User talk:Mr.Xeight

WEW
You were talking about moving our history stuff here?Airiph-althist 03:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Nvm, we hve our own private website. All of people here are helping us fine tune what we've got on groups.yahoo.com/ They all worked on how to make the CSA happen and are working on how the Byzantine Empire was able to survive on the site. Mr.Xeight 03:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I found your mapAiriph-althist 03:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That one's old. I'm making one now. China's completely different. I don't want to spoil the surprise. Lot more African free states too. Mr.Xeight 03:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

AS long as my Cape towns stay EXACTLY the sameAiriph-althist 03:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC) I told you, IT'S BIGGER. My eyes are going I can't get it the same so I just expanded it. Mr.Xeight 03:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Then you make it close Ill edit itAiriph-althist 03:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Small pages
What about the small pages you started, like Japanese Empire? --Max Sinister 13:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * What about them?--Mr.Xeight 18:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, they don't have anything of content besides some (admittedly nice) flags. Why don't you add some text to it, and a timeline? Are they supposed to exist in the same world?--Max Sinister 10:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * BTW - your TL The Commonwealth of Nations is pretty short either. If you are still interested in writing this AltHist you are given four weeks time to let us know and to start writing on, otherwise it will be deleted.--Max Sinister 11:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Well I've got too much on my plate, atm :( So for now I think it would be better if I save the flags to one page (the Byzantine's page isn't too short is it?) and come back in the future. Sorry. Hope to be back soon. Mr.Xeight 01:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

New America
Eastern America

Quebec
how loyal it stays depend largely on what happen in France itself. *Here*, many people were horrified when they learned that the king had been executed leading me to believe that they would have probably fought against the republicans had they had not been conquered.Priests, who used to hold a lot of power in the province used to say that the motherland was royalist France not the republican one. Its hard to say if they would have won thought, on one hand the government of France would have had to send lots of troops to quell the insurgency and great-britain might have taken this as an excuse to re-invade Canada. On the other hand you didn't have that many people inhabiting the colony.

If however the government had stayed royalist, you probably would have a pretty loyal province.--Marcpasquin 13:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

heh heh... I guess "assasinators" isn't very good grammar eh? XDUnforgiveable 01:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

EtP: Byzantines
I think I may have found their key to survival in EtP, and it comes from a much stronger Muslim Spain. The Emirate of conquers southern France sometime in the 1100s. The massive European effort to unseat the Muslims in France would mean a totally different course for the Crusades, and the bizarre Constantinople adventure of the 1200s would likely not have happened. That does still leave the Ottomans to contend with farther down the road, but I think EtP will have a strong vibrant East Rome well into the 1400s, at least. Benkarnell 20:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they could survive. If the war was to fan the hatreds of Christians & Muslims even more, that would mean aggression on both sides. Now who would have more soldiers fort their faction, the Middle East, or all of Orthodox & Catholic forces working seperately but for the same goal of the destruction of the Ottomans & Islam. If it so bad, Israel itself could be more influenced by Europe. Mr.Xeight 23:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Huh, you're right about the aggression. Certainly in the new Crusader kingdoms of France: sort of a "Gallic Inquisition" in the 1200s.  I'll have to pursue that Crusade in more detail before I can know how the later ones turn out.  But I definitely like the idea of no Fourth Crusade to Constantinople.  Assuming the Ottomans would still come to power later, the Byzantines would at least still be united, and Greece wouldn't be peppered with miniature despotates and Italian colonies.  I don't think that the crusade in France would necessarily lead to more fanaticism among the Greeks or Turks, though - but probably among the French Christians and Spanish Muslims.  Benkarnell 02:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

But one key factor in the Spanish Inquisition (we're reading The Pit and the Pendulum for Halloween tomorrow so I found out today) is the Spanish saw what happened to Greece and thought along the lines that "These guys are Muslims & Jewish too. That means they're Ottomans and working with them!". Of course there were dozens of other factors, just curious. Of course if we play this very right, could Greece evolve into (albet) (very) small colonial empire in the 1800s? Mr.Xeight 23:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oy, I'm still sooo far from that point :D. All I can say is that EtP will have next to nothing that resembles OTL colonialism.  The Norse are colonizing America in earnest from 1100, but they mainly establish settlements and, later, kingdoms that are independent... it is the 1100s, after all.  German merchants will follow in the later medieval era, and by then Arab merchants of Andalusia might be sailing around as well, I don't really know.  So the colony building going on is more about trade than anything else, and it's not really controlled by anybody.  Medieval Greece/Byzantium was a fairly important exporter even in OTL when the empire was falling apart, so you can bet that a lot of Greek trade goods made it to America.  But I don't believe they were heavily into sailing at that point, were they?


 * After c. 1500 I don't even want to speculate, since by then _everything_ will be so totally different. Benkarnell 02:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * [EDIT]: And I didn't know that about the Inquisition, so I suppose Crusader Gallia couldn't be _exactly_ like Inquisition Spain. And I know that medieval southern France was OTL a very complicated place, religion-wise.  There were a couple of major monastic movements, plus the Cathars (I don't even actuallly know what they believed yet), plus the Waldensians (ditto).  Adding a Muslim conquest and a full-blown Crusade to that mix... look out, I guess.  Benkarnell 04:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I've added a little section at Eleventh Century (Ethelred the Pious). I don't think that anything can happen to change the Battle of Manzikert (1071 is too early for any changes to drift that way). But events in France will definitely change the course of the Crusades, so we won't have Venetians taking the Empire over. Benkarnell 21:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)



Re:German
I speak German... slowly and painfully, but I can do it online OK. Do you need a hand with something? Benkarnell 05:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Have you ever seen one of those signs that tell you're entering the borders of like a city, state, nation etc. I was wondering how would you say "Welcome to the Byzantine Empire" in German? Mr.Xeight 05:28, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Most German signs just say the name of the place you're entering: "Bundesrepublik Deutschland", "Freistaat Bayern", "Berlin", etc. "Now entering Greece" would probably be "Sie treten in das Byzantinisches (or Griechisches) Reich".  "Welcome" would be "Wilkommen in das Byzantinisches/Griechisches Reich".  Benkarnell 17:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

So really the sign would just be Byzantinisches Reich. Thanks! What's in-store for the German Empire in EtP? Mr.Xeight 18:46, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The Gallic Crusade (in southern France, mid-to-late-1100s) is currently just some doodled maps. But if all goes the way I'm imagining, medieval France disintegrates, with the eastern parts joining the Holy Roman Empire.  That would make "Germany" even more unweildy.  So who knows?  Benkarnell 19:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)