No Nukes (Map Game)



The game begins at the year 1945, the German's momentum of push is already gone from the Eastern Front, the USSR continues to expand itself into eastern and northern Europe, and the world focuses not just on the result of the war, but also it’s aftermath.

This Map game's previous author Rebelsoldier, has given me, Enter Name, full control of the site, under the condition that I do not delete the "No Nukes" time line.

Ironically, the previous owner is now banned from this map game.

To fit the condition that somehow there are no nuclear weapon development program, there will be several historical changes: Note that the development of nuclear weapon is inevitable, and that these changes are necessary to delay the proposal of nuclear weapon during the end of WWII.
 * German physicist Max Planck pursued a musical career rather than becoming physicist.
 * Albert Einstein pursued a career of electrical engineering, accomplishing the intent of his father.
 * Enrico Fermi's brother did not die, resulting him to take little interest in physics and pursue a career in as a mechanical engineer.
 * Frédéric Joliot-Curie and his wife died from radiation poisoning because of their experiments.
 * Leó Szilárd became a civil engineer, following the career of his father.

Changes will be made through out the game.

Choose any nations that existed at the time.

Rules

 * Every turn is half a year.
 * No development of nuclear weapon or technology (people tend to ignore this for some reason).
 * Maps can only be changed by the mods (you can post it in the "Talk" page, and the mods will review if it is fit).
 * Only mods can edit the Announcements section.
 * More shall be added soon.

Announcements

 * Also, since Rebelsoldier is now banned, there are going to be major changes to the format of the map game (including the title), please post your suggestions in the "talk" section. Enter Name 01:18, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if other mods can post here or not, if not, sorry, but Rebelsoldier has been banned from the wiki, so anyone who wants to take the wheel of the USA or CSA, feel free! Until then, mods control it. CrimsonAssassin 18:27, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I noticed that there is little to none in the area of technological advancement, and since that the guns in the plains of Europe has silenced (for now anyway), now is the time to research new technology (again, no nuclear weapon, since that would just destroy the meaning of the map game). Enter Name 23:42, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Mods can post in the "Announcement" section and kudos to CrimsonAssassin for taking initiative on the matter. Finally, the USA is left to the mods to control, but the USA has to take a defensive stance and is occupied with internal problems (until another player takes the country). Enter Name 01:15, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just a reminder, we need a user to control Japan, please notify people who might be interested, also note that you can give up your current country to play as Japan, just make sure that your current country is not a major power in the war. Thank you. Enter Name 22:18, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Very special thanks to everyone who contributed to the “No Nukes” map game, for it was the dedication and expertise of every individual that brought this project on the path of success today. Enter Name 00:12, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Moderators:
The number is at four for now, closed  for applying. Please post further request on my talk page.
 * 1) Enter Name 17:31, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Collie Kaltenbrunner 22:09, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Flag_of_South_Korea.pngang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:38, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) CrimsonAssassin (approved)

List of Nations:
United States of America: JSimcox 16:31, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Confederate States of America: Defeated

France: octiman10 20:20, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Britian: Enter Name 21:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Spain:Whitesight 20:31, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Italy: ForeverFaithful 8:40, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Portugal:

USSR: CrimsonAssassin 12:06, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Germany: PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hungary: Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:53, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Nationalist China: Matt

Japan: VonGlusenburg 21:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ireland: UnRegsterd user '''This user is banned for very bad spelling and grammar, along with implausible scenario. '''

Prior History
This area is still under heavy construction.

1944:
November 2nd: Hungary asks for a ceasefire with USSR.

December 17th: German and Hungarian troops route the Allied troops at the Battle of the Bulge, forcing the surrender of the Allied Army under Omar N. Bradly, who was given command of the other part of the main army when the other commanders were shot dead by snipers, and 784,000 Allied troops and several hundred tanks to Axis control.

December 19th: The USA pulls 1.3 million troops from the Pacific front in another attempt to take out Germany before it can take over Japan. Spain pays back the aid of Germany in the Spanish Civil War by joining the Axis powers and declaing war on the Allies and invading both Portugal and France, forcing the Allies to withdraw from Italy and land in Portugal, Operation Roch is ended, or at least put aside until it can be put to use again.

December 25th: Responding the resent disastrous result of Allied advancement, Prime Minister Winston Churchill directs the NZEF (New Zealand Expeditionary Force) to the European theatre. The NZEF force are scheduled to arrive in one month. Members of the British Parliament began to doubt Churchill's wartime unity government.

December 26th: Antonio Gramsci is freed from jailed in a peoples revoultion in Italy over throwing the Facist dictaorship and creating the Peoples Republic of Italy, unions are banned in favour of workers rights

1945.0
The USA: Anti-war riots break out in the USA, and some hot heads call for scessession from the Union, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia,, Florida, Alabama, Mississippii, Louisiana, and Texas have elections and peace governors, state legisltaures, and federal congressmen are elected. US troops are pulled from France.

Britian: Winston Churchill dies of cardiac arrest, Deputy Anthony Eden succeeds as Conservative Party leader and Prime Minster. With the United States' resignation in the European Front, Prime Minster Eden propose armistice with Germany.

'''A question on the peace treaty; I can understand Finland's gains in the CCCP but Sweden was tacitly alligned with Finland and Germany. Why (and how, for that matter) would Finland annex Kiruna and its locales? Sweden would certainly fight back, and Finnish forces would be fighting on two fronts. Not to mention that by this time both Finland and Germany had a severly retarded capacity for offensive engagement due to Allied bombing of refineries in German-alligned Romania and Germany proper. Engagement in a large nation with a defensive policy designed specifically to combat threats such as this would not be advised.'''

'''Here's the thing. The Soviet strategy at the time of the invasion of Finland was this: Simply overwhelm them with superior numbers on all fronts, and hundreds of tanks, and also, Sweden is not the nation known for the best military. Also, the Soviet Union tried to adopt the German blitzkrieg tactic, which ultimately failed due to two reasons. One, the Soviet command and military were not used to the “lightning war” tactics, they were still really fighting in the WWI trench warfare, slow advancement style. While they tried to, they really failed. Also, the Soviet Union also had a strategy of basically punching through the lines by invading on all fronts, with overwhelming force, and on at least one of those points, the enemy would fall, and would therefore destroy all the other points. However, the Finland-Soviet border is basically a mountain range, with few points of entry. The Swedish-Finnish border has much flatter, and has much milder weather. A German invasion of Sweden would be much more successful, because while the blitzkrieg is not as effective in this climate/land, the Germans are much more practiced in this. Also, Finland would not be fighting on two fronts, as the Winter War ended in 1940. Therefore, a joint Finland-German invasion of Sweden is plausible.'''

'''Karelia is about as flat as it gets; I see no mountain ranges whatsoever(though that is beside the point if you read on). Lappland is a polar desert for all intents and purposes; I'm not arguing with you there. However, by "on two fronts" I was referring to Finland fighting against Germany in the Lapland War. Also, while the Winter War ended in 1940, the Continuation War lasted until 1944. Also, again, Sweden and Germany were allies. Blitzkrieg tactics are useless at this point in time because, obviously, Germany has no reliable source of oil. Just as obviously, blitzkrieg tactics require massive amounts of it. There would be little gains made before German forces are bogged down in a cold, wet winter with their supply train stretching across an ice-choked sea. As to your comment pertaining to Sweden's supposed lack of military prowness, you are quite wrong. They probably had the best defensive-oriented military in the world at the time in terms of equipment, training, and logistics, if not in manpower. '''

'''My mistake on two points. yes, the Karelia region is swamps and forests, that is one of the worst places to invade by Blitzkreig. That, I will say. Also, I will admit that since there are almost no paved rodes in those nations, and no communications and central command centres easy to access, Germany would be hard-pressed to attack, and that Sweden does have an accomplished military (Did some research on that). However, Germany would have learned from the Winter War that while the Soviet Union was very well adapted to using General Winter, so were the Finnish, and probably therefore the Swedish were too. However, there are motives for Germany to invade. Sweden has massive deposits of iron ore and some of uranium, giving the Germans plenty of reason to invade, seeing as they lacked both. Also, while Sweden may have had the best defense in the world, Germany had the best offence, and while the blitzkreig tactic would not work very well, they still have numerical and technological superiority. Also, the German refineries, etc were not bomed as much as in OTL. Due to the Germans winning the Battle of the Bulge, the Germans would regain air-superiority over Europe, and maybe in Great Britain as well. Also, Italy would not have fallen due to the, once again, the Battle of the Bulge, giving the Germans a lot more manpower than Sweden. Combine that with Finland, and you've got one big offensive.'''

RoC: Nationalist forces complete the goals layed out in Operation Ichigo and turn their attention to the CPC. With backing from the Guanxi Clique and Uyghur warlords, troops push northward against the Communists. They isolate them in and around Anxi and begin to wait out the seige. Smaller task forces deal with pockets in Fujian in cooperation with NGC troops.

Sorry, just for clarification, what do you mean by "The Nationalist forces turn their attention to the KMT"?

My bad I'm getting my acronyms mixed up

Germany: In Germany, sweeping new purges take place, but much more specialized and precise than the previous ones. They accept the armstice with Germany, while secretly planning a new operation, Operation Seadragon, which would launch an invasion of both Great Britain, and also begin an invasion of Sweden, where they heard that Jews have escaped from Denmark. However, right then, before the invasion, Hitler and almost the entire cabinet are killed by a bomb from a French Resistance Member. Albert Speer, who had been home sick for the meeting, takes control immediately. He begins to stop the "Final Solution", as that it is bringing much condemnation to Germany. They also offer a cease-fire with the Soviet Union.

See my comments above

I'm fairly sure this is a spelling mistake, but Germany cannot accept armstice with itself.

USSR: While most of the Germans are fighting in the West, the USSR takes advantage of a relatively distracted army and retakes parts of Russia.

'''By 1945, the USSR should have already acquired a large portion of Eastern Europe. Also, the events in 1944 does not suggest that the USSR had any problem advancing in the Eastern Front, even without the aid of the U.S and the British, therefore, instead of taking over imaginary portions of Russia still under foreign occupation, the USSR should have continue its push eastward.'''

Spain: Spain invades what is remaining of Portugal and by the end of the year most of the country is occupied including Lisbon.

1945.6
The USA: Anti war riots continue in the south, and a radical new branch of the KKK runs in state elections, and 12 states inaugurate these people as there new governments. The 12 states, (Kentucky, the Carolinas Virginia, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, Arkansas, Georgia, and Florida,) send a petition to Congress to end the war, or they will withdraw there troops from the armed forces and very possibly, make a separate peace with the Axis Powers.

'''Hungary should already be occupied by the Soviets, and even if the capital was not take in the Siege of Budapest, the Hungarian First and Second Army corps should be at least awfully devastated or completely destroyed, and the supposed surviving Third Army corps would be severely damaged. You are welcome to add additional information about Hungary in the "Prior History" section.'''

Germany: Germany encourages the anti-war riots in the US, and tell the US that they will accept peace from the US if offered, with no reparation or anything. It also offers to release all US PoWs, as well as all other allied ones for peace. However, they tell Britain that they will be taking Egypt, whether they want or not. Romel, who had survived (unlike OTL), will lead the attack, and will take over Egypt swiftly, since they had lost reinforcements and supplies from the British.

Britain: Britain strongly encourages the two opposing factions in the United States to settle aside their differences and focus containing Germany's aggression, as demonstrated by Germany's attack on Egypt, and urges for the United States to re-enter the Western Front as soon as possible. The attack on Egypt was viewed as imminent threat to the British's relation with the Middle East, and Britain will negotiate with the Soviet Union by cancelling the armistice between Britain and Germany, along with dividing the regions of the Middle East after the war ends, provided that the Soviet Union would not agree on a ceasefire with Germany and continue to its push into German Proper.

France: France consolidates its military to defend itself and perform hit and run attacks on the germans.

Ierland sends 2 corps to belfast and expels brisist

Fix your spelling and grammar (four spelling mistake in a sentence of nine words).

Ireland supported the Allied forces during WWII, and declaring an illogical act of war against the British will force Britain to retaliate, and the Ireland Defence Force will most likely be defeated by the British Armed Forces since the British Armed Forces are far more superior, for example, the Irish Navy consist only of only six motor torpedo boats at the time, and it's air force is far more outdated than the British Air Force.

1946

 * Hungary keeps waiting for a response from USSR about its surrender proposal.most troops in the western part of the country are moved to Budapest.
 * Spain builds up its air force, army and navy. Any attack on Germany and Spain willl respond. Spain harshly puts down any resitance in Portugal.
 * The British 2nd Army and the NZEF begin the liberation of France, by re-entering the demolished portions of the Atlantic Wall in Normandy. The British and the New Zealand forces was able to surround the unprepared German 7th Army in Caen, without counter attacks made by the German 5th Panzer Army, since the 5th Panzer was still in North Africa (because somehow the Afrika Korps was able to take Egypt). The German 7th Army surrendered, and the British forces were able to secure much of northern France, including Paris. Britain again encourages America to participate in the Western Front.
 * KMT troops finish off the last of the Communists and begin the final drive to push the Japanese off the mainland. Much of southeastern China is taken.
 * You are pushing far too quickly, since the nationalist were in a fairly bad situation in the war, and destroying the communist within the period of one year seems implausible. If the nationalist was not able to stop the Japanese advancement in the mainland, I would doubt that Chiang Kai-shek was able to rally the nationalist to such a point where the KMT troops are able to push the Japanese away in a year. I will however, for the sake of the map game, allow you to retake a reasonable portion of South Eastern China, as part of your counter offence. 
 * Germany once again offers the USSR a cease-fire, as well as to Britain, in return for Egypt. The 7th Panzer Divison, headed by Rommel, along with 35 other divisons, start a massive offensive in Western Europe and France, along with 20 divisons being sent to the USSR-German border. They now have completely stopped The Final Solution, thanks to the efforts of Albert Speer and Ervin Rommel. Many Jewish scientists are released from concentration camps, but are forced to make weapons for the Germans.
 * The weapon in development has to be approved by me, Enter Name.
 * The USA: The 12 states, saying there warnigs will not be withdrawn, declare independance from the Union and resurect the Confederate States of America, with the Capital at Montgomery, Alabama. ( I will control the CSA nad the USA, as longas anyone does not mind Rebelsoldier 19:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC) ) The CSA offers the Axis an alliance in return for recognition and that when the war ends, they will be allowed to keep there injdependance. The 1st and 2nd Confederate Armis are formed and prepare to invade the Union, which begins to raopidly withdraw troops from the Pacific theater while withdrawing 90% of its troops from Europe. CS troops in the west invade New Mexico and press westward while US troops move in and slowly begin to conquer Virginia and partd of the Carolinas. The CSA asks Mexico to declare war on the Union iin return for, at the wars end, Guam and the Philipenes as welll as Japan to send troops to invade the American Pacific coast.
 * CSA_Map_1946_2.png
 * Just a question, but is a Southern invasion of the North really feasible? Going on US Census figures, blacks made up around 20% of the South's population at the time and they are likely to be opposed to the move. It would not bode well for the CSA to have a large, hostile population within their borders while at the same time fighting a war. Also, keep in mind that the original Civil War was not a revolution but a war of independence. Looking at any part of the equation shows a disproportionate amount of America's industry, agriculture (as in food production), and population is located in the North. Independence is realistic, a revolution is not
 * Well noted, and this is going to be a war of independance.

1946.6

 * Hungary keeps its troops in Budapest and the eastern part of the country.Still is waiting response of USSR about its ceasefire proposal.
 * The timeline itself is fairly messed up (I hope to fix that soon), let's just say that Britain and Hungary are neutral to each other.
 * Britain strengths the defence of Northern France, and begins the liberation of Belgium. The British government promises the independence of France once Germany is defeated, and ask for the aid of French partisan fighters. Britain would again ask the USSR to press on its attack to German Proper, and ask the Chinese Nationalist government to aid in the British campaign against Burma, in return, Britain will supply the Chinese Nationalist with weapons and funding from India. The Indian 4th, 8th and 10th Infantry Division moves from Mosul to Damascus, in order to protect the Syrian independence from German occupation.
 * Spain expands its navy and airforce. Spain launches an offensive against OTL Morroco and by the end of the year most of Morroco is occupied by Spain.
 * The CSA: CS troops begin to withdraw from the northern part of there conquests and slowly begin to push out the Yankees while desperatly keeping a small stretch of land on the Pacific for Japanses forces if they ever do come to te Confederates aide and continuing to wait for Germany to send planes, Panzers, and troops.
 * The USA: The USA slowly begin to take back land recently occupied by Confederate troops while slowly losing ground in the east to the strengtening Confederate forces who have finaly forced the US out of South Carolina and parts of North Carollina. The US pulls all of its troops fromEurope and puts as many as it can spare in the Pacific, which Japan has reoccupied and event taken more than it had before Pearl Harbor.

1947

 * Hungary start to amp up it's army, since the USSR didn't advanced in Hungarian territory since 1945.Once again, Hungary asks for a ceasefire to USSR.
 * The USSR wants money for damages done by the German invasions. Meanwhile, several Soviet doctors discover DNA.
 * Again, the USSR has regained all of its territories in western Russia, and has now control a majority of Eastern Europe. The “No Nuke” time line has very little to no changes to the outcome of Operation Barbarossa (with the exception of Hungarian autonomy, but the timeline itself is still under heavy construction).
 * Yo, i asked for a ceasefire to USSR two rounds ago and i'm still waiting for a response.
 * I seriously doubt CrimsonAssassin is paying much attention to the other posts, I'm considering switching him to a lesser important country, or kicking him. But I'll need the decision of the mods.
 * Dude, calm down. I was in Washington for a few days. No reason to ban me or switch me. I'll change my post, but to hand bans out left and right is rediculous.
 * I can attest that he was, since he left a message in Axis vs Allies explaining that he would be out for some days.
 * I'm very Sorry CirmsonAssassin, please accept my apology, but I'm sure you do understand the importance of the USSR in the war.
 * Ha, it's cool. The USSR was really important in the war, so I know you guys were getting a little anxious that the user controlling it was not there! Well anyway, I'm here and I look forward to a good map game!
 * Spains air force and navy is rapidly expanded. Spanish troops mass on the Spanish-French border. Spain begins building up its army. Spain observes German Blitzkrieg tactics and begins to incorporate them into their invasion. Spain begin building anti- air defences throughout Spain and Spanish Morocco.
 * The British fully liberates Belgium, and strength the country's land and air defence. A portion RAF is relocated to France. The 2nd British Army secures area on the eastern side of the Rhine river, and takes a defensive position, while the NZEF pushes north in to the Netherlands. The RAF in France made bombing runs on western German defensive installations and civilian structure. The Indian 4th and 8th Infantry Division launches offenses in Egypt, Alexandria is taken, the remaining Axis forces is cut off supply from Italy, while the 10th Infantry Division is still stationed at a well defended Damascus, blocking possible escape route to the Middle East. The British government commences conscription and a large series of intra-national propaganda, and forms the British 3rd Army.
 * Germany sends 10 more divisions to the Western front, making a combined total of 525,000 men. They retake Belgium, as well as parts of Vincy France. The German 7th Army is sent to Egypt, and takes control of the Nile Delta. The Luffwaffe starts a campaign over France, Egypt, and the USSR in order to gain complete air-superiority over all those regions. The Messerschmitt Me 262 is improved and mass-produced, and is one of the most efficient aricraft in the world, with a kill-death ratio of 7:1. Meanwhile, German officers are sent to Spain to help them train their troops for Blitzkreig tactics. Also, with the help of Jewish scientists, the first nuclear weapon is planned for 1948.
 * PitaKang, without Einstein, there would not be proposal of Mass-energy equivalence, much less the possibility of a fission bomb or any type of nuclear powered crafts or reactors. Please try to understand that one of the main points of this map game is "No Nukes", as in "No nations during WWII have nuclear capability". Also, just to make sure, which 5th Army are you referring to? The Panzer Army was destroyed, and the other 5th Army is an occupational security force in Poland (which has to somehow get through multiple Soviet occupied countries before even reaching Greece).
 * Whoops! I didn't read that Einstein didn't become a scientist. However, can you have, some day, some kind of Jewish or whatever scientist come up with that theory? Because it would be lame without nukes later on. Also, the 5th Army was a typo. I meant 7th Army. [EDIT] Also, the Panzer Army 5th Army would not have been destroyed here due to the Germans winning the Batte of the Bulge.
 * 7th army, I guess that kind of makes sense, since the U.S did not pursue any further. As for nuclear weapons, I did promise the previous owner I would keep the overall idea, but I could change it if the other mod agrees that the game should have nuclear weapon. Finally for the 5th panzer army, it was encircled in Caen, and finally surrendered (you can check the "1946" section).
 * The CSA: CS troops froce the Yankees from the CSA itslef while barly managing to hold a 20 mile wide strip to the Pacific coast in case of Japanese aid while waiting for Germany to send planes, tanks, and oter war materails to elp against the USA.
 * After years of consolidation of Free France Forces into a united front, the French retake Vichy and aid Britain in retaking lost lands. They ask for much needed supplies, including food, gas, and ammunition. After the French kick out the Germans they take and use to their advantage captured German Tanks and plains, Only refitting them with the French fleur-de-lis ensigna, The new symbol of a free France.
 * Your occupied by Spain, Germany, and Italy, its nearly impossible to tkae all of Vichy when the Free French have been rounded up and imprisoned as well as how are you going to sneak in atleast 2 million troops and land them without being obliterated?
 * The USA: us troops are forced from the CSA and mange to defeat the Japs at the Battle of Australia, and the 1st Battle of Hawaii but lose the 2nd Battle of Hawaii, causing the islands to fall into Japanese hands. All of the Aluetian Islands are retaken by American Marines.
 * A group of Free French Partisans escape from prison and hide in the country side waiting to strike. They ask for help from Britain and if possible the USA

1947.6

 * Once again, Hungary asks for a ceasefire (and the territories lost in Romania, although this is a optional clause) to USSR.
 * USSR accept the peace treaty. They capture more territory controlled by Germany,
 * Anyway, which part you accepted? ceasefire and giving Hungarian territory lost in Romania, or only the ceasefire?
 * Germany recalls some troops in the Western Front to combat the USSR. 35 extra divisions are sent to the Eastern Front, so there are now 310,000 men on the Western Front and 465,000 on the Eastern Front. The USSR is pushed out of Poland, with their superior blitzkreig tactics, which the Soviets have not yet mastered. Operation östlichen Sturm, or Operation Eastern Storm is launched. The German army is now much more equipted and prepared for the Soviets, as that they have suffered from General Winter before. Troops are assigned with white winter camouflage, as well as winter coats, and other things to prepare for General Winter. Meanwhile, with the SS freed from the concentration camps, more men are mobilized and sent to the front. Propoganda minister Joseph Goebbels is executed on national television for "lying to the public". This marks the end of the "Final Solution", as that Goebbels had been one of it's most ardent supporters.
 * Dude, I totally understand that the Wehrmacht is much better trained and armed than the Red Army, but saying that the German army drove the Soviets out of Poland by their superior number is a bit ridiculous. And the Soviet does not need to master the blitzkrieg tactics, since the Soviet relies mainly on numbers. I do like the public execution of Goebbels though, that was a nice touch.
 * Yeah, it really is crazy.
 * Sorry, I changed it.
 * More Free France Partisans escape prison and join the others. Together, with stolen weapons and aid from loyal French citizens perform a series of successful hit and run attacks on German Convoys and smaller bases, while running to the countryside to hide once again.


 * Spain with the help of German officers launchs a blitzkrieg against france taking French and English forces by suprise and dealing a significant blow to them. Spain sends a hundred thousand troops and begins bombing runs against key Allied targets causing enormous damage to the Allies and opening another front against France allowing Germany to send more troops to the Eastern front. Spain increases its air force and navy and building coastal batteries and AA Guns throughout Spain

1948
The USSR urges Britain and France to strike now while Germany is distracted! '''Erm, well what do you think I mean when I say: "Japan offers the allies peace after coming to the conclusion that Germany is doomed to lose the war in Europe." Of course I mean a ceasefire, stop being pedantic. You can't have reperations & still be at war; that isn't plausible because its just common sense that peace = ceasefire'''
 * The USSR retakes parts of Poland. They push further into German territory. However, they invade things that Germany has already captured, not the country of Germany itself. The USSR uses the winter, which is very harsh this year, to its advantage. Though Germany is prepared for a harsh winter, they had no idea how strong it will be this year!
 * Germany begins to go into defensive mode in Poland, temporarily stopping offensive operations. Meanwhile, heavy bombing of Ukraine commences, to destroy the Soviet Union's wheat supplies, since most of their wheat comes from Ukraine. They also begin rebuilding infrastructure, mainly oil refineries, and the coal liquefaction methods, of turning coal into oil. However, their lack of oil/fuel is noticed, and orders are given to actually not destroy enemy tanks, but to disable and take oil. This severely retards the German ability to push in, until more oil flows into Germany.
 * France after being recked by Spain asks for aid from the USSR and Britain. They perform several hit and run raids against both German and Spanish forces.
 * Japan offers the allies peace after coming to the conclusion that Germany is doomed to lose the war in Europe. Japan agrees to bring its troops back home and gives back all of the territory it has invaded in the war and to return the borders in East Asia and the Pacific back to their pre-WW2 borders. However they don't offer China peace, and the troops returning from Indonesia, Burma, etc. are sent to China to push back the Chinese. Japan agrees to pay reperations to USA, USSR, UK, Australia and Netherlands. As for the Chinese, the Japanese try to break up China into seperate states split between the Nationalists and Communists, while retaining Shandong provence as a colony and Manchuko as a puppet state. They also offer the Americans (as they are Japan's main aggressors) help to fight against the communists by allowing missle bases to be built in Japanese held land. Furthermore Japan pledges to help the allies against Germany once China is sorted out.
 * Ok, this is plausible and all but you did not offer ceasefire, you just agreed to pay reperations.
 * Sorry, man, I was confused by the later post. But anyway, the whole "peace and ceasefire" thing is pretty confusing.
 * The USSR offers peace to Germany. They will grant peace to Japan as long as Japan gives back all land that was taken from the USSR.
 * Agreed
 * The USA and CSA: Sick of 7 years of war abroad and at home with the Confederacy, Peace Protestors march on Washington DC and hold the President hostage, saying to end the war on at least two fronts, and as many still hate the Japs the most, Peace is offerd to Germany and the CSA is offered independance as well as control of all states tht scesded and joined the CSA in return for its help in war against the hated Japs, which the CSA accepts in return for 8 Battleships, which the USA reduces to 5 Battleships and 3 cruisers. On the same day the Treaty of Washington is signed, the American Alliance is created with the CSA joining the Allies and sending troops to fight Japan.
 * Spain: Spain urges Germany to accept the peace offering from the USSR so they will have only one front with which to fight on. Spain continues to bomb key military instalations throughout France destroying many airfields within 6 months the airforce left in France is almost nonexistant. Spain offer France an ultimatium either unconditionally surrender or Spain will begin bombing cities. Spain navy and and airforce is expanded.
 * Britain offers ceasefire with Germany, and hope that the ceasefire will eventually lead to a peace treaty. The British 14th and 12th Army was able to liberate Burma without much resistance, and Thailand, Laos and Cambodia all willingly offer to be British client state, in order to protect themselves from the communist in Vietnam and a possible retaking by the Japanese. The Indian 10th division is incorporated into the 9th Army stationed in Palestine. With the aid of the British, the Iraqi military was increased to half a million recruits, and 3 armour divisions, and with the aid of the 10th Army, the Iraqi military is further trained in western tactics. Ikhwan raids were being raised as a serious concern in the Middle East, and a portion of the 9th Army is occupies Saudi Arabia, deposing Abdul-Aziz, installing a pro-British regime, and established the British Middle East Protectorate, which features Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia, under the rule of the crown. Britain also accept peace with the Japanese.
 * Accepted

1948.6
'''I take this that the USA & CSA didn't take Japan's generous offer of peace then? Either way I can understand you retaking Hawaii in a year, but you wouldn't be able to beat the Japanese everywhere else in the Pacific, use your noggin!''' '''Japan hasn't taken any land from Russia only China therefore you accepted Japan's terms of peace last turn. '''
 * The ceasefires are accepted with both the USSR and Britain, leaving Germany free to deal with Vichy France. Elements of the army are demobilized, but most stay on the lookout for treachery by any side. Meanwhile, crackdowns start on French resistance members, and many are captured and thrown in jail. Meanwhile, the People's Court is abolished, and is revealed as a kangaroo court. Ervin Rommel is awarded the Star of the Grand Cross of the Iron Cross, saying that he was the most valuable general in the war. Meanwhile, peace is accepted from both American nations. Poland is turned into a vassal state to Germany, much like Vichy France, with strong German influence. All captured territory is then returned, with the exception of the Netherlands, Belgium, and half of Poland. East Poland is a vassal state to Germany.
 * Hungary: the currency, called pengő, which now has a alarming hyperinflation rate, is substituted by a currency called forint.
 * The CSA and USA: American and Confederate troops land in Hawaii and slowly begin to take back the islands as well as forcing the Japs from the South Pacific and parts of Oceania. By November, Okinawa and the Kurli Islands will be under Confederate/American control, and troops begin to mass for an invasion of Japan itself, and by December the troop levels in the Kurl Islands will be 478,000 troops and a fleet of 40 varied US Naval vessels, each one brand new and loaded with guns and ammo. A blockade of the home islans begins when the 25 other CS and US naval vessels begin to establish a tight blockade of the Japanese homeland.
 * The USSR pushes Japan out of parts of Russia. The USSR declares that is is hell-bent on getting Japan out of mainland Asia.
 * Japan returns land back to Britain & Netherlands after declaring peace with the two nations.
 * The Netherlands is still under German occupation, but I guess you can give it to the Germans (since I'm not sure how you can give territory back to an destroyed government).

'''Wouldn't they go to the Dutch government in exile? Giving it to the Germans who are all busy with their own war effort doesn't seem right...'''

Fine, do whatever the heck you want, it is your client state.
 * A Dutch exile state is established in Indonessia, however it is a Japanese ally. The Dutch agree to send troops to help the Japanese against the Americans.


 * Britain refuses Germany's request for acquiring Palestine, but the British government has allowed immigration from Germany if the German government truly wishes to help the Jewish people. The British Middle East Protectorate strengthening its internal defence and implements a five year plan of economic and social expansion that will improve civil infrastructure. Britain does not wish to enter a war with the Spanish, and urges the Spanish hostility to end, or Britain will be forced to take police action against Spain. Britain now hopes that a peace treaty can be signed between the three nations of the European Front, but to don’t wish to impose if the other two parties disagree. Britain feels that Japan has no right in further occupying China, and wishes Japan to return eastern China and Manchuria back to the Chinese Nationalists. With the works of Robert Goddard, Britain hopes to develop its own liquid fuel rocket by 1950.
 * Spain: With peace declared and hostilities ended Spain begins to upgrade their infrastructure and expand economically. Spain upgrades and expands its navy and airforce. More troops are sent to Spanish Morocco in case of any local uprising. Spanish troops mass at the OTL Libyan-Algerian border.

1949

 * Map Fixes: The Philippines is neutral.
 * Hungary's economy starts to recover.
 * Japan states to Britain that it is moving out of China with the exception of Shandong province but it will be staying to help the Nationalist forces against the Communists. They also begin to set up an independent Filipino government to take control of the Philippines in order to free up Japanese troops to fight the Americans and to rule the country. This new independent Filipino nation sends aid to Japan to help them in their war effort. The Dutch government also sends oil & other raw materials from Indonessia to Japan to help them fight the Americans. With the loss of Hawaii the Japanese begin a defence line and strenghen defences on all of its holdings in the Pacific against American attack.
 * The CSA president dies of a heart attack. The CSA begins to collapse.
 * The CSA isn't a freaking cult, ok? The urge for independence doesn't just disappear when the leader is dead. At least have like a series of government official trying to take over before it ultimately falls into chaos, a entire group of zealous separatist just doesn't full suddenly give up when its leader's heart stops pumping. 
 * USSR consolidates its power and amps up its military, especially along the German/Russian border. Meanwhile, a Soviet scientist creates a virus in a laboratory.
 * Dude, the first bacteria was geneticly modifed in 1973, so having second grade soviet scientists (since the good ones were either killed or imprisioned by the Great Purge) modifiying something that is much more smaller than a Mycoplasma during Stalin's most moody years is borderline impossible. Tell you what, you are able to modify bacteria in 1955. how about that?
 * I agree, since without nukes (or at least delayed) the Soviets will have something else to concentrate on instead of nuke building.
 * 1955 seems fair for bacteria. I shouldn't have said virus though. Big difference...
 * VERY big difference. Just saying.
 * Spain continues to build up its miltary and asks Germany for help building jet engines and possibly the plans to build Messerschmitt Me 262s. Spain economy becomes more open. Spain invades Algeria and occupies half of it within 6 months.
 * France agrees to Spains ultimatum and offers peace to germany. But ask for their land back, able to be an independant nation and some help rebuilding it. In exchange we'll be peaceful with you and trade with you.
 * Germany gives plans to build Me 262s to Spain, and agrees to the French peace offer. However, they decide to keep half of the occupied land, and offer money to France to help rebuild. They also offer trade relations with the USSR, France, Spain, Britain, and Sweden.
 * Britain promotes multiculturalism and racial co operation within Britain and its client states through a series of large scale propaganda. Britain opens trade with Germany, and hope that Germany, under Albert Speer's leadership, will once more embrace democracy. Atholl Highlanders is employed by the British government to maintain security in the Middle East, allowing the British army in the Middle East to be focusing on more important matter. The Canadian economy went to a severe drop back from its recovery in the 1940s, mainly because of the second U.S Civil War, and is now seeking assistance from Great Britain. Britain offered to assume its debt, but Canada must give up its dominion status and revert to a colony, and allow a series of permanent Britain military base. A federal vote in Canada was conducted, and the decision to abandon dominion status for British colonial rule won by a landslide. Canada officially becomes a British colony until its economy is improved to a stage where Canada is economically independent (This can be backed up, Newfoundland, once a separate dominion, given up the dominion status for Britain to help its economy). With its resent advancement in liquid fuel rocketry, the British military pursue surface to air missile development.

1949.6
Just make sure that some time for re-structuring & intergrating the south is given
 * Hungary's economy continues to recover.
 * France starts to recover, with the help from the German money. They accept the germans trade offer. They ask for the land the germans kept.
 * Spain accepts Germany's Trade offer. Spain occupies the rest of Algeria and continues to build up its navy and airforce 2 new aircraft carriers are been built and should be built by 1950. Spain continues to build naval batteries and AA gunst throughout Spain and its possesions.
 * Japan senses USA-CSA unrest & launches a large campaign to re-take Hawaii & push the USA-CSA from the Pacific. The two American forces due to their infighting lose to Japan & lose Hawaii. The two American nations sue for peace as they try to sort out the CSA's problems & re-intergrate it into the USA. Japan accepts their offers of peace and a peacefire across the Pacific ensues.
 * The USSR begins trade with Germany. They demand that Japan stop its warmongering or the war will continue.
 * Britain despatches its 3rd Army to Canada, and constructed a military base in the Niagara Escarpment. Britain also agrees with the USSR on Japan's imperialist tendency. Britain constructed the first working Saunders-Roe SR.177 jet fighter plane, and begins mass production, years before the its design in the OTL, since Britain is doing very well economically with it's control over the Middle East, and is able to increase funding to the research sector.
 * The CSA collapses due to a black rebbellion (that could happen right?) and pro unification protestors. The USA moves in and ccupies the Confederacy.
 * Sure, Rebelsoldier made one heck of a mess, so I'll allow it.

1950
Yep thats long enough
 * Hungary's economy continues to recover.
 * France continues to recover.
 * Japan now with the USA out of the war enters a time of relative peace. The Shandong colony though comes under seige from the rebeling factions in China. Japan calls for international help to protect its Chinese colony and to sort out the Chinese civil war between the nationalists and communists. Japan also gives its puppet states of Manchuko & Korea further freedom to appease the international community.
 * The USA: Integration begins of the CSA into the USA, and the Integration Plan is passed by the US Congress, which plans for the CSA to be slowly integrated back into the Union by 1955. (Is that long enough?) The USA begins to demilitarize its army but keeps its air force on high alert as well as its navy.

'''Ok, did you even read the title? What part of "No Nukes" do you not understand. Or did you just completely ignore the top portion and said, "Let's build a nuclear bomb, when Einstein never sent the letter to Roosevelt, or became a physicist for that matter".'''


 * Spain begins focusing on R&D research. To faciltitate this new demand many new courses open up in science and engineering universities. Franco begins a programme to intergrate Catalonians and Basque people into the Spanish way of life. They are also given more freedom and autonomy. Spain begins building more aircraft, building a variant of the Me 262's which Spain call Me 267's as they have upgraded the handling capabilities and speed of the jet engines considerably. Mass production for the Me 267's will begin within 6 months. The navy is expanded by putting 2 more carriers under construction. A huge military base is being built on Lanzarote and the 2nd fleet will be stationed here.
 * Fix your grammer. You cannot predict what both Spain and Russia will do.
 * Sorry I meant Spain i was editing a civil war post at the same and said Russia by mistake.
 * Germany also upgrades their Me 262s, and begins to more mass produce the V-2, and begins research on the V-3, with Wehrner von Braun at it's head, with the ability to go up to 6,400 kph. They also send more technical information to Spain.
 * Britain incorporate Newfoundland to the Dominion of Canada for easier governance. Britain develops its first liquid fuel rocket capable of entering space. Britain strenghens the security of its African client states, and continues to develop and improve the energy infrastructure in Eygpt, Sudan, and Nigeria.

1950.6
'''Is that Nationalist or Communist China? There's a civil war going on in China BTW'''
 * Hungary's economy continues to recover.
 * France begins researching jet planes to keep pace with the rest of the world. They also begin weapons research.
 * The USA: Virginia and Kentucky officialy rejoin the Union along with Tennessee.
 * Japan founds the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere with itself, Korea, Manchuria, the Philippines and Indonessia. This group is a multinational defence organisation like OTL NATO and aims to keep Asia for Asians. Japan likens this organisation and Japan's role in it to that of the USA and their similar relationshipa with latin American nations in which they regularly interviened in. The founding of this organisation however isn't pushed for by militarists in Japan but rather the Democractic parties in Japan. This happens mainly due to increasing international pressure by foreign powers to be less imperialistic and also because the Japanese population lack of will for a war. Militarists though in order to remain a strong military power plan to keep Japan's capacity to retaliate to be massive, to deter all forms of aggression. They offer the Chinese nationalists membership into the GEACPS and help against the Chinese communists. Otherwise the Japanese begin to strenghen the navy by constructing new modern aircraft carriers, replacing standard issue weapons with more modern weaponry like sub machine guns rather than bolt action weapons like the Arisaka. The airforce is also improved too.
 * The USSR offers an alliance to China and amps up its military along the German/Russian border in case of a German invasion.

Communist


 * Spain sees that it may lack a stable source of oil soon starts looking into other ways to power its cities(NOT NUCLEAR POWER). Spain continues to upgrade its military with the new technical information Spain begins to place the new V3s on its naval vessels as it will be capable of bombarding targets from great distances without putting the ships in harm’s way. Lanzarote is continued to be fortified and Spain asks Britain for Gibraltar.
 * We never gave you the V-3.
 * The actual V-3 is 130 metres long, and the Tirpitz, the German largest ship commisoned in WWII, is only 251 metres, so the gun simply cannot take up about 52% of the ship, unless you take out the essential services and communication. Just saying.
 * Britain pursues the development of surface-to-air missles to counter the world's increasing development of Jet powered aircrafts. Due to the success of the LEO I computer, the British government commisson a large investment into J. Lyons & Co. Ltd in goal of creating a microcomputer in ten years. Britain continues to wish that Japan would return Manchuria to the Chinese government, in recignition of Chinese soverginty.
 * Britain designs a possible prototype of a surface-to-air missiles to counter the world's increasing development of Jet powered aircraft. Due to the success of the LEO I computer, the British government commission a large investment into J. Lyons & Co. Ltd in goal of creating a microcomputer in ten years. Britain continues to wish that Japan would return Manchuria to the Chinese government, in recognition of Chinese sovereignty.

1951

 * Hungary's economy continues to recover.
 * The USA: Arkansas rejoins the Union. The former CS states vote to hold a constitutional convention for an ammendmant to prohibit the military from occupying them any longer, but the northern states vote it down.
 * France creates and begins manufacturing a new type of gun called an assault rifle. It is called the FA-51 short for Fusil automatique 1951 (automatic rifle). It is similar to the OTL AK-47.
 * Britain is very interested in the French development of the automatic rifle, and wishes to purchase shipments of the newly developed weapon. The British government will not give Spain Gibraltar, and fortifies the region to prevent a possible attack by Spain.