Alternative History:Featured alternate history

Nominations for Featured Alternate Histories are the proper way of nominating the best alternate histories that we have here at the Alternate History Wiki. These alternate histories must meet the following criteria:
 * Well-written: the prose of the alternate history is engaging, even brilliant, and of a professional standard;
 * Comprehensive: the alternate history neglects no major facts or details and places the subject in context; more then one article is used to convey the alternate history
 * Plausible: the POD and the altered events following the POD are logically what would happen if history was changed
 * Neutral: the alternate history does its best to give an objective view of the altered history without being overly influenced by politics, religion, nationalism, etc.; it is not a "wankfest"
 * Peaceful collaboration: the alternate history is not subject to ongoing edit wars.
 * Portal Page: the alternate history has a portal page that summarizes the work and prepares the reader for the detail in the connected articles;
 * Appropriate structure: the majority of articles in the alternate history have a system of hierarchical section headings, a substantial but not overwhelming table of contents and a lead section to describe the article
 * External sources: the alternate history provides OTL sources to support the events after the POD either on the portal page or a separate article
 * Supplements: the alternate history makes use of pictures, flags, maps, tables, videos, etc.

ANYONE can nominate a timeline (even its creator). You may nominate an article by yourself, or with other users. You will need to sign the nomination, so a confirmation can be completed. IMPORTANT: only registered users with 100 or more edits will be allowed to vote in the featured TL nominations.

If an alternate history receives a nomination, the  template will be placed on the portal page until a decision is reached.

If an alternate history becomes a featured timeline, the  template will be placed on the portal page and the alternate history will be added to the list. The nomination discussion will be moved to the archive.

Nomination Process

 * 1) First chose an alternate history, and explain why the alternate history would be a good candidate. Also, you can explain what needs to be improved on the article.
 * 2) Add the  template to the article.
 * 3) The alternate history should be adjusted if anyone opposes it.
 * 4) The alternate history will be added to the list if there is no more opposition and at least three (3) editors (other then the nominator) support its nomination.
 * 5) A timeline will be marked as featured over any objectors if there are 3 supporters plus a supporter for every objector.
 * 6) If a nomination is not passed or defeated within two weeks, it will be automatically withdrawn.

Sample Nomination
Please copy and past this format for your own nomination. ===Portal Page of alternate history===

*Supporters

*Objectors

*Discussion

Note: Please put new nominations at the bottom of the page.

Day of Glory
Was featured once before. Mitro 17:10, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters
 * Louisiannan 20:20, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * --Karsten vK (talk) 19:33, May 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors
 * Personally I don't really like it.Babylonanian Siberia 20:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * As the creator of that timeline, it would be helpful to me if you could say what it is that you don't you don't like about it. --Marcpasquin 23:38, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Emperorjames 22:02, June 20, 2010 (GMT/UTC)
 * Discussion

Chinese Meiji
Was featured once before. Mitro 14:55, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters
 * --Karsten vK (talk) 19:33, May 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors
 * Ecthelion83 18:14, April 6, 2010 (UTC/GMT) - my issues are 1) I think the point of divergence is too late (i.e. the Qing dynasty was already in great turmoil at least several decades prior to the noted point of divergence, to include the White Lotus Rebellion, which was an open revolt against the dynasty) - this would have had the notable effect of galvanizing anyone not sympathetic to the rebellion in favor of conservatism, not modernization, 2) Japan does not really modernize until after 1870 in real history, and thus, despite technically being an "empire," it does not expand or start growing until its modernization (this is implied to have begun in 1861 in the timeline by the topplers of the Tokugawa Shogunate), 3) the factors leading to the fall of the Tokugawa Shogunate are so far from accurate as to be ludicrous (for one thing, the daimyos said to have rebelled in the timeline were noted to be staunch conservatives in real life; in fact, they were among the ones who, having met with defeat at the hands of the Imperial armies, led the Satsuma Rebellion against modernization; in addition, the daimyos even in the late Tokugawa era were certainly not capable of ending the Shogunate, which in real life was achieved only through the actions of the Meiji Emperor - notably, both were in favor of modernization and thus would not have closed Japan to European influence after 1850), 4) Korea (Choseon/Joseon), while a tributary state of the Qing, would never have become a Chinese protectorate per se (nor would the Chinese ever have considered to make it so - successive Chinese dynasties were very much content, no matter how expansionist, to leave the China-Korea relationship as suzerain-tributary with little practical or even legal impact on Korean relations, except when Korea could be used as a buffer against foreign threats vis a vis Japan), as China never considered Korea at all "Chinese" - in addition, Japanese expansionist tendencies would have inevitably led to war with China regarding influence over Korea (if Korea is, in alternate history, unable to overcome the weaknesses of individual kings and factional in-fighting at court by 1860; if Korea does overcome this before then, it is actually more likely that it would have exercised more independence of China in the event of a Qing collapse, possibly countering or even overcoming Japanese influences/tendencies since Korea would have had time to modernize effectively before Japan instead of the other way around, as it happened in actual history), and lastly, 5) the northern Korean boundary with China was constantly in factual dispute (since before they became the Qing, the Manchurian tribes were frequently at war with Korea, even before the Choseon dynasty, and incursions by the Manchurians south of the Tumen/Yalu and by the Koreans north of those rivers were common); despite this border having been negotiated (with some discrepancies) in 1712, the Qing did not allow settlement or migration into Manchuria proper until the 1870s and the first Chinese to enter there already found Koreans occupying some of the territories they had been told to settle, which led to continued inconclusive negotiations into the 1880s - due to an ambiguity in naming some of the boundaries (Chinese characters were used in the official treaties, but the word "Tumen" is not Chinese and several different Chinese character versions were used to transliterate the name), those Koreans in the disputed territory claimed that they were in Korean territory (which developed into official Choseon policy in the 1880s), but after 1905, due to Japanese interference, these policies and claims could no longer be pursued or negotiated until 1945, but the occupation of Korea in halves prevented a united claim and thus prevented any real negotiation (though one was concluded between North Korea and China in 1962 recognizing the current borders). In an alternate history, all of this may have been turned on its head. - My primary objections would be 1) it's not comprehensive, and 2) it's not very plausible, for the major reasons I've pointed out in boldface.
 * Discussion
 * Wow you really point out some good reasons. Babylonanian Siberia 20:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Ready for the Mother Country
Featured once before. Mitro 16:51, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters
 * Bill Potter 1:40, March 9, 2010 (EST)
 * I admit that this timeline is well put together, so it has my vote. Tbguy1992 04:42, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors
 * Just don't like it. VENEZUELA 00:33, March 28, 2010 (UTC).
 * Discussion
 * Is there a reason why you don't like the TL Ven? Mitro 22:10, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I decided I wouldn't vote on this one. Eastward Expansion 19:43, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Kornilovshina
Was featured once before. Mitro 13:00, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters
 * yougo1000: I really liked the POD it was very good.
 * Objectors
 * Emperorjames 16:55, May 12, 2010 (GMT/UTC)
 * While the idea is intriguing, and the story is already roughed out, it needs more improvement before I would vote for it. Tbguy1992 04:59, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion

Civil War on Third Reich
It's very imaginative and includes some additional info, (maps, photos, etc.). User:Unregistered contributor 195.77.128.223 19:47, April 5, 2010


 * Supporters
 * The pictures are impressive, the history is long and complicated, and the idea is good.I like it a lot. I'm willing to vote for it. Defender of the Fang 13:55, April 9, 2010 (UTC) PS. Anyone want to help with my althist, Defenders of the Fang?
 * One of the more original althists of WW2, good geography and realistic political possibilities. I'm always sold with good images, maps and flags! Would like to see some more effects beyond the 1950's. P.S., Fang, you have quite the imagination! Looks like an interesting novel in the making. - Biker Empire, June 17, 2010 (Invalid vote, must be a registered user with 100 edits to vote -Mitro)
 * Objectors
 * Too short. Currently its only one page. TL needs to be expanded before it can be marked as a featured TL. Mitro 18:47, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anything that is only one article should never become a featured history. All these unregistered contributors are really annoying!!! Eastward Expansion 20:08, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Far too short to even merit nomination here. Whilst quality should always be emphasized, as this TL does, quantity should still not be overlooked entirely. Red VS Blue 20:44, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Discussion

An Independent in 2000
It's a very well thought out and written, their is a lot of good work going into making it. Ownerzmcown
 * Supporters
 * Riley.Konner 16:27, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes and yes. Fegaxeyl 16:00, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't believe this isn't already a Featured TL! Eastward Expansion 20:18, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply an amazing Timeline. Mitro, maybe it is a little less plausible than some, but it explains it very well. This is the Utopian World that I wish was our own. Sigh. French Victory 20:21, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors
 * I have to object. I find it very implausible that a different president in 2000 would lead to the US covering the entire continent of North America and building colonies on the moon. -Mitro
 * Despite the fact i like the timeline it's just to implausible for it to become a featured TLVegas adict 21:36, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree mostly with the above, although I have a more personal dislike towards it as it is one of those "What if...(US President)" ATLs. Especially though, its just far too implausible, and I'm usually really lenient on plausibility lol Red VS Blue 21:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Too unlikely for my taste. I listed some of my objections on the EU talk page. --Karsten vK (talk) 19:27, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the human and technologicla detail is great and creative, but the underlying hate towrards conservatives (see difeerences fom OTL) is too evident to make for an even-handed story. Leave Rick Warren alone and focus on the jets! - Biker Empire, June 17, 2010 (Invalid vote, must be a registered user with 100 edits to vote -Mitro)
 * While impressive in the depth and breadth, it just seems to implausible that a man, appearing out of no where, winning the presidency, uniting all of North America under the US, then redrawing the lines of the states, and then disappear again as if he never existed, plus the sudden advancement in technology to something along the lines of, say 2030, in eight years? It would take that long for both Canada and the US to agree to think about hosting a conference to plan a meeting to discuss a summit to propose an idea to consider the possibility of putting together a treaty to lay the ground work to design a program to even start trying to join them together. It would take years of planning, as well as measured steps to integrate the nations. And would a bill to divide up the United States in larger states, creating new ones, destroying or expanding old ones even make it to committee to propose? No congressman or Senator who would want to keep his seat in the next election would dare propose such a law, even if the president is of the same part and wants it. The US too divided on such measures as Health Care reform and Banking reform, which almost every other nation on earth has to do anything so drastic or monumental in this current situation. But then again, this is fiction, right? I do not support it becoming the face of the AltHist Wikia. Tbguy1992 05:16, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think you read the timeline thoroughly enough. He doesn't appear out of the nowhere as you claim it mentions he is notable across the U.S., he also doesn't disappear it still mentions him as the TL goes on further and further. He doesn't achieve the technology over the span of eight years but works to achieve it in the span of 20 years. It doesn't go into Senators or Congressman enough for anyone to make bold statement on that subject. He does help the U.S. by shutting down opponents and critics and is able to intergate the whole of North America and the States into a "true American" way of life.Riley.Konner 09:40, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * And the fact that he is able to do all of that so effectively is one of the reasons why I personally feel this timeline is implauisble. Tbguy, even if mistaken on some points, does make the point that this TL seems to much like a liberal utopia to be realistic, especially on the expanded US.  -Mitro
 * Discussion


 * I will clear up what I mean: by that he appears out of nowhere, I mean Charlie Edwards is found in a forest by some campers, which is odd, and then is walking and talking months before any other child his age, and being actually able to read Forth Grade books by age two? I highly doubt that. On his first day of school, he's suggested to be moved up to Grade Five, and graduating school at 13, then going to collage. This seems utterly ridiculous, as he wouldn't have the maturity to make it through, even if he was a gifted child. This seems crazy. while it is still possible for him to create this new kind of jet engine, and that part's alright to my point of view, but from 2000, the world starts going crazy. First, Edward is elected, which seems plausible, but then his programs: Healthcare, basically the realization of "Manifest Destiny" with the unification of Canada and Mexico, the over-liberalization of America, space exploration that reaches the moon and Mars, etc. etc, are all achieved in eight years. In real life, it would have been impossible to try to get a few of these things through Congress or accepted by the majority of the people without major compromise or complete back tracking on some things, and then still most likely not being accepted. I see this TL, after 2000, as completely unrealistic, as it seems that not one thing can go wrong for Pres. Edwards (even 9/11 is better, as Afghanistan is brought peace and security within a couple of years), and that all opposition is either muted or brushed aside easily. Even though I'm from Canada, I know from watching any new program or reading anything related to the US since 2005, I know that this is technically, physically, and plausibly unrealistic, as opposition on almost everything can be encountered, with everyone calling their opponents "Nazi" or "Socialist" over anything that Bush or Obama does.

This story is an interesting fiction, and maybe kind of plausible, but I see this as totally unrealistic Alternate Histroy without several major divergences before 2000, and I will not change my vote. Tbguy1992 01:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Finland Superpower
Nomination by Iamtheggman.
 * Supporters
 * it has a nice portal page with good photos and a timeline and it has good links--Owen1983 22:59, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, is very unrealistic, but it still cool--Ed9306 03:56, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agee that it's a bit Alien Space Batty,,, but it's a little more plausible than some. I say, give it a chance. Defender of the Fang 13:50, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Implasible yes, but has a nice ring to it. I feel it can be made better, yet I give it my approval. LizardKing12 12:43, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors
 * My biggest problem with this TL is the implausibility of it. How Finland expanded just seems so unrealistic. If Finland is so powerful, how come it never expanded into OTL Russian territory? Mitro 16:45, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. It shouldn't be nominated for being featured. It should be nominated to be deleted. Until the creator shows signs of improving it, and I have checked many many times and he/she shows no interest in doing so. Until it is given the needed changes to be more plausible there is in my opinion no chance for it to become featured. If we did make it a featured history, then this page would be flooded with nominations for wank timelines even less plausible than this one. Yankovic270 20:27, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very Implausible.VENEZUELA 00:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * --Karsten vK (talk) 19:33, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very creative but I see little reason other than that. If it were expanded on a little more than I'm completely ready to switch my vote. Red VS Blue 21:58, June 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Discussion
 * Well it was expanded quite a bit since the last time I took a look at it, I am still not though whether to support or object. Riley.Konner 10:29, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * There are three supporters now for this TL, however when there are objectors general policy is to only mark it as a featured alternate history when the nomination has three supporters + a supporter for each objector. This TL needs 3 more supportors before it becomes featured (unless there are more objectors). Mitro 14:02, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Perez Jimenez's Venezuela
I think is good and plausible, also it just need some article because it doesn't tell and alternate world but and alternate Venezuela. VENEZUELA 05:35, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Supporters

Arstarpool I think your comment is extremely nationalist, and if it one interest to a Venezuelan why not to featured, it's different to other timelines, I know 4 Venezuelans in the page: VENEZUELA 23:12, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors
 * Only 4 articles, not developed enough to be featured. -Mitro
 * This is an article that wouldn't interest anyone else but a Venezuelan. Arstarpool 05:18, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, it does not qualify since all candidates are supposed to keep a nationalism-neutral tone. Arstarpool 00:03, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion 
 * 1) VENEZUELA
 * 2) dafg
 * 3) Migue325
 * 4) the truth finder

Huh? Nationalist? Do you know what nationalism is?

Here are your so-called Venezuelans:

1. DAFG is fake, he is a puppet used by you to vote on polls.

2. The truth finder is a vandal, copies things right down from Wikipedia and has made FOUR EDITS.

3. Migue makes future hist map games.

I'm sorry, Vene, but it's the truth. Arstarpool 23:46, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) DAFG IS NOT A PUPPET IS A REAL PERSON AND I KNOW HIM IF YOU WANT SEARCH HIS HISTORY ALSO MIGUE325 KNOW HIM,.


 * 1) THE TRUTH FINDER DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE WIKIA

VENEZUELA 23:51, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) MIGUE IS A VENEZUELAN THAT HAVE SEEN MY TIMELINE.

Hahahaha, I did my research, DAFG is not a real person. Please do not "shout" at me with capital letters ever again!!!!. And Dafg only logs on when you need him to, and the truth finder has not logged on in a long time. How do you know the truth finder is Venezuelan anyways? Oerwinde banned you for operating puppets on the map games, remember? Arstarpool 00:00, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

DAFG is a real person, Warairna Repano is the puppet, and I know all of them, I said them to join the page, ok? VENEZUELA 00:14, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Choose Your Own Alternate History!
An innovative new althistory project where it is us, including me, you, and even you(!) who are the writers. It is already very extensive, with more than 60 full pages made in the last month, and shows no sign of losing steam any time soon. Plus, it'd be a very unique addition to the featured timelines list! Red VS Blue 23:34, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Supporters
 * Mitro 14:15, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I too, support this great timeline! Jazon Naparleon 15:54, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vegas adict 17:33, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Objectors
 * It's a nice principle, but I think that it still needs some work. For instance, different strands of the story are redlinked before others, and we haven't seen any one of the possible timelines reach a conclusion. I also feel that lots of the pages in CYOAH are very implausible, though there are some that are of higher quality. I think that this could be a featured timeline, and definitely a unique one, but it needs lots of work until then. Fegaxeyl 07:53, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a very nice TL, but I think at least one of the PODs should be finished first. Until then, my vote is (sadly) firmly against having CYOAH as a featured alternate history. Eastward Expansion 16:31, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is simply put, laughable! Its just like those map games! Do you see any map games being nominated for featured alternate history? French Victory 16:36, August 6, 2010 (UTC) (Invalid vote. As stated in the rule that went into effect on 6/9/2010, only registered users with 100 or more votes are eligible to vote. Mitro 17:04, August 6, 2010 (UTC))
 * A very cool and innovative idea, but it just does not "feel" like an alternate history, if that makes any sense to anyone.--Smallpox 18:36, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion
 * Fegaxeyl, your comment is folly in its entirety. I, among others, am working on fixing the redlinks so they are all at the same "pace," besides, why don't you make an article where a redlink is? You might be good at it. Also, seeing as how we tend not to jump ten years in a single page, it will take a while before even one of the '71 era pages reach 2010, or have a decisive event that alters the world so radically the story ends. Secondly, I, again among others, am working to remove any and all implausibility. My mission should be done by 11:59, Saturday, next. Though it may last until the Saturday after that, depending on various factors, such as community help, my own slothfulnes or lackthereof, weather conditions, etc. I hope that answers any and all of your questions, and prepares you to remove your objection once the aforementioned changes have been made. LT.FGN, Second-In-Command CYOAH, Jazon Naparleon 15:54, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will admit that I've been looking at helping out with the timeline, though I'm not sure if my way of doing things - stacks of details that would make individual pages utterly vast - would fit in, though I might give it a go. And I'm fully prepared to change my stance once the various problems (in my eyes) are sorted out. Though I do have another issue - scale. It is a bit jarring when we go from deciding the fate of single people (the teams sent to kill Hitler) to the fate of entire nations. Fegaxeyl 16:02, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Look at it in terms of the butterfly effect. A butterfly flaps its wings in China and later a storm hits the California coast. The TL embodies the same idea. One individual kills anothers, deciding the fates of millions more. Mitro 16:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think what French is trying to say, is that like map games, CYOAH is a 'do it yourself' sort of thing and nor genuine alternate history. Thats not what I'm saying, but I think its what French is saying.Eastward Expansion 16:38, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I have to disagree with what French is saying. It certainly does not follow the same format of the Map Games, which in many ways is like an RPG. Simply put it allows editors to take just one POD, but make several sub-timelines in regards to it. Mitro 17:01, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * The idea behind CYOAH is that the story would ultimately form a timeline, but the reader gets the chance to decide how the story plays along, and by choosing different divergences, the story will never be the same way twice, as long as everyone chooses at least one different link. By the time CYOAH reaches a higher stage of development (it will never be done, I'm sure), that it would form dozens, if not hundreds of different TL's, and would therefore count as a "multiple alternate history".

Since this is my creation, I'm not going to be voting for it, to eliminate bias, but you know what my vote would be.Tbguy1992 18:58, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Review Process
Sometimes timelines are elevated to featured status when they should not be. Also sometimes a good featured timeline is elevated, but later changes make it uworthy of being a featured timeline. If you think this has happened, you can put the timeline under review by following these steps:


 * 1) Use the nomination template above and explain why the timeline should no longer be featured.
 * 2) Add the  template to the article.
 * 3) If 3 editors support removing it's featured status, it will no longer be considered a featured TL.

IMPORTANT: By putting yourself down as a supporter, you are supporting the nomination to remove the timeline's featured status.

Puget Sound-1
I think we were overly hasty in making this a featured TL. It has a lot of articles but very little actual content. I think it featured status should be removed. Mitro 16:24, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supporters
 * I support the removal of PS-1's featured status wholeheartedly, as it really is lacking in content and story. Jazon Naparleon


 * Same here. While a neat idea, it needs a major improvement. Tbguy1992 01:47, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree wholeheartedly with the above. Red VS Blue 20:26, August 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Objectors


 * Discussion