User talk:KingSweden



Napoleon's World
I renamed your articles to meet the naming conventions of this wiki. I also created a category for the TL itself. Mitro 16:30, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

what happened to all the information on my article? It just disappeared...
 * Both of your articles are still there, they have just been renamed. You can see them here: Category:Napoleon's World. Mitro 22:48, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks.

1983: Doomsday
Thank you for your interest in 1983: Doomsday. If you haven't already please read the. Due to the large number of users adding to the TL, we usually require that all new articles go through a proposal period before they are officially "graduated" into canon. This allows us a chance to make sure the article doesn't contradict established canon. If you have any questions feel free to message me. Mitro 13:39, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Flags from FascistBritan
here are some flags that can be used for future swedish involved stories(for more flags go to my talk page and tell others)

Pasco Free State
I see you have not updated the Pasco Free State page in some time and thus has been moved to the category of a "stub". I have began to improve the article but it has left me wondering if you still have any interest in it. If not I would like to adopt it into my able hands and I assure you all of what you have contributed to the page will remain and you shall receive credit for it. --GOPZACK 18:43, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

I've been busy working on my own althist recently on the few occasions I've had time to update. I appreciate the offer and I'm more than happy to co-edit it with you if you would like. KingSweden 22:44, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Certainly I would love to co-edit it. What ideas did you have in mind? --GOPZACK 22:58, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking we could expand on its ties to Ellensburg and the Yakima Valley as a whole - the Tri-Cities is the hub of the PFC, but they'd obviously have expanded out into larger parts of the Columbia Plateau, maybe even outposts in eastern Oregon. I feel also that many survivors from nuclear-destroyed Seattle would have fled east if they heard word of a secure PFC. The new article looks great, but it feels like a wikipedia entry on Pasco itself - we should tailor it more to reflect on post-Doomsday Tri-Cities and eastern Washington.KingSweden 00:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Quick reply
To rename an article, just click on the move button on top of the page and follow the directions.

Linking is easy. Just put two brackets on either side of the page you want to link to, so it should look something like this: Naples (Chaos). Now if you want to get ride of the TL name, just use this formatting: Naples. That will give you this: Naples.

See the naming conventions for more advice. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask. Mitro 18:48, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'm not sure if everyone uses the same map templates, but you might want to check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blank_maps. Mitro 04:59, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would suggest using the apostrophes only. Mitro 19:35, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reply
I have to say that your timeline and Alt Hist is very thought out. The only problems I would have is the fact that Napoleon did create puppet states in order to control his Empire, but didn't consolidate them into one. The massive empire that you show would have only been possible with an enormous army; loyal (and unquestioning) governors; relatively free societies to keep the people happy, but a crushing of nationalism that was brought on by the French Revolution and, surprisingly, Napoleon himself; an efficient and quick communications system (which would really have only been possible with the advent of Railroads and the Telegraph.

Don't get me wrong, this is a very good storyline, but I wouldn't see a French Empire that your detailing until, at the very earliest, the 1850's, but most likely until the beginning of the 20th century.

Keep up the Good work! I'm not really a student of the early 1800's either, but I could believe that such an event your describing is, somewhat, possible.

PS: Would you mind if I ask for some help on mine, French Trafalgar, British Waterloo when ever you get the chance?

--Tbguy1992 16:29, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I've taken that into consideration - that is an awfully large amount of territory for one Empire to control. To alleviate this, my consideration was the establishment of different kingdoms under one flag - specifically, a German sector and a gutted Russian sector that operate semi-autonomously under the French tricolor.

In this timeline, Napoleon had two more sons after Napoleon II, each of which would have been granted stewardship of their own swath of territory in Germany and the purged Russia. Keep in mind that in this TL, there was a bloody, vicious, near-genocidal purge of Russian nobles and militarymen in the mid-to-late 1810's and a mass Russian exodus eastwards to Siberia, and later Alaska. The question of Russian nationalism plagues the French Empire all the way into the 21st century.

Thank you for your pointers. I'll have a look at yours and let you know what I think. KingSweden 18:20, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I'll take a look at itTodyo1798 02:15, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

A Viking Civilization and Napoleon's World
Thank you for extending the hand of friendship to me to help you with your timelines, I'd love to help. The Turks still holding the Balkans is a bit of a stretch, thought it might not necessarily be out of the question. Towards the Napoleonic Era, nationalism amongst the various European cultures under the yoke of Turkish rule was rapidly being revitalized, why exactly, I can only speculate as to why, most likely because towards the end of their reign the Ottomans did get pretty-heavy handed But you have to remember that this is from the perspective of a die-hard Greek nationalist and Orthodox Christian, I would check the facts from an absolutely reliable source, of which there were few in the 1800s. I believe in our world the Ottoman Empire was passively on the side of Napoleon, but originally Napoleon did support the Greeks, even pledging aid to their struggle if he won in Egypt, so it might be more likely he helps freedom-fighters in Greece, the Levant, and the Balkans than the Turks, unless they have something he needs. I suppose if you could think of a reason for him to forsake the Greek Revolutonaries and side with the Turks, fear of an invasion from both bloodthirsty jnnisaries and now the French might scare any on-the-fence about what to do revolutionaries. The Orthodox Church was always a medium between the its spiritual flock and the Turks, perhaps if the Turks gave the Greeks autonomy and gave the Patriarchate more power over the Greeks, you might be able to swing it. A word of caution; giving people too much power to a people who want complete independence can lead to big troubles. As for your idea on the Roman Republic, Italian history isn't my speciality, I'm sorry. However I know an Italian alt-historian who might love this kind of thing, I can ask if he'd like to help for you (his name is Filo on Alternate History.com, I don't think it would help to mention my name, we hardly know each other, only coming into contact in one project, but of course it wouldn't hurt, we're not enemies or anything :D). As for your newest Alt-Hist, I could help with the Byzantine Empire and Aragon; if you need a helper with Russia or France, I could offer my services, I'd like to branch out.
 * Sorry this took me so long to respond, it's been a busy few weeks for me, and it's only getting worse.

Mr.Xeight 02:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Two Things
Hello there. I will be more than happy to answer your questions. First off, I pretty much use the infoboxes that AltHist Wiki provides (like Template:NationInfo). But if you are actually keen on making a new one from scratch, I can help you out with those. I too am not so good with the complex versions. But those are meant for any and all articles. If you are working on one which is specifically for your own, that I can help you out.

As for my Antarctica timeline, I am actually thinking about either changing it or dividing it into two other timelines. But either way, when I get to work on it, you will be the first to know. I would love to get your two cents on it. —NuclearVacuum 03:52, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. Well, to upload images here, you go to the Upload page here (you can find the link on the help box on the left of the page. Just upload the image, and that is it. Pretty easy. Than you take the link to the image and put it into its correct link on the infobox. If you want, I will be more than happy to help you out. If you want, you can look at my articles to get a good idea of how they look in wikitext. —NuclearVacuum 04:03, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Great White South
You said you wanted me to tell you when I was going to start that Antarctica timeli introduction speaks enough of what I have in mind. Tell me what you think, and if you are still interested in working with me on it. —NukeVac (Talk) 20:03, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom of K'athar (Great White South)
What is this? --NuclearVacuum 17:07, April 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have nothing really against it, I am just ticked that you would write something like that without consulting me first. I am not going to request it be deleted, but any expansion of it is to be done after the Antarctic countries are stable. --NuclearVacuum 18:07, April 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I am really sorry for that. If you really want to make up history, please tell me first, don't just do it. --NuclearVacuum 20:05, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I really hope you are not still mad at me, or have negative vibes from me. I just wanted to let you know that I have been thinking about it, and I have an interesting idea on how to expand this. If you don't mind, may I? --NuclearVacuum 00:05, April 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well that's good. Sorry, I guess I am a little paranoid. Anyway, I did a little editing to the page, to make it sound more like what I have in mind, but I rather much love the idea after thinking about it in detail. I guess I need to act it out before I like it. =P If you have any other, I would really love you to write them down. I promise not to loose my top this time. --NuclearVacuum 01:04, April 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, lost my place. Anyways, please check out the page, I did some rewording there to match up with my ideas. Please tell me what you think. --NuclearVacuum 01:37, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

French Trafalgar, British Waterloo Ideas
Thanks for those ideas, and they do give me some ideas. However, I already have Cuba independent in a "Carribean Confederation" in the uphevals when the Spainish Empire disintigrated, and their will be a "World War" after 1858, in the next article. Slavery will still result in a Civil War in the US during this war, with British supporting Southern States while France allies with the North, and Daniel Webster is going to lose the election of 1844, only the Liberal Party of the US, which surpases the Democratic Party, is going to win the election, but, most likely Polk will become the president later (maybe). Do you happen to know what poitical allignment Polk is? That would really help me out!

Thank you for the suggestions, and I hope you will have more for me soon!

--Tbguy1992 21:55, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Napoleon's World
Congrats, Napoleon's World is now a featured TL. Since this is the first time Napoleon's World will be featured on the main page, I will need a short blurb from you about the TL plus any pics or links you would like to appear with it. Featured TLs for the main page are chosen at random, so I don't know when exactly Napoleon's World will appear, but the sooner you get me that info the better. Thanks and congratulations again. Mitro 22:27, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Well I can make a "box with lists" (like the one at the bottom of my userpage); and I can edit infobox-style templates; and I could probably make an infobox, though I've never actually tried. Oh, and since you're the expert on Native Antarctic Peoples in Great White South, I was wondering if it was possible for Polynesians to reach the continent (presumably much later than the others, perhaps in the 1400s)? - Mister Sheen 10:19, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll get started on some Polynesian ideas then. By the way, did you want any Infobox-related help or anything? - Mister Sheen 08:27, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Napoleon's World
Yeah, I have to say you have been giving it a lot of work!

I'm just wondering if you want to a contribution swap: where you can make an article or two on my French Trafalgar, British Waterloo, and I make a couple on yours. How does that sound? Tbguy1992 15:12, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Of course. I will do my best to make sure it stays within your timeline. And no offense will be taken if you do have to change it. I hope that you will also help me with mine, as well. Tbguy1992 00:45, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I could make a lot more Nation Templates for you. Like on Zanzibar. (I'm assuming you want them to have the same flag as in OTL, or maybe one with a English emblem on it?) Eastward Expansion 12:30, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

BNA
I marked the article for deletion, but I cannot delete it myself because I am on a self-imposed exile as I study for the IL state bar. Please contact someone in the TSPTF for more help. Mitro

Thanks! I used to play the game religiously so I know that map when I see it. Good luck on your bar exam! KingSweden 03:49, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Antarctic Natives
This is really your area, so you might want to take a look at this: Antarctic Indigenous Peoples (Great White South). - Mister Sheen 17:53, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've glanced over Napoleon's World, and I'll definitely take a closer look soon. It looks really good so far (though I'm not sure how realistic it is to turn Celebrities into Politicians/Civil Rights leaders - still, it's an interesting idea!). One other thing: you may want to start the specific articles on France / USA soon (unless you already have, and I'm too dumb to find them :P), since they are basically two of the most important articles to the whole TL. - Mister Sheen 15:51, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I would do the exact same thing with the Celebrity-becomes-Politician thing, if I ever made a TL like that. Because you're right, it really is fun to do!
 * And that really sucks about the USA article; I've had similar stuff happen to me (not on this Wiki, but a). It is one of the most annoying things which can happen when you're writing. By the way, I certainly didn't mean that you haven't done enough work on France; because you've clearly done loads. - Mister Sheen 19:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Categorizing
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!Eastward Expansion 11:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Benito Mussolini
I admit that I made a mistake. I changed the date. I'm going to write Mussolini becoming a famous opera singer and movie star instead of a fascist.

Yankovic270 21:17, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Kim Jong-Il was born in 1941. So even if his daddy was killed, he would still be alive.

Yankovic270 22:20, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hi, its me again. Just wanted to let you know that you are doing a great job on Napoleon's World!

Also, I would like to tell you about another thing I've started up, called the Choose Your Own Alternate History!. I was just wondering if you would like to help me expand it?

Doesn't matter if you do or don't, but I just wanted to offer that to you!

Good day. Tbguy1992 05:23, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I just thought that their would still have been a major disaster along those lines, so, yeah.


 * I'll try to get more on as soon as I can!


 * Tbguy1992 17:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I've added a bit about an American Labor Movement being founded in the 1880's, as well as a modified form of the OTL Winnipeg General Strike, which in OTL took place in my home province of Manitoba, Canada. In the ATL, though, it looks as though it will be part of the US, so I'm guessing North Dakota.

Also, I made Winston Churchill a writer, of a series of books called the "What If?" It will basically be an "imagined world", mirrored of of OTL.

Hope you like! Tbguy1992 05:30, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I guess I should have looked into it a bit more: I think that Churchill being a writer before a politician would give him a good standing among the people, so he could easily assume the leadership of the Socialist Party. That is the main reason I chose 1915. Tbguy1992 17:01, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, I had just thought that Churchill would have been a writer if not a politician, and, knowing that actors in OTL are politicians and such in ATL, and vice-versa, I originally thought Churchill wouldn't have gotten to involved in politics. Yet. Tbguy1992 01:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, thanks! I also was considering adding Alfred Dreyfus and a modified "Dreyfus Affair," just nothing sexual. Most likely a major who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, overhears of several generals planning to overthrow the Emperor, but is accused of treason for reporting it and thrown into prison, but the emperor hears of it, pardons him and arrests the Generals and lines them up in front of a firing squad. Just an idea, however. Tbguy1992 02:03, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Dreyfus Affair was when a French-Jewish officer, Alfred Dreyfus, was accused of spying for Germany in 1896, and promptly sent to Devil's Island for treason. But when another soldier, Major Georges Picquart found out another officer was really the spy, he was told to shut up, and the actual spy was acquitted. Picquart leaked documents revealing that Dreyfus was innocent and the Military was trying to cover it up, which resulted in a massive scandal that divided France into those who believed Dreyfus was innocent and those who thought he was guilty. Writer Émile Zola wrote an open letter to President Félix Faure, called "J'accuse!", and forced to England to avoid being arrested for libel. The President, however, ultimately stepped in, and ordered the army to retry Dreyfus, but found him guilty again, at which point the President pardoned him. Dreyfus was ultimately exonertaed, reluctantly, by the Army, and he served with distinction in the First World War. The actual spy was charged, found guilty and sent to Devil's Island himself, and the Anti-Semetic army was harshly reprimanded.


 * This event was possibly the closest Modern France came to Civil War since the Revolution, and the bitterness caused by both sides lingered until after Vichy France, mostly composed of the "Anti-Dreyfuseds." But a major step toward universal democracy was achieved.


 * Of course, with their being no Germany, it would have to be modified somewhat. Say Dreyfus overheard the Generals, but was reprimanded, striped of his rank for "Treason" and exiled. But the Emperor, who would be Louis II, would find out about this, and the real traitors (say, Ferdinand Walsin Esterhazy, who was the real spy for Germany, and Hubert-Joseph Henry, who forged documents to assure that Dreyfus was kept locked up), but in ATL, would have to be in charge of some kind of army group in order to execute their "plan."


 * This is all an idea, but I hope you may accept it. Tbguy1992 02:51, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I added a spiel about the Dreyfus Affair on The Iron Revolution (Napoleon's World), mostly as a proposal to see how it ties in with he rest of the story. If you don't like how I did it, you can change it or remove it: I'm a flexible guy, and am only trying to help you with your excellent story. Tbguy1992 05:25, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ontario
I have an idea regarding the province of Ontario. How about, instead of being apart of French Canada, it is an independant buffer state between the Alaskans and the French? I plan on having Jim Carrey be the current Premier/Prime Minister of Ontario.

Yankovic270 19:18, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Chuck Norris
My idea for Chuck Norris in Napoleon's World is that he is the equivilent of OTL's Jim Carrey.

Yankovic270 23:01, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Its because you, or at least some other user, seem to have an obsession with making historical figures and celebrities into athletes. It's notr wrong persay, but it leaves the Alternate Destinies page with a frustrating lack of variety. Besides, Booth and Norris are both actors in real life anyway. Its just that Booth's reputation as a fairly good actor was overcome by his reputation as Lincoln's assassin. And I simply changed the genre of the films in which Chuck Norris starred in. Didn't you say that you were going to expand Lincoln's mini-bio?

Yankovic270 02:06, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I have had a brainwave. How about we make Larry the Cable Guy the founder of this timeline's equivilent to Microsoft?

Yankovic270 02:43, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yank, where do you get these brain waves? And where can I get them? They are actually pretty good! Tbguy1992 02:57, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

You just think about your favorite athlete/singer/politician/actor and try to imagine their life if it went in another direction (ex. Justin Bieber (I hate that guy) as a convicted serial killer). Other than that I can't really explain it that well.

Yankovic270 03:13, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Still, the idea's are brilliant. Better than mine, I have to admit. Tbguy1992 03:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Congrats KingSweden on hitting 1000 edits!

If you want to expand on Chuck and create one for Sam Kinison, feel free to do so Tbguy.

Yankovic270 03:21, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't know who Sam Kinison is, but I do have a couple other people I woul dlike to put in: Garth Brooks, who could be an athlete in the 1980 or 1984 Olympics (he went to University on a Track and Field scholarship), before becoming moderately successful singer before being offered a job on a cable news network (call it the American News Network, or something), where he is the host of a talk show (think Larry King!), and becomes one of the most respected journalists of all time, but retired in 2010 to spend more time with his family (in OTL, he retired from making new songs and performances in 2001, but came back in 2009). His signature would be the black cowboy hat he wore on air, and he continued to make more music while working for the ANN.

Another idea would be Johny Cash would become a well known singer and TV host, but his drug and alcohol addiction would catch up with him, and he would be sent to prison for manslaughter, killing a pedestrian while driving a vehicle in Califormnia drunk, for ten years. During the time, he recovered from his addictions, and became a born again Christan, and began a "Crusade" to bring the Gospel to those who needed it, especially prisons and slums. The so called "Man in Black" would later be fondly remembered for his preaching and concerts he performed to raise money to help the impoverished. His most famous songs would be "Ring of Fire" (in ATL, about drug addiction, not love), "Folsom Prison Blues" (about his time in the same prison) and "I Walk the Line." He would die in his sleep in 2003, never feeling that he had repaid for his sins.

Yet another idea is that Jeff Foxworthy would become a nationally syndicated radio host, and host one of the most popular radio shows in history, the "Jeff Foxworthy News Show," where he would poke fun at the daily headlines from around the world. He would later be the executive producer for the "Daily Show with Stephen Colbert" and "The Stewart Report," during which time he is a frequent contributor on stage. He his set to retire in 2012.

If you like it, I will also expand Colbert and Stewart, but I was wondering about Brooks, Cash and Foxworthy first.

What do you think, KingSweden? Tbguy1992 06:09, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, well if they need to be important, then say that Brooks' most memorable interview was with President John Burwin about his affairs with Sandra Bullock and Natalie Weaver in 1995, which is considered to be the last hope he had to be re-elected, and propelling the popularity of Brooks. He later interviews other presidents and members of the Government, had exposes several scandals, making him one of America's most trusted men. Scratch the idea about being a singer for him, say he was


 * For Johny Cash, maybe being a singer isn't the best idea: maybe he is an actor, a supporting actor in some Kennedy's movies, before the incident. He writes "Folsom Prison Blues," as a book, and it is later turned into a best selling movie. I still like the idea about his "Crusades", maybe like a Billy Graham figure, and is credited with with starting the "War on Drugs" and a great supporter of the Civil Rights movement, encouraging Bill Crosby and MLK to continue with their work after he Phily Race Riots and the aftermath.


 * Jeff Foxworthy...well, I'm not quite sure where he could fit in: I would like to set him up to be the basis for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, who would be the "bigger" characters, with Colbert "running" for Pres in 2012 (like what he did in 2008). Tbguy1992 16:54, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, the Daily Show with Jeff Foxworthy sounds good to me. How about Colbert being a one term - National Party Senator from Carolina, and throws in his hat for the 2012 race (kind like OTL Barak Obama), but you can decide if he wins or not.


 * And the Brooks idea: sounds good! I'm a country music fan, so putting him into the the TL would be greatly appreciated.


 * I still am not sure about Cash, because I would like him to in there, but I'm not sure what he could do to make himself mentioned.


 * I'll get started with Foxworthy and Brooks, but I'll wait for Cash and Colbert. Tbguy1992 17:25, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Vincent Price
How do you like the idea of Vincent Price being the equivilent of Walt Disney in Napoleon's World?

Yankovic270 21:19, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

The page's name is "Alternate Destinies". That means that no-one written about should have a life that proceded as it did in OTL. Besides the contrast of Price's "creepy" reputation and Disney-style family animation is too interesting to pass up. I had the idea to have Disney either be the mayor of Chicago or governor of Illinois. And I mean fictional as in people who only exist in movies, books or television shows. I have two examples:


 * Frederick Krueger - current Governor of Ohio


 * Jason Voorhees - Massively sucessful lawyer specializing in cases related to child abuse.

Yankovic270 05:35, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Fictional Characters in Napoleon's World
Because of the Napoleon's World line "The timeline assumes some real-life persons never existed, and that some existed who never would have." I had a brainwave. Could certain fictional characters from our world be real in theirs?

Yankovic270 21:49, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Whoa. That was heavy, and just blew my mind.


 * But I have to agree with Yank. Wouldn't real people in OTL possibly be fictional in theirs? That opens a huge Pandora's Box of Philosophical questions. I might not get any sleep tonight.


 * The one fictional character I would like to put in, if that is possible, is Sam Yeager from the Harry Turtledove "Worldwar" series...just sort of like a "homage" or something.


 * Also, would minor people in OTL, say someone we know's grandpa or uncle or something like that be "famous" in ATL? I was planning on honoring my grandfather in French Trafalgar, British Waterloo, as he was a well respected area councilor and farmer from where I come from. What do you think? Tbguy1992 06:32, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, I live about three hours South West of Winnipeg, but we would still have been in the same state. We live near the small town of Melita, Manitoba OTL Tbguy1992 15:18, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. This means a lot to me. But yes, I understand that you wish to keep this within realistic bounds. I will continue to do my best to help you. Tbguy1992 15:41, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * But, I just noticed that we would actually be living in Dakota, not Khoakia or however you spell it. Maybe his family moved, or he becomes governor of Dakota. Tbguy1992 15:52, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly. In Napoleon's World it could be Robert Englund who is the fictional supernatural murderer, and Freddy is the actor portraying him. Total role reversal! Another idea I had was for an alternate "Freddy vs Jason" showdown, with it being on the campaign trail rather than a literal fight at Camp Crystal Lake. We could have Freddy and Jason be the major candidates of an election, with the winner being the "dark horse" candidate.

Yankovic270 18:01, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

How about I start my additions to state my ideas, and you finish them? I'm not as good as you at making long mini-bios.

Yankovic270 16:34, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Russian Timeline
Have you seen my new Timeline, And Broke into Parts, My Russia, Please give me your real opinion, and feel free to edit it. Please Answer Me. VENEZUELA 03:44, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Because of the colapse of UK in 1991 after the UK-USA Cold War. I'm also going to add Wales. VENEZUELA 18:48, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hello!
And as always, its good to talk to you.

The Alaskan War will take me a while to read, but I'm assuming the Alaskan's basically win, right? In that case, I'd say the US would suffer from Social problems, as they had claimed to the people that the war would be a "walk in the park," but the Alaskan's defense of their lands force the American's realize that Manifest Destiny would be difficult, if not impossible, to achieve. Organized Labor, such as the American Labor Movement I created on the TL awhile ago, would be formed, and would result in, ultimately, a Teddy Roosevelt-esque trust-busting actions, and the emergence of unions as one of the most powerful political forces in the US, while the US has to drop its isolationism in order to hope that, maybe one day, Manifest Destiny could be achieved. This is mostly post-war, mind you: I need to look at the full article to see what can be improved for the war itself.

Alright, I think I can look a bit into the other three wars you asked for help. The Schwarzenegger idea was brilliant, by the way! And I'd be willing to help with the French Imperial Staff history, and look into expanding its commanders and the story since its creation.

I would be willing to help create a TV and Literature page, as well as start a Music page to go along with the Film of Napoleon's World you created, but I can't give any assurances I may get it right at first; you may have to go in and change it up to fit in better.

Now, for one of most admired people of the OTL WWII era, Albert Speer, I was wondering if he would find a place as an architect in your world, mostly massive, monumental buildings similar to the buildings he built for OTL's Nazi Germany. He would be friends with Hitler still, I'm guessing, but is more supportive of the empire than Hitler, so wouldn't be killed in the purges, but they may disgust him, so he immigrates to the US for the rest of his life. Just an idea.

I don't mind that you altered the Dreyfuss Affair, as I was certain something wouldn't quite fit in: I'm surprised so much did actually fit in your TL!

I'm wondering if Stephen Colbert, instead of being a TV show host, instead was the member of the Democratic Party, and suggested for the 2012 nomination? If not, maybe say he is a more popular independent Candidate, basically a more successful Perot, and a force to be reckoned with.

I really don't know much else what to suggest at the moment...let me think about it, and I'll get back to you!

And, if you do have time, please check out French Trafalgar, British Waterloo, as I could really use some new ideas to spruce it up.

Finally, I was wondering what your idea for a novel based on Napoleon's World will be: in the past, something like Harry Turtledove's Timeline 191 series, or present, like his "In the Presence of Mine Enemies", because I would really like to help you on that project. Let me know!

Regards, Tbguy1992 05:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I understand that the 2012 elections are a long ways off, but people are already starting to consider it OTL, and some nearly three years before 2008 had already thrown their hats into the ring: with American Politics, their is never a "too early to decide to run for president."

I will work some on Imperial General Staff soon, most likely by laying the groundwork for the Iron Revolution. I think that Petain, a Dreyfuss supporter during the Affair, lets say, was appointed to try to bring the military a new public image, as well as reign in spending, but his death on the Titanesque cut that mission short, and soon the IGS is trying to push for a bigger piece of the Imperial Pie, but under Cerf is unable to gain any headway under Napoleon III, and allies with Albert to begin with.

Are all the titles created in the Alaskan War article already sorta fleshed out by you, or do you need help with them? I will need to read it a bit more, and hopefully tomorrow I'll have an idea if you need it.

I will work on a TV page also in the near future, and should get it roughly done in a while: no set timetables though, because my main TL is my own French Trafalgar, British Waterloo.

Anyway, good night, and talk to you later.

Tbguy1992 06:23, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ideas
This is a list of my ideas for the mini-bios I added to the Alternate Destinies page recently:


 * Vladmir Lenin: Professor of Political Science at a Russian university.


 * Leon Trotsky: Actor famous for playing mad scientists on film.Once had a part as Nikola Tesla.


 * Nicola Tesla: Brilliant inventor whose creations are still being developed to this day.


 * Thomas Edison: Head of the first film studio in existance. (NOTE: I request that Edison Studios continue making films to the present day)

Yankovic270 13:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) I based my Goring idea on his obsession on gathering art from around Europe. After all, they were finding stolen art he socked away in mines and caves for years after the end of WWII. I just imagined what would happen if Goring didn't need to steal his art collection. The museum opened after the confiscation of royal property following the French Revolution, and had its first major expansion during the reign of Napoleon I. I would have thought that his sons would have continued this trend.
 * 2) I love the idea of Jim Carrey becoming Vice President. Could he also become President in Bruce Springstein's place?
 * 3) I think that the Baron could have either became the head of either the French Air Force or the American, like his real life. Or he could have gone in a different direction and became a Shakespearean actor.

Yankovic270 15:51, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I have four ideas for new additions to the Alternate Destinies page (and England's):
 * 1) Instead of OTL British Prime Minister David Cameron, substitute Eric Idle. It gives the irony of having two Monty Python performers be Prime Minister. Besides, I dislike using OTL figures for anything.
 * 2) Richard Nixon- Used car salesman. It just seems to fit his character perfectly.
 * 3) "Weird Al" Yankovic: Head anchor to a satirical news program simmilar to the Colbert Report
 * 4) Stephen Colbert: Governor or Senator of the state of South Carolina

Yankovic270 21:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yank, I like the Idea for Colbert, and I had suggested he be considered a candidate for President in 2012, so being governor or senator of South Carolina (he'd be a Democrat, as he is one in real life: the ultra-conservative character on the OTL Colbert Report is that; a character), would make his a better candidate for Pres.

And KingSweden: I added a TV article, trying my best to tie it in with the rest of the TL, and expanded Garth Brooks a little their as well. I really went along mostly with OTL stuff, but changed names and shows (Like Springer instead of Seinfeld), but they sorta play along to our world.

PS: I also fixed the link on your user page for myself and 1963: No Dallas, just so you know.

Tbguy1992 06:27, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Assistance
Well, you can also contact Verence71 and Smoggy80, who also live in the UK. But yes, I'm British, and I'm certainly willing to help. Is there anything specific you would like checking up? Fegaxeyl 17:31, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Right, let's get started:


 * Socialism would probably have been a bit more successful. In OTL, Marxism was intended for developed, industrialised countries like Britain and Germany, and it only failed in Russia because it was a vastly more agricultural country. Britain, being the home of the Industrial Revolution, would likely be more successful; even partitioned, we would probably see a fairly competent and working socialist system.


 * Plymouth would be impractical for the French to land in. It's several hundred miles from London, which by the sound of it is a primary objective for the campaign. It would be far more logical to land in Kent (the bit next to Calais, with Dover) or East Anglia (Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex). The furthest you could go from London and still have a chance of being successful is Portsmouth, to the east of the Isle of Wight. The closest area to Cornwall is the Cherbourg peninsula and it would take about a day to move troops all the way there; you could manage it in a matter of hours from Calais to Dover.


 * The distance from London to Bristol is closer to 200km, although we British would measure it by miles.


 * A better forward command centre would be Birmingham, as it is fairly close to the centre of England, though at least 50km further from London. The Americans would make a point of securing it sooner rather than later.


 * If the Welsh have been at war for the last three years, they hardly need training as guerillas at the start of the Cold War.


 * If the US controls the Home Counties - the middle of England - it's likely that they'll have control of East Anglia, though not certain, making the presence of a French base to London's northeast unlikely. Remember, if you want to move from the southeast of London (Kent) to the area northeast of London (Essex) you'll have to cross the Thames Estuary.


 * Manchester and Liverpool are basically a large conurbation. You can't really control one and not control the other.


 * A two-pronged attack on Liverpool would be fairly pointless, as it borders the Mersey Estuary. Attack it from the northwest, then attack Birkenhead from the south on the other side of the Estuary. Set up some artillery looking towards Liverpool and bombard the city whilst your troops advance from the opposite direction. A naval assault would be far too complicated and expensive.

That's what I've managed to find. Hope you find these comments useful! Fegaxeyl 13:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you've overplayed the religious conflict; in OTL Britain (well, except in Northern Ireland) we're incredibly relaxed over religious issues, and have been for some time, so I can't really see the degree of Anglican v. Catholic v. Judaism etc. cleansing going on.

On the point of the time it takes to cross 100km - there's a nice saying I found somewhere, which goes: "For an American 100 years is a long time, and for an Englishman 100 miles is a long way!". To be honest your highly-mobilised American force will probably be able to move fairly fast, and given that by the sounds of it lots of geographic stalling points have been wiped away it should make the movements you make on the timescale described feasible. For the French, though, it could take longer, both due to the different opponents they are facing, and of course every British person's resentment of our French (fairly true OTL, and even more so ATL!). Landing at Portsmouth would drastically reduce their travel time, but of course they would be in a position where they could be attacked on all three sides, and may spend a long time consolidating the position whilst the Americans drive for London. Fegaxeyl 15:28, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't necessary call the Home Counties the centre of England. There are more the counties that surround London http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_counties

There is one, relatively minor point I would like to make concerning names of famous politicians from OTL in your ATL. I've always worked on the assumption that unless they were already born, or in their mother's womb at the time of the POD then it's highly unlikely that they would be born in the OTL. This would mean that Neville Chamberlain, Winston Churchill, Tony Blair and David Cameron as we know them would not have existed. Verence71 15:39, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Dover isn't between Plymouth and Portsmouth, it's far to the east. But otherwise that part of the geography is fine. Point two I've no issues with. Point three - we don't have the same degree of historical issues with the Irish as we do with the French, and in ATL it wasn't the Irish who conquered us. We'd be resentful, but with nowhere near the resistance of the French, who would be seen as an invading, rather than a stabilizing force. Fegaxeyl 20:28, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Viking Civilisation
Your article about this put me in of an AH I first created when I was at university back in the late 90s

The Second Heptarchy Verence71 17:56, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Weird America
This is a AH I created with a Napoleonic Wars POD but coming at it from a completely different than yours

Weird America

Verence71 18:01, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

More Ideas
How did you like my Weird Al idea? Making him Napoleon's World' Stephen Colbert might be interesting.

Yankovic270 19:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Since you have Jeff Foxworthy as the host of the Daily Show, what is Jon Stewart doing?

Yankovic270 20:32, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I had started making the TV article for Napoleon's World, Yank, and I made him the star of a show similar to OTL's Drew Carey Show, while, most likely, Drew Carey may not actually be of any important note in ATL. This may change later, but its a guideline for now.

Tbguy1992 00:21, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we should make him either the governor of Ohio or the mayor of Cleveland (which could be named something else.). We could also imply that he is a candidate for either the Vice Presidency or a member of Jim Carrey's Cabinet.

Yankovic270 15:34, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate Destinies
Hey Sweden, I was wondering if I could write one or two Alternate Destinies in Napoleon's World? - Mister Sheen 22:00, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks, it probably won't go against canon; and I'll write something up shortly. - Mister Sheen 23:30, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha yeah, I figured Bogart should get to be a real-life gangster, instead of just a Movie gangster; and then I figured that him and Capone may as well switch places. The Alternate Destinies are basically the coolest thing on this wiki! - Mister Sheen 00:21, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I hate the map games too; and I think 1983 takes up too much of everyone's time... I'm sure the real Alternate Histories will pick up again though. - Mister Sheen 10:13, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I had another brainwave. Here are some of my new ideas:
 * Gerald Ford- Beloved sit-com actor. Famous for playing a wise, loving and somewhat clumsy father on the longest-run family sitcom in television hsitory.
 * Elvis Presley- Much the same as Abraham Lincoln. Lives much longer than OTL due to the implausibility of an experienced General doing drugs. Played the the character General George Hammond on Stargate SG-1.


 * Colin Mochrie- Either former or incumbent Scottish First Minister

Yankovic270 22:54, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. He was born in Kilmarnock, Scotland on November 30, 1957. He could have ended up staying home instead of moving to Canada (which in TTL doesn't exsist).

Yankovic270 02:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

It might be interesting to also write an mini-bio on Connery himself. Besides, in the time after Connery was desposed (asuming each First Minister has one term only) there is time for four First Ministers, and for a fifth one to start his term.

Yankovic270 12:50, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Four years, as I believe the Scots want to avoid simularities with England as much as humanly possible. Even in OTL the Scots and the English were rivals for as long as the two countries were seperate. I believe that this rivalry, while it would turn somewhat friendly in recent years, would be enough to make Scotland choose to model their government on the United States (England's first great failure) as much as possible.

Yankovic270 19:16, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. That sounds rather good. How do you like the idea of an OTL celebrity (I don't know who) becoming an infamous serial killer in Napoleon's World. I like the idea of it being Alfred Hitchcock.

Yankovic270 20:17, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry to just jump in, but making Alfred Hitchcock a serial killer is probably the most awesome idea I have ever heard. - Mister Sheen 20:43, October 4, 2010 (UTC)\

Yes, the idea of Alfred Hitchcock going Norman Bates is too delicously ironic to pass up. Besides, he certainly looks creepy enough to be a killer. And from what I could tell (from his apearance on "What's My Line"), he was a rather quiet fellow. And if we learned anything from the past serial killers like Ed Gein (the real life inspiration for Norman Bates), creepy and quiet is a recipe for disaster.

Yankovic270 23:21, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I have another two ideas:


 * Frank Sinatra- Infamous Boss of the Sinatra crime family, the largest Mafia crime family in Nevada. Already had Mob connections in OTL.


 * Paris Hilton- Governor of New York and Sarah Palin analogue. Might be interesting to see Hilton and Palin switch roles.

Yankovic270 18:59, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

We still need to start including governors on the U.S. States page. What if H. P. Lovecraft formed a real-life Cult of Cthulhu, and became this world's L. Ron Hubbard. Or what if Kevin Conroy was a governor who has conflicted with Mark Hamill.

Yankovic270 13:33, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

What if we have the serial killer Hitchcock be a member of the Cult of Cthulhu? Could we also have L. Ron Hubbard being a respectable sicence fiction author (a la Isaac Asimov)? I based the Conroy-Hammil conlict idea on the fact that Conroy played Batman on the Batman Animated series, and Hammil played the Joker. Is it possible for the families of WWII-era German generals to have immigrated to the United States? It would be interesting to read about Erwin "Desert Fox" Rommel fighting alongside with Patton in TTL's version of WWII.

Yankovic270 20:08, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have some ideas about some cast memberrs of the '60s Batman TV show:


 * Adam West- Famous psychologist.


 * Cesar Romero- Still an actor, but famous for playing Zorro instead of the Joker. Would like to keep Romero alive long enough for him to chosen as the old Zorro in The Mask of Zorro. You have to admit that the Cuban Cesar Romero would be a better fit for the part than British Anthony Hopkins.


 * Burgess Meredith-?


 * Frank Gorshin- Actor famous for playing "tough guy" roles, which were typically gangsters. His most famous role was that of infamous gangster Humphrey Bogart.

Yankovic270 21:05, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Both Hammil and Conroy were in the OTL '90s Batman animated series. Conroy voiced Batman, and Hammil voiced the Joker. I just thought it would be appropriate if their characters conflict would extend to their Napoleon's World analogues. It might be interesting to have Hitchcock be a Manson-type, but what would Manson do? And what do you think of my ideas for the '60s Batman cast ideas?

Yankovic270 23:33, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

What if Sarah Palin was a actress known for playing action film roles (like Carrie-Anne Moss). The reason I used Moss for a specific example is because I would think it would be interesting to see Palin be Trinity. While on the topic of The Matrix, who do want to see play the other main roles (Neo, Smith, Morpheus, etc)?

Yankovic270 00:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Templates
Any other Napoleon's World nations you need templates on?

Yankovic270 15:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

East Prussia (Napoleon's World)
The maps officially treat East Prussia as still being independant. Could you please edit the article to have East Prussia retain its independance?

Yankovic270 02:38, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Napoleon's World
KingSweden, I thought I saw this earlier, but some research proved it: John Burwin in your TL is former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, at least picture wise. Is this intentional, or were you just looking for a picture?

He is decedent's of Irish Immigrants, so he could still be from Sequoyah, but I was just wondering what your thinking behind that was.

PS: Congratulations on over a year on the Wikia! Talk to you later. Tbguy1992 03:00, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have ideas for the two middle eastern figures I added:

Osama bin Laden- Either was born in the United States or immigrated and became naturalized. Real estate tychoon with a friendly rivalry with George W. Bush.

Saddam Hussein-Sucessful middle eastern comedian. Famous for making a sucessful series of Action-Comedy films with Kim Jong-Il (a la Rush Hour).

Yank 23:55, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Something like that, but with a more "Middle Eastern" spin on the comedy. How do you like my bin Laden idea?

Yank 12:26, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

I thought that if we can make Hitler and Himmler martyrs/heros, then we can make Charles de Gaulle a villain.

Yank 10:27, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't we use an alternate figure for the Prime Minister of England? Might I suggest John Lennon? My planned history of the Napoleon's World John Lennon is that he joined the English Republican Army in 1956, he serves with distinction and in the end becomes a Field Marshal in the ERA. After this distinguished service he is elected to the Parliament and serves well there. Using this to his atvantage, he easily defeats Cameron for the position of Prime Minister.

Yank 02:14, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe one of the many butterflies caused by this timeline is that the Field Marshals are appointed even during peacetime. I would still like to know any conflict or crisis that could elevate Lennon to the position.

Yank 02:19, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

I only meant that Lennon enlisted at the age of 16. I had the idea that it would be ironic that one of the most iconic pacifists of the OTL 60's would be a career military man in another world. The approximately 40 years of service would definitely net him total command of the army by the time the Connery regime fell. It would set up for an iconic scene where Lennon personally apprehends Connery. This monumental photo-op and his successes in Scotland and Cyrene would definitely give Lennon a leg up in politics. I'd bet that any candidate set before Lennon would effectively be a "sacrificial lamb" candidate. The highest rank in the OTL British Army is the Field Marshal.

Yank 04:41, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

I would believe that it is impossible for Lennon to serve 40 years in the military and not be in excellent physical and mental condition. My idea of Lennon is that he is (or was) a hands-on style commander. That means he couldn't let his physical or mental conditioning slip even slightly. That is why Presley and Lennon live such full lives in Napoleon's World. With that kind of training a discipline it would be impossible for them to even think about abusing drugs of any kind. On another note, I think we need to start a page on the Video Games of Napoleon's World.

Yank 00:16, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Matrix (Napoleon's World)
That sounds like a good idea. How about we have Jason Statham play Neo? And we have Kim Jong-Il play Seraph? Who should we have playing Smith? On another note, could we have Keanu Reeves be famous for mainly playing Bill & Ted-style characters?

Yankovic270 16:56, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'd rather focus the use of fictional actors on films or TV shows that didn't exist or wern't based on anything that exists in OTL. Who would you like to use for Smith? Could we have there be paralels between the Agents and the Churat? There are some minor characters I have some suggestions for:


 * The Oracle- Wise old black woman program who gives Neo advice. Could be either Whoopie Goldberg or Michelle Obama. I like Obama, because it is implied that the Oracle has some kind of relationship with Morpheus.


 * The Merovigian- A program responsible for an operation to help keep old programs from being erased. Does this for the power it gives him. He either has a greedy and lazy personality is based on the worst of the old French Kings or his personality is a Sarkozy impression. Any snooty French or French-American actor you know of would be perfect for the role.


 * Seraph- The Oracle's martial artist bodyguard program. As I said before, I'd like him to be played by Kim Jong-Il.


 * The Architect- The program responsible for creating every version of the Matrix. We might be able to use Hugo Weaving for him, as he is a minor character who gets about two scenes in the later films.

Yankovic270 03:54, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

That settles The Matrix. Could we discuss two other film series that I would love to use (in some form): Back to The Future and Die Hard.

Yank 02:15, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Calvin Coolidge in Napoleon's World
I was thinking about an Alternate Destiny for Calvin Coolidge (I saw that you've already put him down as Vice President from 1921-25, though). Since he was a quiet, introspective, but very witty guy; I thought he could be a Scott Fitzgerald-type author or something. - Mister Sheen 23:56, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I've always thought Coolidge had the potential to be a writer, and since he did resign as President after 1 term *here* (because he had already completed half of Warren Harding's term, and he didn't want to spend a whole Decade as President); I suppose he could resign from politics altogether after he lost that election *there*. I was thinking about him, and he might be more suited to a Robert Frost-type role: he also lived in Vermont, and he was almost the same age as Frost.
 * As for politics, I'd be happy to help out with the Napoleon's World midterms. I could help with the 1920s-1940s election articles too, if you'd like (if you haven't guessed yet; that's my "specialist" era :P ).
 * I have done some other Political stuff, especially on Great White South. If you want to take a look, is probably my favorite (even if it's not finished). - Mister Sheen 12:10, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll start working on Coolidge's Destiny; and some early 20th Century political articles. By the way, are there any articles for the current events (ie. French Civil War, Pacific War, Colonial Wars, etc.)? Oh, and I was thinking that Coolidge's son's death (aged 16) could be the reason he loses/resigns from the election. It made him severely depressed in OTL, so perhaps *there* he could become a bitter, cynical, black-comedy version of Robert Frost? - Mister Sheen 19:48, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, man! I've still got more to put into the Coolidge bio - I was thinking that one of Hitchcock's murders could be inspired by one of Coolidge's novels? And yes, the Marrakech title was partly Napoleon-inspired; but I intended it to be about an American in the French Foreign Legion fighting in Morocco in the Colonial Wars. - Mister Sheen 20:14, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well as for the Colonial Wars, can I just clarify: are they fighting for control of colonies, or are they Wars of Independence, or a mixture? I figured they were a combination of the two - perhaps France funds a rebellion in some British colonies, but when the colony becomes independent, they have to be a French puppet state.
 * As for Northampton to Marrakech, it doesn't have to be about a Legionnaire. It's just about a small-town American kid who somehow ends up in the middle of a Moroccan war. Presumably he dies, given Coolidge's bitter writing style. And a film adaptation by Kennedy is genius! The book is about some American sailors fighting in the "friendly isles" of the Pacific, which is actually a hell-hole, and it was controversial for portraying the US Navy very negatively (as drunks, gamblers and murderers), especially when they were currently fighting the War at the time. Perhaps Oahu! was also controversial, but years later it has become recognized as a modern classic? - Mister Sheen 00:05, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Russia (Napoleon's World)
What city serves as the capitol of the Russian Empire in Napoleon's World?

Yank 22:44, October 28, 2010 (UTC)