User talk:Vivaporius

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War Thunder
Do you play it? If so, could you tell me your username so we can squad up? Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:31, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Handle? Username you mean? Mine's implad. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:08, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Just added you. You need to have an account for me to be able to add you, lol. When you get online, I'll be able to message you in game :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:20, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

NO!! :(  Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:38, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Is this the one with the Axum and the Great Khmet Empire? Well, if you send me the link to the wiki again, I'll be able to pitch in, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:23, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

SOCrelo
Hey! Remember this game? Well, I was bored and decided to remake it.

Join.

No, really. Join.

(Guns, who is too lazy to write out his sig)

In the Ruins of the French Empire
I invite you to join my map game. In the Ruins of the French Empire (Map Game). Octivian Marius (talk) 01:30, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Peace
No, I can't give you either of those. How about Mindoro or? Panay?

15:44, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva. In PM2, you have the chance to claim all of the Philippines as your vassals still fought in the war. Plus, I'll be able to post sometimes. Thank you for the guns, btw. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:18, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Viva, I haven't played PM2 in a while and I think right now the Levant is in personal union with the Arabian Federation or however Von's nation is called right now. Fed (talk) 15:43, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

^Yeah its in personal union with the Arabian Federation and Italia. It won't be broken up any time soon as the nations are in a larger military alliance too. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 10:49, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

So, in this war, would I please be able to have Kongo. I have wanted it for ages, please? Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:52, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I guess. Well - its cruch time this year. Plus, are you ready to fly for glory?! Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:31, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Oh man, its loading up update 1.33 and I'm not sure when it'll be finished. :(  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:44, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. :)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:54, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

War Thunder, now! :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:23, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

So... any thoughts on your war vs Normandy. I mean, its kinda close to home, much like how you said my Hobyo-Somalia is close to home for you. I kind of have this thing for Normandy, and I'd like to have mainland European Normandy. You will still get all the other vassals/protectorates, but I want their mainland. Is there any way to work this out? One solution I see is that you get all of Hobyo-Somalia except for the coastal regions. Then you give me Nuovo Milano and the Mogadishan coast as well as Normandy. This is all to prevent claims of ASB, and also, the Normans will rebel in an instant. It is only logical for them to do so. {Reximus Sig} 10:34, August 12, 2013 (UTC).

Things just got a bit better... Wales just got the needed 33% to annex all of the Dutch lands. Congo and Warqama are now up for grabs. Now, understand, there is no reason for me to just give the to you, but a land swap for Normandy isn't to bad of an idea, now is it? What do you offer for the both of them? (Note: I may just chose to hang on to them) {Reximus Sig}

Ethiopia-Selk'nam relations
Hey - we haven't had much in game interaction but I'm going to start sending some emmissaries your way. I think you and I are trying to do some of the same things in  terrms of yanking the global power axis South and reversing the polarity of how things went OTL, so we should pow-wow on strategy some time. I'm doing some things underhandly that you would probably like, and I think I have some ideas regarding your interest in Europe that might plactate some of the mods while allowing you to have even more fun, that and if you want in on any of my hijinks I think they might take you a bit more seriously than they take my little antarctic hole in the wall. May you be blessed with many guanacos. Commandante Lemming (talk) 18:28, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, that must have been Scraw. I just came back and my edits were gone. CourageousLife (talk) 01:46, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Maps of Alaska
I like to use Inkscape for my flags and maps, but the kinds of maps like the ones I recently uploaded were made from scratch. I find base maps on Google and work from there. Hope this helps out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 19:00, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * It has worked for me for years. All you really have to do is find a base map and manually draw the coastline and borders (I find using the mouse can give the coastline a realistic look). You can then combine those lines together to color it. It's pretty simple, but practice makes perfect. I really should consider making a tutorial on how I make maps. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:01, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

No promises, but that has been something I have been considering for quite a while now. I wish you luck on your map making. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:05, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, that's why I left too. Thanks for that help with the oil bit, if you catch my drift. Don't want to alert the BP.

23:06, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

You playing? Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:46, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I was a bit busy. Ready now, lets go. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:25, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I have begun our plans for a unified language. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:42, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

I plan on having interest grow in proper Armahic in my universities. From there, the mercantile class will think about creating an easier link with Orissa's best ally and from there diplomats followed by intellectual folk (roughly 20-30 years time) will converge with their Ethiopian counter parts and the task to create this unified language will begin. I would give it like five years in game to be on the safe side lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:38, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

PS, 3,000th edit was on my talk page. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:39, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Nice politcal compass and beliefs - good to see someone in such an (elite) minority. Hopefully you get what I mean ;).

76.186.66.246 09:26, August 21, 2013 (UTC)deConteville

Why thank you. I feel as if I'm in a sea of sharks. I'm like one of two or three conservatives on the wikia (and another wikia full of liberals). Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:15, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Britain (PMII)
I'm not going to rage against this ludicrously implausible event. I'm just going to state that they will rebel eventually. It's not that easy to exterminate ethnicities, so the Welsh are going to be a problem for you for years to come. Can you explain, in character, what made Eithiopia pissed off enough to invade Great Brython? Yank 17:41, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Viva, I had to go away from chat and the computer got shut down, so I couldn't continue the Israeli discussion. Well, hopefully I'll see you in chat today too. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 06:51, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Islam in Korea
Yes, that is the one that inspired my forum post about Islamic Korea. That is a very rare idea, you cannot even find the similar ones in any Althist websites. Although it seems has a little plausibility, but an Islamic Korea can butterflying the world history.

And, thank you very much for your congratulations. I will work harder as a TSPTF member. :)

FirstStooge (talk) 09:24, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
Hey, just got back and saw what happened in PMII. I'm going to watch and see who's holding what, but I'm going to make some moves to secure the Welsh Royal Family and Apostolic Prime Bishop if posssible. Also I have no clue who holds what but do you have any clue who's holding Wales' South American Colonies at the end of this? Lastly -I'd like to talk about keeping your British territories in the Apostolic Church rather than forcing conversion. That would be very good for me, and I could help you settle down the natives a bit. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:31, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Britain is mine though? Otherwise Scraw does not get West Africa. He cannot have both. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:18, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

I don't care man. Take your Britain or give it to Imp, I don't care anymore.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  20:25, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Damn, quick response. I will.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  20:27, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. What's yours is yours. I'm just hyped waiting to see our new glorious gains on the 1815 map.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  20:33, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Good luck holding it - it's within the rules so you have a case in the event of a mod attack, and remember there is a mod-in-chief. I usually address rules concerns to Collie because the response is authoritative in the case of a dispute. As for the other stuff - this is a social game as much as a strategy game. It's almost as much about reading the other players as it is about the map. Oh well, I like reality TV anyway, so if I have to play online "Survivor", so be it :-P Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:45, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Oh - and I talked Scraw into keeping his portion of Britain in the Apostolic Church, so if you keep yours, we have a stable world religion with four voting members rotating leadership (Me, your Britain, Kogasa's Tojiko, and Scraw's Wales). I told Scraw I'd back a Welsh candidate when my Prime Bishop dies (this year) in order to seal the deal, and Kogasa wants the next one after that, but I think we can complete the rotation with you taking it after that and giving it back to me (granted it would be at least a four-way vote so no guarantees). That and I'm going to institute a ten year term limit on the Prime Bishop before the current one dies. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:00, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

I got the firepower. Guess who's coming to the party, Italia XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 06:47, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Chat Viva please. Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:42, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for lack of commentary on the war - why does this garbage always happen while I'm away (I go on vacation and Wales gets blown up, I take a day for Rosh Hashanah and they go after Ethiopia). The level of ASB wars in this game is so annoying that I'm thinking that if there's ever a PM3 they're going to need a rule that you can only start three wars per century or something. I usually just duck and cover during these things becasue I suck at math and the sides cheange too rapidly - but it looks like you're doing OK. I just want it to end, seeing as my game is 100% cultural and lacks a military component. Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:33, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth
Hello,

You signed on as Cuba in the Battle for Earth Strikes Back! Map game. As you may be aware, the game never started due to multiple circumstances. In order to meet everyone's needs, the game was delayed until September. I am putting the finishing touches on the page and the last thing to do is create the map for Earth. To do so, I need to know who's active and who isn't. If you are active, please notify me by Wednesday, September 11 or your nation will be opened up for a new player. Thank you for your patience. CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 19:59, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Thought Bubble
Random thought, once this war is done, do you want me to start sending you a bunch of Penguin Lillies to grow in Brythonic greenhouses? They  might be a good idea in holding the territory, or at least screwing with any rebels. Actually, you should already have a good number of them in Ireland, I assume they weren't totally eradicated by Rex'  "War on the Lily". Commandante Lemming (talk) 13:53, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

OK - you start the greenhouse experiement in Ireland and I will "kindly" send you more in exchange for the greenhouse technology that will allow me to grow them in warmer areas. Make sure the greenhouses are in Brittany due to the land borders. Still not sure if anyone will go along with the gag, but worth a shot. Commandante Lemming (talk) 17:45, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Works for me :-) Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:00, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

From what I can see, Andrew isn't willing to give you England. Germanica is happy to negotiate a ceasefire with Ethiopia that includes the surrendering of Wales into Ethiopian hands.

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OK.

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Never quite cleared this up--are you actually accepting the ceasefire with me or not?

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Ah, ok. So are you going to get Ws in the algorithm?

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No, it doesn't spread.it's like what happens with me.Aragon has yellow color on the industrialization chart, but this doesn't apply to Portugal, even if Portugal is their suzerain.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:03, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Chat please? Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:10, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Chat please. I've only got 5 mins. Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:17, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

France
Could you join my side of the Coalition, please. I still have a chance to win this. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:08, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Can I see you on chat next time you get the chance? CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 01:17, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Could perhaps give me some Military supplies. or MV Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:23, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

stuff
Hey Viva - notihing important just wanted to pick your brain about PMII. Game is starting to get a little stale on the Selk'nam front and with all the wars and wars of recrimination I feel like the game is retreating in a Eurocentric direction or at least a Eurasia-centric direction - with the rest of the world (bar Ethiopia and Orissa) pretty much being ignored. Trying to figure out a way to cause a stir that will help break the war cycle and force some attention onto other regions (and force culture and environment back onto the agenda rather than military) - don't have any ideas yet,  but thought I would put it out there as a brainstorming subject that you might be interested in. I'm not going to do anything that gets me blown off the map but I'm happy to be a little more agitative - I'm planning some big changes in the Haruwin anyway and it's not an accident that I just introduced a leader names Icarus :-)  Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:08, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Map
Well, I had found the basemap on the internet. From there, I edited it to make it into what I desired. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:42, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Would you like the base map? :D [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:46, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, this should be it. Hope it works out for you. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:04, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

No problem! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:15, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that does seem to be the case - it just gets a little boring for those of use who are in neither Europe nor North America, and the actually "Alt History" aspect is waning a bit. I think there might be room for a bit of agitation in the Southern Hemisphere if we got a four or five people in on it (Say Me, You, Imp, maybe Kogasa, Rex would probably be game). One idea I thought of would be to introduce a fast-growing new religion that messes everyone up (something that looks like Bahai'ism or Rastafarianism - but with more Zealotry and less peace - maybe even a doomsday cult. The 1800s was prime time for that sort of thing OTL - Mormonism, Baha'ism, Adventism, Christian Science). Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:17, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

That's fair especially for you as a major power (as a sidenote I think PM3 should have regional moderators and no one should be able to mod their own continent, so no god-modding or at leaset incentive for the mods to be mean to eachother - may suggest that). Anyway, I think Imp is interested in helping me on my religion projhect to destabilize South America, so I will work through him. I'm thinking big on this one because I want to give the powers something they weren't expecting. ~Commander 02:22, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure about destablising. Causing chaos on the other hand, I'm all game. Erm, give me a couple years to get things set. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:56, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Dear Imperium Africanum:

The United Sultanate of the Dimurats and Mnagystau offer you an alliance valid for 20 years as well as a trade deal.

DS|The Rainbow Machete 17:04, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Can you give me a map showing the names of your colonies, vassals and puppet states please? I plan on expanding them nicely. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:45, September 21, 2013 (UTC)



Here is mine, beucase I know it can get confusing. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:55, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much Viva. I did merge a lot of it in my first turn (and I am sorry if that is not what you wanted) but I think it would be more plausible doing so. Don't want Francinisation happening to good ol' Ethiopia. Yeah, just coined that term. Let's lead the nation to glory, lol. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:09, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Why you asking me, its your decision! Change the name on the turn you post. XD  Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:10, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva. Just a head's up - I like your post lol. Small problem is that you forgot to post about the colony of Orissan Aprika which expands by 18150km. the vassal next to it also expands by 15000km. You also have control of New Oman, the war finished in 1831. I will be making an offer to buy it off the Orissans, but I will offer you 40% gold extraction if you sale New Oman. I'll also sell former Chinese Zululand too. Thanks! :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:52, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have offered to buy New Oman. Respond in game (just as planned :P)  Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:08, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * The United Sultanate graciously accepts the lands you have offered. The Sultanate will forever be your ally.

DS|The Rainbow Machete 11:23, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva - not sure what you and Imp are up to but I was working with Imp on a new religion to blow out of his (now your) South American clonies. Would you be interested in continuing that project? We were looking at some sort of Christian-Hindu-Native-Shinto fusion that ends up looking like a more militant version of Baha'ism (messiah-figured says all religions are equally true and that he is the final prophet of all of them). I'm willing to help but I need to move while my Prime Minister Icarus is still in power (before 1840 - althought I can casue events to keep him around if needed) Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:39, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

OK - well if you want to write it feel free. Otherwise I'll write a draft and send it to you and you can make changes around the edges before posting (I think that's legal). I don't think it's a good idea for this to blow out of the Selk'nam area - firstly because people ignore met, and secondly because I'm poorly located, and lastly because I want to execute this without either of us getting totally jacked up. However, I do plan on sheltering the sect after You run them out of your area, allowing them to take over part of my Northern areas, and providing them an "incubator" safe from angry Orissans (where they retrench and then blow back into your territory and then north into other people's colonies). Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:58, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

No worries - and like I said if you want me to do some writing on this to help out I can - it was my idea after all, it's just better to start it outside my territories. We should come up with something wacky to call it. Maybe have the messiah figure be calle A'asab or or something (I'm thinking it would be hilarious to work the letter-sequence "ASB" into the title of this thing. Maybe bats should have symbolism to them :-P ) Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:12, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Viva! Support me in BFE and I'll let you have Sol, and, say, the rest of the Galaxy? Just post on my talkpage, and you'll have the details.

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 22:31, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, well, basically, I currently need to fight off the Grand Coalition. After that, well, Crim and I are considering an alliance. The three of us would basically form the most powerful alliance in BFE. The Praetorians are actually faking their war with us. You can tell this by quick checks onto Local's and Crim's talkpages, as well as mine. So a four-way allaince with 3 Tier-3 nations and a Tier-4...

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 23:21, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

PMII: The dawn of A'Asabism
Hey Viva, wrote a rough draft of crazy new religious stuff. Came up with an origin myth but nothing military in terms of progress. Let me know if you like it or want to re-work it, and whether you had different ideas. How do you think it should spread?

"<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;line-height:normal;">In the far Northern regions of Patagonshina, bordering the lawless jungle, the educated son of a tribal elder becomes disillusioned with the succession of colonists who have occupied his land and the various foreign beliefs they have enforced - Catholicism, Apostolicism, and now Hinduism. The lad, named Sapa Huacan, fasts and flagelates himself in the wilderness, begging the heavens to show him whether any of these religions are the true path, or whether he should follow traditional native religion.  'After three months in the desert, an emaciated and dazed Sapa Huacan wanders back into his home village. The locals are concerned for his health, but he refuses water and immediately begins yelling in the town square, "I have found enlightenment! Hear the word of the true divinity!"Many of the townspeople think he has gone mad, but he continues, "I beat myself for ninety days, and on the eighty-seventh day, satisfied with my penitence, the angel of the true divinity appeared to me in the form of a bat! At first I thought I had gone mad, but for three day the bat taught me the history of all religions, and I required neither food nor drink nor sleep, yet was refreshed. I tell you today that all religions serve the same god, Hindu and Atlantian and Christian, yet have become divided by an evil spirits which the angels call "the grasshoppers". This grasshoppers have devoured the good fields of our minds and made us fight one another, not realizing that we all once served the same spirit. This is why the angel came as a bat, because as bats eat grasshoppers, so we must purge these spirit grasshoppers from our minds and unite ourselves!"Sapa Huacan goes on for three hours illuminating the village, and some become convinced by his knowledge. Finally he concludes, "All the prophets have come in succession but have been divided - Krishna, Moses,  Buddha, Mohammed, and St. Maughold of Konip, but I have been called as the last prophet to united the divided strands and defeat the grasshoppers - and have been given a new name - Sapa Huacan is no more, his life-force has merged with the divinity, and this body will now be known by the mystical word by which the lost ancients warded off the grasshopper spirits! This body shall be known as A'Asab! Commandante Lemming (talk) 03:24, September 25, 2013 (UTC)'