User talk:Nik

Cabotia and Brasil
Hi Nik.

In my Cabotia and Brasil timeline I am playing with the idea of Martin Luther being cannonized as a Catholic Saint. St Martin Luther, Doctor and Reformer of the Church. I would like to explore the following events, and ask you for an opinion:
 * Giovanni di Lorenzo de' Medici does not become pope in 1513 (Leo X *here*). Someone else does, someone with the political skills of Alexander IV or Julius II.
 * This pope: *Leo X, while not a saint as other popes of the era, is definitively much less corrupt than de Medici.
 * Martin Luther is still disapointed on the Church and the papacy, but not outraged for the way indulgencies and sees are being sold. He eventually shares his Thesis, but with a lower profile.
 * Eventually *Leo X and Martin Luther begin writing eachother and share their points of view. They won't agree but there is no excomunion either.
 * In mid or late 16th century, most Lutherian thesis had been incorporated in the Roman church.
 * Some time in the 18th century, Martin Luther is cannonized.

Comments?
 * Chlewey 22:37, 10 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * I would say that Luther probably went along the same route as *here*, initially. Posting the 95 Theses, etc.  However, *there*, the Diet of Worms was more conciliatory.  A compromise of some sort was adopted.  Perhaps some kind of Council was created to investigate Luther's positions.  The Council recommended the acceptance of Luther's major points - restrictions on the sale of indulgences, adoptance of the Vernacular, priestly marriage, etc.  The Protestant-Catholic split would've been delayed, but I think it's inevitable that it would've occured anyways at some point, lead by a different figure, perhaps Calvin Nik42 23:42, 10 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Here is an idea: for some time Reformed Catholic would have the same status as *here* ortodox catholics à la Mel Gibson. There are differences between them and Rome, they are close to a schism, but the have not yet broken appart.  Eventually both conceptions will become closer, in this case, by Rome adopting the theses.
 * So, by mid 17th Century, Rome is Reformed.
 * About Calvin and Calvinism... that would be a little harder to reconciliate with Catholicism. I will see how that evolves...
 * --Carlos Th 07:42, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)

wikiformat helper
Nik...looks like we've got a wikiformat helper hanging out. :) Louisiannan


 * She's a general moderator for Wikicities

Bureaucrat
Let the Bureaucracy begin. Let's see. I'll first want to set up some forms that you have to fill-in and deliver in quintiplicate to us before we can begin editing a page.....

Louisiannan

Shogun
Nik, I would greatly value your inpout and knowledge on the subject of this. :) Shogun

Xogun
Feel free to add any historical stuff about Shogun as you see fit...I think that you can see where I'm going with it.

Mantainance
There are several articles and categories that should be deleted, with nothing linking at them and no content.

They are located category:delete.

Thank you.

-- Carlos Th