User talk:Owen1983

Welcome to Doomsday, Owen! It sounds like you have ideas for France: the 6th Republic. Are you planning on developing them farther? Is this a matter of the Southern Territories changing their name, or has some new community in metropolitan France emerged from the devastation? Benkarnell 22:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I plan to develop this and considering French troops were stationed in africa countries such as Algeria survived and France survived notably becuse President Miterand signed a Non agression pact with the USSR in 1982 Owen1983 9 March 24:42 GMT


 * OK, sounds reasonable. A couple of things:
 * (1) Please read the Editorial guidelines for the 1983 project. Most important among them is to not override any previous work.
 * (2) Please leave a comment at Talk:1983: Doomsday to discuss the new country.
 * (3) Based on your edit at World Country Profiles (1983: Doomsday), it looks almost as though you're planning to change what's previously been written about France's overseas departements. Keep in mind that this material is already an accepted part of the timeline and shouldn't be changed without discussing it first.  A number of other pages are written based on what's already been established about French Polynesia and Guyana.
 * (4) I'm not sure about the non-agression pact. Was that real?  If it wasn't, it shouldn't be added, since it represents another POD and would affect other events leading up to the 1983 war.  It's certainly possible that a survivor government signed such a pact with a Soviet bloc state after the war.  We've never really sorted out Corsica, for example, or any mainland bits of France that could have survived.

I suggest discussing your plans with the group before adding too much. As the group grows, keeping it all organized gets harder but more important. The worst thing would be to put a ton of work into something that ends up getting deleted or ignored because it goes against earlier work. Benkarnell 03:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

New TL
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_(Evil_Empire) Comments and suggestions appreciated MC Prank 17:44, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

what we need is asuggestion page
rhis is were editors can suggest topics were users can vote yes or no this woul avoid editorial conflict Owen1983 10 March 12:53PM GMT


 * Maybe. Talk:1983: Doomsday serves that purpose, more or less.  Benkarnell 15:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Just to point out...
Since I'm not sure if you will see my comments on the Talk:Timeline (1983: Doomsday), I would just like to point out that your to do list has been done: The message you responded to was over a year old, be more careful next time when reading a talk page. Mitro 15:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Overview Timeline (1983: Doomsday)
 * India (1983: Doomsday)
 * World Country Profiles (1983: Doomsday)
 * South American Confederation (1983: Doomsday)

Virginian Empire
Since I am not the author of the article and I specifically said on said article's talk page that I am not interested on working on it, I am not sure why you are informing me about this. That being said, good luck with whatever it is you are planning to do with the article but do not contact me about it. Mitro 20:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Naming Rules
Owen -- remember that you need to have the name of the timeline in parenthesis after any page you create. Thus, LoN World Factbook needed to have (1983: Doomsday) after it. I have corrected the error. Please take care that it doesn't happen in the future.

Thanks. Louisiannan 21:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

USSR Victorious
There is no way JFK can succeed McArthur after losing the election to him a year before. That is not how American government works. McArthur's VP would succeed him and I highly doubt his VP would be his opponent in the last election. Mitro 15:37, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for this info i will change it


 * You seem to be ingnoring your talk page so I will say this again. There is no way JFK could succeed McArthur.  JFK was not his VP.  JFK ran against him in the last election and lost.  If McArthur resigned he would be replaced by his VP, which would not be JFK.  That is how the American system of succession works.  If President Obama resigned today he would not be replaced by his opponent McCain, he would be replaced by his VP Biden.
 * Please stop adding those edits about JFK succeeding McCarthur if he resigns. It is completely implausible.  Mitro 15:40, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be blunt but your recent edit was ridiculous. McArthur was elected in 1960, the year the OTL US had a presidential election. THE US WOULD NOT HAVE ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ONE A YEAR LATER! Please do some research before making edits to this page. If you continue to make such unconstructive edits to that article I will take necessary actions. Mitro 16:03, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

thanks Mitro --Owen1983 19:21, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Explain
Why do you keep editing Mancunia? It's obsolete which basically means that we're too kind to throw it away, ie deleting it. I'm not saying its not allowed, but that your work now has no pertinence to the TL. Sorry, Mr.Xeight 23:23, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

as Manchester was nuked 26 years ago I have thaught that towns which were apart of tho old county of greater Manchester may have survived and faced with hardship may have joined other towns its logicoal thet would take Manchesters historic name--Owen1983 23:47, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * "Greater Manchuria" would not survive. They would be too close to the blast radius that they would be extensively damaged and be abandoned.  The populace would either die, find their way to an Ireland/CA refugee camp or the few lucky ones would catch a boat to New Britain.  Mitro 00:08, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Owen, a consensus has already been made. If you'd like to make a spinoff in which a "Greater Mancunia" is a flourishing nation, then I personally see no problem; however, if you continue to edit the obsolete page we have on Manchester, you are simply wasting your time. Mr.Xeight 00:33, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed
I will make a spinoff nation thanks Mr.Xeight --Owen1983 12:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Making storyline decisions on articles you didn't create
Owen, I'm undoing your announcement on the WCRB headlines page re: Portland. (I'll roll with it, but my way). If you want to make changes like that on pages that I or anyone else created, that you didn't create or have a say in, please discuss it first on the talk page for that article.--BrianD 15:07, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Edits
Editing articles with the sole purpose of adding spelling errors to them is by no means constructive and neither were your edits to the Guyana and Argentina articles (with the latter I'm even inclined to call it vandalism). Could you please refrain from such edits in the future? --Karsten&#160;vK (talk) 19:45, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Be fair kirsten English is not my First Language--Owen1983 21:21, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Can somone help me
I have been blocked fo no reason

YOU were blocked for severel reasons
1 vandelism 2 inserting nonsence into pages Masquerading as another user you should think yourself lucky that you were blocked for a month and not a year or or life what i suggest you do is learn from your mistakes and apply them to become a better person --Chip2008 02:04, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thankyou--Owen1983 02:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you actually mean to impersonate XiReney? Benkarnell 03:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

i sent him a mesage but I forgot to sign my name
so i went back to correct my mistake but Kirsten thaght I was inpersonatein hime but i wasnt and she said i have been making unproductive edits becus i mad a few spelling mistake and I have been blocked and i didnt do anything --Owen1983 11:52, November 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Firstly spelling errors had absolutely nothing to do with the block, which was in fact issued for the following reasons:
 * Messing up the formatting of the Falkland Islands article.
 * Removing the proposal tag from the Guyana article which, if you had bothered to read the discussion on which, was in no position to be canonised.
 * Vandalising the Argentina article by tagging this long standing canon article with the obsolete template.
 * Pointlessly inserting the stub template on several pages that already had the stub template on them.
 * More seriously: Continuing with this after having been asked to cease this activity.
 * I think all of this together would have only lead to a second warning, or at worst, a one day block. It is the perceived impersonation shown here that formed the bulk of the reasoning behind the block. Since I now suppose this interpretation was an error on my behalf, the one day worst-case-scenario has passed, and Ben himself has objected to the block, I will lift the block after posting this message. My apologies for the erroneous judgement and once again a request to please don't make edits of the kind listed in the summary above any-more. --Karsten&#160;vK (talk) 12:44, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

THANKS KIRSTEN --Owen1983 19:06, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Iowa
Iowa was not deleted: Republic of Iowa (1983: Doomsday)

You probably just spelled it wrong. Mitro 05:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

thanks Mat
later buddy

Concerning Recent Events
I recommend next time Owen that you do not get involved in situations like these. Due to your ignorance of the situation you caused issues that could have been avoided. Next time just contact an admin like myself and leave it at that. It was not necessary for you to start telling editors what to do or make statements about them that were untrue.

And once again please don't call me "Mat." I have never asked anyone to call me that. I would appreciate if you would refer to me as "Mitro." Mitro 23:01, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

thanks mitro --Owen1983 01:04, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Final Warning
Owen, I investigated your report of vandalism. First off the anon did not remove an image from as you reported. What he did was add a link to a new article he was proposing, and you removed it for no reason and then lied about your reason. This is your last warning Owen, do something like this again and I will block you from editing for 3 days. Mitro 22:01, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

wrong OFL
Owen, why did you create this article, especially given that it totally contradicted what was already in the sports by country and in the ANZC articles? Talk pages are the place to discuss proposals like this. And, it showed a total disregard for not only what I did in the ANZC and the sports by country pages, but also for the proposal Jnjaycpa is working on. --BrianD 15:44, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

I thaught it was Australian not American --Owen1983 18:16, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Even so, it was clearly listed as an American football league in the item, and there is already a soccer league in the ANZC in this timeline, the A-League. --BrianD 19:10, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Soviet defeat
Soviet defeat is already a featured ATL, did you not see the big template on top of the portal page? Mitro 02:10, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Redoing the infobox
I changed the title of my article and deleted the infobox you put in. Would you be able to put the infobox back in???

Verence71 10:15, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

sure

Unity League
Why did you remake a page on the Unity League, but then talk about Madagascar and the Comoros Islands? Mr.Xeight 17:33, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Madagascer and a small part of madagascer consist of the UL after DD madagascer escaped the trauma at griped africa but they had a problem of pirate raids from the mainland so the UL came about BTW I read your post about the UL membersip of the Lon I want to say thanks for taking an interest in my article and I hope you have a great new year --Owen1983 13:49, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Owen, the comment made by Mr. X was written on June 4, 2009, did you not see the date? Then the Unity League was a unified government of Greece and Turkey.  That version of the UL was rejected from the 1983: Doomsday canon and later deleted upon request by Mr. X.  Furthermore there already is an article on Madagascar: Madagascar (1983: Doomsday).  It is relatively empty but it still exists.  Now, however, you have resurrected a deleted page and have used it to describe a nation that already has an article in the TL.  Mitro 13:59, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

TSPTF
No actually it won't, and I request you stay out of it, regardless of how you consider your relationship to the admins of this wiki. I asked Louis for his opinion, not you. Mitro 16:47, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Louis gave you an answer and i only posted a fallow up the reason I did is i viewed this situation as a delicate matter which need as much input as possible if you request that I stay out of this thats ok but not for this situation becise any rash decisions will damage the credibility of the TSPTF  --Owen1983 17:22, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Owen, please. Even Louis has asked you to stay out of it.  We are handling this situation, we do not need your input.  Mitro 17:31, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

After discussion among the administrators, we have decided to decline your application to join the TSPTF. We currently have enough members to patrol the wiki and are not interested in expanding at the moment. We appreciate your efforts in helping fight vandalism and you are welcome to try again later. Mitro 17:16, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Really?
Owen, did you really create the Soviet defeat Alternate-History? From the history of the page it says Buk5 created it. Mr.Xeight 00:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 90% of his "articles written or contributed to" don't have any edits from him or if they do they were undone immediately after as well.--Oerwinde 09:57, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I didn't want to be accusatory and come out and say it, but that is 100% stealing. Owen, please delete your contributions/creations page before I do it for you. Mr.Xeight 04:17, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

LCP
I don't know if you've heard of the Wikination Lovia, but we are currently being ruled by a despot and need to recruit members to our party (Communist) in order to topple him. It would be great if you took part. Otherwise, you can help simply by adding your name to the list of members. Thank you! LCP

You can also visit our Germanian Empire here: Link--Scanderson 20:58, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Graduating articles
Owen, the process for graduating articles is clearly marked in the. I have noticed that recently you have been ignoring it and graduating articles without following the guidelines. While anyone can graduate an article, we have specific procedures in place to catch contradictory or implausible content. Since you have been warned by me and other editors to refrain from graduating articles without following the guidelines, this will be considered your last warning. If you do it again I will block you from editing for three days. If you have any questions, feel free to message me. Mitro 16:03, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

LCP
I am very glad you have decided to join the LCP, the Lovian Communist Party, on Wikination (Lovia). We can always use new members. Only by a large ammount of followers will we able to secure our position in the government and become both a large aswell as an influential political party. Godspeed, comrade Owen! ;) Dr. Magnus 16:41, January 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would like you to become more active at [Lovia if you wanted to. We can really use a helping hand out there. The LCP needs you and your vote in the elections. In order for you to be able to vote in the elections you will require 50 edits on wikination. Elections run until the 27th of january 2010. See you there. [[User:Pierius Magnus|Dr. Magnus]] 16:48, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Bentwaters/Woodbridge Military Government
Thanks for the minor edits you made :)

Verence71 16:02, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Losing Patience
Owen, take down those AH's that you have listed in your creations. They are not yours, that's incredibly rude and quite possibly illegal for you to do. Mr.Xeight 19:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mr. X is right. Both of the timelines you claimed to have written on your user page have been written by other users (Likem96 created Communist Timeline and Buk5 created Soviet defeat). Taking credit for other people's work is not going to be tolerated at this wiki. You have 24 hours to remove your claim of authorship or else you will be blocked from editing. Mitro 17:46, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will chime in. Owen, I think you can agree that we have shown incredible patience with some of your behavior on-wiki. This latest episode of you claiming credit for other people's work (which has been going on for a few weeks now) is completely unacceptable. Many people have asked you nicely to remove those comments. I'll support Mitro's warning: delete them or face a one week ban. Benkarnell 21:31, January 21, 2010 (UTC) he never gave me a chance the reason why i didnt remove them i i was working till 5 yesterday so i got some food and I had to go to the aipot 2 pick my friend up wich is the other side 2 were I live and the flight was delayed and it was 11:00pm when i got in so i went 2 bed Owen1983 19:09, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Your reply was quite rude, an apology and explanation might be nice as well. Mr.Xeight 01:48, January 22, 2010 (UTC) if you thaught my message was rude i will apologise Owen1983 19:09, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blocked
Per the reasoning above, you have been blocked for one week because of plagiarism. Owen, at the end of your blocking period you will be given another 24 hours to remove your alleged authorship of the timelines on your user page. If you still have not removed the content, you will be blocked for a month. Mitro 17:24, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

were I live plagerism aplies to copywrited material since i contributed heavily to them they are min and you have threatened me before once was about the proposals tag then i found out you ore somone alse removed il take this to the wikia staff because in my state I nothing wrong and you are threatening me Owen1983 18:47, January 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * In a legal sense, I suppose, plagiarism means stealing copyrighted material. But this is a creative writing wiki, and when you claim someone else's writing as your own (copywrighted or not), it damages the quality of the site, and it really damages our community. That's both the community here on this site, and the wider alternate history/constructed culture community on the Web. Other people put a lot of work into those projects, and it is not acceptable for you to pretend that you did the work. If you take this to Wikia, I do not think they will be very sympathetic. In a school, a stdent can be busted for plagiarism if they copy another student; and here, you cannot impersonate another editor. 207.63.140.254 19:56, January 22, 2010 (UTC) (Benkarnell)

in what whay Am i damaging this community I have contributed to those tlsOwen1983 20:03, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply contributing to a TL never allows you to claim you created them. Furthermore your contributions to Soviet defeat have been incredibly minor and claiming you are the author as you do on your user page is a slap in the face to Buk5 (the actual creator of the TL). Also your "contributions" include creating an article that was immediately rewritten by Das Taub and a few minor changes to the TL and portal page. Under your logic I can correct one typo and create a stub and claim to be the creator of the timeline.
 * Simply put Owen you are taking credit for others work. It says on your user page, and I quote, "TLs I have created." It is then followed by two TLs you have not created. I fail to see how you did not do anything wrong in this situation. This is the same situation if you were to take someone's report, cross of their name and put down your own, and turn it in and claim you wrote it.
 * Furthermore don't say you were not given a chance to remove them. On January 18th Mr. X asked you to remove the offending content and you replied to him on the 19th that you would not. You weren't blocked until the 22nd, 3 days after you refused to remove it. I fail again to see how you were not given enough time. Mitro 23:41, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * MrX8 first asked Owen to take it down on the 8th, not the 18th. It's been two weeks. Benkarnell 23:50, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

the soviet defeat article was abandoned so i adopted it check out the historyOwen1983 14:36, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is a lie. If you atually look at the history of the portal page you can see that Buk5, Das Taub and Katholico have all been working on it before and after your one small edit to the article. It has not been abandoned. In fact I believe it is time that I bring Buk5 into this conversation, I'm sure he has something to say to the person taking credit for his work. Mitro 14:45, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I meant communist timelin soviet defeat is buk5s work and I have not edited Owen1983 14:51, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * If its Buk5's work, why did you write on your user page you created it? Futhermore you have edited it, check the history of the portal page just like you told me to. Mitro 14:58, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

here is the history were are the edits you are covinced are mine
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 * You're kidding me right? How about the one that says it was done by Owen1983? In case you can't see it I bolded it for you. Is that not your name? Also what is with the sudden change of story? Just yesterday you said "I have contributed to those tls", now you are saying you have never contributed to one them. You are contradicting yourself.
 * Owen the fact of the matter is that on your user page you claim to have created two timelines that we know for a fact that you did not create. You have already told a member of the TSPTF that you would not remove them. Because of that you have been blocked for a week. When your block is over you will be given another 24 hours to remove the statement or else you will be blocked again.
 * Finally, Owen nothing you can say can change the fact that on your user page it says you are claiming to have created TLs that you did not create. Your arguments are contradictory and I am tired of going in circles with you. I will contact you again to warn you when your block is over, but until then I am uninterrested in continuing this conversation. If you wish to remain a member of this Wiki, I recomend a serious change of attitude. Mitro 03:12, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

listen it was a mistake OK im not contradicting anyting and I am goin to get a wikia admin 2 saught ie Angela or Chip2007 this out becuse u are threatening me Owen1983 16:02, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Owen, your block ends today. After your block ends you have 24 hours to remove the false statements from your user page. If you do so you may continue being an editor on this wiki. If you do not you will be blocked for a month and I will remove the statements myself. Mitro 14:13, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ty Owen1983 17:05, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

it seem you are correct
I did make an eddit to the soviet defeat articleOwen1983 16:26, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Owen1983
I can see on your takpage rhat on ten occasions you have been spoken to by admins and another user about your conduct but taking cred for articles you didn't create is out of order and must not continue you wer told to delete them in which you refused to do and were given 24 hours to remove them but this didn't happan and you are not being bullied IMO the Admins and community have being very understanding with you 86.182.52.36 17:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC) (chip2007)

Did you Honestly Think You Were Done
Listen to me, and listen good.
 * You still have a lot of housekeeping to do; articles like the Parthenopean Republic you didn't even contribute to at all. Hey, if you want, keep it up; we'll just ban you for a month this time, we're all going to enjoy doing it, you've been quite an anathema to us for quite some time. If you have any problems talk to me as an adult, don't leave topics without text on my talk page that doesn't have a single word typed correctly or contain proper grammar or syntax.

Mr.Xeight 02:10, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Do not lie to me, Owen. That IP adress only shows two edits. You have edited in anon form before, the contributions page would have shown other, older edits. Every time you lie in gets EVERYONE here at AltHist wiki more and more angry at you. My advice to you is leave before you get a permanent ban, it's only a matter of time, my friend. Mr.Xeight 02:40, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

"Adopted" pages and the rest of the list
What MrXeight says above is true. You've made incredibly minor edits to most of those pages: for Quad Cities, you added a single sentence that's not in the current version anyway. For Belau, all you did was remove a proposal tag. But by far the worst claim on your list is the claim that you "adopted" Blond Death. Fero created that timeline  yesterday . You've had enough warnings. I'm instituting the one-month ban that we said would happen next time you did this. You can keep discussing it here if you feel it's unfair, but I feel you are getting exactly what you were told would happen, the next time you took credit for other people's pages. Benkarnell 02:56, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Fero put Blond Death up for adoption and Mr.Xeight is right about the minor edits--Owen1983 11:12, February 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I apologize for the misunderstanding around Blond Death. Nevertheless, I feel that the block is justified because of the other pages on that list.  It is misleading to say you wrote (or even "contributed to") a page when all you did was insert a single sentence or make a similarly unimportant edit.  Benkarnell 17:09, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou benOwen1983 18:10, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom of Albion
Owen, in regards to your Kingdom of Albion article, both Cleveland and Northumbria are Smoggy's works. You might want to talk to her first before you use her material in one of your own articles. Mitro 21:38, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

the kingdom of Albion is a successor state to Kingdom of Cleveland (1983: Doomsday) and the Kingdom of Northumbria (1983: Doomsday) anyways I will check the talkpage--Owen1983 12:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand that Owen, hence why I said you should check with her before using her material. Mitro 14:25, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

as i'm writing Northumbria, Cleveland and Rheghed dont you think i should be writing that?, plus it will be in the FAR FAR future that the kingdom of Albion will come into effect once two monarchs have passed through both the thrones of Northumbria and Cleveland.

if you want to write a doomsday page have a look at Shropshire and/or the surrounding area as there aren't many nuke hits round that area instead of trying to hijack any of my pages, thanks--Smoggy80 17:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

hi
86.182.48.241 20:07, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Response
Those haven't been researched at all. I specifically said that you made them, and only put them on the page because you have not.

They are just further attempts to let your precious Manchester live.

You call that attacking your work? Needs to be actual work first, buddy.

Lordganon 14:03, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, though you don't seem to be. Ya completely missed what I said.

Lordganon 22:26, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Removing Banners
Owen, I have warned you before about removing proposal and obsolete banners when you have no reason to. Do it again and I will block you from editing. Mitro 00:45, September 9, 2010 (UTC)