User talk:Scrawland Scribblescratch



Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3

Triple Entente vs. Central Powers
Hey, I want to join, but there very few countries to choose from. Are there any countries that have gone inactive that I could fill in for or do I have to choose from the list? CourageousLife 20:51, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

I guess I'll take canada. Now do I have to ask anybody or can I just delete this person's signature and replace it with my own? CourageousLife 21:22, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering what is different about Canada since it's part of the British Empire. Do I not have full autonomy? CourageousLife 21:32, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

When will newfoundland ever be able to revolt or be released from Britain. Sasafred12 22:13, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I was just wondering:( Sasafred12 22:16, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Battle for Earth(Reloaded)
Also, this galactic map will take forever. I mean some of these people are never online Sasafred12 22:20, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

So hows it been going Scraw Sasafred12 22:33, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re:TEvsCP
I think we should ban him the game. We've given him several warnings, brought him up on the talk page, crossed out so much of his turns, argued with him non-stop, and he says he'd change (I think...) but it's been the same thing over and over again. Frankly, I think he might cause the collapse of this game. But we might have to put a vote for the whole game crew to decide (or just the other mods, whatever.) ChrisL123 22:36, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Scraw, Do you know why they didn't call The Napoleonic wars a world war. Sasafred12 05:45, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I always kind of joked that the world wars were not world wars because not all countries went to war :D

VLR
'''I hate to ask again but i need you to post in VLR! It's already 1825!AP 16:05, July 1, 2012 (UTC)'''

Youtube
Should be fine. Lordganon 21:53, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bulgarian. Roughly means "Unwashed Masses." Lordganon 22:11, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Greater Americas Reloaded
Are you still interested in reloading the game or do you just want to drop it? CourageousLife 02:33, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Unknown Landmass
What type of mod? :) Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 03:58, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Then here's some work for you: update the map ;D Doctor261 ''' (Talk to me!) 04:28, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

PM
Hello.

As you may know, Finland is suffering some Swedish rebellion. Now recently I attempted to make a vassal out of some of the land.

But if the rebellions still continues by mod event this year (1948), I will give you some more of Swedish land. However, I would still want to retrain a slice of Sweden (especially Stockholm) as per my revenge. Here's the map:

Is that okay with you?

Oh and if Sweden manages to break away by a mod event this year, be warned about the Sovereignty Defence League; they do their best to defend most industrialised well nations; and it will be like the Norway issue. I'm just trying to prevent a new Sweden from being formed again. -Kogasa 04:22, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Micronationalism exists in this game and in real life, if you want ASB giant empires lasting until the modern day, go to an ASB map game. It was stated numerous times on the talk page for months prior to the current break-ups that such a thing would occur. Italy isn't breaking up because it is rather homogenous, every region is dominated by ethnic Italians who are Christian and speak Italian. All Italian colonies have declared their independence already, I have nothing to break away from them. So you can stop spreading lies that I am some biased moderator who wants to break up every nation but my own. LurkerLordB (Talk) 04:44, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Well, making the Suwēden into a Finnish Vassal State helped. Though I won't trust them to last long.

Anyway, if they break away (or if I find out that Republic of Suwēden became independent, when I specifically stated that they are a Finnish Vassal State), I will have all my former colonies will help, and I'll try to get Bhārat and Nippon, and all their vassals, puppets and former colonies to help (except for Republic of Wonderlaand, as they are automatically against us).

And, Finland would be interested in an alliance. -Kogasa 04:57, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

And not every micronationalist movement is going to succeed in this game. Only large minorities with significant differences. But some will.

On the subject of your nation, Sweden and Denmark aren't going to break apart because they are practically the same culture now. In fact, Norway only broke away because the Swedish Empire that Denmark had just seized control of was collapsing, not because of significant cultural differences. LurkerLordB (Talk) 05:06, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Do you want to play my Tribal Sunset (Map Game) Sasafred12 05:59, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

The End of Unknown Landmass
Look at how many people posted their turns in 6500 BC. Now look how many did in 6400 BC, and look how many did in 6300 BC. Sorry. It's useless. Doctor261 ''' (Talk to me!) 17:01, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'll give it a week and see if it goes well. And yeah, feel free to fix up the template. I was never good at it. I mean, look at my Wasteland template xD Isn't it awesome? XDDDDDDD Doctor261 ''' (Talk to me!) 17:10, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I give up. I have decided that I will give you all the land that I made to form the Republic of Sweden, to you. Even Stockholm.

It's becoming difficult to handle no matter how hard I try.

Also, if something happens to you, don't worry, I will have Finland and Finland's former colonies and Finnish vassals back Denmark up, and is ready to support you on your side. :] -Kogasa 17:52, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Also, Wales proposes that a Peaceful Sweden to be established. Though I'm not too sure how it's going to work. What do you think? -Kogasa 18:08, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I declined Bharat's offer. Also, Finland and Russia are on good terms, and I don't want to break it ever again. I'm just going to have Finland do whatever they can to maintain peace and stability instead. -Kogasa 19:05, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

new Axis Vs allies
interested in starting up a new axis vs allies? this reloaded is about to finish and it was a good run albiet a bit to far in the final years without the major powers playing.

scraw, please just take Texas and Oregon, I cant give up that much land. -Dean DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 00:40, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

its so fing unfair, you knwo what Aztlan surredners and doe swhatever America fucking wants. Aztaln dissolves it self and asks for its reannexation by Spain. -Dean DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 00:47, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

when PM II comes around I suggest an alliance between Bavaria and Brandenvurg. Both our nations are German and we are geographicly close to one another, not to mention cultrually. It will help the both of us gain strength and influence over the German StatesAndr3w777 04:06, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

No offense taken. I would like to see the map. Also will member states allowed to conduct its own affairs like treaties, war, internal politics or will all that have to go through the HRE Council?Andr3w777 04:43, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

okay, can you elaborate on what territories each land is supposed to get? The map shows the final German Union, but how would each state be taken down?Andr3w777 04:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

You may want to watch out as now Wonderlaand is going after Denmark now. They are now even funding Swedish independence organisations and are focusing on the Swedish separatist political parties. -Kogasa 23:53, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Lithuania PM2
Would you like to make an alliance in PM2 when it opens? I'll be playing as Poland and Lithuania. Making an alliance will make the encirclement of Teutonic Knights easier. Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 05:17, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Question.
'''Hey Scraw. How do you make that cool introductory column you have on your profile? I tried to make one ,but failed. I noticed that my profile is erm below-par haha i haven't edited it since i joined ha. Anyways, let me know.AP (talk) 16:52, July 4, 2012 (UTC)'''

Hello. You haven't posted in Avaro for a while, and I noticed you were the player for New Zealand. I am the Australian player, and I have been expanding into the Pacific islands, taking Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, the Solomons etc. I want a union with New Zealand...so if you aren't planning on returning to the game... And don't mind the union...could you just leave a note on the game page saying you are okay with it? Thanks, Callumthered (talk) 11:59, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Unknown Landmass
We need you back at UL. Everyone is waiting for your turn to update the map of your nation.  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 18:47, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Can you also play in Greater Europe? This might get more interesting as the time goes. We just need more players.  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 19:01, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

i would be willing to join if you want, if so message my talkpage Axyljohnson 20:38 July 5 UTC

Avaro Australasia
Sure, go for it. I'll just do this turn though, to get things rolling. Thanks again. Callumthered (talk) 22:50, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Question
and how do you do thhat? Can you show me please?

what do you mean, what happened?Andr3w777 (talk) 02:49, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

why does my page say file with broken links? what happened?Andr3w777 (talk) 02:52, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

I did what you said and it came out all weird and incomplete.AP (talk) 04:35, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

'''Thanks that would make things easier and thanks for taking the time to do that. The only thing is that i gotta head out(its like 7 am here). Can we do it tomorrow? For you anyway it'll be super late here haha. Thanks again, let me know.AP (talk) 04:48, July 7, 2012 (UTC)'''

SOCr
Thanks for telling me- might not have noticed.

You could have done it yourself, though. Only mods can play the USSR, so that is against the rules.

By the way, we need someone to play USSR.

Guns (talk) 18:14, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

dont care. I care nothing for your opinion (User talk:DeanSims) 19:40, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

and niether can you. Whas the deal about a swearword, everyone swears at least once a day. I mean, what the heck deos it amtter, i didnt call you anything. I said, and im not saying this to you in anyway, im only quoting "Aztaln does whatever you f*&^%%^% wants" I didnt say you were anything f'ing, but then i get in trouble. its stupid. I care nothing for your opinion (User talk:DeanSims) 19:52, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

007 in PM
how about successful Cornish actor Sean Penn as Ian Fleming in the 007 Series?Andr3w777 (talk) 20:55, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

for some reason the wiki won't let me post pictures anymore. I have tried two different browsers and nothing is working. Can you add some 007 logos to my newly created 007 page?

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Ian_Fleming_as_007_series_%28Principia_Moderni%29

Andr3w777 (talk) 21:04, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

I needed to give a colony independence so I choose Wonderlaand. They're pro-Sweden, so they're trying to free Sweden from Danish rule. I said that, because all these films being released show Sweden as evil and wanting to take over the world, when in a matter of fact they saved the world from Mesheryakovist domination. As for Asia vs Europe, I don't really see that being much of a war, more of a battle for supremacy better fought via inventions and businesses. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 11:31, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

because otherwise I'd do nothing else with it. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 16:41, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

The column thing
Ok, i've sorted all the stuff out.

name: AP

Hometown: San Diego, California

Nationality: French(born there, raised in Cali)

Ethnicity: 50% Peruvian 50% French

Political views: Democrat

Interests: Traveling, reading, writing, going to school(haha sarcasm), law, US government, history(real and alt), Jiu jitsu, karate

AltHistory likes+historical knowledge: European history, south american independence onward, Imperialism Era, etc

Random Fact: I'm excellent with geography/history, i pride myself in it. And that's why i chair my school's academic team in the "History and Geography" section. Going into my junior year, we are one of the top scoring teams in the county.

Languages:

English(fluent)

French(fluent)

Spanish(fluent)

Brazilian Portuguese(fluent)

Italian(intermediate/still learning)

German(very,very basic)

I hope to learn Russian soon:D. I learned Spanish from my mom and French from my dad. English i learned here in the US. Portuguese i learned from my aunt(by marriage) and her family whom are from Brazil. Italian i'm learning in school and German well i'm taking an online course and its getting there... Someday.

Thanks Scraw, take your time with this one, no rush.AP (talk) 01:11, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

imperialism (map game)
come on scraw lets revive the game its kinda collapsing we need to revitalize it.

Wunderlaand
If they are really pouring billions into propaganda, their government'll fall on its own, lol. I'll hit them with a moderator event next turn about how the constant propaganda is causing economic and social problems in their nation, and if they continue there will be a revolution in their nation. LurkerLordB (Talk) 18:09, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Deleted Map Games
We changed the rule to 15 turns a while ago, I thought I updated it. In any case, States of America 5 only had 12 turns, no where near "well past 15" LurkerLordB (Talk) 18:25, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Wonderlaand is becoming a real problem, that will need to be dealt with soon. I will contact Russia with the computer proposal. This is just a randm question. Is it possible to create a sort of "superstate" between Wales, Finland, Denmark and Russia. Not like how the USA is doing with Musica, but more of an Economic and Military alliance. Each nation is its own, but are a member of the Alliance(i guess sort of EU/Warsaw Pact kind of thing maybe.) I don't plan on offically announcing such a thing. I just wanted to know about its viability. The infrastructure, miltary, and technology of Wales, Denmark and Russia provide the basis for a solid "Triple Alliance/Entente" that could be used as a safegaurd against attacks from other nations or a spring board for late game aquisitions. Once again just a loose thought I was having. Cheers Andr3w777 (talk) 21:46, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

its an interesting idea. How is the family going to be destroyed? Is it sort of like Wales heir issue where the entire family was killed during the Civil War? Also can you present this idea to Russia- See what he thinks. A nation of this size could begin a massive annexation of Europe and could compete with The Federation of the Americas Superblock and the Asian Council nations.Andr3w777 (talk) 22:21, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Zeig Hiel!! This could work i suppose. With Welsh industrial might, colonies and technological advancements. Denmark's past with great strides in weaponization, and Russia- The largest nation on Earth. Yes it could be done. Bit We must somehow get Russia on board otherwise it won't work. How will we convince him?(Also since i started playing 1910 ish- what made Wales backwater. I know next to nothing about the Pre 1900's era of Wales. From what i gathered from Lurk, I have made quite the turn around as a nation.)Andr3w777 (talk) 22:32, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Afraid I only have one now- I reoraganize Nouvell-Champagne and Nouvell-Patagonie into one larger colony called New Wales. I had planed on having them join Wales proper as a client state. I noticed France hasn't been on in awhile and they have already lost Castile-its in chaos and may soon lose Flanders. Perhaps we could sieze these nations somehow, then I can give you some land.Andr3w777 (talk) 22:44, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yes I suppose I can give you the former Nouvelle-Champagne. You know its interesting about King Haarkon is he is now married to the Queen of all Wales. This means all three nations would not only be in dynastic Union, nobody could say our organization is impossible. The mods can't hit us too hard with royalty on all sides of the Union.Andr3w777 (talk) 23:19, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Heard anything yet? Also It has come to my attention that we may not be able to make a super country per se but we could develop the EU on steriods. Also how do you do the table list thing on the profile page, mine is cluttered and disorganised. Also how do you ass the "talk to me option next to my signature?Andr3w777 (talk) 02:24, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

This is what I told Lx "All of our nations have members that are in line for each others throne. Haarkon is stilll Russian Royalty as much as he is Danish or Welsh. He is leary of joining the Russian Commonwealth in part because of the name, Russian, it would make both our nations look like Russian Vassals versus free nations entering into a legalistic Union. The Commonwealth is more or less the same as what we're proposing, just with a different(and still Russian) ruler, and a different name for it. Each nation isn't loing anything it hasn't already gained. We just become an EU style confederation with the same Royal families. Thing of the OTL Holy Roman Empire. It was a bunch of different nations whom had the same ruler. All nations were still automonous, they just had the same ruler. That is what we are proposing, a joint nation that shall be the envy of the world. All of our nations have unique talents that are massive when combined. If our nations all merge for the lack of a better word. Then we will have Europe eating out of our palm and can compete against the massive Veitnamese and Nipponese Empires. This is the only way Europe will remain the seat of Global power." hopefully that will help.Andr3w777 (talk) 18:18, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Russia(PM)
the one problem wiht your plan is that by romanov law, the Emperor must be Russian Orthodox to be eligible for the throne(although this does not exclude them from the line of succesion, they just need to become orthodox or forfeit their position to the throne, so it goes to the next in line)-Lx (leave me a message) 20:17, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

War! Mwuahahahaha! Best of luck ;) VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:09, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

I have a lot of countries and I'm trying to do different things with each ones. The rest of my countries will condemn these actions, but will probably be against just wiping the islands out as not everyone in Wonderlaand is guilty.

General Neilssen leads only a small extremist party in Wonderlaand so what they did isn't what most of the country believes in, Neilssen's plan was to provoke Denmark into attacking to make the rest of Wonderlaand fight against Denmark too. Wonderlaand is anti-Danish but not to the extent of the ultra-nationalists like Neilssen. I'm currently trying to decide whether Wonderlaand will fight back or condemn the actions of the ultra-nationalist.

Also the attack was done by undercover agents who sneaked in, besides anyway you've already reacted to the attack so its been confirmed as happening. Are you saying nearly all the Dane's have died in this attack btw? If millions have died and the country has been practically wiped out, then I guess the rest of Wonderlaand would surrender and condemn Neilssen. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:39, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wonderlaand is in the South Pacific spread across Fiji and Vanantu and the other lightly coloured pink islands near by it. So I doubt you'll be able to hit it with your ICBMs from Europe.

Anyway do an algorithm if you're starting a war, depending on the result of the algorithm, we can decide how to carry this out. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:44, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

What the heck just happened? Wales is now at war and hundreds of Welsh citizens have died. The Princess is dead now! We have mobilised all of our forces and have ICBM's targeting Wonderlaand. What will this do to our Pan Europa Plan?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:57, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

If it helps. The Welsh General Assembly has authorized extreme(nuclear) force. We will nuke them. They have destroyed an ally, wounded two Royal Families, and killed half of Gerth Ceyern. 'THEY WILL PAY. I WILL RAIN DESTRUCTION FROM THE HEAVENS!!!!!!!!!!Andr3w777 (talk) 23:37, July 10, 2012 (UTC)'

I posted for Wonderlaand now at the end of 1957 turn (I wanted to see how the algorithm worked out and how others reacted to it before posting Wonderlaand's "rebuttal".) Have a look at it, and tell me what you think. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:51, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

BFE reloaded
Is it dead, or are you still working on it? The Royal Guns (talk) 06:14, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

I still kinda wanna play, but...CourageousLife (talk) 00:50, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

No, he's working on the map. At least he said so on my talkpage.

The Royal Guns (talk) 05:30, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

re:Star Wars
We can make Star Wars together and you can be first in space, but I want to be the first on the moon. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 00:49, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering if Wales could buy a portion of Greenland to create a small provisional government and to harbour our N Atlantic Fleet in America. We are willing to pay a resonable sum for such a deal.Andr3w777 (talk) 06:49, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes me and Lx agreed in 1960 to unify our space programs. In Spread of Communism I just thought i'd let you know that I'm gonna be a bad guy. Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt Euch! Andr3w777 (talk) 05:06, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still playing on Spread of Communism, they are thiking of replacing you if your not. if your not playing, could I take over for you?Andr3w777 (talk) 18:43, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Any idea for the name of our currency? I am partial to the name Europa Pound. We also need to see what the next step in unification will be, any ideas?Andr3w777 (talk) 04:26, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I use the Pound SterlingAndr3w777 (talk) 05:02, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

'Cuse Me
Its bad manners to eavesdrop. And Bharat alone commands 24 points on the algorithym. Add Japan and other allies into the equation, I am sure fighting you will be a breeze. :P Imperium Guy 19:16, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Alone on an algorithym, I can muster anything around 105 to 120 (with my stability being in the 50s). So think twice before siding with Russia. You could stay neutral and nothing will happen but be warned otherwise. :P 86.145.161.29 22:51, July 15, 2012 (UTC) Imperium Guy 17:37, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Have you devised a name for our currency. Russia uses the Ruble, you the Mark and Wales the Pound Sterling.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:45, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Are you planning with Nippon and Bharat a war with Russia, cause by the posts I am wondering what am I not being told...Andr3w777 (talk) 01:54, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I like Euro Mark, it is simple and shows our deep conection with Europe. What is all this junk with Nippon and Bharat on Russia? I am lostAndr3w777 (talk) 01:59, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I was probing them. It is what you were doing right? I am a member of the Russian Commonwealth I will side with Russia, I don't like it, I want peace not war right now, that is why I posted the nuetrality thing. I wanted to see how they would repsond. They seemed to be hell bent on courting both me and you, and since I couldn't determine where you'd side by the comments I decided I'd see what they have to say. Nothing More. Me, you and Russia has worked hard to achieve this Union thing. We won't screw it up now. If you read my post I did say we have ALOT of nukes. It would be suicideAndr3w777 (talk) 02:36, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

So where did the Yoda story come from. You should name the new King Yoda LOL! I have written in a new currency for us I am sure that Lx won't mind Euro Mark. Sorry for the confusion earlier I will not betray an ally. After the currency what would be a good next step as to make it pluasbale?(Forgive my spelling, no spell check on my browser and I am not real good with words, Sorry)Andr3w777 (talk) 03:09, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Wales says "These are not the droids you are looking for...."Andr3w777 (talk) 03:24, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I am pleased to have aided in this adventure. A PM Star Wars would be great. Also Star Wars began in the 70's, we are not that far awayAndr3w777 (talk) 03:37, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I will not interfere with your propoganda. BTW, I am only doing this war so we have a WWII analogue because otherwise it would be boring. Did you know that Andrew did post on my (and Von's I think) that he could be swayed, you should see my talkpage. Imperium Guy 18:10, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Ok! :D Imperium Guy 18:15, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

UL
Yeah, we're planning to make a TL, but not yet :P Got to finish the game itself first. Somehow. And yeah, that's unfortunately me in the profile pic. :D  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 03:48, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Who said I'm from Lithuania? You know nothing about me! Mhahahhahaha!  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 04:01, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Do you play Mount & Blade games?  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 05:45, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I think you will be suprised to see what East Germany is doing in Spread of Comm. We have created an Economic Freedom Zone like OTL Hong Kong and have announced the end to boycotting the UN. We believe it is necessary to adapt in order to survive. Our overlords aren't thrilled but have given us latitude to do this.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:09, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Supranational Confederation
Ok We need to see about the next step toward our nations' intergration. What would be the next logical step, We have a military alliance, a single space agency, and a single currency. What would be the next step?Andr3w777 (talk) 21:38, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

I have a name it will be at least for Wales THE PAN EUROPA CONFEDERATION

The Seven Years War
THE MAP GAME HAS BEGUN! --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 00:44, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Very well I will hold it off. Are you certain we can beat them? They came to me with an offer that I rufused on the grounds that it would require me to betray my allies.Andr3w777 (talk) 18:14, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yes Mapmaker forgot to add it to the map it is the inner part of New Wales.i.e New Wales is on the coast, Nouvelle Champagne is inland.Andr3w777 (talk) 18:26, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

If Vietnam joins the war.... We have a larger border with Britain which is under Vietnamese control. We may end up invaded. We have heavy defensive barriers put into place beacuse of our paronioa early on. But I fear it may not be enough. We are pulling our fleet form the Pacific and stationing it near Wales.Andr3w777 (talk) 18:39, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yes!
I will defend Europe! Stewdio333 (talk) 22:37, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Awesome Idea!
You're one of the few people I'm sharing this with, but I just hit a crazy idea, which I don't know if it's allowed on this Wiki, but when you get back...

An Alternate History with Star Wars-technology!

If we can have a Map Game with space exploration, why can't we have one with really high-tech weapon technology (we'll hand-wave it with some form of energy being discovered in the past.)

Ideas to go with it. So what do you think?
 * It could start during World War I, Interwar, World War II or Cold War. Or we could go earlier, like the Industrial Revolution, the Seven Years War, or the American War of Independence. It can be decided later on.
 * Blasters would pretty much replace guns, or whatever was used during the setting.
 * Space exploration is a possibility, but it may be limited, to focus on having wars focused on Earth (though maybe later, wars can go into space)
 * And of course, Jedis and Sith (or maybe a variation on them), should represent probaby the power of 20 soldiers on average. (Still working on this part.)

Maybe you should read all of my replies to AP before you start taking. I admitted I was an African wank on his talk page, and I never said Liberia would conquer Russia or Britain, but that since no one knows the future, who know what could happen. And the fight ended some tim ago, and didn't involve you. So I kindly request you not interject in a debate that ended an hour ago. You made your point a month ago, and I got it the first time. You don't need to make it a second time. An Ethiopia ain't weak. Corrupt yes. Poor maybe. Weak absolutely not. --"Truth fears no questions..." 18:08, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

One game it is. All games it is not. I do admit to trying to reverse an African nations fortunes, usually using the most likely to succede, Ethiopia. I did go overboard with Liberia. But Ethiopia did have naval capabilities, having had a colony in Yemen, was an active trader in Southeast Asia. It had wealth and power, but the Age of Princes ruined that. Then the failure to pursue modernization when given the chance kicked them again. I never said or acted as if my nations had limitless funds. But when a see other poor nations like Afganistan and Arabia (which until the 1940s had no money), doing what Ethiopia had been doing, namingly modernizing (and let's not forget Ethiopia had electricity and telephones by the 1890s), it leaves me rather perplexed. Seeing that this is an alternate wikia, I thought I would be able to push those nations down the path to success. The Ashanti did have modern weapons because of their trade with the Europeans. They did have the ability to field large armies. And I haven't push them to do anything implausible. In the Spread of Communism, history shows that Ethiopia had money, but it wasn't using it properly. It had the largest military in Africa, which was at the time, equipped with fully modern weapons. And it had the ability to pursue modernization. But the Emperor as history proved, wasn't modernizing the nation fast enough, and that's why the Derg too over so easily. African nation could do better, they just don't. Your overreacting to an issue that went wrong once. All the other times came from a lack of knowledge on the abilities of the African nations I played. I've studied African history to know certain things other people don't, and wouldn't make stupid moves if they werent possible. More people focus on Japan, India, or England, but very few on Ethiopia, Asanteman, or Adal. I play them for the flexiablity, ability to expand, and the ease to develop them. I'm not a fan of implausibility, but the appearent bias or whatever shown in regard to anything African is somewhat angering and saddening. Of course I'd gladly play India or Turkey, but going to low as to look for a way to kick me from SoCR is dirty. --"Truth fears no questions..." 03:26, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware of your actual historian, and I haven't described myself as one, only that I've studied the history of the region. And I didn't not act as if South Sudan was mine. One guy suggested that I do a certain thing, and I thought it was okay. When someone said it wasn't, I stopped. When I said I had oil, I said it was in Massawa, not South Sudan. I even added a link to Eritrea, and someone took the Eritrean port city of Massawa, and dropped it in South Sudan, and then gave me a link to oil in Sudan when I dropped the region all together. And I can lecture about those topics as well. I love history, and thats why I love this site. That is also the reason I don't want to do anything that will get me kicked off of it, hence when I say I wouldn't do anything truely implausible unless it was actually possible. And in regards to Liberia. No one thought some dude from Corsica of all places would almost take over Europe. Who's is to say one from Liberia might almost take over West Africa? I wouldn't hold my breath, but history hs proven that the implausible is sometimes plausible. In special cases of course. --"Truth fears no questions..." 03:52, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

And I did not. And no King and his advisors said that a Corsican guy would conquer would conquer Europe, since that king was dead by then. Plus, he did have to claw his way to a position where he could do anything. But alas, I guess I'll wait for your tag team buddy. Goodnight. --"Truth fears no questions..." 04:02, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

About Your Response to the Star Wars Idea.
That's perfect! We should go with that idea. And yes, Roguejedi definietly needs to come along. Although some things are needed.
 * 1) We need to plan out how this Map Game will go. I've never made a map game, I've always been more of someone who plays along, so I don't know how I would do as a mod.
 * 2) We would need to advertise somehow, I know it's controversial, but the Seven Years War Map Game that started recently gained popularity by "advertising". I'll let you decide what we should do.
 * Yes, George Washington would make for a badass jedi. (I'm Canadian, and even I have to agree with that.) Stewdio333 (talk) 05:51, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

PM. yes
Yes I will help you. I was gone for week at St. Brieux srry.

'''You haven't posted in ages and i didnt see that much expansion. If there was sorry and by this time you should be having economic problems that got you labeled the 'sick man of europe' and i definitely didnt see any reforms to prevent it and whatnot. Bukhara said that it only has a small strip stretching over the north edge. Sorry if anything is wrong but that's my take.AP (talk) 02:16, July 21, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''I've had it up to here with Vivaporious, he's continiouslycontesting everything i post and cross out and he's incredibly implausible. I want him out of SOCr as soon as possible, i'm pretty sure he's already had more than 3 strikes.AP (talk) 02:25, July 21, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''That's fine. Just cut back the African expansion. But i'd like to see you post and not have your nation on autopilot. Otherwise nations won't know what goes on in your Empire and won't be able to respond to it, defeating the map game concept. But anyways all other stuff is right except Bukhara i know those for a fact. On a side note it seems to me that, just like a power vacuum after a major power falls, the implausibility vacuum has been filled by Vivaporious(formerly by DeanSims, but he's banned). Frankly he's annoying the crap outta me everywhere i encounter him. He seriously, no joke IS another Dean. He makes his nations implausibly powerful and wealthy and makes horribly painful expansions. Help me deal with him.AP (talk) 03:07, July 21, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''Yeah i know, i just hope he's changed a little(hopefully). Now the problem is Vivaporious aka Other Dean. I've had other players complain about his antics already and he even had a spat with LG about his annoying African empires. yes we need to revive TEvsCP with some proper changes of course. I dread playing Principia Moderni II with him because he's probably going to try and make his Swahili Kingdoms into a superpower in two years. AP (talk) 03:42, July 21, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''True,very true. I grimace when i see his name signed up on a map game that i want to play/am playing. I want him gone from SOCr. So is Unknown landmass still going? if so i wanna play, maybe on another continent seeing as how the current one is filled.AP (talk) 04:00, July 21, 2012 (UTC)'''

I Have Returned!
Yes, you are right. I have returned from a far off land.

The map looks different from what I thought it would be, but I suppose that that is/was the piont.

Have to say, I am a bit behind on what happened in the map games. Can you fill me in? America looks larger in VLRR, but other than that I am clueless.

I noticed that you talked to Andrew about PMII. If he is in for it, then we should move forward with our plan. Did the game start yet?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 05:11, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, hey, hey! I like my map!! :P Plus, I still think there should be a Australia and a Zealandia! :D Imperium Guy 13:02, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Gone
Hey, I'll be gone for a week until next sunday so could you take over my map games?

VLR: Prussia: Just conquer small German States and improve the military.

'''7 Day War: You are New France: Improve infanstructure and stay safe. No independence until 1775.'''

Thanks, Whosonefirst? (talk)

In light of your comments, I don't wish to end up like Dean (who's page I visited). I don't like implausible events, and my actions in TAvsCP were not what I was going for, and I agree using Liberia to take over Africa was going too far. However, banning me for making an argument that nothing to do with my planned moves in the game was wrong. I had two strikes, attempting to invade a Portuguese colony and French West Africa. But I had one left. Now, since that game is dead, it doesn't matter any more. My point though, is simple. I don't want you to hate me for something that happened in a single game, and then spread that anger to others. AP is a fool in my eyes, and I hope your more kind in my seeking a better start with you. To clarify, my actions in TAvsCP have no bearing on my actions elsewhere, including SoCM. I made no indication that I had limitless funds or that I was going to make a world spanning African empire, and I don't appricate your percieve perception of my actions in PPII. So if your willing to leave this issue be and forget the matter, and allow us to go on I friendly users who don't blast CAPS lines at each other, I'd be more than willing to cooperate. Though, I would ask that you not compare me to Dean. I made arguements that I could prove, he did not. Well, I don't know I never saw which games he played. I just what to play the games and do something useful, not get into a fight about imaginary funds. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:59, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

hey Scraw i need an answer on the Unknown landmass thing.AP (talk) 18:29, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Lincoln's Mistake
Interested in helping me with this timeline? im shelving the other one for now since i have no ideas for that one. this ill be making a timeline and an online archive of stories from different point of view characters in the different periods of the TL up to the 2070's with the beginning of space colonization but that will be done on a seperate page if i cant on this wiki. Nkbeeching

Ah, thank you Scraw. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 19:53, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Are we sure war is happening, I am getting mixed messages from Nippon on that. Vietnam says they will probabily remain neutral. I really want to unify Britain. Our Pan Europa idea is still possible as I'll control Britain. I suppose I can wait a little longer, but my whole goal when I fist joined PM was to unite Britain into one nation, so far that has been impossible to do. If Vietnam stays out I can still merge, but not if war is on the way. How sure are we of the war its has been 4 or 5 turns since they mentioned it and nothing has happened at all. I will talk to Nue Brandenburg.Andr3w777 (talk) 20:50, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Dang it, there goes my reunion plan. Crap, I will cancel the referendum effective immediently, Can we get Collie on our side because if not we will have a major issue.Andr3w777 (talk) 20:59, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Just finished talking to Collie before you sent that message. I also talked to Neue Brandenburg. I will also evangelize some of Africa. Do you have Byzantium yet?Andr3w777 (talk) 21:09, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Finished talking to Ethiopia, waiting a reply. All the other nations are taken up by members in the war.Andr3w777 (talk) 21:18, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

We got Ethiopia on our side! Andr3w777 (talk) 21:20, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'd much rather serve a European master than an Oriental one. I look forward to the war. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 21:26, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

If Hungary side with Asia. Wales will remain in the war. I know that it is suicide because of Britain right next door. But Wales put alot into this alliance. Our nations are practically one. Because of this. We will fight along side our Russian and Scandinavian bretherenAndr3w777 (talk) 21:36, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

I just begged Finland- hopefully they will side with us.Andr3w777 (talk) 21:47, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;">Oh well, I'm now involved, and I have been implausible many a time. I can last longer than the average user in trying to calm fights. I am pretty sure Dean has not been permanently blocked before me 'cause I can be persistant.

I'll keep in mind not to use f***ing again, lol. I was just a bit cheesed of with Ap's behaviour. "People will dread him playing in PMII", I'm like really? Even DEAN was plausible when he played PM, he just didn't know how large his territory was (:/)!

And for MaxSysa (yeah, that's my abbreviation), I did not know we were planning a Terra-Australis. I'll get to work on that straight away! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:54, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

ok i will join the war, but in which game in Principia moderny right?im confused cause you posted in the seven years reply

ok bueno quienes son los belicosos de el juego, quienes nos quieren eliminar?

todas las naciones asiaticas van a atacar europa? o sino dime cuales en especifico


 * Inglip: estamos perdidos,si ayudare en lo que pueda aunque no creo que mi ayuda sea de mucho el bizantium no es muy poderoso en este juego y es muy probable que yo sea el vencido, y francia yo por estar cerca de asia y francia por el debil estado social

en fin como es nuestra situacion a comparacion de la asiatica

well what our status,How much points do we have against asians

I'm gonna be unavailable for the next 24 hours or so, If something happens bad happens while I'm away you have permission to post on my behalf.Andr3w777 (talk) 02:20, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware. I'll keep Ethiopia away from Bharat. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 02:23, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Just PM I think.Andr3w777 (talk) 02:32, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thats not fair, moving Ethiopia away from Bharat, lol. But yeah, I have a new map ready:



So, I have made a acclaimed Terra Australis (I am pretty sure Australia is where it should be 'cause I looked at maps from the time frame when they thought Terra-Australis existed. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:56, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Our Plan
That is good to hear.

I was thinking, if the HRE was only one nation, we could all discuss what to do in one turn and post together. Posting our turns seperatly would work as well.

What do you have in mind for the full extent of the HRE, as I remember you saying it could be bigger.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 02:47, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re:A New Map (No Napoleon)
Wow. That would actually be quite swell, thank you. If you happen to make a mistake, don't worry about it, I should be able to fix it. Thanks again, ChrisL123 (talk) 05:06, July 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'll have to come up with a few flags. But if I can't come up with one as you ask for it, just leave it blank and I can fill it in afterwards. And thanks, haha, I didn't like the original versions, and I really came up with it on the spot. Regards, ChrisL123 (talk) 23:37, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

BFE R&R
Are you really making the map?

Because its kinda taking a really long time...

if not, I've been contemplating BFE Revised and Reloaded.

The Royal Guns (talk) 10:39, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ok that makes some sense. I know how royalty works but still cousins. Ita like living in Mississippi, oh wait I can here the banjos playing RUN! LOL! JK. IT sounds good. That would put the Prince of Wales at about 4th in line behind, the Princess of Wales. Have they aever done a three antion Dynastic Union before?Andr3w777 (talk) 12:35, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Seven Year War
hey scraw since your russia in the map game interested in some 20 or 30 years in stripping china of some land mongolia and outer manchuria to you korea, formosa, and hainan to me. Nkbeeching

What I was meaning is she is related to him, but never mind it was meant to be more of a humour thing anyway. Also what is up with people balming me for posts disappearing? What I do when i get a conflict is I press the back button and it refreshes the page. Can that delete something? Anyway I paln on doing it the correct way this time to avoid mistakes.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:12, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hanover and Flanders
Taking the parts of Hanover that once belonged to Sweden/Denmark is fine by the SDL, conquering Hanover or making it into a puppet state is not. Flanders really has no reason to join up with Scandanavia, their culture is radically different. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:43, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Novus Mundi.Please join my new Map game Novus Mundi .Also will you play as new york in new beginning or should i release the spot?

Just Asking...
Hello Scraw. Are you very knowledgable about media and movie corporations? If you are, could I ask your help in managing the media page for the Age of Kings? I'm planning on starting that tonight, and it would be nice if someone who actually knew what he was doing could take the lead. I ask this because you are always making Star Wars a three-trilogy series, so you seem to have a degree of interest in that regard.

Thank you for your consideration. If you could help, that would be great.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 03:24, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you are very good with them. I have a few unique plans regarding the modern day situation of the media. Disney owing just about everything, movie series being longer, etc. I think it will be a very interesting parallel to OTL media.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 03:47, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Twelve Star Wars films? I thought that there would only be nine if it was extended. I was planning to make Indiana Jones longer, maybe not seven films (yet). There will generally be more superhero films, and I was thinking that there could be a few films based on video games. Other than that, I don't think I have much else in mind.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 04:36, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Lol I like the "shreds flag" part in PM LOL. Also I am with you with the dang edit conflicts, I got three whil trying to post in Seven Years. BTW why is everyone so upset at Britain losing. I play as the 13 colonies, I seem to remember the point of the game was to lose, I am I wrong?Andr3w777 (talk) 05:04, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

DoneAndr3w777 (talk) 05:15, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

You heard from Collie? Its been a day or so. I am just really anxious to see what happens.Andr3w777 (talk) 05:17, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Profile Graph
How do you do the graph thing you have on your profile, with the lang stuff down at the bottom too?Andr3w777 (talk) 05:53, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

BFE
YES! Only now every one thinks its dead so...

advertising is necessary.

The Royal Guns (talk) 07:58, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hanoverian War
You declared war on Hanover because two independant duchies joined them on their own free will. You are a warmonger on par with Scandinator or Kunarian at their worst.

Yank 22:46, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I apologize. It was unfair to compare you to Kunarian. It's just that it seemed like the war started for no reason. If I knew you were going to react that way I would have made Schleswig and Holstein join Scandanavia in the first place. Yank 23:02, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I'm still sorry about the insult, but the whole war looked to me like the nation equivilent of a bully beating a kid for his lunch money. Yank 23:06, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is. Regardless of what should of happened before, they joined the Kingdom of Hanover out of fear of increased Scandanavian domination of the region. Hence Nippon is leading the call to protect Hanover from loosing large swathes of its territory to Scandivia's ruthless expansionism. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 11:35, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

The political situation was like a tinderbox. People were waiting for the slightest spark to cause the whole thing to go up in flames. Hanover's motive would likely be a 5, as they are set to lose two of their provinces. Yank 23:12, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Beats me. Math was never my strong suit. Hence why I usually can't finish my war algorithms. I have no idea wether or not to sit out the upcoming war. Yank 23:15, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Maths is, however, my strong suit. Sorry to be nosy, but Scandinavia can only have a maximum of 20 million people in the 60/70s. Sorry! :/ Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:18, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Look, forgive me if I'm sceptical about your calculations. You say that Asia will lose, and Imp says that Asia will win (especially if I join in). I know neither of you are truely "impartial", as both of you have something to gain or lose in this war. Which makes the choice all the more difficult for me. Yank 23:27, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I just feel that you understate Asia's power in order to make Europe seem stronger. We need to have a neutral person formulate this important war algorithm. Yank 23:34, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

No, no, no Scraw, it is all wrong. (8.0^1.25/1.25^8.0) * 2.5 * 8 = 45.145 = 45. The ^ means squared. You can check this on google! :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:40, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, well, pfft same thing!! :D [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:28, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

'''HOW DO YOU EDIT TEXT TO MAKE IT A DIFFERENT COLOUR IN THE EDITOR? ALSO HOW DO YOU DO YOUR GRAP THING ON YOUR HOMEPAGE, INCLUDING THE LANG STUFF. SORRY FOR THE CAPS LACK, IT IS STUCK.Andr3w777 (talk) 04:14, July 24, 2012 (UTC)'''

My Profile Page Help
Home Country- Germany but lives in the US

Hometown and Current Residence Home town Hamburg- current residence Wetumpka, AL(ugh the ALABAMA part is embarrising, its like a third world nation heh heh)

Political views- Socially Liberal Independent(I am liberal on social issues like same sex, but conservative on money and stuff)

Intrests as follows Historical Periods of Interest And languages however you do that
 * Fixing Computers
 * History
 * Writing/Reading
 * Wiki
 * Video Games
 * Music
 * American Revolution
 * Japan during the Meiji Reformations (1863-1869)
 * American Civil War
 * Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in 1917
 * WWII
 * Cold War

Speaks American Standard English(called Yankee English down here- people in NY thought I was from there when I visted LOL if they only knew)

First Language is German- this user speaks at a fluent level

Russian- very little- enough to hold a small hey how ya doin'

Latin- O My God Aweful, still i write it better than I say it

That should be all of it.:D

Andr3w777 (talk) 04:28, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Juat who is telling the truth? I am lost. I am still the newbie compared to you, Imp and Von. How do I know that the algorithm is on our side. I said I'd support you, but even though we are in an alliance I cannot let my nations sovreignty go. Yank has told Von that he will completely remove Wales off the face of the planet. I cannot let that happen. I really want to support because you've been a good ally. But how the HELL I am supposed to when my nation is underconstant threat of invasion. If it were just Nippon, or just Bharat then ok. But it seems like the whole world is against us. Even with Collie- How could we hope to win.

I just need the sraight truth. the last time is sided with someone it didn't work out so good. I know next to nothing about good diplomacy or how to govern. I am learning, but I am FAR from good at this.Andr3w777 (talk) 18:41, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Aid is being sent to you. Also I decided to hurry up and end this. I have declared war on Britain. I know it seems rash, but I overread(without meaning to) that Yank was planning an all out invasion next turn. I am sorry that it begins like this, but at least we'll go down fighting. As I am a member of the Russian Commonwealth, I can assume that Russia is involved. Have you talked to Collie we need him!Andr3w777 (talk) 18:58, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

Having the moral high-ground in war is arguably the most important thing in modern war. I was hoping the SDL was going to get involved to give you an even deadlier blow but no matter. There is a cold war going on, this is what happens in cold war. Your cold war nemesis will try to stop you in any way possible find any old excuse, just as you have against our nations (mostly Imp's nations but thats usually because of the SDL). Anyway this is only stage 1 of mine & Imp's plan, beware, the next two stages are coming quicker than you might think. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 19:06, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

The second kind. I love constitutional monarchies, hate absolute ones. Fed (talk) 01:04, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

TESTING Andr3w777 These are not the droids you are looking for. 01:17, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

I have good news for you about Spain, because they already have had a

Basically, only the Francified illustrated people and elements of the military were liberal during the time, so a somewhat conservative government should do the trick... Until you reach a small problem; the Spanish people hated French in the area. I guess you could placate the Spanish public by naming the leftist Spaniard King of Spain and marrying him to a sister of Napoleon or her cousin or something... Though I'm sure it'll take a while to placate the mob of angry pro-Spaniards. But without Napoleon's consistent warring, I'm sure France could do it. Fed (talk) 02:14, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

I see. And well, I don't mean "conservative" as in "reactionary" but more of conservative as in "something far more rightist than whatever could be pulled up in France". Not exactly conservative (I'm liberal as well, heh), but with several conservative tendencies. Fed (talk) 02:26, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. By the way, any advice on building those comic sci-fi based nations for 83DD? I'm planning to do a slightly larger analogue to the Imperial Empire (or your UFC) across the Pond based on Doctor Who, lol. Fed (talk) 02:44, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Brandenburg in PMII
Hey Scraw,

As you may or may not know, I am remaking the PMII map. In the current map Brandenburg is about two times larger than what it was and did not have a coastline. If you wish to reconsider your choice it is not too late.

Scandinator (talk) 08:31, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

The whole thing is ridiculous. The Byzantines were already collapsing and they fended off the Ottomans? Then the Papal States,Scotland,the Ottoman Empire,and the Byzantines found colonies? None of those nations could ever have colonies and even if they could its 1500, 8 years after the New World was discovered.AP (talk) 20:44, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

I'll join the HRE but preserving my ports in the Balkans is essential. I'm thinking about waiting for the Ottomans to conquer a bunch of Balkan nations before I attack them so I would gain more territory :P. Also Spain is pretty full so they won't bow out easily. Also which colour would you like for Brandenburg? Scandinator (talk) 01:30, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

For your colour. I am only accepting rgb values (0, 51, 102, 153, 204 and 255). Is 0, 0, 153 ok? Scandinator (talk) 10:42, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

You plan to conquer the Indian sub-continenet, when I am planning alliances with Venice and one of the HRE states? Pfft, It'll take you too long, and by that time, India will be united under my banner, mwa hahahaha!! :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:31, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

India is not buddhist, never has been! :P I plan to make India completely hindu, not buddhist. Plus, I will probably pick another nation (its gonna be hindu either way) and I will dominate the sub-continent before the HRE is united! :P And even though Venice will be part of the HRE, he does not need to do what you say, he has his own say cause it is his own state. By the time the mughals will try to expand, they will fail! Mwa hahahahahaha >:D Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:54, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry to but in, but Imp you couldn't be more wrong. Buddism actually started in India! Also if you remain Muslim, then my nation, Oman could be close allies with you. Otherwise it looks like I'm going to be quite neutral in this next game. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:14, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

I know it started in India (Prince Siddarth), but I don't intend on making India buddhist, but hindu! Plus, I will probably choose another nation after the new map is completed.

Now Scraw, my previous message:

Don't worry about me, worry when I will have colonies at your back door. That'll freak you out! :P Plus, I will look to fund the Novogrodians to expand as well as ally myself with the Chinese. 2 powerful states, much larger than the HRE, I would not be worried. >:D

P.S I am trying to get the UFC running again. I have changed location and everything, but I need the vice to help otherwise it won't last!! :/ Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:52, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

SOCr
Come back! We need the mods!

The Royal Guns (talk) 10:19, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Maximum Systema, something something...
Hmm, that's interesting, I (and we) hadn't thought of that. I suppose that they would have, but the size of the moon would likely made it appear to be simply another planet. Then they might have named it accordingly.

But if they had. That would be interesting. Unfortunatly, I have no ideas.

I think we ought to make a blog post for the HRE in PMII, as it is getting annoying to talk to three different people.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 12:10, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Scrawland, could you do the algorithim for Ethiopia and Britain? No one has done it yet, and Ethiopia is getting crushed based on which army people think would do better. In your hands lay 30 million lives. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 14:28, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Scraw first of all by the time Russia can even reach me and Kogasa we are gonna be able to match up to them and if the Russians found the Ainu they would be nice to them taking the Ainu were white. Willster22 (talk) 04:04, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

What the heck? The HRE isn't even centralized and you're making plans to conquer a nnation you dont even share a border with? Prioritize. Besides you will bow down before SPANCE! :DAP (talk) 04:12, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Ok? Why don't we just plan out everything from that point to the present to become leading world powers instead. It's easier than conquest and maybe down the road join up dynastically. Because no matter what i plan on becoming Spance through war or marriage.AP (talk) 04:26, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Intresting... Although i did agree with RWG about unifying with me peacefully as Spance, it won't really give me full control. Even though it'll mean screwing him over... I'm in:D LONG LIVE SPANCE! And the Castile player looks inactive so yeah... We'll talk about the British Isles when we get to that point, it will be a while. But yeah who's the Venice player?

Alright. But i'll keep Naples.AP (talk) 05:17, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can use the ICHR, you can post as it, send people to it, or whatever. Its been done in the past, in fact remember where you sent the Wonderlaand terrorists? The issue is not letting other people use it (something I try encourage in fact), its being tied to other political organisations and the judicial independence of the ICHR.

And the only times I've pinned hostility on you, is when you invade places like Hanover and do stupid things like destroy my flags on the moon. I mean, what am I meant to do? Sit there and take that sort of abuse? The only thing you got on me was my attempt to get you to start a nuclear war with Wonderlaand.

And I'm against the whole IL thing, because I don't think it'll make a bloomin' difference to anything like the other IL stuff set up in years gone by, which also failed. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 15:04, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Hey our plan is still set but i may or may not have to take France by force. If RWG agrees, i'll take over Spance as a whole and he'll take another nation and i'll help him and whatnot. But the union with Venice will still happen and everything else. If i want to make a United Kingdom then i gotta do it peacefully otherwise revolts will occur down the line. However the plan will proceed as planned, i'll need help taking Iberia.AP (talk) 00:24, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. If RWG declines then sorry to him but France will fall to Aragon. I don't know what to do with the Castile player though, snce the game starts in 1450 who marries who? Aragon with Castille or Aragon with Venice?Maybe first with Castile and then marry off the kids? and i'm awaiting a reply from Collie to see if Portugal would like to be a home nation of the UK of Iberia and France.AP (talk) 01:13, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

It wasnt 1450? I thought it was. Well i dont know i think it's best to unify Spain first. But i'll consider itAP (talk) 01:21, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

We have a problem. Venice is not a monarchy, it's a merchant republic so a dynastic union is not possible. What should we do now?AP (talk) 05:09, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

How is our plan for PMII? Any new developments?These are not the droids you are looking for. 05:16, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Je suis d'accord.AP (talk) 05:24, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Fractured America Mark II
Want to help me revive Fractured America? With Dean gone we could revive it and it wouldn't go ASB. We could use the PM algorithm for Wars or something. I eally liked that map game, but it died to bias and impluasiblity because the mods didn't do their job. If we do revive it, I wll need your help as this will be one of my first map games, I'll need help getting the word out as well as providing rules, maps etc.These are not the droids you are looking for. 22:30, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Since the deal with Venice didnt go through what else should we do? Castile said that the marriage would go on but i have no intentions of sharing a cramped peninsula with another state who is weaker than i am. Which will it be war or marriage? No revolts would happen later because we are all Spanish and i will control Spain on my own which i will later expand militarily to prepare for the assault on France.AP (talk) 00:45, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

You could try but I think it won't be allowed. Colonies are ruled differently to the actual nation itself, and I don't think the mods will budge on this decision. I'm slowly moving Wonderlaand to be usually neutral in conflicts but it'll be very close allies with Nippon, Fjordlaand and Scandinavia. Also good allies of the Federation of the Americas too, with no real enemies as such. I mean there'll always be some of that pan-Sweden nationalism stuff, but not a lot. Regardless if you fail to get Wonderlaand part of Scandinavia then know Wonderlaand will remain a close ally.

Also while I'm here, I do say I like the idea of a Fractured America reboot. I would like it if we went back to the part before DeanSims undid all our posts for a few years & re-started from that point. A lot of good content got buried after Dean did that crap and I think it'd be shame to let that stuff go to waste. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:55, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

I meant go to the original Fractured America game and un-do Dean's roll back. Just have that as the game and we continue from where we left off. Like what's been done in Greater Europe.

Also check what I put on the prinicipia moderni talk page, seems I've confused everybody with my intentions for France. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:07, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sure I'll help. I haven't been paying much attentiion too the game given the hilarity of the actions. I'll make the move, but then I'm out. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 00:07, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Will do.AP (talk) 03:10, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Let me say again what I'm doing with France because I believe you've missed what I said. You said to me:
 * Doesn't it make more sense just to occupy them for a bit until you can be sure they're all good. That's what the Allies did after World War II.

To which I replied:
 * I'm forming a puppet regime in France because their is nothing in the rules about occupying another nation for a while. Making a puppet was the closest thing to occupying them for a bit until they're all good like what the Allies did after World War II. If I can do an occupation then I'll do that but I wasn't sure if I would be allowed to occupy them as there is no rules about it so I went for something with more clarity, i.e. a temporary puppet government.

I am doing exactly what you want yet you abandon me? The temporary puppet regime for 1-2 years is the equivalent of occupying them for a bit. What is your problem? <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!)

Your nations being Norway, Greenland, Arctica, Nouvelle Copenhague, Denmark and Sweden right? <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 19:48, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

New Map Game
Hey, I was thinking of creating a new map game, almost starting at the beginning of history. If you are interested, just let me know! :)

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 05:34, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Well, basically it would start in 1750 B.C., right before the Indus Valley Civilization would collapse and soon before Mycenean Greece formed. Players would choose a civilization and try to steer it to survive, or at least provide a lasting influence on the world.

You know, some nations would be like Egypt, the Hittite Empire and others.

Let's see the map and then we can judge how truly ASB it is!

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:37, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, you can have China, but you won't have any major rivals for a while.

Interesting. What is light blue?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 20:13, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

No, I meant light, light blue. Like New Zealand and New Caledonia. Is that like the federated chiefdoms of Polynesia or something?

I know ERB. Have they made any new videos recently?

The map game is now up, but it needs more work.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:02, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Some Russian Stuff
Greetings. I will be more than happy to help you out, for I have too been trying to find the proper designation for Russian subdivisions. But generally, it all depends on when these reforms come. But in the long run, my best bet is to call them governorates. Between Peter the Great's reforms until the October Revolution, the Russian Empire was divided into governorates (called  in Russian), which acted much like provinces in western Europe. They fell out of use (OTL) because these former governorates would become subordinates of the eventual republics that made up the USSR, leading to the modern day s and s. Definitely my favorite choice.

Wow *blushes*. I am honored that you like my timeline. Hearing that has made my day. But to be fair, you can also chalk this up to me having way too much time on my hands. As for the flag usage, everything but the flag for Volgaland are actual flags used form OTL, so I don't believe you need to ask me to use them (but I do appreciate the gesture). Same with (officially the Jewish Autonomous Oblast), I don't believe I own it (I would prefer owning Vladivostok personally XD). But either way, I am happy that other like them and are willing to use them, so feel free (I won't mind).

We do seems to have a lot in common. However, I don't believe I am a wizard like you, because I have no idea how you know I am OCD. Seriously, did I mention it before (because I honestly do not remember). Sorry about that, I have a meme on my mind (had to do the "wizard" part XD). But anyway, glad to meet a friendly face. I hope I was able to help you out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:46, July 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Very interesting, I can't wait to read this timeline. Have you a link to it, or is it not out at the present?


 * Why yes, those flags are from OTL. In fact, if you look up on Wikipedia, you can actually see it. Sorry for this, but it is history time (XD). When proposals came out for a flag for the Crimea, this rainbow flag was the absolute favorite among the Supreme Soviet (Verkhovna Rada). But in the end, the semi-Slavic flag was chosen. As for the rest, the Cossack flag uses the colors of the Don Cossacks (blue), Kuban Cossacks (purple), and the remaining (gold). The  was the version in use until 2003. The  is the flag used by ethnic . Sorry for the lecture, but I am so fascinated by history and vexillology. You may want to check out this website, it has a lot of flags based on history and such.


 * Wow! I had no idea people here actually went on my site. Hope you weren't too freaked out. Until next time. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 19:45, July 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hooray. Six World Wars? Can't wait to read more.


 * Good luck, there are plenty of flags to look up. If you need any help, I am all ears. Also, glad I could teach you a new word (even if I can't spell it after years of knowing what it is). XD


 * Glad you like the idea, but I can't take all the credit. I am merely a governor of the largest state (Bellinsgauzenia), while the President (David Powell) came up with the idea. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:16, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. Actually, both Bellinsgauzenias are mine. While I thought of the name for GWS first, I fell in love with it that I decided to rename my state in the FSA to Bellinsgauzenia. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:29, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. Seems okay to me. Now I see how Russia changes, very interesting. Just to add, Governorates would be the subdivisions if Peter the Great was involved. I do like the idea of him being liberal and reforming Russia into a constitutional monarchy. While I know little about his as I do for (say Gorbachev), I could see it being a possibility, since he was pro-Europe. But since no European power was a constitutional monarchy, and there will not be one until the French Revolution, I am not too sure. But either way, love the idea. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 22:20, August 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I do, but I don't. The reason Moscow (not Russia) is called the Third Rome has to do with religion. Rome is obviously the First Rome. After the fall of the Roman Empire, the rose from the ashes. John Green does a wonderful job explaining it than me (and funnier too). But to summarize, the Byzantine Empire called itself the "Roman Empire" (despite not having Rome in it). Constantinople (the capital) is the Second Rome. It was here that the  rose to power. After the Byzantine Empire fell to the Muslim Ottomans, it wouldn't be until a century later that the Russians converted to Orthodox Christianity, with Moscow as the seat for the church (meaning now it was the Third Rome). In fact, the word "tsar" quite literally means "Caesar." Again, John Green does a better job than me. XD


 * Sadly, being called the "Third Rome" had nothing to do with being Roman-like. However, this didn't stop Russia from being Byzantine (a word which also mean "strange"). No seriously, we can thank the Russians (including Peter the Great) for "liberating" the Orthodox regions from the Ottoman Empire (Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, etc.). Aside from Bulgaria in WWI especially, these regions would remain pro-Russia. You could work form here, if it helps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 22:59, August 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Historical error. The Russians converted to Orthodoxy before the Byzantine Empire fell. But still, when Moscow came to dominance, the Orthodox Church moved and thrived there. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:06, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

He sure is. Have you seen Crash Course? It is really interesting. Also, glad I could help. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:13, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

re:Star Wars
Sorry for not getting back to you until now. At any rate, I have created a page for Star Wars in PM with a Think Tank on the talk page. As for ideas, I'd like the sequel trilogy to focus on maybe the Thrawn Trilogy or the Yuuzhan Vong. Episode X, XI, and XII could be about the Vong or Darth Caedus, depending on what we do for the first sequel trilogy.

As for TV shows, we could do a Knights of the Old Republic TV serial or a Legacy-era TV series. Thoughts? CrimsonAssassin (talk) 14:22, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

I was hoping you'd say that. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 12:49, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5 Reloaded
Things are heating up in the game! You haven't posted recently, and I don't want you to miss out. Come on back! CourageousLife (talk) 02:41, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Giving me Rome in Ridiculous Land? Nah, I think I quit the game. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 01:21, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Could you help the Kingdom of France in their latest battle against the People's Republic of France? I'm only trying to take the rest of the North (e.g. Paris) so the SDL aren't getting involved so you don't have your balls twisted. Anyway you helping the KF? <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:00, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

A Great World
would you like to play my, unknown landmass like game and be a mod, i ask you because i know you are a good mod if so please join A Great World (Map Game)

I did ask for land, and you said no. Enclavehunter (talk) 04:11, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

1851 Enclavehunter (talk) 04:29, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Je suis tres desole. If you notice i hardly post for my own nation so posting for another one was hard lol. I did on one turn i believe. Anyway you encroached on France's territorial rights in East Africa by purposefully expanding to stop his colony from expanding, just look at the map. We also dont like the fact that you will be controlling the Suez Canal, we want that for ourselves. There is a better way to go, that idea was kinda just thrown out there. A Gibraltar-style situation maybe? That or maybe sell Egypt to me.AP (talk) 06:40, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Also France wishes to purchase Algeria.AP (talk) 06:41, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

This is not a firefight so don't get all italize-y bolded on me. That expansion wasn't on purpose. I said that because France asked to purchase what you had of Algeria, which you declined. Just forget about this whole business. And please post more often, i really don't think it's fair to the other players when your nation 'auto expands' while you do not post( you have mentioned this before). Anyways, that's done hopefully. BTW Dean is back and he's playing A-H. He is on probation, 3 strikes and he's out. Watch for that and let the other mods know. I'm in Mexico right now so i probably won't be able to post until late like right now so just make sure things don't get out of hand on VLR.AP (talk) 07:04, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

It's fine. All will return to normal, no wars no nothing. I want to have 40 years of peace in the game at least. Make sure that the Olympics stay as they are. I'm going to change the form of choosing the host city. That is all. Good day, i'm on vacation! Remember to keep things under control, i have confidence in you. AP (talk) 07:11, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well? you helping the Kingdom of France in their latest battle against the People's Republic of France or not? I'm only trying to take the rest of the North (e.g. Paris) so the SDL aren't getting involved so you don't have your balls twisted. Anyway you helping the KF or not? Sorry to rush you but I'm planning on ending the war this turn. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 08:49, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Journey
I will be absent for ten days, so if you could cover all my map games, that would be appreciated.

Since Viva La Revolution Reloaded seems to be the only one in motion right now, focus on that one. As America, try to avert the up-coming civil war, or win the war for the north.Keep the Union together! Remain the power in control of Polynesia, and try not to let go of American China. If you could do all of those things, that would be great.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 17:05, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wasn't informed on the one city Olympic rule, other nations put forward two cities so I thought it would be customary to put forward two as well.

Thanks for your efforts. If you can plausibly revive TEvs.CP, I will be interested.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:06, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re:No Napoleon Again
Why thank you, that should be great. As for Africa, there will only be three flag changes: the flag of Egypt, the flag for Congo, and the nation in OTL eastern Congo, Zaire. The first two can be found on the page, and I am currently working on the Zaire one. And yes, Turkestan is that whole OTL Central Asia region.

As for the timelines, those are great. And I'd love to hear more suggestions. I'll be making the page on Media soon, so you can add your timelines there. Thanks again for the map progress! ChrisL123 (talk) 02:47, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Update: I finished the flag for Zaire. I forgot to mention that Libya's flag would be the current one after the Arab Spring. And I'm sorry for the annoyance, but I forgot to mention that is now a part of Turkey while the  would be given to Egypt. Sorry, and thanks again. ChrisL123 (talk) 03:13, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Haha, I figured it would help. About Israel, well, I figured this: when the arrives after World War I, the British would try to get "revenge" on the Turkish somehow for their loss in the war, and in their efforts they would be able to free Israel (as a protectorate, though). Plus, nations have always been after the Holy Land, so. ChrisL123 (talk) 03:35, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes of course, by all means. You were the one to come up with it, after all. Should be interesting, thank you. Just post it on my sandbox when you're done with it, unless I make the Media page by then. ChrisL123 (talk) 04:16, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Moscow Pact Tactics (CD,CM)
What are we going to do? I think that North Spain would fall quite quickly, as Portugal is on our side and I would'nt mind giving them some land. The problem is obviously that this would cause WW2 and it might not be so good to be seen as the agressor.

However this assumes that we would fight the allies. Lets say you wanted to hit the entente, wich might not be such a bad idea, with Persia and the Gulf Union to take the Ottomans, me in Gibraltar and Japan excecuting raids on India/Australia. Also might win Indonesia (I Am Walrus (talk)) round to help on that front by offering expansion and protection.

The major flaw with both these plans though is that to be the agressor would invite the other alliance to attack us. From then on we get smashed by the US and UK.

Since I have the Republican flag I assume I am the republic and North Spain is Fascist, which gives us propoganda.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk)

Good news. UK has moved troops to Canada to counter a percived US threat. We may be the third side, the ones who choose which way to swing the war. I have started to try and influance indonesia by asking for some timber of them as spain has not a lot. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk)

lol, what a coincidence.

As the UK, I'm more scared of the Americans than you, so we promise not to intervene in the case of a Spanish war. In addition, we will keep up a very active presence on the American border.

Have fun!

The Royal Guns (talk) 14:27, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

But Get the Entente on the bad side too, and your asses are going to be handed to you.

The Royal Guns (talk) 14:30, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Egypt (for suez and boxing ottomans) and that very large natural resource filled south american country seem good places to try and get. Also Persia (as we don't have it any more) :(

It sounds good. I know the communists got trashed in this atl, but could I go socialist?

I no one gets portugal in 5/10 turns should I try and unify Iberia under my flag (we both have royal families...)

The future looks tasty,

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 18:50, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, sure Scraw. Sounds good to me.

The Royal Guns (talk) 04:42, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Wasn't being sarcastic, lol.

Ehh... AH is still extremely powerful, and Germany is practically united- including many areas out side it.

Russia just went through a CIvil war some 10 years ago.

And the Entente + the Allie? As I said, ass handed to you.

The Royal Guns (talk) 04:54, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

The eagle would land, but I have no opposable thumbs!David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 09:01, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

... First, the Ottomans are more powerful than Brazil- which, unlike the Ottomans, is still a third world nation.

Uhh... remember the Commies? They had a revolution. Stalin and all were assasinated, but there were still a LOT. Some the war ends around 1930, with a White victory, forcing democracy.

Actually, remember what Germany did OTL? if they hadn't attacked the Russians, they would have won the war. And sure, they're weaker, but they're not alone this time- so we'll take you, anyday.

AH is still extremely powerful. not as much as in it's height, but enough to take you with a few friends. India, OTL, has ethnic minorities, many of whom are revolting- like the Naxalites- but they're still powerful. Besides, it has been nearly 40 years since their last expansion. The revolters are OLD. The new gen think of the selves as AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN.

ANd England still has India- who aren't complaining, since OTL they really initially only wanted home rule, it was only because this was denied to them they protested for full independence- plus Australia and Canada, who don't want independence yet. So the Brits OUT NUMBER THE RUSSIANS, since they have India, with some 300-350 million people.

Not to mention, you're talking off pissing off us AND THE ALLIES!

Basically, we'll piss on you.

No offense.

The Royal Guns (talk) 09:48, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

So, here's what I'm thinking- if the Allies and Moscow team up, we can stomp all over the Entente. The left is the Allies/Moscow country, the right is the Entente country they would face. Of course, there will be support from other nations and defense of a nation's borders, but this was the major outline I was thinking of. CourageousLife (talk) 18:10, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Surprise!
As it turns out, I do in fact have internet, so I will (probably) be able to play on all of the games. Thank you for the turns that you did, you did exactly what I was going to do in BFER.

I look forward to playing the games. Are you playing in RWG's new one?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 16:50, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lincoln's Mistake
should i abandon this timeline to start a different one from scratch? its not my only idea got alot but it seems its not getting anywhere and it might might get deleted as an ASB. what do you think. Nkbeeching

Carpe Diem
I can't talk right now, I have a thing, but I should be back around 7 or 8 (or 000 to 100 i think) CourageousLife (talk) 19:52, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Canada doesn't have that capability yet? What capabilities? the probes? or the rocket prototype? I just read your posts in BFE and BFE Revised: your post in BFE included " launch a joint mission", and BFE Revised: "Canada decides to start a mission to Mars" and "The Prime Minister agrees to create the Ares  project, the first mission to Mars", or " The first Canadian satellite is launched into orbit" and "The CSA starts looking into building a space station and/or bases on the Moon and Mars" finaly: "A launch pad is built in Newfoundland. Another is built on Baffin Island." So I asume the capability Canada lacks are the probes, so the other ideas still works? Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 20:40, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, ok I will try to be more plausible with that, (sorry I steal your country). Thanks, I really like Star Wars, and not every day you find a steampunk R-2. Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 20:56, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, USA, the country that every kind of alien race wants to invade, good luck with that, USA and URSS are the prime targets in any war. ''Your arrogance blinds you Master Yoda, now you will experience the full power of the Dark Side. ''I have a question, what happened with the crashed soram ships?. Bauglir Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All (talk) 21:12, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, sorry I'm late, I'm back and ready to talk game. Meet on the talkpage? CourageousLife (talk) 01:36, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

A) It's not war, smart ass.

B) Thank you for turning a civil disscussion into a full on argument.

C) And when do you get the Allies? We won't touch them.

The Royal Guns (talk) 13:44, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Can I redo my post? More than two-thirds of my post has been either retconned, or makes no sense. Stewdio333 (talk) 13:52, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

The Polaran Pics
The answer to your question on the pictures. The one with the planet is suppose to be the Forerunners from Halo building a shield world. The other is from an artist I forgot the name of. They came from two seperate pictures, but I cut and pasted them over each other. And the third is from a Necris mod for Unreal Tournament that never made saw the light of day. The guy making it got banned, and he soon later disappeared. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 23:54, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

"So deal with it. You'll be crushed under our boots into the dirt. "

Really civil.

You know, this is stupid. It's an effing game. Let's both just calm down, scraw.

The Royal Guns (talk) 11:01, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Blog Jokes
Should I feel bad about joking about Dean on his blog? I mean, I've made it clear that I don't like the guy, but at the same time, I feel like mocking him was a little immature on my part. And now, because of his stupid blog, I feel rotten about myself :( CourageousLife (talk) 23:23, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

A Plea of Desperation
Scraw, think!

When the Entente falleth, you knoweth that the pact between the Muscovites and the Allies shall fall with it. Without a common enemy, you shall falleth into war once more, but against the Allies, neither you nor we may standeth alone.

Instead, joineth with us! The Allies shall fall, and you may be assured that, as the Entente and the Muscovites are at least equals in military force, no war shall emerge immediately. In fact, you thinketh, I believe, that the Muscovites may be stronger- in which case you would wineth such a war! Sideth not with the Allies, maketh not a short term decision that will screweth you over in the long run. Maketh instead a decision that shall propel your country into not superpowerdom, which you already haveth, but ultrapowerdom, that hegemony over the entire world which no apocalyptic event nor interphrasic alliance may despoil!

My liege, I beseech you!

Carpe Diem! Carpe Mundum!

The Royal Guns (talk) 05:16, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

No! Think about your friend, Persia! We got oil! (Also, can I join the allies?) Stewdio333 (talk) 05:40, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Consider once more, My liege. 'Tis true enough that the victors of any war shall fighteth. But shall you not fareth better against an opponent equivalent to you?

Carpe Diem, My liege! Sieze the Day! Carpe Mundum, my liege! Sieze the World! Carpe Per Diem, My liege! Sieze the Cash!

The Royal Guns (talk) 05:44, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Who be this informal scoundrel, whom calleth himself Stewdio333! Speak like a man of bearing, sir, or speaketh not at all!

jk.

The Royal Guns (talk) 05:47, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Issue
The past two days have been..interesting to say the very least. This whole fight crap is annoying and i want to end it so we can all go back to peace. It was alot better before wouldnt you agree? in VRR your plans are fine but don't expect to hold eastern Europe or Persia for long(just saying because the people there would have resisted any attempts at assimilation/Islamifying-save for Bosnia but they will become nationalistic anyway). I want this to end, it's definitely not fun. Out of good faith i plan to leave Carpe Diem. I apologize for all the other stuff that i've said. What says you? Let me know i need to plan out a couple things for VRR.AP (talk) 05:56, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Persians would eventually tire of foreign rule, so would eastern Europe. The commonwealth thing would be a good idea but only if they were culturally/ethnicly similar like the situation with Brits/Aussies/Canadians. Otherwise they will leave the Commonwealth like India and Pakistan did-they left the Brit Commonwealth of nations and become republics instead. Remember that the Balkans have always been politically unstable. Now, for VRR. As we head closer to the 1900s, there are questions. Would there be world wars? Depressions?Fascists?Communists?AP (talk) 06:19, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, i'll check out the possibilities as the century progresses. Anyways good day sir, it is darn late here in Mexico.later.AP (talk) 06:28, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yoda and Co.
If you're Yoda, doesn't that make me Darth Sidious? In which case Courageous is Obi Wan, right?

Damn you, Jack Sparrow! You shall regret this, forsooth.

Yeah, that's a lie.

The Royal Guns (talk) 08:10, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Vader is Commander, and Luke is RWG.

The Royal Guns (talk) 08:25, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can I be Mace Windu?

Stewdio333 (talk) 08:36, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sure!

Ok, so now:

You're Yoda, I'm Sidious, Commander is Vader, Courageous is Obi Wan, Stewdio is Mace... though I agree with Scraw, you'd be a better Bail, Walrus is Luke, David is Han, and RWG is Jar Jar. Octiman, I guess, is Grand Moff Tarkin, since AP decided to leave.

Hey, but I win against you! ... So Britain stands alone. But later, Prussia shall rise from the ashes and destroy America!... And then somehow Mexico will kill both of us.

I don't see this as viable.

The Royal Guns (talk) 09:25, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

We decided that I was Bail Organa, so that Guns and CommanderOfTheFourthReich (who's Skywalker.Vader) wouldn't end up killing me. Stewdio333 (talk) 20:56, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

I like it. However we should keep our options open, we'll see what happens later on in the century. Anyways i have to go, i got back home from Mexico around 2 pm today and i have to catch up on all this ap US history stuff. I will start the next turn before i go.AP (talk) 04:24, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Jokes
This community needs more humor.

I'm going to start a page for jokes! I want this to be editable by everyone, but it's not Althist, so...

Any suggestions?

The Royal Guns (talk) 07:08, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Imperialism II
Game has begun. --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 20:07, August 17, 2012 (UTC)