Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-7559950-20130911012534/@comment-32656-20131002081135

Occupied(and partially occupied) and Axis Europe had a pre-war Jewish population of just under 9 million. Of these, just under 6 million were killed by Axis forces. Most of the survivors in these areas were from the Soviet Union, Romania, Hungary, and France - areas where the Axis were either not allowed to do take from until the near the end, or did not reach entirely. Scandinavia and Southern Europe, generally, faring the best overall though. And, for all of Europe, Jewish population is estimated to have been a bit over 10 million in 1942.

So no, not 12 million Jews - at all.

Actually, the 6 million Jews figure is very accurate. Nazis kept very good records, disturbingly enough, about that part.

For the camps themselves and the related infrastructure, 10 million is probably a reasonable guess, though past the number of Jews there is great debate. The number of Romani, for instance, varies from a few hundred thousand to 1.5 million, depending on the person doing the estimate.

Hitler kept it pretty quiet, imo, about what he was going to do to the Slavs. That's part of why the Nazis were, at first, viewed as liberators by a fair number of Ukrainians and some Russians.

Now, the far-right parties in those areas today - not Nazi, that is different, ffs - have a membership that either doesn't believe that the Holocaust happened and denies that Hitler hated Slavs, or simply doesn't know anything about it. Most of these groups, however, are simply very far-right, and hate Hitler too.