User talk:AwesomePeruvian



Hello
Hello AwesomePeruvian. I just wanted to say hi the newest (As far as I know) person on Althistory. My name is TacoCopper, and I have been here for about four months. Anyways, here is some advise: just stay plausible on the Map Games and you too can work your way up to higher positions. If you stay long enough, you might even get to become part of the TSPTF. Other than that, have a good time here. TacoCopper

Thanks. If you want, we can engage in trade. Tell me what nations you have in what games, and if we arn't historical enemies, then I will send you requests in those games.TacoCopper

In spite of our recent conflict, the Ottoman Empire offers Peru a defensive allaince. DeanSims 18:16, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Peru accepts now that the war is over, it hopes to seek friendly relations with the nations it went to war with earlier

sweet, we would prefer to also align the Empire with your large Latin American alliance members.

fractured america is open for players, and Peru is not taken!! DeanSims 18:48, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bolivia
Thanks for, but i think that this proposal don't resolve the situation. I still would have to give land. For me the problem here is that i don't understand why a country that want to join to us insist in demands part of our territory in exchange? Something like this is unnecessary and only deteriorates the relationships between governments. Bolivia can join and recieve all our help to improve, without giving them lands. Besides, currently Chile and Peru works together improving in the roads between both countries in this territories; changes in territorial divisions probably will affect the economic progress. I think that should firmly establish that any country that want join to CLA should not put conditions like this. This is my position. Thanks again. Regards! --Katholico 22:58, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for that, I hope I'll definitely remember it when the unification comes! Callumthered 06:24, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Vive La Revolutin REVISION
Okay. Though I am not available right now. --RandomWriterGuy 23:03, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

==Fractured Europe (Map Game) == I created a map game called Fractured Europe and am in need of mods and/or players. Would you like to join?

CommanderOfTheFourthReich 00:51, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

I just joined your map game "Vive La Revolution Reloaded!" as the Swiss Confederacy. Are the Swiss considered "Neutral" in the game? Just want to know before I do anything. Blocky858 23:08, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I have a new Map Game,the "Grand French Empire Campaign" and I wanted to know if you'd like to join, and be a mod. Thank you. Blocky858 17:07, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lynxes21: hi in Vive la revolution reloaded, i am portugal and everyone is declaraing war on me because of Brazil. I didn't even know i controled Brazil. Could i just give them independence?

NE
This is my proposal for a divided Kurdistan:



Bobalugee1940 00:48, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

The Union agrees.AwesomePeruvian 01:19, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey again Peruvian. Is Switzerland Neutral, and did they have the right to take the two territories, where they independant? On the map is shows they are. Just a little arguement sprang up. Also, is Switzerland allowed to have colonies? (Most Specifically in Africa, North America, or India?) And also, this is a little map I drew up real quick to show the new regions apart of the Confederation.

As you can see, the red is me, Light Green, Britain, Blue, France, and others. I decided not to color in some nations, or break up Italy or Germany into the Germanic States or the Italian States. The map may be a little inaccurate, but it still features most of the important parts. Blocky858 03:23, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Triple Entente Vs. Central Powers
If war with a Mexico-American war starts which side would you be on. NOTE: I am not going to start one, but I wish to know just in case. Also I have come up with an idea for lan division if you were to join Mexico and we won.

The War That Came Early
Consider it done. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:13, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

On the Fractured America map My nation-- The Empire of Japan would like to initiate talks with GB on possible aid for industrialization.Andr3w777 16:17, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help. TacoCopper

Probably. I was thinking about switching to Prussia, mainly because I have been Russia for all Vive la Revolution games. I still haven't made up my mind. TacoCopper

As a matter of fact, I am, but Aztlan should not be in the way. The simple fact is that they could not fund such expeditions. And I know that you probably didn't see this part, but America claimed the red river basin, the part of British Canada jutting into America west of the great lakes. It should be a quick fix, but you don't have to do it right now. Monster Pumpkin 03:22, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Stand by. We'll get them. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 05:13, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

So is this PM 2.0 thing actually going to happen?Andr3w777 23:19, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Possible, what exactly do you have in mind? Andr3w777 01:00, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

In OTL timeline Japan does not join the world stage until 1869, however they did participate in numerous skirmishes with China and did have contact with the Dutch and British before Commadore Perry's trip from the U.S. Alliance accepted. Andr3w777 01:22, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Take it as a yes. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:32, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Triple Entente and such...
Personally, I am tired of Latin America. I prefer direct invasion. I have a plan for what I get from the war, but I don't know if you would get anything from it. We could probably discuss that once we win. Monster Pumpkin 23:38, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for offering to take care of America. Here is what I would like to happen: Thank you. Monster Pumpkin 02:12, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Secure Mexico under America's control. Don't annex it or anything, but keep it under America's direct control, like a military government or something. Play it safe. If other nations threaten war, try to negotiate the best offer possible, and if they refuse, then withdraw. This should apply mainly to European nations.
 * 2) Try to annex the Dominican Republic. Keep some forces in the DR until the war is over. During peace negotiations, please try to gain the DR. Play it safe.
 * 3) Don't get into any other conflicts if you can. If someone declares war on you, that is another story.

Your plan...
Sounds good. Monster Pumpkin 20:10, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Napoleonic Europe Reloaded
This is an invitation to Napoleonic Europe Reloaded, and would appreciate if you joined; you also have the expirience to play as the nations of Spain and Brazil. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Napoleonic_Europe_Reloaded_%28Map_Game%29#Rules

TevCp
If I recall correctly,I initially refused the alliance, until I was told that since you and Germany now have a common enemy, it would be no problem. (please check last turn) If however, this arrangement proves unsatisfactory, we will break off the ties with Germany and the Ottomans. Your help and assistance is imperative to Romania's survival, and I am very thankful for it. Callumthered 01:11, June 26, 2012 (UTC) I only opined the other alliance because someone said it wouldn't be a problem. So, who's in the entente? Callumthered 09:31, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Vive la Revolution
I decided that I will wait for another game to be China. However, I did sign up as the Emirate of Bukhara (one of the Central Asian nations), as I have noticed in map games that no one ever plays as Central Asians and they always get conquered by the Russians or Chinese or someone. LurkerLordB (Talk) 13:57, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Britian & Liberia
Would you be so kind as to help Liberia out in the Triple Alliance game? I want to take over French West Africa, and would be more than happy to alot any resources gained to Britain. I made the request to Britain and await your response. --"Truth fears no questions..." 02:06, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re:VRRRR
A hearty bonjour to you, AP.

OK. I'll tell Aztlan it's all or nothing.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:20, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

You've got less than 700 edits and your calling me a newbie? You've been here longer yes, but calling me a beginning is highly overrated if not flat out arrogant. I asked you for help because I didn't know you two were allies. Perhaps doing the smart thing and not blurting out insults would be the way to go for you in the future. --"Truth fears no questions..." 03:31, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

That was my idea exactly! Who else can we get into this? France? Britain? Maybe even Spain? I fully intend to achieve OTL's America borders and greater. Also, fill in the space next to Canada in Russia's color. The starting map was bad. Alaska should have been established and pretty darn big by the time we started. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:39, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Unless you've been told certain events have been changed for the ATL. I was told in one map game that certain historical events didn't happen. Plus, in the game, alliances changed like day and night. Plus, your nations didn't agree on many issues, leading to my assumptions that your alliance was anulled. And if I play my cards right, you might find yourself ruled from a tiny building in Monrovia. Remember, Englad was tiny once too. --"Truth fears no questions..." 04:04, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ah your arrogance. It strengthens me. Just so you know, the sun set of Britain a long time ago, you know, hence the reason its more of a mouthpiece for America. --"Truth fears no questions..." 04:25, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'm online, just working on my TL. It's called A World of Difference so if you could check out when it's up, thanks.

In other stuff, let's do this. HEIL AMERICA! HEIL SCRAWDAD! HEIL AP!

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:54, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Monster Pumpkin's map games.
Hi. I'd like to know if you are playing as MP's countries in his abcence, or who is. If you are please remember the aztecs in Columbus First contact? . Thanks David Rain (Sometimes...) 13:12, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

VLR
Hi AP. You mean this game? I not see the United Republics of South America in the list of nations :S --Katholico (talk) 03:27, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

OK don't worry :) thanks PS: You mean that i can change the name, right? --Katholico (talk) 05:11, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, that make sense. Thanks --Katholico (talk) 05:25, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, I've played 4 map games, and as far as I'm concerned, have a good record. Can I play as Russia or Prussia? (Though I'm cool with playing as Austria and Switzerland.) Never mind, I'm cool with playing as Greece, if permitted. Stewdio333 (talk) 06:13, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, I've played 4 map games, and as far as I'm concerned, have a good record. Can I play as Russia or Prussia? (Though I'm cool with playing as Austria and Switzerland.) Never mind, I'm cool with playing as Greece, if permitted. Stewdio333 (talk) 06:13, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just copy-paste the code from my page. :)

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:16, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Brazils goverment in hiding has been captured and killed, can Brazil be free now? -Dean DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 21:00, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just click "edit" at thetop of my page.

Go to source and copy the codex.

Then edit your page and paste.

Change it accordingly.

Just write AP instead of Scraw and replace my hobbies with your hobbies, etc.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:11, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Tengo una idea!

Look at my box, and then tell me what you want.

EX: If Line 23 in my box says No, tell me that you want Yes instead.

Then I'll write up the code for it.

What do you think?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:42, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

OK then, we'll do it later.

Lol, but anyways, I go to sleep around 3 AM here and get up around 12 Noon.

It's short sleep hours for a sleepy person. I'm too lazy to go to sleep, but I don't want to get up either, lol.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:52, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Flag
It's no problem. And yeah, I've had that problem recently too; what I do to upload now is I save the file (on Paint, Inkscape, etc.), and edit the page where I want it to go. Then, I just save the page (the link should be in red with no picture) and simply click that link to upload it there. If you need any help, just let me know. ChrisL123 (talk) 17:49, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Answer
Sorry about that, AP. Been running behind on messages the last few days and I forgot about your post.

You're not the first one to have troubles. But, wikia is doing upgrades right now. I'd bet that that is the cause.

About the only thing I have for you is to tell you to update your computer, internet browser, and "java" software.

Lordganon (talk) 05:47, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

What
Have some respect to my choice. I do not play in games where everyone is implausible or inactive. I don't have to make any algorithms as I have made enough of these in my map games. And as the time goes you will(I hope) understand why it's stupid to play in such map games. See you.  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 07:19, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

New Beginning
hey... are you going to play the game or not, If you dont then i'll Free erase you from it and leave your Space free so that Someone can take southern France Kindgom again.

VLR
hey is it alright if i take japan the player who was using him hasnt returned if he doesnt return in 2 turns ill take up his place ok, im more into japanese, and thai culture.Nkbeeching

New Vive la Revolution
i think it would be best to start a new one there are alot of inactive players and its just ot fun that way want to start a new one and we can restart it and get other players and make a more epic and longer lastying one, we are without mexico and the states who are major componwents of the game same with china and russia. ill help you make the new one. Nkbeeching

I never said Liberia could conquer Britain or Russia, but was making a point as to how things could change over time. Britain is pretty much powerless today as a military force. And no rule ever said I couldn't use the talk page, just your own rule of mouth. And people bougth rubber from Liberia because of the humn rights issue in th Belgian Congo. The nations wishing to prove themselves civil tried to buy their rubber from other sources, the two others being Brazil and Liberia. Anyway, no rule saying I ca't use your page. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:04, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

If you obsessed with getting the last word fine. And I'm aware of what wank mean. And since you can't read my mind, I can tell you that I never planned on calling you a British wank, cause I'm not that childish. I let the matter go a while ago, and thought I'd get the person playing Ethiopia the correct population size. You made the entire thing an issue. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

And I can tell you Peruvian by both the name and the avatar. I can see and read too you know. And I must thank you for the Africa wank thing. While it is true, and I never denied it, I have an idea for an ATL. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:21, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Afican Empire Implausiblity
I'll do my best. RandomWriterGuy (talk) 20:24, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yo, AP, we gotta think about getting him off of the SoCR. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:29, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

I mean, I'll be here in assisstence, not like fully taken control over the situation. RandomWriterGuy (talk) 04:44, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

German Re-unification
We're pissing off the Russians, With the Russian leadership gone for awhile it gives us time to unite. It will be a capitalist nation, but will not be allied with the GUD or the Soviets. It will become a nuetral ground where all sides can talk things out. I briefly looked up the Brussels Treaty, and under the amended Lisbon Treaty, Germany would still be unable to have a military, but I have decided to pursue the Japanese style, which would provide for a full miltary that is only allowed for defensive purposes, under the treaty, as long as it is monitored by the GUD we should be in compliance. It will be a full merging with the new capital at Berlin. The Wall will be removed, the Stasi, disbanded.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:57, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

The treaty is unclear, as it gives no direct mention on how the German forces will be set up, but providing it is for defensive purposes ONLY and with the GUD and the Nuetral nations looking on, it should be permissableAndr3w777 (talk) 04:17, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hey why'd ya take off my VRR map? I added my (Ottoman) expansion to the map. Also Lurk said that Bukhara wraps around the Aral, so this map is more correct.



Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:48, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Actually the reason I don't post is because I reflect whatever I would write onto the map. I thought I said this once. Anyways, Georgia is mine, the Crimea is mine, and tell RWG he has no need for the Black Sea. It's not like there's valuable resources or anything there. Anyways, I'm asking France, my ally since 1563, to defend you, and if he does, I expect you to as well, as their ally and whatnot.

Also, the reason I did stuff like ally with other nations, accept trade deals, let Greeece go, etc etc, industrialize with French help (as I do every game, lol), and everything else I've done is to prevent Ottoman collapse, failure, etc. The place isn't as bad as OTL. It's pretty much as good as Prussia after the Napoleonic Wars. Dhimmi has been lowered (sort of) and anyone who doesn't want to pay, well, Jews go to the Crimea, and if Russia attacks, that's like saying "Hi, I'm Russia, I'm really big and strong, and I hate Jews." and the Christians go to Georgia and anyone else (pagans, etc) goes to Persia. Simple.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

No kidding, eh? I was thinking the same thing in my mind, how the implausible/ridiculous/doens't like listening to other people space is always full. Be prepared though, Dean's ban expires soon, so beware Aztlan, the f-word, and all that other stuff. Also it looks like MP's not gonna be back for a while, so we should try reviving TEvsCP. I know that job was for Chris and myself, but we don't do it as well as MP, lol. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:18, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

What is up with the Vivaporious guy or however you spell his name. It seems like on every map game I go you and him get into it. I agree with you on the Ethiopia thing. I know it isn't my business but he is really freaking annoying and taking up alot of space with his arguements, can you and the other mods talk to him. Not neccesarily ban him, but just call him down. Its like playing with Dean. AKA a NIGHTMAREAndr3w777 (talk) 03:21, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Dang man, stop telling me everything I'm gonna tell you, lol! It's like having a twin! I mean, I'm Brandenburg (bow to Bradenburg you measly serf!) (just kidding), the most powerful nation on Earth (or at least in the Holy Roman Mess), and he gonna say "But the Africans had been trading with XYZ due top rubber and oil that they drill in two months and Brandenburg is just a puny German state." It aggravates me and will ruin my experience in Insane World II. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:56, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

If you and Scraw revive TEvsCP, I was wondering if I could play?Andr3w777 (talk) 04:28, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Your still not getting it. I never said Liberia could or would take over England or Russia, and the fact that you keep using that as a gossiping topic is fraking annoying, like your "do not respond" threats. I said, and in a very well thought out and planned manner, Liberia could in the far off, post-nuclear world, possibly do something along the lines of planting a flag on English soil if it had competent leaders, a better military, and lots of money. That's why I said things could change. Kuwait was a pile of dirt before the 1960s, now its faboulously wealthy. Who's knows, maybe that rumor about oil near Liberia may be true, and in 40 or 50 years Liberia has some money. Heck, Mali had more gold than England had sheep (in a manner of speaking), but it lacked modern technology. Don't know what that last part had to do with anything, but I'll be darned (yes darned) if you compare me with some older guy, and then mock my preferance of African nations. I'm waiting for Scraw to launch his new map game so I can play the Franks, but than aint anytime soon. And actally point out an implausibilty instead of accus me of them. I can't fix what I don't know. I can't read your mind, nor do I have any wish too. --"Truth fears no questions..." 06:11, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

First off, in New Beginning, the plot is at the beginning of th article, and it says that society spent the last 70 years getting back together. You don't need technology to build an empire, it only makes it easier to hold it. I'm Ethiopia, and it says that on the page, AT THE NATION SECTION. And your moronic "two year plan" is something YOU came up with, and only you and three other guys think that. I know because I see you talk page, if EVERYONE thought that, I'm pretty sure I'd know. In NB, NO ONE has any money. Not me, not Novo Columbia, not Caucasia. Your the truely annoying person. You keep coming to my talk page well aware that I'll respond. If you don't what me to respond, don't say anything on my talk page, and I won't. Stop obsessing over getting the last word or trying to exert authority when you have none. --"Truth fears no questions..." 16:10, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

My final response. New Beginning is still alive, and not dead like TAvsCP game. I know how to make a case for myself, and generally whether or not you care doesn't concern me. I won't respond, but I swear I don't want you to either. Learn humility AP. --"Truth fears no questions..." 16:33, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry as well. I tend to become belligerent when faced with opposition. Its something I'm working on. I understand your statements, and I really don't want to start anythin like this again. Sorry for the trouble, an I hope that this is the last argument we have. Once again, sorry for the trouble. --"Truth fears no questions..." 19:26, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, and I'll join VLRR. And for the sake of getting past the old issues, I won't be playing any African nations out of safety. :P --"Truth fears no questions..." 19:41, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, actually, looking at the map, I think I'll wait for VLR IV first. XD --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 19:43, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Bueno si necesito tu ayuda te pregunto, y lo siento por ser tan molesto por lo de bolivia, le crei a wikipedia que no es tan Correcto historicamente en muchas situaciones. y gracias por la oferta

Oh Okay I was confused, I saw Brasil and thought it was free, my bad Portugal you say? Yes I will do that disregard that post.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:11, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Novus Mundi
AP would you do to the Honor of Being the first mod to signup? 186.144.95.6 23:33, July 22, 2012 (UTC) Sine dei gloriem

Why'd you quit Novus Mundi? Can you at least agree to the alliance offer with the Ottomans? It's 63 years early, but it can be done. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:25, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
I am taking requests for nations colours. If you are interested in picking your own colour then message me. Scandinator (talk) 23:38, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Athens in 1450 was a Byzanite vassal. Aragon sold it to Florence in the late 14th century. I'm not going to agree to an alliance since you are occupying Naples and Venice hopes to unite Italy and also because you are a rival naval power. Also a dynastical union is out of the question, Venice is a merchant republic and therefore doesn't have a king or queen. Instead we have an elected merchant who rules the nation so any dynastical union will end in 5 years. Also red is taken is pink ok? Scandinator (talk) 03:17, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

vive la revelution
hey, vive has moved on, and my former nation was annexed, so i was wondering if i could be the phillipenes

okay, how about ireland then, could they revolt and try to form their own country at this time, with the industrial revelution and all

Hey, I just wanted to tell you, the imperialist Holy Roman Empire will conquer Aragon if, and only if, all goes well. Just a minor heads up. Also, can you check out my TL A World of Difference and tell me if you have any ideas for it? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 21:52, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Pah. The consolidation will occur by 1470. And we'll have Venice on our side. Once Italian conquest begins, especially after the Papal States fall, we'll get Naples, which you own. If we win, down you go! Bow down to the Holy Roman Mess!

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:16, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

German States Thingy
What map game is this for? And yes, I will agree to the operation. RandomWriterGuy (talk) 04:23, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

I have a geniousotic idea!

Merge with Venice in dynastic union and the whole Empire will help you conquer all of Spain under your rule! Then we'll have France locked in and we'll conquer it! Then we can go after the British Isles! What say you?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:36, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Scandinator. Basically willing to do anything so long as Italy (or most of it) is his. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 05:00, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

OK. We can even go after Morroco eventually if we're powerful enough. But let's not go to far. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:59, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting fact: in OTL in 1509 Aragon and Castille entered dynastic union. You could simply avoid that by joining with Venice instead. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:17, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

And another geniousotic plan doth Scrawland haveth.

You can ally with Brandenburg and/or Austria, you help us strengthern our united Holy Empire, we help you be a conquistador in the rest of Spain. Then eventually you can enter dynastic union with Brandenburg and/or Austria, and you can enter the Empire with your Spain. Then the rest of the Empire can help you take France if you would be interested in doing so. But this would all happen by the 1520s or something.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 05:13, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean by "home nation"?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 11:05, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hola
Como español que soy, acepto jiji xD. Me parece bien la idea para unificar la península y demás. Sobre Francia tampoco me importaría, pero creo que tendríamos que mirar mas hacia América y/o Portugal. Saludos camarada hispano. Jaeden Cuenta Cuentos (talk) 11:21, July 28, 2012 (UTC).

Existe um jeito de ser parte desse reino unido sem estar em união dinástica/pessoal com os outros estados desta?

P.S. = this reply is in Portuguese because, well, you say that you are fluent in Portuguese.i am Brazilian.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:05, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mas a Irlanda nunca tinha sido um país unificado antes dos normandos/ingleses invadirem.quando o reino da irlanda foi fundado em 1542, para o rei da Inglaterra, era basicamente uma mudança de título, de "Senhor da Irlanda", para 'Rei da Irlanda".o caso aqui é que temos um país que é unificado, e tem dinastia própria.como seriam os procedimentos?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:26, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Bem, o formato mais próximo de algo lembrando um reino unido que seria mais aceitável para os meus objetivos no jogo seria o formato do Império Alemão, que era algo como uma monarquia federalista.algumas das regiãoes constituentes dele tinham monarcas, de dinastia diferente da do Rei da Prússia, que também era o imperador da Alemanha.Aliás, qual é o objetivo desse reino unido?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:51, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Então, os interesses já são conflitantes o bastante para que Portugal não entre. o máximo que pode ser feito em uma situação assim é uma aliança.ou um pacto de não-agressão mútua.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:23, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Fractured America Mark II
I have asked Scraw about possibly reviving Fractured America as Fractured America Mark II. If we go through with this I would like you to join, and help along the way, this would be my first reboot.These are not the droids you are looking for. 22:32, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I can't post in Novus Mundi.

Under the complaints section, please add this:

"Sine, you really do not understand the meaning of surrender. Why don't you look it up? You surrendered, plain and simple. What I do with your nation is my choice. Not yours. After surrender you have no say in what happens. So forget about it. Go and pick another nation and see if you can beat me with that. And don't take Persia, I'm going to conquer that next. ~ Scraw"

And in Spanish, as Google translate is acting a bit wonky.

Thanks.

Also, as a heads up, I won't have internet connection for a while because I'm moving. In VRR, just post for me every turn saying this:

"The Ottoman Empire continues to build up its military, economy, and infrastructure."

Also in 1859 state that the Sultan dies and his son looks for a wife and ask Bukhara first. I want to see a dynastic union. Tell Lurk that when the time comes, please. After that let him post for the three nations. If that fails just add next turn that the Sultan marries a Princess frmo inside the borders.

Then for Persia until 1853:

"Persia begins/continues the job of keeping the Afghans controlled."

Also in 1854 add that the new Sultan gives Afghanistan its own autonomous states within Persia.

I think you'll be able to handle diplomacy as I do and get into wars accordingly.

Every now and then I'll pop in if I can find a coffee shop, lol.

Bonsoir!

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:04, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Triple Entente
Why not make a turn in this game.

My corrections
Sorry about that.

I'll try to remember to leave it alone.

EoGuy (talk) 01:02, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

What on earth is wrong with you? Chewing out someone for making spelling corrections is rude, at best.''

If someone wants to fix the spelling and grammar on an article, they are always allowed to do so.

Lordganon (talk) 23:48, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

New Beginning
i agree with you, but im going to wait to see how far he i'll go before completely making him fall, like alexander empire then something happens and then boom the empires fall apart into a small series of Kingdoms maybe in 2001 summer or 2002 spring, and the game is asb because i want it to make it last as much as it can so i supposed that everything happened like a thousand years before things like jesus borned in 748 b.c in OTL

A Great world
he, can i post( again) my map game link in your's, because well, like you said yours is one of the most succesfull ones so, would you allow me too?

ok, i understand, so may i ask which are the other succesfull games in here so i can see if i can post them there

VLR

 * I'm in. Enclavehunter (talk) 07:42, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I must admit, you did a very good job of convincing him to join a war that serves little to no purpose. Other then territorial ambitions, do you have any reason for starting this war? [[Image:IMPERIAL NY-SPQR 1.png|25px]][[Image:Regen Flag.png|30px|border]] Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:52, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * And to think I left you in charge of my nation. I'll not repeat that mistake, Mr. Frankish Peruvian. [[Image:IMPERIAL NY-SPQR 1.png|25px]][[Image:Regen Flag.png|30px|border]] Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:58, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * First of all, stop accusing, capiche? I don't expand for my benefit, as a matter of fact, I left a thin strip of alnd for him to go around. You colonized that. I did not purposefully expand to block him. Why would I do that? You think I would make an enemy out of the nation of France, the two of us who have been through thick and thin with each other since Suleiman III? Sure.  Do not accuse of doing stuff . I have problems with this in real life and I will not tolerate it on the internet. And why don't you like it? You think I'm not going to let my chief ally and his chief ally share my waterways? You actually want me to senselessly give up land? Get out of town bro, no one does that. And I have to ask, why would he want Algeria? No one knows about the oil yet. He'd mostly be faced with rebellion from the blacks and Muslims, so that's a big no go. And I hardly have any of Algeria. Why can't he just take the land south of me where the oil is? Hmm? Your argument is greatly out of place and heavily implausible. This is nothing but warmongering. [[Image:IMPERIAL NY-SPQR 1.png|25px]][[Image:Regen Flag.png|30px|border]] Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Also, I apologize if you tae offense or feel jurt because of my comments and statements. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 07:03, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, let's forget this whole ordeal. Yes, I saw that the "Proud Leader of the Althistory Revolution" is taking over Austria Hungary. I'm watching him like a hawk. I wonder what Revolution he's talking about. The only type of that we have was Jazon's Rebellion from back in the day. Dean always gives me a good laugh, lol.

OK, have fun in Mexico.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 07:11, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

thanks for cambodia and i'll prepare my self to starting colonies in africa maybe in what 15 - 30 years/ turns. also the A Great World map game started, you should start before every one else over expands Sine dei gloriem (talk) 16:13, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

A Great world II
the game has started Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:14, August 11, 2012 (UTC)]

Ap ARE you going to play the the game or not, i know it is asb but come on, three turns and you haven't post anything Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

CD, Cm
The Entente needs you! Come back!

The Royal Guns (talk) 04:59, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lobositz Lamentable Loss
Sorry for the delay, but the game has now begun! RandomWriterGuy (talk) 05:32, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

CDCM
Entente (Carpe Diem, Carpe Mundum)

Our strategy page.

The Royal Guns (talk) 15:02, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with everything, but why would I lose Persia? It was Sunni Muslim about until the late 1800s. Also I plan on giving the Balkan countries autonomy within the Empire, sort of like a British Commonwealth member or somethnig. This will happen around the 1890s or so. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:09, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

World wars: not really. Commies: not really. They might take some small country, like Croatia, and the unstable South American nations. Fascists: there'll be some, somewhere. I suggest an Austria or Russian Hitler. Socialist: yes, but they wouldn't take hold. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:23, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

XD 2:30 AM here. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:31, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, what do you think about a Romanian Napoleon to start World War I? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:12, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

VRR Nation Response
Okay, I'm alright with the United Realms of Great Britain, Germany and Spain ("realms" because they're not all kingdoms) UR for short.

I would like it to work like Austria-Hungary otl: Same monarch but different Legislatures for each realm. (Obviously defence and foreign affairs would have to be combined, and there would have to be a page where the three of us could discuss such things.)

We could maintain our own militaries, but have a unified High Command, which would obviously take charge during wartime.

With regard to the colonies...How are they going to work? Could they be administered as part of an individual Realm (eg: German Greenland administered as part of Germany), but everyone from all the realms has equal rights of movement and trade to all the colonies, regardless of which Realm it is a part?

Callumthered (talk) 05:24, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

hey ap i have a question for you, what do you think about a game set around in the aftermath of the roman empire or one set around the cruzades or the Latinoamerican independences which would you think to be more succesfull, i want to make one but the other ideas are completely asb's Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:29, August 17, 2012 (UTC) please help me, and play in a great world, you said you wanted and it would be nice to have someone to avoid to make it asb

Here is my own, poor, attempt at a potential flag, based on the Austro-Hungarian design.

(I would like to remain a Grand Duchy...If that's alright. It's just a personal preference. And ayway, now that the Grand Duke is also Prince-Primate of the German Confederation, it will be officially part of the union.)

Callumthered (talk) 05:32, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm interrupting or coming into a conversation i'm not supposed to be or care at all, but i think you should do something more like this



as you might see thear are the colors of the German Flag, the British flag and the pixelated Spanish emblem and you should add your nations name in a special nation category named the United Realms or how you choose to namer your union and in there keep your flags respectively but in this one show a flag similar like this or the one you choose Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:07, August 18, 2012 (UTC
 * UR
 * UK
 * GDoM
 * Spain

I think Sine has a point about the flags, and how the nations should appear on the list; very good work!

Here is my own flag in the style of Sine's:

It has the Union cross, German Tricoluor, as well as the Spanish red-and-gold. (I prefer this one because I find coats of arms on flags ugly, and hard for schoolchildren to draw!)

Callumthered (talk) 02:55, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

you could aswell add maybe stars to depict the idea of three powerfull states under the union and i agree with you on school children Thing( we hate you coat of arms, with love SDG) also nice flag Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:01, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like you're trying to merge the flags of Spain, Britain, and Germany here. What about my proposal:



Spain is represented with the cross of Burgundy — Hellerick 06:06, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Imperialism II
Game has begun. --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 20:07, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Before either of us starts a rage fight, let's talk.

A: Russia givnig all ethnicities equal rights? My ass. Russia is a frakking autocracy. Meaning an absolute monarchy.

B: My dominions will rebel yet yours won't?

C: Weak Mexican states will not join the CSA or Aztlan? That makes them prime targets for the USA. Reminder: You told me to invade Mexico when I was filling for MP.

So before you do anything, let's discuss the issues at hand like rational people.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:00, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

A: Well that would be far more implausible. Autocracies don't really do that unless faced with a rebellion or something.

B: I've had the Balkans since the 1400s. Much longer than you had Canada or Australia. Certainly they would be Islamified by now. And I need a good name, the like the Union of XYZ Republics. Muslim and Middle East don't work. I'm stuck, so MU was the best I got. I'm thinking now of Union of Sovereign ? Republics, with a NU style nation, although no communism. I might also try and get Bukhara in on it.

C: OK. But I think the three (Sonora, Chihuahua, Rio Grande) would join the CSA or Aztlan instead of being left vulnerable like that.

Also, I am considering joing up with China, Bukhara, and Japan in a quest to launch a preemptive assault on Russia. Would you get involved?

And I have a new D.

D: Sweden and Russia are like total "Screw you" terms, and they hate each other, like the I-kill-you ind of hate each other, so can we tell them that their alliance is null and void and never happened?

And E: How did you and France become such great pals oh-so-long ago?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:33, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

OK, I concede to A to D. But E? Ridiculous. Come on, we're talking Napoleon I Bonparte of France here! England was his greatest enemy of all time! No way he would ever do that. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:52, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Regardless, you can't change Napoleon. He was already in the Revolution at games start. Anywho, I'm not interested in a rollback, you can keep going as it is. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:05, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Go For It!
I support the reunification of Scandanavia. It's like the Greater Europe map game, only it's peaceful, rather than Sweden invading Norway under fascist rule. Okay, I'll announce plans for reunification. Stewdio333 (talk) 07:40, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Coding
Happens when someone majorly screws up a post. Not only is is fully reversible, but you only need to "undo" the offending edit to fix it.

I've fixed them - note, however, that the VLRR one was your post. Watch things a touch more carefully ;)

Lordganon (talk) 07:58, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Got me, never done it myself.

Just check your posts after you make them. If the page is screwed up, you'll notice.

As for anyone else, just look for posts that are far too large in bytes than the posts itself looks.

Lordganon (talk) 09:18, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

UR Capital
So, I've been thinking of where the ceremonial capital of the UR should be, and I came up with a candidate: Heligoland. It's in the North Sea, kind of halfway (more like one third) of the way between the two countries. And I purchased it from Heligoland a turn or two ago.

It may be small, but it only needs to house a few things: the Combined Defence Ministry, Combined Cabinet and a ceremonial residence for the King/Grand Duke. It is also a very useful naval station, which could protect the ministries from attack. Callumthered (talk) 04:16, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Okay sure, wait wait wait wait ' WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????!!!!! ' Leaving?!!! You??!!!! No way! But if that what you want, I can't stop you. But I can't believe that this is actually happening! You want to spread the word or not?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:09, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Me podrías dar tu MSN ó Correo para mantener contacto sobre el Principia Moderni II?. Gracias :). Jaeden Cuenta Cuentos (talk) 14:22, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Sweden PMII
Hey AP, Um... I dunno how to tell you this but ManofSteele is returning in a week from exams and he asked me to try and keep Sweden open. I would be a great favour to me if you did not pick it. Note: France is open. Scandinator (talk) 00:36, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

' YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ' Perfect! PM2 is 1500, same year I lose control of Aragon! I knew I could kepe it for you! Aragon and Brandenburg are in dynastic union, one kings: Freddie IV. All the Christians of Europe are fighting this Muslim megastate called the Caliphate. I conquered North Africa using Aragon. Aragon+Brandenburg also explored half of North America (called Antillia)'s East Coast, as well as funding a voyage to OTL South America (called Atlantis, my suggestion woohoo!) next year. We've also got a colony in Africa, and we're married to half the royal houses in Europe.

VRR, sure. I'll play both games.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 03:38, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've arranged marriage Castile in the near future. I'm trying to conquer Denmark. Sweden and Norway are one, Brandenburg's ally. RUSSIA is a VERY IMPORTANT ALLY of the HRE, especially BRANDENBURG, who made the RUS and the HRE be friends. I want OTL NA up to the Mississippi, and north of that. That must be mine! I already have New York secured. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 04:51, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what will happen because PM has only ever seen two nation changes. One was someone on wikibreak whose nation got conquered, the other was on wikibreak and their nation was fragmented. You have neither issue so I believe you should return as Aragon, if the other mods allow a nation change then you may remain as Sweden (be warned Yank still seems to carry a grudge against Sweden and has already tried to break it up twice). Scandinator (talk) 05:29, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

He did not delete his own name, Yank did shortly before dissolving the Kalmar Union and breaking off Finland from Sweden. And who should he have gotten to fill in? Me? I barely have enough time as it is. All three of us (me, MoS and AM) are on exam periods. Scandinator (talk) 05:39, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

While you unify Scandanavia, I feel fair to warn you that Russia has plans for the Saami, especailly in the Kola Peninsula, and perhaps the Finns. Still, I see no reason that we can't aid each iother in the pursuit of these goals.

The Royal Guns (talk) 16:42, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

AVAre
Fancy a trade deal with the Republic of Québec? Québec offers trade deal to France. Wood, wood pulp, paper, iron ore, moose steaks, elk steaks and reindeer steaks are on offer. We offer an alliance with France.90.244.91.81 21:23, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you&apos;re Sweden? Now I have to go to Lurk and tell him that you&apos;re not going to be Aragon and see if I can grasp rule over both countries or else Aragon goes free to a new player. Anyways, can I at least get the Danish outlet in Germany? And would you consider conquering Finland together? It&apos;s ambitious, but we can pull it off in say 1515. Hasta la vista, baby. (I&apos;ll be back.) 04:39, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

You got a deal on everything. Thou hath receiveth one mighty port city in the great north of the greateth country that be ARAGON, LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, MASTER OF WIZARDS! Hasta la vista, baby. (I&apos;ll be back.) 19:18, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

I&apos;D TELL YOU A CHEMISTRY JOKE, BUT ALL THE GOOD ONES AR(A)GON.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I&apos;ll be back.)

Finland?... planning to do it before 1510. We could split it. Though really, you should talk to Lx about that. Still, we call the Saami.

The Royal Guns (talk) 21:53, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bro, A) talk to Lx, B) we&apos;re closerThe Royal Guns (talk) 15:13, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Worth a shot. The Royal Guns (talk) 19:22, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Norway
If you didn't post that your navy defeated the pirates, you can't claim that they did. If you don't post something, it didn't happen. I posted in 1504 that there were pirates, and you didn't state that they were defeated. Sorry, you can't retcon events you don't like. LurkerLordB (Talk) 11:18, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. I thought there were real pirates. Until I can verify anything, consider our alliance unbroken. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 23:03, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Norway was an NPC for quite some time, you were just barely taking control as I began these motions. The only reason you took control was your incredibly convenient series of marriages and deaths in the span of 4 years. Furthermore, your nation just suffered a massive civil war, there is obviously going to be violence. Also, it's in the rules to cause movements among the common people of a nation without that player's permission, and I would say encouraging piracy because my nation has a lot of new wealthy trade and yours is very war torn and poor is certainly plausible and not that major of a movement. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:17, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I checked up, and your prince didn't become the king of Norway until after I had posted my turn in 1504. So at the time I posted about the pirates and Norweigan government, it was an NPC, you hadn't taken control yet. So you had no way to conduct diplomacy with the Norweigans or stop the pirates at that time, and there was no reason for me to especially inform you of what was going on. Sorry, but you picked up Norway just a few hours after I had set events in motion that I had been planning for 20+ years in this game. Scotland has not other designs for any Norweigan territory. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:28, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

You fought a 13 year long war, which would have been longer had I not stopped the event to help Norway when my eventual attack came. There's no way that Norway can recover from a war that long and brutal so fast. It was posted in moderator events that the war drained so much money from Norway that they couldn't fund the lone explorer Cjest Reginsson, and that was after only 6 years of the fighting. After 7 more years, their financial situation is going to be even worse. I'm sorry, but to take control of another nation your king needs to be its king, so they still were officially NPC. It is precedent that for events that affect other nations in turns, the actions of whoever posts first occured first. Scotland has a very clear reason to want Faroe, to stop the piracy and to further their control over trade in the Norweigan Sea (which they have worked on doing since before you took control of Sweden). I am not biased at all, every action I have done has been plausible, and has been within the rules. Retconning is bad continuity, and should be done in only the most severe of situations. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Just present diplomacy to Bavaria that requests to enter the HRE. Be aware that Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland shall be admitted seperately and that you will only control Sweden. And you have just gone and ruined every single plan I had for expansion of Brandenburg. :( Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 18:06, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Because. Now their is no non-player land left in Europe. France is too far for anything good, and there you have it.

And also, because. The other because is because (because is because XD) Scandinavia is too large a state to join wholly. You can still play as Scandinavia, but the Empire and the Emperor will only recognize Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 22:50, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

I concur. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 23:41, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

We never finalized the algorithm, several complaints against it were not followed up on and discussion on it died, so we just kept to using Scandinator's list. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:12, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I added you to the list for 1509. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:57, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Morocco, definately not. Smaller, less developed, non-Muslim countries might be able to be vassalized without an algorithm after 10 years or so, but you would need to have built up a fairly big colony around them. LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:15, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Venetian alliance
I will agree to an alliance with Scandinavia.Scandinator (talk) 09:27, November 4, 2012 (UTC)



Russian Fed stuff
actualy, I planned to have the saami part of Russia long before you came and played as Sweden. although I think it is a bit annoying that you managed to vassalize them in one turn, I was waiting for me to recuperate from war and attack them in a sure and decisive manner. honestly, if it werent for the great holy war, they would already be speaking russian, although i respect the first come first served premise of this game but am just a bit annoyed that my plans were ruined in the span of three days. And about the Kola: I could just cross the entrance to the white sea and settle the Kola, I have a white sea fleet of mainly primitive icebreaker galleys. This is possible. -Lx (leave me a message) 16:30, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Alliance
I'll love to be in alliance with you. Let's do it. --Galaguerra1 (talk) 21:18, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that in your colonization date page, you got two dates for your nation.Scandinavia only could begin to colonize in 1509, and Denmark onyl could begin in 1504.you colony on the James river was founded before 1509, thus it is only valid if it is a danish colony.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 16:07, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe in OTL, but the treaty of Tordesilhas was never signed in ATL, as Castille was inactive as of its date, and Portugal never bothered to ask for a division.

Well, about the Canaries, i tried to warn LLB(or it was Scan?) that Castille had a vassal in the Canaries but he didn't listen.i, for myself, only colonized the islands that weren't taken by that vassal in 1450.

Depends.what this trade pact is about? about the alliance, yes. --Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:01, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

I already did it, mostly chainging the place of the colony to OTL Connecticut.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:50, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Bem, no caso, o problema principal com isso é que se houver essa venda, eu não posso fundar outra colônia até 1548, tempo em que todas as terras disponíveis já estarão ocupadas.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:28, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

re: AvAre
Thanks, I really appreciate it. I'm really busy in real life, so I can't keep up :( PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 18:41, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

VRR
Listern bro, I wanna play VRR, but you have to cut the goddamn implausibility. One of the reasons it originally collapsed was because the CSA (which should be frakking dead by now), which has no industry or economy or enough men to stand up to a mighty Union + a jillion acres of land and men from Mexico, as well as arms, kept on winning back states. If they had the capability to take it back, the bare truth is that they wouldn't have lost it in the first place. The more important bare truth is that the CSA sucks. Plain and simple. They have NOTHING, absolutely  NOTHING  that can actually help them survive against the Union.

And B: the whole horse thing? It was hardly serious OTL. It definitely won't get worse ATL. I read this article about Disease, Births, and Deaths, and the chances of any of those happening ATL at exactly the same time and same rate/pace as OTL are smaller than they were to happen in OTL. Simply put, most of it is impossible.

And C: Why the goddamfeck is there an economic crash in the US?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 04:17, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

That's it. I'm tired of your colonies. How much do you want? I'll let you colonize somewhere else. There's only room for two colonial masters in Northeastern America, and that's me and Portugal, cause we were there first. Gimme your New York and New Jersey colonies, cause I explicitly told everyone a long long time ago that those were mine, and that any trespassers lives would become living hell on the wiki. Not my fault you weren't here. So how much do you want for New York and New Jersey? Cause Collie and I already have plans and colonies, and we'll gang up on you if need be. And your colonies aren't even on the map. So how much do you want? (And, I vassalized the Iroquois nation next turn. So there.)

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:43, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

There's what me and Collie originally agreed on. I can accomodate that much for you. The area around the great lakes, plus the OTL great New York area is mine and I will stop at nothing to enforce that.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:48, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

What? your colonies aren't nowhere near reaching Massachussets right now.the numbers of colonial expansion aren't for each colony, but to be split between the colonies.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:57, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

>.> I was there in 1501.  15-O-frakking1 . So how much do you want? Think like a 16th centruy European noble. You want money. You'd do almost anything with a little bribe.

So, at least the New York colony before I launched the Seven Years' War fifty years in future.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:58, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Forget everything I said! I am a happy person now! Your colony does not exist! Because, you have reached the limit with your colony in Virginia, Pennsylvania-Delaware, and Nova Scotia! Ha! Northeastern Antillia is for Collie and myself!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:00, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

You can't have an extension on one colony in a completely different place as an excuse. It's too small to be an exclave anyways. Anywho, my Iroquios minions will just kill your colony.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:06, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, as that map shows, i got a objective of reaching the Great lakes, so i would propose a border on Southwestern Maine.(i get that southwestern part, and you get the rest.)--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:09, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I've been talking with them for years. Who said it was a year?

Also, there are no such things as Pennsylvania and New York ATL, so the border is nonexistant too. Stop trying to use OTL things ATL.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:10, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

You know what, screw all this. Can I just buy the colony? I'll sell you my colony in Brazil.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:11, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

' THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!! ' That's what I've trying to say. You know what, just to prevent things like this, I'm inviting you and all of Europe to colonization conference in Berlin!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:20, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Right. Actually it's the granddaughter, but she's in line for the throne, lol.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:28, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I would accept, but i hate those straight-line borders.how about the borders being OTL York County, Maine?so you still have space for Portland.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Our only choice be war. The meeting begins now.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:40, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:46, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

How about this: our border will be at OTL Maine's border, until York County's borders, from where western territories are Portuguese and eastern are Swedish.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:59, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you have all of Maine, except for York County.But i onl will be able to follow through with the Canada discussion tomorrow.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:07, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Vive Reloaded
i might want to rejoin Vive if i do ill probably be retaking my post as new granada, is that ok?

also mind taking a look at my timeline and giving me your point of view its A Darker Place

The Caliphate
Are you willing to get your Scandinavian hands dirty? If so, then I have a proposal. Imp and I looking for nations willing to combat the growing menace of the Caliphate. That nation is downing entire kingdoms like nobody's business, and it just turned its eyes to me. Additionally, the Caliphate is threatening Europe from what I've seen. Since you lead one of the largest nations in Europe, I was hoping you could help out in stopping the Muslim invasions, and perhaps persuade some of the other European nations to join in as well. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 20:07, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Scandinavia
Sure. I'll do it. So what I am going to do for Scandinavia is: continue war on hurons(or not if mods decide to recount them), expand your colonies by 1000sq km, and in the case that the mods do decide to annul the wars on natives, I'll just change the war part to military/economic developpement. Is that fine or is there anyting else you want.-Lx (leave me a message) 18:25, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, Hindustan will agree to an alliance. I will need your backing for the Brandenburg problem. This is because the Cahphilate and Bengal are teaming up against me for the second time in 20 years. So I invade Bengal, the Cahpilate invades me. Bengal invades me, the Cahpilate supports them. It is a paradox in every meaning of the work (ah good, now we can hope of making some real progress!). Yet there can be a way out, Russian backing. If I can get Russia to protect me if any cahpilate nations decide to go aggressive against me, then they will not attack. If Bengal teams up with Brandenburg, then I will ask you to come to my side. And if we win, I will have no need for any European territory, so, you know, it'll be all yours. All I need now is to ensure that I can help protect Ethiopia in a worst case senario. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 00:36, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Brandenburg no longer a problem, Scraw is with us. Check out my talkpage, Imp's, Lx's, and Viva's. Should give you a good idea of what kind of hell is raining down over the next 96 hours. We're talking about the complete collapse of the Caliphate. But we need massive amounts of backing. (This is just so you understand the situation when you get back, I know you're gone.) The Royal Guns (talk) 02:19, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

I knew that game became total and utter BS. Meh. Let it join the ranks of the failures.

In other news, I have no royal blood in me other than the fact that I had an ancestor working in the Mughal courts. So basically I come from waiters and cooks. (And let's face it. My people cook good.) Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:30, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

All that I can say as look at the stats. Bavaria has never brutally butchered any kind of people for being different, we have been involved in few wars, and have been the catalyst for peace numerous times. We are the central bank of Europe. All we want is to be left alone to practice our affairs, and yes we do have an alliance. I know that this is a lot so I won't tell you where to side, just remember the so called evil Kappelists never rounded up poeple and left them in the town sqaure to die, we never rounded up Catholics nd had them hung outside the gates. Look at our post, we even let the Catholics STAY without harsh punishments, what side seems to be the most level?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:06, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Where exactly did Lurk say this to you? I checked your talk page but saw nothing of the sort. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:06, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

That is a loop-hole I assume. Ah well, at least you only used the l-hole for 1 colony. Anyway I'll be taking a colony from Savoy-Naples this year anyway (their one in the Congo is going to be wiped out by disease). As for the colonies in Asia, I'll look into it but I so far see no European colonies there on the map.

Also I am not currently Caliph but you can form a trading pact with Syria if you wish, so go ask Fed as he rules Syria. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:48, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Rumelia offers the hand of Amber Joseni, daughter of the Rumelian sultan and the neice of the Wallachian Sultana. She is 23 years of age and Orthodox Christain. Looks strikingly simalair to Angelina Jolee. (DeanSims: Talk) 12:46, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Venice has bad relations with the other Italian States. They envy our wealth and we must constantly fight to protect our sovreign territory. Scandinator (talk) 06:28, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sure I'm in. There nation is overextended and screams unstable. Maybe its time for them to downsize a little. Scandinator (talk) 13:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Medieval World
It seems like you missed the first turn. Cosman246 (talk) 19:30, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

MW
Who are you? The Ummayyads? My plan was to slowly conquer Arabia and North Africa and then move in Iberia/Andalusia. Then I should slowly wrap around Europe with the eventually Muslim Russia. If you can enlarge yourself in Europe to help me massify (lol "massify") Islam, then I can one day make Europe the Africa of OTL. Yay me. Yay you. Yay Andrew. Yay for ATLs.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:42, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Pelo que eu lembre, eu não respondi àquela oferta, e eu nem sei se vale a pena mais, contando que basicamente todos os pontos possíveis da América e da áfrica já foram ocupados.E, por obséquio, o que você planeja com aquela outra parte sobre herdeiros?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:55, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, they said if we attack any of their Kappelist DEFENDANT allies. So maybe you can create a war, with Schleswig-Holstein starting a rebellion against you, Scandinavia, so then we will have a war of defense and they shall aid us. And then we can beat the gallion out of the Caliphate, too, if we need to.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:39, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Apparently, we got into a personal union between ourselves.i don't know what you are planning, with you making Dinis the heir to the Scandinavian crown (i assume that Prince of Finland means that), but i would like to warn you that in 1562, Dinis only will spend some few months as king of Portugal, and then he will die with no surviving offspring, and then he will be succeeded by his brother Afonso.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:16, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

1555. Wanna pull them at the same time? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 05:03, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, aren't you a little too far to be doing all this?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 05:12, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but Dinis is already married to a French princess since 1543. If this marriage can't be annulled, you can marry this Bavarian princess to Afonso.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:07, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

So, what do you think about what i said above?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:10, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Dinis has kids, but none of his offspring will outlive him.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:30, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Nothing. i was just trying to warn you of the fact before you planned too much for him as soon as he got to the throne, and i ended up also warning you that the royal marriage that you arranged for Dinis couldn't happen because i had arranged one for him before.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:54, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Calm down, AP. I'm just trying to make sure he doesn't get too angry or leave the game. Don't worry: I care about plausibility more than 'bias' Cosman246 (talk) 01:08, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Stirlings
So long as you have more than 100 edits you can nominate people, timelines, etc. for awards. You've got a number far larger, so yes, you can make nominations on the page, which you can find here. Lordganon (talk) 11:19, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Btw, Al Hamilton was born in the present-day US of A, as I see no reason for him to be in the West Indies at birth. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 23:16, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Venice
I leave on the turn starting in 1565. Just alternate between expanding my economy and military and expand Nuovo Treviso, Nuovo Venexia, Nuovo Firenze and Nuovo Brecsia by 1000sqkm each. If Scandinavia gets into a war, Venice and all my puppets will join. Scandinator (talk) 23:36, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

OK then. Just remember, whatever we do, we have the Qi'fan Russ on our side! Basically, my plan is for you to conquer North Africa and Iberia, while I focus on the Middle East, India, East Africa, and Turkestan. We should do some sort of royal marriage, ex: the only daughter of your Caliph to my heir, or something like that. Then, if the Romans attack me or the Franks attack you, we've got each other. Otherwise it's implausible for us to help each other.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:56, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

on the matter of the personal union, i suggest that you take a look at my nation page, as Afonso already has two children older than the one added in 1559.i just didn't post nothing about it because in Portugal, he's just the Count of Trancoso, not very important.Anyway, next time we'll have to get into a consensus about Garcia and his sucessors, but this will be after 1573.it is on the "current family" section.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:06, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ok final set of instructions, support the Pope against Milan, support Scandinavia against anyone. You have the support of Piedmont, Sicily, Sardinia, Naples, Modena, Siena, Croatia and Venice. Scandinator (talk) 16:03, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

About France and Burgundy land deal.
Technically, I owe the Kingdom of Burgundy land, for them helping out in allowing the Auvergne take back France in this Timeline. (PMII) As a result, I'm in some sort of alliance with them. Though admittedly, I don't know if his country is becoming aggressive to my Kingdom of France. How do you think I should deal with this? Stewdio333 (talk) 06:11, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

I do agree that I shouldn't be taking anyone's crap, I AM the great and powerful France. I want to come to a peaceful agreement, while not giving away too much land. Is it possible just to give a tiny bit of land that would connect Burgundy and the Coastal Colonies, because that's all I think he wants. What's your opinion on this? Stewdio333 (talk) 06:19, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki
hi, would like to know if you would be willing to Come and Play in Map Game wiki any kind of Game you want, as I Want to Re activate the Map game wiki as an alternative way to the Althistory one, it would be also a good place to Make any sort of Map game project you might want 90.244.93.2 15:28, December 26, 2012 (UTC), and I know this is spam but i think that it is for a good cause, so...

Secret Color-Whipping Diplomacy
Like never before. As soon as I'm the Emperor, he plans on leaving the Empire, so we can attack, divide, and conquer. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 22:22, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll figure something out. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:47, December 27, 2012 (UTC)



Answer
No, they would not do so. Not a word of that could ever actually happen. Lordganon (talk) 06:33, December 28, 2012 (UTC)



Well, apparently, i will have to travel today, and only will come back somehwere arounf Wednesday or the day before wednesday, and im not sure if the internet is going to work on my laptop, since it hasn't been working since before yesterday there, so if i am not able to post, you can post for me until i come back.In case this happens, don't involve Portugal in any war unless it is attacked, and basically do what i am doing lately on my posts.I also have already predicted what my part on the next map will look like, so in the colonies, there is what you got to do on expanding: (você vai ter que editar a página para ver.)

All expansion on Pará must be along the Maranhão (OTL Amazonas), all expansion on Cisplatina must be along the Uruguay river and all expansion on São Vicente must be along the Tietê.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:49, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for posting for me during these days, but i still have to correct some things you got wrong on my posts.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 09:45, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for finally informing me which colony is which.Ah, and i updated your colonies.However, i had to do the map in a hurry in 1566 because i wouldn't have time to do it all in 1569, so i had to predict how the colonies would expand, and since Venice's colonies had stopped expanding in 1566, i reduced Venetian expansion.but i added your expansion, but keep in mind that the maximum you can expand is 2000 sq km, not 3000.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:30, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ah.he probably misread the rules. the rules say that if one colony is older than 50 years, that colony has a expansion bonus of 100 sq km, not 1000 sq km.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:14, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, coming back to the issue of the personal union, Afonso X and I's reign will end in 10 years, and then João, his eldest son will become king, and then will die childless, being succeeded by his brother Garcia.since the latter's name is untranslatable (i guess) on Scandinavia, his regnal name there will be Erik. (now if he will be IV or V, i don't know).is 1570, so Garcia is 13 and João is 15. as such, i propose that you decide with who João will marry while i marry Garcia with a Portuguese noble.

P.s. = i saw your nation page.my royal house is Avis, not Bragança.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:40, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

AH, this was probbaly becuas i focused most of the expansion on the Nova Scotia colony.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:26, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Radioactive Tide Reloaded!
You're invited to the post-apocalyptic map game, Radioactive Tide Reloaded! It has begun. Bfoxius (talk)

Bavaria is now free in PM2, would you care to ally, I need some bad. Also in anything goes down in medieval World with the Christians, we can invade. those pompous jerksAndr3w777 (talk) 06:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

not Kappelist, I decided to settle for Catholic, due to the politcal climateAndr3w777 (talk) 06:22, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

I believe it is time for a full invasion of the Eastern Empire. They are encroaching on my territory in Siberia and eastern Asia. And they've imprisoned a Muslim. If that isn't a casus belie I don't know what is.Andr3w777 (talk) 15:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

PM2
Hmm.

Well, I did have a plan. Starting in 1570, I'll have the surviving Russian royal families (ALL of Russia is taken, including Novgorod) start insurrections in their countries- tiny ones. Following this, they officially rebel in 1575, with a 1*5 bonus, and drive them out. Pretty much similar to your plan, then!

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:17, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes, and deal. And thank you.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:06, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

1 and 2: OK.

3: Yes.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 18:56, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Stirlings
I do indeed remember that!

Thank you for putting us down for it; a lesser person would have just put themselves as the author, thank you for putting me down as well!

Hope we win, Callumthered (talk) 06:49, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there. We need a few more members for After the Storm (Map Game) so just wondering if you have enough time to participate - thanks. Pavillion (talk) 22:45, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

War of SS
France and Spain really cannot win. Quite frankly, the otl result was in most ways a "win" for them, as the French got their way in Spain - what they went to war over in the first place.

Past that? They can only win in a small way in Europe i.e. they aren't taking anyone over, maybe a few cities change hands, etc. They're more or less screwed anywhere else.

It's a matter of strengths of the individual powers, and overall abilities in the era.

So, winning in the manner that you're meaning? Not at all possible without changes going far back, negating the war anyways.

Lordganon (talk) 14:50, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. I also had another idea, but I believe I trashed it.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 16:56, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Blast From the Past
Confederation of Latin America? It would be nice to start off my comeback to the wiki with that. Why not? I'll join in. Ianian58 (talk) 03:34, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Alrighty, though maybe we should develop ourselves a bit, I definetly need to clean up the liberal and conservative parties in Colombia first which should take a while, so atleast get Sine. Ianian58 (talk) 03:41, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

First I'll start off by saying I love the flag, and then by develop I mean clean out the liberals and conservatives. Because if I don't well let's just say it gets complicated with a 300,000+ dead civil war. Liberals and Conservatives never really got along here. Ianian58 (talk) 04:03, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

First, you are expanding 42 px per turn.i am expanding your colonies on this rate.If you compare the maps of 1570 and 1575 (at least my versions), you will see that they were expanded.As for the Eriksmark, i didn't add because i didn't know where it was located.Your Huron war was invalid because you had no way to reach them.And your colony on Nova Scotia can't enter the St. Lawrence becuse Novgorod is already there.And 42 pixels isn't all that when you take into acccount that chunk of America's size.and what you say about the personal union?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:23, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

You still had no way to reach them.It was decided that a nation couldn't be invaded through waterways not shown entirely on the map. (After all, if one could, then say, Moldavia could invade Austria just by going along the Danube) Anyway, Afonso is going to die in 1580.As such, he is going to be succeeded by his eldest son João (Johan).João will die childless in 1583, as i have already said before.then, João will be succeeded by his brother Garcia, which will be referred to as Erik in Scandinavia as his Portuguese name has no other equivalent there.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 19:53, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

My original plan was Garcia dying in 1622.However, your plan will force my dynasty change to happen way earlier.Originally, i planned for Garcia to have only one son, Duarte, which then, would die with no surviving issue in 1640, with his older sister marrying the Count of Lara, thus starting the rule of the House of Lara in Portugal.

How about thus: Garcia rules until 1587, but his only son doesn't survive him, so he is succeeded by this Karina, which i will refer to as Urraca in Portugal because this name has no equivalent here, as much as you'll refer to Garcia as Erik.She will still marry the future Count of Lara, though.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:16, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it was, but then, since he has wanting this colony on the map since 1560, i added it in 1575, and the other colony i will add this year,as it is 1580.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:52, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

An example of table:

Copy all the code that is on this table (you will have to edit the page for that), and replace all information (like, substituting 1436 for 1504) by your own information.the division between one section and other is in the "|-", so when you create a new section, copy from there until before the next one appearing.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:34, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

States of America 5 Reloaded
Hey I'm trying to get the game back up again so join if youre interested

CommanderOfTheFourthReich 01:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

North or South Gibraltar Point, or both. If I get the western coast of Morroco it wouldnt matter to me. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 06:02, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I voted for you, just thought you should know. Saamwiil, the Humble 18:37, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm totally fine with that, you can have that territory. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 21:12, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Scraw actually already said he was gonna make it, so no worries. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 23:16, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Incas
I'm in. Can I take the northern areas? Scandinator (talk) 01:15, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Really? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:19, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Spain's closer than you are. And they did it before the Incans implausibly got some tech from Naples and Burgundy. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, Burgundy took care of that. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:29, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, fail. Yeah, we should do something about that. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:31, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Well, you can count me in. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:36, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

I want in too. CourageousLife (talk) 01:44, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

What would this war entail? I thought it was just the Incans. CourageousLife (talk) 01:48, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Burgundy won't be able to topple the government alone and being so far away in a hostile nation then it would rapidly revert to status quo as the Bugundian portion of the Incan Empire collapses within a few years of the war. Scandinator (talk) 03:01, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

You can choose. I don't mind. Scandinator (talk) 11:16, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

My colony is oversized? Nice abuse of powers. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:42, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

on the Huron people. Nowhere near my colony. Also, it is against the rules to enclose another colony in, which is why Collie expanded your whole colony slowly west instead of just the northern border, which would be cheating. Stop powergaming. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:44, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see how it is. Threatening us for ' speaking. ' Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:44, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I still advise you to read the article. It would be beneficial to help you learn that your conquest of the Huron is nowhere near my colony. End of story. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:58, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I have an idea. Could you meet me in the chat right now?

Also, about our surviving to the top, my best guess is that we have to take out B right after the HRE collapses (see my proposal on the game talk) and then let the V economy collapse and perhaps cut off their colonies by closing the G. Then we can gang up on F and use A to force our way into C to make an S and then crash P to eliminate all our opponents. R is gone forever now, and we are the best of the best in Europe right now, save for P, which is the tough competition. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 04:25, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I wnet to ask you this, as you are a mod, and i need an second opnion about this, as i've asked Lurker already but i don't think he'll answer:

As you might know Castille's player is inactive in all but name.he is still is up on the player list and has an color on the map.This is the first time that an situation like this happens.the last situation remotely like this (Great Mediterranean war) didn't had the player absent for so long.The question is whether i should treat Castille like a player nation, like he technically is, and he receives no bonus, or treat him as NPC, like he should have been declared by the time in which he spent absent, and he receives a bonus.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:49, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Which colony is New Norway? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:16, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Unlimited map games wiki.
Hey would you like to come check out Unlimited map games wiki. It is a website that will have no limitations on mapgames (Time,Nations,ETC) I hope you enjoy!The old baby (talk) 21:31, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Now. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 04:09, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

If Brandenburg gives a tough time ot the Indians, the revolts will spread over into your territority more violently than they what they would have otherwise been. (If he decides to keep fighting them, though he's going to loose because it not 1590 and he control territory which I judge to be larger than OTL New York.  Saamwiil, the Humble 04:33, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Colonies for Sale
The colonies are now up for sale. Additionaly, I'm asking for assistance in recapturing the rebellious southern provinces. CourageousLife (talk) 17:33, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

The NPC nation is assumed to being either developing its economy, infrastructure or military for the last 15 years.if no events hit the nation for the last 15 years, so they developed 5 times each part.so, this 5 is divikded by two and rounded to three. there's a better explanation on the archives.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:14, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, although don't forget that some of them will try to rebel, like Manco Inca and Tupac Amaru did.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:30, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, i planned for her to reign until 1630.by which time she'll be 71.Although Victoria reached 82.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:56, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

But she was born in 1819.she would have died with 91 if she had died in 1910.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 09:03, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Okay.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:21, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Colonies
I forgot I had them for a while, thanks for reminding me. Yes I woyld be interested in conducting north european policy together. I would start by having scandinavia have novgorod become its biggest trade partner and join RETA(Russo-European Trade Alliance), the successor to the Hansa, witch was taken over by me when venice tried to disolve it. We can rename it NETA afterwards(North-European Trade Alliance) or soemthing of the sort if you dont like being part of the Russo-European alliance because it makes you look like a junior partner or something. THe RETA, as successor to the Hansa, took control of its navy. and that shouyld have been updated. I wouldnt mind some help killing great perm though...-Lx (leave me a message) 01:29, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Could you mention your support of the Mayans in your next turn, please?! My algorithm is, literally, down to the wire!! CourageousLife (talk) 21:44, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay, nevermind, thanks! CourageousLife (talk) 23:49, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

No offense or anything, but my nation has harmed no one. Yes we push our banking and trade areas, but that harms no one. It isn't right to pick on someone because they are slightly irritating My nation is a nuetral nation, and the whole idea of splitting apart people of the same ethnicity is perposterous. It isn't equitable nor fair. If I annoy, I will limit it but for goodness sake don't ruin my nation.Andr3w777 (talk) 06:37, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Since I am not considered a mod: Can you enact my idea. Sine agreed to allow some of the Johanist to eneter his Burgundy, so that part is settled. They just need to be written. Saamwiil, the Humble 22:48, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:02, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Nations established exclave like that all the time. Besides, you can just expand around my southern border. I'm only aiming for Michigan. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

When the hell are you going take the time to look at the map? Huh? Because you don't border them. Collie said the exclave is fine, and it's staying there. I am invading the Ohio people. And, I don't have to border them, as I can reach them by water, via the Mississippi and the Ohio.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:35, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I have an idea. This could work out for us. You keep Pennsylvania and the OTL US southern states (as much as you can get), and I take the old Northwest Territory (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, that stuff). However, this will only work if you cede me that weird looking panhandle that goes up to Lake Erie. In exchange, I will give you something else.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:51, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take the 2px.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:10, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, I don't know. Something along the ridiculously uneven border?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:15, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ohio.

And stop messing with the algorithm. It's fine. Three people went through it.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

AxisVAllies reborn

 * It's a who grabs what now. I grabed to save the Aussies since Germany is taking over the world with out question.The River Nile-2 (talk) 09:04, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Dutch Goverment  in exile  to the Duch East Indies (Aussie client) now runs a state in most of  OTL Indonisia.The River Nile-2 (talk) 20:17, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

PM II
The Satomi clan shall accept your trade offer. -Kogasa 2013年1月27日 07:30:23 (JST)

Hey I have a few questions in regards to Britain in PM. As you know I am the ruler of Bavaria. Is it possible in the future for me to leave Bavaria and assume control of Britain? I'm referring of course to if I were attacked and get annexed, I wouldn't want to leave the game, and currently Britain is a mash of NPC's I very meuch would like to see a strong Britain as that didn't happen in the first PM.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Neu Berlin offers Nya Norge a deal. If you cease expansion north along the Great Lake and into OTL Michigan, we will cease expansion that hampers the westwards expansion of Nya Norge.

Essentially, as per our old deal, which we never followed through with, you expand south and take as much of the OTL US South as you can get. You can also expand west along the south of Ohio/Myami, which I do not plan on expanding.

Deal?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:45, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

As long as the Scotland and the rest of your vassals aren't more than half the size of Scandinavia then the rules allow that. You can go a bit over half but your vassal territories can't be larger than your main nation. I'd advise you enquire with Lurk beforehand though, just in case if things get ugly. Which I doubt, but its always good to ask permission. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 02:19, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Still ask, give him some time. He said he'd post when he remembers so he can't mod effectively any more. So just ask him so he isn't unpleasantly surprised when he returns to find his nation destroyed. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:32, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, I was actually, but some crazy person said that I can't send troops where nobody asked for them. Which makes no sense at all. Sending troops where they aren't wanted can be equated to invasion. I can't invade?

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Do you want to smash, crack, and pop some of the British nations later? I think we should take on nations like Wales and Northumbria together. Thoughts?

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Deal.

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First, one thing that i didn't told you about: you can't found a city in OTL Lima, because i'm sure that OTL Lima is on Chimu territory, second, you didn 't informed me what lands you would take, third, since the Aymará are in dark grey, you could just expand your colony into there.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 19:48, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that vassalizing a bunch of tribes, particularly the inland ones, would be easy.especially in only three years.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:29, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Coming back to speak (i had to sleep, so i didn't respond your last comment), now in personal union issues: can i decide with who Urraca/Carina's sons will marry with? i already defined with who the third will marry days ago.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Join Chat?
Hello, I was wondering if you could join chat? I have an idea I'd like to run across you. Thanks,

PMII Central and European Trade Monopoly
To the Emperor of Scandinavia. The Doge of Venice, Angelo Benedetti wishes to propose an exchange of territories with Scandinavia. In return for Venetian help (coalition war) in a joint Scandi-Venetian invasion of the Netherlands and the full annexation of the rich and powerful Dutch lands including the crucial ports of Antwerp, Rotterdam and Amsterdam to Scandinavia; Venice would like to purchase Gibraltar and Western Cuba. Thus allowing Scandinavia full control of trade in Germany and the Northern half of Eastern Europe. Deal? We can also throw in most of OTL Belgium to convince Burgundy to join the war if we need. Scandinator (talk) 12:39, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Italy and its 10 alies promise support against Spain and ask for aid in defeating South Afica in the future. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

Again, you are not a mapmaker, you are not supposed to just post another map (that is almost exactly like mine, but with an different name).if there is need for correction, There is a "Upload new version of this file" option on the pre-existing file page.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:21, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

If you're gonna help in the war, would you mind making the algorithm. So far Aragon has sent MV for sure. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 02:58, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

What i'm trying to say is, you can keep editing, but don't put your editions under a different name, as then we'll have two almost equal maps.as i already said thrice, you just need to select the "Upload new version" on the pre-existing file.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:14, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Spanish-CoLA Talks
Look, we Spainards know that CoLA does not like us, since you look down on our fascist ways, but we will respect your neutrality, and would not attack your nation, unless you attacked first. Our beef is mostly with the U.S. and Sweden, and we will respect your wishes, and apologize for the nuclear test 500 km northeast to the Venezeulan Coast. It was just bad timing, okay? Stewdio333 (talk) 04:12, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Don't listen to the Fascist Spainiards (and Germans), they will start attacking you when they finished the US and Sweden and Canada and Italy and etc.

Denmark? Is that you? Anyways, we said we would respect CoLA's neutrality, plus, I see that both of us share a common enemy. We have said that as long as the SAD promises to let us keep their oil, they would receive independence politically, and have their own laws. We don't know how Germany would react over these political talks, but they would be happy to hear that a major threat could be crushed. Stewdio333 (talk) 04:33, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

We will help you bring down Italy if you want. We can all gang up on it. We hate it, you hate it, the US hates it, what's really left, eh?

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Oh yes, that is me, Stewdio333. Denmark. Have YOU ever noticed what fascists do in real life? Have you read what fascism is? One element of fascism is a foreign policy inspired by the myth of national power and greatness, 'with the goal of imperialist expansion. Goal of the foreign policy is imperialist expansion.' See. You mustn't have read what fascism is. Regards, Laptop Zombie 04:41, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

I'm starting de-con mod events.

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Well taking Haiti wasn't really helping with the planned peaceful expansion, but I appreciate the gesture. I'll try to work along with you instead of fight. Really I respect you, its just the simple things I whine about. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 06:23, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

AVArb
Australia was going to giving up it's empire, but I will accelerate this. We only want 5 nukes for a last ditch weapon and will do tests for several;l more years, unlike others, that have hundreds all read. I am dabbling in space, but have far from launched anything (I reckoned on 1960-61). Italy defied OTL, when It annexed Ethiopia, prior to WW2. Canada was picking on the USA. The AU winning is a bit weird to say the least. Franco is not as daft as to start WW3 or blackmail the USA. Apart from 4 ex-French states, Portugal, Liberia, Ireland, Afghaista, Pakistan, Australian Indochina, The Middle East, Bolivia, Central America and W. Indonesia, it's all conquered by 1953! I put on the talk page empires were out of date http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Axis_vs_Allies:_Reborn_%28Map_Game%29#Unabashed_imperialism, that we should turn to stuff like space and earlier gave up W. Indonesia! Australia is running to keep up. We are scared. I'm allied to vertuly every one, as is every one else like OTL Europe prior to WW1. I think most want a rapid plunge to WW3. Let them, and condemn the fools with a scenario like Doomsday 1983. As there lands burn the Swiss, Aussies, NZ, CoLA and India can laugh at them and win as the only serving nations. Sorry, I just felt like venting of some venom about some problems. Thanks for the revolt in China, but it should be a bit slower, or perhaps someone in the USSR is helping them. I don't want Tibet joining China since the Tibetans OTL hate Chinese (who then OTL conquered it in 1955-6) and others have mentioned E. Turkestan had ATL joined the USSR and so is probably for going it's own way and not wanting to revert to China.Your O.K.! PS- I've got a novel OTL civil plan for 1955.5 and I don't want to harm your nation, so try and protect your commodity sector (metals, diamonds, etc) from some price fluctuations. Hint, hint. [[User:The River Nile-2|The River Nile-2] (talk) 18:36, February 16, 2013 (UTC)]