Talk:Olympic Games (Principia Moderni III Map Game)

Proposals
Proposals MUST be proposed eight (8) years before they take place to ensure proper voting time and preparation.

1896

 * Madrid, Spain - Madrid is the capital of the newly formed United Kingdom of Spain. Spain is a really cool country with lots of stuff and we're currently riding a high of doing everything well. This would be light work. Madrid is also a very central rail hub and Spain is loaded. Cool country cool people cool games.
 * Augsburg, Bavaria - Augsburg is the capital of the one of the most prosperous, wealthiest, and diverse regions in Europe. It is the capital of Bavaro-Germany and hosts the Diet and Chancellor's residence. Since mid-century, several projects and initiatives have been launched to modernize the city. Because of these initiatives, Augsburg has become a clean, healthy capital, and is a shining beacon for engineering and public work. The city is a prime location for the 1896 Olympics and will bring opportunity and wealth to the whole country.
 * Cuzco, Cuzco, Cuzco, Andea - The City of Cuzco, in the County of Cuzco, in the state of Cuzco, in the Peru Reigon of Andea is the largest city in the new world with a population of 1.6 million people. It is the most developed City in Hesperia and easily fit the athletes and spectators for the games. It is the wealthiest area in Andea, if not the entirty of Hesperia.

1900

 * New Munich, Flaschland, Union of Borealia: One of the most industrialized cities on the continent of Borealia, and showcaseing a variety of new technologies such as electrical power and kinetiscopes. Situated near the Snake River at the base of the Rocky Mountains, this city has access to a number of different climates and scenary. It holds the historic significance of housing the original New Munich Declaration, the single document which has forged unity and independence across all of the New World. This city is also the focal point of the first transcontinental railroad, which spans from San Francisco to Patropolis.
 * St. Patricksburg, Russian People's Socialist Republic: The core port and cultural capital of the Russian Peoples Socialist Repulic. It holds historic signifigance to Russia and most of Eastern Europe, and was one of the first cities to be liberated by the peoples popular revolution. This city is a perfect location for the celebration of the new century and the third installment of the olympic games.


 * Hamburg, Commonwealth Kingdom of Hamburg, United Germany: a deeply historical city, Hamburg has stood on the Elbe River for nearly 1100 years since its foundation by Charlemagne in 808. Today, the city of Hamburg is one of the largest cities in Europe, and possibly the largest port in Northern Europe. Heavily industrialized, Hamburg blast plenty of space to house international athletes, their teams, and suitable places to build sports arenas and centers. Hamburg is also directly linked to the future main line of the trans-European railroad, allowing for easy arrivals.


 * ​ Because this will allow for the same country to host for 2 games in a row (in the event Hamburg won) It has been decided to take Hamburg out of the Running for the 1900 Games.
 * Madrid, Spain - Spain will be even cooler then. Madrid is a big important city. All railways go to Madrid. Spain was the first nation to put forth the trans-European railway. Spain is a big patron of the arts, culture, and athleticism and all that stuff. We have boats and guns and our Prime Minister is Juan Scrawlando. The old Spain might not have been very popular but the new Spain is absolutely bitchin and doesn't want to rule the whole world. Madrid has lots of great architecture and what not for you to see and we could build stadia literally anywhere because we're loaded.

1904

 * Madrid, Spain - Not communist. Take the train to Spain.

1908

 * Cuzco, Cuzco, Cuzco, Andea: Andea would like to once again put her golden City into the running for the olympics. Cuzco will undergo major development projects in the coming years and should be adequetly sized for the olympic games. Cuzco is a modern, sanitary city and would gladly host the games.

1912

 * Pskov, Pskov Republic, Grand Union of Finns, Balts, and Slavs: The Great city of Pskov traces its origins to the humble hamlet of Pleskov, founded on the Velikaya river in 862. It quickly grew into a large regional center, and first became the seat of a Russian Prince, Sudislav, in 1035. The city's history was forged in commerce and war, its system of government based around the Veche, one of the oldest modern democratic systems in europe. The nation was absorbed into novgorod in 1230, but quickly gained de-facto independance after the battle of Rakvere under Prince Dovmont in 1268, and was finaly recognized as a nation in 1348 under the treaty of Bolotovo. At this point it was already a large center of trade in europe, and became a member of the hanseatic league. It became a great center of crafts, architecture, and art in eastern europe. It grew as a city, and culturally aswell, becoming the location of Eastern Europe's first true university and scientific society. The city only grew after that moment, withstanding wave after wave of invasion. After a great fire in the mid-16th century, it was rebuilt under the careful eye of Pskovian architects into the five-walled stone city we know today, becoming the first of tis kind in Russia, and soon afterwards its largest city, repulsing an invasion force of Russia, Poland, and Prussia thanks to the tactical genius of Prince Dimitri the Defender. At the heart lies the Pskov Krom, the center of power in the whole Grand Union, housing the official residence of the Supreme Prince and the meeting place of the Grand Senate's two chambers, the General Assembly, and the Council of Nations. Actin as the seat of the Russian Orthodox Church since the 18th century, the planned location of the Olympic Games offers a stunning view of Lake Pskov, into whcih the Velikaya River flows. The city will celebrate its 1050th anniversary in 1912, the olympic games will only increase the jubial atmosphere of festivities in the city, and help the world prosper in this show of international co-operation.
 * Split, Ban Republic of Croatia: Founded as a Greek colony of a Greek colony of a Greek colony of Corinth, conquered by Romans and home to the palace of the Emperor Diocletian, the city combines Greek history (similarly to the Olympics), Roman architecture and history (similarly to the founders of the modern Olympic Games) and Croatian lands (exactly the same as the 1912 Olympic Games host nation). Although the Roman Empire still survives and also controls Rome once more, it is time the world is introduced to historical lands and buildings of the Roman Empire. By exploring Diocletian's Palace, the visitors of the Olympic Games will be able to indulge themselves in 4th century Roman architecture, and get to know more about the first Emperor who retired voluntarily. The sportsmen and respected guests and visitors can explore the beauty of the Croatian nature, the fresh, clean and delicious food and water as well as the mild climate that will ensure a clear sky during the games, will not being too hot to enjoy the pleasantries. The festivities will be numerous, and help connect the world in a way it has never been connected before. Vote for Split, vote for joy!

Voting
Obviously, don't vote until all candidates are in.

Cuzco

 * "This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 22:52, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * #PraiseRoosevelt. 23:04, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nathan1123 (talk) 23:04, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Shikata ga nai! 00:23, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Augsburg

 * RPSR Toby2: THEY CALL ME Mr. Awesome!!! 22:53, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cookiedamage (talk) 22:55, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I am that guy (talk)
 * Willster22 (User talk:Willster22)
 * Fritzmet (talk) 23:39, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yank 00:27, June 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * 02:35, June 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * SkyGreen24 17:37, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * SkyGreen24 17:37, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

New Munich

 * #PraiseRoosevelt. 18:33, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nathan1123 (talk) 21:46, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag.png 22:47, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * "This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 00:17, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Shikata ga nai! 00:23, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * #Madrid1900
 * SkyGreen24 17:38, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

St. Patricksburg

 * Fritzmet (talk) 18:51, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Toby2: THEY CALL ME Mr. Awesome!!!
 * Willster22 (User talk:Willster22)
 * Graham Industries. Creating the future, today. (talk) 00:19, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yank 00:21, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Madrid

 * Cookiedamage (talk) 00:30, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * g greg e  (talk)  00:43, June 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * 02:49, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Round 2
There shouldn't be any round two. I already declared the winner and Rimp was late to the vote, it's as simple as that.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 01:11, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

OK then never mind.

01:22, June 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * New Munich
 * Cookiedamage (talk) 00:12, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag.png 01:50, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * St. Patricksburg
 * Fritzmet (talk) 23:56, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yank 00:05, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yank 00:05, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Madrid

 * I was Normandy in PM2. It was great. (talk) 19:12, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

RNG Idea
Since the way medals will be awarded will be by RNG, I had an idea of how to sway the RNG so the medals awarded is somewhat realistic.

The host nation of an olympiad typically does very well in terms of medals, while other powerful nations like the United States tend to do well regardless of where they are. As such, I created different levels from where the numbers would be randomly selected from. I suspect the main issue may well be the number of medals within each level rather than the concept itself, however I do welcome feedback regarding the concept and implimentation.
 * Host: 25-75
 * Powerful/Wealthy Nation: 20-60
 * Well off Nation: 15-19
 * Moderate Nation: 7-14
 * Small Nation: 3-6
 * Tiny/Poor Nation: 0-2

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 03:31, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

What category does India fall in? In any case, RNG seems like a good way to do it but I'd like to add in that talent maintains a key role in Olympiad and the 'tier' of a nation should not significantly affect the medals won. For example, in the 2014 Sochi Olympics, Norway won 26 medals whereas France won 15 medals. Hence, it would be incorrect to obtain medals solely based off the 'Tier' which one nation belongs to. Perhaps, add something to it to make up for the tiers.

Perhaps I am just overreacting in regards to the PM3 Olympics. ♣There is no good or evil: only power and those too weak to seek it♣  15:51, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

True, although in that case that's because Sochi was a winter olympiad, where Norway obviously has better talent compared to France. I suppose we can make the tiers a combination of both talent regarding the sports and power as an actual country.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 16:08, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Request Admittance
The Grand Union of Finns, Balts and Slavs (Pskov, Eesti, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarussia)  requests the right to join either as a single unit, or as each constituent republic. Being able to send seperate teams for each republic (i.e. competing seperately), but having a single collective vote in the comittee is also acceptable.-Lx (leave me a message) 02:42, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

One nation, one vote, one team.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 16:08, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Why is Silesia not eligible to participate? 18:25, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Because you're small, just got out of a war, and as in OTL the games are not that interesting right now and need to grow before the entire world can join. Wait a game or two and then you should be good.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 22:42, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Algonquia requests admittance, given that both of its neighbours participated in the last games, and its reasonable to expect that they would be fairly well known and somewhat popular. Shikata ga nai! 21:20, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

The United Nordic Unions are down to party Crim de la Crème 17:57, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

The commonwealth of Emeraldie would like to request attendence as a participating team in the 1896 Olymics and all events onwards. Dreamcaster1 (talk) 19:35, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Russia requests admittance  for all games after 1896 Toby2: THEY CALL ME Mr. Awesome!!!

The Kingdom of Morocco requests admittance for all games after 1896.

The Empire of Japan request admittance for all games after 1896, starting with the 1900 Olympic games. KawaiiKame (talk) 02:26, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

The Empire of Lanka requests admittance to all games after 1896, starting with the 1900 Olympic Games. NicDonalds, Editor Talk  04:02, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Ruthenia requests admittance to all games beginning with 1900. Yank 01:41, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

About New Munich
Not sure how many people considered this, but since the Olympics are being held in New Munich that means almost no one should go. The 1904 Olympics were held in St. Louis, an area far closer to Europe than New Munich, and only a handful of athletes outside North America attended. For example France's participation in the Olympics between St. Louis and the previous games dropped by 689 percent. Except for nations in North America, the European nations should probably send a few athletes each, meaning Borealia will win some two hundred medals by default. If anyone is curious this is primarily why I voted against New Munich. Fritzmet (talk) 17:42, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

And before someone says it, no the game should not be in both cities now that they have tied. Fritzmet (talk) 17:43, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

That's a good point actually. I think it would be wise for the participation to roughly follow that of the 1904 games Callumthered (talk) 02:05, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Exactly my thoughts. Borealia will probably send a few hundred athletes, nations in the Americas will send a few dozen, and the European nations will probably send less than a dozen at most. Fritzmet (talk) 02:20, June 14, 2015 (UTC)