User talk:Nathan1123/Talk page archive (2017)

RotA and the North Yemen Civil War
According to the backstory of the game:

PoD: Al- Badr fails to escape in the 1962 North Yemen coup and is caught and executed. The civil war never breaks out although there is still low level insurgency by the tribes with no leader to rally behind and so not much happens

General534 (talk) 00:27, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Arab Indian Trading Company
Greetings. I thought it was Bahmani, not Bengal in the trading company? Because Bengal is about to get conquered. How about we not intervene.

Thanks,

Warrioroffreedom123 18:56, January 2, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Can you unban me from chat?
So, yes I did help the enemy. But part of my condition for speaking was that I wouldnt get a ban, and Andreas broke that conditition. Therefore, I would like you to unban me from chat.

Warrioroffreedom123 01:42, January 3, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Yeah it was really for no reason in the first place. FP Now 10% edgier!!! 01:46, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

i shall be Siam in PM4 as they converted to Islam (I am sure I will fall in a few yers to China)

About PV4
So which allies will you call to declare war on me. Bahmani is Shia and Abbasid is Sunni. I dont think they will do anything. And in the southeast only Siam is Muslim. Hey just let me take Bengal. And I promise I wont conquer more.

Dev271 (talk) 08:09, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

I will negotiate peace. I will leave Bengal homeland and Arakan. Ahom area is annexed. Kingdom of Koch Bihar (Koch and Chuttiya) become my vassal. Pegu and Ava become my vassal as the Taungoo Dynasty. These are my demands. Let us create a treaty page and then we can discuss.

Dev271 (talk) 08:16, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Islam in Sumatra
Greetings. Can you help me spread Islam in Sumatra? I intent for it to be Zaidi Islam, but perhaps you might still want to help. I also plan for a Jihad against Majapahit.

Your friend,

Warrioroffreedom123 14:00, January 6, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

where is the Maghrib deal in the Amman Deal? -Bozi

PMIV
We need to talk get on chat.              Ungern Von Sternberg   A Man's GREATEST Joy is Crushing his Enemies   15:39, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

morrocco is a monacry, but Mauritania isn't.-bozi

A serious problem
Looks like kawaii launched a counter offensive rather than opting for peace. He also wants to air strike your nuclear reactors. Time to hit him hard till he accepts peace.

Sorry
Yeah Sorry man. I got a little carried away and forgot my promise. No need to worry. I wont do it again. Well also I would like to ask you about the USSR, USA and China war in RoTA. And what happened to China after that ? Since if China's economy was hard hit, India can become a manufacturing giant after I kick Indira Gandhi off from the PM's seat (Which will happen in 1975, Raj Narain case and its over).

Dev271 (talk) 12:38, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

What the Fuck Man
You had promised me my fair shair of ex Majapahit earlier. But I have seen what you have did. In 1577, you put all of Majapahit Islands under control of the Caliphate. What the fuck. I didn't want to be backstabbed. Fuck this, time to put a hardline anti Abbasid faction in power in Gurkani. Also Israel agreed to talks in RoTA.

Warrior

Events
Have you noticed that the wokou have now accepted my offer to protect them in-exchange for raiding Japanese settlements under the banner of my monarchy? Thus, the mod event is illegitimate. Even then, contrary to what you may assume, wokou aren't even Japanese but rather a mix of Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese pirates, and most historians posit that the first wave of wokou (during the early half of the Ming) were (full) Koreans from Tsushima (Dokdo) or Jeju.

The Wokou pirates are not one large united group and their loyalty can differ. While most Wokou may work for Korea it is totaly plausible for some pirates such as Akuma to work for Japan. The two events are mot contradictory. 카와이카매] ([[User talk:|카와이카매talk) 10:01, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

Caliphate and Indonesia (PMIV)
It's slightly implausible that the Abbasid Caliphate is able to directly rule over Sumatra and Sunda as "colonies", when they should be nothing more than distant, loosely associated vassals that receive funding from the Caliphate to keep them happy. An overextended realm cannot administrate its distant vassals efficiently.

General534 (talk) 00:28, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Crusade Against the Far East
I am calling total ASB on this crusade against the far east

Warrior

Gurkani
Hello.

I have been voted back as Gurkani. Unfortunatly, I had to end my dynastic union with the Abbasid Caliphate as I fear your civil war will spill over, but once this is all done, I need to deal with Hindu India player. His posts are simply to asb for me, so I think I will punish the nation. Hence why I am calling for a joint jihad against them.

Warrior

Principia
I am aware of what the name Fatimid came from. If you had issues with it, you didnt need to tell me the defintition and act like I didnt know it, humiliating me in front of all of the players. Please fuck off of humilating me like that in the future. Just retcon it and ask for me to rename it. I'm aware of were the name came from, I simply thought I could get away from calling it "Later Fatimid" just like the pre Qing was called the "Later Jin" based on an earlier Jurchen Dynasty. No need to fucking humilate me on the game.

-warrior

Arab-Indian Company members (PMIV)
Do you have a list of all Arab-Indian Company member states?

General534 (talk) 12:17, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

Why i pulled back from attacking Aryavarta
The reason why I pulled back from attacking Aryavarta is because since according to feud my pop is only a bit above 11 mil I can raise only 220,000 troops, I would only use a certain amount of them (150,000) 90,000 isnt enough troops to back me up. I would need about 300,000-500,000 of your troops supporing me. So sorry I didnt join the war, I had to keep my army intact. Dev had an army of 300,000 waiting for me on his border.

- warrior

quick question how did you know i was "grave" and how come a alt account is considered a sock?

---Syber aka Syb

Bahmani
Bahmani Sultanate: A revolt occurs in the court and is led by Ibrahim Adil Shah II of the Adil Shahi dynasty who hails from Bijapur. The Bahmani Dynasty is overthrown and the Adil Shahi synasty takes control. The Sultanate is renamed as the Deccan Sultanate under Sultan Ibrahim Adil Shah II. A University is set up in Bijapur and the capital is shifted to Bijapur. Dakkhani (an amalgam of Persian-Arabic, Gujarati, Marathi, Telugu and Kannada) replaces Persian as the official language. The state patronises Islamic art and architecture. The King is all powerful but limited by the Sharia law. The King adopts a non-tolerant attitude. The Sharia Law now applies to all people of the Sultanate and not only to Muslims. Kalinga is annexed. We modernize our navy of 1800 ships. A naval academy is set up in Goa. Artists and Musicians flock to Bijapur. The Jami Masjid is completed in Bijapur. Naval tactics and technologies are developed. The Army size is increased to 300,000. They are armed with modern weapons. Gunpowder technologies are developed too.

DrDrake346 (talk) 10:04, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Deccan Sultanate
Deccan Sultanate: We improve our navy. '''We declare war on Burgundy. '''An army of 300,000 is led by our Great General crosses the Adam's bridge to Burgundian Ceylon. Our navy of 1800 ships patrols around Ceylon. The Burgundian army of 25,000 is crushed by our army. Ceylon falls to Deccan hands.

DrDrake346 (talk) 05:42, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

plausibility strike
Hello. It has been almost twice over 30 years. I have already asked for the reset of my plasuiblility strike. Can you please reset it?

Warrioroffreedom123 21:19, February 22, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Discord
Hello. Discord is blocked at my school. I cannot respond to your messages. I have already responded to your diplomatic offer.

- Warrior.

PMIV
We need to talk come in chat.              Ungern Von Sternberg   A Man's GREATEST Joy is Crushing his Enemies   14:22, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

This is the test to see if the sig is working

"[ [ User talk: Warrioroffreedom] ]" 02:52, March 3, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Test
[ [ user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 ] ] 02:58, March 3, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Test
user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 03:00, March 3, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Discord blocked
I have said this before, i will repeat it again, discord is blocked at my school, cannot respond to your messages. As for the bengal thing, I cannot see stuff in devs turn about any invasion. user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 17:08, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

What we need to do
Aryavarta delenda est. Everytime a war is fought against them, he tries to sneek back and expand again. We have to finally capitulate Aryavarta. However, he has 300,000 troops on my border, and I can only send so many, so I will need some serious reinforcements. Like 100-200,000 of your troops fighting on my front.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 17:15, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

About Aryavarta
Well. I am not making promises. The Maratha-Rajput Confederacy is independent and so is Bengal. I wont even expand into Assam. Do what you want to and please leave me alone now. I dont want war anymore. Also the parts where the Marathas and Rajputs cant have an area with a pop of 20 million. They can have whole of the southern part. I will put up the map. But their population can be 10 million at max. This population is the only request I make. Then my population will be 50 million. (40 million Otl India and 10 million in Otl Pakistan Punjab and Peshawar province.

Dev Here (Beware) 08:14, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

PrincipiaModerni4
Hi Nate I am sorry Nate I didnt declare war on Aryavarta. I was using my smartphone and I was not notified about your message. Now I know of the algorithm. With this Maratha thing. Can I expand into them and annex them ? I have not expanded anywhere and i need your help with technology. Can Swahili,Iran and Decvan and the Caliphate have a technology sharing treaty ? I am really sorry --DrDrake346 (talk) 15:12, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Dynasty name
The reason for the dynasty name is Jin because that's the Hanzi reading of the character 金 (it is geun when read as Hanja), which means gold; the primary metal that backs up the Korean currency. Scraw said Nepal is part of Tibet, and thus Maratha can't vassalize it.

Sorry
I am sorry for suspecting you. Now that I know the reasons. Anyways. Can I buy Gujarat from you ?

Dev Here (Beware) 07:35, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Discord Blocked
I have decided to stay, discord is blocked at my school, however I am still opposed to the Afghanistan mod event, and if it happens, and you don't retake Afghanistan for Iran, im sorry but I will interpret that as insulting my legacy as Iran. user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 12:12, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Adolf Coffee (talk) 13:10, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Re: the Crusade
Thanks man, I'm glad you appreciate the bind I'm in! I've appreciated our improving ties over the past decades, but unfortunately I reckon plausibility may somewhat force my hand. Callumthered (talk) 10:50, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

About PM4
Why would Orissa and Andhra secede from Aryavarta when Karnad accepted the Treaty of Elichpur and asked the nobles not to cause problems. Why would Hindu majority areas go to a country who has just burned down very important Hindu temples ?

I am sorry. I am banned but I want to ask this question ?

Dev Here (Beware) 12:40, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Kongo
Why did you describe Kongo as "Kongo" in your turn? It's been well established in mod events, its the 'Sultanate of Zayiyr.' Don't decieve the new player.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 13:35, March 29, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Our War
Yeah sorry ive been kinda gone past few days. Right now i guess what would be going on this year would be the final securing and whatnot before that ill fated raid into the ME happens.

Great Khanate
Hello.

It appears whoever plays the Great Khanate in principia, is claiming to have a capital in my former nation. (iran). I understand in the futue this region will break off, but I still don't approve of you allowing to chance his capital to an Iranian city "if he chooses." That is not part of the Great Khanate and its only fair to retcon it. Would you retcon my turn if I made my capital Baghdad? Yes. So retcon the shit out of the samarkand claim.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 15:54, April 5, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Siam
I'm not annexing any parts of Siam, I'm simply reviving Lan Xang (Laos), Cambodia, and leaving Siam proper be. I don't see any issue with that?

Re: PMIV Idea
Hey Nathan,

I actually really like the sound of that! It could be seen as sort of retribution for the Pope's toleration of the Hospitaller's High Seas Crusade. We could have the Pope be visiting some small coastal town in Naples like Bari when suddenly the barbary pirates appear. It would be even funnier if they didn't realise they had the Pope for like a year until they heard from European news that they had had him all along. If we're in 1660 now, let's say...1675? With a 1680 re-capture?

Callumthered (talk) 21:26, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Principia question
Due to school and other stressful reallife problems, I don't think I have been able to talk to you on chat in the past few days. However, I have question about Ethiopia. I see, some revolts are happening, and the Amharic language is being persecuted. Will Amharic survive?

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 16:07, April 28, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Check it out
Hey, the Yayiyr player (solace) created a page for the nation. It looks pretty good so far. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Sultanate_of_Zayiyr_(Principia_Moderni_IV_Map_Game)

A suggestion for the Caliphate in Principia
I have a suggestion for the Caliphate in principia. 1666 OTL was the year Europe started issuing its paper currency, and I think it would work for the Caliphate. China already issued paper during Song Dynasty, although it phased out during late Ming. How does that sound? I think it would make good for you're "progressive Caliphate" idea.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 16:07, May 2, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

PM IV Event
Hey Nate - would you mind having a look at my question on the PMIV talk page concerning the recent `Pirate Republic event? I'm told that you came up with it so I feel you would be best placed to answer. Thanks in advance, Emp - His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Romanus (talk) 20:43, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Kentucky
I need help defending Kentucky. South Carolina and I cannot do it alone.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 17:35, May 12, 2017 (UTC)Warriorofffreedom123

ban me from althist chat
I would like you to permentently ban me from chat on althistory wiki. I have already left the conworlds discord server, I don't think they want me there anymore. I am getting the same impression for althist wiki. So please, permaban me from althist, and I don't want to return. We can still talk on a discord server, but I don't feel welcome at any of these places anymore.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 00:28, May 15, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Blocked on your discord
Hey, it seems that you blocked me from discord messages or maybe its because we don't share a server, but if its the latter, can you join the althistory discord server, which is bascially a dead one, so that we can have a server to share so that we can message since i decided to be banned from chat? btw still sticking to the chat ban so far

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 22:53, May 15, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Greetings
Greetings Nate

I had a question. Dont you think that the amount of money which Bengal is bidding is a lot more than it should be able to considering it has raised large armies in under 5 years and fought two stalemate wars with Aryavarta and Karnad ?

DrDrake346 (talk) 14:16, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

Anangu Kingdom
In your earlier PMIV games, you began the ambitious task of setting up a whole civilisation in Australia. It must've been hard planning the foundations of a culture and a nation, as well as creating a viable civilisation with the disadvantages you had, such as the lack of domesticated animals. So I'm sorry that I might've been overly critical in the start of the game. I would like to ask for permission to play the Anangu Kingdom, as you spent so much time on it, it seems impolite to play without your permission. So can you give me a summary, of the population, political structure, economy, tech and surrounding nations as well as how much this may have progressed over the turns you have been gone.

If I sound overly polite, its because I have certain social issues and depression and so maybe empathy and politeness may help.RedDragon2000 (talk) 08:17, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

I would take the centralised Kingdom. Thank you. Tell me when its available.RedDragon2000 (talk) 08:17, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Oxidized Milk?
Would you mind telling me what oxidized milk is exactly? I did some reading up on chemistry and did not find any correlation to the creation of formaldehyde in neither milk nor casein, but that formaldehyde is used in the creation of galalith. Sidewinder291102 (talk) 13:02, May 18, 2017 (UTC)Sidewinder291102

Enough
Nathan? Can you tell Centrist he can die in a pit for all I care!? Because I am getting tired of his excuses to justify his actions and all of this starting because he would NOT fix my name on the server! *groans* Lousy, bloody bastard! I want at least a reason why I should not get some revenge! - Through Stars We Rise. (Welcome to the Universe). 04:07, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Nate
hey nate I think personally that Feud wants to destroy me and my nation in PMIV. I have made my own chat record of a lil debate we had and I think you would like to hear it. I dont now if this is mod bias or what butjust read it.

Feudy McPlagueface i am about to rape coffees nation -.-

2:03 Person67 ok

2:03 Feudy McPlagueface pretty much went out of his way in the posts to ignore the mod events

2:03 Nkbeeching lol bengal go bye?

2:04 Mr.Orwell bye bye mrs Bengalese pie

2:04 Feudy McPlagueface no he just gets a strike and i get to do more damage next turn

2:05 Mr.Orwell I think the first song I will learn on harmonic, just by watching the live performance, will probably be Pyschotic Reation

2:09 Tullin hey 2:09

Feudy McPlagueface fucked that kids turn up lol Ace009 has left the chat. 2:10 Adolf Coffee ?

2:10 Feudy McPlagueface your bengal right

2:10 Tullin orwell pm

2:10 Adolf Coffee Just because I try to rebuild my nation after the crisis

2:10 Feudy McPlagueface yeah it takes longer than 2 fucking years i also did this to you and karnad for a reason

2:11 Adolf Coffee 3 years and the spice trade plus gaining back the gold wont be too hard plus i limted my budget 2:11 Feudy McPlagueface i dont care

2:11 Tullin feudy i got a question

2:11 Feudy McPlagueface 15 years no less

2:11 Adolf Coffee 15 years?

2:12 Feudy McPlagueface you and karnad are both heavily overstating what you can do by massive margins including in the scheme of gold and silver mining and your ability to colonize

2:12 Adolf Coffee to rebuild my spice trade which spices occur naturally

2:12 Feudy McPlagueface you crashed the market

2:12 Adolf Coffee No you crashed the market I only stated what was being produced not how much and I had done research on spices that were produced naturally for my region and there was nothing wrong behind that

2:14 Feudy McPlagueface im sticking to my guns here lol

2:14 Adolf Coffee The gold and silver can be mined naturally in my area as i had done research on that as well 2:14 Feudy McPlagueface spice market is crashed also nothing is mined naturally also gold and silver production in india 2:14 Adolf Coffee I mean as in

2:14 Feudy McPlagueface is limited by technology as it is everywhere

2:14 Adolf Coffee silver and gold

2:14 Feudy McPlagueface yeah you cant reach it

2:14 Adolf Coffee occur naturally

Octivian Marius has joined the chat.

Tullin has left the chat.

2:14 Feudy McPlagueface with current level technology

2:15 Adolf Coffee and the same tech France and England plus burgundy has I have so I have close to best of the line so my tech is not that limited

2:15 Feudy McPlagueface Franch england and burgundy cant reach it either dipshit im talking that any tech from the current in game year CANT REACH THOSE DEPOSITS

2:16 Adolf Coffee Then how the hell is gold used by just shoving a damn spoon in the ground and fnding it with luck Octivian Marius has left the chat. 2:16 Adolf Coffee because it has to be that limited

2:16 Feudy McPlagueface the ore veins are too deep to this day in the modern world Wegavehereverythingmoneycouldbuy has joined the chat.

2:17 Feudy McPlagueface the extent of indias mineral deposits are unknown

2:17 Adolf Coffee and if that is the case no one should have gold and silver right now unless it is found in streams like CA

2:17 Feudy McPlagueface um no there are veins close to the ground but the largest producers in the world historically and legitimately are in the americas a few sites in africa and japan not india

2:18 Wegavehereverythingmoneycouldbuy Hello

2:18 Feudy McPlagueface hola

2:18 Adolf Coffee plus how the hell can you make 1,000s of people go missing in a year in a colony that had everything

2:19 Feudy McPlagueface first of all

2:19 Adolf Coffee that is like going beyond Roanoke ststus

2:19 Feudy McPlagueface no way in hell you got 1000's of people to settle there

2:19 Adolf Coffee i understand

2:19 Feudy McPlagueface also secondly your literally colonizing an area

2:19 Adolf Coffee yes I could

2:19 Feudy McPlagueface that has some of the most violent natives on the damn planet Mr.Orwell has left the chat. 2:20 Wegavehereverythingmoneycouldbuy Is your name a reference to the boat

2:20 Feudy McPlagueface Considering Rome could literally wipe cities off the face of the planet yes it is someone got it XD

2:20 Wegavehereverythingmoneycouldbuy Wow a stale maymay I'm Jk

2:20 Person67 yeah Boaty McBoatface

2:21 Wegavehereverythingmoneycouldbuy Sick reference

2:21 Feudy McPlagueface anyways coffee stop colonizing cause you have pretty much 0 reasoning

2:21 Wegavehereverythingmoneycouldbuy Are you guys talking about a timeline

2:21 Adolf Coffee i have no plans for further colonization

2:21 Feudy McPlagueface and you and karnad both need to chill out cause i need to talk to him too

2:22 Adolf Coffee and also do what you like with my nation Mr.Orwell has joined the chat.

2:22 Adolf Coffee It can fall apart and I could care less because I know it was not my fault that is all that matters in my eyes

2:23 Feudy McPlagueface okay and?

2:23 Adolf Coffee nothing Please report back to me as soon as possible after you received this Adolf Coffee (talk) 18:41, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

List of Mod Event Ideas
These are plausible ideas I had.

Due to Mzerka's mass use of domesticated Elk and Horses as well as metallurgy, it begins to spread across the americas. Agriculture isnt proving as popular.

considered that natives suddenly adopting agricutlure would be asb. natives adopting horses happened otl from spanish, but the elk would come quicker due to mzerka domesticated it near many nomadic tribes. Elk cavalry maybe. native metallurgy might spread like horses did otl, due to sinkyone useing it, and because sinkyone started as tribal, it would have spread, it wasnt some european power introducing advanced metallugry, it would be sinkyone's basic metallurgy.

Tondo, seeing its economy go poor from the war with Dai Viet, has talks with Borneo, and Borneo agrees to become a protectorate

I think Borneo is poor and weak enough to agree to this.

Many hawkish Morrocan officials urge the Sultan to attack Mali, for they believe that near Timbuktu is rich gold mines

this happened otl

Tawaii revolts against unstable Japan to form its own nation ruled by the Shinto Inone clan

That last one seems very plausible due to Japan being shitty in principia, and I think there should a stronghold of Japanese culture untouched by Christianization.

I hope you like and consider some of these ideas.

Salam

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 21:53, June 1, 2017 (UTC)warrioroffreedom123

Hawaii in PM4
Can you please uncross the things you crossed out on my turn? 90% of the things stated in my turn already happened, I simply restated what the previous player of Hawaii was saying to establish that those things are still going on. Those things were already accepted in previous turns, or already happened. Thank you, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 00:41, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Also just to clarify, the first section you crossed out simply said the king marries another one of his relatives, I don't see how that is that crazy. The second section you crossed out is almost directly pasted from a previous turn I read in the archives. Also what is the point of crossing out that section, which simply states the king is creating new laws, but then you not crossing out the actual laws and their effects? Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 00:43, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

EoGuy Memorial Copy Writer Award
Name me Copy Editor Emeritus and take me out of the running.

That will give someone else a chance.

Bil EoGuy EoGuy (talk) 20:56, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

My REAL Persona?
I don't know why anyone would want to but I guess it's okay.

To read more about me and to see why kids call me Santa go to the amateur radio website qrz.com and enter my call sign K1ATV.

I'm not an expert but I play one - on HAM TV. Bil Munsil K1ATV HAM TV Mesa AZ Hams should be seen as well as heard. More than 30 years on and off HAM TV in Arizona. EoGuy EoGuy (talk) 22:21, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

A couple of questions
Hi! I was checking Principia Moderni IV and I had a few questions to ask before maybe joining, mainly about which nation. Didn't know who to ask, so I picked a you as you are part of the staff, hope it's not a problem. Zamarak500 (talk) 04:57, July 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) When it says Cyprus, is it still the christian crusader Cyprus Kingdom? Or some muslim independent state that got free ingame?
 * 2) What kind of democracy is the Republic of Crete?
 * 3) What is "the Italian League"?
 * 4) Any suggestion other than those three? Cause honestly if there is somewhere you want more players on the map, I'm open as long as I get some info on what I'm playing.

____________________________________________________

Well, You've convince me to play Cyprus now. But I still have a few questions. Zamarak500 (talk) 20:20, July 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) What is the population culturaly? Since the Abbasid is ruling, I'm guessing the elite class is Arab, but what about the population. Is there a christian Greek population left, or was it converted to islam? And if I remember correctly the Ottomans controlled it at some point, so is there a massive Turkish population? Since the game is in the 18th century, nationalism is at our doorstep, so I'm interested in knowing if there is a possibility of turkish uprising, or something like that.
 * 2) Who are my allies? I understood that the Balkan Empire is my protector, and that Cyprus supported the Caliphate, but other than that I have no real idea.
 * 3) Is my ruling dynasty called Abbasid or Zayidi?
 * 4) I suck when it come to numbers (population, ow many troops I have). Any advices or websites I could use to help me?

PM4
Why did you cross out my turn? It seems like you're crossing it out simply because "nationalism" as a buzz word isn't allowed at the time somewhat arbitrarily. But read the post a little closer, it's not even Italian nationalism, it's the precursor to nationalism that existed at this time in OTL. It's literally a guy quoting something that in OTL was published in the 1500's. How is it implausible for a politician to read/quote something that sounds nationalistic that was published two centuries ago? Seems to be no actual reason for the crossing out, except for an arbitrary prohibition on nationalism, even though what I described in my turn was not what you are thinking of. Gatthias (talk) 17:13, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

Adolf as Prussia
Hey Nate, so it has come to my attention that Adolf has been given the go-ahead to play as Prussia, the lesser partner of the Burgundy-Prussian PU. This runs counter to everything that has occurred in the past, when permission from the senior PU member was needed (such as when I said no to Prussian27 joining as Prussia). I also wasn't inactive, I was on discord and posting turns and diplomacies.

Once more, the "Prussian restoration" event doesn't seem thought out very well. For one, they'd be rebelling against their own native dynasty (the House of Brandenburg, previously the House of Luxembourg). For another, the nobility have little to nothing in the way of actual power. There's also only 40 of them, so obviously they don't have a lot of support. There's also the matter that the army answers to the crown, and not them, so there's that.

If you could get back to me, that'd be great. I am that guy (talk) 23:10, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

The Burgundy side was focusing on colonization, the intra-HRE interactions were the Prussia side. These conspirators would also have to contend with the standing Prussian army, something the otl forty conspirators didn't have to because Spain was fighting the Thirty Years War. There's also none of the nationalism/semi-nationalism in Prussia that was present in Portugal at the time. This also doesnt address how Prussia isn't being ruled overbearingly like Portugal was by Spain (i.e. raising taxes on their merchants, trying to integrate it as a constituent realm). There's been no build up, no rising tensions, nothing, it just randomly occurred one day. I am that guy (talk) 23:38, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

PM4: War with Venice
I ain't dead? Honestly I thought I was over and went on a IRL vacation for a couple of days. Never assumed something  would save me. Lot of lines to the treaty, and the mod who signed got the name of the Sultan wrong, but other than that yeah, it's cool I survived. May be less able to be active for next days however (as I said, vacations).

PS: What was the population of Cyprus in the end?

Zamarak500 (talk) 16:33, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Don't I already have a nation page?

PS: Wait, if I won the sea war and all, I'm basically suffering like WW1 Germany for a war that was basically a Stalemate (and may or may not have gone in my favor with the allies possibly coming in)? I kind of feel like I was screwed around during my small absence...

Zamarak500 (talk) 03:18, July 20, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Current Election
The Copts would have a cardinal if you had fully agreed to the decrees of Alexandria. But since we're not fully reunified yet, it doesn't make sense for them to have one yet. If I've misinterpreted the current Catholic-Coptic relationship, I'll give your Pope one of the Papal States' votes. Callumthered (talk) 05:45, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

Bro, what gives? If you wanted a Cardinal, you could have just signed up to Alexandria, like I said above before the election. Callumthered (talk) 06:56, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Aaah, alright that makes sense, no harm in an interesting plotline. By the same token, would you be opposed to trying to resolve it in the scheduled 1755 Ecumenical Council? Callumthered (talk) 11:06, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Hello Nathan
Greetings Nate

There has been some confusion. I thought that the Deccan Maharajya referred to the Deccan Maharaja and the other nobles taking over South India. Please note that the official name of the nation was Dravida but I used the name South India as it is much easier and represents the area of control, also it is the name by which the non-Indians would refer to the country. There is no problem, so I will now be using Deccan Maharajya as the name. And what is the meaning of Deccan Maharajya ?

Also I posted on Sky's talk page so that he responds to my mod response request. It is pasted below-

I am Drake, the player for South India in Principia Moderni IV. I recently posted for a mod response. The government of South India offers the nations bordering it in the north a tributary-protectoarte status whereby the 4 nations will be allowed to have their own standing army but the South Indian army will be stationed in these nations and will recruit from their areas. South India will also guarantee their independence. This move comes many years after the dissolution of Aryavarta and Punjab. The reasons for sending this offer is to create a buffer zone and secure South India's borders while protecting the other Indian states from other major powers in light of the recent Iberian conquest of Goa, the Bengali attempts at expansion in North India, Britain and the Rajasthan-Madhya allaince which lies to the north of these states. South India wields a powerful army and a formidable navy in subcontinental terms and can more than protect and provide to the neighbouring states. Please respond accordingly.

(Please replace South India with Deccan Maharajya)

I will be posting the same request this turn and I am requesting you and Sky to respond to it. Please do so.

DrDrake346 (talk) 04:16, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Council
Hey Nate, what do you think of the proposal in the current Council ? Callumthered (talk) 12:19, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

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Belka will conquer Uluru

Greetings
Hi Nathan, I'm Candies. I am player in PM3 and I read through your turn and noticed several issues. First is your point about ethnic subdivisions. To destroy and meld ethnicities takes hundreds of years, and even then it's neigh impossible to completely remove one ethnicity without relocation or genocide, neither of which are good options for you. I am actively taken roles to remove the large Spanish minority/majority in areas of my nation, and even then it is not possible to fully remove Spanish culture. Second, population growth. You can use several equations for this, but the one I use is Xieyr = Xc; Xi being the starting population, e being euler's number, y being years been passed, r being percent by year divided by 100, and Xc being the end result. Steady population growth, assuming no major wars, baby booms, or flood of settlers, is about a percent. Because you are a colony, you could ask Bavaria to send settlers, boosting your population further. Finally, remember your location. The area you are set in, in the OTL world, has only about 20 million people. While this isn't the population limit for you, you may have more or less than that, but use that as a judge for your estimates. Need anything you can message me.

Permanently leaving the wiki
Hello. I would like to inform you that I will never return to the althistory wiki. For too long, this wiki has wasted my time and hurt my mental health. I appreciate the support you gave me, but you and Bozis attempt to drag me into religions I have not pay d much attention to was not good. I am a atheist now. It is best for my mental state. I have had great times on this wiki and planned to return around this time, but it is time to go. You have caused enough damage to me on accident enough. So tell Vinny to not worry about me anymore, for I have stabalized and found my new self. And I am especially done with bozi. He indirectly brainwashed me and it could have turned into a disaster! I wish you the best, but it is time we depart. Make one final reply if you wish. user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 22:30, August 20, 2017 (UTC)warrioroffreedom123

Important
Hi,

Message me back when you get this. I want to discuss colonial stuff with you, preferably private. Thanks.

Can you get on chat right now? And if you can't, perhaps tomorrow at noon EST?

Staying in contact
Throughout my stay on the wiki, you were my favorite person to talk with. I will be away for 9 months minimum, and will not have access to personal electronics. Saying that, when the nine months are over I would love to talk with you via discord. However, a few things to consider. 1*we will not discuss our personal religious journeys. 2* no one else on wiki should join our discord. The reason behind the first is obvious, religion and mental illness do not mix. The second is many people on the wiki influenced me negatively. I thank you for doing your best, but remember I make impulsive decisions and am easily comvinced to many ideas. I will tell you, I have improved so much over the past 2 and a half months. I cannot get into detail about most of it, but I lost 24 pounds. And in my next destination I will run a triathalon and go through extensive training to work my way up, so I am only getting more healthy. Please do not let bozi or Vinny contact me via my talk page, and I request you encourage someone to continue my conworlds Ethiopian empire dream, preferably viva. I don't hate you or blame you, as it was 80% myself 20% people on the internet, and you played a minor role since I caused it for you compared to bozi and the radicals I met on discord. Yes, we will talk again but only when the time is right. Who knows, I might meet you in person one day but let's both agree not to bring up Christianity. Do not blame yourself, I came to you. Do not blame me, I was too naive lost and down to know better. user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 05:46, August 22, 2017 (UTC)warrioroffreedom123

Re: PMIV Idea
Hey Nathan,

I actually really like the sound of that! It could be seen as sort of retribution for the Pope's toleration of the Hospitaller's High Seas Crusade. We could have the Pope be visiting some small coastal town in Naples like Bari when suddenly the barbary pirates appear. It would be even funnier if they didn't realise they had the Pope for like a year until they heard from European news that they had had him all along. If we're in 1660 now, let's say...1675? With a 1680 re-capture?

Popiuléïçion encricèse ecsponençalie. Popiuléïçion ise inevitablie limitède baï thê mïense of sêbsistênce, inevitablie incriece if thê mïence of subsistence ise incrïecde unlesce it is cheque’d. Thê cheques that kïepe popiuléïçion en-balance are aïthê praîvete (mourales) or distruque’tive (thê feur heursemen of thê Apocalypce) ceuncuest, war, famïene, dethe.

Of went the trapper to Uruk. He explained the whole thing all over again to Gilgamesh, who knew exactly what to do

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Dravidia in PM4
Greetings Nathan

How are you ?

I am posting this message to discuss some possibilities about Dravidia and its future in PM4. These are discussed below- I would like to know the levels of plausiblity of these proposals. Please reply.
 * 1) Dravidian Industrialisation- Replacing Japanese industrialisation ATL, Dravidia is the first Asian nation to industrialise. Helped by developments using the large trade surplus and European contacts to improve technology. Maybe Dravidia can use a few things and develop in a manner that it is able to industrialise around the 1850s.
 * 2) Dravidian Expansion- Replacing Japanese imperialism ATL. Dravidia has a lot of expansion opportunities from the Malay islands (Chola Empire) in the East to Iran in the West. With the help of Swahili, which is an ally, Dravidia can give the east coast of Africa (just south of Swahili's border) a little kiss, which may or may not grow by 1px per year. There are also a bunch of islands (Christmas Island and Cocos Keeling) and non-European territories in the Malay islands and Indochina. Re-emergence of South Indian dominance in Indochina can be a thing. Dravidia can always blockade Iran and retake a part of Balochistan (where the Hindus live). And maybe, just maybe Dravidia can colonize OTL Western territory in Australia while creating a predominantly Dravidian nation between the Zulu Kingdom and Swahili. Dravidia also plans to settle the Christmas Island. The reasons are simple- to reestablish Dravidian superiority in the region and further direct trade. (While the Malay islands and Christamas island lie in Asia so they do not need colonisation confirmation)

DrDrake346 (talk) 07:21, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Hi. I would like to join the game as the country Maghreb but I don not know if it is being played as. Also what is the current technological adbwjce of Europe at this moment

FranzJoseph24 (talk) 21:18, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Nathan. I'd like to ask just four more things: who are the current rulers of the Magreb, is Tunis Magrehbi?, what happened to the colonies and would Barbary priracy be a plausible idea at this point. Cheers :) FranzJoseph24 (talk) 10:32, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

GB in the future: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40779377

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A hybrid can withstand these things

My heart can beat with bricks and strings

My ARTPOP could mean anything

How to join discord ?
Greetings Nathan

I wanted to ask how can we join this discord thing ?

DrDrake346 (talk) 10:41, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I'm here to ask why you gave me a strike for asking for a good diplomatic relations with another player, I hope to understand why, I'm new so I don't what all the rules are 😅 So yeah

Sincerely, The History Nerd

What happened to you when you were playing as Ethiopia?

Nice! So if you do a lot with your nation, and then quit being that nation, does the next person keep your progress? Or can He/She just change stuff? Cause I kinda changed my leader from "Alexander" to "Goliath" and stuff

Nice! So if you do a lot with your nation, and then quit being that nation, does the next person keep your progress? Or can He/She just change stuff? Cause I kinda changed my leader from "Alexander" to "Goliath" and stuff

Okay, yeah I didn't changed any history I don't believe so I should be fine, also who owns the Sinai Peninsula Now? And could I beat them?

Hmm alright, I just got to wait until he comes back, I might just get ignored, people ignore my diplomats a lot.

Also His Name is Goliath because I'm Gonna Start to base The Ethiopian Emperor's Name off Names from the Bible

True, I think I'll change it to Joshua

Hey how Large did you grow the Ethiopian Army and how can I grow My Army? (Sorry I'm very new with this sort of thing 😅)

Alright, thanks I've already thought what to expand on first... the Navy.

So how much did you expand the army too? And how modern (Well, modern as in did they have the Weapons Europeans Used)?

Hmm alright, I believe the army did have Fire arms though as I can see on the Ethiopian empire Page, so I guess I should Try to Get European Support of me to Modernize?

Hey, just wondering, why does it seem people are ignoring by diplomats? Is it because they think I'm not actually Ethiopia and someone else is?

Hey, I use Alt history on my phone and so it's kinda glitchy so it won't allow me to show photos On my Messages, so I can't send people my map of the new land I got for Ethiopia, so idk what to do, cause now I can't have someone update the Ethiopian Empire Page with the new land.

Alright thanks

Discord and Dravidia
Greetings Nate

I would like to join discord. Also I have decided to end the Thuggee nuisance as it ended in OTL. Please do not bring it up next year and please reply to my message.

Regards

DrDrake346 (talk) 13:02, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Uluru in PMIV
I've seen that you've recently resigned from PM4 and that your no longer playing your nation Empire of Uluru. I'm just letting you know that I've signed up for the nation today.

Thanks, Awesome history 28 (talk) 20:20, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

I'm in the middle of reading your nation page and will read some of your posts (a couple from each time period because most of them are the same when in the same decade).

I don't know how to get onto discord. Do you have to download the app on the ipad? I've seen it has replaced the old chat on the wiki but can still use the old chat if you want?

Thanks, Awesome history 28 (talk) 19:02, September 28, 2017 (UTC) Hi Nathan. I'm thinking of returning to PMIV as Magrehb again, I checked it seems to be taken but there hasn't been any posts since. Along with that is Egypt available? Cheers :) FranzJoseph24 (talk) 10:21, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Oh! I'm sorry! I didn't know, please forgive me I thought it was a newer version of the treaty of Baghdad! Sorry, please forgive me

PMIV Question
Hi Nate, I wanted to ask you something about Uluru and also PMIV in general, but it would probably be easier on chat. Can you send me a link to the discord? I can't login to my old account on there, so I'm going to make a new one. Thank you Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 03:43, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, not sure if you missed my first message or not, but if you did can I have an invite t the discord? Sorry to message you again but I'm not sure who else is in charge of the discord so I don't know how else to ask. Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 23:39, October 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Nate, so far you're the only one who has replied to me, after I've asked several people for a link. Do you think you could ask someone on the Discord directly to send me one? It looks like some of the people you mentioned aren't as active at the moment. Thanks, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 22:05, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, but as soon as I joined I was immediately banned. Do you know what is going on? Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 00:18, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

Was he actually being serious about that? I thought he was trying to imply I did a poor job of circumventing his ban, but I didn't even know I was banned, or why I'm banned. I don't want to make the situation worse by just making more accounts further making me look bad, so can you maybe ask him what he means? Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 02:55, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

dont get trigged nate ISSACANGEW (talk) 21:43, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Inca empire age of authority
May I add the inca empire in the Americas to the age of authority? I'm planning on being it.

Alright, thanks.

Hey I'm just asking, do you still have to ask a Map Game committee or whatever to make a map game? Or can you make one by yourself now?

Age of Authority question
When do you think Age of Authority will be Open?

PMIV revolt question
Say, how would a Normal Player in PMIV start a Revolt against a Nation's Authority over a Ethnically or Former Nation's land? Like what would they do? Would they have to ask the Mods or something? I'm just asking

No,no,no. What I meant is what if you're a player without a country and want to create one via a Revolt against a Nation (like say The Player wanted to be Korea, and revolted against China) how would he set that up? Can he do that or not?

Ah alright, thanks.

Discord Serv
Hey Sorry to bother but do you happen to have the invite link/code to the wiki discord, i have been trying to join but i couldn't find a link anywhere.

thx,

Guilhermelcb (talk) 23:47, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

Hawaii in PM4
Hi Nate, I have another question about PM4 for the mods that I've been trying to get answered for a bit now, but maybe the mods I've been messaging are inactive or the wrong ones to ask. Basically I had my first war about a week ago and I found out the other day that it didn't actually happen. As far as I know I did everything correctly, but the war itself is now considered implausible. Do you think you could let me know what's going on? And if it's true that the mods believe the war is implausible would you mind clarifying why? I tried to ask Feud and he basically just said "fuck off".

See here for the details.

Also on an unrelated note, did you find out if/why I'm banned from the discord? It would be a lot easier to talk about this on there if possible. Or on the regular wiki chat even. Anyway, hopefully you read this and let me know. Thanks, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 05:24, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe I don't understand how the strike system works because I thought Scraw or whoever did it was saying I just needed to rewrite my turn, because he didn't issue an actual "strike". He never said the war was implausible, just that I couldn't invent a false flag event, so I made sure it wasn't like that. So I rewrote my turn and pasted it over my old one. In hindsight I could see how that looked like I was just deleting the old one though.

Although many of the Tonga player's actions have been deemed implausible and crossed out, him attacking me was never crossed out/retconned/removed, so the conclusion is that it still occurred. I wasn't trying to go against or ignore a mod's decision. From my point of view I thought Scraw was just telling me to fix my turn and then for the next several turns no mod objected or crossed out anything so I assumed I was good to go. And of course no one except you ever replies to my questions or lets me on chat so I had no way to ask the mods or verify anything, leaving me in the dark for this decision. For the record I think they've been ignoring me long before this war so I don't think me editing the turn is the reason for them being hesitant to help me. Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 06:16, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

Did Josh say when/if he was going to send me that message? Because he hasn't responded to my earlier message or send me anything yet. Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 01:43, October 20, 2017 (UTC)

Marcommani population
What is my Population for marcommani?

Ah, alright, thanks!

Hey Nathan,

Do you know if their is a way to change artical Names? Because I'm looking to change the name of one of my series.

Alright thanks

Age of Authority Question
In Age of Authority is there anything regarding Armenia in recent game events that I should know? In particular, I was wondering how christianized the country is roughly. Thanks, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 20:36, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Help
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Mod response
I still need a mod response and my nation on the map, I will have to change the capital Because Rome occupied the area, which I did not pay attention to, leading to think I was seafaring. I need the mod response still

Map Games
I'm going on vacation, and I was wondering if you could post my next turn in PMIV for me. My PMIV turn for 1829 is here. SolaceEaSw (talk) 14:33, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

Error in your map game
The Kara khitan khanate was the western Liao dynasty when they were ousted from China by the jurchin. They have not taken that name. Kara means “black” or “western” and they clearly mean western in this context.

Hi Nathan.

I’d like to propose something for age of Choa. I’m quite a big Tomb Raider fan myself and in the game you search in the legendary city of Kitzeh and the lore got my thinking. Essentially there is this man who discovers the Divine Source granting him immortality and he gains a following in Comstiqnople in the late 10th century, they are then branded as heretics and flee to Aleppo. But there they are attacked by knights of the Roman Catholic Church, they mortally wound the immortal man but as he’s immortal he survives. They then establish the city of Kitzeh on the Volga River, later the Mongols attack and an avalanche causes the city to sink into a lake.

Kitzeh is legendary city branded the Russian Atlantis, supposedly built by Duke Gregory II in the 1200s then attacked by Batu Khan. My idea these events could be as mod events that allow a person later to play in the city of Kitzeh or someone could actually play as the Order of the Divine Source in Byzantium, then Aleppo then build the city of Kitzeh that then submerged into a lake and then plays as what remains of Kitzehs population.

To get reference, search up Kitzeh on Wikipedia and Tomb Raider Wiki to get an idea of Kitzehs lore. Please feel free to discuss it with me and tell me your thoughts.

FranzJoseph24 (talk) 17:35, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

Could I make my own map game? Or do I need to ask permition?