1570 - 1579 Algorithms (Principia Moderni IV Map Game)

Scandinavian Involvement in the War of Austrian Succession

 * Pre-war stage
 * Burgundy and Prussia: 96.6
 * Population: 32 (burgundy) + 22 (Prussia) + 1.6 (Hansa)
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15
 * Scandinavia: 57
 * Population: 32
 * Government: 5
 * Economy: 10
 * Technology: 10
 * Battle Stage
 * Battle of Skagerrak
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 16.5
 * Navy Size: 16.5 (550)
 * Location: +3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -3
 * Scandinavia
 * Result: 3.75
 * Navy size: 2.25 (75)
 * Location: +3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -2

Result: Scandinavian fleet defeated, blockade of the Oresund and Scandinavia as a whole is established. Result: Blockade of the oresund continues.
 * Battle Stage
 * Breaking of the Oresund Blockade
 * Scandinavia
 * Navy Size:+6
 * Location: +3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder:-3
 * Result +6
 * Burgundy
 * Navy size: +6.45 (50 Burgundy + 165 Prussia = 205)
 * Location +3
 * Attrition
 * Blunder:-1
 * Result:+8.45
 * Battle stage
 * Battle outside Kiel
 * Scandinavia:
 * Navy Size:+5.1 (170 ships)
 * Location:+3
 * Attrition
 * Blunder
 * Prussia:
 * Navy size: +5.79 (193)
 * Location: +3
 * Attrition
 * Blunder:
 * Result:


 * Second Battle of the Oresund
 * Burgundy-Prussia
 * Result: 35
 * Navy size: 12 (250+150)
 * Location: 3
 * Great Admiral: 20 (Henri of Burgundy)
 * Blunder:
 * Scandinavia
 * Result: 7.59
 * Navy size: 4.59 (153)
 * Location: 3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder:


 * Third Battle of the Oresund
 * Burgundy-Prussia-Hansa
 * Result: 25.2
 * Navy size: 22.2 (100 [Burgundy] + 140 [Prussia] + 500 [Hansa])
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder:
 * Scandinavia:
 * Result:
 * Navy size: 6.21
 * Navy size: 3.21 (107)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder:


 * Final result:
 * Red Lion Alliance: 96.6 + 16.5 + 8.45 + 8.79 + 35 + 25.2 = 190.54
 * Scandinavia: 57 + 3.75 + 6 + 8.1 + 7.59 + 6.21 = 88.65

Discussion
When the hell did Scandinavia have a population of 8 million? For crying out loud here. Person67 (talk) 08:28, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Assuming Norway has a population of about 500,000. Sweden a population of about 1 million and Denmark has about 6,000,000 the most you could strech it to is 2.5 million. Person67 (talk) 09:14, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. I am that guy (talk) 18:04, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Prussian ships added with Nks approval. I am that guy (talk) 22:30, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Suppression of Singapore

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Burgundy: 42.6
 * Population: 1.6
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15
 * Singapore: 10.04
 * Population: .04
 * Government: 5
 * Economy: 5
 * Tech: 10
 * Battle stage
 * 2nd Battle of Batam
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 6.11
 * Army: 6.61 (15,000, 70 ships)
 * Location: 3.5
 * Attrition: -4
 * Blunder:
 * Singaporean Rebels
 * Result: 1.3
 * Army: .3 (1,000)
 * Location: 4
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -3

Final result: Singapore is re-conquered

First Battle of Poznan

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Bulgaria: 60.06
 * Population: 32.56 Bulgaria 6.64 million Serbia 1.5 million
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +6.5
 * Tech: 15
 * Poland: 46.08
 * Population: 20.8 5.2 million
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +5
 * Tech: +15
 * Battle stage
 * Battle of Poznan
 * Bulgaria
 * Result: 25.4
 * Army: 21.9 (73,000)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod
 * Poland
 * Result: 19.6
 * Army: 15.6 (52,000)
 * Location: 4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod

Scores:

Bulgaria: 93.46 (10%) concentration bonus

Poland: 65.68

Result: Bulgarian Victory: 142%

Casualties

Bulgaria: 7300

Poland: 7800

Second Battle of Poznan

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Bulgaria: 60.06
 * Population: 32.56 Bulgaria 6.64 million Serbia 1.5 million
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +6.5
 * Tech: 15
 * Poland: 46.08
 * Population: 20.8 5.2 million
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +5
 * Tech: +15
 * Battle stage
 * Battle of Poznan
 * Bulgaria
 * Result: 25.4
 * Army: 21.9 (73,000)
 * Location: +3.5
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod
 * Poland
 * Result: 17.26
 * Army: 13.26 (36,400)
 * Location: 4
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod

Scores:

Bulgaria: 93.46 (10%) concentration bonus

Poland: 63.34

Result: Bulgar victory 142%+147% = 289%

(Same casualty figures)

Polish fighting retreat.

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Bulgaria: 60.06
 * Population: 32.56 Bulgaria 6.64 million Serbia 1.5 million
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +6.5
 * Tech: 15
 * Poland: 46.08
 * Population: 20.8 5.2 million
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +5
 * Tech: +15
 * Battle stage
 * Battle of Poznan
 * Bulgaria
 * Result: 22.9
 * Army: 21.9 (73,000)
 * Location: +1
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod
 * Poland
 * Result:
 * Army: 11.9 (36,400)
 * Location: +1 (battle has moved from Poznan)
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod

Scores:

Bulgaria: 90.96 (10%) concentration bonus

Poland: 57.98

Final result: 156% +289% = 345%

Casualties:

Bulgaria: 4380

Poland: 10920

Polish fighting retreat.

 * Pre-War Stage
 * Bulgaria: 60.06
 * Population: 32.56 Bulgaria 6.64 million Serbia 1.5 million
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +6.5
 * Tech: 15
 * Poland: 46.08
 * Population: 20.8 5.2 million
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +5
 * Tech: +15
 * Battle stage
 * Battle of Galicia
 * Bulgaria
 * Result: 22.9
 * Army: 21.9 (73,000)
 * Location: +1
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod
 * Poland
 * Result:
 * Army: 7.62 (25,480)
 * Location: +1 (battle has moved from Poznan)
 * Attrition: N/A
 * Blunder: Mod

Scores:

Bulgaria: 91.16 (10%) concentration bonus

Poland: 54.7

Final result: 345% +166% = 511%

Casualties:

Bulgaria: 730

Poland: 12,740

Discussion
I am majorly confused by this. The algorithm clearly states: "There will be one algorithim, for every front, every year a war carries on" and this is how I've been doing all my algorithms. So how does Bulgaria get off four battles on the exact same front (note that the battles have the exact same name) within one turn? Surely, Bulgaria and Russia would take a couple of years to completely annex all of Poland. This isn't 1938.

Secondly, I'm really confused as to the numbers of soldiers being used. Bulgaria uses the same 73,000 troops for every battle against Poland, in spite of the casualties from each previous battle. Presuming Bulgaria replenishes these casualties, then in total Bulgaria and Serbia combined are feilding 145,000 troops at once (not counting the casualties at the end of every algo, as there is no need to replenish those). Now, Bulgaria and Serbia's populations combined are 8.14 million, and the algo caluclates that the maximum troops for that population for an Absolute Feudal Monarchy would be 81,400. Even then, as Bulgaria is not being invaded, there should be no reason to raise 100% of available troops.

There are other things I find odd, which I'll pass over because they don't affect the outcome as much, such as how Bulgaria and England have navies in the same sea, etc. I know that Wart made a huge blunder to backstab Bulgaria, but that doesn't justify making light work of algos that effect other people like Nk and IATG. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess  21:29, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with Nate here, the Battles of Poznan and the subsequent retreats are all on the same front, thus these battles should take place over the course of four years, not one year. 카와이카매] ([[User talk:|카와이카매talk) 04:56, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

The Algo is by battle not by front per year thats a holdover from the other algo that was not changed when Lx formatted the new algo. I have seen another formatting issues in the naval location stuff with a whole chunk missing. This is partially my fault cause when he formatted it i was dealing with some serious personal issues at the time so im going to look into fiing the other stuff in a bit if i can get the consensus needed to fix and bail on the Austria algo i also have already done.

Outside of this no i do not have 145,000 troops. My explanation of troop movement is as such. The force of 42,000 was deployed to hungary to help elizabeth and another force of 18,000 was sent through poland. This still left about 6000 troops plus another 500 from georgia who is a national friend via the orthodox league. this leaves a small but potent garrison in bulgaria which means of my raised troops (i have a large standing army due to the neighboring threats specifically being bordered by the Austro-hungarian thing, the Ottomans, and their backer the Caliphate.

So now with 42,000 in Hungary and the combined Serbo-Bulgar force doing a nice little raid into prussia consisting of roughly 30,000 troops (numbers are fuzzy it came out to total 73,000 troops raised all together for this) the Polish decided to betray me and form up at poznan. This backfired obviously and the Russians, Kievans, and myself all conducted a massive reprisal. Considering i have literally been the 100% reason Poland has survived in a noticeable state the past 60-70 years, this backstab is kind of a huge blow to my Tsar, and pretty much my entire nobility who is instrinsically connected to whatever is left of the Polish nobility after all the wars and uprisings and such. So this forced me to re-divert literally everything i had up and running to Poland and since WRTO is not exactly strategically minded he told me all his troops were in Poznan. I figured with all them in poznan and my forces able to push north through hungary i was able to surround the Polish and conduct two back to back battles with my full military strength. The third algo allowed for the mandated tactical disengage due to the 300% limit on it which caused massive casualties (which i think can reasonably be assumed were taken breaking out of the poznan encirclement). Rather than let poland live i continued on and pursued and since the Polish either run into the Kievan or Russian armies whichever direction they go means they can move at most 15-30 miles, with me in pursuit its safe to say i can engage further and just wipe them out hence two more algos all in the small space.

With the 60% rebuild of force allowed i just kept reinforcing and then i took it too far and marched on austria. So ill concede the austria algo, and move back south this next turn rather than doing all that movement in one turn like i had done

Anglo-Bulgarian naval offensive

 * Pre-war
 * Burgundy: 73
 * Population: 32
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15
 * England, Bulgaria and Iberia: 53
 * Population: 5.84 (Bulgaria) + 14 (England)= 64.64
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 12.5 ([15+20+10]/2)
 * Tech: 15


 * Battle stage
 * Battle of the Southern Bight
 * Burgundian fleet
 * Result: 20
 * Navy size: 18 (600)
 * Location: 3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -1
 * Anglo- Bulgarian- Iberian fleet
 * Result: 13.91
 * Navy size: 14.91 (497)
 * Location: 3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -4


 * Raid on the Medway
 * Pre-war
 * Burgundy: 73
 * Population: 32
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15
 * England, Bulgaria and Iberia: 89.34
 * Population: 5.84 (Bulgaria) + 45 (Iberia) =  50.84
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 17.5 ([15+20]/2)
 * Tech: 15


 * Burgundy
 * Result: 36.2
 * Navy size: 16.2 (540)
 * Location: 3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -3
 * Great Admiral: 20 (Henri, Crown Prince of Burgundy)
 * Anglo-Bulgarian Fleet
 * Result: 16.6
 * Navy size: 18.6 (420+200)
 * Location: 3
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: -5


 * Second Battle of the Southern Bight
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 36
 * Navy size: 15 (500)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -2
 * Great Admiral: 20
 * Allied fleet
 * Result: 16.81
 * Navy size: 15.81 (527)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -2


 * Battle of the Isle of Thanet
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 33.5
 * Navy size: 13.5 (450)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -3
 * Great Admiral: 20
 * Allied fleet
 * Result: 15.44
 * Navy size: 13.44 (448)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -1

Final result:
 * Burgundy: 36.2 + 20 + 73 + 36 + 33.5= 188.7
 * Anglo & Co.: 89.34 + 13.91 + 16.6 + 16.81 + 15.44= 160.56

Discussion
Approval of Great Admiral done by Scraw. I am that guy (talk) 00:30, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

You can't a great admiral unless declared in the mod events and I would judge that explorer guy you had was a great admiral so it seems like you have had 2 great admirals back to back and this one wasn't even declared in the mod events.. What the hell is this raid on Medway and why are the Iberians not counted. The Iberians come with the Bulgarians.Where does 420 and 540 ships come from. The Medway is an area in England. It is simple the Bulgarian fleet sailed around to Iberia and joined with the Bulgarian fleet where it proceeded to England. You can't sepeate the fleets. Person67 (talk) 07:28, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

From what scraw has said you can not retroactively apply your GA to this algo. 1574 and beyond only -Feud

The Iberians coming with the Bulgarians is ridiculous. The Iberians have no real cause to join the war until England is attacked, then they can claim "defending an ally" and send ships to help it. Nevertheless I can add the Iberian fleet to the Medway algo because I thought the turn had rolled over. Also, Lodewijk Bonapaart wasn't a great admiral, wtf, where did you even get that information? The 420 and 540 ships are the fleets adjusted for casualties from the Southern Bight battle. Yes the Medway is in England, that didn't stop the Dutch from doing the same thing otl. Like I said, I'll add the 200 Iberian ships to Medway. I am that guy (talk) 15:45, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

No they can join if they want. Why not? You hold the Azores you have been tense before there is reasoning for Iberia to join. Bulgaria sails past and the the Iberians join up with them because the English have already asked them for good reason because you have colonies near Iberia. I don't object to raiding you the Medway but if it's not in your turn it did not happen. Ok so he wasn't a GA but it still wasn't in last mod events although there is now a GA so for 1574 turn you can claim to have a GA but since you haven't posted a turn and nor have I you can't just attack the Medway unilaterally. Especially when I still protests of the previous batte for the Southern Bight in that Iberia is a part of it. Person67 (talk) 16:07, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

The Azores haven't been owned by Portugal in almost two hundred years, to use EUIV terms, they've lost their core on it. Once more, they could hardly be considered a core Portuguese territory when it was (it was only re-discovered a decade or so before I conquered it). So this whole "war of reconquest" over tiny Azores is ridiculous. As for the colonies, we have a treaty dividing the Caribbean between us and recognizing the others claims, there hasn't been any sort of tension in half a century. The only just reason for Portugal to join is coming to the aid of England, which it can only claim after the English fleet is attacked. To use your logic, you posted in the 1573 turn that you agreed to link up with the Bulgarian fleet (no mention of Iberians). It wasn't until hours after the battle of southern Bight algo had been put up, that you asked Iberia to join, and they sent ships. If you'd posted that you ask Iberia to send ships at the time you said you're linking up with the Bulgarians, I'd say you have a case. I am that guy (talk) 16:27, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

It's all the same turn, everything happened in 1573, I posted after Iberia. Iberia can join because you have colonies which it wants. Azores, Singapore, the Carribean, Guyana. I said in my turn that Iberia should link up with Bulgarian fleet, it did link up with it. That happened last turn you can't dispute it in the algo when it is an algo issue. The Iberians joined up with the fleet protest it in game not in algo. In my own turn I said about the Iberians. Person67 (talk) 18:50, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

I posted the Southern Bight algo yesterday morning, and all day no one said a thing. You never suggested to Bulgaria in your dip that they should try to link up with the Iberians, nor did Feud even say he wanted to or hoped to do anything of the sort. You two were willing to to accept the outcome of the battle (Feud even said the navies were bottled up because of it), so don't you can retroactively add ships you never claimed could be there for all day yesterday. I am that guy (talk) 19:23, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, here is what I will coneede. Iberia has no involvment in the first algo. The second algo is not in 1573 it is in 1574 and will involve Iberia. You need to post about the Raid on Medway because there is no mention of it and for location we gain advantge of near capital obviously.Person67 (talk) 19:38, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

As I said on chat, I agree with the compromise, as for the location Feud has decreed both sides in a naval battle get a general +3 location while he reworks that portion of the algo (he made this decision during the algo discussions for the Skagerrak battle). I am that guy (talk) 20:44, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

I am confused when did I send my fleet out, my fleet are in port protected by a chain boom. Person67 (talk) 07:48, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Hungaro-Bulgarian Offensive.

 * Pre-war


 * Bulgaria/Hungary: 85


 * Population: 61.84 6.56 Bulgaria 4.2 Hungary 1.5 Serbia 3.2 Poland
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +15 (bulgaria Leads)
 * Tech: 15 (Bulgaria Leads)
 * Austria: 53


 * Population: 32.8 Austria 5.5 mil 1.5 Bavaria 1.3 venice.
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +10
 * Tech: 15


 * Battle stage


 * Battle of the Frontier


 * Bulgarian Alliance


 * Result: 54


 * +27 Army size: 27.9  Bulgaria (50,000 Serbia and poland included) Hungary (40,000)
 * Location: +2
 * Attrition:
 * Great General: +25 Bogdan Velitchkov
 * Blunder: ??
 * Austrian forces


 * Result: 26.9


 * Army size: 24.9 (55,000 Austria) 15,000 Bavaria 13,000 (Venice)
 * Location: +2
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: ??

Final Scores:

Justice League: 139

Legion of Doom: 79.9

Percent: 174% victory for Bulgaria and friends battle went badly for Austria but their army is still in the field just barely.

Casualties:

Bulgaria and Friends: 9000

Austria: 12,450

Discussion

Hungaro-Bulgarian Offensive.

 * Pre-war


 * Bulgaria/Hungary: 85


 * Population: 61.84 6.56 Bulgaria 4.2 Hungary 1.5 Serbia 3.2 Poland
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +15 (bulgaria Leads)
 * Tech: 15 (Bulgaria Leads)
 * Austria: 53


 * Population: 32.8 Austria 5.5 mil 1.5 Bavaria 1.3 venice.
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +10
 * Tech: 15


 * Battle stage


 * Battle of the Frontier


 * Bulgarian Alliance


 * Result: 51.3


 * +24.3 Army size:   Bulgaria (41,000 Serbia and poland included) Hungary (40,000)
 * Location: +2
 * Attrition:
 * Great General: +25 Bogdan Velitchkov
 * Blunder: ??
 * Austrian forces


 * Result: 23


 * Army size: 21 (47,000 Austria) 12,000 Bavaria 11,000 (Venice)
 * Location: +2
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: ??

Final Scores:

Justice League: 136.3

Legion of Doom: 79.9

Percent: 170% +174% = %344 victory for Bulgarian alliance, Austrian forces take major casualties and retreat towards vienna.

Casualties:

Bulgaria and Friends: 4860 casualties

Austria: 21,000

Hungaro-Bulgarian Offensive.

 * Pre-war


 * Bulgaria/Hungary: 85


 * Population: 61.84 6.56 Bulgaria 4.2 Hungary 1.5 Serbia 3.2 Poland
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +15 (bulgaria Leads)
 * Tech: 15 (Bulgaria Leads)
 * Austria: 53


 * Population: 32.8 Austria 5.5 mil 1.5 Bavaria 1.3 venice.
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: +10
 * Tech: 15


 * Battle stage


 * Battle of the Frontier


 * Bulgarian Alliance


 * Result: 53.8


 * +24.3 Army size:   Bulgaria (41,000 Serbia and poland included) Hungary (40,000)
 * Location: +4.5
 * Attrition:
 * Great General: +25 Bogdan Velitchkov
 * Blunder: ??
 * Austrian forces


 * Result: 23


 * Army size: 21 (47,000 Austria) 12,000 Bavaria 11,000 (Venice)
 * Location: +6
 * Attrition:
 * Blunder: ??

Final Scores:

Justice League: 139.64

Legion of Doom: 76.8

Percent: 170% +174% +181% = %525 Bulgaria and Hungary smash through the last of the austrian army and seize Vienna Casualties:

Bulgaria and Friends: 1600 casualties

Austria: 52,000

Aryavarta-Gujarat War
I assume that Gujarat's pop. would be 4 million. I have 200,000 troops there.
 * Pre War Stage
 * Aryavarta (Attacking)- 235
 * Population- 200
 * Government- 5
 * Economy- 15
 * Technology- 15
 * Gujarat Sultanate (Defending)- 43
 * ​Population- 16
 * Government- 7
 * Economy- 10
 * Technology- 10
 * War Stage
 * Battle of Patan 1574
 * Delhi Raj: 47
 * ​Troops 45
 * Location +2
 * Great General No
 * Blunder  0
 * Attrition 0
 * Gujarat Sultanate: 16
 * ​Troops 12 (All of their army)
 * Location +4
 * Great General No
 * Blunder
 * Attrition 0
 * Result: Aryvarta has a decisive victory. Gujarati forces retreat. Aryavartiya forces suffer 5% casulaties while Gujarati forces suffer 30%.
 * ​Delhi Score 282
 * Bengal Score 75
 * Battle Tier 376%
 * Battle of Nadiad 1574
 * Delhi Raj: 63.5
 * ​Troops 60 (Supplied with another 50,000 troops)
 * Location +3.5
 * Great General No
 * Blunder  0
 * Attrition 0
 * Gujarat Sultanate: 16
 * ​Troops 12 (All of their army)
 * Location +4
 * Great General No
 * Blunder
 * Attrition 0
 * Result: Aryvarta has a decisive victory. Gujarati forces retreat. Aryavartiya forces suffer 5% casulaties while Gujarati forces suffer 40%.
 * ​Delhi Score 298.5
 * Bengal Score 75
 * Battle Tier 400%
 * 1st year of the Siege of Ahmedabad 1574
 * Delhi Raj: 70
 * ​Troops 60 (Supplied with another 50,000 troops)
 * Location +10
 * Great General No
 * Blunder  0
 * Attrition 0
 * Gujarat Sultanate: 23
 * ​Troops 11 (All of their army)
 * Location +12
 * Great General No
 * Blunder
 * Attrition 0
 * Result: Aryvarta has a decisive victory. Aryavartiya forces suffer 5% casulaties while Gujarati forces suffer 40%.
 * ​Delhi Score 305
 * Bengal Score 82
 * Battle Tier 371%
 * 2nd year of the Siege of Ahmedabad 1575
 * Delhi Raj: 70
 * ​Troops 60
 * Location +10
 * Great General No
 * Blunder  0
 * Attrition 0
 * Gujarat Sultanate: 19
 * ​Troops 7
 * Location +12
 * Great General No
 * Blunder
 * Attrition 0
 * Result: Aryvarta has a decisive victory. Aryavartiya forces suffer 5% casulaties while Gujarati forces suffer 40% casualties. Siege score crosses 500% in favor of Delhi. The siege of Ahmedabad ends with all Gujarati forces captured or killed.
 * ​Delhi Score 305
 * Bengal Score 78
 * Battle Tier 391%

Boheminan-austrian war
bohmeina attacking

Loctions:  0

pop; +15

goverment +7

eco +5

tech +10

austria defending

loctions o

pop +5

govemerment +7

eco + 10

tech +10

the war

bohemina

50

+3.5

denfnd

45

+4

scores bohemina 90 austia 81

bohemian  vitcroy Bibleboyd316 (talk) 21:42, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Is this retconned or is it legitmate? Person67 (talk) 18:26, January 17, 2017 (UTC)

This is nonsense.

10:35, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Pre war stage
Attack on Bilzen
 * English colonies of Western Arcadia, New Gwynedd and Avalon: +31.24
 * Population: +0.24
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +10
 * Tech: +15
 * Burgundian colonies of New Netherlands and New Flanders: +41.12
 * Population: +0.12
 * Government: +6
 * Economy: +10
 * Tech: +15
 * Avalon: +17.8
 * Troop: +13.8
 * Location: +4 (Major city)
 * Blunder:
 * New Netherlands: +4.09
 * Troops: +0.09
 * Location: +4
 * Blunder:

March along the Deleware

 * New Gwynedd: +2.2
 * Troops: 1.2
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder:
 * New Amsterdam: +1.09
 * Troops: 0.09
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder:

Invasion of New Flanders

 * Western Arcadia:+1.6
 * Troops:+0.6
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder:
 * New Flanders: 1
 * Troops: You have 40 troops can I just say 0
 * Location: +1
 * Blunder:

Final result:
England: 31.24+ 5.38+ 1.12+ 1.06=  52.84 Burgundy: +41.24 + 4.09+ 1.09+ 1.0 = 47.42

Discussion
This algo doesn't work for colonies. Person67 (talk) 22:14, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Me and Scraw have agreed you just overrun the colonies. Also we agreed until colonies get their own population bases to fight wars on their own to a degree then the troop count is just going to be multiplied times 10 here and thats only if you personally bring troops from the homeland. If you win in any colony this size its seized. This is mostly due to the fact colonies in this era did not really participate much in the wars. Not on the scale we are all thinking of. -Feud

I would like to point out that Person has not yet attacked New Amsterdam itself, New Netherlands capital and where I sent the reinforcements. I am that guy (talk) 23:18, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Ibero-Burgundian colonial war

 * Pre-war stage
 * Burgundian colony of Kuba
 * Population: .3
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 10
 * Tech: 15
 * Iberian colonies of Maiam, New Lusitania, and Mississippi
 * Population: 16.8 (4.2 mil)
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 10
 * Tech: 15
 * Battle stage
 * Invasion of Mississippi
 * Kuba
 * Result: 5.5
 * Troop size: .15 (500) * 10 = 1.5
 * Location: 4
 * Blunder:
 * Mississippi
 * Result: 6.9
 * Troop size: (3,000) = .9
 * Location: 6
 * Blunder:


 * Attack on Nova Lusitania
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 7
 * Army size: .3 * 10 = 3
 * Location: 4
 * Blunder:
 * Nova Lusitania
 * Result: 8.7
 * Army size: (9,000) = 2.7
 * Location: 6
 * Blunder:


 * Final result: Invasion repelled

Discussion
As per the new Colonial algo rules the colonies are overrun. I am that guy (talk) 23:14, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Oh so many problems with this. Still need blunder. Curmudgeonly yours - Crim 23:26, January 23, 2017 (UTC)

Scando-Burgundian colonial war

 * Pre-war stage
 * Burgundian colonies
 * Population: .3
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 10
 * Tech: 15
 * Scandy colonies
 * Population: .06
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 10
 * Tech: 10


 * Battle stage
 * Attack on Scandy colony in Newfoundland
 * Burgundy:
 * Result: 2.5
 * Army size: .15 * 10 = 1.5
 * location: 1
 * Blunder:
 * Scandy Newfoundland
 * Result: 1
 * Army size: 0
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder:


 * Attack on Scandy Nova Scotia
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 1.5
 * Army size: .15 * 10 = 1.5
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder:
 * Scandy Nova Scotia
 * Note: it has been said repeatedly the "English" colony on Nova Scotia is actually Scandinavian.
 * Result: 1
 * Army size: 0
 * Location: 1
 * Blunder:


 * Final Result: Scandinavian colonies are seized

Burgundian Naval offensive

 * Pre-war stage
 * Burgundy: 73
 * Population: 32
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15
 * Iberia: 85
 * Population: 44
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15


 * Battle stage
 * Battle off Galicia
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 35.5
 * Navy size: 16.5 (550)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -4
 * Great Admiral: 20
 * Iberia
 * Result: 21
 * Navy size: 21 (700)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -3


 * Battle of Cadiz
 * Burgundy
 * Result: 35.85
 * Navy size: 14.85 (495)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -2
 * Great Admiral: 20
 * Iberia
 * Result: 18.85
 * Navy size: 17.85 (595)
 * Location: 3
 * Blunder: -2


 * Final stage:

Return of Archduke Otto

 * Pre-war
 * Holy Roman Empire: 103
 * Population: 30 (Prussia) + 32 (Burgundy)
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 20
 * Tech: 15
 * Austria-Hungary: 70.36
 * Population: 32.8 + 6.56
 * Government: 6
 * Economy: 10
 * Tech: 15


 * Battle stage:
 * Battle of Vienna
 * Holy Roman Empire
 * Result: 69
 * Army size: 36 (120,000)
 * Location: 8
 * Great General: 25
 * Blunder:
 * Austria-Hungary
 * Result: 30.69
 * Army size: 15 + 3.69
 * Location: 12
 * Blunder:


 * Battle of Graz
 * Holy Roman Empire
 * Result: 63.83
 * Army size: 34.83 (116,100)
 * Location: 4
 * Blunder:
 * Great General: 25
 * Austria-Hungary
 * Result: 21
 * Army size: 17
 * Location: 4
 * Blunder:

Final result: 224% + 303% = 527% victory, Elisabethan forces are defeated and Otto reclaims the Austrian crown.