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RE: Russia
I'd say that, if in a few turns Lx doesn't post, you can have it. I'm only reluctant to do that now because he never resigned or anything.I just want to make sure that people don't get mad in the game. Monster Pumpkin 21:02, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mars (MaxSysa)
If it is 3/4 the size of Earth, it will approximately be 9000km in diametre and this will lead to its core still being active and being able to sustain ann atmosphere. Think about it!! :P Imperium Guy 21:50, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Triple Entente and stuff...
Can you help moderate this game with me? The Latin American nations and the Ottomans have been posting some implausible things, not to mention, with so many nations involved, it is hard to do all the algorithims involved. I insist that this game be done fairly, and so it requires algorithims.

Also, since Germany is an important nation, can you help out here and post your turns? Thanks.

If you could help in anyway possible, that would be fantastic. Monster Pumpkin 19:51, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

I am currently defending Libya from Italy and attacking Germany's African colonies of Tanzania and Namibia. Can you do alogythms for those? I'm not good at those. RandomWriterGuy 23:21, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil. RandomWriterGuy 23:25, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

the UOSR would like to switch sides and join the Central Powers, Oil would begin to flwo to the CP's as well as troops. The UOSR also wants land, but first things first. UOSR troops can invade Russia to.

DeanSims 23:15, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, if you can go onto the algorithm page, I really think that your change to my algorithm isn't plausible. Gemralts 23:42, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5
Scaw, can you do me a favor and play as Arkansas because I am trying to interact with them. Thanks CourageousLife 23:40, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies: Reloaded (Map Game)
things are geting active in Latin America and Asia, so a move by New Zealand in Axis vs Allies: Reloaded (Map Game) would be much apriciated.90.244.92.186 12:44, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

what was wrong with my post?????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DeanSims 19:24, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

farewell, im done with this wiki. DeanSims 19:27, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Dean
I'll keep an eye on things. Got me as to what his problem is right now, but he really needs to calm down. As for the protection, it's very temporary. Lordganon 19:47, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why, lol. Add to that that the wiki is already a democracy, and he knows it, lol. Lordganon 19:56, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

....And there was the vandalism. Two-hour block for calming down. Lordganon 20:02, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome! ^^; By the way, I like the flags that you made on your Reign of Roosevelt time-line. -Kogasa 20:17, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Article Names
SS, please quit renaming those things. The timeline, however misspelled, is called "Hapsburg's Unite" and would stay that way. Lordganon 22:36, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

in States of America 5, can a Mexican Civil War start and I take over a couple of northern Mexican states to form a new nation? DeanSims 18:01, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

i mean since Mexico has a civil war like every 50 years or so can Sonora, Chihuahua. Baja California, Coahuila, Durango, Nuevo Leon, and Tamalupes decalre indpenace as the North Mexican Republic? Mexico has very comon Civil Wars when you come to think about it. DeanSims 18:13, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

ok, i accept. DeanSims 18:29, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Fractured Europe (Map Game
I just created a map game called Fractured Europe and I was wondering if you wanted to play and/or be a mod. CommanderOfTheFourthReich 18:39, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

BFER (Map game)
If you don't play in Battle for Earth Revised, the mods reserve the right to remove you. SPQR 19:29, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I am new to the Wiki, but I think I know how everything works. Do you mind if I play as Belgium and side with the Germans, or..? Blocky858 22:09, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
I didn't know that we couldn't add articles to an alternity. I never meant for copyright!

AJ1776AJ1776 21:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Blocky858 01:03, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

What about Switzerland, Holland, Denmark, or Bulgaria? Who are they all allied with?

What about Romania and Greece? Blocky858 23:22, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. you've really helped. :D I'd like to switch to Bulgaria if you don't mind. Blocky858 23:33, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Any suggestions on how to get started? BTW, what are Bulgaria's stats, and who are currently winning the war?

Interesting. What should I do for my first turn? I'd like to attack Serbia if I can. Blocky858 00:02, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm confused about the Algorithm. :/, and how do I put that I try and attack someone?

Ok, I get the LocatIon, 3 for me, and 5 for them, right? Strength, I don't know if they have allies there, I don't know who has the best industry or greater population, I don't know who has the biggest armies, Advantage I get, except I am not sure about the desert part, I got 17 on the Random.org thing, and I'Ve read that at the start of the war Bulgaria was in bad shape in the beginning, so I am thinking either political or economical cause? Blocky858 00:51, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think I did it right, and by what I have, I lost the battle by a point. D: Blocky858 01:10, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Who won the battle? I see someone took my algorithm out. : / Blocky858 01:27, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I don't post again until tommorrow then? Blocky858 01:33, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for joining my map game! :D Blocky858 02:06, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

On motive, DOES Serbia get an 8? I just thought that because provoked. If an invader invades, motive doesn't matter for the defense maybe? If so, then the Bulgarians won the battle. Blocky858 20:42, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

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... Blocky858 00:36, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then. That means I won the battle. Blocky858 01:14, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I started 1907.5 for us, and posted another invasion which I won. Only Northern Serbia to take now! :) Blocky858 01:25, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

What is all this hussle bussel about with a peace treaty? I'm just getting started! I've already taken most of Serbia and have sent troops and supplies to the AH and Germany. I will NOT back down if Germany and AH surrender. I want to control my little area. (Can I declare war on Greece?)

If I am sending help to Germany and the AH, will they eventually push back the Allies,and my next target will be Romania after Serbia falls. >:D Blocky858 02:27, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

After I take Serbia, can I annex it? Blocky858 19:52, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

PM
Hey Scraw, I know you like map games, so how come you don't play Principia Moderni? Its like the most famous map game on the Wiki! VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:04, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

You wouldn't be ruining it, you'd be making it better! The more player nations means more interactions and such, and content for the timeline which is going to be written at the end of it all (well it'll probably be written). Besides there's some big nations which don't have any players, e.g. the Spanish states or Denmark-Norway. If you were going to join, I'd go for Denmark as they are a large nation who control Norway, Greenland and northern Canada. But I do hope you join! VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 12:26, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Glad to see you've joined, word to the wise the map gets updated every 5 years meaning the current map is accurate as at the start of 1895, your nation will be added to the map in 1900. Feel free to ask me about any other things in PM your confused about :)

Glad to have you aboard, VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:36, May 12, 2012 (UTC).

I defeated Serbia, but how do I annex them exactly? Blocky858 18:59, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Why not? Blocky858 19:15, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

SOA5
Hey, could you check out the Mod Page for SOA5? I need to talk to you and Crim. Thanks CourageousLife 21:39, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Scraw, my map is fixed! Theres nothing wrong with it! CourageousLife 22:48, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ok I agree to your demand and etc. and who got angry at me for using Veracruzano, the denomyn for people of Veracruz and called me Hitler!

Its ok. People get stressed and i know that gulf nationalism is implausible but it would be cool. And china's real name is the peoples republic of china. i hate communists.

Wanna help me make a map game that hopefully goes smoothly. What should be the theme? I like the idea of the celts fighting back the saxons. Ireland unifys earlier in time and holds back the english, as they would have a good position to colonize North America. Maybe the natives hold off the europeans.

I like your idea exept a Iroquois Confederacy, Pueblo Confederacy, Huron-Cree Union, and Inuit Empire maybe?

I like your idea exept a Iroquois Confederacy, Pueblo Confederacy, Huron-Cree Union, and Inuit Empire maybe? Willster22 22:49, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding "You Are Here"
My apologies for any offense caused by the categorization. I saw the discussion on the talk page, and I thought it counted as an agreement that it was ASB.

My apologies for my own confusion.

SpanishSpy 02:31, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Customized Signature
SS, I am helping a new user who wants to customize his signature. I know I have seen a template or something that allows this so that the signature button (or tildes) produces such a signature. However, I cannot find this resource. You have a signature that I assume is automatic and very much different from your user name, so I figured if anyone knew this, it would be you.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give me on this. SouthWriter 17:32, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Map Games
I appreciate you joining my map games. Any idea how to make more people come to them? Blocky858 20:01, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

On the talk page, what do you think about my Peace Treaty? Blocky858 21:39, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Custom Signature (test)
Hi, SS. New section which you can erase with no ill will! Thank you again for your help. Here is my signature with "talk" link added. SouthWriter (talk) 16:40, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

League of Nations Charter:
It looks very promising, i like it. Good job. octiman10 23:43, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hi I'm new to this wiki and I joined your "The War That Came Early" game as Serbia. I'm familiar with the Balkans region and figured that playing as Serbia won't get me in trouble with anyone. I skimmed through game and saw that World War I ended, so I don't have to worry as much, right? Anyways, who are my allies and enemies? I read the few last posts. It seems Bulgaria and Greece are in a dispute? I've looked at the map and it seems my neighbors are Greece, Bulgaria, Austria, Macedonia and Albania. Which one of them are my greatest threat/ally? Since I am new, I want to get up on the right step and know who I should look out for and who I should keep at my side forever. I will also be quick to accept peace treaties, as I just want a small country that is rather insignificant and won't be fought over as much, and a peacegul way for my Serbians. :) Momkoo 20:57, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

So basically, I'm somewhat an enemy of Austria-Hungary? And since you said that almost everyone was my ally, I'm taking that I shouldn't worry that much about Bulgaria? Also, because they occupied Serbia, will there still be Bulgarian people in the country who will rebel? PS, your welcome. Momkoo 22:02, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Should I increase my relations with Bulgaria and then train more men? Also, how many men did I have during the start of the war, and how many did I lose? How many do I have now? Just an estimate. Momkoo 22:34, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

The Money Issue
Fine. RandomWriterGuy 23:44, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I'm new to the wiki. Playing on The War That Came Early as Romania. Any enemies/allies I should know about? How many troops do I have?

Then I'm gonna declare war with Bulgaria!!!! DownfallParodies123 00:58, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

League of Nations Charter
your charter is looking really good, we should add more, but do you mind if we copy and paste it into the charter section of the page? octiman10 01:46, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

As I am a "newbie" what map scenario that is constantly updated would you reconmend?Andr3w777 21:29, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

I think I REALLY screwed the war up. D: DownfallParodies123 22:40, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

I was curious because as I do not know much about map games (just signed up today) I wanted to make sure I wouldn't piss anyone off by making a newb mistake. I know a lot about actual history (as it is my major) but not on how to properly deviate or mesh things together.

The War That Came Early
Hey Scraw, i was wondering if you could make me official mod 7 in the game because the guy im doing back-up for is never on. Thanks -AP

Is it possible to produce a new map for Fractured America, many of the other nations are complaining. Someone mentioned on my post that japan stays isolationist until 1890's, but OTL Japan over throws Tokugawa during the Meiji Reformations in 1863-1869 which ends isolationist foreign policy, therefor I should still be good right?Andr3w777 16:28, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Wait if he's biased, how the heck am I gonna grow? who's gonna stop him from trying to seize my lands? I understand that I can't edit the past, what I'm confused about is that it is 1871, 3 years after the revolution yet people keep saying I'm supposed to by isolationist. I am not. I will broker trade agreements and alliances(within reason)Andr3w777 17:45, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

So I should begin to prepare with future conflicts with Cali? I have already asked Britain for a meeting to discuss political matters, I think I'll also invite youAndr3w777 17:52, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

I have decided that the meeting between Japan, Britain and the USA will occur in Kyoto at the Imperial Courts. We will talk trade, and also discuss world allegiances as well as assurances of protection against California should they attempt to attack. Andr3w777 18:28, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

You are labeled as one of the mapmakers for Fractured. Why can't you just override this Dean guy on the map thing? It is really annoying that nobody can continue until the map issue is resolved. Japan had to join the strike for crying out loud.(not your fault i'm sure) Andr3w777 21:04, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Right of Usage
Greetings.

Can I have your permission to use the Regenetech Empire in a timeline that I am working on in the Future Wiki? Several other players of Battle For Earth have already agreed to let me use their race. You will be credited.

Monster Pumpkin 03:36, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Lol. I know, Crimson already said that there were many messages titled like this. I just want to make sure that no one gets mad. You can contribute yourself if you want to. Monster Pumpkin 03:41, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Broken Eagle (Map Game) REPLY
Ok, I saw what you wrote on my page about my Map Game. I based the rules on the FIRST map game, because I am a newb at this (The rules aren't too complex on the first one). The "go after 2 people" rule prevents one person from monopolizing the match, and doing too much damage. If there aren't enough people, I'll work something out. I read the guide, and it said that althists ARE allowed to go into the future, as long as they have a POD in the past. If I am wrong, I'll just set the end to 2012.

(I would love it if you would join my Map Game)

So tococopper proposed freezing fractured until all problem are resolved. It would suck for the game to go defunct so soon after I joined it. Also, I love your Roman/American flag thing. Tis pretty cool. Andr3w777 18:05, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

I changed the end time to the present year.

Hey Scraw, you might want to check out PM before Denmark gets invaded. All you got to do is side with Berlin against UGS, and get Finland, Berlin and Wales against the invasion of Denmark by Russia. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:51, May 27, 2012 (UTC).

Good thinking Me and Berlin were talking(I had no idea Denmark was yours) they planned to invade and offered support to my nation against Britain if I agreed. I'm still uncertain I don't have much a military so me helping them is one sided. But they have the military strength I need. I am so lost I need to think about this. Andr3w777 00:04, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well you already have a nation, and there's still plenty of NPCs left over to take over so I don't think you'd be allowed. But if you made a good enough case on the talk page, you never know... But I doubt it. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 13:32, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I really don't want to declare war on you so could you please respond to my offer in Principia Moderni? EzraNYC 15:01, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I posted a Political Compass of myself, and would like to ask you what I would be politically wise?

What does it mean when it says "Defunct Map Game" ..? Blocky858 17:12, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. But I'm on a few map games that are labeled Defunct but people still play.

PM
The Eesti Vabariik (Finnish vassal), the Shogunate of Kōshi, and the Republic of Kazami (Shogunate of Kōshi's puppet state) will be able to help you. Also, Empress Kaija Tanaka of the Shogunate of Kōshi had offered you an alliance and help in case you didn't notice.

However, Finland itself won't be able to help, as Shogun Toyotama Jaakkola of Finland will remain neutral and stay out of the war, in respect of Empress Yuyuko Seppänen (also, during Swedens existence Sweden has had many wars against Russia and Finland got caught between; and the Finns got sick and tired of all the Northern Wars, and now the Finns just want peace). -Kogasa 18:35, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

All I want is that penninsula. It's rather important to me. EzraNYC 20:13, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

A) I have several motives for it that I am not willing to disclose. B) I don't think so, it's Berlin and Austria and possibly Russia against you. EzraNYC 20:19, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

A: You'll lose support if you don't tell your allies why they're fighting so hard. B: It's Denmark, Wales, most of Finland's puppets and vassals, and possibly the UGS against your forces. Also we could possibly gather the enemies you've picked up over the years.

A) Austria is fighting because they are loyal to me. Russia has its own reasons for fighting. B) Wales is not on your side! Have you looked at PM lately? They apologized to me and decided to stay neutral. Why the hell would Finland get involved and the UGS is not fighting us, we are in a 10 year non-agression treaty! EzraNYC 20:30, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

YES! I have! You haven't. Wales is also in an alliance with me! Right from PM: '''I (Wales) made a mistake earlier on, I am new to Map Games and did not understand certain aspects, now I have unintentionally back-stabbed an ally over this stupid war. I will remain neutral and apologize to Berlin, my ally, it will not happen again. Also Denmark, I am sorry for messing up by allying myself to you AND Berlin. I was thinking last night that you two might become allies(at least temporarily). So I made a mistake that has harmed both your nations, I apologize sincerely to the both of you and hope this war ends soon.'''

There you go EzraNYC 20:37, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Your being foolishly idiotic. I don't think you understand this game and you obviously don't know how to comprehend a sentence. Your freaking out now because you are going to loose. No point in further arguing with you as you are clearly in denial. Good day. EzraNYC 21:03, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry about all this confusion. It is unfortunate that Ezra and you are still in conflict. Wales is in a delicate position and my nation is more than a little confused. France said on PM that they will remain neutral in one post, the in another the opposite was said, Wales had an alliance with the both of you in hopes that war would be avoided. I was so wrong. Andr3w777 21:17, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to convince him. I'm sorry, thank you for intervene in this matter. --Galaguerra1 21:27, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Wales proposes the European Council. A committee of nations similar to NATO or the EU to help protect Europe from another war like this. Obviously this war must end first, but I propose that it be headed up by(at least initially) Wales and France. We can discuss how to set it up later. what is important is the protection of Europe.Andr3w777 21:44, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

How do you become a mod? sasafred

Universal (map game)
I'm afraid I'm confused about the use of the "ASB - Map Game" category. I thought it was for map games that are ASB (Universal is ASB already - ASB - Technology). Am I mistaken?

Thanks,

SpanishSpy 22:17, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Depressing Times
My Depressing Times Map Game has begun!

May I join the Depressing Times? Andr3w777 23:03, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Can someone add Ireland to the map in DT? its my nation Andr3w777 23:17, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Not you France. I support you, but oh well Whatever, Peace is all that matters now. Andr3w777 23:40, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Um, Berlin just invaded you btw, The European Council will have its first meeting in neutral London, we will discuss you and Berlins admittance. Hopefully this danged war will end. Andr3w777 00:12, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

I have left a message with the head mod in pertaining to your plight, hopefully he'll respond. In the meantime will you join the EC in London at the end of this turn? Andr3w777 03:25, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Just to let know, but Shogunate of Kōshi and the Republic of Kazami (Shogunate of Kōshi's puppet state) are both independent nations and are not puppets/vassals of Finland (though Kōshi was formerly a Finnish colony until 1875, and Republic of Kazami was a Finnish puppet state until it was transferred to Kōshi, becoming a Kōshi puppet in 1879). However, Eesti Vabariik is a vassal of Finland. Though I'd clarify. -Kogasa 03:26, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

You may rely fully on the Welsh military for aid against Berlin. We hereby offer 100 Dragon B1 heavy bombers as well as 50 Cornwall AT 1 tanks to you as well as condolences. We had hoped to avoid war, now let us war together to ensure peace in Europe. Andr3w777 21:16, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Humaniy, Awake!
It has started!

Can I be a mod in Humanity Awake! ? Andr3w777 00:25, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Can I assume you will meet the other European nations in Cardiff, Wales for the EC summit. Also I am influencing recently liberated Federal Republic of Ireland to be a part of the Pan Celtic Union, which will merge Ireland with Wales. Can I also assume your assistance with this? Andr3w777 01:52, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Um tell me, is siding with one ally, whom was senselessly attacked, backstabbing the other? I had to make a decision and I choose to aid Denmark, was that wrong. Does the world see Wales as a flip flopper or as an unwilling participant? EzraNYC continues to say I betrayed him. Immediately I should have stayed neutral but I honestly believed that it was my duty to side with Denmark. I would have done the same if Berlin was invaded. Andr3w777 18:32, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Berlin has propsed a treaty called Treaty of Cardiff (Principia Moderni) in which all traditionally German land is given. You get to keep the Denmark peninsula except the southernmost part which is OTL Schleswig Holstein, in modern Germany. I encourage you to sign the treaty, Nippon backs it and Wales has officially approved. Andr3w777 20:26, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

?? What's going on I was out for a while why did you post that allies fight and side with the defender? I did that I am lost. Was Guten Morgen in Deutsch?? Andr3w777 22:52, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I know what Guten Morgen means German is my first language, I was just asking why it was used. I should have use Warum. Andr3w777 23:00, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Norway is still an NPC nation right? How is the algorithm done for fighting NPC's? I m curious because Wales would like expand and Norway seems like a good idea. Of course you'll get a sizable portion as they were once yours. If Norway is not possible then what about South Ireland? Andr3w777 23:36, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Tried that approach Vietnam told me it was more or les impossible for me to own Ireland despite them being free.

Do you accept the treaty? Or is the war going to go on and drag Europe into another depression?Andr3w777 00:04, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Very well, I'll try to get Vietnam's support. Andr3w777 00:10, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

I'm acraid you don't understand. Now that I've won you can't change it. An eqation will be made to decide how much land of yours I can annex and then I get to choose how long the war last. Thats how wars work in this game. The loosing side cant just make it go on how long they want it too. EzraNYC 00:16, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thats not how it works but anyways, you asked what I want: I told you man, I just want the danish controlled germany areas. Thats it. EzraNYC 00:40, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Why is the war still going on didn't we lose according to the algorithm? or is that just the invasion? Vietnam rejected to help so unless you pull a miracle this war will not end well. Andr3w777 00:53, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe in the real world it does but not in these games. Anyways, the german part you have is called Schelsten-Holstein (mispelled). Compare the real world map and this map an youll see. EzraNYC 00:59, May 31, 2012 (UTC) actually spelled Schleswig-Holstein Andr3w777 01:02, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Peace at last! And thats what it said in the treaty you know so could you just sign it so it could finally be official? EzraNYC 01:06, May 31, 2012 (UTC)