Talk:Britannic Commonwealth (Yellowstone: 1936)

Proposal, is it allowed? I think it will spend a lot of the early years battling Japan on the Oceanian Belt (The one long bridge across Oceania)

Erm, I was planning to do the British Empire. Could we make this a joint project? Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:48, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

OK Imp. I assume this will be a power? If Australia and New Zealand alone can be a power, this should be...

I was thinking of having the British see the ice coming toward Scotland and see the worsening weather and begin "The Great Exodus" toward South Africa where they would establish a new central nation for the British Empire and get as many people out of the UK as they could and make South Africa into their capital nation, from which they could focus on retaking India which had fallen into chaos. Around half of the Brits in the UK would die while a quarter would make it out and the other quarter would become citizens of the dominion of England or something and mine coal in the area  which were left uniced.

Then when the Brits begin to establish proper control in Africa - they might start up camps or might put in laws which limit the growth of the black population so that the white population could boom - early apartheid but in a much worse manner. This would probably end in the early 80s but real equality would only be achieved by the late 00s.

Thoughts? Imp (Say Hi?!) 00:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I feel like the Indians would have rebelled, I'm just saying.

I feel like they would as well, but I think, given the number of British forces in Africa, Austrialia, and former Malaysia, they could eventually defeat the rebellion, especially with a lot of Indians starving.

"This is not your grave  but you are welcome in it. " 01:31, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I doubt it. 400 million Indians vs a couple million Brits... ehh.... the Indians would be free, methinks. No way for the Brits to keep em.

What about the fact that India had more people, but far fewer weapons? They would be defeated in any battle, just like when they were attacked before. And with a Japanese Empire bearing down on them, I doubt they would rebel

And to add to the fact that the nation would have descended into civl war from the word go. You have the Brit governers trying to keep control of the nation, but various conflicting independent movements all around the nation and a huge civil war which would lead to religious, racial, castal - you name it - bloodshed. Added with the effects of ED, and you soon have the predicted loss of pooulation at at least 100 million. The nation would be a shattered wreak - most would actually end up welcoming the Brits when the return.

India was just not prepared for independence in 1936, nothing was sorted out. Trust on bloodshed. One faction will probably be very stable and inherit a lot of the ammunition and factories and stuff and have enough sorted out to begin funding of better weapons and farming methods and stuff but they would also end up being conquered - around the 40s-50s.

The British Empire will pretty much enact harsh apartheid policies in Africa to maintain control and it would only be until the late 80s when they would allow face value introduction of blacks in Africa into the governing system and only by the 00s will the Brits evolve into a mostly equal democratic governing type of nation. So yea. Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:39, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Japan? They'd be totally SHATTERED. Ring of Fire Chain Reaction? You saw what ONE EQ can do to Japan; now imagine 25.

Civil War? There's a cert. But, that said, you'd end up with 7-8 smaller states in India; and the Brits would be unable to take them back.

Britain? Pah. They just don't have the method to transport a decent segment of the population to South Africa. The government, sure. But without modern ships and all... simply no way to pull all that off. Why would they abandon the Isles in any case? Northern Scotland might be above the LPF, and it would get a lot colder, but I can't see a mass exodus. The government, possibly, but the rest... ehh..

Basically, the Brits are finished as conquerors.

Guns, the British Empire could quite easily keep control of the Dominions, barring India, which would take a few years to reclaim. Don't make sweeping statements please

Guns, are you being serious? They have the largest naval fleet in the world right now (a la 1936) - and what are you on about with ships not being like now. Seriously. All those destroyers, heavy crusiers, battleships, battlecrusiers, support ships and your normal fishing boats and freight ships and transport ship and stuff will all be there to transport those people.

Seriously, only the foolhardy or dumb or patriotic or all three would decide to stay on - and I think 5 million of them is enough. Not only that, you will find many nations beginning to try to co-operate to do the same. Many French ships and stuff and Dutch and all them would most certainly strike improprou deals like - "get these many people here please, as soon as our ships are ready, we'll return the favour".

Plus, we have all decided that it will not happen immidiately. The Japanese will see the warnings, and they are not dumb people at all. They will most definately begin to move people into China not only because they can and it was in their plans already, but because they can see what will happen. At least half would make it into Manchuria and China and set up new lives. It might be difficult getting the people move, but the Army will probably use terms like "if you don't listen you us, you have no honour". Imagine Klingons as Japanese, you should get the basic idea.

We are definately not saying it will happen in one day, or even one year. God knows how many trips they will have to take and how long they can take them before their ships begin to run outta gas, but when they establish a clear command nation, they will be able to sort that problem out and get back to it. I would trust the Dutch to try to go to Indonesia too - which I would say would suffer the same fate as India but would eventually end up benefiting a lot - not before the Dutch established control once more. The Belgians will probably not remain all alone either - either they will break up or join with the Dutch, but one way or another will end up under Dutch control. Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:36, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

No... THE BELGIANS ARE IN NORMANDY FTW. Though that would've happened in the 50s or 60s I'm thinking.

Guns, for now, is done arguing =)

Unlucky 13. 20:33, November 9, 2013 (UTC)