Talk:Xian Dynasty (Russian America)

I'm actually surprised by this idea. Thank you for bringing it up and starting an article for it. So far so good.

But if I may, there will need to be some changes to fit both timeline canon and historical context.

The first being that would likely not be emperor during World War II. Even counting the success of his imperial ambitions, he would still die shortly thereafter. In all likelihood, we need a successor (perhaps one that's more "gun-ho" for added "chaos" down the line). From what I've read, his sons were not necessary, so anyone is on the table.

I would guess that and  would not be good candidates, and perhaps this POD would make them pro-Japanese in the long-run. The same may be true for the, which may form in opposition to Yuan and may become allies with Japan during WWII. Perhaps advocating the democratic practices of Japan (at the time).

As for their expansionist ideals during WWII, my guess is that they'd have a more successful army (compared to Japan, which was more of a naval power). While their land neighbors would likely be attacked and annexed, my guess is that they'd be limited to these areas. In this respect, I don't see them invading and occupying beyond Singapore (leaving Borneo alone). While this isn't to say they wouldn't try, my guess is that they'd be unsuccessful in occupying beyond the mainland (think the Blitz over the UK). It may also be possible for China to annex the Lower Amur area from Russia (Khabarovsk and Vladivostok), but they'd be akin to the Nazi reichskommissariats (IMHO).

While the US would drop two bombs on China to end WWII (akin to OTL), I don't believe Beijing or Nanjing would be them (same reason as why Tokyo wasn't bombed). My guess is that they'd be towns of industrial/military importance (as was Hiroshima). I'd also believe the US would avoid attacking areas where the Japanese occupy (not wanting to make more enemies). Maybe Shanghai and Tianjin (the later to scare off the Soviets), but this somewhat negates my previous statement. Those, or other cities in eastern China.

These are just a few ideas I have, but I'm not an expert on Chinese history (so take what I say with a grain of salt). But I do hope this can be expanded upon.

I'd also suggest the following links for other references.


 * https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/yuan-shikai-accepted-as-emperor-of-china.384706/
 * https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-yuan-shikai-succeeds-in-becoming-emperor-of-china.341128/
 * https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-yuan-shikai-lives-longer.411438/

-- 05:13, October 4, 2017 (UTC)