Talk:Alaska (1983: Doomsday)

Name
This article should be renamed to prevent confusion with the. What about, as opposed to ? — Hellerick 16:49, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you convinced me earlier that most people probably use the directions. But why not east/west?  I know it's slightly more accurate from a technical sense, but "east/south" is just very counterintuitive.  Benkarnell 17:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * West and South, 'cause it's more strange :)
 * — Hellerick [[Image:Flag of Divnogorsk.svg|20px]] 17:33, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * How about we just use the nation's official name: ? Mitro 18:47, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it's okay I guess. It's just I would prefer to stick to short/casual names whenever it's possible. — Hellerick [[Image:Flag of Divnogorsk.svg|20px]] 19:22, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Siberian Alaska
there is no mention of Siberian Alsaka on the page. --HAD 09:45, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like it does not exist anymore. — Hellerick [[Image:Flag of Divnogorsk.svg|20px]] 11:22, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no mention of Siberian Alaska on the page because it was never added. Also Siberia Alaska doesn't technicaly not exist anymore.  It is still a proposal with discussion happening on the main talk page.  Mitro 16:00, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Governor Gene Therriault?
I was wondering why -- or how -- former state senator Therriault was chosen as the present governor of Alaska. Is the creator of this universe allowing personal preferences to over ride probability? Minority leader Therriault apparently lost in the last elections. I was thinking that Sara Palin may have been in Alaska in 1983, but that September she was in Idaho after having attended Hawaii Pacific where she was in 1982. I guess that means that she would have been cut off from Alaska in September of 1983. It appears that Sarah's predecessor had been a US senator in 1983, and therefor a sure casualty when Washington was hit.

The makeup of some of these time lines can get quite confusing, for sure. Based on the world of this scenario, though, it appears that some creative thinking is being done by some folk in the South Pacific (which probably would have been less affected by the devastation in the North Hemisphere.

Overall, though, this seems to be a great scenario (though a full volley back-and-forth probably could not have happened EVEN with the "cowboy" Reagan as president). Keep up the good work. I plan on contributing once I figure out the amount of damage that would have been done -- and where.--SouthWriter 21:41, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm responding rather late to this! I totally missed this one.  I checked to see who added Therriault's name, and found that it was... me!  In my edit comment I said that it was a "placeholder" name, but I do remember my thinking.  I looked through the most prominent Alaska politicians and found that a good many of them, like you say, were out of the state at the time of the war.  As I looked for names, I wanted to find someone from an inland town like Fairbanks, since the attacks presumably reduced the importance of Juneau and Anchorage.  Since then, of course, we've learned that Juneau was not a target, whilst Fairbanks was... so depending on Therriault's whereabouts at the time, he may be far too dead to be Governor.
 * I also (as you imply) wanted someone more left-leaning; this was simply because I had just recently written about right-leaning leaders in Hawaii, Samoa, and Costa Rica, and wanted some balance. Things like political landscape, keep in mind, are going to change drastically following an apocalyptic event, as a whole new set of issues comes into play; I have normally avoided words like "conservative" and "liberal" when talking about hard-hit areas like the US because they seem almost meaningless in such different circumstances.  And furthermore Alaskan politics have probably been influenced by the political spectrum of the ANZC (the parent country, of sorts), which has a 3 major parties: Conservative (also known as "Liberal"!), Labour (social-democracy), and Green.  Chances are this setup has at least some influence in Alaska.  And, since Alaska is more out on its own (it's legally an independent country), it is highly unlikely that one party would be able to dominate it so thoroughly: there would emerge a new center, and a new back-and-forth between or among the different parties that now take turns in government.
 * Anyway, it is true that Therriault is probably not the Governor, but I'd argue that it's not for the reasons you imply. I admit, however, that there's no logical reason for Alaska to have a left-wing governor just because Hawaii has a right-winger.  That was me seeking some balance as a creator rather than looking at the "facts on the ground".  But I contend that it's a fairly random decision, anyhow: whatever parties there are are probably swinging back and forth all the time.
 * On the final hand (and I'm sorry about the long-winded response), It will be difficult to change Therriault at this point since his name has appeared in various news items, etc. At this point, it would be better to  find some way for him to have survived.  If that truly is unbelievable, we'll just have to root him out, I guess.  Benkarnell 21:55, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Autonomous Alaskaans
So now if Sarah Palin gets teleported to Alaska to still get elected governor, she'll really be able to see Russia (or siberia) from her front porch. Mean Mr Mustard 21:09, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm. For the third time (I think) since I wrote it last night, I'm going to mention "No Cross, No Crown".  I know you're just making a joke, but be careful.  And you know that Palin never actually said "I can see Russia from my house".  That was just a (particularly funny) line from Tina Fey.  Palin said you could see Russia from part of Alaska.


 * Speaking of, though, I am surprised that given Palin's prominence she hasn't come up in any of our discussion on Alaska. Wasilla's really close to Anchorage, which was a target, but it's (I think) far enough to survive the initial blast, and there's certainly room to escape the radiation - it's Alaska!  Putting her in Soviet Alaska could be interesting indeed... but I suspect it's not likely.  What might her role be in the Free State? Nevermind, I hadn't read the section above this one.  Nice research, SW.  Benkarnell 21:32, February 11, 2010 (UTC)