Talk:Treaty of Paris (Treaty of Amiens Map Game)

Overview
This is a discussion page for the belligerents of the Third Coalition war to agree upon a peace to end the current war. If agreed upon, the Treaty will come into effect in 1806.5.

French proposal

 * All conflicts between France and the Coalition will cease.
 * France will withdraw from Germany and Naples.
 * France will release the Netherlands and its colonies as an independent state.
 * Borders will remain as prior to the War.
 * France will remain in control of the Papal States which will be annexed by France.
 * The Holy Roman Empire will dissolve.

Signatures

 * France: Dreamcaster1 (talk) 12:49, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bavaria:
 * Sweden:
 * Austria:
 * Naples:
 * Portugal:

Austrian proposal

 * All conflicts between France and the nations of the Third Coalition will cease.
 * All French forces in Germany, Papal States, Italian Republic, and Naples will withdraw.
 * The Italian Republic and the Netherlands are to be given independence.
 * Napoleon Bonaparte will relinquish his Imperial Title and will be peacefully sent into exile to the island of Gotland in Sweden, and France shall be re-established as a constitutional monarchy with a prime minister being elected.
 * France will pay a total of one million francs in reparations to Bavaria and Naples each (the most damaged nations of the war).
 * France proper will remain as it was before the war.
 * The Holy Roman Empire will be dissolved and replaced with a German Confederation.
 * Portugal will gain France's territory in South America.
 * Naples will gain the Papal States as a protectorate/satellite state.

Signatories

 * Austria: Flag of Russia (neon).svg Alexander Romanov Flag.svg 23:51, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bavaria: redbaran45
 * France: Dreamcaster1
 * Sweden: Sithlent (talk) 22:47, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Naples: Naples (Supergamer1)
 * Portugal: Vatonica

Bavarian proposal

 * All conflicts between France and the Third Coalition will cease.
 * All French forces will withdraw from Germany and Italy.
 * France will release the Italian Republic, Papal States and the Netherlands with its colonies.
 * France will cede its territories along the west bank of the Rhine to Bavaria.
 * The Holy Roman Empire will be dissolved and replaced by a German Confederation.

Signatories

 * Bavaria: redbaran45
 * France:
 * Austria:
 * Sweden:
 * Naples:
 * Portugal:

Swedish proposal (CANCELLED)

 * All conflicts between France and the Third Coalition will cease.
 * All French forces in Germany and Italy will withdraw.
 * France will release the Italian Republic, Papal States, the Netherlands and their colonies and Sardinia-Piedmont, and will return to their borders before the War of the First Coalition.
 * France is forced to not deploy or station any troops near the Belgian border.
 * Napoleon Bonaparte will relinquish his Imperial Title and will be peacefully sent into exile to the island of Gotland in Sweden, and France shall be re-established as a constitutional monarchy with a prime minister being elected.
 * France will take full blame for the war, and will be forced to pay one million francs in war reparations to each member of the Third Coalition.
 * The Italian Republic will dissolve into the states before the War of the First Coalition.
 * The Kingdom of Naples shall be given the island of Corsica as a satellite state.
 * Portugal shall be given the French South American territory and the city of Mahe in India.
 * Austria shall be given back Belgium and the Duchy of Liege as a client state, and shall be given the towns of Puducherry and Yanam in French India.
 * The Holy Roman Empire shall be dissolved.

Signatories

 * Sweden: Sithlent (talk) 21:08, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * France:
 * Austria:
 * Bavaria:
 * Portugal:
 * Naples:

Neapolitan Proposal

 * All conflicts between France and the Third Coalition will cease.
 * Naples annexes the Eastern half of French-ruled Italy.
 * The Papal States annexes the Western half of French-ruled Italy.
 * Napoleon will abdicate and the Monarchy will be re-established.
 * The Netherlands and their colonies will be given independence.
 * France will take full blame for the war.
 * France will pay a total of one million francs of reparations to Bavaria, Naples and Sicily each (the most damaged nations of the war).
 * The Holy Roman Empire will be replaced with a German Confederation.
 * Portugal annexes all of French South America.

Signatories:

 * Naples: Naples (Supergamer1)
 * Austria:
 * Sweden:
 * Sicily: CheesyCheese (talk) 00:40, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bavaria:
 * Portugal: Vatonica (talk) 03:00, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Discussion
I think that the Swedish and Bavarian propositions are a bit too harsh, though I will modify the Austrian proposal with some ideas. Alexander 22:30, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I feel the Austrian proposal's satisfying. Never mind, I think we've come to an agreement! Sithlent (talk) 22:47, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

First of all, add me as a signatory in all of these. Second of all, almost all of these treaties are incredibly implausible, especially the Austrian one, even more so France even considering agreeing to them. What makes this even worse is that the game hasn't even reached 1806 yet. I'll let Daxus and Upvo decide their opinion on the matter. Consul Ioshua (Talk) 23:15, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Why exactly so do you find these treaties "implausible"? I'd like to know. Sithlent (talk) 23:29, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

I would agree to the Austrian terms, except that I feel that one million Francs is not enough compensation for the amount of troops and money spend on the war and the devastation inflicted on my country. Redbaran45

Portugal demands a colony in the Caribbean/South America for the war. Mayotte, Martinique, and Montserrat are examples, but we will require this to sign any treaty. Vatonica (talk) 03:25, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

I just edited the proposal, can you accept it? Sithlent (talk) 15:10, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

It's implausible because France would never surrender, it makes it worse because France would never surrender this early in the Napoleonic Wars. Consul Ioshua (Talk) 15:19, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

However, their armies are facing defeat and they may not have much of a choice. Alexander 16:47, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Well, we need to agree to one of these, and it appears my proposal is the most backed one. Alexander 16:38, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

I have come up with a proposal, if any of you don't like these. Naples (Supergamer1)

All right, after a discussion in the chat with Dream, I support the Austrian proposal IF Naples gets Eastern French Italy, the Papal states gets West French Italy and Sicily gets one million Francs.

Why would Sicily get a million francs? France never reached it, and it did not lose very much from the war. Alexander 22:03, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

I think Sicily should get something for helping in the war. You didn't even give a signature spot to them, they've been ignored. Besides, they would have been hit from the Earthquake, remember. (Supergamer1)

I propose that France should still have to give up its territory in the Rhineland (since it is German territory). Bavaria should get the southern part and Austria can get the northern part. (redbaran45)

I do think Sicily should get some compensation, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the same amount as Naples or Bavaria, since as Alexander said, Sicily didn't suffer as much destruction. CheesyCheese (talk) 00:40, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Naples just signed the Austrian proposal like everyone else. Vatonica (talk) 03:00, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't there going to be some sort of unified German state after this, red? I did not sign the proposal (and you have not given Sicily a signing spot), though I will after francs (perhaps 100,000, Cheesy) are given to Sicily and Italy is divided between the Papacy and me. Naples (Supergamer1)

Serbia would like to be seen as independent. Spar

I don't see any reason that Sicily should get paid, it was not invaded by France. Also, Serbia is not involved at all with this conflict. Now if Naples agrees to my terms, we can finally have a treaty to end the war. Alexander 18:35, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

If I get some land, Naples will agree to your treaty. Naples (Supergamer1)

There, take a look at the last point on the treaty. Also, after all of this is done, I am going to move these discussions and proposals to the talk page. Alexander 00:19, May 26, 2015 (UTC)