Talk:New Ottoman Empire (Map Game)

You could have the revolution having happened after the Italo-Turkish War (1911–12) or maybe the Balkan Wars (1912–13). Might work!! :D Imperium Guy 22:45, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

PoD
So the PoD is the Ottomans suffering a minor revolution before WW1, and Franz Ferdinand surviving, maybe because the bullet didn't hit him in the jugular. The problems I see are this.

1. The Austrians never really had much problem with the Italian front, because the terrain there is almost absurdedly biased towards the defense. The Germans launched an offensive there in a bid to knock Italy out of the war, not that the Italians did much anyway, or in an effort to cause the current Italian government to collapse and be replaced by one more favorable to peace.

2. The Ottoman didn't join the war until November 2. It was a calculated decision by the Young Turks that the Germans were bound to win, and so they could join the war, do nothing, and reap the spoils at the negotiating table. With the Ottoamsn not in the war, a revolution in Russia is actually less likely, since the supply lines through the Turkish Straits would still be open.

Just my thoughts Azecreth 13:50, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, with those lines open, it'd be virtually impossible to happen.

Add to that that the Bulgarians, without the Ottomans involved, would never have got into the war. The Serbs would literally have fought over every each and probably held out for the whole war, too, as a result.

Lordganon 13:56, October 17, 2011 (UTC)