Alternative History:TSPTF requests

User:Smoggy80

 * Supporters
 * 1) Owen1983 September 6, 2010
 * 2) We sure do need more constables, you've got my vote.--Vladivostok 16:30, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) I'm going to support this, because as Vlad said, more constables are always needed. But I just can't shake the suspicion that Owen made this nomination to gain favor with Smoggy, which he hopes to pool for leverage in his preferred operating region (Northern England) in 1983:DD. That said I might just be being suspicious. Fegaxeyl 16:49, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) I agree with Fegaxeyl, but like he said we do always need more constablesVegas adict 20:07, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) I agree we do need more Constables given the fact we have two & there is great instability in the ranks. Plus Smoggy sounds like a wonderfully qualified candidate and will do a great job I'm sure. --GOPZACK 20:16, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) I'll support this - you've done good work in Britain. And note that I agree with Fegaxyl about Owen. Lordganon 03:54, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Tbguy1992 16:20, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors


 * Discussion

she has been here a while and she helps people out
 * Smoggy must accept this nomination for it to be valid. Mitro 19:09, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

What would i have to do to be one?--Smoggy80 16:31, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * You would be granted rollback power to help you fight vandals and trolls. Mitro 16:37, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds ok to me i accept the nomination--Smoggy80 15:27, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Guys even if Owen nominated Smoggy to get in her good graces, it means nothing. First, I doubt Smoggy would be easily swayed by Owen like that. Second, Smoggy being a Constable has no affect on the operation of 1983: Doomsday anyway. Mitro 04:03, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you all know Owen nominating me will not sway me one bit in his favour. I'm just not that shallow or gullible ;) --Smoggy80 15:40, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

So long as you're aware and remember that that's likely what he was trying for. Lordganon 16:13, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes! It's great that we finally have someone that can't be easily influenced.... or, at least, I hope so. Tbguy1992 16:20, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Owen has told me that he is doing it because he thinks Smoggy is a good editor, not as a move to gain favour. Fegaxeyl 16:30, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lordganon
Hey guys, I was wondering if you guys agree that we need more constables around here, and Lordganon came to my mind. He is a very good editor and very vibrant in the 1983: Doomsday timeline, and is known for his plausible articles which often explore the "backgrounds" of the nations of this timeline. His works are terrific and he always, always has something to say and is always eager to help out. His main problem is how he words things, I find it that he is very sarcastic and sharp-tongued at times, and could possibly ban someone if he got into an argument with them, but nevertheless I think he would make a good member of the Constabulary. Tell me what you think. Arstar 19:42, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters
 * Tbguy1992 19:48, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Zack 21:18, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * BoredMatt 21:37, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oerwinde 21:38, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * BrianD 22:04, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Arstar 08:38, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vladivostok 10:13, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Emperor of Trebizond 19:14, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Smoggy80 12:06, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fedelede 12:42, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mitro 14:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Benkarnell 20:26, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ownerzmcown 00:56, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * XterrorX 13:45, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vegas adict 15:09, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors


 * Discussion
 * Well he will reach his six months in 2 days, so I see no reason to not keep this nomination open. That being said, LG still needs to accept this nomination for it to be valid and I would like to hear about his willingness to root out vandalism and trolls. Mitro 19:54, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * So long as LG accepts he will be a great addition to the TSPTF and I disagree with this "main problem" noted above. We need more straight talkers. --Zack 21:18, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the consideration guys. I do accept it. I've always sought to root out vandals and trolls in my travels around the internet, as a couple of you may have seen around here the few times I've undid vandalism. A task I enjoy, too. I do try to avoid arguments, though I do tend to have a bit of a short fuse sometimes - not than I've ever banned anyone for fighting with me from anything I've modded before, mind. Lordganon 07:12, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since there does not appear to be any objections to this nomination, any objections to waiving the 2 weeks rules? Mitro 19:46, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * My take would be that if we say two weeks, we should do two weeks. It's just four more days.  Benkarnell 20:22, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Red VS Blue
Red has shown through his work on the Stirling Awards that he is willing and able to serve the community and improving the wiki as a whole. Thus I nominate him to be a constable in the TSPTF. Mitro 14:00, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Supporters
 * I have to admit, I was surprised to find out that he wasn't already a member. Lordganon 17:19, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Objectors


 * Discussion
 * Acceptance
 * Thank you, Mitro, for honoring me with a nomination for a position on the TSPTF. I am more than happy to take on the post of Constable in order to do my part in the moderation of this fine wikia. Though I have been pleased lately at the ebbing of acts of vandalism, mostly on account of the expulsion of two particularly nefarious individuals, it is likely that the continued addition of new articles will make the normal vandalism rate on here grow in the future. Therefore, as succinctly put as possible: I accept. Red VS Blue 22:46, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Bob
I have thought this over, and I have decided to withdraw myself from the nominations. I cannot commit myself to this website, no matter how much I'd like to. I am simply not the material you are looking for. I urge you to vote for someone more willing and able to complete the task ahead. South seems ideal. He is focussed, knows his stuff and has an outstandingly wide breadth of knowledge. Thank you. Bob 08:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters


 * 1) I bwlieve he will do a great job in this position, as he has shown to fair, balanced and very helpful to many user, including myself. Tbguy1992 17:02, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Vegas adict 19:19, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) BoredMatt 19:08, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors


 * Discussion
 * A few questions. Has Bob accepted this nomination? If so he does need to explain why he would make a good Lt. Furthemore one of the requirements is that a Lt. be 18 years or older and according to his Facebook page he is only 17 (sorry if this sounds stalkerish Bob but we are friends on Facebook). Nevertheless that requirement will be waived if Bob shows that he has "one and a half years' worth of solid contribution to the site." Bob you are going to have to address that before I vote. Mitro 19:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I must add that this isn't a reflection on the quality of alternate histories offered, because I have had serious concerns about Bob's efforts in that regard at times past. At the same time, Bob has proved tractable by the wider group @ 1983:DD, and I think that Bob could make a fair administrator, provided the questions posed by Mitro are answered. Louisiannan 06:45, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why does age actualy matter Mitro, someones age doesn't affect there ability to be an administrator I knew a Thirteen year old who made a very good Admin on another wiki. Why then does it matter that Bob is 17 if he is capable of conducting his duties as an Admin and explains why he wants to be one? Vegas adict
 * Like all other "job descriptions," there have to be some limits. The fact that a 13 year-old proved to be good at managing a wiki does not mean that he could have the knowledge and experience to monitor the time lines of this wiki. That goes for an unexperienced minor even of the age of 17. In a wiki with such complicated subject matter, maturity matters. Alternate history must be based on facts and research, not fantasy and creativity. Seeing the "big picture" comes with having lived life out in the "real world" - with life experiences and research skills that put an editor and writer to the test. This is not a "power play" on the part of adults, but rather a restraint on over-active imaginations when dealing with problems that arise in real life. SouthWriter 19:49, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * South, someone of seventeen might have just as much experience as someone of eighteen and although facts and research are very important in writing Alternate History creativity isn't allways a bad thing. Its the ability to take a creative/crazy idea and back it up with research and facts that makes a good AH writer. I learned that the hard way doing part of my technology coursework last year as well as on other wikis, there's no reason people younger than 18 and with less than a year and a half's worth of contributions aren't capable of having that mix as well. I suppose i'm continuing with this because i am under eighteen and am trying to prove my point without giving you more to use. P.S why do you use quotation marks so much?Vegas adict 21:11, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * South makes some good points, but also Vegas you need to read the next part of the rule: or have one and a half years' worth of solid contribution to the site. Thus under that guidelines a 13 year old could be an admin as well. I tried to make this as fair as possible to everyone. Also I gave people weeks to comment on this procedure when it was still a proposal. Such a discussion on the rules/requirements is better left to the talk page, but not someone's nomination. BTW, this nomination is not complete yet. Bob still needs to accept it and explain why he should have the job. Mitro 21:13, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am aware of that but to make it truely fair all people applying for Administrator rights should have a year and a half's experience. I am aware that i would not have been able to qualify under that but I am of the belief that neither race, disability, gender or age should effect choosing someone for a job but it should instead be entirely based on there contributions and there relations with other users. I am also aware i should have raised this complaint earlier but when you were asking people to have a look at the new system I was in Devon and Kosovo with very litle internet access. Perhaps this is idealistic but thats what you get for being a member of the UK's youth parliamentVegas adict 21:34, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Age already effects a person's ability to get a job. How many 15 year olds work for major corporations? Not only that but there is age discrimination that is written into the laws of various countries. Drinking ages, driving ages, age limits on joining the military, child labor laws, voting ages, etc. Nevertheless, maybe you are right about the rule, but I am not going to change midway through a nomination. As long as Bob meets the exception then he is good to go. Mitro 21:45, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

SouthWriter

 * Supporters


 * 1) I'm unsure as to whether South would like to be a lieutenant but if he accepts I believe he will be a great leader on this wiki. He has show over the past few months that he is pragmatic, intelligent and clearly understands the rules of this wiki. --GOPZACK 19:19, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Louisiannan 06:43, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) BrianD 13:54, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Vegas adict 19:20, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) XterrorX 15:17, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) BoredMatt 15:39, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) I have decide to support both choices, as both of the nominated are good, fair and balanced editors. Tbguy1992 18:46, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) --Karsten vK (talk) 08:25, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) Lordganon 10:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) I'd be happy to have you on the TSPTF. Mitro 15:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) Bob 18:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) Bill 18:31 (EST), August 16, 2010
 * 13) Unquestionably one of the most qualified guys around. - Mister Sheen 01:50, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) I'm absolutely, 100% sure South will make an excellent member of the TSPTF.--Vladivostok 12:52, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 15) Ownerzmcown 23:24, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 16) Very wise and intelligent, will be a great asset to the TSPTF. Red VS Blue 03:31, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17) I've been actice on the website for...maybe 2 weeks, and already South has helped me improve my timeline, and has been very helpful to me. French Victory 19:31, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 18) Eastward Expansion 19:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors


 * Discussion
 * Has South even accepted the nomination yet? Mitro 14:11, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I accept the nomination. Thanks, Zack. SouthWriter 18:25, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool. So South, why do you want to be a Lt.? Mitro 18:30, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I knew this was coming - based on the guidelines - but have no formal response prepared. So, here is an informal response. As I understand it, the work of a lieutenant is to monitor the articles of the whole wiki - not just the 1983DD time line. This will keep both my creative and editing abilities honed. I presently have some time not available to other editors, so this should not be too much of a strain. This will also free up the constables to do the occasional rollback and deletion of undesirable articles and sections which trolls and vandals seem to love slipping into the wiki at odd times. SouthWriter 19:35, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know we have 2 weeks rule (I should know because I was the one who wrote it0, but considering the overwhelming support. Is there any objections if I close this early and make South our newest admin? Mitro 15:34, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

NuclearVacuum

 * Supporters
 * 1) I think NucVac will be a great Lt, he has lots of experience and is good at dealing with peopleVegas adict 19:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I agree, a very creative editor, good with people, would do great if given the opportunity.--Vladivostok 00:08, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) I have worked with Nuke. He is a good editor and is willing to listen to the concerns of others. SouthWriter 15:40, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) No issues here, he has my vote. Mitro 16:22, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) BoredMatt 19:13, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) My vote too. Eastward Expansion 19:35, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) Ditto. Tbguy1992 20:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) Someone not really involved with DD, but would be a great addition to the Lt positions.Lordganon 21:03, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) I'll take SouthWriter and Mitro's words on this. BrianD 02:28, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10) Of course. - Mister Sheen 13:31, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11) --GOPZACK 18:08, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * 12) I think he has shown great experience and kindness to others (plus where both Irish American) Riley.Konner 16:01, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * 13) He's got my support. --XterrorX 17:21, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * 14) --Bill Potter 9:15, August 27, 2010 (EST)

Lordganon 22:18, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors
 * Discussion
 * For this nomination to be valid, NV must do 3 things: 1) accept the nomination here, 2) explain why he should be elected, and 3) either prove he is 18 years or older or show a year and a half of solid contributions to this wiki. Mitro 03:44, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello there. I am honored to have been nominated to the TSPTF, and I accept my nomination. I would make an excellent addition to the TSPTF because I really love alternate history, and I would love to help out those who love it too. If chosen, I promise to use my powers to protect the time stream, assisting those in need, and capturing and eliminating those who mean harm. I do not recall how long I have been editing here, but I was born in December 1989, and I am currently 20. --NuclearVacuum 12:20, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * How does someone prove  that they're a least 18? Eastward Expansion 19:35, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * The simple answer is that they can't, but Wikia says we must assume good faith and so we doVegas adict 19:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vegas is right, we assume good faith unless proven otherwise. That being said this is the age of social networking. That is how I knew Bob was not 18, I looked on his Facebook profile. Mitro 18:03, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a note about this position, LG. The position up for nomination is for the whole wiki, not just DD. It is good that DD is so popular, but there are other time lines that are quite good -- and others that need close scrutiny by the administrators to keep the wiki relevant. We have constables to deal with the "small stuff" (thanks, Arstar and Yank for the unsung and unseen work you do), but the brass and the lieutenants are responsible for monitoring for time lines that need serious work to come to the standards of the whole Althistory Wiki. SouthWriter 21:28, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of that. All I meant was that it was nice to see someone not involved with DD being nominated. >.>;

To number 13 above. You will have to edit that vote after you log in again, otherwise it will have to be thrown out. Not that it matters to the outcome, but we'd like to know who "62.132.215.49" is. :-)

SouthWriter 16:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * In light of the overwhelming support, any objections to waiving the 2 week rule and promoting Nuke? Mitro 14:02, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * None that I can see. Riley.Konner 16:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

BrianD

 * Supporters
 * BoredMatt 21:38, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oerwinde 08:18, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Lordganon 08:32, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mitro 14:11, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Benkarnell 20:26, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ownerzmcown 00:56, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tbguy1992 02:13, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vladivostok 11:05, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Smoggy80 20:16, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * XterrorX 13:45, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vegas adict 15:09, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Zack 17:37, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors


 * Discussion
 * Brian is well versed in many aspects of this wiki and has worked hard on quality control. He has not shied away from letting myself or other members of the TSPTF know about problems he has encountered with vandalism, other users, etc. One final note, Brian has accepted the nomination. Zack 21:22, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I didn't realize he wasn't already a mod.Oerwinde 08:18, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I accept the nomination, if the community chooses me to be a lieutenant. I joined this wiki for 1983:DD and continue to contribute almost exclusively to that TL, but would be willing to assist with other TLs as requested and needed. I understand the responsibilities that come with being a lieutenant, and wish to carry them out in a helpful and civil manner with all editors. BrianD 17:31, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to answer any questions anyone would have regarding my nomination. BrianD 19:01, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since there does not appear to be any objections to this nomination, any objections to waiving the 2 weeks rules? Mitro 19:47, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Same as above. Benkarnell 20:22, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Lordganon
He is one of the most active Constables currently on the TSPTF. I personally have seen him fight vandalism and take heat from the vandals/trolls who sometimes haunts this site. More importantly he has worked to revert the good faith, but irrelevant, edits by anons who do not understand our rules or culture. He is one of the leaders at 1983: Doomsday and respected across the wiki. If I had one complaint, he could be a little more polite, but no one is perfect. I think he would be a perfect Lt. and he has my support. Mitro 20:40, December 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Supporters
 * I agree with everything said above. It will be great to have you as a part of the team. Zack 23:58, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * LG quickly established himself as a leader on this wiki and definitely deserves it.Oerwinde 10:43, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * LG has shown that he is more than deserving of admin status. Mitro said it well. BrianD 17:18, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * You couldn't ask for much better in a Lieutenant. He has a clear knowledge of history which always helps, but like the rest of us he gets annoyed with those few who spoil it for the rest of us, but unlike some of us, he does something about it. He is more than willing to help us when we ask, giving up his time to help our projects. Mumby 17:43, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * LG has done enough to prove that he will make an excellent Lieutenant, he deserves the recognition for the work he has done as a constable dealing with the trolls and vandals recently--Smoggy80 18:59, December 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors
 * Discussion
 * I accept the nomination, Mitro, and once again, thank you for the honor. I'm a few years over 18, so that is satisfied. As for why I would like to be a Lt..... well, for starters I've had several instances (as Mitro noticed) where things have been done around here - for instance, one guy kept insulting me one night last week as I fought his sci-fi future histories - and I've only been able to do little about it. I tend to be active on here more often than not during the night, meaning that I do tend to be the first to see a lot of this stuff, and It'd be nice to be able to do more than tell Mitro, or someone else, about it. It would be nice to be able to actually back up warnings I give for things like that (vandals, naming conventions, etc) too, lol. Lordganon 21:08, December 13, 2010 (UTC)