User talk:SouthWriter/sandbox/An atheist's objections/@comment-257949-20100810185112

"You say "we know that nothing exists outside the universe". From where do you think that? Even ignoring religion, there are numerous scientific theories (M-theory for one) which propose the existence of things outside our own universe."

I'm well aware of this, but as it hasn't been proved, we therefore don't know that anything exists beyond the universe, so, technically, we also 'know' that nothing exists - we're just waiting to be disproved. By the way, if it can't be proved, it's only a hypothesis. I am dimly aware of one argument suggesting that our universe collided with something outside it, but the evidence was so circumstancial I'm very sceptical.

"Science, which is an observational tool, not an ideology, is useless on that subject matter. I'm often amazed at how many people who "dispose" of religion put science in its place and take bigger leaps of faith with science than religious people take with God. I'm not saying that you do, but I've seen many who do."

This all depends on what aspects of science they are. Could you give an example, please?

"We would be like how the Bible describes Angels, and so I'd wager we wouldn't even have free will in that case."

How does knowing what something is like equate to possession of free will?