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Joe McCarthy (FTBW)
In this TL, I'm going to make McCarthy less right wing, though still tough on America's most dangerous enemy, this time being Sorelism. As such, I'm also going to change his death into something else, though possibly linked to past alcohol abuse (after all, I have way to many heart attacks and strokes for many of the people I've named, maybe liver failure would work instead, I don't know.) Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 01:28, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the AIF is the FTBW version of OTL's FIFA. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 14:11, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that... I was trying to rework that article, and I guess I forgot to fix that >_> Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 02:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Opinion about Russian America
Long time no see. I have been fine, you?

I am honored you have come for my opinion. I have skimmed through the your timeline (I may not speak Spanish, but I can make out enough to understand what is happening). If my understanding is correct, England becomes a republic, which by far would screw up the British Empire in the Americas. Mexico annexes Louisiana??? That sounds very far fetched to me, but this is coming from an American who is used to the fact that we won over Mexico (XD). And the US collapses? (*brain has just exploded*). Either way, that does sound intriguing. A little out of my league, but very interesting.

In my opinion, with the UK gone, Mexico acting as a big buffer state between the US and the Pacific, and peaceful relations between Mexico and Russia, than I would definitely say Russia would expand under those circumstances. How far Alaska would expand depends highly on Mexico. If Fort Ross remained Russian, than Russia has the possibility to expand as far south. Pretty much the same border as what I have for my timeline. So in the end, it highly depends on Mexico.

I hope this helps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:52, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Quick little note. I love it when you say "jejeje."


 * I have been doing some thinking about it while at work, and I believe I have my answer for you. But let's start with the basics. I love the idea of a Republic of England. The only thing I will add is... if it became a republic as part of WWI, than Ireland would include the entire island. Northern Ireland only exists because that part of the island wanted to remain in the UK after Dublin declared independence. But either way, they would end up back in Ireland had they gained independence today.


 * Now onto the main part... Mexico. First off... as a Sorry American who feels bad we annexed parts of Mexico, I support the idea of Mexico getting revenge and annexing parts of the US (XD). But as a historian, there is a BIG problem with this idea. When the US annexed California, the US was annexing underpopulated territories of Mexico (this doesn't include the annexation of the independent Republic of Texas, or the Gadsden Purchase). If Mexico were to have annexed the Louisiana Purchase area around the same time, they would be annexing well developed states. Here is a map showing what the US looked like at the start of the Mexican-American War.


 * From what you are telling me, and from what I can make out, Mexico would gain international assistance in the Mexican-American War, leading to a Mexican victory. Aside from the territories, I doubt Mexico could gain a border on the Mississippi. Even if Mexico were to gain these regions, they would probably gain infighting from the region, potentially leading to a second Texan Revolution. If you want my guess, I would say Mexico's best chance at annexing any part of the US would be the Oregon Territory (since it once was part of Mexico [actually New Spain, but who's counting]), and maybe as far as the Missouri River (which would include only the "Unrecognized Territory" on the map I showed you).


 * The next part is the CSA. I am sorry to say, but there is a HUGE problem that make the continuation of the CSA almost impossible for your timeline... no Pacific coast. One of the main reasons the Civil War broke out is because of how to expand slavery to the Pacific. With no Pacific, I doubt the CSA would last long. In fact, I came across this same problem in my Russian America timeline. What I came up with is that only the states south of Virginia and Kentucky join the Confederacy. With nothing to really gain, Virginia remains out of the CSA, which means General Robert E. Lee fights for the Union, and the Civil War ends sooner. I doubt this would change here, especially with a more powerful Mexico (which hated the CSA by the way).


 * Now to Alaska. If the POD is 1838... we are in luck. Fort Ross was sold in 1841. But I doubt it would have any more luck here than OTL. But I can see an interesting idea for the Fort and surrounding region (if you don't mind me writing down my thoughts). Obviously, Mexico would have a positive relationship with Russia, so maybe they would allow the Russian culture and language to continue in the Russian River region. Over time, it could turn into a Cajun-like situation, in which the region would gain statehood in Mexico, creating a Russian-based state in Mexico. This was an idea I came up with long ago, it just seems to fit well here.


 * But since the POD is 1838, this doesn't change the fact that the UK and Russia had already agreed on the present day border of Alaska. Along with the already large presence of the British in the Pacific Northwest by this time, I have do now doubt Russia would be able to expand at this point in time. However, since Alaska remains Russian, and the UK collapses, it could be possible that in the chaos in Canada after the collapse of the UK, and the chaos in Mother Russia during the Russian Revolution, it could be possible that Alaska (which I think would have declared independence by now) would expand their influence into the unpopulated portions of British North America. At my guess, the Yukon Territory and the former would be annexed quickly, while any attempt to annex British Columbia would be a waste. If anything, Alaska would expand eastward rather than southward.


 * Well anyway, these are just my thoughts, but this is your timeline. Either way, I hope I was able to help out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 03:25, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem, glad I could help. Sorry for getting the wrong idea, but it does take me a long time to understand the details of another timeline, plus the fact that I understand little about the CSA myself. The main reason Mexico (in OTL) hated the CSA is because they had support in northern Mexico (Sonora, Chihuahua, and the Rio Grande states) to the point that the CSA considered annexing them (which is what I have done in my timeline about the CSA. But if the Mexican population was still outraged at the USA, than I guess an alliance with the CSA wouldn't be out of the question. Also, I am glad you like my Russian America ideas. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:03, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh sure, no problem at all. I love doing maps, and this should be a piece of cake. Sorry for the delayed response, my mind has been focused on another timeline of mine. So for the map, how did you want me to alter it? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 06:02, January 8, 2012 (UTC)




 * No problem. How's this (took me two minutes XD). --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 06:25, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Valdivia
Yes, that's a good idea. It could have severely damaged the Chilean economy. I think I remember the part of the House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende where the earthquake happens.

KingSweden 00:00, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Template
Gracias por la ayuda. No hay problema que se hagan correciones de las plantillas u orotgraficas. JorgeGG 21:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
The game is starting now. Thanks for playing. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

AIF (FTBW)
I would greatly appreciate the help with the football articles, as I'm not a sports person, so I would prefer if more knowledgeable people than myself work on them.

As for South America: I think they will be a model of stability in the world. Brazil will soon take the lead, and disassociate itself with France around 2006 or so, and create the "Third Way" for nations that do not want to be involved in the Dual-Powers conflict. It would be something along the lines of reforming the Brazilian Bloc, but instead of competing with the other two powers, they would become a way for nations to distance itself form France or America. I could see most of South America, as well as nations like Australasia, South Africa, India and maybe Palestine (they are going to try to remain aloof of the wars in the Middle East after the devastating conflicts they fought during the 70s and 80s) joining this new bloc. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 17:33, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the Non-Aligned Movement was what I was kinda thinking of. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 18:35, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * 1922 works alright. The world has mostly recovered from the immediate devastation from the war, and the desire to try to prevent it from happening again would convince the major football nations of the world to get together and host this tournament. I also added Bordeaux as the city the AIF is head quartered in. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 06:18, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking of placing it in Brazil (as Switzerland is, technically, part of the French Empire since the end of the Third Global War), and since it was founded in France, it would remain in France. This would, indeed, make Americans and Russians and other Juneau Pact nations nervous/unwilling to attend this competition, but they have, and will continue to do so. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 07:03, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, it is 1922, so a country like France should be able to host it. I would say a larger country should host it until after the Third Global War, just due to the belief that the more powerful nations are indeed more capable of holding such events. And, as for Chile... I was running out of ideas for where to host the Winter Olympics. Besides the obvious choices of Alyseka, US, France, Scandinavia, Russia and Japan, I needed a different place, and a South American town in the Andes made sense for once. Yeah, I'm sure I can move it around. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 15:51, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I have no idea. I barely have the rudements of football/soccer down, so I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm going to let you do almost whatever you want with football in this world (make up the teams, the championships, tournaments, jersey's, whatever.) This is your ball, so run with it (literally :P) Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 04:56, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I have heard of the Football War in OTL. I do not think that will be possible in FTBW, mostly due to the larger nations in Latin America. Riots and such will happen, but say a particularly devastating one in the 1980's over a screwed up call (which I believe the Football War was about). Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 06:06, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil (FTBW)
You are right, I should have maybe expanded that more. I was thinking that the Emperor died without a heir, so it was decided to make it a republic. However, the republic soon became a one part democracy, before at last Emílio Garrastazu Médici takes over power as "President," though elections are still being held (just for approved candidates) until the end of the Venezuelan War, when Brazil becomes a Military dictatorship until Fernando Henrique Cardoso becomes President in 1998, at which point democracy is restored, though the executive still holds a lot of power in comparison to other democracies. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 03:12, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, changing the flag and COA might be a good idea now that Brazil is a Republic. I haven't gotten around to that yet, though I was thinking of keeping them as a reminder of the past from Brazil. But maybe modernizing them would be a good idea as well. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 13:47, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, go ahead. Are you going to make your own design, or are you going to use the OTL flag? Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 16:16, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Argentina (FTBW)
I will say that after the original occupation (say 1946-1950 or so) that it was a joint occupation, but Brazil managed to eventually force its own man in charge, and it became a dictatorship after that. After the fall of Brazil in 1978, a coup will put a Sorelist in power. I'm also thinking that the Sorelist/French allied nations in South America will manage to overthrow French dominance like Brazil did in 2004, and they ultimately form some semblance of Democracy, though with some heavy handed measures continuing. Mexico and Texas will NOT turn, but remain loyal Sorelist states. Thought I would mention that, as I do have a plan for them in the near future. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 03:21, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I meant a Brazilian supported Argentinean, my mistake. Sorry for nay confusion. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 04:38, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

SA Map
Alright, Katholico, I'm just about done the map, and now it's time for me to ask you the country names and some final touch ups and the map is yours :P.

P.S., I just had a quick question for you. I assume you know a little bit about the history of South America, and I was just wondering, were the Spanish colonies at the time were divided into smaller provinces? And at the time of revolution did those provinces unite and revolt or were boundaries just drawn up as some areas declared independence?

Regards, ChrisL123 00:07, January 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ohh, yeah I see what you're saying, thanks so much. Also, I just finished up the map and I just wanted to know what you wanted to call the file, and if you wanted any type of title like "South America" or something on the side. ChrisL123 03:33, January 12, 2012 (UTC)




 * Alright, here you are. Hope everything's right, and when you remember the Falkland Island situation I'll add them quickly to the map. Anything I got wrong I'll fix quickly. Any colour you might want changed I could do that also. Also, I couldn't exactly fit Argentina's name onto the continent so I apologize. If you want me to move it somewhere else I could fix it too. Other than that, enjoy! ChrisL123 03:54, January 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, I fixed it. I changed the colours and I put Paraguay in brown just so you don't get confused with the boundaries. If you want me to change it back that's fine. You'll also notice I added a little box with the Falklands on the bottom left hand corner, that's so the viewer can see which island belongs to which country because you wouldn't be able to tell which country had them from far away. If you want me to remove it that's fine :P. ChrisL123 01:41, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Argentina/Patagonia
Basically, after World War II, Brazil took over most of northern Argentina. Southern Argentina then became Patagonia. Hope this helps CheesyCheese 23:37, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil would keep Buenos Aires and the capital would be be movied to Neuquén, which is in Patagonia. CheesyCheese 22:10, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Chile/Del negros
My thinking is that they'd be independent roughly around the same time as OTL, if not a little earlier with the collapse of Spain at Napoleon's hands. I'll defer to you on Spanish names, so if its not a believable name I will change it!

KingSweden 22:18, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

South Pacific War
I really like the Occupation of Chiloé article, I'll look over the spelling soon. For the battle of the Chacao Channel, what ships do the Chilean navy use? - Mister Sheen 20:13, January 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, it seems like the Chilean navy is much bigger than the Santiagan navy (only 3-4 ships), so it would probably be a decisive victory for Chile. - Mister Sheen 17:36, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Electoral Maps
Hello again. Two more maps, eh? I would be happy to do them. It will take me a bit longer to do them. The first one was easy to do because the territories of the US were still based on the Adam-Onis Treaty lines (but not any more). So give me a bit, and I will note you when I am done. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:47, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

FTBW Replies
Alright, I'm getting too lazy to find the original messages and reply to them...

Anyway, for the Brazilian flag: I like the idea, but for me it does remind me too much of the US. I would think Brazil would want to do their best to show that they are their own country, and that they aren't dominated by either America or France. I'm not sure what to do about that, but I'm just stating my opinion.

As for the Portuguese colonies.... *facedesk*

I had completely forgot about them. But, yeah, I think they will become independent countries. Most likely will mean I will make them unstable African dictatorships like OTL. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 16:44, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know I'm going to start sounding really nit-picky, but I think it almost looks too French now...


 * I'm wondering what the flag would look like with simply blue and green on the background, then a gold diamond in the center with the coat of arms in the center of it? Similar, yet not the same as the OTL flag? Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 17:29, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, Katholico


You are the winner of the 2012 Stirling Award for Best Copyeditor. Congrats, and may next year's awards treat you just as kindly! Lordganon 08:44, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome, lol

Feel free to put it on your user page, fyi ;)

Lordganon 03:12, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

No purpose. Lordganon 05:00, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

NW Version of Althistory Wiki
Since KingSweden is not avilable, I thought I discuss to you about something.

I propose creating a page for a Napoleon's Wolrd version of the Althistory Wiki. It will also contain the alternate "bioraphies" of some of the people in this wiki.

What do you think? RandomWriterGuy 04:38, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ignore him, Kath. Lordganon 05:03, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Request Deletion of Page
I've created a new page about my Greater Korean Empire. I'm not too sure of how the policies work on this wikia, as I wish to delete my page, Greater Korean Empire. I was hoping you could do this for me, and thank you in advance. Myeongseong15 17:02, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Re: UCA Question
Thank you for that information. I actually will try to keep that information during editing, but after playing through the game a bit more (now up to 01/01/1916) and Peru has annexed the former Peru-Bolivian State, I'm going to change it back to the Republic of Peru (where-as I might make Chile into Chile-Bolivia)

I'm planning on manipulating events around a bit so that Chile will wage a war with Peru over Bolivia. I might do that while the USCA is involved in the Great War in Europe and Africa, since 4 of the 8 GP's are at war now in game (as of 1917)Razgriz 2K9 23:52, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

The very same. I'm using Victoria 2 to make the basis and once the game ends in 1936, I just make stuff up as I go along to fill in the next 65 years. I may consider making it an open timeline at that point. Razgriz 2K9 01:15, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

FTBW Timeline
Yeah, I could use help with that. I deleted that bit becasue it was getting too detailed: I was going to start fresh and try to redo it in a very straight forward and simple way. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 01:55, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can start right now! Just stick with the few things I mentioned in the main articles, then the timeline can be fleshed out as the rest of the story is. That was my plan, but I would really like help to try to do it. Maybe this might even be something that I should get a bunch of people to help with and I stay out of the way, and work on the filler's that I have yet to talk about. This will allow people who want to help me, read the story, and help give some new ideas and such into FTBW. I could really use that. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 05:15, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Start where you want to, though maybe with the first one here. If you want to simply focus on South American stuff, I won't stop you. If its not mentioned in the main article, feel free to add it or ask me, and I will do my best to answer any questions that may arise. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 05:37, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

1824 was the Hungarian Revolt. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 06:52, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I most likely will, though I have no objections if you simply want to make those yourself. After all, by now you know more about South American in FTBW than even I do. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 04:52, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Chile (NW)
Yes absolutely! That'd be great!

KingSweden 04:36, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

The Peninsular War would have ended around that time, yes. I'm not 100% but I envisioned Joseph Bonaparte's efforts to keep the Spanish colonies going as badly, if not worse, than Spain's efforts to keep Latin America following the OTL Napoleonic Wars. No, I suppose Chile should not be a federation. We should change it.

KingSweden 00:14, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Besa
Ah crud I forgot :P I was looking up OTL Presidents and Aylwin matched up with the time period! I could put Besa in as the 1994-1998 President or make him the transitionary President in 1989 and early 1990 after the fall of Communism?

KingSweden 05:45, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

I made Besa both! Transition president plus 1994-1998 (so he served two non-consecutive terms). On the Presidents page I put in the OTL political parties (for now) and we can change them later as you see fit!

KingSweden 06:00, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

I think the losses of Spain in the Peninsular War would have made them weaker in fighting in the New World. Napoleon would likely not have assaulted South America if the United States protested (a sort of Monroe Doctrine, if you will) to maintain the Spanish colonies, and depleted Spanish armies would have been defeated sooner, especially if demoralized by the idea of fighting for Joseph Bonaparte as opposed to a real Spanish king. I read that Chile became officially independent in 1818, so I would think this would have occurred earlier (maybe 1815 or 1816) in this TL because the Spanish would not have the same ability to fight.

KingSweden 06:14, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Backwards Black Plague
Hola, Kath! Hace timpo que no te veía, jeje.

Sí, es sobre eso; básicamente, tras ver la centésima línea de "la Peste asola el 99% de Europa" Me cansé y puse en mi lista de ideas eso. Básicamente tras la Peste en Europa ella vuelve a Asia en una forma mutada. Ya asustados, los europeos cortan el contacto con el exterior hasta que la mayoría de los orientales (60-90%) están muertos. Va a ser un tipo de 'mi ASB personal', xD. Saludos! Fed (talk) 04:39, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Electoral Maps (again)
I am completely sorry about that. I have been quite busy lately. I do promise to get them done soon. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 22:11, February 6, 2012 (UTC)




 * Here is the map for 1952 that I just finished. Hope it is all correct. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 22:22, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Presidents and Wars
It looks good! To answer your question I was thinking maybe Bolivia was never formed... it could have been part of Peru? And then Chile defeats Peru in a war and annexes parts of what is today Bolivia.

KingSweden 02:40, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think that would be a great motivation for Bolivar, and could explain why Gran Colombia survived. In that case, probably in the 1840's or 1850's, there is a war (for whatever reason) between Chile and Peru (we could call it the Andes War, Atacama War or Peruvian-Chilean War, probably the third), where Chile wins convincingly and the treat forces the cessation of the southern third or so of Alto Peru (since it seems like thats about how much Chile controls, based off of the map...). I'm afraid I don't know anything about 19th century South American history, especially Chile's, so since its your home country I'll let you handle things for the most part.

KingSweden 04:31, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good!

KingSweden 05:06, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a valid reason for war in the 19th century. I like it!

KingSweden 00:47, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Avenida does sound better. Well I figured eventually they would allow two terms instead of one, and I honestly just kind of picked Luco at random for the first guy to serve two terms.

KingSweden 16:12, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Patria y Liberdad seems perfect for the anti-communist paramilitary.

KingSweden 19:17, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'd guess around 1925. And there'd be naval combat, yes, and then Chile may/may not contribute some soldiers to the Allied effort, probably in Hawai'i or Oceania.

KingSweden 03:33, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking it'd be a right-wing government who is unpopular but which enjoys the full support of the military. So it'd be civilian, but the military would be what's keeping it in power, not the consent of the people.

KingSweden 04:08, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Arturo Larrain for sure, Eastman would only have been 31 or 32 (depending on when in the year he was born) in the 1960 election which is a bit young.

KingSweden 06:07, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Well like I've said, I know pretty much nothing about Chilean history except for what I read in Casa de Espiritus (House of the Spirits) four years ago, so it looks good to me haha. Though I have one question: the Radical Party... what does "Radical" mean in this case? Hard-left? Hard-right?

And what were your perspectives for post-communist Chile?

KingSweden 03:16, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

One thing - I noticed Montalva was in his late 30's when elected. Is this typical in Chilean politics? When Richard Van Dyke gets elected in America I treat it generally as a once-in-a-lifetime fluke that he was elected at the age of 39. Would it be wise, perhaps, to switch some of the Presidents around?

KingSweden 03:25, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense about the Radicals - the name just kind of threw me off haha. And I suppose in his late 30's Montalva would be alright as a President, I just wanted to point it out. It all works for me.

KingSweden 04:20, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

I like the parties how you describe them. That sounds good. Is Chile's Congress more Parliamentary, since it has 8 parties, with a lot of coalitions? And do all 8 parties usually front candidates for the Presidency?

KingSweden 05:38, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well I meant to ask more if it resembles the British Parliament or the US Congress, and the relationship of the President to the assembly? These two bodies are very different, I'm wondering which one Chile's government is more similar to.

And I just was wondering if in a Presidential election, all 8 parties have a candidate, or if some parties team up (in a coalition)

KingSweden 06:53, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ok sweet. I figured there'd be coalitions but I wasn't positive.

KingSweden 17:10, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me!

KingSweden 18:13, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Brazil
Since Pinochet does not come to power in this TL, I am thinking of using Pinochet's picture as the stand-in for Hugo Savala, dictator of Brazil. Their dictatorships occurred roughly the same time period and Pinochet always seems to be wearing military dress. I would just have to avoid using pictures of him wearing the Presidential Sash of Chile. What do you think of this idea?

KingSweden 07:00, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Good question. Anyone from the late 1980's would do, I suppose.

KingSweden 19:42, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely! Go ahead

KingSweden 23:35, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

I like them. I would add them on Alt Dest for now.

KingSweden 01:09, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Which Isabel Allende do you think for President - the author (my first assumption on seeing the name) or Salvador Allende's daughter?

KingSweden 01:48, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think it was an anon... But do you think that a former Communist dictator's family would really be elected in Chile? I would assume Salvador Allende was hated by the end of his rule, sort of like Pinochet.

KingSweden 02:01, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think its fine if we leave it at just those two. Make being a two-termer be something special. I like it how it is! I do have a question though. What was your idea for the differences between the Social Christian Conservatives, Traditionalist Conservatives and Christian Democrats after their split in the 1940's?

KingSweden 14:21, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

That about sums it up!

KingSweden 21:56, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

It looks good! What type of authorities? I definitely use InfoBox:Person templates for politicians and royals and so on, if that's what you mean.

KingSweden 00:14, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yes definitely! That is good.

KingSweden 01:30, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

If you don't think Chile should have one due to the OTL government, I am in agreement with you. The key for me was having Varas having seen American trains and introducing it to Chile, Minister of Interior is still a good spot for him. What is the Chilean history of railroads, btw?

KingSweden 07:19, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: World Cup
It looks really good! I'm going to try to get it to say 1984 if possible.

KingSweden 23:46, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Haha its fine, I'll try to see if I can adjust it.

KingSweden 15:35, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

hi
hi i was wondering if you had any ideas for map games, you see, i started a page where people post there proposals for map games, and since you edit a lot of the Britsh Waterloo pages, I thought you might have a few,

thanks,

DeanSims 19:29, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

A Darker Place
hi im playing axis vs allies reloaded as Nueva Granada, ive started a new alt history and would like some help, the alt is A Darker Place

heres the page The Next Map Game Idea The Next Map Game Idea DeanSims 17:07, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, how stupid of me! The Rio de Plata is a river.

I have noticed, on my trawling through this wiki, that people tend to write Althists about the country they come from. All my articles/map game countries are about Australia, and I live in Australia. And all your articles seem to be about Chile/ South America. Just a thought. Callumthered 07:52, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

In Napoleon's Australian Victory, Simon Bolivar died before he could liberate South America, so Jose de san Martin took up the mantle of El Liberator (hence Martinia). What would be a good alternative name for Sucre?Callumthered 00:28, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Avaro
I am playing. i'm just too occupied with Principia Moderni and other things out of the wiki to dedicate fully to it, so often i end up forgetting to post.and also, i'm usually out of ideas in what to post aside of "updates its military".--Collie Kaltenbrunner 18:50, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Picture
That's a great picture! I like it.

KingSweden 01:32, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Its a good pic we just need it to say 1984 instead of 1986.

KingSweden 02:06, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

That looks perfect. Do you know if there's a sporting event template?

KingSweden 20:23, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I think the second one is more in line with specifically the 1984 Cup, and could be used in other sporting competitions if we can get the coding right.

KingSweden 20:50, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

There are a few code issues we'll have to take a look at but for the most part it works. Page has been updated!

KingSweden 22:02, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

UCA Great War
That does bring up a Great Question. Unfortunately, my save file, as well as all of my backup saves got corrupted in working on this so the answer to that question, would not be acquired in game. Razgriz 2K9 18:34, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Good thing I still have my pictures. As of the last Screenshot I made (October 28, 1917), the Pro-British alliance was winning, but not by much. (More of a 4% in favor of their alliance) Razgriz 2K9 23:32, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

How I planned on ending the Great War was that it wouldn't be a total victory, and some nations from both sides of the conflict may see themselves in a more advantageous position at the end than they were in the beginning. (i.e. North Germany annexing the Southern German Kingdoms and forming the German Empire, Peru and Chile dividing Bolivia between the two, ecetera.) As for which alliance triumps over the end, I think the British alliance may very well triumph in this story.Razgriz 2K9 00:36, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know how I managed to fix my save file, but the game is back on, I'm gonna try to finally finish the game at 1935 like intended. Razgriz 2K9 18:48, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Patagonia
Kath, si quieres, tú trata de hacer el acuerdo con Prusia, pues se lo dejé a Chile y RdlP, y estoy ocupado con una guerra que probablemente va a ser muy implausible y parcial hacia DeanSims, jeje. Fed (talk) 18:22, March 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Tranquilo, Kath. Si, las colonias ganaron su independencia pero el rey de España es rey de los países con poco poder. Fed (talk) 22:02, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Binominalism
I was reading a little bit about how representation in the Chilean Congress/Parliament works and I think that it should be scrapped for Napoleon's World so that we get a past-the-post or simple majority system. Binominalism seems to have been a product of the Pinochet regime and since not only was he not in power, there was a Constituonal rewrite in the early 1990's. I think that if Chile were to emerge from a single-party dictatorship, it would prefer a more democratic system than one that guarantees two parties always have roughly equal representation. Just a thought I had.

KingSweden 06:25, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think the coalitions would absolutely still exist - in the National Congress. Each party could, presumably, still sponsor their own candidate, which is why there would be a runoff for the Presidency (or a constitutional provision for one).

KingSweden 06:59, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

VlaR
No, lo dejé. Tengo la mala costumbre de dejar los Map Game justo cuando se van a poner buenos :P. ¿Por qué preguntas? --Galaguerra1 18:34, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Invitation
Hola Katholico! Mi nombre es Ianian58, pardona mi Español, no estoy adjustado ha escribir Español en mi propia computadora. Te quiero preguntar si quieres entrar a mi "Map Game" "Napoleonic Europe" si estas interesado; aqui esta la direccion: Europe (Map Game) - Alternative History#The_World_Before_the_Game_Started Napoleonic Europe Ianian58 01:53, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

TSPTF
Don't know if you've noticed or not, Kath, but Brian's said on his talk page that he's going to be taking a break for a while. Coupled with other Brass members being rather.... inactive, we need some new blood.

If you haven't already guessed, I'd like you to be that new blood. Would you be interested in a promotion to the Brass, Kath?

Lordganon 21:59, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Done. You know the drill - head on over to the page to accept it. Lordganon 05:46, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Chile Elections (FTBW)
Yep, go ahead. I'm trying to start to do the American elections, but running in the stumbling block that the parties I created seem to have been given colors that are not what I wanted. See here:1944 US Presidential Election (French Trafalgar, British Waterloo)

If you have any idea how to change the colors (becuase I want the Socialist Party to be Red, and the Nationalist Party Blue, not Orange and Purple respectfully) it would be greatly appreciated. If not, I guess I will change the format of the articles. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 14:49, April 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I never was good at coding things, so that helps a lot. I might need help when I try to organize other elections, both American and otherwise, but until then, thanks ^^. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 20:07, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Consulta
Sí, jaja. Quería poner a un ultra-conservador en EEUU y después una Unión de Repúblicas Socialistas Latinoamericanas (URSOLA [ÚRSULA] en abreviación! xD) desde las protestas estudiantiles. Fed (talk) 03:53, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Brass in the TSPTF. In addition to your previous abilities as a Lieutenant, you can now adjust user rankings along with other behind-the-scenes administrative duties.

You have been conferred the title "Speaker of the Maailma lõppu," but feel free to change it as you desire.

Again, Congratulations.

Lordganon 09:24, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the Brass. We look forward to working with you! SouthWriter 21:10, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Roughly translated, it's Estonian for "ends of the earth." From one version of the origin story for name "Chile." Thought it fit you ^^ Lordganon 03:16, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

No Cross No Crown
Hi, Kath. I do not know if you have noticed, but Lordganon is in an edit war with me over a blog string that was up in the middle of 2010. LurkerLordB marked it for deletion, I took the template off explaining that blogs are not subject to deletion. I know that you do not read English very well, but could you read the deletion policy and the "No Cross, No Crown" guidelines? The second one is a bit more complicated, so let me know if it is unclear to you.

Basically, Lordganon deletes it and I "undelete" it. He will not stop at my word alone, but if the other Brass look into it, perhaps he will quit this action. If you think he is right, please let me know also. I do not want trouble, but I do not like injustice either. Thank you. SouthWriter 03:31, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

For the record, Kath, those places clearly state that the only things that it doesn't apply to is articles and timelines. South has no idea what he's talking about. Lordganon 03:35, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Alt Dest
You're one of the contributors on here I like the most, so you're always free to contribute to Alt Dest and really any Napoleon's World page you feel needs something different. The Kurt Cobain entry wasn't great but I see nothing wrong, and it's an open page.

I also started fleshing out some information about Argentina. Any advice/thoughts?

KingSweden 21:59, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Well Peronism to me (and maybe I'm wrong, South American political ideologies are certainly not my strong suit) seems like a left-wing ideology. The Liberal Democrats here would be more of a right-center or just center party, not completely conservative but more in favor of social and economic liberalism in the classical sense. Sense Peronism does not seem to embody that, I figured a centrist liberal party would make the perfect second-largest party in Argentina.

KingSweden 23:14, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. The politics of most other countries make much more sense than Argentina's do. I updated Lavin to reflect his new ambassadorship.KingSweden 23:49, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I suppose. I figured that the coalitions are more reflective of Congress than of the Presidency, and that the elections themselves become primaries in and of themselves (I believe this is called a jungle primary), with several candidates from each coalition. This could be a natural advantage for the left (as is seen in 1998) since there are so many parties on the right, but if Chile prefers center-right governments after the communist debacle, it's probably a wash.

OR maybe the 2002 and 2006 elections had coalition candidates, but the parties were unhappy and so returned to multiparty balloting for 2010?

KingSweden 05:33, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

That would make sense. What could happen is that most years, the other parties decide not to field a candidate and endorse a candidate from within their coalition, and in other years, there might be a candidate from another party, but after 1990 never more than two... kind of like how you described 1998. By the way, out of curiosity, what exactly does Gremialism mean? What do they believe? Are they pro-dictatorship, because that is what Wikipedia would seem to indicate.

KingSweden 06:09, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Fascist Parties Page
Thank you for fixing the images! :) Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:54, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me. I will try to remember that in the future. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:00, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Chile in Map Game
I was wondering if you would like to join my new map game. Chile is still open! Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 19:15, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Bolivia
'''Recently, Bolivia asked to join the Confederation of Latin America. It demanded access to the sea at Chile's expense and we know you do not want that. But what if we added a condition to their application? It would say :'' The Confederation of Latin America accepts Bolivia into the Union and grants their request for access to the sea, gaining that land from Chile. HOwever, if they ever leave/ secede from the Confederation, Bolivia must return the land given.'

'''Let me know what you think! AwesomePeruvian 22:26, April 29, 2012 (UTC)'''

'''You made a good point. We'll deal with the Bolivian Issue after the war.'''

RE;
Its the River of Defeat, I got the two mixed up. Enclavehunter 01:29, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Colombia Changes
Hola. Great to hear from you again as well. I have been okay.

I hope I haven't disappointed you, but yes, I have decided to get rid of Gran Colombia and Central America from the timeline. I took a second look at the idea of a Gran Colombia, and I believe there isn't enough time for it to have worked in TTL. Plus the fact that I know very little about the history of Colombia in general, I couldn't figure out a proper way to divide the country, and I never took into account the fact that this Colombia would become a major rival to the US, which would require me to rewrite the timeline to incorporate this. For instance, I had no idea that OTL Colombia in the 1850s was just as interested in Cuba as the US was. So, I just decided to drop the idea from the timeline. After I do more research on the history of Colombia, maybe I will bring my interpretation of Gran Colombia in a new timeline. With GC gone, I also decided to get rid of Central America, but this is due more to my interest of these nations being states of Mexico.

I hope that answers your question. Talk later. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:27, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just knew you were going to ask me about Chile. XD But unfortunately, since there is no Gran Colombia, there is no Colombian-backed Peru-Bolivia, no reason for Chile not to go to war, and enough time for Argentina to gain most of Patagonia. So for now, South America will look like OTL. However (since I know very little about South American history), I am open to any idea that can come out that is directly connected to the Russian's having a bigger presence in North America. If you don't mind me asking... any ideas? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:39, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Forgive me for trying to push an idea out of you (I feel so ashamed) T_T

But for the record, Russia isn't going to expand as far as it has. As far as Russia's influence in South America, might be increased commerce. I doubt the US would allow Russian expansion (especially after the Monroe Doctrine). Before I forget to mention, I have already begun the process of having Panama be annexed into the US, and it is now a state (TTL's Alaska, lol). But aside from angering the British, I don't think the US would go any further south.

The Russo-Mexican alliance is really only an alliance, not so much a political power base. I doubt it would influence the world, aside from causing the US to look elsewhere to expand.

Not that this could really expand, but one think I can't find is how the Russian Empire worked diplomatically with the South American nations. All I can find is that the nations of SA established relations with the USSR. Could Russia have been neutral and unhelpful to SA in OTL? This might be an interesting place to look at, the Empire working closer with SA. I will have to look into this later. TTFN --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:46, May 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * There may be some good possibilities, but all in good time. Curious about Panama, eh? How I see it: when Theodore Roosevelt moves to create a canal on the isthmus, the situation would turn since the US has no Pacific access (excluding Cape Horn). The would move towards annexing the entire isthmus (rather than a canal zone). It would be somewhat a kin to OTL Philippines, where the region fights for independence, but only gets annexed to another power. Panama would remain a territory until the 1950s, when it becomes a state (like OTL Alaska). --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:43, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

I do remember you writing me a question a while ago. I guess I lost track of time and completely forgot. Please forgive me. What was your question, I will be happy give as much help as I can. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:54, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not 100% sure, but I believe I already gave my opinion on this timeline. But I could be wrong, and I am always happy to answer questions. If Reagan is elected in 1976, than he would likely win a second term in 1980. The only thing that comes to the top of my head is the in Iran. While I am not too sure what Reagan would have done differently, his presidency may look at loosing the once pro-American country as a greater loss. He may even spread a belief that the Soviets may attempt to take over the country (as they would with Afghanistan later in 1979). The US may take a direct action to prevent the rise of the anti-American regime, and bring the Shah back to power. If this happened, there would be no Iran-Iraq war (which could lead to either no invasion of Kuwait, or an earlier act of aggression on Saddam's part). I would really suggest reading into this before getting ideas, as this is only an idea of mine. Other than this, I don't believe I have anything else. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:47, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ironically, the Cuba idea I can answer very easily. On, hundreds of Cubans protested in Havana for an end to the Castro dictatorship. The protest was crushed early on, but I believe it could be easy for it to work in favor of the protesters under the right circumstances. I have even incorporated this idea into my New Union timeline. I believe this is the best place to start. Hope this helps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:48, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

South America in No Napoleon
Hey, Katholico, long time no talk! How've you been?

I just needed to ask this. I've adopted No Napoleon a while ago, a timeline where Napoleon dies just before the end of the, but I've been having problems with the South American part of the timeline. I'm sure as you know, without Napoleon having Spain and Portugal, the South American colonies wouldn't have declared independence right away. I think you mentioned before that most timelines have them be independent by the 1820s or so.

Considering I have almost no knowledge of South American history (I'm Canadian :P), I've had trouble coming up with the future of the continent. What I originally had in mind was that the Viceroyalties would declare independence, but really, I don't know why the South American ones wouldn't just unite altogether, similar to the United States? Do you mind shedding some light on this? It'd be much appreciated. Thanks! ChrisL123 23:29, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Nuclear Weapons
You are correct - Argentina should exclusively be cancelled nuclear weapons.

I figured Chile might be "suspected" in that intelligence on its program is unclear and it might still be outside of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which may have elevated suspicions that it still has weapons, but nobody knows for sure.

KingSweden 21:58, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ooooh interesting. Maybe something from the Pinochet era.

KingSweden 05:10, May 24, 2012 (UTC)