Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-85.230.36.240-20130928191750/@comment-1086710-20140610181440

Yes they were, but if the Nazies got a cheafire or peace treaty with the western allies they would no longer have to concentrate on the west, so they would be able to move all their troops east to prevent russian advance.

I do belive that they could have stopped the red army somewhere between Köningsberg and Dansig.

And the red army would have suffered the same attrition in Europe as the Germans suffered in Russia, plus the morale boost from beating back the combined british american attack and having them forced to the peace table would be enormous.

In most cases a war is won by superior morale more then anything else. That is why when something starts to collaps the collaps accelerates like a domino effect.

Of course it is highly speculative that it would have ended many decades later in a nuclear first strike by the russians, but it is very likely in my oppinion that a are sensible german government after hitlers death would start to near the british and the americas. They would want to open trade relations and also diplomatic relations, and I think that as early as the 1960's Germans would be able to take vecations in England and while versa.

As both factions would have much to respect the other fore. The germans would respect the English navy and the english tenasity and spirit, and the english would respect the army and techonology of germany.

Of course there would be disagreements over the more sensitive issues, but when America and Russia can be friends, anything is possible.