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What's going on?
I've been having a hard time lately with the wiki. Images barely load, I can't edit or publish anything, and sometimes I get blank screens despite being fully loaded. What is going on?

Canuck2012 (talk) 02:26, March 2, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Wikia's having issues. They actually announced it this time, too, so whatever it is, it must be significant. Will be over in a few days, I'm sure. Lordganon (talk) 11:39, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Issues? I'm having none... but I'm using the monobook skin so that's probably why. PitaKang- (We are the Emperor's Chosen | Ave Imperator!) 20:13, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Canuck, do you use IE? Sometimes, the older version cannot cope up, and Chrome usually solves the problem. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:22, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I've been having many problems, using any of my 3 browsers (Opera, Chrome & IE).. Hence I've not bothered doing anything here the past couple of days. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:43, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, this is the problem which was happening yesterday. Its been fixed I think :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:47, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

It goes on and off for me. Been waiting all day for a chance to make edits.

IE, Chrome, Opera, and Safari are all having the problem for me.

At first, I thought it was my computer. So then I used my desktop. Then I thought it was my network, so I tried using a school computer. Now I'm stucking refreshing pages and waiting.

Also, Pita, Monobook is having problems too.

21:02, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

It's the JavaScript. Mine didn't work Thursday, so I sent an error report, then it worked Friday, and then it wouldn't work today, so I sent an error report, and now it's back up again. Is there any way that the penalties for not posting on a map game can be lessened due to technical difficulties? CourageousLife (talk) 21:26, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

It has been acting up on my end. I couldn't edit pages yesterday and earlier today. Seems to be working fine now. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 06:10, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia announced earlier today that the javascript problems had been fixed. Should be the end of troubles with editing, for now. Lordganon (talk) 07:15, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Glad that's cleared up. And I use Chrome by the way. IE's too much of a pain nowadays, it seems.

Canuck2012 (talk) 17:37, March 9, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

I still can't edit the forums.

Not sure if that's related though.             "Very funny, Scotty.   Now beam down my clothes."

Like with any of their problems, I expect it will be a few weeks before it clears up entirely.

...And you still have the "signature." It needs to go, Guns.

Lordganon (talk) 09:11, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

SonnyPatton
Wow, this is truly hilarious.

I recently got a message from SonnyPatton that he had moved my Great White South timeline over to his site in order to make it into a game. He gave me this link, which apparently I can not view (apparently I am blocked for some reason, maybe someone else can see it?). I informed him that I did not want him to do this, and asked him to kindly remove it. He then replied trying to justify his actions, and I once again told him to remove the (unseen) content. Than THIS (I especially love the GIF).

I have given him my thoughts on the matter, and now I have blocked him. I am allowing him to be able to edit his talk page, only because I want to see what he plans to say in response.

I blocked him for a week, because of his wonderful comment to me, but also his comment to ImperiumGuy after he stood up for me. I assume I have no objections to this. I would also highly recommend extending the block much longer, but I feel a week is an initial start and it can be extended if needed. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:40, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Just as an update, this is what I see when I click on this link. At this point, I honestly don't care what is on that page, but just showing that I am blocked. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:41, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

The guy's an idiot - unless you are registered on his forum, you cannot see anything on it. Interesting that he found your IP to block it, though.

A permanent ban is a good plan. I also took the liberty, as per protocol, and since he was banned forever, to delete all his works on this site.

Lordganon (talk) 08:21, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, what an asshole... I think he was just trolling, though. No one's that stupid. PitaKang- (We are the Emperor's Chosen | Ave Imperator!) 14:40, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, how I wish you were right.

There is people that stupid.

Lordganon (talk) 08:42, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Some user named "Branbran64" has continuous vandalized the Night of the Living Alternate History (Map Game) page. His most recent attack has been posting "Eddie ands jon r butthurt so much they cant walk 'cause they have full anuses" several hundred times. He has wrote several messages, including one that sexually harrassed another user, and he appears to not be done. If some one could ban him that would be great. Mscoree (talk) 01:02, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

You two seem to share a few favorite wikis. Know each other from somewhere? CrimsonAssassin (talk) 05:46, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Banned for a very lengthy period. Lordganon (talk) 12:02, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Gl78064
I have been noticing that a user by the name of Gl78064 has been doing nothing but uploading flags (and a video) to this site. Not creating or editing articles, just uploading flags and a video (mostly related to Texas and Mexico). I commented him a while back about duplications, and have not seen a response.

The main reason I am bringing this up is because his actions remind me of Sunlord (which I brought up back in December). Not saying these two are the same guy, but that if he is not responding to comments and is only uploading files with no rhyme or reason, this seems suspicious. Not sure what to make of this, but if this is anything like before, this gradual uploading for no reason will continue. Any thoughts? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:56, April 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Lets see what his intentions are. He could just be getting acquainted with the wiki, although the similarities does seem pretty suspicious. [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:03, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

I highly doubt he is "getting acquainted" here, but I do agree that it is too early to say. But as of recently, he has re-uploaded a file that I told him was a duplicate, and messaged him about this again. If he does it again, that will be three strikes and I will probably block him. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:33, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, Nuke - block as you wish. Lordganon (talk) 10:01, April 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * He has recently added an article which includes all the images he has uploaded. However, he has also duplicated again. I have blocked him for three days. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:20, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

He has once again added a duplicate after being blocked for thee days, and has not made any kind of contact aside from adding files and an occasional article. I have re-blocked him for two weeks. If I have gone too far in the blocking period, feel free to change it. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 05:21, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

No, it's good - he hasn't responded or communicated to you, at all.

Really, unless something is horribly wrong with a block, or some other action, the decisions of an admin aren't going to be changed. Just wrong, overall, to question each other's decisions - one sign of a poor and dysfunctional admin team if that is the case.

Most I do is extend blocks for repeat offenders if it wasn't noticed.

Lordganon (talk) 07:44, May 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear, I was worried I went overboard. I recalled you gave a two-week block for a second offense, so I went with that. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 21:15, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

A week or two, depending on the offense. This one would be a two-week, for sure. Lordganon (talk) 11:51, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Problem with "Night of the Living Alternate History"?
I just received a message from G greg e, which states that two users (I believe Lord Finnius and Harvester360) have joined his map game have placed themselves in his characters.

Sorry to say, but I know nothing about map games, so I don't believe I am the right person for this issue. Though what I believe he is concerned about is that these two may be the same person (due to the similar edits).

Not too sure what to make of this. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:00, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Taken care of. Lordganon (talk) 14:06, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Maruku2009
Apparently he's done it before, now he is doing it again. He's annoying people in general and commenting about how Video game ATLs are not proper ATLs. Could this please be looked into? Me'n Scraw'n DocEv talked to him about it and he says we are harassing him. Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:29, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Ya beat me to it.

22:54, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

He also put Pepin's Venice up for adoption without LurkerLordB's permission (though Imp has reverted that back now).

Doctor Evulz (talk) 23:04, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've noticed that a lot of trolling and vandalism has recently emerged from a user named Maruku2009. He appears to be editing the timelines of other people, and putting them up for adoption. He also appears to have a hatred of video games, claiming they're not a part of history, as seen on this forum post: . Thought I'd bring this to your attention so that the proper authorities can deal with him/her.
 * Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 00:43, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Seems like harassment to me. Since LG has already blocked him before, I upped it and have blocked him for a week. Also, it appears that he didn't put Pepin's Venice for adoption (Lurker did that himself in 2011). I have also reverted that page to the version prior to his edits. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:06, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Extended his block to a month - the number of types of problems warrants it, I think.

Nuke is right - Lurk put that up for adoption himself.

I actually think that he just likes video games to the point where he thinks it "wrong" to "mess" with them in that manner. The guy seems to have founded a few such wikis, even.

Lordganon (talk) 10:32, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

wiki contributer 85.164.111.101
i dont think a title like Eyad likes cock is allowed  DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 19:54, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

And the page just says he is a gay f***ing f*gg*tt Local (talk)

can someone ban him and delete it DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 20:11, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

It's currently been added for deletion. Mscoree (talk) 00:44, April 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have removed the article and have banned the user for a week. If he continues afterwards, we'll block him longer. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:58, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Potential sockpuppets?
Seeing that recent nomination for Mscoree to be a constable editor, I looked at the nominators profiles as I hadn't seen them before. Based on their profiles I found the following:
 * Edboy452: Edits - 322 ~ Joined Wiki on March 29, 2013
 * RazorFangZ14: Edits - 40 ~ Joined Wiki on March 28, 2013
 * NickTEHbau5: Edits - 7 ~ Joined Wiki on March 29, 2013
 * Jdplayer10: Edits - 11 ~ Joined Wiki on March 29, 2013

There limited edits have been almost entirely to the Night of the Living Alternate History‎ too.

Hence I think they may be sockpuppets, but they do have slightly different "My favourite wikis" sections. While they all use Alt. Hist. Wiki, they do differ slightly in favourite wikis, so perhaps they're just friends from these other wikis. Anyway the favourite wiki distribution is as follows:
 * Alternative History: Edboy452, RazorFangZ14, NickTEHbau5 & Jdplayer10
 * GeekCraft Wiki: Edboy452 & NickTEHbau5
 * Therealzombieroleplay Wiki: RazorFangZ14 & NickTEHbau5
 * Future: Edboy452

Anyone who plays that map game know how these players regularly interact in game? Over-friendliness between them would be another indicator that they're sockpuppets. I'm looking at Crim, Yank, Kogasa or Imp as you guys are TSPTF & play the game.

They may just know each other in real life or from other wikis, but I still find this situation suspicious regardless. I think further investigation is required. Ip check 'em? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:59, April 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * I just joined a turn ago, I have no indication on this matter. Sorry, Von. [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:26, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sent them a note before I even saw this, lol. Should get a response Monday or Tuesday. Lordganon (talk) 03:11, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

I know these people from other wikis and such. Them, and I others, I believe, are on my campus, and therefore have the same IP's sometimes. All of these players have however posted from different IP's in the past. Mscoree (talk) 20:57, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

As I said on the NotLAH talk page, the following people are people I know or are on my campus. For the most part these people have all posted from separate IP's before.
 * Mscoree
 * Geekman7473
 * Ayernam
 * UDie2day
 * Edboy452
 * RazorFangZ14
 * NickTEHbau5
 * JDplayer10
 * Daultz
 * Tr0llis
 * This IP: 173.72.110.90

Mscoree (talk) 01:57, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
I have reason to suspect that these two users are sockpuppets. I believe that Alexlee8991 may be controlling Allenrobinson. He has currently five edits, all of which on Night of the Living Alternate History, and all his edits appear to be in Alexlee's favor. After war broke out between Chine (Alexlee) and Tibet, Allenrobinson joined and has basically surrendered to the Chinese for no reason. Other than that he has few turns. If an admin could check their IP that would be much appreciated. Mscoree (talk) 12:45, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Request sent to wikia. Lordganon (talk) 04:20, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia confirms them to be the same IP. Both accounts have now been blocked for sockpuppeting, never to return. Lordganon (talk) 11:10, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if Ninjasvswarriors is also related to Alexlee8991. Ninjasvswarriors joined the Althistory Wiki one day after Alexlee8991 was banned, has rather similar editing habits and just revised an article created by the latter. --NFSreloaded (talk) 13:50, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Timelines (XXX)
After a few months, I have, I think, finally cleaned up all the Timelines (XXX)s besides the ones like Timelines (Superpowers) that are part of a specific ATL. Here's the list of all the cleaned out ones:
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I remember WWI and WWII took an especially long time lol. But anyways, are there any I missed? I can't find any, but still...

Thanks. PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 14:05, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

I think that's all of the ones with categories. Should I run across more - and I bet there are some without the categories actually "made" - I'll deal with them. Good Work, Pita. Lordganon (talk) 14:25, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad I could help. If I stumble across any others I'll clean them up too. Looks like Timeline Category Cleanup Project is finished. PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 21:10, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Jontiben2
I have informed Jontiben2 about not adding duplications. Today he uploaded two duplicates (making this his second offense). I noted him about this (giving him the correct file links). He appears to have ignored my warnings and re-uploaded both files. I have blocked him for 24 hours. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 21:48, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Emperor Romanus
I have received word from several people that Emperor Romanus is sockpuppeting as User:Harvester360 and User:Lord Finnius. These three have also had very similar editing habits, with Finnius and Harvestor joining to aid Romanus in NotLAH, and when Romanus quit, they did too. He also has apparently used these accounts on the Map Game wiki and the Ultimate Map Game wiki. Mscoree (talk) 21:28, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Any other proof? Lordganon (talk) 09:53, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Redirects
I have a question for an administrators or moderators on this site. On this page's infobox, when you click on king it automatically names the page incorrectly. I renamed the page correctly, and filled the page with information, only to have it deleted. I asked Lordganon for an explanation and help on correctly renaming/redirecting the page, but he instead ignored my several messages and kept deleting the pages. Finally he responded by temporarily banning me. I don't want my pages to be deleted, and I don't want to be banned, so I now ask here, what is the correct way to fix this? Mscoree (talk) 14:31, July 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * From what I have been able to deduced, it appears to be two minor syntax errors. The template NationInfo has a complex code to make it easier for new users to use.


 * The first is that you wrote the wrong timeline. You wrote "Battle for Earth Strikes Back! (Map Game)," while the timeline you want is "(Battle for Earth: Prime)." Because of the coding this infobox uses, it marked any redirects within the infobox as the timeline you wrote (not the one you wanted).


 * The second error is that you labeled the common name of your country as "Meridian," while the page you want clearly calls it "Meridian Consul."


 * In short, you got "List of Kings of Meridian (Battle for Earth Strikes Back! (Map Game))" and not "List of Kings of the Meridian Consul (Battle for Earth: Prime)." Luckily, there is a simple way to fix this, and I will fix it for you (so it should be solved by the time you read this).


 * As for the tiff you and LG are getting into, the complexity of your timeline and the use of distinctive naming differences between your main page and the subsequent ones will lead to more issues in the long run. The primary purpose for a redirect is to redirect a common alternative to the correct page, not to solve an issue that (from the looks of it) violates site rules. You and LG will have to come to a conclusion soon, and negativity will not go anywhere. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:49, July 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with Nuke on this one, mate. [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:56, July 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright thanks for the claification. I'll try to do this in the future. Mscoree (talk) 04:30, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal
The Anonyimous Contributor  72.64.67.92 has vandalised several pages. I have reverted some (Sorry if I'm not supposed to) but they might have done more Local (talk)

They wrote this: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Easternized_World?oldid=770809

This person also vandalized a few of the Two Americas timeline.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 20:29, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought I got those Local (talk)

His page says he is blocked, so how is he posting Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 20:31, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine, I fixed them. And yes, I think you can undo edits by vandals, unless I am mistaken. Not too sure on the blocked thing...

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 20:32, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

No, no. Seiga just blocked him. :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:34, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Is it normal that non admins can revert edits? Local (talk)

I just did it again, it wasn't a fluke, why is that possible? Local (talk)


 * I'm sure LG will give him a permanent block when he gets here, nothing but a vandal. As to Local, thank you for helping out. As far as I am aware of, it shouldn't be anything but helpful to revert vandalized pages (grammatical corrections are also welcomed). The only think you can't do is vandalize (pretty straight forward) or expand on a page without the approval of the caretaker.


 * As for whether it is normal that non-admins do admin-esque work, I can't say. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I certainly wouldn't frown on it. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:55, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Everyone can undo, but rollbacks/admins/bureaucrats can rollback, skipping the editing page.
 * 05:06, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Alternate History Memes??
Does anybody know the purpose of "Alternate History Memes"? This is not a meme site, and they dozens of files recently uploaded seem to serve no purpose aside from being memes.

Given the broadness used by Mscoree and OreoToast555 for the page in question, and the fact that they seem to show no present purpose, I would like to propose the deletion of this page and the many uploads related to it. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:25, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

We could rename it to NotLAH memes, as it is essentially only notlah  OreoToast555(Talk) 04:31, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

These pictures are a funny explanation of the history of the NotLAH map game. These simple sentences chronicle the history, blood, sweat, and tears, and even, the very souls of the people involved. Where were you on the day of the Sealand Tea Party? An event of such magnitude, it started a near global war. What about the 11 September 1979 attacks on the Russian airport? These pictures explain what it was like. These pictures look through the ancient looking glass, and into the spirit of humanity itself. These are the voyages of the NotLAH enterprise. To boldly meme where no one has gone before. Mscoree (talk) 04:34, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

and you noticed he is STILL UPLOADING THEM after being asked not to  Wingman1 04:48, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

These memes are all in good fun. Please don't take offense to any of them. Mscoree (talk) 04:49, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

You was asked very nicely to stop, you are risking a block or a ban! Wingman1 04:52, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Just make it part of the NotLAH universe.

04:54, July 8, 2013 (UTC)