User talk:CourageousLife



re: Battle for Earth
With any luck, by Thursday. Depends on how many people sign up. And yes, I will make a species page shortly. Also, welcome to map games! May I suggest Principia Modeni? CrimsonAssassin 01:20, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

shattered america
i would love to be a mod on your game. i will create it today. you and i will be co-creaotors.

and about your points idea, it just might work. DeanSims 14:03, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Could I help make it? I have experience with map games and I was thinking of making a new one anyway. It's a really good idea! Oh, and nice map. FP 14:29, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

can you upload the full size map for Shattered America please so we can play the game?

thanks,

DeanSims 16:09, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5
Um, did Matt decide that he is done with the nations? Cause I really want to join but don't know if he's starting it. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:01, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

IDK, just jumped right in. - CourageousLife 20:02, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Heh, me too, lol. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:02, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5
I need some advice for my map game. I was told you were an expert in the field of the US states and the Civil War so maybe you can help me. If the POD for the map game is that Abraham Lincoln dies and the Civil war lasts long enough to cause the USA to collapse, leaving a broken battered CSA to fall apart, what would things look like? What states would unify and all that? Thanks. MattiasWestby 20:42, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, no, I didn't say that. What I meant was that maybe you would know better than me. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:44, April 9, 2012 (UTC)\

My best guess - I don't think the Union would disband right away. You might be able to fudge it and say that california and oregon suceed, and maybe even the territories. That depends on how long the war was and how bad the government was getting. As for the south, I can almost garuntee that texas would suceed. The 4 northernmost states were reluctant to join the confederacy in the first place - North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Arkansas. You could get away with almost any combination of the four. South Carolina was itching to suceed from the US, so I could see them suceeding from the CS if it was really bad. The gulf states all have something in common, so they could either suceed or choose to stay in the CS if that was all that was left. Anything else? CourageousLife 20:52, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Do you remember the old map I deleted? We need that map, except that Nevada Territory has to become a state and everything else stays the same. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:24, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

HE: TTG
Don't forget to play Human Evolution: The Third Game! SPQR 18:23, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

BFER
If you don't play in Battle for Earth Revised, the mods reserve the right to remove you. SPQR 19:29, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thats okay, it was better the first time CourageousLife 19:32, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

PM
I see you like map games, you heard of Principia Moderni? Fancy joining its like the biggest game on the Wiki & judging from your recent actions with Dean you look like you got a good head on your shoulders, so the game would be welcome to have you. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:37, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

A word to the wise Courageous, Kenny is on a wiki break & hardly ever plays the game. The map maker is Collie, and new players aren't added to the map until they've played for a bit. Play a few turns as Isolaque and you'll be added to the map soon enough. Also things like this usually go on the game's talk page. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:01, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

No worries, feel free to ask me about anything else you need help with :) VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:39, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

re: SOA5
Thank you! That means alot. I am happy to be a mod for the SOA games btw. If you need any specific thing that needs doing, just let me know :) CrimsonAssassin 22:04, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

i helped you out a lot when you joined this wiki, and theres 3 open mod spots, as well as your the head mod and can delete the "bad" stuff I write, why cant I be a mod. DeanSims 21:19, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can we please use my map for SOA5? It's more accurate, as of now. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 22:08, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Could you please stop undoing the map? Your's is inaccurate. Thank you. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 22:44, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Right of Usage
Hello!

I was thinking of using the alien races from the Battle For Earth Map Game in my timeline on the Future Wiki. Can I have your permission to use the Caborr? I think that was your race. You will be credited.

Monster Pumpkin 19:44, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

The page is already up, it just doesn't have very much in it yet, lol. Future Wiki: Rivalry

Monster Pumpkin 19:51, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Humanity
Ohio is in war with you because we honor our allies commitments. Ohio has no real stake in that region as it is moving west for expansion not south. The Greater American Cooperative (CSA, American Union, and Ohio) will talk more about it as I am not really a fan of war this early in the game. But until we've finished conversing we will remain at war. Andr3w777 18:48, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Have you presented your proposal to the American Union? We are all in an alliance all have to agree. Andr3w777 22:52, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Did he agree? I will not make a move either way until you have a reply from him. Andr3w777 01:33, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Any messages regarding the GAC please message here under Discussion Greater American Cooperative (Humanity Awake! Map Game) Thanks Andr3w777 02:07, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

I would join it, but don't worry, we will get those Confederates out of Texas! Though, it may take some time, as they are closer to Texas that me and Cascadia. TacoCopper

I would like to join your "American League" between California, you, and me. However, I'd like for it to be named "Western American Union", due to the fact that all nations part of it are in the Western United States. Yee-Haw!Bfoxius 22:47, June 1, 2012 (UTC)Bfoxius

Thanks. Hopefully, we can push 'em out of your nation. TacoCopper

I must admit I am a little intrigued by your offer, but I will not do anything until a response from the AU comes through. I do not agree with this war but I must honor my alliance with the CSA, to betray him right now could set a dangerous precident and cause issues in the future. I apologize but the war must continue until the war is finished- whomever wins-, if you win, just remember that Ohio was an honorable nation that was true to its allies. If we win we will remember you as a brave nation that perished in a foolish war. Good Day. Andr3w777

If you want to try and convience them, thats fine with me. However, they seem to be commited to their alliance and might not be so inclined to join another one. However, that makes the game interesting, a cold war between the West Coast and East Coast. Also, sign you name with the signature button, as it makes it easier to go to your page. TacoCopper

Hmm, just thought of a potential problem. We have three nations on our side, against three nations on the other side. The war might end up in a stalemate. If it does, we will have to get other American allies, so hopefully Cuba will join our side. TacoCopper

Good point. And a stalemate would help us get more time to get more allies. I agree with expanding, but we should wait until this war is over though, as it might drain resources that are needed for the war effort. TacoCopper

Now! Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:08, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Just to remind you. I AM NOT invading Texas for land, the CSA is. Their interests are not mine nor the AU's. We are merely supporting him as is our duty. What he does if he conquers you is HIS deal not ours. Other than that I am almost wishing for a stalemate, so I can focus more on expanding west. I am more interested in growing my nation and hopefully uniting America under an alliance that way we can all turn to the rest of the world. Andr3w777 01:09, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Nice to say your already dividing up the world. Just please don't expand into the Illinous, Indiana, Iowa area. I already claim this region. As for the war, maybe we'll all get lucky and CSA forgets why there fighting or something. The last thing I need is a Cold War and people trying to force my nation into submission. Andr3w777 02:11, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

hEY, YOUR on Civfanatics.com! I just found your space mod, it looks great! DeanSims 17:05, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I'll check them out now. TacoCopper

I think you should have used the European nations of the 1700s, not today. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:40, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Greater North American Alliance
Sims is becoming a real problem he is building up his military WAY too fast, plus he insists that he has nukes(which he doesn't) He's making my people VERY nervous with his antics at the border. We may need to consider a pre-emptive strike against the CSA. Andr3w777 20:03, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well thank you! Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:29, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

agreed, can you see about Cuba, and ask Cali to help. I'll focus on Durango and Cascadia, already asked AU, jusy waiting for a responseAndr3w777 20:54, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Is Sims banned from Humanity? If so, what will happen to his former lands?Andr3w777 02:29, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Check out the update to our GNAA page. I created a member flag and added a map.Andr3w777 00:07, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Regimental Glory
I am inviting you to my new Regimental Glory Game! :D GRSGov 23:10, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

I'm inviting you to my first map game Operation Red Dawn!Andr3w777 02:32, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

I like it is much more organized.Andr3w777 18:07, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

I would play that game. TacoCopper

Tribal Sunset
I am inviting you to Sasafred12 and my new map game...Tribal Sunset! Bfoxius (Cascadia)



MAH TRIBAL GAMEZ HAVE BEGUN Sasafred12 21:46, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

MY NEW MAP GAME HAS BEGUN! Bfoxius 21:21, June 27, 2012 (UTC)BFOXIUS

TEvsCP
I would say AH. Problem: it's about to collapse under invasion soon.

Denmark maybe.

Canada as well.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 21:10, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Put your sig and don't forget to mention I said you could do it. Also, please check out my new TL, A World of Difference. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 21:24, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Unknown Landmass
What kind of mod? Doctor261  (Talk to Doctor261) 03:50, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Read the whole Unknown Landmass (Map Game) again. :) You will see me, you, Kogasa and Crimson there. There are all types of mods listed there. Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 18:01, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Basically, pick anything you want(and what you will do often) except God-Mode. ^.^ Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 18:30, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yes I am still interested. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:50, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I did this, so that people could navigate through countries easier, but I guess I'll remove it from main page... Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 03:59, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

It's your turn to update the map in Unknown Landmass  Doctor261  (Talk to me!) 18:56, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

VLR
'''Hey Courageous, you are invited to play my map game VLR. We need more players to get things going better. Russia is open so is Prussia and maybe France soon. There are other nations and feel free to add others too if you want!AP'''

Deletions
We delete the defunct map games that barely began because they take up space, are usually low quality, and are not really interesting to read (usually the defunct ones are just lists of rules and a couple of simple turns). That's been our policy for quite a while. LurkerLordB (Talk) 18:21, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

RTr
Game is starting tomorrrow Kunarian (talk) 17:28, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Does the USSR/ Warsaw Pact nations have a plan to combat the West? I mean other than supporting rebellions. East Germany would like to see a re-unification of Germany under Communist rule. How would one do this without the U.S nuking us? Andr3w777 (talk) 03:34, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

What do we do in Spread of Communism? I mean the west is beating us to the punch on all sides and is making it where our nations cannot compete globally. I understand East Germany is a satelite nation and a "puppet state" to use the Western term, but something needs to be done. As we cannot build nukes under various treaties, we would like permission to house nuclear arms to deter the West. Also NKorea looks like it is about to cause and invasion. We need China if we have any hope of pushing Communism.Andr3w777 (talk) 00:15, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

RTr and Piedmont
Sure. How do I explain it? Or? Enclavehunter (talk) 03:10, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Where's the Soviet Union man? Ethiopia needs your help in Spread of Communism. --"Truth fears no questions..." 21:40, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, yeah, not happening now. War's over, viva. You lost.

Though seriously, come back. Me and AP can't run this alone!

The Royal Guns (talk) 10:17, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5 RL
I was wondering if I could have California? Sorry to ask but I only saw you after I made my nation page as California. Bobalugee1940 (talk) 23:35, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Carpe Diem
Scandanavian Union controls all of Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Iceland.

Russia has basically peak USSR boundaries + Afghanistan and Manchuria.

No, Chechoslovakia exists. Part of Austro Hungary was used after WWI to create it, however Austro- Hungary survives.

SAR takes up all of SA except Brazil.

MesoAmerica, everything north Of the SAR and South of the US.

Gulf Union, UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, all those states.

The Royal Guns (talk) 06:35, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

re: States of America
Thanks, but I'm gonna sit this one out. Have fun in the game and good luck! CrimsonAssassin (talk) 14:16, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Carpe
Truly briliant. Nothing needs fixing. Thanks.

The Royal Guns (talk) 10:17, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well, lets wait till we have at least 10-15 people, then set one.

The Royal Guns (talk) 14:56, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vive
Hopefully, without the war even taking place. But since that probably will not happen, then it would be the northern states and the federal government, along with the Polynesian protectorates, against the larger-than-OTL south.

The only way I see the south winning is through foriegn support though.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:32, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Staked a claim for what?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:43, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well, no one has sided with the south, and I suggest that you don't either, because I plan on taking them down as soon as they rebel.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:47, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well, there are other nations that you could be. Have a look.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:51, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

PMII
Sorry there mate, I didn't see your post til just now. You won't screw up, trust me. The rules seem complicated but most of them are for the mods to worry about. Even if something happens we will just tell you. Only two people have "screwed up" and been banned and that was for sockpuppeting and swearing. Also the Mayan will be interesting. You will start with only the largest city-state and you can expand out from there. Scandinator (talk) 19:34, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

'''Hey Courageous. I noticed that you've been admiring my map game for a while. You're welcome to join, just choose any nation. If there is one in particular that is taken, just talk to me about it and we'll see.AP (talk) 01:03, August 6, 2012 (UTC)'''

A Great world:
he well you were one of the mods, of the unknown landmass map game so i want to know if you would like to join and play with the rest of us A Great World (Map Game), and i'm sorry about what happen with states of america Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:46, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

eh i have seven player in the game should i start it and start the mod tasks? Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:38, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

well specific task like mod-events, map editing and etc etc and i'm thinking about a weather algorythm for natural dissasters and maybe expansion algorythms for uncontrolled nations because even if they aren't controlled they will eventually grow in population size and thus occupy more land Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:47, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

well the weather algorythm is an idea to be fair atleast to not to make highly impossible enviromental or to hurt other nations out of nowhere, about other algorythms dont know for sure but i'll made them later, also if you want to see the complete map of the world i'm going to use for the game add me on Msn fabi_carsa@hotmail.com also help me thinking about the best places to make other cultures in the other continents Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:03, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

I just emailed you. CourageousLife (talk) 01:15, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

i know its good i also made other one like that about a month ago but it didn't like me that much and chat restricted me( fuuuuuuu) Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:23, August 11, 2012 (UTC) anything i should fix? or add

now all i want to do is add some archipielagos of islands in the western continents and some Between the ingame continent and the eastern continent Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:28, August 11, 2012 (UTC) and maybe some more lakes

hey do you want to join my map game new beginning ? you can take Roma Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:50, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

thats the Continental Axis, the enemies of the mufs which are spain venice and romana, its composed of Albania,Lyon,Aquitania etc etc etc they are three different nations Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:01, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

hey go to live chat

hey courageous please post in the A great world map and when you read this go to msn to see if im online to talk Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:59, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

BFE RELO
Just tellng you... BFE R is back on...

The Royal Guns (talk) 09:17, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

By the Way... Want an alliance?

The Royal Guns (talk) 14:14, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Lobositz Lamentable Loss
Sorry for the delay, but the game has now begun! RandomWriterGuy (talk) 05:44, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Carpe Diem Carpe D(i)e(m)stroy the Entente
So yeah, we can do it. Guns has it in his head that you and he will join together. It doesn't sound plausible to me.

Now, here are the weak spots in there alliance: So basically the only ones in their alliance that can really put up a fight are Scandinavia and the UK. And the UK had Ireland to take care of. You interested in funding a rebellion there?

And Mesoamerica is in the Moscow Pact. And Persia is not. So we have to try and get Siam and Egypt into this.

I think I can get Siam as it hates both the French and the British for taking land from it, and you can fairly easily get Egypt since it has the Otts over there and the Gulf down south.

And let's talk Coalition on the game talk.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 19:37, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

OK. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 19:59, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sure. See ya there. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:44, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

476 AD Reloaded
hey man i have an idea on restarting this game, but i'm not sure can we talk in the live chat, i want to have some ideas before posting the game Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:12, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

are you there, do you think is a good idea to redone it or what Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:24, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

im thinking about making it but you are right it would need alot of work, but give me more info about it, go to the live chat please Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:30, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

no problem i'll wait until tomorrow, Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

hey you there? Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:48, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Hey,Courageous have you think about making a Revisited version of Humanity,awake! ? also go to the Live chat

Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:39, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hey i have think about making a game based on the events after the roman empire fall called orbis terrarum based on principia moderni made in another althistory wiki do you think someone would play it? Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:25, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Blog Jokes
I feel the same way. Originally X, Fed, and I, were trying to lighten up the situation as everyone was busy hating on him. We were just trying to change the mood yet a lot of people took it the wrong way. Now I feel bad too. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:25, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Imperialism II
Game has begun. --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 20:02, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

I see.

But you see, Germany here is like Germany and Austria Hungary smashed together in WWI OTL. I can always add Hungary to the Allies, and maybe some of the neutral nations, but I need to totally rework the map.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:24, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Orbis Terrarum: Fall of rome
you should take teotihuacan, in mexico, that small green spot Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:39, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

also, in a great world there will be a simple thing for wars, at least until we get the 10 year turn there will be a 12 digit algorythm in which if four digits are major than 5 the war was one by one of the nations and if it was a random number from below it was the other, if the digits were varieting between it would be stale mate like in your case with creeta( for the turn im going to post right now) Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:48, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Allo there mate, the Alligator Hunta's got a faveh to ask ya. Could ya post this in Imperialism II?

Tsar Alexis I of the Tsardom of Russia announces that the Tsardom will be boycotting this game until the game is corrected. The Tsar is greatly upset that hundreds of years of Russian expansion are not on the map, and because of implausibility. A: Charles II would never in a million years be able to leave England without being killed. And B: If he did, he would  not ,  ever , go to France, his hated biggest super-mega-ulta-all time enemy. Come on? Does no one know about France and England? Tsarly regards, Alexei.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:47, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Your recent blog about the Russo-Japanese war
For starters, its just an idea having the Russo-Japanese war expand into a larger war, hence creating an early world war I. You can do your own timeline on the subject of this no problem, but just try to do it from a different angle.

Your also welcome to contribute to my timeline too, I plan doing some work on it in the coming days. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 00:31, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

hey courageous look im thinking on doing a new more likely version of The Greater Americas

the game would be the same but instead based on a pre-existent timeline in 728 ( 1336) during the a thousand years wars while in america somehow civilization arised in the Andes and the Central American domains what do you think Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:39, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Greater Americas Reloaded
Im not going to be here so if you want you can finish to organize the map game for me and add the names, the only thing is... i control the bluish nation in panama and colombia Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:45, September 12, 2012 (UTC) thanks in advance

can you help`me with the greater americas game i made Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:45, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

ok do what you think is best, i already like what you did to the map game also i think we should do the History Timeline for the America in the map game i'm going to start and you can continue it or add something you want to do Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:13, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

also i wanted a small christian nation ( made of Vikings that came from northern europe in 1000 and settled in the east coast yet they travelled to the south for climatic reasons aswell for stealling and viking stuff) in louisiana can we keep it? also post your map in the talk page of the game to see it please Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:25, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

I dont really know this, the point i didn't made any nations its because mainly i wanted to make a parallel to the Post Roman Europe, though the Christian Nation like you said should be secluded and we could add some tribes in the northern terrains of america and some tribes in southern Brazil Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:07, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

perfect then, the only reason i put most of the nations in the caribbean its because the aztecs are the equivalent for the roman empire the Mayans for the greeks and the Inca for the Sassanid or maybe chinese thus the major populated areas would be the ones of central america and i would like to make the Christian Kingdom a little bit southern maybe near new york Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:15, September 15, 2012 (UTC) also i'm going to make the Pre Game Timeline

also i',m thinking if we should keep that much european nations? aswell that why not making that some of the vikings come southern and have become the islam expansion over christendom of the america's timeline Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:22, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

what i meant is a parallel of the islam expansion being the islam the christianism and the christianism the aztec religion which spread through the entire northern states including the caribbean southamerica Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:28, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

something similar of what hapened in africa in the 7th century the mayans who are the byzantines like nation invaded florida loiusiana and part of georgia then the vikings came and took over and spread christendom while the rest of the nations continue aztec paganism like roman catholicism Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:47, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

yes it would work, but my major purpose is to make the pure christian nation from european descent in the north, and the europe issue is what is bothering me Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

the feeling that people is going to choose europe over the american nations despite american being a little more developed in the game and more powerful Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:28, September 16, 2012 (UTC) also the fact that i don't know for sure if any one is going to play it

the problem with europe+ america nation rule is that often people left the games without reason and the games die for that, also i don't think someone wants to play the game, though you that know much more important people in here could you help me with that meanwhile i write the pre history of this game, please Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:36, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

perfect, i hope i'm realistic as it can to atleast make it believable Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:47, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

hey courageous im making the timeline, currently i'm thinking about making the mayan nation as a Nazi style germany a nation that feels superior and invade others until is crushed by an allied army and destroyed in the 10th century also, scraw is right no european nations just some tribes like the greeks the latins and the Gauls maybe celts aswell Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:00, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

hey here's what i've done about the timeline until the 11th(5th) century from the Time line Timeline (Greater Americas Reloaded Map Game) it takes pretty much the major facts of my history from the aztec empire the history, and all of that, im going to make that in the early 12th century the aztecs grow until they extent through the entire know world and then collapse like rome leaving their mark in the culture in the zone Sine dei gloriem (talk) 05:31, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

hey what the the link it has the information of the first centuries of the timeline, ill aswell make the european timeline soon Timeline_(Greater_Americas_Reloaded_Map_Game) Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:31, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

*raises glass*
Thank you, good sir. I am glad you like it ^_^  CrimsonAssassin (talk) 02:30, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah
Yeah, I do feel that LG was kinda harsh. But that's just his general attitude. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 23:45, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Talking
Just a second? Lol, sure. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 02:34, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Bah, don't stress yourself. It's no biggie. You should have seen the Europe vs. Asia Cold War debates in PMI. Lx, Andrew, and me, screaming at Von and Imp all the time. And trust me, most of the arguments were erased due to the nature of them. If that game didn't end, I suspect we would have been banned. I actually quite agree with most of your arguments.

Anyways, as soon as this war is over, we'll all go back to being jolly good pals. We'll forget the whole thing and someone will stuff it into the archives of no return.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 02:58, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki
I've been thinking about this idea for a long time.

Basically, it would have four advantages:

A) Map Games would not be restricted to althistory.

B) The reputation of this wiki wouldn't be so downgraded by them a-holes on AH.com.

C) It would have the effect of less clutter on this wiki.

D) It could have rules specifically designed for Map Games, including rules about defunct ones, etc.

What do you think?

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:51, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

hey would you like to play this new map game of mine http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Arabian_Failure_(Map_Game)#Asia Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:57, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, well that's a given.

So far, I've got Scraw, Bauglir, Andr, Imp, and Lx with the plan. Von and Lurk I've contacted but they're not going to join unless it gets seriously popular. I've contacted Pita but I'm not sure of his answer. Ditto for Scan, anyone I'm missing?

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:15, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I contacted MP too, but he hasn't responded, thanks though.

The Royal Guns (talk) 19:21, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Arabian Failure map game
the game has begin so please begin posting Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:22, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Lobositz's lamentable loss
hey, would you like to help us continue the map game, we are in the first few years of the XIX century, and i think the best countries you could choose right now are, Pretty much the nation outside that ones are in crysis or already taken
 * 1) Portugal
 * 2) the Ottoman Empire
 * 3) Poland-Lithuania
 * 4) Sweden
 * 5) Denmark
 * 6) Neetherlands

examples : France and Britain are almost destroyed, Venice is trying to rebuild italy, and the austria is shattered and russia is in revolutions, if you are interested, join the game, also your old nation was taken by the USA Sine dei gloriem (talk) 20:48, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

New Map Game Ideas?
Hey, I've been looking for a map game to join after being offline for a while, but I can't find any I'm interested in. I've decided I'd like to make a new one. Got any ideas? I was thinking sort of just a restart of history type game, so maybe starting in say, 5000BC and just going through time. - FP 14:14, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

OK. Restart of history maybe, 7000BC? The POD could be that the Ice Age ended early or maybe even late? We need to make this different from other map games. We need more creativity, more contributions from the players. Players should make quite detailed nation histories before playing. TacoCopper had this idea a while back but he appears to be offline right now. You start with one city-state, and slowly you can conquer or unite with other states, until you become larger nations, and then become empires, then colonize, etc. We should also request that players detail events in their country each turn other than military movements and political events. They could include detailed discoveries, cultural events, famous people, and they should also make a page for these events. They should need to be commited to the game. If not, and they just post a sentence or two a game, we kick them. It would be intersting to see what they come up with.

Just letting you know. I may have gone mad with power.

FP 21:50, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Answers -

1) We (the head mods) will examine which civilization has contributed the most toward science, or maybe innovative characters in their nation.

2) They can develop cultures as they wish. But they will start with the already existing cultures.

3) Earth

4) 50 years until maybe 500BC, then 25 until 500AD, then 10 until 1500, then 1 maybe. It will take a while.

FP 22:35, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ok fair point. That sounds like a good idea. But one thing is that so much can happen in 100 years. Entire continents can be conquered. There will be too much people trying to take advantage of this and implausibility will rule. Any name ideas? - FP 22:57, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure. I'll find some ancient language to translate something like "The Beginning" and see how that sounds. - FP 23:10, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Initium Novum - A New Beginning in latin. Sound good? - FP 23:13, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, got to go - FP

Hey can i help with this map game endeavor? Just tell me what's up and i'd love to help.Andr3w777 (talk) 20:40, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, me too please. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:41, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Initium Novum
Idea. To save the hassle of early civilisation, we create the first 5000 or so years after the POD (whatever or whenever that may be). The early civs are already established, and players can either choose an existing civ or create one of their own (they will have to start out small). Good plan? - FP 20:24, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

No idea. You? - FP 19:59, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

I had an idea for a POD!

You could have the devlopment of agricultures in different positions than OTL. There were hundreds of places that COULD have had agriculture, that didn't until much later. For instance, a small one would be something like Indus valley civ becomes the Gangetic plain civ (which, by the way, if you go with the idea, I'd like to call.). A larger one would be on the North-West coast of Africa, near gibraltar.

Or you could have completely different environments, caused by differences in the Last Ice Age. So the Atacama desert would become a lush tropical forest, but the Huang He river valley (between the Huang He and the Yangtze) becomes a desert, or some barren hills. Movement of glaciers can't cause mountain ranges like the Alps or the Himalayas, but they sure as hell can cause pretty much EVERYTHING else.

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:17, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Umm... well, that kind of thing seems to be very ASB- what would be the reason??

Also, we're going to need a bigger (read: better) map.

Should be easy, just rotate a world one, but...? The Royal Guns (talk) 22:34, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

A POD doesn't describe this. This needs 'Act of God' type things. I think mine works better, though yours is an interesting idea. But that will be labeled ASB, and those kind of things, as showcase beautifully by A Great World, don't work well.? The Royal Guns (talk) 22:45, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but that could be explained by an increased period of sun flares, which seem to occur every 11 years. Where as yours, is a little harder to explain.

Still, I'm not in charge here.?

The Royal Guns (talk) 22:56, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Changes a lot, actually. Glaciers can change practically anything. The Alps could become meadows. Mesopotamia could become a desert. Glaciers can level mountains and raise up hills (mountains, unfortunately, are beyond they're creation skills).

About States, I think another problem is that the algorithm was bad, and that in 5 we didn;t put it into action much.']The Royal Guns (talk) 23:04, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

I guess.

I was thinking, about the rules/ algorithm, do you have anything you have already decided>?

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:36, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

... No, I meant, are we going to use some variation of the PMII algorithm, or something completely different?

The Royal Guns (talk) 23:50, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Maybe we should create a page?? The Royal Guns (talk) 00:00, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Explain me what are you talking about with Royal guns that uses an inverted earth map? please also, go to the live chat please, Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:42, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

oh, so can i help in your map game, please Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:09, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

States of America Reloaded
What happened??

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Since the PMII thing is slowly beginning to wear off (like, say, with Initium Novum), other map games will become more popular. Maybe we should reboot it? The Royal Guns (talk) 20:24, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Yeah. I think Scraw would be interested.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The only thing is... have you noticed a slow die-off on this wiki? Take 83DD. No article has graduated, to the best of my knowledge, since my Lesotho one in July.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">And, also, it seems as if all the other community TLs are dead. A2012 is just starting, and I don't know how far it will get. And since PMII started.... only this, AvAre, and LLL have gone on. AvAre is ok, somewhat shaky, LLL has gone crazy, willm probably die soon, and PMII, though ok on the surface, is looking shaky underneath.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">No one new has been added to the TSPTF since Crim, but some 3 people have left that. RWG is gone, Stewdio's gone, Ben's gone, MP is too (I think), Kunarian is gone, after Radioactive tides revised I haven't seen him...

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Something is wrong with the state of althistory.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 20:53, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Well, they're supposed to be here to protect us from Trolls and the like. But frankly... they seem too harsh and a couple of voices kinda rule it. All of the moderates have left or have given up arguing (In fact, LG appears to be the only Brass member who regularly edits, every single day). They're too harsh on people like Twisty and Rebel, two nice guys who got a little over excited and tried to cheat. And when they both repented, they were both labeled as liars.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">At the same time, there are now very, very few people who exclusively edit althistory, and not map games. This was part of my reason for wanting to move to a Map Games Wiki was this slow transition, but because the ENTIRE map game community is focused on PMII, and we can't move that....

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Maybe we should say something to the TSPTF. Before it's too late.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 20:09, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Right. But I think the best way to do this is to get another 83DD going. A community TL, with lots of Admins (and thus admin protection), as well as lots of users, and lots of tiny states. Problem is, I can't think of any such thing that wouldn't be ASB- disease, ASB- biased, or somesuch.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Alternatively, we could approach a group of them, on the TSPTF talkpage. Bring along a couple of other users.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Only problem with this is that I'm sure a number of them will raise the fact that the admins aren't here for that.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Maybe the best way would be a merger of the two above. We approach admins and users individually, set up a forum for the topic, and come up with a solution.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">And, unlike Dean, we are neither being rude, nor are we breaking Wiki rules, nor are we suggesting to tear down the establishment.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 20:11, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Well, I had six possible ideas. The first and second are both somewhat DD spinoffs- one in which the Cuban missile crisis goes nuclear, and one (much closer to DD) in which Andropov launches a LIMITED nuclear strike, rather than a full one, that does not hit china much.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Another idea is some sort of asteroid cluster, that hits the Earth, causing massive earthquakes and tsunamis, but as the asteroids are smallish, humanity is not wiped out.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Another idea is a Sundered Veil sort of thing, but the result is that everyone can use magic, though for a limited time. This happens around the middle of the Cold War, perhaps in 1971 or 1962, and immediately both sides strike out with massive amounts of magic. the resulting magical output closes the portal allowing magic to come into our world, but also destroys a lot of the Earth. This, frankly, is my favorite, especially if it was combined with the next one.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">My penultimate idea would be a Worldwar-esque alien invasion, the aliens, though advanced, are forced off Earth, though they damage much of it. Or maybe not. ASB, yes. Would still be fun to write.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">My final idea is a disease that all but wipes out the humanity. I dislike this, it will almost certainly be labeled ASB random, ASB biased, ASB disease, or all three. And I'm creeped out by those sort of things.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The first and a combination of the 4th and 5th are the best bets, is my thinking.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Your thoughts?

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 20:34, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Yeah, I agree, though it is a pity. It would be an amazing TL: Alien attack Earth, one of their devices opens up a portal to a land of magic, humans use magic to drive away aliens at great cost to both sides...

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Problem with strait of Gibraltar thing is that good community TLs need to have lots of very small states, other wise it doesn't work. What you're suggesting just gets us a sort of Caliphate.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Asteroids or disease, I guess.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Maybe we should open a forum for this, invite everyone we know and some others, and revive this wiki!!

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 00:19, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">I have it!

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">2 possible ways.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Way 1: the year is 1972. The height of the Cold War. The Soviet leaning India has just shat on the America leaning Pakistan (you hypocrites). The war in Vietnam isn't going well for America. Nixon has got into trouble.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">And in the midst of all this, there is an accidental Spanish Flu outbreak, somehow, in NY. This spreads through the world like wildfire. With easier ways of getting around, the deadly plague kills almost 85 million in the first year.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Naturally, the Americans blame the Soviets, and the Soviets blame the Americans, and in the middle of shouts the next year, the death toll climbs to a catastrophic 125 million. with the disease on track to kill half a billion, the first nukes are launched. Nuclear weapions had been used to attempt to wipe out plague centers, but now they are used in the Cold war.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The good news; the plague, mostly focused in large cities, dies out.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The bad news; this is because there's no one left to infect.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Way 2: A large group of asteroids, each roughly the size of the one causing the Tunguska event, wanders into Earth in 1914. Many of them hit oceans and unoccupied lands, but the sheer number mean that the results are devastating. North America is the hardest hit, in terms of Asteroid numbers, but for density it is Europe, in which mainland europe was almost destroyed. New York is hit, along with several other major population centers. England is not hit, though Scotland is hit twice and Ireland 4 times.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 20:45, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Goliath? The Arthur C. Clarke one?

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">I love his writing. Maybe Asimov does better novels, but in terms of short stories, nothing beats C. Clarke!

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">'Problem with having it in the early 1900s: it DID happen in the early 1900s. The thing about the Spanish flu is, it can only last around a year and a half or so, then the population gets used it it and it dies out. May cause a substantial bit of distress, but frankly, nuclear weapons need to be involved.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">To the Forum! Can you make it? I may not be able to get on over the next few days.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 13:59, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">OHH. Right, ok. The Leviathan trilogy one. Liked the first two, but that one was a bit convoluted.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Now that I come to think of it, the C. Clarke story is called the Hammer of God. But the main characters are on a ship called Goliath.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">ANYWAY...

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Time zone : *attempts to work it out* *fails* resorts to checking google*: also -5.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Forum: Well, actually, scratch that. Turns out I am online. You choose when. The Royal Guns (talk) 17:44, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Kk, I'll put it up now then. The Royal Guns (talk) 19:27, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Lx. I have nothing in the Americas. Nor does Poland. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:03, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Unfortunately, I know nothing about it. :P

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Forum is up. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:47, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Humanity awake revised
i dont know im just thinking you should make it, since i have a map, and  interesting ideas about a game like it, or a new version of it, whaat do you think ? Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:26, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Medieval World
It begins today!

Cosman246 (talk) 20:36, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

hey dude, i have an idea of a game that would be called Cum Cadent Europeae, similar to Greater americas but more, centered in the destruction or fall of europe (Name in latin) and arisal of the Mexican tribes at america as second POD, what do you think, also i used super giant river-ed map

Cum Cadent Europeae
hey dude, i have an idea of a game that



would be called Cum Cadent Europeae, similar to Greater americas but more, centered in the destruction or fall of europe (Name in latin) and arisal of the Mexican tribes at america as second POD, what do you think, also i used super giant river-ed map Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:07, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: PMII expansion
I was not aware of that...I presumed that the borders for my southern colony was the rio grande(as it is a natural formation that actualy is a border today). In the north, I dont believe I am big enough to extend into anyone's territory...if I do I guess its the mapmaker's fault, and if it is in rio grande, forgive me for my geographic ignorance.-Lx (leave me a message) 00:11, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Radioactive Tide Reloaded
You're in as mapmaker, Bfoxius (talk)

Sorry about you guessing on where the nations were on the map, I abandoned the game for a while, seeing that only you have joined. Now, I THINK that I can get this map game off the ground, with two other people. Thanks for sticking with the mapmaking. I modified the rules a bit on the game, so the rules are not just an (almost) direct copy of the Radioactive Tide Revised ones. I also have made myself a mod, seeing how you and Sine are the only ones (and no offense to Sine, but he is from a Spanish speaking area, and some people may not understand his mod posts, so I will make him a mod if he proves he can stick to the game, and be plausable). I will try to get people to join, and if I leave the map game for more than 5 days, unless I specify what I am doing, you can be the head mod. Thanks, Bfoxius (talk)

I like that idea, especially the tier one, though I think we would need a decent amount of techs to keep things interesting, and to prevent people from investing completely in research, and getting nukes and spaceships early. Do you think we should use tiers, or a more advanced, Civilization-esque tech tree? Bfoxius (talk)

Napoleonic Europe remake
You can Help.The old baby (talk) 20:59, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

The game has begun!

Sylvania
Sylvania is the piece of Pennsylvania and New Jersey that's closest to New York City. Yank 04:49, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

in Radioactive tide you forgot to add my expansion into the southwest an the joining state of falcon Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:34, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

can atleast be remarked as vassal/puppet of the federation 01:44, January 1, 2013 (UTC)Sine dei gloriem (talk)

i annexed but its better if they are more a nominal member of the Federation rather than an actual member, in the map its ourtimeline venezuelan state of falcon and Eastern Zulia Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:50, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

also go to the live Chatroom Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:51, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

CCE
Current Map



RTR
Lol, I don't exactly understand how the system works. I would help if I did. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 23:08, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:18, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

go to the chatroom Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:26, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there. We need a few more members for After the Storm (Map Game) so just wondering if you have enough time to participate - thanks. Pavillion (talk) 22:44, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

go to the chatroom Sine dei gloriem (talk) 21:22, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

in fact they are seven, Neu antwerp who has 3 capitaincies in the one in cuba one in Puerto rico and the other one in Hispaniola and cuba and puerto rico were given to me by milan aswell as their african one, then brazilea which has one capitaincy, then <span id="cke_bm_46S" style="display: none;">  antilia<span id="cke_bm_46E" style="display: none;">  in texas, then argentium, then the african colonies which are <span id="cke_bm_47E" style="display: none;">  one per se so they are five and two of them were ceded

States of America 5 Reloaded
Hey I'm trying to get the game back up again so join if youre interested

CommanderOfTheFourthReich 01:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

RTR
I'll have to disagree with you on this. In this situation the game shouldn't have to slow down. The players have to speed up.--Yank 17:56, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Sine says we can buy his Caribbean colonies. How about you take the ones he's giving (Cuba and Hispaniola) and then, maybe I can buy Cuba from you in the future? It's part of my greater game plan. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:21, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

He only knows that you want his colonies.

V is for Vengeance...

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:31, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

We invade? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:52, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

You'll be invading Burgundian Panama(If this war actually happens we don't know if their war with the Incas will be retconned).AP (talk) 01:47, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Scandinavia and Venice were supposed to invade the Incans as per our age-old plan. Then, out  of the blue, the biggest metagamer known to Althistory(Sine) invades the Incans. We don't know if it will be retconned(I ruled against it but we'll see) or if it will continue. If it's the latter, then we'll all invade Burgundy and rip them to shreds.AP (talk) 01:52, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hi might wanna you join in my Orbis terrarum or this Map game on the Map game

No americas map game

Orbis terrarum has a Mayan Strong state and other weak mayan states

Hi might wanna you join in my Orbis terrarum or this Map game on the Map game

No americas map game

Orbis terrarum has a Mayan Strong state and other weak mayan states [[User:Sine dei gloriem|Sine dei gloriem] (talk) 00:49, January 15, 2013 (UTC)]

The Ottoman Empire offers modern weaponry and 15,000 soldiers to help stop your rebellions and restore order to your lands a 15 year alliance in return for Cuba. It is a better deal than that you offered to Sweden/Scandanavia, and your people on Cuba will be granted free passage to and from there homeland and citizenship. Please accept. (DeanSims: Talk) 02:55, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

I wrote in my support for you in the algorithm already.AP (talk) 22:30, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
I think the mods might say that no one has recognize it, as everyone ignored the first one.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:47, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

re:PM II
I'm all for negotiations. What do you have in mind? CrimsonAssassin (talk) 23:53, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I've had an alliance with them for quite some time. It would be dishonorable to betray them, not to mention it would ruin our reputation with neighboring nations, one we've worked to improve for some time as well. I will, however, offer you some trade, including silk and goods grown/produced only in China. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 00:04, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Deal. <span style="-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFFFFF 50%,#FFFFFF 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFD700 50%,#000000 50%));"><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px;-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#1C39BB 45%,#120A8F 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#CCCCFF 45%,#000000 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px">               <span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:5px;padding-top:5px;-webkit-border-radius: 36px 36px;-moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px;-webkit-box-shadow: 2px 2px 6px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#E5E4E2 45%, #282828 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(black,#000000 45%, #282828 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px;"> <font color="#000000" face="Harrington" title="Profile"> ♒  <span style="background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, right top, left top, from(#000000), to(#FFFFFF)); -webkit-border-radius: 36px 12px; -moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 5px 5px #000000; border:2px double #E5E4E2 border-radius:5px; border-bottom-right-radius:100px 90px; border-top-right-radius:100px 90px; color:#FFFFFF"> <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier">"Fear the power   <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier" title="Bvlog"> of the Dark Side of the Force."  00:05, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Meh.

<span style="-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFFFFF 50%,#FFFFFF 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFD700 50%,#000000 50%));"><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px;-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#1C39BB 45%,#120A8F 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#CCCCFF 45%,#000000 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px">               <span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:5px;padding-top:5px;-webkit-border-radius: 36px 36px;-moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px;-webkit-box-shadow: 2px 2px 6px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#E5E4E2 45%, #282828 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(black,#000000 45%, #282828 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px;"> <font color="#000000" face="Harrington" title="Profile"> ♒  <span style="background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, right top, left top, from(#000000), to(#FFFFFF)); -webkit-border-radius: 36px 12px; -moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 5px 5px #000000; border:2px double #E5E4E2 border-radius:5px; border-bottom-right-radius:100px 90px; border-top-right-radius:100px 90px; color:#FFFFFF"> <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier">"Fear the power   <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier" title="Bvlog"> of the Dark Side of the Force."  00:10, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">MOOHAHAHA! THE EVIL, DESTRUCTIVE CENTRI REPUBLIC THAT DID NOT EXIST IN THE LAST GAME HAS (TECHNICALLY NOT) RETURNED! And we offer your nation friendship, in TNT.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Technically not because since it wasn't evil or destructive in the last game.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Probably won't be in this game either.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">But it sounds good.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">So....

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Yes or no?

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">It might be evil and destructive.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">It might not.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">You never know.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">I wouldn't take that risk.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 00:58, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Oh.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Hmm.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Apparently the threats of evilness and destruction don't work.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Doubted they would, but it was worth a shot.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">=D

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">It won't.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">The Royal Guns (talk) 01:01, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

You count the amount of pixels in the colony, and then multiply the amount of pixels by 50 to work out how big it is in sq km. You can either manually count the amount of pixels or use a pixel counting tool. I tend to use the "magic wand tool" on Paintshop pro to select the nation/colony I want to count and then cut that away and create it as a new, separate image. Then just see how many pixels make up the image of just the nation/colony. There are other ways of course, but that is just how I do it. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 01:29, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

An alliance seems appropriate. I really need to talk to Scraw about these pesky sigs! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:26, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Conference PM II
So, how will the official border look like? What areas are you planning to expand into?

I planned on taking California (well not the areas you already have and not the areas your going to expand in), that state above that, and parts of the two states that border California and the state above it. Of course not including the areas you expanded/going to expand in. -Kogasa  2013年2月12日 20:57:12 (JST)

No objections. I accept the proposal. -Kogasa  2013年2月13日 09:19:56 (JST)

PMII Plan
Hey, CL, just a heads-up. Not supporting the Germans in the war against Burgundy will make it hard for our plan to follow through entirely.

<span style="-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFFFFF 50%,#FFFFFF 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFD700 50%,#000000 50%));"><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px;-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#1C39BB 45%,#120A8F 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#CCCCFF 45%,#000000 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px">               <span style="background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, right top, left top, from(#000000), to(#FFFFFF)); -webkit-border-radius: 36px 12px; -moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 5px 5px #000000; border:2px double #E5E4E2 border-radius:5px; border-bottom-right-radius:100px 90px; border-top-right-radius:100px 90px; color:#FFFFFF"> <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier">"Fear the power   <font color="#FF033E" face="Courier" title="Bvlog"> of the Dark Side of the Force."  17:45, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

I expanded into the area when the Southern Mayan States revolted. Also I've had a settlement in Southern Nicaragua for over 100 years. And I even expanded it before you took the area. Then it suddenly disappeared off the map and now the only reason it does not show on the maps is because you keep removing it... Anyways, the only reason I am so fixtated on this area is so that Venice can build the Nicaragua Canal. It is a much easier area to build the Pacific-Atlantic Canal and would be more effcient than the Panama canal. Only reason it was not built was because the Nicaragua government made postcards depicting Nicaragua as the land of volcanoes. Scandinator (talk) 03:25, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Maya.
Hi. I noticed that you are playing as the Mayans is PMII (A game I follow, but do not play). If you wish for any aid with aspects of Maya culture, language or names (yes I relaise you are modernising) then feel free to ask. I specilise in the Maya peoples, particualy politics. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk)

Taco!
Yeah, I'm back! I've noticed a lot of new people have joined the wiki, and there is a ton of new map games. Might take a while to get caught up on everything.

Thanks for the warm welcome! TacoCopper (talk) 23:27, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. I also saw that some of the older users have left as well, but hopefully they'll be back soon. I want to join PM II, but first I gotta learn the rules of it. TacoCopper (talk) 23:42, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

AoG
I just noticed that updates to personal talkpages do not give notices to the other parties involved.

Anyway, all help would be appreciated. Could you start by helping flesh it out?

Canuck2012 (talk) 23:06, March 10, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Are you still interested?

Canuck2012 (talk) 20:50, March 23, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

re:PMII
I haven't been following up on the Mayans too much, so I don't know anything specific regarding how you're being implausible. However, I can tell you what really makes the mods happy when a country is acting up is when something bad happens to the country. Launch a civil war or something. Throw things in your country around. Knock it on its ass. Even restart the government under a new system or dynasty. The Joker pic sums my suggestions up.

Take China for example. The only reason they're letting me get away with all this vassalization and rapid expansion is because China's going to collapse after this. The dynasty's gotta change soon. So, if I were you, start your country over again with a new government system and everything. During this new government, have some elements that still benefit your country and make sure to keep up with things that will put your country in its place, such as bad rulers or ineffective/corrupt politicians.

I hope this helps. Contact me on my talk page if you need anything else. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 22:47, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Stop expanding so much and maybe have some of your nations break away. <font color="#000000">VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 22:55, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

That's what I was going to suggest(the expansion). Think about it. If you continue to expand north to have the same territory as OTL Mexico before the Mexican-American war then you are going to run into problems with the colonial powers. Stop expanding and you won't invoke the fury of Russia, which will most likely war with you if you try to expand into Texas. From an unbiased perspective, I would go to war with Manchuria. Since they are so colonially-driven(in-game talk for "all they do is expand their colonies"), they don't expand their military. Doing that would give you control of most of Mexico post Mexi-American War. This is just a suggestion though, since I personally would not condone this war since China would probably intervene. Other than that I think you're fine. Oh and I was thinking of invading Miskito to gain rich territory there. If you agree to let me take it over, I'll support you in another war( say you invade Oaxaca or something). Let me know.AP (talk) 05:09, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

LOL, which talk page?

18:22, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

I have an alliance with them, actually. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 00:35, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Courageuos, you could expand faster. If Apache agrees, then get him to expand his borders by 10000km, and expand your borders by 10000km too. Move your borders toward each other and botb your nations will expand quicker. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:13, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Its the maximum. :P  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:07, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Its a rule, but I'm not sure if it's officially stated. Just to tell you though. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:11, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:14, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Night of the Living Alternate History
I invite you to participate in the Night of the Living Alternate History. There are many nations still available, and we should be starting soon. Mscoree (talk) 17:26, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Miskito
I've put it off since i've had two wars pretty close together... I'm interested just not that much. If you want, you can invade it.AP (talk) 03:50, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Map game idea.
I'm back, let's go! What was your idea? 21:45, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. I'd give you my email adress but I can't access it currently (lost my password), and the account where the password was sent is deluged with facebook notifications. While I trawl through that...

It;s fine, though, I get the general gist.

Funny, actually, but I was thinking of an idea to respark Initium Novum: Bascially, we cross the BFE idea (make-your-own-nation) with the practicality of PM. Unlike in BFE, which constantly dies because everyone is scared to start a war that could wipe us all out, here no such thing exists. We will first make 30-40 NPCs, mostly tiny little nations, with a few big ones. Then everyone else chooses...

~Guns

I'm not sure these ideas mix.

That said, let's start with yours, since your idea is fully prepped.

Hmm.

Well, seeing that FP was the maker of the Initium Novum idea, I was going to go to him. However it appears that he has gone off wiki again... so, I'm thinking we should just make the page?

What are your thoughts on how we should start?

Well, I'll let you do that then. :D

23:15, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Well, first let's figure out who we want as mods- we should have at least 4, not counting us. Scraw, Lurker, for sure. Von? Imp?

Then lets get the rules and map all sorted.

Then we can spread the word.

I have heard whispers from the winds of a Dawn of Man Map Game. I am interested in the idea. Scandinator (talk) 16:15, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Well, not quite. All the nations are fully developed. The nations aren't just tribes unifying.

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Umm, Cour? Need your help making Initium Novum. I can't do this without you.

Well, I have Imp and Scraw signed on, and an IN page made. who else should we get?

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Lurker too?

You contact them, I'll start adding to the page, make a rules an mod page. Territory page too? That would make it easiest; You put 3-4 lines about your nation, their size, government, vassals, population. If you don;t make a page, you can't expand or fight a war (basically you'll be treated like an NPC).

<span style="-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(#000000 50%,#000000 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(#000000 50%,#000000 50%));"><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px;-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#000000 45%,#000000 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#CCCCFF 45%,#FF0000 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px">           <span style="background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, right top, left top, from(#ffffff), to(#0000ff)); -webkit-border-radius: 36px 12px; -moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 5px 5px #ff0000; border:2px double #E5E4E2 border-radius:5px; border-bottom-right-radius:100px 90px; border-top-right-radius:100px 90px; color:#FFFFFF"> <font color="#FFffff" face="Arial">"Very funny, Scotty.   <font color="#000000" face="Arial" title="Bvlog">Now beam down my clothes."  23:02, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

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Re: PM II
I am here about your propasition. Grantzu (talk) 19:10, April 19, 2013 (UTC)Grantzu

I would like to accept the vassalage. I hace some question thou, like what can I post as a vassal and do I have to change anything at all? The answers will not sway me to say no I already agreeded.Grantzu (talk) 21:00, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

No problemGrantzu (talk) 19:54, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

So how is the vassalivation going to go. I can't just say out of the blue the Mayan vassalized me I need you to start something.Grantzu (talk) 20:47, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

I saw it and responded to it with a yes.Grantzu (talk) 23:53, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Lets do this before 1700 I set the stage already a good time zone would be 1694-1696Grantzu (talk) 23:29, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Its been good. Computar is working properly again. Where is the industrialization chart?Grantzu (talk) 00:23, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Trading Company (PMII)
Hello, i see you are interested in joining the KTC, and i would like to discuss this. Have you read the membership criteria on the KTC page, and if so do you agree to abide by it? What would you like to offer in return for membership, and what do you hope to get out of being a member? Hope to hear from you soon. Hailstormer (talk) 15:54, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Now all we have to think about is a way to make contact in game. Any suggestions? Hailstormer (talk) 21:51, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well i have sent a KTC fleet to make contact so they should be with you by next turn. By the way i'm going to need the Mayan flag for the KTC page. So could you post a link to my talk page please. Thanks in advance. Hailstormer (talk) 12:14, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Added the offer this turn, accept when ready. Hailstormer (talk) 20:08, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Rome offers the Maya an allaince and trade deal in order to secure relations. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 20:52, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

oh no i dont expect you to aid in any of my wars over in the old world, id aid you if any nations attacked you or your allies, as your a pretty strong american power. we send our latest technology as a gift. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 21:03, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

great :) Roman warships are now docking in your ports giving you the tech and some troops are being stationed there in case you ever need them, theyl be placed under Mayan command. like 500 troops. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 21:51, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

KTC Trade Council
The 1695 Trade Council meeting has begun (KTC Talk Page). Please add the opinions of your nation to the discussion. Hailstormer (talk) 13:54, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Can you come on chat when you get online please? Hailstormer (talk) 19:05, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Chat? Hailstormer (talk) 19:04, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Chat? Hailstormer (talk) 19:02, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

We need to talk DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:22, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

hey Life, would you join me on chat please?Cookiedamage (talk) 23:49, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Access to the Sea?
Can you make that offer again, i just got back on the wiki and cant seem to find itAndr3w777 (talk) 00:25, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

never mid i read the post wrong, my apologiesAndr3w777 (talk) 00:37, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Initium Novum
Hello. I was going to be a player in the Initium Novum (Map Game), but when it was evidently losing steam I got permission from Gunsnadglory to become the new head mod for that game. I do not want to see the game disappear, so I was hoping you will stay aboard as a mod. You can see here for what I have started on the rules, and here to see the mod discussion. My goal is to get all the mods who had signed up to join again. That wil give us 5 mods in total, and I'll try to recruit one more person, which is equivalent to the 6 regions and 6 religions of this game.

Please sign up on the talk page, by creating your own nation, and please chose a continent that is not currently picked by any other mod. Thanks, and please stay on board with me! Reximus55 (talk) 18:18, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

You are our N. America Mod. I have invited all of the original mods to rejoin the team. There will be (if all goes as planned) me, you, Imp, Scraw, Lx, and Daxus (who I chose). We will each control a region and a religion. Reximus55 (talk) 21:28, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

PMII ASB
Mayans is even more ASB Inferal (talk) 21:14, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

The Mayans were a cluster of city-states, it would be like pre-Philip II Greece conquering Persia. In New Zealand/Australia the indegenous, especially in New Zealand, were very warlike and would likely never work together, let alone colonize the Soloman Islands as they did not long ago. Wales conquering England is also ASB as the King of England is also the Prince of Wales. Venice taking over Rome+? That is just ridiculouse. The fact that the Mayans still exist is enough that this should be considered ASB Inferal (talk) 21:36, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth: Prime
Can I use your nation from the Battle for Earth game in the new Battle for Earth: Prime timeline? Specifically I was thinking of the Caborr nations.

Thanks,

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 14:26, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Every little bit counts.

21:39, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, certainly. I was just wondering if we could change one thing regarding the lore. Since the timeline and game is more focused on the larger nations, I was thinking that the Caborr could be an associate state of the Dravimosian Empire, where the Caborr would still be independent, but would be closely aligned with the Empire, since we did have that alliance the first game. If that would be fine, let me know.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:36, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I really don't have anything regarding the Caborr in the lore, so you can do whatever you want with it.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:40, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Nice work on the Caborr article. If you want to change it to the Ahlose Alliance, that would be fine.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 22:17, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Good topic. :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:33, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Warning
Cour, I realize that you just want to get the word out, but you simply cannot spam the users like that. Don't do it again. Lordganon (talk) 08:21, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

hey, ive got a map game i think you might like, id like you to be a mod on it

States of America)

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:30, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

My Timeline
Hey, I was wondering if you're still up for doing maps? I need one for 975 CE for my new timeline, In Company With Wolves. Not OTL, mind.

Canuck2012 (talk) 23:50, July 21, 2013 (UTC)Canuck2012

Infr.
Yes, I should think so.

19:56, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Romae Delenda Est Begins
The first turn has started for Romae Delenda Est, LET THE GAMES BEGIN! Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 15:16, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

I am away for the next week, so please don't invade or attack my nation. I will message you when I am back. BTW, Greg is going to copy paste my turn, so Teotihuacan will be posting, but that doesn't mean I am there. Thanks in advance for your cooperation Mafia (talk) 23:04, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Um, I did save the current version of the map to edit it. I alway use the current map, not one from the last five years. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:17, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Gotcha. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:03, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

The Congress of Montreal has begun to discuss the division of Antillia and avoid future conflicts, please attend as your participation in this matter is vital.

DS|Im Coocoo for Cocoa Puffs!! 17:15, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hispaniola
What's the Mayan name for it in PMII?

18:51, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks.

18:59, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

And there was light!
Join if you already haven't. And mod. We need plausible mods. We have 17 users and I want to get at least 20-25!

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 16:11, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

yeah sure whats up? Sorry been busy on another project and since my maps are walys reverted i kinda just got pissed and gve up for a lil bit. What you wanna ask? DS|Im Coocoo for Cocoa Puffs!! 17:10, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

it was a peaceful seperation. I got all of Russian America DS|Im Coocoo for Cocoa Puffs!! 17:00, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Please join this?

thanks,

Battle for Earth
Hello,

You signed on as France in the Battle for Earth Strikes Back! Map game. As you may be aware, the game never started due to multiple circumstances. In order to meet everyone's needs, the game was delayed until September. I am putting the finishing touches on the page and the last thing to do is create the map for Earth. To do so, I need to know who's active and who isn't. If you are active, please notify me by Wednesday, September 11 or your nation will be opened up for a new player. Thank you for your patience. CrimsonAssassin- "I have special eyes" 20:00, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Apache Vassel
I do not want to be realesead yet I was going to hold back until the later 1800's let things boil a little more so it makes more sense.Grantzu (talk) 00:05, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Corageous :D I was wondering if you could help me against the French? You can get some of their colony in Atlantia if you win. :D Thanks Airlinesguy (talk) 02:22, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth stuff
Hey, can you look at the Caborr state part of this page. The rest should be self-explainatory.

Thanks,

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 18:34, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Something that you said now confuses me. You said that the Caborr state was only one of the states on its homeworld. Is the Ahlose Alliance the others?

Just some clarification. Thanks for adding.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:01, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

So is the current canon state of things like this?

The Caborr State, client state of the Dravimosian Empire

Other Caborr states, members of the Ahlose Alliance with the other two species you mentioned.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 19:12, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry that I put you in such a predicament. If you want, I can help you write the lore for this. I have an idea in mind on how that could happen.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:58, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking that the Caborr, unlike other species, pushed into space without one central government. When the states warred with each other, the largest, which is now the Caborr State, asked for the aid of the Dravimosian Empire, which accepted in return for Caborr subservience, since the Emperor at the time was a aggressive nationalist. When it seemed clear that the Empire would intervene to unite the Caborr states under its banner, the other states, valuing their independence, united and sought aid from the nearest multi-species federation, which was the Ahlose Alliance. The political situation at the time prevented the Empire from declaring war. Relations have warmed since then, but the idea of a unified Caborr is still dreamed of.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:43, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Could you perhaps help me Take Cyprus down, if we win you can get his holding in texas. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 01:25, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hay
Hay. I is be back! :) FP 19:39, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry - crazy weekend offline for me. Just now tuning back in to PMII. If you're referring to the idea discussed with Imp and Viva, we're looking at launching a militant religious sect in the Southern part of South America just to shift some regional focus (It's not going to become official religion anywhere but it will serve as a nice fly in the ointment). If you're referring to the sutff going on in-timeline, Icarus is harmless, but he's a bit nationalistic and may overreach. Commandante Lemming (talk) 19:11, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Not really sure what you're talking about then. I dont have a plan to start or participate in any map games other than PMII, and then PM3 when it gets going. Simply don't have time to play more than one at a time. If you want to talk PMII future or PM3 I'm all ears, but those are the only two I plan on playing. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:31, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

SOA5
Commander's back.

And he's started a new SOA5. Thought you should know.

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/States_of_America_5_Revived_(Map_Game)

Warrior Games
My idea was that each country invited would send a competitor for each event. The winners of the events will be chosen by a vote. The nation with the most victories hosts the games next year. Host gets 2 votes. You can not vote for yourself. The games would be jousting, swordfighting, marksmanship and an obstacle course. So what do you think?Grantzu (talk) 20:38, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

The post is up for the games name your competitors on my talk page and we vote for the winner in 1836.Grantzu (talk) 21:30, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Can you go to my talk page and vote for who you want to win please we need your votes.Grantzu (talk) 21:33, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

A can agree to it.Grantzu (talk) 23:34, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Western Hemisphere
Hey Courageous,

I've been looking at some maps of your new re-organization and it got me thinking about the stae of the Western Hemisphere in PMII and that we haven't really had a lot of chances to work together. Thought it might be useful to see what your future plans are for Antillia and whether you could use any support from an Atlantian ally - it doesn't really make sense that we don't have tighter relations and interaction seeing as we're the two largest non European powers in the Americas. If you'd like, I'd be very interested in doing some royal marriages between the Juun family and my royal house to try and get some Native American blood back into my own monarchy, and maybe we could do some industrial exchanges rather than just me taking everything from Imp's territories as I industrialize.

Also wanted to see if you were at all interested in having a stake in the Apostolic Church as it could probably use at least one more voting member. I'm not interested in converting your entire empire, but that new vassal of Lakin would be a perfect candidate seeing as they are already Kappelist and likely have a lot of Apache Apostolic influence given their location. I want as many stakeholders in that religion as we can get, and you would be a solid player to have control of it every once in a while even if your main nation isn't that faith. So let me know if that interests you.

Thanks

Commandante Lemming (talk) 22:10, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

LOL That's what I get for not reading everything you write in detail. I do think that could work as I've established that my royals are pretty liberal minded and would be willing to take that sort of drastic step. I will arrange for my Crown Prince - who is 17 in 1858 - to be sent to one of the finest Mayan universities for education. While there, he will fall madly in love with that daughter of a prominent Juun industrialist and cause a minor scandal in my country by marrying a non-royal - problem solved. I'll send him in 1858..

I may also send Princess Scholastica from my sattelite nation of Yagich Rafael (she's 11). She will become a collosal figure in late 19th century Yagich Rafaelite history after her father dies in an accident when she's about 18. She's going to be my Queen Victoria figure, so she might even be the better catch. I will have to see if anyone else wants to marry her - but I can't have her marry a king becasue I know her father will die without a male heir.

As for the church, that's awesome! I assume there are probably already some Apostolics in that territory due to the Apache being next door, so just have them grow in influence and ask for dioceses to be created. That or the leaders of the local Kappelists could just decide they want Apostolic protection since it's a small nation.

Look forward to doing business with you!

Commandante Lemming (talk) 22:36, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

No problem - I'm a little skethcy on weekends myself - half the time I can't even post Saturday and Sunday. This is going to be fun :-) Commandante Lemming (talk) 19:37, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Just so you know the storyline I'm planning in case you plan on writing anything - Prince Maughold is sitll falling in love with the daughter of a Juun industrialist rather than a royal (I like the scandal angle - I'll let you name her since I don't know your naming conventions). Scholastica is going to be strong willed and focussed on her studies because the plan is for her to return to Yagich Rafael as a monarch. If she marries, that person will have to return to Yagich Rafael with her as a Prince Consort. More likely she won't marry young - but any enterprising Mayan noblemen are welcome to take a shot. Whoever marires her (wherever they are from) will be a big influence in Yagich Rafael, but not a co-regent (think Prince Alfred with Victoria). On the other hand, Natalia Praxedes is going to grow up to be a little too intrested in court life, boy crazy, and more interested in music and art. My plan is for her NOT to go on to a univerisity - or perhaps she'll study at a conservatory. Either way - she's going to end up marrying a prince in some foreign country and lving comfortably with her courtly pleasures and playing her harp (or violin, or piano, not sure). If you want her, by all means set up a storyline where she stays in Chichen Itza. If not, I'm sure some European prince will fall for her. I also have two Princesses the same age in the Selk'nam mainland (Kyneswide and Aethylthryth) but I think they are likely to end up in Europe with noble marriages after the chaos their brother is about to cause. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:17, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! The backstories are what make this fun for me - I figure I don't want to put out anything that I don't enjoy reading, that and I want to be interesting enough that nobody wants to attack me lol. As for the storyline - sure pursue Scholastica, that works great. As for Natalia, if you want her, she's all yours. I'm using most of this generation of royal babies to deepen Maya-Selk'nam ties, and I specifically like the idea of the Maya having stong bonds with the new nation of Yagich Rafael (OTL Kerguelen Island), which some of the other nations are ignoring and whose royal family I'm trying to set up. I'll probably use my two mainland Selk'nam princesses to see if I can draw mainland European interest, as it's getting to be pretty far into the modern age and this generation or their children are probably the last (or second to last) generation of royal marriages for diplomatic purposes before love marriages become the rule among royals. Commandante Lemming (talk) 23:10, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh and last thing - if you do want to keep Natalia - I want her married to a future Emperor. The entire point of this is to essentially merge the royal families, and therefore forge lasting alliances becasue all of our figureheads are cousins. My royals will have Mayan blood, yours will have Selk'nam blood :-) Commandante Lemming (talk) 04:32, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I like it if you like it! Just remember that Scholastica and Natalia aren't "Selk'nam", they're "Yagich Rafaelite" (their nation declared independence from the Selk'nam Haruwin a while back). Only other thing is remember that Natalia is like 14 right now (born 1849), so wait a couple years on that one lol. Scholastica just turned 16 (born 1847) so she's open for pursuit by standards of the day, although like I said she's goingto be very studies-focussed. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:06, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again for playing along by the way - this REALLY helps me out. Hope you like this story as much as I do. Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:06, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Right - and I know I get confusing because at this point I'm playing a three headed game with a bunch of personalities in each one. Here's a quick reference in case you ever need it

Selk'nam: 

South Atlantia

King: David II

Royal Offspring: Prince Maughold, Princess Kynsewide, Princess  Æthelthryth

Yagich Rafael:

OTL Kerguelen in the South Indian Ocean

King: Gavin Peter

Royal Offspring: Princess Scholastica, Princess Natalia Praxedes

Praetorate of Pure Science

OTL Tristan da Cunha and Saint Helena in the South Atlantic

Totalitarian atheist dictatorship under Praetor Icarus and his son Ptolemy

Cool! Commandante Lemming (talk) 21:37, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

PM II Tension
As you probably noticied Emperor Ekta is becoming very big in business and I think some tension between the Juun family and the Imperial family of the Apache would be logical. Also I am trying to plan something so the Apache Preatorate is tested in fire. I don't want a war where territory is taken just a war to reinforce the Pure Science Movement. Just so the Movement gains more steam and also that part north of the Apache Preatorate how would you feel in a small breakway Pure Science country there. You can still post as them and it is directly above the Apache Preatorate. So message me back what you think.Grantzu (talk) 19:27, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

I need you to move on Scholatica ASAP as I am planning on her father dying within two turns ans she's getting old for college anyway. Thanks. :-) Commandante Lemming (talk) 20:53, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, CourageousLife. So, I have recently stopped playing as Persia, and I am now playing as a nation called L'Atlantide, a nation that encompasses what used to be all of France's northern South America. We are now neighbors, so hi! But anyhow, I was wondering how receptive you would be to selling the tiny colony between Nouvelle Bourgogne and the Chimu, in addition to the stip of land near OTL Panama, so that we could establish a canal there. I look forward to doing business! <span style="-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFFFFF 50%,#FFFFFF 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(#FFD700 50%,#000000 50%));"><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px;-webkit-border-radius: 1px 1px;-moz-border-radius: 1px / 1px;-webkit-box-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.6);background-image:-webkit-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#700000 45%,#700000 50%);background:-moz-repeating-radial-gradient(ellipse,#000000 45%,#202020 50%));border-top-left-radius:500px 400px;border-bottom-left-radius:500px 400px">               <span style="background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, right top, left top, from(#ffffff), to(#ffffff)); -webkit-border-radius: 36px 12px; -moz-border-radius: 36px / 12px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 5px 5px #ff0000; border:2px double #E5E4E2 border-radius:5px; border-bottom-right-radius:100px 90px; border-top-right-radius:100px 90px; color:#FFFFFF"> <font color=maroon face="Helvetica">I find your lack of faith   <font color="#ff0000" face="Helvetica" title="Blog">disturbing.  07:19, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey - nominated Lakin for leadership of the Apostolic Church for the ext ten years - mostly beacause I don't want to deal with it right now. You can decline if you want but no one else is taking it and you haven't had it yet - you could just have a copy-paste post and respond to anything that comes up.I'll take itb ack next decade but right now I'm now I'm busy and missing posts. Commandante Lemming (talk) 02:52, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Partition of Antilla. Meet me on chat. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. You, Kogasa, Crimson, and Scraw have all signed on. Scan is the only one left to agree on the matter. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:17, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hey I'm back and I was wondering if it was possible for a Pure Science break off country could occur in the near future. I just lost the Lakota who where just about to change and was wondering if you wouldn't mind doing that. I have already sent a lot of Liberators into your Northern border so use them as you see fit. Message me back about your thoughts.Grantzu (talk) 19:47, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

TSPTF
How would you feel about joining the TSPTF?

The Mighty Guns is too Glorious (or lazy) to go to source mode and type out his real sig  (Dammit, Guns!)  00:15, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

You need to smile and accept the nomination, haha.

I'll give you a link in just a moment...

The Mighty Guns is too Glorious (or lazy) to go to source mode and type out his real sig  (Dammit, Guns!)   20:20, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Revolution
Sure, just make sure it doesn't contradict any of the other chapters. We're actually discussing the story in the live chat at the moment if you're interested. Mscoree (talk) 21:39, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sure I will do what I can - although I will be busy over the Thanksgiving holiday. Commandante Lemming (talk) 16:17, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely no problem, Cour.

Hope you don't mind me giving the vote to women though, haha.

22:50, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Human History Experiment
I'd like to invite you to my new Map Game, Human History Experiment. It takes place on an unknown landmass, and if it can stay plausible will eventually move through 6000 years of human history.Wegscuba (talk) 02:56, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

AvA
Well, it's monday, but you haven't posted yet, so I'll post for you today and when you come back you can edit the post.

20:10, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Constable in the TSPTF. This allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a constable, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.

When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here. Since you are only a constable and do not have the power to delete or block, do not feel obligated to sign up for any duties you do not have the powers to do. Please inform and respect those in a position to do so if you see a problem that involves a need for either of those things.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.

Lordganon (talk) 19:30, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

AvA
Can't post today- can you please post the turn for Britain?

Thanks,  20:36, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you remove my edits in AvA?

19:09, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Human History
Human History Experiment has begun. Wegscuba (talk) 01:48, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

China and Japan
dont worry about that area ill eventually get the hell out of there probably by the early 70s at the latest i only want to secure the japan i envisioned first and to have some ffun with constant warfare on the continent for a few years.. and i will send you compensation next turn for indochina.Nkbeeching (talk) 02:51, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Sci-Fi Empire Fact Sheet Info
I know I'm probably bothering you, but I'm working on something, and was quite interested in getting some info from you regarding what name of empire you create if you could. I've set up a little list for you that I'd like for you to fill out if you had the time.


 * Empire name: <Official name and common name> <Separate names with "/">
 * Founding year: <2180-2270>
 * Capital (City, World):
 * Nation symbol: <Example: A silver sword, blade upturned, against a golden sunburst on a red disc.>
 * Total (Inhabited) Systems: <100-450>
 * Estimated population: <100 billion-1 trillion>
 * Government:
 * Current leader: <Title> <Name>
 * Currency:
 * Military name:
 * Military size:
 * Official language(s):
 * Other language(s):
 * Preferred empire color:
 * How is the leader chosen?:
 * How unified is the country?:
 * How tolerant are the people?:
 * What kind of economy is there?:
 * How does the army work?:
 * What's the literacy level?:
 * What's the overall technology?: <Low-tech or high-tech>
 * What do the people worship or invoke?: <Leave blank if none>
 * What's the most admired class?:
 * What's the lowest class?:
 * How are women treated?:
 * What is the attitude toward sex?:
 * What's the most pressing social/political problem?:

Thank you for your cooperation. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 03:55, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Can I join the States of America map game?
Hello do you have any spots left your states of America game and if so, can I join? Truecommunist (talk) 13:44, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

There's a new SOA game?

Why did no one tell me??

23:42, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Ahh, ok, thanks!

00:02, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

The one here: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/States_of_America_5_Revived_(Map_Game)

Banning Problem
Dude, can I PLEASE get unbanned? I kind of want to get back in the wiki action.Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 23:23, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Zapotec
The Zapotec are in a similar boat to the Mayans last game. Just a friendly reminder! One city state only. Scandinator (talk) 10:20, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Cour, I think we need a chat session to discuss our thoughts and plans for North America in PMIII, I will be on from about 21:00 UTC tonight. -- Hailstormer (talk) 17:53, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Just a friendly reminder. A couple other players have been stepping out of bounds with their nations due to ambiguity and lack of research so I reminded all the tribal/city state players. Scandinator (talk) 04:46, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I am playing as the Aztecs now Cour, because Warman never did turns [inactive]. Id like to form an alliance, you go south to South America, Ill go North to Mexico. Hope you say yes. SwankyJ (talk) 19:54, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Im going to go north and explore the territory. Or if i cant. I will just ally you and wait for Castille to come over. I helped him out very  much before I left the Knights Hospitaller. SwankyJ (talk) 00:26, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

I know I am joking. But what do you mean you surround me? Could you let me move by. I wish to go take over northern territories like Texas and Arizona. SwankyJ (talk) 15:02, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

Yo Cour, I need you to reply, to give me permission to pass through your lands so i can expand. I will not be completely surrounded by another nation. I will not attack you. By the way Mayan Empire is apparently going to declare war on you. I need land. So if you can offer me anything, I will join you. SwankyJ (talk) 15:02, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

Apparently they are to go to war with you. I haven't given them an answer yet in my response. Im surrounded by you, weaker than you, and I need military access from you. So at the moment I will probably side with you. If I can I would also like a little bit of "Aztecian green" in the Mayan empire, [if you know what I mean] because I need options and room to expand. Also I have noticed your land is dark grey around me, but it should be your color. So I am going to ask MP why that is not the Zapotec color. If it is not yours already, and the map isnt up to date, I would like to split that large chunk of Central America between us. SwankyJ (talk) 15:11, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

Okay next turn I will decline the military aid to the Mayans, and declare I am siding with the Zapotec, sense much Aztec blood lies in your people, and our cultures are very similiar. Also I would love to have a little eastern coastline of Central America that extends to my soon-to-be land in Texas and Northern Mexico. Once Tenoctilan is finished my economy score will boost up massively and I can really start expanding. So I will gain land in the Mayan region and then expand a little bit southward so if WE need to ever go to war with the Incan clans, I will be close enough to help and aid you in that war. But I will also move northward predominantly, and would ask if you would join me with taking a little northern bit of land, just in case we get into a tussel with the Cahokians or Colorado, although we can just allign with them to prepare for the "White" invasion. SwankyJ (talk) 15:21, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

I was just going to expand for two turns so I am done now. I will let you take care of the rest since that seems like you want to do, and for some reason wont accept help. Mayans arent too much of a threat SwankyJ (talk) 23:00, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

Hi
boo Jbwncster (talk) 04:54, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Cour 22:04, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

PM3 Map
It seems that recently you have been uploading your own version of the PM3 map. I'd like to ask that you refrain from doing this. All your recent maps have basically undone all the other changes on the real one. If you want something to be fixed simply report it on the talk page for one of the mapmakers to take care of. It seems that primarily you have just been editing your own nation, and although I'm not accusing you of doing so, we have this system with mapmakers to prevent users from adding extra land to their nation. So please try to use the talk page instead of editing the map yourself. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 00:21, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

I was actually instructed by Scan specifically to make the next few maps, making me a temporary map maker, since he was unable to. I use the talk page heavily to make my edits to the map, in fact, it's basically the only source I use, so I gurantee if you put it there it will be noticed. Users uploading their own maps have been causing some problems, so please just try not to upload new ones. You can make one showing your expansion and post it on the talk page if that helps. I'm just asking to prevent problems like this again where the past few maps are all incorrect. Sorry for the inconvenience, and I hope that sorts things out. Mscoree (talk) 00:40, March 4, 2014 (UTC)