User talk:Seiga Miyako

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Principia Moderni
Wales would like to metion that the Welsh people have your back in any endevour. Finland has been a great mediator of the Peace. Wales is now trading nuclear research freely between the East and the West. It is best for all nations of the world to use nuclear research as a Peaceful tool for energy and commerce. Wales has sent a joint project alliance with Nippon and would be thrilled if Finland could be a part of it seeing as you are the bridge between the East and the West. Also on a side note the ne Prime Minister absolutly loves your Manga and would love to see more! He loves it so much he has commisioned two Manga stores in Cardiff!Andr3w777 04:24, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

I am a little concerned about the dangerous rhetoric coming from Wonderlaand. I am one of Denmark's oldest allies and I am worried that a war may be in the near future. Is there anyway that Finland can help defuse the situation, or if that fails, help us if attacked?Andr3w777 02:05, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well I wouldn't mind Nippon retaining its colonies, I'm going to give Mauritius independence eventually then I have 3 colonies and 2 vassal states which are allowed so personally I'd rather have Nippon keep them. Plus other than war or a major economic disaster there isn't much reason for Nippon to loose the colonies either. Sunda is doing quite well by itself too, but could join the confederacy after a long period of allegiance and economic integration. But to be honest as long as they are all allied its better as we have more allies to add to the war algorithms in case we are attacked. New Maya and Pahang are another matter though as they are controlled by Lurk so they could be liable to attack us. But as long as we are allied with them and relations don't go sour then we should be okay.

If we do want to expand the confederacy it'd be either because of very close relations with the confederacy or the confederacy conducting regime change in a nation to make them democratic and making them part of the confederacy. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 16:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Unk. Lan.
Take all of it. Just make sure it doesn't get bigger than British Empire :D  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 13:32, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Can you put it on the page and strike your name out? I want to go to toilet so I'll be right back :D  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 14:25, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this rule was not only in our map game, but in this whole wikia. So, it's always been like that :P  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 16:30, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

"Japanification" of nations in PMII
I would like to preface this discussion by stating that you have probably the longest and most detailed posts in Principia Moderni to date. You are a valued contributor to this map game, and you probably will be in Principia Moderni II.

However, I do have to say that, looking back on it, your massive "Japanification" and "Shintoization" of Finland is one of the most implausible actions of the game that was not crossed out. The main reason for this being implausible is that there wasn't really any cause. Finland wasn't one of the areas in Europe that was colonized by Japan. They really had no reason to be so influenced by Japan, especially since the Japanese homeland was, at the time, being conquered by Korea and Vietnam and not really in any position to influence anyone. I suppose the influence could have come from Prussia, southern Denmark, or the Netherlands (former Japanese colonies) but that would have been the Schmittists (Buddhism-Shintoism-Christianity-Taoism-Confucianism blend) and with a lot of German/Dutch culture mixed up with it. Furthermore, unlike Christianity, Islam, and to a lesser extent Buddhism, Shinto isn't a religion that converts people. Really, unless there was massive Japanese immigration to an area or Japan trying to culturally assimilate the people of an area, it would be unlikely for them to adopt Shinto. Now, Finland never has been a bastion of Christianity (it was one of the last pagan areas of Europe, and the Finnish religion's influence lingered for quite some time), and in this game with the national church switching back and forth between Catholic and Orthodox (depending on whether it was Sweden or Russia in control), Christianity was weak, but I find it unlikely that Shinto and Finnish Neopaganism would have risen to totally dominate the Finns, and it is unlikely that so many Finnish people would adopt Japanese names and customs

Now, that said, your posts are still interesting and fun to read, and it would be utterly idiotic of me to try and force you to retcon anything. Furthermore, it was sort of the fault of the administrators (including myself, though I was still very new to administration at this time) for not catching this earlier. However, for Principia Moderni II, I will stop any attempts to make Shinto replace Theravada Buddhism as the Siamese religion, or for all the Thais to suddenly adopt Japanese names and customs. Thailand can be a good ally of Japan, and perhaps adopt some Japanese culture (like making the Thai Buddhism more similar to that of Japan, perhaps adopting some technologies or governmental features of Japan), but it should still be distinctly Thai and not Japanese unless it is totally conquered and forced to assimilate. If you really want to control a Japanese-style nation in the next game, you do have several options Again, note that I don't want to punish you or shout at you, it is far too late for that, but please don't totally destroy and "Japanify" the culture of Thailand in the next game. Thank you --LurkerLordB (Talk) 16:59, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) You could negotiate with Japan's player (I think Yankovic is playing) and try and ask him to switch nations
 * 2) You could found a joint Siamese-Japanese colony which you would then control.
 * 3) You could conquer or buy a Japanese colony.

Japan (Principia Moderni II)
I had wanted to play Japan in the first Principia Moderni game, but someone else got to it first. I wish I would be able to play as Japan in this game, but I'm willing to step aside for you. I'm torn on whether (I hate that word) or not I should play as the Vietnamese or the Incans. What do you think I should do?

Yank 18:14, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Another option I forgot to mention would be for Japan to split into two nations. Or, someone could play the Ainu or Manchus, and have them become full-on civilizations with heavy Japanese aid, that certainly would be plausible to occur, and they would be massively Japanized. LurkerLordB (Talk) 18:34, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Japan/China in GE
Hey. I'm wondering, if you can change the GE map to fit how Japan/China currently looks like and post it on my talk page. Thanks in advance :)  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 10:16, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Never, ever ask me such questions again! You know that my answer is neg-- positive! Look at how I let DeanSims slip through what he did for the first time. Speaking of unifying Japan, that's completely normal for me.  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 18:58, July 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * D: Sorry... I didn't mean to anger you. Forget I said anything. -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.svg|23px|border]] 19:19, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

How about exile? I didn't realize she was that old, I mean if she did go prison then she'd be in a special one anyway. So how does exiling her to St.Helena sound to you? I could have Sunda take over the island as a penal colony and then she is sent there. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 17:49, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not completely sure exactly what this third eye stuff is all about, but yeah go ahead, I can't really think it would cause too many problems. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:33, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Cheers for the advice, I've amended my posts in 1955 to account for those things. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 08:58, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Is the Shogun of Saigyō an elected position or not? Also Sunda will be joining this turn so the economy of Saigyō is going to be sluggish for a little bit as we sort out Sunda to make it part of the confederacy. Also Brunei likes manga and anime too, albeit not as much as Kōshi but try including them a bit more please? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 10:45, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, but could we not make Shogun an elected position though? Its a confederacy so its meant to be a diplomatic entity, hence elected leaders. Plus could some of the future Shoguns be from Brunei, Sunda or Kazami, rather than just Koshi all the time? All 4 of the member states are meant to be treated equal so it would make sense for the leaders not to just keep coming from the same region. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 11:11, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

How about a 5 term limit? 25 years in power is plenty long for anyone. Also can we have a few male Shoguns? Not loads but its the most plausible thing for everyone to be female, especially if there are a lot of Hindus and Muslims in the country.

Also for this democratic reform, I'm thinking the recently joined Sundanese first start pushing for it then everyone else gets on board. Then we have the position of Shogun going to the leader of the majority political party (like with the position of Prime minister. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 15:56, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah sure, the last one can be a female. Also want to have the first child born to the Imperial family? Female, I'm guessing you'll want it to be. Which I'm fine with. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:38, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reannexizaritiniation of Unknown Landmass Geo-Political Simulation Map Game☺
♀♀♀♀ I have lost most of interest to Unknown Landmass, because it is kind of... No longer played by others, and... Since it's too ASB, I'm thinking of either closing it, or skipping it into 15th century or something like that. What do you think? ►♫◄ ♪↕ ‼ ‼ ¶ § ▬ ↨ ↑ ↓ → ← ∟ ↔ ▲

Timeline, you say? Well, I guess when I skip to 1400, then we'll slowly go to the end, so we could get ideas for the timeline.  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 18:12, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I know you are nuetral, and I hate to ask you to do this, but please help Europe in the future world war. The Asians don't just want to beat Russia, but they want to subjigate all of Europe. You have been a good ally and I hate to ask you to do this but please, this one time, side with us. We need you otherwise we may no longer exist.Andr3w777 (talk) 21:46, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

House (PM)
Um, well he is from the Ghandi Dynasty. The house would either be Bharat-Dravid-Afghan or Rajput-Pasto (or Rajput-Pasto-Vijay for that matter). It is a lot easier to make up western houses compared to the east! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:49, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

As of union do you mean custom and monetary union cause in that we help both of us econimicly and militarily. And if so what would it be called. I know a bit about Ainu culture and that they were the original inhabitants of Japan. Also taking I have acsess to Kamatcka I might be able to focus on my navy especially hull strength an dthen maybe traversing the Bering Sea can be considered plausible. We'll have to focus on the Japanese and Ainu languages cause then we can have realistic names for the new world and are colonies. To us wouldn't the new world seem like the far east to us so that would factor in. Willster22 (talk)

Well for the name transliterate some japanese so it will be more realistic. It was your idea so use japanese and plus if you happen to know where to find an ainu translator online that would be perfect for naming colonies. But basicly no random japanifications of finland and i am fine. Willster22 (talk) Oh and I want full control of Hokkaido.

I said Saigyo is sending Nippon supplies to help them in the war, seeing how they are good allies of Nippon and collectivism/communism opposes monarchies like the one we got in Saigyo. If that's not okay with you, do tell me & I'll remove Saigyo if necessary. Otherwise I'll assume that you're okay with it. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:13, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hear you loud and clear man. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 21:22, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

I think you should read more into my posts, lol. The Union Defense Forces are for homeland defense only (of both countries). I do have a separate navy! :P I am basically adding ships to the UDF so they are at least threatning, there is no use in a UDF if they cannot do their job. So I hope you get what I mean. BTW, do you think the Emperor and Empress have had kids, if not we should quickly give them some or there will be no heirs to the throne!! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:16, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, hey, hey, they are going to have the last name of Ghandi ;) Well, maybe Komeji-Ghandi, but you get my point, ye?! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:52, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I have a question: how would me play as a nation possibly in southeast asia or the eastern coast of asia cause i cant find any sources for ainu history or language. If this cant work i will continue to play as the Ainu in PMII. Willster22 (talk) howbout the Ternate Sultanate or Champa possibly Pajajaran.

I have decided I will keep the Ainu but what do I do for president names and for colony names. Willster22 (talk)

Is it okay with you if Saigyo send military aid to the Kingdom of France in their latest war against the People's Republic of France? Seeing how Saigyo is fairly anti-collectivist now and this war won't get the SDL involved I think Saigyo would get fully involved sending military aid rather than just supplies. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:04, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I got the Soni group who have currently introduced Betamax and the Sony/Soni walkman. When the time comes they'll introduce the playstations. You can have Nintendo if you want? You already done your Super Csokonai Sisters (similar to otl Super Mario Bros) game, so you have Nintendo stuff and I'll have Sony stuff. The other stuff we can split and I'm sure some other people will join in and make some games. But tbh we can do as much stuff as we want, and I can see every nation releasing a game console in this timeline, I mean look at all the space stuff! VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:02, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah there are some games but nothing fancy like. Guess I'll have Toshiba release some from this turn onwards. TBH I don't really have the time to go into too much detail these days, I got exam revision to be doing :/ VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 19:34, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah I see. Sorry to hear that. Hope you do well on your exams. -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.svg|23px|border]] 19:48, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cheers mate, if I fail them I might go a bit crazy lol. Don't fancy being kicked out of uni or having to re-do first year. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:40, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

You don't have to keep killing of the Shoguns, they can just be defeated in an election and then not re-elected again. Maybe with this new one, have her in power for 1 term, then have her loose the next election and then get re-elected in the one after that for 2 more terms. Then she gets defeated and looses leadership of her political party. Just to spice things up a bit. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 12:46, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well how about we make it interesting? Like you say Mystiää will be all alone soon and probably won't be able to support itself (i.e. it relies on international aid), so we could have Mystiää try to expand in order to get more land so it can sustain itself.

Mystiää could first invade Thailand and then Pahang (thailand first because they are weaker than Pahang), and then try attacking Nippon and Saigyo. Then Saigyo and Nippon join in the war (and anyone else who wants to get involved for that matter) to protect Pahang and Thailand, as well as to protect our own territory and assets, and we push back the Mystiääns and overthrow the government. The Mystiään new democractic government could then be convinced to join Saigyo as if they were there own nation they'd be heavily reliant on international aid, so they join the confederacy of Saigyo for help rebuilding and also because they retain a lot of self control while being protected and funded by the rest of Saigyo. Mystiää then goes onto become the main industrial/factory/manufacturing region of Saigyo (you keep talking about Mystiää industrializing so I'm guessing there are a lot of factories in Mystiää).

We would have to talk to Lurk as he owns Pahang in order to allow him to go along with the plan, maybe Yank as well because he is another regional power in SE Asia and we don't want him getting the wrong ideas about this plan. Thailand doesn't have a player so we could basically get them to do what we want too.

If you want to do this, then Mystiää will have to greatly expand its military capabilities in order to facilitate this much expansion, maybe have something about all citizens being forced into national service ages 18-24 or something and everyone else is like in the back-up reservist army. Then once Mystiää has finished its expansionist wars and been defeated it joins Saigyo.

What you think? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:19, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well post the plan on the PM talk page so everyone knows what is going down, let everyone accept it and then we go through with it. And yeah as you push Thailand up the Malay peninsula Mystiää will then start a war against Pahang as the war in Thailand seems to be over soon. Then the SDL and other allies of Thailand get involved to stop the Mystiään advance into Thailand, to which Mystiää gets annoyed at and invades Nippon's Ringga & Nikoman colonies, as well as that island Saigyo has in-between Malay peninsula and Borneo. The Malacca straits will see a lot of naval warfare and be virtually closed, causing a bit of an economic downturn/crisis (trade between east and west will be limited). Eventually Mystiää will loose the battle at sea and then proceed to heavily fortify the Malay coastline, as they loose the islands from their control. The main allied force will push down through Thailand until we launch something like a D-day landing in Malaysian Pahang. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:59, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hey if Empress Mikaela Tanaka has died, does it not make sense that Ahmad Tajuddin remain emperor until his death? I mean he is currently 79 years old, so maybe give him 3 more years rule and kill him off in 1995 at the grand old age of 82. Then their eldest child (which I take is Satomi Tajuddin-Tanaka) ascends to the throne upon his death. I mean what ever happened to respecting your elders? lol <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 09:30, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well he died in OTL after geting ill while on a visit to England and went on to die of a haemorrhage. Seeing how he probably never has or will visit England, he wouldn't get ill & die in the same circumstances as in OTL. Seeing how we have forgot to mention him until now I can say its only fair that he is still alive and we give him a few more years, as editing past turns now could have consquences on the current game, probably wouldn't affect it but who knows? But no need to aplogize, we just forgot about old Admad is all :P <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 17:33, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Don't sweat it, I only realized when I decided to have a look at how long she had been ruling for herself, only to find out we didn't kill him off :P <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 21:28, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah our claims are on the same bits of land. Look it doesn't matter, this happens in OTL, and since we can't really colonize Antarctica I think we should just leave it as it is. Maybe we agree to split proceeds from the land between us in half, but because we lack the need to actually do anything worthwhile with the land other than scientific research, I think we can just sort of grumble & shake fists at each other lol. But until the need to actually colonize Antarctica arises (which won't happen in this game) we can just ignore this, but if you want peace of mind, we could both sort of have a joint ownership of the land, perhaps the federation & Finland divide everything among themselves, but I see such a treaty being treated by other nations as something similar to the where no one but the two nations in the treaty actually abide by it. I'm not super fused about Antarctica as it offers me no foreseeable benefit, its more just claiming the land for sake of claiming the land. I mean what do you want to do? <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 12:43, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah we can do, also Nippon has just entered a recession caused mainly a dot.com boom, so you might want to have your nations entering recession as well as it spreads. TBH that has annoyed me, the lack of global economy cycles, we should of had so many more recessions and depressions, but I guess we're only focusing on the big ones. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:09, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Well Saigyo is at war, then the recession will be delayed in Saigyo but the next recession may be much worse, as debt will increase to fund this war. If Saigyo then got to spend money on helping Mystiää, then Saigyo's debt will increase, and the war time levels of production and consumption will fall so Saigyo would enter a recession eventually, unless they balance out their GDP by increasing spending to offset the effects of falling production and consumption. But if your gaining all these new people living in Mystiää then consumption will increase and you have more production opportunities. So as Saigyo don't go too far into debt there economy will be okay in the long run. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 16:39, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

A Great World
kochi i dont know if you would care too much about this but i want to invite you to my map game called A Great World (Map Game) which as you might see, a new version of Unknown landmass you can pick a nation and do whatever you want to do Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:07, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Gandhi. And I tried to translate it (using more than one way) but it didn't work! :/ Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:13, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

चंद्रमा गांधी उज्ज्वल-प्राचीन पृथ्वी is Moon Gandhi-[Ancient] Bright Earth. Bit long though, lol! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:31, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:44, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Spam filter
Reported it, though I think you should have had the option pop up to do it yourself.

Don't think anyone will be able to edit it right now, so you may want to remove the word.

Lordganon (talk) 09:18, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sakhalin (PMII)
I would like to ask you if it would be okay for me to incorporate the island of Sakhalin into Manchuria. I'm trying to gain control over as much of OTL Outer Manchuria as possible, and some people consider Sakhalin part of that region. I have no interest in the territory of OTL Japan.

Yank 00:27, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'd love to have an alliance with you. It'd be ironic to have Japan and Manchuria allied as equals rather than master and servant. I would also like to work out a deal with you on how we split the OTL Russian Far East. I want to get enough territory to reach to the Bering strait, as I'm planning on eventually colonizing Alaska. Can you show me what you want in Russia?

Yank 00:58, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I accepted the alliance offer but I do have an in-game request. Do not worry, you will not be threatened. First, you must support and aid the Ainu so when they get to a decent tech level you can join in a dynastic union. I would love to have a Vijay-Japan union later on, and see what effect the hindu faith would have on the Japanese. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:07, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well you do have the Ainu to tame first. Conquer Hokkaido and then Kamchatka will be open without the colonial expansion limits. Scandinator (talk) 13:06, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

I-Europe II
He would suddenly come back after a year wouldn't he? Lol, well I wanted to wrap up the game with you but it seems he wouldn't want to end this game on our terms. Seeing how the game's rules leave a lot to be desired I can see the game just ending up in one big argument, ending up with us having to use our authority to make him respect our authority.

You could always use the game rule number 6: ''Inactive users become neutral, unable to oppose invasion. (Still be reasonable when it come to invading them, they're not just going to bow down, only take the right amounts of land).'' Then you could say using this he isn't allowed to undo all that stuff.

Plus then you can use the 2nd rule: Invading a new territory takes 1 turn, you can have multiple fronts but it should take slower. to make him undo him taking back all of the territory in 1 turn.

All that said its only delaying the inevitable and its just gonna end up who can ever shout the loudest. I'm just going to stick to playing PM2. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 14:06, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

PM II
ill consider it but it might be a good idea. -Nkbeeching 17:12, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

A Darker Place
i would like your opnion of my timeline A Darker Place i always like other peoples impressions. -Nkbeeching 17:16, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

its a mixture of different factors that lead to china's defeat and the fact that japan wins the war is the short term reason the toyotomi's are able to retain power but its the reforms that prove important in the long run but for the position of Kampaku, eventually a situation will occur were the place of Kampaku becomes more accessible and not just a position held by the toyotomi clan.

England's control of northern france is permanant im afraid. the french in europe will forever remain a shattered state under the fist of the spanish who will take their place as the major catholic power and england will become the check against the hapsburg family a situation that france held in OTL. France's restoration will not be in europe but in the Americas or Terra Nova as they will be called in the TL.

Nkbeeching

War in China
i think we should not annex territories in China yet but leave them under joint occupation and continue pushing inland, once the war is over we can break china into smaller states under E.A.T.S.P. influence while we each take 4 or 5 cities along the coast as national territories.. Nkbeeching

Sounds good my eyes are more to north but i might take one or two cities in the souther area as well. Also i plan to make your nation become greater Siam in the future returning most of the lands that siam was stripped of by the europeans.

so we will leave it as a joint occupation for now. Nkbeeching

over time eventually the regions will be unstable and revolutionary groups will grow without a doubt in those times we can expand our influence and you can take small peices here and their, not all at once but over the next 30 years. Also im trying to purchase indochina at the moment and if successful you will get most of old Siam back and i will tale a small area probably Cochinchina. and the rest will be granted independence as a member of the E.A.T.S.P. worst comes to worst we go to war in the future as liberaters of asia or die trying. may as well go for glory or burn inj it ;)

Nkbeeching

Start of a Greater War
you ready for a much largerr conflict on the horizon. we will use the disorientation that is beginning to build up in europe to promote freedom is asia. we wont go to war with british, french or americans as we need to maintain good ties with them but we can liberate the stray areas and create allies in those areas ill need your help in the dutch east indies and you will be more active their then i will since my main efforts will be in china now but the Japanese Navy will aid your forces and provide the support for the operation. Nkbeeching

Japan PMII
Firstly I gotta say... I love your page especially the comical map :D. I'll be creating an international history one sometime and would appreciate help. (Won't be anytime soon, maybe I'll start in Jan). However the real reason I'm here is to request if you could have a period similar to OTL Sengoku where there is war amongst the Daimyos and the Emperor's influence is reduced to Kyoto. If you wish you could take control of any of the factions and unite Japan or wait for the crisis to pass in your capital. There will be no players joining as a Japanese state unless you agree to it. And if there is a foreign invader then most of the Daimyo will unite to fight them off and then squabble again. What do you say? Also when Venice discovers Japan in 1515 will you allow the Venetians to purchase Dejima? Scandinator (talk) 12:54, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

OMG that program is epic :D But that wasnt what I had in mind for the international comic. It is probably going to be something like this WWII comic. Nice plan for the Sengoku, will you be the emperor in Kyoto or take control of one of the daimyos and try to unite Japan? Also for the trading post I would prefer somwthing a little closer to a major city similar to Dejima, maybe an island near Osaka or in Tokyo Bay? In return Venice can gift Japan with an island in the Venetian archipelago as well as ship designs to get them there. Scandinator (talk) 10:09, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for offering to help. I'm going to be waiting for some more history to occur and also for things to die down here (about to start the final round of university entrance exams :S). I'm sorry but Satori and Koishi can't be in this comic. It is maps only. That island sounds great. Is the Isola_di_San_Michele ok for you? With the Satomi, didn't they start in Gunma, Ibaraki and Chiba? If you are looking for the Shikoku clan that was the Hosokawa. Though they also controled Settsu and Awa through the Miyoshi who were their vassals. And if you stay plausable then you can mention other clans though most of it should be done as mod events so other players dont think they can do the same with their neighbours... Scandinator (talk) 12:48, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! With the comic, hats are fine, but hair... is a nono. I know a few people that are into Touhou, could you maybe explain it a little? Reorganizing clans is fine. Your clan will win in the end (the mod events will move you towards a united Japan since that is what happened OTL and also since it is your initiative to have a Sengoku period) though there will be tough times. Scandinator (talk) 13:43, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Your taste in music... is equal... only to me! A fan of techno and electro music here, favourite sub group is trance :D Scandinator (talk) 15:22, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
In the game I have launched a massive invasion of Manchuria, which used to be original Korean land. We beg the Japanese government not interfere, as it would not be good for the interests of both sides. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 13:45, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. This will not be forgotten :) PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 13:54, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

I doubt, though, that the entry of Japan would have made a huge difference in the war, as I have a 51 point advantage lol. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 13:54, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Greater Europe
My Reich is already allied with you! And you can have some help taking over Siberia yeah. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 12:21, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Russian Touhou emblems
Err.... No offense, but every time I read what you wrote on those emblems it's killing my brain. Next time you'll need to translate something into Russian just ask me, okay? — Hellerick 17:45, October 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Anyway, what do the Touhou Russian Emblems say?
 * Uh... I wish I could understand it myself. The grammar is totally off, but the words mean something like this:
 * Koisha Komeidiskaya (Bubi), a pilot belonging to the research institute of special weapon for strategical situations.
 * Rinn Kaenbjorg (Necromanta), a researcher of instruments for special weapon use.
 * Uts'ho Reiudi (Triglav), an investigator of progressive advancing and developing of special weapon.
 * Yamame Krodani (Top Spiders), an information and communication network reseacher platoon commander in war with special weapon conditions.
 * Kisme Idogami (Wandering Lights), a combined information high investigator in war with special weapon conditions.
 * Yugi Hoshigma (Superhuman Firmness), a tactic operation researcher commander in war with special weapon conditions.
 * Satrina Komeidiskaya (All-seeing Eye), an investigator of the research institute of special weapon for strategical situations.
 * — Hellerick [[Image:Flag of Divnogorsk.svg|20px]] 10:35, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

New Idea
I have an idea for a my timeline, which resembles "At the End of Spring", but the "second Japan" will be Russia, and not Poland. Be able to help with something? -Drako Jankovic 16:39, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Arabian Failure Mapgame
i don't know if you are interest but would you like to join this map game i've made Arabian Failure (Map Game) Sine dei gloriem (talk) 04:10, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Arabian Failure map game
the game has begin so please begin posting Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

A Darker Place
interested in offiacially becoming a part of the Timeline and subsequent books ill be writing about them, id love to have some help with the japanese timeline and creation of characters once ive brought the western timeline up to speed with the oriental one. and a native japanese would probably provide the best insight into the timeline, though i have read about japanese history and know a bit about it a native will always know more, if your interested message me.

Nkbeeching

sure thing and it wont be that far off in the future that ill need your help in the next month or two ill be expanding greatly the timeline, and once ive reached modern day ill be creating a new wikia because i want to make this timeline go into the future and expand it as much as possible also to have a place to post the chapters and books since they will contain content i wont be able to post on this wikia. Nkbeeching

re: Japanese Pirates
China will offer full support against the pirates. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 04:44, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hindustan is calling its ally for aid in a colossal war which is going to happen against Hindustan and Ethiopia. Its time that the Japanese looked up to the bigger picture. Hindustan is calling the country to help defend itself against the Cahphilate once more. Hindustan can also send troops to aid your fight against the pirates in the short-term, but its time to make a stand. We have asked China as well, and will be asking Korea. If we can unite, the Cahphilate will pose us no problems in the future ever again. It is time to fight back! Japan must keep in mind, that if Hindustan falls, then there will be no stopping the Cahpilate from taking over your claims and such. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:22, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hewwo! :3

Nice page and I like your articles ^-^AltHistoryGeek (talk) 00:19, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

When is Sengoku starting? I will use your base map for the PMII main map. Scandinator (talk) 14:00, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Favorite Anime
Well I like Hetalia and Yuru Yuri. How about yours?AltHistoryGeek (talk) 18:20, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hey could you please read my new article called World War II different outcome no. 2? I worked really hard on it :3

If your busey thats okay though. :)AltHistoryGeek (talk) 00:39, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
That be great. :D Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:03, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks! I worked hard on that one! I'm working on a new alt history right now.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 20:14, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Apocalypse:2012
Basically I wish to make a post-nuclear war world with the nuclear war occurring on 21/22 December 2012. Would you be interested in finding sites in and around Japan that would be likely to have been hit by Russia if nuclear war occurred? And then you would also be in charge of organizing the Japanese state(s) that emerge after the war. Scandinator (talk) 00:07, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

It's here!
My new Alt Hist. The USSR Conflict. Please read and tell me what you think :]AltHistoryGeek (talk) 18:59, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

They wouldn't do that XD

I seriously think if Khrushchev didn't accept Eisenhowers idea, the USSR could have conquered the world. lol even though it's just an alt hist, i take my alt hists like they really happened.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 21:29, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

The USSR still could have conquered the world though.

And even in real life, if the USSR had just once, tried to conquer the world even without vietnam or cuba's help, they could have done it. They had an amazing military.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 00:15, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

And besides, they humiliated the Nazis! The Allies couldn't have won WW2 without Russia's help.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 00:18, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

The thing is, I am not a communist nor a pro-russian, im just stating the facts. People underestimate the Soviet Union. A shame it's not around anymore.

I'll admitt I sound like a full blooded Communist, but the only reason I tend to endorse the Soviet Union (besides the facts) is my own political ideology is very similar to Communism. Yes, im gonna be a politician in Europe when I get a bit older.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 00:29, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, i just get like that when im trying to prove a point. Im an odd one XDAltHistoryGeek (talk) 01:16, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Need your support
the russians and koreans are looking at the e.a.t.s.p. as if they are nothing, i need your support to deal with chinese rebels so that japanese troops can deal with the northern problem. Nkbeeching

Hewwo :3

 * 3

Just stoping by to say hi. What's up?AltHistoryGeek (talk) 21:00, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Oh btw, please tell me what u and nkbeeching are talking about. Sounds like a map game? If so, I want in. Not to mention please tell me or direct me to information about map games. Cos I really wanna learn how and play.

Danke!AltHistoryGeek (talk) 21:06, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

So ur playing axis vs allies? Im playing as Norway. Alliance?AltHistoryGeek (talk) 21:54, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I have everything figured out now. Thank you for becoming an ally.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 22:26, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hey would you like to join my Map Game? World at War?AltHistoryGeek (talk) 00:47, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

World at War map game has started!AltHistoryGeek (talk) 23:34, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Greater Europe
I am willing to continue, even if no-one else is! TheB (talk) 15:22, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

A bit of a long time since ive talked to you o3o

How are you?AltHistoryGeek (talk) 19:57, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

World at War
Im alright o3o

Hmm...consider an alliance in World at war map game? Im not betraying my good friend the Soviet Union for nothing though. What would I get out of the alliance?AltHistoryGeek (talk) 21:12, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, but thanks for the offer though. -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.svg|23px|border]] 2012年12月20日 16:27:59 (JST)

Well ive just betrayed the Soviet Union if it means anything..AltHistoryGeek (talk) 17:25, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

A2012
Are you still in? If so, could we all have a meeting on the Talkpage, to get the timeline going? The apocalypse has occurred! The Royal Guns (talk) 20:56, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki
hi, Kogasa i would like to know if you would be willing to Come and Play in Map Game wiki any kind of Game you want, as i Want to Re activate the Map game wiki as an alternative way to the Althistory one, it would be also a good place to Make any sort of Map game project you might want Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, December 23, 2012 (UTC) http://mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/Map_Game_Wiki, BTW nice pic in you user talk!

Greater Europe
Sorry! Wasn't thinking, yes it is is westwards (German side). TheB (talk) 08:52, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Second New Idea
I got a new idea - a world in which Victoria does not rule England, and Russia, and Japan presently form an alliance. Can you help me? -Drako Jankovic 11:20, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

ATL Touhou Project
Here's your chance to produce a new alternate Touhou Project. It's for A World of Difference. It has to be Chinese, Indochinese (Vietnamese), or Filipino, and has to take place in Russia, Japan, or Siam. Can you do it?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:09, December 30, 2012 (UTC).

I guess it should probably be Shinto, as Buddhism and Taoism are weak forces ATL. And I think the latter of the two pairs you mentioned should be the main characters. That should be all. Have fun!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 22:10, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

The names should be Japanese, since it takes place in Japan, but some should also be Chinese.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:18, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

TOUHOU in a big name?
I want to know something, how true were the rumos that ZUN want to sell Touhou as a cute em up for several japanese companies, like Konami, SEGA and Hudson Soft, only to be refused by all those, how will be if one of those companies would have accepted Touhou?

And how are those Kaku Seiga jokes with SEGA? http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1134114/1girl-beret-blue_eyes-breath-console-fingering-hat

KNMC (talk) 20:37, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hey why you don't make a page of Touhou Project for the Timeline Ohga Shurgs? that will be appreciate.

KNMC (talk) 02:50, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

Touhou Project in 1983: Doomsday
Do a separate article, but put a link to it on the ZUN article. Lordganon (talk) 11:32, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Trance
Unfortunately, both are dead.

In DD, the Netherlands, barring parts of the extreme southwest and the northeast, is a write-off. Between the blasts, radiation, and the dams bursting, there's no survivors in most of that country, as well as most of Belgium.

The area is also more or less cut off from the two surviving areas by blast zones.

Of course, that's more or less moot - between the blasts themselves, and the small quakes that go off as a result of the bombs going off, the Dutch water systems went very fast. Pretty much all of Holland is underwater in DD.

Lordganon (talk) 05:06, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Axis Vs Allies reborn
Try an alliance with Thailand against Japan, it would be probably be politically affective and plausible.90.244.86.86 15:40, January 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * When the game is out of beta stage, then I'll consider it. For right now during beta stage, I'll stick with the Self-Governing region and such. Thanks for the suggestion though. -Kogasa [[Image:Symbol of Natori, Miyagi.png|23px|border]][[Image:宮城県.png|23px|border]][[Image:Flag of Japan.svg|23px|border]] 2013年1月10日 01:06:04 (JST)

Unlimited map games wiki.
Hey would you like to come check out Unlimited map games wiki. It is a website that will have no limitations on mapgames (Time,Nations,ETC) I hope you enjoy!The old baby (talk) 21:33, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Photoshop
I'll see what I can do. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 18:37, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Apoc:2012
Japan is in no condition to annex any new territories. They are in the middle of both an energy and a food crisis. Scandinator (talk) 17:31, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead. South Africa and Southern Wales already have pages. Scandinator (talk) 22:43, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

PM2
Hey, i'm Scandinavia in the game and I made contact with Japan decades ago but this time a special fleet that will be in Japan for three years is there. Shall we open trade ? -AP 22:22, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

AvARb Korean Independence
I offer you full independence.XX (talk) 22:48, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

<p class="MsoNoSpacing">Australian D: We wish to buy some copies of Imperishable Night (<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Gulim","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Gulim">영야초 ) for our libraries.The River Nile-2 (talk) 23:16, February 6, 2013 (UTC) <h2 class="MsoNoSpacing">PMII Conference I'm flexible. My ideal border would be the 37 parallel north until it meets the 120 meridian west, and then north until it meets the 42 parallel north, and from there west.

<--- Kind of like this

Again, this is ideal for me. I'm open for negotiation. Any objections? CourageousLife (talk) 23:52, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Great. Thanks! CourageousLife (talk) 00:31, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Answer
Power to you. Lordganon (talk) 11:06, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Ohga Shrugs
Sorry for the late reply. I'd be honored if you made a page for the Touhou Project in Ohga Shrugs. I haven't gone into PC gaming much yet in that timeline, so it should be simple enough to create something canon.--Salnax (talk) 19:23, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hey when did you found the saturn disc cover, did you made it yourself? Taito Fate was decide, was bought to Bandai to become their Arcade Arm, Namco fate still TBD, And Touhou Project will still be a Sega Mainstay or become Multiplatform(Taking Advantage of both Console similar power and both consoles online service), those thing still watn to know. KNMC (talk) 23:20, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

No problem
Sure, my picts are for this wiki and everyone is free to use it :) FirstStooge (talk) 14:04, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Just like in *here*, not too much different :)

BTW, I love your version of Japanese CoA =D FirstStooge (talk) 15:04, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Shinto is exist, but never named as "Shinto" since the Shinbutsu bunri (神仏分離) took a place as the Meiji Restoration never happened. FirstStooge (talk) 09:51, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

FTBW
Well, I decided that Communism and Socialism in this timeline is slightly different. First of all, Karl Marx used more Christian/Protestant ideas to promote his theory, so religion is more important, and actually more accepting to the conservative blocs of major nations.

Now, in China's case, Mao altered it from a Christian stand point to a more Confucian background to be more accepted in China. At the same time, while it is a one party state, it is fairly democratic, with different factions of the Communist Party of China basically acting like separate political parties. Free speech is tolerated (to a point), and Mao accepted the need for a mixed private/public economy early on, like what China has now. Also, China in this TL was invaded by Japan in the 1930s like OTL, but as Japan became a more and more repressive military dictatorship, artists fled and China opened it's arms to them, pretty much to stick it to Japan more than for humanitarian reasons. These emigres were more than artists, but also engineer's, businessmen and hundreds of highly skilled workers, which gave a huge boost to the Chinese Economy.

As for SEGA, I like it. However, I do like playing with names and products a bit, so if you want to, feel free to change the name, it's games and it's consoles. Also, I think if you want to you can make a different Japanese emigre company to rival them, becuase I see Nintendo as solely a software developer in this TL, kinda like SEGA is now. The SEGA analogue and another company, say one that mirrors Sony or something, have a huge competition in the late 1990s and into the 2000s. I will leave it up to you who wins. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 15:29, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, the Chinese Economy will be in the top ten of the world. Another thing I should mention about China: they are, in effect, three separate nations: a French colonial south (which includes Hong Kong), a Northern, Japanese dominated Manchuria, and a central, independent (but Russian and American allied) Communist China, with the capital in Shanghai. So, in effect this china is not the same China as in OTL, with say only 700-800 million people instead of 1.3 billion. I need to work on the China article, it's still set up for like the 1840s when I created most of them lol.


 * I agree with your idea for SEGA and Capcom, although I think Sony should remain a Japanese company, more devoted to military technologies and some consumer goods for Japan as a whole than a world wide audience as in OTL. The main reason I still chose the Nintendo name for the company made by Japanese emigre's to America was because the owner of the old Nintendo in Japan is one of the men who fled, but not before closing up his business in Japan, and he recreated in the US.


 * Last: Atari, and to some extent EA Games, are represented by ACE Games. The powerful, domineering and later bad business practices that ACE engaged in results in the collapse of the video game industry in 1983, like OTL, and they lost their monopoly hold on the industry after that, with the First Contact game being like Atari's ET game in 1982 that pretty much sank the company.


 * Now, I made Horizon Enterprises (run by Steve Jobs!) to be the one that challenges the ACE Goliath, and then ultimately succeeding, but not before destroying the industry in the 1980s. Horizon would mirror what Microsoft did with the Xbox, but not the development of Windows or anything like that. The ATL Sony analogue will be Clearwater Technology, which created the "GameStation" consoles. I have listed Nintendo as having a console, but I will change that to SEGA to fit in with what you are planning, with them playing the role of OTL Nintendo.


 * I hope this makes some sense. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 18:12, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * One other thing: how exactly do you make an archive page? My talk page is getting a bit long, and I want to make a second archive page. However, the last time I asked, someone just did it, and didn't tell me how to do it lol. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 18:19, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Nintendo did make a few consoles, but say about the time the SEGA/Capcom rivalry heated up, Nintendo stepped out of the picture, maybe sold designs for their next console to one of the other players (maybe Clearwater or something?), and then focused on software development afterward.

Since I personally despise EA Games right now for all they have done to ruin some of my favorite games, this EA Games will be pretty much like OTL Atari: still there after they failed, but basically the laughing stock of the video game industry.

As for PC... I named a company California Computing, and I think they will be a Dell or something in the ATL. Other than that, it is pretty much open to be added to as you, me and other's see fit. And I also just realize that Microsoft is there as well, but as a software developer. They will make an interface like windows for these computers, but there will be more than just them doing it, but all of them are much more crossover friendly than OTL, so that a product made for Microsoft will most likely work with a competitors... at least at the beginning. Maybe say in the late 1990s and 2000s new systems come in that become more like OTL, but there is still much more compatibility than you see now adays.

And thanks for the archive tips :D Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 21:23, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I like the Nintendo/Clearwater thing. That will work out well.


 * And the Lenovo thing is a good idea. I actually just got an older Lenovo ThinkPad laptop to use lol. And, yes with the Toshiba thing, though maybe that could also be something Sony does. I like to think this Japan as a psuedo-North Korea nation, especially since the 9/9/99 attacks (my parallel to 9/11, but it's against France and Japan).


 * I still have no idea what the OS's are going to be. Maybe instead of Windows (number here), I was thinking that instead Microsoft named their OS's after cities in the US and around the world (but they are changed to a simple Microsoft(number) in some foreign markets, like China or something). I will make a list, eventually, but, like I have said before, I want to make this TL different than OTL as much as possible, while leaving some things in to show similarities. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 22:52, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah... I think I'm going to take a stab at the Microsoft page right now, now that I'm thinking about it.


 * And, let's say that Japan decides to not tolerate "destructive" economic competition after a while, citing the need for a strong, united Japan. Therefore, say in the 1970s as the Japanese Exodus starts, Sony and Toshiba (which were founded a few years before, and already major players), are forcibly combined? I just don't think an isolated Japan will be a large enough market for two "big" electronics firms to compete well. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 23:27, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

With just the way that Japan was lording over Korea in OTL, which I think would be similar in ATL, I would say no to the Korean bit. For one thing, you won't even have that many highly trained Koreans, the majority most likely never getting an education past Junior High, just because of Japanese Repression. After all, free ideas that university's and colleges produce are very dangerous things to dictatorships, especially to dictatorships ruling over a culturally different people. So, no Samsung, and no Korean LG. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 00:23, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Heh, alright Kogasa, if I remember. If not, I'll just say like "resident Japanese person" XD


 * Anyway, I wrote the thing about racism a few years ago about the time I started finishing the main storyline. However, since then I've realized that was almost Utopian, and kinda didn't work. I guess what I will say is that racism isn't as bad as OTL, but there are still instances, such as Japan over Korea, Blacks and Whites in the Confederacy (which I will touch on later) and Germans and French in Europe.


 * As for music, that is something I know very little about, tbh. The little bit I do known is about Country Music, so that is one subject I will most likely just let other people work on at their liesure. I did a few things on the actual page, but they are available for revision as is seen fit. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 13:56, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually, Quebec is an ally of France, so don't expect much more sympathy there than what you would get in France itself.


 * Like I said, I don't know much about music, and even less about Techno and that, and I have no idea what Touhou is... However, I'm not going to interfere with your ideas with this. Movies, Music and Video Games are perhaps the easiest things to make to tie into an Alternate History, becuase many of them are simple shooters or with fantasy/Sci-Fi settings.


 * Lastly, I think that maybe most of the companies should maintain some naming conventions. Clearwater will have the GameStation and all associated ideas, and Horizon mostly sticks with naming it the "Horizon (number)000." If we keep it similar for SEGA, I suggest just sticking with planets, so no Dreamcast lol. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 15:10, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Well, maybe with Handhelds the names could be different... I'm not sure, it was just an idea I had while browsing through that page.

As well, I honestly do not mind if you do make a page with your ideas, because they can always be edited later after they are made. I have yet actually make use of my sandbox lol. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 15:55, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Your most likely going to be sick of me saying this by now, but I don't play fighting games, so that will be left to you. However, from the little I know about them, the story is unimportant: the characters and the fights are moreso. However, the Mortal Kombat/Street Fighter thing is alright with me. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 17:59, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * One thing about reading the Sega page was the Guinness World Records thing. Now, I want to do a World Record thing, but it's not going to be Guinness. I was thinking of some other beer brand, maybe in the US or Russia instead being the founder of the World Records. Any ideas? Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 20:42, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I will think about that... I will let you know what I decide. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 21:15, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * A bit of research later, I have decided that Baltika Breweries will be the founder of the Guinness World Records analogue. There, that was easy! Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 21:33, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just Baltika World Records I think.


 * Also, I've started to lay out the Clearwater Technologies page, but I think you might be better at that, both because of your work with the SEGA page (awesome work, by the way), and I presume Capcom in the near future? If you want, you can make the entire "Console Wars" if you want XD Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 21:43, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Alright sounds good. I'll leave you to that. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 22:58, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Japan's War With Korea
I would like to propose something: Japan is willing to cease hostilities with Korea if Korea pledges to help Japan in its war with China and will become a vassal of Japan for ten years. Don't want to be fighting too many people at once lol. At any rate, does this seem like a decent deal for the time being? CrimsonAssassin (talk) 02:19, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Fascist Britain
Japan has torn me a bit. I'm not knowledgeable about Japanese history to definitely choose a path for it. I would like to prevent the rise in Japanese militarism and thus prevent it from being defeated in WWII. So it might be a world power today.

My knowledge of Asian history as a whole is dreadful! I have however left China divided, Korea united and Vietnam in France's sphere. These are the only decisions I have made here so far.

If you have a suggestion, I'll be willing to accept it, as it will be better informed than any of my chooses for it. TheB (talk) 15:06, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

That seems a good idea. I'm not sure which one of those two would fit better in with the timeline (Japan only joined WWI because of an alliance with the UK, so a different approach would have to be taken for WWII if they were to join the Allies). I think this is plausible though.

If you wish to create a Japan page for Fascist Britain, feel free (I don't want to appear lazy by making you do it though!), as you are certainly more informed than I. I will only make lots of implausible mistakes! If not feel free to offer guidance at any time.

The B (talk) 17:18, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

interested in joining new map game? and i need your help with the tl now
im starting  a new map game based on the tl, and wonder if your interested. also need your help my friend. Nk 13:21, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

can you help me make the game as well sorry i have no idea were to start it starts from the fall of orleans Nk 15:31, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

strted the map game its called troubled times begin Nk 00:33, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Question
Yes you may. However expect a few mod events. Scandinator (talk) 21:35, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Hindustani Raj
I wouldn't mind that :) However, right now I need help for Japan after the 1560s. I might play around with a few butterflies to change Japan's territories and stuff. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:50, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm not really sure as to how a different family winning would change things, unless it means the nation becomes more expansionist early on. I wouldn't really mind having Japan take over a few islands. I would be interested in the idea of the Japanese having a bit of Kamchatka, but not lots as the Russians will need acess to the Pacific to expand Aleyska. I might have them winning in Korea, it all depends on your input :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:12, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Democratic Party of Japan
Oh? I do apologize, I didn't notice that. All I really looked at was the file name (which is the same as Wikipedia, just reverted into PNG). I would highly suggest that the next time you upload a distinct file for your timeline, you write the timeline in the file name as well.

I have reverted my edits and brought back your file, and I also renamed it for your timeline. Again, I do apologize. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:48, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Night of the Living Alternate History
I invite you to participate in the Night of the Living Alternate History. There are many nations still available, and we should be starting soon. Mscoree (talk) 17:26, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for that. Yet how did you know it was for apoc? Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:38, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Mononobe symbols
I don't speak Japanese, but some Mononobe symbols seem to be described here and here. Probably you could just use them? — Hellerick 10:40, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

New idea: Dystopian world
I have a new idea - the creation of dystopic world with a fork at the Battle of Midway (Victory of Japan). As a result, the Cold War poyalvyayutsya three parties - the Soviet Union, Japan and the U.S.. The Cold War ends in a draw. In Russia, the power take the ultranationalist forces led by Alexander Lebed. In the U.S. - Radical Republicans. In Japan - the regime more democratized. Be able to help with an idea? -Drako Jankovic 16:37, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Stuff
Well, I'll be busy with a couple of wars, and an uprising, but after that, sure! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:31, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

TSPTF
Imp got me thinking a bit yesterday about a few things - one of them was a few promotions.

So.... How would you like a promotion to Lieutenant? It basically would just mean you get blocking and deleting privileges.

Lordganon (talk) 11:04, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'll put the "paperwork" in to start the process tomorrow, then. Lordganon (talk) 13:22, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

I have it up - you can see it and accept it here. Lordganon (talk) 08:51, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
I just wanted to thank you for uploading File:908台灣國運動.svg and replacing the outdated version. Thank you again, you have been a big help. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:48, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

hey how do you do the timeline info box templates, i cant understand how to do it.

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 20:09, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

thank you so much :) im sick of my timelines always looking bad and i wanted my new one to look presentable.

thanks again

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 20:26, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hey! Remember your offer of an alliance? Well now I am in a position to accept as my nation is becoming stable again. So I will send some ships of the SOC to move northward of the Philippines, where they will first land in Chinese ports and trade. Then some will head out a bit north, and they will make "trading" contact with the Mononobes. Then a couple turns after that, I will ask you for an alliance, if you are ok with it. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:26, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Would you like to be a mod on The Failed Experiment (Map Game)? All nations are open. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 12:32, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yay! So yeah, I'll make sure it happens. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:36, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Satomi Maiden join
Hello, I just now discovered your Satomi Maiden timeline, and I must say it looks really cool.

And I was wondering, would it be possible for me to join the project as a collaborator and work with you on it?

I am a fan of Japanese history and culture and would be really happy to work with you on your project!

Redrose1994 (talk) 20:39, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union (PMII)
Hello, i am interested in gaining some of the land under your control around 東海道 (Tōkaidō). I have illustrated the land i wish to gain in the map below. What would you like in return for this land? I could offer substantial aid in colonising Western Australia when it becomes availiable if you wish? -Hailstormer 21:36, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Just out of curiousity, would you be willing to part with the extra islands below? I would be willing to reimburse you significantly if so. Also if you agree to this, not only will i keep Taoism and Shinto as the official religions on the islands, but i will also send missionaries preaching these faiths to the Koori Union mainland, and build religious buildings for them there in every Koori settlement. In terms of Australia, i have already colonised the entire eastern coast up until the Torres Strait, and i should warn you that by the time anyone can colonise Australia i will have colonised the northern coast of Australia up until OTL Darwin. So as an alternative i could help you colonise the northwest coast of Australia. Would you be willing to accept these terms? Hailstormer (talk) 23:00, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I shall put the proposal in this turn's post so it can be finalised by yourself. Hailstormer (talk) 12:34, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

I have posted for this turn now. Feel free to accept the proposal when ready. Hailstormer (talk) 20:17, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hello once again. I am interested if you would be willing to revive our deal under the same terms, but instead of purchase i shall trade a large sum of gold. Would you agree to this? If so, i shall have a group of traders fluent in Japanese, land at 東海道 (Tōkaidō) to propose the deal. Hailstormer (talk) 23:35, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

I have put up the deal, along with an offer for an alliance and membership of the Koori Trading Company. Feel free to reply when ready. Hailstormer (talk) 21:28, April 28, 2013 (UTC)



Please
Meet me on the wiki chat:

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat

I'm licensed to chill 14:43, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Please meet me there again:

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat

I'm licensed to chill 20:11, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Lieutenant in the TSPTF. I would like to spend sometime discussing those powers:


 * You should now notice a red button at the top of every article with the word "Delete". You can use this to delete articles, obviously. Use this power sparingly and always stay within the framework of the Deletion Policy. The policy itself was passed with little discussion, so if you have any suggestions or comments regarding it I would be glad to hear it.
 * You can also block users from editing. This can be done by clicking on the History page for articles or the Contributions tab on editor's user pages. Again, use this sparingly. This is our most destructive tool. We don't have a policy on this, but there is a general custom that has been followed: always assume good faith with edits (unless obviously vandalism), warn before blocking (try using the three strikes approach) and start with short block durations for first time offenders. Generally other administrators will not interfere with your decisions regarding blocks, as long as it appears fair on its face.
 * You will also notice a button on the top of every article that says "Protect". With this you can prevent certain people from editing a single article. The first level prevents anons and new users from editing an article. The second level limits editing only to administrators. Use this to prevent excessive vandalism or to prevent edit wars between users.
 * There are other obscure powers that are not used often. If you have any questions on those or the ones I mentioned above, feel free to ask me.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon (talk) 08:32, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Username
Your account to do as you wish with. Power to you. Lordganon (talk) 08:52, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

I see you got your name changed, lol. Although I was wondering why you didn't just get it changed to Kogasa? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:49, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Although this one is a lot easier to write and stuff. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:33, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re: kamchatka
yes, you can have kamchatka...although I do request that the Kurils be left a neutral area or an area of joint administration(them being the exit inot the pacific and whatnot), Or russia has unlimited passage on tht area wonce I reach the Pacific ocean-Lx (leave me a message) 15:15, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I certainly would need help on defining some Japanese boundaries and other stuff...Thanks for offering help! (222.65.4.225 14:33, May 5, 2013 (UTC))

Religious "Interview"
Hello Kogasa. For school, I have an assignment to interview someone of a different religion. Since you follow Shinto, you would be a unique interviewee for this project. Would you be willing to answer a few questions about your religion? LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:32, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

OK. LurkerLordB (Talk) 15:06, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

KTC Trade Council
The 1695 Trade Council meeting has begun (KTC Talk Page). Please add the opinions of your nation to the discussion. Hailstormer (talk) 13:54, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I have placed an offer to the Mononobe Shogunate to the Koori Grand Coalition. I would greatly appreciate it if you accept this. The KGC has the single point of that if any member state is invaded, all other member states will declare total war on the aggressor. Hailstormer (talk) 22:23, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I as well would like to remain peaceful. That is why i have created the KGC, as a deterent to any aggressive action towards ourselves. I cannot stress enough how much your membership would be appreciated. At current i have four members confirmed, and if peace is what you want, then membership of the KGC would be one of the best ways of preserving it. Hailstormer (talk) 23:02, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Answer
Just go ahead and delete them. Lordganon (talk) 05:29, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Can you come on chat? Want to give you an update. Hailstormer (talk) 13:52, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

We want the World of the Rising Sun back -85.56.39.255 19:25, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I'm in the process of rewriting the timeline. -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 May 10, 21:40 (CET)

Borders
I was thinking maybe a straight-line border at 56 degrees West longitude. That's just a tiny bit West of the OTL Chile-Argentina border, it gives me access to the Strait of Magellan, and my main interest is securing the Soouthen Coast (I'm planning on putting a principal city on the site of OTLPuerto Williams, Chile - which I am going to name Miyako Yagich in honor of our agreement :-). I have absolutely no interest in OTL Chile. I'm planning on expanding Northeast into OTL Argentine Patagonia for farmland, but honestly I'd like to get "boxed in" relatively quickly. My strategy for the 1700s is maritime and I think it will be very profitable for us both if I can pull it off, so I really don't mind you expanding to my North. I also have some short-term profits in mind that you are going to like - give me about ten years and you're going to like having the Selk'nam as trading partners. Also, if you're good with the Koori, I'd like to get them involved involved as well, and everyone's interests will be served, but I don't have contact with them. Commandante Lemming (talk) 17:07, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - just now responded becasue I was on an inernational flight yesterday. Look forward continuing our relations - may you be granted many guanacos! :-P Commandante Lemming (talk) 15:25, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Koori War
Hey Kogasa and Collie (I'm sending this to both of you),

There are too many players butting heads on the algorithm for the massive war. I propose that either one or both of you take over the algorithm and complete it while other players including mods are not allowed to influence the numbers. Is that ok? Scandinator (talk) 17:03, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: Japan
I noticed that in your sandbox you had made some plans in case the zombie apocalypse divided Japan. I think this is a good idea, and am wondering if you prefer that Japan be broken up. Mscoree (talk) 14:43, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. Mscoree (talk) 19:14, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

OK, OK, it's only that I liked it (An e-mail address of mine is named after Radio Activio 98.5) -212.104.175.253 18:18, May 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay. Anyway, thought I should let you know that I've restored most of the content from my old timeline here. Sorry if it's cluttered into a few pages, but at least everything is there. -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 May 21, 20:30 (CET)

I am the Rising Sun freak. Thank you very much *makes japanese bowing* -Ancapistan 20:50, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

I thought the post-war conference has already ensured that. Papua New Guinea and the Solomons are still yours. Scandinator (talk) 12:01, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Turn Posts
So, I know I asked you to post my turns, but can I also ask you to try and fight the algorithim for me? As long as Von and I are tied, all is well, but other than that, can you try to reiterate wat I had tried to say? After all, you are a mod. ;)

Here are my posts for when I am at war:
 * Wales continues fighting the Comchellak Republic in Caer Anial, and devotes all resources and a large amount of money to fighting the Muslims on the island. A process of interning Muslims in Caer Anial is begun, and large amounts are secretly killed systematically. Wales asks the Arabian Federation to reign in its vassal, and hopes that the two nations can get along despite their vassal.

Please post that each year we are at war. Feel free to give a positive update on the status of the war if we are winning.
 * Cornwall, York, Lincoln, Scotland, Brittany, Ulster, Connacht, Munster, and Leinster all send their troops and resources down to fight the Comchellak threat. Plans for unification of various vassal states are halted until the war stops.
 * The WTC hires mercenaries and uses its own troops to help fight down in Caer Anial. They also expand Aber Dinas by 3000 sq km, and De Mor Tir 3000 sq km along the coast of the mainland of Atlantia. Fulani expands by 10000 sq km to the north.

When we are not at war, he is the base post: There are a few differences that I would like each year. This goes by year after the war ends. Of course, you may not get this far. Finally, can you also post about us starting to acquire a new nation overseas. This will need to be a diplomatic acquisition. I would like to gain Myanmar. If this is alraeady taken, I would like Morocco. Morocco is currently courted by the Normans, so if you can do it in 1-2 turns, I'd be appreciative. This is really important, so if you can work this in, and hopefully have it all set up, I will be very appreciative. Reximus55 (talk) 12:47, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wales grows its military and economy. Trade grows back to pre-war levels, and even begins to exceed it. A huge supermajority of people can all speak Welsh, and a large portion of them are ethnically, if not fully culturally, Welsh. (Add your own stuff, like a cultural even or two here.)
 * Cornwall, York, Lincoln, Scotland, Brittany, Ulster, Connacht, Munster, and Leinster are all sent cultural ambassadors and tried to make more Welsh, although they are all Celtic. This actually makes it easier for them to gain Welsh culture, and the Welsh language, by practicality, is becoming a popular second language.
 * The   WTC  grows its trade back to levels before the war. (Add your own trade stuff here, if desired). They also expand Aber Dinas by 3000 sq km, and De Mor Tir 3000 sq km along the coast of the mainland of Atlantia.   Fulani  expands by 10000 sq km to the north.
 * Year 1 - Nothing.
 * Year 2 - Nothing
 * Year 3 - Cornwall merges with Wales.
 * Year 4 - Lincoln and York merge to form England.

Thanks?
Thank you for removing the Papua flag. I was in the middle of discussing this with the uploader. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:15, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

ISOT
Hello I have a new idea - the former Soviet republics from OTL 2010 ISOTed to the world of "1983: Doomsday" (in 2000). As a result, the League of Nations began to lead Russia. Can you help me? -Drako Jankovic 12:26, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

No, sorry. -Kogasa  2013 May 28, 15:20 (CET)

OK

Small-time PMII Question
Hey - wanted to check and see if you planned on expanding North on the West coast of OTL Tierra del Fuego. I'm respecting our border and would be totally fine if you expanded onto that land, but I noticed you are concentrating on mainland OTL Chile. So, if you don't want that land, I'd be happy to renegotiate the border and take it myself. Commandante Lemming (talk) 05:55, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Moderator
In the past few weeks you've been a great addition to NotLAH. You're a very plausible and responsible player, and I think you'd make a great addition to the moderator team. I ask you to consider signing up as a moderator or junior moderator. Mscoree (talk) 13:12, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Your application has been approved. Mscoree (talk) 14:21, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

korea
In PM2, Korea has been forced to be a German client state, and now the people are begining to grow tired of European influence and ask for your nations help in liberating Korea, your population alone would throw the odds in our favor in the algorithm, and if we win you will gain valuable trade deals and right of passage throughout Korea.

Please accept,

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:16, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey. Well, I have only returned to my house in the last 2 hours or so, so I have a lot of catching up to do in-game, lol. It is an interesting idea, although I think it is a bit too early in game. I would be willing for a dynastic union a few decades down the line, however. What do you think? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:57, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

About drawing map
What kind of program you had used to draw border lines in world map? Jordan Chang (talk) 14:34, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, can we restart SAR? Remove fuedual plague as a mod as his mod events are going nuts concerning nations and international afaris. -DeanSims 12:51, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

PM2 independent mod check
Hello, okay the latest large war has had its algorithm completed. In my mod position I have locked it and I deem it to be accurate and correct. To ensure there is no bias and the algorithm is correct, I'd like you and the other mods who are neutral in this war to check the algorithm to judge if it's correct. Thank you. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:42, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, if you could also contribute your opinion to the almost inevitable debate in the Mod check discussion, I'd appreciate it. If no such debate arises, then that'll be all. But if it does, I'd really like you to join in to help us reach a consensus on the issues which get discussed. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:55, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH Wu
I possibly would be leaving the wiki for 3 weeks, so before then I would like to ask you to post as Wu for me. Also, Wu is planning to conquer Manchuria and Mongolia, so I hope you can write that in the Wu posts and also do a algorithim.Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 17:24, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Candidate for Karikan Throne
Kingdom of Karika: We expand 10,000 km squared and build up military. The Queen dies at the age of 42 due to food poisoning, and with no heir the throne is up for election, and the National Assembly will take over ruling the nation until a new King can be chosen.

Karika wonders if you would like to be considered for the throne, upon your King/Queens death the throne will once again be up for election, since the National Assembly holds a large majority of power, basically its like the Russian Monarch, can be removed if the Assembly aproves.

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 21:55, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, you got to the user before I did. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:31, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'll try my best, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:39, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. May have missed a couple, but your nations are satill intact. So well, that it is one of the Superpower contenders in NotLAH. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:30, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey in PMII I was going to create a nazi germany and wanted to know if i can use http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/File:%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%84%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F.svg with a slight modifaction?Andr3w777 (talk) 00:37, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Furusato
Hello, Kogasa, it is me, FirstStooge, if you know anything about a Japanese children song called "Furusato" (故郷), can you give me some information the song? FirstStooge (talk) 13:44, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Now I understand why many people says this song is very sentimental FirstStooge (talk) 19:21, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

NotLAH: Trading Pact
Hey next turn on NotLAH I am planning to make a trading union with multiple nations such as Korea, the Commonwealth, the Federation of the Arabian Peninsula, and the United Kingdom. Because you're sort of the "Switzerland" of NotLAH and you never join any military based organizations, I am wondering if you are interested in joining this trading pact. Edboy452 (talk) 18:49, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Trade (NotLAH)
Would Japan trade with the AFR? I won't pull your nation into any military treaties or global organizations. Daeseunglim (talk) 19:58, July 22, 2013 (UTC)