Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-10975360-20130619171432/@comment-4621372-20130625175922

Sameva555 wrote: A) they wouldnt, until pearl harbour fdr was about the only american politician who was prepared to go to war, he had a isolationise (democrats and republicans) congress that wouldnt allow him to declare war without a navy

B) that is a valid point, but in my POD neville chamberlain, or lord halifax is pm, and they were prepared to negotiate with the germans

C) if britain was out of the war the nazis would have won, america could not have won a european war and pacific war alone, the USSR could never truely be defeated but it could be pushed back to the urals

without the british backed raid on telemark the nazis could have had a bomb by autumn 1945

the germans could have won, if you dispute that then you really sholdnt be on an ALTERNATIVE HISTORY WIKIA! Really?

Let's start;

A) Before America entered the war they were already sending vast amounts of aid to Germany and Britain. And thousands of American volunteers had already gone over. The American Congress were isolationist, not stupid. They didn't want a Nazi world at all.

B) Point is, UK COULD NOT have been invaded. Chamberlain was forced to resign after Poland and Halifax would have supported Eden and Churchill after any German attempt at invasion. Besides which, Even without the German attempt, and the subsequent peace with Britain, it's not like they'd have been all chummy after that- especially not with Churchill as the Minister of Defense and Eden as First Sea Lord or Minister of Navy, as they would have been placed, assuming Halifax was not influenced by Alien Space Bats.

C) Assuming Britain did leave the war, here's what would happen;

Hitler would move all his troops out East on to the Russin Front. The Russian would have pulled back, taking a scorched earth policy. Ok, they'd have been pushed back to the Urals.

Flash forward to December. The Germans have no food, are freezing, and thanks to bad weather they now have no supply lines, and NOW the Empire starikes back and destroys the German army.

No one has ever taken and held Moscow and area from the West, and some of the finest military minds have tried. Remember Napoleon? Marched in with 350,000 troops, marched out with 15,000.

The Germans march in with 5-10 million troops... they'll be lucky to salvage half a million. It will be the greatest military disaster in the history of the world. The military of Germany will have been smashed, and unlike Russia they don't have the population to replace it.

And NOW the Americans and Brits strike. War over, 1943.

D) The German scientists so badly misrepresented the project to their superiors that they would have failed to get the bomb if the Americans had handed over their supplies of uranium. They had the lowest possible priority and were 3 years behind the Americans and Brits. They didn't get a reactor critical unitl 1945- the Manhattan project were doing it back in early 1942. And the main reason for that was that the idiots accidentally blew up their 'Uran-Maschine.' Totally untrue.

E) Alternate History means it could have happened. Well, this could have too. If Alien Space Bats decided they liked Hitler. But not really any other way. Jazon is right.