User talk:Scandinator

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PMII WAR
Hey I know we are now at war. But let me be clear, i want to be an independent nations, I feel the HRE is breaking the rules it founded on, I should know, I was a founding member, under the constitution and the treaty, I am allowed to leave the HRE at any time, for any reason. You dont have a dog in this fight. I ask you to please reconsider your stance. I merely want to be free to expand my nation as I choose, do what I want, which I cant under the current regieme. Me and Scraw have a sort of plan to destroy the current HRE and rebuld it, instead of having all these loose nations, we gobble up all the little ones, letting Bavaria, Brandenburg, and Venice control a much tighter organised nation. are bone is not with being Imperial, but having little say in decisions and suchAndr3w777 (talk) 18:18, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

PMII - Ethiopia
Hey, could I return to Ethiopia now that the Caliphate is gone? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 19:02, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Apoc: 2012
That's fine, everyone needs breaks now and then. :) My specialised area is the Balkans and Australia, but more Balkans than Australia. Airlinesguy (talk) 11:42, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I do, I live in Melbourne. Airlinesguy (talk) 12:02, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and if you're still on, do you want to discuss Crete? :P Airlinesguy (talk) 12:20, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yay for surviving! Ugh we have to help the other survivor states, lol.

~*-*~

Oh OK, awesome! So I don't have to give Crete back? Good! All the best for the new Doge! Airlinesguy (talk) 13:33, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

So be it then. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 19:08, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Our Plans
Do you remember our age-old plan to invade and conquer the Incas? Well we should get to it because the Germans and the Mayans(smells of implausibility) are planning to do so.AP (talk) 01:10, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. We'll figure out the details after our victory. When do we begin?AP (talk) 01:16, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and you two are going to reach it how? Colonies? At least the Mayans are really close to it. You guys doing anything near that is implausible. And Germany isn't part of this. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:18, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Besides, that was just speculation. That wasn't me doing anything about it. CourageousLife (talk) 01:42, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

We need to rule as mods on Burgundy's invasion of the Incas. I think it should be retconned because there was no precedent and the fact that it was based on metagaming.AP (talk) 02:28, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like a good back-up plan, but I think it should be totally retconned. Sine is a notorious metagamer and should not have his way.AP (talk) 03:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Oh and he also tried this with the Aztecs but it got retconned.AP (talk) 03:24, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

So when do we invade the Incans?AP (talk) 06:03, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

So that means my algorithm score increases by 50%? If so, that does sound fair, and then I can just conquer them anyway. Ill accept, but can I declare war on Greece now?(DeanSims: Talk) 12:20, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sweet, and yes, you can have that weird penninsula that makes up southern Greece in return for a full military alliance. (DeanSims: Talk) 15:40, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

I could use a map yes please, also it does sound fair, and I didnt realize I had a 1.5 multiplyer already, so it would be increased to 3.0 multiplyer right? 2.0 sounds fair too. (DeanSims: Talk) 19:18, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

A2012: Strikes List
Hey Scan.

I was wondering if you could give me an estimate of when the Strike List for Apocalypse:2012 would be finished?

No rush, regards - Enclavehunter (talk)

I went to ask you this, as you are a mod, and i need an second opnion about this, as i've asked Lurker already but i don't think he'll answer:

As you might know Castille's player is inactive in all but name.he is still is up on the player list and has an color on the map.This is the first time that an situation like this happens.the last situation remotely like this (Great Mediterranean war) didn't had the player absent for so long.The question is whether i should treat Castille like a player nation, like he technically is, and he receives no bonus, or treat him as NPC, like he should have been declared by the time in which he spent absent, and he receives a bonus.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:51, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but i didn't understood the logic.for me to form Iberia, i would have to conquer over 33% of Castille, so they shouldn't receive a bonus, which would mean that they would have a player.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:33, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

So, i should treat him as an NPC, due to his prolonged absence or treat him as an player, considering that his name is still on the list?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:05, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Deepnds.what are the requirements?i need to know most of them, not some.i might accept without being able to doing something not mntioned.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:05, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Well, since i already do some, or most of the things you talked about, but in a smaller scale, i think that i can do it.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 11:40, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, and you still didn't answer my question about Castille.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 11:40, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

So i should disregard the part where you told me to form Iberia?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 15:46, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Proposition

I have a mutually benificial proposistion for Venice and Bavaria. When the HRE implodes, I would like Venice's help in attacking and conquering Bohemia/ Hungary,furthermore I have plans for a further expansion perhaps in Austria. As Bavaria is now a free nation, and once the HRE is no more, then it will be fair game for all nations, I'd like our two nations to dominate the South of Europe while Brandenburg deals with the North. We can work out the details later.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:39, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Kick starting A:2012
When can I begin posting whatsits? Is this going to be a live timeline like DD? David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 10:56, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

I believe we have an agreement.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:24, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Here is a map of the proposed areas with Bavaria getting Bohemia, North Austria, and North Hungary. With Venice gaining Switzerland, South Austria and Tryolia, as well as South Hungary. Obviously tentative and subject to change.Andr3w777 (talk) 21:01, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey since you can't fully aid in the war, can you at least send supplies? You can send them to my naval base at Gibraltar and I'll take care of the rest.AP (talk) 19:27, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

On another note about A:2012, I was wondering if I could write the nation page for South Africa, considering that the Africa Strike List is finished (if I read correctly). Enclavehunter (talk) 22:22, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. Here's what I had in mind:   You have returned from your break, right? 77topaz (talk) 22:12, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2012:
 * South Africa does not collaspe, unlike most African nations, and is the most stable nation in Africa, possibly.
 * Refugees begin arriving from collasping African nations in the north or vessels that were at sea in the South Atlantic and Indian Ocean.
 * 2013:
 * Contact with St.Helena, Ascension Island, Sandwhich Islands, and other British Overseas Territories in the South Atlantic and Indian Ocean.
 * I believe that these portions of the territority would come in contact with South Africa, espically with electricity and communications still running in both the islands and South Africa.
 * I also believe that Diego Garcia, an US Naval Base in the Indian Ocean, would make contact with South Africa, espically with communications still running.
 * On another note, I was thinking that the USS John C. Stennis and the USS Mobile Bay, bother US Navy ships stationed in the Persian Gulf, would make it to South Africa. Both ships were not in port during the Apocalypse and were in the Persian Gulf. And if they were not targeted and there was no strikes near the Strait of Hormuz, they would be able to evacuate the Persian Gulf and probally flee to the closest stable nation, which would be South Africa.
 * Thoughts, Enclavehunter (talk) 03:11, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I was wondering would there be ISAF (American, British, etc.) forces in Afghanistan in this A:2012. Enclavehunter (talk) 04:43, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

That would be good. Is the map up to date? 77topaz (talk) 08:03, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh one more thing. At approximately what point in day did the nukes start flying? Enclavehunter (talk) 18:38, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there. I'm excited for Islands to start, so when would it be possible to finish the map? Pavillion (talk) 18:42, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I've started the weather. Having done a few basic calculations, I've decided to just fab the whole thing. Pitch in! The Royal Guns (It&#39;s a PUN, people. I&#39;m not saying I&#39;m royal. And the name is GUNS.) (talk) 01:42, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I was thinking a mutual ceasefire between surviving ISAF forces and Taliban, espically due to both sides loosing heavy amount of troops or militants to the nuclear strikes and aftermath. I know they would hate them, but considering each lost alot of people, a sense of humanity would arise out of the chaos. And I believe this could be one of them.

On another note, I was wondering about the ISS and its crew? Enclavehunter (talk) 05:56, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Did the electromagnetic pulses from the nukes destroy the satellite network. If not, I was thinking that contact between South Africa, Thailand, and New South Wales would remain in contact with each other through communication satellites. Enclavehunter (talk) 00:41, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Say, you think Japan could possibly obtain the Southern Chishima/Kuril islands and maybe a bit more territory or no? Was thinking that after the Nuclear War event and some days later, they could probably plan on getting back on at least their claimed areas (in this case the Southern Chishima islands). -Kogasa 2013年1月25日 23:51:59 (JST)

Okay then. I guess it'll be a long time before they can do that. Is it okay if I start the article of Japan? -Kogasa 2013年1月26日 02:41:28 (JST)

Hey Scan. I was looking at the strike list for California and you currently have Riverside and San Bernardino on the Strike List.

Being a native of Southern California, Riverside nor San Bernardino have no reason to be struck by nuclear weapons. Both would serve no purpose if an EMP fried the infrastructure: airports destroyed, roads clogged, and rail tracks blocked. They also have no economic or military value, well besides March AFB, which mainly hosts C-17's and drones, which can serve no purpose if the EMP fried their electrical circuits, and their no oil reserves in the area. And how is that these two minor cities were nuked, but Fort Irwin, Barstow, and Anahiem survived the nuclear war.

Thus, I believe it is more plausible to replace Riverside and San Bernardino with Fort Iriwn, Barstow, and Anahiem for the strikes in California.

But it's your TL, so you pick what and what got nuked. Enclavehunter (talk) 00:23, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Scan, again. I was wondering what the strikes in Nevada and Michigan would be?

And I was wondeirng, if I could create a survivor nation in North America. Enclavehunter (talk) 23:53, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Mind if I contribute? I got an idea for a Cacausus Commonwealth Daxus Inferno (talk) 19:42, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Size of Manchuria's colonies in PMII
Can you help me figure out how big my colonies truly are? I can only make a guess at how large they are.--Yank 20:21, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Scan why do you insist on pretending that Venice didn't loose its Albanian & Montenegrin territories? Venice lost those lands to the Caliphate in the Mahdi's third war. They became Caliphate owned and they got incorporated into Albania and Montenegro respectively. So why do you keep updating the map to show that Venice still owns these lands even though they lost them? You haven't invaded Albania or Montenegro so you shouldn't have them. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:29, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

No worries mate, wish I'd just messaged you sooner to ask so this misunderstanding didn't last as long as it did. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 01:23, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, The Ottoman Empire is now the Christian Kingdom of the Byzantines and  The Kingdom of the Byzantines offers Venice an allaince and help in its war with Greece. (DeanSims: Talk) 12:30, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Scan. When I mentioned the map mistake, i meant to say the reverse. Collie's map was edited, not yours so I meant that your map should be canon. Sorry for the confusion. I hope you don't mind, i'm undoing that edit and getting rid of the wrong map:) AP (talk) 09:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Kingdom of Rome and Crimea begs the Venetiana for aid against the evik Moslems, we beg you and swear we forget claims,on Europe (DeanSims: Talk) 16:33, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Territories (PMII)
Hey can you do me a favor and update the size of my nation on the territories page, also my new vassal Nassau still has not appeared on any map. Secondly, are you intrested in a joint invasion of Switzerland, you are entitled to a fair percentage if we winAndr3w777 (talk) 19:33, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Germany and I are allied to the Netherlands, we helped them gain independence. Also, Gibraltar and West Point(Scandinavian Cuba) are valuable assets. So, sorry we can't help:(AP (talk) 02:43, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

AP and I will both help the Netherlands if you invade. However, we will both help you if you want to invade Burgundy.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  02:47, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

1983: Doomsday
The N.P.R.C proposes a possibility of funding the industrialization of the cities of Hanyang, Xiangyang, and Jingzhou. In return, 25% of the total profits could be alotted to Guangxinese companies.

Canuck2012 (talk) 01:41, February 11, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

My Survivor Nation
Hey Scan, I was hoping you could look at a proposal for my survivor state located in my sandbox. Enclavehunter (talk) 01:05, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Proposal
I have an offer. I offer you Vastra Pekar(West Point) in exchange for Nuovo Milano. This is contingent on the fact that I will be allowed to retain a naval base in West Point so I can maintain naval power to protect my Caribbean interests.AP (talk) 21:57, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

First, that area was claimed as Mayan territory because the government began a campaign to regain it. Any other campaigns into that territory would be cause for war. If you look at the 1585 map, then you'll see that the dark grey area was the area that had no formal government, and the Mayans expanded into it the first turn.after the revolt. The other two areas were soverign states, so you would have had to gone to war with one or more of them. I am willing to observe some of your expansion into the darker grey area, but not into the lighter grey area. CourageousLife (talk) 21:27, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Rainbow Dash. :) ima firin ma lazar!!!!! o(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 17:39, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Are you allied with Brandenburg btw? :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:02, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

That's good. I will need your support. Should I invade Bengal, cause AP is saying he will vassalise it, but I have fought a war with it. I really want Bengal, what should I do? Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:14, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

I have absolutely no problem with that mate :)

But, if he tries to invade would I win? Because I am pretty sure I have 10 times the population of his country (c'mon, all his countries combined now is only 20 million). So, what do you say? Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:25, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. But what does affect a draw mean? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:22, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mate, which country are you going to invade now? I would like to know this as I would like to send aid (as per our alliance requirments). But I will be looking to inavde Sundabang in a few turns, so I expect some aid in return :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:18, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

What method would this be?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:28, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Malacca? Uh oh. That's a no go cause China's looking to expand into the area and I have promised not to interfere in Malacca's matters. Why not invade the Philippines or something else though? Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:44, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

I think that i should keep making the map.last time you was on the job, how do i say... every map, my colonies stayed the same size than in the first map, even though i posted correction maps every time that you posted the main one.now, i understand that only i understand how my colonies expand, but that was a different matter altogether.that was about making the same mistakes that people say i'm making (and i am probably making sometimes) since the first installment.and plus, there are some implausibilities that certain users put on their corrections, and which should not be carried through on the main map.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 15:50, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

About Nea Gyptions being in Cuba, i heard nothing about it.when i saw the event, it was in Florida.the Mombasa thing, i forgot, and Genoa, well, it is a mess that i don't even know how to explain how it started and why.Anyway, abou color counter, nowadays i use two methods; color counter, coloring the target country in black, maybe reverting colors for the black arwas if they are on the map and then using color counter, or counting the pixels manually.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:03, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Rome has a female heir to the throne and we would like to offer her to Venice in personal union, with Venice being the dominant partner in this Union. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 13:32, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Question
Is it okay if Okinawa could expand into the Ryūkyū civil disarray and fight the pirates via expansion or should I declare war on them altogether? -Kogasa  2013年3月11日 21:29:24 (JST)

Somali Sultanate Trade Offer
Hello. The new Somali Sultanate (Cushtic tribes region) has a trade offer. In return for iron ore, copper, and salt, Venice shall help the Somali Sultanate centralize it's government/bank and build up it's ecconomy/military. The first step in doing this is for the Somali Sultanate to vassilize the Swahili City States. We are open for further negoatian neccessary. Does this trade offer interest you? This is UglyTurtle, Signing off. 02:16, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey can you check the moderator page for PM please? We're trying to make a decision but we need your input to the decision making process. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 16:33, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
So, I realize that the Mayans aren't the most plausible nation on Earth. I want to try and change that, because I see that I'm rubbing the mods the wrong way. Do you have some suggestions for actions that you would consider plausible for me to do right now? CourageousLife (talk) 20:07, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

There's a few things I would like to discuss with you for PMII, but we need somewhere private.

23:35, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Do you feel comfortable with giving me your email or Skype?

21:21, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Got it. Pretty sure I found you.

22:55, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

'''King Marcus asks Venice and its vassals to aid in a Roman invasion of the Muslim state of Georgia-Armenia. Please help in this invasion, i would really arpeciate it. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 11:31, March 20, 2013 (UTC)'''

Would you like to support Cyprus and Crete in their war against Cyrenaica? You don't have to use the entirety of your nations, maybe just a vassal or two. Airlinesguy (talk) 11:01, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Great! Done deal! Airlinesguy (talk) 21:32, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

According to the map, Austria is an NPC. Bavaria has long dreamed of adding Austria to the Empire. We would be willing to give you the southern portion in exchange for add in the conflict. also can you determine the algorithm before I officially declare war, I don't want to attack, only to lose.

Rome thanks you DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 11:32, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I dont think i did the algorithm right, could you do it please?

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

Hey, You would make a great a Japan, please join the game as Japan, you can control there puppets as well, and the USSR is still open as well as Italy, please join The Red Fall (Map Game), you would also be a great Co Head Mod

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

Hello, I recently joined PMII as Carthage, I read through the last 25 or so years of history, anything else i should know before i make my first post, sir? Best Regards, G greg e (talk) 06:36, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Night of the Living Alternate History
I invite you to participate in the Night of the Living Alternate History. There are many nations still available, and we should be starting soon. Mscoree (talk) 17:19, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Was that part in your 1655 post about "​The current Venetian King decides to consolidate his lineage and offers the hands of his three granddaughters in marriage" reffering to that you are trying to marry those granddaughteers to foreign monarchs or something? if so, Castille is interested.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:18, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

So, Since it is like this, Castille is interested on the offer, since the king is trying to find a wife for the heir.Ah, and i am having to talk about this with you here because i don't know how to word this on the game, and plus, if i try there, we are not going to get anywhere.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:39, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Apocalypse 2012: The Fate of Ireland
Am I doing Ireland? If so I have come up with a basic outline, extrapolated from when you said you wanted a 'Unified Ireland'. How's that?
 * Republic of Ireland responds well provisional capital set up within week.
 * Northern Ireland collapses as per rest of UK, many small states
 * Several claim to be the UK.
 * Once Ireland is back on it's feet and functioning internaly as well as before (Mid April / Early May) it begins sending reconisance parties north.
 * Contact and diplomacy (Rest of May)
 * Many small states join up, but some resist. (June/July)
 * War of Unification takes place (though it's more like several wars happening simultaniously - no N. Irish united front) (August - November)
 * Unified Ireland finaly proclaimed 1 year on from the Apocalypse (21.12.13)

I reason there would be more resistance later because states will have had more time to stabilise and build up a sense of country.

I, personaly, dislike the idea of a United Ireland, I think it's too similar to DD. Thus I have tried to string it out over a longer period of time to avoid a carbon copy of the Celtic Alliance developing. By the time Ireland is unified, though they will be most powerful state in the former British Isles, they will not be able to take Wales, Cornwall, Scotland etc. and will have to resort to dipolmacy. I can see them acting like the US does in the world today, in the British Isles. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 11:26, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Could I please do Aberdeen? PLEASE!!! Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:19, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Scan. Orissa would like to pursue closer relations in-game, considering we are great powers (although you have the industrial edge). This would especially be good as we both are growing in might in the East Indies. What do you say?

This might mean we could fight a few collective battles in the region, if you agree. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:24, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

for some reason I can't post pictures of any sort on the wiki, it keeps saying "permission error" I'm making a page and want to put my pictures on it.Andr3w777 (talk) 04:59, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Do you want to go on chat? :L  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:13, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Apocalypse 2012: Republic of Merrimack
Recently I created a page for your timeline, Apocalypse: 2012. The page, Republic of Merrimack, is currently under construction, and I'm not entirely sure if I'm allowed to contribute to the timeline yet, but tell me what you think. I'm open to suggestions. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 02:03, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Australian Aboriginies
Hey i'm playing as the Australian Aboriginies and i was hoping, as one of the mods, if you will look at my posts in 1668 defending the plausibility of what i am doing. One of the mods crossed it all out, i can't find out which one or i would be asking them, and i was hoping one of the mods could look at my defence, as no one has replied yet, so something could be done about it. Thanks in advance. Hailstormer (talk) 18:08, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I thought i was being plausible and i'm glad someone else saw it that way. I think i will stick with it, i have a plan to partially modernise the Koori Union in such a way that it is plausible, and by extension of that i should be able to put up at least a half decent defence. Just to ask, no one can colonise Australia until 1700 right? Hailstormer (talk) 12:50, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Apocalypse: 2012
Scandinator, I am interested in Joining your timeline. Would you be able to give me more information on this...If I join, could I write about North East United States (Pennsylvania, New York, Vermont, Massachusetts, Maine, Rhode Island, Conneticut, New Jersey). I am also making a timeline called Korea Invasion: 2012...I am looking for people to add nations with my permission...Could you spread the word about this? Would you like to help?Daeseunglim (talk) 18:59, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Could I have NE US?Daeseunglim (talk) 18:29, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

I would like to form a nation called the State of Susquehanna Republic based in my hometown, Danville PA, and encompass out to Williamsport, up to Benton, and down to Sunbury. Capitol: Danville (Centrally located), Population 320,000 or so, Military: More to come, Democratic Republic with a Senate and Council (OTL: House of Representatives)...Is that ok? Thanks. FYI, if there is any specific area you would like in Korea Invasion: 2012, just post it on my talk page, I have very little claimed.Daeseunglim (talk) 15:45, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Is that ok if I add a nations link?Daeseunglim (talk) 18:32, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union (PMII)
Hello, i am playing as the Koori Union in PMII as you know. I am curious if you would be willing to sell Venice's OTL Papua New Guinea colony to the Koori Union? If so i shall also help you colonise an area of western Australia, as long as it doesn't clash with my prior commitment to help Japan with colonisation. What do you think? Hailstormer (talk) 14:31, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the quick reply. Hailstormer (talk) 14:40, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hello once again. I was hoping you could look at my post in 1678. Someone has deemed it implausible and i disagree with their comments, and i was hoping you could look at my defence for me. I ask you as you have previously looked at my defences whereas others have ignored them. Thanks in advance and i hope my defence proves fruitful. Hailstormer (talk) 16:50, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I am willing to drop both the Japanese islands and ports from my posts as that isn't what is bothering me. But i will not give up the expansion along the east coast. I was told by one of the moderators i could expand by 10000km at turn and i have stuck to this rule. I counted out each individual pixel of my expansion to make sure that i was not overstepping what i could do in the time i have used. So i am 100% sure i could colonise the areas i have shown on the map on the Koori Union page as i spent hours counting out each damn pixel of my expansion to make sure it followed the rules. In terms of how i manage this territory, in my posts i have stated how each tribal council member has control of his own tribe when the Karmai is absent or unreachable in a reasonable sum of time. Therefore even though there are large distances between certain points of my nation, they are still under the Tribal Council's control, if not by extension the Karmai. I also think what is going on is really unfair as i have been putting this expansion in my turns for the past 5 years now and only this turn has anyone said they have issue with it, pretty much ruining my turns for the past 5 years. I am willing to get rid of the ports and Japanese islands but can i just keep my expansion? Hailstormer (talk) 10:45, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I will bulk up the coast then. So just to clarify you are saying that the expansion on the Koori Union page, the expansion that i have done, is now accepted? Here is a link to the page: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Koori_Union_(Principia_Moderni_II_Map_Game)

Hailstormer (talk) 11:03, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Can't i just keep the land now and guarantee that i will spend the next two decades building up the coast i currently have? It seems like it is the same as what you are saying but just the other way round? Hailstormer (talk) 11:21, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to do that in the first place but the expansion would have been too quick each time i intergrated a tribe. But if you are saying that is fine then that is what i will do. The only reason i ask to keep the current borders is that i have set up a large number of settlements and if we retcon the borders then my posts won't make any sense. Hailstormer (talk) 16:02, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ok i have drawn up a map of Koori expansion so it follows the guidelines you set out. Is it ok? Hailstormer (talk) 16:17, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not playing in the PMII game, but I've just seen the post you put on the page, and there are no reported cases of the Plague and Smallpox striking at once so that doesn't make sense. Local (talk)

Hey buddy i have a quick question. What happens when someone puts a diplomatic proposal to an NPC in PMII? Do one of the mods use a random number generator, or decide the most plausible response? Also what is the largest proposal you can put before an NPC? For example could you invite a nation to join with your own nation? Hailstormer (talk) 17:22, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

I need something clearing up. Does Normandy have control of Tasmania or not? I am happy that he is ceding the land to me but i just want to confirm it is his to cede. Hailstormer (talk) 22:40, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Just a heads up I think you need to tell Normandy he does not own Tasmania, as he is currently posting as if he does. Hailstormer (talk) 21:55, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Quick question, what does 0.5 turns mean in the rules? Hailstormer (talk) 21:44, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Posting
Sure thing. I'll be able to do that for you. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:49, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Question
Would it be ok if my mate played as the Falkland Islanders? Hailstormer (talk) 14:07, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ello Scand. Ok heres the deal, were invading Persia, do you want in? you can get some pretty good land if you do.

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 12:26, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

please dont attack Rome -Dean

ok thats a really big releif. You would kick my a#$ into the dirt adn then burn it if you attacked. What nations are your allies? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:01, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

if you dont mind ill be adding your supprot to my algorithm agaisnt Perisa. Your aid will help me destroy them. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:02, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

You're the mapmaker for PMII, right? I had a question about the boundaries on the 1695 map that I can't ask on a public chat because it might give away my long-term strategy. Is chat a good way to do that? Commandante Lemming (talk) 01:08, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Colonisation
How have you colonised Fiji so quickly? You can't reach it from your main nation or within a reasonable distance of your other colonies so you shouldn't be able to do so. Hailstormer (talk) 11:59, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Plus it wasn't colonised till 1822 OTL. So colonising them in 1695 ATL is really implausible as there would be no point. Hailstormer (talk) 12:09, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hey during 1700 im going to proclaim the Second Roman Empire, and want you to know that i dont want any of your lands, id like Constantinople, but itl never happen. Im just letting you know so that you dont thnik ill attack you or your allies, and the Levanite will never be attacked, theyre safe and off limits. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:16, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

yay :) thatl help a LOT. But if i do form the 2nd Roman Empire, i just want you to know i wont be taking any of your lands or try to. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:23, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I was referring to the jump from the Galapagos Islands to French Polynesia rather than from Samoa to Fiji. Which i'm pretty sure didn't take place until after you captured the Incas. I can't disagree with your reasons for wanting these islands, as i hold many the same. Also i thought i would inform you that i have colonised Vanuatu and New Caledonia this turn, so they are under my control. These are the islands just west of Fiji. Also i would appreciate it if you didn't expand onto the remaining Solomon Islands, which is the island chain north of Vanuatu, as i plan to take these remaining islands. I think this is a fair request because, as you said, you already have many profitable colonies whereas i have zero. I have also offered you two deals in my current post for trade and a non-aggression pact so feel free to reply when ready. Hailstormer (talk) 16:44, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry probably should have wrote what i meant more effectively. Well if you say so, but don't be surprised somewhere down the line if i use this as an example for a jump of my own. I'm glad about the Solomon Islands. How will you attempt to contest them as i have already colonised them? Hailstormer (talk) 17:20, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Also the fact that you replied to my trade offer and not my non-aggression pact offer worries me greatly. Hailstormer (talk) 17:21, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough, i will keep that i mind. Ok i have just counted the pixels and realised you are right, so i will do it over a couple of turns. I have changed my post so that i got Vanuatu this turn, and i will get New Caledonia next turn. Haha yeah that situation didn't really pan out the way i imagined. Hailstormer (talk) 17:47, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Great War
Second Roman Empire:  Rome demands that Italia back down and withdraw from the Pacific Ocean and colonies under 200 people, and that the Koori will have the full faith and support of the Roman Empire. A secret Roman expedition bringing 500 Roman soliders and 3,000 Roman guns to the Koori Union finally reaches its destination. Military, infrastrucure and economy are completed. Rome also calls on the nations of the world to " see that Orrisia and Venice will not stop once the worlds lands are all settled, they will look at the weaker nations, and one by one go after them. We must stand together to halt Venetain and Orissian Imperialism, or else eventaully we shall all fall into the graveyard of nations. " Rome also completes its naval buildup, adn 3 new fleets, the Mediteranean, the Atlantic, and Pacific Fleets, each which is crewed with battle hardened war veterans from previous conflicts.

hello, Rome and Russia want to drop out of the conflict, which will assure you of winning DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 18:25, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

the SRE no longer exists. its now the United Kingdom of Rome and Persia, weve ended all operatiosn agasint you and pulled all our forces back. What do you want for peace? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 12:05, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

ive only been planning this for two game years. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:00, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

ok heres my offer, you get a huge chunk, more than half of Anatolia and dominance over the Medditeranean Sea, at least in the east,and its more land than what you originally asked for:

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:12, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Okay I've got Emir Ahmed of Media in the Levant asking the King's daughter to marry him. Then Levant and Caliphate enter a dynastic union. Can you respond in game if you agree or not please? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:22, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Im sorry that too has been cede to Russia DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 11:32, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Here, the lands already been legally given to Russia and Cyprus, and your in Personal Union with Russia and Cyprus is NUETRAL. Heres my offer anyway: and it cuts my Medditeraean Trade for good DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:18, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

those two areas are Russian can you join me on chat please? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:33, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Okay seeing how the Levant and Caliphate are now in dynastic union is it okay if I take post as them? Its not like you've been doing so and I got Fed's permission to take them over a few days ago on my talk page. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:03, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I will for a while, but my long term plan involves splitting up the Levant into 3 new parts, the Sinai and connecting territories will join the Caliphate, Egypt will rebel away as a new state, and the rest of the Levant shall remain as a reduced Levantine state.

Anyway that plan is for the future, our current concern would be Dean wanting Syria... VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 01:29, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate that you are willing to help, but I feel like I gained almost nothing from the war. I know I got York, but that was because the player decided to resign as York by offering vasalization, and Normandy and I made our own peace accords, which were not taken into account in our final accords. (Treaty of Nantes). I will be willing to let you have Tasmania if you can get me the rest of Normandy. As far as the war goes, my next war will be against Leinster, and I will win easily. Thanks, Reximus55 (talk) 13:03, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

We did actually declare war. If you look, Wales was marked (L). Our vassal only were marked (MV). Therefore, we were also at risk of being attacked. We did greatly weaken the Norman and Yorkish war efforts. In addition, we have sent troops to fight Koori since the start of our invovlement, as well as fighting with Russia. It says that we toppled the opposition. Can I get Aquitaine/Normandy and you can get Tasmania? Reximus55 (talk) 14:00, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so you are willing (as are the other leaders) to recognize the Norma right to exist? I just wanted to claim that so I could make sure Cookiedamage does not lose his nation. I would give it back to him, but didn't want others to take his nation (Germany). Reximus55 (talk) 14:07, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Some quick points. Its the United Maharajya of Orissa, lol. But apart from that, the map seems pretty darn good, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:01, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Where is Nuovo Milano? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 03:19, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Well no thank you. I was looking to expand my empire into the Indian Ocean. It's the best gain I've made so far. Thank you for the offer though. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 03:34, May 21, 2013 (UTC)



Here's what. I'll give you Tasmania in exchange for the piece of land you have on Sumatra. I've been trying to get at the Acehese for a century now. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:46, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Here's what, you can have Tasmania, but I also want your support in a war against China in the future. You can have northern China, but I want southern China for myself. And you can have your parts of Egypt too. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 17:21, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, you can have Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shanghai, and Shangdong. However, I would like the rest of southern China, and maybe parts of the north if you don't want that. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:48, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Viva, the same thing happens to me when I go to a Chinese buffet. I fill my plate with all kinds of things that I have no way of eating. Sometimes I don't even know what the hell it is, but it's tasty. But you get full faster than you'll believe. And guess what? You can't have this egg roll. You can't handle it.

Seriously, your plan is retarded. Also, you forgot the Philipines on your map. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 17:09, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Tokaido
Hello. If it's okay with you, can I buy back my former Tokaido colony? -Kogasa  2013 May 22, 13:39 (CET)

Oh? Well I did see you annex all of former Tokaido, but I didn't seem to see it being given back to me in game, so I assumed you still had it. -Kogasa  2013 May 22, 14:03 (CET)

DD
Given the recent proclamations regarding the PRC's intended expansion to the coast, the NPRC proposes a mutual alliance between Gansu, Guangxi and the NPRC. Economic and technological aid could be considered, if feasible, to help support possible future integration.

Canuck2012 (talk) 00:40, May 24, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Second Fail War
Hey, perfect chance for you to take out Germany has arrived. Join Ethiopia and Orissa against the Germans and Arabs and you can have your pick of any part of Europe. Times running out, once Imp gets involved (and Ethiopia's population bonus is fixed), we'll be winning the war. So come on out and join the fight! Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 13:46, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Scan you forget that the Levant who you are in dynastic union with is supporting the Arabians. Orissa is getting mauled of its own accord, they shouldn't have interfered. You're also breaking your alliance with me and Germany by helping them. I suggest you remain neutral or just abandon this 1 ally to help 4 of your other allies & get yourself Tasmania yourself for free. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 15:28, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Territory
You have your land now. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:49, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Negotiated Saxon-Ethiopia Peace
If you could make it that they return Saint Thomas and sign an assurance that they will not attack Saxon West Africa (at least not for a century) then I will withdraw from the war. Callumthered (talk) 22:52, June 4, 2013 (UTC)