User talk:Tbguy1992

French Industrial Revolution
Your "French Industrial Revolution" timeline has been nominated for deletion because it hardly contains any actual content, if you are still interested in writing this AltHist you are given four weeks time to let us know and to start writing on, otherwise it will be deleted.--Max Sinister 10:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

L'empire de Napoleanic se lèvera!‎
The title in proper french should be "L'empire napoléonien se lèvera!"--Marcpasquin 14:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Napoleon's World
I myself am perpetually working on my own Napoleonic AltHist Napoleon's World - however, his victory occurs in 1813, not 1805 as in yours. The early 1800's is the section I struggle the most with due to believability and such. Let me know what you think? I'd appreciate it enormously. Regards, KingSweden 00:42, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, always a pleasure. Let me know what I can do to improve my own TL. KingSweden 22:54, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Linking articles
You don't need to use the url to link articles in a wiki. Just add brackets around the article as so: The French Empire (French Trafalgar, British Waterloo). Thus it creates this: The French Empire (French Trafalgar, British Waterloo). If you don't want the title to show or you want the text of the link to be different from the destination, use a "|", for example: The French Empire. That would get you this: The French Empire. Mitro 20:08, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Images
You can't get an image to appear simply by linking to wikipedia. You have to save the image onto your computer, upload it onto this wiki and then use the file name on whatever article you want it to appear on. Mitro 20:20, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Culloden
I would love to write an alt his on what would have happened if the Jacobites had won Culloden. I know you are into the Napoleonic wars, and that would be the right time period, but I am having a lot of trouble finding out information about this time in history, specifically what would have changed. Please help. thanks.

Anna Geddes

Chinese modernaisation
I was reading about China in your French Trafalgar, British Waterloo timeline. I think you fail to realise that just because of a few wars, the Manchus would be unlikely to change their armies. They refused utterly to believe the Western barbarians were technologically more advanced than they were. In OTL, it took an army in Peking to convince them and even then they believed the upstart Europeans would be crushed by their obviously better armaments. It took the destruction of the Summer Palace to hammer home the point. I therefore find is somewhat disbelievable that they would look at the barbarians wars and think they would signify. Bob 20:32, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The denouement should not be a simple war. In the Manchus eyes just because the drill, disciplihne and armament of the Europeans is better, means nothing. In their eyes, they are barbarians and they will certainly fail. They think like this, just because a bigger boy can stamp down your sandcastle, it doesn't make him more civilised than you. I think the truth should be brought home in a more subtle way. For example, assuming the British get Hong Kong (or whoever, French Portuguese, Swiss just so long as they are Westerners and presumably imperialists) they would go to Peking to sign a treaty. The mere fact a barbarian Westerner entered the Forbidden City would shake them. And because he wouldn't kow-tow before the Celestial Prince, but look him in the eye as a man and as a man who has lost would be the killing blow for Manchu arrogance. Bob 17:12, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Possible collaboration
I was hoping that maybe I could possibly help you with some of the aticles in your timeline. It has the makings of a real whopper. Bob 18:48, May 5, 2010 (UTC) The population of the British Empire would at this point be overwhelmingly Indian. India alone compried about a third of the Empire's population. Whats to stop the colonial government from using this enormous population as a colonial tool. It was working in Sarawak where Chinese(themselves with a decent population) were encouraged to settle. Why not put that population to good use and use it to settle the sparsely populated and therefore weak British American territories. Or to beat the French in the Scramble for Africa. In OTL we encouraged British nobles to go to Africa. In this world why not a few Indian princes. Not only that but by reducing the population of India you would reduce nationalism, therefore tightening British power. Its like a vaster and more elaborate version of Sierra Leone. Bob 16:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

With the advent of this ethnic mixing a trend would appear which I have detailed on the UK page. The typical Britisher as seen around the world would increasingly be an English-speaking man who wears British style clothes and works hard for Queen and country but his ethnicity is closer to the Punjab than Perth! The Empire would be reforged over a matter of years as the white British identity and the Indian colonist identity are fused together. Bob 10:44, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Allies, Axis and Communism
Would you accept a version of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and the German-Soviet Commercial Pact? I hope you will accept. Fegaxeyl 14:48, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

As you may know Vegas Addict and I have been debating as to whether Brazil would invade Argentina, and which side the USSR would support. I'll just lay out the basic situation:

Supporting Brazil: Supporting Argentina: It's your choice as to which way you go, but remember there will be CONSEQUENCES... Fegaxeyl 17:52, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gain powerful South American ally
 * Ally has mostly identical political leanings
 * Loss of any benefits gained in the alliance with Germany, Japan, Italy and other Axis states
 * Earn trust of Germany and other Axis states
 * Solidify position as an active and powerful member of the Axis
 * Lose some face in the global communist community (but as in OTL the USSR had dropped its World Revolution rhetoric this may not be as important)

Write Next
Please write the next section for The New & Improved map game (Map Game). --Catherine 22:41, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

I would love to see more on your timeline Titanic, the Luckiest Ship in the World. --Catherine 19:47, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

You could write that the Titanic remains in service for 40 years, from 1912-1952. Have it it survived World Wars I and II and that instead of being scrapped when it was retired, that it was instead restored to it's 1912 incranation and made a floating museum of maritime history. --Catherine 20:00, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

That would not sound fair. I want Titanic to still be pretty famous. --Catherine 20:12, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Britanic would have been called Gigantic in this timeline as it was only renamed after the sinking of the TitanicVegas adict 20:15, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh.

Will you please also read Russian Empire (Constantine's Russia) and give me advice on how I can improve it. Also, please continue work on the Titanic timeline. I die for more.--Catherine 20:17, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

French Trafalgar, British Waterloo
I took a look at the additions you've made, it looks great! I was wondering if you could sneak a peak at a few of my pages (specifically the ones concerning Alaska and let me know what you think - there's only a few, but I've been giving them a lot of work. KingSweden 23:33, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

That would be alright I guess, as long as everything fits into the TL I envisioned. If things deviate too much I'll probably give them an edit or two, so don't take personal offense if I do. KingSweden 17:19, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I took a look at your TL and love the way you're setting up the pending World War in North America and Europe - I don't know what I could do to add to it at the moment. But feel free to make your contributions to Napoleon's World like we discussed! Once there's more on yours so I can get a sense of your direction, I'll make a few articles for you. KingSweden 23:41, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

When will you?
When will you expand Timeline (Titanic, the Luckiest Ship in the World)? I am begging for a lot more, and have been waiting for days for the adventure to continue. --Catherine 15:15, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah! When will you get back to work? --Catherine 15:19, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Good work. I look foward to more. I would love to see Titanic and Olympic surviving World War II as well, also acting as transport ships, and them being de-commissioned in 1952, renovated to their 1912 look, and made maritime museums on water. --Catherine 16:22, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, make the Titanic the museum ship, and sell the Olympic to a rich businessman. --Catherine 18:14, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I die for more on Titanic. --Catherine 18:49, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Roger that. I will not message for Titanic anymore. --Catherine 18:56, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yesterday, you said today you would work on Titanic. --Catherine 16:47, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! You had no right to be rude like that. I will leave you alone, but don't yell at me again. You made me f***** angry! --Catherine 16:58, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Continue with whatever you want to do. --Catherine 17:20, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Why are you taking so long to work on the Titanic timeline? I am impatient and irritated. --Catherine 17:17, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay. I have another question: can you tell me a link to a good alternate history timeline of the British Empire? --Catherine 17:41, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Help me!!! (AAC)
I wasn't counting on Japan making Chile a puppet, as i was asuming that they couldn't get past the carriers (Which it seems everyone has ignored) and would apreciate the USSR's suport in thisVegas adict 21:16, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uraguy might fall into the USSR's sphere of ifluence as it had been ocupied by the Nazi'sVegas adict 09:09, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Great Britain in FTBW
I noticed on the last paragraph that Great Britain has one of the largest armies in Europe. Now even up to the First World War in OTL, the UK tended to have a small army and a menacingly vast Navy. Whats changed? Also about the American Civil War thing. I was thinking that the British would support the CSA because they would want to weaken the USA in any way they can. Bob 09:01, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Whats next?
Whats happening next in FTBW? Bob 12:56, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good! I like the fact the real Napoleon III comes to power. Maybe you could have a thing that the British utilise a few native regiments. I had a thought that one of the Indian officers performs brilliantly whearas elsewhere on the battlefield, white officers are doing poorly. This further disproves the myth of the white mans superiority. This means elsewhere in the Empire, native people become more key in the running of the Empire, drawing it closer together. Bob 10:09, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I am back from my exile. Did you edit the Titanic timeline or did you just go f*** around? --Catherine 19:24, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for using the word "f***". I am just angry and frusturated a lot of the time. I am just waiting for you to edit.

Fine, I give you time, you little f***face! You have had two months to expand the timeline, and that you did not do! --Catherine 19:41, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

You can be that way! I don't give a damn thought about your ideas. If you will not update the timeline, I will do so myself. --Catherine 19:50, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

My Official Apology for my Behavior
I am sorry for my behavior and my manners towards you. I never actually intended to call you "fuckface" or to be rude to you. I am sorry for trying to prod you into working on the Titanic timeline. I will no longer bother you, and you can have as much time as you want to work on your timelines. Again, I am sorry and revoke my actions. Please accept my apology. It never happen again, and if it does, in any way, you can report me to the administrators.

Signed,

--Catherine 01:53, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting my apology. Now I can help you with your Titanic Timeline. --Catherine 02:54, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I well do nothing wrong. --Catherine 03:12, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Let us move foward with what we must do, General. (The picture was that of a military officer, which I thought was a General. Smiles.) --Catherine 03:20, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Europe 1430
I wasn't going to work on it originally, but if you're going to help me I guess I'll do it. ProfessorMcG 14:45, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! ^ That must've came out wrong! No, I'm only reluctant because I've never done a timeline before and I don't want to be a hassle to you. But it will most likely work so, let's do it! ProfessorMcG 19:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. You have 911 edits....wierd. ProfessorMcG 19:52, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Jeanne d'Arc doesn't get captured by the Burgundians in 1428, or whenever... ProfessorMcG 23:54, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

France already became a superpower. ProfessorMcG 15:36, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

How about Jeanne d'Arc convinces the French to make a gamble against the English, but they make a mistake and England takes advantage and instead of France slowly taking Normandy, France belongs to England. Burgundy would get into a war with England and a lot could happen. ProfessorMcG 15:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

The Sun Never Sets on the French Empire. I like it =) ProfessorMcG 17:48, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't even understand how it works. Can you enlighten me? =) ProfessorMcG 04:55, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

On CYOAH, how do we make an edit? ProfessorMcG 05:01, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Idea
That might be a neat idea. Kinda like a map game only with more detail and fewer maps. Go ahead if you feel like it.Oerwinde 07:26, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to turn something into a community project. Most seem to just spring into life.Oerwinde 08:08, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Like the choose your own alt
I love that someone has finally stepped up and tried something COMPLETELY different for a change. I choose to poison Hitler by the way, in the earliest POD.--DaBigUn 04:06, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's not a bad idea, very original. And btw I LOVED what you did with "Titanesque." Petain dying onboard actually fits more perfectly into canon than you can ever imagine, even if I didn't realize it until you stuck it in there. Well done my friend. KingSweden 15:23, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

TL
What you're describing for Winston Churchill could work, at least in 1915 - however, do keep in mind that in his later career he becomes a leading member of Socialist England and even their Premier before his assassination in 1945. See: The Anarchy (Napoleon's World) for more details on that. Your Churchill idea doesn't actually breach canon though, since the Socialist Revolution in England doesn't occur until 1920-22, and perhaps Churchill rode his fame as a writer into power within the Socialist Party? An interesting idea.

Also, Winnipeg exists under its OTL name, and is in fact the capital of the State of Kahokia, just north of Minnesota and Lake Superior. The strike would still probably happen as you are describing it though. KingSweden 16:20, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think it works just fine. I was just making sure you wouldn't put a whole bunch of effort into the life of Winston Churchill, I'd feel bad if I had to make serious edits to something somebody else put work into because it doesn't fit canon. Your idea is a good one and works out great.KingSweden 18:55, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Very true. Besides, look at men such as Reagan, Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura - many people who started off careers in film/literature later pursued talents in politics. You make a great point. KingSweden 01:43, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

That sounds great, but what was the OTL Alfred Dreyfus affair? And what Emperor would have been reigning at the time? KingSweden 02:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think you've got a potential article there. I told you before you could contribute to the TL as long as I could modify small details to fit canon, so go ahead. I think that could fit well into the leadup to the Iron Revolution as well, if in OTL it had lingering consequences all the way into Vichy France. Use your imagination and whip something up!KingSweden 02:59, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, I'll do some work on it to refine some of the finer points and details. Good work though. KingSweden 08:10, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Central World
Hi Tbuguy1992 might you create an article for Central World, I'm trying to turn it into a community project. Please Answer Me. VENEZUELA 18:01, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maps
I'd love to help you! I have a drawing tablet, photoshop elements and corel paint in my inventory.--Smallpox 04:42, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

You didn't sound harsh at all, and I'm completely fine with your rules, are there any maps that have a sort of priority for you right now?--Smallpox 05:58, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good.--Smallpox 06:13, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'm eastern time here, so it'll be 10 here. Whoo, 700th edit...--Smallpox 06:29, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

==Wasteland Europe==

Hey, if you can, could you help me out with Wasteland Europe? Feel free to expand it, because it is an open timeline afterall. Arstarpool 21:58, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reply: Chuck Norris
To answer your question, I think you have a good start. The Olympics in this TL are in 1978, 1982 and 1986 (in Samarkand, Kialgory and Cairo, respectively... there's a page with more information on that in the sports subcategory.) However, the course of their lives are a little too similar to OTL I feel, especially Johnny Cash's. The Foxworthy idea I like as a core idea, but how do these ideas reflect the ATL as a whole? That is the one complaint I've had with some of the additions made to this page - they're just an Alternate Destiny, not an Alternate Destiny in Napoleon's World, if you get what I mean. Don't get me wrong, I love the contributions, I guess the challenge I'm giving you is this: what makes these three people unique within a different reality, as opposed to our own? Maybe I've just seen Inception a few too many times... Hmm.

I do think that you have a great start on those three though. Keep up the good work! KingSweden 15:37, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if that last post came off as harsh. You've had really good contributions to the TL.

The Brooks idea is great. I was thinking about it over breakfast actually and I realized that his initial fame could be as a star track athlete at the 1982 Kialgory Olympics in Alaska, where his performance was a Michael Phelps-esque epic in an otherwise pedestrian showing for American teams, and an especially unique one in a neighboring rival such as Alaska (when thinking of Alaska, imagine the US's playful rivalry with Canada fused with the American fear and distaste for Russia fused into one country). Maybe he later rode his athletic fame into journalism? As for his "uncovering of scandals," that could work circa 2004, when despite the popularity of outgoing Nationalist President Mitt Romney, Brooks could expose major flaws in the National Party's campaign structure, thus paving the way for Jay Leno's narrow victory over Jeb Bush?

I don't think the War on Drugs would ever have become as major of a concern in ATL, since there is no real Reaganesque figure to lead that charge (the conservative icon is Richard van Dyke, a pragmatist, and Liz Shannon and Robert Redford were too busy stopping economic collapse and nuclear war to bother with drugs). However, that doesn't mean that drugs wouldn't have been a major problem in the US - an interesting idea. Go with Cash however you see fit. And while the Philly Race Riots are significant, maybe his decline in the public eye by 1983 would be a major reason why he was unable to respond in the same way to the far more violent Covenant Race Riots in January of '83? A thought. Let me know what you think.

Why not just have Foxworthy replace Stewart or Colbert? We're giving him an alternate lifetime anyways, maybe its Foxworthy who is on the Daily Show, not Stewart. I like your satirical "Colbert 2012" idea though. KingSweden 17:09, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like you have a future governor of Kahokia on your hands (you were from Winnipeg, right?) KingSweden 15:01, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay. Well, you would still be a proud Kahokian in ATL and probably wear the green and white of the U of K Thundering Herd (I'm a sports nut haha). I see no problem with you including your grandfather in the TL in a minor but honored role. However, I feel your statement that "fictional characters opens a Pandoras Box," and I personally am 100% against the prospect. The Alternate Destinies page is getting out of control as it is, AND, although you yourself have contributed a lot of good stuff to this TL, other users seem to think that the entire timeline is like a Napoleonic Puget Sound-1. I want to start getting the whole thing back on track towards the fully-fleshed out world it is meant to be.

That said, guns away on putting your grandfather in. Maybe a state page on Kahokia and mentioning him in the state's history? I'll leave it up to you, its your grandfather and your region of expertise (literally). KingSweden 15:31, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Use Your Discretion
This is your part of the country and your family, so use your discretion. Obviously Kahokia is a larger state than Dakota (population wise) so that's really your decision. KingSweden 16:34, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

CYOAH
I would be honored to be a controller for CYOAH. I assume the responsibilites would be like a moderator on the site, except for the timeline? Azecreth 17:57, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Joining CYOAH
Hi! I really like your idea for CYOAH, and was wondering if you would let me do the follow-up articles for "Hitler dies 1933, by accident".

Thanks!

Eastward Expansion 22:03, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh well...

That was really my fault not yours, but thanks for saying sorry anyway! Eastward Expansion 01:05, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

A radical idea for the future of CYOAH
TB, CYOAH is huge success, and quite popular too, but I think we are leaving money on the table. Thus far, all the POD's have pertained only to a small section of history, so I think, why not open it up? Not just "Hitler must die" but also stuff like "A Spartan victory at Thermopolyae" I mean, there are many more historical eras that could be explored in this Choose Your Own Alternate History kind of way. Of course, first we would have to wait until the heat dies down on the first one; it is just getting going, with more brainwashed slaves followers joining our ranks every day, we ought not pull the rug out from under their feet just yet.

TL;DR, I think we should explore different areas of history with the CYOAH genre, but not until a later date when we have plenty of minions community helpers, helpers who can not only be exploited, but also have begun to get bored with the current area of CYOAH; IE a stimulus package to stop CYOAH from pulling a 1983: DD.

Signed,

CYOAH lieutenant Jazon Naparleon

Jazon Naparleon 23:51, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: For any "helpers" out there, I meant no offense when I refered to you as minions.

Deletion of certain years...
In CYOAH, there are two starter years that me and Jazon listed our reasons to delete here. We think that those pages and their subsequent pages should be deleted.

If your ok with this, than I can just delete them for you.

Eastward Expansion 22:50, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on here. EE, I hate to go JFK on your Cuban revolution here, but I never actually stated that I wished both of those to be deleted. But, TB, I must say that the 1973 offshoot is lacking in realism, or any real explanaion on how Hitler came to rule over all of Afro-Eurasia without a PoD until the seventies. The '61 offshoot is also lacking in those areas, henceforth, it is both my opinion, and that of the people, that they either be changed, or deleted. Your call.

Sincerely,

Lieutenant Fuhrer grammar Nazi, WSJ Chairman, CYOAH Lieutenant Jazon Naparleon 23:23, July 22, 2010 (UTC)