User talk:Tbguy1992/Archive 2

Couple of Things....
1. I'm about to start making individual state pages for Napoleon's World (for US states) and my love affair with fictional states/cities/so on is about to start in earnest. When I'm making Kahokia, based on your current residence in Manitoba, what would you suggest I do to make it more plausible/fictional, in terms of Napoleon's World? Winnipeg is obviously the capital/largest city, but would the intricacies of the TL have any effects on the state itself that you can foresee?

2. I'm doing a poll again to see who should win the May 1, 2011 English general election. The candidates are Hugh Grant of the Whig Party and Jack Davenport of Labour. Obviously, in OTL Hugh Grant is everybody's favorite stuttering, hopelessly romantic Englishman, and Jack Davenport was Commodore Norrington in the Pirates of the Caribbean series.

3. You mentioned you wanted me to let you know when I had something of the Napoleon's World novel series? I've started two minor projects (I have many other more developed writing projects ongoing) that I could email you if you wanted to take a peek. Neither is particularly long, no more than about ten pages on MS Word so far.

4. Any new ideas for NW? :D

KingSweden 21:05, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

CYOAH New PoD
I have an idea about being a high-ranking officer in WWII. Can I make such a CYOAH? Wattman 17:56, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW Russia addition
Hi. I went through your French Trafalgar TL and I think its really good, and plausible at the same time. I really like it. I wonder if you need some help with the Russia page, seing as its not very good. Since I'm a Russian I could help you with it.

Ayaa 11:33, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Responsibilities to the TSPTF
Don't feel too bad, I've had a lot on my plate as well and didn't find out Mitro had put me in charge till like 2 weeks after his resignation. Got Dragon Age 2 and got sucked into that for 2 weeks only to have the girlfriend get real sick and had to take care of her and the kid as well as working 10 hours a day. Just keep up with doing what you can for now, and when you feel you're up to it you can get back in the stride.Oerwinde 07:56, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. BTW what exactly are the boundaries, imean could you give me some general ideas or a sort of framework i can work with, so that I dont mess up your althist. Ayaa 13:15, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Feedback of FTBW
I'm liking the parallels, but you should be careful of just rehashing OTL. What is more important to me is the treatment of Quebec and the Pacific Republic. It seems to me that Quebec controls majority English-speakign areas like Nova Scotia. And more importantly, the Pacifics have been independent for a long time. Ther has been a bloody war, but even so, I doubt the Pacifics woyuld give in so easily. Mumby 17:30, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh don't worry, I'm not saying your whole thing is a rehash, and I understand those difficulties. As an aside, whats kicking off on my home turf? I like to know what life would be like for me in alternate histories. Mumby 18:32, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

So no hope of a united Britain then? Or will England become some sort of North Korea analogue, and Scotland becomes more English from migration from an increasingly oppressive and stagnant regime. Mumby 16:16, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

UN o LoN in FTBW?
Hi Tbguy! How are you? :) I read the section about Quebec and Scotish Missle Crisis here and i noticed that you mentioned to the United Nations in 2 parts: French and US Ambassadors to the United Nations in St. Petersburg. And a UN inspection team would oversee this process. According the same article, the organization by this time in FTBW is the League of Nations, nor the UN. jejeje ^^U Was a confusion or you will change the organization? Regards! :) --Katholico 20:16, May 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ohh i see. Well, if you ask me, might be Council of Sovereign Nations (CSN) or Organization of Sovereign Nations, (OSN). I used a similar term for a IO from one of my timelines in spanish wikia jejeje. What think? :) Regards! --Katholico 01:05, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I do not know if you noticed, about the south american nations, i wrote the history of Chile, Peru, Argentina and Bolivia until the end of the Third Global War, because you are currently working in the years after this war and i don't know which is exactly situation of the continent is this epoch, yet. I think that when you finish with this years, I will continue writing about the history of countries. :) Regards! --Katholico 21:41, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

500
We have now reached 500 articles on Napoleon's World. Thanks for all your continuing support and interest!

KingSweden 16:18, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I finished WW1 on The Last Chance for Peace. I could use an implausibility check, and just to see if I missed anything important. Thank you.Azecreth 23:34, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... not trying to tell you how to do your work or anything, but on the British Waterloo page you forgot to add Delaware as a state in the United States. Just a note. Good Luck!

Novels
I'm gonna finally get around to start working on some of those Napoleon's World novels I've always wanted to do. I was wondering if you had any suggestions what time period/events would make for the most interesting setting?

I had a few ideas, but I wanted to hear from you first.

KingSweden 00:09, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I definitely agree that the Anarchy would be a great place to explore. There'd be a wealth of stories you could tell there. The Iron Revolution would be good, but it would require shrinking in size and focusing on something specific, like a certain person caught up in it... maybe from the perspective of Pierre Tital in the midst of the chaos and focus on the social aspects of 1920's France?

The only current project I have is about a left-behind in the Pacific Northwest following the Alaskan War who falls into crime, which I'm not really happy with so far.

KingSweden 02:15, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

I need to flesh out the French Civil War here first before I can reliably portray it properly. The Roman Revolution would be an interesting aspect of the Civil War to explore, especially because it isn't tied into France per se.

That's the problem with the top-down approach - picking what you want to write about when there's such a variety you could do :P. That's also the problem with writing about whatever I want to whatever day I feel like it, since I don't have a long, thought-out and established timeline in the chronological way you did.

KingSweden 19:32, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Venezuelan war
Hi Tbuguy1992! I read about the Venezuelan war, and I found some big errors. First I think you should use Marcos Perez Jimenez as the revolution leader, along the generation of 28 (Betancourt, Leoni, and other important venezuelan figures) could fight along against the invaders. Then Perez Jimenez could take the power and modernize Venezuela like he did in OTL, then maybe a failed coup made by his "allies" to take control, maybe Delgado Chalbaud, so he kill most, and I forgot maybe he could exile the generation of 28 after he took power as a dictator, son then people unhappy with the dictatorship after a decade of foreign control do a revolution and the generation of 28 return to power, (Lusinchi, would possible not existed), finally AD, URD, and COPEI create a tri-partidism system that may last until today or could collapse in the 1990s, with new leaders of other parties taking power, maybe Henrique Salas Romer or Irene Saez, and for today Capriles Radonski, Leopoldo Lopez, Antonio Ledezma, or Manuel Rosales. Regards VENEZUELA 23:39, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Fascism (French Trafalgar, British Waterloo)
Regarding the use of the term "Fascism" for the political system, *here* it came to be used because groups of like minded people were called fascio (meaning bundle) in Italy and the one that came to form the basis of the Italian Fascist Party was the "Fasci italiani di combattimento". If the ideology emerged from France, it probably would have a different name, maybe "integralism" which was coined by journalist Charles Mauras. Marcpasquin 23:49, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Guyanas in FTBW
Hi Tbguy how are you?! :) I have a question, what is the situation of the Guayanas countries (i mean Guayana, Suriname, French Guyana) in FTBW? In the map after the Third Global War appear only one territory. Regards! --Katholico 01:31, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this sound fine. :)

But i have other questions, i hope don't mind you jeje. First, what is the name of this french overseas colony? French Guyana like OTL or other name? And, other point that i will like ask is about the carribean situation. The initially reunites all the islands, but this country eventually collapse and is succeded by the government of the, right? What islands remain under control Hispaniola and what others fall under control from another countries like CSA, Britain, etc? Regards and thanks! --Katholico 23:45, August 12, 2011 (UTC)




 * Jejeje I just search unclear points in the timeline :P Thanks for your patience :) Well, i made a preliminary map about the alliances in America after Brazil Collapse. The only doubt related this that I still have is the, because originally you wrote here that the country join to the US sphere, but later you placed the country as a affiliate of the . As a puppet-state of Brazil maybe join along with Brazil to the Frenchs. What thinks? Regards! --Katholico 01:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, sounds perfect the idea of a coup. The new government probably would lead by thw peruvian Francisco Morales Bermúdez and bolivian David Padilla. Regards! --Katholico 03:19, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Riel's Canada
Hey, Tbguy, I was wondering if I may adopt your timeline, Riel's Canada? Just let me know on my talk page whenever you read this. ChrisL123 17:20, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I understand. But I would be ecstatic for it to be a collaborative project between the three of us (if Yank is okay with that). I did ask him on his talk page (LG let me know that he was apart of it, too.) I do see this timeline being a great one. ChrisL123 03:36, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Next Meeting
You said you'd only be available for another meeting in September. It's now September, and I'd like to ask you when you would like to meet next.

Yank 04:48, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm good for next Tuesday. Same time, same place. 4:30-6:30 in the St Vital Mall Food Court. I'll amend it if it turns out I can't come on the 20th.

Yank 03:52, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

What does a test on Friday have anything to do with it? I said I was available Tuesday.

Yank 04:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

If you're not available on September 20th (though I still don't know why a test four days earlier prevents it), would you be available on the 26th?

Yank 15:55, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ideology in Brazil (FTBW)
If the United States promoves the Democracy, and the rules the French Empire... in the Brazilian Empire there was some ideology in specific? Regards! --Katholico 06:21, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Help with my timelines

 * OK, understood.
 * I really glad in help in your timeline, is a amazing work (countries, wars, ideologies, etc)!! And thanks for you offer! :D Would be a honor if you could help me. As you maybe know, only in the spanish wikia i have own works:
 * Chile No Socialista: timeline focus principally in the chilean politics; the Christian Democrats and the Rightist sectors defeat Allende in 1970, and eventually formed an alliance that govern Chile until today. There is too a failed socialist revolution and an war in South America based in the OTL Beagle Conflict.
 * Presidente Portales: A timeline which POD is the survival of the Tri-Minister Diego Portales in 1837 (key in the consolidation and stability of the Chilean Republic) Originally this history stay inactive for a time, but later I read your timeline, and I must say that FTBW inspired to me to continue with Presidente Portales. jeje ^_^U However, i'm revising the articles that i wrote until now, and I realized that probably several things (like countries or wars) are impossible or need to be improved. Because this, for example i asked to South Writer for help for the US history after the American-Mexican War and the Civil War. Probably, in this timeline you could help me. In my case, the history of North America and Europe is my weakness. Regards! --Katholico 21:48, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, no problem :) i put the links just for that you to have a look to the timelines. Anyway, yes i have questions... one of the countries with more "protagonism" in PP (Presidente Portales timeline), for the moment, is France. I wrote that the Second French Empire survives and Bonaparte Dinasty of Napoleon III continues. How i made that this happen? Originally i put that France defeat to Prussia in 1870, but later Prussia take revenge in a major war in 1875 (which begin due to an european involvement in a late american civil war this year) and create the German Empire; an civil war erupt in France against Napoleon III, but somehow ultimately he result victorious. :/
 * However, now i see that this result is very complicated and probably make no sense. What thinks? Is possible somehow the survival of the Napoleon III's Empire? Regards and thanks! --Katholico 03:48, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for resolve this doubt. :) I will follow your opinion for the French Empire.
 * Another thing that i like ask is about the fate of Alaska (stay under Russian control or is sold to the US) and if could become in an independent nation. In OTL the russian territory was sold to the US in 1867. In ATL, Lincoln was elect president in 1864; his first term principally focuses in a threat of an new conflict with Mexico. As soon as this ends, the American civil war erupt in 1868 and end an stalemate. Considering this US scenary, what thinks? Maybe I need consider the situation of the British Canada? Reards! --Katholico 22:17, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, so Alaska remain as an Russian territory. Effectively, I think that the russian-british relations would be same to OTL. Thanks, I will read Wikipedia for continue with the Canadian history.
 * By the way, you think that the survival of the Second French Empire (about that we had spoken before) might cause some effect in the geopolitics in Europe or in the colonialism in Asia and Africa? or basically the things continue in the same way until the First World War at least? --Katholico 00:46, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help! I will consider the issue of Bismarck. For the moment, i think that i will continue with the timeline until the beginning of XX Century, and i will explore the history of Asia, another continent that i need improve. By the way, i'm reading this page of FTBW and i noticed maybe an mistake in the next paragraph:


 * The majority of the fighting took place in Western Europe, in the Confederation of the Rhine and the Netherlands, and ultimately into the French Empire itself by 1862, but not before both Prussia and Britain were nearly defeated in 1860.


 * This line is about the First Global War, where Prussia and Britain won, no were defeated. I don't know if this is written correctly or maybe I'm reading wrong (After all, my english is STILL basic xD jeje). --Katholico 03:21, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh i see, then, i read wrong xD
 * No problem, in fact the other day i moved the peru-bolivian confederation from the EDA to Juneau Pact, according that we had spoken before.
 * By the way, maybe have another doubt; i will explain to you the situation: In my timeline, the American-Mexican War was won by Mexico due to the intervention of Chile and Brazil, which was lead by the chilean minister Diego Portales. However also I made that Spain interfering in the conflict as result of the chilean-brazilian diplomacy. I'm trying that the join of Spain to the latin-american's side take place maybe when the war arrive to his climax (a mexican counter-attack in Texas), as a form for that the US government consider surrendering... as US don't accept this initially, the spanish army invade Florida, and finally when to war reach to the Mississippi, the US accept his defeat. In the aftermath, I consider give Florida to Spain (Despite that a couple of decades before Spain sold this territory), while Mexico don't lost the territory that lost in OTL and also recovers Texas. However as this northern mexican territories (California, New Mexico, Arizona) by this time has not much population, and as the efforts of Mexico are still focused in to build a solid government, they give to Chile and Brazil the territory of California for his administration. Well, what thinks about alll this? Make sense or some things like the intervention of Spain, are unrealistic? Please be free for correct me. Thanks!! --Katholico 03:34, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, actually, the POD is precisely which explain the change of the US-Chile relations; Diego Portales was an important critic of USA in Chile, he don't trust in them. One of much things that seem to me very intersting to write this ATL is precisely this point. Bassically, He was a visionary leader, and with the timeline i explore the course of the history if he don't be killed yoo young. But well, anyway, thanks for you help! I will change some things so. :D Regards! --Katholico 05:13, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Understand now the things, thanks. :)
 * By the way, i can ask to you some help for my other timeline Chile No Socialista? Specifically, about the international situation in the timeline. For the moment, the principal changes are limited to South America, but principally due to a war in 1978 between Chile, Argentina and his allies. I have been treating to see if are possibles some another changes in the world but it seems that probably the history in general would have remain the same. Also, I tried to change some presidents in the USA, put Ted Kennedy in 1981 (because he would have an important role to finish the war in South America)... but besides the vialibity of this, now i realized that i haven't a coherent plan for the U.S. for my timeline... stay the same would the better for a history as the mine?... Anyway, if you give any opinion, i would be glad. Regards! --Katholico 03:46, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I had not seen the 4,000 edits xD jaja Thanks!!!
 * I now undertand, thanks very much for the explanation. In this case, maybe it would be better to leave the U.S. presidencies without changes... honestly, about Kennedy, i think that originally i put him just for have a important international change in my timeline, but without considering the consequences... the central idea of my TL, is that South America remain anti-communist but the dictatorships end early and the democracy is consolidated more rapidly. Regards and thanks! --Katholico 05:19, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. In my timeline, the Falklands War don't happen (because instead in 1978 the South American War took place). So, what changes you think that this could bring to England's government? Regards! --Katholico 04:01, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW questions and other
Almost i forget another things that i noticed in FTBW... in this article you wrote Pan-Eurasian Defensive Alliance... i assume that you refer European Defensive Alliance... is correct? --Katholico 02:13, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just an doubt... Argentina was not one of the before Third Global War? Regards! :) --Katholico 04:10, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi tbguy! I hope you don't mind but i fix some things in the Nations page. As the Peru-Bolivian Confederation fell under US influence change his government simply to dictatorship. Regards! --Katholico 04:36, October 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi again! I'm working in the south american articles and I was asking me what you think about the possibility that Sorelist governments were elected democratically bewteen 1960's and 1970's in countries like Chile and/or Argentina? i mean, given the international scenario with the Venezuelan War put Brazil and Colombia at the edge of the abyss, the US support the venezuelans, and the French Empire with 1973 revolution, what you think that could happen? Regards! --Katholico 02:38, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * mmm, ok, but... if an Chilean sorelist win by narrow margin but in 1968 (before the french repression)? The reason for which I ask this is because I was thinking about something similar to Allende OTL (but with different final)... my idea is that this government would not have a successor (in 1972 the election will be won by liberal-conservatives or socialists/radicals)... at the end just would be a minor case in the Tri-Powers Conflict. Anyway, is just an idea. Regards! --Katholico 03:30, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's a good question... just we decided that south america would be divided between US and France, but we not talked about the specific case of Chile. According this section, only after the collapse of Brazil, Chile, like as the other South American nations, Chile join to the Juneau Pact... but in the page of the you put that Chile enter to the alliance in the year of 1953. I'm not sure what think you is better? before o after to the fall of Brazil? Regards! --Katholico 17:49, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi again! I fix the construction template in Pacific Republic, but also i noticed that you translate the name of the country as República Pacifica but the correct spanish name i think should be República del Pacífico. Regards! --Katholico 03:12, November 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! Is a honor help you in your really great timeline :D But, what think about the previous matter? When Chile join to the Juneau Pact? Regards! --Katholico 02:41, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Americas in FTBW
Hi, Tb, it has been a long time. I don't know if I ever congratulated you on FTBW, so, congrats. I like the idea of the south winning, and even the 'occupation' after the global war. I figure this would be because the two nations were on different sides during that last conflict. Anyway, I'll look over the time line a little more, but it looks about right as you describe it. I'm busy trying to jumpstart the American articles on 1983DD right now, but I'll be glad to look at whatever you develop in the latter 19th and early 20th century for the Americas. SouthWriter 03:30, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I have to concede, you are doing a fine job, but the work is far too biased toward a socialist worldview. If you develop the Democracies into more conservative, capitalistic nations, perhaps you can move toward a balance that would 'make sense.' If you need any help in developing some conservative republics, based on the US constitution and traditional values, let me know. I might be able to put together some scenarios that might just work. Meanwhile, study up on the principles of American conservatism, especially economic theory. You state that you're for free enterprise, as long as its regulated (a bit of socialism never hurt - lol), so capitalism is not foreign to you. Try to look at things from different points of view and stack the facts against the opinion. The real world never works the way we want it too, and neither should good fiction. SouthWriter 00:14, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Hey TB, long time no see. I'm a much better map gamer now, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Check out the Axis vs Allies Revised Map Game. It's pretty sweet, with a United Nations where we can vote on resolutions, etc. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:24, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, do you mean the Axis vs Allies, or Axis vs Allies Revised? Because the first AvA failed pretty miserably. Also, check out Principia Moderni if you haven't already. Detectivekenny "invented" the idea of an algorithm to figure out wars, and it's working pretty sweet. AvAr also has it. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 23:31, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hello Again!
Hey man! It's been a while. Hows school going?

I was looking over FTBW, very impressed - you've done some excellent work. Taking inspiration from real-world events led me to begin developing my Cinco De Mayo timeline, but that thing's got some work. Anyways, I had some ideas for the Gulf States Confederacy, at least in regards to the various dictators who could have been in control of it. People like Richard Russell, George Wallace and maybe even Jimmy Carter could have been members of the single-party dictatorship (maybe Jimmy Carter being somewhat analogous to Gorbachev in his slow but steady movement towards a reunification with the northern parts of the Confederacy.

Let me know what you think!

KingSweden 04:07, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

A good resource for the Southern United States is usually SouthWriter - I've never spoken to him myself, but I know he's very highly regarded on this wiki and knows a lot about the history of that region, which due to the dominance of the Democratic Party in that region from the late 1870's all the way to 1994 lends itself well to a single-party state. In the 1940's and 1950's, the Republicans often didn't even contest general election races in places like ALabama or Mississippi, since the Democratic primary more or less determined the winner. Althists with a "List of Presidents of the Confederacy" could be good too, as long as you keep an eye on what states the people are from.

I'll do what I can on sports, maybe cook up some new team names for the ATL US states. My expertise lies mostly with collegiate and professional football.

KingSweden 15:46, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Perot and Byrd
I spotted something I thought may be worth pointing out - Ross Perot is a Texan, which from what I've surmised isn't a part of the United States in FTBW. Is he from the North in this TL? Also, Robert Byrd was from West Virginia - otherwise, he'd have been a Confederate ;)

KingSweden 06:13, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I definitely liked the picks! Just thought I'd point that out, but you've obviously already thought of that. Ted Turner, I like that its a good choice.

KingSweden 16:15, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Overcategorization
The title sums it up, really. It's already in the Scandinavia category, so there is no need for the others. Thus, overcategorization. Lordganon 05:41, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Titanic & SAC (DD)
Hi! Ok, i read the discussion and i liked you idea about the Titanic. Almost 28 years since the Doomsday, and the scientific explorations in differente areas, obviously, should continue. The Titanic search seems to me a good option. Now, about an possible SAC's involvement in the matter, i think this perfectly paussible, given that the South America is one of the continents that leads in technological advances in Doomsday. However, there is not, YET, a official scientific branch in the SAC (the article in itself need improve in several parts), which could lead this expedition. So, we should create first a entity for this. Scientific institutions from Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Venezuela should the first for to contribute in this area, thought. In any case, i coincide with LG in the point that probably in 2012, just begin the search. The discovery should occurs in a couple of years more. I hope that this helps you. If you need any other thing, just let me know. Regards! --Katholico 04:37, October 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, yes, the generator seems to me a good idea, as well as the dates of the beginning of the search. Regards! :) --Katholico 18:07, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Fractured America
Very well, I will no longer edit previous turns, you are right. Dont worry, it wont happen again.

DeanSims 15:12, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

HELLO THERE!!!!!!!!!
Hello there! I liked your CYOAH timeline! I have a new timeline, called: China's Decision. In this POD, China will decide whether to westernize or not, that will lead to a different course of history. Do you like it?

RandomWriterGuy 22:13, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Re:HELO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry about it. The China's Decision TL in this TL was actually a proposal. Sorry for the confusion.

RandomWriterGuy 17:11, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re:re:HELLO THERE!!!!!!!!!
The POD of China's Decision is this:

Japan, still grasping to its traditions, angrily refuses Matthew Perry's offer, forcing him and the Japanese to go to battle. The Americans get the upper hand and squash the Japanese. Yet to make up for this failure, he decides to go to China. He gets to China, asking the government to open trade to western governments. The Chinese are between a rock and a hard place: they don't want to trade, but after hearing new about the incident in Japan, they have a difficult choice to make.

And the player decides which route to take.

Hope this answers your question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

RandomWriterGuy 05:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fractured America
Hi, basically the Dutch are planning to invade France, take some of North France, and some French colonies. Germany can join in and take some French colonies as well as some of France proper too if they like; VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:49, November 15, 2011 (UTC).


 * Well you wanna join in with my invasion of them? You could take some of European France, and then claim some of the French colonies as war reparations. The Netherlands are looking at taking Some of North European France, French Guiana, Saint Marten, Saint-Barthelemy, and French Congo. You can take whatever else you like :D VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:36, November 16, 2011 (UTC).

So are you up for it? I'll be attacking soon... VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 15:45, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW Questions
Hello, I have a few questions for you: Enjoy these questions! :D
 * 1) Why would Napoleon make peace with Britain? I doubt he would do that if he actually did win Trafalgar.
 * 2) Why didn't Napoleon want to conquer the rest of Europe (including Russia)?
 * 3) Does France have any large colonial ambitions?
 * 4) Does China westernize in this timeline?
 * 5) Will Latin America gain independence?

P.S.: Can I make the article "China's Decisions" in the CYOAH?

RandomWriterGuy 18:29, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleon's World College Football Pick'em 2011
It's that time of year again! Time for the annual Napoleon's World college footbal bowl picks. For each game, pick which team you want to win and the results will be used to determine the winner of each bowl in January!

National Championship (Rose Bowl): 2 Cuba Spaniards (13-0) vs. 1 Pacifica Orcas (13-0)

Texas Bowl: (6) Alabama Crimson Tide (11-1) vs. (5) Iowa Hawkeyes (12-1)

Orange Bowl: (17) Peninsula Raptors (10-2) vs. (7) Florida State Seminoles (11-1)

Silver Bowl: (11) Washington Huskies (10-2) vs. (4) Sequoyah Braves (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: (14) Eastern New York Flying Dutchmen (10-2) vs. (3) Mississippi Falcons (12-1)

Peach Bowl: (16) Virginia Cavaliers (10-3) vs. (10) LSU Tigers (11-2)

Chicago Bowl: (12) Louisiana Pelicans (10-2) vs. (13) Michigan State Spartans (11-2)

Manhattan Bowl: (20) Notre Dame Fighting Irish (9-3) vs. (8) Massachusetts Minutemen (10-2)

Paradise Bowl: (9) San Diego Tritons (12-1) vs. (18) Northern Colorado Billy Goats (11-1)

Citrus Bowl: (15) Montana State (11-2) vs. (16) Nova Scotia (10-2)

KingSweden 23:16, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Napoleonic Wars
Hi.

I trying to make an TL, were Napoleon wins the Napoleonic Wars (I know very common), but I was wondering if you any POD's that could work, besides Waterloo. Enclavehunter 07:33, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

What if Admiral Nelson was defeated at the Battle of the Nile. Could that work?Enclavehunter 16:45, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think I would do an TL, where the Louisanna Purchase dosn't go through-appreciate the idea-, but how can I put that without being implausible. I was thinking if Thomas Jefferson wasn't elected, or if John Adams was the 3rd President and Thomas Jefferson was the 2nd President. Enclavehunter 08:32, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. And good luck on your TL.Enclavehunter 23:09, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

FTBW Sports
I can actually do both for you, with a bit of background information. I've made logo edits with MS Paint since most logos are such simple designs that edits can be made relatively easily without the need of a more sophisticated product. I would love to do gridiron for you, but I'd like to know a little more about the nature of the Confederate States (even after the post-WWII split) to figure out what the sports in those states would be like.

KingSweden 21:34, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

FTBW Plans
Do you have any plans for the 2010s period for FTBW? RandomWriterGuy 00:39, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

War of 1812 in FTBW
I am a little confused on the concept of the War of 1812 in FTBW. If America is going to war against Britain, why can't France support America? I mean, could they gain land from Britain by doing this? RandomWriterGuy 04:49, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Joseph McCarthy (FTBW)
Maybe you noticed this, but for safety I ask you jeje McCarthy dies in OTL in 1957 but due to his alcoholism. You will changes this in the TL or to the President? Regards! --Katholico 21:36, January 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Understand, thanks :) By the way, the Association internationale de Football (AIF) is the OTL FIFA, right? --Katholico 01:34, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. If need help to expand this article, i will be glad to assist to you. Regards!! :D PS: Not forget put about the Chile situation in the . --Katholico 00:32, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I hope don't mind, but i read something from that you wrote to Enclavehunter and i believe that i must applied the same thing to my TLs, because i also wrote first an list of wars and now I have had to revize and to modify several things that i wrote. jeje ^_^U Regards! --Katholico 05:15, January 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * In this article some sections are repeated :O --Katholico 00:36, January 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Understand. If need some help in this or other thing from FTBW, just let me know. :) Regards! --Katholico 02:42, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I have a request
i will be gone for a few days, i will ask Saamwill, Imperium Guy, and Crimson Assassin to help with this.I need you to take over for me on my map games. I would realy apreciate it if you could do this for me, thanks a bunch if you can, I realy hope you can, and dont worry about me announcing your taking control on the map games, your an admin, theyll trust you. The reason I have asked you and 3 other people si because if some cant or they bail, my countries will be screwed over, and I can t allow that.
 * 1) Fractured America: I am the United States of America, expand the Tanzania colony as much as you can every turn and dont forget to mention it. Defend all of your possessions and if questioned on the talk page about the referendum results, defend my results, I actualy did use the Random.org for them. Stay at peace if you can, if not, make sure you can win and get as much out of it if you can, if you can, back down at the least cost.
 * 2) American Empire: Stand up against Russia and continue to help France in its war against Prussia and Austria. 28,000 troops are in France and Prussia under US Command, you currently occupy Munich. try and keep Russia on your good side.
 * 3) Mesaíonas Map Game: Persia: try and expand as much as possible without angering User Controlled Nations.
 * 4) States of America 4: You are the CSS (Southron), keep expanding your military and navy as well as industry, nuclear research, and agriculture. When 1934.0 arives, avoid alliances and expand as much as you can without causing war against other nations. DO NOT join WW2, last time I did I got crushed.
 * 5) Principia Moderni: You are the Incan-Colombian Republic, or ICR, keep at peace as much as is possible. Your allies are Russia and Turan.

thanks,

DeanSims 21:40, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting
Unfortunately I cannot meet you today. My parents had to go to a friend's funeral. I may be able to meet with you later in the week, but I have to discuss it with my mom when she returns.

Yank 23:55, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

I'll be in Winnipeg tommorrow sometime arround noon. I have no idea when I am going to be in the St Vital Area so I have to ask you something. Do you have a cellphone I can contact you with?

Yank 03:42, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hello.
Hey. I made an new timeline called Puissance Réelle, it was inspired by yours and Napoleon's World (I know, very common?), I was trying to make it orginial, and I was wondering if you can review the two pages: the actual page, and the List of Wars. Hope you like it, and please construction criticism is helpful. Enclavehunter 02:21, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

First, sorry for making it feel similiar, and thanks for the criticism, and I promise I won't try to make it all similiar to yours. How do you think Napoleon would deal with Russia. I was thinking of him waiting and invading Russia during the Spring of 1806, which would give them summer and autumn to conquer the Russians. Enclavehunter 03:35, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. So if Russia is knocked out of the fight, as is Prussia and Austria, did Napoleon have any other enemies in Europe he would have to deal with in order to achieve continental dominance. Well, besides Britain, I have plans for them. Enclavehunter 05:19, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hey again. I was wondering if you can give me your opinion on what I was thinking when I get to the years after the Atlanitc War (War of 1812) parts of the timeline. In this TL, Britain lost the war, due to being invaded by France, while its main army is distracted by the Americans. What do you think about the following? Enclavehunter 02:30, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Russia keeps Alaska, and claim the remainder of British Canada.
 * 2) The US claims southern Canada.
 * 3) France claims Quebec, Newfoundland, and Labrador parts of British Columbia.
 * 4) Ireland gets Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales declares independence.
 * 5) Much of the former colonies gain independence.

Video Games (FTBW)
Hey. I have an few suggestions (Don't have to accept them) for the video games section of your TL. Here they are:

Supreme Ruler 2020 (2009): An strategy game in which you can control any nation of the modern era, such as the United States or France, and fight for world domination.

Fallouts 1 (1997) and 2 (1999), as well as Fallout 3 (2008), after an fictional nuclear war between France, United States, and other countries. Civilization must recover, and some new countries may emerge from the ruins, such as the New California Republic or the French Legion. Enclavehunter 05:32, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

AIF World Cups (FTBW)
Hi again Tbguy! I has been thinking, and, if you want, i can help you with the football cups in FTBW. Maybe i have a couple of ideas for the event. I don't know what you think or if you already have an idea for? PS: You have a new idea for Latin America situation in the present of FTBW? --Katholico 17:26, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. Then, I will begin soon the AIF article, and I will consult with you what think about.
 * That sounds very interesting. Will be maybe something like the, but with other name?. Regards! --Katholico 17:51, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I created the article, but i want consult with you some things: As the Olympic Games began early in 1888, then, i also put the world cups begun before, in 1922. What thinks about? And, i think that is better put in the same page, the list of World Cups, and you? Regards! --Katholico 06:13, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was considering some location in a "neutral" country as in OTL is Switzerland, but if want Bordeaux, for me no problem. :) Now i will write about the world cups. If need that i change something, let me know. Regards! --Katholico 06:40, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Make sense. However what country should be the first host? I put to Uruguay like OTL but because would be a "new" nation after the Second Global War and maybe consider as neutral. The other option in mind was Sweden because remain neutral during the war. I don't what you think is better? By the way, i noticed that you put Chile as winter games host in 1978. Originally i was thinking about that date the country fell into economic crisis due to Brazilian collapse. Is possible to change the date? Regards! --Katholico 07:16, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much! Well, i put France then as first host, and added others until the war. I thinking put Persia also as host time before the first middle eastern war. Regards! --Katholico 22:31, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I assume that the African Football League that appear in the Media article is the main federation for that continent, but for the rest of the continents? How they should be organized? I mean, Asia should include Australasia or Europe include some part of Asia? I ask because maybe as in the Napoleon's World timeline, the political scenario of FTBW might influence in this. Regards! --Katholico 03:01, January 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * So, what you think should be the continental federations? --Katholico 04:51, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Jeje In this case, thanks for trust in me for this. I will try to made the better it. And If later you have an suggestion for the game, let me know. Regards! PS: Do you heard about the Football War between El Salvador and Honduras in OTL? --Katholico 05:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, i'm not exactly suggesting that be between latin america nation like OTL, maybe in other side of world, in other year, with countries in similar situation, but just was an idea. You decided if is useful or not. Regards! :) --Katholico 06:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * By the way, i forgot to say that i finish with the selection of host for World Cups, what you think? Regards! --Katholico 03:54, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Brazilian Empire End?
According the timeline, the Empire of Brazil continues, at least, until the Third Global War. After that, Brazil appear being ruled by Emílio Garrastazu Médici (a dictador?) by the time of the Venezuelan War, and after, the country fell into an civil war. In the mid time between that events, what you think that happen with the Brazilian Monarchy? My first thought is that Brazil became an dictatorship (we talk before about that the Brazilian Bloc in fact was composed by some dictatorships in South America) after the 1950's, but since the country WON the Global War, this seems to me unlikely, or at least maybe need be discussed... what is your opinion? Regards! --Katholico 01:26, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Nice new work with Brazil, i will add this to the article! --Katholico 03:00, January 17, 2012 (UTC)




 * I changed the Brazilian flag and coat now that is a republic? Regards! --Katholico 04:46, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * In this case, is ok if i try to made a new flag for Brazil? --Katholico 16:12, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably i will use as base the OTL Flags. When i have a prototype ready, i will show to you. Regards! --Katholico 16:22, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, here is my first version. I used the coat (without dates because i don't know how added) and part of the flag of the United States of Brazil. What you thinks? Maybe add some stars? Regards! --Katholico 15:00, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * mmm, well, in that case, what you think of this other? --Katholico 17:21, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Demons! Honestly, I won't noticed before that it looks like to the French flag! XD I was trying to make an flag different to the OTL design (the gold diamond, etc)... but there is an OTL proposed flag that might be according your description: Project of Oliveira Valadão, 1892. Regards! --Katholico 18:18, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seems that you finally decided for the OTL proposal... Maybe, I should have begun that flag xP Regards! --Katholico 03:07, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Argentina Post-1946
Hi! I want tour opinion for Argentina in FTBW, after the Third Global War and fall of Natso Regime... since that Brazil (along with Chile) occupied to Argentina for some time after the war for the reconstruction, the country should become in an dictatorship or an parliamentary republic (with the President as an figurehead)? --Katholico 03:00, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * When you says that Brazil managed to eventually force its own man in charge, you mean, a Brazilian officer or a pro-brazil argentinian? jeje And later, he became in a dictator? Regards! --Katholico 03:38, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem! Thanks! :) --Katholico 04:51, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Portuguese Colonies
Sorry for disturb you, again, but while i was seeing the nations in the maps (for the Football article), i noticed that Portugal still have colonies today in Africa; specifically Mozambique and a part of Angola. Since the Portugal was defeated in the Second and Third Global Wars, this territories if not was annexed by other nations, maybe might become independent during the 50's? Also, i should say that i asked because i think that a new nation in Africa, would be some good for the football article since the continent only have 6 nation (7 with Sudan in 2004), the rest are colonies. Regards! --Katholico 17:48, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Help?
You need help with the wars or the new timelines from FTBW? (I noticed you remove some interesting lines about the war in SA) Regards! --Katholico 23:01, January 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, when you are ready just let me know to help. :) --Katholico 04:55, January 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's fine for me :) Just, maybe we need to decide for where i begin... for avoid edition conflicts, i mean jeje... by the 1800s timeline or other? --Katholico 05:24, January 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oki, i already has begun and i have a little question XD When the Hungarian Revolt mentioned here took place? Regards! --Katholico 06:37, January 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * For the wars in South America, previously i wrote in the countries articles some things about the development of the conflicts inside each country... always according the general lines of FTBW pages... you might use some of this when you write more about the wars... ? Regards! --Katholico 04:46, January 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * How going what i wrote in the timeline by the moment? is good? --Katholico 19:07, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Natural Disaster
Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Storms, and other events maybe have effects in the internal histories of each nation and should be added later, right? Regards! --Katholico 19:07, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

FTBW
Hi there, I love what you've done with FTBW! Its been a long time, so I thought I'd just tell you what a fine job you're doing and urge you to continue. Mumby 17:57, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Next Meeting
I will be in Winnipeg next tuesday, so can we schedule a meeting? I will be St Vital Centre around the usual time of 4:30 to 6:30. Will you be able to come?

Yank 22:00, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Will you still be able to come tommorrow?

Yank 23:36, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

End to the Cold War in FTBW
Is ther any end to the Cold War in FTBW, and if so, how? RandomWriterGuy 04:30, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Russia in FTBW
I like the concept how Russia became a democracy instead of a communist state unlike OTL. However, I have to warn you one thing that will shock you:

In OTL, when Gorbachev was democratizing the country, this allowed a new force that would ultimatly destroy the country once and for all. This force began right at the Baltic States, when many peoples, especially Lithuanians, demanded total independence from the USSR. Gorbachev tried everything to keep the union togetherm but that force that began in Lithuania spread to other USSR republics. Gorbachev proposed the New Union Treaty to keep the union intact. However, before it can be signed, the August Coup occured that attempted to eliminate everything Gorbachev tried to achieve. Although it was a horrible failure for those who planned it, it sparked the USSR republics to leave the union. By 1991, the USSR was just another piece of history.

Now remember: if Russia becomes a democracy in the FTBW timeline, you must remember the nationalist force that brought down the USSR. If Russia's going to hold itself together, something must be done to keep it together.

So what comes in your mind when you hear this and what do you think should happen?

RandomWriterGuy 06:22, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well apperently, in OTL, Gorbachev would do anything to make sure they stay in the country. My theory is that maybe Gorbachev would probably establish a New Union Treaty (inspired by the New Union Timeline by NuclearVacuum) to make sure the multiple enthic groups and the government can have their way.

How does this sound? RandomWriterGuy 03:23, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Turkey in FTBW
I like the idea of how the Ottomans collapses into civil war after the Second Great War and led to the creation of new states in the Balkans and Anatolia, but how does that explain their holding of the interior. Was there a Saudi Emirate of sorts already established in Eastern Arabia?

Also, considering how Post-War Turkey fell into the NatSo alliance between the Civil War and into the obvious Sorelist state in the post-war Scenario. Could you elaborate on how that might have occured, and how it could've affected their situation against France, Persia (and I also assume Greece as well) during the war. I ask this cause it seems that Turkey hasn't really been elaborated on since the fall of the Empire and I'm kind of a stickler for both Ottoman and Turkish history. Razgriz 2K9 04:43, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I apologize if I had not been clear earlier on the subject, so here goes, when I was talking about the interior of the Arabian peninsula, I did in fact mean the Saudis, since I know the Ottomans had not been mentioned to have ever occupied or controlled the Arabian interior. I've always assumed that the Saudi State, (or the Emirate of Diriyah until the Turkish CIvil War) had nominal control of the interior and served as an influence against Ottoman rule, but then that's me talking out of my head there.

As for the idea of Turkey's involvement, I like the idea you have there, depending on how you look at it though, the occupation of Istanbul by the French Empire could've forced Turkey to surrender, or, as was the case with Italy in OTL, the NatSo party in Turkey would continue to fight in what would be another Turk Civil War, with the French-backed Sorelists and the German-backed National Socialists over Anatolia. But that's my two cents. I may try to expand what you have their as well as a few inputs of my own, but with my house internet down I probably would not be able to pass it forward until next week at best. Razgriz 2K9 15:30, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I just recently got a new modem for my home and I've gotten time to digest the information you gave me in detail. You had the Ottoman Civil War deal with the Balkan conflict and its issue with the Romanian, Bulgarian and South Slav (Serb, Croat, Montenegrin, Albanian and Macedonian Slav) seperatists as well as Greek irredentists.

But what of Anatolia? I know you had some of the conflict based on the Greco-Turkish War of 1919, so I assume the conflict would spread to Western Anatolia. But what of the Armenians and Kurds? Since Russia never collapsed ITTL, that would mean a Armenian Nation-state in Russia would be held back indefinitely, but with the instability in post-Ottoman Turkey, with what the Empire most likely divided into various factions internally, would it have been possible to have an Armenian nation-state during the Civil War period? Razgriz 2K9 20:42, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I can take a stab at helping you with fleshing out the history of Turkey, the Balkans and Egypt/Libya. I've been reading up on the material since I've gotten a book talking about the Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire for Christmas two years ago. I'm also still trying to flesh out what I can about the Ottoman Civil War that I started over the weekend.

I've managed to score up a bit of free time here, and I've been able to complete info on inter-war Turkey, should I send it to you privately for review or do you want me to put it up one-time? Razgriz 2K9 18:40, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Understood, if there are any discrepencies, just let me know. Razgriz 2K9 02:02, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

VG Consoles in FTBW
Since there is a Sorelist Japan, would Japanese companies such as Nintendo and Sony still make Video Games (depending on if they still even exist), and also would they be willing to send them to the U.S. and non-Sorelist nations in Europe? Razgriz 2K9 22:08, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Some idea to FTBW timeline
OTL in 1811, Polish nobleman and Russian Senator M. Oginsky offered to the Enperor Alexander I to create an autonomos state, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, in the western Russia It would be not the same that Middle Age or modern Lithuania, but Polish State under the Romanov dinasty rule (more or less sush as 1815 Congressional Poland), with Polish as the state language and the Lithuanian Statut of 1588 as constitution. It was proposed as buffer state between Russia and the Napoleon Empire, and pro-Russian counter to the pro-French Grand Duchy of Warsaw

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Flag Page in FTBW
Is there a flag page in FTBW, if not, can I make one? RandomWriterGuy 16:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

O.K. I going to make it right now. However, for some reason, it wouldn't let me make a gallery, so that would be something you have to do. RandomWriterGuy 17:12, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I just realized I made a gallery when you said no. Sorry for not reading your message sooner. Also, it's still a work in progress because there's still more I need to add. RandomWriterGuy 18:00, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I just realized Switzerland is both part of the Former and Current Nations in the nation page. Which one is it suppose to be? RandomWriterGuy 18:28, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Milliard Fillmore
i notify to you that i erase the page Milliard Fillmore (French Trafalgar, British Waterloo) because was a duplicate of Millard Fillmore (French Trafalgar, British Waterloo) (this due to that in the first page that name had other "I"). Regards! --Katholico 04:01, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Inspiration
I found this TL that explains a very similar POD to your FTBW TL. Do you consider it a source of inspiration? RandomWriterGuy 05:33, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well what do you have to say about it? Do you like the concept? RandomWriterGuy 05:44, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

O.K. Tell me if you have new ideas inspired from the TL. However, I will not give you any spoliers though. However, it is still a work in progress, so the time scale stops at the 1950's. More will be added though. RandomWriterGuy 06:12, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Good luck. RandomWriterGuy 06:22, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

SO how is the TL so far, you like it? Where are you right now and what features do you like about the TL? RandomWriterGuy 05:15, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

The one I gave you. Sorry for not being specific. RandomWriterGuy 05:25, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

What ideas of the TL did you like the most? RandomWriterGuy 18:03, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back! Did you like the story? Which parts/ideas did you like about? RandomWriterGuy 21:47, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Did you have to agree from some of the concepts though? (Such as the creation of a Yugoslavian-like state, the resurrection of the Byzantine nation, persecution of Muslims within Russia, French dominating most of Africa, etc.) RandomWriterGuy 22:24, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Grammar/Spelling Errors
I know you want your TL FTBW to be closed, but can we correct any grammar/spelling errors? (P.S. I jst corrected a spelling error already as an fyi) RandomWriterGuy 22:45, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Formatting Answer
Yes, it's possible to do it.

The type of coding in order to do it, you can see some on this page.

Lordganon 07:10, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Picture
Could you use this picture in French Traflager, British Waterloo. Bobalugee1940 22:28, February 17, 2012 (UTC)



First GE War/3rd Coalition War Italy
You know, I just realized something when I was looking up stuff on Wikipedia. I don't think there was any mention of the other Italian Kingdoms prior to the Unification of Italy in 1806. Italy at the time is short one Naples, Sicily and Eturia (and if N:TW is to be believed as well, Sardinia). (I'm discounting the Batavian Republic because it's essentially the Netherlands pre-monarchy. Razgriz 2K9 05:05, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps so, but even then, Napoelonic Italy at the time only consisted of the Peninsula (OTL Naples was occupied at the time) I assume by 1806, Napoleon would carry out landings in the remaining independent Italian Kingdoms, Savoyard Sardinia and Bourbon Siciliy, am I correct? Razgriz 2K9 11:16, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Considering French naval superiority, I think surrender is the most likely option. I assume that was the case with the Papal States then? Razgriz 2K9 16:47, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, yeah that's true. I was asking this cause I thought about whether it was plausible to have a third, federalst (ala OTL German Empire-esque Monarchy) faction during the Italian Civil War, someone who is against the House of Savoy, yet is not keen on losing what they consider, there only chance of reclaiming their thrones. Razgriz 2K9 14:32, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Well the Bourbons of Naples and Sicily would be likely candidates (at least more so than the pro-French House of Bourbon-Parma). Considering how there were likely to be many monarchs in Italy who would oppose French rule (the Tuscan branch of the House of Hapsburg-Lorraine, the House of Austria-Este, and the House of Bourbon-Naples, in addition to the Pope, who is essentially a monarch in all but name.) I think Germany could possibly create an Italian Federation similar to the OTL German Empire. The only issue would be who will get to be the King of the Federation. Razgriz 2K9 19:44, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Point taken, I suppose that Italy could be kept united, albeit under a different dynasty, that being the House of Bourbon-Naples. It could serve as a pro-Prussian state, (although it is as you say, a pro-French, anti-Napoleonic monarch) and serve as the same counterbalance to French power in Europe. The only question is, with that being the case, and with the possibility that there would also be republicans who don't want a monarch, how are you going to pull off the now third faction, and who will pull support to their cause?Razgriz 2K9 02:33, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like you're going to make Ferdinand di Bourbone, Duke of Calabria, a very happy man then. Razgriz 2K9 03:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I almost forgot (actually just realized now), since the Bourbons is going to inherit the Italian throne, I suppose that a change in flag is more appropriate, don't you agree? Razgriz 2K9 03:13, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

TBYA
I'm making the first section of the TL. Here it is:

 ​So, what do you think? RandomWriterGuy 05:21, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1808: (POD) Joseph of France and Isabella of Spain marry each other. This causes the kingdom of Spain to be incorperated into France; Portuguese War, Napoleon defeats Portugal in the Battle of Portugal (the war's only battle), forcing Portugal to surrender and sign the Treaty of Lisbon, which forces Portugal to give up its colonial empire in all places except Angola and Mocambique and to be split into Alentejo and the rump state of Portugal
 * 1809: War of the Fifth Coalition, Napoleon triumphs over Britain and Austria (and numerous other nations) which forces them to sign the Treaty of Schonbrunn which has the same terms like OTL and no other differences; Prussia declares war on France causing the Prussian War, which leads to Prussian defeat and the Treaty of Berlin, which forces Prussia to give Berlin to the Rhine Confederation, end all hostilities with France, and pay 50 million Francs; (POD) Russia threatens war on France, but Napoleon, knowing that Russia is too large to invade, issues the St. Petersburg Accords, which fortunatly settle tensions with both countries and establish an alliance
 * 1810: Napoleon offers King George III of Britain a total cease fire in the London Accords, as he feels that he has conquered enough, and Britain would be too hard to defeat or invade due to naval superiority; Napoleon begins rebuilding at home, he establishes the Imperial Act that begin economic growth in the French Empire and its puppets
 * 1811: Due to protests in French Latin America, Napoleon signs the Havanna Agreement with French Latin American colonies, which allow the colonies to have semi-autonomous rule and certain other rights; the Havanna Plan is enacted by Napoleon, which allows economic development in French America
 * 1812: War of 1812 begins between Britain (and its Amerindian allies) and the United States, France declares support to the Americans and sends them aid to help fend off the British; French Reconquest of Haiti, the French manage to take back Haiti into the empire after years of independence, however, Napoleon reluctantly agrees to end slavery to appease the black people in its empire
 * 1813: French Invasion of Scotland, while most of the British army and navy is off to fight the Americans, Napoleon attacks the British at Scotland, their weakpoint, leading to an invasion there; due to fears of the mighty French power and the lasting influence of the French Revolution in Russia, Alexander I enacts the Alexander Plan, which is based off of the French Imperial Plan, but also enacts expansion into Central Asia and political reforms as well including the end of serfom, which would be the basis for democratic progress in Russia; the Americans defeat Tecumseh at the Battle of Tippecanoe
 * 1814: Britain sues for peace due to the high cost of fighting the war in America and their home isles and is forced to sign the Treaty of Paris, which gives America all of Canada and France its Carribean, and West African colonies, it also has to give up Western Australia, the East Indies (formerly Ducth before Napoleon's conquest of the Netehrlands forced Britain to take control of it) and Guyana (originally Ducth, taken over by Britain after the War of the Fifth Coalition) to France and all French teritories taken from France during the Napoleonic Wars, Britain also is forced to pay 300 miilion USD and 300 million Francs, Britain also gives up most of its navy to France and its naval warfare tactics, it also gives France its industrial technologies, while France gives the Guyanas as a reward for America's victory against Britain; due to the weakening grip in Florida, Napoleon sells it to America for $10 million USD
 * 1815: Panic of 1815 occurs in Britain due to the loss in the War of 1812 and the loss of markets in Europe to sell its goods, causing numerous riots across the country, which later spreads to America and Europe, though it does not do much due to the rising economic reliability of French goods; France and America sign the Monroe-Napoleon Treaty, which set an offical boundry between French New Spain and the United States (the same boundry as the OTL Adams-Onis Treaty)
 * 1816: The Second Industrial Revolution (first one began in England) begins in the French Rhine Region, where a combination of British industrial technologies and the growing economy lead to rise of France from a agrarian country to a mighty industrial power, replacing the British in the economic competition and the increased reliance of French goods
 * 1817: French control in most of the American continents spurs Alexander to encourage settlement in the colony of Alaska in the Alaskan Act; France incoperates its Italian lands into the French puppet of Italy, made out of the puppets of Italy, Naples, and the Italian lands from Switzerland, Austria, and to a smaller degree, France; the French Railway, a railway system connecting the mainland French Empire and its puppets, begins construction
 * 1818: Inspired by the French Imperial Plan and the Russian Alexander Plan, James Monroe enacts the American Plan, which aims for the very same goals ats the two plans: economic growth and development; Napoleon and James establish trade agreements, including French assistence in the American Plan; the French fleet land in Algiers, whose sultan agrees to be a French protectorate in exchange for access to French goods and opening its markets to France
 * 1819: France expands its control around North Africa, annexing Morrocco and Tunisia as protectorates in exchange for opening its markets to France and access to French goods, other French colonies are established in Mauritania, Guinea, the Niger delta region, and the Senegal river region; Denmark-Norway declares war on Sweden, with French and Russian support, the Danish-Norweigns begin to take over Sweden, while Prussia supports Sweden, which leads to the Scandinavian War
 * 1820: Inspired by French Nationalism, the Greeks rebel for independence, who are supported by numerous European nations, which soon inspire future revolts in the Turkish Balkans; Francis I of Hungary enacts the Hungarian Plan, which like all the other economic plans of Russia, France, and America, aim for economic growth and independence, yet this is checked by French economical influence; King Goerge II of Britain dies, leaving Prince George IV of Wales the heir to the throne, who promises to end the French Empire forever; the colony of Liberia is founded by American blacks and whites, who used it as a haven for escape slaves, and would later become America's African colony; the Missouri Act is passed in America to settle the slavery issue (only temporarily)
 * 1821: The French officially establish control of the French East Indies, formerly rule by the Dutch, which was met with opposition from the Dutch settlers, who set up their own countries in other parts of OTL South Africa and OTL Indonesia; settlements in Australia and New Zealand to counter the growing colony of French Western Australia; Sweden officially falls to Russian-French-Dano-Norweigan forces, the Treaty of Copenhagen gives Denmark-Norway and Russia their land, Finland goes to Russia and the rest goes to Denmark, Prussia is split between the Confederation of the Rhine and Poland with the southern half going to the Rhine Confederation and the northern half going to Poland, the war allows French relations and influence with Denmark-Norway and Russia to improve
 * 1822: Napoleon declares war on the Ottoman Empire to seize its remaining North African territories, which spurs Russia to do the same thing; French settlers immigrate to colonies worldwide as encouraged by Napoleon to increase French control of them; Indochina is settled by the French, with settlers and officials from the French Philippines; the Ottoman War inspires the Balkan peoples to rise up in what would become the Balkan Revolution
 * 1823: Numerous cities across the Nile Delta are now in French control such as Alexandria and Cairo while most areas in the Caucasus are now held by the Russians while numerous rebellions by the Balkan peoples began to depose Ottoman governmental officials; Napoleon announces the German Union Act, which will allow alll of the German states to form a stronger union, which was enacted concerned of the lack of unity in some degree; the Greeks eventually gain their independence by the Treaty of Athens, and are ruled by Louis I, a relative of Napoleon
 * 1824: The Oregon Crisis occurs when the United States and Russia standoff for the Oregon Country though diplomats want to search for a peaceful solution; Britain establishes the British East Indies Company out of the former British East India Company; the French establish a stronghold in Singapore to provide a naval base for ship passing by the Malay Peninsula
 * 1825: With the help of the French, the process of Russian modernization was becoming imminent, with food and industrial production growing at least 45% a year, something unseen in Russian history, modern food production methods, modern factories and forges, and new, larger, and improved trading and naval fleets became common projects across Russia, but although serfdom as been abolished, nobles controlled half of the farmland, serfs had large debts, city conditions were poor, and people from the low and middle classes were struggling, the basis of what would become the Russian Revolution
 * 1826: The Oregon Crisis is resolved, as the Oregon Territory is divided by the 49th Parallel, also, America will allow Russia to have lands in OTL British Columbia and Yukon, many people in Russia and the United States see this as a achievement in Russian-American relations; the Ottoman War ends, the Treaty of Constantinople is signed, as France receieves all of Ottoman North Africa, Russia receives all Turkish Caucasus lands, Turkish Armenia, Kurdistan, and Shahrazur, while Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Romania, and Albania gain independence, Greece gains OTL Greece territories, Eastern Thrace, Constantinople, areas in OTL Turkey where Greek minorities reside, and Cyprus from the Ottoman Empire; the capital of the Ottoman Empire is moved to Ankara in Anatolia
 * 1827: Napoleon proposes the project of the Suez Canal, which would sharply the distance and travel time to get to Asia, this is approved by the French government, which begins on the project funded by the French government (and its puppet states); border disputes between Russia and Persia lead ot the Russo-Persian War; anti-Muslim riots go all over the Balkans, as many people, after their harsh rule of the Muslim Turks, have a deep hatred for Islam and begin to persecute Muslims and wreck their mosques, while the new nations ban Islam and force the conversion of Muslims, while in Bosnia, it descends into anarchy as Christian Croats and Serbs attack the Muslim Bosnians
 * 1828: Lord Liverpool is replaced by George Canning as British Prime Minister due to his failure to handle the policy with France; excavation for the Suez Canal begins using 1.5 million people to dig the canal; the Dover Incident occurs when a French merchant ship is fired a wrecked by a British cruiser, which sparks anti-British sentiment in Paris, though the British do apoligize, yet this causes tneions to build up between Britain and France; Balkan Muslims rise up against their religiously repressive governments across the nations causing chaos, while in Bosnia, the anarchy continues to cause nationwide chaos
 * 1829: A French expedition to Japan led by Robert Surcouf land in Nagasaki, who force the Japanese to open up trade to the west, which would cause the process of Japanese westernization with foreign embassies established in Nagasaki; the Russo-Persian War ends, forcing the Persian to give up the land they gave up in OTL; the Panic of 1829 develops in France due to the bank bailout, causing a major widespread recession across Europe and America; due to the anti-Muslim sentiment, at least 80% of Muslims in the Balkans are forced to give up Islam for Christianity while some flee to Russia and Austria for protection, though they still face discrimination in those countries from Christians
 * 1830: Napoleon dies of liver cancer, causing a massive funeral nationwide and a visit by most leaders of Europe (excpet for Britain obviously), wherelse in Britain, celebrations take place, Napoleon II is officially emperor of France, with Napoleon being titled Napoleon the Great in all countries except Britain, who is known by the British as Napoleon the Terrible; the French Railway is officially complete, connecting nearly every region of the mainland empire; Napoleon II establishes the Second Imperial Act, which allows a certain degree of economic development in France's client states; the chaos in the Balkans alarms the Ottomans, who decide to send troops to reconquer the area to protect them, causing France and Russia to declare war on them once again
 * 1831: Napoleon II establishes the French Foreign Legion as a sector of the French military to deal with colonies, protectorates, and other territories outside the European region, who are stationed in nearly every of France's colonies; to deal with the economic stress, Portugal sells Angola and Mocambique for 10 million pounds to Britain, who uses them as barrier against the expanding French African colonial empire; Nat Turner from the USA leads a slave rebellion that woud last for several days before being put out
 * 1832: Cholera breaks out in London which spreads to America and Europe, killing an estimated 3,000 people; the Malta incident occurs, where a Frenchtrading ship is shot down by a British cruiser, which sets off the Meidterranean War, France lands troops in Malta as a punishment for the British, causing Sicily and Sardinia to join him to stop France's "acts of injustice"; Czar Nicholas I, now ruler of Russia after Alexander I, attempts to enact reforms that would benefit the poor class, eliminate social injustices, imporve living and working conditions, provide unemployement benefits, provide universal education and healthcare, and increase taxes on the rich an decrease taxes on the poor, however, it is shot down by the Russian nobles, who see it as an attempt to eliminate their power, yet this would be one of the factors for the Russian Revolution
 * 1833: Britain attempts to retake the Falkland Islands, yet they are repulsed by the French navy, now tactically and technolgically upgraded; Sardinian and Sicilian fleets clash with the French fleet at Valletta to liberate it from the French, however, they are pushed back; Russian factory and farm workers protest at the Winter Square, but are shot by Russian troops, which scare the protestors away, however, this would be the start of the Russian Revolt; Britain and France enact reforms limiting child labor, improving work conditions, and increase the pay of people; the Turkish Empire sues for peace, which is forced to give Yemen to France and Mesopotamia to Russia, and is forced to pay Russia and France 100 million francs and 100 million rubles, while they are forced to never intervene into events into the Balkan countries ever again, while the nations are to never again persecute them, which they reluctantly agree to, however, in Bosnia, it is still in anarchy, forcing the French to intervene and establish peace, which goes on for several eyars until there was finally peace
 * 1834: Britain and France enact new reforms that allow people unemployement benefits, employement benefits for those who make little money, free health care for the poor, promote and establish trade unions and charity organizations, and to provide newer, cheap housing my elminating poverty in large urban areas; Britain abolishes slavery; Russian peasants rise up across the Russian countryside, burning nobles' houses, executing wealthy families, and looting whatever riches they have, while Russian factory workers and police clash in riots across cities, the government fears that it would become another French Revolution, yet they do nothing other than brutality to stop it; the French capture Gibraltar after a grueling, long, but epic naval battle; in the South Atlantic, British and French fleets clash around British Atlantic possessions
 * 1835: The Second Seminole War begins between the United States and the Amerindian tribes of Florida; most of Russia east of the Urals begin to deteriorate into anarchy as most of the governing force is slaughtered by the peasants and workers, though some nobles who did support Nicholas's plan to reform Russia were spared, at lands west of the Urals, revolutionaries begin taking over numerous Russian cities with a part of the Russian military now joining them, the Russian government finally coincedes to Nicholas's requests to compromise with the revolutionaries, who hears the stories of suffering from the Russian poor, and immidietly enacts numerous laws that reformed the social life of Russia and allow democracy to develop, a Duma is now formed and a Constitution is written
 * 1836: Most of Australia is now settled, divided by French and British halves; after a series of naval battles, Napoleon II conquers Sicily and Sardinia, forcing Britain to sue for peace, who signs the Treaty of Naples, which forces Britain to seceed its bases and territories in the Mediterranean and the South Atlantic, recognize French control over Sardinia and Sicily, and pay 70 million Francs, causing Francophobe protests across Britain; the French send an expedition to Hawaii led by Julien Cosmao, who establish an alliance and trade agreements, followed by other western nations
 * 1837: Victoria officially becomes Queen of the United Kingdom, though for her first part of her reign, she is very unpopular amongst the British people; the Panic of 1837 begins in New York City and eventually spreads all across Europe; Napoleon II enacts the Church Authority Act, which ends the political power of the Roman Catholic Church across Catholic power and forces most of the church's property to be sold to the public, which angers the Roman Catholic Church, yet the presence of Napoleon's troops in Rome keeps the Church from making any action; the Padri War between the nation of Padris in Indonesia and the French; the Suzez Canal is completed, now officially open to public, it is now reknown as monumental feat in engineering
 * 1838: The Padri War ends, with Padri forced to sign the Treaty of Jakarta, which causes Western Sumatra to come under French control; the Boer Borneo Republic is formed from Southern Borneo; the Cherokee are forced out of their land and journey to their Indian reservation in the Trail of Tears; the Boers fight numerous tribes in the island of Borneo known as the Borneo War; the French withdraw from Bosnia, having finally established a stable environment, though 90% of the Muslim population was either dead, converted to Christianity, or left Bosnia
 * 1839: France declares war on Qing China after refusing trade agreements, known as the South China War; Britain declares war on Afghanistan in the Anglo-Afghan War, with France aiding the Afghans; the French Academy of Sciences invent the first Daguerreotype photography, a basis for modern photography; France battles out rebels in Algeria led by Abd al-Kader; Britain begins to invade the kingdom of Brunei; the Boer Noreno Republic ask the British to annex them as a way to protect themselves from French aggression, which the British agree to; the French Philippines are officially now a part of the French East Indies
 * 1840: New Zealand becomes colonized, the French in the South Island and the British in the North Island; David Livingstone goes on a famous visit to the African interior; France emerges victorious on every naval battle agains the Chinese due to their inferior navy technology, they send troops to France to invade Southern China from the coast and from their colony in Ondochina; the French establish control of Madagascar, OTL Cameroon, OTL Gabon, OTL Congo, OTL Djibouti, and OTL Oman; French troops in Afghanistan face difficulties in the rough terrain, though they manage to gain some success; Britain passes the South African Act, which encourages immigration to South Africa and establishes military bases since the British greatly rely on it for contact with British India
 * 1841: Britain declares a cease-fire with the Afghans, whose army is now battered from the hot weather and the fierce Afghan soldiers thanks to French support, they sign the Peace of Kabul, giving Britain Pashtunistan but will not try to take Afghanistan anymore; the French begin to occupt parts of Southern China from the coast to the inland (where troops from French Indochina invade); Laos and Kampuchea are annexed into French Indochina; the Borneo Boers defeat numerous tribes and take over the whole southern part of the island; Britain takes over Sarawak from Brunei; France responds by invading Sabah from Brunei; Thailand and the Malay States agree to be French protectorates concerned of British aggression in Southeast Asia
 * 1842: Napoleon II meets with Tokugawa Iemochi in a historic visit to Japan, who becomes France's biggest ally in the Pacific, who plan to split China for themselves, and in exchange, France will help provide Japan support for its modernization and some certain reforms; China sues for peace with France, who agree to open China to trade and hand over Southern China (aka provinces of Sichuan, Yunnan, Guizhou, Guangxi, Hunan, Guangdong, Hainan, Jiangxi, Fujian, Zhejiang, Taiwan, and Shanghai) by the Treaty of Beijing and pay 100 million Francs; Britain reacts to France' annexation of Southern China by declaring war on Burma in the Anglo-Burmese War; Boers siege Durban in South Africa, leading to tensions between Britain and the Boer States
 * 1843: An uprising in Greece occurs to Athens, where they demand Louis to establish democracy, however, he refuses and orders troops to shoot the troops, which causes tensions between the monarchy and Greece; the British establish the colony of Natal in Southern Africa; the French Americas (partically in Patagonia, Brazil, New Mexico, Texas, and California) has seen a massive migration of immigrants and pioneers, mainly Europeans and native Latin Americans
 * 1844: The first electric teleram is invented in America; the Bah'ai faith is founded on May 23rd by Bab, one of the religion's prohets; Napoleon II forces Louis to draft a liberal constitution, who reluctantly agrees to, allowing the relations between the Greeks and the monarchy to imrpove
 * 1845: A potatoe blight in Ireland leads to the Great Famine, causing discotnent of British rule and the massive migration of Irish people worldiwde, including the United States, England, the British colonies, and the French Empire; the first rubber band is invented in France; Britain takes over Rangoon, officially incoperating Burma into British India; Britain declares war on the Sikh Kingdom in the Franco-Sikh War
 * 1846: The Mormons begin their trek to the west, mainly to Alberta; the Franco-Sikh War ends, forcing the Sikh Kingdom to be annexed into French India, while the Koh-i-Noor is given to France as part of the French Imperial Jewels; the British Parliment officially outlaws the Corn Laws; St. Nicholasburg is established in OTL Vancouver by Russian settlers; Napoleon II signs a deal with the American settlers that gives them a degree of self-rule
 * 1847: The first revolver pistol is invented by Samuel Colt, an American inventor; Liberia, due to reaching the qualifications, is requested statehood, and luckily, it was approved by Congress; the discovery of gold in California sparks a gold rush that leads to large-scale immigration from all around the world; concerned abou the Amerindians in most of the French American colonies, Napoleon II signs the Treaty of Mexico City, which allows "unalienable" reservations for the numerous Amerindian tribes of French North America, though they have to be part of the French Empire, the tribes agree to the deal; Kenya and Tanzania become British colonies
 * 1848 : A communist Revolution occurs across the mainland French Empire, yet it is put out, and Karl Marx, its leader, its executed, yet his political ideology of communism would have an effect in world history; Napoleon II passes a law that declares the ideology of communism illegal, as it has plagued the nation after the brief revolution; tensions between Britain and France forces Napoleon II to establish the Paris Pact, made out of France and its puppets (German Union, Italian Union, Spain), while Britain, in response, establishes the London Pact, made out of Britain, Austria, and Russia; Austria and Russia declare a break-away from the Contiental Blockade as an excuse to free themselves from the French sphere, and while this does allow Britain to restore its influence on the continent, French products are still the majority being bought
 * 1849 : Inspired by the Balkan and Greek Revolutions, Hungary and Bohemia rebel for independence, plunging Austria into chaos; Napoleon II enacts the Third Imperial Act, which enacts the mass-construction of shipyards, military forts, barracks, but the most important, military barriers (especially in the east) all over the nations of the Paris Pact in order to protect themselves and bing the nations closer; the Yugoslav Movement emerges in Serbia inspired from the union countries of Germany and Italy, who call for all Southern Slavic nations to unite with each other, the movement is not dangerous, yet it causes some concerns to other nations
 * 1850 : Greece, with the help of the French, takes over northern Somalia in the Greco-Somalian War (aka area of OTL British Somaliland), while the French take over Puntland; Liberia expands on to OTL Sierra Leone; Britian establishes a colony in Namibia, and hope to expand it in the future to connect with British Angola; The Taiping Rebellion begins between the Christian Taiping Heavenly Kingdom and the Qing Empire; the chaos in Austria continues, as Britain and Russia support the Austrians, while France supports the Hungarians and Bohemians; Serbia declares all support for the Yugoslav Movement, and calls for all southern slavic nations to unite
 * 1851 : Looking at the anarchy going on in China, Japan declares war on China as an excuse to expand into Manchuria and Korea; inspired by the Yugoslav Movement and the Austrian Revolution, the people of the Illyrian provinces and in Szeklerland and Transylvania in Austria rise up against the French and Austrians, with both sides clashing each other that would continue for several years before the French and Austrians give in; the Belgrade Conference meets in Serbia, where the southern slavic nations: Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bulgaria, and Romania discuss the new country and how the government will be planned; the Crystal Palace opens in London as part of the 1852 World Fair
 * 1852 : Austria finally gives in to the protests by splitting the nations into Austria, Bohemia, and Hungary, yet the Habsburg Royal Family still retain control of the countries, thus making Austria the Austrian-Bohemian-Hungarian Kingdom, a union of three states; Ljubljana has seen violence due to Slovenians and French troops clashing out, while in Transylvania and Szeklerland, Austrian, Bohemian, and Hungarian troops battle out rioters across cities; the telegraph becomes commonplace all over Frace after the invention's creation in America; the Delhi incident occurs when a French ambassador is mobbed by two British soldiers outside the British embassy, the French call this an act of war, starting the Franco-Anglo Indian War; Yugoslavia is formed amongst the southern slavic nations; Qing China, in a desperate effort to save itself, surrenders to the Japanese and agree to give them Manchuria and Korea in the Treaty of Peking and pay 50 million Yen
 * 1853 : The Franco-Anglo Indian War cause chaos within the princly states, Indian Ocean trade routes, and the independent remnants of India, as French and British fleets and armies clash numerous places around India; Russia and Austria see this and declare war on France by attacking it in the European continent, forcing France to declare war on Austria and Russia, causing the First International War; due to the war in Europe, France and Austria are forced to abandon the Illyrian provinces, Szeklerland, and Transylvania, who become the independent nations of Romania, Slovenia and Croatia, who are asked by Yugoslavia
 * 1854 : Napoleon II asks Yugoslavia and Greece to join him against the British, Austrians, and Russians, and later issues the Degree of Belgrade, that apoligizes to the Slovenians and Croatians for brutally persecuting them for the protests, allowing relations to improve; Austria sees a united Yugoslavia and a Franco-Yugoslav friendship a threat and declare war on Romania, Slovenia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia, forcing the four nations to fight against Austria, who in turn are attacked by the Russians; the war spreads to Australia, Southeast Asia, and New Zealand, where French and British navies and troops collide; Japan joins the war on France's side and attacks Russia in Eatsern Siberia; the Kansas-Nebraska Act is enacted, due to the slavery crisis in America
 * 1855 : Britain finally recognizes the independent states of Transvaal and the Orange Free State in South Africa and Borneo Boer Nation in Borneo; the war spreads to Africa, where French troops attack British colonies in Angola, Mocambique, Kenya, Tanzania, and South Africa; Napoleon II requests President Mattew Perry to join the war on France's side, yet due to its strict policy of neutrality, he politely says no, excpet for some badly needed supplies; Napoleon II reuqests Poland to join the war on his side, which it say yes and declares war on Russia; David Livingstone discovers the Victoria Falls in the OTL Zimbabwe-Zambia border
 * 1856 : Britain asks China to join the war on its side against Japan and France, which, in order to gain back its land, agrees to do so, and declares war on Japan and France; France asks Persia to declare war on Russia, and in exhcnage, it will get Mesopotamia and possible lands lost from the Russo-Persian War, which is accepted and declares war on Russia; Denmark-Norway declares war on Russia feeling threatened, causing Russia to invade the country
 * 1857 : The Sepoy Mutiny begins in British India, with the rebels being funded by the French as an excuse to weaken the British war effort; Russia subdues all of Poland and eastern Yugoslavia (with Austria), while in Africa, France takes over most of Britain's African colonies except South Africa; due to poor military technology and lack of training, the Chinese are subdued everywhere, with Mongolia and parts of the North Chinese Plain now Japanese; most of French Western Australia is now British while all of New Zealand is now French
 * 1858 : The Irish begin to rebel against British rule, aided by the French, which causes chaos in the island; Russia takes over Outer Manchuria from the Japanese; northern Denmark-Norway is now Russian; after an epic naval battle, the French begin to invade Southern England; the Sepoy Mutiny is finally put down, while the Mughal Empire, a supporter of the Mutiny, is officially disbanded, and while French and British India faced hardships, it is clear that French India has an advantage over the British counterpart; due to years of hardsip, China sues for peace; Calcutta falls to the Indian rebels, which quickly leads to the end of British rule in India
 * 1859 : Charles Darwin, a Biritish biologist releases his book, the Origins of Species; Britain declares total cease-fire before the French can reach London, while France dclares the same thing after the Russians breached the German Wall, both sides of the International War sign the Treaty of Paris, while there is no winner, each side has its gains and losses, the terms are:
 * Britain will recognize France's control over India and New Zealand
 * France will recognize Britain's control over Australia
 * Japan will recognize Russian control over Outer Manchuria
 * Russia will recognize Japanese control over the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin
 * The North China Plain will be put under Japanese rule
 * All Russian and Austrian occupied areas of Yugoslavia will return to Yugoslavian rule
 * Austria-Hungary-Bohemia will no longer be a union, with Austria annexed into the French client state of the German Union
 * Russia will recognize Perisan rule over Mesopotamia and Kurdistan
 * Persia will recognize Russian rule over Azerbaijan
 * All priosners of war from both sides will be released to their original sides
 * Britain will recognize France's control over Kenya and Tanzania
 * Poland will be officially under Russian rule
 * Hungary will not be subjected to foreign alliances now domination
 * All Japanese-occupied areas of Siberia will be returned to Russia
 * All Russian-occupied areas of Denmark-Norway (now the United States of Scandinavia) will return to the USS
 * Russia will recognize Scandinavian rule over Finland
 * India is proclaimed independent from Britain
 * Britain will recognize Irish independence
 * British and French ships will be free to travel through any water regardless of which either country controls them
 * Russia will end its claims to the Dardenelles Strait
 * Russia will recognize Japanese control of Mongolia
 * Britain will arrest and execute the soldiers who attacked the French ambassador who were responsible for the war

 I'm sorry. I never meant to harrass you, but if I did, then forgive me. I won't talk about the TL anymore. RandomWriterGuy 15:56, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Showcase on AltHist Update
I probably couldn't have thought of a better way to describe Napoleon's World than the way you did. Thank you for showcasing it!

KingSweden 16:28, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm thinking of replacing Mitt Romney as the 41st President with Steve Martin. Your thoughts?

KingSweden 03:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Eh I'm thinking of dumping Romney just because I'd prefer to have non-OTL politicians in position to be President. Romney would still run and be Governor of Michigan and maybe have failed in the 2004 election as well, thus making him not want to run in 2008 or 2012.

And absolutely, I could help out.

KingSweden 04:12, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Realistic or not?
I have a little trouble figuring out how my TL would look. So far, in this page, I am struggling about how the First Turkish War would go. Any advice? RandomWriterGuy 02:07, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

I planned the war to be 6 years long. However, this means I have to painfully research locations across the battle sites to find perfect battles. Am I overdoing this? And also, is the war info SO FAR realistic? RandomWriterGuy 02:21, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

How long do you expect it to be? And what about the battles? Too much info?

P.S. I thought I give the list of fronts in the war: That is it! RandomWriterGuy 02:28, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Franco-Russian Invasion of the Balkans
 * Balkan Revolution
 * Greek War of Independence
 * French Invasion of Egypt and Libya

I see you are much better in knowing this than I am. Also, I do warn you: poor roads, mountains, and pro-Turkish Balkan groups (such as Bosnians and Albanians) will also be a problem too. I plan to ensure that the Balkans becomes completly independent. Russia will not be the "big loser", because the military has been advanced with the help of the French, so they will have better successes.

I will expect Turkish raids into occupied territories and uprisings against military occupation, which is why I made it 6 years long. Also, no one will occupy the straits region: France and Russia will jointly occupy it.

Austria WILL NOT BE IN THE WAR due to the French juggernaut next to them. Simply, they cannot declare war anywhere in Europe without France's permission.

Once the war ends, the only remnants of Turkey are its Middle Eastern possessions, Kurdistan, and Anatolia. RandomWriterGuy 21:43, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

No no no no. All I was just doing is just giving you just info of how I planned the war. I didn't want to completly go my way, as some of your advice is yours. But do you think I'm adding too many battles? And how many years you expect the war to last? RandomWriterGuy 03:17, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Chilean elections (FTBW)
Hi Tbguy! how are you? I hope fine. I want to ask if i can later make a article for the presidential elections in Chile in the FTBW timeline, as, according the list of presidents that i wrote until now, these will take place during june, 2012? Regards! --Katholico 04:11, April 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Took me a while, but i think that finally discover how resolve you colours problem :D Already i put it in the article: The problem with colours in the elections template is that the parties names already have a predetermined colour due to other little templates like this... i mean, when put the word Republican appear the red colour... you put socialist appears orange colour... etc...
 * So, for changed the colours, i used this parameters:


 * party_colour = no
 * For override the predetermined colors.
 * And then, put the new colours:


 * colour1 = FF0000
 * colour2 = 0000FF


 * I hope this serve you :) Regards! ps: Thanks for the other --Katholico 17:26, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

I Tbguy, how are you? I hope fine. :) The Sunday were the chilean elections in FTBW and originally i was thinking the run-off on next july would be between the 2 main coalition candidates, but i have a new idea: In a surprising last minute result, the second round be bewteen the government candidate (Matthei) and the candidate of the chilean sorelism (Cruz-Coke), for first time in the country. Probably he will not win, but i think that will be interesting since that Chile is a historic US-aligned country. What you think? Regards! --Katholico 05:10, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

CYOAH
Hello Tbguy. My name is Taco, and you might have seen me around from my contributions to CYOAH (mainly Hitler Dies: 1927). I just wanted to say that CYOAH is awesome. I have seen stuff like it on other sites (Choice of Games), but to make a timeline or game or whatever you would call it there requires complex programing skills. But here, its so easy! Of course, I follow all the guidelines. Anyways, just wanted to say that, and thanks for CYOAH!

TacoCopper

Federalist Victory in 1804 election.
Hey Tbguy. I was wondering, what would happen if Charles C. Pickney won the 1804 election against Thomas Jefferson? Enclavehunter 06:12, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Want some help with FTBW?
Hello! I would like to know if you would be interested in having some help from me for things such as (a) Spain (b) General Culture and (c) writing. I am saying this because I just read the first part of FTBW's timeline and I saw some things that, if corrected, would make everything look much better. I await your answer. Milarqui, The Spaniard 16:39, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I corrected all the grammar mistakes in the first part of FTBW, and also rearranged some sentences so that they make more sense (and look better). I'll try to correct the mistakes in the second part soonish. Tell me what do you think of it now! Milarqui, The Spaniard 19:35, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

What would Napoleon do...?
Hey. So in my new timeline, the British fleet is defeated at the Battle of the Nile after an minor mistake In OTL doesn't occur, and the French win. Eventually, Napoleon goes on and defeats the Anglo-Ottoman force at the Siege of Acre (since the Royal Navy was never their to help). The French recieve Egypt and Syria (along with the Holy Land) from the Ottoman Empire. So I was wondering, what would Napoleon do to the recieved area? Enclavehunter 02:35, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

CHL Elections
Hi Tbguy XD I wrote to you again to know what you think about the possibility that in Chile, a historic US-ally, the Sorelism (in a reformed way, like the OTL socialism) gain power and maybe will become in the second largest force, displacing to Chilean Left in the next years. This as result that in the current election, the sorelist candidate pass to the second round. I think that this would be interesting, considering that in your TL the two principal world alliances are falling. I will explore the situation of the Sorelism also in other south american nations. Regards! Katholico (talk) 06:38, July 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, that sound very good :) A new France-US friendly relationship is excelent :) Then, I will continues completing in the election article (maybe also i make a page for Sorelist Party). Also, exist in the TL a Sorelist international organization like OTL ideologies? If i'm wrong in something to make the articles you correct me please. Thanks and Regards! --Katholico (talk) 03:51, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see, I also was suspecting that no, but I preferred ask to you about, for resolve the doubt. :) All right i completed the results of the election... maybe would be good some mentions to the international reactions about the event, what thinks?. Tomorrow i will continue with the history of Argentina during the sorelist government established after the Brazilian collapse. I hope do the same with Brazil soon. Regards! :) --Katholico (talk) 08:04, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

TBYA Help
I am doing a project for my timeline where Latin America fights a war for independence. Because of the union between the afrench and Spanish thrones, the war will occur somewhat later. However, due to the discrimination factors in the colonies, these will be the main reasons for the war. And even if Napoleon tries his best on reform, the colonial governors block any effort. Finally, the people take the matter in their own hands and declare independence.

So without the Penninsular War, would Latin America gain independence? Just need your thoughts. --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 22:19, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Stirlings
Power to you, overall.

Given last year being so lackluster when I asked for ideas, I won't be doing that part again this time.

Changes:


 * A single writer category replacing the male/female ones. With only one female editor, there's just no point.
 * The current timeline/article/map game/DD article/maps/flag/images ones are going to be made more explicitly to only be new ones.
 * Will be adding ones for timeline and article of the year. Kind of a "best of" deal. Like the award for writers.
 * And a lifetime award for Map Games as well.

Lordganon (talk) 04:52, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Thought I'd leave you a note that the awards article has now been created.

All of the additions I told you about, minus the "article of the year" one, have been added.

Lordganon (talk) 03:18, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Changes
Do you remember the message you've left me about my Alternate History article 'Titanic: The Spark of World War'? I don't have that anymore, I made a huge change of it now. Max117D (talk) 19:19, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps you don't know that this is 'alternate history' and one unexpected event can cause a chain reaction that has effect on the entire world than the OTL. Also I had help with making this timeline when I get stumped, so if you want to complain about my 'Bitter Britain' timeline also let him know Mr. I-Criticize-to-the-extreme-no-matter-what-story-I-see-or-read.Max117D (talk) 21:39, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well excuse me, since you haven't worked your mind to almost craziness on focusing on this AH haven't you? I would've gone bonkers if my friend haven't given me some history points I missed. Max117D (talk) 03:46, November 23, 2012 (UTC)