Talk:Canada (Vegetarian World)

Again, I just want to say that I love your new Canada article. It also gave me a lot to think about. Still, I did come up with a lot of possibilities, so please feel free to take your time to respond. Also, I hope you don’t mind me posting all of these suggestions.

Now, my favorite part would have to be your Canadian Confederation of States if simply because it makes so much sense in the context of Vegetarian World’s Canada.

IIRC, you had previously said that many of the events in Vegetarian World were identical to show the parallels between Vegetarian World and the OTL. Now, based on the description about Russian decolonization/history, there is presumably no formation of the Commonwealth of Independent States. Instead, I believe that VW’s Canada is the perfect candidate for VG’s version of the breakup of the Soviet Union and the formation of the Commonwealth of Independent States (or Commonwealth of Canadian States as the case might be. )

Here’s a hypothetical non-canon scenario for Vegetarian World to best demonstrate the point:

Instead of taking Canada from the French after the French and Indian War/Seven years War, the English offer to buy French Canada as a sign of friendship, which the French happily agree to. Over the next few decades, the lands of Ontario, Quebec, etc. remain under direct colonial rule until the British form the Dominion of Canada after giving up Canadian Claims to Sioux and Anishinaabe lands. Eventually, Canada achieves independence in 1931. Still, both the Quebec and the Aboriginals of Canada chaff under the perceived dominance of Anglo-Canadians.

Now in OTL, Quebec voted around 1979/1980 on whether it should gain independence or not. In Vegetarian World, Quebec voted yes instead, and officially gained independence on the 50th anniversary of the Statute of Westminster in 1981. Besides possibly being the start of the Modern Renaissance in Northern Pemhakamik, it also starts debates among the Crees, Athabaskans, etc., over independence that last the entire 80s. Eventually, the three nations of Cree, Athabaska, and Nunavut succeed from Canada between 1989 and 1991 (much like the Baltic nations succeeded from the Soviet Union). Finally due to disputes over federal property, international boundaries, trade, the environment, etc., Canada, Quebec, and the three Aboriginal nations come together to form the C.C.S. on December 25th, 1991.

The best part of the above Scenario is that it easily explains away the oddness of the Cree and Canadian borders. After all, we could assume that during the debates of the 80s Cree leaders thought that they would be strongest as a single nation and chose to keep their geographically divided lands under one federal government. Likewise, Canada perhaps doesn’t dissolve further due to geographic isolation due to the open border policy of the C.C.S., allowing Canadians to cross international borders without hassle.

On another note, what exactly is the status of Greenland or Wendat? I suppose they both could be full members of the C.C.S. depending on the history you have set for them.

In any case, what do you think about that scenario? If you like it, I can discuss some other ideas I came up with for the C.C.S.