Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-10975360-20131208111308/@comment-4206034-20131209130933

Pretty much, anyone except Hitler and the outcome of the war would have been different. Viva, the fact remains that the Russians would not have ever let Moscow fall. Moscow would have become another Liningrad or Stalingrad. The Germans were not prepared for the ferocity and aggressiveness the Russians displayed - this much was pretty clear. The Russians would have kept fighting and would have gone down fighting - nothing could change that.

Logistics can only do so much. Without the invasion of Russia, the Panther and Tiger would have not been developed when they were - Germany were caught completely offguard by the fact that the Russians had a better tank in the form of the T-34. If the Germans had actually done what needed to be done with the tanks - a better tank but easy to maintain and construct - then the Germans would never have lost so many tanks - and subsequently killed more enemy tanks.

The best example of a tank which could be changed to give a more powerful gun was the Sherman. The Americans made 50,000 of them and out of these, 2,000 were given 86mm guns. This is what I was talking about with Germany - what they should have done rather than creating a complicated tank. If you can get Hitler killed in 1938 or 1939 and still have WWII go on, then things would be a lot different.

And Viva, true these nations sent troops to fight - but they were shit. They were more a liability - in on battle the Germans were forced to retreat due to the fact that the Romanians could not hold their lines. And if Hitler waits longer, Stalin gets slightly more time to prepare - although he might just have another purge and screw things up for him real bad.

For the Germans to win the war, there are a huge number of factors that need to be altered in the entireity. And Daxus, Britain would not have lost. Even if the convoys were destroyed and food became scarce, they would probably look to get more Indian troops into the fight - and push back the axis from North Africa. Britain just did not get the chance to prove its industrial might. Had the war gone on longer, and had the British managed to get their act together, we might have seen supporting attacks on Germany through the Caucasus as the British assisted the Russians.