Talk:Timeline (Heute Europa)

Bit of a space buff, so have a question on "Valkyrie-2".

How does the FIRST manned mission with only two men onboard....start construction on a space station?!?!

History provides SOME hints. Gagarin and Glenn spent a few hours in space floating around, but accomplished little else. Voskhod and Gemini launched multi-man missions, but again, orbited and did little else. It wasn't until Salyut was launched by the Russians and Skylab by the Americans in the early-mid-1970s (10 years after the first manned flight), that a space station was constructed.

I'd leave "space station construction" to ATLEAST the seventh, eighth mission. It would take that long for German scientists to figure out if Man could SURVIVE, much less work, in space.

Also, seems unlikely the space station would be named after Wernher von Braun, who was still alive. Most ships, etc. are named after people who have died. "Bismarck" or "Frederick the Great" Station would be more appropos.---Gare
 * Appreciate the changes, more logical. But, again, sorry to be nitpicking but on the death of the crew of "Valkyrie-5", probably more accurate to say "the CAPSULE exploded" than the "rocket exploded".  More likely too would be failure of the heat shield, not an explosion (unless it was of the re-entry rockets)---Gare

All the Space terminology in this article I have discused with the space-boys over in the science section of the UNI. they assure me that the unstable fuel used in the early rockets could cause the rocket itself to explode. thanks for pointing out the mistakes, i haver grilled the boys in science for giving me all the false info. --- Das Taub

This is NOT a Sci Fi Timeline!

whoever deleted my edits on the timeline, i ask you this. Could you do a better version?

Historically, America has still not reached Mars, and could never reach mars by the 1970s. also the US Space program was driven by ex-german scientists like Von Braun. without them, the US could never get that far. with the massive german lead in rocketry, it would be them, not the Americans, who would reach the moon and mars first. I have been working on this timeline for yonks, and have massively endeered to make his as realistic as possible. what you are doing is turning this into a more sci fi, instead of a nitty gritty timeline about a german/japanese dominated world, and the social and political ramifications of that.

Das Taub

righy Das aub, if i am making it sci-fi, why did you put in the Braun station which was made unrealistically quickly? We are talking about a space station with the technology of 2050 at least, and you get it completed in the 50's with Germany ruling space forever.

furthermore, why then did you delete my section about the USA beginning experiments with Nanotechnology, which COULD be one way of the US compensating for a lack of a space programme?

what about Roswell and the alien tech? that would be at least realistic enough grounds for the USA getting to mars by 1970.

If the US has got alien tech, Which is very unlikely, why haven't they reached amrs yet?. the Von braun space station was a concept during the late 40's and would have been constructed if the germans had won. see the book "my Tank is fight'

maby the aliens never showed up in this timeline

well, why did you delete the segment about rumsfeld? i understand about the Trojan program and the mars bits, but why did you delete the IRA as well?

about the partisans Rumsfeld funds, could you add Al-Qaeda into the mix, which would bite the Americans in the ass later on?

Resistance movements
Wouldn't The IRA and UVF join forces to take on the Germans? Wouldn't Al-Qaeda stir up trouble in the Middle East seeing there are many Muslims there and Maybe the Vietminh would resort to bombing tactics. Maybe the Nazis and Japanese get spread too thin due to rebellions from conquering too quickly and just collapse. Just a few suggestions.


 * I would in spirit of this alternate timeline replace Al-Qa'ida with a Mujāhidīn rebellion. Al-Qa'ida was created in 1988 in the final phase of the Soviet War in Afghanistan. -- Realismadder 11:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

North and South America
About the US becoming another superpower, why don't they band North and South America together as another sphere of influence?

many in south america historically supported the Nazis. this would polarize the continent. also, most latin american countries would be loath to abandon their independance.

overstretch
why do you have the Nazis ruling for all time?

How does Germany afford that space programme? It would have to take loans from Japan and the USA to ensure it can continue on that pace. It would lead to a depression where it is heading.

This Is My Timeline!
America will Never win while i work on this time line. i never wrote this in order to let America win

not being offensive, but are you a neo-nazi?