Talk:Cold War! (Map Game)

Can I join the game?- Ownerzmcown 21:38, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Also, can I create my own sphere of influence/union of states?

Sure! Although it cannot be in North America or Europe. Arstarpool 21:43, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Does it have to have actually be real, or can I completely make it up?

You can make it up. However, if it is something like the Confederated League of Immortal Atheist Democrats, then obviously it will not be allowed. Arstarpool 21:52, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Can I be NATO? BoredMatt 22:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Also, as there are really only two major alliances, can there be teams for an aliance?

Yea, everyone belongs to a country. Just choose your country, although the US, Canada, and UK can have 2-3 members. Same with the USSR. Arstarpool 22:09, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oky-doky, I'll just be the USA. BoredMatt 22:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Also, wouldn't the USSR control the Caucasus and Central Asia?

Whoops, I forgot to put them in, when you do the next turn, fill in all the mistakes I made. Arstarpool 22:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

NOTE: You no longer have to ask to be part of it. Arstarpool 22:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

What do you necessarily mean when you say sphere of influence? And I want to join on NATO's side. ProfessorMcG 22:43, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

As in the USA is in the NATO sphere, Russia is WP, OTL Arabia is OPEC, etc. BoredMatt 22:47, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I called Japan. So basically, so we could create our own sphere, like I could join the losers of World War II sphere? ProfessorMcG 22:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the Unaligned is for admins only. Japan is a puppet state of NATO, so, sorry but move on up to the battlefield. The Soviets are waiting. Arstarpool 23:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Remember that you must put a map up for every edit. Also remember that this is a "War" map game. Sooner or later there must be an armed conflict. Arstarpool 23:52, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

So wait, Japan can't become a member of the SCO? Ownerzmcown 23:54, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, Macarthur basically set up a puppet state for the US, and the Japanese were pretty happy about it. Look were it got them OTL. It would be pretty hard for them to be pulled over into another alliance, let alone a socialist one. BoredMatt 00:02, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

It is not Socialist, just because China is communist doesn't mean the others are, India, Indonesia, and Burma are all at this time still democratic republics, they just want a way to be thoroughly protected from Soviet agressions, after all they are anti-Soviet, even China.

The communist schism didn;t happen until 1960, just read that China was pretty cozy with the Russians up until then. And also, India is still part of the Commonwealth (at least you didn't have them leave), so how does that work out? And what possible reason would India have for joining a new organisation that is headed by socialists that are still friends with the USSR?

Haha, I don't know much about the Soviets. I can take control of them, but I don't doubt that most of what I say will be implausible, though inadvertant.ProfessorMcG 00:11, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Arstarpool invite to the game, in Venezuela. Might I have my own Latin America Sphere of Influence and some type of South American "European Union"? Venezuela was the power of Latin America at the time.VENEZUELA 00:18, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, but there were some Western alligned nations, like Peru and Argentina, that were pretty good allies with the West, I doubt they would join. Currently, I would realisically see V. and Columbia with populations supporting a EU style thing, maybe Brazil as well. But, you being Venezualan, I guess you could guess better than me on these things. BoredMatt 00:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Venezuela, Brazil was powerful too. Remember that this is a war map game and we are going to eventually have to have SOME sort of war break out. Arstarpool 00:30, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Forgot Bolivia and Paruguay. :) BoredMatt 00:49, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I have to repeat myself, but remember that this was originally going to be a NATO Vs. Warsaw Pact Map Game. Don't get strayed off on stuff like going into space. Arstarpool 00:54, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nepal was one of the biggest supporters of the Commonwealth, why would they join the SCO? Ever heard of the Gurkhas? BoredMatt 00:55, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

@Arstarpool: I agree, but it's not that fun when there are really only two sides. It will be interesting to see how it pans out with four major powers. And what's wrong with starting the space race?

I have now, thanks to Wikipedia. Arstarpool 00:57, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Bolivia and Paraguay were extremely good friends of Venezuela, specially Paraguay, it was ALMOST a puppet goverment.VENEZUELA 00:58, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nepal was never even an actual member of the Commonwealth, besides they have great relations with India which also has great relations with China Ownerzmcown 01:01. June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Spain dind't join NATO until 1982.VENEZUELA 01:58, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll write it in. Due to rising tensions Spain will join in 1961.Arstarpool 02:05, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Cuba never joins LAU. VENEZUELA 02:07, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join as Italy? Fedelede 13:02, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Fedelede, we need some Warsaw Pact members. We have 2 and a half people on NATO and 1 person on Warsaw Pact...Arstarpool 15:25, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

2 and 1/2? BoredMatt 20:02, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Members of Non-Aligned may contribute to both. However, it is reserved for the administrators. I will appoint a new administrator to this Map Game by 1980. Arstarpool 20:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just to say, everyones doing great! It's the second largest map game right now! Lets get it up to the first! Arstarpool 20:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Meh. Czechslovakia? Fedelede 22:05, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Great place, but not really the best nation to play, IMO. BoredMatt 22:06, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Poland? Fedelede 22:10, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I suppose. Doesn't look like McG is really playing the game, and hes on right now, so you could ask him to take over from him on the USSR. BoredMatt 22:13, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Haha....sorry. I'm willing to play as the Soviets I'm just afraid to do it alone.ProfessorMcG 22:17, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

So can you just give full independence to Poland, Czechslovakia, or Romania? Fedelede 22:17, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

OK which one? Poland, Czechoslovakia, or Romania? ProfessorMcG 22:22, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Czechslovakia. thank you :) Fedelede 22:23, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thats cool with me but I don't think they would be allowed to just drop out of the Soviet Union, NATO has to be involved or something or else it wouldn't make sense. ProfessorMcG 22:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

They were never part of the Soviet Union, just the WP. Just say that they got a new leader who isn't simply a puppet of the Soviets. BoredMatt 22:41, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Professor McG, you need to get serious about this game, the Warsaw Pact hasn't moved in what seems like ages. Ownerzmcown 00:12, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yea dude, we can't play the Cold War if there is no USSR, no matter how powerful the SCO or LAU is. BoredMatt 00:14, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Latin American Union?
While I appreciate that every continent is forming its' own block of power, this is beginning to become one of VENEZUELA's Venezuelan puppet-state expansionist regimes. I ask that you do not include all of the countries in Latin America because a lot of them disagreed with each other at the time.

Don't Worry Brazil, Argentina, and Chile, will not join, maybe in the next decades other countries will join.

Remember to keep it slow. These countries will not join very quick. It may take two decades for all Central America to get involved. And even then you must keep Panama and Costa Rica out for political reasons. Arstarpool 01:28, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Someone needs to switch sides
We have three on NATO and allies, and 1 on Warsaw Pact. Either BoredMatt, Mumby, or Venezuela must switch over. Arstarpool 01:23, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Get someone to switch sides and create a pro-Soviet power bloc like somewhere in the Carribean or Africa, their the only places not completely taken over by the other blocs, maybe in the Middle East. Ownerzmcown 01:46, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

When I try to create power bloc in the Middle East every one absolutely resists it. ProfessorMcG 02:01, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'd back you up, ask the others what you think. Ownerzmcown 2:02, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

After you resisted me you're ready to switch sides and allow me to do this? Ok, I just want Afghanistan as an ally first.

I can use Pakistan's resentment towards you. ProfessorMcG 02:09, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Its not that I want to switch sides, but if it makes for a better game, I'm all for it, hell I'll pull SCO troops out of Afghanistan if I have to. Ownerzmcown 02:13, June 24, 2010 (UTC)