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 * I think that's what you meant, but I'm not sure. - Mister Sheen 17:35, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * You could just do it the way you would create any other page (make a redlink from another page, and click on the link to start creating the category). Since it's a category, the link shows up at the end of the article.
 * As for templates, my skill mostly goes as far as this kind of thing, which doesn't really count because I'm just using another template to make it. I'm trying to learn more wiki-code, but I've never been great at that kind of thing. - Mister Sheen 18:48, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely! I'd take history and literature over science and technology any day. - Mister Sheen 20:47, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Chicago (Napoleon's World)
What do you think would happen to Chicago in the Napoleon's World timeline? I'm guessing that it would fade into obscurity, and large amounts of the population (or all of it) would leave. If the city doesn't end up liek Gary, it would probably end up like Detroit in OTL (of its 137 square miles, 60 are completely uninhabited).

College Ball (Napoleon's World)
My picks (in bold):


 * National Championship at the Sugar Bowl: #1 Huron Highlanders (13-0) vs. #2 Nova Scotia Sea Lions (12-0)
 * Huron Highlanders


 * Texas Bowl: #4 LSU Tigers (12-1) vs. #10 Washington Huskies (10-2)
 * LSU Tigers


 * Rose Bowl: #3 Pacifica Orcas (12-1) vs. #8 Indiana Hoosiers (11-2)
 * Pacifica Orcas


 * Silver Bowl: #5 Kahokia Thundering Herd (11-1) vs. #9 South Carolina (10-2)
 * Kahokia Thundering Herd


 * Orange Bowl: #6 Cuba Spaniards (12-1) vs. #14 Northern Apachia (11-1)
 * Northern Apachia


 * Peach Bowl: #20 Mississippi Falcons (9-4) vs. #17 Maryland Terrapins (9-4)
 * Maryland Terrapins


 * Manhattan Bowl: #7 Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen (11-1) vs. #18 Missouri Tigers (9-3)
 * Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen


 * Paradise Bowl: #11 Florida State Seminoles (10-2) vs. #22 USC Trojans (8-4)
 * Florida State Seminoles


 * Chicago Bowl: #12 Michigan State Spartans (10-2) vs. #21 Alabama Crimson Tide (8-4)
 * Alabama Crimson Tide


 * Citrus Bowl: #13 Nebraska Cornhuskers (10-2) vs. #15 Massachusetts Minutemen (10-2)
 * Massachusetts Minutemen

Lordganon 21:20, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

College Football
Great idea, man. I don't really follow the season much, but here's my picks anyway: - Mister Sheen 22:28, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huron Highlanders
 * LSU Tigers
 * Indiana Hoosiers
 * South Carolina
 * Northern Apachia
 * Maryland Terrapins
 * Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen
 * Florida State Seminoles
 * Alabama Crimson Tide
 * Massachusetts Minutemen


 * Ah crap, can I change my vote? I haven't accidentally voted against a Minnesota team, too, have I?
 * Yeah, that's why I picked Alabama, too. Anyone who plays Michigan is alright with me! - Mister Sheen 21:51, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, I think ya picked the wrong person for someting like this, but I will still suggest who I think should win, if you want.


 * Nova Scotia Sea Lions (cause, well I'm Canadian)
 * LSU Tigers
 * Pacifica Orcas
 * Kahokia Thundering Herd
 * Cuba Spaniards
 * Maryland Terrapins
 * Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen
 * USC Trojans
 * Michigan State Spartans
 * Nebraska Cornhuskers.

These are my picks, but I'm not a major football fan (or for that matter baseball, hockey, soccer (ahem, actual football, in case anyone not from North America is reading this), or for that matter, most sports). Still, I hope this still works for ya! Tbguy1992 01:18, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Tables
You're welcome. The fix was an easy one. Harder was to find the accompanying map. As a suggestion, It would be nice if the article at least gives out the names of the territories of the French Empire outside Europe. JorgeGG 01:51, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

A query from a friend...
Hey KingSweden, I got a question for you based on FTBW, of you would like to help me.

I'm just wondering if where I am in my TL (about the late 1930's, just before ATL's World War Two) makes sense, cause recently I've been uncertain about how well it works, and if it make some sense.

If you could let me know, that would really help me, especially now that I'm home for the holiday's and done exams, so I have time to work on FTBW. Thanks a lot! Tbguy1992 19:23, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, thank you for your advice, and I have been looking over it, and saying "it fits at the moment, so it works."


 * But, from your point of view, do you think their is something that I should go into more detail about? Becuase, to be honest, I really don't know, and won't really get to that point for a while longer, when I start working on my other articles. I'm mostly asking you cause I need a second opinion, cause you know an artist will say "I like this," no matter its flaws or mistakes, mostly because they made it. I'm like that, so I need some feedback to help improve it. I hope you understand.


 * Thanks, and Happy New Year! Tbguy1992 04:24, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Napoleon's World
Way I figure it, your timeline is one of the best two on the site, quite honestly. Always nice to read a good article, lol.

I'll remember that if I have any ideas for you - cant think of any off the top of my head, but I know I did have a couple halfer's for ya at one point. Now to see if I can remember, lol.

Can't wait to see the end of the Alaskan War, myself. When that thing's done I'm pretty confident it'll be the best on the wiki, lol.

Lordganon 10:22, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * More or less what I'd meant, lol. Lokk forward to the rest of the article. Lordganon 21:55, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Batman vs. Superman, dude that's genius! I'll have to take a look at all the other media pages, they sound awesome too :) - Mister Sheen 18:03, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, King Sweden
Your and Yankovic's article Alternate Destinies (Napoleon's World) is the winner of the 2011 Stirling Lifetime Achievement Award for an Article. You may discuss with the co-writer about how to display the award, which the both of you may do in any way you see fit.

Of all the article that could have beaten my own, I'm pleased that it was that one. Keep up the good work and good luck in the next year. Red VS Blue 23:12, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
Would you be interested at all in a position on the TSPTF? Lordganon 15:55, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it would more so be a Lieutenancy - which is basically helping to police the wiki by reverting bad edits you see and banning those who vandalize the wiki, not really coding or anything (though, you could do some of that if you wanted, lol). Not really time intensive, honestly - just keep half an eye out for bad edits when you look at the recent changes on the wiki, and have a look to see if there is any uncategorized articles/categories when you have a chance/the time(not that there is usually any of these to worry about - me and Mitro usually catch them all)

Yeah, those are pretty interesting little articles. Would Kialgory and Evgenigrad be alternate versions of Calgary and Edmonton, by any chance?

Lordganon 07:01, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a few vacancies right now ;) Always done by vote, in the end - and, if you're interested, I'll nominate you.

Perfectly reasonable to inflate them - both otl can support a lot more in their metro regions than they do. Though, as an Edmontonian, I feel I must ask you to have Evgenigrad be the larger of thew two, lol.

Lordganon 10:14, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, not really. Calgary can be a touch warmer sometimes in the winter, as it gets "Chinook" winds occasionally that bring in warm air from the Okanagan Desert and other hot areas in southern BC. But, it's otherwise a touch colder because its at a bit of a higher elevation. More or less evens out. Lordganon 04:14, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

I should add as well that the population difference between Edmonton and Calgary is mostly an accident of history - Edmonton as a settlement is far older, dating to the original fur-trading posts there long before the arrival of Alaska atl. The CPR was put through the Calgary area originally because there was no real land claims on the line already there, while to the north there was. Atl, Alaska would have any such line running further north, for security concerns. And then there's the oil found at the turn of the century near Calgary that got all of that infrastructure originally installed there, which probably wouldn't really happened either. Lordganon 05:03, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

No doubt, that would indeed happen. At any rate, you've given it all the nice oil, energy, and technology, so I can live with it, lol.

Have you given any more thought to the TSPTF offer?

Lordganon 06:24, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

You have now been nominated. All you have to do now is head over to http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_History:Request_for_user_rights and accept the nomination. Lordganon 22:50, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Stewart/Stewart's Follies
There seems to be some clash between your new "Stewart" article and the Television article. It has allready been established that Jon Stewart's alternate history sitcom was more of a ATL Drew Carey Show than an alternate Seinfeld. Just letting you know.

Yank 03:08, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alexander III
Hey man, Thanks for complemnting on my work!, The photo i used for Alexander III was Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, In OTL, He was a famous Russian composer and apart of "The five". Don't mind if I add some photos to the articles?

Actually, would you mind telling me the list of Tsars of Alaska?, If you can, I'll be glad to make some edits of there profiles.

Some "Napoleons World" edit updates.
So, I saw some of the photos you had of some Tsars, Well, I got some photos of them in old age, On "Alexander I" Im going to make that photo you posted into the photo of him being a prince, same with the others if you post tsars in there younger stage, also i saw the flag you created, I'm sorry man but im not digging it being a national flag, but let me see i can do with it.

This is not a big deal, but I managed to improve your map of the U.S. in your Naploeon TL. I got rid of the small white dots and colored in the missing U.S. land (District of Columbia, small islands, etc). BlackSkyEmpire 22:57, February 15, 2011 (UTC)BlackSkyEmpire

Maurice I
John XX, Ironicaly, the Pretender to the Bourbon throne

Also I have some really awesome ideas for NW, Care for me to share?

02:53, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say this but theres a problem with that image of Edmond. It has the Iron Cross in it which is more of a symbolism for German Imperialism then French Imperialism. Heck even look at a picture of Frederick William III, he's wearing it.

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Lieutenant in the TSPTF. This allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you administrator powers on this wiki. I would like to spend sometime discussing those powers:


 * You should now notice a red button at the top of every article with the word "Delete". You can use this to delete articles, obviously. Use this power sparingly and always stay within the framework of the Deletion Policy. The policy itself was passed with little discussion, so if you have any suggestions or comments regarding it I would be glad to hear it.
 * You can also block users from editing. This can be done by clicking on the History page for articles or the Contributions tab on editor's user pages. Again, use this sparingly. This is our most destructive tool. We don't have a policy on this, but there is a general custom that has been followed: always assume good faith with edits (unless obviously vandalism), warn before blocking (try using the three strikes approach) and start with short block durations for first time offendors. Generally other administrators will not interfere with your decisions regarding blocks, as long as it appears fair on its face.  Permanent blocks, however, must be brought before the TSPTF as a whole and will only be confirmed if there is a 2/3 approval.
 * You will also notice a button on the top of every article that says "Protect". With this you can prevent certain people from editing a single article. The first level prevents anons and new users from editing an article. The second level limits editing only to administrators. Use this to prevent excessive vanadalism or to prevent edit wars between users.
 * In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page.
 * There are other obscure powers that are not used often. If you have any questions on those or the ones I mentioned above, feel free to ask me.

Finally if you go to the TSPTF page, you will notice that we have a list of Responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck. Mitro 15:27, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

OTL Photos
Yeah sure thing. Also i didn't make that poster, I just added the 2002 bit. lol

Vidboy10 21:53, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Albert II is Albert II. ;) Sebastien is Vladimir Kirillovich Vidboy10 22:17, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

South America (Napoleon's World)
Hola KingSweden!! :) Of course, i will glad if i can help you in something. Well, first, the word "Plausible" is correct :P Puedo hablarte en español? así puedo escribir más rapido jeje En base a mis conocimientos sobre la historia colombiana, el articulo de Colombia tiene muchas diferencias con la Colombia de OTL, especialmente en los partidos politicos, debido a que Historicamente la politica Colombiana fue dominada por los Partidos Conservador y Liberal (de donde surgieron despues algunos movimientos de izquierda democratica) hasta cerca del 2000. No tengo información alguna sobre Partidos Reformistas, Democratas Cristianos o Republicanos. Además, me di cuenta que los nombres de los presidentes colombianos no son reales O_O Creo que podrías modificar esos aspectos de la politica del país, y mantener sin alteraciones el resto de la historia. De momento, esto te puedo decir. Si necesitas mas ayuda, solo dime. Saludos --Katholico 23:47, February 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Que bien :) Bueno, tienes razón sobre los partidos politicos, en esta timeline he visto muchos sorprendentes cambios historicos en diferentes lugares y por eso quizás es posible que esos partidos existan. La verdad, no he leído toda tu TL, solo lo basico. Lo que mas he leido es el articulo Alternate Destinies, el cual me parece muy genial y divertido :D. Respecto a ideas para el resto de Sudamerica, dejame leer antes un poco mas tu timeline para intentar pensar en algo. --Katholico 00:52, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have some questions: ¿Como Chile y Peru anexan todo el territorio de Bolivia? ¿A través de alguna guerra?.

Y quisiera saber cual a sido la politica internacional de Chile, Peru y Paraguay?, es decir, de que naciones han sido aliados o enemigos esos paises? Por ejemplo, aqui en este articulo sobre futbol soccer dice que Chile y Argentina son archi-enemigos, de forma similar a OTL. --Katholico 02:42, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, ahora entiendo. ¿Chile ha estado en alguna guerra? Sobre Allende, es una idea muy buena (de hecho cercana a la realidad), pero te refieres a que él sería un dictador Marxista, no? Pinochet podría tener un Alternate Destiny en esta timeline, asi como varias figuras chilenas. --Katholico 03:08, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Si, lei que Chile era Comunista (casi como pudo ocurrior en OTL) y que despues de la derrota en el Mundial de Futbol el gobierno comunista cayó. Y asi es, Chile y Argentina han sido desde después de la independencia "enemigos y rivales". En muchas ocaciones hemos estado al borde de la guerra, pero nunca ha ocurrido algo gracias a Dios. Se podría decir que hemos estado en algo como una "Guerra Fría". La ultima vez que hubo una crisis militar fue en Diciembre, 1978, por la soberanía del Canal del Beagle. --Katholico 03:19, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey man!
Hey Man! I was just curious, since I did a lot for you.

Could you do something for me? :]

Vidboy10 20:55, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

I was curious if you could contribute to my TL Multi-Colonial Australia.

Logos
I think I can help - though Oer is the resident guru on Photoshop around here, I'm not too bad with GIMP.

I think I see the issue, but tell me what you think the problem is, and I'll fix it/them.

Lordganon 04:37, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

So more or less what I thought, lol. I'll get to it next time I wake up, then.

As for Spokane, canon has long had a different fate for it than being hit. We've now got the military base being hit, which would damage, though not destroy, the city. Wikipedia says that the big companies hadn't actually moved there yet, for the most part, either, at Doomsday. The plants in rural Alabama has to do with steel mills, lol. Somehow, there ended up being tons of the blasted things there, and those kind of mills, in large numbers, are like a bulls-eye for nukes.

Lordganon 13:22, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

I've uploaded a new version of the logo. Looks a tiny bit choppy around a couple of edges - just how it worked out when making it solid, but shouldn't be noticeable on most smaller sizes you use - but its one color now. I'll work on getting the edges smoothed out.



Lordganon 17:09, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Cleaned it up. Also changed it to a PNG file, which will keep the changes and not shade up like that again. Lordganon 17:49, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem. Always willing to help. Lordganon 19:14, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lee Harvey Oswald
How do you like the idea of Oswald being friends with Kennedy?

96.63.34.186 21:32, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

1983
Yeah, I'd known you started it. A good article. I like the idea of the new one you've started - I'll try tpo help ya with it, if you'd like.

No, there's not a specific article on it. It's mentioned, somewhat in passing, in the NAU, New United States, and Utah articles, as well as (I think) in Cascadia and Pasco too.

Don't worry about the logo. Always willing to help, and I'll fix uo any logos you need it done to =)

Lordganon 22:05, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW Pics
Not at all! Go right ahead, and thanks for letting me use yours as well. ^^ Tbguy1992 23:09, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Empire of Mexico
I have an idea for an addition to the Napoleon's World timeline. What if the French-supported Empire of Mexico survived to this day? As far as I could tell there are no refrences to Mexico in the timeline so far, so it could be inserted with little trouble. What do you think? --Yank 20:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Here's my idea of what happens. After Austria is conquered during Napoleonic Wars, the Austrian royal family flees to Mexico in exile. The exiled royals influence the colony in the years, and when Agustín de Iturbide becomes Emperor of Mexico he solidifies his claim by wedding a Hapsburg Princess. To satisfy the Republican elements a constitution is adopted. Over the years the royal house slowly becomes more and more Mexican. The process of Mexicanization ends around the present day.

Yank 22:10, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I allways thought that Mexico would be a strong American ally from it's creation. It's because I thought that the Mexican Royal family would have nothing to do with the French, as they have a large Austrian Hapsburg branch. They would blame the French for having to flee their homeland. They way I understand it is alliance means economic aid, economic aid means more jobs, and more jobs means not having to flee to America illegally.

Yank 19:49, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I seriously doubt America would be too choosy, especially with the never-ending cold war with France to consider. And considering the unpleasent history the Hapsburgs have with France, they would be an enthusiastic ally to America. What if they are like Alaska, with a rocky relationship at first, then a conflict, then have their relations slowly but surely improve.

Hetalia is a show that approaches history in terms of people. The nations themselves are turned into people. Here's a link to the wikipedia page. There would be a character representing France, Alaska, America, etc. Despite their being fewer large conflicts than OTL, it'd still be easy to convert Napleon's World to the same format. And we can have America be the primary protagonist, as I doubt Napoleon's World Japan would be a proper enviroment to spawn anime. How about we have anime start up in America when anime arists flee to America to escape the militarist Japan.

Yank 20:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

How about they have a thriving film industry (possibly an equivilent of Bollywood), the products of which are popular in the United States and South America (but for different reasons). Quite a few of these films have a humorous cameo by the Emperor (who is a member of the Mexican equivlient of SAG) So, what do you think of Hetalia?

Yank 20:31, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I could see a sizable German community in Mexico. It would consist of the decendants of loyal Austrians who followed their royal family into exile.

Yank 01:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

What if the Mexicans had their own, unique form of classical music? It'd be styled after the popular Austrian composers, but strongly influenced by traditional Mexican and Spanish music.

Yank 14:33, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hetalia
Have you ever heard of Hetalia: Axis Powers? It's basically an anime show where history is humorously depicted using athropomorphic representations of nations. What do you think of a Napoleon's World-themed version of Hetalia? --Yank 20:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

So are you going to work on Hetalia next?

Yank 00:29, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I created the Hetalia page for you. You can add to it whenever you want to. I know you have a lot on your plate with the timeline. I just want to tell you that Napoleon's World is an excellent timeline, and to keep up the incredible work.

Yank 03:11, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Central America
What do you think of my new addition of Central America? I'm thinking of helping you by adding pages for the South America countries currently unrepresented in the timeline.

Yank 21:45, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I just thought that since they are surrounded by two powerful nations (Mexico and Columbia), the Central American nations would be more receptive to uniting. I just had no other idea for a name for such a nation. What would you call this nation?

Yank 17:09, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

My Ideas For Napoleon's World
I have some ideas for Brazil and, by extension, Portugal. Since Portugal in OTL was one of England's most reliable allies in Europe, we could have the French despose the King and turn Potugal into a puppet state. The rightful King would then flee to Brazil to establish the Empire of Brazil.

Yank 22:14, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

How about Brazil has a military regime for a period in the 30's-40's, which gets desposed in a coup that restores the monarchy. What do you think about that?

Yank 21:19, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Rat Pack
Yeah, I like the sound of all those ideas. It certainly makes sense for the group to be centered more on Dean Martin/Dino Crocetti than Frank Sinatra (unlike in OTL), because Sinatra didn't develop major organized crime connections until adulthood; whereas Crocetti was significantly involved from the age of 15, possibly younger.

Assuming Crocetti put more effort into his criminal career rather than his singing career; he could have been one of the biggest names in Ohio's criminal underworld by the late 1940s; which is probably the kind of time he would move his operations to Vegas and start working with Joseph Gottlieb. If Gottlieb was running a money-laundering syndicate, or some other non-mafia-type crime; he would probably be more willing to work with Crocetti, as he would have more to gain from having him as an ally. Sinatra could be one of their connections in New York, who moves to Vegas during the 1950s and becomes another major figure in the Mob.

Perhaps Sammy Davis Jr should stay a performer, as a regular headliner at one of Gottlieb's casinos/hotels (after all, that's how Frank Sinatra made his mob connections in OTL). Also, Since Davis converted to Judaism some time after 1954, he might be more likely to work with Gottlieb's mob after that.

Given all of the turmoil England goes through in Napoleon's World, Peter Lawford is kind of a wildcard, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to write him a backstory which brings him into the American criminal underworld. - Mister Sheen 12:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Five Families idea for Sinatra sounds good; as does the Lawford backstory; and your idea for Sammy Davis Jr's role in showbusiness and Civil Rights gave me another thought: perhaps if Davis began attracting more black artists to Las Vegas, then it might accompany or even replace Detroit (Motown) as the center of black music in the 1960s and 70s.

And if Armstrong, King and Cosby rejected Davis because of his criminal connections; then perhaps he would replace Malcolm X as the main "alternative" Civil Rights leader; except he would have a completely different message to Malcolm X. - Mister Sheen 18:13, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean for him to become Malcolm X, just that he would take the role of "main black leader outside the mainstream Civil Rights movement". But it probably does make more sense to leave him as a well-known celebrity with strong mafia ties. - Mister Sheen 18:48, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Email and More Ideas
I'll have to see if I'm allowed to give my email address to you. In the meanwhile, here's some more ideas for Napoleon's World. What if we make a page for the major corporations (or at least the ones butterfly'd into existance by the timeline) of Napoleon's World? I have two ideas (and two Alternate Destinies that come with them) Yank 19:32, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Belushi's (a major resteraunt chain)- After hearing that John Belushi's father worked in the resteraunt business while watching his Biography, I had an idea. What if John Belushi directed his ambition into the family business rather than acting?
 * 2) Lincoln Medical (a medical company)- After Willie Lincoln (or his son) dies, Edward Lincoln (who may have surived in this timeline) becomes determined to help better his fellow man by learning all he can on medicine. He becomes the greatest medical mind of his time, and creates quite a few medicines. The company runs a chain of the finest privately owned hospitals and the Lincoln Institute (an equivilent of the Pasteur Institute.). Edward Lincoln's "tender-hearted, kind, and loving" personality, as descibed by wikipedia, would have made it impossible for him to do anything else if he surived to adulthood. Besides, I think the Alternate Destinies page need more Scientists/Doctors/Inventors.

It'd also be interesting if you included a stint as Surgeon General under his brother in Edward's bio. he'd be chosen, not out of nepotism, but because he'd be one of the best (if not the best) people for the job.

Yank 20:04, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Cameron / Grant
Do you mean making David Cameron into a Hugh Grant-type awkward ineffectual guy who somehow ends up as a national leader? Yeah, I really like that idea. - Mister Sheen 00:31, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Templates
First off, don't worry about the TSPTF stuff. You do actually do more than most people do, lol.

Not quite so good at templates as you think, I'm afraid. The ones I've "made" have been adjusted versions of ones already on here, and not by much at that, lol. But you should be able to do much the same - just take the code for the boxes you mention, copy the code, go to a new template page, paste the code in, and edit it to be like you want.

As for the sports template, the only suggestion I have for you is the company infobox. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Company Not a perfect fit, but should work after a fashion.

Lordganon 20:10, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sports (Napoleon's World)
nice to see the whole list of sport articles in the napoleon world that you did, but they are in some way "too much" to read, can you do a frontpage/portal article about the whole sport world? something like Sports (Napoleon's World), talking about the complete world, with titles that are easier to read and understood? thanks, which one is the most popular sport, in that continent, and in that country? bigger sport star? number of teams that participate in that tournament? the more times champion? great work aniway--Fero 03:24, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Alternate History Fiction
You should make a page on an novel in which Napoleon loses? In other words can you write the article on a novel that effectively paints what the people of the NW timeline think our timeline must be like.

Yank 04:11, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

English General Election
Jack Davenport of Labour would be more my choice. Lordganon 05:19, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Based on my love of FlashForward, I'm going with Jack Davenport. - Mister Sheen 16:35, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I've never used the things, so I've no idea how to make'em work. All I know is that you should just be able to copy it from another election article, and change out the details as needed.

Happy to see the A. War article done too, lol. One of the best articles on the wiki, in my opinion.

Lordganon 09:46, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Batman
Is it OK if I alter the Batman film page? I would like to change it so that the stinkbomb known as "Batman & Robin" is never made. Besides, I feel that the page is much too dirivitive to be alternate media history.

Yank 22:07, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sections of it seem like you just pasted from wikipedia and changed some of the actor's names. Don't you think that the series might be completely different?

Yank 01:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Horror Icons
I have an idea for at least one iconic horror actor. Bela Blasko is a deranged killer obsessed with the idea of vampires, and thought he was Count Dracula. Instead of being in movies, he has movies made about him. Including a series that transforms him into a vampire named "Count Lugosi".

Yank 01:26, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Bela Blasko/Lugosi wasn't born in Romania. He was Hungarian. So, by virtue of the map, he would be exploring the French Empire. And since the OTL Dracula novel has Dracula coming to London (the center of power in Europe), the Napoleon's World version would have Dracula come to Paris. And since this world's Bela Lugosi has an unhealthy obsession with vampires, he would likely read the novel countless times. And he would imitate every detail of Dracula's appearance, and travel plan. here's my timeline for his alternate life: How do you like the idea of a series of movies where he becomes a real vampire after his death?
 * 1889: He is born into a poor Hugarian family, and begins his obsession with the supernatural.
 * 1900: He first reads Dracula, and imagines himself to be a reincarnation of the vampire.
 * 1905: He takes his first life (with the help of prosthetic fangs.)
 * 1910: He has an experimental killing spree, and stops killing for a while to get attention off himself.
 * 1930: He travels to Paris, and has a massive killing spree. He is arrested and tried for the murders.
 * 1931: He is sentanced to death, and is killed in the chair.

Yank 13:58, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Apocalypse (Map Game)
I've created a new map game. It involves a disease epidemic in 1861. This epidemic (or rathe pandemic) diesease effectively destroys the world as they knew it. The Civil War is effectively cancelled from flack of interest. Would you like to play? I still need more players. I'd like to know if you'd like to be our map maker. The game mostly takes place in North America.

Yank 15:33, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

New Germany?
I have an idea for a nation in Africa. What if the French set aside some territory in Africa for independance-minded Gemans to colonize?

Yank 17:15, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Then could territory be set aside for a new Polish homeland?

Yank 19:40, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

How about this. The Prussians settle the area and name it Neu Germania. It remains under Prussian control until Prussia is disbanded. It becomes independant, and stays that way even after the restoration of Prussia. All the while, large amounts of dissatisfied Polish citizens (and maybe even some Russians) emmigrate to Neu Germania to escape French persecution in Europe. Neu Germania becomes the only place in the world where the Polish language is spoken or written (as the French have brutally supressed it). Russian is spoken too, but only in the small (and isolated) Russian communities.

Yank 20:40, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I have an idea. What if the nation of Neu Germania were to house communities from all (or at least most ) of eastern Europe. Because I doubt any slavic group is going to get preferential treatment. There is potential for considerable communities of Belarusians, Czechs, Slovaks, and Ukrainians.

Yank 23:38, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

How about this for the language situation in New Germany. The various native languages are mostly focused in the more rural portions of the nation, in the villages and towns. But the main languages written and spoken in the cities are German and Polish, because it is much more simple to print signs in two languages than dozens. Never mind the fact that these native languages might not even have written alphabets to begin with. The millions of Prussian Germans and Poles mainly live in the cities, and the native Africans live in the rural areas. The Africans in the cities have adopted German (or Polish) culture to varying degrees. Besides, there would be a constant flow of Poles into New Germany, as there is no evidence that the French Empire's opinion of them has changed since the colony was founded in 1902.

Yank 03:36, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

WIP
Got me as to what the problem was. But, I restored it and was able to remove the WIP tag. Don't think that was the issue, mind.

Reminds me of errors that I've been getting lately, with the newest version of Firefox. Would you happen to have the new version of it as well? If so, just close the page, and open it up again fresh, which should help.

Lordganon 00:48, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Even more confusing, then. Weirder still, it has no issue with me editing it, lol. Come back to it in.... ten(?) hours when the wiki servers have had their down time, hopefully that will do some good. Lordganon 05:02, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Heh. I suppose that's a start, though still doesn't help us find out what's wrong, lol. I have had more reports of this going on, mind - and it's something to do with wikia being screwy. Things such as people not able to edit user talk pages, and the like, lol. Weird all around, I suppose. I know I'm having extreme difficulties categorizing pages and files, lol. Just hope that they fix it soon, I guess. Lordganon 05:01, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reply to your inquires
Sorry I have not been able to get back to you as soon as I should have. Been busy with life and slow internet, etc. etc.

Anyway... I will gladly help as much as I can with Kahokia. Winnipeg, before the Panama Canal, was one of the biggest and fastest growing cities in not only Canada, but the world. Being the link between East and West would help with this.

However, with a French Quebec, and an independent Alaska that controls the East and West of OTL Canada, this role might not be as large. But (if you say Global warming is happening), it could be a link with the North (say the OTL port of Curchill), as well as with Alaska and French Quebec.

Another thing I will mention is that flooding is a serious problem. In the spring, melting snow and run off can lead the north flowing Red River (from OTL Minnesota) can lead to Winnipeg and the Red River Valley being inundated with water, and Winnipeg, being situated on the fork of the Assiniboine and Red Rivers, may bear the brunt of the flood. After a massive flood in 1950, this lead the government to build the Red River Floodway, which barely held back the "Flood of the Century" in 1997, though this year is proving to be a headache flood wise in all of Southern Manitoba, so that can be elaborated upon if you wish.

Now, I know I'm late for the English elections, so I'm not going to cast a vote unless you absolutely need it.

For the moment, I may have to pass on the stories. I'm to busy to be able to devote my full attention span to it (I've already been called away three time since I started this... now four >.<). In the future, I will be glad to take a look at it!

I have nothing new to suggest for Napoleon's World. I have been having my own problems with FTBW, and have not had the time to work on it as much as I want, nor the ideas to actually work on it more.

Other than that... nothing much else I can say. Good luck, and hopefully We can chat again soon!

Tbguy1992 01:30, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Hetalia
I want to know if you can provide a cohesive list of nations either allied with the CIC, NATO or Neutral. It doesn't matter if they are merely associated with either alliance, as I want to include all nations in the Hetalia (Napoleon's World) page.

Yank 20:17, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

19th Century Alternate Destinies
I have some ideas for alternate destinies of people who lived during the 1800's.

Yank 00:18, June 12, 2011 (UTC) I've started the ball rolling on Walker. Could you please help me by fleshing it out?
 * Eli Whitney- Shortly after the POD he founds the Whitney Firearms Company. In short he fills a role similar to Samuel Colt's.
 * William Walker- American military advisor to Central America, he assimilates and eventually becomes the Central American President. He lives far longer than OTL, and becomes one of the premier elder statesmen of Central America. An alternate take on him is that he, by some quirk of fate, was born in Central America instead of Tennesee.
 * Ulysses S. Grant- After his retirement from the military in the mid-to-late 1860's he enters the Whiskey-making business. By the time of his death in 1885 his whiskey has a reputation of quality that allows his company to last to the present day. OTL equivilent: Jack Daniel (I based it off of Grants drinking habit.)
 * Arthur Conan Doyle- Infamous serial murderer. This world's Jack the Ripper.
 * Sanford Dole- The Hawaiian equivilent to William Walker. Much more popular than Walker, as his policies strengthened Hawaii's position and his alliance with the United States helped make Hawaii's existance secure.

Yank 17:59, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Same thing with Whitney.

Yank 03:37, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Friendly Isles / 500
First of all, congratulations on hitting the 500 mark! Napoleon's World really is one of the best TLs I've ever seen, and I'm proud to be associated with it, even if my contributions have been pretty minor.

Also, I love your Friendly Isles article. It fits perfectly with the ATL Coolidge's style, and there isn't really anything I would change, but I might add a few extra things in, if you don't mind.

Congratulations again! - Mister Sheen 17:17, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Gratz on the articles, lol. Lordganon 00:47, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler and Other Questions
Why was Hitler killed by the Churat? I saw nothing in his bio to give any reason to kill a sucessful artist.

Yank 18:23, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible for Liechtenstein to be independant in Napoleon's World timeline? I would doubt that their independance would change the timeline too much.

Yank 03:04, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

New Germany
When you get the time can you help me develop the history of Mexico and New Germany?

Yank 01:36, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World G8
Who are the G8 nations in Napoleon's World? I'm going to guess, and I would like to know if I'm right or not. Yank 15:03, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * United States
 * France
 * Japan
 * China
 * Alaska
 * East Prussia
 * Siberia
 * Oceania

Napoleon's World Sporting Competitons
I don't mean to be rude, but I noticed you had been spending an awfull amount of time on the sporting competitions of Napoleon's World timeline. I know sports are your area of expertise, but shouldn't you be spending more time on more estential parts of the timeline? Many of the nation pages I've seen consist mainly of the opening portion of the article and nothing else. I'm doing my best to word this question politely, as don't want to insult your skills at writing alternate history (which are superb).

Yank 17:12, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Luigi Pampini
I have an idea for Luigi Pampini's article. What if he was assasinated by an ODESSA-like organization of De Gaulle-supporting former Churat agents created by De Gaulle himself shortly before the end of the civil war. As they would have secretly carried on Albert II's policies, it would be very plausible if they killed Hitler rather than the Churat. Do you know what they would call it? The name would include "Churat" somehere.

Yank 18:16, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Jaguar Cars (Napoleon's World)
What if Jaguar was a Mexican car company rather than a British brand? It'd be the mexican version of Rolls Royce or Mercedes Benz. A luxury status-symbol brand. The name would make sense, given the importance of the Jaguar in Aztec life and culture.

Yank 04:55, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

U.S Presidents Contest
On the Nexus I have started a U.S Presidents Contest. The Earliest POD can be in the 1944 election.

Are you intrested?

Alexanders 23:41, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Good Job on Your Presidents I like it!

The contest will go on some four/ five weeks so you can put up another one at some point if you want to lol.

Alexanders 02:36, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Salvador Allende
Hi KingSweden! I had forgotten to ask to you something. Originally you had put that such a Ernesto Platera was the successor of Salvador Allende (like in this article). But with the changes that you did, ultimately, only Allende will govern until his death? Regards! --Katholico 04:57, June 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that 1952 is a probably option, specially because according your description of Chile the country in this timeline has had a very unstable history, totally opposite to the real history, where Chile has had an institutional orgaization very solid since his independence (with a few exceptions). By the way, I saw that you already created the article of Ernesto Platera... I was going to try to suggest you a name of a real people for to be the successor of Allende, but seems is late. jejeje Regards! --Katholico 02:01, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Jeje In this case, i suggest to Arturo Alessandri Besa (conservative maybe). What hinks? --Katholico 02:23, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Chernobyl (Napoleon's World)
I have an idea for the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. What if it was a nuclear power plant in Alaska instead of OTL Ukraine? This is because I doubt the French are building nuclear power plants in Russia, considering how Anti-Russian French officials tend to be. Also, what if the Alaskans learned from the mistakes of their American allies, allowing the Cherobyl Nuclear Power Plant to operate uneventfully?

Yank 01:10, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

I wanted the morbid irony of having a Chernobyl that is still peacefully operating. And I used a photo of Mkhail Kalinin. The man the Soviets renamed Konigsburg to honor.

Yank 04:04, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wikitables
Not really something I deal with myself, but you can find an example at http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Presidents_of_the_United_States_%28An_Independent_in_2000%29

The color codes are BBcode, easy enough to find on google.

Lordganon 08:36, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Alternate Destinies
What do you think of Gene Simmons filling the roles left open by the lack of Nicolas Cage in the acting world. As an example, imagine Gene Simmons as Ghost Rider.

Yank 17:37, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

I meant his more watchable films (such as Ghost Rider or Face/Off). Besides, Gene could have made his own films as well. I'm just saying that he would be a pretty decent action hero. He could be an equivilent to Bruce Willis (who is currently serving as the President of East Prussia), rather than Nic Cage.

Yank 17:49, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

My New Map Game
Hey,

I just started the Imperialist America (Map Game), and I would like some players to help me out and to start it, tell your friends, I tink itll be interesting. DeanSims 15:52, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Winter Olympic Games
Hi KingSweden! What you think about the possibility of an South America place (maybe in general, of the Southern Cone) could be choosen as host of the Winter Games? Until today, something like this never has happened. Regards! --Katholico 02:00, July 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Santiago de Chile would the host city; have the infrastructure and nearby are located important ski zones in the Andes Mountains (like complexs of Portillo, Farellones, etc). For the dates, i think that if are the Winter Games, then, the event should be realized in the Winter of host country. Is my logic jeje Regards! --Katholico 02:44, July 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Alta Real seems a good option, specially if is a more developed city than OTL La Paz. Santiago maybe could compete to be the host for 2020. :) By the way, i noticed that you change the description of the history Chile (Honestly, i liked the previous description). Regards! --Katholico 03:48, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

More Questions
Is Hawaii a Kingdom or a Republic? Is it allright if I make Sanford Dole the most popular (or one of the most popular) Prime Minister of Hawaii?

Yank 02:35, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

More 19th Century Alternate Destinies
Some more ideas for alternate destinies in the century less talked about in Napoleon's World. I'm going to add to the list as I go on.
 * 1) Jesse James-Owner of the largest bank chain in the southern United States. Since the Civil War never happened in Napoleon's World, his childhood (being born in war-torn Missouri) would have been a lot more peaceful than in OTL. Likely one of the effects of a lack of a civil war could be that the James brothers being able to gain a proper education. Thus, they would be able to use their ruthlessness legitmately in the business world. Instead of a criminal gang roving from town to town robbing and killing, they would be legitmate businessmen slowly increasing their control of the banking establishment in the South. I could see the chain expanding into the north, and maybe other parts of the world in the years between their deaths and today. It's a riff off my idea for Hermann Goering (art thief becoming legal art collector).
 * 2) John Henry "Doc" Holliday- Instead of becoming a dentist he became a surgeon, and is known as one of the best surgeons in the west. He eventually becomes the Surgeon General of the United States, either after or before Edward Lincoln.
 * 3) Arthur Conan Doyle- Real-life Sherlock Holmes. Holmes still exists, but it is a fictionalized version of Doyle's real life. Simmilar to how James Bond is said to be a fictionalized account of Ian Fleming's experiences as a spy in MI6.

Yank 04:19, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Novel Ideas
What if you set the first one in the immediate aftermath of Napoleon's victory in the Napoleonic Wars. It'd be interesting to see the immediate effects of the POD.

Yank 00:30, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

For myself, I think having a series of novels, similar to Harry Turtledove's Timeline 191 series would be cool. But two stories I think you should do is the Iron Revolution in France and the Anarchy in England.

Tbguy1992 18:26, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * You are right about the Iron Revolution, and the need to shrink it down and that. But, maybe in the same vein you might also want to do the French Civil War in the 1940's, mostly due to the fact that it is like our real World War Two. That would be interesting to see, in my opinion.


 * Tbguy1992 14:59, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think that writing a novel about the French Civil War would be an excellent way to develop it: actually writing the entire thing out would help a lot, I'm sure, to help flesh out the story.


 * Tbguy1992 22:19, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Alternate Destinies
I had a couple of alternate destinies come to me recently. Yank 02:31, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Carlos Mencia- Hugo Chavez-style President of of Central America
 * 2) Jerry Springer- Jerry Farwell-style televangelist.

Which sounds better to you? Carlos Mencia as a dead drug lord? Or Carlos Mencia as living Central American President? I'm liking drug lord more and more. Plus I would think there would be a higher chance of him being named Carlos if his family staid in Central America. Either that, or he changes his name to increase his street cred.

Yank 03:22, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I changed it being him dying in 2008 for darkly humorous reasons. 2008 was the year the god-awful show Mind of Mencia was cancelled.Let's make it May 16th, 2008. Here's how it goes down. Mencia is caught in his mansion in San Pedro Sula (where he was born). He attempts to hold out in the mansion as his guards are slowly butchered. He then charges out, guns a-blazin', yelling a phrase (I don't know what) that becomes immortalized, and gets absolutely riddled with bullets.

Yank 04:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

K'atharan Succession
Sure, K'athar was your idea in the first place, so it's probably a good idea for you to work on the article, too. I've tried to stick to your ideas from the article (though I think some of the canon may have changed since then).

Oh, and you might want to check out these ideas for the other K'atharan wars; and see if there's anything you want to change/add. Mister Sheen 12:10, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ideas
I have a few ideas for Napoleon's World. Mostly focused on Charlie Sheen. What if he kept his birth name of Carlos Estevez instead of using the stage name Charlie Sheen? After all, there is less pressure to adopt a stage name when he isn't an actor. What if, for irony's sake, Charlie has a recurring role on the Napoleon's World analogue of Two and a Half Men as himself? And what if he has a role in one of the Scary Movie films (or other equililent satirical film series) as a strung out, drug-addicted parody of himself? In other words unintentionally mirroring his recent breakdown.

Yank 19:17, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Film Studios of Napoleon's World
We've allready created the page for the film industry of Napoleon's World. So let's lay down the articles for the studios creating these films. I've got some ideas for some film studios otherwise unmentioned by the various articles of Napoleon's World. Yank 05:28, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Atari Films- Japanese government-sponsored film studio. Mostly makes serious films on various subjects. Including a very popular (yet contraversial) biopic on Joseph Stalin. NOTE: The only video game company in Japan is Nintendo. 
 * Villa Films- I want to rebrand the Mexican film studios. I want them to be an equivilent to Britain's OTL film industry. I don't think English films would become an major player in the industry until quite a few years after the Anarchy. I would like Villa films to be an equivilent to the famous Hammer Films studio. I've started to think that the Mexican film industry would be saturated with horror films and films about the supernatural. We are, after all, talking about a country that's culturally obsessed with death and dying. I would think that the article could be changed with little disruption.
 * Bonaparte Films- I would think it would be impossible for us to have a timeline with such a POD to not have a major French film studio. Some of their best films would be films on the comedic effects of a French person encountering or otherwise dealing with an American. One such example is a film called "The Ringer" which is about an American housewife being mistaken for an identical Churat Agent, and vice-versa.

Real people for Colombian Presidents
Hi KingSweden! How are you? I can ask you if I can suggest you, names from real people for some Presidents of Colombia in Napoleon's World? I noticed that you already create the page from 2 presidents, so, before you create more i would like to try to find some real colombia people for occupy this position. What think? If you want to stay with one of the presidents that already you placed there, please let me know. Regards! --Katholico 02:04, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh great! In the next days, I will gather info about colombian and venezuelan politicians and then i will send the names to you. Regards! --Katholico 03:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, here there is a list of proposed presidents:

For the period (1840 - 1874) between Santander and Iglesias Era:


 * 1840 – 1848 José Antonio Páez
 * 1848 – 1852 Pedro Alcántara Herrán
 * 1852 – 1856 Carlos Soublette
 * 1856 – 1864 Tomás Cipriano de Mosquera
 * 1864 – 1868 Juan Crisóstomo Falcón
 * 1868 - 1870 Manuel Murillo Toro
 * 1870 – 1874 Rafael Núñez Moledo

The duration of the presidential terms are only conjetures. jeje

For the XX Century, I searched real politicians who were coinciding with the description of your presidents in the list.


 * Juan Vicente Gómez in replacement of Emanuel Tremas
 * José Gil Fortoul in replacement of José de la Santa Cruz
 * Enrique Olaya Herrera in replacement of David Castro
 * Carlos Eugenio Restrepo in replacement of José Luis de López y Santa Maria
 * Rafael Uribe Uribe (in OTL assessinated in 1914) in replacement of Samuel de Las Plazas de Uribe
 * Alfonso López Pumarejo in replacement of Julian Salvador
 * Rómulo Gallegos or Jorge Eliécer Gaitán (but he born in 1903, then, at 1931 he would have just 28 years old) in replacement of Humberto Ruiz
 * Luis Beltrán Prieto in replacement of Héctor Sanchez
 * Rafael Caldera in replacement of Tomás de las Bondejas
 * Mariano Ospina Pérez in replacement of Oscar Montero
 * Roberto Urdaneta Arbeláez in replacement of Diego Ortegas
 * Rómulo Betancourt in replacement of Miguel Teguís
 * Carlos Andrés Pérez in replacement of Carlos Triago
 * Belisario Betancur in replacement of Felipe Ramón Hernández
 * Andrés Pastrana in replacement of José Amara
 * Horacio Serpa Uribe or Francisco Arias Cárdenas in replacement of Carlos Arenas

What thinks? I hope that this serves you. Any question let me know. Regards! --Katholico 04:12, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * De nada :) But, i can asked, why Alvaro Uribe is President from the left-wing Social Party? Is a Alternate destiny? :O Regards! --Katholico 01:47, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * The party maybe yes, but Uribe himself not. Uribe is most a center-right liberal, and due to this precisely he left the party for run for the presidency in OTL. And in addition, the ATL Social Party seems to me more to the left than OTL Liberal party. This is reason because I was asking. jeje What thinks? Regards! --Katholico 00:01, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ontario
Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner, I've been offline for days and I probably won't get back properly until Saturday. As for Ontario, I only got here last year, so I'm not really an expert, but I can help out if you want. I grew up in Minnesota, if that helps? - Mister Sheen 20:00, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Off the top of my head, the Lake of the Woods would make an absolutely awesome place for a battle, or possibly even a short campaign. It's the biggest lake in the US other than the Great Lakes; it's full of islands (over 14 000, according to Wikipedia), many of which could easily hold fortifications; and it's partially in Ontario as well as Minnesota, so that helps with your original question as well.
 * I'll read up on the Alaskan and Indian Wars and see if I can come up with anything more specific; but pretty much anywhere in the north would make for an interesting skirmish campaign. - Mister Sheen 15:48, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

More Napoleon's World Ideas
I have some ideas for Napoleon's World. Yank 04:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) ODESSA-like French Organization- Like any good dictatorship, the Albert I and Edmond regimes have files on anyone who poses a threat. Whether this threat is real or a product of the dictator's paranoia doesn't matter. The ODESSA-like organization (which were Edmond's supporters) would inherit these files. And, if they were followers of De Gaulle they would have a Franco-centric world view. If Hitler was considered a threat (which is why he fled France) he would have a thick file even if he did nothing to deserve it. And with the obvious fact that he is not a French citizen of the Empire, he would be a target of the ODESSA -analogue.
 * 2) Clint Eastwood- He had his start in movies in the horror film "Return of the Creature". What if, instead of turning to Westerns he remained a horror movie icon? I could very well see him playing Van Helsing or another similar monster hunter.
 * 3) Lon Chaney- The first actor to officially play Dracula. He was the first choice, but the role fell to Lugosi when he died of throat cancer. With Lugosi potentially too busy acting as a real-life Dracula to care about film, he could have gained the part. We just need to have him have a surgury to remove the throat cancer before it kills him.The operation could possibly affect his voice in a way that would make him perfect for the part.

You're likely right on Chaney.

Yank 00:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

What if Eastwood had made a Dracula film a few years before the Van Helsing Trilogy? The first Van Helsing movie was set just after the end of the events of Dracula. It would makes sense that he'd be Van Helsing in that film too. A plausible explanation for how it avoids the crushing regulation of the American film industry is simple. The film is produced by a British film studio called Anvil Film Productions (see the pun?). I would like to know who you would like to see as Count Dracula.

Yank 01:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

How about we have the Dracula film be the one that gives Villa Studios international recognition, which allows them to make better movies than what is typically known for Mexican cinema. After all, the Mexican film industry wouldn't be doing so well without a sucessful example to inspire people. It wouldn't be a Spagetti Western persay, but something similar. Villa's films would get better as they can afford to hire better staff for their films. Again I ask who would be a good Dracula?

Yank 01:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

What if he's played by an actor hailing from his native Romania, and resembles the real man he was inspired by (aka Vlad the Impaler)?

Yank 03:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Scotland and the Clans
Off hand, Smoggy is probably the best source here. But, I expect that looking it up on wikipedia and going through their sources would get you further. Not the article itself, mind, but the links given and their referenced sources at the bottom of the page. Lordganon 21:19, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ok Scottish Clans, first the whole tartan wearing, highland games throwing, sword dancing thing is primarily a Georgian/Victorian invention (Partularly between the reins of George IV, as regent and Victoria).

So if your thinking of ending the Napoleanic wars in the 1810's then none of that will happen. Also the Highland clearances would have been reduced, so imagine the Highlands with a lot more people and fewer Sheep.

The Clans that backed the Stuarts:

Clan Baird, Clan Cameron, Clan Chisholm, Clan Drummond, Clan Farquharson, Clan Grant of Glenmoriston, Clan Hay, Clan MacLea, Clan MacBain, Clan MacColl, Clan Macdonald of Clanranald, Clan MacDonald of Glencoe, Clan MacDonnell of Glengarry, Clan MacDonald of Keppoch, Clan Macfie, Clan Macgillivray, Clan Gregor, Clan MacInnes, Clan Mackintosh, Clan MacIver, Clan Mackinnon, Clan Maclachlan, Clan MacLaren, Clan MacLeod of Raasay, Clan MacNeil of Barra, Clan Macpherson, Clan Menzies, Clan Morrison, Clan Ogilvy, Clan Oliphant, Clan Robertson, Clan Stewart of Appin, Clan Urquhart.

One of these clans would be ideal for making a Royal House fo Scotland.

However if you were thinking of installing a Jacobite claimant to the Scottish throne the last true claiment Henry Stuart died in 1807 with no children (he was a Cardinal in the Vatican!), the claimant between 1807 and 1819 was the King of Sardinia, Charles IV a great-great-great-grandson of Charles I of England and Scotland. So to the possible divisions, Traditionally the leaders of the Western Isles of Scotland (and some of the mainland) were called The Lords of the Isles The MacDonalds were the traditional rulers of that area. They also controlled the Isle of Man.

The Northern Isles (Shetland and Orkney) could be another division. The area is strongly linked to Scandinavia.

As for the mainland south of Edinburgh/Glasgow and the east coast or The Lowlanders who speak lowland Scots and the Highlanders who speak Scottish Gaelic are the obvious divisions, the peoples at the time didn't get on with each other, in fact highlanders used to called the lowlands a' Ghalldachd (roughly 'the place of the foreigner')

Each area could have a seperate 'Kingdom' making the 'Kingdom of Scotland' really the 'United Kingdom of Scotland' under one ruler, like England and Scotland was until 1707.

Or Scotland could be made up out of seperate 'Kingdoms' unified for their own economic good (a bit like the real European Union)

If you need any more help give send me a message --Smoggy80 17:52, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sean Connery as a dictator? interesting? I'm guessing the whole Bond, James Bond thing never happens then? Also you may want to know that his ancestors emigrated from Ireland during the potato famine sometime between 1845 and 1852, it's possible that Napoleon (or more precisly his decendants) organised better than the British did and the mass migration and deaths from Ireland may not have happened, and therefore Connery could be Irish not Scottish, and also his first name is Thomas not Sean.

After all it is possible for a foreign national to be a major person in a nation think Che Gueva who was Argentinian, but helped lead the revolution in Cuba. --Smoggy80 16:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Clan map
I've found this map

Hope you find it useful in any Clan wars --Smoggy80 14:55, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

More Napoleon's World Ideas Volume 2
Yet another dose of my ideas for Napoleon's World. Yank 17:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Robert England- Renowned professor of some, prestegious college.
 * 2) Joseph Mengele (1911-1990)- World-famous French doctor. Noted for his brilliant (if contraversial) procedures, and for sucessfully completing otherwise impossible operations.

More 19th Century Alternate Destinies
Some more 19th Century alternate destinies for Napoleon's World Yank 03:57, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * José Arámbula (aka Pancho Villa)- Famous Mexican General during the Centroamerican War in 1903. My idea of the war is that it's an all-time economic low for Central America, which makes them the target of the Columbians. They turn a minor incident into justification to invade, and set on conquering Central America. Mexico doesn't like this one bit, and declares war on Columbia to support Central America. Villa gets to exibit his OTL strategic genius with full government sponsorship, and the Columbians are defeated. He is then elected president when the wartime President decides to pull out of the race.
 * George Custer - A wild west showman along the likes of Buffalo Bill Cody. He had a personality more suited for drama than for the military.
 * Harry Longabaugh (aka the Sundance Kid)- Bounty hunter with the nickname of the "Sundance Kid". Eventually retired from the business, and gained a liking the developing media known as "motion pictures", and funded an annual film festival that would eventually become known as the Sundance Kid Film Festival.
 * Eli Whitney III- Firearms designer, and son of Eli Whitney. He is the man who makes his father's revolver designs a reality. The Whitney Firearms company is a family business, like the Colt company it emulates. Officially he is the third in the family to have the name, as the father of the cotton gin Elit was also named Eli.

Star Trek (Napoleon's World)
I have some ideas for an altered version of the orginal Star Trek series. The Captain is Christopher Pike, not Captain Kirk. Kirk (who may or may not be played by Shatner), is instead a arrogant and meglomanical madman who intends to transfrom the Federation into his personal empire. Chekov has an increased role due to Alaska's longtime alliance with the United States.

Yank 23:30, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rebecca Black
Okay, this might be a little far-fetched (even by the standards of Alternate History), but what if, in Napoleon's World, Rebecca Black was a child prodigy classical violinist? - Mister Sheen 11:27, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dracula (Napoleon's World)
I think I have the perfect choice for Dracula in the 60's Dracula film. I think John Carradine would be an excellent choice. He was Dracula in two of the "Monster Mash" films of the 40's, but was treated very badly. In both films his Dracula was more like an expendible henchman than the credible villain that he should be. I consider it karmic justice that he would be given a meatier Dracula role. But how would the 60-year-old Carradine play the unaging vampire? I propose that they follow the novel, which has the Count gaining amore youthful appearance as the story progresses (presumably when he feeds). This can be accomplished by makeup and stunt doubles during the action scenes. We can also mention this Dracula's intended resemblance to Vlad the Impaler, the inspiration behind the character itself.

Yank 04:28, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Film (Napoleon's World)
I have an idea for an alternate destiny for Napoleon's World. Yank 23:56, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Leon Trotsky: Famous science fiction actor and director, whose films were groundbreaking relevations in cinema. His films have subtle, yet contraversial Marxist messages imbeded in them. Most feature either religion or capitalism in an antagonistic sense in some form. They are so contraversial that French Churat members force him into exile in either Alaska or America, where he continues to make films. The fact that they are so contraversial in France makes his work immensely popular in America, where he becomes incredibly wealthy. At the end of his life he retires to Mexico, where he dies in his villa in Coyoacán of natural causes (rather than the ice ax he got in real life).

Infobox and others
Hi how are you! I noticed that some articles like Chile and Paraguay don't have yet the nation infobox. I can put the templates? jeje Or you will do it later maybe? Regards! --Katholico 05:41, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK! I put the templates in some countries and complete only with the information in the same articles. :) Regards! --Katholico 02:07, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi KingSweden!!! I forgot to say to you maybe consider the 9.5 Great Earthquake in Valdivia, Chile in the year 1960 for the scenario where to Communists took the power in the country. Just that. Regards! :) --Katholico 05:33, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hello Again!
Yes, indeed, it has been a while. But I'm back to university, taking three history courses, so I'm getting lots of ammunition for Alternate Histories!

Anyway, about the leaders of the Gulf States (or for that matter, the Confederacy before hand and the North CSA after) are still a bit fuzzy, mostly due to my lack of knowledge of the area. I will definitely take into consideration the names you gave me, but if you could help me with other names, that would also be good! I'm not really a "make up names" kinda guy, as I prefer to go with RL people, but I will do it if nothing else comes up.

Also, If you haven't noticed, I'm starting an Alternate Destinies page (inspired by yours with Napoleon's World), but it will need a lot of work done. Also starting to work on culture and entertainment, but I just don't have the knowledge to do alot of the stuff, especially with sports...

...so, I was wondering, if your not to busy, if you would like to help out with the sports pages on FTBW? I would give you free reign over it to do whatever you want with it, as I'm not in any position to argue about it. About the only thing I could really do is hockey and some sports, and then only a brief overview. I most likely could come up with teams and Leagues, but that is most likely about it.

I know your busy, but any help you could give would be greatly appreciated! Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 14:10, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, SW and I have kinda had a... disagreement recently, but thanks for the advice. I could most likely just make up whatever I want for the South anyway and it should work.

And football teams will work out just fine. I can most likely come up with stuff for baseball and such, it just own't be that good lol.

Also, if you have any ideas for movies, TV shows and such, feel free to add them in as well under their respective articles. Thank you! Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 17:03, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh, yeah... Well, frankly, I just want to have someone other than a George Bush be the stereotypical "Neo-Conservative" president in that time frame, and since Reagan is out (being a Californian and head of a Terrorist Group), so going to move Perot up to another state, like Sequoyah or Cimarron. And, yeah, I think I remember Byrd being a West Virginian; the reason I chose him, mostly becuase I do have a rough idea for "modern" CSA Presidents since about the Unification in 1997 (Ted Turner, Bill Clinton, Stephen Colbert... that sorta thing).

Most of the places and such that you see now in the Presidential articles are just their OTL dates. I might be changing some of them around, maybe re-naming them, I don't know. Its more place holder at the moment than definitive. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 08:59, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

My mistake in Colombian Presidents
I apologize for my mistake when i put the links in the Colombian presidents article. i copy the Christian Democrat link and i put in the place of Mariano Ospina Pérez, and I did not notice it before. :( You, now, remove this and put other name (Carlos Lleras Restrepo) instead. Again, I apologize for this. --Katholico 06:01, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK ^_^ Thanks --Katholico 17:03, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ed Wood (Napoleon's World)
I've started Ed Wood's alternate destiny. Basically the same low-budget tendancies that made Ed Wood the "worst filmaker" OTL instead make him an innovative cinematic genius. He's basically an analogue to George Romero, except potentially not as focused on zombies.

Yank 03:25, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Why did you made OI not IO in "Imperial Officers" at your newest article? Is that's an error or did you do that on purpose? Doctor261 06:52, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Questions
This timeline is great, but I have some questions about it: Enjoy!
 * 1) Why did Napoleon not invade the other remaining countries in Europe? If he was destined to conquer Europe, then why are there still independent European states? Why is the Ottoman part of Europe was not invaded by Napoleon?
 * 2) Why did Napoleon stop invading Russian lands to the east?
 * 3) If the destruction of the Russian Empire encouraged China to expand on their territory, why has it not gained so much?
 * 4) Will China westernize in this timeline?
 * 5) Why does a majority of former British Canada is know a part of Alaska?
 * 6) Does Pan-Americanism occur in this timeline?
 * 7) Why doesn't Napoleon try to conquer Egypt again?
 * 8) What will happen to European colonies of those countries squashed by Napoleon or those of runt states?
 * 9) Will Communism and Socialism occur in this timeline?
 * 10) Does Napoleon have a temptation to control the Mediteranean? If so, why is only Algeria under French rule?
 * 11) Does America have bigger colonial ambitions in this timeline?
 * 12) How did Tibet achieve independence?
 * 13) What happened to India i this timeline?
 * 14) Does many other Asian nations (like Persia, Japan, Korea, all of that stuff) westernize in this timeline?
 * 15) Who leads the world in terms of technology levels?
 * 16) Will the pop culture (you know, rock and roll, Michael Jackson, hip-hop, all of that stuff) develop in this timeline?
 * 17) Will there be any world wars?
 * 18) How many free countries are there? How many countries are not free? (In terms of freedom and democracy)
 * 19) Does the space race occur in this timeline?
 * 20) What will happen to slavery in America?

RandomWriterGuy 17:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re:re:Napoleon Questions
Thank you for your response. Here is mine: Also, I do have more questions, including: Enjoy!
 * 1) For the Ottoman Empire, why can't Napoleon's son attack by sea? It did work in OTL when European fleets won against the Turkish fleets.
 * 2) If Napoleon can't cross into Siberia, then why can't his empire's eastern boundry touch the Urals?
 * 3) This is a very good point as well. I was thinking that China should invade Southern Siberia (areas like Buryatia, Gorno-Altai, all of that stuff) and Kazakhstan.
 * 4) When will China westernize in this timeline? Will there be some expedition from France to the country maybe? I was thinking how China's westernization should go. Maybe something like this timeline.
 * 5) Alright, but after the Candian War, does Alaska get to participate in the treaty? (You know, the treaty that divides Canada for the US and France)
 * 6) If you have not heard of Pan-Americanism, here's the link. By the way, for this, I was thinking for the United States to try to unify the American continents into one, unified, American super state.
 * 7) The reason I stated Egypt was because Napoleon tried to invade this once. I was thinking that if he tried again, he would be more successful. Besides, the Suez Canal was also located here, and France could use Egypt to connect with its Asian colonies.
 * 8) What about colonies from other countries like Netherlands or so on?
 * 9) Alright, but will there be some communist or socialist revolution in Napoleon's empire? (You know, like the failed revolution in Germany)
 * 10) If Napoleon can't completly control all lands on the Mediterranean, can it at least have numerous major sea and military bases in it then?
 * 11) For the Alaskan War, why can't America get help from France to gain that territory or even squash Alaska? And with a longer Mexican War, why doesn't the US take over Mexico?
 * 12) Tibetan independence has little evidence on how it happened. What cause this? Rebellion?
 * 13) How did India split up?
 * 14) How will those Asian countries modernize? Influecne from China or expeditions from France maybe?
 * 15) How come technology is a year of two behind? What happened?
 * 16) Will the Youth Movement and Hippe Movement occur in this timeline?
 * 17) Is it possible there would be a WWIII?
 * 18) Still, is democracy still widespread?
 * 19) When does the space race occur in this timeline and how did it?
 * 20) When will the official end of slavery occur?
 * 1) Will blacks in America be discriminated as it is in OTL, or will they have full rights in this timeline?
 * 2) What is the world's fastest growing religion? Islam or Christianity?
 * 3) How will the Cold War in this timeline occur? Does it have an end date?
 * 4) What about the Caucasus lands? Why doesn't Napoleon invade them as well?
 * 5) How did Greenland came under Alaskan control?
 * 6) Will serdom still exist in Siberia and Alaska?
 * 7) Will oil be discovered in the Middle East as it did in OTL?
 * 8) How long will the Hapsbrug states in Libya and Egypt last?
 * 9) How will nuclear weapons be developed in this timeline?
 * 10) How many of those runt states were Napoleon's allies and what were those?
 * 11) Will there be a United Nations or a League of Nations?
 * 12) What about Switzerland in this timeline? What will it be in the timeline?
 * 13) Will China try to expand its boundries with new estern technologies?
 * 14) How did the US and France become rivals?
 * 15) Will Kurdistan ever exist in this timeline?
 * 16) Is Simon Blovar still a dictator in this timeline?
 * 17) How do those countries in Africa form when you have random African tribes?
 * 18) Will YouTube, MySpace, Twitter, and Facebook appear in this timeline?
 * 19) How did Iceland become independent?
 * 20) If Bengal is British-influence, why is it not its own nation?

RandomWriterGuy 02:17, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

New Pages and TL
What are those new pages, and is this an open timeline?

RandomWriterGuy 23:45, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World New Suggestions
I thought I give you some links for ideas for the timeline:

Link #1

Link #2

Link #3

Link #4

LInk #5

Here they are. Enjoy!

RandomWriterGuy 23:55, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Help?
Hello, I was interested in your Napoleon's World Timeline. I was wondering if you need any help?Enclavehunter 02:53, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

I can help. Which one do you think should be looked at first.Enclavehunter 03:53, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'll look at it.Enclavehunter 04:06, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

For the Pacific War, would you mind if I add new articles, or should I just leave that up to you?Enclavehunter 04:35, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hello. I want to create an Napoleon's world article about the fallout series and I was wondering if it was alright with you?Enclavehunter 04:20, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I'll try the red faction series.Enclavehunter 04:32, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World Talkpage
Have you checked the talk page lately? You seem to have one new message there. RandomWriterGuy 22:35, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

On the football thing you posted on the talk page, do I tell you who I think will win?Enclavehunter 22:45, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

So where do I put my answers?Enclavehunter 22:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Here's who I want to win: Enclavehunter 23:18, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nationalship Champion: Cuba Spaniards
 * Texas Bowl: Alabama Crimson Tide
 * Orange Bowl: Peninsula Raptors
 * Siver Bowl: Washington Huskies
 * Sugar Bowl: Mississippi Falcons
 * Peach Bowl: LSU Tigers
 * Chicago Bowl: Michigan State Spartans
 * Manhattan Bowl: Massachusettes Minutemen
 * Paradise Bowl: San Diego Tritons
 * Citrus Bowl: Nova Scotia

Napoleon's World College Football Pick'em 2011
Games followed by my picks in italics.

National Championship (Rose Bowl): 2 Cuba Spaniards (13-0) vs. 1 Pacifica Orcas (13-0)

Have to choose Pacifica here.

Texas Bowl: (6) Alabama Crimson Tide (11-1) vs. (5) Iowa Hawkeyes (12-1)

''Wife would kill me if I didn't choose her Granddaddy's Tide. Alabama it is.''

Orange Bowl: (17) Peninsula Raptors (10-2) vs. (7) Florida State Seminoles (11-1)

Peninsula, in an Upset.

Silver Bowl: (11) Washington Huskies (10-2) vs. (4) Sequoyah Braves (12-1)

''....And I better choose Sequoyah here for nearly the same reason as the Tide, lol. Though, would have done it anyways, as with the Tide.''

Sugar Bowl: (14) Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen (10-2) vs. (3) Mississippi Falcons (12-1)

Have to say the Flying Dutchmen here, in another upset.

Peach Bowl: (16) Virginia Cavaliers (10-3) vs. (10) LSU Tigers (11-2)

''Virginia. LSU can't have both otl and atl, lol.''

Chicago Bowl: (12) Louisiana Pelicans (10-2) vs. (13) Michigan State Spartans (11-2)

''Louisiana. Not betting against both teams from the state, lol.''

Manhattan Bowl: (20) Notre Dame Fighting Irish (9-3) vs. (8) Massachusetts Minutemen (10-2)

''Notre Dame is overrated. A Win for the Minutemen.''

Paradise Bowl: (9) San Diego Tritons (12-1) vs. (18) Northern Colorado Billy Goats (11-1)

Give this one to San Diego.

Citrus Bowl: (15) Montana State (11-2) vs. (16) Nova Scotia (10-2)

Nova Scotia, since they lost the big one last year.

Tbguy's picks
Alright, well... answer boldified...

National Championship (Rose Bowl): 2 Cuba Spaniards (13-0) vs. 1 Pacifica Orcas (13-0)

Texas Bowl: (6) Alabama Crimson Tide (11-1) vs. (5) Iowa Hawkeyes (12-1)

Orange Bowl: (17) Peninsula Raptors (10-2) vs. (7) Florida State Seminoles (11-1)

Silver Bowl: (11) Washington Huskies (10-2) vs. (4) Sequoyah Braves (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: (14) Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen (10-2) vs. (3) Mississippi Falcons (12-1)

Peach Bowl: (16) Virginia Cavaliers (10-3) vs. (10) LSU Tigers (11-2)

Chicago Bowl: (12) Louisiana Pelicans (10-2) vs. (13) Michigan State Spartans (11-2)

Manhattan Bowl: (20) Notre Dame Fighting Irish (9-3) vs. (8) Massachusetts Minutemen (10-2)

Paradise Bowl: (9) San Diego Tritons (12-1) vs. (18) Northern Colorado Billy Goats (11-1)

Citrus Bowl: (15) Montana State (11-2) vs. (16) Nova Scotia (10-2)

Mister Sheen's picks

 * National Championship: Cuba Spaniards
 * Texas Bowl: Iowa Hawkeyes
 * Orange Bowl: Florida State Seminoles
 * Silver Bowl: Washington Huskies
 * Sugar Bowl: Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen
 * Peach Bowl: Virginia Cavaliers
 * Chicago Bowl: Louisiana Pelicans
 * Manhattan Bowl: Notre Dame Fighting Irish
 * Paradise Bowl: San Diego Tritons
 * Citrus Bowl: Nova Scotia

Las Vegas
Hello,

If its alright with you, can I make an few articles on some cities from the List of largest cities in the United States by population. Enclavehunter 22:11, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Asian Alternate Destinies
While we do have some, we haven't often talked about alternate destinies for Asians much. I brought up some famous people and what they will be in this timeline:

Chian Kai Shek

Sun-Yat Sen

Hideki Tojo

Mohadmas Gandhi

Jackie Chan

Deng Xiaoping

Hirohito

Hu Jintao

King Abdullah

Chulalongkorn

Corazon Aquino

What do you think they should be?

Also for China and Siberia thing, if the Chinese learn about the Russian defeat and the weak exile state of Siberia that recently formed, why can't they take opprutunity and sieze land from them? RandomWriterGuy 05:24, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Gandhi
What if Gandhi was a successful Indian lawyer, and later head of one of the largest law firms in India. In OL he studied law in England, which is one of the many reasons he was successful in getting India independant. -- Yank 22:10, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

bin Laden
Hello,

I think I got an idea for Osama Bin Laden (if nobody took it). I think he can become an multimillionare in the construction buisness and helped participate in the construction of some of Dubai's most famous buildings.Enclavehunter 04:37, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alaskan Recycling
I was thinking that since Alaska began as a poor exile state, it would be plausible that the Alaskans would adopt the principles of recycling early on. It would make sense as money would likely be in short supply in the begining, thus making it necessary to repair or reuse as much of their garbage to help make ends meet. The remainder of the garbage would be used to reclaim new lands from the seabed, a technique that has been used all over the world.

Yank 06:02, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

The concept of "recycling" has been used by humans since the days of Plato. Since mass-production was centuries away when nations like Alaska were established people had to make the things they used last as long as possible. The concept would begin as more of a strictly-followed traditon, rather than a law. I'm guessing that official Alaskan laws on recycling would likely begin around the time of the Pacific War, when needs for war material would necessitate official government legislation on recycling.

Yank 07:07, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

NASCAR drivers
Do you know if anyone wrote about the following OTL NASCAR Drivers:

Jeff Gordon

Jimmie Johnson

Kyle Busch

Dale Earnhart Jr.

Enclavehunter 23:04, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Here's what I was thinking: What do you thinK?Enclavehunter 23:39, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Jeff Gordon could become an owner of an skydiving company in Southern California and he has jumped nearly 1,000 times.
 * Jimmie Johnson could become an Formula 1 driver and was paralyzed in an racing accident.
 * Kyle Busch could be an general in the USAF and had combat operations over some battle.
 * Dale Earnhart Jr. could be an owner of an transnational trucking company, with his trucks delivering stuff to Alaska, the US, and Mexico.

I like the Formula 1 idea. Or, Kyle Bush could be an combat pilot that is reckless and careless with aircraft, but is well-respected among his commanders. Enclavehunter 23:47, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to put these into the Alternate Destinies articles, if you don't mind.Enclavehunter 00:01, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Star Trek
I just recently found a Kirk for the Napoleon's World Star Trek. Jack Lord who was the first choice OTL, but who wanted more ownership over the show than what Roddenberry wanted to give him. It would be ironic if Kirk filled the role of Khan in the movie. I can just imagine Pike going "Kirk!" like the famous "Khaaaaaan!" scream. I would also like if we would use different names for the ships, as I don't like the idea of reusing the name Enterprise so much. --Yank 21:58, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

How's Endevour? Or Defiant, they are all names with value around the same as enterprise. :D Imperium Guy 22:16, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I like Endeavour, that's a good option. Jack Lord could play Kirk, and Jeffrey Hunter could play Pike, like he originally did, and not die in 1969 this time around (the actor, that is). I still like the idea of Kirk starting off as a main protagonist whose story arc eventually makes him a villain.

KingSweden 22:49, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

How about Chris Pine, the actor who played Kirk in the OTL 2009 remake? I have an idea for the story of the remake, and it diverts somewhat from the ATL original series. The original series has Kirk being Pike's protege, and the remake has Kirk and Pike being best friends from childhood. It makes it much more personal when Kirk betrays Pike. --Yank 00:54, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Super 8
Who do you think should play in Super 8, I want to make an small biography on the film section, but I need actors. I was thinking of leave the kids with the same actors in OTL, who do you think should play the two dads in the movies. Enclavehunter 01:17, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Baldwin and Pitt would work. Maybe this movie would be Pitt's big break or something like that.Enclavehunter 01:42, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Who do you think should be the director?Enclavehunter 04:10, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think Michael Bay would be an good one.Enclavehunter 04:18, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

More of Lincoln's Family
I have some more ideas for the alternate destinies of Abe Lincoln's family. What do you think of these ideas?
 * William "Willie" Lincoln (1850-1942): Owner of one of the period's largest newpaper chains. He may be an analogue to Hearst, but perhaps his father's beliefs would influence him to be more honest than Hearst.
 * Thomas "Tad" Lincoln (1853-1938): One of America's finest playwrights. I would have him watch a Booth performance of Our American Cousin (for irony's sake), and be inspired to pursue a career in drama. He would then discover that because of his lisp he is unable to gain work and pursues a career as a playright instead. There's plenty of stuff we can create with it, including articles an these plays and the films they inevitably spawn when the time comes.
 * James Grigsby (1828-1907): Abe's nephew, who died in childbirth OTL. In the spirit of his Uncle he joins the military, but enlists with the navy instead of the army. By the time of the Alaskan War he is an Admiral, and wins one of the most famous naval battles of the war.

Yank 23:10, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

When I chose to have Eddie pursue a medical career it was more because of the fact that wikipedia said that he had a "kind and gentle personality". What's a better career for a "can't hurt a fly"-type than medicine?

Yank 18:39, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have decided to have Willie live and have Tad die. I have started Willie's biography. Can you help me finish it?

Yank 19:38, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Doctor Who
Since we've already covered (or begun covering) Star Wars and Star Trek, I'd like to dicuss a Napoleon's World equivlient of another enduring sci-fi icon. Doctor Who. It's going to be tough to make an analogue of it, especially when you've got 11 Doctors to cast. Would the series be done in England or America? I would think that the Anarchy might encourage it's creation, as people would love a series to distract from their very real problems.

Yank 00:43, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia, the Doctor Who series was first broadcast in 1964. So if the series was started around that time ATL the memory of the Anarchy would be fresh enough to require such a diversion, but not enough to actually affect the broadcast. Yank 00:54, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I have the perfect idea for one of the Doctors. Peter Cushing. In OTL he played an "unofficial" Doctor in a few movies that didn't really fit with the show's canon. It would be nice to see him play a "canon" Doctor.

Yank 18:34, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

College Football Pick'em
I'm sorry very much for answer you TOO late :( Just yesterday, i returned to the wikia.

My opinion who will win:


 * National Championship: Cuba Spaniards (13-0)
 * Texas Bowl: Iowa Hawkeyes (12-1)
 * Orange Bowl: Peninsula Raptors (10-2)
 * Silver Bowl: Washington Huskies (10-2)
 * Sugar Bowl: Mississippi Falcons (12-1)
 * Peach Bowl: Virginia Cavaliers (10-3)
 * Chicago Bowl: Michigan State Spartans (11-2)
 * Manhattan Bowl: Notre Dame Fighting Irish (9-3)
 * Paradise Bowl: Northern Colorado Billy Goats (11-1)
 * Citrus Bowl: Nova Scotia (10-2)

--Katholico 03:43, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

World Football Thingy and Chinese expansion
Sorry for being late. Here's my reply:

National Championship (Rose Bowl): Cuba Spaniards

Texas Bowl: Iowa Hawkeyes

Orange Bowl: Florida State Seminoles

Silver Bowl: Sequoyah Braves

Sugar Bowl: Mississippi Falcons

Peach Bowl: LSU Tigers

Chicago Bowl: Michigan State Spartans

Manhattan Bowl: Massachusetts Minutemen

Paradise Bowl: San Diego Tritons

Citrus Bowl: Montana State

Also, I am very confused of the Chinese expansions in Napoleon's World. In the History section of Alaska, it stated that China seized a chunk of land, but I can not find it anywhere on the world map. Is there an explanation to this?

RandomWriterGuy 03:50, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hello? Are you still thinking about the Chinese topic? RandomWriterGuy 00:21, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Think Before You Act
My new timeline Think Before You Act is based on your Napoleon's World timeline. Do you like the concept, and can you contribute to it? RandomWriterGuy 06:08, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I will do it. BTW, Welcome back Enclavehunter 22:17, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, do you need the casinos and the description or just the casinos? Enclavehunter 22:19, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

War of 1812 (Think Before You Act)
For the War of 1812 in this timeline, t will occur just as it did in OTL. However, it will be different. First of all, the war is much shorter due to the French gaining more victories in Spain, forcing the British to put more support in SPain, at the cost of Canada. Because it needed to defend itself in Europe, it quickly surrenders to the Americans by giving it its possessions in the Americas (except for Quebec which is given to France along with British possessions in the Lesser Antilles).

What do you think of it ? (events can be found in the timeline page of the TL)

RandomWriterGuy 07:36, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Idea
Hey.

I have an idea for an article for your TL, called the Black Friday Riots. It started off late Thanksgiving night in Los Angeles, California in 1994. It turned violent when two security guards asked two hispanic teenagers to leave, due to public interruption. The teens refuse to leave, so the security guards grab them The two guards forcefully take them out of the line, which is were the violence begins. The one complies, but the other one's actions results in his beating. This soon leads to racial riots across Los Angeles, Tijuana, and San Diego, and the California National Guard to be called in. Just as an precaution: No racism intended. Enclavehunter 07:44, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that was an summary of where it was going. What I was thinking is that the security guards try to escort the teneagers out, but they resist when they reach the cop car. After tensions, the police finally had enough and beat him to the ground, where he is arrested later. So after the beating that was caught by an pedestrian and placed online, it ignites as small-scale break ins and numerous other incidents occur. This leads to riot controls, which results in more beatings, which leads to murders, hit-runs, and large-scale looting. This leads to the California National Guard to be called in. What do you think? Enclavehunter 03:23, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I got an question: When you started Napoleon's World, how did you go about making it. Did you start with what the TL said, or did you just create articles as you go. Enclavehunter 23:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW Sports
Heya KingSweden! It has been a while since we last chatted, but I hope you are doing good. Napoleon's World, by the way, is doing great!

Anyway, I have decided to begin working on some of the Media and Entertainment for French Trafalgar, British Waterloo. I'm a bit hesitant to do much about the Sports, mostly because I'm not exactly a sports person. I have taken a stab at hockey (as I'm Canadian, and have a LOT of opportunity to learn about it, hehe), and I think I can do baseball, but with the other sports I'm not so good with.

So, I'm wondering if you would like to help me a bit with that? I've already created some Leagues and such based on American Football (known as "Gridiron" in my world because soccer is the "actual" football), basketball and other such sports, but haven't even created the articles for them yet.

And, as another question, do you happen to know anyone around here who could do some Photoshoping to create some logos for these leagues and teams? I think I would like to try to use real-world teams as much as possible, though I might switch the sports and the cities and such, but I suck at Photoshop, so finding out someone much better than myself would be great!

In return for your help here, I would be glad to help you with some things on Napoleon's World as well, maybe actually create a Titanesque article, as well as other things. Just most likely nothing to do with sports, hehe.

Anyway, hope to hear from you soon! Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 04:12, January 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much! I would especially be lost on the Gridiron, and the article would have pretty much made no sense anyway...


 * As for the CSA, I would say that sports wise it would be similar to the US, though most sports, especially gridiron, would have slightly different rules (like the difference between Canadian and American football). However, a strong British influence would also have an effect, maybe making Rugby and football more popular in the South than in the North? This would still be evident even after the CSA was divided in half, then later reformed in 1997, though American (North CS, and later the reformed Confederacy), and later Brazilian/French influence will still be strong in the Gulf Coast states (the South CS).


 * Most of the Leagues I've already created for the US, Assiniboia, CSA, Alyseka and Quebec are "North American" or "American" leagues, due to the fact that it isn't mostly just American teams, but almost a balance of all the different nations.


 * I can help you with any background information you may need, just let me know. However, I want to give you a lot of free-reign over this, as I really am not sure exactly what to do with a large part of it. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 21:50, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Samuel Mudd (Napoleon's World)
I have an idea for another Lincoln-related Alternate destiny. Samuel Mudd, the doctor who aided Booth, is selected to be the second surgeon general. I would think it ironic if Mudd would befriend Booth after he is injured in a performance made in his hometown. Extra irony points if the play being performed is "Our American Cousin", or a play by Willie Lincoln.

Yank 19:26, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

More Alternate Destinies suggestions.
Hey, I have more alternate destinies suggestion, and wanted to see if you liked them:
 * Shia LaBeouf: An Sergeant in the US Army, who recieved the medal of honor for saving the President of the US, after they were ambushed in the Philipines. (Do you know about any modern conflicts in your TL.)
 * Antonio Villaraigosa (I think that how you spell it.) OTL Mayor of Los Angeles, candidate for the democratic part of the 2012 presidental elections
 * James Patterson: OTL Writer and Arthur, write crime books. In Napoleon's World, I think he could be an well-known detective for the New York Police Department. Enclavehunter 22:34, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Alternate Destines Politcal/Business/Economic Figures
I think there are more Alternate Destines that relate to the film, media, and sport culture. Do you think we should do Alternate Destines for political, business, and economic figures? RandomWriterGuy 00:42, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Here is what I am thinking of: That's who I can think of for now.
 * Bill Gates
 * Steve Jobs
 * Steve Wozniak (Apple's co-founder)
 * Warren Buffet
 * Larry Elison
 * Bernald Arnault
 * Peter Voser
 * Meg Whitman

Also, check this out ! What do you think of it?

RandomWriterGuy 23:43, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

English Anarachy
While I do like the article, I'm confused on on ething: why would US want to help stabalize England? Wouldn't they just have tooken the chance and take away land from it? RandomWriterGuy 05:03, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well, if US, Scotland, and Ireland all have similar enemies, why can't the US help Ireland when they landed in Wales? RandomWriterGuy 05:45, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

I just recently got an idea: maybe Ireland can be an ATL Version of Serbia. In OTL, Serbia wanted to unite all of the Slavic peoples into one country. Maybe Ireland would want to unite the Celtic peoples in this timeline. What do you think? RandomWriterGuy 22:48, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Not just Scotland, but Wales, and Britanny. They can get Britanny by helping Edward in the civil war and be able to buy it as a reward. RandomWriterGuy 00:00, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I kind of meant Sebastien for the civil war thingy. Sorry about that.

About the Scotland thing, since a page for it is not there, I don't really know much about it in this timeline. Maybe Scotland and Ireland can establish an alliance together and with France after the Napoleonic Wars. Maybe their relationship is so close, they would unify to form a strong, pro-Celtic state.

Maybe the Britanny thingy is too ASB, even if it does have a major Celtic population.

For the Irish Wars, maybe because of the country's larger size, they may be able to have a greater chance of victory against England and get Wales.

Now you don't have to accept it. It's JUST an idea. :) RandomWriterGuy 01:36, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Korea
If you don't mind, may I create an few articles for Korean politicans and economic figures. Also, may I make one for the Hyundai Corporation, I think Mr. Hyundai would still make the company. Enclavehunter 08:38, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Chile (NW)
Hi KingSw!!! How are you? I write to you for talk about that in 1960 was the Valdivia earthquake (9.6 grade), so, maybe should be including in the events that eventually lead to the communist revolution in the country. Thanks. Regards! --Katholico 22:33, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good :) The effects (tsunami reaching to Hawaii and Japan) maybe also can be mentioned in other articles. By the way, when you expand Chile and other South American nations (put the presidents or something else) if need help, just let me know.
 * I forgot sign before XD
 * I have a question; when Chile and the other latin american nations became independent? As OTL? Regards! --Katholico 23:38, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can help you making the list of presidents of Chile? Regards! --Katholico 03:36, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

"Del Negros" surname
Hi again! I hope don't disturb you, but i noticed that you put here that a candidate is named Mariano del Negros, but this surname (del Negros), i'm unsure that exist, so, maybe you could change it? I mean, i suggested that. Again, I hope don't disturb you. Regards! --Katholico 01:58, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

OK, i'm glad in help you. :) Regards --Katholico 02:33, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

YouTube Alternate Destines
I didn't think we ever done an alternate destiny for NW for YouTUbe celebrities. Do you think we should do some? RandomWriterGuy 21:09, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Issaquah-Snoqualmie
I've read the article you did and I have to say for a small town article it's pretty godamn good. I'm trying to help shorten the proposal list and I'm just wondering do you have plans on finishing it? Get back to me when you can. Arstar 03:10, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami in NW
I propose I make a page for Napoleon's World about the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami (since EnclaveHunter and Katholico have contributed to your timeline and I wanted to join in). I propose for this event that the earthquake and the events that happened during the quake will be the same as it did in OTL, however, the aftermath will be quite different. The Oceanian and Thai countries would be the hardest hit with the most damage. Many countries in the region (and countries who own territories in the region) and others would send aid to help clean up the debris of the mess. However, in some areas, aid may be slow, causing some discontent against the Thai and Oceanian governments, leading to small uprisings that were often quickly extinguished.

So what do you think?

RandomWriterGuy 23:14, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Can I make the page for it? RandomWriterGuy 22:34, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Other Ideas #1
Hey KingSweden. I just had an thought, what about Chernobyl and the Three Miles Nuclear Power Plant accidents. I was thinking about that an nuclear accident in Chernobyl (I was thinking something French to replace it) and the Three Miles Island nuclear accidents could occur in OTL. Also, can I create articles for the Indianapolis 500 and Daytona Cup. Enclavehunter 01:07, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

That's an good idea. I was also think for Three Miles Island, would cause Harrisburg to be abandoned, similiar how Pripyat is to Chernobyl in OTL. Enclavehunter 02:42, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well, since were on nuclear diasters. May I suggest an organization called the INMA (International Nuclear Managament Agency), which is an organization that is runned by the superpowers, and is responsible for inspection of nuclear plants and nuclear missiles. There also responsible for the decontamination and health issues caused by nuclear diasters, such as Three Mile Island or Chernoville. Also, do you have any suggestions for 1960's race car drivers that I can put into the Daytona 500 article? Enclavehunter 07:13, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Few more questions? What happens to aircraft companies, such as Lockheed Martin, Sirorsky, and Boeing. I'd assume Boeing is the same as it is in OTL, due to the fact that the F-18 is mentioned in one of your articles. Also, what becomes of Hyundai, Toyota, General Motors, Bentley, ect. Also, may I, sorry to ask again, make an article for Super 8, seeing how there's dozens of movie artciles.

Oh yeah, congrautlations on passing 853 pages, last time I check. Keep up the good work. Enclavehunter 05:10, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Tibetan Independence
I think one of the biggest issues in the NW Timeline is the lack of explanation for Tibetanese independence. I decide to think of one for you.

During the Chinese Civil War, the Tibetans used this as an opprutunity to gain independence. Because Chinese authority there is low and the forces anre busy fighting each other, Tibet gains independence with no bloodshed.

How does that sound? RandomWriterGuy 00:13, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then. However, there's something I will have to point out.

In OTL, after Tibet got independence and when China became Communist, the Chinese successfully invaded and annexed the country. For their perspective, I believe one thing:

China will do anything to make sure Tibet is still and always part of China. So it's most likely that China will get Tibet back somehow. RandomWriterGuy 03:21, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I think maybe it would be most likely for China to invade the 1910's and may get it back, which would become a cause for the Pacific War. RandomWriterGuy 05:49, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Other Ideas #2
Hey KingSweden. What becomes of these diasters from OTL in your TL?:
 * Deepwater Horizion Explosion
 * Exxon Valdez Oil Spill
 * 1908 San Francisco Earthquake
 * California and Arizona Wildfires (most of which were caused intentionally)
 * Fort Hood Shootings
 * 2010 Haiti Earthquake
 * 2011 Japanase Earthquake and Tsunami
 * The Kursk Submarine Diaster
 * World Series Earthquake (Northridge) Enclavehunter 05:58, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, KingSweden


You are the winner of the 2012 Stirling Award for Best Male Writer. Congrats, and may next year's awards treat you just as kindly! Lordganon 08:41, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

It's still up, and will always be so. Here's a link. Lordganon 09:06, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Alaskan War
I was wondering about the Alaskan War that why America can not ask it for help against Alaska? Just asking. RandomWriterGuy 23:23, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

May I make an article for the Detroit Lions (favorite football team outside of Calfornia). Also, what do you think about the idea for the USS George Wallace, the replacement for OTL USS George H.W Bush. Both of them are aircraft carriers. Enclavehunter 01:43, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. How should we go from here on the Pacific War. Enclavehunter 01:55, January 31, 2012 (UTC) Okay. I suggest moving away from North America, respectively, and make an attempt to make some skirmishes in South America, maybe like the Japanese fleet engages the Colombian fleet off the Galapagos, and may be an bombing raid against Darwin down in Oceania. Enclavehunter 05:12, January 31, 2012 (UTC)