Talk:Union Interim Parliament (1983: Doomsday)

Is anybody caretaking this page? I don't plan to adopt it but I was thinking of writing some WCRB news articles on it. Arstar 15:54, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like Mitro's the one who wrote it, so you'll need to ask him. Lordganon 21:00, December 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess I am the current caretaker, what are you looking to do Arstar? Mitro 16:55, December 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hopefully nobody would mind me editing this page as there has been no real activity on this page. Only going to add an Infobox. Imperium Guy 13:52, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I re-wrote it, so that it actually made sense, and so that there was some spelling and grammar to it. But, good start.

Lordganon 20:05, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I read it. Makes much more sense. Ta!! Imperium Guy 11:07, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

A Flag
Because of doomsday, would India's (U.I.P's) flag still be the same or would it have stars to show the amount of states in this loose federation. If it is the latter, could you have the flag in the style of the United States so instead of the red and white stripes, it would be orange white and green and the colour of the stars backround would be white and instead of the stars, it would be around 21 ashoka chakras. I'm asking you because I don't really know how to create flags. Ta!! Imperium Guy 16:00, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Likely, neither would be the case. Definitely not the second one, though.

First one, because it is a different government. The UIP, being entirely different, would more than likely want its own. The Second one, because it doesn't really represent India, and is an obvious edit of the American flag.

I'll think a bit and make one up.

Lordganon 18:31, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. With the map, it looks awesome (the nationinfo box). Whai do you think its emblem be? Would it still be the 4 lions because the breakup wouldn't really effect the emblem, would it? Ta! Imperium Guy 21:04, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think the emblem would indeed stay the same. It, as a symbol, pre-dates the independence movements by a couple thousand years. Lordganon 21:27, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm... came up with this guy. Might be a touch busy, though.



Lordganon 01:53, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I find that flag somewhat too busy, although the one I made is not much better, lol.

I came with this idea to emphasize the fact India's a loose federation now. I tried to make more of an EU-like flag and came up with this:



It's extremely makeshift and the circle is not good, but it emphasizes what I was trying to do. Assuming the UIP states remained as they are (I didn't find any change in either the India or the UIP page), I counted an approximate 16 states in the UIP, each represented with a dharmic wheel thingy. The middle one would represent the federal government or the wishes of unity or something else. Fed (talk) 03:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the India map is based on the state map for purposes of it being possible to actually get all the independent states put on it with real borders - don't hold the state lines as being there, as they wouldn't be. Plus, a number have been reconquered in the last couple years, and won't be members yet.

Elephants on mine can be removed very easily, as an fyi.

Lordganon 03:57, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I knew there wouldn't be 16, but I wanted to place the maximum possible in the flag. Remember that my flag example is entirely makeshift and only uploaded to reflect my ideas :P. Fed (talk) 04:14, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Both flags could be incorperated into each other. In the centre you might have a bigger central ashoka chakra, the one LG designed, with the smaller ones around it to show the amount of states and there could be 4 smaller elephants as 2 on the extreme edges of the saffron strip and 2 on the extreme egdes of the green.As an after thought, now many states has India conquered as the elephants could be used to show the conquered states! :) :) Imperium Guy 08:38, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

That sounds.... quite bad, to be honest, and busier than a freeway in rush hour. And, we don't know how many states there is, or how many have been taken. No way they would want to brag about conquering, either. Lordganon 10:34, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay then. It did seem slightly complicated to make that type of flag. Do you have any other flag ideas other than the one above? Imperium Guy 21:00, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

More, all variations.

A version of the first flag, without the elephants:



The same flag, but with a cobra, peacock, elephant, and tiger - the four animals on Indian symbols - around the chakra:



Same, but with four elephants:



With tigers:



With cobras:



With peacocks:



And, the first of the ones I'm posting right now, but with the lotus a different color:



Think the one with the 4 elephants is the best, myself. Thoughts?

Lordganon 03:14, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I would say it would be a draw between the tigers and elephants because both flags look kinda perfect. :) Imperium Guy 19:13, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Have to the elephants, then - the tiger one is, when you look at it bigger, not as good. Note that all the little bits around the chakra that stick out randomly are there for a reason.

As a comparison, blown up:

With elephants:



With tigers:



Lordganon 21:40, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ok then, the elephant one. :D Imperium Guy 20:46, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

India's Nuclear Weapons
In reading the article I had a question. Would it be correct to presume the UIP would be responsible for the nuclear weapons India possessed at the time? Unless I missed it, I don't believe India deployed their weapons and although some might have been lost and or stolen during the nation's break-up, I would imagine they would still be around. Just curious on the subject given we were all discussing the status of the world's nuclear arsenal some time back.--Fxgentleman 16:41, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

India, while in possession of nukes, actually had no real way to deploy them until the 1990s, short of burying them. According to my research, what they did have was kept in a heavily-reinforced bunker complex near Bombay.

I think we can safely assume that the UIP has them safe. They weren't used, so they should still be there, too.

Lordganon 19:35, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Editing!
I will be putting the "new" UIP flag in the nationinfo box. Hopefully, nobody minds!! :D Imperium Guy 17:07, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Do you think that negotiations between the Sri Lankans and the UIP could result in Unification? I'm sure the Sri Lankans would want to regain some lost pride and if they join, they could retain their identity, like the other states. They could form an organization like ANZC, which is made up of Australia, New Zealend and other countries. Hope u consider this. Ta!! :D Imperium Guy 17:29, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

They didn't do it otl, they woudln't do it here. There's a massive difference between the two, and great distrust. Lordganon 07:42, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. okay then. Imperium Guy 12:19, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Here's a map without the other countries. :D Imperium Guy 17:25, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

No way we use that, Imp. Kudos on the effort, but..... that looks really bad. Lordganon 00:21, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh well ;) The map could have different colours instead of the grey but I don't think that would change anything. No probs, the original map will not be changed!! :D Imperium Guy 09:01, December 2, 2011 (UTC)