User:FirstStooge/Kotak Pasir

Finally, my very own place to express my own ideas and my thought to expand my ultimate timeline: Myomi Republic (and everything that doesn't related with my timeline(s)).

Soviet Union and Russia in Myomi
When I'm started to writing the Soviet Union, I never thought for save the Soviet with making it never governed by Stalin. At the same time, I already wrote a page about Russia in my timeline.

Of course, this will change my timeline so much. But, since I prefer the Soviet Union over Russia, I decided to merge my ATL Russia into the Soviet at the time I finished the World War II for my timeline.

My reason is simple: without Stalin, there is no Soviet authoritarian political system. Without authoritarian political system, Soviet will develops its own democratic mechanism. With democratic mechanism, Soviet will not easily being influenced by Western democracy, making it a worthy rival for the United States and the United Kingdom, and not easily break apart by ethnic nationalism. Soviet also will being not too much aggressive as in OTL, except toward Finland and Poland, for pursuing a hegemony in Eastern and Southeastern Europe.

There will be no the Great Purge. Okay, party purges still exist but without *there* cruelty and mass terror will still swept the country but will focused more to the dissident organizations and organized religions.

There will be no mass deportations over various Soviet nationalities. The deportations are still occured, but not as a mass one.

A Czech federal state in Myomi
I planned to create a Czech federal republic for my Myomi TL based on three historical regions of Czech lands: Bohemia, Moravia, and Czech Silesia after the World War II since Slovakia already broken up from Czechoslovakia.

There are six possible names of the Federation:
 * Czechia
 * Czech Federation
 * Bohemia-Moravia (first possible name)
 * Bohemoravia
 * Moravo-Bohemia (second possible name)
 * Czechland

The flag of the Federation supposed being a combination of the flag colours of the three regions: Red or White (represent Bohemia), Yellow (represent Moravia) and Black (represent Czech Silesia) with the country's coat of arms at the centre of the flag.

Okay, as this timeline getting progressed toward the World War II, a Czech federal state that I imagined slowly came to fruition. Bohemia-Moravia is strong possible name for my alternate Czech Republic that will went through a political and military protection of the Third Reich from 1939 to 1989, exactly for 20 50 years until the latter regime collapsed and democracy restored in Bohemia-Moravia

Poland and Ukraine in Myomi
My discussion with Lordganon led me to make a conclusion about Poland and Ukraine on my ATL:


 * "The establishment of Second Polish Republic and the independence of Ukraine in 1920 actually was absolutely unstable by surrounded between by two great powers: Germany and the Soviet Union. The independence of Ukraine during Interbellum years was only guaranteed by Poland, while the independence of Poland itself only guaranteed by the British and the French.


 * Both countries only awaited their time for being torn part by both Germany and the Soviet Union. The thing gone worse after Hitler the Nazis rose to power. To the east and to the west, Poland had no ally. Poland had been put into an irony: If they conquered by Germany, they will lost their freedom. If they conquered by the Soviet, they will lost their souls.


 * When an armageddon broke out in 1939, Poland had nothing to do. German invasion on September 1, 1939 ended the Polish independence. Even without Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact-like cooperation like occured in our timeline, Soviet would took this opportunity by breaking the Soviet-Polish Non-Aggression Pact and justified its invasion toward Polish state as a defensive act.


 * Without Poland on the board, Soviet would invaded and occupied Ukraine. Unlike Finland, Ukraine had no similar unified nationalist spirit. Ukrainian nationalists mostly against the Polish occupation over Western Ukraine and found their only ally was the Ukrainian communists and its superior, the Soviet Union. Soviet invasion only to be warmly welcomed by the Ukrainians as the act of liberation  That would be so easy for Soviet to establish a soviet socialist republic in Ukraine and incorporated it to the Union with that popular support


 * Different story would took part in Poland. While the Polish army that under the government-in-exile joined the Allies in the West, another Polish forces fought against the Germans under the Red Army command created by the Soviet. Poland, which situated within the proposed Soviet sphere of influences, now only two option:
 * Retain its independence but fallen under the Soviet influences like OTL Poland did
 * Join the USSR as the Polish Soviet Socialist Republic
 * Of course, the Polish resistance movement would only choose the first option as the second one would unlikely being accepted by the Polish exiled government in London.

to be continued...

Partition of Germany
There are my plans for the Partition of Germany by the Allies after World War II in Myomi Republic:

East Germany will consisted the regions of Germany between Germany eastern border with Poland and River Elbe. Following former pre-war German states that will being a part of Soviet zone:


 * Prussia


 * Brandenburg
 * East Berlin
 * Pomerania
 * Upper Silesia and Lower Silesia. The region in two provinces between river Oder and German-Polish pre-war border, including Breslau (today Wroclaw) will included to Poland
 * Eastern part of Saxony between Saxony original border with Bradenburg and river Elbe and river Saale, including area 15 km from Haale
 * Eastern part of Anhalt. The smaller, western part of Anhalt will being a part of West Germany
 * Saxony.
 * Thuringia, between state original border with Saxony and river Saale
 * Eastern part of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, including Lake Müritz
 * Mecklenburg-Strelitz

A different United States in Myomi
There are some difficulties for me as being a non-U.S, citizen and never learning U.S history before to write further an alternative history about the country for my timeline. However, in my exploration, I found some interesting bits on the U.S history that I want to explore and process it on my timeline. First, let me bring an overview about Henry Clay nomination at the 1844 U.S. Presidential election.
 * 1) Henry Clay's Presidential Nomination
 * 2) The Southern Secession and the Confederacy
 * 3) The Manifest Destiny (Texas and Oregon)
 * 4) Teddy Roosevelt's Progressive Party
 * 5) Huey Long's Presidential Nomination
 * 6) Henry Wallace's Presidential Nomination


 * Clay defeated by James K. Polk by only 39,490 popular votes and 65 electoral votes, while lost his 62,103 potential votes that voted for Liberty Party candidate, James G. Birney. Birney nomination brought an indirect significant effect for Clay. While Clay lost only 8468 of votes with Polk in New York and Michigan, Birney gained 19,451 votes in both states, the votes that would made Clay got 41 electoral votes. If Birney never been nominated by the Liberty Party in OTL (My solution: I will get him beautifully shot through his skull, to make sure this gonna be a dirty war in 1861..."LET'S KILL HIM, BOY!!!!"), it will became a very narrow victory for Clay with 146-129.


 * Clay opposition toward the annexation of Texas would be a main POD if he was elected to the office. Maybe it would not triggered the Civil War like happened on Lincoln electoral victory, but with Clay as the U.S. President, a time bomb already set up in the South, waiting for explode and rebel against the Union.


 * Clay maybe not nixed the annexation process and Texas would still joined the Union, but probably he would avoid OTL Mexican-American War by negotiate with Mexico about Texas agreeable boundary between two countries, the same way Polk did to solve Oregon Dispute with the British. For Polk and his Oregon Treaty, that doesn't bother the Northern expansionists, but for Clay and his "Texas Treaty", that's mean a war for the Southern expansionists. The Southerners will demand more and more in a new Compromise in 18XX and with such as the damned Compromise, the force of abolitionists would grew bigger and bigger too.


 * Pro-slavery Southerners will divided between pro-Compromise camp, a camp that still want to retain the Union and anti-Compromise camp, a camp that supported a secession of Southern states from the Union. In a period between Clay Presidency and Lincoln Presidency, the anti-Compromise camp will prepare for any possibility to secede from the United States and became more organized, like a sort of political party, than just being OTL Fire-Eaters.

Second, I will gave a possibility of the Confederate "success" (not a victory) in the Civil War to achieve their goal of independence


 * Like in our timeline, Lincoln electoral victory will only resulted to the declaration of the Confederate States independence and triggered a war of seccession by the Southern slave states. The only differences between the Civil War in OTL and in my ATL are the political preparation on the Southern government that developed since the Compromise of 18XX and the Northern expansionists and the abolitionists that viewed the Southerners for being against the liberty and the manifest destiny. The abolitionists now thought with only let the Southerners go from the Union, the true ideas and true aims of the Declaration of Independence can truly realized. No matter how weak was the Confederate army, the abolitionists will pushed the government to recognize the Confederate government (That will better to sacrifice the Union than to sacrifice the liberty)

Third, the Oregon Question.


 * I have a hypothesis that with Clay as a president, the Oregon boundary dispute would not being solved as Polk did in OTL and delayed for being solved even after the War of Secession. There would be an open possibility to have a more agressive man that could revived the issue about Oregon after the war and I prefer Theodore Roosevelt Ulysses S. Grant for being that man...

Fourth, a new Party System in America with the Progressive Party and the Republican Party.


 * After the War, only Republicans and smaller abolitionists that will left in American political stage, which of course the Republicans will dominated the Congress and the Presidency and the dominant-party system will occurred in the U.S. Let's says the OTL conflict between Roosevelt and Taft also happened in my timeline, the Progressive Party will formed as a significant political force and created a political balance together with the Republicans that already absent after the secession.


 * We will have Roosevelt as President and Robert La Follete as Vice-President of the United States of America between 1913-1917. If Teddy not seek for a re-election, we will have La Follete as President between 1917-1925. Well, we will have a different view of World War I since Woodrow Wilson never elected to his OTL office (and he was on the Confederacy, since he was born in Virginia) and Roosevelt will steered the U.S into more powerful and influential, more aggressive toward the Central Powers. But it will sparked a genuine conflict between him and La Follete which we known had been vocally opposed American entry to war in OTL. Well, I guess it gonna be pretty difficult for me to solve it


 * Okay, I guess I made a mistake above...We must have Roosevelt as President from 1913 until his death in 1919 (lets have John M. Parker continued Teddy's remaining term!) to get the United States as a Great Power during the World War. Like I said before (above), Roosevelt will steered the U.S into more powerful and influential, more aggressive toward the Central Powers. But, La Folette will definitely stayed in the Republicans instead of joined the Progressives or supported by other smaller parties as presidential nomination for the elections of 1912, 1916 and 1920. But, there will be still some possibility for La Follete to run as Teddy's Vice-President in my TL... I got the possibility!

Fifth, with the South governed themselves, let's make Huey Long a FDR-like figure in the Confederacy!


 * In 1930s, there were almost none of every nations in the world that not suffered the Great Depression. In this case, even the Confederacy in my OTL cannot avoided the malaise and economic crisis during the Depression. I say, where's the nation in this world at that time who not wanted to get out from the crisis, neglected their country into succumbed into poverty and anarchy. Each nation in the world searched for their own solution to battle with the Depression and there was always a strong figure behind that solution.


 * The United States of America had Frankin Delano Roosevelt as the main force of New Deal, an economic policy that saved a millions of U.S. citizens from unemployment and starvation and saved the country to run into chaos and amok.But for this timeline, there was also the Confederate States stood in the world, at the south of the United States that had its economy ruined due to the Depression, nearly bankrupt and its living standards decreased abruptly. We need a strong figure in the South like I said before and I choose Huey Long, the governor of the sovereign state of Louisiana as those figure...

Sixth, let's make a way for Henry A. Wallace to become a U.S President


 * Since in my TL there are no Democrats, I planned to make Fiorello La Guardia to run as the New York representative from the Progressives. With him in one political bloc together with FDR (as being planned on my TL), there will be more open possibility for La Guardia being nominated as FDR replacement in 1944. Let's says Roosevelt didn't seek a re-election in 1944, we will have La Guardia as the U.S President until his death in 1947. But, who will being La Guardia's Vice-President? Well, just put the Secretary of Agriculture, Henry A. Wallace, into Progressive nomination ticket in 1944 with La Guardia, we will had the former as the U.S President from 1947 to 1949 in the time where U.S. already shaped its international politics and left no possibility to being distorted toward the Soviet (even if the Soviet being more moderate as in my TL, the Cold War must happened!)


 * Well, I will make it simple...

Planned TL Adoption
I felt I want to adopt some potential timelines. Well, a timeline adoption is a great challenge for me to expand its into this wiki standard and I will more considering about it later. There are some timelines below that I felt for being still raw and potential for me to improve it (with my own styles, of course...)
 * A Single Vote
 * A Violent Peace
 * Chinese Empire (Hlanus get it first...and he caught for change its contents, aaah!!! wanna adoption rule!)
 * Gekíje
 * Majors Mistake
 * Temujin's Failure

Alternate Language
After read Gekíje, I have some interests to develop a new alternate language either on my recent timeline or in one of my proposed adopted timelines.

List of Presidents of the Confederate States in Myomi

 * 1) Seal_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America.svgRobert Rhett (1860-1867) (Democratic)
 * 2) Jefferson Davis (1867-1873) (Democratic)
 * 3) Zebulon Baird Vance (1873-1879) (Conservative)
 * 4) Alexander H. Stephens (1879-1883) (Democratic)
 * 5) William B. Bate (1883-1885) (Patriotic)
 * 6) Zebulon Baird Vance (1885-1891) (Patriotic)
 * 7) Alfred H. Colquitt (1891-1894) (Patriotic)
 * 8) Murphy J. Foster (1894-1897) (Patriotic)
 * 9) Benjamin Ryan Tillman (1897-1903) (Patriotic)
 * 10) Allen D. Candler (1903-1909) (Patriotic)
 * 11) Ellison D. Smith (1909-1915) (Patriotic)
 * 12) Furnifold McLendel Simmons (1915-1921) (Democratic)
 * 13) Ruffin G. Pleasant (1921-1927) (Democratic)
 * 14) Lamartine G. Hardman (1927-1933) (Democratic)
 * 15) Byron D. Harrison (1933-1939) (Democratic)
 * 16) Oliver Max Garner (1939-1945) (Democratic)
 * 17) Eurith D. Rivers (1945-1951) (Democratic)
 * 18) Huey Long. Jr (1951-1963) (Democratic)
 * 19) Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1973) (Democratic)
 * 20) Russell B. Long (1973-1981) (Democratic)
 * 21) Ralph Yarborough (1981-1987) (Democratic)

Reserved ideas for Myomi
more: FirstStooge/Ideas
 * The Federation of Australia AND New Zealand between 1901 to 1946
 * The Kingdom of Hejaz and the Shariffian Caliphate
 * Prevent Islamism
 * Prevent Pan-Arabism
 * Make Hussein bin Ali died earlier and get a British-friendly heir for the title of Caliph, so Hejaz can got a help from the British and survived from the Saudi forces.
 * Mao Zedong's Kokonor Soviet Republic in Qinghai as part of the agreement between the Japanese and the Chinese Communists during the WWII
 * Republic of Illyria, consisted of OTL Slovenia plus Austrian state of Carinthia, Trieste City, Croatian county of Istria, and Croatian islands of Krk and Cres.
 * Zhou Fohai as the leader of anti-Chiang Kuomintang faction in Japan by changes his early life and make him as a Social Nationalist (Great, isn't it?)
 * Hohenzollern Spain. Make it contributed directly to the World War I (done, see Spain page)
 * The anti-interventionist, pro-grassroot democracy Society of Benjamin Franklin on the post-Civil War United States
 * European colonization of Patagonia by the British, the Couronians, the Spanish and the Swedes . (partially done, see Patagonia page)

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