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im not saying russia loses to the nazis, im saying the nazis occupy ukraine, byelorussia, "european russia", but they would never be able to defeat the russians in the urals.

the russians did come close to losing moscow in 1941, if the germans had launched barbarossa a month earlier then the russians would have been routed, and slowly pushed back in '42 and '43