Talk:New Netherland (13 Fallen Stars)

13 Fallen Stars

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Timeline

 * 1787 – The Constitutional Convention collapses.


 * 1788 – The United States of America ceases to exist. Shortly afterwards, New Jersey and New York agree on the continuation of the confederation between the two states. Discussions also talk of a federation between New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.


 * 1789 – New York confirms the presence of New England surveyors well west of Lake Champlain. Soldiers kill the men, sparking the Vermont War.


 * 1791 – The Vermont War ends with the "Treaty of Providence," in which New York agrees to relinquishing its claim to Vermont. NY also agrees to relenquish its claims west of the St. Lawrence River and the Great Lakes, in exchange that all the states of New England relinquish all claims which lie within New York's borders.




 * 1792 – New York and New Jersey meet in Trenton to officially establish the . The name New Netherland was unanimously chosen for the new nation, as it both moved the nation further away from British colonialism and was an already established unity name for the two states. As part of the Trenton Agreement, the two states were divided up into five new entities. New Jersey was divided between East and West, New York agreed to sell Richmond County to East Jersey and allowing the three counties of Long Island to be admitted as their own state. New York would also agree to transfer all of its claims in the north to the federal government (to be divided into future states) if the capital would be in Albany. Albany was also selected as a means to encourage northern population growth. New York Governor  would be elected as the first President of New Netherland. That same year, New Netherland agrees to sell parts of its northern territory to neighboring Pennsylvania to allow them a coastline to Lake Erie (the ).


 * 1798 – The Capital District of Albany is finalized as a federal district of New Netherland.


 * 1805 – The Albany District is divided into the new territories of Schenectady in the east, and Iroquois in the west. The area around Albany becomes the Capital District.


 * 1820 – Construction begins on the.


 * 1828 – The Erie Canal is completed, connecting the Great Lakes to the Atlantic River (via the Hudson River).


 * 1829 – The area west of the Genesee River is admitted as the State of Niagara.


 * 1831 – The southern half of the Schenectady Territory is admitted as the State of Schenectady. The northern half becomes the Adirondack Territory.


 * 1842 – With the independence of Canada, the exiled Iroquois people return to their homelands in the Iroquois Territory, which now demands statehood. Statehood is finally allowed after the territory agrees shrink its size. All area north of the Black River are transferred to the Adirondack Territory, and the southern half of the territory becomes the Genesee Territory.


 * 1850 – The Adirondack Territory is admitted as the State of Adirondack.


 * 1855 – The Genesee Territory is admitted as the State of Genesee.


 * 1867 – The purchase of the Dutch West Indies is finalized, and becomes the Curazao Territory.


 * 1868 – The purchase of the Scandinavian West Indies is finalized, being merged into the Curazao Territory.


 * 1882 – As part of negotiations, France offers to sell their claim to the northern half of St. Martin (plus neighboring St. Barts) to New Netherland. The Curazao Territory is expanded further.


 * 1888 – An armed rebellion takes place in the British Virgin Islands, spreading to neighboring Anguilla. The two islands declare independence as the Federation of Anguilla and the Virgin Islands, and demand New Netherland administration. To prevent war between New Netherland and Great Britain, President Grover Cleveland demands a peaceful resolution to the issue (despite many in the Federal Assembly supporting the annexation of the islands).


 * 1898 – War breaks out between New Netherland and New Granada over the easternmost islands in the Leeward Antilles (which is claimed by both parties). The war ends months later with a New Netherlander victory.


 * 1953 – The Curazao Territory is divided between the (southern islands) and the  (northern islands). The two regions are admitted as the states of Curazao (south) and Statia (north).

The Empire State
President William H. Seward is able to persuade the Federal Assembly to vote in favor for the purchases of the Danish West Indies, the Dutch West Indies, Saint Barts, and the French portion of Saint Martin. Unlike "" in OTL, the purchase of the was seen as a major part of New Netherland's imperial power.

In the late 1870s, tensions between British colonists in the British Virgin Islands and Anguilla spark revolt and demands to be annexed by NN (which NN supports). Tensions between the growing power of New Netherland would lead to war in 1898 with Venezuela over the islands off the Venezuelan coast. The war would end with a victory for New Netherland, leading to the popularity of. Roosevelt's administration would be further open to the expansion of the "New Dutch Empire," leading to tensions with Great Britain.

Presidents of New Netherland

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The following list shows the year of each presidential election. The first one was held shortly after the ratification of the constitution in 1792. The inauguration of each president varies, but now happens on the 1st of January the year following the elections (held in October-November).


 * Grover Cleveland bio


 * People to note


 * : Vice President (1801-03). Most known for killing in a duel. If Hamilton remains loyal to Washington, he could become a greater part in Virginia (rather than NY), so no duel.


 * : NY Governor (1959-1973); Vice President (1974-77). While born in Maine (OTL), his would remain in NN territory (maybe he would have been born in the Curazao Territory because of the oil).


 * OTL Presidents


 * (1812)
 * (1816)
 *  (1836, 1848)
 * (1852)
 * (1864)
 * (1868)
 * (1872)
 * (1876)
 *  (1884, 1888, 1892''')
 *  (1904, 1912)
 * (1904)
 *  (1912, 1916)
 * (1916)
 * (1928)
 *  (1932, 1936, 1940, 1944)
 * (1944, 1948)


 * OTL Vice Presidents


 * (1796, 1800)
 * (1804, 1808)
 * (1804, 1808)
 * (1816, 1820)
 * (1824)
 *  (1832)
 * (1844)
 *  (1848)
 * (1856)
 * (1868)
 * (1876)
 * (1896)
 *  (1900)
 * (1908, 1912†)
 * (1912)
 *  (1920)
 * (1964)
 * (1984)


 * Political movements

New Netherland has gone threw three major political movements that helped to define the nation today. All three were represented by their own political party, and two of them reign as the dominant two parties.


 * Republican movement (Clintonian) – Much like, but more staunch on Federalists (which made up the dominant force in neighboring New England). The movement was less concerned with states rights, and extremely anti-British and anti-New England. Represented by the Republican Party (i.e., ), the movement dominated the country until the 1830s. While opposition parties were allowed, New Netherland ran as a single-party state between 1795 until 1834. Party members supportive of Martin Van Buren would leave the party in the 1830s (but would not collapse then). The party would collapse in the 1850s, leading to half a century of Democratic superiority against unsuccessful opponents.


 * Democratic movement (Van Burenian) – Much like . The DP was more favored of the common man, states rights, and expanding the idea of New Netherland supremacy and expansion. The opposing Republican Party would remain a competitor until the 1850s, in which opposition parties remained limited and unorganized. The most successful of these parties was the Congressional Party, which lasted until the 1870s. It wouldn't be until the new century that New Netherland became a true two-party state.


 * Progressive movement (Rooseveltian) – . Lead by Theodore Roosevelt, the Progressive Party would unite the divided opposition from both the Democratic Party and the unorganized "Congressuionalists".

New list

 * R = Republican (Democratic-Republican)
 * D = Democrat
 * W = Congressional/National Republican (Whig)
 * P = Progressive

''The following list shows the year of each presidential election. The first one was held shortly after the ratification of the constitution in 1792. The inauguration of each president varies, but now happens on the 1st of January the year following the elections (held in October-November).''


 * 1792 &mdash; –  (R)
 * 1795
 * 1798
 * 1801 &mdash; –  (R)
 * 1804
 * 1807 &mdash; –  (R)
 * 1810
 * 1813
 * 1816 &mdash; –  (R)
 * 1819
 * 1822
 * 1825 &mdash; –  (R)
 * 1828
 * 1831 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1834
 * 1837
 * 1840 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1843
 * 1846 &mdash; –  (W)
 * 1849
 * 1852
 * 1855 &mdash; –  (W)
 * 1858
 * 1861 &mdash; –  (W)
 * 1864
 * 1867
 * 1870 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1873
 * 1876 &mdash; –  (W)
 * 1879
 * 1882
 * 1885 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1888
 * 1891
 * 1894 &mdash; – †/ (D)
 * 1897
 * 1900
 * 1903 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1906
 * 1909 &mdash; –  (P)
 * 1912
 * 1915
 * 1918 &mdash; –  (P)
 * 1921
 * 1924
 * 1927 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1930
 * 1933 &mdash; – †/ (P)
 * 1936
 * 1939
 * 1942
 * 1945
 * 1948 &mdash; –  (P)
 * 1951
 * 1954 &mdash; –  (P)
 * 1957
 * 1960
 * 1963 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1966
 * 1969
 * 1972 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 1975
 * 1978
 * 1981 &mdash; –   (D)
 * 1984
 * 1987
 * 1990 &mdash; –  (P)
 * 1993
 * 1996
 * 1999 &mdash; –  (D)
 * 2002
 * 2005
 * 2008 &mdash; –  (P)
 * 2011