User talk:Yankovic270



Alliances
Ask the Danish and/or the others for help. Hell, Russia could back you up for thepromise of keeping any lands it gains if the war does spark, although all lands would be in Europe. --DaBigUn 04:30, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Weird Al
I am also a fan of Weird Al, however, my research places him around Southern California, so most likely he is dead in the 1983DD world. That is unless you have proof that he was away from a target area in 1983. Mitro 04:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing personal, but the TL is a dystopia. Try researching to find out if he was somewhere else when DD happened.  Mitro 13:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

You may want to check this out: President Yankovic. Mitro 16:05, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Virginia
I just got back from a wedding this weekend, so I'll probably look at the chages on Monday. Mitro 21:41, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I reviewed your changes and took the liberty to make some changes/additions of my own. Obviously you have the right to disagree, but I hope you consider them at least.
 * First, I shrunk the size of the state. Considering the radiation likely to effect the region, along with social instability, the entire area needs to be shrunk to the most rural parts of the area if any state hopes to survive.
 * Second, I replaced Myers with MG Thompson, the historical commander of the 101st airborne at the time of Doomsday. To go along with the new size of Virginia I had him relocate the 101st to West Virginia and after taking Charleston, using it as a base for further conquest.
 * Third, I dropped references to Fort Knox. Honestly I don't think the fort would be much use to Thompson.  Trade with Superior would be a trickle at best and without a working port he would not be able to trade with the outside world.  He may secure the fort and take the gold for later use, but in the long run it is very unimportant for the survival of the state.
 * I made some other changes as well and added some ideas of my own. If you find these changes satisfactory I can see what I can do about getting this graduated.  Mitro 21:20, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, but then again maybe not. People with the skills you list are already in short supply in OTL, and there won't be that many just randomly wandering around 2 decades after Doomsday. Many would probably have already establshed themselves in smaller survivor communities, raised families, maybe even reached positions of power or influence themselves because of their knowledge. They would be teachers as well as practicioners of their expertise. Why would they give that up to move to a military dictatorship? Granted its possible the place they live now is not much better, or even worse, but once a place is home its hard to leave. Also why is Norfolk intact? The largest naval base in the world is located there and NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic is there. I feel it would have been hit by a Soviet nuke and it is marked on the Doomsday report as being hit. Plus it is still some distance from Virginia as it is. The Virginians would have to secure and rebuild the instrature in most of Virginia before they could get to the nuked city and then they would have to rebuild the port facilities that have been destroyed by the nuclear bomb. That is going to take years in not decades. It would make more sense to go to a smaller Virginian port. Mitro 17:51, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hey I am from WV (or in Doomsday, Virginia). I assumed Wheeling would be a state. So here is a American Senater from WV named Robert Byrd and I want to know if I can add him into the story.

War in Canada
I honestly don’t think Virginia will be involved in the upcoming war in Canada. Though closer then New Britain, they are still relatively far that supply and transporting any soldiers there would be a logistical nightmare (especially since it would have to be done on land). The cost would also be too much for the Virginia economy to bear. Also much like New Britain they have nothing to gain from going to war. Virginia likely has little to no contact with either Saguenay or Canada so declaring war or not would effect little of their relationship with either party. They would gain no territory from this or any other benefit if they were on the side that won. Mitro 18:57, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Niverville
To answer your question, I really don't know. I'm not an expert on nuclear weaponry, perhaps you should ask someone else. However, as only one nuke hit Winnipeg, I think you have a pretty good chance. --DarthEinstein 22:51, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Neues Deutschland
Just some example sentences to show the difference between "neues Deutschland" and "Neudeutschland":

Oskar Lafontaine versprach dem Menschen ein neues Deutschland.

Oskar Lafontaine promised the people a new Germany.

Neues Deutschland therefore refers to a revitalised, improved Germany. Not so much a new country in its own right. An ideal name therefore to be the name of a newspaper, or to use for hollow election promises.

Die Siedler gründeten Neudeutschland.

The settlers founded New Germany.

And this the kind of New Germany you were referring to, a new country in its own right. I guess the only way to distinguish between the two is the capitalisation of the N in "New". Please keep in mind that these translator machines are only good for passive reading, and even then they can twist the very meaning of a text. --Karsten&#160;vK (talk) 12:38, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Cave City
You and GOPZACK have my blessing to use Cave City in regards to your respective countries. --BrianD 19:03, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Future of Cave City
I want all of old Kentucky, parts of old Missouri, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio and Arkansas. You can do what you will with Tennessee, West Virginia, Virginia and parts of Ohio, North Carolina. I say we split old Fort Campbell 50/50. I'll take the parts in Kentucky you can have the Tennessee part. I also think our two nations should forge closer diplomatic connections. --GOPZACK 01:55, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

If you would like a road through Kentucky so you can get to Fort Campbell The Commonwealth of Kentucky would be interested in giving you such a road. I apologize if I came across as a bully that was not my intention. I want nothing but good strong relations between our two nations I just want some set boundaries for our respective nations--GOPZACK 04:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

If you would like to visit the Patton Museum, if by Patton Museum you mean an abandoned building with all the resources stripped from it your more then welcome to visit anytime. As for a capital I'm thinking Lexington and whoever the mayor is of Lexington would probably do. Now the area in white represent areas under Kentucky Control The areas in the yellow box are territory Kentucky claims. We also reserve the right to expand into Indiana, Illinois and Missouri as we see fit. Thus giving you part of Kentucky and ALL of Tennessee --GOPZACK 16:03, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Ah I see, perhaps we would give you a copy of the blueprints for something in return? Like I said we are interested in forging closer relations --GOPZACK 16:26, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

The Deal
As for what I would like I want two things. #1 I would like all of Kentucky not in a shaded color and #2 an alliance between our two nations. --GOPZACK 20:29, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I believe such an arrangement can be made for a road. Now seeing as we both want an alliance between our two nations would you be willing to spilt old Fort Campbell 50/50 then we could both invest in it's renewal saving you money. Our two nations could run joint exercises and such does that interest you? --GOPZACK 04:14, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Very good sir I think we should finalize some type of treaty very soon--GOPZACK 17:43, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I just saw your idea for a "Southern Compact" or the "Dixie Accord" that could be the name of such a treaty--GOPZACK 17:45, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Portland, Tennessee
I agree, I say we make joint statement announcing our support for them. My expedition teams should be in the area very soon. --GOPZACK 18:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yank, please see comments on southern United States/Portland/"Southern Pact/Dixie Accord" under General Discussion on the 1983:DD talk page. There are a ton of ideas here that I think are worth exploring.--BrianD 19:12, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Tile mistake
oh don't worry about it, it's fine --GOPZACK 18:53, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Formal Boarder
Just to confirm you only claim the parts of Kentucky that were colored on that map correct? If so lets make that the formal boarder --GOPZACK 18:02, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps OTL Congressman Hal Rogers (R) could be the governor. As for the capital Pikeville could work, the mayor of Pikeville could be the governor as well. --GOPZACK 20:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Alright I've made a formal map of our two nations based off of the info you've provided. I'm unsure what territory you control in North Carolina and Tennessee so if you could let me know that would be great and I'll add it in. --GOPZACK 18:40, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I've added in your North Carolina Claims and my proposed plan to divide the former state of Ohio --GOPZACK 00:51, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I can do that, I also recommend if you've got any territorial gains in mind you do them soon before the LON claims them or protects them --GOPZACK 02:14, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yes we are. don't worry about all that other crap :) --GOPZACK 16:56, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

New map
Sorry, I've been busy and haven't been working on it much. I think this week sometime I'll finish it up though. I'm sorry for how long it has taken. --DarthEinstein 17:00, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Republic of Iowa
I just wanted to say thanks for finishing the article of for me and i hope you have a good thanksgiving --Owen1983 04:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ohio
Kentucky would like Ottawa County other then that it's fine --GOPZACK 02:00, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Let's go back to splitting adams county then. Besides if Kentucky was to get Ottawa county you still hold a large strip of land along the Erie Shoreline --GOPZACK 02:53, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thought
Here's a thought, a joint Virginia/ Kentucky exploration of Washington D.C, hmm? --GOPZACK 02:29, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Virginia Flag
Sorry Yank but I am going to have to decline your request to be a judge. I am going to be disappearing for a few weeks and won't be able to properly judge the flags. Mitro 22:29, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sure I'll be a judge --GOPZACK 22:51, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Chumash republis
I was reading that you had difficulty in adding the Chumash Republic to the world map and i am pleased to announce its been added to the map i proposed --Owen1983 17:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blog
Yank, that blog post was really not the best way to handle the situation, that is why I deleted it. Now I believe your right and that Mr. X overreacted a little by your comment, but he said on my talk page he is not looking for an argument. I would suggest dropping it because making this bigger then it really is a waste of time. Mitro 02:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Map
Could you please fill in on this map which territory Virginia controls? --GOPZACK 02:08, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Presidents of the CSA
Please refrain from expanding or editing upon the article, because I have not completed it yet. You have been expanding upon my article and adding things that I have not agreed to and putting in things that are against my ideas. As the author of this timeline, I support that you are inspired by my timeline to the point in getting involved. But please bring your thoughts to the talk pages, and not taking it on the fly. Thank you very much for your cooperation. —Comic Sans MS&quot;; color:#00FF00" _rte_style="font-family: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; color:#00FF00" _rte_attribs=" style=&#039;font-family: Comic Sans MS; color:#00FF00&#039;"&gt;Nuclear Comic Sans MS&quot;; color:#0000FF" _rte_style="font-family: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;; color:#0000FF" _rte_attribs=" style=&#039;font-family: Comic Sans MS; color:#0000FF&#039;"&gt;Vacuum  15:11, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Gift
I think thats a great idea but I think Bunning would use this estate in Virginian Kentucky as a vacation residence while keeping his main residence in Kentucky. Also Bunning may be leaving the Presidency in January of 2011 his public life is by no means over. I may use him as a goodwill ambassador or something. --GOPZACK 19:54, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea but before I sign onto this I would like to know the fully plan for this alliance. Like the members, goals ect ect... --GOPZACK 22:05, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I can support this so long as the member states have their sovereignty protected and have the right to leave the alliance at anytime without fear of being reprimanded. --GOPZACK 19:52, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Very well, I give you the green light. Start a page, add it to the list of proposals and we'll see what happens. --GOPZACK 21:11, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Unstable Earth
You can go ahead and join. Welcome to Unstable Earth! Dr. 8-Bit 23:46, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Unstable Earth is mostly ASB, but it has a specific kind of ASB: things randomly teleporting through time and space. Note "randomly" - time travel is uncontrollable to those who live *there*. It also will soon have some regular PODs once Mr.Xeight edits some stuff. A Nazi Antarctica could work, though they almost certainly aren't time-traveling - also, please check my and Mr.Xeight's talk pages, as I just brought up the concept of Nazis. So far it's looking like they worship mushrooms (just like all of the west) and hate Christians instead of Jews. Dr. 8-Bit 01:32, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, that makes more sense. Sure, just so long as they don't affect the rest of the world too much. Dr. 8-Bit 01:52, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Vietnam
Wow, that's strange. I was also planning on doing an article on Vietnam. Except, I planned on going the oposit direction with the communists surviving and formin a loose union with Laos and Cambodia, similar to ATL SAC or the Nordic Union. I had an early draft of the story, but maybe it would be more interesting to see a democratic, capitalist Vietnam emerge. In my opinion, Hanoi wouldn't be nuked, it wasn't that important. But regardles if it was or wasn't, you could say that the government fell because of the Chinese flocking into Vietnam. Oh, and could you perhaps tell me if you would like to do any other countries in Indochina? Because I had a few plans for other nations.Vladivostok 05:54, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that Vietnam is not a heavy hitter doesn't matter. They are still a Soviet ally and like the Warsaw Pact nations, Afghanistan, North Korea and others, they will likely be targeted on Doomsday.  Mitro 14:12, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

WV Targets
I had my doubts about the hotel, but the steel mills could be a likely target. The point of the Nike missiles were to protect against Soviet bombers carrying nuclear weapons. Yes the ICBM made them obsolete, thus the Soviets would just send an ICMB against the steel mills in WV. I used Nike missile site as an example to show how the steel mills of south Chicago were important targets. I don't understand why you think the introduction of the ICBM would make them a non-target.

Also there is a big difference between a product that is made and a natural resource. It would be impossible to destroy a natural resource like coal, but it is possible to destroy the factories that make steal. It is these factories that made the US a world power and I doubt the Soviets would leave such useful resources to whatever is left of the US. That is why many of the large cities would be destoryed, not because of their populations but what they provide to the United States government and military. Mitro 21:09, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Virginia/Portland contingent thrown out of Jackson at gunpoint
How shall the Dixie Alliance respond to this? --GOPZACK 05:05, February 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I expect that Virginia won't take this lightly. For all of the perceptions of Virginia floating out there, Jackson is ten times crazier (without the tanks and 20th century weapons). This isn't anywhere on the wiki, yet, but Jackson is run by a bunch of survivalists and crazed Army vets who managed to get order in the region, then shut the place down (they kicked out Portland reps sometime in the 1990s - I do think there's some reference to that ont he Portland page or the Tennessee page). As I said, the nutjobs don't have tanks, but that didn't keep them from trying to build their own...so there's an opportunity for one of you guys to draw up a scenario with the Thompson tank versus the Jackson "tank". Use your own imagination as to what that thing looks like :) BrianD 05:23, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

A Thought
There is a place called the Raven Rock Mountain Complex in southern Pennsylvania just south of Gettysburg which was meant to serve as a "underground Pentagon in the event of a nuclear war. By the time of Doomsday this facility no longer held the same importance that it did in the 1950's and 60's. From what I know Virginia controls the Maryland panhandle correct? If so this place could still exist and is worth exploring. Perhaps with a bit of restoration it could serve as the HQ for the Dixie Alliance. --GOPZACK 04:27, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Heres another possible location, the National Audio-Visual Conservation Center. Which I believe is in Virginian territory.--GOPZACK 21:25, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not use The Greenbrier Hotel? It has the benefit of being in the core territory of the member, plus it likely still has some of the equipment that would have been used for communications, etc. in case of nuclear war. Its also probably in pretty good shape compared to anything outside DA member territory. Furthermore we know it survived Doomsday. Mitro 22:16, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

So long as Yank doesn't take issue I'm fine with that. --GOPZACK 22:24, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

PUSA
Yank most of what you have said has been said before (in one form or another) by myself and others, but this "endless stream of naive fools" you mention is something that I think only you noticed. No offense man but from my POV what happened on Talk:Provisional United States (1983: Doomsday) was that a new user made a suggestion and you jumped down his throat. Consider our first interaction. Consider how you felt when I orginally nominated the first version of Virginia for deletion (then known as the Washigton Empire) instead of talking with you first. It was a mistake on my part and I apoligized, but now you have gone and made the same mistake I made. Also would you have reacted the same way if that same new user did not mention Virginia? Just some food for thought. Mitro 19:27, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

King Andrew in Assiniboia
Yeah thats fine, the idea was that King Andrew is going to spending a few months in each of his royal dominions to try and forge closer relations. Bob 16:44, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Steel
It would be too costly to rebuild steel mills that were destroyed during a nuclear war. It would make more sense just to build some new ones somewhere else. Mitro 03:14, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reverting your Revert
Yankovic - I don't know if you celebrate today's holiday, or that you're even aware of what today's holiday is, but I've reverted your revert of Ben's post about the ANZC going commie. Louisiannan 18:19, April 1, 2010 (UTC) ROFLMAO! happy April Fools Day!18:39, April 1, 2010 (UTC)Wingman1

East Africa/Sudan
I'm creating a Sudanese sucsessor state in South Sudan and i'm wondering what your ideas on what happened in Sudan after doomsdayVegas adict 14:36, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

One thing to remember would be that Sudan was allready in a civil war at the time of doomsday between the Sudan Peoples Liberation Army and the governmentVegas adict 14:58, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Dixie Alliance
Remember the Dixie Alliance is a joint venture between you & me, any offers of military assistance or any other type of involvement regarding the Dixie Alliance needs to be run by me. I don't mean to be a nag or anything I just want to remind you I have a seat at the table as well. --GOPZACK 02:28, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

New Richmond
I think they would never move to a "New Richmond." Remember that the Virginian Republic is centered on West Virginia, not Virginia. This is the same West Virginia that seceded from the state of Virginia to stay with the union during the Civil War. They really are not that tied to Virginia history after that point and I really doubt they would be trying to make themselves look more like the Old Dominion. The current capitol of the VR is likely to be their capitol for a long time. Mitro 18:17, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Help with Images
Hi, I have a question with trying to get the little flags in an info box for a battle, as in my article Rhineland Conflict. I have France's flag in, but I can't get the Prussian flag to show up!

If you could help me, or refer me to someone else who could help, that would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks Tbguy1992 16:44, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Fargo
Hey, Yank. After seeming to have come to an agreement on Fargo, you changed the text back to stating that Fargo "voted to become part of Assiniboia." I thought I had made myself clear, Fargo is an important part of North Dakota - its biggest city and uneffected by the bombing of the air bases and silos in the northern part of the state. You are basing Assiniboia on an old map made by the first claimants of the land, and not on any activity that would be likely to re-establish those exact boundaries.

I am proposing that a line, drawn across the north boundaries of McLean, Sheridan, Wells and Eddy counties (North 47° 50') would be a good boundary. The lower halves of Nelson and Grand Forks counties would be south of that line, and could either go with North Dakota or Assinobia. I figure that land has mostly been abandoned anyway, but some of the villages in the latter two counties might want to keep the whole counties under local control.

When Zack asked me to help in the Dakotas, I assume that a viable remnant remains east of the Missouri -- of both states. Unless there is a very good reason, I don't think we should relinquish Fargo to Assiniboia. SouthWriter 17:23, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

List of National Historic Landmarks in Virginia
I added a few locations to the Cumberland & you can find more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Kentucky --GOPZACK 20:16, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

New Articles
Please don't forget to make mention of these new articles on the main discussion page. --GOPZACK 20:48, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

please read and comment on Russian Empire (Constantine's Russia). Please? --Catherine 22:28, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

I am tired of your shit. Please read Russian Empire (Constantine's Russia). I would appericate it. --Catherine 04:31, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse my language, but f*ck you! I am sorry you don't like it. That is your choice, mr. yankovic270. Fuck it. --Catherine 04:54, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

What the fuck is the meaning for our argument. I am sorry. --Catherine 05:09, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Alright then/

I also have a question. I do not mean to be rude or anything..What gender are you? --Catherine 05:16, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

A girl. --Catherine 05:23, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Are you shocked at the news you just recieved? --Catherine 05:36, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

well, have a good day/or night, depending on which part of the US you're living in. --Catherine 05:42, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado, United States. --Catherine 05:47, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Foolish Canadian. You keep on changing what I post, which I do not like. Next thing you know, your saying "Calthrina950 is a wuss, and I am going to mess with her," Bastard. Excuse my language. --Catherine 15:58, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Why do you keep on changing what I add? You are acting like a little baby. --Catherine 16:53, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Fool! --Catherine 17:07, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the Arguments
I am sorry for what I said to you, our arguments, etc. I will not say anything hostile you anymore, and will try to state my opinions in a clear and civilized manner, or I won't say them at all. --Catherine 19:23, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Why do you keep on deleting what I add? I aleready apologized, and I will do so on the main page. --Catherine 20:54, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to, it's your turn on Human Evolution (Map Game). --Catherine 14:58, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Please write the next turn for Human Evolution (Map Game). --Catherine 00:17, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Your turn again on Human Evolution (Map Game). --Catherine 00:35, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Do not forget your turn on Human Evolution! I get tired of waiting for some 20 minutes for you to post your turn, then I post it quickly, then I wait another 20 minutes for you to post another turn. --Catherine 01:18, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

"I will post when I feel like it"
Well, posting when you feel like it is once every hour, and that get's boring. Other people are not online for it. And it took you about 16 minutes just to post a reply to the comment I leave you. And it might take you like a hour to post a comment for this one. So, post when you feel like, if you want to. --Catherine 01:23, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

French response
I didn't see anything about you owning Florida, too bad...Smallpox 03:36, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

We will stop hostilities once we have Neu Prussia again, France could not just sit idly as another of her colonies is engulfed, that would bring great shame, if I had just let you take the Floridian Colony France's government would have lost face, it's a good moral boost to...Smallpox 04:03, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

No. Despite what you think, you are wrong. Neu Prussia is not, and will never be a Prussian colony. It is a Prussian colony stolen from its evil owners. I ask you to forget about Neu Prussia, and concentrate on improving the colonies you earned...Smallpox 04:25, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yankovic, stop editing MY TURN, what you're doing is against the rules, don't make me report you...Smallpox 04:45, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fine, since your being such a scrooge about it, I'll let you keep your territiry, but in exchange Prussia must sign a non-aggression pact with France and pay for damages...Smallpox 04:48, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Truth, Honor, Valor, and Dignity. All of these traits, these shards of divinity are held within all of us. Yet you ground them to dust, as an alchemist does with pestle and mortar! Vileness and cruelty are your succor, and so, as it has been for centuries, I stand against you as my ancestors did, and will lay you low, so that your blight will no longer scar my world...Smallpox 04:55, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, hello, you attacked MY FLORIDIAN COLONY FIRST...Smallpox 04:57, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Do not play dumb with me, I know you're smarter than that...Smallpox 05:05, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Do you truly seek to frighten me with your mad ramblings? There is only one deity here, and I am she. How many times have you refused my gifts? I have pressed the very keys to paradise in your hand, and you threw them in the dirt. Enough! I will have my satisfaction as my claws caress your steaming entrails, worm!...Smallpox 05:05, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I have been waiting too long for your turn on Human Evolution (Map Game). --Catherine 05:04, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see that!...Smallpox 22:44, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

TOO LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My lord, man. You are taking soo damn long!!!!!!!!!!!! --Catherine 18:07, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fuck. Don't you tell me to fuck myself any-time soon. --Catherine 18:32, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fuck you, child-like Canadian. Since you called me a Yankee bitch, I might as well call you a royalist bastard, kissing the Queen of fuckin England's hand, and saying "Oh My Majesty, you are the supreme ruler, oh god lord...............god god god, you have all the prestige and honor." --Catherine 19:04, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

How dare you say something about my country! For all I know, the queen heavily influences the government of England, and she says "The Prime ministers runs the government in my name" while the bastards go up and ask her "advice", in which she says "I want you to sign that treaty" or "I won't let you pass that law". --Catherine 19:15, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I am not Ignorant, Fool!
For your information, I have read about the histories and government of Great Britain, both in school and at home, for I love history. Canadian history I am bored in. Anyways, Americans are not ignorant, and you do realise that the United States can bomb Canada and Britain to kingdom-come and back again. So can Russia. We actually have the strongest military AND economy on the planet, while you depend on American exports more then anything else. And we are self-sufficent in natural resources, but we try to fully exploit them. So bastard, Canada could one day be annexed by America, and one day you will be able to elect a President, just like us! Your Prime Minister is not directly elected by you, he is appointed by the Queen (or in her absence, the Queen's Governor-General), according to which party has the most seats in Parilament. He basically has no offical status, and is only a de facto (in opinion of the people and government) office, while de jure Prime Minister's position doesn't even exist! So there is a stupid American for you, you little foolish Canadian! --Catherine 19:35, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

He surely is a blemish to the Canadian image...Smallpox 22:45, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Why the Hell do we keep fighting?
I wonder why we keep arguing over things. I am tired and irritated of it, but every time I apologize, I then do something to provoke it again. Perhaps we just not contact each-other. Or we should just sign a deal over these manners. All of this stuff makes no fuckin sense. --Catherine 21:24, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well alright then. We might as well have some distance between us. --Catherine 21:42, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yea sorry about that

BoredMatt 23:24, June 1, 2010 (UTC)BoredMatt

Bahamas
There are enough islands in the Bahamas for both of us, I think, you tell me...Smallpox 20:47, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

You have to write the stuff down when you do that, I'll give you more of the Islands on the map now though, if that's okay with you, of course...Smallpox 21:08, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Colonization Map Game
From now on, I'm going to help you expulse Smallpox from your old colonies. Fedelede

What? I haven't stole any of his colonies lately (heh heh, sorry!), have I? Also, no need to bring personal feelings into a GAME, if that's what you're doing. Also, from what I gather, Prussia and France are getting along swimmingly right now...Smallpox 00:37, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Generating animosity towards your allies, good plan, Again, I'm sorry, but get over it, it's a game...Smallpox 00:59, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Russia and Prussia
I know it seems a little much, but if the borders are agreed upon, then the Tsar of Russia (ME!!) well be OK with that. After all I dont wish to make enemies of new friends. Also if anyone else is in the alliance that was not previously mentioned in my post where I set the boarders then do tell me.--DaBigUn 03:39, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

if a war would to happen, would Prussia declare neutrality, as they have more to loose then France and are far enough away to not worry about any of their colony being attacked, but they do boarder Russia (or at least and allie of the motherland) back in Europe. This is not meant to be a threat, just an assessment.--DaBigUn 15:47, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

How do I join?
I was thinking about becoming a contributor for 1983DD, and I was wondering if you could tell me how to join. I've already read all of pages they tell you to read but I'm not sure how to sign up. Could you tell me? I knoe the red text below says otherwise, but if you search the wiki, you'll find my page.

-Ownerzmcown

Deletion?
Read the introduction, Yank! This time line specifically leaves out the "cross" or any other intervention of the Creator. The timeline MUST advance with NO interference from any supernatural source whatsoever. The fact that I require that the timeline has to be within the perimeters of the Biblical record does not make it a "violation" of the No Cross No Crown "rule."

EVERYTHING in this time line proceeds on an assumption that man is ON HIS OWN. I am only starting from the premise that the record in Genesis 1 and 2 is true. That should not be a "crime" in this forum.

If I must, I can begin my own wiki. But I don't won't to have to go there. Althistory.com is a fine place to work. What say the rest of you folk? SouthWriter 17:21, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Croatia
Hey Yank, I'd like for you to check out the changes I made to Croatia. I somehow feel that a bloody ending to Yugoslavia would be much more plausible than a peaceful one. Make no mistake that the OTL Yugoslav war was waged to in the name of some ideal of a joint state of South Slavic nations, it was simply a Serbian attempt at creating a "Greater Serbia". Thus, it would have most likely happened in this TL as well.--Vladivostok 09:54, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

1600
Dude don't edit ahead in the map games BoredMatt 22:43, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Virginia (1983DD)
Actually dude, the fiberglass-stocked M-14A2's that the Armory in Winchester were producing beats the AK family in several respects:

Accuracy: Have YOU ever fired off an AK? The bullet is designed for punching through unarmored flesh at less than 200 yards. After 300, the round stops in it's revolutions and typically goes flying off to the right.

With an M-14, I can put in a group of 5 at 300 yards in 8 inches square in ten seconds. And I'm only 14!

Firepower: If you are of the spray-and-pray denomination, then I can't argue with that. The AK would literally blow any assault rifle away at under 50 yards. But when you consider the sheer destructive capabilities of the 7.62x51/.308 Winchester, it is, IMO, the best round ever designed for an assault/battle rifle.

Ease of use: In 1983, there was only 7 establishments in the US with the correct tooling to produce AK's. 5 were scattered out west, one was in New York, and the other was in Springfield, Illinois. How would Virginia make them? And, if Virginia is as jingoistic as you described, then why would they use a Communist weapon? I know that they just want the best for their troops, but still!

And on the M-16, I agree. The A4 version is actually not that bad, but the rest......no comment.

BoredMatt 13:22, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes the FAL is great, (the only reason why the US didn't adopt it is because FN wouldn't release the tooling for it, they finally liscenced it in 1990). I have no problems with the AK's reliability, but there is no way that Virginia can suddenly start producing them out of nowhere (the closest area where the plans would have been kept un-nuked would have been a place in Texas) and the manpower and time needed to either

A: Retool the armory in Winchester from producing the excellent M-14 (as well as the ammo, where are you going to find a deal like that?) to the AK, while not having the blueprints for it.

B: Start a factory from scratch without the plans for the tooling, while ignoring the perfectly good factory in Winchester.

I just don't see why someone as intelligent as your Colonel completely ignoring a ready-made factory producing a great gun (and the ammo) that was untouched by DD and redesigning the AK from some 20-year-old technical report by the NSA, setting up a completely new factory for it, and training the troops on it, when nobody under his command has any experience actually using the gun. BoredMatt 14:17, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Winchester, VA, in the northern Shanendoah. As I said before, it was closed down in either 87 or 88.BoredMatt 14:48, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

And an AK looks more anachronistic than an M-14? And why the hell would Virginian troops wear civil war uniforms? WTF? We've got a lot of re-enactors here, but there is no practical reason why they would wear them. If they're centered around the 101st/West VA, wouldn't you think they would at least wear fatigues or hunting clothes? You didn't really explain the AK thing, either. BoredMatt 15:09, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Plus, this being f***ing Virgina, why the hell would you have them wear Union uniforms? They would be shot on site in most places!

Also, if, hypothetically, Virginia suddenly started producing AKs out of nowhere, then why couldn't they string together some camo fatigues? No matter how much the uniforms give the soldiers a history lesson, (namely, how itchy and hot the soldiers were, Virginia being so fucking humid right now that right now if I go outside it feels like I'm swimming through the air), dark blue in the forests of Virginia doesn't exactly work out too well. I've tried it when I go paint-balling, and.......it doesn't work.

If YOU knew your history (or basic geography), you would realize that Virginia does not produce cotton, they produce tobacco (44% of the entire nation's!!). Also, W. VA would probably only have 1/3 of Virginia's population (you've got a good bit of Virginia proper, plus Tennessee), plus, again, how exactly would wearing civil-war era clothing be in any way beneficial to the military.

And on an alternative fabric, that's fine, but you can't just make up things to reinforce your argument. BoredMatt 15:49, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, Matt, he can! But then, his is more fictional than some in TTL. --SouthWriter 17:15, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, then, answer me this: We're talking about West Virginia here, so there is bound to be countless militias with various camo clothing. Plus, West VA is deer hunting central for the entire east coast, it would make sense for the Republic to just say, "We need uniforms, could you give us your hunting gear?", as opposed to the Republic saying, "We need uniforms, let's set up a factory to produce civil war fatigues that haven't been improved on in 120 years, that hold no potential benefits for us other than being relatively cheap to produce, using an entirely new material that would have to have it's own factory to produce it." And, of course, there is the small matter of getting the material needed, and to process it. BoredMatt 16:21, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why not have fatigues like this:


 * You know, Yank, this young man has you going around in circles! It is a bit hard to read the conversation, looking between user talk pages and all, but I get the gist of the arguments being made. The weapon of choice is going to be the one readily available, especially with a young economy like that of the Virginian Republic. Since he seems to be a native Virginian, I would go with his suggestions if I were you. The general nature of the of the article need not change, but it would be a lot more realistic if we listened to some learned advice.


 * Perhaps, if the regime had wanted to process plant life for fiber, the abundant crops of tobacco, having lost most of their market, could be used in some way. If not, perhaps this would necessitate the opening of trade with the Piedmont Republic, at the time still a major textile producer with the added bonus of some cotton fields to the south of its "official" borders. That would in turn foster exploration by the Piemontan government to acquire more of this resource. --SouthWriter 17:15, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yugoslavia in general
Hey Yank, I'd really like to hear your plans for this region, and perhaps if I could write about the rest of the region. Right now, I'm in the dark regarding your ideas and/or wether you had any questions about the one's you are currently writing. Remember, If you have any questions about the region, don't hesitate to ask.--Vladivostok 06:52, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I somehow feel Slovenia wouldn't be to thrilled about that. Believe me, they are better of being a close ally of the Alpine Confederation. Serbia in a union with Montenegro, that I totally agree with you. Perhaps there would be a partition of Kosovo between the various ethnic groups? Just thinking out loud. Oh, and in an ideal world, some form of Bosnia would be free.


 * As for myself, I'd probably be doing what I'm doing now. Trying desperately to get into university and major in English and Russian studies. Oh, and on a side note, do you realize we are currently two of the oldest users, alongside Oer perhaps, that are active on DD83 at the moment?--Vladivostok 10:39, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I feel like an interloper here, but this "conversation" showed up on my watch list (Yank's work is crucial to the time line!). Anyway, I assume Vlad means that you two have been writing for longer than most on this time line. If "old" was according to "age" I probably have you all beat. As for you in TTL, Vlad, why don't you insert yourself in the story line, or at least put yourself on the "Honorary Citizens" page. --SouthWriter 13:17, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Exactly what I was thinking. So, we are agreed,the current Yugoslavia page will reflect the changes after we create and graduate the various articles, while the Serbia article would naturally have to change its name into Serbia and Montenegro. The only catch is that I'll have to come up with an idea regarding Venice, as it controls Istria, a peninsula which is a part of Croatia. Now, I suppose I could leave that to instability and the native Italians living their, I'll flesh that part out in the post-Yugoslavian war part of the history. So, how do we go about this? I'll do Croatia and Slovenia, you do Serbia and Montenegro and Macedonia and we end Bosnia together?
 * And yes, Albania is a mystery. There was some talk regarding the countries fate, but nothing concrete. I suggest we nuke Tirana and be gone with it, it was a Chinese ally after all, and if Vienna and Belgrade would be hit, why not Tirana as well?--Vladivostok 11:09, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Winter Guard
I've decided to stick with the current name for the Russian team, the Winter Guard, no point in changing a perfectly good name. Here are the descriptions:

Winter Guard
The Winter Guard is an amalgamation of past Soviet superheroes groups. It was organized after the events that occured on Doomsday. It is a continuation of the Soviet Super-Soldiers team.
 * Winter Soldier:Having been sent to Siberia during the events of Doomsday, Alexi Shostakov, the then current Red Guardian was caught in the nuclear blast over Novosibirsk. Clinging to life, he survived the events of Doomsday, loosing his arm and earning a distinctive scar on his face in the process. He, alongside Mikhail Ursus, was the only member of the former team to have survived and was the driving force to its renewal. Having been given an advanced prosthetic arm, he leads the team, coordinating their service from Krasnoyarsk, rarely venturing in the field himself.
 * Red Guard: Anton Shostakov, the son of the Winter Guard, was the perfect candidate for the next Red Guardian. From birth, Anton was trained in the newly reestablished Red Room, being one of its finest graduates. He has also received extensive military training from his father. He is the public face of the team, being a symbol of the USSR's steady renewal.
 * Ursa Major: Mikhail Ursus was one of the original members of the Soviet Super-Soldier team and after receiving an invitation to join the new team, he readily accepted. Possessing the strength and the likeness of a bear when transformed, he is truly a force to be reckoned with. He is also a mutant rights activist in Siberia. Through his activism, the mutant community in Siberia has slowly started to become a vocal supporter of the government that once tried to enslave them.
 * Darkstar II:As the former Darkstar, Laynia Petrovna, was killed during Doomsday. Reena Stancioff, one of the best female recruits of the Siberian army, was choosen to possess the darkstar gem, replicating the powers of the original Darkstar. Although frightened by its awesome power, Reena has slowly come to terms with her newfound powers, alleviating crisis after crisis.
 * Radioactive Man: Having witnessed the awesome power of the atom at a very young age, Chen Lu, a Manchurian refugee, decided to dedicate his life to curing radation sickness, as well as being an adamant advocate of arms reduction. One day, after assuming he had reached a breakthrough in his work, an accident in his research caused the doctor to radiate extreme amounts of radiation, as well as the ability to absorb and manipulate high levels of radiation for a number of purposes and effects. Thinking the government would be able to ultimately help him control his powers, Lu readily joined the Winter Guard.
 * The Killer:Vladimir Granitsky, whose only codename is "The Killer", exhibited his unique abilities at a very early age. At the age of five, he managed to kill an eagle in mid-flight, simply by witnessing a military sharpshooter do the same. After being sent to the military to test his abilities, it was revealed that Vladimir possessed photographic reflexes, being able to copy any humanly possible feat, just by witnessing it. From then on, having trained and surpassed the scores of the original Black Widow in the Red Room, as well as having received its version of the Super-Soldier serum, Vladimir has been a part of the Winter Guard since 2006, mostly going on black-ops assignments, together with the second Black Widow.
 * Black Widow II:Yelena Chang, having been born to a Russian general and Chinese scientist, was part of the Red Room since a very early age. Having received the same training as her peers, Vladimir and Anton, she has been given the moniker of Black Widow, as she was able to equal the scores of Natasha Romanov, the original Black Widow. Mostly assigned to black-ops missions together with The Killer.

So, what do you think?--Vladivostok 15:47, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it. And if I may be so bold and ask, could I by any chance flesh out the story of the various already existing characters of Viriginian Comics? Maybe right up something about the Multiverse. And yes, I'm a huge Marvel fanboy. And I have an excellent idea about who Captain Canada should be from the regular continuity.--Vladivostok 17:27, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Virginian Comics
Ok then, I'll start work on fleshing out the current characters tomorrow, perhaps even universes. Since we'll probably stick with the main universe, one thought comes to mind. What about DC characters? Did you want them to be in their own universe, or is it something that exists together now?--Vladivostok 19:20, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now that's awesome. Guess I'll have to read up on my DC. It would be really interesting to find out where the "Man of Steel" was during Doomsday, probably not on Earth.(sorry, just thinking out loud, the nerd is strong in me) Oh, and the list of dead superheroes would need to be stagering.--Vladivostok 19:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)