Talk:Medieval World (Map Game)

900 CE map
is there a map for this map game, i want to see how much land do i own as the Byzantine Empire, please Sine dei gloriem (talk) 18:08, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

England
Wait, according to wikipedia, Wessex controlled everything in England but NOrthumbria and Mercia. Please, fix. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:43, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

pretty much mercia and northumbria are England, wessex would be just the south area, with control over londinium  Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:14, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Umm... no, Wessex is the most powerful state. It controls a lot more than is purported by your list. What's more, Northumbria and Mercia control very, very little land.

In any case, AD 900 is a stupid time to start, just saying, you should start at 1000 AD.

But, either way, I'm leaving. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:24, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

There was also York and East Anglia, which, though they soon would submit to Wessex, existed in 900. Cosman246 (talk) 04:32, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Expansion
I'd like to know about expansion possibilities, for instance i have seen the Kievan Rus and the Caliph province expand their territory and I'm wondering if there are any boundaries for expansion, ie if I (Venice) bordered Croatia, which is a NPC, can I expand into Croatia? Or is it only land that isnt controlled by a state? Airlinesguy (talk) 00:02, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

You'd have to declare war on Croatia, but yeah, you can expand into it. Cosman246 (talk) 04:20, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Regional Power Status
What would it take to make Denmark to become a major power in Europe? Espically in this time period? Enclavehunter (talk) 02:09, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Control of major trade routes (perhaps by having mercantile Vikings) is what I'd say Cosman246 (talk) 04:21, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Expansion on Map
Alright, someone needs to fix the map. I want to expand, but I don't know if there's a nation next to me I can invade and expand faster through. Please add all the nations on the map. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:33, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

i agree on this, the map should be like the one of Principia Moderni Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:41, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

It is hard to judge the exact positions of the tribes though. It is not necessary to locate their exact territories, simply mark their approximate spheres of influence - GoldenKhanate.

I found a map of the Europe at 1000 AD ... 1000 AD

Enclavehunter (talk) 23:17, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

820: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/BlankMap-World-820.png

That means this map is horrendously out of date. If the Abassid Caliphate was that huge in 820, imagine how large it should be 900. Someone fix our map!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:56, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

The Caliphate had shrunk by 900, see this map of 900 Cosman246 (talk) 04:16, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Nation Pages
Created my Khitans nation page.

Algorithm
We need one. Quick. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:39, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Aren't we using the PMII algorithm? Airlinesguy (talk) 09:04, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

We are. Cosman246 (talk) 23:45, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Khitans Expansion
Khitans do not just control Mongolia and Gansu, they also control Manchuria at this point. No tribes around this area have the capability to stop an organized, centralized steppe state as the expansion of Genghis Khan showed. Please add Manchuria to Khitan territories.

Duly noted. Cosman246 (talk) 23:45, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Abbasid - Tulunid War (908)
Forgot all about this war, lol.

Abbasid Caliphate

 * Location: 4
 * Tactical advantage: 6 (Attacker, +1, Large Empire, +5)
 * Strength: Abbasids (L, +4), Qi'fan Russ (M, +3): +7
 * Military Development: +16 (8 years * 2 points)
 * Motive: +7 (Religion, plus they broke away from our Empire long ago)
 * Chance: +7
 * Time: 2*2*3*6 = 72
 * Edit Count: 8321
 * (8321/72)*pi = 363.0721176...
 * Nation Age: +5 (Old nation)
 * Participation: +10
 * Result: +62

Tulunid Emirate

 * Location: 4
 * Tactical Advantage: 0
 * Strength: +4
 * Military Development: +0
 * Motive: +5
 * Chance: +1
 * Nation Age: +0
 * Participation: +10
 * Result: +24

Overall Result
(62/(24+62))*2)-1 = 0.4418............ 44.18%

To hell with the Tulunids. Welcome back to the Empire.

War in Croatia
Would it be considered a normal war with Papal States as the leader, or a coalition war with the Papal States, Byzantine Empire, and Venice against Croatia?

Doctor Evulz (talk) 18:48, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Coalition with Venice please. Airlinesguy (talk) 09:24, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Anti-Sergians
Total: 90
 * Location: +9 (East Roman Empire +2,  Papal States +3,  Venice +4)
 * Tactical Advantage: +1 (Attackers' advantage)
 * Strength: +22 = Benevento (MS), East Roman Empire (L), Papal States (L), Salerno (MS), Venice (L)
 * Military Development: (East Roman Empire = 8) + (Papal States = 8) + (Venice = 20) = +36
 * Economy: (East Roman Empire = 0) + (Papal States = 0) + (Venice = 4) = 4
 * Infrastructure: 0
 * Expansion: -3 (I'm not counting the rest of the East Roman Empire's because I don't think they're plausible)
 * Motive: 7
 * Chance: 1
 * Edit Count: 124 (Doctor Evulz' edit count, he originally declared war)
 * UTC Time: 2:36 2*3*6 = 36
 * 124/36= 3.44444*3.14=10.8155555555556
 * Nation Age: 0
 * Population: 6 (6 digits)
 * Participation: 10
 * Recent Wars: -3 (As with expansion)

Croatia
Total: 34
 * Location: +5
 * Tactical Advantage: 0
 * Strength: +4 = Croatia (L)
 * Military Development: 0
 * Economy: 0
 * Infrastructure: 0
 * Expansion: 0
 * Motive: 10
 * Chance: 1
 * Edit Count: 124 (Doctor Evulz' edit count, he originally declared war)
 * UTC Time: 2:36 2*3*6 = 36
 * 124/36= 3.44444*3.14=10.8155555555556 (IDK what to do here... I'll use the 1 again...?)
 * Nation Age: 0
 * Population: 4 (4 digits)
 * Participation: 10
 * Recent Wars: 0

Results
((90/(34+90))*2)-1 = 0.45161290322

which means

(0.45161290322)*(1-1/(2*5)) = 40.64% of Croatian land, which means we overthrow the government. Discussion on how to split up Croatia below.

War was declared in 912, so we only have to wait for one more year.

Discussion
How are we going to partition Croatia? I'd like Croatia as a vassal of mine, but I'd be happy for it to be at least partially split up between the victorious powers. And did I do anything wrong in the algorithm? Airlinesguy (talk) 01:00, December 19, 2012 (UTC)