Talk:2010 Europa Games: Team Sports (1983: Doomsday)

Medals
For most of these, the larger nations will likely be the ones that get medals - better pool of athletes to draw from.

Lordganon 07:37, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Football
Cleveland, the Alpine Confederation, and the Celtic Alliance were at the World Cup. Greece was in the qualifiers as well.

Really don't know where to go from there, though the smaller countries are realistically out of competition.

Lordganon 07:37, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

As for the men's competition=

24 teams = 8 groups of 3

Winner of each groups goes to the quarter-finals and so on Verence71 14:51, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Works. Assigning a number to each one, 1-24, and using the random.com number generator, I've come up with these groups:

Men's


 * One
 * Celtic Alliance
 * Northumbria
 * Spain
 * Two
 * Greece
 * Waldeck-Hesse
 * Genoa
 * Three
 * Essex
 * East Poland
 * Luxembourg
 * Four
 * Croatia
 * Duchy of Lancaster
 * East Britain
 * Five
 * Armenia
 * Karelia
 * Southern England
 * Six
 * Transylvania
 * North Germany
 * Cleveland
 * Seven
 * Alpine Confederation
 * Tuscany
 * Woodbridge
 * Eight
 * Rhineland Federation
 * Rhodope
 * Prussia

Women's


 * One
 * Croatia
 * Transylvania
 * East Britain
 * Two
 * Alpine Confederation
 * Georgia
 * Northumbria
 * Three
 * Celtic Alliance
 * Rhodope
 * Tuscany
 * Four
 * Rhineland Federation
 * Luxembourg
 * North Germany
 * Five
 * Duchy of Lancaster
 * Greece
 * Genoa
 * Six
 * Prussia
 * East Poland
 * Southern England
 * Seven
 * Cleveland
 * Woodbridge
 * Waldeck-Hesse
 * Eight
 * Essex
 * Karelia
 * Spain

Lordganon 05:19, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Group-winners, by my guess:


 * Mens:
 * One: Celtic Alliance
 * Two: Greece
 * Three: Luxembourg (half the Belgian team is from areas under their control atl, lol)
 * Four: Lancaster (again, a lot of the English team)
 * Five: Southern England
 * Six: Cleveland
 * Seven: Alpine Confederation
 * Eight: Rhineland Federation (must have been a third the national German team from this area! sheesh....)


 * Women's:
 * One: Transylvania
 * Two: Alpine Confederation
 * Three: Celtic Alliance
 * Four: North Germany (german team is... random for the most part.)
 * Five: Lancaster
 * Six: Prussia
 * Seven: Waldeck-Hesse (highest amount of the german team is here)
 * Eight: Spain

How's that look?

Lordganon 08:12, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Looks okay to me.Tessitore 11:45, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Basketball
I'm wondering if Woodbridge might do well in this event. The US won the men's and women's competition in 2008 and the sport is fairly popular in Woodbridge thanks to the former members of the USAF who helped to found the nation. Verence71 14:48, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Given recent otl history, I would also expect Spain, Croatia, Greece, a German state, a Russian state, and the Alpine confederation (many of the members of the Italian national team are from the north, so....) to also do well.

Two groups for each gender, of 6 teams each. The top 4 teams in each advance to the quarterfinals.

Divide them into two groups, maybe like this (Ones like/this are different by gender):


 * One:
 * Woodbridge (advance)
 * Croatia (advance)
 * Don/Kuban (Kuban advances in mens)
 * Luxembourg women advance)
 * Belarus(women advance)
 * Celtic Alliance (men advance)


 * Two:
 * Prussia (advances for women)
 * Cleveland/Waldeck-Hesse (Waldeck advances in mens)
 * Alpine Confederation (advance)
 * Spain (advance)
 * Greece (advance)
 * North Germany

So, which Russianish state (Don, Kuban, or Belarus), which German state (North Germany, Prussia, Waldeck-Hesse), and which other state would advance? Waldeck does have a fair amount of Americans, and otl German B-Ball players, given its location, if that helps. To a certain extent the same goes for Kuban and Luxembourg as well.

And to not have them be the same for both sides is a good idea too.

Lordganon 04:46, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking it's likely Waldeck-Hesse would go through if only because in OTL a team from Hesse, Geissen 46ers has been playing in the top tier of German basketball since 1966 Verence71 10:34, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh interesting. And that town survived.... hmmm. And like I said, a lot of the German national team seems to be from the area. I'd call it being narrowly over Prussia, though.

For the other men's spots, I would go with the Kuban and Celtic teams. And for the remaining women's spots, I'd suggest Prussia, Belarus, and Luxembourg (the women's teams in Britain and Ireland otl seem to be much worse than the men's).

Lordganon 07:28, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

So:


 * Men:
 * Waldeck-Hesse
 * Woodbridge
 * Croatia
 * Alpine Confederation
 * Spain
 * Greece
 * Kuban
 * Celtic Alliance
 * Women
 * Woodbridge
 * Prussia
 * Greece
 * Spain
 * Alpine Confederation
 * Croatia
 * Belarus
 * Luxembourg

Lordganon 21:36, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Field Hockey
On the same principles as the others, two groups of six for each gender, with the top 4 in each group advancing.


 * Mens
 * One
 * Luxembourg
 * Alpine Confederation
 * Belarus
 * Rhineland Federation
 * Kuban
 * Prussia
 * Two
 * Don
 * Celtic Alliance
 * Spain
 * Estonia
 * Karelia
 * North Germany
 * Womens
 * One
 * Prussia
 * Rhineland Federation
 * Spain
 * Celtic Alliance
 * Azerbaijan
 * Luxembourg
 * Two
 * Armenia
 * Crimea
 * Estonia
 * Alpine Confederation
 * Karelia
 * North Germany

Otl, Germany, the Netherlands, England, and Belgium have the best teams in Europe. Past that, eastern Europe is supposed to have better teams that the rest of the continent. "Ice Hockey nations" would likely also do better.

Lordganon 08:31, October 9, 2010 (UTC)