Talk:Human Evolution: The Third Game! (Map Game)

Do we need to stick to the homo genus or can we make something up? CrimsonAssassin 18:11, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

We should be allowed to, but then that'll probably ruin the game, like the first one. Anyways, it's his call. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:25, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid that in order to make sure the past two incidents don't happen again, you will have to stick to the genuses Paranthropus, Australopitheucs, Kenyanthropus and Homo. If you want a new genus, come to my talk page and explain why your species warrants a different genus and give it a Latin name. I will decide whether or not I should approve it. Sorry to be so strict, but I want this map game to survive and thrive. Star Trek is not an option, so take that Captain "Kerth"! MattiasWestby 20:29, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for clearing that up! You may want to add a specific list of rules on the front page though. CrimsonAssassin 20:38, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

The Pact of Iron
I just want to clarify that by noon, April 12th, the game begins. If you want to play, then you must sign the pact.

All those who wish to play this map game will keep it plausible. Players will sign on only with the agreement that if anything gets out of hand, I reserve the right to delete it and, if things get really bad, kick the perpetrator off the game. You will also play with the knowledge that you must ask me before inventing a new genus. Also, it takes 10,000 years to make a small evolutionary change and 100,000 years to become a new species. You will not evolve civilization before 5,000 years ago. Me, Scrawland Scribblescratch and CourageousLife are the only mods. If you are absent for three turns of the game, your species automatically goes extinct unless you state beforehand that you will be absent. 'Finally, this pact is signed in iron, and nobody has the power to change it until this map game finishes and (god forbid) dies of implausibility. Sign below.'''

Australopithecus afarensis -

Australopithecus boisei -

Homo habilis -

Homo gigantis - CourageousLife 21:10, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Homo proeliator - MattiasWestby 20:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Homo arctous - le CrimsonAssassin 20:47, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Homo Tenuis - LurkerLordB (Talk)

Unknown hominid -

Unknown hominid -

Long may the pact of iron hold til the end of the map game!

Creator's signature - MattiasWestby 20:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Now that we have that established, the pact comes into effect at noon of April 12th. Be ready!

That is a complete dictatorship, which is why I have not signed it. I think everyone needs to go over general rules. (With the exception of everyone who has been here for a while.) Secondly, small tribes of hunters were around. They migrated in small bands (around ten to twenty) and killed and ate animals. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:31, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, maybe you're right. We just need some more rules. Problem is, I stated that nobody has the power to change it til the end of the map game. Then again, since the map game hasn't technically started yet, a few edits might be in order. By the way, I've been pushing you around and being a bit of a pest, and I think I owe you an apology. MattiasWestby 00:37, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Borders
How do you change borders and countries? I need to know how to change the territory of the species and, you know, create coloured countries. I'm new at map games, and I would really appreciate it. MattiasWestby 22:02, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I use Paint (PC) for all of my maps. If you want, I can be mapmaker. If not, then I can walk you through making maps. CourageousLife 22:14, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I really do appreciate it, CourageousLife. You can be mapmaker, and since I use a Mac I don't think I will be able to use Paint with or without a walkthrough but the gesture touches me deeply. MattiasWestby 22:27, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Any time. Two things - 1) I am going to change the map to a different version. This format has slight color differences which makes it super hard to work with. 2) When does the game start? - CourageousLife 22:31, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

The game starts April 12th at noon. I really like the map, but you can go ahead and change it. MattiasWestby 22:35, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Noon UTC? And don't worry, I'm trying to find an map that is almost exactly like yours, only easier to change. - CourageousLife 22:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering, what is UTC? MattiasWestby 22:42, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

The clock we use on this site. Since there are people in multiple timezones, we use UTC as a standard time. See the time at the end of your post? That is in UTC. You can look it up on Wikipedia (I think). Sine I'm on EST, my clock is five hours behind. UTC also runs in the 24-hour format as opposed to 12-hour. - CourageousLife 22:46, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I live in vancouver, and 12 o'clock UTC here is 6 am. So for me, the game starts on April 12th, 6 am. I will therefore be a couple hours late into the game but I think I will be able to manage. Thank you for clarifying things. 12:00 UTC, April 12th. Everyone be ready! (Incidentally, I chose April 12th because it is the hundredth anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic) MattiasWestby 22:55, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Is the map going to eventually expand beyond Africa? LurkerLordB (Talk) 23:02, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

It will eventually. Which reminds me, I will have to change Homo gigantis so that it lives in Africa too! I will make it live in Barbary Africa and the lush wetlands and forests that will eventually become the Sahara. You can leave Africa when the Ice Age hits. MattiasWestby 23:07, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

The Mapmaker's Page
If you want to add in a species or change a species' habitat but don't know how to edit maps, post your request here and the Mapmaker, CourageousLife, can do it for you. And CourageousLife, thank you again for volunteering as mapmaker. MattiasWestby 22:29, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't mean to ask a favour, like, five minutes after posting this section, but do you think that once the new map arrives, you could add in my territory? It is the Ethiopian Highlands. A Google Images Search might give you an idea of where that is. MattiasWestby 23:03, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

We're going to need to actually change the landmasses so it looks like Earth is under an ice age. I make the initial map if you guys want. CrimsonAssassin 23:14, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think the Ice Age affects Africa, does it? Mattias, how big is your territory? - CourageousLife 23:20, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

You'd think so, but actually, a lot of things changed. Somalia would be connected to Arabia, the Strait of Gilbitrar would be closed, the Mediterannean would be a bit more shallow and some lakes and rivers would be more shallow. CrimsonAssassin 23:37, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. I just added a new map. Does it look okay? Also, I'm not sure when this map game starts year-wise. - CourageousLife 23:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

First of all, the Ice Age wasn't all ice. There were periods called interglacials, meaning that every couple hundred thousand years or so the Ice Age would stop and turn into a period which was actually warmer than the modern day world. The game begins in an interglacial period, so we do not need to change the landmass. As for my territory, CourageousLife, pull up Google Images and search for "Ethiopian Highlands Map" and you might find something. Thanks. MattiasWestby 23:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I know, I mean when the ice ages start. CrimsonAssassin 00:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks CrimsonAssassin. And CourageousLife, the game starts 2.5 million years ago in an interglacial period. MattiasWestby 00:19, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the map game, LurkerLordB
Welcome to the map game, LurkerLordB. Don't forget to sign the Pact of Iron and make a description page for Homo tenuis. MattiasWestby 22:57, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you, but you forgot to say what tenuis means in Latin. MattiasWestby 22:59, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Tenuis means small or thin or little. On the subject of the Pact of Iron, I signed, but the main concern I have is the requirement that if three days are missed, the player's species goes extinct. Would there be a way to get around this if we specifically stated that we were leaving beforehand for planned absences, and perhaps have another player (or maybe just the moderator) control it while we were gone? LurkerLordB (Talk) 23:02, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

By all means, if you explicitly state beforehand that you will be absent for three days, I can add in a loophole. Good luck to you and Homo tenuis/"little man"! MattiasWestby 23:05, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

OK. Also, I added the desciption in the list. Should a seperate page be made for each species, or is the paragpaph description enough? LurkerLordB (Talk) 23:08, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

It is optional. You can make a separate page if you really want, but you only need a paragraph and my permission to play. MattiasWestby 23:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Homo excalliburis
Okay, who just invented Homo excalliburis? MattiasWestby 23:09, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:22, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Did you even ask to be a mapmaker? - CourageousLife 23:27, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I've been helping throughout this whole thing and told him how to actually make a map. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:41, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I've got it covered. Besides, it will be a lot less confusing with just one mapmaker. - CourageousLife 23:54, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering, because I went onto my page and I found one of the "Unknown homind" pages had been re-titled Homo excalliberus and there is no explanation, no additional people in the List of players, no new signers on the pact of iron and I just want to know who it was. You can play, but we need to know who you are. Thank you. MattiasWestby 23:46, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

A: It's me: Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:51, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

B: It's not your page, this is your page. This page was created by you.

C:These are not pages, they are called sections.

D: I am writing a paragraph for it, that is what I was doing all this time.

E: Where is the Pact of Iron?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:51, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about not clarifying.

A: I should have known that when you posted up above.

B: Sorry about that, I meant the map game, though I am the creator and mod and hold some authority over this game.

C: Okay, I meant sections.

D: I didn't notice.

E: The Pact of Iron is in the talk page and must be signed to make you an official member of this game. It is also helpful if you sign in the list of players.

Welcome to the game. MattiasWestby 00:06, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, I almost forgot. I'm afraid that the ability to smash rocks with your fist is an implausibilty, and the coward system seems to be the thinking of a modern human. You must remember that the players are not human yet, they are more primitive in thought and mind. I am afraid you need to change a few things or you can't play. Sorry. MattiasWestby 00:07, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Um no, that's not an implausibility because what I mean is pebbles, essentially. See the left for the actual size.

Alright, pebbles are good. And remember, they can't have a chieftain system and the idea of a coward yet, since they are primitve people, not true, modern humans. By the way, I've been a real nuisance to you, Scrawland Scribblescratch, and I owe you an apology. MattiasWestby 00:40, April 9, 2012 (UTC)