User talk:Lordganon



Mitro 03:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Archive

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Lieutenant in the TSPTF. I would like to spend sometime discussing those powers:


 * You should now notice a red button at the top of every article with the word "Delete". You can use this to delete articles, obviously. Use this power sparingly and always stay within the framework of the Deletion Policy. The policy itself was passed with little discussion, so if you have any suggestions or comments regarding it I would be glad to hear it.
 * You can also block users from editing. This can be done by clicking on the History page for articles or the Contributions tab on editor's user pages. Again, use this sparingly. This is our most destructive tool. We don't have a policy on this, but there is a general custom that has been followed: always assume good faith with edits (unless obviously vandalism), warn before blocking (try using the three strikes approach) and start with short block durations for first time offendors. Generally other administrators will not interfere with your decisions regarding blocks, as long as it appears fair on its face. Permanent blocks, however, must be brought before the TSPTF as a whole and will only be confirmed if there is a 2/3 approval.
 * You will also notice a button on the top of every article that says "Protect". With this you can prevent certain people from editing a single article. The first level prevents anons and new users from editing an article. The second level limits editing only to administrators. Use this to prevent excessive vanadalism or to prevent edit wars between users.
 * There are other obscure powers that are not used often. If you have any questions on those or the ones I mentioned above, feel free to ask me.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck. Sorry for not doing this sooner, but I just got back from my honeymoon and I am trying to get my life back in order. Mitro 21:33, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Lordganon, on becoming a Lieutenant!BrianD 21:45, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

I did actually. We went on a cruise to Cozumel and Costa Maya over New Years. I got to celebrate the start of 2011 while on a ship! Mitro 19:23, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

A Thank You From A Friend
I've always appreciated the assistance with categorizing my pages (I'm a bit scatterbrained sometimes and forget to do these things properly) but I never realized you were such a fan of the Napoleon's World TL until I spotted your generous nomination on the Awards page. It's an honor to have loyal readers such as yourself, Mister Sheen and Tbguy (and enthusiastic contributors such as Yank) who enjoy my work. Thank you so much for the nomination (though I can't, in good conscience, vote for my TL over 1983: Doomsday). If you ever have ideas you want to pitch me for NW, don't hesitate, I'm always pumped to hear suggestions.

KingSweden 07:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you like it. You know, the war itself I've wrapped up, I'm just touching up on the aftermath bits.

Featured this month!

KingSweden 21:30, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Doomsday
I think I'll stick with the Kerr Republic. I might try making other pages, but I'd like to create a survivor state in a place I know.

CrimsonAssassin 19:10, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The Ancient and the New
Hey I've been noticing that you've been adding all the categories on my new timeline The Ancient and the New.\

Thanks for doing that.

What do you think of it so far? Does it interest you?

-Thanks

Flagman Flagmania 03:38, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Anon "68"
I am not sure what this anonymous user is up to, but placing information on obsolete articles seems a benign enough activity. I would not agree that such would amount to "vandalism." I warned him to leave active articles alone, for messing with the content of canon is clearly improper and CAN be considered vandalism in many cases. If "68" takes off the 'obsolete' tag, that would be disruptive and certainly vandalism (or we would have to move in block him for such actions). Likewise if he added such a tag to an active article without following established protocol.

Having said that, since this user seems to be determined to stay "anonymous" (though the writer seems to be the same, and thus is 'known' to us), it may be prudent to initiate a block on this IP. If he then found himself unable to "contribute" on our wiki, he might seek to co-operate and play by the rules. SouthWriter 02:23, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reverted edit to Rhodope
May I ask why you reverted the edit? It was just a small one, putting the opening words in bold-face. Isn't that the standard on all wikis? 18:22, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I was unaware that that element of formatting could change. My bad. 20:13, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * IMO, bolding the subject matter of an article does not look bad. Nevertheless to avoid an unecessary edit war I started a new topic on the main talk page that I hope you check out.  Same goes for you Arma if you see this.  Mitro 20:15, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Lordganon


You are the winner of the 2011 Stirling Award for Best Writer in a Community Timeline in 2010 for your work in 1983: Doomsday. Though you technically won the award a while ago, I officially congratulate you for your achievements and formally present you with this award. Good luck in the next year! Red VS Blue 17:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
Hey LG, as I've seen, you've been able to observe my new article Qu'il Tous and I wanted to know if you want to work with me on it as a joint project. Ownerzmcown 04:40, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hey LG, now that the First Asian War is done, what do you think I should do for the American Civil War, or for any new conflict around this time? Ownerzmcown 11:16, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

So I was thinking that maybe there would be a war of German Unification between Prussia against Austria, Denmark, and the Confederation of the Rhine, what do you think? Ownerzmcown 16:08, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

So what I was thinking was that the Austrians and Prussians would go to war against the Confederation of the Rhine, lose, and result, possibly in the annexation of Prussia, but more likely, with Austria weakened, the Hungarian revolt would succeed in spliting the nation into two pieces. Ownerzmcown 12:56, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Question ?
Who's the owner of North American Union so i can ask if i can adopted it. Alterman09 14:07 January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nouakchott (1983: Doomsday)
I did my research on the subject, and there's a few things you may want to keep in mind when working on the country, should you choose to follow through with it.
 * Economy. The economy of Mauritania before DD was centered around iron ore and fishing.
 * With the de-industrialization of the world, iron would be a weak source of income if at all.
 * Fishing may have been damaged as well; the area could have been affected by radiation in water, which could have killed fish. Radiation from Spain and the UK could have flowed down the Canary islands ocean current into the area. Similarly, the Equatorial counter could bring radiation from Cuba.
 * You should look into seeing who takes control of the Chinguetti oil field, which could bring a lot of income to Mauritania. Keep in mind, however, that this thing was only discovered in the 21st century OTL.
 * Goods. The deep-water port of Nouakchott was only opened in 1986, after doomsday. Lack of food and water would kill off a lot of people, especially the majority living in the slums. Those who survived would undoubtedly be a threat to any government.
 * Poverty. The country would be extremely poor, especially with lack of imports. We could expect it to enter a vicious circle of poverty; nobody wants to trade with it because it's poor, and hence becomes poorer, so on and so forth.

There are my two cents. If you want, we could cooperate on the article. Hope this helps you. 17:06, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's all good. I just wanted to inform you about what's going on over there, and the available resources. 17:20, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

1983: Doomsday
Hey LG, what other places are there left for a new country in 1983: Doomsday? Ownerzmcown 23:57, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF- lieutenancy
Thanks for thinking of me to upgrade from constable to lieutenant, but at the moment i'm happy just being a constable, i dont really have the computer skills needed for the upgrade. thanks anyway--Smoggy80 19:25, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF: Re
Hi Lordganon! Well, this of TSPTF is new for me, just now i read more about this. jeje But, if i can help to the wiki in somehow, i would be glad and honored. What i should do? Regards --Katholico 00:41, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

OK! Thanks very much Lordganon!! :D --Katholico 22:45, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Your Query
I'd have to give it some thought. As a student I'm often very busy with my studies and don't have a ton of time to be combing other people's articles for errors or adding categories or the such, and I'm not SUPER comfortable with a lot of the wikilanguage used in coding and categories and templates and whatnot. HOWEVER, I am very level-headed and good at negotiating, so if the TSPTF needs someone to help settle disputes in edit wars (although now that She-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named seems to be gone, the need for that seems to have dwindled.)

In short, let me think about it. I'm honored by the offer though.

Also, noticed you were Canadian. You might get a kick out of these:

Kialgory

Sahalee

Quad-Cities (Napoleon's World)

KingSweden 05:06, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'll give it some thought. If there's a vacancy, I'd be honored to be nominated and let the rest of the contributors decide by vote, I think it's fairest for them to decide who's going to be combing through their articles haha.

And yes, they are. Had to Russianize some elements of Alaska/Canada (f.ex. Anchorage becomes Aleksandrgrad, Juneau becomes Yunova, etc.) I inflated the populations of Kialgory/Evgenigrad a little bit though since they seem to be a tad bit more habitable than Alaska, and since the Alaskans failed to capture their real prize, OTL Vancouver metro area and Washington state in the Alaskan War.

KingSweden 07:58, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think I have Kialgory a bit bigger since it is RIGHT on the US border, plus it is further south (warmer, right?) but they are the Nos. 1 and 2 cities in Alaska population-wise and economic-wise.

Interesting! Well I still think the proximity of Kialgory to the American border would have a San Diego/Tijuana like effect (or Vancouver, BC's proximity to my own hometown of Seattle). Residents of Montana would likely have work in Kialgory, much like Mexicans in Tijuana work in San Diego, and cross the border regularly into the large city.

KingSweden 06:00, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, if I'm elected by other contributors after being nominated, I'd be honored.

KingSweden 06:38, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

South pole Republic of alaska
I see you are planning to dealte the blog on Republic of alaska in south pole. i am doing my best to put info on its involment in the south pole check ive add that it put a rescerch center on the south pole. (sorry for bad spelling cause am trying to double write)

~
Am sorry abount my edit to the republic of alaska but i just have a few question

(1)if alaska has no point in this timeline why is it their

(2)i thought everyone could edit

(3)are you like a admin?

(The Republic of freedom)
Ok i understand now that i have to ask the maker of the timeline,s first (but i can make my own alt history,s right?) also send my sorry,s to maker of great white pole.(you can dealte the thing on republic of alaska)

(The Republic of freedom)
Ok i understand now that i have to ask the maker of the timeline,s first (but i can make my own alt history,s right?) also send my sorry,s to maker of great white pole.(you can dealte the thing on republic of alaska)

Error
There was an error in the last attempt that I made, so it came out like that. Two duplicates, and I don't know how to delete it.

Age of Darkness
I changed the dates, it wasn't very hard. Is the current version acceptable?

"impossible to happen" is the very definition of quite a few alt hists here. I don't see why "solar storm" is any different from "hitler wins" or "America nukes Russia".

...so you'd be satisfied if I said something to the effect of "Great depression got worse" instead of "solar storm"?Wanderingmagus 16:30, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

States of the United States
Thanks for the corrections. I sort of hurried through with the article. I has so much trouble with the formatting that the spelling and links were secondary. SouthWriter 15:27, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Some Food for Thought on Greece
Sorry, I have a mountain of homework to go and the spine of a 60 year old at nine days from 17, so I can't stay for long ;).
 * I've just completed a unit on Russia in my AP Comparitive Government and Politics and I came across something rather interesting. In the Russian language there are two words for "Russian", one meaning a citizen of the Russian Federation and another for the Russian-ethnicity. With Greece being highly multinational now (you have Greeks, the Tsakonians being encouraged to nationalise, Albanians, Bulgarians, Copts, Arabs, Grikos, and Italians), we Greeks might need to follow suit. Perhaps, once the Monarchy is called into being by the referendum, the state is actually the Roman Empire? Now I know it sounds sickeningly-nationalistic, but at it height Rome was multinational and thus all the ethnicities in this new Kingdom could call themselves "Romans" without fearing Hellenisation. Or, if you'd prefer something else... We Greeks have three words for ourselves: 'Graikoi', 'Ellines', and 'Romaioi'. 'Romanos' fell out of favour during the Revolution because for some reason the Westernised-Nationalists wanted to primarily call on their Archaic-roots (why, I don't know). 'Graikos' fell out fairly recently because I was told that's what the Turks called us. Thus in the modern language, 'Ellinas' has solidified as the word for ourselves. But post foundation of the Monarchy, we could bring one or even both of the words back. 'Romaioi' for ethnic-Greeks like myself and 'Graikoi' or 'Ellines'for citizens of the Kingdom of Greece regardless of ethnicity or religion. Whichever combination-pair you like I'll be happy with.

Mr.Xeight 03:43, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Mr. Ganon, I don't think you understand- the word for Roman wouldn't remind us of a foreign domination because we are Roman. If anything it'd remind others of foreign-domination. Mr.Xeight 22:10, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Games being made category
Why did you remove those games from the Games Being Made category? I wasn’t doing that for points, you know. PitaKang 23:00, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry for the outburst. PitaKang 23:05, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Maps?
this must be embarrising and im problay the only that doest know how to make a map on this wiki...well can u tell how u make a map on the computer?

Alterman09 18:59 February 17,2011 (UTC)

KFC
LG, thanks for adding the infobox on the Kentucky Fried Chicken page! BrianD 00:06, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

My Timeline
I like to say thanks for making some edits on my kaiser,s empire page it be good if you can continue to help and tell me if ive left something out or if i made a mistake. (ow ps ive notice these game map things how do they work?) ~theblackeagle

Deletion
Why did you delete my Hanthawaddy (Principia Moderni) article? I was planning on expanding it when I got the time. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 20:06, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was not deleted, you renamed it to Profile of Hanthawaddy (Principia Moderni). LG was just deleting the redirect.  Mitro 03:52, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

I wrote "Hanthawaddy is a country" or something like that as a filler because I need to work on other TLs before I get back to it to expanding it. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 04:25, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

One's going to be a list of facts and figures for quick and easy reference. The other is an actual article format like Mexico (1983: Doomsday). Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 17:54, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay if you really care, I'll move the data-sheet to my sandbox and keep Hanthawaddy (Principia Moderni). But:
 * If you haven't noticed, I set the standards for that game and I'm trying to promote a move towards real articles. Everyone else created their data sheet after I created mine.
 * The system has been used successfully on Conworlds for maybe two years because it provides easy reference.
 * Everyone else has been using the data-sheet, and they would have to do the same transition that I would. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk)  05:23, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hold on. Show me where it says "redundancy" is a reason for deletion. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 06:06, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ip address
Can you look up user ip addresses? I want to know which one User:Mr.r is using. Mitro 19:27, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I found it. For a second I thought he was Owen (bad spelling/grammar and keeps mentioning him) but his ip is located in the US while all of Owen's have been traced to the UK.  Mitro 19:36, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sadly I do not have a secret way of finding ip addresses, I simply went on to the history of one of his tls and found an ip address that almost exclusively edited his articles. I assumed it was his and was rewarded when I looked through his contributions and noticed he signed a talk page with his user name despite editing as an anon at the time.  I think we have to actually go to wikia to learn the ip address of a logged in user.  Mitro 14:06, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Africa
Hey, I'm wondering what drawing program your using? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 04:52, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

OK. That was my main tool for a couple of years until my X11 broke down. I noticed when you uploaded the Africa map, the resolution went down from 1000x1000 to 600x600, and it got blurry. I was wondering if there was a way to avoid that. You have a Mac, correct? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:08, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it is kinda blurry. I fixed it, and I'm going to upload it soon. If you have a Windows, maybe Paint is better, because there shouldn't be a risk of blurriness. Idk what they've done with it since the old version I'm familiar with, but yeah… Kinda random. Hopefully Gimp doesn't act up in the future. It's sort of a problem on map games, that 80% of uploads by players turn out in lower resolution. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:16, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Uhh thanks for the rudeness. So I made a mistake. Big deal. That took a lot of work, and I fixed the blurriness… Detectivekenny (Info; Talk)  04:54, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Delete
Thanks for telling me, LG. Didn't know until know. By the way, on NationStates I'm making an Althistory Wikia region, if you're on, you can join! The Passcode is Althistory. Thanks! PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 23:30, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Russian Federation Deletion
As I was changing the page to at least fit as a proposal (adding template and changing "description") you add the "delete" template! Actually, there is an open invitation on the Two Am homepage for proposals. I am co-admin for the ALT and it is in total rewrite as of now. Neither Nuke nor I have worked on it in a while, so any "new blood" can't hurt -- as long as it is as a proposal.

The format the anonymous editor used is rather basic, and doesn't take up much space. Nuke and I will look it over and decide whether to use any of the proposed perimeters. At least we have a place holder for when we get around to building the time line again. Thanks for catching the "intrusion" though. If you have any suggestions on how we can improve "Two Americas," please feel free to offer them. SouthWriter 19:45, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

General Questions
Where did you get that picture for your profile from? Bobalugee1940 12:04, March 3, 2011 (UTC) Thanks its a cool pic Bobalugee1940 12:19, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop
Hey man, I'm looking for somebody who is good at Photoshop or graphic design to help me touch up on a sports logo... while most of the logos I've worked on/altered I've been able to fool around with in MS Paint, I've got one that might need some more heavy duty work. I'm trying to touch this bad boy up so that it looks better (Because I think it looks like crap atm). The logo is for a team called the Tacoma Totems, and its a football team.

Here's the logo, let me know if you can help:



I just think it looks pixelated and discolored. Its a cool design but it would look MUCH better if the red was consistently flush throughout and the white background was consistent too.

Also, I noticed something about Spokane on your talk page. I'm from Washington, and I have a hard time imagining that Spokane would not have been a Soviet target. It's a significant regional population center with plenty of commercial and heavy industry and military installations nearby. While as a Seattleite I have a strong distaste for "Spokompton" and the areas around it (especially Pullman... I would write an article about how Washington State University got nuked on Doomsday if it wouldn't be flagged as a wankjob haha) it IS the biggest city between the Puget Sound metro area and Minneapolis. The Russkies would probably have blasted it to bits, especially if they're launching nukes at industrial plants in rural Alabama.

KingSweden 07:30, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wow yes that looks much, much better. Thank you. Good work!

And that is exactly why I don't contribute to 1983:DD. Too many canon debates :P Though I suppose contributors to Napoleon's World feel the same way when I come running to their talk page to demand an explanation as to why they made the egregious changes they did. Not gonna name names...

KingSweden 18:14, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Recent Stub Edits
Well, let me just tell you that I’m not doing those for points, I’m not, so just believe me. I’ve changed. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:57, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I was just worried you might think I was doing those for category pts. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 17:19, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for clarifying. Anyways, it's not that hard! I just open 2 tabs, then click random article for both, and if they're stubs, which they are 60% of the time, then I put it on. I've been doing it so much that I ran into a couple I already put the stub template on, lol. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 18:01, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Spokane area nuke?
Hi, LG, I noticed that recently added a nuclear strike at Fairchild AFB outside of Spokane. I am wondering how this fits in with the established Spokane War (no nukes mentioned in the Spokane War section of the History of Utah article). A small nuke taking out the AFB would definitely add to the probability of the Supremists' rise to power in the area (both in Washington and Idaho/Lincoln). SouthWriter 23:23, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Ok now, Is China taken in the World War III map game?

~Alexander

1983
Finally caved in and contributed again haha. Did you know that I wrote the Pasco Free State stub before NukeVac adopted it and vastly improved upon it? Now its established canon! I feel so accomplished :)

Also, I like the look of the logo. Really well done, thank you again.

KingSweden 19:59, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Also, is there an article on Spokane or the Spokane Wars? All I can find are passing mentions and its hard to contribute to the history of communities in Washington without knowing a lot on those specific events...

KingSweden 20:02, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
Just found a vandal, but in case you guys didn't see/notice it on the TSPTF page, I put it on your talk pages. South Korea (Broken China)Edit Some guy, 72.68.72.32, just deleted the entire thing and replace it with "Lul wut?". PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 23:57, March 6, 2011 (UTC) ===Republic of Watchung (1983: Doomsday)Edit=== Same guy, replaced content with "Victory is Mine!" and {~_~}Can't touch this. PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 23:58, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I was just really annoyed because I thought he was the same guy and just wouldn't quit. Anyways, I won't do it again. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 12:40, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Map Game
Hey LG, I was wandering if you would be willing to help with a Map Game. I know this isn't you speciality,but Pita seems busy. It will be based on 1983:Doomsday,but with two changes,which are the US and Great Britain manging to survive with A LOT fewer losses, and stay superpowers.The main thing I would like help with would be for you to check my Grammer,and help which nations to pick.Let me know when you get this,and thank you!!!!!God Bless the United States of America 03:34, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sei-san
Well, here I am? There's really nothing to post, just to prove it.. NaruKeyblade 06:01, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
Okay. I'll do that next time. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:36, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

SayNoToTheism32
I saw what he did to your user page, and I can say that he's really, really dumb. He changes your page to all that Jew racist shit, then blames you, puts that up for deletion as a "Jimmy Wales"? That's really, really stupid. I really hope he doesn't come back. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:57, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

(copied over from the alt history talk page) LG: my apologies for not seeing it, and deleting it sooner. I would have been upset too. You're right, we need to pay more attention...in my defense, I was probably looking at the wiki during the few minutes I had to spare that day. I wish I had noticed what that jerk was doing. BrianD 02:35, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Doomsday Maps
Hi. I was wondering if we were allowed to use maps such as those on this website as article images in 1983: Doomsday. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Such maps are copywrited and would need proper identification in the very least. It is better to use these for research only, transferring the results to free maps that we can produce by other means. SouthWriter 19:39, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Apologies
opps... sorry about that Alexanders 00:17, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

My apologies...I will not do it again. Batmanary 00:35, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I won't do it again excuse my behaviorAlexanders 03:58, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Brass
LG, you are one of the most active admins on this wiki, and while we do not always agree, I can't think of a better person to promote to the Brass. Technically you could not be allowed to take the job until May, but when that time comes, would you be willing to be nominated for the Brass? Mitro 01:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Doomsday Timeline
Sorry about that. I completely understand your point, and I'll try and be more careful in future. Thanks, --Spamalot360 18:04, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Macau
Okay so here's the situation. So far most of the community seems to agree with the map, which says that Macau owns most of the Pearl River Delta, is canon. However, the owner, User:Arstarpool repeatedly insists that Macau has a much smaller territory span. My intention is to create articles on what exactly happened in each of the bombed cities (Gwongjau, Samjaan, Hong Kong) in the area. However, I'm not sure what's canon, what the creator says or what the community says. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 21:37, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not talking about making Gwongjau into a state. I'm doing one of these. What I am asking is whether canonicity is determined by the community or the owner? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 22:52, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

My map includes claimed areas too. Oerwinde basically approved my map. Being a government map, the map reflects areas that are claimed, but not controlled. The destroyed areas are basically devastated places where people go to get scrap metal. What's around that area is what I'm talking about, where people would probably are on the edge of existence, resorting to criminality and family ties to push forward. If you look at my map here, which is based on a logical 500 kt bomb, you will see that the approximate death threshold (second largest ring) would allow for a quantity of survivors that is worth writing about. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:04, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I'll consider that when I write the articles. But Hong Kong is mostly islands, while the mainland is just FILLED with rivers (see my first map), which would probably spare several inhabitants for various reasons which I need not list. In addition, it is just after the rainy season, so the fires wouldn't burn out of control, and the rivers are full but not destructive. But that's besides the point. What I am asking is: Does Macau control what the map says it controls or what Arstarpool says it controls? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

You bring up a valid point. I did some more research and found a relevant map here. From what I am reading, the radius of fire is roughly equivalent to the lethal zone of 5 psi, or maybe a little more. Using the website I found (which I harmonized with the other "more accurate" one you showed me, and they are basically the same for estimation purposes), I concluded that the 5psi threshold is only about 4.5 mi in diameter, which has about 8 times as large of a burn area as Hiroshima, but is nowhere near to destroying the whole city, although it would definitely destroy the cramped part of it, where fires would spread much more easily. Hiroshima doesn't have as many rivers, either, to halt the fire. There are only a few, most of which are in the city centre. As for climate, Guangzhou is not like India where it is desert for most of the year and then pours with monsoons. Guangzhou rains pretty much year-round, with less from November to January. So the conditions are close perfect. The rivers are high, it's raining steadily but there isn't going to be excessive flooding/erosion.

As for the map. Arstarpool on the subject:
 * "I'm not for drastic size changes so I'd cut it back by 1/3 of how it is on your map."
 * "Sorry Kenny, but I'd appreciate it if you would NOT change the size of Macau and only work on the economics and other asthetic changes."
 * "Kenny, I am going to be stern when I say this but the size of Macau will remain as it was when I created it."

And he is talking about my Macau map, just to clarify, not some other concoction. He clearly wants me to reduce the size somehow but I am not sure what he wants. Also, here's Oerwinde:
 * Well, that makes sense considering how the map is designed.

Thus he approved it. You can ask him if you have any doubts. I appreciate your interest. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:25, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, 25% sounds good.

What I'm trying to say is, I would be delighted to make any necessary changes to the map to go with canon. However, Arstar wants it smaller. You and Oerwinde ultimately want it bigger. Now what? <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 14:26, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that's settled. But if Arstar complains, then it's not my fault. <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 02:24, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Pita from Experts page
LG, Pita MAY be an expert in religion. Just because he doesn't like Islam doesn't mean he cannot be an expert on it. It's like saying that every expert on WW2 is an anti-Semite and sadistic, it is not true.

Besides, he didn't say in his page he was anti-Islam. He said he was interested in TLs with no Islam. There is a difference. Fed (talk) 22:13, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have read those passages from the Koran. They may be exaggerated and out of context when quoted (because it was in an Islamophobic book) but I have read them and they exist.Fed (talk) 00:03, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the article naming I do it by mistake, I will make sure I name them corectly in the futureAlexanders 03:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Possiblity
Hey LG, what do you think of a micro nation centered around New Bern in North Carolina for my 1983DD article?God Bless the United States of America 22:19, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I found the perfect area in Georgia. In Camden county, there is Submarine base, which is now the base for the US Atlantic Submarine Fleet, but back in 1983 it was a small base with no more than 1 or 2 subs there at a time, and was really unknown. That there by gets me my naval base, and also it is in a good position. The nearest nuke was savannah, which is a good distance away, and no one has claimed this area yet. I believe I might try to start something there, unless you think I shouldnt do it. Sorry for my complete butchery of this paragraph, and thanks for everything LG! God Bless the United States of America 00:39, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I know I am starting to get annoying asking questions, so I will try to keep this short.My current idea is this; edenton,colerain,plymouth, williamston,windsor, and hertdford unite and form the Republic of Inner Banks. Pop would be around 45,000-70,000, peat mining,farming, and maybe some other stuff would be the economy, some national guardmen, and maybe a few PT boats for defense, and maybe later they could find a beached naval vessel.How does it sound?God Bless the United States of America 00:23, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I started the article, and I was hoping if you got the chance you could review it.If I have messed up or caused improbability in any way, dont hesitate to change it and let me know. God Bless the United States of America 01:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey LG,

Sorry to bother you again ( If I were you, I would charge me Message Space ), but I wanted to ask you if you could find me some info. If you get the chance, could you try to find out where the USS Albuquerque (SSN-706) was on doomsday? I couldnt not find this, and I was hoping you could. Thanks! God Bless the United States of America 01:40, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

The America debate
Please check out my new article: Second American Revolution (1983: Doomsday) and some of the new debate on the talk page. It is the start of my proposed world event that will, hopefully, redirect the debate going on the main page to something more creative. I want you to participate in this world event in hopes of restoring some cooperation to the timeline. Mitro 19:27, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Aviva, Florida Espanola
So I'm geussing that there is no practicle way to keep the name Jacksonville? Bobalugee1940 01:21, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind I've changed it to Juárez Bobalugee1940 01:32, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Insulting remarks?
You: "You really don't notice when you insult people on here, do you South? I suggest you re-read everything you've responded to me with. And now, you've started more squabbling here too, good job."

1. "First, LG, with all due respect, your rhetoric is breaking the spirit of a young American who happens to be proud of his nation (OTL)."

This is the first "insult" you called me on. I say "with all due respect" and then defend GB. How is that an insult to you?

I gave you a chance to explain when I apologized saying: "To LG, I did not miss what you said. I do not appreciate being talked down to -- especially in threatening overtones. If you perceive my attitude as being insulting, I certainly did not mean it to be."

Please, where have I insulted you?

2. "I am not sure how to take you, LG. You seem to have an agenda that you want to push on the rest of us. Though I respect your knowledge of history, it does not follow that your logic and reasoning is superior to mine."

Okay, so I question your agenda? I couch it in the language of my perception. I defend my on logic against yours. How is that an insult? --

3. "This time line changed direction months before you joined the team, LG, and the state of the survival of the North American continent has taken a turn toward the optimistic."

This is a statement of my opinion of the direction of the time line (away from the total destruction assumed earlier). There is no insult there.

Verbal gymnastics?

You: "South, what have I told you about being insulting?"

Me: "What place do you have to "tell [me] about" anything? You are not my boss and certainly not my parent. You are not even my elder (either chronologically or on this wiki)."

You: "I did not tell you anything. That's your phrase, and your actions, not mine. "

LG, the word "told" is the past tense of "to tell" my paraphrase replaced the pt with the infinitive and "you" with "me."

You continue to speak as if you have some authority over me, making "statements" which sound all the world like threats. I have not called you names or even questioned your intelligence. All I have done is try to defend myself against your charges concerning MY intelligence.

Once, you seemed to have thrown your hands up and said you were "beating a dead horse." I took it that you were tired of trying to make a point that wasn't being listened to. I hope I am right there. You have, in these two or three strings, attacked my integrity and referred to my ideas as being silly and nonsense. I have answered civilly and been charged with insulting you. You have chosen to make these charges in open forum instead of on the my more "private" talk page. I am on the verge of discussing this with the "brass" as inappropriate, but would rather you sit down, chill out, and reconsider your dogmatism. We can disagree, but we don't have to be disagreeable. SouthWriter 15:38, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Truce?
"South, you are now contradicting yourself with the explorers - none of that discussion, by your admission, is valid, but you brought it up anyways. I'm well aware of your work in the area, and that's not the optimistic part. Not going to explain why you're too optimistic again here. New Bern is not listed as a surviving community on the NC article, which is very explicit about what is there you advocate changing that, which is messing with canon."

The explorers that found Darien and Elizabeth City could not thoroughly explore the coast - nor did the article that mentioned them claim as such. The article, written early on and with not a whole lot of discussion, was meant to be an overview of what was known so far.

I just noticed your remarks about New Bern being close enough to be affected by the nukes down stream, and you made a good point. Unfortunately, I had missed that in reading through your note earlier and contradicted you. I misspoke, as it were, having not checked the known strikes first. However, the article on Blue Ridge's exploration makes no claim to an exhaustive search. It lists two clusters of towns and a few others under the flight path of the search plane(s). New Bern is not mentioned because New Bern was not spotted. It is south of the search pattern. In the end, I concurred with you, recommending that Washington be featured as the "capital" (not in so many words) of the new "state." No list is exhaustive, LG, and an argument from silence is no argument at all. I did not "mess with canon" when I suggested New Bern would work well, and you were wrong to accuse me of such.

If your statement of my "over optimism" is about New Bern, I stand corrected. The town would probably be, as you say, "some sort of survival thing." If however, you are referring to my take on USA expansion (and the movement that Mitro is creating), then my opinion is as valid as yours, and optimists have "ruled" the time line for over a year (as far as North America is concerned anyway). Your insistence that the majority of the states are still in 19th century conditions is too pessimistic given the resources that many of the states had. Many articles list communications being restored shortly after the turn of the century and before the founding of the LoN. Transportation, as well, would be restored to a large extent before the LoN began exploring -- and surely by the present. SouthWriter 20:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

hi
Hello! -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 12:00, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hey why did you delete my sign up page?152.26.20.29 14:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind ..... i understand, thank you! Alexanders 14:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Revisiting the Idea
Hey LG, I just wanted to ask, since you said to revisit this idea in the spring, what are your thoughts now on the Macedonia vs. Serbia war idea? Ownerzmcown 22:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Invitation
LG

I just started my own wiki, and thought I would give you a Invitation to come over. It is called Divergent History Wiki, so come on over when you get the chance. God Bless the United States of America 07:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I am not angry at anyone. Yes, I did base if off DD, but I changed it enough to be considered its own thing. I did not advertise, I wa strying to be nice and give you guys a invitation to see it. I am not trying to cause drama. How is it illegal when the official wiki statement is "Text on Wikia sites is available under a free content license, meaning the information you put on the wiki can be copied and reused by anyone." this is on the term of use, so I don't see how I could get in trouble for it. Also, I don't see how it is fair that you would ban because of recent outburst with another editor, especially considering the offense was on accident and I was trying to be nice. God Bless the United States of America 08:08, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

How about your ideas on my From Dixie to World and War?Alexanders 15:12, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the insight, I will try to imrpove the mechanics of this article, would you be willing to help me with this?Alexanders 15:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well thanks for any help you do give,

Alexanders 15:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
I appreciate your offer and I think I could agree to a Constable position (I'm not old enough IRL for being a Lieutenant) Fed (talk) 15:43, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Random
This is trivial, but congrats, LG, you're the second person on this Wiki to pass the 10k mark for editing! PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Your Attention, Please
So I run around another site, Alternate History.Com and I noticed someone's uchronie up here copied 1983:DD exactly. I always look up the state of Greece in TLs I peruse, and once I noticed that the capital of Greece was "New Athens, Skyros" I dug deeper and every state we have he took. Perhaps you might want to make an account over there and complain? The link is http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/private.php. Oh, and how have you been? Mr.Xeight 02:48, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ach, I just realised, people who aren't members can't see articles in certain categories, and that article was in one of the categories. I'll have to follow up on my own then next weekend (junior-prom is this Saturday, blah!), but I'll definitely tell you the results.

I'll probably be gone forever the day a certain man who shall remain unnamed leaves, but until then... :D

I do need to get back to work, but I can give a yes or no answer and some comments. Mr.Xeight 03:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Adoption
The reason that I asked both of them is that one of them did a lot of editing and the other only made it so I thought that perhaps the first one was his old computer and the second one was his new one. Bobalugee1940 04:30, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for telling me. I'm a little busy right now, so I'll answer them as soon as I can. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 20:41, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Back talking about articles?
If you have a probelm with my work you can tell me about it, you don't have to go snikering to Nuclear Vacum about it, and I have been fixing them anywayAlexanders 16:21, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to admit that your seneky, I already know....Alexanders 00:30, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I went overbored I'm sorry, I overeacted excuse me once againAlexanders 15:18, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Need some help with Russian Rise
Thanks for pinting it out. Sorry. I forget trivial things like that. Thanks for doing it for me.

By the way, could you give me some feedback on Russian Rise. I could really use it. And if its not too much could you ccontribute to it, but please talk to me first.

I noticed that a lot of althists here have a lot of anti-Russian semtiment in it. And some of it aren't exactly plausible, such as 5000 Swedes tearing up 50,000 Russians and many other things. So I just decided it would only be fair to place a plausible and feasible althist which sees the Russian rise to power.

have it ur way. ur canadian. so u would probably want to see a "Canadian Rise" althistory. I'm Russian, and a pretty damn patriotic one at that, so i prefer to see my country become a world power.

As for the battle, i was just adding a little emphasis. LOL.

A quick question
I know I am still working on the Beatles project, but I would like to inquire about a future project. The Doomsday article for Israel says that the city of Tel Aviv was heavily damaged by both the detonation and a tsunami generated by the explosion of a warhead. So should I assume that Simon and Garfunkel who were performing a world wide reunion tour there were killed? I recieved my info about the location of the duo from http://www.paul-simon.info/

Jer1818 02:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Europe Game
Why did you undo my edits?

1983 Dooms Day "edits"
Sorry about that I was surfing the web and I came back to this site and thought "Hey, I might as well get a badge while I'm on here." so I made minor, yet stupid edits to 1983DD. Sorry 'bout that won't happen again. (I've been getting non-responces whenever I try to write on South Writer's wall so could you pass this along to him) Bobalugee1940 15:06, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Central World
Hi, I was wondering if you want to revive along me and other users Central World. VENEZUELA 23:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Scramble for Africa
I think I accidently messed up the page. I was editing 1837, and it said there was a edit conflict, I wasnt sure what to do, so I published mine anyway. I checked the page afterwords to see what happen, and now it is all messed up. I am sorry, do you think you could undo my edit because it wont let me. God Bless the United States of America 15:23, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I am talking about SEAC recruting people from the Baltic Russian Territories, as for in game, this is Russian Imperialism. God Bless the United States of America 20:55, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I seriously thought it was government run, but private or not, Russia wants this company to stay out of its zone of Influence, or it will hold the Swedish Government for it. As for the issue you brought up, wars have been fought for less. We just want our lands free of foreign actions :) God Bless the United States of America 21:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

LG, I respect you, but I think you are abusing your powers on this. I could understand it if violated site/ wiki rules, or was completely impossible, but its not. I only said that Russia will hold Swedon accountable over this if it didnt get the SEAC in line and out of Russian Land. For you to change the post for no good reason is absurd. Like I said, many wars have been fought between nations over the use of companies. No reason why it cant happen in the 1800s when many of these conflicts occured. Just because you dont think its right doesnt give you the right to remove it. Like I said, I respect you, but this isnt right.God Bless the United States of America 21:45, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

What in the World are you talking about?

You listed no truth or reasons, you just said Russia shouldnt blame swedon. As soon as I confronted you over this you said end of discussion, obviously you are abusing your powers now. This is not fair in the slightestGod Bless the United States of America 21:58, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I Need Help
Hi Lordganon, first of all why are you afraid of uniting to Central World, and second, I'm writing a novel than maybe I will publish and is an alternate history in 1937 with a more technological world with different nations, and some point of the story Germany tries to do a terrorist attack at the Paris expo, with a new type of Japanese missile, so the Americans and French manage to stop it, and the Americans use one of the missiles against a base with that missiles in Germany, so the Germans believe that the Japanese also sold the missiles to the Americans, so they broke relations, after the end of the book I want to explain what happen after in 1938, what I have plan is the following, In Europe: Nazi Germany invades France after many tensions, and after a group of war declarations make's Germany and Allies conquer ALL Europe except Spain, Portugal, and Scotland and England, so the French retreat to the French zone of UK and to Scotland while the British stay at the motherland, so now's the thing USA most enter the war some way (possibly Pearl Harbor) and after a D-day in Denmark and the Baltic and a French one to Normandy, and the manage to liberate Europe, and because this technology Operation Barbarossa continue, so the Americans enter to Leningrad, but Stalin's paranoia believing that capitalism will conquer the Red Land attack the Americans and after Germany is defeated the Allies enter USSR and with a normal and a social war manage to end the red giant, making them to retreat to Siberia and create some kind of small Soviet Union, so now What do you think could have happen in Asia, would the Japanese do the attack at Pearl Harbor or what? also China is a communist state, and all the British colonies in Asia are French except Malaysia and Singapore, Regards VENEZUELA 21:15, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

User Rights
Re Owner: Done. I should probably go through the process of upping you to Brass too, I know Mitro said May, but I've been really distracted lately with my family getting a bad case of the flu and work getting busier. Me being the only Brass doesn't really make much sense.Oerwinde 10:48, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Courland & potential Lithuanian Surivor State
Thank you for your contributions to Courland so far. They've been a great help to me.

I've got an idea for the Lithuanian survivor state. I plotted the targets you gave me on a map of Lithuania and found that the region of Samogita was (relatively) free of targets, so I decided to make the (yet-to-be-created) article a sucessor to the orginal Duchy of Samogita. I have some questions for you: --Yank 17:13, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Can I get away with giving Samogita a portion of the Lithuania Minor region (namely the former Kaliningrad Obast) If so how big can that portion be?
 * 2) Will you asist me with article as well?

I'll drop the Kaliningrad issue. It was just an idea. Anyway, the reason why I chose Samogita is because it had a flag on Wikipedia. Anyway, can you help me and give me some names of people who could be chosen as the new Dukes of Courland and Samogita.

--Yank 17:46, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

What if Courland and Samogita used the Bermudan method of selecting a monarch? In Bermuda (a nation with no local monarchs in its history) the people made a popular leader King after he left office. This method would probably be more plausible that searching for an heir to royal lines that haven't existed for centuries. And could you help me by providing population estimates and a solid area for the nation?

--Yank 23:22, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

The problem with an imported monarch for either nation is distance. Is it even plausible for any of these royals to even get to Courland/Samogita? And if so, then who stands the better chance?

--Yank 15:56, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Could you help me with the Courland article? I can't find information on the local economy.

Yank 00:20, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Could you review what I added to the Courland article and critique it?

Yank 23:56, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

My idea for the Duke is that he is a distant relative of one of the Dukes, and that he adopted the name of th Duke that presided over Courland's height of power. Anyway, what do you think of the rest of the article?

Yank 02:39, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

What do you think of the idea of Courland being prosperous economically? I got the idea from reading that Ventspils was once an important trading centre on the Baltic back in the day. I think that there is potential for history to repeat itself. What do you think?

Yank 18:41, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Surprise me. I'd really like you contributions to the article. Personally I think it was a distant relative of one of the Dukes who comes foreward.

Yank 21:14, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

For all we know he was a guy who claimed to be the Duke's decendant, but really wasen't. The geneology records were probably destroyed when Riga was.

Yank 01:35, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Can you help me fill out Lithuania's stats? I need help with the population, area and cities. I decided I like the "Grand Duchy of Lithuania" name better.

Yank 03:17, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Quick Q and An Apology
I have a question about template Infoboxes... Is there a good one for Sports franchises/clubs? I tried copy/pasting one from Wikipedia (as is apparently doable with some templates, i.e. election Infoboxes) but this wiki rejected the one I lifted from Wikipedia. You seem like a template-capable guy, so I figured I'd come to you first. I was also wondering how to make TL-specific templates for Napoleon's World, i.e. a proposal template so that more users can add stuff to the TL or one of those boxes they have at hte bottom of all the Great White South pages.

Also, I want to apologize for not being more productive on the TSPTF. I know you nominated me and I haven't really lived up to my responsibilities lately, I've been swamped with schoolwork and my main focus is, as always, Napoleon's World. I've done a few things here and there but not nearly as much as I should.

KingSweden 19:57, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can't edit a page in my timeline
Hi, I'm having problems with one of my pages. Its the Flags & Banners page of my timeline (Welsh History Post Glyndwr). Every time I try to edit the page all I get is increased spaces between the old text and no sign of the new text that I've added. Any chance you can have a look and see whats happening. I appear to be able to edit my other pages but not that one. Cheers Rivendell78 16:26, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

the upcoming CA - Ur Alba war
I know that the military of Ur Alba are hopelessly outnumbered by the CA forces, but thats my plan. The CA will give the military of Ur Alba a good arsekicking, this will lead to a popular uprising (as ATL Tunisia and Egypt) leading to regime change to a more democratic style of government.--Smoggy80 17:51, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

i've added this section to the Ur Alba page, have a look and see what you think, once you've given the ok i'll add it to the DD news page and if you want i'd edit the section on the CA page relating to this military action

19th April 2011

One of the main military leaders Johnathan MacDonald has announced that 12 divisions of Ur Alba Infantry as well as 3 units of Heavy Caverlary, 3 units of Light Caverlary and 4 units of Special Service Infantry (making a total of 8600 men) have taken up station near the border with the Celtic Alliance territory around the town of Stranraer with the intention of reclaiming the area for the Scottish homeland from the 'Imperialistic Celts' peacefully and with as little disruption to locals as possible.

Chairman Macintire has already sent messengers to the leadership of the town of Stranraer asking for the town and surrounding territories to vote on a referendum on joining Ur Alba and leaving the Celtic Alliance.

In order for the decision of the town of Stranraer to be made more quickly four vessels of the Ur Alba navy have set up station to discourage the Celtic Alliance Navy for interfering in what it believes is effectivly a Scottish matter

Celtic Response

An official Celtic Alliance statement has yet to be announced, however news has been filtering out of the territory of Stranraer. Many people are hoping that if they vote in the referendum not to leave the Celtic Alliance that the military of Ur Alba may back down, but many believe that even if the vote goes that way that the leadership of Ur Alba will not listen and will try and invade. If this happens the majority of the population believe it will be a short battle with Ur Alba severely outmanned and outgunned by the Alliance military.

With the port effectivley being blockaded by the Ur Alba Navy many local families are making their way to smaller bays in hopes that they can be evacuated before military action begins.

--Smoggy80 17:51, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

It is true that the CA military is vastly superior to the Ur Alba military, but I don't think that they would attack another nation pretty much unprovoked, being the largest nation closest to Ur Alba I would expect them to try and use peaceful and diplomatic means. However Ur Alba is seriously pushing the CA's buttons for a while so a battle is more than likely

so anyway i've added this to the news page, do you think it is too strongly worded?

20th April, 2011: Celtic Alliance response to Ur Alba military action DUBLIN, Celtic Alliance - In an offical response to the Ur Alba military blockading the Celtic port of Stranraer.

''What the Ur Alba government and military are doing around the territory surrounding the Celtic port of Stranraer effectively is an act of premeditated warmongering, if any Ur Alba troops set foot on Celtic land or attack any vessels attempting to enter the port of Stranraer we will class that as a declaration of war on the Celtic Alliance. Any response to this act will be swift and it will be final, this is a warning to the Chariman Macintire, if your military tries to invade we will destroy it before it threatens any Celtic citizens'' --Smoggy80 16:59, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for renaming the pages. Sorry i keep forgetting!

Nineteenthly 09:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Arstarpool
Hi LG. I read that Arstar seems to have given you control over his articles. Can I just clarify - has he quit, or just taking a wikibreak? Thanks. Fegaxeyl 17:51, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that. Do you have any idea how long it'll last? Fegaxeyl 20:46, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. You're right, it is about the request. I should really bring it up with the other Brit editors first, though, before we make any major plans. Fegaxeyl 09:57, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
So what I think would happen would be Prussia would become a much more militarily pushy country by this point in time, the French would have to help the Confederation to build up a single military, and the wars would be between Prussia and Austria against the Confederation, end in a draw and France would negotiate a peace of some kind, leading eventually to a Hungarian revolt. Ownerzmcown 19:31, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

So now that the Rhineland War is over what is next in Qu'il Tous ? Ownerzmcown 01:11, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

So what I was thinking was that we should probably work on the nation articles as a kind of a split equally thing, what country's would you be interested in doing? Ownerzmcown 01:26, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I was thinking of developing in South America and maybe in East Asia, the rest is yours for the moment if you want. Ownerzmcown 02:26, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

So I was thinking of three wars, one between two native powers in Africa as a proxy war between France and Britain, one between the new Japanese Empire against the Qing dynasty in China, and the Second Mexican-American War. The idea for the Second Mexican-American War would be in 1880's or 1890's revolutionaries in Mexico would take over the government, usurp the emperor, and establish a socialist military-ruled government. But the government would also be very for the retaking of Mexican provinces lost in the first war, and go to war with the United States, lose, and they would give up another ring of northern Mexican provinces. And the Yucatan would be involved somewhere in there, and would either become a client republic of the US or a US territory. Ownerzmcown 17:09, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I was thinking maybe a war over Madagascar or the Boer states between France and Britain would work, thoughts? Ownerzmcown 18:53, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Presidents of Brazil (1983: Doomsday)
Hi Lordganon! I was looking at the articles related to and noticed that last year someone had placed that there were elections in Brazil, but if the presidential term is 4-years (According the history), then the election should has been on 2009 and the inauguration of the new president on January 1, 2010. I think to correct this and add as new president to Dilma Rousseff, what thinks? And... who is in charge of Brazil article? User:HAD? --Katholico 03:48, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

OK! By the way, the death of the presidential candidate Jose Serra is part of the Doomsday canon? --Katholico 16:39, April 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Understood. But, as the elections took place on 2009 (not 2010), i will move this death to this year, ok? Regards :) --Katholico 17:03, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The New Samauri
I was trying to create a World with a large Japanese Empire without a Nazi Vicotry in Europe- but indeed it was a far-flung idea read my article- A History In Short and see if that is a little more plausbile.

pope
I've been asking for over a year for someone, anyone, to add a name of a new pope, i added a suggestion to the vatican's talk page with an idea for a papal name and possible real person to take the papal seat a month ago, and asked for any suggestions, objections etc, none were given, so i changed it as it appeared that no one else was going to, if there are any objections i shall remove my papal name, otherwise will you please leave in on the page.--Smoggy80 17:42, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

FYI
On the Maine 1983:DD page, there was something about the town of Charleston, Maine, being struck by a Soviet nuke. I removed it because the Air Force Base at Charleston was decomissioned in 1980 and turned into a correctional facility run by the state, and because the town has about 1,700 people, I doubted that it would still be a Soviet target after the decomissioning. If this was bad move, let me know and I'll add it again to the list of Maine areas hit by a Soviet nuke. MAINEiac4434 21:40, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion
Hey LG

I believe I have made a mistake. I posted a Photo for an Article I was going to write, and it overwrote one that already existed.Could you please delete it so it does not cause any trouble? Take in note, this was a complete accident and it won't happen again.

God Bless the United States of America 23:03, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, sorry for the trouble.

God Bless the United States of America 23:17, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Siberia
What really frustrates me about 1983: Doomsday is that th LoN allows Siberia to get away with the same thuggish behavior that charecterized the Soviet Union. Why isn't there anyone willing to overide Siberia's constant vetos? As I said before on the SIberia page, Doomsday should have pretty much eliminated Siberia's right to have things their own way. --Yank 00:27, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Scramble for Africa
What do you mean?

"Belgium arrives in West Africa, trying to defeat Spain. Belgium creates a kind of sword, and it becomes a custom for all the Belgium. It is named 'The Dutcher'. It becomes a powerful success, and Belgium is gaining more strength by the minute."

Like that? ZL123 15:42, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rise of the North
I'm sorry if you feel that I have stolen your work for use in my TL. It was simply my intention to create a separate universe of sorts using what I know of the nations in 1983:Doomsday and create something new. If you want, I will acknowledge all users involved in the 1983: Doomsday Project on my thread for their work in your Timeline. -Ming777 AKA MikeLima777 16:53, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Scary Events
LG, I desperately need your help.

After a recent family dinner where I talked about what I do on here, my mother had a idea.She thought it would be a good idea if my Older Brother and herself use my account from time to time, so that they could write their own articles.I am worried about this is because I am afraid of getting banned for having multiple people using my account.I am also worried because my Mother is stubborn as a Ox, while my Brother is obnoxious and likes to get me in trouble.Please tell me this is a bannable offense, so that I can use that to change my mother's mind.If it's not, then God help us all.

God Bless the United States of America 01:49, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Scramble for Africa
Did you even bother to read what I added to Scramble for Africa?

ZL123 09:57, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Scramble for Africa
Okay, I will.

I edited it, plausible enough?

What do you mean? ZL123 11:49, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

English General Election
On May 1st, the Republic of England in Napoleon's World will host its general election. The candidates are Hugh Grant of the Whig Party, and Jack Davenport of Labour. Which party should win?

KingSweden 21:07, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems to be the consensus. And it makes sense in context, too.

BTW, speaking of elections, how do I get those F---in' election infoboxes to work??? Arghhhh.

KingSweden 04:05, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Good Work
I see you have been catgerozing my pages... I forget to this alot thanks for the help,

and wondering....

Do you think it is realistic in a Cold-War Europe could have allied with the Soviet Union, if the Soviet Union had moderated in the late 50's and early 60's and became less extreme? Alexanders 02:54, April 27, 2011 (UTC) It is an idea for my New Samuari Article

It Is Done
Alaskan War (Napoleon's World), your self-proclaimed favorite page from the TL, is at last complete.

KingSweden 04:33, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

"El Presidente" Map Game
Sorry, I won't do it again. I was just informing that the game is finally starting after weeks of inactivity. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Enter Name 12:14, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

USSR's map
Hey LG, I'd like to ask for a favour, if that is ok with you. I was wondering if you would be willing to create a new map for Siberia after the new expansion takes place and is finished somewhere between early May-late June. I'm still sort of leaning towards a push in the direction of the north, but I was hoping to do one towards the south, around five to six months after the one in the north. I decided on this after I looked at Kazakhstan more thoroughly and realized that the USSR didn't have to a large area of Kazakhstan to reach Aralia, only around half of Aktobe and a large part of Kostanay, which would benefit them if wheat could still be grown there.

In any case, let me know if your up for it.--Vladivostok 17:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, well, lets look over what I had in mind then. I was thinking of them controling that small part of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug they aren't already. I was thinking they would expand slightly in Komi, so they would control about half of it. The Arkhangelsk oblast would then take up the majority of the expansion, around 3/4 of it within control. The whole SK annexation happens as planned of course. However, I wasn't sure about Murmansk Oblast. It is fairly empty, other than the Sapmi state, and they aren't really that friendly with the NU. Possible occupation?

Oh, and it would be great if the USSR map would have the various territories and republics highlighted, like the current one has. Once again, thanks for doing this, the current map is getting a bit grainy, lol.--Vladivostok 09:37, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well ok then, that is a bit disappointing, as one of the other reasons to enter the region was a port in Murmansk to give them some access to the Atlantic again. Although a port in Arkhangelsk or former SK would probably work just as well. My plan for announcing this was as follows: I'd announce today that the forces amassing on the USSR's western borders were indeed sent out to grab land and to formally annex SK.

Then, I'd also write that the start of this move would take place on the 5th of May as well. You don't have to finish the map by then, there is no rush, as it would take some time (a month, probably more) to acquire the land and secure it. The name I was thinking of would be something like the Northwestern Territory, but I'm open to suggestions.--Vladivostok 10:06, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I have just now realized I accidentally reverted one of your edits to the Doomsday page. Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just checking some of the edits on a mobile device and clicked revert by mistake. I welcome the edits and making the list more complete for the USSR.--Vladivostok 17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Recent additions to Doomsday strikes in old USSR
All I can say is "Wow"! Okay, one other thing, if you can confirm these strikes (aside from "When in doubt, nuke it!"), could you update the "selected strkes" map? I know few people look, but I put a lot of work in finding the previous targets and marking the map. SouthWriter 17:57, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Seeing that you prefer to bounce back and forth between talk pages, I will respond to your response here. :-)

For those who are interested - why are you reading my mail? lol - hear is that response: Several I can confirm as being military locations, or major centers of industry. There's a few besides that which it was based on the population in general, but the principle there was pretty simple: The USSR hit virtually all cities of that size in the USA, so why wouldn't it have been hit more or less the same?

But yeah, I'll work on those maps sometime in the future. Not even close to finishing the strike list though, so....

And so, it looks like we agree -- the USSR would be crushed as much as the USA! And so, how in the world did the Siberians become such a powerful world power on the strength a single railroad? I know, a little peeve of mine. But on the flip side, my new "pet project" - a renewed USA - is being dissed as being a pipe dream. :-/

But yeah, take your time on the map, and by all means add those strikes! We're on the same page here. SouthWriter 15:55, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

East European Alliance
The USSR's recent/impending expansion has caused me to rethink my old plans for an alliance of Russian/Former Soviet States. We had previously come to an agreement that there was no way that they would form an alliance without an external threat, The URC could never ally with Belarus or the RC but now with the USSR's expansion to the west that might have changed. Even if it hasn't I was wondering if Novogrod would be intreasted in an alliance.Vegas adict 16:17, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sapmi and Nordic Union
Yeah, I guess its time. In how many months/years would Sapmi officially enter the Union? CheesyCheese 21:54, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I'll add it in now. CheesyCheese 18:53, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'm embarrased about what I'm about to say, but I can't add it. Every time I try to the table messes up. How do you do it?CheesyCheese 19:25, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Please add it in. Thanks. CheesyCheese 14:40, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

South America
I think I see what you mean. Does this have anything to do with the border dispute? I can't find much information on the Andean Union. <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 14:53, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused. The Andean Union is a free trade agreement, and I don't remember writing anything about boycotts. You just want me to add stuff about the Andean Union? <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 15:31, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Better? Don't keep me in the dark. <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:58, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good. I'll dilute it into a less spectacular secret war (Ecuador and Peru secretly supporting opposition in the other country). At the time the governments were close to polar opposites, so the only way they could have formed a pact was with pressure from other nations, especially with their ongoing border dispute. Since the Andean Union was a free trade agreement, I will incorporate boycotts which would shorten the "war" and eventually force Peru and Ecuador to resolve much quicker. <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 21:09, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

President Tilden LOP
I saw that my list of presidents on the President Tilden timeline was edited by a non-member user, and you undid it. What was the extent of the damage on my page? Just curious is all. MAINEiac4434 15:19, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

NVM, just found it. I wonder what possesed him/her to change "Thomas Brackett Reed" to "Benjamin Harrison"? Did s/he think it was too pro-Maine? It's well known that Reed wanted to be president, but William McKinley blocked his attempts and Reed died suddenly in 1900. In my timeline, McKinley never blocks Reed's attempt, and he ends up winning the presidency. So...sorry about that exposition, but I just hate it when people go and start screwing with my continuity. Thanks for reverting that edit. MAINEiac4434 15:26, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, unfortunately. A lot of people on this wiki would get more than just "curious" when people start screwing with their TLs lol. MAINEiac4434 19:08, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hello.
i ask for one thing and i need one answer. why are you rude? first you come to my page and act rude. then on the other pages. if you don't think this is rude: "And, the new stuff is just as bad." or "The map is fine, so long as you have enough common sense to read an obvious caption. That'd be your fault.". i acctualy read that thing. and acctualy, other people may find it confusing. a wiki is here to explain facts/history in a wat everyone will understand. thank you for reading this and i hope that you will stop being rude and either try to act like a fellow human.Mr.Minister 16:27, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

ok, let's stop.
this is just getting stupid and silly. let's forgett the whole thing. fighting only makes us look like trolls and stupid people. Mr.Minister 17:40, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Macedonia-Serbia War
So you said that we should wait until may to explore this idea further, and I don't want to appear the one who's been waiting for like a month for this, but I wanted to hear your ideas on the subject. Ownerzmcown 17:53, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

So what do you think the land differences would be after the war? Ownerzmcown 20:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I've come to like the idea of what I would call the United Kingdom of Serbia and Macedonia, or if Montenegro is involved, it could just be called the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia. I was thinking Turkey would become involved, too, being with Macedonia in the MDL. Each of the countries getting their claims sounds good, Bosnia I would think, if involved, would get back hte other half of Bosnia. Thoughts? Ownerzmcown 21:59, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I see how that would be quite a quandry with the name, but the deal with the Greeks would make sense, as the Macedonians would have a lot to gain from making the deal. But as I remember being told, Croatia, if not attacked directly, wouldn't want to be in the war. Ownerzmcown 10:54, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

What if the country was officially named the United Kingdom of Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, and Kosovo, but popularly be called Yugoslavia. Like how the UK is not techinically called Britain, but most people call it Britain because its easier and about right. But if you want a different name, then we'll still have to think it out. As per the war, I was thinking the nationalist government would try to expand the armed forces as much as possible to give the country a big voice against any foreign claims. And if the war were to start, then I would think it might begin as either an attempt to retake southern Kosovo, or take the remainder of Bosnia, or, if we choose, to take back land lost in their war. Or it could be a combination of the three, if we choose. Ownerzmcown 22:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I get it, so the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia idea is dead then, oh well. I guess we'll still have to think of a name, would could just keep Macedonia, but that would probably piss off the conquered locals. As per the fight, I would imagine it starting as the Serbians using military threats on the Macedonians to regain southern Kosovo. The Macedonians would respond via the MDL with a threat to Serbia to renounce their action, possibly combined or followed by a naval blockade and the declaration of a no-fly zone. The no-fly zone would be enforced by Macedonian MiG-21's and Turkish F-4's stationed in Macedonia. Ownerzmcown 23:05, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

So this is a map of how I could kind of imagine the war going, but this is just a prototype that can easily be modified. What are your thought? Ownerzmcown 12:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

So I like your idea, of course details come later, but as per the naval war, I would like to keep that at a minimum. Macedonia has a lot to gain from keeping as much of the former Serbian fleet after this war as possible. By the way, BSA sounds interesting, anyway I can help with it, or you just want to keep that to yourself? Ownerzmcown 10:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

So, LG, when exactly do you plan to make this all happen anyway? Ownerzmcown 10:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could get me a map of Serbia so I could work out a definite invasion route of some kind by map? Ownerzmcown 21:58, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well the names are all Roman and Byzantine, which I don't think would slide with modern people in the area. Ownerzmcown 20:05, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

New List of Cardinals
Hi LG! I have a question. For the Latin-American names in you new list, the date of appointment as Cardinals from these bishops would be the same that in OTL? Regards! --Katholico 17:22, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh i undertand now, thanks. I asked because in OTL some Latin-american Archbishops from the list not was Cardinals until some years after the 1999 Conclave.... And others not are Cardinals in OTL. Just for your consideration i wrote here the names... i hope you don't mind jeje ^^U

Not Cardenal; only Archbishop:
 * Carlos José Ñáñez
 * Luis Sánchez-Moreno
 * Manuel Gerardo Donoso Donoso
 * Antonio Moreno Casamitjana
 * José Gottardi Cristelli
 * Felipe Santiago Benítez Ávalos
 * Edmundo Luis Flavio Abastoflor
 * Ramón Ovidio Pérez Morales
 * Próspero Penados del Barrio

Regards! --Katholico 17:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, all right LG! :) I don't have doubts now, i see your point. Again, Thanks and dorry by the inconveniences. Regards! :) --Katholico 21:57, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Whoa
I forgot to log in today when I edited something, and it said my IP was banned. It said it was blocked for abusing multiple accounts. I was so afraid I was framed for sockpuppetting or something! Luckily, once I logged in, I could edit. However, I would like to know what happened, because I do NOT sockpuppet. CrimsonAssassin 20:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I got sick of seeing clones of Rebelsoldier on US Civil War, so I left out due process when you took over the Confederacy and Argentina. My fault, I won't do it again. But it would be nice if you check to make sure you are not looking suspicious when using your IP, lol. Thanks. <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:26, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Some Questions
I have created a new wiki called World War Three Simulations Wiki, and I’m wondering how to change the options, and so forth. I don’t know how to change comments to talk pages, and etc. Help would be appreciated. Also, could you restore Timeline 0-50 (A Different History) just so I can look at the PoDs and copy them down to create a list of PoDs? Thanks! PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 02:18, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

2nd American Civil War (Map Game)
The game is fixed, I ope it will now suite the wiki's rules.

WIP
I marked a page as a Work In Progress, but now I think it's completely protected so that every time I try to add to it, it doesn't accept my edits, and when I try to remove the template, it stays. It's the Largest cities in the United States page for Napoleon's World, and I put the Under Construction template there so that people wouldn't flock to the page and make their home city super-huge or whatnot. I'm trying to figure out how to correct this problem...

KingSweden 00:25, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that page is still unresponsive... which is wierd, I haven't been having problems with any other pages I've worked on...

KingSweden 02:07, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, but I did stadard procedure of any wiki. That is, revertion to clean edition. JorgeGG 02:15, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Who created 1983DD?
The name says it all. Bobalugee1940 03:39, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Mitro's gone?
Mitro's gone? Sorry didn't know. Bobalugee1940 17:17, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Confederation of States
Can you reiview my newest (and currently largest) TL that I've made? Bobalugee1940

Promotion
2 Weeks is up. Congrats. I know it says you get to pick your own title, but Mitro picked mine so I figured I'd get to have some fun with it.Oerwinde 06:52, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I tried a few other languages and none of them felt right.Oerwinde 07:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Another one I considered was Orena Massa, swedish for Unwashed Masses.Oerwinde 07:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)