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PMII WAR
Hey I know we are now at war. But let me be clear, i want to be an independent nations, I feel the HRE is breaking the rules it founded on, I should know, I was a founding member, under the constitution and the treaty, I am allowed to leave the HRE at any time, for any reason. You dont have a dog in this fight. I ask you to please reconsider your stance. I merely want to be free to expand my nation as I choose, do what I want, which I cant under the current regieme. Me and Scraw have a sort of plan to destroy the current HRE and rebuld it, instead of having all these loose nations, we gobble up all the little ones, letting Bavaria, Brandenburg, and Venice control a much tighter organised nation. are bone is not with being Imperial, but having little say in decisions and suchAndr3w777 (talk) 18:18, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

PMII - Ethiopia
Hey, could I return to Ethiopia now that the Caliphate is gone? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 19:02, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Apoc: 2012
That's fine, everyone needs breaks now and then. :) My specialised area is the Balkans and Australia, but more Balkans than Australia. Airlinesguy (talk) 11:42, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I do, I live in Melbourne. Airlinesguy (talk) 12:02, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and if you're still on, do you want to discuss Crete? :P Airlinesguy (talk) 12:20, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yay for surviving! Ugh we have to help the other survivor states, lol.

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Oh OK, awesome! So I don't have to give Crete back? Good! All the best for the new Doge! Airlinesguy (talk) 13:33, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

So be it then. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 19:08, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Our Plans
Do you remember our age-old plan to invade and conquer the Incas? Well we should get to it because the Germans and the Mayans(smells of implausibility) are planning to do so.AP (talk) 01:10, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. We'll figure out the details after our victory. When do we begin?AP (talk) 01:16, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and you two are going to reach it how? Colonies? At least the Mayans are really close to it. You guys doing anything near that is implausible. And Germany isn't part of this. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:18, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Besides, that was just speculation. That wasn't me doing anything about it. CourageousLife (talk) 01:42, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

We need to rule as mods on Burgundy's invasion of the Incas. I think it should be retconned because there was no precedent and the fact that it was based on metagaming.AP (talk) 02:28, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like a good back-up plan, but I think it should be totally retconned. Sine is a notorious metagamer and should not have his way.AP (talk) 03:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Oh and he also tried this with the Aztecs but it got retconned.AP (talk) 03:24, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

So when do we invade the Incans?AP (talk) 06:03, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

So that means my algorithm score increases by 50%? If so, that does sound fair, and then I can just conquer them anyway. Ill accept, but can I declare war on Greece now?(DeanSims: Talk) 12:20, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sweet, and yes, you can have that weird penninsula that makes up southern Greece in return for a full military alliance. (DeanSims: Talk) 15:40, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

I could use a map yes please, also it does sound fair, and I didnt realize I had a 1.5 multiplyer already, so it would be increased to 3.0 multiplyer right? 2.0 sounds fair too. (DeanSims: Talk) 19:18, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

A2012: Strikes List
Hey Scan.

I was wondering if you could give me an estimate of when the Strike List for Apocalypse:2012 would be finished?

No rush, regards - Enclavehunter (talk)

I went to ask you this, as you are a mod, and i need an second opnion about this, as i've asked Lurker already but i don't think he'll answer:

As you might know Castille's player is inactive in all but name.he is still is up on the player list and has an color on the map.This is the first time that an situation like this happens.the last situation remotely like this (Great Mediterranean war) didn't had the player absent for so long.The question is whether i should treat Castille like a player nation, like he technically is, and he receives no bonus, or treat him as NPC, like he should have been declared by the time in which he spent absent, and he receives a bonus.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:51, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but i didn't understood the logic.for me to form Iberia, i would have to conquer over 33% of Castille, so they shouldn't receive a bonus, which would mean that they would have a player.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:33, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

So, i should treat him as an NPC, due to his prolonged absence or treat him as an player, considering that his name is still on the list?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:05, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Deepnds.what are the requirements?i need to know most of them, not some.i might accept without being able to doing something not mntioned.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:05, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Well, since i already do some, or most of the things you talked about, but in a smaller scale, i think that i can do it.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 11:40, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, and you still didn't answer my question about Castille.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 11:40, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

So i should disregard the part where you told me to form Iberia?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 15:46, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Proposition

I have a mutually benificial proposistion for Venice and Bavaria. When the HRE implodes, I would like Venice's help in attacking and conquering Bohemia/ Hungary,furthermore I have plans for a further expansion perhaps in Austria. As Bavaria is now a free nation, and once the HRE is no more, then it will be fair game for all nations, I'd like our two nations to dominate the South of Europe while Brandenburg deals with the North. We can work out the details later.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:39, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Kick starting A:2012
When can I begin posting whatsits? Is this going to be a live timeline like DD? David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 10:56, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

I believe we have an agreement.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:24, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Here is a map of the proposed areas with Bavaria getting Bohemia, North Austria, and North Hungary. With Venice gaining Switzerland, South Austria and Tryolia, as well as South Hungary. Obviously tentative and subject to change.Andr3w777 (talk) 21:01, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey since you can't fully aid in the war, can you at least send supplies? You can send them to my naval base at Gibraltar and I'll take care of the rest.AP (talk) 19:27, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

On another note about A:2012, I was wondering if I could write the nation page for South Africa, considering that the Africa Strike List is finished (if I read correctly). Enclavehunter (talk) 22:22, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. Here's what I had in mind:   You have returned from your break, right? 77topaz (talk) 22:12, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2012:
 * South Africa does not collaspe, unlike most African nations, and is the most stable nation in Africa, possibly.
 * Refugees begin arriving from collasping African nations in the north or vessels that were at sea in the South Atlantic and Indian Ocean.
 * 2013:
 * Contact with St.Helena, Ascension Island, Sandwhich Islands, and other British Overseas Territories in the South Atlantic and Indian Ocean.
 * I believe that these portions of the territority would come in contact with South Africa, espically with electricity and communications still running in both the islands and South Africa.
 * I also believe that Diego Garcia, an US Naval Base in the Indian Ocean, would make contact with South Africa, espically with communications still running.
 * On another note, I was thinking that the USS John C. Stennis and the USS Mobile Bay, bother US Navy ships stationed in the Persian Gulf, would make it to South Africa. Both ships were not in port during the Apocalypse and were in the Persian Gulf. And if they were not targeted and there was no strikes near the Strait of Hormuz, they would be able to evacuate the Persian Gulf and probally flee to the closest stable nation, which would be South Africa.
 * Thoughts, Enclavehunter (talk) 03:11, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I was wondering would there be ISAF (American, British, etc.) forces in Afghanistan in this A:2012. Enclavehunter (talk) 04:43, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

That would be good. Is the map up to date? 77topaz (talk) 08:03, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh one more thing. At approximately what point in day did the nukes start flying? Enclavehunter (talk) 18:38, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there. I'm excited for Islands to start, so when would it be possible to finish the map? Pavillion (talk) 18:42, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I've started the weather. Having done a few basic calculations, I've decided to just fab the whole thing. Pitch in! The Royal Guns (It&#39;s a PUN, people. I&#39;m not saying I&#39;m royal. And the name is GUNS.) (talk) 01:42, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I was thinking a mutual ceasefire between surviving ISAF forces and Taliban, espically due to both sides loosing heavy amount of troops or militants to the nuclear strikes and aftermath. I know they would hate them, but considering each lost alot of people, a sense of humanity would arise out of the chaos. And I believe this could be one of them.

On another note, I was wondering about the ISS and its crew? Enclavehunter (talk) 05:56, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Did the electromagnetic pulses from the nukes destroy the satellite network. If not, I was thinking that contact between South Africa, Thailand, and New South Wales would remain in contact with each other through communication satellites. Enclavehunter (talk) 00:41, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Say, you think Japan could possibly obtain the Southern Chishima/Kuril islands and maybe a bit more territory or no? Was thinking that after the Nuclear War event and some days later, they could probably plan on getting back on at least their claimed areas (in this case the Southern Chishima islands). -Kogasa 2013年1月25日 23:51:59 (JST)

Okay then. I guess it'll be a long time before they can do that. Is it okay if I start the article of Japan? -Kogasa 2013年1月26日 02:41:28 (JST)

Hey Scan. I was looking at the strike list for California and you currently have Riverside and San Bernardino on the Strike List.

Being a native of Southern California, Riverside nor San Bernardino have no reason to be struck by nuclear weapons. Both would serve no purpose if an EMP fried the infrastructure: airports destroyed, roads clogged, and rail tracks blocked. They also have no economic or military value, well besides March AFB, which mainly hosts C-17's and drones, which can serve no purpose if the EMP fried their electrical circuits, and their no oil reserves in the area. And how is that these two minor cities were nuked, but Fort Irwin, Barstow, and Anahiem survived the nuclear war.

Thus, I believe it is more plausible to replace Riverside and San Bernardino with Fort Iriwn, Barstow, and Anahiem for the strikes in California.

But it's your TL, so you pick what and what got nuked. Enclavehunter (talk) 00:23, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Scan, again. I was wondering what the strikes in Nevada and Michigan would be?

And I was wondeirng, if I could create a survivor nation in North America. Enclavehunter (talk) 23:53, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Mind if I contribute? I got an idea for a Cacausus Commonwealth Daxus Inferno (talk) 19:42, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Size of Manchuria's colonies in PMII
Can you help me figure out how big my colonies truly are? I can only make a guess at how large they are.--Yank 20:21, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Scan why do you insist on pretending that Venice didn't loose its Albanian & Montenegrin territories? Venice lost those lands to the Caliphate in the Mahdi's third war. They became Caliphate owned and they got incorporated into Albania and Montenegro respectively. So why do you keep updating the map to show that Venice still owns these lands even though they lost them? You haven't invaded Albania or Montenegro so you shouldn't have them. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:29, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

No worries mate, wish I'd just messaged you sooner to ask so this misunderstanding didn't last as long as it did. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 01:23, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, The Ottoman Empire is now the Christian Kingdom of the Byzantines and  The Kingdom of the Byzantines offers Venice an allaince and help in its war with Greece. (DeanSims: Talk) 12:30, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Scan. When I mentioned the map mistake, i meant to say the reverse. Collie's map was edited, not yours so I meant that your map should be canon. Sorry for the confusion. I hope you don't mind, i'm undoing that edit and getting rid of the wrong map:) AP (talk) 09:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Kingdom of Rome and Crimea begs the Venetiana for aid against the evik Moslems, we beg you and swear we forget claims,on Europe (DeanSims: Talk) 16:33, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Territories (PMII)
Hey can you do me a favor and update the size of my nation on the territories page, also my new vassal Nassau still has not appeared on any map. Secondly, are you intrested in a joint invasion of Switzerland, you are entitled to a fair percentage if we winAndr3w777 (talk) 19:33, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Germany and I are allied to the Netherlands, we helped them gain independence. Also, Gibraltar and West Point(Scandinavian Cuba) are valuable assets. So, sorry we can't help:(AP (talk) 02:43, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

AP and I will both help the Netherlands if you invade. However, we will both help you if you want to invade Burgundy.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  02:47, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

1983: Doomsday
The N.P.R.C proposes a possibility of funding the industrialization of the cities of Hanyang, Xiangyang, and Jingzhou. In return, 25% of the total profits could be alotted to Guangxinese companies.

Canuck2012 (talk) 01:41, February 11, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

My Survivor Nation
Hey Scan, I was hoping you could look at a proposal for my survivor state located in my sandbox. Enclavehunter (talk) 01:05, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Proposal
I have an offer. I offer you Vastra Pekar(West Point) in exchange for Nuovo Milano. This is contingent on the fact that I will be allowed to retain a naval base in West Point so I can maintain naval power to protect my Caribbean interests.AP (talk) 21:57, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

First, that area was claimed as Mayan territory because the government began a campaign to regain it. Any other campaigns into that territory would be cause for war. If you look at the 1585 map, then you'll see that the dark grey area was the area that had no formal government, and the Mayans expanded into it the first turn.after the revolt. The other two areas were soverign states, so you would have had to gone to war with one or more of them. I am willing to observe some of your expansion into the darker grey area, but not into the lighter grey area. CourageousLife (talk) 21:27, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Rainbow Dash. :) ima firin ma lazar!!!!! o(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 17:39, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Are you allied with Brandenburg btw? :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:02, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

That's good. I will need your support. Should I invade Bengal, cause AP is saying he will vassalise it, but I have fought a war with it. I really want Bengal, what should I do? Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:14, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

I have absolutely no problem with that mate :)

But, if he tries to invade would I win? Because I am pretty sure I have 10 times the population of his country (c'mon, all his countries combined now is only 20 million). So, what do you say? Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:25, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. But what does affect a draw mean? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:22, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mate, which country are you going to invade now? I would like to know this as I would like to send aid (as per our alliance requirments). But I will be looking to inavde Sundabang in a few turns, so I expect some aid in return :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:18, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

What method would this be?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:28, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Malacca? Uh oh. That's a no go cause China's looking to expand into the area and I have promised not to interfere in Malacca's matters. Why not invade the Philippines or something else though? Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:44, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

I think that i should keep making the map.last time you was on the job, how do i say... every map, my colonies stayed the same size than in the first map, even though i posted correction maps every time that you posted the main one.now, i understand that only i understand how my colonies expand, but that was a different matter altogether.that was about making the same mistakes that people say i'm making (and i am probably making sometimes) since the first installment.and plus, there are some implausibilities that certain users put on their corrections, and which should not be carried through on the main map.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 15:50, March 4, 2013 (UTC)