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If you are receiving this message, you are a member of the TSPTF. In an effort to keep this wiki in tip-top shape, I have made a list of responsibilities on the TSPTF page that I hope you all volunteer to do (at least three of them). If we work together we can make this place into a quality wiki. Mitro 22:17, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Balkanized Russia
I think you might like and i would like that you contribute to my new timeline, And Broke into Pieces, My Russia, in which Russia balkanize, please answer me. VENEZUELA 04:58, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Japan
So someone created a page without me knowing, you find it wrong, and you don't notify me about it? It has been over two months, and I had no idea about this conversation. I don't care, I just find it hilarious that I just found out about it =P --NuclearVacuum 01:45, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh? Sorry, I guess I never got that message. Sorry, but yes, those two did not get my permission to do make articles, but I don't mind. I just made a template for prop articles like this, so this should help out. --NuclearVacuum 13:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have changed way that articles are to be made on New Union. I have no problems with people adding their own articles, but as long as they add the NUProp template until it can be incorporated into the timeline. So if you happen to come across any more of these articles, feel free to add the template to the article. Thank you again. So besides that, how has everything been for you? --NuclearVacuum 15:27, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Things have been pretty good for me as well. Nothing as prestige as going to Zagreb University, though. Congratulations on gaining lieutenant, I hope I could get that high here some day. --NuclearVacuum 18:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Bosnia
I have been doing some thinking lately on the outcome of the Yugoslav wars. I think it would be better if a Bosnia state came out. So I have been rethinking the outlook of the region. Serbia would gain the Republika Srpska, Croatia would gain the Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia, while the remainder would be reorganized into a "Republic of Bosnia." What do you think about that? It might interest you that if I do make this up, Yugoslavia would loose area, but Croatia would gain a little more. --NuclearVacuum 18:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really can't say. I just feel bad for the Bosnians, and I don't think they should loose so much. Plus I can't think of any other nation like that which ceased to exist over a civil war. I have made a map that shows the territorial changes of the region, which I will post soon. --NuclearVacuum 13:26, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you wish to help out, feel free to. I am so glad that you are keen on the Columbia idea. It was an idea as part of an irony that this timeline would take on the world. Domestically and Internationally, the people went through so much to end the Soviet Union, leading to turmoil and tensions within the world. But the irony is if the USSR continued to exist (even a non-communist one), I see the world being greatly different. I am also thinking about the USSR assisting the US in the Afghan war, allowing the US efforts to successfully capture Osama bin Laden. The Columbia idea came from the fact that the USSR would be a greater help on the ISS, it would be built faster and better. With that, the US didn't need to feel pressured about a deadline, and would have taken a closer look at the film showing a piece of foam hitting Columbia. I thought having a heartwarming story like this was better than having the Soviets suffer a shuttle accident of their own. --NuclearVacuum 18:41, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

As from Luna-Glob, yes, it is a moon mission. It is the exact same as in OTL (Luna-Glob). --NuclearVacuum 20:13, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well like I mentioned before, I don't think the Soviets would have been able to get to the Moon within the timespan this timeline has taken. But I have been doing some thinking on the subject. Maybe the Soviets could reach the Moon much sooner than the Russians plan to in OTL. Maybe as early as 2012-2014. I recently came across an article that was written in 2005, which talks about that if Russia would fund it, cosmonauts could be landing on the Moon by 2012. I think that sounds quite interesting, maybe the USSR in TTL would be more keen on the subject. What do you think? But one thing I am thinking about is that I am not too sure if I am going to be around by 2012. Maybe we can make it happen sooner than that, maybe this year? --NuclearVacuum 21:34, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Let me correct myself, it's not that I don't think I won't be here, but rather I think I won't be interested in AH that much. But than again, you never know. But yeah, now that I am thinking about it, I think it is pretty premature to have a Moonshot in 2010. Bu I am all for a 2012 Moonshot. But the Soviet Moonshot needs to start somewhere. How about we have the first Soviet manned mission for a Lunar orbit in the late 2010-early 2011 timeline? I was also thinking a good cosmonaut would should be the first Soviet on the Moon. --NuclearVacuum 22:52, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Croatia
Thanks for the info. --Bill, 13:59 (EST), August 17, 2010

Flag
Yes of course! I'm gonna be based on Taliban and Chechen flag. I know how to draw and create all this because i'm artist (hobby). VENEZUELA 18:27, August 17, 2010 (UTC)



Muscovy/Novgorod
I was thinking about creating another large Russian survivor state in what was the western USSR, it would probable be more like the Rhineland Federation than a unified state though. I was wondering what you thought about this and whether you could help be out with it?Vegas adict 20:46, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah its quite late where i am as well, thanks for agreeing to help me out on this and for the advice on the location, i knew that most of the moscow area would be a wasteland but i couldn't think of where to put the possible stateVegas adict 21:03, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I was hoping that the creators of the ANZC and the other nations in the SI would posible put up a few quotes but as that hasn't happened we should probably get round to creating some quotes and media analysis as wellVegas adict 21:18, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Whats your feelings on creating other pages like you have for the USSR? I was thinking of doing pages on Rossosh, Andrey Tretyak and posibly the military or at the least the 6th Guards and 206th Motor Rifle DivisionVegas adict 16:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Good point, we should push for geting the main page graduated and finish of the Socialist Internation Conference firstVegas adict 07:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, something like that sounds about right for relations between the two. Though any thoughts of Belarus actually joining are out, as an fyi. Same goes for the Northenr Caucasian states too.

Feel free to add more. Like I told vegas, I've no problem with that, so long as you tell me.

And I also approve of the line about Greece as well, fyi.

Lordganon 09:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reaching out to the Nordic Union does definetly seem like a good idea, I'l talk to the creator about it. With regards to seperate pages for the statelets, prehaps only for the major states I.E Rossosh, Ukrainian Military Administration and Mordovia. As i said before I'm going to do a page on the 206th Motor Rifle Division and posibly for other subjects. Feel free to start any of the state pages though Vegas adict 12:16, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Slasher Horror Icons in Virginian Comics
I have some ideas for the involvement of several horror icons in Virginian Comics:
 * 1) Freddy Krueger- Instead known as the "Dream Master" and has much less murderous motivations.
 * 2) Jason Voorhees- Basically unchanged, except that he has ganed an inate ability that increases his intelligence every time he kills someone, as he absorbs the person's IQ along with their soul.
 * 3) Michael Myers- Killed in Doomsday, but his mask survived and whoever puts on the mask is posessed by his spirit.
 * 4) Leatherface- His murderous activities have continued unabated by Doomsday.

Also the murderous inbred mutants from "The Hills Have Eyes" could fit in the 1983: Doomsday universe very well.

Yankovic270 21:30, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Russia's flag and Coat
Here they are, because the country was created by a Communist dictator i created this, mixing people's Albania and Russian 1917 provisional governement. VENEZUELA 16:41, August 18, 2010 (UTC)



Venusian Haven
Hey, Vladivostok. I know how you said you are interested in space travel and stuff, well I though you might be interested in the new timeline I have been working on for a while now. In this timeline, Venus developed much like Earth, so it has become a lush planet with water and life. The timeline of Earth continues the same up until the space race, in which the characteristics of Venus are found out. Eventually the Soviet Union will be the first to land on Venus (Valentina Tereshkova =D), and a large Soviet colony exists there. I though you would like to check it out. --NuclearVacuum 17:30, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, Vlad. Sorry, I guess you can say I am not so much of a formal person. But anyway, yes, this is my big surprise. I didn't want to mention it until I had all the bugs worked out, but now I think it is about ready to go. As for your questions, yes. Venus will have a vast ecology of animals and plants. I am imagining a planet with lush rain forests and tropical jungles. However, no [current] Venusian species has evolved to be considered intelligent. I am envisioning a planet where humans can colonize, not invade. Sorry, I have seen the movie Avatar, and I just can't think of there being any kind of invasion of natives lands, so I'd prefer all the animal species be feral. That doesn't mean that there won't be any that are smart in their own way. I do have an interesting idea, but please don't make an article on it yet, in which explorers uncover an ancient city on Venus, but nothing more advanced than the Mayans or the Romans. I also have an interest in thinking that there would be a large population of carnivorous plants, a mock of Venus Flytraps, plus I find carnivorous plants very fascination.


 * As from New Union, please don't feel obligated about anything. Excuse me for my wording, but I am not expecting anything from you. I like to think of AltHist as fun and creative, not job or assignment. So please, don't feel obligated. Just have fun, that's what I am doing =D --NuclearVacuum 18:26, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * * Laughing Out Loud at Flying Jellyfish Idea *
 * No, I kid, that does sound like an interesting idea. As for the Soviet Union, I am thinking along the lines that the Venusian colonies became good nationalism for the Soviet Union, leading to the USSR remaining a union, but with major reforms by Gorbachev (much like the USSR in New Union). But anyway, I predict that the USSR would have colonies centered around the primary city of Gagaringrad (named after Gagarin), but several of them (and a vast amount of colonized area) would unite to form the first Venusian nation, New Kamchatka. I haven't put much though on other colonies yet. But as for other colonies, I am thinking of a joint Arab colony around the the "Artemis Sea" (because it is shaped like a crescent moon). I need to work out the events that lead to this, but something along the lines of Hussein showing more interest in colonies than invading Kuwait or Saudi Arabia. Both Kuwait and SA also show interest in colonies, leading to a join ESA-like entity for the Arab League, and transforming the Arab League into an Arab Union.


 * As for Doomsday, I really find that timeline quite interesting. A little dark for my liking, but I love to read it. But the main reason I haven't done anything with it is because I feel like it has all been carved up, and I was the last in line. But that hasn't stopped me from trying to come up with some ideas. --NuclearVacuum 18:46, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not to sound cocky, but this was one of the reasons I kept this timeline secret for a while. In fact, only a few nations (mostly the USSR and the USA) will have colonies on Venus. Maybe Arabia, Japan, Europe, but they would not be as extensive as the USSR/USA efforts. As for the technology, it would be a bit more advanced, if not equal to what the technology is in otl. Because Venus similar to Earth, colonization on Venus itself is nothing to worry about too much. The main obstacle is getting there. The idea I have is that the USSR took a huge gamble on getting to Venus. For the first cosmonauts, it will be a one way trip. The first rocket to be built there won't be until the mid to late 1990s. The Soviets wouldn't land there until the early 1980s. It's much more complex, but I will write the details on the Soviet efforts soon. --NuclearVacuum 19:32, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yugoslavia
That arangement sounds mutually beneficial to both of us.

Yankovic270 22:10, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Vlad and Yank, I am the creater of the Macedonia article and would like to know what you guys think about a possible alliance of the former Yugoslav states, for economic, military, and overall political purposes. Ownerzmcown 21:20, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

That seems to be a reasonable arrangement.

Yankovic270 21:17, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Owen
If you are receiving this message you are a member of the TSPTF. Owen, which is already causing ruckus, wants to be part of the TSPTF again ! He claimed that he did not vote for Smoggy so he could gain respect but then wrote on Louis' page what I am about to write below:"since I successfully nominated Smoggy, can I join the TSPTF now?" - Owen1983He doesn't get it, this guy. I suggest you respond to him. He does not get how we function, he does not understand how to write alternate history, hell, he barely knows how to write English, and he is a grade-A spammer. Some people are already complaining again and hes only been back for about a week or so. Please respond, Arstarpool

Ural Territory
Hey, Vlad.

On some maps I am thinking shrinkening/removing the presence of the Ural Territory because it creates an illusion that Siberia controls most all of Russia. It's just that the article states its pretty much a gateway for refugees to get into the country; and other than that its pretty much a military outpost. Many maps also overexaggerate how much is under Siberian control and I've seen one that shows all of Russia not under another country as Siberian. This is just my opinion that it shouldn't be included, since it is not really an integral part of the USSR, but I will change/remove the maps I have edited it as so far.

Respond when you can, Arstarpool

Middle East Geopolitics
I was thinking about developing something with the Middle East in 1983: Doomsday. Since the Turkey articles are largely complete, Iraq is getting there, and the basics of Syria, Lebanon, and Israel are already written, we can start diving deeper into the politics of the region. Since you are the writer of the Iran article, would you be interested in developing this more? I have also discussed this with Fxgentleman.

As I see it, we have three options.

1. Turkey-GSU (and possibly Israel) vs. Iran-Kurdistan-Pakistan

2. Turkey-Iran vs. ADC and/or Socialist Siberia

3. Middle East bloc composing all major nations

It certainly could prove interesting given the possible dynamics of the region. Get back to me when you can. Caeruleus 01:46, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Culture of Tibet
Would you mind if I wrote a couple of paragraphs on the culture of Tibet? I know quite a bit about pre-PRC Tibet and the Tibetan Empire and I was hoping I could write something up on the area. Arstar 03:52, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

USSR
I've started a page USSR (1983: Doomsday) it concentrates as much info on the USSR found all over the 1983:Doomsday pages onto just one page. It's about the basic history of the USSR, the events during DD and the time directly after DD. As you are the editor of the majority of the post-DD Soviet pages i thought you could have a look see if i've missed anything off that'll be relevent or gotten anything wrong (timings, names etc), it's only a basic page at the moment but i'm hoping to make it better over time. Thanks Smoggy80 18:59, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

MDL
Per our previous discussion, Bosnia has been made a fouding member of the, which is the defensive organization I mentioned. Also, Croatia and Slovenia will be invited to join, but whether they do or not is up to you. Caeruleus 21:13, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

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Adopting the USSR
Can i take over management of the USSR from you, I promise to stick with the general feal of it and maintain your plans while keeping it updated?Vegas adict 17:41, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Have you decided to start being active again?Vegas adict 18:31, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well i'm actualy glad that your considering it. Although I like Russia as a country and I am a socialist I only offered because I thought the USSR needed someone to look after it. With the recent expansion I think that tensions with the ADC won't be to large imediately, after all they claim to be democratic. The Nordic Union might make a fuss but the largest problem would be the RC and the other Russian states, Although they are no great friends with the USSR at the moment they have no great reason to fight them now and would be happy bickering amongst themselves. The joining of the USSR with the PUSSR might cause them to form an alliance against the USSR which would not be a good thing for the USSR.Vegas adict 18:59, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

USSR Map
Yeah, I suppose I could do it. I like making maps, funny enough.

Though, fair warning, I'll probably be the one arguing for the most limited area of expansion in the north, lol.

Lordganon 09:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Heh. Yeah, that's reasonable, though I would say that part of Northwestern Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug — Yugra would be a must too.

As for Murmansk Oblast, I'd avoid it. Sapmi is actually in negotiations as of a few months ago to join the NU - which I had forgotten about and should remind Cheese of - and they probably, given the situation of the Sapmi in the Union already, have joined by now.

Note that the map will be later rather than sooner, I'd expect, but should be done before you think you'll announce the expansion.

Lordganon 09:57, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Northwestern Territory works well as a name.

I'd go with a site in Ark~ Oblast myself.

Lordganon 10:32, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, Vlad. I'd figured it was an accident. Lordganon 07:12, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

^_^
Long time no see^_^ How have you been? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:38, April 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can understand. It's good to take brakes every now and again. Glad to hear you have been doing well. Yes, NU has been getting a makeover lately (or it will). --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:53, April 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not at all. Forgive me for sounding corny, but I took into account your EU before I made any changes. The Neutral Bloc only declare themselves neutral between NATO and the CSTO. The EU would be seen not as a choosing of sides, but as a means of securing and protecting European sovereignty from both the USSR and the USA. Granted, there are more NATO members in the EU, the EU would be taken (by the USSR) as a unique entity, not a pro-western or anti-Soviet organization. So simply, the US would love it, and so would the USSR. I want to continue to think of the EU as potentially federalizing into a USA or USSR-like state in the future (no dates yet). Does that help? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:54, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Cities in the Former USSR
Added a list of the largest surviving cities in the Former USSR to the cities article today, with my guesses as to current populations. Figured I'd let you know. If you think any in Siberia, or anywhere, really, are off, lemme know. Lordganon 06:49, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Moravia (1983: Doomsday)
I was wondering if you could help me with my latest article. It's about another survivor state in former Czechoslovakia. Does your area of expertise extend to the area? I'm planning on it still being a communist dictatorship, but based around the philosophy of Alexander Dubček.

Yank 17:45, October 5, 2011 (UTC)