User talk:Lordganon



Mitro 03:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Congratulations, Lordganon


You are the winner of the 2011 Stirling Award for Best Writer in a Community Timeline in 2010 for your work in 1983: Doomsday. Though you technically won the award a while ago, I officially congratulate you for your achievements and formally present you with this award. Good luck in the next year! Red VS Blue 17:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

USSR's map
Hey LG, I'd like to ask for a favour, if that is ok with you. I was wondering if you would be willing to create a new map for Siberia after the new expansion takes place and is finished somewhere between early May-late June. I'm still sort of leaning towards a push in the direction of the north, but I was hoping to do one towards the south, around five to six months after the one in the north. I decided on this after I looked at Kazakhstan more thoroughly and realized that the USSR didn't have to a large area of Kazakhstan to reach Aralia, only around half of Aktobe and a large part of Kostanay, which would benefit them if wheat could still be grown there.

In any case, let me know if your up for it.--Vladivostok 17:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, well, lets look over what I had in mind then. I was thinking of them controling that small part of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug they aren't already. I was thinking they would expand slightly in Komi, so they would control about half of it. The Arkhangelsk oblast would then take up the majority of the expansion, around 3/4 of it within control. The whole SK annexation happens as planned of course. However, I wasn't sure about Murmansk Oblast. It is fairly empty, other than the Sapmi state, and they aren't really that friendly with the NU. Possible occupation?

Oh, and it would be great if the USSR map would have the various territories and republics highlighted, like the current one has. Once again, thanks for doing this, the current map is getting a bit grainy, lol.--Vladivostok 09:37, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well ok then, that is a bit disappointing, as one of the other reasons to enter the region was a port in Murmansk to give them some access to the Atlantic again. Although a port in Arkhangelsk or former SK would probably work just as well. My plan for announcing this was as follows: I'd announce today that the forces amassing on the USSR's western borders were indeed sent out to grab land and to formally annex SK.

Then, I'd also write that the start of this move would take place on the 5th of May as well. You don't have to finish the map by then, there is no rush, as it would take some time (a month, probably more) to acquire the land and secure it. The name I was thinking of would be something like the Northwestern Territory, but I'm open to suggestions.--Vladivostok 10:06, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I have just now realized I accidentally reverted one of your edits to the Doomsday page. Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just checking some of the edits on a mobile device and clicked revert by mistake. I welcome the edits and making the list more complete for the USSR.--Vladivostok 17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Macedonia-Serbia War
So you said that we should wait until may to explore this idea further, and I don't want to appear the one who's been waiting for like a month for this, but I wanted to hear your ideas on the subject. Ownerzmcown 17:53, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

So what do you think the land differences would be after the war? Ownerzmcown 20:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I've come to like the idea of what I would call the United Kingdom of Serbia and Macedonia, or if Montenegro is involved, it could just be called the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia. I was thinking Turkey would become involved, too, being with Macedonia in the MDL. Each of the countries getting their claims sounds good, Bosnia I would think, if involved, would get back hte other half of Bosnia. Thoughts? Ownerzmcown 21:59, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I see how that would be quite a quandry with the name, but the deal with the Greeks would make sense, as the Macedonians would have a lot to gain from making the deal. But as I remember being told, Croatia, if not attacked directly, wouldn't want to be in the war. Ownerzmcown 10:54, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

What if the country was officially named the United Kingdom of Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, and Kosovo, but popularly be called Yugoslavia. Like how the UK is not techinically called Britain, but most people call it Britain because its easier and about right. But if you want a different name, then we'll still have to think it out. As per the war, I was thinking the nationalist government would try to expand the armed forces as much as possible to give the country a big voice against any foreign claims. And if the war were to start, then I would think it might begin as either an attempt to retake southern Kosovo, or take the remainder of Bosnia, or, if we choose, to take back land lost in their war. Or it could be a combination of the three, if we choose. Ownerzmcown 22:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I get it, so the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia idea is dead then, oh well. I guess we'll still have to think of a name, would could just keep Macedonia, but that would probably piss off the conquered locals. As per the fight, I would imagine it starting as the Serbians using military threats on the Macedonians to regain southern Kosovo. The Macedonians would respond via the MDL with a threat to Serbia to renounce their action, possibly combined or followed by a naval blockade and the declaration of a no-fly zone. The no-fly zone would be enforced by Macedonian MiG-21's and Turkish F-4's stationed in Macedonia. Ownerzmcown 23:05, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

So this is a map of how I could kind of imagine the war going, but this is just a prototype that can easily be modified. What are your thought? Ownerzmcown 12:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

So I like your idea, of course details come later, but as per the naval war, I would like to keep that at a minimum. Macedonia has a lot to gain from keeping as much of the former Serbian fleet after this war as possible. By the way, BSA sounds interesting, anyway I can help with it, or you just want to keep that to yourself? Ownerzmcown 10:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

So, LG, when exactly do you plan to make this all happen anyway? Ownerzmcown 10:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could get me a map of Serbia so I could work out a definite invasion route of some kind by map? Ownerzmcown 21:58, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well the names are all Roman and Byzantine, which I don't think would slide with modern people in the area. Ownerzmcown 20:05, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, along the lines of strategy, and this is not much detail, I'd imagine the Serbians launching 2 pinsirs, one into the Albanian provinces, and one into the main Macedonian provinces, both set out to surround Skopje, while a third makes for a straight drive. A turning point would likely come around either through Skopje, or possibly shortly afterwards, if Skopjr is captured. From their I believe the Macedonians would be able to push the Serbs back, piece by piece, and eventually push into Serbia itself, based on the Serbian capital's position, it would kind of become a race against their allies to capture it. If Bosnia is attacked, they will likely try just two pinsirs to flank the entire country, and if the Bosnians do go on a counteroffensive, it is likely the maximum reach will be OTL Bosnian borders. If they attack Transylvania, I would think they would underestimate the country based on its small army, but be overwhelmed in the likely case the Transylvanians are able to mobilize a powerful force. Rhodope may take some time to be able to counterattack, considering the area the Serbs would be attacking first would have only sparce settlements. Thoughts? Ownerzmcown 12:18, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

That all sounds about right, however, along the lines of the naming problem, maybe it may be best to simply just have it officially be the United Kingdom of Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo, and Montengro, and be popularly known as South Slavia. Both of these are basic ideas, but we are kind of running out of ideas, lol. Ownerzmcown 22:23, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Promotion
2 Weeks is up. Congrats. I know it says you get to pick your own title, but Mitro picked mine so I figured I'd get to have some fun with it.Oerwinde 06:52, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I tried a few other languages and none of them felt right.Oerwinde 07:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Another one I considered was Orena Massa, swedish for Unwashed Masses.Oerwinde 07:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, LG. Do we have to bow towards Oklahoma City now?  :-)  SouthWriter 14:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Military Alliance to be announced?
I remember you saying that the military alliance between Chumash and Visaili would be announced today October 1, so I was wondering if we were still going along with that or if it was to be put on hold or what? Yes I did read the post on the WCRB news page about Visaili and the Chumash ambassador visiting. Just get back to me when you can about military operations against Ventura and Santa Cruz (I know you said Ventura specifically but Santa Cruz is still a threat, and going down the 101 is pretty much a straight shot into the central coast, also I don't know where you got "mountains between Chumash and Bakersfield" remember I live here and its pretty much a 2 and a half hour drive into Kern and a 3 hour drive into Bakersfield with only a few small hills along the way). Anyways best of luck. Riley.Konner 10:10, October 1, 2011 (UTC) EDIT reversion:Sorry I just noticed that know were in that discussion did you mention any "mountains" that's my mistake and it will never happen again. Riley.Konner 10:33, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've seen what has been posted, and thank you for updating the Chumash page. In addition to the highways mentioned, Chumash can also send a few Bradley tanks to Visali via highway 46 (though that highway is a death trap lol) and 41. Bombing also sounds good, and naval bombardments from Chumash. I'm thinking a battle between the CRS Santa Barbara and a Venturan ship being called a modern battle between the USS Constitution and the HMS Guerriere. Also I'm working on a WCRB post that is a response given by Vilodari Scholairi and his vows to crush both the countries. Also I thought of a name for the Visali-Chumash alliance I'm thinking Organized States of California or the OSC. As for Mozambique that is at the bottom of my to do list, I'll see what happens in a couple of months. Riley.Konner 12:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Siberian expansion and the areas around Novgorod, Sapmi and Finland
Hey Ganon, I'd like to propose something regarding the territory the SIberian expansion would cover.

Now, based on the map of the NU, could the Siberians take what is left of Karelia and the area between Novgorod and the NU? This would cause tension and I was thinking of adding a bit about some skirmishes or incidents happening while Northern Hammer took place. Nothing serious but I mean, why hype the return of the USSR into this area if there isn't going to be any tension. Let me know what you think and feel free to say where the borders could start between these countries.Vladivostok 18:08, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it is true I haven't been as active as I should have been, sorry about that. In any case, it is a shame that Novgorod controls that area, I was hoping the Siberians would be the ones to acquire the ruins of Leningrad, oh well.

But I was hoping for the annexation of the Kola peninsula, I wanted to have a sort of Berlin airlift event in which the Siberians try and cut off Sampi, only to have the NU basically make their efforts worthless with air support.

I didn't think it was a stretch because the troops that would occupy the area would be from Soviet Karelia, not the principal forces of the USSR.--Vladivostok 11:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, after taking a look at the geography of Kola, I see you're right, a lot of mountain ranges are on the peninsula. But they are in the west and north part of the peninsula, the south-east is mostly flat areas. Now, it is true that these areas are difficult to reach, especially because other that some smaller cities on the coast, there aren't any roads. However, they don't actually have to physically patrol the area just yet to stake their claim.

Now of course air support would be scarse at best in the first expansion, but having just a couple of planes patrol the air space in this area would come a long way in discouraging any other group from trying to take that said area.

Now I also just wanted to bring up the new map for the USSR and the area in general. As far as the rest of the expansion, are we on the same page? So, I believe we said when we originally discussed this ages ago that they would take most of Arkhangels oblast, half of the Republic of Komi and Soviet Karelia.Vladivostok 10:43, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
So I think for our next step for Qu'il Tous, its time to start getting into some of the more political details of America and France, mostly by created an article for the Prime Ministers of France, Speaker of the House, somethings for the Senate of the US, and maybe a list of British Prime Ministers. Ownerzmcown 03:34, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

War of 1812 in Montcalm Survives
Okay, just one more question for you.

(A little background info for the timeline:

During the American revolution, the British loyalists only had two other colonies left in the area, West and East Florida. I figured many would flee to the colonies to protect them from being taken over, which would mean there would be less loyalists fighting the Yankees and they would most likely surrender earlier. The British would most likely unite the colonies and try to grow its infrastructure.)

Now, when it comes to the War of 1812, I'm sure the British would aggravate the Americans (and perhaps French Canadians) enough for the Americans to declare war on them. Me and Oerwinde were having a heated debate, and I said that the US and the French would have a large enough military population to attack Florida and win, and that the United States would annex the Floridas; while Oerwinde claimed that it's more likely they would tie and Florida would remain British. Who's argument is more likely to happen? ChrisL123 22:59, December 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ohhh, I see what you're saying now. Okay, well I'm adding a minor POD to the timeline (King Louis XIV and other royalty influencing Frenchmen to immigrate to New France, thinking there would be land as prosperous as Guadeloupe, which means they have more population to withstand the British enough to have a ceasefire with them). If this ceasefire and treaty happened, is it likely that the Americans would have the same attitude in OTL and want to revolt? (by that I mean, "Hey, this money isn't going to any use if we had a ceasefire and armistice!") If not, when would they most likely revolt/declare independence? ChrisL123 05:44, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Like what? And even if it's the Huguenot that relocated to New Netherland and the UK's American colonies? ChrisL123 23:45, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I figured you'd say that. Alright, one more chance at this before I just go with the ASB route: If Quebec, victorious at the Plains of Abraham, decides to cede the  and perhaps Acadia to the UK (but keep Louisiana), would that be enough for the British or would they expect more? ChrisL123 08:42, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Good, that works for me. Now, I was thinking for the American Revolution, instead of in the 1770s, the British (who would want extra money for the Napoleonic Wars with France) would increase taxes again on the colonies, and this would most likely spark the revolution near 1805. I figure they would even surrender earlier if their main concern at that time was Napoleonic France. Would this work? ChrisL123 04:28, January 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll fix it when I have time. And perhaps you misunderstood (unless you didn't); would the "Americans" really tolerate paying more for a war that didn't really concern them (i.e., the early Napoleonic Wars between the UK and France?) I mean Napoleon (if he does come into power, which I have to ask why he wouldn't) didn't issue an attack on the colonies, just the United Kingdom, so increased taxes again wouldn't do anything for the "colonist patriots"... ChrisL123 23:02, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Me again, hopefully this'll be the final question I'll ask you. Heh. Alright, so I recently read up on Matthew C. Perry and I'm literally a noob when it comes to him. My question is, even with three countries in the way of the US and Japan, is it likely that Perry would open up relations with Japan? If not, would one of the major powers in that North American area (Alyeska, British New Caledonia or Mexico) do it? I mean I doubt Mexico would do it because of Spain's colonial and religious influence, but would British New Caledonia or Alyeska do it or would Japan remain isolated until much later? ChrisL123 06:20, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Macau
So who is in charge of Macau???Scandinator 08:06, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Heh, I already contacted him about Taiwan and he replied already, it won't be too hard to add Macau. Thanks for the heads up. ~Scan

If it isn't a problem with you, once you post up a bigger resolution, could you make all the Unions one colour, like all ANZC territory one colour etc. Not really the alliances but more like all the unions and it would have no labelling, making the map slightly clearer. I'll do it if you don't want to. BTW, do you have anything we could put up on the news? :D Imperium Guy 08:27, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Shame. I can't think of anything to put up aswell on the news, unless you count the doomsday on 21 Dec 2012 thing, lol! :D Imperium Guy 09:01, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Newolland
I'm having problems with my page, i made a change that i tried to undo but somehow instead of reverting that edit its undone a lot of my work of the last 3 months, i've tried to undo the undo but it wont let me, i dont want to mess around with it incase i end up deleting more!

If you can could you please revert it back to the page as it was on the 3rd Jan 2012?

Many Thanks --Smoggy80 16:29, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much!!--Smoggy80 18:26, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Deleting Categories
Lordganon, I put a subcategory into the wrong category, (specifically Timelines and Timelines, Napoleon's Australian Victory, which was in itself a mistake) and I cannot delete that categorisation from the bottom of the page. Could you please help, if it wasn't too much trouble? Callumthered 01:40, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and did it, but for future reference you can remove categories by going into edit mode for the articleOerwinde 05:49, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Headlines vs. News Stories
Hi, LG. Thank you for the edit of my news headline, but the fact is that I decided to put more information in the news story than in the "Headline" on the main page. I did it at least twice before, since I feel that reading more than a short paragraph in 'headline news' defeats the purpose. The line at the top of the Main Page "World Headlines" that one should go to another page "for all news." When one goes to that page, the coverage is almost always the same -- no elaboration, just a repeat of what was already reported.

There should be more activity on the Newshour, but I know how hard it is to remember to put something there. Anyway, thanks for noticing the apparent descrepacy. SouthWriter 03:06, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

United States Flag (Flintlocks Forever)
Do you think the flag of the US should be the OTL US flag, the plain red flag, the New Union USSR flag, the OTL USSR flag, or something different? Bobalugee1940 15:02, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Flintlocks Forever US Flag
Thanks for giving me your thought. I had not known that the red flag was commonly used by pirates. I was drawing off of the fact that during sieges and sea battles the red flag was normally raised to signify that the defending party would never surrender so I thought that was pretty cool. Thanks for you oppinon. Bobalugee1940 20:56, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Spotlight Request
Hi. Alternative History Wiki looks great and I've added it to the approved spotlight list. -- Wendy (talk ) 02:36, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

South Texas map
Yes, that is the plan, for South Texas to be a part of the Republic from the beginning. --BrianD 18:21, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

UIP
When can we say that "the new Siberian tanks have rolled in and taken over Tula Nadu" as I really think a small state such as Tula Nadu could hold out for so long. Plus after that, we can look at its bigger brother Tamil Nadu ;) Imperium Guy 17:55, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

So when will it be possible that the UIP won't need SAC aid anymore, or in such a small amount, it will not affect it. BTW, would the UIP be the 3rd largest counry in the world and have the most population? :) Imperium Guy 14:01, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. That gave me an idea for news! Can we say that the PM institutes huge new infrastructure plans for employment and new flyovers and roads are built to connect the cities, meanwhile new "towers" are built for housing? :D Imperium Guy 15:07, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

That's a start. Can we also announce than 20% conscription of men aged between 20-35 will be happening to serve the millitary? :D Imperium Guy 15:43, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. so for an armed forces 2 million men strong, they don't nedd conscription at all, do they? I'll start the news post, if that's okay. :D Imperium Guy 12:41, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Montcalm Survives changes
Sorry to bother you again, I just had I quick question. First, I changed most of the timeline around where France wins the Seven Years' War overall, keeping French India and New France, etc. (makes it much easier on myself) because of harsh weather conditions which daze the British (the only thing I could think of that doesn't change things globally too much). I'm sure the French Revolution would happen (if the Seven Years' War is longer than 7 years, especially). And, like you said it's unlikely Napoleon would come into power, which I'm hoping on for these new changes. So I was wondering, without Napoleon, what is likely to happen to the ? Would France just integrate them into the republic or just set them free? ChrisL123 06:22, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Recent reverts
I should hope you remember me and the details for the PRMDS article we worked out two years ago. Why have you been reverting my edits seemingly without cause? You of all users should know that I have every reason to want to improve pages you created, not harm them. I was only rewriting certain sections of background history which dealt specifically with the PRMDS organization. As we have already discussed this matter at some length, I believed there is no need to propose relatively minor changes to you first.

Thanks, --EmperorofTrebizond 18:53, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Future question
Hello again. I have a question about writing about the future in talk pages. I don't mean that I want to say what will happen, but writing about potential future events as part of current events (like the 2012 Presidential election and Arab Spring). I have some new ideas for New Union that I want to bring to discussion, and they retain to a combination of recent events, and the near future. I don't want to be breaking any rules, so I thought I would ask first. Thank you. ~Nuke


 * Thank you very much. Better safe than sorry. Also, sorry for forgetting to put my signature before. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:30, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Head of State riddle
Lordganon,

I have two seperate nations with two seperate Nation infoboxes, with two different links to two (at the moment non-existent) Head of state pages. These two nations are in personal union, and I would like both links to link to the same page. Have you seen this problem before? and if so, could you perhaps tell me how to work around it, if you can?

Thank you Callumthered 22:28, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Where Does It Go?
I was thinking of how the Second Yugoslav War is developing and how Macedonia's standing with Greece and Rhodope might change after the war is over. I would like to discuss it if you wouldn't mind. Ownerzmcown 03:12, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well I do see your point, but after Serbia is gone, where does that leave the three on the basis of standing in the Balkans. Without Serbia, Macedonia has only Greece as an apparent equal with ify relations, Croatia and Macedonia are friendly, Rhodope is too sparsely populated to pose any sort of a threat, Transylvania is also quite friendly with Macedonia. That still may leave some unanswered question between Macedonia and Greece, and where exactly is Turkey left in all of this? Ownerzmcown 01:28, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Nimitz/Vinson and all that.
Sorry, LG. I had too many pages up at one time. I am not real good at multitasking, but I was trying to "do it all at one time." Too late, I guess, I noticed that I had hit 'publish' when I meant to go back to the page to do further edits. There it sat, with conflicting info just staring the reader in the face. :-(

SouthWriter 05:59, January 17, 2012 (UTC)