User talk:Mitro

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Future map
Hi Mitro please see my map of the future in my User Page and comment what do you thing should be changed or added. Also might you see how I have improve the Venezuela 1983dd article? please answer me. VENEZUELA 21:45, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

California/Sierra Nevada Argument
Which of the nations do you think deserves to preserve it's border, the Californian Republic (Arstarpool named it that, not me) or the Sierra Nevada Union? I believe that California deserves to be preserved because, as you said on my Republic of Lincoln, the canon nation dosen't have to submit to the demands of a proposal. I think the order in which the articles become proposals is much less important than the order in which they are graduated.

Yankovic270 22:44, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Mitro, welcome back. In your absence I am afraid an ugly disagreement has taken place between me and the authors of the Californian Republic regarding my SNU article. Rather than take up space here explaining, please just read the discussion area on the main page. I am sure you can gather what I have been on the recieving end of from the authors, given what one wrote about me today on your blog earlier. The issue is in mediation awaiting a decision. However, I would like your imput on the subject as well as the nasty behavior by the writers. Thanks. --Fxgentleman 23:17, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I just learned Gopzack issued his decision on the mediation. My request for your imput pertains to what what Mr. Y is referencing in his comments above as well as the nasty behavior from both of the writers. I have to say their recent actions towards me goes against what I thought was the the decorum of the wiki. Thanks again.--Fxgentleman 23:40, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome Back
Its good to have you back here again. While you were gone, well it was one helluva ride. I'd like to think that some of the other contributors and I held this ship together. We have had enough battles to last a life time. Hell your blog is just a small skirmish in the larger fights around these parts. I hope that your presence here will help deal with this crap. If you need any help I'll be glad to support your efforts. --GOPZACK 00:42, July 30, 2010 (UTC):


 * Thank you Mitro, I appreciate your confidence in my abilities. Its funny you mention a code of conduct I mentioned awhile back making a Bill of Rights so we could always combined the two. --GOPZACK 14:55, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand that you have much to do, there is no rush, whenever you have the time is fine. I look forward to getting them. --GOPZACK 15:13, July 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've started a page where proposed rules can be placed. i say we let the debate begin seeing as this cannot go on much longer. --GOPZACK 16:56, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving
Hi Mitro! I've tried to contact the other members of the TSPTF, but none of them have answered me. How do you archive articles?

Eastward Expansion 13:56, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much!

Eastward Expansion 15:26, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Rollback
Hey Mitro, is there a way that I can leave a comment when I rollback an edit? I wanted to the other day but for some reason I couldn't leave a comment. Arstarpool 16:43, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

1962: First Strike
Hi Mitro the creator of this timeline have not improve his timeline since June 2009, might I adopt it? VENEZUELA 02:08, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I already adopt it, ok? VENEZUELA 02:58, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Apology
I'm sorry that me and McG missused such a public sharing space, to talk about a timeline we were never going to make anyway. Yes, please do delete it. In the future we will only use talk pages. So will His Mitroness (that's what everyone else has been calling you, so I suppose I will too) forgive us?

Eastward Expansion 14:44, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Early world war one
Right, seems you have re-directed a few of my pages concerning my time-line in which the Russo-Japanese war expands into an early world war one. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you have changed the names of my pages due to the length of their title. I say this cause as it seems the most logical & I was thinking to myself they could do with shortening; but if this is case that the page title which is causing you to do this, then could you just be polite & ask me to change the title, rather than just doing this yourself. I trust you have checked the new title doesn't of "Early World War I" doesn't clash with anything as an early first world war happens in several articles. I hope you have as I like the simplicity of this new title. Anyway in summary, manners cost nothing, but thanks anyway.

Applogy accepted, also I just forgot to press the signature button before is all --VonGlusenburg 14:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for making that category page for me, I was wondering how to make one. Just wish you mentioned it when you did it cause I've been meaning to make one & then I noticed you made one, thanks for the help :) --VonGlusenburg 21:29, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Something I think your attention should be drawn to
Firstly Mitro, welcome back. Secondly, there is a certain althist that has me most confused on what is to be done with it; this timeline has several things wrong with it, and I am unsure of what your master plan is with regards to it, so if you could clarify, that would be awesome.

Lieutenant Fuhrer Grammar Nazi Jazon Naparleon 22:01, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

RED CZAR
Will you please check out the timeline which I have linked in the title? It is a clear violation of Wikia's "No Cross, No Crown' policy.

Khan of Questioning Eastward Expansion 15:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

TSPTF
Well Mitro, while I am flattered by your offer, and I would love to better the site as a whole rather than one miniscule section of it, I'm afraid I do not meet the requirment of being here for at least six months. Perhaps in November I will, otherwise, I'll stick to what I've been doing.

LTFGN Jazon Naparleon 23:22, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

The Neutrality of France
This TL has only been edited once. Do you mind if I adopt it?

Eastward Expansion 16:46, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

The author doesn't have a user page. And as far as I can tell, he doesn't have a talk page either. Could you help me track him down?

Eastward Expansion 17:14, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Delta Maximus just gave me permission to work on it...

Eastward Expansion 16:25, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
On behalf of all the editors of Choose Your Own Alternate History!, myself, and my two associate-controllers, Azecreth and Jazon Naparleon, I would like to say that your kind words about CYOAH makes all the work put into it worth it!

Again, thank you, and welcome back to the AltHist Wikia!

Tbguy1992 23:15, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Republic of Spain
I haven't been up to speed with the developments here, so I was just curious as to the situation in Spain. Who will actually write the article on the country? Is Tristan going to continue his work on the newly created country? I ask because the former country pages and other articles do not show the change in government.--Vladivostok 16:45, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

I am the author of the Republic of Spain. I am putting the article up for adoption, since I do not have the time or resources to regularly contribute at the moment, but I want the adoptee to know that I will continue to work on the article occasionally. Arstarpool 16:47, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

TSPTF
I am aware that some of my previous behavior could have gotten me removed from the TSPTF. And I have also read that there is a spot open for 2 Lieutenants. I am not here to beg you for a spot, but I want to point something out to you on several things that happened such as my asencion to constable.

When you left the site, there was a time when 1983: Doomsday had essentially died. I don't want to brag but me and Zack helped revive it. When Zack briefly left for a small period I was left as the de facto "caretaker" for 1983: Doomsday, by graduating most of the articles, commenting on talk pages or discussions, etc. That was problably the peak of my "activity" on the site. In fact, I think I had made 1,000 edits in that one week! That was the same week as I recall that I was nominated by three other members for a spot in the TSPTF when I started the discussion on the main talk page of the site. This was around the time when I supposedly "took over the site" as a couple of members stated. According to Oer, Louis and Xi'Reney, and even you (rudely) stated I was not ready and such-other things. Then recently a lot of stuff came up and I donned my "bad attitude" that so many have critized me for.

To be honest, I really don't think that my "attitude" would pose a large threat if I held a seat of power here, but nevertheless I would feel uncomfortable with banning powers. I like cleaning up articles, such as removing future material and nominating some for deletion and such. I like to help out, but at the same time I don't want people to fear me if I were to have banning powers and they got into an argument with me or something. As I stated above I am not here to beg you for a spot but I am just wondering if I am eligable and/or your opinion.

Arstarpool 17:00, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

As I stated above I am not here to ask or beg you for a spot, but at the same time I was wondering on your opinion if I would be eligable or not.

Featured Page
There is one timeline on the featured page, Jimme Perez Venezeula or somthing like that that hasn't been edited in quite a while (I mean the featured page, not the actual timeline) and there aren't any supporters. It might be time to remove it to the archive...

Eastward Expansion 16:34, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have been nominated for TSPTF before, but I do not believe that I'm eligible as I have not yet been here for 6 six months. In two months time, though....

I would love to be a part of the maintanence of this wikia!

Eastward Expansion 16:00, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

no destiny
hi, how did you make the map for this timeline?

k got it and who made the maps (octiman10 19:21, August 9, 2010 (UTC))

k, well thanks anyways, but just curious do you know any good software or programs that make good Maps? (octiman10 19:27, August 9, 2010 (UTC))

k, thanks (octiman10 19:33, August 9, 2010 (UTC))

Sorry about that
I only realized that after I clicked save page. I felt pretty stupid about it. Thanks for the memo, though!

PS: has their been any nominations for Lieutenant yet? If not, I do have an idea, but I'm going to ask for his permission first. Tbguy1992 03:35, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright. I asked, but just have to wait for an answer.


 * BTW, I was wondering if you would want to check out my primary TL French Trafalgar, British Waterloo, and if you could give me some feedback? The TL is starting to hit a few snags, and I would like to get some ideas and suggestions from someone new. If you don't, that's OK, but if you do, could you please give some feedback? Thanks! Tbguy1992 04:46, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Flags
To further organize this wiki, I would like to ask to have permission to make a page with all of the worlds flags I can gather, past or present that may be used in Tl's, so that we don't get repeat uploads, what do you think? I'm aware that we already have a flags page, but it doesn't have the same content that I'm envisioning.--Smallpox 23:04, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I guess my flags page is kind of redundant then, should we just give each real-life nation a meta-page instead?--Smallpox 05:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Also, I noticed that some of your flags are .gif, is it okay if I fix that?--Smallpox 05:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Another thing, I think the pages About Alternate History and What is Althistory? should be merged, you wouldn't mind if I edited some of the other "Topics" pages would you?--Smallpox 18:59, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Estonia
Why did you turn Estonia into proposal if it was graduated long ago. VENEZUELA 21:38, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Mitro, might you please edit the Nordic Union page about the future enlargement? VENEZUELA 21:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Guyana War
Might I gratuate the Guyana War as a stub, i will work on it. VENEZUELA 02:51, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

And now? VENEZUELA 03:40, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Why did yo delete the Guayana Esequiba war from the War page. VENEZUELA 20:12, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Might you help me with the War article? VENEZUELA 20:41, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Owen
Yeah, I suspected as much, but perhaps I let the situation get a little ahead of me. I'll remember this for future. Fegaxeyl 16:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thought you should know that Owen is at it again - He's taken it upon himself to make an article on the "Kingdom of Albion" that is supposed to eventually result from Cleveland and Northumbria. That's Smoggy's work, Owen is overstepping boundaries again.

Lordganon 19:52, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

A Project
Since you helped write the history of the original US and the APA in the Pacific for 1983DD, could you help me with a page I proposed at the very bottom of the 1983DD Talk Page on the Atlantic/Carribean? I am having mega-trouble with finding a computer to work on since mine is broken but with the help of another person I can check on my works less often and when I do I wont be as stressed out. Arstarpool 01:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

making catagories
hi, how do you make catagories in stories? (ex. History, military, politics, etc.) (octiman10 02:17, August 23, 2010 (UTC))

Making Template
Hi, How do I do a template? VENEZUELA 02:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please? VENEZUELA 17:34, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Well I want to create one like the 1983 one which said Wars, Idioms, Religion, bla, bla, bla, .... VENEZUELA 19:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please? VENEZUELA 19:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes! VENEZUELA 19:41, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Mitro, what code? VENEZUELA 22:01, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Central News
Hi, Mitro I will not be in Caracas from Tuesday until September 4, so please might you add the Central News? most of them are from wikipedia. Please Answer me, VENEZUELA 19:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Balochistan
Thanks for fixing that up slightly and graduating it - makes a bit more sense now then the version I fashioned for Ven.

Lordganon 09:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maine
Hey Mitro. Since you made Aroostook, could you help me with a relatively small community in the south of Maine I plan to make called ? If you do your research you will find that Popham was an old British colony, and since the county it is/was located in is very small and out of the way I could see it surviving. Anyways, if you will agree I would like you to help me fill it in and help me with some stuff regarding relations with Aroostook and things like that. Arstarpool 23:21, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that changes a lot. Well anyways, I am making a page on the state of. If you can think of any small communities that can survive, feel free to write it in. Arstarpool 23:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Since you appear to want to fill the article in, do you think there could be any possible, small communities that could exist on the coast or interior? Please get back to me and/or write any on the Maine page. Arstarpool 00:00, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

FTBW
Hey, I know you have been busy lately, but I was still wondering if you could, in your spare time, take a look at French Trafalgar, British Waterloo? I would really like to get your feedback on my TL! Tbguy1992 04:11, August 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I will try to explain my reasoning, but you do bring up some things that maybe I didn't quite think through, so thanks for looking at it!


 * The British let go large parts of their army after 1806, without a major threat to their security, and to try to repair their finances. However, after the American's declared war, they sent a force of ex-Napoleonic Wars soldiers to Canada, with a sprinkling of Regular soldiers to put in with the mix. All together, they sent about 40,000, a lot less than what the regular army would have been if they needed to secure the borders in response to the French Threat. They were only able to rebuild their forces quickly by using veterans they released from the army, many of whom were unemployed at the time (about late 1812). Their navy was spread thin in the Napoleonic Wars, and the French managed to destroy a large fleet of RN ships, but didn't destroy the whole navy, and it would have been nearly impossible to bring the ships from the Mediterranean, the Baltic, Canada, etc, etc, together in time in order to repeal an invasion fleet, so that is when the British sued for peace.


 * You make a good point of Andrew Jackson. I don't completely understand the politicians of the early 1800's in the US, so I went with a name I knew. Would he have maybe been an officer in the army for the War of 1812, leaving Tennessee to join the army, then becoming a war hero, then later the Sec of War then President?


 * The Star-Spangled Banner would have still been used, but the lyrics would be different; more along the lines of standing up to aggression and oppression, and uniting together to fight a common foe, which would have rang a chord with the population after the war, and become popular at rally's, then later created the national anthem in the 1840's-50's.


 * They did create a sorta "Indian Confederacy" in the land they occupied, but later they moved northwards toward what would later be Assiniboia as illegal American immigration pushed them out, and Britain tried to hold back the immigration, but, due to the firepower and number of the immigrants, had to compromise. They would try their best to limit it, but the Oregon territory was soon overwhelmingly American, and they couldn't just kick them out, and their was just to few British army units to cover the entire border.


 * They didn't completely undermine their old policies, but didn't harp on their pro-British bend in the next election, and moved more to the center of the foreign policy equation, almost trying to remain neutral between Britain and France. Rufus King mostly turned the policies around in order to insure the next election in 1816, though he didn't really need to, but he may not have won because of his pro-British policies, which would be very unpopular after being humiliated by the UK.


 * Yeah, but their standing army was mostly just Militia's (right?): this was more like a model of the professional army the US would later become: all volunteer, highly trained, newest weapons, etc. etc. Yes, it would be expanded to over double its current size.


 * I think so, because Russia, after being defeated by Napoleon, would want to try to build up its industry and economy, and would look toward a western nation to help it. Prussia and Britain would be out, as they would only want Russia to provide men in any future war, while keeping their economy reliant on them. France would want a strong power to equalize the threat that Britain and Prussia would pose to them, as with Russia being strong enough to threaten Prussia and Britain in India and other colonial outposts in Asia, that would take of some pressure France would have to deal with, and Russia would welcome the foreign investment, even if that meant that the serf system would have to be dismantled and free-enterprise introduced.


 * It's known by both names, but the Anglo-American War would fall out of use after the Second Americas War.


 * France really doesn't care about Spain's colonial empire, but would have like it if Spain lost its source of power and wealth to threaten them. Britain would have tried to make inroads, but the nationalist movements in Latin America, without the French invasion to occupy the homeland, would be a longer, more devastating struggle, and bring the various nations closer together.


 * Same as above for the Caribbean Confederation: The longer struggle brought them closer together, but would have resulted in a loose confederation: each Island still has immense power, with Cuba being the most powerful. About the only things that link them as a nation is a flag, and army, a combined economy, and a common interest to make sure that European powers can't take over them.


 * Napoleon would have been a more benevolent leader than many would have considered: he knew that by helping the smaller nations, like Italy, Switzerland, Holland and the Confederation of the Rhine would help himself and France as a whole: their economy would buy French products, and their products could help strengthen France, while making them more dependent on France, and loyal to the Empire. The other nations of Europe just couldn't find the people who disagreed with France: their wouldn't be to many, and the ones who did wouldn't have had anything resembling power. But the Irish Sea Incident would be nearly enough to bring war, or at least closer to war, than any Foreign intervention in the Empire or its associates. They would try to destroy French power, but with loyal and moderately powerful allies, France couldn't easily be destroyed.


 * I hope this is understandable, and thank you for reading my TL! I hope these explanations make some sense! Tbguy1992 04:24, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'm changing Andrew Jackson's involvement in the war, plus modifying the US army to be a draft based on "national need", aka, only during war time, while a militia based "American Guard" is always active, more like a semi-professional National Guard in OTL?. Does that sound reasonable for what the US could do?


 * What do you think I should do with the Caribbean? Should I just make them a bunch of colonial enclaves and impoverished dictatorships like OTL? I would have liked to try to do something different, and most likely, in the way the story was going to go, the entire thing would have been destroyed in all but name by the 1840's, while they keep the Confederation around as a strong front against any stronger American, European or Latin American threat. Does that sound reasonable?


 * As for Europe, Say their was some discontent, and some nationalism, but Napoleon found a way to harness their nationalism to help the Empire? Say that the French gave them their near independence, and by about 1840, under the new Napoleon, they would get their full freedom, and still be allied with France? I understand where you are coming from, but in this TL, without the Napoleonic Wars stretching ten years longer, then I think that Napoleon would be able to find a way control his puppet states better than having to also deal with defeating the rest of the Europe. This would mean that the Napoleon does not have to fight to crack down on opposition so harshly, and he can fund projects to strengthen his ties in the nations instead, and though their would be a wing that could not be satisfied unless France got out of their country altogether, the majority would not care, and though not enthralled about France having a hand, they would have a decent living, economy and security.


 * As for the next part: yes, the RN got tactically defeated by a rival French Navy that would be nearly the same strength. This war would basically show that older tactics and inexperienced officers (due to very rapid promotion) on both sides just could not defeat the other. The war at sea virtually ended in a draw, as Britain and France had other worries, Britain with Prussia and Colonial territory's, and France with threats closer to home, like Prussia. In the end, France paid some money, and they exchanged some islands. That's about what happened between them.


 * Yeah, I didn't mention much about slavery, but I just wasn't sure how to go about it. A slave rebellion thwarted, which would make the southern plantation owners angry at the Northern abolitionists who sent arms to them?


 * I had no idea what to do about India. I just picked some spots for the various nations to have, as I couldn't find a map that detailed what each country would have had in the early 1800's to go by. Once I do, then I can go ahead and fix that. Should I just divide the continent between the both of them by a treaty or something?


 * As for Washington, though still the father of the country, his views on staying out of foreign entanglements would be mostly popular until after the ATL Civil War, when the CS wins its independence, and the US is now surrounded by Britain, Canada and the CSA, locking them into a small part of the continent.


 * The Liberty party is basically OTL's Republican party, and after the 1890's, the OTL Democratic party. They just have different names. So, the Liberal Party is more Left wing, and the Democratic Party is right wing, and both will remain so, even though in OTL they sorta switched spots in the 1890's-early 1900's.


 * I will most likely switch the name from the CAR to Grand Colombia, as its an easier handle than the Central American Republic.


 * Anything else? Did I mostly explain my reasoning, or is their still some holes that need to be fixed? And thank you for reading my TL, even if I did have to pretty much beg you to do so. Tbguy1992 04:08, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

File Uploads
At about 12:40 pm EDT, I attempted to upload a file and found that the wiki has disabled that function. I had just uploaded a file just a little earler. What happened? And as an admin, can I undo this? SouthWriter 16:54, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Important
I need to talk to you privately regarding someone who is stating half-truths, and flat out non-truths about me... Arstarpool 02:23, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Superpowers Timeline
Hey Mitro, I noticed your analysis of Tbguy's FTBW timeline on his talk page and I'm impressed by both your honesty and skill at pointing out implausibilities, or just things that don't seem quite right. So if you ever have the time could you do the same for at least a small part of my timeline? I'll be the first to admit, its pretty long so I don't expect you to read too much of it. I'd appreciate this very much, as I've put a lot of work into it and am now in the process of retroactively changing some things in the story's continuity.

Thank you kindly, - John aka Red VS Blue 14:26, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Good to hear! And again, I appreciate this. Hope you enjoy my timeline =D Red VS Blue 14:32, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sandbox and Ideas
May I use your idea to have a user page with your sandbox and ideas? I mean, can I make an equivalent to this and this? Fedelede 21:40, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Questions
I have a couple questions for you.

1. Regarding Maine, do you think it would be plausible for any other form of organized society to exist in any other part of the state?

2. How do you make an archive?

3. Also how do you make a sandbox and ideas pages as well?

4. South Writer told me I am not allowed to sign up for Administrative Duties (No Cross, New Pages, etc.) because I am a "constable", which in his mind is the equivalent of a meter maid. I told him that I was only not allowed to do things that require deleting and banning, and that officially I am an administrator, but he restates time and time again that my only duty is to revert edits of vandals and trolls and should "stay out of the way" of the brass. So am I or am I not allowed to do Administrative Duties? Arstarpool 21:48, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Arstarpool
This user has constable rights but has acted in a number of ways since early summer that not only appear to serve his own purposes but make him difficult to work with at best. Very recently he has created a number of gateway articles for 1983:DD that should be open for all editors to use, but writes them as if he is setting editorial policy for the entire timeline. One example is Alabama, in which he huffs that "Brian and South(Writer) took it over pretty much on their own initiative...so I renounce having anything to do with it" The latest example is having the Celtic Alliance condemn a British survivor nation for heinous crimes, and writing an item on the wcrb news page...then pulling the item, and the section of the main talk page discussing the matter after leaving a message saying it was a joke. I am tired of this activity. This is extremely unprofessional and, if it remains unchecked, could cause significant problems later on, including good, quality editors leaving who don't want to deal with the nonsense. --BrianD 03:51, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the discussion, which should have taught Alex that we mean business in protecting the 1983DD (I am not currently following many of the other time lines on the wiki), I agree it should be archived. However, I think that a note should be left on the main talk page that directs the editors to the archive. This way, it is out of the way, but not completely out of sight. SouthWriter 17:34, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Communist world
Hey mitro, i need some help on my timeline and see how u made a similar alhist (USSA) I wonder if u give some advice

Turkey 1983
There's been a... fair measure of debate, over whether this is plausible as written, or not. And the creator won't listen to objections beyond a certain point, either.

Could you have a look at it and give your opinion?

Lordganon 14:30, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

PRMDS
A new user recently proposed some private militia in Turkey that is used to the LoN's "dirty work" and launches missions across the world. I don't want to bring the fist down on it but you can read it yourself and tell me if you agree if it is implausible or not. He just doesn't get the post Doomsday world and I don't know how to explain it to him as it would be paragraphs long. Arstarpool 19:11, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting nuke stats
i've been looking round on the internet and found a page on the effects of the nuclear blastwind, with PSI's, wind speeds and effect on people and buildings. i was just wondering where to put this info on the Doomsday pages? any ideas?--Smoggy80 18:17, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I've put in on the editorial guidelines page in the discussion section, hope thats ok, i've also added a link to a website that provides a mapping system for nuclear blast effects. Hope thats ok?--Smoggy80 18:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

obsolete banner
the reason i removed the banner is I am still working on Republic of Bury (1983: Doomsday) I can understand you warning me if it wasn't my article but it was surely its my decision if my articles obsolete or not --Owen1983 22:27, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Perez Jimenez's Venezuela
Hi, Mitro just to know why did you object against this timeline in the featured candidates. VENEZUELA 22:33, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

If you are receiving this message you are a member of the TSPTF. Owen, which is already causing ruckus, wants to be part of the TSPTF again ! He claimed that he did not vote for Smoggy so he could gain respect but then wrote on Louis' page what I am about to write below: "since I successfully nominated Smoggy, can I join the TSPTF now?" - Owen1983 He doesn't get it, this guy. I suggest you respond to him. He does not get how we function, he does not understand how to write alternate history, hell, he barely knows how to write English, and he is a grade-A spammer. Some people are already complaining again and hes only been back for about a week or so.

Please respond, Arstarpool