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 * [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!)
 * DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It
 * Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 13:19, July 10, 2013 (UTC) maybe
 * --Salnax (talk) 23:46, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * ChrisL123 (talk) 00:01, July 11, 2013 (UTC)}
 * Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:47, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Scandinator (talk) 13:07, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mscoree (talk) 14:47, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mafia (talk) 17:28, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Octivian Marius (talk) 17:46, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 July 13, 20:41 (CET)
 * Feudalplague (talk) 18:44, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bfoxius (talk) 14:41, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cookiedamage (talk) 15:43, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bfoxius (talk) 14:41, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cookiedamage (talk) 15:43, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Map Contest 1 (Closed): King of the Hill
PoD: Columbus goes exploring for a different country (not Spain). This country goes on to dominate the New World.

Challenge: Create a map of the New World, dominated by a different country. This map can be from any time period, just be sure to say which time period. Be sure to include labels, map keys, subdivisions of countries, etc. (Note: By dominate, I mean this country has the most influence in the New World. Other countries can and should still have some land.)

Time Frame: Two weeks, July 7 - July 20
 * Voting Starts July 20, 0:00 UTC

Inquisition- Guns
First entry xD! A brief summary of what goes on here: Columbus sails for Portugal instead of Spain, and it is Portuguese ships which dominate South America. The Treaty of Tordesillas is still forced upon Portugal but they ignore it completely and wage war against Spain, with France and England. The end of this war is the unification of the Portuguese and Spanish Royal families, to form the Kingdom of Iberia, which goes on to control many of the regions that the UK did OTL, such as India, New Zealand and vast parts of Southern Africa. The Ottoman Empire declines but never dies out, still being a major regional power. Russia is a major power here, and controls OTL Alaska, while the British still control what is basically OTL Canada. This is a present day map. (I'll upload one with labels soon )

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A different world-TOB
(Sorry for bad labeling quality)

Basically in this he sails for France, and France takes much of OTL USA and some Canada. Britain wins a war against France and creates settlement on Quebec. These become independent as New France and the Republic of Nova Scotia. Spain dominates Central and South America. Russia also expands its settlement in NA, creating Republika Ameriki. Sweden and Norway stay unified. Communism never exists. Britain has a lot less colonial land, and the colonial era is dominated by France (Asia) and Spain (Africa). The OE still exists, and Pakistan and India are one nation. The Russian Empire and France are the superpowers of today, and two new ones (German Empire and Salleland (Australia)) are expected to arise. There were three world wars this timeline - one in the 1700s, and two in the 1900s.

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King of the Hell - Scraw


' King of the Hell. World Political Map, nil labels. Approximately 1980. '

So, here it is. I originally had an idea very similar to Guns', but we developed this uncanny ability to read each other's minds and he beat me to it. I now spit this out as my replacement. In my entry, named King of the Hell, the Spanish crown rejects Columbus and he goes back to Florence, where he dies penniless. In the early 1500s (no later than 1515, I'd say), the Russians discover the Americas via OTL Vancouver Island. They name the whole god damn North American continent Alyeska, and the first colony Alyeska. Alyeska is independent today, shown in light blue along the Pacific coast. It is in two parts, Alyeska and Orientalia. Orientalia is named so because the Russians get dibs on the Pacific Ocean and name it the Oriental Ocean, hence the name. This new spreads to France and England late-ish, who get there by 1550 and 1575 respectively. Most of the US east of the OTL Mississippi, as well as the Louisiana Purchase area, becomes New France, including OTL Ontario. The British get footed a bit of Quebec and Newfoundland, named New England. This timeline also features victory for Napoleon. Napoleon unites Europe west of Russia into a series of vassal states, with the aid of Russia, and, wait for it, the Mamluk Empire, having beaten the Ottomans. Ironically, I take Egypt out of their control by the 1900s. Napoleon forces the Spanish and Portuguese crowns to the New World, onto OTL South America (Novorossiya) uniting Iberia under his brother, Joseph. Napoleon later betray the Mamluks and supports the Greek and Egyptian rebels against them, as well as expanding into the Middle East and India, as well as Africa. China rules the Asian mainland and Japan is the undisputed master of the Pacific. The Japanese discovered Australia, and it is split with the British and the French. The British are a global power, surviving on a commonwealth-like system consisting of their one-time colonies. India is divided between a free north and a once British-dominated Southern India. Today, the world is less peaceful than OTL, with war between New Spain and Brasil commonplace, and tensions between France (with New France, the Aztecs, the Greeks, and the Persians) and Russia (with Alyeska, Novorossiya, the Iberian exile states, Japan, and the Mamluks) ever-rising. Welcome to King of the Hell. (OOC: I had a lot of fun with this and might make it into a timeline or some sort of small project. OOC 2: Named King of the Hell because there's always war and death, but this means more advanced technology and living conditions in major countries.) (Labelled Version: Double-click for full size.)

Comments:
 * I like the way that you dealt with the Columbus POD, and the originality of the scenario. Map is nice and eye-pleasing. CourageousLife (talk) 17:25, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Votes:


 * -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 July 20, 00:08 (CET)

Dark Vision - Mafia


Columbus is rejected by Spain, and after attempting to drum up support on the mainland, travels to the UK. He sails from the UK, and discovers America. After the UK discovers America, they don't tell other countries about it, and colonize the entire of the Americas. Russia discovers Alaska in 1600, and is defeated when they attempt to invade. The rest of Europe discovers America in 1615. When Napoleon rises to power, the UK wins several battles, as they have the entire of the Americas. Napoleon surrenders earlier, and is executed. The UK doesn't colonize many other colonies, as they have two continents. With the Americas closed off to them, other nations which desire colonies turn to Oceania and Africa. The slave trade is yet to be abolished. When WWI begins, the UK is not involved until France is losing badly. They then join on the side of Germany, and invade France. The French are the ATL Germans of the First World War, being billed the entire cost of the War. WWII begins when a French Fascist takes power in France, and invades Spain. The Germans declares war, followed by the UK. When the war ends, in 1942, the UK grants independence to OTL Mexico, and OTL Brazil. The ATL world is very different to OTL, as the UK is incredibly powerful, but does very little, and the lack of such costly World Wars means the UN was never founded, so wars in  Europe are more common. The world in this Timeline does not have the nuclear bomb, as the French and their allies surrendered without much of a brutal war, so the Cold War after the Second World War, isn't cold, with repeated Soviet attempts to invade Alaska, and the USSR invading Germany and France at one point, before they were forced to retreat by the opening of a new front by the UK. With a constant war to focus on, the USSR never collapsed. This world is brutal, with military regimes, and Communist dictatorships, with very few nations, as the colonial era never came to an end.

Comments:
 * I thought it was interesting to see a hyper-power scenario, and I also thought the idea of a Russian-controlled Middle East was very fresh and new. CourageousLife (talk) 17:25, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Votes:

Walking the Streets of New Lands - Kogasa


In this timeline, Columbus goes to explore for Scandinavia. He manages to land around Cuba and soon Scandinavia begun colonise the new lands, which they call Nordland and Sydland respectively. Russia later managed to colonised Alaska, and Portugal colonised around Brazil. The Kalmar Union managed to last longer up until 1650, in which Sweden and Denmark-Norway went their own ways. Meanwhile, Japan begun to rise and turn into a major power as well as expansionist.

By 1700, Nordland was divided between Denmark-Norway, Sweden, and Russia while Sydland was divided between Portugal, Denmark-Norway, Sweden, and the Netherlands. Meanwhile Japan discovered Australia and managed to colonise most of it.

In 1790, Algønquin declared independence from Denmark-Norway successfully. By the 1880s, almost every nation in Nordland and Sydland was independent except Suriname, which remained a part of the Netherlands to this very day, and Alaska.

Later, in 1904, the Russo-Japanese War begun to spread and turned into the First World War which lasted for Ten Years. The Japanese/Allied Coalition managed to win in the war and the Treaty of Hakodate was signed. Alaska declared independence shortly before the Russian Revolution took place. By 1939, the Soviet Union invaded Germany, which led to a Second World War between the Comintern and the Allies. The war resulted in the collapse of Communism worldwide and the rise of Japan, Brazil, and Kemiträsk as the new Superpowers, and no Cold War took place. The main characters of the Touhou Project are Mononobe no Futo and Komachi Onozuka.

Comments:
 * I feel like too many OTL borders were used on this one. 21:26, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * How so? I did merge many smaller nations into larger ones. Only Turkey, Switzerland and Romania retain the same borders as OTL. Germany does for the most part, too with a slice of it being under Sweden. -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 July 20, 23:50 (CET)
 * No no, you don't understand. All the borders are some sort of border in OTL. For example,  Alaska implausibly has the Colorado border at its southern corner, Mexico goes up to Arkansas for no reason. You didn't add any new borders. All the nations are just amalgamations of OTL borders. Kind of hard to explain. 21:59, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see what you mean. I usually use the OTL nations, subdivisions of nations, historical nations, and/or borders around disputed areas to carve borders for new nations. Hence why most (if not all) my alternate maps have borders drawn from OTL. -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 July 21, 00:09 (CET)

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Sultan of the Hill - Chris
In this interesting and likely somewhat ASB world, Columbus is constantly denied funding for his voyage to "India" due to monetary constraints from recent wars. In a desperate move, Christopher Columbus moves to Constantinople and asks one of the richest empires at the time, the Ottoman Empire, for funding to explore a route unbeknownst to Europe. The government reluctantly agrees (since they already have a route to India), but sends the best ships with the best crew (including ) across the Atlantic anyway.

When arriving on New Jerusalem (OTL Puerto Rico), Columbus and the crew discovers that they have not landed in India, but rather a new continent. The ships soon land on OTL Mexico and discovers untold riches, and influences the Ottoman government to establish settlements in the New World, somewhat more peacefully than in OTL. Forced conversions were less than European's would have, and Inca is not defeated, it is instead made a protectorate. The Ottoman's major colony is Al-Tasweyah, a transliteration of "the settlement" in Arabic. The new discovered land is kept secretive for decades in order to prevent other countries from collecting riches from the New World, and the Ottomans benefit greatly.

Aside from the Islamic presence in the Americas, the French and Ottoman alliance grows tenfold in the New World, and the Ottomans and French become two of the largest powers in the New World. This bond would also help modernize the Ottoman Empire, giving the people more power as opposed to absolute rule, and granting European nations like Greece, Serbia, and Romania semi-independence. The British and the Russians would also gain claims in the Northern New World, with the Spanish and Portuguese in the Southern. The greater influence by the Ottomans influences national identities of Muslim-majority areas, like in Russia and Malaysia. ChrisL123 (talk) 07:42, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Very nicely done. Map is easy on the eyes, and goes into acute detail. Another very original idea. Well done. CourageousLife (talk) 17:25, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Votes:
 * 21:05, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Reximus55 (talk) 19:53, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yay an Edit conflict (talk) 22:55, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * CourageousLife (talk) 23:40, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mafia (talk) 23:15, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

Two Worlds, One Planet - Bfoxius (talk)
Venice, after losing much of its possessions in the Eastern Mediterranean, takes a chance with this "Columbus" guy. He lands in the OTL Outer Banks of North Carolina, and the colony of Venetia Nova is eventually established in 1512 around the Albemarle Sound. This expedition persuades Venice to abandon their old galleys and adopt the more modern caravel design.

Venice keeps this New World a secret for much of the first half of the 16th century, growing rich from the tobacco trade, and gaining the money to fund their constant wars with the Ottomans, which they usually win, gaining them much of Greece and the Aegean Islands. Eventually, nations wonder where the tobacco comes from, and the United Provinces, believing that it is Chinese in origin, set sail to the west, looking for China, and eventually run into OTL Newfoundland in 1577. They also found a trade empire, but this one is around the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River/Seaway area. They use the money to found their wars with Spain, and unite the Low Countries early.

The colonial powers ignore the Aztecs, and they grow powerful and resistant to European disease. They expand into the OTL south United States east to the Mississippi river. Back in Europe, in the 1600's, the Inquisition is more severe, and many Catholic nations, such as France, Spain and Scotland become very strict, religious and intolerant of Protestantism. Many Protestants flee to the merchant nations and England. England, the United Provinces' ally, founds a colony in the New World in Cuba for religious refugees. Eventually in the 1700's, religious tensions caused the Great War, a war between the Protestants and Catholics. Russia, who was neutral, actually emerged stronger going out than going in. They colonize OTL Alaska and several western Canadian provinces. The native North Americans, surrounded by colonial powers, form a European-style government, known as the North American Confederation.

Eventually, much of Europe is ruled by a theocratic dictatorship, pioneered by a victorious Napoleon, who was heavily religious, and became Pope, while many of the successors of the merchant republics emigrate to America, where they and the natives coexist as democratic capitalist republics. The Second Great War was an African colonial war, where the theocratic dictatorships fought the American republics over African colonies. Today, this region remains unstable, and is the world's major tinderbox for war. Asia is much like OTL, but a monarchic Russia controlling Mongolia and Manchuria. China is a backwards Communist state, yet to reform to become like today's China. Japan is a rising power, an empire that's not theocratic, an extreme rarity ATL. They control much of Southeast Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and India.

In an ironic turn of events, global warming, accelerated by the advanced technology of the timeline, floods the last bastions of freedom in Europe, Holland and Venice, fallen from their past glory, with their colonies preserving the legacy of the explorers of old...

Scotland was Calvinist, not Catholic.

ATL Protestantism was weaker and was confined to areas such as the United Provinces, Venice and the American nations.

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Republic on the Hill by Scandinator


Seizing the lucky eighth spot :P. Columbus, after getting rejected by Spain, returns to his native Genoa. Intrigued by his offer of a sea route to India, the Doge of Genoa, seeking to topple the Venetian trade monopoly and bypass the hostile Ottomans, finances the expedition. The Genoese manage to find the New World and knowing that they would need support, inform the Milanese of the find. The Milanese provide the manpower while Genoa provides the fleets and the two nations divide up large tracts of the New World. The success of the two nations in the New World allows the Milanese to defeat the Venetians and retake the Po valley and Verona. The Venetians assassinate the Milanese royal family and Genoa, Savoy and Venice fill in the gap leaving a rump Milanese state which is a Savoyard puppet. The Milanese New World territories are seized by Genoa to whom the settlers must rely for supplies. The Spanish and Portuguese eventually colonize along with Denmark-Norway, England and France. Two horrific world wars result in Genoa becoming a leading world power in a tightly-contested area. China, France and Russia are also broken up in the resulting treaties. Africa is peacefully decolonized with culturally similar areas combining into the new states.

Comments:
 * I like the detail this map goes into as far as central and southern Africa and Europe. CourageousLife (talk) 17:25, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am working on a similar map but I decided not to post it. Scan I have a tip for you. Napoleon was a Corsican and Corsica was part of Genoa, I assume that would result in extensive puppets of Genoa. Octivian Marius (talk) 21:02, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I like the borders. Or rather--the lack of them. Very interesting idea. 21:26, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

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 * Octivian Marius ( talk ) 21:02, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:21, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * ChrisL123 (talk) 16:48, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Staaten-General on the Hill - Imp


Now, I had to upload my map in jpg quality. It isn't properly complete anyway, but it is on its way - and I hope to get the final map in png. This is just to attract potential voters.

I prefer the ninth spot if I am totally honest. If Chris thinks his map is ASB, he has got nothing on this. Well, Columbus, getting rejected goes to the one place they understand how important spices and grains are in the matter of trading and selling, Holland. Knowing how important a route to the east could be in making a hefty profit and getting the spices cheaper and faster - Holland soon funds the expedition across the Atlantic.

What Columbus finds changes history. Landing on a new, undiscovered, landmass on the planet, the small fleet realise they are not in India, but somewhere new altogether. Sailing farther toward the Aztecs and trading with them - they discover the area is rich in resources. Resources which could make Holland the dominant province in the low countries. Yet, Holland is not independent - it is ruled over by Philip I, King of Castille; the same Philip who rejected his voyage initially. Seeing the untold riches in these new lands, he soon sends out ships, sparking off unrest in the low countries. Holland would go on to unite all the provinces into one nation, Dutchland (?) in a war lasting decades, and would naturally seek an ally.

An enemy of Spain, England would become Holland's greatest allies. In 1588, the combined naval prowess of England and Holland would cripple the Spanish Armada - and never again would Spain be able to cast such power as it did. But Spain would not suffer the most, it would be Portugal, which would lose almost all of its colonies in the world and only manage to retain a small slice of land in the New World, that too becoming home to the Portuguese Royal Family as they fled from Spain - which would take control of Portugal. The United Kingdom and the United Provinces would go on to become allies which the world has never seen the lights of before. Naturally having their up and downs like any alliance, they would hold steadfast for the next 415 years. They would divy up the remainder of the New World, while the Russians would eventually gain a large piece of land to call their own.

Towards the modern day, there would be numerous butterflies shaping the world. The Dutch would open up Japan to the world, much earlier than OTL. Japan would gain a heavy advantage in the region with extensive trading with the west and would go on to assume dominance in China. Two World Wars later, the west would find themselves at odds with Japan, and a Cold War which would continue up till the present day. The Japanese would begin a brutal brainwashing campaign in China, assimilating them into Japanese culture, destroying vast swaths of Chinese artifacts and such. Lasting over a century, most areas in East China would now classify themselves as Japanese, with estensive inter-marrying and brainwashing, with the Chinese legacy only safe in a small puppet of Japan.

Not everything so bleak though. The Dutch Commonwealth, and its ally, the Britannic Commonweath would go on to become hyperpowers - in the true sense of the world, bations of justice and freedom. Its citizens would classify themselves as either Dutch or British, with colonization being relatively harmless. India still remains a slightly tricky situation. Although its population speak and write Dutch, the somewhat independant minded Princes and their states would always be a slight problem. The Space Race would continue, and colonies would be established on the moon and then Mars.

Nations around the world lost a few colonies to Revolution, with notable colonies being Ghana. The Dutch (and the British) on the other hand, lost their colonies to Evolution. Eventualy being treated as equals, they would become full members of the Commonwealth - contributing everything to the good of the Commonwealth. The British and Dutch would remain allies and a rough trade language, which consisted of a mixture of English and Dutch and having its roots in the early 17th century, would form and go on to become a major trading language all around the world. The importance of this language would be understood and both Commonwealths would implement its learning in schools. Although the British and Dutch Royal Families have never been united, it is no secret the next in line to the British throne has taken quite a fancy to the Dutch Queen...

Comments: Votes:
 * I too, had a lot of fun with this, and I might actually make this into a timeline if I have enough ideas and time to research aspects. [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:46, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

Scottish Scenario


Yeah, I got lazy and finished this at last minute. But here's something a bit different; a scenario where Columbus sails for Scotland. This leads to their becoming a major power independent of England, as well as the Balkanization of Great Britain. The map shows the world in 1900.

In North America, we can see much more political complexity than in our timeline. As the Scottish initially colonized Eastern Canada, the rest of the Americas were exposed to and gained immunities to diseases before a lot of the other European powers came along. Thus, there are both European and Native-based countries. In general, Scotland has supported the independence of the South-East North American nations like Cherokee, Shawnee and Creek to limit English growth. Louisiana is independent, though politically associated with France. Of interesting note is Zion, a theocratic state formed by a fusion of the beliefs of Catholics chased across the oceans and mountains by Protestants and Native beliefs. Also of note is an Aztec state, albeit one economically and culturally dominated by the English.

South America is a much simpler affair. The northern part of the continent is Scottish territory, but the Inca are independent and the three other large nations are independent. They consist of the formerly Portuguese Papaga, Dutch Azie, and the Spanish Surtierra.

Europe is pretty standard, with a few exceptions. GB and Italy are both Balkanized into four and five states respectively, while Sweden remains a major power in the Baltic. Belgium never existed, with OTL's territory being split between the Dutch and French.

Africa is, as per usual, split between European powers. Note that the Spanish conquests of the 1500's focused on the Mediterranean instead of the Americas in this timeline, meaning that places like Algiers are as Spanish as Morocco. Also, North Africa is mostly Catholic, despite a mix of remaining Sunni Muslims and Protestant groups. Elsewhere, Ethiopia is the only major independent state, while even smaller countries like Wales have a piece of the African pie. Of special note is Germany, which has an empire from the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean.

Asia is dominated by Russia, which without a powerful British Empire, was able to expand southward through Persia. That said, the empire is overextended, and on the verge of collapse. It will disintegrate by 1920 or so. Meanwhile, India is split between European possessions and a dynasty that rules over most of the subcontinent in theory. In actuality, India, like OTL's China, is the zone of political games among European powers. China is somewhat diminished from OTL's Qing dynasty, lacking Tibet and Inner Mongolia. Japan rises in the late 1800's much as in OTL.

Last of all, Australia and Oceania is mostly split between the Scottish, English, Spanish, and Dutch.

Although the Scottish are not a huge globe dominating empire, they are the leader in global influence. With territory and associated states in both of the Americas, Europe, Africa, India, South-East Asia, and Oceania, the sun never sets on the Scots. Furthermore, their empire is at least as stable as Britain's was in OTL's 1900.

As of 1900, a great war is in the process of being created. It may not happen for over a decade, but is inevitable. On one side is Scotland, France, the Netherlands, and Russia, while on the other is England, Germany, Spain, and the Ottomans. I predict that the war would lead to Scotland's faction being defeated, leading to their overseas possessions becoming fully independent, Russia collapsing into dozens of entities, and possibly the German annexation of parts of the Netherlands. However, the Scottish alliance would dominate the Americas and Arabia would bite out parts of the Ottomans. Not to mention that Russia's collapse would give China and Japan a lot of opportunities to grow.

Anyhow, that's my map. --Salnax (talk) 02:42, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

Comments:

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Magna Venexia - Sine


Columbus is rejected by Spain. Instead of focusing on the Western European countries he goes to the East. He pledges to the Venetian Republic and Genoa to aid them. The Venetians agree after hearing that the Genoans have interest on this and seeking for a plausible trading route to take control of. Soon, the 3rd of January of 1493 he sails to the unknown seas beyond the Strait of Gibraltar, he finds himself in a sea full of nothing but an endless horizon and water. Stranded by two months and a half and far from any known land he gives up, he plans a suicide attempt that he would execute shortly afterwards but the next day an unexpected sound wakes him up. They have found land, but instead of landing in the Antilles, he lands in Guiane. He soon claims the lands discovered to Venice and names it Sancti Salvatore di Nostra Madonna. Venice soon enough swarms the Caribbean Sea, or (Mediterraneo indico) or the Indian Mediterranean. The Inca empire falls at their hands. However, sooner as in 1516 it's conquered by the Venetians, followed by Mexico in 1518 in the mid of the pest's invading the new homeland, in 1498 Venice, Spain, Aragon and Portugal sign the Treaty of Barcelona, Venice receives most of the territories west  of a drawn line, receiving most of the western part of America. With the establishment of the first colonies of Venice, Aragon and Portugal.

The American cultures and tribes first welcome them, with a few exceptions such as the Caribs, who, in fact, fight the independent Venetian settlers in 1499. The first European-like city in Americas is founded Nuova Venexia, in OTL Cartagena,Colombia. Soon the Venetians would take Panama and by 1517 they conquered the Inca and three years later by 1520 they would defeat the Aztec empires, The monarchy of the Aztecs started an emigration to the north where they would establish small city states reaching California by the beginning of the XVII century, Spain is not Fully unified as the Ottomans intervene in the conquest of granada, causing the separation of Aragon in 1534 and the Rebellion of Leon and Galicia in 1545 backed by the portuguese, However in 1624, Spanish, Aragonese and Venetians form a Christian coalition against the Ottomans expelling Muslims from Iberia and the Ottomans of Tunisia, which becomes the kingdom of Carthage.in 1714 another coalition forces the Ottoman out of Greece, the Coalition of Russia, Austria, Spain, Venice and Aragon forces the Ottomans from Istanbul and Greece and later the rebellion of the bulgars brings to an end the Ottoman control of the Balkans, France keeps its colonial empire instead focused on florida and new england, the independence movements start in Southern Columbia (South America) with the declaration of Independence of Nuova Venetia, (OTL Cartagena, Colombia) the American decolonization occurs in the last decade of the 18th century, and Brazil fractures in several smaller states.

The Asian basin is less divided as Russia keeps most of the Central Asian territories, The Persian form a caliphate that takes most of the territories once belonging to the Sassanid persia and manage to put some control on Central Asia through a vassal. Arabia manages to create its own caliphate fearing the persian instrusion, the caliphate is started by The Yemeni and manages to influence the Levant excepting the Palestinian territories a Christian Jewish state formed in the first world war, Eastern Asia is a little bit different as China is divided in northern China or Federal China, and Southern China or Republican China, Korea is unified and Japan has less influence and power than in OTL

Africa is more divided, Egypt got independence earlier as in 1759 a revolt occur backed by Spanish and Neapolitans. Ethiopia assured itself more territory conquering parts of somalia, and south africa is smaller and was a English colony from its beginning.

The world war I occurs in 1897 against Russia's attempt of taking Poland and Prussia, forcing the Austrian empire and the Germans to aid them, and soon prompting the French and Venetians to do so, the Turkish join the fight attacking Greece, in the end this finishes the Ottoman empire, and forces Russia to give up Lithuania and Ukraine and puts the Czar out of its power starting the Republic of Russia, this, as well, ends with the Colonial empire of Russia in the Americas as the commonwealth is dissolve and the nations became fully independent and the return of The northern Japanese islands taken during a Japanese civil war in 1834 and Manchuria to China taken in the Civil war of 1796, The Second World War occurs after Turkish and Austrian form a coalition after the Austrian Civil war that ended the empire in 1923 and launch a war against the Balcanic nations, prompting back Venice and France to join the war, Prussia joins again instead against Germany trying to unify the German world, the war ends with the complete annihilation of the Turkish and Austrian armies, and the returning of the Prussian gains to Germany. the World is pretty much as ordered as usual, the only few difference is a bigger diversification due to there not being a full dominating power (as the British were In OTL) instead there being several world powers and a few superpowers, Venice, France and Greece are the most notable as they received several territories to their control in the 19th and 20th century. The American powers are mainly Brazil, The Confederation of the Lakes and Nuova Venexia.

Comments: A much better version of my timeline! Bfoxius (talk) 16:28, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Votes: Bfoxius (talk) 16:28, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Results






Map Contest 2 (Voting): The House of Habsburg
PoD: The Habsburg family does not decline, but instead grows more powerful than in OTL.

Challenge: Create a map of the world where the Hapsburg family retains power to present day. The PoD can be at any time, as long as it leads to Hapsburg domination. Labels are crucial to this map.

Time Frame: Two weeks, July 21 - August 3
 * Voting Starts August 3, 0:00 UTC

This House is Habsburg's House
Yay, first spot. Basically, in this ATL, Charles V of Spain never splits the family into the junior branch, and we see a continuation of the senior branch. The Habsburgs quietly begin to fold the Dutch and others into their culture, and vice versa. Eventually the HRE is consolidated into the Germanic Empire, and Castile unites with Aragon and Portugal, forming the Iberian Empire. Sandwiching France and forcing them into cooperation, the three nations wage a massive war against the British Isles and they trash them. The French win the British colonies in the New World and the French and Iberians split their Indian power. Soon the Russians scare everyone west of the Austrian border under their power, with some heavily damaging wars. Eventually the Habsburgs turn on the French, but not after the French and Russians conquer North America. The Habsburgs use their new found power to unite Italy and the Balkans under their rule, and also manage to seize the Golden Horn from the Ottomans. Desperate. the Ottomans turn to the ever-expanding Russians for help, and the most powerful alliance in history is born. Meanwhile, Henry VIII uses his daughters to his advantage and unites France with England, a very risky political move, but one that saves both kingdoms.

Naturally, rumbles of revolution rise up in the Habsburg territories, and Austrian Napoleon (hahahaha!) beats the living daylights out of them. Meanwhile, the French lose control over New France, very much thanks to their union with England, and the Union turns to Africa for colonialism, jacking Kongo and South Africa before the Habsburgs can. The Hapsburgs then conquer North Africa under a puppet Moroccan sultanate, and West Africa under a pupper Malian kingdom. The Habsburgs also colonize New Zealand (New Austria), the Phillippines (Franzland), and East Australia (Terra Australis). The Greeks and Italians, heavily oppressed by Napoleon, flee to Australia and the Pacific and form exile states that become regional powers. In this time of chaos, the Mughals unite India east of the Russian border and stretch all the way to Indochina.

Eventually even the Habsburgs begin to lose power, and see Brasilea (formed by the Portuguese royalty in exile) supporting massive revolutions that reform the Aztecs (Aztex Empire) and Incans (Inkan Empire). The Aztex also support a revolution in Franzland and later annex it. The last territories in South America also revolt, creating Patagonia and Nova Granada. The Russians come to dominate Asia as they push their southern border to the Indian ocean, conquering Persia and destroying all those who stand in their way. The Russians also accomplish a great feat by conquering Japan and using their new vantage point to conquer Korea, Manchuria and most of Western China, forcing the Mings into a rump state.

The Mughals, growing more and more powerful, colonize the Swahili coast and strike fear into the hearts of Europe. Castile has supported the Eireish revolt against Anglo-France, making it a success, and Aden has united the nations south of the Ottoman borders. Tension continues rising, and eventually spark into the First World War (1873 - 1880), with the Grand Alliance (Germanic Empire, Castile, China, Eireland, Ethiopia, Aden, Sweden, Patagonia, Nova Granada) facing a major defeat at the hand of the World Pact (Russia, Anglo-France, Ottoman Empire, Mughal Empire,  New France, Brasilea, Aztex Empire, Inkan Empire), with Sweden being annexed by the Russians. The Second World War saw the victories reversed, but the Third and Fourth Wars gave us Pact victories.

Today, the Russian Tsardom has reformed into a constitutional monarchies, and its former colonies of Vinland, Alyeska, Kamerun, and Novorossiya are part of the Russian Commonwealth. Anglo-France retains a rough union with Natal and Kongo, and the Habsburgs continue to rule dominantly in their territories. New Austria and Terra Australis have revolted from Germany and Castile respectively, and Australasia is a haven for peace, not involved in any wars. The Aztex and Inkan Empire have gone back to their cultural roots and have purged Spanish rule from their territories and have joined the ranks of the regional powers. Russia is a massive hyperpower, as is the Habsburg empire, and the race into space is still very much alive (Moon landings, Austria 1947, Mars landing, Russia 1962, Manned Venus landing, Russia 1981, Moon colony, Austria 1975 and Russia 1977, Mars colony Russia 1988 and Austria 1991, detailed exploration of Pluto, Russia 2000, so forth), with Russia constantly battling the Habsburgs for complete domination of the world and associated territories. New France, the Ottoman and Mughal Empires, and Anglo-France are superpowers, with the Aztex, Inkans, New Italy, New Greece, Brasilea, and Aden quickly rising behind them. The future of the world hangs in the balance.

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The Capital City of Flowers in the Habsburg -Kogasa


In this timeline, managed to avoid assassination and manages to suppress a revolt in Swabia. A few years later, the Habsburg managed to gain a greater influence, even more so when Frederick III was crowned Holy Roman Emperor in 1452. Soon the Habsburg Monarchy was established in 1526 and managed to rule most of Germany as well as Austria-Hungary. By the 1600s Spain was annexed into the Habsburg Monarchy as it was still ruled by their house. Around the 1700s only Portugal, France, the Italian states, Britain, Scandinavia, Russia, and parts of Eastern Europe remained outside of the Habsburg Monarchy. Technology and Science in Europe advanced slower than OTL for the most part, except in Italy, Britain, and Russia to an extent.

The Americas (named Běiguó and Nánguó, respectively) ended up being mostly colonised by China with Zheng He discovering them around the 1410s. By the time the Spanish Habsburgs arrived in Cuba they met with the Chinese and a few wars took place. By 1525, the Spanish and Habsburg managed to establish a colony around other parts of the Americas. Japan also established a few colonies in Nánguó.

In Africa, the lands were divided between the Habsburgs, Venice (later Italy), and the British, and France. In Asia, many powerful empires managed to resist European colonisation though the Habsburgs managed to colonise parts of Indonesia.

In the world of today, most of Europe is filled with developing countries, with Italy, France, the UK, and Russia being the newly industrialised countries out of Europe.

In Asia, Japan and China are the most technologically advanced and all Asian nations are fully developed countries. In the Americas, most of the nations are also fully developed countries with the Chinese and Japanese colonies fairing better than the European ones. The Superpowers in this world are China, Japan and Méizhōu.

The main characters in the Touhou Project are Yuyuko Saigyouji and Youmu Konpaku.

The Habsburg Empire - CookieDamage
(I may or not have accidently created a map based around the year 1820 and not the desginated present day as stated in the challenge. Oops...)

POD: 1640. King Philip IV of Spain puts down revolts in Portugal brought about by the Thirty Years' War. Portugal remains under personal union along with Castille and Aragon. Philip dies in 1665 and Charles II, impotent and frequently ill, takes the throne. In 1697, he produces a single heir, Maria. She inherits the throne in 1707 upon her father's death and furthur unifies the country. Under her reign, Castille, Portugal, and Aragon were named 'states' and lost their statuses of being Kingdoms. The next year, Maria declared the United Spains to be in existence. Spain continued to grow. In 1794, Spain acquired French lands after France's devastating loss against Austria during the War of the French Revolution.

On the other side of Europe, Austria fought a war against the Ottoman empire in 1712. The Ottoman Empire lost the war, and ended up releasing Wallachia and Greece as sovereign nations. Some Ottoman territories were also annexed to Austria. In 1743, the throne of Denmark passed to King Erik Habsburg, thus beginning a Habsburg rule in the land. By 1750, Austria had landed colonies in western North America, Oceania, SE Asia, and India. France was completely devastated during the Seven Years' War, with Great Britain and Austria warring against France and dividing New France among themselves. Also during the war, Austria carved out the Kingdom of Burgundy as a new vassal. In 1786, Frederick II of Prussia died. His successors had also died. William Habsburg then claimed the throne of Prussia. Austria once more gained land in 1795 when France launched a war against Austria. France was once more defeated, and land was annexed to the Austrian Netherlands and Burgundy. In 1803, Wallachia collapsed due to violent infighting and Ottoman patriotism. The following year, Wallachia was made a client state of Austria. Greece was made into a client state in 1820, following a failed war against the Russians.

In 2013, Austria is still enormous and cast a great shadow of influence over Greece and Wallachia, and the United Spains still procure great lands in the Americas.

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Discussion:

'''Did you brand Iberia as United Spains on purpose? It should be more like the Iberian empire or United Iberia.. OreoToast555(Talk)(Sandbox) 16:11, July 22, 2013 (UTC)'''


 * ​Yes. I think I read somewhere, probably Wikipedia, that only in 1718 was Spain fully centralized. From the time of Charles I around 1500 to 1718, Spain was still Castille and Aragon, except they were united under the Spanish banner. At the time, people still called it Spain, but IIRC the term 'United Spains' was popular as well. Cookiedamage (talk) 16:23, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Legend of Charles V - Mscoree


World Map in the year 1800 AD.

Charles I, son of Philip the Fair was crowned on 28 June 1519, ruling over the Habsburg Monarchy, the Burgundian Netherlands and the Crowns of Castile and Aragon. Charles I ruled over Castile, Leon and Aragon, making him the first King of Spain, and Spain's overseas colonies. Charles I placed his brother, Ferdinand I in charge of his Habsburg territory, who would marry Anne of Bohemia and Hungary in 1521, adding Bohemia, Hungary, Moravia, Silesia, and Lusatia to his domain. Ferdinand would also be tasked with controlling the Spanish Americas, using a less aggressive, less resource intensive policy. Less attention was given torward the Americas, leading to a slower growth in the colonies, but more resources were availalbe in Iberia and the Lowlands to put down rebellions and continental wars. Charles' son, Philip II would unite Portugal and Spain through dynastic union.

During the Thirty Years War the Habsburgs fought against the French, Swedish, and other nations. The Imperial army, which was expanded and upgraded far greater, managed to secure a victory at the Battle of Wittstock, pushing back the Swedish. The French military efforts failed, and the Spanish invaded France through the southern border. The veterans of the engagement with the Swedish were ordered to invade France through the north, defeating Bernhard of Saxe-Weimar at Compiègne and occupying much of France. The Thirty Years War ended with a close Habsburg victory, curtailing the influence of the Bourbons. With France weakened no one contested Austria's influence in Italy, leading to vassalage across the peninsula.

After the successful Great Turkish War the nation of Austria annexed lands across Hungary and the Balkans, pushing the Ottomans from Vienna. France would also loose influence in Spain, leading to the continuation of Habsburg Spain. After the Seven Years War the nation of Great Britain was forced to cede its colonies south of New Netherlands, including Virginia and the few English settlements in the Carolinas. Over the next few decades Austria would continue to influence European affairs, becoming the dominant German state, even in the north. After a few decisive wars in the late 1800's against Prussia and the northern Prussian vassals, Denmark, and France, respectively, Austria formed Großdeutsche (Greater Germany), encompassing all of the German lands in Europe.



Discussion

Let me know what you think. Mscoree (talk) 23:07, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Looks very professional. Will probably win my vote.

23:39, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Votes
 * ChrisL123 (talk) 05:51, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Edboy452 (talk) 23:36, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * [[Image:1.png|23px]] Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:42, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Habsburgs Revival
Basically, is this where the Habsburgs become more powerful after gaining the Mexican empire?

Habsburg Empires - Sine Dei Gloriem






POD: the Fourth Crusade is lead by a Habsburg family member, and the current Duke of Austria. As in OTL, a coup d'etat occurs and the crusaders sacked the city, but instead of becoming the Latin Empire, it became the Empire of Romania under control of the son of the duke, that had proven in a decisive battle against the Nicaean Empire  to be the best ruler of the Romanian Empire. It was in 1215 with the last war with the Nicaean when this is proven as the Palaiologos armies are destroyed and after 1217 some lands are recovered from the Turks, being given to the Greek Komnenian and Palaiologos monarchs, as a buffer state in its most part. After the POD the French and the Austrian coordinate crusade against the Emirate of Tunisia hoping to get a hold out of Christendom in Africa successfully taking Tunisia by 1260, forming the First Kingdom of Carthage ever since the fall of the Vandal kingdom, it was under French ruling until the mysterious death of the Capet monarchy in 1321 the Austrian Monarchy continues rising, in 1300 most of the German southern Duchies including Bavaria and even the Swiss confederacy became part of the Austrian kingdom, in 1312 the HRE became for the first time under Austrian direct ruler,

the Romanian Empire was for the first time invaded by the Ottomans, who had focused their growth in Central Anatolia and later the Northern Levant until then, the armies  swarmed the Anatolian possessions, taking Nicaea and Smyrna as soon as the war started, by 1359 the Ottomans had taken most of Anatolia and were invading Southern Greece, Lydia the only Greek noble kingdom in Anatolia only held its existence due to the vassalage offer by the several Ottoman rulers and its armies that were prepared to protect the nation from Turkish invasions. By 1396 most of Greece and Bulgaria is under Ottoman control, even Constantinople was almost at hands of the Ottomans, but the Emperor Francis I launched his own invasion after the Pope had agreed on starting a new crusade, but it was not only Germany, it was France, Spain and Aragon nations that had become Habsburg after the foundation of the Romanian Empire, the Ottoman advance into Europe was destroyed as in the Battle of Smyrna the Ottoman fleet was defeated and Antiochia was taken allowing the entrance of a dual campaign at Ottoman Anatolia prompting the return of the Ottoman armies in the Balkans to Anatolia, the last crusade ended in 1405 the war ended, with the Ottoman withdrawal of Western Anatolia and the Balkans, the title of Being the true successors of Rome was taken by the Austrian Habsburg family. Soon Venice was invaded by Austria, the defeat of Venice began the initiation of the Italian Hegemony of Austria and the Beginning of a golden era for the HRE as it begin the reunification of Germany and re-imposition of German rulling over italy,

By 1435 Granada is taken by a coalition of armies, as Austria, Aragon, France and Spain begin the invasion, ending with the last holding of Islam in Europe, for the first time. Ever since the fall of Rome most of the Mediterranean was Christian. By 1491, Columbus seeks for funding a travel to India through the Atlantic. However, most of the European monarchs (either Habsburg or their own monarchy) refused as there was no major need. However, Charles X of France agreed on giving him his travel as he thought that he could either gain anything, prestige or power both useful and needed. Soon France gained control of much of the Americas, the Incas falled to the French by 1519 and the Aztecs by 1524 ,The America's territory was divided between the several new nations in 1530 after most of the coastal regions of the Atlantic were mapped already, The Roman Kingdom, Founded in 1507 after the Son of the Pope Alexander VI, Giovanni Borgia is crowned as King of Rome after assuring its control on Naples and the Papal States. England backed this as the fears of a Habsburg war against was on the rising, he soon invaded Carthage, that was declining in front of the Ottomans and the Muslims from the Sahara, the Borgian Dynasty arose, Russia begin the expansion towards Tartaria and its attempts at securing the Samii territory. in 1600 the Convulsion began to occur as the Habsburg Spania, began to face the new threats, from revolts and other events, the colonial holds outs made by Spania in Nueva Leon (Florida) and Nueva Granada (Venezuela) where growing and thriving, but France was  the most succesfull, gaining the gold and power of the Incas, by 1725 France entered into civil war, Falling into the Hands of Revolution as Bourbon and Auvergne monarchs begin a Coup d'etat Against Henry XV succeding but causing occupation from the Germans,Venetians and Spanish, only Brittany and Paris were still under French ruling thanks to the Intervention of Britain favouring the Bourbon and Auvergne, in 1750 the Occupation of France ended as a Revolution occurred claiming for the First time the Republic of France, the French advance took Burgundy and Valonia to France, Forming the Gaul republic of France, and Keeping the empire, which followed the same idealist path. The British-backed war ended with the Ceeding of Nova Corsica by the Venetians to the British forming the Colony of New South Lincoln, Oceania is discovered by 1780 starting a new colonialist campaign at Australia.

Its in 1793 when the first Rhenish war occurs when the Rhineland province is invaded by a joint coalition of German, Spanish and Venetian forces after declaring war to France, the war makes the countries that although being heavily powerful, are unable to fight the extended French empire, but in the Americas uprisings occur through all of the French Americas igniting in 1794 the Nouvelle Aquitaine Revolt (In OTL Colombia) soon most of the French Territories by 1820 after the end of the Several Revolts, after the decisive success of the Republic of Nouveau Paris (Quebec) in 1815 ending with the French revolts at America, dividing the Empire into several smaller states such as the Mexican Republic,The Cascadian Republic and the Mayan Republic in North America The Federation of New Aquitaine, the Peruvian Empire and the Pacific Republic, in South America,

the rest of the nations begin their own process of independence later, such as New England in 1834 forming the Federation of New England and later the Federated States of America, British Canada in 1837 Forming the Lawrentian Republic, The German Neu Wienn forming the Republic of New Deutschesland, in 1853 and the Polish New Lithuania forming the Republic of New Lithuania in 1844, The Spanish Colony of Nueva Leon declared its independence by 1875, after the Spaniard Civil war Along with Parts of Nueva Granada, Reaching its independence later that decade by 1879 with the end of the civil war and the depletion of the Spanish Military. Nuova Roma Was The second Colony to declare independence declaring its full indepence in 1795 realizing that the Kingdom of Rome was forced to join the side of the Carthaginian, French and British, after the war ended the Roman Kingdom continuously tried to recover their main colony but Where Unable, Loosing their colony in the Americas they turned their Eyes into East Asia, and began their trading empire and Colonization of Australia along with the British and French as well as the Carthaginian.

The Venetian Monarchy faced the Same Issue as the Lost of their Colony in South America Yielded Nuova Venexia as their Main Colony, But the war only caused high taxation and the fact of the lack of almost any freedom in the empire caused the resent of the Colonials which in 1815 started the Civil war and by 1823 the Independence was Reached by the new Venetians, The Romanian Monarchy faced the same issue as Nea Constantinoupolis Declared Indepence From them by 1845 During the War With Russia (That Wanted to retake constantinople for Orthodox Hands) and the Invasion of the Ottoman Caliphate.

However the Downfall of the Empires didn't meant the end of the Colonialism in The Americas Was Complete as Nya Daneland (OTL Canada) Remained loyal to the Danish Crown and The Colony of Haraldsland (OTL Patagonia), Same occurred to sweden in south america with Eriksland under the control of the Swedish until the late 1950 When it became a Autonomous Territory, Yet by 1861 the North american Swedish colonies declared independence as Nya Vinland..

The Nations divide further until reaching their Final Configuration by 1979 with the end of the Carthaginian Civil War that ended the Egyptian Occupation of Leptis Magna and Byzacena.



The East Asian Map is very different from ours China is Less extended,Tibet is independent although in the leaning of the Chinese Empire,So is burma, and Several Small Warlords on Indochina, Siam Dominated Over the Khmers and the Spanish Held Control of Vietnam, and Continue controlling the Philippines, Taiwan (San Juan De Cipango) Hainan ( San Fernando del Oriente) and Papua or the Guinee of the East (Guineas e Indias del Oriente)

Ireland Dominated the Trading of part of the Indonesian Islands Sharing its control with the Roman Kingdom and Later Republic, Japan Took the Control of Korea to China and Some Islands from Spain, after the Early reunification in 1598 after a Failed Spanish Incursion, with the Intention of Making a Stronghold to take Later China ( With Aid of Germany, Hungary,Romania, France and Venice).

India was stronger and held out the Spanish, British and French and instead form their own nation after the Collapse of the “Mahabaratha” Empire as Called due to its Centralization around the ideas of the Mahabaratha and the Baghabad Gita, Its Only Threatened by the Persian Shi'a Caliphate but in the end the Indian Lands remain independent. Africa's Colonialism Starts in 1820, Earlier as result of the French Civil Wars and the Spanish Loss of Money, this is, in the end what Drives Spain into the Status of World power by 2013 as they conquer most of the African Territories by 1850 and Held it Until 2012 due to the Power of the New Spanish Imperial Army

Spain and the Habsburg Monarchy is again on its peak, ( The Habsburg Being on its Peak by 1650 – 1740 with the French Habsburgs ) and Most if not all the Nations are either Colonies or Protectorates of Spain.



Discussion

-Thoughts on this? Sine dei gloriem (talk)

Votes


 * -Kogasa [[Image:Miko THPW2.png|50px]] [[Image:Flag of Europe.svg|23px|border]] 2013 August 04, 15:00 (CET)
 *  Reximus   <font color="#FF0000" face="Sans-Serif" title="Talk">Maximus  13:08, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Map Contest 3 (Pending): An Unlikely Union
<p style="margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;">PoD: Two nations merge into one, forging a global empire.

Challenge: Create a map of the world in which two nations have united and taken on the world. This challenge is deliberately open-ended, so use your imagination. Make sure that you are plausible.

Time Frame: Two weeks, July 4 - August 17
 * Voting Starts August 17, 0:00 UTC

Old Yuanxian and Shoutoku Legend -Kogasa
In this timeline, the Song Dynasty and the Heian Era Japan unite after the marriage of and.

King of the Hill
You guys are awesome. There are some great scenarios here, and I'm really glad y'all are getting into them. Before I open up voting, I want some feedback first. What I want to know is: Thanks for the participation. I changed the formatting of the page a bit, which should make it easier to edit. If you haven't entered your submission, feel free to do that now. Voting will be up tomorrow around 0:00 UTC. CourageousLife (talk) 05:45, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Was this a reasonable amount of time for the contest?
 * Do you guys want to just submit anytime, not just 24 hours before voting?
 * Any other comments or suggestions?

The amount of time was good. I'd support submitting anytime, so as to allow others who haven't submitted to a particular scenario still can, even if it's over. -Kogasa  2013 July 19, 13:35 (CET)


 * I agree with the above.


 * 21:04, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * The only foreseeable problem with this is complications with archiving contests, which I had planned to do. CourageousLife (talk)
 * I can archive. Just tell me when voting is done.
 * 22:05, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Long story short, I hate figuring out UTC time. I'm opening up voting now.

Also, how do you guys feel about a Victory Gallery of sorts? The winning map of each contest displayed somewhere on the page? Any thoughts? Hmm? CourageousLife (talk) 21:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * How about we just put up each winning map at the top of the page until the next winner is announced?


 * 22:05, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Also, I hope we have a Napoleonic contest or something.

22:07, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll definitely take that into consideration ;) CourageousLife (talk) 22:10, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still readying up my map (there is another hour and 33 minutes when I post this). :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:27, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Could we get an extra day, please! Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:49, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Scan said he needed an extra day, so that's no problem. Just make sure you get it in soon, because voting is open, so you might not get as many votes as you could. Good luck! CourageousLife (talk) 00:07, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Voting will remain open indefinitely, since there will be some late entries. However, a new contest will be up in a few hours. CourageousLife (talk) 15:32, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'm also adding a comments section under each entry so everyone can give feedback. CourageousLife (talk) 17:16, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

I am almost done with my map, so can I have a few more hours? Bfoxius (talk) 21:50, July 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. I modified the rules a bit, since there were several people who needed more time. You can post anytime, but voting can still start, meaning you might not get as many votes. CourageousLife (talk) 23:36, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

I would really like to find out what this second contest is about so I can get started. ;)

22:13, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Can I have some more time to label my map? I already have everything but that. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:49, July 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Again, yes. Take what time you need. CourageousLife (talk) 02:17, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

The House of Habsburg
I seem to be having trouble coming up with a rough timeline for the second contest (Habsburgian history is fairly complicated, and my original idea of a Habsburg personal union with France didn't turn out so well). Are we allowed to have a shared entry, where two participants work together on a map and a timeline? If not, I think I'll sit this one out :P. ChrisL123 (talk) 00:15, July 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * A shared entry would be fine, as long as both participants are credited. CourageousLife (talk) 15:21, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

I think a Hapsburg union with France is semi-feasible. The Bourbons traced back somewhere to the Hapsburgs. Or you could just have a Hapsburg Germany (with Austria) or Hapsburg Spain, or both.

00:18, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Voting for The House of Habsburg is now open! CourageousLife (talk) 05:00, August 3, 2013 (UTC)