User blog comment:Daxus Inferno/Real Countries?/@comment-2159942-20130331175357/@comment-32656-20130402112949

AP, that voting aspect was never really a part of things - that such a thing was required or needed isn't true.

The two organizations that turned down the UN plan were the Arab League, and Arab Higher Committee for Palestine (which was far more Arab than Palestinian) - in effect, the other Arab states, not the Palestinians themselves.

The Isrealis, as was their right under the internationally approved UN vote, declared independence. Not their fault the Arab states refused this, invaded, and got trounced.

The Arab states actually ended up holding most of the so-called "Muslim" areas of Palestine anyways - not that they did anything other than annex it. They then refused to recognize the Palestinians as citizens - something they still refuse today to do with the descendants of the original refugees, who in many cases have been in these Arab states for three generations.

Israel is in no way illegitimate. Same goes for the Palestinian side of the coin.

Pita is very right, overall.

Tibet does not have autonomy. The PRC government may claim it, but that does not make it true.