User talk:LurkerLordB



You're Welcome
I was happy to help and thank you for the kind words.

Bill

Thanks again; I was attemtping to upload an image of a custom electoral map I had made and it wasn't working, so I was wondering if you could tell me how to make it work/make one for me? Thanks.

Jerseyrules

Principia Moderni (Possible Napolitian Expansion Offer)
Dear Naples. We have been watching the rapid Russian expansion and are incredibily concerned. We send an offer to join arms in the period between 1673 to 1682 where we will reveal ourselves. We are a current ally of yours as well. Naples has the chance to gain huge advantages in land. We are also approaching the nations of Vietnam, Joeson, China (to hit Russia in the east) and Venice and Sweden (to help you block Hungary, France and Anglo-Germany if they get involved). You have a vast territory open for possible expansion if you take this deal. Respond on this talk page if you are interested.

Naples wishes to not bring war to the Christian world, but will do so if the Eastern Traitors seek to expand further into Catholic Europe or into the Orient. LurkerLordB 21:50, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

They are not Christian. The Russians are in fact Russian Orthodox.

Russian Orthodox is a type of Christian. The Catholics in Naples consider them to be traitors. LurkerLordB 23:55, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. Also Russia plans to annex all of Siberia by 1680.

Vietnam
Can the Venetians count on Naples assistance in protecting the christian nations of europe and driving the Imperialists of Vietnam away from the territories we hold sway over? Kunarian 20:50, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Spain
If you can read I backed my troop out and fix all the damage I cause you get the fuck off my back bitch!!!!

Eldwolf
I'm going to block him for a few days, but I need to say this first: Just report it next time. Posting things on his page is furthering the trouble. Lordganon 22:50, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought he should be notified. But, you probably should have done any notification instead. Wasn't thinking clearly. LurkerLordB 22:57, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Caucasus
Lets say then that in the most northern new state from the Ottoman Empire, A violent outbreak against the Crusaders occurs and so Russia moves in to subdue it, in that situation you would have Venices support. Besides I need to rebuild my Arsenal and pull back military campaigns. Kunarian 00:51, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

I am not Russia, I am Naples. LxCaucassus is Russia. LurkerLordB 00:59, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

God Save Italia!
Seeming as France and Burgundy have now gone into personal union, I think that we should move towards union between our two nations in a Confederate States of Italy (CSI, heh), Where we would both be ruled by a central government that would be made up of Italians from all the Peninsula and the states within would have free reign to govern themselves to a degree. Also each State would have 2 representatives meaning that the State of Venice could support a war with say, Portugal and then Naples could be agianst it and so it would then go to the other states within the confederacy with 2 for and 2 against we would need to randomise the others and therefore it would be more interesting. This would also give us greater influence over world events. Kunarian 18:33, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Good I guess, although how to handle vassals like Milan and the Papal states? LurkerLordB 23:59, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

We should integrate the other italian states into the Confederacy. Papal states being split into two, the Papal state and the Holy City of Rome. I'll finish integrating the other norths and then we can make a combined move after the Bahamas incident completely is over to unify. Kunarian 00:24, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks for voting the President McCain althist. I hope that it becomes a featured althist.

RandomWriterGuy 23:01, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Spread the message about this to everyone.

LurkerLordB,

Thank you for your feedback.

I will need your help soon. I hope to add an "alternate destinies" such as in Napoleon's World. If you could come up with some quick bio suggestions, I would very much appreciate it.

Here's some destinies already taken:

Rick Santorum: Speaker Carly Fiorina: Opposition leader David John MacDonald (Tennant): Leader of Liberal party in UK

Send me a few and we'll talk about it.

Thanks,

MasterSanders

Yank
In Principia Moderni, Yank is the player for Vietnam. I can not find a link to him. Can you give it to me?

RandomWriterGuy 23:24, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Modship for Principia Moderni
You've definitely deserved this from the start, but I was going to let you have a little bit of time to observe how the game was run. If it's okay by you, I'll promote you to assistant moderator and if that works out you may become a full moderator. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 03:31, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, but the way I do it is to install the Color Counter Applet (you can find it on Google) and it should be under Plugins>Color>Color Counter. For me it helps to fill in my color with a memorable hexidecimal code (#DECADE, #DEFACE, #FACADE, #DEEDED or something to that effect) and the Color Counter lists all the colors in hexidecimal and the number of pixels. Note that you will have to close and reopen the applet to refresh it. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 03:45, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Mamluk
so, i proposed a deal to france and sweden about the division of the Mamluks. i t's only temporary, since some other country may enter the war, or we might not win.however, this is a proposal, and France and Sweden accepted.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 06:46, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Greece proposes a non-aggression pact to Naples and a alliance to Jerusalem. i asked this three times in-game and you didn't respond.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:25, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I updated it. Why did Greece become so scared of Naples all of a sudden? I never posted anything of the nature that Naples had any desire to attack Greece. LurkerLordB 22:21, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since you started to attack the muslim nations, obviously the muslims on Greece (there are various of them there, since the new Greek government never bothered to make a a radical change on the Ottoman Empire's policies. a expample is the millet, which only changed its name.) got word of it, and as of expected, anti-Napolitan sentiment developed there.some of the Orthodox Christians also were fearing a invasion alike the Fourth Crusade (a Catholic nation attacking a Orthodox nation).before you know it, there are people claiming for war with Naples.by 1705, only the muslims are still fearing a Napolitan invasion.by this time, the King of Greece is trying to reestabilish relations with Naples.and with Jerusalem, as well.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 07:40, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Algorithm/Stability
Mostly to make it easier for people doing the algorithm or stability where they can just scroll up instead of having to open up another tab. It's not a perfect system, but it's what people are used to. Maybe you could ask Scandinator or Collie Kaltenbrunner, because they are the main people who use the algorithm/stability. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 22:05, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re:What?
You misunderstood me. I apologize. I didn't notice that you had colonized Pacific Islands. The overcolonization I was talking about was the Iberian one. This is Africa we're talking about; back in the day, Africa was the least colonial importance and the hardest to colonize (especially northern Africa). The move Iberia did would probably take up to 5 years. But of course the Pacific Islands are yours, no question. Sorry again for the misunderstanding. ChrisL123 02:34, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Napolitian-Finnish Trade
Firstly, I will establish that NO such trade route would exist. Trade to Naples would be via AGC, Venice then to Naples.

Secondly, a nation of only half a million people also on poor soil is not going to be very merchantile, trade is going to be limited.

Thirdly, the Swedish are able to control all Baltic trade. By the nobles declaring war on Finland that trade (to AGC) is blocked.

Finally, I like your profile picture

Scandinator 07:19, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Fix Stability
For the soil quality I run it off this map :

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Global_soils_map_USDA.jpg

Yellow and green are very good quality soils in the map.

Size is:

OTL Sri Lanka and smaller: 2.5

OTL Sri Lanka to OTL New Zealand: 3

OTL New Zealand to OTL India: 3.5

OTL India and greater: 4

Scandinator 07:29, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Revolutions 1750
Hello! I am glad you are on board the map game and I hope it'll be a good one. Before I start, I just want to notify you of some things.

I'm going to extreme lengths to prevent this game from becoming implausible. Please note that moderators will have Delete on Sight permissions. This means they can delete anything they see implausible. Granted, I'll probably just cross it out so I don't confust people, but be warned that the mods reserve the right to remove problematic people from the game.

There will be algorithms factoring wars and revolutions. Keep in mind that, unless improperly done, an algorithm's result is final. Moderators will be keeping track of the algorithms. These algorithms are to keep the game plausible and fair.

The moderators are an impartial and fair group of players that have shown enough responsibility and plausibility to hold their positions. They will not be biased or unfair. That being said, please don't accuse them of being biased or unfair. Speaking of moderators, I was wondering if you wanted to be a mod.

If I didn't scare you away from the map game with all this stuff, feel free to post on the map game. Good luck!

CrimsonAssassin 04:08, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry bout the half year thing, I always put .6 because 6 months is half of a year. Im wierd about that I guess.

DeanSims 15:25, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

You should post on States of America 3

DeanSims 18:10, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Check out my profile page, I just updated it. Watch the bottoma video or at least listen to it. Its pretty good.

DeanSims 19:43, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

IQC page
I added a "recent news" thing on the page to give in brief what is happening. I will do that for my country page as well. Is that ok?? :D Imperium Guy 22:32, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

post on map game states of america 3

DeanSims 01:37, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Dude. ICQ page looks awesome :D Doctor261 06:34, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Did you have an amphibious landing? If so, isn't it a bit early considering the year is only 1877.5? Please don't take American territory or that would not make the game so fun!! :D Imperium Guy 17:07, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I get any reserves left up to "secretly" help you. I'm a bit overstretched, with most of my army attacking the Ottomans and the remaining attacking Austrian Vietnam where military help could be useful!! :D Imperium Guy 19:57, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, we will atleast send you supplies with the newly linked Hind-Quan railroads. I am planning to try and push the Dutch off the East Indies at a later date. Its Asia for the Asiatics!! :D Imperium Guy 20:05, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Return of the king
I'm fine with you, btw prepare for some bloody conflict, Venice is back and more militaristic than ever, the guidance of the Furioso is gone and now all liberalism is generally diminished into italian-venice nationalism with a hatred for other ethnicities like the Vietnamese. Kunarian 20:20, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I never declared war on you. I will stop being implausibile to all of ym ablilites if we roll back the war.

Can that work?

DeanSims 21:58, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Aid the IQC?
To be frank, if we all went at America, guns blazing, in its current state, it wouldn't even be fun. We all saw the US have its ass handed to it on a silver platter before, ganging up on it now would be ungentlemanly to say the least. If we were to remove the United States from this game, the world would no longer be bipolar, and our Grand Alliance would fall away as infighting overtakes us. Instead, I think we should just leave it be, stopping it from doing anything outrageous when necessary, and if you really want to attack it, go on ahead and take some of its colonies, LORD knows they're not strong enough to stop you. And, if by some miracle they do become an actual threat, I will not hesitate to aid you, but I will not kick a child while it is down. We are still allies, though. If you want to remove a less critical piece from this puzzle, I will help you.

I hope you can respect my wishes,

Jazon Naparleon 22:10, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I would do that, if I did not feel insulted my self by DeanSims deleting my posts from the game page and attempting to hijack my nation. I will take the territory which I would get by the algorithm from the US, and if you help, you will get part too. LurkerLordB 22:14, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey lurker lord, have you realized you would make a better colony than I would, China has a good population that can used as labor, and its a huge country surrounded by countries who have the power to take you down and may become my allies. I want peace but not on such insulting terms. DeanSims 22:19, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I will not aid them. Sort this out diplomatically. You two are fighting madly. What I propose is no rollback, but a slight Chinese gain in a treaty. Gaining of Canadian territory under American hands is good, its something for your gain. Please stop the fighting. FA is doing brilliantly. :S Imperium Guy 22:24, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I will accept that deal on the terms that I be compensated. But its not such a bad deal.

DeanSims 22:30, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

i accept your terms. can i keep a base in Indonesia though please?

DeanSims 22:33, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

That is very fair. I accept. i AM GOING TO THE MOVIES, SO I HAVE TO GO.

thanks

DeanSims 22:39, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I can reduce it to two turns a day, can that work for you?

DeanSims 18:47, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

fair enough DeanSims 18:53, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Good, good
That will be good. :D Imperium Guy 20:41, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

War of the Gods
I didn't replace history in the revised version, the POD is at 3000BC. There are althist whom have PODs earlier than 3000BC. Some of them are: So I am very confused...
 * 4.6 billion BC
 * Luna: Earth II - The Moon's core is 960 kilometers in diameter instead of a mere 480 kilometers. This lead to a stronger gravity, a magnetic field, and eventually, its own lifeforms.
 * 4.56 billion BC
 * White Star Jupiter - Jupiter is formed into a white dwarf star instead of a gas giant. This enables the habitation of all planets in our solar system.
 * 3.70 billion BC
 * A World Apart - Life forms on an entirely different continental system than that of traditional earth, causing human society to develop an entirely different history.
 * 500 million BC
 * Habitable Mars - Mars retains a thin but breathable atmosphere, as well as a protective radiation belt. Plant and insect life soon develop on the planet.
 * 251 million BC
 * Permian Extinction: Civilization - Sapient lifeforms and civilization emerge just in time for the Permian extinction.
 * 65 million BC
 * Tooth and Claw - A large meteorite fails to hit the Earth, instead hitting the Moon.
 * 200,000 BC
 * Zera - A small group of Homo Erectus crosses the Bering land bridge and develop in the Americas.
 * When Hell is Full... - For some reason, the genus Homo Sapiens is cursed from the start. Whenever a certain amount of its kind have perished, death is no longer permanent and the dead return to feast on the living...
 * 20,000 BC
 * Great White South - The climate around the Earth's south pole warms significantly, enabling human inhabitance of the Antarctic continent.
 * 4004 BC
 * No Supernatural Intervention - Adam and Eve leave a suddenly inhospitable rain forest to begin civilization in the fertile plains. They had never encountered the Creator God who chose to remain aloof from his creation.

Bobalugee1940 03:19, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mine is based on something, even though it is ASB to the very max, it is not replacing history. History was well established by 3000BC  and then the gods came around by Alien Space Bats. Thus it is based in history.

Bobalugee1940 03:25, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

You still haven't answered me as to WHY its "replacing history". I want you to TOTALLY AND UTTERLY  invalidate my argument. Bobalugee1940 03:32, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I admit the alien space bats mcdonalds is going o'er the edge. But the ASBs ARE interacting with people, they are just making them gods. Bobalugee1940 03:38, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

1438 Neapolitan Coup
I don't know how to react to the recent coup against the Neapolitan King. Should I support a (increasingly unlikely) restoration? Should I sever connections with the usurper? Or should I continue business as usual?

Yank 18:32, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Would I be able to restore the former King of Naples if I waited until 1750-ish?

Yank 04:20, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

FA
I think we should try to link up our colonies in Africa, what dya say? Also, could you calculate the chance in the algorithm on the talkpage please?? :D Imperium Guy 23:07, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ethiopia's support in Sweden
We really just wanted a compromise made, so its good a deal was made. I'm just going to see what the deal was....

Flagmania 16:45, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

So will Scotland be played by Scandinator and get his colonies?Flagmania 16:57, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Scotland will become totally independent from Sweden. LurkerLordB 16:58, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

cough "Read hundreds of years of history"? cough And yes, people always want to be liberated. No matter if they already have land of their own. E.g. Manifest destiny.

Btw, I'm sorry. I didn't know that causing a revolt counted as controling a nation I will be more wise. You know, to put this all behind us, why not sign a treaty of free trade? Saamwiil 19:09, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, being an actual muslim, I follow my own tennents. Well, I guess I'll do it the Ottoman way. Start from nothing. Also, is it possible for me to delete that post I made.... It's kind od embarassing...Saamwiil 19:24, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

check
hello check revoulotions 1750

Revolutions 1750
While both of my deletions were errors, yours were clearly on purpose. Cut it out and limit yourself to restoring the post next time. Fed (talk) 03:55, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

You idea doesn`t make any sense
1. I don`t Section of History and I didn`t edit the timeline in Vegetarian World and 13 Fallen Stars put only edit it only on demograhics and politics sections.

And 2. Are you no right for doing that. And last one you are not one make two Alt.-History, i look your wikia page and saw you aren't make these two in the first place..

P.S. maybe sometime I whould unedit yours in months or next year of you are attack other wikia non-user, I will going attack you later. >:(

Thx. I want to add more. I can't add anthing for subdivisions as yet, because the state only recognizes one provinced so far: Central Anatolia. 68.12.127.86 23:34, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

i want to formalize the IQC-USA alliance. DeanSims 01:36, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

In Your Professional Opinion. ..
Hey Lurk, I've been making the algo's for a few wars in Fractured America lately, and I was wondering, in your mod-tastic opinion whether or not the US and Japan should have their own Algo's or should one be the ally of the other, in this current war for Australia, here.

Jazon Naparleon 22:46, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Avaro
The game is starting now. Thanks for playing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:55, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

About message
I know, I wasn't planning to rid of Finnish culture as a whole... As for varying it up, I'll try. -Kogasa 05:39, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

PM Mod Posts
I'm sorry about the posts. I have been in a series of lectures over the last week from 2100 UTC till 0600 UTC and have been very, very busy with very little time for Althist. I live in Australia which causes difficulties with some of my duties as a moderator but I am willing to cope with these and I compensate by plugging in the mod events before I leave. The reason I tend to post most of the mod posts is because I have been asked by DK to research the major natural disasters in OTL and post them in PM as I had approached him with many disasters he had missed through the 17th century. The Minister of Wars came out of the fact that I am good at Maths and I completed many algorythms. Industrialization is because I am heavily researched in the era from 1600 to modern day. I realize your point with Prussia and it is a good one therefore the Eastern half of Germany goes with your map and weatern half with mine. Again I apologize about rewriting your mod posts without explanation but please understand my current circumstance. Note the lectures finished today so everything should be all right.Scandinator 08:41, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Stability List
Ok, if you want a stability list I need the start dates for the current regimes of all the player nations. I'll put them in Excel and get the GSS. The CSS I am currently keeping a running count of on Excel and with the GSS I can add them and find the OSS. But if you want a list I need someone to give me the start dates because I'm a little busy these few days as I start my last semester of 6th form in a week.Scandinator 22:54, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.Scandinator 22:54, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and WOW their all so recent.[[User:Scandinator|Scandinator (talk)]] 23:10, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Naples is on 25 and rising by around 0.5 every year.Scandinator (talk) 01:21, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hungary-Naples
About your question, yes, Maria had children with János. there is the list:


 * 1) Antónia (born in 1758)
 * 2) Sándor (born in 1759)
 * 3) Péter (born in 1764)
 * 4) Tamás (born in 1766)
 * 5) Zsigmond (born in 1768)
 * 6) Zsuzsanna (born in 1775)

--Collie Kaltenbrunner 11:09, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Questions:


 * 1) For the dynastic union having to happen, the King of Hungary will have to be necessarily Sándor?
 * 2) If yes, Sándor can assume the Hungarian throne earlier than 1796?
 * 3) Until when you plan the dynastic union to last? (Note: i plan to having Sándor dying in 1822)-Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:54, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

After Sándor, the dynastic union necessarily will have to be personal too?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 19:58, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

So, this was the plan. Karóly is crowned in 1791, dies in the following year, Sándor (not the son of János and Maria) assumes and dies the following year, Mária Anna refuses the offer to assume Hungary's throne, and in 1793, Sándor (now the one that will become king of naples) becomes King of Hungary.And, you didn't answered my question. After Sándor (III), the dynastic union will have to necessarily be personal as well?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 10:27, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:

"A dynastic union is the combination by which two different states are governed by the same dynasty, while their boundaries, their laws and their interests remain distinct. It differs from a personal union in that a personal union is under a monarch, but not under a dynasty."

Our union qualifies under which of them?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 15:27, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, i had another idea: The union is both personal and dynastic until one point, when it becomes just dynastic. Explaining: After Sándor III's death in 1822, his son Karóly assumes the throne and dies in 1841.However, from all the issue that he had, only one of them was male, György, which dies in 1849. Eventually, György's older sister Amália assumes the throne.Now i need to know if Napolitan law will allow Amália to rule Naples as well, as Amália has male relatives, but outside the direct family line, as Karóly had younger brothers (János [older brother, dies in 1879] and Antal [younger brother, dies in 1864]).If the Napolitan law for succession give preference to Antal or János, the personal union ends in 1850.However, the dynastic union continues, as in either way, the Napolitan monarch will be uncle of the Hungarian queen.If not, we need to define another date later.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 16:26, January 28, 2012 (UTC) P.S. the succession lines and dates of death are based on the real-life House of Erdödy family tree, in case that you ask why i defined death dates for Karóly's younger brothers.

So, In the above example, if the Napolitan succession laws do not allow Amália to rule Naples if she has living male relatives, though they are outside from the direct family line, the Napolitan throne would be passed to either Antal or János.then, the personal union would cease to exist, but the dynastic union still would exist.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 19:14, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ah.So this means that the personal/dynastic union will last more than to 1850.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:12, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Russia-Poland
I've been waiting for Russia to drop their stability, they are 10 points below Sweden's now. If Naples and all their possessions team up with France-Sweden we could wipe Russia out of Europe and free the Poles, Lithuanians and Finns. To repay Naples, Sweden will offer to help Naples expand their possessions, Malay or Tamillia and maybe even totally hand over Swedish India.Scandinator (talk) 03:42, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help you expand into Malay and also Tamillia. thanks you so much, I have tried to obtain Kola for 200 years and Lithuania, Livonia and Finland for the last 100.Scandinator (talk) 03:49, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

TSPTF
How would you feel about a nomination for a constable or lieutenant position in the TSPTF? Lordganon 07:23, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Lieutenant it is, then. Head on over to the page and accept it, giving your reasons. Lordganon 10:49, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

About Japanese names
Well, to be honest I was never any good at making up names for areas (in general). I'll try.


 * For Canada, the best I could give is Kaiketsu (解決), or Nyūshoku (入植). It comes from what originally meant (settlement).


 * For Northland, I say go with Nōsurando (ノースランド) or Kitaji (北地), its both an translation of Northland, but it'll do.


 * For Golden Coast, since that is an area of Spain, it would just be translated to Gōrudenkōsuto (ゴールデンコースト) as anything foreign language names/words is usually written in Katakana. But if you don't want that, then ōgonkaigan (黄金海岸) would be another one (ōgon means gold, and kaigan means coast).


 * Uruguay, I honestly have no clue. By taking its meaning from Guaraní language which is 'river of painted birds' the best I could think of is Chōruikaku (鳥類画). Chōrui means bird, and kaku really means 'practise the art of painting pictures' which would make the name of it sound odd, but it can work.


 * Land of the Giants, would be Kyojin kuni/koku (巨人国); jin (人) however means person, so it would sound odd. However kyojin (巨人) together can mean 'A mythical giant' so it can work.


 * And Finally, Green Country, I don't know either. Could try Mijukukuní (未熟国) or Midorikuní (緑国).

Sorry if some of these do not work well or sound odd, but again, I'm not good at making up names. Anyway, you're welcome. ^^; -Kogasa 10:48, January 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * For Chinese names, you could ask User:Jordan Chang. From his user page, he seems to be from Hong Kong... -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.png|23px|border]] 15:46, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Vassals/Puppets
The list you presented has a lot of pros and cons. But no matter how you look at it. The current system seems the fairest. So there you have it... two is the second best by only a tiny margin though so that accounts for the tie. But it will also be the most difficult to implement.Scandinator (talk) 01:52, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Having this system allows for two nations to have hundreds of puppet states on each side of a war algorythm. A loss by 0.1% would equal total annihilation.
 * 2) Too many puppets equals losing a war instantly. Those that have enough puppets and stability will become invincible with no territorial disadvantage in the wars.
 * 3) The black will never be explored...
 * 4) Just plain unrealistic
 * 5) Disadvantages the people with one vassal or puppet state. However, many players control their numbers to not be implausable but enough to counter the 1.5 multiplier.

About Chinese Names
No problem. Ju s t ask me. :) Jordan Chang 13:06, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

For "Great Forest", I will suggest "森夏" (means a fortune forest) (Sen Sia) or "森下" (under the forest) (Sen Sia)

For the "Isthmus", I will suggest " 峽西" (West of a gap) (Sia Si)

For the "Southern Lands", I suggest " 南安" (Fortune name, which means peaceful in the South) (Nan an)

For the " Tropic Islands", I suggest "夏禾" (A great summer,禾 means harvest) (Sia he).

For the "Land of Many Waters", I suggest "稻鄉" (A land to produce rice, rice need many water as you known :D) (Dao Siang)

I was not very good at naming, but I still want to help you :D Jordan Chang 16:01, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

PM Talk Page
Sorry, my computer is playing up with the wikia formating. I've fixed it now. Thank you for telling me. Scandinator (talk) 03:56, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

1200ad
1200ad is up good luck

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:Waroftheworld

153.107.97.158
Some time after adding to the 1796 section of the map game, a man named 153.107.97.158 erased it. Fortunatly, at the same time, you were able to reverse his edits.

The message was about my accusations against Sweden, and I might suspect the anonymous contributor who removed it (and was fortunatly restored by you) could be a sockpuppet of Scandinator.

What do you think? Should I be worried? RandomWriterGuy 01:25, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

1200ad
1200ad the empire of greater normandy accepts this offer of help against wales

The Greater Americas
I not sure if you are aware of this, but the greater Americas game is still ongoing. Within the last 10-12 turns four nations almost went to war over your nation, so you might want to get back in. Monster Pumpkin 13:22, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

BTW, Taiwan needs a defense force, and China is wide open... although Japan might be a place where wars are going to happen between two countries. :D Imperium Guy 17:36, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Turan
I know that i should be asking this to DK, but since he is out, i tought about asking you first.anyway, the question is:

is this thing that turan made and now insists in call itself plausible? for me, the main problem is that in the algorythm, Turan only conquered 14% of Bulgaria and now claims to have annexed all of Bulgaria.no country would let itself being annexed by another after losing only a sixth of its territory, unless that it was a very economically important area, and i think that he himself said that he was trying to annex Northern Bulgaria first.and now he is interferring with the mapmaking.i can't add it to the map unless that is plausible, which i don't think that is.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 05:54, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe yes.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 13:40, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Principia Moderni
Got any reason why you put the Prinicipia Moderni talkpage on the main game page?

Yank 00:53, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

That idiotic"Here are some unsaved edits, lets restore them for you!" thing. LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:55, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Then shouldn't unsaved talkpage edits go on the talkpage and not the game page? And when you respond to a users comment you should probably do it on their talkpage not your own.

Yank 02:06, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Lieutenant in the TSPTF. I would like to spend sometime discussing those powers:


 * You should now notice a red button at the top of every article with the word "Delete". You can use this to delete articles, obviously. Use this power sparingly and always stay within the framework of the Deletion Policy. The policy itself was passed with little discussion, so if you have any suggestions or comments regarding it I would be glad to hear it.
 * You can also block users from editing. This can be done by clicking on the History page for articles or the Contributions tab on editor's user pages. Again, use this sparingly. This is our most destructive tool. We don't have a policy on this, but there is a general custom that has been followed: always assume good faith with edits (unless obviously vandalism), warn before blocking (try using the three strikes approach) and start with short block durations for first time offenders. Generally other administrators will not interfere with your decisions regarding blocks, as long as it appears fair on its face. Permanent blocks, however, must be brought before the TSPTF as a whole and will only be confirmed if there is a 2/3 approval.
 * You will also notice a button on the top of every article that says "Protect". With this you can prevent certain people from editing a single article. The first level prevents anons and new users from editing an article. The second level limits editing only to administrators. Use this to prevent excessive vandalism or to prevent edit wars between users.
 * There are other obscure powers that are not used often. If you have any questions on those or the ones I mentioned above, feel free to ask me.

Also, this allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a lieutenant, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.

When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon 19:21, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Revolts in Bulgaria
I just now saw the message you sent me, and I am not at all upset at the revolt. I'm not even really trying to prevent a revolt, that would be implausible. I'm just trying to get it all to fit together. Without little quirks. I do admit that I would like to keep Rumelia and Macedonia (yes, I know the positioning is wrong, but it's a nice name) as whole, but I am perfectly willing to let go, since that's what people do, they revolt, even when they don't know what exactly they want. Human nature.Saamwiil 21:34, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm only trying for Crimea, I only wish for the rest of Uknrain to become independant. Saamwiil 03:31, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

hey lurkerlordB sorry about the vandalism thing but i only left it up for a minute and it was because i know gunsnadglory in real life and i just wanted to mess with him. I won't do it again and i apologize for vandalizing his wiki. -griffins3 207.38.156.172 22:20, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies: Reloaded
You still playing the map game? I haven't seen you post there for quite a time. RandomWriterGuy 13:31, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Stability Table
I'll fill it out tonight.Scandinator (talk) 20:44, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

can you do me a favor?
hi lurker lord, i was wopndering if you could do me a favor, i will be gone for a week and i need someone to control my nations, could you do it for me please, i will leave a list of them and what you would do for them. DeanSims 18:56, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

sure, here they are: DeanSims 19:06, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Axis vs Allies Reloaded: Austria, try and help out the Axis as much as you can.
 * 2) Entente vs Allies: Germany: expand the military and your colonies. Try and take over Siam and Central America nations one by one. Mexico: expand the military and research heavier than air flght.
 * 3) Hot Cold War: Prosecute the war against the Warsaw Pact, you are Germany (West Germany), and the UK, try and rejoin NATO if you can.
 * 4) Principia Moderni: The ICR, expand your territories and try to make a ceasefire and peacetalks occur between Turan and the Franco-Russian Allaince. DeanSims 19:05, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) =Subterranean Europe: You are Sweden, continue to expand into the surrounding areas as much as you can.=

so can you do it, i would realy apreciate it. DeanSims 19:12, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

my library time runs out in two minutes, honest to god, and i dont have time, could you please do it just this once until i get back, it shouldnt be more than a week.DeanSims 19:34, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
thanks for taking over my countries while i was gone. im sorry i had to leave so fast, my library does not give extra time. you dont have to reply if you dont want.

thanks again lurkerlord,

your a lifesaver.

DeanSims 01:58, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

thank you
thank you i dident do well on 1200ad and i dident have the guts to delete it and well it was my 1 one but thanks

Thank You
Thanks for dealing with Scan Lurker. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Is it possible that I can join the discussion as well? RandomWriterGuy 00:15, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

LOL, three thank you's in a row. I think I have it handled, we don't want to escalate the situation. LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:22, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

However, how should Scan be punished: should we ban him from being a mod or should you add rebellions in Sweden? I mean the rebellions in Sweden is good because that what he would get more annexing a lat of ethnic groups around Sweden with implausibility. Banning as a mod would prevent him from making any future trouble between him and other players. RandomWriterGuy 01:11, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think anyone could replace him as a mod, he does so much for the stability. Sweden won't last in its current size forever though, although not right now. Balkanization (to some extent) will occur to most nations with multiple ethnicities eventually, you can count on that. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:23, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. But what about LG? Will he make a decision about this too? RandomWriterGuy 02:20, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why he would, nothing really serious has been done. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:44, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Will Scan be punished though? Nad why hasn't he responded yet? RandomWriterGuy 04:21, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly, Lurk. Though, if he fails to actually go along with any punishments you give him in the game, I'll definitely take note. Lordganon 06:41, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I know you tell me not to Lurk, but after what I saw in the responses from Scand, I'm going to have to interfere because he's TOTALLY wrong, and I feel I need to defend myself. RandomWriterGuy 23:15, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

So Lurk, have you figured out what to do with Scan now? RandomWriterGuy

Sweden
I see your point but all these nations are small and the majority were one by one with many years in between. None of them are an entire player nation. The Eastern Othodox phase was due to heavy Russian influence on the Emperor in the early 1700s. The reconversion followed after the betrayal of the Othodox Church in Sweden. Saami is not a large group only about 5 to 10% of total population (greater than OTL). And Schmittism takes elements of Christianity. Also there are a few mistakes on your list. I conquered Scotland fair and square. Mazovia was given to me by Hungary. I took half of the Japanese colony and then the rest collapsed. The failed attempt on retaking Scotland was defeated by Vietnam and without algorythm as it was an in game agreement. I never tried to retake Prussia. Estonia, Oldenburg (the last bit of Denmark-Norway), Livonia, Denmark were all attempted to be annexed in the face of renewed Russian aggression at the time.

Look at the size of my unalgorized conquests. Conpared to RWG, his are MASSIVE. He is in the process of trying to take the entire UAA... Scandinator (talk) 08:37, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Also Persia's stability, low to begin with (current government for over 150 years) is now on negative because of RWG's uncontrolled expansion. Should anyone attack Persia the entire country would collapse in an instant.Scandinator (talk) 09:07, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

MAJOR ISSUE. I just noticed. Game rules: Vassals MUST be connected or extremely close to a home nation. Persia cannot vassalize Yemen or Brunei. Scandinator (talk) 09:09, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

On another note... tell me how different Hinduism, Islam, Christianity and Buddism are... One has no god, two have one god and one has many gods... Two have idols whilst the other two claim all idols are blasphamic material...... Two promote peace with everything whilst the other two are warmongering......Scandinator (talk) 09:13, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Easternized World Map Game
In your sandbox page, I see that you have an outlined for the proposed Easternized World Map Game. I do have several questions though: RandomWriterGuy 02:20, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Why can't we play as European nations?
 * 2) Why can't the POD bee back at 755 CE just like the TL?
 * 3) Is it possible that some civilizations (like the Aztecs and Incans) can be taken down in one swoop due to the fact they are very technologically inferior and can fall to a more advanced civilziation immedietly?

Easternized World
Just change "majority" to "substantial minority" or something similar. Maybe add in some kind of geographical limitation, which allows the Muslims to still be the majority in those two cities too.

With contradictions like that, you need to change as little as possible. In this case, just a few words does the trick.

While changing the words slightly is still a little off in how possible it is, it makes it work.

Lordganon 08:06, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Neapolitian India
Well... I will agree (so it will become like Sweden and Finland, one nation but can be controled by 2 players?). However, you must know that the system of the mahajhapanas is in place. In OTL India, this existed very far back and was India's early form of democracy where 16 mahajhapans ruled all of India. It won't be that much for Bharat in PM, but around 5 mahajhapanas are going to be needed to come from your territory (its huge!!). So basically its like a... democratic monarchy I think (I will eventually get round to having 16 mahajhapanas, lol). I also agree to the 15 year term.

BTW, the denomynon for Bharat is quite simple, its "Bharati". What dya think? :D Imperium Guy 08:29, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ok then. :D Imperium Guy 20:22, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Posting and Copying and Pasting
The reason I do it is because I want it to continue until a specific year.

Also, for the Sacndinator Issue, have you made a final decision (if I am pestering you around about this, forgive me.)

RandomWriterGuy 00:07, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Remember? He once posted a mod event that was unfair to me, and you told him about that. For more info, see this.

RandomWriterGuy 00:11, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Persian Chaos
I really need some help here: I need advice on how to put the chaos in my country in PM to an end. And once it does, how do I recover my country? (I need the tips badly!) RandomWriterGuy 00:58, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Subterranean Europe
Would you like to be a mod in the map game? I could really use some help with non-player nations actions and help out to carry out moderator revolts and etc.

Also, could you also help out with the maps too (I'm sort of not good with carving territory accurately, especially the tribes and etc.) ? -Kogasa 14:41, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. You're now officially a mod on the map game. -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.png|23px|border]] 17:24, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Table
I'm really busy IRL. I have assessments, and I'm also second in charge of creating both the grade yearbook, and jersey. The table will be up by Tuesday. Scandinator (talk) 08:18, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hungary
It was because i forgot about Karóly, and then, forgot about Karóly dying in 1841. i had to change it after remembered that the current king's name was Károly.--Collie Kaltenbrunner 16:34, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

PM Map
So non mods cannot edit the map? Sorry about that then. :/ Imperium Guy 23:04, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Caliphate
It has actually absorbed most of Sunnism and Shi'a due the main Shi'a country, Persia, didn't recognised the cult before. Also most of Ibadism. Th caliphal Islam also gives the people some improtance, like the element that legitimated the government of a Caliph. It's like the chinese Tianming (Mandate of Heaven). --Galaguerra1 03:05, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Navigation box for Easternized World
Hello LurkerLord. Prior to today, I was unregistered: I now go by Pacificus Viridis. I'm the guy who had been commenting on the 20th century in the Easternized World timeline.

I've created a navigation box for the timeline. You can tell me what you think about it. I modelled it on this template from Wikipedia. Now you'll notice that there's some code that I couldn't figure out how to hide. Any idea how to cover up that crap?

Pacificus Viridis 22:05, March 19, 2012 (UTC) 

The ASBs
Not done yet, by any means. Haven't quite decided, truth be told, on all of them, either.

I know IOST, Technology, Zombies, Diseases, Random, and Misc. are ones to add, but not sure past that yet. Coming along as I see these things.

Yes, things are going to apply to more than one category.

Biased, as in biased towards. The so-called "Wanks."

Lordganon 02:22, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

You could also make the argument that that is biased the other way ;) Lordganon 03:18, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Word of advice: Anything to do with Owen's pages, block 1000 years right away. Lordganon 06:36, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

A suggestion for Easternized World
Well LurkerLord, I've seen the concluding section of the Easternized World timeline, and I think it was an appropriate way to end a grand story.

One suggestion I have is that you add in a few paragraphs about the circumstances under which that South Europe Confederacy came into existence and what exactly it is. Was it meant to be primarily a military alliance like NATO, an economic bloc like the European Union, or something with characteristics of both?

Anyway, thanks for adopting this timeline and finishing it!

Pacificus   Viridis  02:26, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

PM
So, as you have posted the Tamilians have seized most of the country, I think here is how the country should look post-war:

I think I might also establish a vassal in the remainder of Sri Lanka to see through my interests. Thoughts? :D Imperium Guy 20:53, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Not yet. I will post it soon, however!! :P Imperium Guy 22:09, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

I do now. It is pretty rough but it should do the job!! :D Imperium Guy 22:13, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

last time i checked it it siad that and both the USA and uk condemned it. if im wrong im wrong, but i still think i saw it there. DeanSims 23:38, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

then it wasnt him who changed it, but i swear I thought i swa something, that or Imstarting to mix up th wiki and alternatehistory.com. DeanSims 23:44, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Help Me
I am facing a horrible situation. DeanSims is now banned from the game and I made a revised version of it. However, as a punishment for his actions, I have barred him from the game. Yet he constantly says that he has the right to play.

As we are costantly arguing, I really do not want to turn this into a vendetta. Can you help me reach a deal? RandomWriterGuy 16:20, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

DeanSims and RWG
Hey, since you're an admin, can you help figure this thing out? Both of them are banning each other from other map games, and I don't have a position of influence to get them to stop. This is really getting out of hand. Monster Pumpkin 16:26, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Issues with RWG
ALRIGHT, me and RWG are having a sort of mini war right now, and I have banned him from Decline of Rome, that ok with you?DeanSims 18:59, April 1, 2012 (UTC)