tibet being mine. Scandinator 11:44, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't trying to do that. All I wanted to do was that people would add Tibet to China and I am definately NOT trying from you having Tibet. It is just so that people add tibet to China, that is all. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 16:22, September 2, 2011 (UTC).

Tibet is Chinese. But if Hindustan wishes parts of the Britsh Middle East will be given to it.

DeanSims 16:45, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

What in the world? There's no way that the KMT would be rich enough in 1930s to buy another country (I don't think the CPC war chest has that much funding). Then again, this is ATL China, but still. Also, I think in this game, Tibet should be independent at this time, since the region is controlled by warlords. Revisionist 19:57, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

He ended the Civil War, funneled money into the army, and invaded the Tibetan nation. It's completely plausible. Fed (talk) 19:59, September 3, 2011 (UTC)