Talk:United States (Russian America)

Footnotes for Yankee97
As for a quick rundown of the US's alternate history. The US (reluctantly) leaves the Oregon Country for the Brits and Ruskies to fight over. Despite a new player coming into the area, the Americans quickly establish positive relations with the Russian Empire (seeing them as a counterbalance against British dominance).

With the Russian Empire and a Russian-aligned Mexican Empire controlling the Pacific, any idea of westward effectively dies. Instead, the US looks north and south as part of. The still takes place. Rather than having their biggest allies fight over the territory, the Russians (more or less) steps in and persuades Mexico to sell (most of) Texas to the US, which they eagerly pay up. Texas may be admitted into the Union earlier, hence why it'd admitted as two states (not enough time to form a unified identity).

With the Texas Crisis now over, the US now looks towards and the ongoing. The US becomes far more active there and the Canadas win their independence. Upper Canada (Ontario) is admitted into the US, while Lower Canada (Quebec) becomes an American-backed, French-speaking republic. Canada (as we know it) is made up of two nations: Acadia and Borealia.

The Civil War still takes place (Southern nationalism and all). The British might be more compelled to support the Confederacy after loosing Canada, but the Russians curtail this by outright siding with the Union (never viewing the Confederacy as anything more than a rebellion). The Russians actually did this OTL, but now that they have a sizable presence on the continent, they can easily get involved if needed. The Civil War effectively follows the same timeline as OTL (since most of the fighting was within what would remain the US).

Shortly after the war, the US moves to annex the. The US (under Grant) was very close to doing this OTL. With "Seward's Folly" never taking place, annexing the nation may be more appetizing. (see Haiti:0:0). The US would still take, , the , and following the Spanish-American War. The main difference would be the positions of Cuba and the Philippines are swapped. The US moves to completely annex Cuba, while the Philippines are made into an American puppet state ( and all). When the US succeed in liberating, Theodore Roosevelt sees a huge opportunity and opts to completely annex Panama. This would give the US what they've always wanted: a coast on the Pacific. Haiti is simply annexed during the American occupation of OTL (just because).

The US still gets into World War I and the Great Depression still takes place. Though they are not directly attacked, the US get involved in World War II anyway (FDR desperately wanted to assist the British and French, Pearl Harbor just gave him the excuse to accelerate the go ahead). The Pacific War is butterflied away, but the US does assist Japan against an Axis China. The US may also drop the bomb on China both to end the war and as a deterrent against Soviet and Japanese expansion.

The rest of the US' history is up in the air. What I'm currently working on (which has become headcanon for me) is that Alaska and the US co-operate during the early Cold War. The US secretly begins to arm Alaska with nukes, which the Soviets discover. Since the USSR has no international justification to do what the US did in OTL (Cuban Missile Crisis), Khrushchev instead makes these nukes known to the whole world and plays the "we are surrounded by American nukes" card (which they were). The Soviets threaten to attack if these nukes remain in Alaska, resulting in the Alaskan Missile Crisis and the threat of World War III. The US removes these nukes (along with others in Europe) in a deal with the USSR (on par with OTL). I'm also very interested in that as a result of the crisis (or rather as a result of hysteria and a heightened state of armed conflict) that the actually results in the US accidentally nuking North Carolina. This would not result in a 1983: Doomsday situation, rather just an embarrassment for the US and another push for Alaska to become neutral during the Cold War. Would also make the overall makeup of North Carolina and Virginia very different from OTL.

It should also be noted that the Vietnam War will be butterflied away (most likely becoming Japan's headache). One possibility I have to "remedy" this (if you want to call it that) is that the snowballs into a Vietnam-like war ATL. I'm still playing around with the idea, but I'm not too sure if it's possible. For now, let's just say that this will be the Vietnam-equivalent (with the added bonus of African Americans having to fight against actual Africans and making the protests and Civil Rights Movement more interesting).

In regards to the Civil Rights Movement, the absence of Earl Warren would be a major loss, but likely not the end. I'm all open for any suggestions. I'm also very open to the notion of Haiti:0:0 (ATL) becoming the "African American Haven" that the Radical Republicans originally wanted.

Please note that these are all notes and can be easily rewritten if need be. I hope they were fun to read and helpful for you. -- 02:44, March 21, 2016 (UTC)