Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-4923787-20130202175501/@comment-32656-20130628033626

Yes.

By the time of Lothair's death, Berengar was already effectively the rule of Italy. Changes nothing.

Charlemagne's heirs dividing it differently means little - only one outlived him.

Weren't even subjugated. They managed, with Viking support, to maintain their independence.

It's possible for them to have their empires get much smaller as parts revolt off, and the dynasties to be overthrown, but the last two parts, no.