User talk:SouthWriter/sandbox/An atheist's objections/@comment-1375165-20100810184030

Fegaxeyl, you say that Christians are using an escape clause to explain God's existence, but it seems more like you're using "escape clauses" (by the definition you seem to be using) to try and explain him away. You say "we know that nothing exists outside the universe". From where do you think that? Even ignoring religion, there are numerous scientific theories (M-theory for one) which propose the existence of things outside our own universe. The reason some propose those theories and others don't is simply that we don't know what is outside of the universe. How can we? We're inside it! We can't even observe events from the beginning of the universe, much less before or outside of it.

Science, which is an observational tool, not an ideology, is useless on that subject matter. I'm often amazed at how many people who "dispose" of religion put science in its place and take bigger leaps of faith with science than religious people take with God. I'm not saying that you do, but I've seen many who do.

@Riley: If God made himself known to everyone, then faith would be gone. We'd have perfect or near-perfect knowledge of God. We would be like how the Bible describes Angels, and so I'd wager we wouldn't even have free will in that case. Quite frankly I like the way things are now and I very much enjoy my free will =D