Talk:Night of the Living Alternate History (Map Game)

=Resources=

Current Article Proposals
Pages that are of questionable continuity, require reworking, or are not canon will be listed as a proposal. This signifies that it is currently not canon. Hopefully this will help avoid confusion.

Please list all current article proposals here. If the proposals only involves a specific section of the article, please state that. Also remember to mark the proposal page with the proposal template. To graduate an article, move to have the article graduated and if no one objects the article will be considered canon (see the editorial guidelines for more information on this process.

Californian Revolution of 1981
Page by IstocnoSarajevo

Northern California
Page by IstocnoSarajevo

Thor's Hammer
Nominate this to become obsolete. Mscoree (talk) 20:52, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Nation Tiers
Currently unimplemented. Mscoree (talk) 20:54, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Touhou Project
Article by me about the Touhou Project series. -Kogasa  2013 June 02, 11:38 (CET)

Archives
Previous archives for the talk page.

Changelog
Original map still in use. Mscoree (talk) 14:05, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

1970.5: Expanded Bay Republic (as their expanding), addest Israel, expanded Zombies, uncolored/colored certain nations, expanded Free Alaska. Daxus Inferno (talk) 14:04, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

1971.25: Shows campaign in England, London removed, French border updated, Brittanny added to UK, Vietnam border updated, Cyprus added, Chicago area updated, infection added in northern Africa and Venezuela, Phillipines added, Pacific islands fixed. Map made by Daxus Inferno. Mscoree (talk) 00:31, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

1972.75: Added zombie movement in Africa, Asia, Middle East, and South America. Showed campaigns in North America. Added annexed Free Alaskan territory. Recolored some nations. Removed South Vietnam. Fixed islands near Japan. Added Halifax (and other nations). Mscoree (talk) 22:37, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

1975: Remade map using more detailed, provincial map.

1983: +Added Belieze +added Alaskan, Canadian and United Republics Colonies. +added changes reflecting Treaty of Cordoba 1983 +added French expansion +added Central Italy (Naples) and expansion +fixed Yemen issue +fixed progress in Middle East War

List of Changes Needed
'''I've taken the last few requests and made them into a list. From now on all requests should be added to this list. Cross out when completed.'''


 * The Galapagos Islands should be Colombia colored.
 * the changes from the Treaty of Dubai need to be added.
 * Eastern Turkey should be given back to Turkey, except for the area around Adana (to EHU).
 * The new borders from the Treaty of Albuquerque need to be added.
 * Brazil's new borders need to be added.
 * China should be removed
 * Inner Mongolia should be Mongolian colored.
 * Dinetah should be added.
 * Chan Santa Cruz is now as far north as Mexico city in the center, Tuxpan on the east coast and Zihuatanejo on the west.
 * Djibouti should be Yemen colored.
 * Belarus and Ukraine should be added
 * Thrace should be made a different color to avoid confusion with Romania.
 * Turkmenistan should be part of the Russian Federation.
 * The Sinai Peninsula should actually belong to Israel since they hasn't been returned to Egypt.
 * The United Republics of Guinana (light blue in the Guinanas region of South America) should be removed.
 * The Kirl Islands and the Island of Sakhalin needs to be added to Russia.
 * Brittany should be independent.
 * The changes from the Treaty of Syracuse need to be added.

Discussion
It might be a good idea to use the space in the bottom left of the map to show China without any zombies. Mscoree (talk) 14:04, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

My Antarctic claims aren't on here... RevenantAscension (talk) 19:20, April 23, 2013 (UTC)(Florida)

What are you claims? Mscoree (talk) 21:46, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

My claims in Antarctica (as of 1975, when I originally Made them and began building a fortified base in the Transantarctic Mountains) from 150 W (or from wherever the U.S. claim to Marie Byrd Land ends) to 80 E. RevenantAscension (talk) 12:34, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Free Alaska now has soverignity over all of Alaska.

South Africa should be colored, with the nations of Lesotho and the surrounding area a lighter color. Mscoree (talk) 13:13, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

The map still has communist and zombies within the borders of Argentina, according to mod events, communsim never entered Argentina nor should be below the border of Argentina in Chile as there is a defensive wall. G greg e (talk) 18:51, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Claiming the rest of Antarctica. RevenantAscension (talk) 19:18, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

MAKE THE MAP BIGGER -OREOTOAST

I would be willing to make/edit the map, on the condition that people make a list of changes required of it or post mini-maps of what their region should look like. G greg e (talk)

Current Map?
Okay, I don't see my country on the World map, let alone many of the other new nations...I don't have the software to update it, but PLEASE someone update it. Thanks. Daeseunglim (talk) 02:03, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Help me make a list of new nations and their boundries and ill update it to the best of my ability. G greg e (talk) 03:11, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

I will begin to make a list tonight if possible. If you have any nations to add we'll do it on a newly created map discussion/editors page G greg e (talk) 03:18, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ill be using this page here  Map Discussion and Changelog (Night of the Living Alternate History Map Game) We don't really need another page, just post it here.

Check out the map... working on Antartica, i need a sit report on Europe and Asia  to continue

I posted this on Imperium Guy's talk page:

Here are a few changes that need to be made on your current map.


 * Montana should be under US control done
 * Pittsburgh (southwest Pennsylvania shouldn't be US) added to Erie
 * Susquehanna needs to be added already is...a different shade has been applied
 * All of Key West should be the Conch Republic (light blue) done
 * British Columbia (the province) should be clear it is...dark shade of purple...lighter shade applied
 * British Columbia (the nation in OTL Vancouver) should be colored done
 * Brazil should have all of southern Brazil, including Rio De Janiero, and be touching Bolivia Brazil increased...maybe even more?
 * You should probably remove the zombies at this point since most of them are already removed from the map. Instead just show the nations' borders done
 * France should be touching Brittany through the western coastline done
 * Scandinavia and the Confederation of the Baltics (although holding strong ties) should probably be different colors since right now its kind of confusing done
 * The USSR controls all of the Turkish occupied processions in Romania and should control all of the coast, into Bulgaria.
 * The USSR controls Crimea
 * Canada doesn't control Greenland according to their posts, they colonized the coastal regions of it, for now i shall leave it
 * Jutland is not controlled by Scandinavia or the Confederation of the Baltics (uncolored) done
 * The German, Italian, and Baltic city states of Brunswick, Lüneburg, Ingria, Livonian Confederation, Hesse, Oldenburg, Anhalt, Pomerania, Bavaria, Venice, Frankfurt, Oldenburg should be marked out in some way or left uncolored left uncolored for now
 * The Teutonic Order should be colored I think I did this correctaly 
 * Austria should be colored done
 * Oman should be uncolored it is
 * Alaska should control all of OTL Alaska, including the islands north of Vancouver done
 * Japan should be cleared of zombies done
 * Saudi Arabia should control all of OTL Saudi Arabia done
 * The Soviets should control Turkish Rize, Erzurum, and everything from there to the border, and south to Lake Van done
 * The EHU (use Saudi Arabia's color) controls Turkish Bingol, Mus, everything between Lake Van and Diyarbikar, Hatay, and the area near Adana done, I am using a different green, since its not Saudi Land, but its semi-related

Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 13:35, May 12, 2013 (UTC) My responses are Italicized G greg e (talk) 

Antarctica claims are as follows (even if not shown on the map): USA 150W to 180 1975 (after UR claims), UR 150W to 20W 1972, 1974, Norwegian successor state inherits 20W to 44E, Commonwealth 44 to French claim (light blue) then to 180. Florida also claims 80E to 180, overlapping Commonwealth and inherited French claims 1975 after US claims

Ideally all nations with a government need to be colored, so that will be the next update: lets start another list!!!G greg e (talk)

Frankly, having zombies on the map would make things less confusing. OreoToast555(Talk) 21:01, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

More changes:
 * Cyprus needs to be US colored since it is currently occupied.
 * EHU should have one province more to the west (Adana, north of Cyprus) and three more provinces to the north.
 * The Soviets have pushed two provinces west.
 * France has taken Paris.
 * Oman still needs to uncolored.
 * Yemen needs to be colored

Mscoree (talk) 12:47, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * added Yemen, other European City-states that appear to have government in recent mod events

The Galapagos Islands should be Colombia colored. Mscoree (talk) 15:07, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

The changes from the Treaty of Dubai need to be added. Mscoree (talk) 19:13, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Eastern Turkey should be given back to Turkey, except for the area around Adana (to EHU). Mscoree (talk) 02:36, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

The new borders from the Treaty of Albuquerque need to be added. Doctor Evulz (talk) 14:00, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Brazil's new borders need to be added. Mscoree (talk) 14:42, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

'''I've taken the last few requests and made them into a list. From now on all requests should be added to this list.''' Mscoree (talk) 17:34, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

TO DO LIST
Want to contribute more to this map game, but don't know where to start? Try doing one of these simple tasks, which can greatly improve the map game. Here's your opportunity to really show your creativity.

Nations
If you have not already done so, please create a short profile for your nation detailing some basic information and history. Just click on your nation below to get started. If you have created a nation, but your nation isn't list on the template, contact Mscoree so it can be added.

The above template should also appear at the bottom of your nation profile, and at the bottom of all NotLAH pages.

Feel free to start contributing to the other pages as well.

Here is an example of a nation profile: here. Copy the text on that page (in source) and paste it onto your nation page (in source), then change the information.

The Nations page is also in need of improvement. You can help by adding your nation's information.

You can also add your current territories and colonies to the Territories page.

Art
Here are some art/map/flag stuff that you can do.
 * Make flags (see below)
 * Add already existing flags to the nations on the main page

Flags
Nations that need flags. Try to be logic with flag creation by researching the region and creating a flag that positively displays that regions roots/mother country.
 * Juarez
 * Republic of Alaska (Alaskan Rebels)
 * Northwest Federation
 * Forgottonia
 * Isle of Wight
 * London
 * Northern Ireland
 * Wu

Wars
Navigate to the Wars page and begin adding information for each war and battle.

Here is an example of a war page: here.

Featured NotLAH Article
This could be YOUR page:

On the portal page there is a new section for featured articles. This prestigious award will be given out each month to a well written article. Start making pages, and your page might be selected for next month. Good luck everyone! Mscoree (talk) 12:45, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Featured

 * United States April
 * Human-Zombie War May
 * Middle East War June

Proposals

 * Star Wars - I think this page is suitable to be featured.
 * United Republics - While I am still finishing and continue to update this page, I think it finally is presentable.
 * Treaty of Susquehanna - Is it okay? Daeseunglim (talk) 16:49, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Was this intended for the article proposal section, or to be featured? Mscoree (talk) 22:10, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion
=General Discussion=

Indian Conference
This conference between the nations of the ULN has been called to discuss the liberation of the Indian subcontinent from the zombie horde, provide adequate humanitarian aid to its people, and establish a stable government in the region.

Strategy
A joint military invasion of India, possibly from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Nations in the fighting will occupy certain areas of India until a stable government can be established.

Possible divisions of India:

Mscoree will edit this map as people begin to claim zones in the discussion.

Discussion

 * United States: We propose assembling an invasion force in Bangladesh and Pakistan to enter northern India from land. Naval forces can bombard the southern regions, stationed at Sri Lanka, and help to liberate the coast. We propose to occupy the southern tip of India (in blue).
 * Japan: Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone proposes to liberate and occupy Kerala. Some fleets will be sent to Kochi, and will liberate the state of Kerala from there.
 * United Republics: Will liberate and occupy the regions of Goa, Darda and Nagar Haveli, Daman and Diu, and the Western third of Maharashtra to 25 miles east of the cities of Pune and Nashik and the road connecting them.
 * Russian Federation: We will come in from the west by an amphibious landing force and occupy most provinces bordering Nepal and Calcutta.
 * Austria: We will aid and assit other ULN nations in occupying India, but Austria will not be able to send enough troops to occupy a province ourselves. Rather we will be focused on military matters in Central Europe.
 * United States: We propose that the area on the eastern coast be joint occupied between the US, Austria, HRE, and other supporting nations.
 * Commonwealth: We will take the southernmost provinces.
 * United States: The southernmost provinces are already claimed.
 * Actually Commonwealth, South Africa, and UR origionally planned this operation in a meeting (on chat) and made rough claims during that. Commonwealth did say they were planning on making a claim on the Southernmost portion of India at that time. This was before the plan was announced to the CSTO or UN. G greg e (talk)
 * Chat is out of character and are therefore not legitimate claims, just declarations of intentions. Since these nations claimed their areas in game they will be selected. Mscoree (talk) 01:30, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand the chat is not a part of the game. But still he proposed the idea on here and to the CSTO, just because you posted the discussion to the talk page does not mean you should get first dibs, especially since he posted and proposed the idea in the first place. G greg e (talk) 01:46, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Please be Careful!
Somehow when Northern California posted my turn got deleated. If someone can recouver my turn please do so. I cant remember every little detail i typed. G greg e (talk) 01:45, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Your turn has been recovered. Mscoree (talk) 01:52, June 18, 2013 (UTC)