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Battle of Earth Revised?
Hey, you and I both enjoy the Battle of Earth Map game and it would appear that Crimson Assassin is either unable or unwilling to continue the game. So I was thinking that we make a new version with more dedicated mods, namely us. I also thought of a few changes that we could add, most of which I have listed below. if you can think of anymore changes that we should do, it would be appreciated. Monster Pumpkin 02:35, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is now easier to become mods, but applicants still need backround checks to root out any implausible people.
 * Unique abilities are not invincible, as that is incredibly unlikely.
 * More strengths and weaknesses available, but I can only think of one, so if you could help naming some that would be great.

I think you are right on those parts. Can't have races that we can't reach, right? About the destruction of celestial objects, I think that only asteroids or smaller should be destroyed, as I can't think of any realistic reason a race would destroy a planet. If you could think of any other strengths or weaknesses, that would be appreciated. Monster Pumpkin 03:04, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I did surprise you. :) I'm a bit annoyed about the strength and weaknesses, as i thought of a bunch, but then forgot them. Oh well, I'll think of them later. I'll probably make the game tomorrow, as I don't have time to do it tonight. You will be a mod, of course! Monster Pumpkin 03:10, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if I will be on at that time, as I have school tomorrow. How about 3:30 Eastern time? I should be on at that time. Monster Pumpkin 03:18, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Of course! The Dravimos will return and be better than ever! Since the POD will still be the same, what race should have the spacecraft crash into Mars? Monster Pumpkin 03:24, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I was floating around and decided to chirp in. I'll try to bring the game back to life if not help it limp along to 2012 or the destruction of Earth. Whichever comes first. CrimsonAssassin 03:38, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, that works. Monster Pumpkin 03:45, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Are you actually online? Monster Pumpkin 20:37, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Lol. Are you ready to restart Battle For Earth? I have a glactic map already made, as well as some other ideas for the game. Monster Pumpkin 19:10, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Could I join Battle for Earth Revised? SPQR 17:30, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Human Evolution: The Third Game!
Have you joined yet? The game should have been started at 12:00, and nobody has claimed Australopitheucs afarensis yet. I noticed you haven't signed anywhere, so I'm going to ask you to be Australopitheucs afarensis. Please? If you don't, then the map game will be unable to begin and a lot of people will be confused. I don't want to hold the game. This is your last chance to join! SPQR 17:26, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

HE3
THe game is now going on. Bobalugee1940 13:47, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Joint Timeline?
I noticed your blog post, and I must admit that we have some of the same interests. So I was thinking we coult both do a timeline together.

Some of the things I was thinking: If you agree to those ideas or have others in mind, please tell me. Unfortunatly, I likely won't be able to reply as I have to go after this message. Monster Pumpkin 19:42, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Jupiter forms a greater distance from the sun, so the asteroid belt is able to form 3-4 planets.
 * 2) Merging in the Kuiper belt also happens to a greater extent, so that Pluto is larger and maybe another planet forms as well.
 * 3) Earth may have another moon, and Venus may have one as well.
 * 4) Maybe another planet in between Saturn and Jupiter? I can explain that later, but I cannot right now.
 * 5) Earth has more continents.

Well, now that I am back online, this is what I was thinking... These are just my thoughts on what could have happened. Of course, that may not be what happens in our timeline. I just noticed that we would have 16 Planets if that were the case! Anyway, give me your thoughts. Monster Pumpkin 21:30, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Planets in the Sol System
 * Vulcan
 * Mercury
 * Venus
 * Some mooon, haven't thought of a proper name yet. Neith sounds too...different.
 * Earth/Terra/Tellus
 * Moon/Luna
 * Another moon, named Aurora, after the Roman goddess of Dawn.
 * Several other continents that never came be or were mythical.
 * Mars
 * Phobos
 * Deimos
 * Ceres
 * Minerva
 * Vesta
 * Juno
 * Hebe
 * Jupiter
 * Countless moons, but maybe less than OTL.
 * Another planet? See this.
 * Saturn
 * Same old moons, but maybe with Charon added.
 * Uranus/Caelus
 * Same moons.
 * Neptune
 * Same Moons
 * Pluto
 * Same four moons, but with slightly different names
 * Another planet maybe...

Personally, I don't think the pattern matters, although I do like Caelus better. This way, no one can make fun of the planet. In regards to Proserpina, I was thinking that Charon could be called that, as Proserpina wasn't a major goddess. Also, doubtfull that this wouldn't be ASB in some way. What are your thoughts on the rest? Monster Pumpkin 21:46, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

I see where you are going with Diana, but in my mind, I was thinking that the planet outside of Pluto would be called Diana, as it would be very cold there, and that would fit her personality very well. I like Aurora better, as in mythology, Aurora was the sister of Luna and Sol.

I do read Greek mythology from time to time, and I have read the Percy Jackson series, just not for some time. They are a good series though. Monster Pumpkin 21:57, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Iapetus (or however you spell it) is already a moon of Saturn. Maybe we could reach a neutral ground, and either not have a planet there or have it undiscovered? Monster Pumpkin 22:08, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

I like the idea of Eros/Cupid, although the asteroid Eros would have to be renamed. Naming the moon Aphrodite seems a bit...redundant to me, but either way, it works. Since we are planning (at least I think) Venus to be less chaotic, what climate do you think it would have? And another thing: I was thinking that they could have discovered the planet outside of Pluto, but they just haven't given it a name yet. Monster Pumpkin 22:17, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, Eros probably would not exist. So, according to my count, we would have 15 planets. Is that right? Monster Pumpkin 22:46, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

This is what I was thinking with the new planets and such. About Venus: I think it would be more habitable, but not have life on it. How large were you thinking the moon was?
 * 1) Vulcan
 * 2) Mercury
 * 3) Venus
 * 4) Terra
 * 5) Mars
 * 6) Ceres
 * 7) Minerva
 * 8) Vesta
 * 9) Juno
 * 10) Jupiter
 * 11) Saturn
 * 12) Caelus
 * 13) Neptune
 * 14) Pluto
 * 15) X199624 "Planet X"

About Earth/Terra: What other continents should there be?

About the Name: I was thinking something like "Greater Sun", but in Latin. I'm really not good with names, so if you can think of something better, we'll go by that. Monster Pumpkin 23:27, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

While I get your point with Icarus, he just wasn't a god, and by the time Vulcan would have been discovered they probably wouldn't change that.

What gas planet are you refering to again? If it is the one in between Saturn and Jupiter, if Jupiter was pushed slightly further out it defititly wouldn't be there. My mistake.

I personally like the idea of 4 asteroid planets, but that might be impossible, but I doubt it, as they are farther away from each other. We can figure that part out after we make the timeline.

I like the second name. We can use that if you don't mind. Monster Pumpkin 23:27, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm plannig for Juno and Vesta to be planets, not moons. About the size, maybe the size of Io or Callisto, not larger. If Juno and Vesta were planets, then even smaller. As I said, we can discuss this some other time, as I have to go right now. But good work on everything else! :) Monster Pumpkin 23:35, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, I like it. Before I go, here is a theoretical map of the inner solar system as I see it. Hope you enjoy it! Monster Pumpkin 23:50, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Could I PLEASE join in? I really like ideas involving hypothetic solar-systems!! :D Imperium Guy 23:53, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I have a little experience with Tls with a somehow Alternate solar system (See: Arrival, Red Sun, Venusian Haven). :P Imperium Guy 15:47, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I think that Vulcan could just be a planetoid whioch migrated really close to the sun and over time grows bigger.

If there is going to be an Artica. you might want to have all the continenets a bit more south so that there is enough space for ships to move around. I think that Greenland would be a much bigger landmass and that could be your Artica.

ASB qualifier: ASB-Environmental

BTW, whose creating the portal page, should it be me? :D Imperium Guy 09:12, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Nice, and its ok, I'll wait for the portal page to be set up. :D Imperium Guy 21:34, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

I like it! Just a few questions and suggestions for you to read! Just a few ideas/questions. Please let me know if you have any others! Monster Pumpkin 23:46, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) About Artica, we could name it Thule instead, as that was a theorized continent/island to the North. Or we could name it Hyperborea, a similar hypothetical continent.
 * 2) What mass forms Aether? And what happened to Ceres!? :O
 * 3) Interesting idea with Aurora/Diana, and that might work. Although I would doubt that they would name such a small object after one of the great Olympians.
 * 4) Another idea that Imp suggested. Because Jupiter forms further out, Titan is ejected from its orbit and becomes a planet.

Lol Percy Jackson. :)

About Aether: I think it's just my obssesive idealism, but for some reason I just don't like its name. Maybe that's because he wasn't a major god, but I really don't know. I might just have to suck it up and deal with it though.

About Titan: I don't know what it would be called. Maybe Bacchus after the blue glow in its upper atmosphere?

Another thought: Since it would be very difficult to observe all of these objects in detail without going into the future, we might want to have a "world hyperpower" that survived and after securing itself from any earthly nieghbors decided to explore space. We could go with the overused classics like the Third Reich, the Roman Empire, or an expansionist America. Or we could go with something completly new. Just a thought.

Monster Pumpkin 00:12, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

About Aether: See, that's the problem. Your idea makes complete sense, and yet part of me doesn't like it. I think your best bet here would be to either make it canon right away so I can't dispute it, or consider my incredibly radical idea below:

I know that this might be crazy, but what if we divide Aether into two planets after a large collision that forms into a double planet system. One is named Phoebius after Apollo, and the other is named Diana after Artemis. The my obsession of having a planet for each Roman god is completed, you get Diana, and we have another planetary system. The only downside is that Planet X might not have to exist with more mass in the inner system.

I know it's crazy, and I don't expect you to like it. Just an interesting idea, mind, as it is already an ASB timeline, lol.

About Titan: Somewhere definitely past Saturn or Caelus's orbit.

I was considering Alexander's Empire surviving, but then they wouldn't have Roman names. I think your idea is best, although I have to go for now. We should make the portal and possible additions tonight if possible.

Also, should we make this an open for contribution timeline?

Monster Pumpkin 00:49, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

I thought I was leaving, but I have time for one last comment.

I doubt that Vulcan would be discovered by the Ancients, as the Sun would probably blot it out in the sky.

When something is ASB, the limits are pretty small. Some examples are White Star Jupiter and Hitler's Almost Immortal. Look them up and you will see what I mean.

About Aether: I'm not saying that they would be very huge. Probably the size of Saturn's Rhea or smaller.

I was thinking tha Bacchus was in between Caelus and Neptune, but that's just me.

A new idea with Pluto and Planet X: OTL Pluto, Makemake, Orcus, Quaror, and 2007 OR10 form ATL Pluto, while Sedna, Eris, Haumea, and some other stuff form Planet X. What do you think?

Monster Pumpkin 01:24, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I just went over our conversation, and it appeared to me that I kept replacing your ideas with mine. If that was the case, then I am sorry. If you want to, we can try to go with your idea instead.

Should we start this tonight? If so we might be able to get a few articles in for Imp to review tomorrow.

I realize that I didn't answer your question. I live in Pennsylvania. :) Monster Pumpkin 03:05, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

If you want, you could have sole authority over planets or anything that were your idea, like the new Venus, Mars's other moon, and other things.

Yep, I live in Pennsylvania. :)

Monster Pumpkin 03:11, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. When do you expect to have the portal up? Monster Pumpkin 03:20, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Lol. Then let's get started! :D Monster Pumpkin 03:31, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Em, that seems like a worthy goal, lol. I call the middle solar system at least, lol. Also, I do agree with you on Zealandia, but could we have an east-west name difference for Keregulan? Also, where in the Indian Ocean did you plan on putting it? Monster Pumpkin 17:03, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

A bit different from OTL, then. That works. I know you are going to hate me for this, but the Old World would likely call it Lemuria, as that is more or less exactly where it would be.

About the history of Keregulan/Lemuria, an Indian/Hindu civilization could form there before the Europeans arrive, as that was part of Indian myth. In this it could have actually happened.

So if I'm right, here are all the continents on Terra/Earth: Is that right?
 * The orginal seven
 * Hyperborea
 * A small-medium sized island named Thule, maybe the site of a Nordic kingdom at one point.
 * Zealandia
 * Keregulan/Lemuria

Monster Pumpkin 17:14, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about the images, I've got that covered.

I like the modern Thule idea, but how about this backstory:

Eric the Red discovered Thule and established a Viking Colony that remained until Thule gained its independence from Sweden/Denmark/Norway in the late 19th century.

Eric's son Lief Ericsson sailed north and unintentionally discovered Hyperborea, but was unable to establish a permanent colony because of the climate and hostile native Hyperboreans. He named the land Greenland to attract settlers, which never came to fruition. In mainland Europe, it was called Hyperborea after the mythological continent in Ancient Greek Culture. The name stuck ever since.

Monster Pumpkin 17:29, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

I have this program on my computer called Celestia, which is a program that lets a user view planets and other such objects. I downloaded a mod for it that added several hypothetical Solar System objects like Vulcan, Neith, Planet X, etc. The only problem is that it does not do atmosphere's really well, so I might need your help on that. The rest I can do.

Also, do you have a map of the world ready to go? And should we start creating the articles now?

Monster Pumpkin 17:47, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll start the middle solar system. Endor looks fine.

To get Celestia just google it and you can probably find it for download.

I can get the images for the middle solar system, but if you find anything better, let me know.

Monster Pumpkin 18:00, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Let Venus have small marine life, it won't really change anything and will only make the planet more interesting. And with microscopic and biological life, the planet's surface will still look green and with oceans!! :P Imperium Guy 18:21, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

That is quite a good idea, but I think it should be (just slightly) lusher and a few more lakes. But the page for tatooine in wookipedia shows that it is fit for human habitation!! :D Imperium Guy 18:48, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

I am taking the darker patches on Tatooine (Venus) are oceans which are darker looking due to atmospheric colour/sand. (Eros looks nice) :D Imperium Guy 19:27, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized!! ;P Imperium Guy 19:36, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean by countries exactly? :D Imperium Guy 19:41, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I thought that the middle Solar system was my responsibility. So, unless you mind, I will get the images for them. Also, I thought that Eros was like the moon, with little atmosphere.

Since I brought this up, I thought I might just show you the same objects in Celestia.

I will get them up for you to see!

About the Human nations, I was thinking that when you make the Earth map, we all make suggestions and then either vote a winner or combine our ideas. What do you think? Monster Pumpkin 20:13, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

I have now completed the map I have promised. Here it is:

Wait a sec, there seems that the landmasses have the boundaries on them. I wonder how?  ;) BTW, tell me if you don't like the landmasses. I have tried to make them look as realistic as possible, except in the Philipines where I have deliberately merged the islands so travelling could be easier (a small butterfly effect!). :D Imperium Guy 21:52, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

DD Edits
Some were corrections, others were not - you did actually put in some mistakes, and "corrected" some things that had actually been right. Around a quarter of them are things needing to be undone, which is better than average.

As for the spellings.... SS, if you don't know something, ask before doing it next time. You do not change such spellings, for the record.

And, I noted on a blog post you said something about moving onto the badge leaderboard... that's because you just did many edits to articles in the main DD category, and got several badges out of the deal.

Lordganon 06:41, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

More than 10, lol.

Yeah, a message pops up at some point telling you about it. Really easy to miss.

Don't worry about it, SS. I know you're trying to help, lol.

Lordganon 06:49, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

"Listening" works more than well enough, lol.

Yeah, if you can't see that message, the badges one won't pop up, either.

Lordganon 07:17, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

i need your help on the map game organization page. please help me with it and just post your thoughts on the page or its talk page. DeanSims 19:20, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

to create a "goverment for the many map games on this wiki and there affiliated pages. it would be a democratic system relativly free of admin control DeanSims 19:24, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

it would still be under TSPTF control but would allow the users of the games to talk about probelms on the map games and take care of them without having to run to the admins every time thers a problem. DeanSims 19:30, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

we have the forge and Dr Device. DeanSims 19:34, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.
I just wanted to say thanks for correcting my spelling errors on one of my articles. It is hard to figure out how to spell somthing that you don't know, 'cause you definitly can't google it. TacoCopper

I'll join it. However, if I don't post in the first few turns, I am probably just at Camp for the week and will be back and (hopefully) won't have any futher interruptions.TacoCopper

Okay. Also, funny you offer me modship, 'cause I asked for it on the map game.TacoCopper

Okay, I will pick Italy then.TacoCopper

Woohoo! I get to vote! Anyways, I say that we let him, but just keep a close eye for plausiblities. TacoCopper

Welcome. Kinda funny, now that I look at it, a simple thank you note turned into an full on conversation.TacoCopper

So, whats the weather like where you live.TacoCopper

Okay. I didn't even know there was a live chat. Anyways, I will se you there.TacoCopper

NE
Sorry i cannot do that, you are a massive nation, i am small. Sorry i cant afford to lose land. Bobalugee1940 21:20, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

States of America 5
Still need some imput for the map CourageousLife  00:19, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me.
Thanks for informing me about the map game. And yes, I'm trying to get out of the habit of those little edits, making more sweeping edits by section. I have a bit of Grammar Nazi in me.

Thanks again,

SpanishSpy 01:12, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Cripplation
I have crippled your name a bit, because it was a bit too long :) Doctor261  (Talk to Doctor261) 05:24, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again for joining Medieval Plague. The game has started, and you may now take an action. Doctor261 ''' (Talk to Doctor261) 08:53, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

MaxSysa
What do you exactly mean? I am a bit confused. :/ Imperium Guy 19:43, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I was talking about landmasses. For countries, I would need a brief history of how every thing is going to turn out. BTW, the Tatooine picture was the main picture for the Tatooine article link you posted me!! :D Imperium Guy 19:46, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

I know the perfect map, but it won't have Antartica on it! :/ Imperium Guy 19:51, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Oh wait, spoke too soon. It will have Antartica, but it will be flat!! :/ Imperium Guy 19:54, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Its a work it progress, but I think making Greenland Larger might be a bit of a problem! :D Imperium Guy 20:09, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

It's fine. The lava plains would be solid by now, similar to the moon's mare. Monster Pumpkin 20:21, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Here are Vulcan and Eros according to Celestia. The image you used for Vulcan looks fine. Eros might have to be changed. Monster Pumpkin 20:25, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

How large is it supposed to be? And should it have such a thick atmosphere like OTL Venus? I'm sorry if this is annoying you, but I just want to make sure. Monster Pumpkin 20:33, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Mimas would work, the only problem I see with it is that the crater is too recognizable. Maybe Enceladus?

Either one works, although Endor might be better, as the Methane in the system would still be in Neptune and Caelus. I'll let you choose. Monster Pumpkin 20:47, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I did. It was the easiest thing to do and it look natural. So is that ok? :/ Imperium Guy 22:15, April 21, 2012 (UTC)