Talk:Principia Moderni IV (Map Game)

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Algorithms—the hard part of map games. This is where all of them are placed. It is mandatory to follow all the rules and strictly follow the procedure, rules, and computation of an algorithm, both of which can be seen here. You can see every algorithm below.

It's vital that you use exactly this format when writing or computing an algorithm, as it helps organization tremendously.

Formatting
Name of War (Years of War) [Use Heading 2]

Front Name [Only use this if there is more front in the war] [Heading 3]


 * Year
 * Pre-War Stage
 * Side I Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Population:
 * War Exhaustion:
 * Casus Belli:
 * Government:
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Population:
 * War Exhaustion:
 * Casus Belli:
 * Government:
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle or Siege Name)
 * Side I Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size:
 * Location:
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size:
 * Location:
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Final Stage:
 * Side I Name
 * Cities Occupied:
 * Result:
 * Side I Name
 * Cities Occupied:
 * Result:
 * Overall Result:

Discussion [Heading 3]

Savoy/Ligura Campaign (1760 - 1762)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking):
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France:
 * Population: 84
 * Government: +7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  137 (120,000 professional Italians, 130,000 Conscripts)*1.2 = 164.4
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: -10
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France: 59.5
 * Army: +13.5 (Savoy's Max) + 45 (France's Force)
 * Navy:
 * Location: +13
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -12
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 278.4
 * Savoy/France: 210.5


 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking):
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France: 139
 * Population: 84
 * Government: +7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  137 (120,000 professional Italians, 130,000 Conscripts)
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: -10
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -13
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France: 59.5
 * Army: +13.5 (Savoy's Max) + 45 (France's Force)
 * Navy:
 * Location: +13
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -18
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 306
 * Savoy/France: 204.5

Battle of Nice


 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France: 166
 * Population: 84
 * Government: +7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  137 (120,000 professional Italians, 130,000 Conscripts)
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: -10
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -14
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France: 59.5
 * Army: +13.5 (Savoy's Max) + 45 (France's Force)
 * Navy:
 * Location: +13
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -11
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 304
 * Savoy/France: 216.5

Total Percentage: 422%

Second Savoy/Ligura Campaign

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France: 72
 * Population: 100
 * Government: 7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  +136 (120,000 professional Italian/Sicilian Soldiers, 130,000 conscripts)
 * Navy: N/A
 * Location: -10
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France
 * Army: +106
 * Navy:
 * Location: +16
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -10
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 316
 * Savoy/France: 273
 * Percentage: 116%

Invasion of Corsica

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League (Attacking):
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France
 * Population: 72
 * Government: 7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League (Attacking)
 * Army: 50
 * Navy: 10
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: 0
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France
 * Army: 4.5
 * Navy: 0.5
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -6
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 241.5
 * Savoy/France: 168.5
 * Percentage: 143.3%

Invasion of Sardinia

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France: 72
 * Population: 100
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League (Attacking)
 * Army: 50
 * Navy: 10
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -9
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France
 * Army: 4.5
 * Navy: 0.5
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -15
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 232.5
 * Savoy/France: 159.5
 * Percentage: 289.3% (From both battles)

Channel Coast Campaign

 * Pre- war stage (1760)
 * Coalition of the Willing (Attacking): 128
 * Population: +56
 * Government +6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France: 167
 * Population: 72
 * Government: +7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Taking of Le Harve Part 1
 * Britian: 3.5
 * Army size: 7
 * Location: -3.5
 * Blunder: 0
 * France: 4
 * Army: 0
 * Location: +4
 * Blunder: 0
 * Result: Brittish invasion is repulsed

Franco-Burgundian front

 * Pre-War stage
 * Burgundy: 116
 * Population: 50
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 30
 * Tech: 30
 * France: 166
 * Population: 100
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 30
 * Tech: 30


 * Battle of Calais
 * Burgundy: 53
 * Army size: 54 (60k pro, 40k unpro)
 * Navy size: 3 (60 ships)
 * Location: -3 (coast with naval superiority)
 * Blunder: -1
 * France: -.1
 * Army size: .9
 * Location: 4
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result: 102 % to Burgundy
 * Burgundy: 169
 * France: 165.9
 * Battle of Calais pt 2
 * Burgundy: 51
 * Army size: 54 (60k pro, 40k unpro)
 * Navy size: 3 (60 ships)
 * Location: -3
 * Blunder: -3
 * France: 2.9
 * Army size: .9
 * Location: 4
 * Blunder:-2
 * Result: 130% to Burgundy
 * Burgundy: 220
 * France: 168.8
 * Final result: 232% Burgundian victory, Calais falls.

Battle of Ales (1761)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * France:
 * Population: 72
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  +183
 * Navy: N/A
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -15
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France
 * Army: 6
 * Navy: N/A
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -6
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 353
 * France: 166
 * Percentage: 213%

North African Campaign (1761)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * France: 69.6
 * Population: 3.6
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  +28*1.6=44.8
 * Navy: 4*1.5=6
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -1
 * Attrition: N/A
 * France
 * Army: 0.3
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -13
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 235
 * France: 56.9
 * Percentage: 413%

Battle of Borinquen (1761)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League (Attacking): +149
 * Population: +64 (After penalties)
 * Government +15
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * France: 74
 * Population: 8
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  +28*1.6=44.8
 * Navy: 4*1.5=6
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -19
 * Attrition: N/A
 * France
 * Army: 0.3
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -15
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 216.8
 * France: 59
 * Percentage: 367.5%

Battle of Luanda (1761)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League (Attacking): +83.4
 * Population: +8.4 (after penalties)
 * Government +15
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * France: 69.6
 * Population: 3.6
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  +7*1.6=11.2
 * Navy: 4*1.5=6
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -10
 * Attrition: N/A
 * France
 * Army: 0.3
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -20
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 90.6
 * France: 49.9
 * Percentage: 182%


 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking): +83.4
 * Population: +8.4 (after penalties)
 * Government +15
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * France: 69.6
 * Population: 3.6
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Army:  +7*1.6=11.2
 * Navy: 4*1.5=6
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -20
 * Attrition: N/A
 * France
 * Army: 0.3
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -1
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results
 * Italian League: 80.6
 * France: 68.9
 * Percentage: 300%

Battle of Paris and Northern France (1761)

 * Pre-War stage
 * Italian League/Britain/Burgundy: 116
 * Population: 56
 * Government: 10
 * Economy: 30
 * Tech: 30
 * France: 166
 * Population: 72
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 30
 * Tech: 30


 * Battle of Paris 1
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League: 53
 * Army size: 265 (200,000 professional soldiers from Italian League, Sicily, Burgundy, and Britain, 250,000 conscripts from all three main nations)
 * Navy size:
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -1
 * France:
 * Army size: 72 (240,000 soldiers, more than half of France's manpower)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result:
 * Burgundy: 390
 * France: 205
 * Percentage: 190.2%
 * Battle of Paris 2
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League: 53
 * Army size: 265 (200,000 professional soldiers from Italian League, Sicily, Burgundy, and Britain, 250,000 conscripts from all three main nations)
 * Navy size:
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -1
 * France:
 * Army size: 72 (240,000 soldiers, more than half of France's manpower)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result:
 * Burgundy: 390
 * France: 205
 * Percentage: 380.4
 * Battle of Paris 3
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League: 53
 * Army size: 265 (200,000 professional soldiers from Italian League, Sicily, Burgundy, and Britain, 250,000 conscripts from all three main nations)
 * Navy size:
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -1
 * France:
 * Army size: 72 (240,000 soldiers, more than half of France's manpower)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result:
 * Burgundy: 390
 * France: 205
 * Percentage: 570.6

Second Franco-Burgundian Campaign (1762)

 * Pre-War stage
 * Italian League/Britain/Burgundy: 116
 * Population: 56
 * Government: 10
 * Economy: 30
 * Tech: 30
 * France: 166
 * Population: 72
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 30
 * Tech: 30


 * Battle of Auxerre (Eastern France)
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League: 53
 * Army size: 265 (200,000 professional soldiers from Italian League, Sicily, Burgundy, and Britain, 250,000 conscripts from all three main nations)
 * Navy size:
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -1
 * France:
 * Army size: 72 (240,000 soldiers, more than half of France's manpower)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result:
 * Burgundy: 390
 * France: 205
 * Percentage: 190.2%
 * Battle of Roanne (Eastern France)
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League: 53
 * Army size: 265 (200,000 professional soldiers from Italian League, Sicily, Burgundy, and Britain, 250,000 conscripts from all three main nations)
 * Navy size:
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -1
 * France:
 * Army size: 72 (240,000 soldiers, more than half of France's manpower)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result:
 * Burgundy: 390
 * France: 205
 * Percentage: 380.4
 * Battle of Nevers (Eastern France)
 * Burgundy/Britain/Italian League: 53
 * Army size: 265 (200,000 professional soldiers from Italian League, Sicily, Burgundy, and Britain, 250,000 conscripts from all three main nations)
 * Navy size:
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -1
 * France:
 * Army size: 72 (240,000 soldiers, more than half of France's manpower)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Result:
 * Burgundy: 390
 * France: 205
 * Percentage: 570.6

Capture of Nancy

 * Prewar Stage
 * Augsburg anf France (Attacking): 139
 * Population: +72
 * Government +7
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Burgundy: 122
 * Population: +56
 * Government: +6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage 1
 * France/Augsburg .5
 * Army: 3.5
 * Navy: 0
 * Location:
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Burgundy -1.1
 * Army: .9
 * Navy:
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Results 114%
 * France and Augsburg: 139.5
 * Burgundy: 121.9
 * Battle Stage 2
 * France/Augsburg -.5
 * Army: 3.5
 * Navy: 0
 * Location:
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Burgundy -3.1
 * Army: .9
 * Navy:
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results 115% (114%+115%) 229% Nancy falls
 * France and Augsburg: 138.5
 * Burgundy: 119.9

Discussion
Belka's numbers or population should not be added unless they post their contributions in-game. They are currently embroiled in lots of internal conflicts and a war with Nicaea. General534 (talk) 22:54, August 12, 2017 (UTC)

Here is the fixed algo for the first battle:


 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking): +185
 * Population: +100
 * Government +15
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France: 166
 * Population: 100
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies: 384
 * Army: +384 (120,000 professional Italian/Sicilian soldiers, 600,000 Italian/Sicilian conscripts)
 * Navy: 7.5
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Savoy/France: 59.5
 * Army: 58.5 [+13.5 (Savoy's Max) + 45 (France's Force)]
 * Navy: 1.5
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 569
 * Savoy/France: 225.5
 * Percentage: 252% to Italian League

General534 (talk) 08:54, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

For the record, the number of troops I sent in initially isn't my maximum amount, so I could just replace the Belkan troops with my own and get the same result. Or we can treat the Battle of Arles as being part of the same campaign, which would put the campaign at 466%. Gatthias (talk) 19:51, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

Arles is not even part of Savoy. Also, you are sending way too many troops to the French colonies to be able to reasonably use them in other campaigns. Your population score for Luanda should be 2.8, not 64. General534 (talk) 12:31, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

I've been expecting to see mountain penalties on the troop numbers deployed, as this includes some intrepid mountain crossing. The part of Italy for the Italian league only has 7 million people, not 14 million as the algo is saying. Also, even without the penalties its weilding a total of 1,236,000 troops at the same time (ignoring battles for the same troops in succession). There is no possible way of conscripting that much of the population within one year. Also, inasmuch as it is very difficult for Ravenna to attack Savoy by land, it is basically impossible to attack Borinquen and Luanda, which are in the Atlantic. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  22:11, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: In addition to the aforementioned problems (which are yet not resolved), there is no way that Ravenna, Britain, and Burgundy are ever in the same battle, and so all parts of the algo that have all three members of this already-implausible coalition in the same battle are completely invalid. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  04:02, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Molinari's Rebellion (1762)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Sicily
 * Population: 20
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +25


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies: 332
 * Army: 131 (80,000 professional troops, 150,000 conscripts, including allies)
 * Navy: 30
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Revolting Sicily: 54.5
 * Army: 15
 * Navy: 0 (The Sicilian navy was granted to the League in the Treaty of Naples and the navy is currently blockading France, so they wouldn't really have any ships at their disposal.)
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: +25
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 283
 * Savoy/France: 105


 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Sicily
 * Population: 20
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +25


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies: 332
 * Army: 131 (80,000 professional troops, 150,000 conscripts, including allies)
 * Navy: 30
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Revolting Sicily: 54.5
 * Army: 15
 * Navy: 0 (The Sicilian navy was granted to the League in the Treaty of Naples and the navy is currently blockading France, so they wouldn't really have any ships at their disposal.)
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: +25
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 283
 * Savoy/France: 105


 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Attacking)
 * Population: +56
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Sicily
 * Population: 20
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +25


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies: 332
 * Army: 131 (80,000 professional troops, 150,000 conscripts, including allies)
 * Navy: 30
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Revolting Sicily: 54.5
 * Army: 15
 * Navy: 0 (The Sicilian navy was granted to the League in the Treaty of Naples and the navy is currently blockading France, so they wouldn't really have any ships at their disposal.)
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: +25
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 283
 * Savoy/France: 105

808.571429%

Invasion of West Timor (1761)

 * Pre-war stage
 * Iberia: 70
 * Population: +3 (750,000 after penalties)
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * France: 70.6
 * Population: +3.6 (900,000 after penalties)
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30


 * Capture of Lifau
 * Iberia: 17.6
 * Army size: +3.6 (3,000 professional, 5,000 unprofessional)
 * Navy size: +13 (26 ships)
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder: 0
 * France: -2.7
 * Army size: +0.03 (100)
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder: -4
 * Result: Iberia captures Lifau (120%)


 * Capture of Kupang
 * Iberia: +9.1
 * Army size: +3.6 (3,000 professional, 5,000 unprofessional)
 * Navy size: +13 (26 ships)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Blunder: -4
 * France: +4.65
 * Army size: +0.15 (500)
 * Navy size: +3 (6 ships)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Blunder: -2
 * Result: Iberia captures Kupang (105% + 120% = 225%)

Invasion of the Maluku Islands (1761)

 * Battle of the Barat Daya Islands
 * Iberia: 5.5
 * Navy size: +5.5 (11 ships)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: 0
 * France: -2.5
 * Navy size: +1.5 (3 ships)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Result: Iberia captures the Barat Daya Islands (111%)


 * Battle of the Tanimbar Islands
 * Iberia: 2
 * Navy size: +2 (4 ships)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: 0
 * France: -2
 * Navy size: +2 (4 ships)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Result: Iberia captures the Tanimbar Islands (105% + 111% = 216%)


 * Capture of Ambon
 * Iberia: 26
 * Army size: +10.5 (15,000)
 * Navy size: +23 (46 ships)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Blunder: -4
 * France: 8.8
 * Army size: +0.3 (1,000)
 * Navy size: +5 (10 ships)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Blunder: 0
 * Result: Decisive victory (128% + 216% = 344%); Iberia captures Ambon

Savu Sea (1762)

 * Pre-war stage
 * Iberia: 70
 * Population: +3 (750,000 after penalties)
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * France: 70.6
 * Population: +3.6 (900,000 after penalties)
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30


 * Battle of Savu
 * Iberia & native allies:
 * Army size: +0.23 (780)
 * Navy size: +1 (2 ships)
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder: -4
 * France & native allies:
 * Army size: +0.18 (612)
 * Navy size: +4 (8 ships)
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder: -16
 * Result: Savu Island falls out of French control (114%)


 * Battle of Alor
 * Iberia: -3
 * Navy size: +4 (8 ships)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -7
 * France: -5
 * Navy size: +3 (6 ships)
 * Location: 0
 * Blunder: -8
 * Result: Iberia captures Alor (102% + 114% = 216%)


 * Battle of Solor
 * Iberia: 1.53
 * Army size: +0.7 (1,000)
 * Navy size: +1 (2 ships)
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder: -5
 * France & native allies: 2.56
 * Army size: +0.06 (219)
 * Navy size: +1.5 (3 ships)
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder: -15
 * Result: Iberia captures the Solor Archipelago (116% + 216% = 332%)

Decisive battle near the coast

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: reconquest
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Greesaya Province (Defending)
 * Result: 80
 * Population: +10 (2.5 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Fighting for Independence
 * Government: +10(assumed absolute monarchy thats how i left them)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Decisive Battle open field)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +150
 * Army/Navy Size:   (300,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: 0 Decisive Battle
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 56.5
 * Army/Navy Size: 45,000
 * Location: 0 (decisive)
 * Great General: +25
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 289
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * Ionia: 136.5
 * Cities Occupied: Smyrna, Nicaea
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 211%

Second battle

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: reconquest
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Greesaya Province (Defending)
 * Result: 80
 * Population: +10 (2.5 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Fighting for Independence
 * Government: +10(assumed absolute monarchy thats how i left them)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Decisive Battle open field)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +150
 * Army/Navy Size:   (300,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: 0 Decisive Battle
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 56.5
 * Army/Navy Size: 45,000
 * Location: 0 (decisive)
 * Great General: +25
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 289
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * Ionia: 136.5
 * Cities Occupied: Smyrna, Nicaea
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 211% +211% = 422%

Third Italian Occupation of Savoy (1763) [LOCKED]
Battle of Turin
 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League (Attacking): +105.6
 * Population: +35.6
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Savoy/France (Defending): +128
 * Population: +72
 * Government: +6
 * Tech: +25
 * Eco: +25

Battle of Corsica 110% to France
 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League: +56.6
 * Army: +50+56=106*1.2 = 127.2 (80,000 trained and 120,000 conscripted)
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: -10 (Capital in Hostile Mountains)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: 50%
 * Savoy/France: +90
 * Army: +6+70
 * Navy: 0
 * Location: +16 (Capital in friendly mountains)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 151.6(*.75) = 113.7
 * Savoy/France: 218
 * Result: France wins by 179%, and forced the invaders out of Savoy. Ravenna loses 35k troops, Savoy/France loses 14k.
 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League: 20
 * Army: 21*1.2 = 25.2 (30,000 professional troops)
 * Navy: 3
 * Location: 0 (deserted area)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * France/Savoy: 46
 * Army: 35 (50,000 professional troops)
 * Navy: 2.5+2.5 = 5
 * Location: +10 (at landing site)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 120
 * Savoy/France: 132

Battle of Sardinia

112% to France/Savoy
 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies: -1
 * Army: 0
 * Navy: 3
 * Location: 0 (deserted area)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Revolting Savoy: 25
 * Army: 14 (20,000 trained troops)
 * Navy: 2.5+2.5 = 5
 * Location: +10 (at landing site)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 99
 * Savoy/France: 111

Discussion
Italy's population was updated. I can understand populations changing from OTL in certain regions (as I did in the Middle East), but having italy almost the same as France is unacceptable in my book. IL was agreed to be Parliamentary Monarchy by the mods unanimously, so not able to raise the full troops requested. Attrition had to be added for Turin as every battle in that same location has been given the attrition.

Navies can't be used in that extreme, as 600 ships in one battle is not reasonable. I was assuming regular navies for both, but modern navies are even more restricted, so that wouldn't change the outcome. In order to use the troops the Italian Leage brought to Corsica and Sardinia, I had to move the location to the landing site, because otherwise the battle would have been entirely at sea and the troops would be useless.

Overall, I am only updating this algo because it is too much of a mess to change every single battle posted for the war. I already listed my problems with those algos above, but because they were never fixed (and because the implausible coalition complicated things so much), I resorted to settling an end to the war that made the most sense, allowing Burgundy and Britain the ports they attacked, and breaking its Italian control as a way to appease the IL. Everything else given to Burgundy and Britain  (which is pretty tiny compared to France' vast colonial empire)  was just helping to take them out of the war so it could concentrate on Savoy, and the amout offered to IL was farily representative as well.

Once Burgundy and Britain were out of the war, It was a lot easier to finish the algo, now its mainly just between the IL and France. Therefore, I ignored all the previous algos which were invalid and essentially started (and finished) the war here. In reality, all of the changes i listed above would apply to the algos for the rest of the war, which would have resulted in status quo (as I was earlier trying to explain), but I am being very generous to those involved to allow the "coalition" to score some points on France anyway.

I'm locking this from players, so I ask the algo expert Feud to check this to see if there is anything else missing. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  02:48, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Battle I

 * Prewar stage
 * Jin dynasty (attacking) - +118
 * Population - +50 (195 million; capped)
 * Government - +8 (Celestial Empire)
 * Economy - +30 (Tier V)
 * Technology - +30 (Tier V)


 * Mongolia (defending) - +18
 * Population - +3 (750k)
 * Government - +5 (Tribal)
 * Economy - +5 (Tier I)
 * Technology - +5 (Tier I)


 * Battle stage
 * Jin dynasty (attacking) - +15.3
 * Army - +15 (50,000)
 * Location - +2 (near populated border)
 * GL/GG/GA - +0 (N/A)
 * Blunder - -0
 * Attrition - -10% (7; light winter)


 * Mongolia (defending) - +2.25
 * Army - +2.25 (7,500)
 * Location - +2 (near populated border)
 * GL/GG/GA - +0 (N/A)
 * Blunder - -2


 * Casualties
 * Jin dynasty (attacking)
 * 50,000 * 0.02 = 1,000 casualties (49,000 survivors)
 * Mongolia (defending)
 * 7,500 * 0.75 = 5,625 casualties (1,875 survivors)


 * Final stage
 * Jin dynasty (attacking) - (118 + 15.3) = +133.3
 * Mongolia (defending) - (18 - 2.25) = +17.75

750.98% in-favour of Jin dynasty (Tier III)

Battle II

 * Prewar stage
 * Jin dynasty (attacking) - +118
 * Population - +50 (195 million; capped)
 * Government - +8 (Celestial Empire)
 * Economy - +30 (Tier V)
 * Technology - +30 (Tier V)


 * Mongolia (defending) - +18
 * Population - +3 (750k)
 * Government - +5 (Tribal)
 * Economy - +5 (Tier I)
 * Technology - +5 (Tier I)


 * Battle stage
 * Jin dynasty (attacking) - -5.83
 * Army - +14.7 (49,000)
 * Location - +2 (near populated border)
 * GL/GG/GA - +0 (N/A)
 * Blunder - -20
 * Attrition - -10% (7; light winter) (increase due to negative value)


 * Mongolia (defending) - -13.75
 * Army - +2.25 (1,875)
 * Location - +2 (near populated border)
 * GL/GG/GA - +0 (N/A)
 * Blunder - -18


 * Casualties
 * Jin dynasty (attacking)
 * Minimal casualties
 * Mongolia (defending)
 * Army wiped out


 * Final stage
 * Jin dynasty (attacking) - (118 - 5.83) = +112.17
 * Mongolia (defending) - (18 - 13.75) = +4.25

2,639.29% in-favour of Jin dynasty

Total War Score: 750.98% + 2,639.29% (Ultimate Tier)

Result

 * Mongolia is annexed as commandery (under military administration)

Maghreb's Attack on the Italian League (1762 - 1765)

 * Prewar Stage
 * Italian League/Allies: 128
 * Population: +56
 * Government +12
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Maghreb: 96
 * Population: 50
 * Government: 6
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20

Maghrebi Siege of Tunis


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Defending)
 * Army: 7
 * Navy: N/A
 * Location: 9
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb (Attacking)
 * Army: 6
 * Navy:
 * Location: -8
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 144
 * Savoy/France: 94
 * Pecentage: 153% to the League (Maghreb is repulsed)

Italian Counterattack (1765)


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies
 * Army: 20
 * Navy: 5
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb
 * Army: 12
 * Navy:
 * Location: 0
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 153
 * Savoy/France: 108
 * Pecentage: 142%

Italian Counterattack II (1765)


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Defending)
 * Army: 20
 * Navy: 5
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb (Attacking)
 * Army: 12
 * Navy:
 * Location: 0
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 153
 * Savoy/France: 108
 * Pecentage: 284%

Italian Counterattack III (1765)


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Defending)
 * Army: 20
 * Navy: 5
 * Location: 0
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb (Attacking)
 * Army: 12
 * Navy:
 * Location: 0
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 153
 * Savoy/France: 108
 * Pecentage: 426%

Italian Assault on Tripoli (1765)


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Defending)
 * Army: 40*1.2= 48
 * Navy: 5
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb (Attacking)
 * Army: 6
 * Navy:
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 178
 * Savoy/France: 106
 * Pecentage: 168%

Italian Assault on Tripoli II (1765)


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Defending)
 * Army: 40*1.2= 48
 * Navy: 5
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb (Attacking)
 * Army: 6
 * Navy:
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 178
 * Savoy/France: 106
 * Pecentage: 336%

Italian Assault on Tripoli III (1765)


 * Battle Stage
 * Italian League/Allies (Defending)
 * Army: 40*1.2= 48
 * Navy: 5
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Maghreb (Attacking)
 * Army: 6
 * Navy:
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Results
 * Italian League: 178
 * Savoy/France: 106
 * Pecentage: 504%

Overall Result: The Treaty of Jerba is signed.

Battle of Ankara

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Rum (Defending)
 * Result: +63.8
 * Population: +18.8 (4.7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +5 Itqa
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of Ankara)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +95.5
 * Army/Navy Size:+75   (150,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -4.5 Decisive Battle
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 5.8
 * Army/Navy Size: 11,750
 * Location: +12  (Capital)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 234.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Rum:81.6
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 287%

Second battle

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Rum (Defending)
 * Result: +63.8
 * Population: +18.8 (4.7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +5 Itqa
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of Ankara)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +95.5
 * Army/Navy Size:+75   (150,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -4.5 Decisive Battle
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 5.8
 * Army/Navy Size: 11,750
 * Location: +12  (Capital)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 234.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Rum:81.6
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 287%+287% = 574

Battle of Sinope

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Rum (Defending)
 * Result: +63.8
 * Population: +18.8 (4.7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +5 Itqa
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of Sinop)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +96.5
 * Army/Navy Size:+75   (150,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 9.8
 * Army/Navy Size: 11,750
 * Location: +4  (Capital)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 235.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Rum: 73.6
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 319%

Second Battle of Sinop

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Rum (Defending)
 * Result: +63.8
 * Population: +18.8 (4.7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +5 Itqa
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of Sinop)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +96.5
 * Army/Navy Size:+75   (150,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 9.8
 * Army/Navy Size: 11,750
 * Location: +4  (Capital)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 235.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Rum: 73.6
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 319%+319 = 638%

Battle of Eskisehir

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Rum (Defending)
 * Result: +63.8
 * Population: +18.8 (4.7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +5 Itqa
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of Sinop)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +96.5
 * Army/Navy Size:+75   (150,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 9.8
 * Army/Navy Size: 11,750
 * Location: +4  (Capital)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 235.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Rum: 73.6
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 319%

Second Battle

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Rum (Defending)
 * Result: +63.8
 * Population: +18.8 (4.7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +5 Itqa
 * Tech: +20
 * Eco: +20
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of Sinop)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +96.5
 * Army/Navy Size:+75   (150,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result: + 9.8
 * Army/Navy Size: 11,750
 * Location: +4  (Capital)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka 235.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Rum: 73.6
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 319%+319%

First Battle of the Frontier

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: +95
 * Population: +28 (7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of of the Frontiers)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size:255
 * +56 (pro troops) +210 (conscripts)   (420,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: 0 Decisive Battle
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -15
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 35
 * Army/Navy Size: +52 (104,000)
 * Location: 0  (Decisive)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -17
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +390
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Austria: +130
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 300% decisive

Second Battle of the Austrian Frontier

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: +95
 * Population: +28 (7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle of of the Frontiers)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size:+56 (pro troops) +210 (conscripts)   (420,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: 0 Decisive Battle
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -15
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 52
 * Army/Navy Size: +52 (104,000)
 * Location: 0  (Decisive)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -17
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +405
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Austria: +147
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Overall Result: 300% +300% = 600% (note blunders are still needed but wont likely change the outcome of the battles much.)
 * Belkan forces seize much of the austrian frontiers and their associated towns. also note, all casualties in these battles are presumed to be reinforced due to the manpower reserves of both nations being able to handle it for the second algo. Austrian Army is practically sliced in half.

Battle of Vienna

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: +95
 * Population: +28 (7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Vienna)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size:+56 (pro troops) +210 (conscripts)   (420,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Vienna
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -1
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 52
 * Army/Navy Size: +26 (52,000)
 * Location: +12  (Vienna)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +424.5
 * Cities Occupied: Gors, minor towns
 * Result:
 * Austria: +129
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Main result:329% Viennas fortifications are breached, and Beachheads are set up across the city to finish the battle.

Finishing the siege of Vienna

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: +95
 * Population: +28 (7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Vienna)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size:+56 (pro troops) +210 (conscripts)   (420,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Vienna
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -1
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 34
 * Army/Navy Size: +26 (52,000)
 * Location: +12  (Vienna)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +424.5
 * Cities Occupied: Gors, minor towns
 * Result:
 * Austria: +129
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Main result:329%x2 Vienna is finally taken and the city firmly under Belkan control

Belkan Siege of Munich

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: +95
 * Population: +28 (7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Vienna)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size:+242.5  (450,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Munich
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 32
 * Army/Navy Size: +26 (52,000)
 * Location: +8  (Vienna)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +405
 * Cities Occupied: Gorz, minor towns
 * Result:
 * Austria: +127
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Main result: 318%, the Belkan Forces slam through the defenses of Munich and lock the fringes of the city down.

Final battle for Munich

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: +95
 * Population: +28 (7 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Vienna)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size:+242.5  (450,000 Conscripts)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Munich
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 32
 * Army/Navy Size: +26 (52,000)
 * Location: +8  (Vienna)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +405
 * Cities Occupied: Gorz, minor towns
 * Result:
 * Austria: +127
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Main result: 318%x2, the Belkan forces obliterate the defenders of Munich and officially declare the Kingdom of Bavaria a free entity under a pro belkan king.

Central Italy

 * 1764/5
 * Papal States: 46
 * ​Population:  16-0 = 16 (4 million roughly)
 * Government: +5 (Theocracy)
 * Economy: 10 (Tier III)
 * Technology: 15 (Tier IV)


 * Italian League (Defending): +105.6
 * Population: +35.6
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle or Siege Name)
 * Papal States (Attacking)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 28.8 (Papal States' Max number of troops, although Cal feel free tweak)
 * Location: -8
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 134 (Max professional troops from Italian League and Sicily, plus 100,000 conscripts)
 * Location: 9
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Final Stage:
 * Papal States: 66.8
 * Italian League: 248.6
 * Percentage: 27% to Papal States (or 372.2% to Italian League)

French Intervention in Ligura

 * 1766
 * France
 * ​Population:  72
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: 30
 * Technology: 30


 * Italian League (Defending)
 * Population: +35.6
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle or Siege Name)
 * France (Attacking)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 30 (As per France's turn)
 * Location: -8
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Italian League (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 62 (Ligura's max plus half of the Italian professional soldiers)
 * Location: 9
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Final Stage:
 * France: 160
 * Italian League: 176.6
 * Percentage: 90% to France (or 110.4% to Italian League)

Lombard Campaign

 * 1766/7
 * Papal States: 46
 * ​Population:  16-0 = 16 (4 million roughly)
 * Government: +5 (Theocracy)
 * Economy: 10 (Tier III)
 * Technology: 15 (Tier IV)


 * Italian League (Attacking): +105.6
 * Population: +35.6
 * Government +10
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle or Siege Name)
 * Papal States (Attacking)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 28.8 (Papal States' Max number of troops)
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 134 (Max professional troops from Italian League and Sicily, plus 100,000 conscripts)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Final Stage:
 * Papal States: 78.3
 * Italian League: 236.1
 * Percentage: 302%


 * Battle Stage
 * (Battle or Siege Name)
 * Papal States (Attacking)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 28.8 (Papal States' Max number of troops)
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Side II Name (Attacking or Defending)
 * Result:
 * Army/Navy Size: 134 (Max professional troops from Italian League and Sicily, plus 100,000 conscripts)
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General:
 * Blunder:
 * Attrition:
 * Final Stage:
 * Papal States: 78.3
 * Italian League: 236.1
 * Percentage: 604%

Discussion
I did an algorithm for the initial skirmishes in central Italy, presumably there would be a second battle/front in the north with French involvement. Gatthias (talk) 19:50, August 18, 2017 (UTC)

Prewar Stage

 * Russia: +120
 * Population: +68
 * Government: +12
 * Economy: +10
 * Technology: +30
 * Poland:  +86
 * Population: +40
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +10
 * Technology: +30

Battle Stage

 * Battle of Warsaw 1767
 * Russia: +88.5
 * Army size: +106
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A 
 * Blunder:  -14
 * Poland:  +8
 * Army size: +18
 * Navy size: naval score (actual navy)
 * Location: +4
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -14

Final Stage

 * Russia: 208.5
 * Poland: 94
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1 victory at 221%. Victory for Russia, Poland looses 9,000 men, Russia looses 30,000 Men.

Battle Stage

 * Second Battle of Warsaw 1767
 * Russia: +34
 * Army size: +57.5
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A 
 * Blunder:  -20
 * Poland:  +1.2
 * Army size: +10.2
 * Navy size: naval score (actual navy)
 * Location: +4
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -13

Final Stage

 * 'Russia: 122.5
 * Poland: 87.2
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 2 victory at 361%. Victory for Russia, Poland looses 15,300 men, Russia looses 30,000 Men. 243,000 Russians left, 35,700 Polish left.

Belkan Invasion of Bohemia

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Bohemia (Defending)
 * Result: +87
 * Population: +20 (5 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Prague)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size: +210  (420,000 Conscripts) +56 (80,000 Professionals)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Prague
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Austria (Defending)
 * Result: + 32
 * Army/Navy Size: +160 (300,000)
 * Location: +12  (Prague)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +427
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * Austria: +247
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * 147% victory, Belka and the HRE forces fight to a stalemate in favor in Belka.

Belkan Invasion of Bohemia

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Bohemia (Defending)
 * Result: +87
 * Population: +20 (5 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Prague)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size: +210  (420,000 Conscripts) +56 (80,000 Professionals)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Prague
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Bohemia (Defending)
 * Result: + 32
 * Army/Navy Size: +160 (300,000)
 * Location: +12  (Prague)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +427
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * HRE: +247
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * 147% victory x2 Belkan forces force the HRE forces back for a decent amount.

Belkan Invasion of Bohemia

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Bohemia (Defending)
 * Result: +87
 * Population: +20 (5 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: defending territory
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Prague)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +266
 * Army/Navy Size: +210  (420,000 Conscripts) +56 (80,000 Professionals)
 * Location: -4.5 Siege of Prague
 * Great General: +25 (Justinian)
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Bohemia (Defending)
 * Result: + 32
 * Army/Navy Size: +160 (300,000)
 * Location: +12  (Prague)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +427
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * HRE: +247
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * 147% x3 victory, Belkan forces decivisely break the HRE army and force them out of Bohemia.

Belkan Defense against Poland

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +139
 * Population: +67 (16.75 mil)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: Invasion
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Poland (Defending)
 * Result: +103
 * Population: +36 (9 million)
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Casus Belli: alliance help
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Battle Stage
 * (Siege of Prague)
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Result: +
 * Army/Navy Size: +75 (150,000)
 * Location: +8 (Iasi)
 * Great General:
 * Blunder: -3
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Poland(Attacking)
 * Result: + 18.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +25 (50,000)
 * Location: -4.5  (Iasi)
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: -2
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +219
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * Poland: +121.5
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:180%

Iberian invasion of Sardinia (1770)

 * Pre-war stage
 * Iberia: 127
 * Population: +60
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * Sardinia: 21.6
 * Population: +1.6 (400,000 is my estimate)
 * Government: +5
 * Economy: +5
 * Technology: +10


 * Battle of Cagliari
 * Iberia: -0.5
 * Army size: +7 (10,000)
 * Location: -4.5
 * Blunder: -3
 * Sardinia: 1.9
 * Army size: +0.9 (3,000)
 * Location: +12
 * Blunder: -11
 * Result: Crushing decisive victory (538%), Cagliari is captured
 * War result: Sardinia is made a vassal of Iberia

Prewar Stage

 * Empire of Uluru: 60
 * ​Population: 32 (8 million)
 * Government: 6 (absolute feudal)
 * Economy: 5 (Tier II)
 * Technology: 5 (Tier II)
 * ​Yolgnu Kingdom: 13
 * ​Population: 2 (500,000)
 * Government: 5 (tribal)
 * Economy: 3 (Tier I)
 * Technology: 3 (Tier I)

Battle Stage

 * Battle of the Arhnem (1768)
 * Uluru: 19.2
 * ​Army size: 19.2 (80,000)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 0 (wilderness)
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: blunder score
 * Yolgnu: 1.5
 * ​Army size: 1.5 (1,000)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 0 (wilderness)
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: blunder score

Final Stage

 * Uluru: 60+19.2=79.2
 * tribes: 13+1.5=14.5
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 3 (546%), crushing victory forces Yolgnu as a vassal

Belkan Assault of Venice

 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Population: +68 (17.12 mil)
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Italian League: (Defending)
 * Population: +56 (Added all the vassals/protectorates)
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Army/Navy Size: +110 (consc) +56 (max prof) (300,000)
 * Location: -6
 * Great General:
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * League(Defending)
 * Army/Navy Size: +192 (The professional army that was already stationed in northern Italy; 60,000, plus the 300,000 conscripts that Feud added himself)
 * Location: +8
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +300
 * Cities Occupied: N/A
 * Result:
 * League: +323
 * Cities Occupied: none of note
 * Result:
 * Total Result: 92.9% (108% to League)

Belkan Assault on Trento

 * Belka,Austria,Czechia,Bavaria (Attacking)
 * Population: +100 (29 mil)
 * Government +12 (Republican Dictatorship)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30
 * Italian League: (Defending)
 * Population: +56
 * War Exhaustion: 0
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy)
 * Tech: +30
 * Eco: +30


 * Battle Stage
 * Belka (Attacking)
 * Army/Navy Size: +75
 * Location: -6
 * Great General:
 * Blunder: N/A
 * League(Defending)
 * Army/Navy Size: +100
 * Location: +8
 * Great General: N/A
 * Blunder: N/A
 * Attrition: N/A


 * Final Stage:
 * Belka  +240
 * League: +231


 * Total Result: 103.9% to Belka

Discussion
Most of these algorithms are incorrect. You don't include the proper locations for fortified or geography, you don't include Sicily or any of the other vassals, in terms of population or troops, and you aren't supposed to have a great general. Gatthias (talk) 00:07, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

I just checked with Scraw and he said you don't have a great general. Also you never did an algo for Tunis. Gatthias (talk) 00:12, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Prewar Stage

 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 130
 * ​Population: +100 (46,000,000)
 * Government: +5 (Iqta)
 * Economy: +15 (Tier IV)
 * Technology: +10 (Tier III)
 * ​Persia: 62
 * ​Population: +52 (13,000,000)
 * Government: +5 (Iqta)
 * Economy: +10 (Tier III)
 * Technology: +7 (Tier II)

Battle Stage

 * Invasion of Bandar Bushehr (1774)
 * Jaffarid Sultanate: -2.5
 * ​Army size: +10 (20,000 conscripted)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -2.5 (Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority | Near a major river or the coast)
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -9
 * Persia: +10.5
 * ​Army size: +14 (40,000 trained)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: +4.5 (Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority | Near a major river or the coast)
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -8

Final Stage

 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 128.5
 * Persia: 72.5
 * Final Result: Tier 0, distraction successfully displaces the general military of Persia.

Battle Stage

 * Invasion of Bandar Abbas (1774)
 * Jaffarid Sultanate: -7.5
 * ​Army size: +10 (20,000 conscripted)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -2.5 (Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority | Near a major river or the coast)
 * Great leader: bonus scores or N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -15
 * Persia: +3.5
 * ​Army size: +14 (40,000, trained)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: +4.5 (Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority | Near a major river or the coast)
 * Great leader: bonus scores or N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -15

Final Stage

 * Attacker name: 140
 * Defender name: 76
 * Final Result: Tier 0, distraction successfully displaces the general military of Persia.

Battle Stage

 * Invasion of Kish (1774)
 * Jaffarid Sultanate: +10
 * ​Army size: +10 (20,000 conscripted)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -2.5 (Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority | Near a major river or the coast)
 * Great leader: bonus scores or N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -16
 * Persia: +14
 * ​Army size: +14 (40,000, trained)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: +4.5 (Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority | Near a major river or the coast)
 * Great leader: bonus scores or N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -13

Final Stage

 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 140
 * Persia: 76
 * Final Result: Tier 0, distraction successfully displaces the general military of Persia.

Battle Stage

 * Invasion of lesser known villages (1774)
 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 130
 * ​Army size: +135 (50,000 trained | 200,000 conscripted)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -3 (Normal attacking)
 * Great leader: N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -2
 * Persia: 7.3
 * ​Army size: +.3 (1,000 untrained)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: +7 (Mountains)
 * Great leader: N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: 0

Final Stage

 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 260
 * Persia: 69.3
 * Final Result: 375% (Tier 2) including Final Stage numbers. 1780% excluding Final Stage Numbers (Ultimate Tier), surrendering of the army upon arrival. Sacking of the villages take place before arriving at Tehran.

Battle Stage

 * Siege of Tehran (1774)
 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 106
 * ​Army size: +135 (50,000 trained | 200,000 conscripted)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -18 (Besieging a center of government/very well-fortified city | Mountain capital)
 * Great leader: N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -11
 * Persia: 23
 * ​Army size: +15 (50,000 untrained)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: +28 (Besieging a center of government/very well-fortified city | Mountain capital)
 * Great leader: N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -20

Final Stage

 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 236
 * Persia: 85
 * Final Result: 277% (Tier 1) Occupation of some of Tehran. Main government has not capitulated, but their army begins to retreat to the edge of Tehran.

Battle Stage

 * Second Siege of Tehran (1774)
 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 92.45
 * ​Army size: +117.45 (43,500 trained | 174,000 conscripted)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -18 (Besieging a center of government/very well-fortified city | Mountain capital)
 * Great leader: N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -7
 * Persia: 24.75
 * ​Army size: +12.75 (42,500 untrained)
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: +28 (Besieging a center of government/very well-fortified city | Mountain capital)
 * Great leader: N/A (leader name)
 * Blunder: -16

Final Stage

 * Jaffarid Sultanate: 222.45
 * Persia: 86.75
 * Final Result: 277% + 256% = 533% (Tier 3) Occupation of all of Tehran. Main government has capitulated and the army has surrendered, allowing for occupation of Persia.

Discussions
This is too quick. Nobody can take down Iran so quickly and do two sieges of the same city in the same year. They are conducted in different years. Also you are having way too many battles using the same force. Germany required more than a week to reach Paris with an armored motorized push, even such a force will not be able to reach Tehran in a matter of days, traversing the harsh terrain and all. This is not possible in the realm of plausibility.

DrDrake346 (talk) 15:45, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

Prewar Stage

 * Uluru: 38.1
 * ​Population: 34*0.65 (other continent) = 22.1 (8 million)
 * Government: 6 (absolute feudal)
 * Economy: 5 (Tier II)
 * Technology: 5 (Tier II)
 * Ququququ: 21.4
 * ​Population: +0.4(100,000)
 * Government: +6 (Oligarchy/Council)
 * Economy: +5 (Tier II)
 * Technology: +10 (Tier III)

Battle of Fly (1775)

 * Uluru: 1.08
 * Army: 0.075 (250)
 * Navy: 0.05 (1)
 * Location: 1 (coast)
 * Great Leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -12 
 * Ququququ: 1.6
 * Army: 0.45 (1,500)
 * Navy: 0.15 (3)
 * Location: 1 (coast)
 * Great Leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -15

Final stage

 * Uluru: 39.18
 * Ququ...: 23
 * Result: 339% (Tier 2), decisive victory defeats Ququququ's military and occupies much of the southern coast

Battle of Bosavi (1776)

 * Uluru: -9.94
 * Army: 0.06 (200)
 * Navy: N/A
 * Location: -10 (mountains)
 * Great Leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -12
 * Ququququ: 16.33
 * Army: 0.33 (1,100)
 * Navy: N/A
 * Location: 16 (mountains)
 * Great Leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -9

Final stage

 * Uluru: 28.16
 * Ququ...: 37.73
 * Result: 178% (Tier 1), military victory stops the Uluru invasion

Prewar Stage (foreign intervention)

 * Uluru: 38.1
 * ​Population: 34*0.65 (other continent) = 22.1 (8 million)
 * Government: 6 (absolute feudal)
 * Economy: 5 (Tier II)
 * Technology: 5 (Tier II)
 * China: 123
 * ​Population: +100 (a lot) *0.6 (2 seas) = 60
 * Government: +8 (empire)
 * Economy: +25 (top Tier)
 * Technology: +30 (top Tier)

Battle of Fly (1776)

 * Uluru: 1.062
 * Army: 0.012 (40)
 * Navy: 0.05 (1)
 * Location: 1 (coast)
 * Great Leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -5
 * China (with friends): 1.555
 * Army: 0.105 (150)
 * Navy: 0.45 (9)
 * Location: 1 (coast)
 * Great Leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -17

Final stage

 * Uluru: 39.162
 * China (with friends): 124.555
 * Result: 314% (Tier 2), decisive victory, China completely routs the Uluru invasion

British- Iberian- Aztland fighting

 * Pre- war stage
 * Britian and Congress of the Hundred: 111
 * Population: 45
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 30
 * Technology: 30
 * Iberia: 106
 * Population: 40
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 30
 * Technology: 30
 * Harvey's landing at Houston
 * British: 0.9
 * Troops: 4.9
 * Location:  +1
 * Blunder: -5
 * Iberia: -2
 * Troops: 0
 * Location:  +1
 * Blunder: -3
 * Result: 107% to the British
 * Harvey's landing part 2
 * British: 0.9
 * Troops: 4.9
 * Location:  +1
 * Blunder: -5
 * Iberia: -2
 * Troops: 0
 * Location:  +1
 * Blunder: -3
 * Result: 214% to the British so Houston falls.

Prewar Stage

 * Bengal: 147
 * ​Population: 100
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20
 * ​Awadh: 68
 * ​Population: 32
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +15
 * Technology: +15

Battle Stage

 * Battle of the Saryu (1778)
 * Bengal: 177
 * ​Army size: 175 (250,000 trained)
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Awadh: 44
 * ​Army size: 42
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Final Stage
 * Bengal: 324
 * Awadh: 112
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1, Awadhi forces lose and are pushed back.
 * Battle of Lakhnau (1779)
 * Bengal: 177
 * ​Army size: 175 (250,000 trained)
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Awadh: 44
 * ​Army size: 42
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Final Stage
 * Bengal: 324
 * Awadh: 112
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1, Awadhi forces lose and are pushed back.
 * 1st year of the Siege of Kannauj (1780)
 * Bengal: 177
 * ​Army size: 175 (250,000 trained)
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Awadh: 44
 * ​Army size: 42
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Final Stage
 * Bengal: 324
 * Awadh: 112
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1, the siege of Kannauj continues.


 * 2nd year of the Siege of Kannauj (1781)
 * Bengal: 177
 * ​Army size: 175 (250,000 trained)
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Awadh: 44
 * ​Army size: 42
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Final Stage
 * Bengal: 324
 * Awadh: 112
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1, Kannauj falls to Bengali forces.

Italian-Austrian War

 * 'Italian League: total score
 * ​Population:  56
 * Government: +12
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * ​Austria: total score
 * ​Population: 20
 * Government: +5
 * Economy: +10
 * Technology: +20


 * Battle of Trento
 * Italian league
 * ​Army size: 106
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  15
 * Austria
 * ​Army size: 30
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  3


 * Italian League: 245.5
 * Austria: 91.5


 * Battle of Trento
 * Italian league
 * ​Army size: 106
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  15
 * Austria
 * ​Army size: 30
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  3


 * Italian League: 245.5
 * Austria: 91.5


 * Final Result:  536.612022

The Deccan War (1788 - 1791)

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +135
 * Population: +100 [Dravidian Population ~ 50,600,000]
 * Government: +5 [Parliamentary/Constitutional Monarchy]
 * Econony: +20 [Tier 4]
 * Technology: +10 [Tier 3]
 * Goa Sultanate & Maratha Principality [Defending]
 * Result: +52
 * Population: +32 [Goa/Maratha Population ~ 8,000,000]
 * Government:+5 [Feudal Monarchy]
 * Economy: +10 [Tier 3]
 * Technology: +10 [Tier 3]
 * Battle Stage
 * Battle of Solapur [1788]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +106.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +114 [Dravidian Army ~ 300,000 (60k Professional & 240k Untrained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Goa Sultanate [Defending]
 * Result: +60
 * Army/Navy Size: +60 [Goan Army ~ 120,000 (60k Professional & 60k Untrained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +241.5
 * Casualties: 30,000 casualties (6k Professional & 24k Untrained)
 * Result: 204.9% (Tier I). The Dravidians have won the battle with the enemy convincingly but not decisively
 * Goa Sultanate: +112
 * Casualties: 18,000 casualties (9k Professional & 9k Untrained)
 * Result: 215.6% (Tier I). The Goans can regroup and retreat in good order
 * First Siege of Aurangabad [1788]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +90
 * Army/Navy Size: +95 [Dravidian Army ~ 200,000 (100k Trained & 150k Untrained)]
 * Location: -4 [Beseiged a Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -1
 * Maratha Principality [Defending]
 * Result: +55.6
 * Army/Navy Size: +54.6 [Maratha Army ~ 72,000 (60k Professional & 12k Untrained)]
 * Location: +4 [Besieged a Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -3
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +225
 * Casualties: 32,500 casualties (13k Trained & 19.5k Untrained)
 * Result: 211% (Tier I). The Siege carries into the next year
 * Maratha Principality: +106.6
 * Casualties: 7,2000 casualties (6k Professional & 1.2k Untrained)
 * Result: 211% (Tier I). Siege carries into the next year
 * Battle of Kajali [1788]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +8.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +15 [Dravidian Navy ~ 300 ships]
 * Location: -4.5 [Near the Center of Government]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -2
 * Goa Sultanate [Defending]
 * Result: +2.95
 * Army/Navy Size: +0.45 [Goan Navy ~ 90 ships]
 * Location: +4.5 [Near the Center of Government]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -2
 * Final Stage: +143.5
 * Dravidian Empire:
 * Casualties: 30 ships
 * Result: 261.14% (Tier I). The Dravidians have won the battle with the enemy convincingly but not decisively
 * Goa Sultanate: +54.95
 * Casualties: 14 ships
 * Result: 261.14% (Tier I). The Goans can regroup and retreat in good order
 * Battle of Kolapur [1789]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +99.1
 * Army/Navy Size: +99.1 [Dravidian Army ~ 270,000 (54k Professional & 216k Untrained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -0
 * Goa Sultanate [Defending]
 * Result: +55
 * Army/Navy Size: +51 [Goan Army ~ 102,000 (51k Professional & 51k Untrained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -0
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +234.1
 * Casualties: 27,000 casualties (5.4k Professional & 21,600 Untrained)
 * Result: 218.7% (Tier I). The Dravidians have won the battle with the enemy convincingly but not decisively
 * Goa Sultanate: +107
 * Casualties: 15,300 casualties (7.650k Professional & 7.650k Untrained)
 * Result: 218.7% (Tier I). The Goans can regroup and retreat in good order
 * Second Siege of Aurangabad [1789]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +74.65
 * Army/Navy Size: +82.65 [Dravidian Army ~ 217,500 (87k Trained & 130.5k Untrained)]
 * Location: -4 [Beseiged a Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Maratha Principality [Defending]
 * Result: +42.04
 * Army/Navy Size: +41.04 [Maratha Army ~ 72,000 (54k Professional & 10.8k Untrained)]
 * Location: +4 [Besieged a Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -3
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +209.65
 * Casualties: 54,375 casualties (21.75k Trained & 32.625k Untrained)
 * Result: 211% + 225.3% = 436.3% (Tier II). Siege carries into the next year
 * Maratha Principality: +93.04
 * Casualties: 10,800 casualties (8.1k Professional & 2.7k Untrained)
 * Result: 211% + 225.3% = 436.3% (Tier II). Siege carries into the next year
 * Battle of Pune [1789]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +39.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +45 [Dravidian Army ~ 150,000 (150k Untrained)]
 * Location: -4.5 [Near the Center of Government]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -1
 * Maratha Principality [Defending]
 * Result: +14
 * Army/Navy Size: +7 [Maratha Army ~ 10,000 (10k Professional)]
 * Location: +12 [Near the Center of Government]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +174.5
 * Casualties: 15,000 (15k Untrained)
 * Result: 264.3% (Tier I). The Dravidians have won the battle with the enemy convincingly but not decisively
 * Maratha Principality: +66
 * Casualties: 1,500 casualties (1.5k Professional)
 * Result: 264.3% (Tier I). The Maratha can regroup and retreat in good order
 * Third Siege of Aurangabad [1790]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +53.9875
 * Army/Navy Size: +61.9875 [Dravidian Army ~ 160,125 (65.25k Trained & 97.875k Untrained)]
 * Location: -4 [Beseiged a Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Maratha Principality [Defending]
 * Result: +36.56
 * Army/Navy Size: +34.56 [Maratha Army ~ 61,200 (45.9k Professional & 8.1k Untrained)]
 * Location: +4 [Besieged a Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -2
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +188.9875
 * Casualties: 8,006 casualties (3.262k Trained & 4.744 Untrained)
 * Result: 211% + 225.3% +218.3% = 654.% (Tier III). The Dravidians have won a crushing decisive victory
 * Maratha Principality: +86.56
 * Casualties: 45,900 casualties (34.425k Professional & 6.075k Untrained)
 * Result: 211% + 225.3% + 218.3% = 654.5% (Tier III). The entire Maratha force is killed or wiped out

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Third Sicilian-Italian War

 * 'Italian League: total score
 * ​Population:  56
 * Government: +12
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * ​Austria: total score
 * ​Population: 20
 * Government: +5
 * Economy: +10
 * Technology: +20


 * Battle of Palermo
 * Italian league
 * ​Army size: 106
 * Navy size: 20
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  12
 * Sicily
 * ​Army size: 30
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  7


 * Italian League: 272.5
 * Sicily: 95.5


 * Battle of Palermo
 * Italian league
 * ​Army size: 106
 * Navy size: 20
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  12
 * Sicily
 * ​Army size: 30
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  7


 * Italian League: 272.5
 * Sicily: 95.5


 * Italian League: 245.5
 * Sicily: 91.5


 * Final Result:  570.680628


 * Battle of Southern Italy
 * Italian league
 * ​Army size: 106
 * Navy size: 20
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  12
 * Sicily
 * ​Army size: 30
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  7


 * Italian League: 272.5
 * Sicily: 95.5


 * Battle of Southern Italy
 * Italian league
 * ​Army size: 106
 * Navy size: 20
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  12
 * Sicily
 * ​Army size: 30
 * Navy size: N/A
 * Location: 3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder:  7


 * Italian League: 272.5
 * Sicily: 95.5


 * Italian League: 245.5
 * Sicily: 91.5


 * Final Result:  570.680628

Prewar Stage

 * Magadh: 147
 * ​Population: 100
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20
 * ​Gwalior: 44
 * ​Population: 8
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +15
 * Technology: +15

Battle Stage

 * 1st Year of the Siege of Gwalior (1789)
 * Magadh: 52
 * ​Army size: 62
 * Location: -10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Gwalior: 20
 * ​Army size: 10
 * Location: +10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Final Stage
 * Magadh: 199
 * Gwalior: 64
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 2. Gwalior's forces suffer 25% casualties while Magadhi forces suffer 10% casualties.


 * 2nd Year of the Siege of Gwalior (1790)
 * Magadh: 52
 * ​Army size: 62
 * Location: -10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Gwalior: 20
 * ​Army size: 10
 * Location: +10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Final Stage
 * Magadh: 199
 * Gwalior: 64
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 2. Siege score crosses 500% and Gwalior falls.

Prewar Stage

 *  Kashmir:


 *  ​Population: ( 1 million): 4
 *  Government: Iqta - +5
 *  Economy:  tier 3 +10
 *  Technology: 3 +10
 *  Khannate: 50
 *  Population: (5 million): 22
 *  Government:Great Nomadic Horde - +8
 *  Population: (5 million): 22
 *  Government:Great Nomadic Horde - +8


 *  Economy Tier III: 10
 *  Technology Tier 3: 10

Invasion of Landz

 *  Khannate invasion : + 16


 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Army Size:55,000 (16.5) +  13,750  (4.12) = 68750 ( 20.17)
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Navy Size: Funny Joke (0)
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Location:  Normal attacking: -3
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Great Leader: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Attrition: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:22pt;"> Blunder:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:22pt;"> Blunder:

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:15pt;"> kashmir: 9


 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:18pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Army Size:7,500 (2.25)
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Navy Size: 0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Location:Mountains: +7
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Great General: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Attrition: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Blunder:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Result
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Blunder:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Result


 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Khanate
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> Kashmir:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:15pt;"> Battle Tier: Tier 3

British Invasion of Gibraltar

 * Pre- war stage
 * Britian: 118.2
 * Population: 63.2
 * Economy: 20
 * Technology: 30
 * Government: 5
 * Bread government: 105
 * Population: 50
 * Economy: 10
 * Technology: 30
 * Government: 15
 * Relief of Gibraltar Part 1
 * Britian: 2.31
 * Troops 2.31 (Line infrantry, Grenadiers and Marines)
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder: -1
 * Iberia: -0.1
 * Troops:0.9 (3,000 untrained troops)
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder: -2
 * Result: 115% to the British
 * Relief of Gibraltar Part 2
 * Britian: 0.31
 * Troops 2.31 (2,000 Line infrantry, Grenadiers and Marines)
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder: -3
 * Iberia: 0.9
 * Troops:0.9 (3,000 untrained troops)
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder: -1
 * Result: 227% to the British so the Siege of Gibraltar is broken by British forces.
 * Hey marines only count if you are conducting a Coastal landing and apply to the whole score, they are an augmenter to the whole score not just troop score. -Feud

Belkan Seizure of Damietta
Amphibious landing at the port of Damietta

Prewar Stage

 * Belka: 149.8
 * Population: 76.8
 * Government: +13 (Federal Republic)
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * Egypt: 145
 * Population: +100
 * Government: 5
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20

Battle Stage

 * Landing at Damietta
 * Belka: 26.5
 * Army size: 25
 * Navy size: +5
 * Location: -3.5 (Damietta)
 * Great leader: N/A 
 * Blunder: -17
 * Egypt: 
 * Army size: 26
 * Navy size: naval score (acutal navy)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -9

Final Stage

 * Belka 185.8 (this includes landing with marines)
 * Egypt: 162
 * Final Result: 114%
 * Belkan Forces force a landing at a cost and the army remains.

Battle for the City of Damietta

Prewar Stage

 * Belka: 149.8
 * Population: 76.8
 * Government: +13 (Federal Republic)
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * Egypt: 145
 * Population: +100
 * Government: 5
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20

Battle Stage

 * Battle for Damietta
 * Belka: 76.5
 * Army size: 75
 * Navy size: +5
 * Location: -3.5 (Damietta)
 * Great leader: N/A 
 * Blunder: -5
 * Egypt: 
 * Army size: 29.5
 * Navy size: naval score (acutal navy)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -11

Final Stage
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 * Belka 221.3
 * Egypt: 163.5
 * Final Result: 134%
 * Belkan forces defeat the Egyptians shifting more control of the city under their

Prewar Stage

 * Belka: 149.8
 * Population: 76.8
 * Government: +13 (Federal Republic)
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30
 * Egypt: 145
 * Population: +100
 * Government: 5
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20

Battle Stage

 * Battle for Damietta
 * Belka: 76.5
 * Army size: 75
 * Navy size: +5
 * Location: -3.5 (Damietta)
 * Great leader: N/A 
 * Blunder: -6
 * Egypt: 
 * Army size: 29.5
 * Navy size: naval score (acutal navy)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: -1

Final Stage

 * Belka 220.3
 * Egypt: 173.5
 * Final Result: 126% + 134% = 260%
 * After two grueling years, the Belkan forces officially seize Damietta and break the close engagement.

Dravida - Iberian War (1794 - 1795)

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +135
 * Population: +100 [Dravidian Population ~ 62,000,000]
 * Government: +5 [Parliamentary/Constitutional Monarchy]
 * Economy: +20 [Tier 4]
 * Technology: +10 [Tier 3]
 * Iberian Empire [Defending]
 * Result: +123
 * Population: +56 [Iberian Population ~ 8,000,000]
 * Government: +7 [Absolute Monarchy]
 * Economy: +30 [Tier 5]
 * Technology: +30 [Tier 5]
 * Battle Stage
 * First Battle of the Circars  [1794]


 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +137.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +142 [Dravidian Army ~ 160,000 (60k Professional & 200k Trained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -1
 * Iberian Empire [Defending]
 * Result: +4
 * Army/Navy Size: +5 [Iberian Army ~ 10,000 (10k Trained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +272.5
 * Result: 214.56% (Tier I)
 * Iberian Empire: +127
 * Result: 214.56% (Tier I)
 * Second Battle of the Circars  [1795]


 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +137.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +142 [Dravidian Army ~ 160,000 (60k Professional & 200k Trained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -1
 * Iberian Empire [Defending]
 * Result: +4
 * Army/Navy Size: +5 [Iberian Army ~ 10,000 (10k Trained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +272.5
 * Result: 214.56 +214.56 = 429.12% (Tier II). Dravidia has won a decisive battle
 * Iberian Empire: +127
 * Result: 214.56 + 214.56 = 429.12% (Tier II). Iberia retreats in good order but with a decent amount of casualties.
 * First Battle of Goa [1794]
 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +52.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +60 [Dravidian Army ~ 200,000 (200k Untrained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Iberian Empire [Defending]
 * Result: +7.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +7.5 [Iberian Army ~ 15,000 (15k Trained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +187.5
 * Result: 143.6% (Tier 0). Inconclusive
 * Iberian Empire: +130.5
 * Result: 143.6% (Tier 0). Inconclusive
 * Second Battle of Goa  [1794]


 * Dravidian Empire [Attacking]
 * Result: +52.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +60 [Dravidian Army ~ 360,000 (200k Untrained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -5
 * Iberian Empire [Defending]
 * Result: +7.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +7.5 [Iberian Army ~ 15,000 (15k Trained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -4
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire: +187.5
 * Result: 143.6% + 143.6% = 287.2% (Tier I). Dravidia has won the battle with the enemy
 * Iberian Empire: +130.5
 * Result: 143.6% + 143.6% = 287.2% (Tier I). Iberia can retreat and regroup in good order

War of the Five Kings (1796 - ?)

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad) [Attacking]
 * Result: +135
 * Population: +100 [Dravidian Population ~ 27,000,000]
 * Government: +5 [Parliamentary/Constitutional Monarchy]
 * Economy: +20 [Tier 4]
 * Technology: +10 [Tier 3]
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz) [Defending]
 * Result: +137
 * Population: +100 [Dravidian Population ~ 27,000,000]
 * Government: +7 [Absolute Monarchy]
 * Economy: +20 [Tier 4]
 * Technology: +10 [Tier 3]
 * Battle Stage
 * Battle of Srirangapatna  [1797 - 1799]


 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad) [Attacking]
 * Result: +252.5
 * Army/Navy Size: +267 [Allied Army ~ 450,000 (240k Professional, 180k Trained & 30k Untrained)]
 * Location: -3.5 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -11
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz) [Defending]
 * Result: +85
 * Army/Navy Size: +100 [Dravidian Army ~ 200,000 (200k Trained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -19
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad): +387.5
 * Result: 174.5 + 174.5 + 174.5% = 523.5% (Tier III). Ziyad has won a crushing decisive victory
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz): +222
 * Result: 174.5 + 174.5 + 174.5% = 523.5% (Tier III). Shiraz has suffered major casualties and is retreating out of the region
 * Battle of Masulipatnam  [1798 - 1799]


 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad) [Attacking]
 * Result: +69
 * Army/Navy Size: +80 [Allied Army ~ 240,000 (40k Trained & 200k Untrained)]
 * Location: -4 [Major City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -7
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz) [Defending]
 * Result: -6
 * Army/Navy Size: +6 [Dravidian Army ~ 20,000 (20k Untrained)]
 * Location: +4 [Near a City]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -16
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad): +204
 * Result: 155.7 + 155.7 = 311.4% (Tier II). Ziyad has won a decisive victory
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz): +131
 * Result: 155.7 + 155.7 = 311.4% (Tier II). Shiraz retreats in good order but with a decent amount of casualties
 * Siege of Tanjore  [1800 - 1802]


 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad) [Attacking]
 * Result: +259
 * Army/Navy Size: +267 [Allied Army ~ 450,000 (240k Professional, 180k Trained & 30k Untrained)]
 * Location: -8 [Besieging the Center of Government]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -0
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz) [Defending]
 * Result: +70
 * Army/Navy Size: +60 [Dravidian Army ~ 200,000 (200k Untrained)]
 * Location: +12 [Beseiged Center of Government]
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: -2
 * Final Stage:
 * Dravidian Empire (Ziyad): +394
 * Result: 190.3 + 190.3 + 190.3 = 570.9% (Tier III). Ziyad has won a crushing decisive victory
 * Dravidian Empire (Shiraz): +207
 * Result:  190.3 + 190.3 + 190.3 = 570.9% (Tier III).  Shiraz's forces have been caught in the city and the garrison is entirely wiped out or taken prisoner

Tongan War (1801)

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Hawaii, Polynesia, and protectorates [Attacking]
 * Result: +42.2
 * Population: 5.2
 * Government: 7
 * Economy: 10
 * Technology: 20
 * Tonga [Defending]
 * Result: +18
 * Population: 1
 * Government: 7
 * Economy: +5
 * Technology: +5


 * Battle Stage
 * Invasion of Tonga


 * Hawaii [Attacking]
 * Result
 * Army: 21
 * Navy: 60
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: 8


 * Tonga [Defending]
 * Result
 * Army/Navy Size: 3 (10,000)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: 7

Final:
 * Hawaii: 127.7
 * Tonga: 31.5
 * Percent: 405.39682539682536%


 * Battle Stage
 * Invasion of Tonga


 * Hawaii [Attacking]
 * Result
 * Army: 21
 * Navy: 60
 * Location: -3.5
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: 8


 * Tonga [Defending]
 * Result
 * Army/Navy Size: 3 (10,000)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Great General: +0
 * Blunder: 7

Final:
 * Hawaii: 127.7
 * Tonga: 31.5
 * Percent: 810%

Prewar Stage

 * Brésil: 67
 * ​Population: 32 (8,000,000)
 * Government: 5 (Parliamentary Monarchy)
 * Economy: 10 (Tier 3)
 * Technology: 20 (Tier 4)
 * Dominian of Amazonia: 35.8
 * ​Population: 0.8 (200,000)
 * Government: 5 (Parliamentary Monarchy)
 * Economy:  10 (Tier 3)
 * Technology: 20 (Tier 4)

Battle Stage

 * First Battle of Belém (1802)
 * Brésil: 20.5
 * ​Army size: 34 (80,000 // 50,000 Trained Conscript & 30,000 Untrained)
 * Location: -3.5 (City)
 * Great leader: 0 (None)
 * Blunder: -10 (Scraw)
 * Dominion of Amazonia: 8.5
 * ​Army size: 8.5 (15,000 // 10,000 Trained Conscript & 5,000 Professional; Iberia moved troops to defend it after threat)
 * Location: 4 (City)
 * Great leader: 0 (None)
 * Blunder: -4 (Scraw)

Final Stage

 * Brésil: 97.5
 * Dominion of Amazonia: 44.3
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1 (220%), Brésil beats Iberian-Amazonian Force convincingly: 8,000 Brésilians Die vs. 2,250 Amazonians Die

Battle Stage

 * Second Battle of Belém (1802)
 * Brésil: 21.1
 * ​Army size: 31.6 (72,000 // 50,000 Trained Conscript & 22,000 Untrained)
 * Location: -3.5 (City)
 * Great leader: 0 (None)
 * Blunder: -7 (Scraw)
 * Dominion of Amazonia: 3.4
 * ​Army size: 7.4 (12,750 // 7,750 Trained Conscript & 5,000 Professional)
 * Location: 4 (City)
 * Great leader: 0 (None)
 * Blunder: -8 (Scraw)

Final Stage

 * Brésil: 88.1
 * Dominion of Amazonia: 39.2
 * Final Result: Battle Tier 1 (225%), Brésil beats Iberian-Amazonian Force convincingly: 7,200 Brésilians Die vs. 1,912.5 Amazonians Die

=Complaints and Upgrades=

Changes to Current Map
'''This is the section where you add expansion, complaints, or changes for the map in the PMIV Map Game. Please make it easy to understand for the mapmaker the expansion that you committed. This means including the name of your nation, and maybe an OTL location, and sometimes a reference map. Note, color requests will not be granted, as we already follow a color scheme.'''

Requested Changes/Errors for Next Version
' ABSOLUTELY NO ANTI-ALIASING. THIS CREATES GRAINY UNEDITABLE SHIT MAPS. IF YOUR MAP IS USING ANTI-ALIASING YOUR CHANGES WILL NOT BE REFLECTED. '

The map will be updated in 1 to 3 days so Put here your changes if they allow me to become a Mapmaker -vinny

Pueblo Confederacy: The Pueblo confederacy colonized to OTL Salt Lake City and the Colorado Wyoming Border as well as set up Outposts on the OTL New Mexico Texas Border.

Malaya: Sabah is actually under Malaya, not Japan, and has been so since 1668 with no disapproval from the mods nor Japan.

This section is only for the mapmaker to post which changes were added to the next map, PLEASE DO NOT WRITE YOUR REQUESTS HERE.

1746

 * Updated French Brazil expansion based on OTL counterpart
 * Minor border fixes to New Valois captaincies
 * Added disputed status to West Falkland
 * Added Burgundian colonial expansion in Suriname and Patagonia
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion on the Araguaia River
 * Added Iberian colonies in Bombay and East Timor
 * Added British colonial expansion in Quebec (to a reasonable extent considering Scandinavia's presence)
 * Added Scandinavian colony in Barbados (est. 1572, but colored Iberian on the map for some reason.)
 * Added Jaffarid conquest of Sinai
 * Expanded the Caliphate based on the Second Treaty of Cairo
 * Colored Dulkadir as a vassal of the Jaffarids
 * Colored Baloch as a vassal of Persia with British influence
 * Colored Sicily as a vassal of the Italian League
 * Removed Swahili colony in Libreville

1748

 * Added Ionia
 * Added Greek state
 * Added Fulo conquests in Mali
 * Added Italian conquests in Sicily
 * Added French colonial expansion in Peru
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion in Bombay
 * Added Scandinavian colony in South Africa
 * Added Zulu expansion in South Africa
 * Colored North Maluku/Ternate as a vassal of France

1750

 * Added Iberian protectorate in Guinea-Bissau
 * Added Iberian conquests in Guinea
 * Added small states in Mali and areas of Iberian influence
 * Added British Casablanca
 * Added Italian conquests in Maghreb
 * Colored Fulo as independent
 * Colored Seluja as independent
 * Removed Maghrebi territory south of Taoudenni after the loss of Fulo
 * Expanded Fulo to actually encompass Timbuktu
 * Added French colonial expansion in Brazil and Peru
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion in Brazil
 * Updated Deccan's color (now it uses the proper color rather than Ceylon's color)

1751

 * Added Kingdom of Sine
 * Added Kingdom of Saloum
 * Added Kingdom of Kombo
 * Expanded Bissau protectorate slightly (to the Casamance)
 * Removed Iberian influence outline in Guinea
 * Added Burgundian annexation of Metz and Verdun
 * Added Belkan reconquest of Greece

1753

 * Added Burgundian colonial expansion in Guyana
 * Added French colonial expansion in Brazil and Peru
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion in Brazil and Colombia
 * Removed Iberian colonies in California
 * Removed Italian Tripoli (by request of Feud)
 * Removed Scandinavian colony in South Africa (assuming the Zulu captured it)
 * Removed Pontus' Russian influence outline
 * Colored Zulu and vassals

1754

 * Added Burgundian colonial expansion/claims on the coast of Patagonia
 * Added Russian colonial expansion in Alaska
 * Removed Comanche territory in Pueblo lands
 * Colored Great Inagua as disputed

1757

 * Added Deccan claims to the Chagos Archipelago
 * Added Swiss Confederacy
 * Added Burgundian conquests/colonial expansion in New York
 * Added British colonial expansion in the Pennsylvania area
 * Added Iberian capture of Mauritius
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion in East Timor
 * Added Russian colonial expansion in Alaska (to Yakutat)
 * Colored Nagpur and Jagdalpur as tributaries and protectorates of Deccan
 * Minor fixes (such as the tip of Cape Cod being colored Burgundian)

1761

 * Experimenting with colonial claims borders for countries that have a solid claim on an area, with either partial settlement or some degree of control, but haven't fully settled it.
 * Iberian Maranhão and Burgundian Guyana now reflect actual settlement
 * Russian Siberia now reflects actual settlement
 * Added disputed status to northeast Colombia
 * Added disputed status to parts of Pennsylvania
 * Added Pueblo Confederacy (Iberian vassal)
 * Added Iberian conquests and areas of influence in Timor and the Maluku Islands
 * Removed the Eternal Swede

1766

 * Added the Rhineland League
 * Added Augsburg
 * Added Burgundian conquests in France
 * Added British Puerto Rico, Luanda, and Le Havre
 * Added Italian conquests in the Mediterranean
 * Colored Sardinia and Tripoli as Italian protectorates
 * Colored Savoy and Corsica as independent
 * Removed Savoyan influence outline in Wallis
 * Colored Ionia as a protectorate of Belka
 * Added Ionian conquests in Rum
 * Added Belkan occupation of eastern Austria
 * Added Bavaria (Belkan puppet)
 * Added Cilicia (Russian vassal)
 * Updated the borders of Saxony
 * Corrected the borders of France and removed their medieval vassal states
 * Added Chinese conquest/vassalization of Mongolia
 * Added Malayan expansion in Borneo
 * Added Swahili conquest of Danangombe area and vassalization of Rozwi based on the Treaty of Danangombe
 * Added Deccan capture of French trading posts in India
 * Added Ququququ expansion
 * Added Oman, Qatar, and Zakariyya
 * Re-added the Empty Quarter due to the amount of semi-independent states
 * Expanded the colonial claims of Prince Eric's Land
 * Added Scandinavian and British claims in Quebec
 * Updated British claims in Pennsylvania
 * Added Burgundian colonial expansion and claims in New York
 * Added Russian colonial expansion in Alaska
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion in Brazil
 * Added French colonial expansion in Brazil and acquisition of the Savoy captaincy and Al Maqadas
 * Added Iberian colonial expansion in East Timor
 * Re-added the lost island of Sumba

1799

 * add the Illnios Confedartion and add claims

Mod Event Complaint
When complaining, please include the year of the event that you are complaining about.

Anangu Kingdom - 1569

 * I'm assuming this has been happening for a while, but I just noticed it in 1569 and the map complaints page. What is this bs with the Anangu Kingdom? A civilization of this size could not, and should not, exist in Australia in the given time period. It especially should not be developing at the rate that the mods are claiming. Cour *talk* 02:53, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree, plus the population growth rates are grossly exaggerated. It is unlikely for a state to go from a few dozen thousand to approaching two million within a century, and certainly impossible if it is in the pre-industrial age.
 * I don't want to start an argument as I am not wedded to the Anangu Kingdom, but I will give some explanation. The original tribe I started playing as, the Ngarrindjeri, started in 1440 with a population of 6,000.  The total population of southern Australia, including all tribes (that I estimated), was about 300,000. After the Ngarrindjeri developed agiculture, that knowledge spread across the rest of Southern Australia to all the tribes. Thus, all of Southern Australia's population began to increase exponentially from the food production, eventually devleoping cities and city-states. The Ngarrinjderi themselves, which was only one city-state among many, rose in population from about 6,000 in 1440 to now roughly 200,000 in 1570. The total population of Southern Australia, from all the tribes rose from about 300,000 in 1440 to now 1.8 million in 1570. As for its size, there is a reason I didn't post a map until this point. The South Australian Civilization was only a collection of dis-united city-states until around 1560. Rather than one nation conuqering that  whole area, which would have been impossible, the Anangu Kingdom formed as a result of multiple unions and conquests internally that unified the city-states together, just like any other civilization in history. As a single, organized state, the Anangu Kingdom first appeared in 1560, before conuqering other more tribal areas nearby (and I don't expect it to last very long before fracturing). Also, the fact that the South Australian Civilization is only bronze-age technology helps its unification. If the city-states were very well developed like China or Italy, it would have been much harder for them to conquer or unify with each other. Now, I will admit that I compressed the usual timeline of civlization growth for the sake of creating something interesting for the game, so again I'm not completely wedded to it if anyone else doesn't really like the idea. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  13:17, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Bengal events 1604-1605
Bengal doesnt have 300,000 troops. There are 10% Muslims in Aryavarta and that is 10 million so they have an army of 100,000. I had 50,000 troops there already and I should also be give a chance to put up my troop numbers. I swear Scraw had approved me having a 1 mil army. So I retain West Bengal and East Bengal is independent not its vassals. Also since there are 10 mil Muslims they create their own army and Hindus are not loyal to them. There are 100,000 Burmese troops and I will use them in the algo. Secondly I have clearly stated that there are 1300 ships in the Bay of Bengal so no Rashidun troops reach Bengal. You have adjusted my algo to 800,000 troops. Now there are another 200,000 and 100,000 Burmese. So due to me having only 1 million. There is no invasion of South Bahmani. As a result there are even more troops in Bengal.

There is no way there will be more than 10% Muslims in Aryavarta also Bengal has 10 million that is all the Muslims. No Hindus support the rebellion and they definitely do not join their army. Muslims ruled solidly for at least 400 years in India under the Mughals and still they were just 25% in 1947.

I had clearly stated that my navy is in the Bay of Bengal and I swear that Scraw approved me having a 1 mil army. Also I have changed the algo. Nate and Warrior adjusted my algo to 800,000 but I have 200,000 more.

As I am not absolutely non feudal that is why Scraw has allowed me to use the 0.01 of my population.

Dev271 (talk) 07:14, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Various miscellaneous complaints (mostly Rajput) - 1623
<p style="font-weight:normal;">^^ SALTY AF

We didn't mean that all the military revolted, just the Rajput loyal to the nobles of Maratha. All that would cause is decreasing your mlitary by 60%.
 * Where a nation like Swahili (3 million = 280 ships) can send 800 ships. Where special nations are exempt from questions on their population. From the wikipedia, the Ottomans (1600) had a population of 26 million but today the country that mirrors it is at 50 million and still the mirroring country is smaller than OTL Ottomans(Anatolia, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Moldavia, Bosnia,Wallachia).
 * Again from Wikipedia - When OTL Persia under the Safavid dynasty under its greatest extent under Shah Abbas 1 (1588-1629) had a population of 3.2 million, but the country that mirrors it which is smaller boasts of a population of 15 million. According to Ottoman pop. in 1600 the smaller country should have 10-15 million.
 * These two mirroring countries deploy forces larger than they can. Where the countries who dont have a reason for naval growth can take up Malay islands. But another country in the South of India is told that it is too far from Java to care about it. (Drake and France). This is implausible af.
 * Aryavarta has had 5 Rajput kings out of 7. These were kings of the Rajput nations themselves. They integrated them during their reign. Rajputs are adequately represented in the council I dont even touch Maratha territory. Marathi is not even spoken in my nation.
 * My army is not composed of the Rajputs. This was senseless considering the amount of Rajputs my council has and that they have a different province - Rajputana and the Rajputs are its governors.
 * Persia- At max 3 million. Not 15 million. Warrior says it is 15 million.
 * I accept that India had a pop. of 100 mil. (Moreland's estimate is highly debated though). But the North would have 60 million because of density differences. Also I promise to the mod council I will not expand more (except Ahom). Let me have my nation as it is now and I will lay low. I promise.
 * I do agree - DrDrake
 * Actually Dev, I cannot find the ridiculous 3 million pop claim. I searched for it. And, feud says my nation is at 11 mil, nate says it is at 15 mil, when rimp ruled it and it had a lot of territory it was at 35 mil. 3 mil is ridiculous, sources can be very shaky. The population of Iran has not been that low since the Mongol Conquests. ~Warrior
 * Iran proper has a population of four million or so. However, Iran in-game also has parts of Pakistan.
 * The part of Pakistan that Iran has is not the fertile areas. It is Balochistan and the Tribal area not having more than 500,000 people.
 * He's literally holding the entirety of the Indus River valley. If that's not "fertile", I don't know what is.
 * Yes, you are correct, Iran proper has about 4 million however, due to the indus river, I have an additional 10 mil or so. ~ Warrior

I believe in OTL the middle east, Zanzibar and Persia did have lower populations than ATL, and this is primarily due to the 50 million poeple of the Timurid Empire not collapsing in war and famine as OTL. The Caliphate's population in the middle east was reduced to 30 million in the early 16 century and has been growing at the same rate as OTL, just with a higher principle. It is also compensated by the fact Swahili adapted more advanced agricultural methods than OTL relative to their area, so their population increased as a result. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  23:29, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Also, I have indus river, another 10 mil people. So Iran has more people than OTL, plus the 10 mil in the indus river. So even more than 15 mil dev. ~Warrior

Asside from those two issues, there really isn't anything implausible about the revolt as posted. The Maratha, as you know, broke off at the same time OTL, and was about the same scale and structure.

Now, if you promise, as you say, to leave Bengal as it was before and expand nowhere except Assam as you said, then we would cause the revolt to resovle itself. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  19:38, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

So it appears dev is right about the Indus. However, the confirmed population of Gurkani following the treaty of Batman was 19 million after its signing. I also have sindh now, and qatar. The reason it is so much higher than OTL is as nathan said, " 50 million poeple of the Timurid Empire not collapsing in war and famine as OTL." So my population is somewhere around 20 mil. enough said.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 08:40, March 12, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

Sakhan Events 1644-5
I'm not going to strenuously oppose this, but I'm just a little unsure how there is suddenly a large number of firebrand Orthodox in Sakha after approximately one year of Russian Orthodox proseletysing, when the local (Nestorian) Sakhan Church of the East has been solidly established for ages and ages, and has had the support of the Papacy (through the Korean/Japanese Missions) for over eighty years. Maybe I missed how long the Russians were sending missionaries but like, I'm not seeing it. Callumthered (talk) 07:18, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

^^^ Agreed.

Distance and geography. Russia borders Sakha and is thus able to directly influence them, while Papal missionaries have to circumnavigate Africa, India, Indochina, and East Asia to reach Sakha (it's a bit out of your range). General534 (talk) 04:15, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Except that there have been strong Catholic bases in Korea and Japan for over a century...Callumthered (talk) 05:51, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Cologne 1672
Seriously? A woman preaching protestantism in Cologne of all places? The font of the Adelphinian reforms, the location of the Council of Cologne? I find the existence of "protestant" groups in Northern Germany fanciful enough given all the effort Nonsense and I have gone to, but this takes the cake. Callumthered (talk) 06:09, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

One person does not a religious movement make. I decided to throw it in just to have some interaction between Scandinavia and Cologne. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  06:16, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Fair fair. Callumthered (talk) 03:00, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Imperial Court 1681
How would "many" members of the imperial court be Dutch speaking? For one, it's not even fully established yet as I'm still waiting on a response from Cologne. For another, the event ignores how the court is set up: its a three man court, with one member from Austria, one from Cologne (hopefully), and one from Burgundy-Prussia. So only one member would potentially be Dutch speaking, unless cologne or Austria nominate a Dutchman, which I don't see happening.

Is the event supposed to make others suspicious about the court? The addition of "Just so that you know" tacked on makes me believe so. If you're going to do that, please at least make so the event conforms with the courts organization. I am that guy (talk) 19:03, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Imperial Court 1685
'''Austria is supportive of Cologne's idea of a judicial council in Cologne, but does not recognize the Imperial Council of Burgundy. Austria uses its hegmony in the southern states to support its own supremacy. Bohemia is on the fence. This tension is most ignited by the Pope's friendly diplomacy with Saxony, leader of the anti-imperialists, which suggests a Papal dissatisfaction with the House of Burgundy.'''


 * 1) The "Judicial council in Cologne" and the "imperial council of Burgundy" are the same thing. I put the court in Cologne to give it a sizable degree of independence from the Emperor and because of Colognes nigh universal respect among the HRE states and factions.
 * 2) Once more, Austria has already supported the court, with it naming a judge to man its seat on it.
 * 3) If Austria is so keen on becoming HREmperor, then why undercut the authority of the central court by setting up a rival court? And why discredit its reputation by first supporting the central court, then retracting it and making its own?
 * 4) Bohemia is in a PU with me.
 * 5) Since when was Saxony the leader of the anti-imperialists?

I am that guy (talk) 17:03, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

You can't be the Netherlands and Germany. That is not fair. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  00:05, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

General Moretocome events 1698-99
Yes, I know this is a joke, but how am I supposed to respond? How does one "coup" a colony? Did he overthrow the governor and impose a dictatorship? Or is he still under Iberian rule? Assuming the 24,000 professional troops stationed in Maranhão (that are completely unaffiliated to this "general") didn't stop him, how did he manage to pull a fleet out of his ass and send it to India? There are a lot of reasonable mod events that could happen; this is not one of them. General534 (talk) 13:42, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Prussian Restoration
Can someone further explain this "Prussian restoration"?

The nobility have jack-all for actual power, and since there's only forty of them, and that the army answers to the crown and not them, I'm assuming it's just a few disgruntled nobles got together in a barn and decided to do something dumb. I am that guy (talk) 22:52, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

Concentrations
The Concentration system is new to Pm4. In this system, nations will either pick a concentration between the Army or the Navy, as no nations, with some extreme exceptions, could afford both at this period in time. How it will work is this:
 * 1) Nations will pick a concentration, assuming they have a choice. Nations that are landlocked can only pick Army, while nations like Genoa or OTL Venice can only pick Navy. You will need to recive mod approval for which ever you pick
 * 2) Your concentration can be officially changed every 30 years, although the mods may change it via event depending on the actions of your nations or wars you get involved in. An example of this would be something along the lines of the Spanish Armada. After a destruction like that, Spain would have to switch from Naval to Army because its prized navy was destroyed. Events like that can and will force changes in your concentraction.
 * 3) Your concentration will give you a 10% boost in the respective algorithim as long as it is changed without mod event.
 * 4) Simply add it to the table below to declare it (Add more rows if needed)
 * 5) If the cell with your concentration is green, that means you are currently getting the bonus. If it is red it was forced to change by a mod event. If it is gray it was never approved in the first place.

EDIT:Since there was some confusion on chat, I will explain. In AP Euro one of the thigns we discussed was what led to the rise of France and England as two of the dominant powers in Europe, and what made the two nations different. One of the things brought up is how even France, which during the rise of nation states, was among the richest and most powerful nations in Europe and the world. However, even they could not afford a powerful army and navy, so they where forced to choose between the two. France picked their army, and England picked their navy. Both nations had capable Armies and Navies, but the French navy was noticably weaker than the English navy and the English army was noticably weaker than the French Army.  This doesn't mean you can't develop both , but at this time, nations focused on one, often at expense of the other.

African Sultanate of Maghrib | Navy | 1605 | 1635 | -

Explanations of lack of Approval
Feel free to dispute it in a civil manner, and if it gets out of hand you will get a three day game ban.

Colonization and Contact Confirmation
In order for you to colonize or explore another region of the world, you must be confirmed through this process. Message me with any questions or concerns. Add more rows as needed.
 * 1) You must follow all rules laid out in the rules page.
 * 2)  You must show two things to colonize: Capability and Motivation. If you lack one, you can not colonize
 * 3)  Your reasons must be confirmed by 3 mods. Even if you have waited 15 turns for an answer, it does not matter. Pester a mod into giving you a yes or no.
 * 4) Mods can say no. If one of them says no don't try and pretend they ignored it.
 * 5) You can only seek to confirm the nation you play as and nothing more.
 * 6) When seeking confirmation, you want to include the date you would begin colonizing. If you want to do it right away, put the turn of your request.
 * 7) If a mod finds this date to be too early or too late even, they should inform the player as such. Not every nation colonized at once so if you decide to try in jump in right away, even if you have the means and the motive to do so, you may be rejected because of the date.

'''IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY VOTES, IT MEANS YOU CANNOT COLONIZE OR EXPLORE. DO NOT TAKE SILENCE AS APPROVAL.'''

Access for Landlocked polities
Requiring 2/3 approval of mods, which currently means 4 mods.

Augsburg
Mods only
 * Yes
 * No
 * I know you would be able to make tiny ports like OTL Malta or something, but that gets so minor it might as well not even be mentioned Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  00:58, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * 22:45, December 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * Deadly State of Mind (talk) 14:15, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Abstain

Tier Upgrade
When requesting an upgrade, use the following format:

*Nation (player) **Current tier and tier you would like to be upgraded to **Provide reasoning **Mod response here

Economic Tier Upgrade

 * Britain (Person)
 * Tier 4 to Tier 5
 * I now have an intergrated country free of internal trade barriers, I have been out of war for some time and I haven't had any fighting in my own land in longer, I have a developed taxation and borrowing system, my population has gorwn, I have some colonies which produce cash crops and furs, the canals and roads allow internal trade and I gaining an agricultral surplus. Privateering brings some money in and France, Iberia, Burgundy all have been at war recently or currently.
 * Mod response here
 * The Caliphate
 * Tier 4, trying for Tier 5
 * Tier 4 was the tier for the Caliphate back before the Persian War. Since then, The Caliphate has dominated the Silk Road trade by land, via the Compact of Beyrut, and by sea, via the Arab-Indian Company. Not to mention the exclusive trade deals with Bulgaria and the creation of the Bank of Cairo
 * Mod response: Approved. ~Wolvesmod
 * Norway -- Dream_Helix_Fossil_Sprite.png Praise Helix Welcome my children Tumblr_n1i7boISUv1rvlenbo1_500.gif
 * Tier 3 trying for 4
 * Norway has inherited and now owns sweden a tier 4 economy since we have it is only natural that we now become a tier 4 economy.
 * Mod Response- Approved. ~Wolvesmod
 * Sakha - Shikata ga nai! 02:49, January 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Upgrade from Tier I to Tier II
 * Because of substantial trade with East Asia, mining activity, development of settled agriculture due to reforms. Also the Yakuts have long had metallurgy and more modern technology, plus greater political organization and technology than most tribes, that facilitate economic development.
 * Mod Response- Approved. ~Wolvesmod


 * Malaya (Sidewinder)
 * Upgrade from unknown to Tier II
 * Trade hotspot in Straits of Malacca, as well as upgrades in trading ports.
 * Mod response: Approved -Nate


 * Korea
 * Tier 4, trying for Tier 5
 * Korea is now China. Self-explanatory.
 * Mod Response: Approved -Nate
 * Kingdom of England and Ireland
 * Tier 3 and I would like to be tier 4
 * Well I now control Ireland, I have been doing trade with Asia, Africa and Arcadia. I got money from the loss of Avalon. I built a load of canals, my population grew. I am pursuring merchantile policies. Similiar and no longer existing European nations are listed as Tier IV and Tier V
 * Mod response: Approved -Nate
 * Tondo
 * Tier 2 and would like tier 4
 * Trade hotspot between the west and the orient. Tributary status under China provides much wealth for the nation. Tondo is also a major trading partner for multiple European nations. Tondo also has settlements in Borneo, a very resource rich area.
 * Mod response:
 * The Punjab Confederacy
 * Unknown- Should be Tier 3-(Tier4 in near future)
 * The Confederacy of Punjab has benefitted immensely from the English trade enclave in Bilaspur as well as trade agreements with several nations, such as England, Burgundy, Venice, Aryavarta (?) and Bengal. Two major ports have been built or expanded recently increasing international trade, while state roads are beginning to be developed. A merchant fleet is being built, while piracy has helped reduce nearby competitors, though trade allies (England, Burgundy) are unscathed due to deals with the pirates. Cotton plantations are being built, while infrastructure has also been build
 * Tier 3 Approved
 * Bengal Sultanate Adolf Coffee (talk) 23:09, May 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Tier 3 trying for Tier 4
 * The nation itself has expanded on setting up trade routes to make trade easier. Educational facilities have been made. Trade in the Med. and the Indian Ocean has expanded with a production of a variety of wanted crops. Influence and tech have helped the nation grow as a whole from other nations such as France and England. Many jobs have been made for people and production of currency has spread to become a more common use in the nation itself. Newspapers are commonly used in the nation to deliver local news and etc. which had become a booming industry. Coastal Towns and cities have become hotspots for business. Weaponry is also made based on French and English weapons. Shipyards have also expanded to create more ships to be used in trade. Silk is commonly traded with nations who make and participate in trade deals in our nation as well. Also, city upgrades have grown more common making the construction business more common and creates more money for the nation. Mines have fueled the development of high-priced jewelry as well. It only seems reasonable that as much as my nation has grown, it remains in Tier 3 but I hope by looking back at what my nation has done in the past decades, it is easy to say withought a doubt my nation deserves Tier 4.
 * Mod Response: approved -Nate
 * Swahili Fallacyman (talk)
 * Tier 3 to Tier 4
 * Swahili is one of the dominant trade powers in the Indian Ocean. From the Arab-Indian Company, Swahili and Caliphate has dominated trade in the Indian Ocean, particularly in the West Indian Ocean. Swahili dominance on commerce had led to the develop of several banks in major cities of Swahili, as well as the formation of the World's first stock exchange, which trades shares on voyages. Introduction of Arcadian crops by Akida has led to increased variety and output of agricultural good in Swahili, and also made Swahili one of the largest cash crop and food crop supplier in the Indian Ocean. Supply of contracted servants from the interior of Africa and also hydraulic engineering funded by banks had led to mass scale plantation farming in Swahili, further increasing output. This has further benefitted trade, as increased demand for these Arcadian foods and spices made Swahili merchants one of the largest merchant force in the Indian Ocean. Technological cooperation with the Caliphate and England had led to more productive production methods, helping Swahili transition towards processed goods too. The develop of processed goods, coupled with the high supply of raw materials, meant that Swahili gained respectable textile, ceramics, sugar refining, papermaking and glass industries. Due to the high demand of merchants, Swahili shipbuilding is one of the most developed shipbuilding industry in the world, producing a merchant fleet of more than 2,000 ships. The conquest of Zimbabwe and colonial expansion also brought to Swahili multiple minerals, which further builds onto the Swahili economy.
 * Mod Response:
 * Godly Kingdom of Lan Xang
 * Trying for Tier 3: Lan Xang has had extensive trade with Korea-China, bengal, and Cambodia. It is modernizing and borrowing technologies from Korea such as the blast furnace that could help its ecnomy Also, it is modernizes its agriculuture and irrgiation base, which could boost its population and crop output.
 * Mod reponse:
 * having computer problems, sorry the format is messed up
 * Cambodia - Derp
 * Unknown to Tier II or III
 * In the algo, it says Khmer is Tier III. Cambodia is basically the successor state of Khmer, so it should be able to get at keast a Tier II. Also extensive trade with Korea-China, Lan Xang and Malaya.
 * Mod Response:
 * Archduchy of Austria
 * Tier 3 going for Tier 4
 * Over the past several years Austria has picked up in development from Trade in Trieste, wine vineries, The New Austrian Bread Basket and more. Production of goods and agricultural development has also increased leading to a better-maintained state. Goods such as clothing and shops plus business have also increased. A variety of industries (if you look through my turns) have also made an appearance. Not only that but it would just make sense.

Tech Tier Upgrade
Mod response – Approved. Deadly State of Mind (talk) 13:53, January 3, 2017 (UTC) Knights Hospitaller Unknown to Tier III (or Tier II if mod decides) The Knights have been weakened but we still have retained modern technology and have been taking in skilled immigrants building small universities and schools. We have also been building up infrastructure
 * Delhi Raj (Dev271 (talk) 10:27, December 31, 2016 (UTC))
 * Unknown (Delhi is not listed). Delhi should be Tier IV.
 * Because of the use of gunpowder, artillery, firearms, communication and postal system from sultanate times, not a feudal nation.
 * Mod Response- Approved. Deadly State of Mind (talk) 13:53, January 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sakha - Shikata ga nai! 02:47, January 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Upgrade from Tier I to Tier 2
 * Because of substantial contact with East Asian nations which has resulted in adoption of modern technology to some degree, incentivized by mining and immigration to profit from it. Also the Yakuts have long had metallurgy since before they migrated to Siberia (http://www.geocurrents.info/place/russia-ukraine-and-caucasus/siberia/the-yakut-sakha-migration-to-central-siberia).
 * Mod Response- Approved. Deadly State of Mind (talk) 13:53, January 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Korea
 * Tier III to Tier IV
 * Korea has independently discovered gunpowder during the late 14th century, and during the same period Korea was one of the first countries to mass-implement the usage of naval artillery. In the 15th century, Korea had the first armoured ship (the "turtleship", though this is the slightly different older model mentioned in the Annals of Joseon), measured meteorology (creating the first Korean rain gauge) for agricultural purposes, and made various astronomical clocks to measure astrology. Not to mention, Korea also uses advanced firearms (such at the matchlock whose blueprints were obtained from Gurkani merchants), and locally-produced gunpowder weapons; all with the access to China, the most advanced national technologically in-game.
 * Mod response – Approved. Deadly State of Mind (talk) 13:53, January 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Knights Hospitaller
 * Unknown to Tier III (or Tier II if mod decides)
 * The Knights have been weakened but we still have retained modern technology and have been taking in skilled immigrants building small universities and schools. We have also been building up infrastructure while we are also reorganising our military. We are non-feudal and try to encourag innovation. We are at least a tech level above the natives and higher native civilisations and are probably Tier III. If Tier III is deemed too high please place the tech at least at Tier II.
 * Tier II approved -Nate
 * Malaya (Sidewinder)
 * Unknown to Tier II (Or which every Tier the mod decides on)
 * Malaya has implemented Chinese and Aryavarta technologies into its navy, and has state capitals that are quite developed. Firearm technology has been encountered and replicated, from China or Gurkani. Trade from Europe also brings technological progress to some extent.
 * Tier II approved -Nate
 * Japan (KawaiiKame)
 * Unknown to Tier IV
 * Japan has implmented Burgundian naval designs, recieved the idea of heliocentrism from Korea in Busan and the Papal States in Nagasaki, and has recieved technological advancements from Burgundy, Korea, Iberia, and the Papal States.
 * Mod response:
 * Korea
 * Tier 4 to Tier 5
 * Korea is now China. Self-explanatory.
 * Mod response –Korea has independently discovered gunpowder during the late 14th century, and during the same period Korea was one of the first countries to mass-implement the usage of naval artillery. In the 15th century, Korea had the first armoured ship (the "turtleship", though this is the slightly different older model mentioned in the Annals of Joseon), measured meteorology (creating the first Korean rain gauge) for agricultural purposes, and made various astronomical clocks to measure astrology. Not to mention, Korea also uses advanced firearms (such at the matchlock whose blueprints were obtained from Gurkani merchants), and locally-produced gunpowder weapons; all with the access to China, the most advanced national technologically in-game.
 * Tondo
 * Unknown to Tier 3
 * The influx of Chinese and European trade has bode well for Tondos technological achievements. The navy is very advanced for the standards in its region, implementing some european designs.
 * Mod response
 * The Punjab Confederacy
 * Unknown- Should be tier 3-4 (Mods Call)
 * The Confederacy has expanded technologically with many universities being opened up for research. Also foreign naval designs have been integrated with native designs creating a hybrid design. The main ports are also highly sophisticated taking 12 years of labour to build and integrates modern English technology. Trade has also helped to spread technological ideas. Former part of Aryavarta and so retains a postal system. With the former territories lacking infrastructure for firearm production, and with most of it wrecked by the Rebellion, the Confederacy utilises English aid to create firearms, and artillery and so are up to a modern standard. Naval academy trains officers to a high standard, while the Army is elite and highly trained.
 * Tier 3 Approved
 * Athabaskan confederation
 * tier one to be tier two
 * I on my own discovered agreculture and Metal working also i created a form of writing wich is a combination between hirglyps and a alphabet.also I founded the Religion of chipmunkism and because of it i got my first official laws i also got 4 villages one with a population of 7 500
 * Approved -Nate
 * Bengal Sultanate
 * Unknown- Should be Tier 4
 * The Sultanate has developed ways to build absolutely massives ships. We have also managed to gain firearms like flintlock guns and produce them on our own. We have developed an education system for reasearch and learning. Much of our tech is derived from French and English weaponry and tools. We managed to be able to make large shipyards and better methods for training our now very strong and sophisticated military. We created newspapers before they were invented in our timeline and we have a postal system. Our homes are french based as well and we also have a sewer system in our nation as well that is in each province. We also have very long well made roads. Our Navy has 100's of ships and we also have a well maintained economy and infrastructure. We also use cannons and produce gun powder plus artillery. When it comes to agriculture and domestication of animals we have also been successful. It only makes sense that my nation should be tier 4.
 * Approvd -Nate
 * Godly Kingdom of Lan Xang - Warrior
 * trying for tier 4, but if not tier iii
 * Lan Xang has imported important technologies from Korea-China, such as the blast furnaces, and thier latest firearm designs in recent years. It is created an advanced irrigigation system as well that connects the Hmong to the regular populace, and the peasants to the city. Bascially, my main justifcaiton for tier 4, is that Lan Xang is bordered by China, a Tier 5 nation, and recently has been trading alot and aquirring technology. But if that is implausilbe i will accept tier 3 instead.
 * Cambodia - Derp
 * Unknown to Tier III or IV (mods call)
 * Being a Korean-Chinese tributary, Cambodia has inherited many technologies from them, such as gun models and blast furnaces. An irrigation system is currently being created, and most roads are paved. It is also a regional trade hub.
 * Swahili Fallacyman (talk)
 * Tier 3 to Tier 4
 * Swahili is one of the technological leaders of the Islamic World (behind the Caliphate). Swahili is the proud user of many advanced production techniques, such as the blast furnace and textile, glass, and sugar manufactories. The Swahili ship building industry is one of the most advanced in the world, producing a merchant fleet of over 2,000 ships, and development of several world leading ship types. While Swahili ships are lacking in firepower due to development from merchant vessels, they pride themselves in mobility and maneuverability. The Swahili also invented ship designs similar to OTL East Indiamen and OTL Barque. The Swahili military is also a respectable force, modeled mainly after the Caliphate military as well as marine tactics developed due to our naval tradition. Swahili is able to produce cannons, ammunition, gunpowder and flintlock guns as a result of technological cooperation with the Caliphate. Swahili also has a well developed infrastructure system, with a road system from Bandar Qasim to Aliwa, and a postal system along the roads. The capital city, Mogadishu had recently undergone a new urban development project and built a well organized and complex sewer system. Newspapers are also published in Zanzibar and Mogadishu. Swahili financial technology is also extremely developed due to the large volume of trade. There are multiple banks in Swahili, as well as the world's first stock exchange in Mogadishu. Swahili also has a fully developed educational system featuring Mosque schools and Madrassas (Universities). These Madrassa contain some of the world's leading scientists and technology, especially for biology and agricultural sciences. As a result, Swahili is the independent co-developer of calculus (Rab-Nints) and the discoverer of cells. In practical purposes, the Madrassa of Mogadishu had also domesticated multiple plant species and introduced agricultural techniques. For example, Swahili was the first user of the four field crop rotation system. The finanacial system and focus on agriculture also means the Swahili have advanced hydraulic engineering technology from multiple experiments and the drier climate of Somalia.
 * Mod Response:
 * Swiss Confederacy The Expendable Broccoli Rob (Say Hi!) 03:50, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Tier Unknown to Tier 2(and rising)
 * Several Universities were built, a new swiss language(to create a unified national identity), and stuff was brought back from an expedition to the Caliphate, which is a higher tech tier.

Discussion
=Information and Resources=

Current Map
1654

Algo
For the algo please see the Rules and Algorithm page for everything you need.

Rules and Algo page

=General Discussion=

Leaves of Absence
I will not be online because of internet problems as I am attending a wedding. I will be back online by 4 February. --Dev271 (talk) 16:55, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Nations to choose from
Hi, I'm Firestorm. I've wanted to join PMIV for quite some time, and my friend told me it's ok. But, when I went to choose a nation, I noticed some states that were visible on the map were not found on the list. Examples include the small states in modern day South Africa and Australia. Could anyone guide me as to what countries are actually available?

Edit: is this state in Modern Day Georgia Pontus?

Thanks, FirestormBlizzard (talk) 07:57, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

That is indeed Pontus.

02:40, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Inactivity
After what length of time can somebody be considered inactive and removed from a nation? Yours, Emp --His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Romanus (talk) 08:08, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

At least two weeks or depending on the nation longer.

02:40, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Mod event suggestion for Borneo
Tondo invades Borneo because of it's colonial ambitions. It fights the Sultanate of Kalimanstan following its capture of Borneo, who temporarily halts Tondonese advances in Indonesia.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 19:01, May 14, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123

How Does a Tribe become a Nation in this map game?
Sorry for being such a scrub.

FirestormBlizzard (talk) 07:30, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Lol firestorm

the great lord of swift birds (talk) 23:38, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

Objections
Sorry, but a number of users are actively responding to my turns despite them being secret. For example, many nations have begun anti-piracy operations against me despite me at no time illegally preying on their shipping. In response to me SECRETLY hiding a limited number of 'citizens' in un-occupied areas of the East African coast, NOT ACTUALLY DOING ANY PIRACY, I have had nations attack me. My turns are secret so this is rather unfair, but the two nations doing so are both moderators so I do not want to anger them. -Emp

An idea on how Long to wait for a response to my colonial ambitions?
Yup, I wanted to know an estimated time it will take for me to get any responses on the talk page.

Thx, FirestormBlizzard (talk) 12:08, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Helping Sultan Whateva post
Hello.

I need you mods help with getting Sultan Whateva able to post. I am currently posting what he tells me on discord, and yes, I can do it, Person did it with oct, it has been done multiple times before. But we have a player who cannot edit the page, and I want that to change.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 12:29, May 21, 2017 (UTC)warriorrofreedom123

What does this actually mean
 The Earl of Oxford lauches a coup to take out the King of England 

It's kind of vague as to what happens here. I mean how does he launches a coup, does it succeed? Is it up to my interpretation? Person67 (talk) 05:28, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Your actions decide whether he succeeds or not. it's based it off the Earl of Essex revolt in OTL Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  02:20, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

HELP
Can i please have help with an algorithm? I need to know if me attacking Chinook worked.

Event suggestions III
Some suggestions for events and states (or ATL equivalents) that could appear, as of 1701.


 * A great migration of Fula nomads into western Mali causes the west coast to fragment into independent states. The Fula carve out their own empire, known as Great Fulo (only triggered if Morocco invades Mali).
 * In eastern Borneo, the Kingdom of Kutai Kartanegara conquers its neighbor, Kutai Martadipura, uniting Kutai under a single dynasty. (Kutai has existed for centuries, maybe now it can be shown on the map?)
 * A prominent Maratha warrior of the Bhonsle clan is proclaimed King of the Marathas and promptly invades Goa. (Not Punjab, for real this time)
 * Lan Na drifts into de facto independence from Siam, but remains a tributary.
 * Java erupts into civil war due to dynastic claims and old rivalries. Various pretenders emerge to claim the throne or establish their own kingdoms, some asking for support from France, Burgundy, or Iberia. The effects of the war reach far beyond Java, though, as neighboring states see an opportunity to revolt against foreign rule in absence of a strong military presence. The interior kingdoms of Bali expel the French and regain independence. Revolts occur in Timor, Brunei, Banten and Sumatra, while unrest reaches all corners of Indonesia.
 * In the wake of the Caliphate's numerous power struggles, the Mehri people found a new dynasty in the Mahra region of eastern Yemen. The Mahra Sultanate is self-ruling and subordinate to the Caliphate, but altogether separate from the Jaffarids. The island of Socotra soon comes under Mehri influence, as they share a similar culture and would have better protection under Mehri rule than under the Qamarids of Madagascar.
 * Kuba and Lunda revolt from Al-Afriqia for religious reasons. Kuba raises a sizable army, while Lunda is protected by its geographical isolation.
 * The kingdoms of Ndongo and Matamba unite.
 * With the influence of the Caliph diminishing, the Kingdom of Kaffa and the Oromo Kingdom of Jimma break off as independent.
 * The Qamarids, ruling from Madagascar, are unable to hold any direct influence over Somaliland after being separated from their Omani homeland and vassalized by the Swahili. Realizing this, the Somali expel their former overlords from Berbera and Bandar Qasim.
 * The Kingdom of Gorontalo conquers the northern tip of Sulawesi from Banggai.
 * The Empire of Kanem-Bornu begins to decline and sees a reduction of territory to the area around Lake Chad.
 * The Kingdom of Shilluk is founded on the banks of the White Nile in Sudan.
 * A new khanate forms in Xinjiang around the city of Kumul.
 * The Kazakhs revolt from the Great Khanate, establishing their own Kazakh khanates in the western part of the realm. In the midst of the revolt, the Torghut Oirats begin a migration west in search of better pastures, expelling the the resident Nogai from the Caspian Sea and encamping on Russian territory near the Volga River.

Other events

 * Pirates attack settlements in Newfoundland and Labrador.
 * Corruption grows in the French Bahamas after it is discovered that the colonial governors accepted bribes from pirates.
 * An earthquake hits Jamaica, causing extensive damage to coastal settlements on the island. Much of Port Royal is swept out to sea.
 * The Wabanaki raid European settlements in northern Arcadia, from Nova Belgica and Prins Rupert Island to the English settlements along the St. Lawrence River.
 * After over a century of stagnation, the tribes of the Great Khanate now feud for internal power, resulting in a very decentralized state. In many areas, national unity gives way to tribal identity, leading some to question the authority of the Great Khan. The Oirat tribes in particular rise to prominence, and other areas become autonomous in Xinjiang.
 * Gold is found in In the Californian state and near its borders.

Updated periodically.

General534 (talk) 17:00, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with these, except for great fulo. In order for great fulo to happen, Morroco must invade Mali. That is why great fulo formed otl, morrocan invasion of Songhai.

user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 15:43, June 2, 2017 (UTC)warrioroffreedom123

Fair enough, but Morocco seems to be leaning in that direction anyway so it's only a matter of time. General534 (talk) 10:18, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

French Revolution Event Suggestion
Background: Alright, France is in the perfect state to have a revolution. It's colonial empire is weakening, it is gettng outclassed by other powers (England and Burgundy), and revolutionary ideas are probably spreading from Belkas and from the French Colonies.

My Suggestion: My suggestion would be a series of events, starting with the king's assassination, that would make a revolution.

New nations
I have a few questions about creating a new nation:

1. Can the new nation be created inside another nation? For example, If I decide to create a new country that would take away half of a pre-exsisting country, would that work?

2. What are great nomadic hordes?

3. What is the difference between tribes and countries?

4. When does a tribe becomes a country?

As one of the mods of the game ill be happy to answer your questions.

1. No a new nation cannot be created like that out of another one like your speaking of. Some of these users have been involved for all or most of the game and turning around and taking it all away for someone else to have their way with half their country just isnt fair. However if a nation revolts away and tries to become independent like for example Ireland revolting from Great Britain, you could take over as soon as Ireland was independent fighting or after they won or secured said independence.

2. Great Nomadic hordes were a powerful force in the beginning of the game that have more or less fallen off due to the evolution of military tactics and them getting mauled pretty bad in the 1500's. there are only two major ones left and they are truly not even that "great" anymore

3. The Difference between a tribe and a nation is a Tribe is a group of people that more or less has not truly settled down and become a bound to the land society yet. Its like looking at the Aztecs vs the Comanche. The Aztecs have established language, huge cities, highly developed culture. A Tribe while maybe having highly developed culture, does not have huge cities, usually doesnt have their language written down either.

4. A tribe becomes a country when they settle down and start establishing permanent settlements, farming etc etc... it takes a good amount of time and usually going from a totally unsettled tribe to society requires either centuries of development or outside interference.

Thank you for the quick response! So, if I understand this correctly, half of the country could, theoretically, become a new country, if it would revolve. How does this work? When does a nation revolve?

<span style="color:green; background-color:yellow; text-shadow: grey 1px 3px 2px; letter-spacing: 2px; border: 2px solid cyan"> GreenPotato 19:16, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

He means "revolt", as in "rebel". For instance, Scotland could revolt from England and become independent. General534 (talk) 15:28, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

locked
why is it locked IkeAngew (talk) 16:34, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Prewar Stage

 * Ethiopia :86
 * ​Population: (15 million): 60
 * Government: Absolute Monarchy - + 6
 * Economy: Tier II +10
 * Technology:  (Tier III) +10
 * Tripoli state:76
 *   population: (10 million): 40
 * Government: Oligarchy/Council - +6
 * Economy: Tier III - +10
 * Technology:Tier IV - +20

Invasion of Southern Egypt

 * Tripoli: + 21.37
 * Army Size: (65,000) + (16,250) = 81,250 (24.37)
 * Navy Size: (300) (30.5)
 * Location: Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority: -3
 * Great Leader: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Ethiopa: + 23.5
 * Army Size: (75,000) (22.5)
 * Navy Size: 0
 * Location:Near a major river or the coast: +1
 * Great General: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Result
 * Maghrib:
 * Ethiopa:
 * Battle Tier: Tier 3

Prewar Stage

 * Ethiopia :86
 * ​Population: (15 million): 60
 * Government: Absolute Monarchy - + 6
 * Economy: Tier II +10
 * Technology:  (Tier III) +10
 * Tripoli state:76
 *   population: (10 million): 40
 * Government: Oligarchy/Council - +6
 * Economy: Tier III - +10
 * Technology:Tier IV - +20

Faiyum Battle

 * Tripoli: + 20.87
 * Army Size: (65,000) + (16,250) = 81,250 (24.37)
 * Navy Size: (300) (30.5)
 * Location: Near a city: -3.5
 * Great Leader: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Ethiopa: + 20
 * Army Size: (75,000) (22.5)
 * Navy Size: 0
 * Location:Near a city: -3.5
 * Great General: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Result
 * Maghrib:
 * Ethiopa:
 * Battle Tier: Tier 2

Tripolian push for Occupied Egypt
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 * Ethiopia :86
 * ​Population: (10 million): 60
 * Government: Absolute Monarchy - + 6
 * Economy: Tier II +10
 * Technology:  (Tier III) +10
 * Tripoli state:76
 *   population: (10 million): 40
 * Government: Oligarchy/Council - +6
 * Economy: Tier III - +10
 * Technology:Tier IV - +20


 * Tripoli: + 21.37
 * Army Size: (65,000) + (16,250) = 81,250 (24.37)
 * Navy Size: (300) (30.5)
 * Location: Near a major river or the coast with naval superiority: -3
 * Great Leader: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Ethiopa: + 23.5
 * Army Size: (75,000) (22.5)
 * Navy Size: 0
 * Location:
 * Near a major river or the coast: +1
 * Great General: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Result
 * Maghrib:
 * Ethiopa:
 * Battle Tier: Tier 3

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 * ======PUSH FOR WADI SOMETHING======
 * Ethiopia :70
 * ​Population: (10 million): 40
 * Government: Elective Monarchy - + 5
 * Economy: Tier II +10
 * Technology:  (Tier III) +10
 * Tripoli state:76
 *   population: (10 million): 40
 * Government: Oligarchy/Council - +6
 * Economy: Tier III - +10
 * Technology:Tier IV - +20


 * Tripoli: + 48.82
 * Army Size: (65,000) + (16,250) = 81,250 (24.37)
 * Navy Size: (300) (30.5)
 * Location: Near a city: -3.5
 * Great Leader: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Ethiopa: + 20
 * Army Size: (55,000) (16.5)
 * Navy Size: 0
 * Location: Near a city: +4
 * Great General: +0
 * Attrition: +0
 * Blunder:
 * Result
 * Maghrib:
 * Ethiopa:
 * Battle Tier: Tier 3

Prewar Stage

 * South India: 86
 * ​Population: 50
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +15
 * Technology: +15
 * ​Telangana: 36
 * ​Population: 10
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +10
 * Technology: +10

Battle Stage

 * Battle of Golconda (1733)
 * South India: 64
 * ​Army size: 56+6
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Telangana: 14
 * ​Army size: 12
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 


 * Tally
 * South India: 150
 * Defender name: 50
 * Battle Result: Tier 2 (300%)
 * Siege of Hyderabad (1734)
 * South India: 54
 * ​Army size: 56+6
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: -8
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Telangana: 24
 * ​Army size: 12
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +12
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 


 * Tally
 * South India: 140
 * Defender name: 60
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (233%)
 * Siege of Hyderabad (1735)
 * South India: 54
 * ​Army size: 56+6
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: -8
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Telangana: 24
 * ​Army size: 12
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +12
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 


 * Tally
 * South India: 140
 * Defender name: 60
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (233%)
 * Siege of Hyderabad (1736)
 * South India: 54
 * ​Army size: 56+6
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: -8
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Telangana: 24
 * ​Army size: 12
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +12
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 140
 * Defender name: 60
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (233%). Siege score crosses 500% ie 699%. Hyderabad falls and Telangana is annexed.

Prewar Stage

 * South India: 145
 * ​Population: 100
 * Government: +5
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20
 * ​France: 72
 * ​Population: 5
 * Government: +7
 * Economy: +30
 * Technology: +30

Battle Stage

 * Siege of Carnatic French Outpost (1761)
 * South India: 23
 * ​Army size: 21 (30,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * France: 0.5
 * ​Army size: 0.5 (These outposts wont be having more than a 100,000 people and the France player hasnt mentioned anything)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 168
 * France: 72.5
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (231%)
 * Siege of Bengali French Outpost (1761)
 * South India: 28
 * ​Army size: 28 (40,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * France: 0.5
 * ​Army size: 0.5
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 *  Tally 


 * South India: 173
 * France: 72.5
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (238%)
 * Siege of Carnatic French Outpost (1762)
 * South India: 23
 * ​Army size: 21 (30,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * France: 0.5
 * ​Army size: 0.5 (These outposts wont be having more than a 100,000 people and the France player hasnt mentioned anything)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 168
 * France: 72.5
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (231%)
 * Siege of Bengali French Outpost (1762)
 * South India: 28
 * ​Army size: 28 (40,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * France: 0.5
 * ​Army size: 0.5
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 173
 * France: 72.5
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (238%)


 * Siege of Carnatic French Outpost (1763)
 * South India: 23
 * ​Army size: 21 (30,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +2
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * France: 0.5
 * ​Army size: 0.5 (These outposts wont be having more than a 100,000 people and the France player hasnt mentioned anything)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 168
 * France: 72.5
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (231%). Siege score crosses 500% (693%). Carnatic French outpost falls and is annexed by the Maharajya.


 * Siege of Bengali French Outpost (1763)
 * South India: 28
 * ​Army size: 28 (40,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * France: 0.5
 * ​Army size: 0.5
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: 0
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 173
 * France: 72.5
 * Battle Result: Tier 1 (238%). Siege score crosses 500% (714%). Bengali French outpost falls and is annexed by the Maharajya.

Prewar Stage

 * Dravidia: 145
 * ​Population: 100
 * Government: +5
 * Economy: +20
 * Technology: +20
 * ​Balochistan: 47
 * ​Population: 12
 * Government: +5
 * Economy: +15
 * Technology: +15

Battle Stage

 * Invasion and subsequent siege of Uttarangar (1775)
 * Dravidia: 100
 * ​Army size: 80 (100,000 trained+30,000 trained conscripts)
 * Navy size: 25 (500 ships)
 * Location: -5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Balochistan: 26
 * ​Army size: 21 (30,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * Dravidia: 245
 * Balochistan: 73
 * Battle Result: Battle Tier 2 (335%)
 * Siege of Uttarangar (1776)
 * Dravidia: 100
 * ​Army size: 80 (100,000 trained+30,000 trained conscripts)
 * Navy size: 25 (500 ships)
 * Location: -5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Balochistan: 26
 * ​Army size: 21 (30,000 trained)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +5
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 245
 * Balochistan: 73
 * Battle Result: Battle Tier 2 (335%). The siege of Uttarnagar ends. 25% of the Baloch forces are lost.
 * Attack on Kalat (1777)
 * Dravidia: 65
 * ​Army size: 80 (100,000 trained+30,000 trained conscripts)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: -10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Balochistan: 25
 * ​Army size: 15
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 215
 * Balochistan: 72
 * Battle Result: Battle Tier 2 (300%). 
 * Siege on Kalat (1778)
 * Dravidia: 65
 * ​Army size: 80 (100,000 trained+30,000 trained conscripts)
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: -10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Balochistan: 25
 * ​Army size: 15
 * Navy size: 0
 * Location: +10
 * Great leader: N/A
 * Blunder: 
 * Tally
 * South India: 215
 * Balochistan: 72
 * Battle Result: Battle Tier 2 (300%). Siege of Kalat ends. Balochistan falls and is annexed by Dravidia.

Bremerhaven vs Scandinavia
Prewar Bremerhaven Population: .04 Government: 7 Economy: 5 Technology: 20 32.04

Scandinavia Population: 32 Government: 7 Economy: 30 Technology: 30 99

Battle stage Bremerhaven Army Size: 2 Navy Size: N/A Great Leader:N/A Location: Capital from the sea +10 Attacking Center of Government +4.5 Attacking City + 3.5 Blunder: -3

Scandinavia Army Size: 53 Navy Size: 3 Great Leader: N/A Location: Capital From the sea - 10 attacking center of government - 4.5 attacking city- 3.5 Blunder: -1

Post war Bremerhaven Total score: 52 Scandinavian Total Score: 139 237%

Prewar Bremerhaven Population: .04 Government: 7 Economy: 5 Technology: 20 32.04

Scandinavia Population: 32 Government: 7 Economy: 30 Technology: 30 99

Battle stage Bremerhaven Army Size: 2 Navy Size: N/A Great Leader:N/A Location: Capital from the sea +10 Attacking Center of Government +4.5 Attacking City + 3.5 Blunder: -2

Scandinavia Army Size: 58 Navy Size: 3 Great Leader: N/A Location: Capital From the sea - 10 attacking center of government - 4.5 attacking city- 3.5 Blunder: -4

Bremerhaven total score: 53 Scandinavia Total Score: 140 264% + 237%

Blunder: -9 37.5

Saxony total score: 36.5 Scandinavia total score: 105 204% + 294%+ 291%

[MOD EVENT REQUEST] Italy: The Powderkeg of Europe
Also posted on my Sicily OOC:

This may be a bit random, but do you think it would be appropriate to name Italy this timeline's "powderkeg of Europe?" With Bulgarian dominance in the Balkans, this most certainly can't be applied there. However, throughout this game, the various powers have been competing for influence in Italy, sometimes leading to bloody conflicts: the Kingdom of Italy, the Sicilian War of Independence, Papal expansion wars, and now the current Italian Crisis. As of right now, even with negotiations in Rome, we're on the verge of a Seven Years' War.

I think it would be appropriate for, as an event in 1731, that a European country (preferably a neutral one) publish a newspaper giving Italy that title.

-- Orange (talk) 19:35, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

Reference map of India
Since there has been some confusion about the various kingdoms of India, here is reference map and table of nations from the late 1600s. Foreign relations of each state may have changed significantly since the Treaty of Gaya. For instance, Malwa and Goa are currently influenced by European powers. General534 (talk) 23:18, July 13, 2017 (UTC)



Prewar Stage

 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;">

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 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Balochoistan state:76
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> '  population: ' (300,000):
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Government:Iq’at  - +5
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Economy: Tier II - +
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Technology:Tier III - +
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Persia: 75
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Population: (10 million): 40
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Government: Elective Monarchy: 5
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Economy Tier III: 10
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt;line-height:1.38;"> Technology Tier IV: 20

Invasion

 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> persia:40.75

<p style="font-size:14px;">
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Army Size: (16,250) = (48.75)
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Location:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Great Leader: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Attrition: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:22pt;line-height:1.38;"> Blunder:

<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:15pt;font-size:14px;line-height:1.38;"> Balocistan: + 40.5


 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:18pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Army Size: (2,250) (6.75)
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Navy Size: 0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Location:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Great General: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Attrition: +0
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Blunder:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Result

<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:15pt;line-height:1.38;"> '''Please Move this to algo section and clean up the formatting. I am willing to retroactively apply this to the turn in which it was posted after its fixed -Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  06:00, July 27, 2017 (UTC)''' <h3 dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:15pt;line-height:1.38;"> Mod event complaint ''' Prussia has a quick restoration movement, led by a cabal of 40 nobles, proclaiming independent Kingdom of Prussia and Luxembourg once again. The military is generally undeceided, leading to a civil war in the nation. '''
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Persia:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:1.38;"> Balchoistan:
 * <p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:15pt;line-height:1.38;"> Battle Tier: Tier 3

<u style="font-size:16px;">With no clear winner in sight, the prussian civil war continues, including many bloody battles.

For christ sake, the first mod event just shows a general lack of knowledge. Prussia and luxembourg is indepdent of Burgundy, they share a monarch. It would be one thing for a rival claimant to the throne or for the Prussians nobles to argue for a Parlimeant so they could check the power of a foreign King. This event is confusing as anything though. Yet I will presume the basic idea of it is one side wants to support Burgundy and the other side wants to not be allied with Burgundy.

The second mod event is just lazy. The civil war just contuines, I understand mods have limited time especially now some of them are moving around and lack internet but you can't just make civil wars and then do events like that. Some bloody battles, for fuck sake. At least think a little bit about a civil war or just ask a user who is a player in the area for an understanding of what is going on. This mod event with Saxony and Bohemia shows a shocking lack of thought from the mods. Bohemia is larger than Saxony yet Saxony is just marching in. Take the time to think about events rather than just drop interesting or violent ideas. Yes being a moderator does unfortunately take precious time which many of us not gifted with but then draft in more moderators do not just do this. Person67 (talk) 23:22, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Britain develops modern warships (this makes you the first with the new ship stuff Person you have 15 years use it wisely).

This mod event appears to be entirely arbitrary. Other nations have had ships of the line since the 1600s alongside Britain. I'd argue that none of them deserve to be first or have a head start of 15 years, when the concept has been around for 80 years. Grant the algo bonus to those who have seriously developed the technology in their turns (Britain, Burgundy, Belka, maybe Russia), and make the rest wait 15 years. General534 (talk) 04:12, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Mali event suggestions
''' Following Maghreb's invasion, the Empire of Mali collapses into fragmented states vying for regional power. Actual Maghrebi control rests in the Timbuktu area, while the rest of the empire rejects the authority of the puppet sultan. The central Mali rump state (ruled by the sultan's son) remains under Maghrebi influence but is de facto independent. '''

''' A great migration of Fula nomads into western Mali upsets control of the Atlantic coast, as many new kingdoms spring up in the wake of Mali's collapse. The Fula carve out their own empire, known as Great Fulo. '''

These don't necessarily happen in the same turn, but they can. General534 (talk) 17:59, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Responding Events to Ethiopia
(Ethiopia became a hermit kingdom and one giant monastery, this can't make muslim communities, the caliphate in Cairo, and traders who make money by going through egypt)

After the Emperor closing off the borders and declaring Ethiopia a theocracy, several Muslim communities in Egypt declare their independence.

The Caliph denounces Ethiopia for closing its borders and not allowing Muslims to visit him.

Or something like that. Squidzo&#39;s meat house (talk) 16:46, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Available Countries
Hi, I'm a bit confused as to what nations are available. Could anyone help me out? I am especially interested in the large Anatolian Nation. I would like to know its name please (I assume it is the Emirate of Rum).

Thank You, FirestormBlizzard (talk) 07:13, July 20, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the large country in central Anatolia is Rum and it's available. It's also probably a sultanate by this point. General534 (talk) 00:24, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Request to join Map Game
Could I join this map game as either the Apache, Navajo or Pueblo Native American Tribes?

KingCor1 (talk) 16:03, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Pueblo are taken. Apart from that, you do you babydoll

--They Call Me Guns

Map Change
Could add my claims the go from hupa to OTL coosbay and the Yurok and Karuk to my country here a map of it

A simple question from an old man
Where is discord? Heh.

PitaKang- (Talk to me | Kill count: 8)

We have a discord now? -Toby

Mein gott, I was just about to ask this question...(well, mostly along the lines of "howdo I gain access the discord")-Lx (leave me a message) 01:23, August 29, 2017 (UTC)

Yo, another question from another old man, how do I join the discord? NicDonalds  23:11, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Heres a link https://discord.gg/WmTEvk3

Japanese Invasion of Jakarta (1786)
<p style="font-size:14px;">First Battle of Jakarta (1786) <p style="font-size:14px;">Japan

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<p style="font-size:14px;line-height:inherit;">Java+
 * Result – +118
 * Population – +100 (Japan)
 * Location – -20%
 * Total: +80
 * Government – +8 (Celestial Empire)
 * Technology – +10 (Tier III)
 * Economy – +20 (Tier IV)

<p style="font-size:16px;">1st Battle of Java (1786)
 * Result-+75
 * Population-  +40
 * Location: +10
 * Government: +5 (Feudal monarchy?)
 * Technology: +10 (Tier III)
 * Economy +20 (Tier IV)

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 * Japan (Attacking)
 * Result – +100
 * Navy – +67.5 (1,350 ships)
 * Army  +42.5=  +30 (100,000 regulars) + 12.5 (25,000 conscripts)
 * Location – -10  (Attacking capital)
 * GG/GA/GL – N/A
 * Blunder –  -?
 * Attrition – 0 (No winter in Java)
 * Java (Defending)
 * Result – + 85
 * Army= +45 (150,000)
 * Navy= +30 (300)
 * Location – +10 (At capital)
 * GG/GA/GL - N/A
 * Blunder –  ?
 * Attrition-0 (No winter in Java)
 * Casualties:
 * Japan:
 * Java:
 * Java::  + 75( +85-100 = -15) = 75-15= 60
 * Japan: +118/60= 1.966666667% = 196.667%
 * Japan wins by 196.667%
 * Battle Tier 0, both sides lose 5%
 * Japan: 100,000 - 5% = 95,000
 * Java: 150,000 - 5% = 142,500
 * Java: 150,000 - 5% = 142,500

Hey can somebody update the Ethiopian Empire page's land map with my current land?

Japanese Reconquest of Nagasaki
<p style="font-size:14px;">Japan

<p style="font-size:16px;">

<p style="font-size:16px;">

<p style="font-size:14px;line-height:inherit;">French lease Nagasaki
 * Result – +138
 * Population – +100 (25,000,000+)
 * Location  0
 * Total:
 * Government – +8 (Celestial Empire)
 * Technology – +10 (Tier III)
 * Economy – +20 (Tier IV)

<p style="font-size:16px;">1st Battle of Nagasaki(1786)
 * Result-+71.18
 * Population-  +.18 (45,000) Nagasaki)
 * Location: +9 (Heavily Fortified CIty)
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy)
 * Technology: +30 (Tier V)
 * Economy +25 (Tier V)

<p style="font-size:16px;">


 * Japan (Attacking)
 * Result – +52
 * Navy – +25  500
 * Army  +35=  +22.5 (75,000 regulars) + 12.5 (25,000 conscripts)
 * Location – -8 (Attacking fortress city)
 * GG/GA/GL – N/A
 * Blunder –  -?
 * Attrition – N/A
 * French Nagasaki (Defending)
 * Result – + 12
 * Army= +3 (10,000)
 * Navy= 0
 * Location – +9 (Heavy fortified city)
 * GG/GA/GL - N/A
 * Blunder –  ?
 * Attrition-N/A
 * Casualties:
 * Japan:
 * Java:
 * French Nagasaki::  + 71.18( +12-52 = -40) = 71.18-40= 31.18
 * Japan: +138/31.18= 4.42591404747=442.6%
 * Japan wins by 442.6%
 * Battle Tier 2, French Nagasaki loses 25% of forces in the siege
 * French Nagasaki: 10,000-2,500= 7,500
 * French Nagasaki: 10,000-2,500= 7,500

Japanese Invasion of Jakarta (1786-1788)
<p style="font-size:14px;">2nd Battle of Jakarta (1787)

<p style="font-size:14px;">Japan

<p style="font-size:16px;">

<p style="font-size:16px;">

<p style="font-size:16px;">

<p style="font-size:14px;line-height:inherit;">Java+
 * Result – +118
 * Population – +100 (Japan)
 * Location – -20%
 * Total: +80
 * Government – +8 (Celestial Empire)
 * Technology – +10 (Tier III)
 * Economy – +20 (Tier IV)

<p style="font-size:16px;">

<p style="font-size:16px;">2nd Battle of Java (1787)
 * Result-+75
 * Population-  +40
 * Location: +10
 * Government: +5 (Feudal monarchy?)
 * Technology: +10 (Tier III)
 * Economy +20 (Tier IV)

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 * Japan (Attacking)
 * Result – +98.5
 * Navy – +67.5 (1,350 ships)
 * Army  +41=  +28.5 (95,000 regulars) + 12.5 (25,000 conscripts)
 * Location – -10  (Attacking capital)
 * GG/GA/GL – N/A
 * Blunder –  -?
 * Attrition – 0 (No winter in Java)
 * Java (Defending)
 * Result – + 82.75
 * Army= +42.75 (142,500)
 * Navy= +30 (300)
 * Location – +10 (At capital)
 * GG/GA/GL - N/A
 * Blunder –  ?
 * Attrition-0 (No winter in Java)
 * Casualties:
 * Japan:
 * Java:
 * Java::  + 75( +82.75-98.5 = -15.75) = 75-15.75= 59.25
 * Japan: +118/59.25= 1.991 = 199.1% (1787) + 196.667% (1786) = 3.95826118143 = 395.83% Total War Score,
 * Japan wins by 395.83%
 * Battle Tier 2, Java loses 25% of her forces defending Java
 * Japan: 95,000
 * Java: 142,500 -25%= 106500
 * Java: 142,500 -25%= 106500

Japanese Reconquest of Nagasaki Edit
<p style="font-size:14px;">Japan

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<p style="font-size:14px;line-height:inherit;">French lease Nagasaki
 * Result – +138
 * Population – +100 (25,000,000+)
 * Location  0
 * Total:
 * Government – +8 (Celestial Empire)
 * Technology – +10 (Tier III)
 * Economy – +20 (Tier IV)

<p style="font-size:16px;">2nd Battle of Nagasaki (1787)
 * Result-+71.18
 * Population-  +.18 (45,000) Nagasaki)
 * Location: +9 (Heavily Fortified CIty)
 * Government: +7 (Absolute Monarchy)
 * Technology: +30 (Tier V)
 * Economy +25 (Tier V)

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 * Japan (Attacking)
 * Result – +52
 * Navy – +25  500
 * Army  +35=  +22.5 (75,000 regulars) + 12.5 (25,000 conscripts)
 * Location – -8 (Attacking fortress city)
 * GG/GA/GL – N/A
 * Blunder –  -?
 * Attrition – N/A
 * French Nagasaki (Defending)
 * Result – + 10.25
 * Army= +2.25 (7.500)
 * Navy= 0
 * Location – +9 (Heavy fortified city)
 * GG/GA/GL - N/A
 * Blunder –  ?
 * Attrition-N/A
 * Casualties:
 * Japan:
 * Java:
 * French Nagasaki::  + 71.18( +10.25-52 = -41.75) = 71.18-41.75= 29.43
 * Japan: +138/29.43=  4.68909276249= 468.9% (1787) + 442.6% (1786)=  9.13109276249% = 913.11%
 * Japan wins by 913.11%
 * Ultimate Tier French Nagasaki loses 100% of forces in the siege, Japan reconquers Nagasaki
 * French Nagasaki: 10,000-2,500= 7,500 - 7,500 = 0
 * French Nagasaki: 10,000-2,500= 7,500 - 7,500 = 0

Leaving PMIV
In case no one caught this on Discord a few days ago, I've officially quit PMIV due to school, and because I've frankly lost enjoyment for the game. No one is at fault for this, I'm just a bit worn out. This means I will no longer be making maps either (I suggest whoever wants to replace me as mapmaker ask the mods first though).

If anyone has questions they can PM me on Discord.

Thanks for the game, friends, and may it not descend into ASBness!

Farewell,

General534 (talk) 13:42, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Resignation
Hello,

You all know no one loves this game and everything it stands for as much as me, but I will have to take this moment to bid adieu. My skills as a mod and a player are not suited for the modern era, and would only cause more grief than I already caused in the past. You all are the best set of people I could as for to play this game, and you all should be very proud of the collective project, and integrated universe you continue to help forge. I will try to stick around as an emeritas or other beurocratic-sounding unofficial role, who knows.

Without further ado, I'll catch you all in the 21st century Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  00:38, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

inb4 Nate comes back 30 turns later as a mod like last time

n8 is just an attention whore who wants ppl to throw kebabs at him

Goodbye Nate Dev Here (Beware) 04:41, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Aww, bye :( you were a good guide and I hope we can still talk :) byyye -Ethiopian Empire The History Nerd

My map changes
Basically I Annexed Modern Day Ethiopian Lands, so yeah, I am The Empire of Ethiopia BTW

Hawaiian Map Changes


Not sure where to post this so I apologize if this is in the wrong spot. Can Hawaii's expansion be added to the next map? Here is a map of the territory in 1750, which is more or less accurate for what Hawaii has currently. From this map the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands, Line Islands, and Marshall Islands should be colored. Also, not shown on this map, the Santa Cruz Islands (northwest of Tonga) should also be colored. If you'd like you can also add the other green NPC states on here, and if you do, the Polynesian Confederacy should be colored as a vassal/puppet of Hawaii, and should basically encompass all of OTL French Polynesia. Thank you, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 18:28, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

This is a really cool map of ATL Oceana, but I'm kind of hurt you never included Uluru :/ Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  21:47, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

This is an old one from before I knew about Uluru actually, but I'll be sure to include them on the next map. Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 00:23, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Questions about Principia Moderni series in general
So I have some questions about the Principia Moderni series like...

How long does each Instalment of the series take? Do people get to suggest Nations for the next PM?

Those are my basic questions :)

fix map
put me and my claims on it ISSACANGEW (talk) 04:30, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Mistake on 1800 map
Ok the latest 1800 map,there is a mistake, Egypt is shown to own the Sudan Region, but it doesn't according to the Treaty of Baghdad, it only owns modern day Egypt, Ethiopia still owns The Sudan Region.

not only that my nation is not even on it ISSACANGEW (talk) 19:14, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Brony in the Marines (talk) 00:14, October 2, 2017 (UTC)Brony in the MarinesBrony in the Marines (talk) 00:14, October 2, 2017 (UTC)

Can I join in?