User talk:NuclearVacuum

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I do figure that the poll is legit, though those that voted probably held no understanding of the matter.

As when I voted against it originally, I have to doubt that they would ever rejoin.

The attitude evident in the area can be shown by the outright refusal to hold the 1991 referendum speaks for itself, in my mind. The voting in Armenia that did go on was also almost 30% against it - not even in the Baltic (admittedly, that was mostly Russians voting, but I believe it would have been the same in Armenia) was the "no" vote that big of a percentage.

But, besides that, Armenia atl would be much better off than in otl. They have no war to fight, or occupation to deal with. Nor would they be treated internationally like that are otl (well, besides Turkey - that genocide would be a little hard to forgive). Basically, it will/would avoid all of the problems they faced in the 1990s.

As I've said before - I think - Armenia may ally with them in some form, probably merely hosting radars, etc. for the USSR, but anything past that is probably unlikely.

Ignoring all of that, Georgia....

Armenians at least view Russia favorably - the Russians, through history helped/aided/protected/freed them. Georgians, however are the opposite - they were not freed, bu effectively conquered. People tend to not forget that. Them rejoining is really just not going to happen.

Lordganon 00:48, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, as you surely noticed, that 1992 state was a complete work of fiction by the Armenians.

The problem with the Kurds, even compared to the Crimeans, is that almost none of them lived there. At least the Crimeans made up part of the population in Crimea in 1992 worth mentioning, and in addition to that they had a organization/structure ongoing in exile so they could really start returning. Most groups were so diluted that this was difficult - the Kurds are one of the more extreme cases - but the Crimeans, among a few others, were not.

The Kurds returning is one that could happen eventually, but..... not anytime soon.

Lordganon 01:38, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about my actions when I was talking about the Nasser of Arabia timeline (the part I called LG in). I never meant to hurt your feelings nor harass you. RandomWriterGuy 16:24, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Confused
I kinda looked at the flag you added (I look at every one added), and I think there could be a cresent there. Just me thoughts. :D Imperium Guy 22:21, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

UAR State Flags
I got some flags for a few of your UAR Republics:

Now I want to list of few things: Enjoy! RandomWriterGuy 23:02, December 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) These pictures I did not create. They came from the internet (but I was not able to find one for Wahat though)
 * 2) You don't have to accept these flags. It's just a suggestion.

Re:re:UAR Flags
Apparently, all I did was type the words Saoura and Khaleej (not together lol) and that was what I got. RandomWriterGuy 01:44, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Google Images, nothing else more simple. RandomWriterGuy 02:23, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

For the UAR flag, there was no cresent. Most muslim countries in the Middle East and Maghreb have a cresent in their flag. :D Imperium Guy 10:42, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

RWG
Thought you should know that I've blocked him again, for more of the same. He really just fails to get the point, you know? Lordganon 20:30, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

As I said, entirely fails to get the point. Sigh.... Lordganon 07:45, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Map?
Here's a map which you could use for the nations of Venus thing maybe? Its mainly had the colours changed!! :D Imperium Guy 22:50, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. See, I'm forgetful + stupid (not a good combination and I'm only 13), I get your point, loud and clear. However, I would just like to ask about the deletion of the FSI, New Florida and Leda maps, I thought they were fine. :/ BTW, do you think I got this right? :D Imperium Guy 21:57, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. I could try and get my point across but its your timeline and its up to you. Well, I have nothing else to say. Imperium Guy 16:29, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

I know
I know you are (really) pissed off at me but I need to ask you think because you know more about communist countries than anyone else I've met on this wiki. How many African countries were communist or aligned with communists in the golden days of communism? Imperium Guy 16:33, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Clarification
Thank for asking me again. I herbye pronounce you caretaker of this entire timeline and all things thereof related to this timeline. If there is anything else you need please ask. Bobalugee1940 21:22, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting Pages
Saw you deleted the one page earlier - nice to see someone else do it, lol - and I figured I'd let you know that we're really supposed to wait three days after the tag is added, unless it's really offensive or something, before we delete pages. Lordganon 08:13, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, Nuke. Perfectly fine, lol. Think it's the first one you've ever done, anyways xD Lordganon 09:55, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

13FS
Hey Nuke, I just wanted to let you know that if you need any help with the Canadian part of the timeline, I'd be glad to help. Also, were you thinking of keeping the flag of remnant-Canada as it is on the Canada article? I've got a few ideas for one but it is your timeline so if you don't want to hear it that's perfectly fine. :P ChrisL123 20:42, December 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Aha, it's fine I just thought you didn't see it. And I guess you misunderstood, heh, by "Canada" I meant TTL "Borealia," I just didn't know what you were going to call it before you changed the map. But if you already made one that's fine. ChrisL123 21:51, December 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's all good, I've been busy myself. And oh gosh, is it really? LOL I thought it was a wiki-wide thing, I feel so bad now. I used it in my new timeline too, heh. If you want me to remove it that's perfectly fine.


 * Second thing, that works perfectly fine actually. I looked over the names that Canada would have used instead of Canada and they were downright terrible, Borealia works perfectly. I, unfortunately, won't be able to help out on 13FS for a little while, until this Christmas rush is over and all. But good luck on it (and RWG, for that matter). ChrisL123 03:07, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nuke, Please Listen
Please forgive me. I was not trying to harass you, but somehow, what I did what I thought was not harrassing was harrassing. Because of the troubles, I do not think I should work with you anymore because everytime I contribute, trouble always comes. This has been proven for days before my ban.
 * 1) Sorry about those ideas. By the way, you were never like this before. One time, when I gave a few ASB ideas (Pashtunistan, Christianity, NATO and CSTO, etc.), you were n't even angry at all. Why have you changed?
 * 2) I did not work on the timeline. I was letting you take the lead. Beside, I was just backing you up.
 * 3) Sorry about that. The reason I did it was because you greatly relied on LG for help, so I thought I bring help over.
 * 4) Forgive me. It was an honest mistake.
 * 5) Sorry. I did not know I was not allowed to do that. (At least you could have put a notice there, especially in the culture section of the Soviet Union page in the New Union).

RandomWriterGuy 00:38, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Canada (13 Fallen States)
I have some ideas for the nation of Canada in 13 Fallen States. --Yank 01:04, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Independance Date- since one of the side effects of the POD was that the French Revolution failed, the would-be revolutionaries would flee into exile into Canada and Louisiana in around 1798 (after the TTL successful counter-revolution). They would ferment resistance in the colonies, culminating in the Second French Revolution of 1812.
 * Leader Title- I'm partial to calling the Canadian leader the First Consul, which was what the last semi-democratic leader was called before Napoleon and the Bourbon restoration.
 * English Nationalism- I like the idea of there being an "English Nationalist" movement, similar to the OTL Quebec sovereignty movement of OTL. Presumably it would be in a province closest to the nation of Norland/Vesperia (because I don't like reusing names). It would be appropriate if Borealia was instead the name of the province in question, and of the proposed independant state.

I guess the idea does seem silly when you really think about it. Then why don't we directly copy the Cajuns? Where did the majority of British settlers to Canada come from? Because we can use that to create a corrupted community name like how Cajun was a corruption of "Acadian". They'll have their own distinct form of English, as well as a uniquely accented form of French.

Yank 17:46, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

:)
Happy Birthday Nuke! =) Lordganon 07:01, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

New Union
A new user made a proposal for this timeline, Nuke. Thought you'd like to know, if you didn't see it already.

Here it is.

Lordganon 07:42, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

13 Fallen Stars
I gave your timeline a POD, I hope its allright:

1787: Bitter Britsh Loyalists take matters into there own hands and assassinate George Washington on the way to the Convention from his temporary residence in Philideplhia. The Convention falls apart as Washington is not their to keep it together and help compromise on certain issues. With the hopes of a United America under one strong constitution, the states begin to rip at eachother in the Articles of Confederation based Congress, causing tensions between some of the states and eventualy leading to the "United States" collpase a few years later.

hope you find it acceptable

DeanSims 20:43, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

sorry, it said contributions were allowed. DeanSims 20:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Opinion about Russian America (PP)
Hi Nuc, how are you? :) I want to ask some things about the Russian America for my TL in the spanish wikia Presidente Portales. In this timeline, as result of the changes in the US wars during the XIX Century (Mexico and the CSA), the Russian Empire not sell Alaska to the US. As by this time, Russia and UK are enemies for his conflicts in Asia, Alaska is not sold to Canada-UK either. So, the territory remains under Russian control and his colonization continues, now supported by the new Mexican trade in California. I have been inspiring in your history for make this, despite the POD is in different years obviously. jeje However, i have a doubts about the borders of the russian alaska and how far can expand in the northwest of North America. What thinks? Regards! --Katholico 19:26, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm glad, yes, i'm fine too.
 * Ups, I believe that I should have warned you about some things before you should read jejeje Sorry
 * I'm going to try to explain each one:


 * You see, originally i had several ideas, but now i'm reconsidering a couple of them. One of this is the US collapse jeje (too much ASB maybe). Now, for the moment, only i have decided that the US will end divided in the civil war, and both countries (USA and CSA) will be reduced to the east coast.
 * For the UK, well, yes, i have the idea that the country will become into an republic, but this during the XX Century, after the WWI. The idea is that after the first world war, the UK fall into an civil war and end divided into 4 or 5 indepedent republics (England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and/or Northern Ireland), with the others domains in the world also gain his independence, and possibly one of them, become in the new home of the Royal Family. I'm searching OTL events like the Easter Rising to make this possible, but the development and the consequences of the WWI from my TL should be a factor to provoke this. I don't know if need change something in the XIX century for.
 * About Mexico annexing Lousiana, well, at the end of the last century, yes, Mexico should achieve the Mississippi river and Canadian border. jeje This was my original idea, and as i say before, the USA/CSA would reduce to the east. But i need work in the reasons.
 * About the russian expansion to south, well, my TL's POD is 1838, so, by this time i think that Fort Ross was already sold. The between US and UK was signed in 1846, at the beginning of the war with Mexico, so, probably will be signed anyway in my TL, and the US would have a exit to the Pacific. This, at least that Mexico also demands Oregon when win the war? What thinks? Still, the Russian expansion could continues to other side?


 * Thanks for you help. --Katholico 22:28, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * XD jeje
 * Thanks, but, first, I think that I need to apologize to you, because I didn't explain well some things. Sorry :(.
 * The Mexico expansion to the Mississipi is NOT during the war of 1846... is LATER, during the XX Century, but despite that is one of my original ideas, needs to be VERY worked. I mean, i don't know yet how this should happen... during the world wars or another war, i don't know yet. :/
 * During the mexican-america of 1846, Mexico only annexed from the US, Texas and some little land in Oklahoma maybe (by this time the Indian Territory, right?). And now, following your suggestion, the Oregón territory also might be annexed.
 * For the CSA, well, in fact, i discussed a lot about this with SouthWritter, and we reach a some answers for the situation: With No California and Texas, the slavery expansion and discussion is moved to the northwest, to the "Unrecognized Territory", which here should be colonized early. Also, the civil war will be postponed at least to the 1868, due to 2 things:


 * Some changes in the presidents (Lincoln in 1864)
 * A unofficial conflict between US-Mexico in the larger borders (skirmishes), which forced to Lincoln's administration to militarize the border states (specially the southerners) for a time.


 * A time after the situation end (during the beginning of the Lincoln's second term), the civil war break out. About Virginia and Robert E. Lee, yes, we discuss his destiny. At the end, given the possibilities that an ATL offers, i took a decision that Virginia seceded like OTL, Lee assume the command to the south army until his death in 1870, but the other southern generals continues with some success his campaigns achieving finally a ceasefire and CSA become fully independents. Also, the CSA recieves support from Mexico, due to the previous danger mexican-US tensions. (however, Why exactly you says that Mexico hated the CSA???)
 * No problem with that you write your thoughts :D I really liked your idea about Russia and Mexico. And the alaskian expasion during the UK collapse also seems to me perfect. Thanks ver much for your help. :) Regards! --Katholico 05:07, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh i understand. No problem, for the next time I must explains much better. ^_^U
 * About the russian ideas, maybe i have an little doubts. In OTL Fort Ross was sold to John Sutter. For your idea Russia should sold to Sutter or directly to the Mexican governmet?
 * Also, i can ask if you can modify a little this US electoral map for my TL? I mean, only if you have time. Thanks very much. Regards! --Katholico 05:49, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Electoral Maps

 * No Problem ;) I really appreciate your disposition to help me. Well, as the map should be post-US/Mexican war, i want erase the southwest territories (from Texas to California) and Oregon. And for the election itself, change the Taylor name for Henry Clay. I think that distribution of votes should be the same at OTL (win Clay). Thanks again! --Katholico 06:17, January 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * NICE! I must say that your habilities with the maps are awesome :D Thanks very much! By the way, i think that for my TL some states might be formed early. What thinks you? Regards! --Katholico 06:36, January 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Nuc! I can ask you if you please can make some electoral maps more for my TL? There is 2:


 * 1852: With James Buchanan instead Franklin Pierce; Kansas and Nebraska as territories. The rest is the same.
 * 1856: President Buchanan defeat to John McLean; Minnesota become as State (with his OTL size) and votes for McLean. Iowa votes for Buchanan instead McLean.The rest is the same.
 * Thanks for you disposition. Regards! Katholico 20:44, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * OKI, No problem. Really thanks for you disposition :D Any doubt let me know. --Katholico 18:44, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, how are you? :) How is going the maps? Some doubt? --Katholico 19:42, February 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem... the map is right! :D Thank you! Take you time. Regards! --Katholico 01:17, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Supreme Soviet
How do you do the pictures for the Supreme Soviet seat representation? Freedemocracy95 00:53, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I like it alright!! :D
First of all, I'm so happy :'D I do hope the same, so here we go :)

To the topic, I like it, the flags are good and I think the revisions are good, but I find less people enjoying the Venusian Haven. Oh well, lol. Leda might also need to be looked at because of the population. The Indian colony, they would go with the Soviets over the British. If you think about it, one one hand they have their former rulers and on the other, their trading and arms partner. You were right on that one!

In other things, I would like to ask: Thank you for things that I like :D Imperium Guy 19:42, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can I upload suitable flags and CoAs (if I manage to make them) for colonies?
 * Could New Saigon be a regional "Indochinese" project with Soviet aid (as I am pretty sure one of those two countries was/is communist)?

BTW, if there is an Indian colony, they would probably call it Naya (New) Hindustan or Naya Bharat rather than New India as it would be more original, I would say. I'll tell you of other name candidates when I think about them! ;D Imperium Guy 10:43, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hope I'm not peserting you (like I usually do), but I think I have some alternate flags for New Scotland that I thought you might like. One of them is the traditional Rampart Lion used in the Scotland football games and the other one is more of a Celtic influence, if New Scotland is more Celtic and allows Irish immigrants. I would like your feedback if that is ok with you. :D Imperium Guy 14:16, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Future Answer
Talk pages, anything goes.

Heck, so long as it is an article that is not explicitly about a future event - i.e. is only speculation in the atl, or about things scheduled to happen, it's fine to write about it. I mean, there's three "2012 Presidential Election" articles that I know of off the top of my head right now, lol.\

Lordganon 10:32, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Questions about New Union
Questions about New Union (Don't know if your the main author.) Anyways, I've just looked at it, knew about it, just haven't had time to get to it. Anyways, may I ask an few questions (Sorry if you've already discuss them on the talk page of New Union). Here they are: Thanks, and hope you get back. Enclavehunter 01:39, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Is Osama Bin Laden dead?
 * 2) Does the late-2000's recession occur?
 * 3) How does this affect the foreign policy of the United States?
 * 4) Does Greece go bankrupt?

Weird America Flags
Thanks again for your help :)

I already have some ideas for the flags of the other nations in Weird America

The Indian Nation doesn't have a flag as it isn't a nation as such. It's territory that was "given" (for want of a better word) to the tribes of Tecumseh's Confederacy for their assistance in the War of 1812.

Verence71 21:33, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

New England
Thanks for that, I'm not that good as far as the graphics side of things go :) What I have done however is used a slightly altered version of the OTL coat of arms of Maine as the RNE coat of arms

Verence71 18:37, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

It's all a learning process and we learn by our mistakes :)

Verence71 18:48, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

New Ottoman Empire Map Game
I f you arestill playing the game, I will rejoin it, and maybe make the game start up again. DeanSims 16:30, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sandbox
Would it be okay if I put down my ideas for New India on my Sandbox? Imperium Guy 16:02, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome! What do you mean by vague though? :D Imperium Guy 16:22, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, okay. :D Imperium Guy 16:37, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Yugoslavia Opinion
Yes, I've been following that entry in your box a bit, lol.

Quite honestly, Nuke, it sounds nice, but.... isn't very possible.

Vukovar was already surrounded by Serb forces well before the battle started, and with attacks going on by both sides. Really, the battle starting only meant government forces joining in.

The nationalists in Serbia would never agree to such a thing. It was either their way, or the highway. Something which the other groups, for obvious reasons, wouldn't let happen.

The Croatians have wanted out of Yugoslavia since before WWII. Tito slapped a bandaid on it, and kept it down while he lived. But after he died in 1980, all that went out the window.

Slovenia, quite frankly, has nothing in common with the rest.

Furthermore, why would the Treaty have any impact on Yugoslavia? There's no reason it would.

Fact of the matter is, Nuke, that tensions and divisions in Yugoslavia were far, far, worse than anything in the USSR ever was. The different ethnic groups hate each other in Yugoslavia, by and large. Vehemently. A proposal like you're talking about it just something that none of them would agree to.

Global pressure isn't quite want you're thinking, I'm afraid. Yes, the West wanted peace in the region - which is why they wanted it to stay the status quo, at first. Actions by both sides after the moratorium put this to rest pretty fast.

It may sound nice, but.... it's just not possible, Nuke. Quite frankly, what the Yugoslavia page says right now is a bit of a stretch. This new proposal is just too much.

Lordganon 04:45, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

That as the page stands now, it's possible, but not by much. Lordganon 12:04, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, that is more reasonable, but....

Really, it's not a question of the Serbs in government, but the militias. Such pressure would have no effect on them.

There's no way the Serb nationalists would agree to do it.

A better than otl resolution, however, would be for one of the agreements prior to the Washington Agreement be accepted (obviously, modified) by the Croats and Muslims, which would mean a faster peace between them.... and a faster one overall, with less death/destruction. Have a look at the things here as do what I'm meaning.

Lordganon 07:05, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that could probably work. Though, modified to be less arbitrary. Lordganon 08:48, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Terrorism in New Union
I was wondering what will terrorism be like in the New Union TL? Surely 9/11 would exist, but what about the attack on the Beslan school in Chechnya? How is terrorism and terrorist attacks different in the TL? RandomWriterGuy 05:30, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hay could I ask if I could put a flag I created on the fictional flag's page? ima firin ma lazar!!!!! o(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 01:41, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

there's a fictional flag's page for flag's that don't exist, but nevermind it's okay, I don't need to add a picture. ima firin ma lazar!!!!! o(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 14:27, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Duplicates
Sorry. I'll try not to let it happen again. Monster Pumpkin 21:40, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Afghanistan in NU
Well, even the reestablishment of the Kingdom would not resolve the two factions of Mujahedin by that point. The radical southern groups would, by and large, decry him for it, or consider him a puppet. But, the north would support the move.

Given the opinions of the Afghans towards the King, especially before the Taliban took control, and even the attitudes of the Northern commanders, a restoration would actually be likely, if he were to go back.

Heck, him going back like that makes in more plausible that the rump would survive. Basically removes the northern groups of the Mujahedin, and has them join the government.

Lordganon 18:57, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Was a touch rushed.

Yes, the Najibullah government is what I meant.

Massoud, basically the members of the otl Northern Alliance, the northern minorities, and the groups that overthrew the government in 1992 otl - all would support such a government to some degree.

It's basically the Radicals, and many of the Pashtuns, that won't support it, as said.

Lordganon 07:20, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

New India
First of all, well done for crossing 10,000 edits!! Well, I am having difficulty on one aspect of New India, that being the flag. I just don't know what New India's flag would look like and I am hoping you will be able to help as that is more of your area of expertize. Any feedback on how the NI info has gone so far would also be appreciated. :D Imperium Guy 19:51, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. As for a new name, Naya Bharat (or New Bharat in english) springs to my head. If you don't like the name, I'll try to think of others (unless you get there first!! :D) By the symbol I think you mean the cloth weaving thingy in the Indian Congress' flag in 1921? If I manage to make a flag, I would have to tell you it won't be .svg as I suck at Inkscape. I think I might add more stuff to the New India thing. :D Imperium Guy 20:26, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting Find...
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=bellinsgauzenia#/d4r3m0a

I found this and Bellinsgauzenia has now a Hetalia fanart!

General tiu 14:57, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

New Union Rubles
Hi. I noticed your Rubles in your New Union timeline, and I was wondering something. Did you make them yourself or find them online? If you found them online can you tell me where so I can find domething similar for my timeline> Thanks. Monster Pumpkin 22:09, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks for your time. Nice timeline by the way. Monster Pumpkin 22:19, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

..
Far as I'm concerned, it is an obviously broken link, which it is part of our jobs to fix. Moreover, there is a picture that you uploaded yourself which is one symbol away from it.

But, if you want to go against our methods and policies, fine.

Lordganon 22:39, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

...Which I now see that you have fixed yourself.

Sigh.....

Lordganon 22:40, March 25, 2012 (UTC)



...the exact same picture you just used in the article, and the exact one that both myself and the anon tried to fix the link with, by removing the "2."

Lordganon 22:54, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Ethiopia (New Union)
Seems like a good idea, The SNNPR made little sense to me when I first put it in Ethiopia's article but put it in on account of the fact that I couldn't think of a reasonable alternative. The problem I had was that the nationalities would be to small separately in a federal Ethiopia. If you think that its reasonable to have them as separate states I have no problemVegas adict 16:48, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

World in CNS
Hi Nuc, how are you? I wrote to you to ask if you can help me with my TL in spanish wikia called Chile No Socialista (or simply CNS). Well, the althist is focused principally in South America (where all the dictatorships end early, before 1984-85), but there some change in the world like in the US Presidents (with Reagan elected in 1977). I am trying to search if some another change would take place in other countries or in some conflict, like the Gulf War, etc... think ideas for the international scene are my bigger challenge, i don't if you can help mein something? Regards! --Katholico 04:40, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Holy Roman Empire
Would it be possible for the Holy Roman Empire to become more centralized?

Yank 02:58, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

It would possibly result in the German Empire emerging either centuries or decades earlier.

Yank 15:41, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Image


Got to ask, Nuke - trying to figure out what city this one skyline you put here is actually of.

Do you remember, by any chance?

Lordganon 05:59, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

No worries, lol.

Turns out, if I'd have looked a bit father in the cities category I'd have seen for myself, lol. It's Sacramento.

Lordganon 20:02, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Transcolumbia
Well, formally both names are okay, and may be accepted. But I think I already told you that it's better not to combine Latin and Russian affixes within one name, so it's better to call the region either "Трансколумбия" or "Заколумбье", but not a combination of both. — Hellerick 02:52, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Russian America Flags
Been keeping half an eye on things you've been changing in your sandbox, like usual - interesting, what can I say? - and I noticed the note you left next to the "Columbia" flag and the BC flag otl.

While the "never setting" bit does reflect the provincial motto, and no doubt influenced its usage, it's not actually the reason for the sun being there - it's supposed to be symbolic of it being the westernmost province, and its position on the Pacific.

Not that, of course, that part would be applicable to it atl, lol.

As for a flag for Columbia.... maybe use the flag of Vancouver as a base? Carries much of the same logic, but without the Sun bit.

For "Queen Charlotte," maybe use a variation of the Haida flag?

Lordganon 17:39, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well, think of it this way - there's a lot of flags, names of places, and symbols that have a great deal to do with native names, symbols, or tribes, and were established long after they were all gone from the area in question.

Using it outright would be a stretch, true enough, but that'd be a bad reason to rule its usage out entirely.

Lordganon 18:09, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Those new ones are good, Nuke.

For what it's worth, if you want some inspiration, there's a site out there with a lot of civic and other assorted flags on it - rather useful. Anchorage, Homer, http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-akket.html Ketchikan,] Seward, Wasilla, and Wrangell are all in there. Ketchikan's in one of the atl state that has a flag you're not happy with.

Maybe something to do with a husky for "Bering"? Or something to do with the Bering families' coat of arms?

Lordganon 07:22, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

You're the only other person that has heard/seen it, lol.

For Yakutat.... well, oil/gas, copper, and fishing are big in the area. Symbols and colors associated with those would be a good idea. It's also noted for its beaches of black sand, where gold can be found.

"Copper" is also used with regards to the natives of the area fairly regularly, as is references to ice. They also converted very easily to the Orthodox faith otl - but the reasons would mean, likely, going to Protestantism of some sort atl.

Don't know how much help that could be.

Lordganon 09:21, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thought I'd make a note about the capitals of the American states you've put in for Russian America.

They all look good, except two of the three "Ontario" states.

North Bay and Schreiber weren't founded, otl, until several decades after the area joined the USA atl. Really, the same can be said for nearly all settlements in the region. Adding to that, North Bay would be pretty close to the border.

Their founding was more or less because of the continental railroad being built through. So, they likely wouldn't exist here. Settlement and colonization would be around the lakes, concentrating power there.

Government in the region would likely be concentrated at the two major settlements, which as is the case today were Thunder Bay (Fort William, at the time) and Sault Ste. Marie.

Just a thought.

Lordganon 02:47, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thing with capitals moving, Nuke, is that it's a touch unusual for it to happen after things are established in an area.

Yeah, a bit like Maine - these would be frontier states, based on the lakes and dependent on them, with little inland settlement.

Thunder Bay was a very narrow choice otl for the name of the combined city - maybe here, "Lakehead" wins out instead?

Torn on the renaming of Kingston. As an established city, its name is a bit harder to change - but at the same time, its name would also be something they'd be inclined to change. As for the name itself.... well, I have to doubt that it would get named that if the renaming is fairly soon. Most places just aren't that big after renaming really established places after people that are alive. And if you wait too long to so something like that, it just would not happen. Up to you on this one, though overall I doubt it would get renamed to Mackenzie - some other new name is more likely.

Lordganon 21:56, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Probably for the best just to make that one capital Toronto like that.

For the capital of Nevada, San Francisco or San Jose would likely be a plan. There really wasn't any inland settlements there for a long time. San Jose would likely be more secure.

Have to ask - why LA as the capital of Alta California? The capital of the area under both Spain and Mexico, Monterey, does lie inside of it.

Lordganon 22:08, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Colombia Changes
Hi Nuc! How are you? I hope fine. Since some time ago i saw that you began to change several things about Colombia in Russian America (and also Central America). I have curiosity, what happened? :O Regards! --Katholico 03:49, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh i see. No problem, just something like this take me by surprise. Until now, you had advanced very much with the article :/ But, well, is your TL and decision, so, all good. :) By the way, can ask how this will affect the idea for Chile and Argentina? Regards! --Katholico 21:56, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ohhh NOOO :( nahh, is just a joke :P No problem Nuc, I imagined that this would be inevitable (yet, the idea maybe might used for another TL). About other idea for South America, well, for the moment i haven't something specific, but maybe i can see the continent divided in zones of influences between US and Russia (or Alaska). This, since that the United States now is look more to south (Caribe and SA) instead to the west, on the one hand. And on the other hand, the Russia-Mexico alliance maybe expand somehow his influence to the rest of the continent (i assume that in this TL Mexico is more politicallly-economically stable). Maybe this sounds vague, but since that US in OTL was the only real stable power in the Americas, this might happen in a ATL. Perhaps, in some conflict or civil wars this "fight" might take place and the intervention in favour of one side can the history of some countries. This is, for now, all what i can say. The idea needs research, of course XD. What you think? Regards! --Katholico 02:27, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's fine Nuc :) No problem for me. Far i know, the Russia-SA relations were little during the most of the XIX Century. With the exception of Brazil, Russia only recognized the rest of nations during the second half of XIX century. Obviously, was during Cold War that the URSS had a major infuence over the continent and not only i say it by the guerrilla movements (some dictatorships like in Peru and Argentina close ties with URSS during a time). Maybe as you suggested, with Russia in the Americas, the relations begin sooner and later when the russian territories became independent, they continues with this ties with South America nations.
 * Also... you say the Panama is a US state? When exactly? Undoubtedly, the Colombian history would be affected by this.
 * I'm trying to think in a way to connect Chile with Russia, but the only thing that seems "relate" them is that fact that Chile is in the south of America (and have the Strait of Magellan, the only commercial way until Panama Channel) and Alaska is the north. I mean, for commerce.
 * Well, maybe when you write more in your TL, i will think in some new ideas. :) Regards! --Katholico 03:48, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * OK. So, is with Panama Channel that the US begin the annexation. By the way, some time ago i mentioned to you about a South America-based TL from the spanish wikia, which i need help for international affairs. I don't know if you noticed? jeje Regards! --Katholico 18:34, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem. Well, my question was about if you can help me with my TL in spanish wikia called Chile No Socialista (or simply CNS). The althist is focused principally in South America (where all the dictatorships end early, before 1984-85), but there some change in the world like in the US Presidents (with Reagan elected in 1977). I am trying to search if some another change would take place in other countries or in some conflict, like the Gulf War, etc... think ideas for the international scene are my bigger challenge... i don't know if you can help me in something? Jeje Regards! --Katholico 23:38, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * So, an US military intervention on Iran? Sounds good for me. Of course, before, I will read more about this, as you suggested. Thanks. Also, i have the idea about ending the Cuban dictatorship (during '90 or '00s), but i still thinking in the how: A international intervention or civilian revolution. Regards! --Katholico 17:42, May 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I late to answer you XD Oh i never hear about that event in Cuba, seems perfect for my TL :) I will use. Thanks Nuc! --Katholico 17:50, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Capitals
No, not very far-fetched. LA was, even at the time, the major population center south of Monterey. Santa Barbara would have been a bit of stretch though, lol. Lordganon 22:28, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Not really that odd for it to happen. There's several states in the US that have counties with the same name for their seat. Heck, there's even one state where there's two counties with the same name.

Something you may find of interest, however - the capital of Costa Rica moved from the city of Cartago to San Jose in 1823 otl, after having been located in Cartago for several centuries. The reason being that Cartago wanted to join Mexico, and San Jose did not, so the leadership moved it. Might make a lot of sense to have it at Cartago here.

Lordganon 22:56, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

I uploaded the same image twice...
Woops! Thank you for the save. And I am glad you are interested in the story, hopefully I'll be able to create an interesting timeline. Milarqui, The Spaniard 06:32, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re:[Gran] Colombia
Hello again! I've been well, school stuff been intense lately, how bout you? And thank you, I hope to write more once school ends. And haha well, I may have had a bit of inspiration. But don't worry, I didn't use your map to draw over, I'd never do that. If you want, you could use mine, that way you won't have to take too long making yours, but whatever works.

Also, thanks for telling me that. I really don't have a lot of information concerning South America's history, we really only learn about Canada in school. I'll have to fix that in a bit. And thank you again, I really enjoy reading your timelines too. Regards, ChrisL123 19:42, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Environment in GWS
Hi, I posted on the GWS talk page that I wanted to make the Environment page for GWS, and LG told me I could.

Anyway, I've written out my main ideas on the page, and if there is anything on it which contradicts anything already canon, or if you have anything you want on the page, please message me.

PS, I am yet to add the Antarctic Dodo and furry lizard, but they are coming. Callumthered 06:01, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

For the record, the latest date I can find that has so-called "furry lizards" is about 100 million years ago. Reptiles in Antarctica died out with the dinosaurs, as another note on the matter. Lordganon 17:11, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

New Union
My apologies I kind of just dived in without looking at the fine print I saw that you had blocked the communists for democrocy from editing..

I read on the General Talp Page that you didnt like my American Presidential Picks and I 100% agree, it certianly requires a complete rewriting and plot which I will be happy to do if permitted.

Alexanders 16:37, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with the notion that the United States would not change much if the USSR survived given the notions that have emerged since the fall of the USSR, The idea of a Western Global Market has pretty much penetrated even outside of politics and is all over popular culture.

--Alexanders 16:39, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

I think a new ideology could be invented out of Glasnost that would influence Europe and would very likely trickle into the United States. Though I would like to think of it as the Perstrokia Party it might be named different to sound more American.

With the Soviets Recovering in the 90's and the West faltering this party could take advantage of peoples frustration at Cold War Politics, and could very well get media attention in the 1992 Presidential Election and/or the 1994 mid terms.

While Obviously Left Wing it wouldnt exactly resemble the old left and certainly not the Third Way. It might be similar to the Green Party but it would have a different mood, as it's base would be from the Eastern European Example. Something that did not exist in real life.

--Alexanders 17:41, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

You mind if I work on the Russian Parties that dont have an article yet?

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/New_Union?oldid=349921 I know that means I havent been here in a while :)...

anon contribution.
Hi nuke, it was me who edited the kingdom of greece page.?

Breizhcatalonia1993 18:27, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

you got it wrong :P
No. i previously wanted to delete the page because a chang of opinion, but now I reversed to the opinion of when I created the page.

Breizhcatalonia1993 09:28, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Found this!
I found a good flag for the Chishima Islands.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_flags_of_Japan

General tiu (talk) 07:37, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sup
So, what have u been working on latly? RandomWriterGuy (talk) 02:08, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Any New Union updates? RandomWriterGuy (talk) 02:08, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Nikita Drugal
Are you planning to do anything on your Nikita Drugal article? Godfrey Raphael (talk) 13:43, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Flags
Okay I will try to remember that, it just seems easier to download the ones that I have instead of digging through a bunch of files trying to find the one that i want.

Bobalugee1940 (talk)

Normally I use the visual editor becuase it allows me to easily use templates and such things, plus it allows me to see what it looks like without having to press the 'preview' button every seven seconds. Bobalugee1940 (talk) 23:14, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Republic of New Netherland
I know you like the concept of an independant New Netherland. What would be the side effects of New Netherlands independance as shown by the New Netherland webpage? I'm quessing that, for one, the New England states are also potentially independant, as New Netherland's independance cuts them off from the rest of America. They would work together with the other Americans to gain independance, but go their seperate way afterwards. This in turn would potentially result in the American South industrializing, thus making the issue of slavery effectively a moot point. What I'm saying is that I'd like to transpose that website's timeline to our wiki.

Yank 19:30, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

What I was wondering is would the more wide-spread southern industry result in slavery slowly dying instead of being killed one fell swoop? Would this slower approach result in fewer violent white supremistss? Feel free to contact the author. Would you be okay with doing the majority of the work?

Yank 21:20, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

ASB question
Hi, I was wondering how you avoided the ASB-enviromental label for Venusian Haven or am I missing it? I have an idea for a greater Panspemia and would love to avoid that label.

Iwaschris (talk) 14:04, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Its perfect¡¡¡¡
I absolutely don't mind, in fact i think its perfect :D I will change my flag to the one you designed, what do you think about the timeline?, and by the way, I want to make some posters for the british socialist federal republic, but i need some ideas about what to put, I mean, soviet style posters.

Yes the whole Northern Ireland is part of Ireland due that in when the time that British Republicanism started to arise the independence of Ireland was not so much a discussed question about. Anyway, in that Alternate History, the British doesn't oppress the Irish so much since the act of Union of 1801, which in OTL was seen by Irish people as favourable because included catholic emmancipation. The Irish are given in 1921 ( or 1922, don't remember what year I did put) the option of becoming independent in a three option referendum in which the options are:

1- Independence

2-Actual Status (Constituent Country of the BSFR without self-government)

3- Constituent Country of the BSFR with completely Internal self government ( the BSFR is a federal republic), that option is the winner in the referendum with the 55% of the votes, due that unites both unionists who wished to stay in Britain (note that in 1921, in OTL, most of the districts of Dublin where overwhelmgly unionist) that unites both unionists and ex-independentists.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 09:48, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Some Russian Stuff
So Nuke, I'm doing a timeline, and it has a vastly reformed Russia. It's divided into.....well, divisions. I'm at a loss as to what I should call them. Provinces? States? Districts? That's kind of holding me up.

And while I'm talking about Russian stuff, I want to add that New Union is my favorite timeline and you've put a lot of work into it. I hope one day I can creat a timeline to be as good as that. And I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to borrow a few of your ideas. Namely the flag of Crimea, Cossackia, Dagestan, Karelia, and Volgaland and the concept of Birobidzhan. I just want to ask your permission before I use them.

And I find that you and I have both have some things in common: we're Russophilic, we both have OCD, and we share the common interests of astronomy, cartography, and the Space Race and the Cold War. Quite a coincidence.

Regards,

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:44, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

I think I'll have to go with guberniyas. The reforms came out when Peter the Great came about. He had a small Duma kind of thing and everyone from the guberniyas voted for who they wanted in the semi-Duma. Initially five guberniyas: Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Siberia, and Finland. Then more would come about as time progressed.

Really? They're OTL? I found Crimea's flag to be red-white-blue vertical, I couldn't find a mention of Cossackia or Dagestan anywhere, and I found no flag for Karelia.

XD, I'm not a wizard, I'm just nosy. I found your NukeVac Wiki, lol.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 17:27, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

As a matter of the fact I have timeline here. It's relatively new and hasn't much yet, but I've got it all worked out in the noggin. Just got to put it up.

No problem about the history lesson professor, I appreciate it. I think I'll look up some other flags before I go any further with yours.

Ah, now I know what vexillology is. If I had known before, I would've added that to our common interests. lol.

Yeah I went to your site. The whole FSA thing is interesting though.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:01, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Not six, five actually.

So did GWS take Bellinsgauzenia from you or vice versa?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:25, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hey there, Nuke, it's me again, your younger Russophilic evil twin. So I added some content to my timeline. Would you mind checking it out a bit and telling what you think so far? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 22:01, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking you'd say that. I kind of had this idea for it happening. You know how they claimed that Russia was the "Third Rome?" I was thinking he'd draw on that, and make Russia a Roman Republic sort of thing, but with a monarch, since he obviously wouldn't want to lose power. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 22:27, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ah. A pity.

XD John Green is hilarious.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:07, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

About Ireland and its currencies in the BSFR.
Yes, Actually the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands have its own pound that is not the pound sterling, so i decided to extend that idea to the two islands, Great Britain and Ireland. And yes, the whole Island of Ireland is part of the BSFR, taking in mind that in 1921 a lot of districts of Dublin were unionist and the level of self government inside the BSFR satisfied the Irish to the point that they rejected independence in a referendum. I am going to start making articles about the constituent countries of the BSFR :D. Its strange because i have frequently changing of Ideas, sometimes i want a democratic russian empire and sometimes i want a democratic USSR like your want of new union ;), in which, i will like to collaborate with putting the anthems to all the constituent republics.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 12:55, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm not trying to compare the UK/BSFR to the new union, what i am trying to say, is that in the real life sometimes i will support a democratic russian empire and sometimes a democratic soviet union like the one you propose in New Union, you will like a soviet union like you propose in your New Union in the real life? at the moment I will like it.

Breizhcatalonia1993 (talk) 18:34, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

hi, i want to ask for your permission to translate New Union to the alternate history wikia in spanish becausse i think it is a awesome article, thanks =)Patogicapoeira (talk) 23:22, August 2, 2012 (UTC)