User talk:Candiesrgood

Alliance
Yeah no alliance SpunkyMora (talk) 13:42, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

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Battle of Britain (Map Game)

Awesome history 28 (talk) 15:43, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Philipines and Moroland
I don't think my althistory about the Philippines and Moroland are too implausible. First, the population of Mindanao and Sulu would be only or maybe less than 3 millions if the islands did not joins the current Republic of the Philippines since that is the number of possible population without any further migrations from Luzon or the Visayas. You must know the policy of Commonwealth of the Phillipines in late 1930s that settled the people from Luzon or the Visayas to Mindanao was in order to make Luzon a less not crowded with growing population.

Second, before your argues that the Muslim majority is only limited in ARMM, you must know that in 1920s and 1930s, Muslim was majority in all parts of Mindanao and Sulu. They were made into a minority only due the Commonwealth policy of migrations in late 1930s as I said first before. That policy is the very truly reason why now Mindanao and Sulu are rampaged by an Islamic rebellion since in any sense, Mindanao and Sulu are further "colonized" by the Christian population from the north.

Third, Spanish is not the official language of the Philippines, but it WAS a common language or lingua franca used by the population of the islands prior to the Spanish-American War. In my timeline, the Spanish-American War did not happening in the Philippines and it was Japan, instead of the United States, that got the islands. The use of Spanish was drastically reduced in our real time due to the American colonial education policy that taught English in the schools. Filipino (or that I personally called as the "Tagalog-based Wikang Pambansa") is never in common use even in 1930s. Only after the Japanese invasion in 1940s that the Tagalog-based Wikang Pambansa started to be used in common use.

Fourth, if the political development of Mindanao and Sulu was independent from the Luzon and the Visayas one, I am 100% sure that the Moros will uses Malay as their unifying language. The Moros, like the Filipinos, is not a single homogenous people, instead they are a collection of many different tribes with common Islamic faith. Tausug or Sulu language will be limited only in Sulu. In fact, Malay was a very prominent language in Southeast Asia even before World War II. It was the language of trades and politics, not only in the Muslim-dominated regions, but also the Christian ones (Christian-dominated North Sulawesi used a Malay creole language since 19th century and Malay was a very popular lingua franca in Indonesia, even for the Dutch elites and Indos). Any political movements in Mindanao and Sulu on the Philippines without American colonization will be plausibly promotes Malay as the unifying language.

Fifth, Zamboanga is a Filipino spelling. For Mindanao population, it will be read instead with "j" Malay pronounciation, therefore it will be spelled as "Jamboanga".

FirstStooge (talk) 21:57, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Filipino? No, that isn't a true language. Its basically tagalog. The Philippines has great linguistic diversity, and tagalog is spoken by only a quarter of its people. A majority of filipinos are trilingual. While Spanish is a common language, its native languages are spoken by more people. I don't think they would make it their official language because of nationalistic reasons. Candiesrgood (talk) 08:12, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

I will considers about that. FirstStooge (talk) 21:41, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not complaining 'bout it, but, isn't "Wikang Pambansa" essentially tagalog? I can speak tagalog, and from what I see, its basically the same. Candiesrgood (talk) 07:39, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

That is a real-life problem, but in my timeline, Wikang Pambansa is supposed to be a standardized Tagalog, just like Bahasa Indonesia (standardized Malay in Indonesia), Bahasa Malaysia (standardized Malay in Malaysia), or like Urdu and Hindi, basically a same language, but with two different standardizations. FirstStooge (talk) 09:34, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

In ashes of rome map game I am Gokturk Khaganate. I was wondering if after you got a bunch of land from Gorgeyeo, you'd back off in the war so I could beat Liang easier and you'd still get all Gorgeyeo Korean land  Revolution 9 (talk) 01:12, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

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Re:ASEAN
I'll try.

Chat
Come now on chat. AM, the King of the Banat (talk) 10:06, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

china and japan
we are fighting a war that you cant win, korea alreadyt agreed to a protecterate treaty with me that leaves you fighting in manchuria against me and korea, so ill offer you terms surrender taiwan and manchuria to me and i will end the war without attacking neijing and further destabalizing your regime. With Blood and Iron (talk) 18:24, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

The Global War Resurrected Map Game
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Vatonica

Diversa Pars II
These are the turns that u signed up for this week:

Tuesday (2012): 5 AM - 5 PM (British time)

If this does not suit u then please swap your turn with somebody else.

Thanks,

Awesome history 28 (talk) 17:51, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

I have ties to China in TGWR.

Dow adoption
I was planning on making it a series so the next game will be a total different in this regard. if you want to help me work on it let me know i will put it up here soon. -Feud

I would want to help you make it, just tell me anything you need. On this new game, may I be a mod? ~ There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, nigga. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Just asking
I'm sorry if I bother you, but are you a SONE? Your profile page shows that. And, I see you also like Exid. If you are a kpop fans, then nice to meet you.

Sorry again for asking, have a nice holiday :)

FirstStooge (talk) 14:35, December 27, 2015 (UTC)

Yes indeed. I also like EXO, BIG BANG, f(x), SISTAR, etc. Nice meeting you! [•~•] ~ Candiesrgood

Nice to meet you too. :) FirstStooge (talk) 05:02, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Memes
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Hi, I understand what you have said but I re-added two pictures, is it fine with you if I re-add them into my profile page? I have not re-added any of those "useless" photos. If you do not like me to re-add these pictures, just delete them. (below) ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, nigga. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


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 * Thank you for the apology. For now, I'll just re-add the two pictures above (the dog and the cat). ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, nigga. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  anormal-cat-cute-cutie-Favim.com-3101998.jpg Thankyou.gif

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http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/The_New_World_Order_%28Map_Game%29

that is the map game

Nlenhardt (talk) 20:17, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Nlenhardt (talk) 20:17, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Come on chat Erizium (talk) 16:14, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!
I'm like the English professor in the Men's Room.

I don't write on the walls.

I just correct the spelling and grammar.

Bil EoGuy (talk) 16:12, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

Signature
Change it. It's offensive, if nothing else. Lordganon (talk) 12:42, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

I really don't understand why the sentence is offensive. I get that the word "nigga" might be offensive, and that's why I will remove it from my sig. ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, bruh. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

New World Order
See my assessment on the talk page. I believe this is much closer to regulations than it was originally. There are a couple of minor flaws, but as soon as I can confer with Bfox I'm sure it will pass through inspection.

Have a good day, I would like to thank Feud for making Borealia possible  21:22, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

When will you assess it? Is a new mod poll going to be set up? ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, bruh. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I apologise for not checking.

Chat
Get into chat. Gotta talk to you. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 10:11, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

What is the best time for you to chat? I wanted to know what it was you needed me for day before yesterday. It sounded important. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:06, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Valentine's Day


See this wonderous array of dazzling stars? They are eternally embedded in the infinite, empty expanse that is your cold, black heart. Enjoy! -Nathan

Anaei
Candy, appearantly there is a rumor going around that I said something to Anaei that angered him. Rumor has it you were the one you brought this up as you spoke to Anaei after it happened. I would like to know what it was Anaei said I did that angered him. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:56, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Translation
Think you can translate "Welcome to the Hani Empire" for me? I'd like to see an average phrase that might be common in your nation. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 08:45, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

"Welcome to the Hani Empire" in Han is transliterated as Salgoissda sha Jeguk nan Hani. Two of the words are Korean loanwords. ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, bruh. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

So Hani is a mixture of Tagalog and Korean? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:01, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Han has a grammar structure very similar to Tagalog and is a Philippine language (thus also being an Austronesian language). However, it has numerous Japanese influences as well as numerous Korean and Chinese loanwords. I'll give a comparison of both languages.
 * I am a person. Ako ay isang tao. (Tagalog) Hachiwa yinshita salam. (Han)
 * I want to eat some food. Gusto ko magkain ng mga pagkain. (Tagalog) Gushitoko dashikayin nanman wiroyumshigu. (Han)
 * Hi, I am Viva and I am from Xyon. Kamusta, ako si Viva, at ako ay taga Xyon. (Tagalog) Kamushita, hachishi Vivayato hachi wataka Shiyon.
 * Have you seen those ugly candy? Nakita mo ba yung mga kending panget? (Tagalog) Nakita noba yushitaman gwajasou chuaghan? (Han)
 * The candies are fighting! Yung mga kendi ay nag lalaban! (Tagalog) Yushitaman gwajawa nidassassaum! (Han)

~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, bruh. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

95T
I think that's too large of a price to pay, especially when I can unite Japan on my own. Here's what I'll say: If you trade with me and don't invade Japan now, then I won't invade you. Furthermore, when I'm isolationist, I will be opening up a few ports to specific countries in exchange for favors, and I can give you a port on Kyushu.

Candies, I am a bit confused about China's invasion of Japan. I won't offer you both Hokkaido and Ryushu, just Ryushu and the islands to the south like Okinawa, but I think it is in your best interests to try to stop China. If they conquer Japan, then they will easily invade you next, and become one of the most powerful countries in the world. I'm also not sure how this will work because the mods don't like to do algos in Japan, because it's tribal. I'll talk to them. Vatonica (talk) 11:51, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Chat
Can't right now soz FP ( Now 10% edgier!!!  ) 11:26, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Aww, well, come as soon as possible. ~There was a candy,  and it said,  "Bruh, I'm coming for you, bruh. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Chat
Candies,

I would like to talk to you, so I'd appreciate it if you would join me here. I'll be waiting.

--Love you, Everyone&#39;s favorite Girl, Kaori! (talk) 00:57, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Emancipation
I know Japan isn't a regional power. I'm gonna make it one. Also, there's only six years of difference. It's not like it's a century too early. —  The  Tim   Man  (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs ) 13:34, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Emancipation
Personally, I have nothing against Korea. I just want to honour my treaty with Japan. —  The  Tim   Man  (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs ) 12:40, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Hi!
Candies, that is always fun for having a Filipino friend (and a K-pop fans too) around here. Believe me XD

Nevertheless, FM had give me such good, detailed answers about my questions regarding Malay language (although I'm a Malay-related descendant myself). That gave me an enlightenment about the Malay language issue on the Philippines, the only Malay-related country in Asia that does not use Malay language. You actually helped me too for verifying FM's answers, giving me a sure conviction about that matter. I believe I will also need your help in the future if I want to develop my althist in the Philippines further in future.

Thank you so much, neomu neomu kamsadeuriguyeo. :)

FirstStooge (talk) 13:09, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Hi
Well, your question is a bit ambiguous for me, Candy. In what context of Japan that you had asking me? Pre-1900? Pre-World War I? Interbellum era? Or World War II? Japan like other imperialist countries of course could be able to allow at least one of its occupied territories to be an independent state. But unless I know about that scenario that you have about Japan, there is nothing that I can able to say.

FirstStooge (talk) 10:29, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

Nay!
Nay! I will never let you overtake me!

As for the India is Great thing, as far as I known there are no problems with copying from a site like Wikipedia, because the plagiarism rules only really stretch to works of fiction (i.e. other althists). Besides, that type of thing is above my pay grade. FP Now 10% edgier!!! 14:40, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Answers
By the end of 1800s, Japan in OTL attempted to make itself in equal standing with Western powers. Western powers did not only associated with its industrial economy, but also imperialism all over the world. Even a small country in Europe such the Netherlands tried to grab a vast archipelago of Indonesia without exhausted for over two centuries. Imperialism was not only about an attempt for getting a lot of natural and human resources from the colonies that would support the industrialization and the economic life of the mother country, but also as the symbol of pride that identified between "powerful" and "ordinary" Western nations. Meiji Japan was aware of these way of thinking. Modernization was equal with industrialization, while industrialization was equal with the expansion of economic interests overseas. In conclusion, Japan wanted to survive from the Western colonialism that rampaged Asia at that time and they want to become like "Westerners" in order to challenge it. Meiji politicians tried to counterbalance this very idea of Westernizing by developing a quasi-religious ideology of kokutai (national sovereignty) in which Japan is the sacred and ancient land led by divine emperors as the centre of the world and the leader of Asian people.

This kokutai idea would serves as the reason why Japan made troubles all around Asia later in WW2. But, also with this idea Japan colonized Taiwan and Korea in 1895 and 1905 respectively. So, if in your timeline Japan tried to conquest your ATL Philippines by the time of WW1, why did they will allow that country to be independent while they still had such chauvinistic idea of kokutai? Japan wanted to expand as wide as possible and they were crazy enough to expand as far as California, Alaska and Chile at that time. So, no matter how implausible your timeline might be, Japan in OTL and Japan in your ATL will never allowing any colony or conquered nation of theirs to be an independent nation by the time of 1920s and 1930s.

Given how strong and influential Japan at the time of WW1, other powers would never directly supports any individual or organization to stand against Japan. In order not to hurt the diplomatic relations, those countries will extraditing and handing the person to Japan. Japan will never sent any assasin or spy to make sure that man stop his activity. Japan will tried that person according to their law in order to show the public "the betrayer of Emperor" in order to strengthen the ideology of kokutai over the populace, both at home and at the colony, and win the public support.

P.S: I knew it already. Please make sure you never any thought to make any reference of "Up & Down" in Hani's national anthem. :v

P.S.II: Thank you, I will. And please make sure too you check Oh My Girl's "Closer" and "Liar Liar" MVs out. They deserve a lot of love as a rookie girl group. <3 <3 <3

FirstStooge (talk) 15:56, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Alright :D

FirstStooge (talk) 17:37, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Now I am waiting for Twice's comeback this week. Once Twice has won 1st place in music shows, I believe there will be OMG's time to shine and occupy the third place in the hierarcy of rookie girl groups (after Girlfriend and Twice, of course).

And, now is April 23, the 5th anniversary of B1A4's debut. Please congratulate me if you don't mind XD

FirstStooge (talk) 18:36, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

I had never been active in chat since my first time joined this wiki in 2012. I DID active in chat about two years ago when people like Mscoree, Imperium Guy, Scrawland Scribblescratch, Kogasa and others still dominated this wiki. However, as the time goes by, I felt chat is not my thing, so I always avoiding to do conversations in chat. I am not very talkative and sociable actually. I love to talk about K-pop, but so far there are only two users on this wiki that I find to have similar taste with me, but that guy went inactive long time ago. When on this wiki, I usually use the role as one of the senior writer-users, focusing my time only for writing my timeline and theorizing about Althistory as well as watching and observing new users and their articles. ^_^"

FirstStooge (talk) 04:00, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Departure
It's up to you to decide, but I feel like it would be saddening to see you leave this wiki. If you want any help, I am more than happy to speak to me on chat or on my talk page.

Thank you
This is a formal thanks for making that algorithm for me.

Nlenhardt (talk) 14:42, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re:HELP
Sorry for late response. I am on my last year in college, so currently my life is terribly busy :3

Well, I am not into map games, so I can not helping to moderate you and the "extremists" (I say...). However, if you want an answer about those matter, perhaps I can helping for a bit.

First, the Meiji Restoration and the Gwangmu Reform actually correlates with each other. You can not having the Gwangmu if there is no the Meiji pre-existed. After the Japanese successfully modernized their country, there were two factions within the Joseon government: the one who sought to keep the Chinese model of government and its Confucian-based law and the one who sought to copy the Japanese way of modernization and Westernization. The former is pretty much isolationist in thinking and believed Korea as a "little China" with its own universe. They refused an existence of another Asian empire aside of China, a very reason why Japan almost invaded Korea in 1870s. On other hand, the latter is pretty much progressive and Japan in no way threatening Korea's existence. In fact, Japan inspired them to stand for their own independence, especially from China.

In conclusion, there is almost implausible for Korea to have any reform of its own inspiration by 1860s and 1870s. Korea was far less important than Japan in which the Western nations never took any serious to open Korea out of its isolation. Foreign powers viewed Korea as simply as an isolated kingdom, a weak tributary of China, like of Mongolia and Tibet. You must take a note that this view continued even through World War II in which the Allied leaders at the Postdam Conference thought Korea must under foreign trusteeship as its seems unable to govern itself albeit a millenium-old of national independence. Japan itself will endured the same way that Korea went through (colonization, economic exploitation, cultural repression, etc...) if they did not open their country out of isolation and did modernization in every life aspects.

So, at the end, you are right about Japan can not doing modernization with its pre-Meiji social structure. The class system was rigid and there was no real united, national government. The Emperors were simply the head of religion, while the Shoguns were actually the real monarchs of Japan. The shoguns even wanted to use the title of "koku-ou" ("king of the nation") during the Edo period. In fact, the shoguns themselves were the head of confederation of semi-independent feudal states that spread throughout the Japanese islands; any attempt for reform can not be effective if this system retained.

However, the three extremists are also right about Korea. Korea can not be modernized unless Japan modernizing itself first. Believe me, Korean national historiography of today is far more biased and less objective. My advice for you, Candy: never read the articles of Korean history in Wikipedia, they are too biased and too chauvinistic.

Well, you can conclude by yourself about this matter. If I continuing to give you a lecture about this matter, I will keep sitting behind my laptop and writing a talk message for you for about 2 hours. This reply will gonna veeeeerrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy loooooooooooong. Fortunately, I decided not doing that XD

I apologize for late reply, but this is the best that I can do. Thank you and have a nice day. :)

P.S. Oh My Girl's fandom is "Miracle"...and I'm part of it. I hope you can joining us one day in future. :3

FirstStooge (talk) 12:25, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hi there Candies, I noticed that you were interested in Venusian Haven. I am too. As Nuke isn't working on it right now and seems reluctant to allow us to edit any proper pages, so perhaps we could make a sandbox and bounce some ideas? FP Now 10% edgier!!! 20:02, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Korea's reform
If China is reformed by the Taiping Kingdom, Korea will very much furthering their isolation. They will declare independence from non-Confucian China and isolate themselves more, probably at the level of Edo Japan. They are threatened by Taiping China, they are threatened by Japan and they are afraid of Western imperialism (especially Russia). Then, is there any other option other than limiting their trade and closing their border from both side?

Any reform from within is impossible. The Daewongun is not anti-Western; he is anti-foreigners, including the Japanese and even the Chinese, and pretty much a patriot for his country (although not an enlightened patriot). The Daewongun will isolates Korea even more in order to make sure the Confucian social order prevails in Korea. On other hand, young King Gojong is influenced by his wife, Queen Min, and lack of charisma like the Meiji Emperor has; he can not be a Meiji for Korea. Unless there is a rebellion to force the government to open themselves, you can not expect more about Korea.

FirstStooge (talk) 02:34, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

I can not say that is plausible enough, but at least it will having a more likely possibility.

FirstStooge (talk) 04:48, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Re:Suggestion
Okay cool. We can discuss on chat soon or something. I dunno. Make suggestions. Say words. Bleh. FP Now 10% edgier!!! 08:13, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

Solution for Korea
Japan must be colonized by a foreign power first in order to make Korea felt threatened. If Korea felt threatened for watching a country close to its peninsula got colonized, they will attempted, at least, to modernize their military and economy. For the rest of modernization in Korea, is up to you.

FirstStooge (talk) 09:18, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it must be directly colonized. Otherwise, there is no other way.

FirstStooge (talk) 09:34, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

For the Cleopatra of Hani
Candy,

The reason I may appear to be ignoring you is not that I lack any love for the wiki, or you, but that I love my degree more. When I finish with my finals campaign this week, then I will make my triumphant return.

Sincerely,

Han Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  22:44, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Well, don't let me stand in the way of your amusment. Fire away! Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  19:45, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Edits
Sorry, I'm busy right now so if I did come on chat I wouldn't be able to have an extended conversation, and I'd just be on overwatch.

And there's a difference between edit-spamming and doing a service for the wiki ;)

(P.S. gg with overtaking me, it's actually quite impressive how quickly you did it)

FP Now 10% edgier!!! 11:11, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Mod event
There has been an attempt on the Emperor's life. You might want to deal with this. —  The  Tim   Man  (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs ) 04:21, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Message 4/5/16
Sorry, I won't be able to go on chat for quite some time because of exams. I will maintain the game, but direct communication won't be possible because of my time commitments. —  The  Tim   Man  (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs ) 05:01, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

RE: German translation
No, not necessarily. Since you wrote "Anssan", I changed it to "Anßan" since the letter ß represents an "ss" sound in German typography. —  The  Tim   Man  (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs ) 15:24, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Philippines (C, P, C)
Well, I never intended to replace Tagalog with Malay though. That is too unlikely for me too. As you can see, in my timeline the Malay language movement is simply a non-political intellectual activism. In fact, ITTL the prominent figures for such movement (Venceslao, Macapagal, etc.) will eventually dropped their activism and instead joined the Nationalists who had been supportive toward Tagalog-centric nationalism. Venceslao and Macapagal later does not promoted such idea of making Malay as a national language anymore, instead they will working to establish closer relations with their Malay-speaking neighbours such Indonesia and Malaya in the post-independence era. The Philippines will be simply a copy of my ATL Japan in Southeast Asia, a nationalist single-party state (yay for Benigno Ramos!).

FirstStooge (talk) 16:34, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Chat fight
Hey I saw what had happened on chat, are you okay?---Lieutenant113 (talk) 02:19, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Okay just making sure, your my friend so I just wanted to see if your fine.---Lieutenant113 (talk) 16:32, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Act of Ambition <p style="font-weight:normal;">This is a notifcation to say Act of Ambition (Map Game) the map game which you signed up for has started and therefore you can now post your first turn on this new game. Person67 (talk) 18:02, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Your turn in GoN, please post when you get a chance. Thanks,

GoN
Yeah, of course you an rejoin, but you can't reserve Manchuria, sorry.

Re:Just a little nitpick
Hmm, you can read this journal if you have a time (http://lup.lub.lu.se/student-papers/record/1626629/file/1626632.pdf). That's just a theory, of course. But, it is an Alternate World. Even if in the real time, the scholars agreed that Korean and Japanese languages shared a lot of similarities including several cognates from its linguistic predecessors both in the islands and the peninsula, such theory about Austronesian origin of the Japanese language would be put forward politically to promote a link between Japan and Southeast Asia. As you can see on this Althist, Japan did not colonizes Korea, but the Philippines instead. Politically, an effort to create a common linguistic root between the colonizers and the colonized will justify the Japanese rule on the Philippines.

In fact if it is only an alternate history, the Japanese language will having grammatical structure similarity with Korean, that does not means Japanese is ONLY rooted from Korean. You must understand there were efforts by Korean nationalist historians whose as revisionists as Japanese nationalist historians to push a theory of "Japanese is the descendant of Koreans". Such theory was also expanded into the linguistic study. Proto-Korean with its Altaic features contributed to the evolution of linguistic structure and vocabularies of Japanese. However, you must notice that Japanese of past is different with Japanese of today. Japanese people was indeed not a single race as today; it is created through intermarriages between several ancient tribes in the islands, such ancient Austronesians in southern Kyushu and Ryukyu who migrated from Taiwan, ancient proto-Koreans in southern tip of Korean peninsula and northern Kyushu who called themselves "Wa", Ainus in northern Honshu and Hokkaido and Emishi in the rest of Honshu.

And, you must notice, that will I refuse to group Korean and Japanese as one group either linguistically or genetically, I can not group Japanese and Austronesian into a common group either for Japanese people, culture and language even in OTL. You did a simplification about Korean and Japanese as one group, so did I with Japanese and Austronesian. Remember, Japanese history is still a shrouded cloud today for the lack of ancient records that can explain the complete historiography of its people and its culture. I suggest you to try reading several compilations of Japanese folk stories so you can find that Japanese culture do having a wide spectrum of cultural influence through their history that can not be explained simply by a simplification of scientific studies.

FirstStooge (talk) 07:55, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Note: Yes, I do now. But, I like Oh My Girl and Twice more :3


 * "...Russia and Japan agreed to divide Korea to their respective spheres of influences along the 38th parallel north and Karafuto Island along the 50th parallel north. Korea was effectively subjugated into the protectorate of both Russia and Japan, each with the signings of the protectorate treaties with Russia on November 1, 1905 and with Japan on November 7, 1905."

Being a protectorate does not equal with being colonized. Yes, Korea in my ATL was divided "equally" by Russia and Japan, but technically Korea remained an independent nation (Joseon royal government was still retained albeit moved to Hamhung in northern zone as you can see Queen Min was still alive and she was a fervent pro-Russian during his lifetime in OTL). So, Korea kept its independence although became a client state of both Russia and Japan.

When Russia experienced a revolution in 1917, Korea succumbed into quasi-anarchy in the north while the Japanese kept tight control in the south. But, when Japan also experienced a revolution and civil war in my timeline, the Japanese republicans realized Korea was an important buffer state even for them. So, the Nationalists lent a support toward anti-monarchy elements in Korean society, such Syngman Rhee (he is a Pan-Asianist for short before became a pro-Western Republican politician early in his life), Yun Chi-ho (OTL supporter of Japanese imperialism as well as a closet republican who kept his hatred toward King Gojong and the royal family since 1890s) and Ahn Changho (political pragmatist in OTL and ATL, with strong anti-authoritarian tendency).

So, Korea in my ATL, with Japanese aids, became a strong industrial powerhouse and regional power second only to Japan for its importance as a "bridge" between China and Japan. They are strong and prosperous, but never surpassing Japan, just like Park Myung-soo to Yoo Jae-suk or Lee Soo-geun to Kang Ho-dong. Korea is like a "second-in-command", loyal client state for Japan albeit its strong and influential international standing.

Korean population reduced in number after Japan colonized the peninsula in OTL and many Koreans migrated to Manchuria, China proper, Soviet Far East, the United States, Hawaii or even Japan itself to seek a better life. In real life, there are least 5 million Koreans living overseas. Since Korea never properly colonized in ATL, at least, the immigration overseas could be slowed down so the population growth can be kept in my ATL. And, of course with a Korea that more stable economically and politically as well as more friendly with Japan, Japanese diaspora will be residing peacefully in the peninsula. My personal view is similar with NuclearVacuum that a large number of Japanese will living around Busan since it is closest with Japan geographically just like the OTL Chinese community in Incheon. That's why on my ATL Japanese language page, Japanese is recognized as an official minority language in Korea.

For the case of the Philippines, the Japanese are not staying in ATL Philippines, but in Moroland. They are mostly in Davao City and owning several influential businessess and plantations. You can read that in my Moroland page. And also, not only Japanese that settling in Davao, but the Koreans and Taiwanese too. And also, I already mentioned about a large number of Japanese community in Manila since the Kingdom of Tondo was a tributary state of both Japan and China in the Middle Ages.

FirstStooge (talk) 13:23, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

<p style="text-align: center;"> "Joreujima eolma gaji anha  bureuge haejulge Baby~"

<p style="text-align: center;"> - Momo, while sexily dancing on "Cheer Up" MV (wow~...I love her, she always gives me a sexy innocent vibe) 

No, it stayed as a united country but stood independently at the complete mercy of great powers like Japan, China and Russia. To give you an example regarding this matter, Sarawak was a protectorate of British Empire prior to 1946 with its own monarchy, the White Rajahs, and own government and never been an integral part of the Empire like Canada, Australia or India although depended a lot to the British in economic and defense affairs just like its neighbor to remain independence and avoid being invaded by the Dutch. Yes, Korea is an independent nation in ATL, but lived like a zombie, continued to be controlled by foreign interests and its domestic supporters here and there, sacrificed its national dignity for the sake of de jure independence from foreign control.

I suggest you to read this timeline by zeppelinair at AH.com (http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-tale-of-the-twelve-republics-a-tliaw-redux.362134/) as the answers for all of your questions. Zeppelinair always do a good job in writing althistory about Korea, although at some occasions I did not agree with his ideas on writings.

FirstStooge (talk) 15:29, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry for being bold, but your holms are simply like switching the events in Japan and Korea and hoping the very exact opposite things will happening on the history of two nations (Korea stronger than Japan, etc. etc. etc.). Writing an althistory can not be as simple as like that. As Uchronian writers, we must find expand our perspectives, study dilligently on our favorite subjects of history and keep our mind as open as possible, not simply being creative. :/

Re-imagining the history of one nation and implementing a same scenario to an other is not a simple thing. You can find the counterparts between Korea and Japan, either an event or a figure, but even a holm will be influenced and following the global events. You must doing research first regarding the situation in Korea in 19th century for the plausibilty of any such reform and you must find first is the culture, society, technology, ideology, mentality and capability of such nation will allowing them to be a powerful nation. :)

That is why I suggested you to read zeppelinair's TL at AH.com so you can understand more about writing about Korean althistory. If you still insists to put forward your holms to change the entirety of Korean history and unless you doing a study first by reading journals regarding the situation of Korea during that era, I can not giving you any feedback regarding your holms. ^_^"

FirstStooge (talk) 08:46, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Garuda
Thank you for the feedback. The phrase I'm trying to get across is best described in German, Freistaat Katagalugan; Freistaat is another German word for "Republic." I chose the word "Katagalugan" because I read it was one of the names used for the Philippines before European contact. —  T  I   M  (TSW • AH • MGW • <font color="#006400">Contribs ) 05:38, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Han re-sizing
There are problems with your POD. You must take note that all dynasties that existed OTL after the Hans never came into being in my planned version of China because the Hans have managed to hold on to their power to this day. So the outcome of a Korean attempt to invade Han could be very different. —  T  I   M  (TSW • AH • MGW • <font color="#006400">Contribs ) 04:45, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Game of Nations
Hi Candies. I'm just here to inform you that your turn on Game of Nations has commenced, and that you are now free to post your nation. Thanks. —  T  I   M  (TSW • AH • MGW • <font color="#006400">Contribs ) 12:26, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

RE: GoN
Hey Candies, I'm afraid Hebei and Beijing are all I can give to you. Sorry. —  T  I   M  (TSW • AH • MGW • <font color="#006400">Contribs ) 12:26, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome, what did I do to help? SkyGreen24 17:30, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Cherry, Plum, and Chrysanthemum
Sorry for a very late response. It is a Eid ul-Fitr season in my country, you know. But, I see you did find a good name for your timeline already XD. Well, just to straighten the information, Chrysanthemum is do represents Japan, but Plum is representing Korea (it was the royal symbol of Joseon Dynasty) and Cherry blossoms represents China. However for a specific information, all of three flowers are actually represents Japan alone for its significance in Japanese arts and culture.

FirstStooge (talk) 05:45, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

RE: PMIV Korea
Hi Candies, Seiga removed himself from Korea in PMIV, so Korea is open to take: KawaiiKame (talk) 04:05, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Philippines CPC
Then what's bansa mean? I don't know if that is true but I found the Tagalog language does not differentiate "nation", "country" and "people". Is not bayan actually means "city/town" in Tagalog? I do want to separate the terminology for three words in my timeline since if the Philippines was colonized by the Japanese, they will also took an example with how Japanese language differentiate that three terms: kokumin, kokka and jinmin. So, I creates separate terms for "nation" (bansa), "country" (bayan) and "people" (banwa). Banwa word itself was I adopted from Cebuano and Hiliyganon languages from the same sense as bayan. I did that because I want to make Pilipino in my timeline as a new language of its own which effectively used vocabulary of many local Philippine languages, not a mere extension of Tagalog. Too sad Filipino in real life seems only like Tagalog with many English borrowed words.

FirstStooge (talk) 01:18, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Czech'd
It was sensual, as expected, although the female lineage tracing is a bit redundant imo

' and women could not be divorced for failing to produce a male heir. '

I think this one is the only one that ought to be changed and I think it'd be best that the opposition forces your ruler to still allow divorcing for that reason, atleast for the time being.

SkyGreen24 12:52, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

To a friend
Candy,

No matter what you have said or done on your talk page, my fraternal love for you will never change. It still baffles me why you remove me as a friend on you list, contradicting the message you left. I can only assume your reference to me as a friend, as well as all the good wishes you sent, were superficial sarcasm. All that I did inspired by you was for naught. The help I offered for your professional timelines, the support I gave when you were down, the defense I gave when you were criticized, came to nothing. The chat rules I made to prevent people from bullying, the quality system of articles I helped Josh to make, the timelines I've worked on to be professional like yours, seems to mean nothing to you. If you are not going on chat anymore, then I will only be on chat later in the day, as the only reason I came on in the morning, was to see you, as the only light we had in this dark wiki.

If you ever have any regrets and come back on chat, I swear no one would hold it against you.

Nathan Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  13:23, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Doing what you love
Hello Candy,

Hopefully this won't start into a long thread of messages ;P. I just want to say that I am aware of all your complaints about the wiki, but that does not shake my determination to work on it. What is important above all else is doing what you love to do. I love writing timelines, and although the other timelines on the wiki may not have as much quality, what matters is that I enjoy my own content. As for regluations of the wiki, I will continue to crusade for rules and quality standards just as you have inspired me. Even if you were correct to say the wiki is hopeless, I will still keep fighting because, once again, its what I love to do. I also play map games here because it is what I love to do (and let's face it, you love it too ;) ).  With you working on conworlds wiki, I hope you love what you do there as well.

I have left a message for Centrist, asking if he would like to help give any pointers to us, regardless of the cynicism you say he has. Anything, no matter how hopeless, is always worth a try. I hope you take that to heart as well.

Sincerely,

Nathan Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  13:53, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Dirigist Party
So be it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:36, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Time to vote
As your party leader, it is my duty to inform you to vote in the August 19th Althistorian general elections. Let's make sure the Dirigist Party wins! Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:21, August 19, 2016 (UTC)

You are Joseon I assume? -Nova 20:20, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

pmiv
can fix it plz i fucked upBibleboyd316 (talk) 12:18, September 15, 2016 (UTC)