Talk:Night of the Living Alternate History/Archive 1

Map Discussion and Changelog
It is quite unclear of where to post for map changes and discussion of the new map on here, i propose we make a new section and copy the chainlog. G greg e (talk)

Changelog
Original map still in use. Mscoree (talk) 14:05, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

1970.5: Expanded Bay Republic (as their expanding), addest Israel, expanded Zombies, uncolored/colored certain nations, expanded Free Alaska. Daxus Inferno (talk) 14:04, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

1971.25: Shows campaign in England, London removed, French border updated, Brittanny added to UK, Vietnam border updated, Cyprus added, Chicago area updated, infection added in northern Africa and Venezuela, Phillipines added, Pacific islands fixed. Map made by Daxus Inferno. Mscoree (talk) 00:31, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

1972.75: Added zombie movement in Africa, Asia, Middle East, and South America. Showed campaigns in North America. Added annexed Free Alaskan territory. Recolored some nations. Removed South Vietnam. Fixed islands near Japan. Added Halifax (and other nations). Mscoree (talk) 22:37, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion
Also, I'm not sure how to do the coloring for Zed, to if someone else could do that while I do political maps that would be Greeat The countries of Halifax, Wight, Sealand, and Israel need to be added. Zombie movement continues. Also Forgottonia and should be recolored, and Chicago made a similar color to Mississippi. Mscoree (talk) 02:38, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

The Republic of Ireland needs to be colored, and there needs to be light zombie infection in the Republic and heavier infection around Belfast. Mscoree (talk) 15:11, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

There is some mistakes with the map. First off, the map here seemed to be based off the Axis vs Allies The Last Round map. Here is a list of mistakes so far-


 * South America should have the borders of OTL. Currently it looks like Brazil lost some land to Peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, while Bolivia lost some land to Brazil.


 * Finland should have the post Second World War borders.


 * USSR should not have any Turkish land. Turkey should also have, as on the map it shows that Turkey doesn't have it for some reason. Lastly, Turkey shouldn't have any land in Persia.


 * The Pakistan-India border should be same as OTL; on the map it looks like Pakistan took more land from India. Bhutan should be independent; on the map it looks like India took over it. Lastly,  should be under India, not China.


 * Japan lost Taiwan, Karafuto Prefecture, and Chishima (Kuril) Islands post-war. Taiwan is independent, and Karafuto Prefecture and the Chishima Islands should be part of the USSR.


 * Malaysia should be united. On the map it looks like it fractured into smaller nations.

If there's any more mistakes feel free to add here. -Kogasa   2013年4月01日 04:33:50 (JST)

Thanks for the input. Yes, you caught me, I stole the map from "The Last Round" before resigning on it. Our trusted mapmakers (or myself) will correct the map as soon as possible. N.B: Moved your topic to the map discussion section. Mscoree (talk) 20:02, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Already doneDaxus Inferno (talk) 22:27, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

The entirety of France appears to be colored Brittanny's color. France (what remains in the south) and Brittanny (in the northwest of France) should be different colors. Mscoree (talk) 03:14, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

I'll fix it next mpa update Daxus Inferno (talk) 03:15, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

I can add the new nations to the map. In regards to zombie movement, keep in mind that the zombies don't have to move in a solid blob (how it is in Yugoslavia right now). As zombies start to spread to a new nation it should look like bacterial colonies. Mscoree (talk) 01:38, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Could the Confederate States of Halifax be reconized on the map? They are not currently on there... Thanks Dustin2557 (talk) 03:55, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Another thing I forgot to mention is that Island should be part of China. Also Karafuto Prefecture (South Sakhalin Island) should be part of USSR; its still coloured in as if it was Japanese.

On a side note, is South Korea being invaded? I don't recall any mod event or otherwise saying that North Korea is invading, unless there is something I'm missing. -Kogasa  2013年4月03日 19:31:21 (JST)

Not yet. Mscoree (talk) 18:01, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Northwest Federation has pushed the zombies further east to about Spokane. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 17:21, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Mississippi territory should control southern Illinois, south of Forgottonia. Mscoree (talk) 18:01, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Also why is there a random line through South Korea? Mscoree (talk) 20:07, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

SInce our main map maker, Daxus, is currently banned from the wiki, I ask that someone else sign up for the position of map maker for now. We are in depserate need of a new map. Mscoree (talk) 22:03, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

the map shows anchorage as belonging to free alaska, though, for now it's territory of the state of Alaska. Wegscuba (talk) 21:07, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Northern Alaska should be Free Alaskan. Northern Mexico and the midwest should be neutral. Chicago should be Illinois, but missing the area of Forgottonia, and southern tip. Mississippi should be the southern tip of Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, and western Tennessee. The Delta should be Mississippi (the state) and Arkansas. Deseret should be all of northern Utah. The Falklands should be Argentinean. Taiwan should be neutral. The islands north of Japan should be USSR. British Columbia should be a different color. Argentinean Antarctica should be roped off. Mscoree (talk) 00:38, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

I dont know if this helps, but i ran across this map with tons of subdivisions of the world, may make for easy recoloring on the fly if someone is willing to put in the work to get it up to date. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/BlankMap-World-Subdivisions.PNG

Moderator Applications
To be considered for a moderator position, please sign your name here and a short summary of why you want to become a moderator. Keep in mine the responsibility you have as a moderator and the consequences you may encounter if you do not faithfully execute your time in office.
 * CrimsonAssassin (talk) 20:15, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * You have been approved. Mscoree (talk) 23:41, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hailstormer (talk) 12:17, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * You have been approved.Mscoree (talk) 14:40, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * You should make me a moderator becuase I am usually not bias and try to keep things from falling apart Daxus Inferno (talk) 18:12, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * As mapmaker you are basically a junior moderator. Mscoree (talk) 03:15, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Zombies
I assume that the zombies are going to migrate into South America, Asia, and Africa? Daxus Inferno (talk) 02:40, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

The immediate plan right now is that the zombies will enter South America, Europe (up to the East Germany), and eventually Africa and Asia. After that it is down to the players as to their strategy to control the zombie horde.Mscoree (talk) 14:38, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ammo
How long is it planned for people to have ammo before they have to make their own? Daxus Inferno (talk) 23:51, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

In most developed countries ammo is a resource heavily stockpiled. Many ammunition factories still remain intact. Also scavenging and small gunsmiths are popular. Mscoree (talk) 02:08, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

New Names
What sounds is cooler? Vote! (as i plan on renaming my nation eventually) Daxus Inferno (talk) 02:50, March 28, 2013 (UTC) My first impression is that the third one is best, although the "K" substituting in for "C" is random. -Mscoree

How Long Should One Turn Represent?
Right now the current rule for turns is that every day a new turn is made, and that turn represents one month of in-game time. Does any one thing that this should be a longer or shorter period of time? Let me know what you think. Mscoree (talk) 14:44, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

I think maybe a season, and if there are four seasons in a year and the games starts in 1970, 4 x 43 = 172, so with the seasons the game can have 172 turns, and it can make more in-depth posts on how players deal with winter, farming etc. Daxus Inferno (talk) 14:47, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting point. Mscoree (talk) 17:03, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

or Per month, it would be the same than per season, but it would allow A much profound posting as it would not be just winter and fighting if not Life changes and National Events within the nations in a more regular base Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:54, March 28, 2013 (UTC) and it would give 516 turns

I like the season interval a bit more to be honest. If we did it by months, it'd take almost two weeks for a year to pass in the game. Not in the mood for that. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 23:58, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Although I like the idea of indepth, monthly storytelling, I doubt many others are willing to. For now let's try out seasonal turns. Mscoree (talk) 01:56, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Topics

 * Organizing Relief Efforts
 * Nuclear Weapons
 * Anti-Zombie Stradegy
 * North Yemen Civil War
 * Middle East Alliance

Attendees

 * United States of America
 * Northwestern Union (able to fly a representative in)
 * Cuba
 * Colombia
 * Chicago (diplomat survives solo flight)
 * Turkey
 * United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland
 * Saudi Arabia
 * Israel:
 * Empire City of Manhattan
 * Republic of Ireland

Relief Efforts

 * Saudi Arabia: We are willing to help with relief efforts, such as share our resources with our allies and help shelter and treat refugees.
 * Cuba: We will guive millitary support, but refuses trade support, and will not accept refugees, at risk of the zombie plague spreafing to Cuba(Since they are on a tiny island)
 * Empire City of Manhattan(ECM): Supplies will be given, but we risk no men. NYC is too overcrowded as it is, refugees will not be tolerated
 * Northwest Federation: Allowing refugees into the Puget Sound cities. All inbound refugees will be checked for bites. Can provide naval assistance.
 * Chicago: We will make an effort to send supply planes to those in need, however there is no guarentee. We will send limited military support to nations who are on excellent terms with us, such as the United States. There ais also a series of checkpoints that act as camps for surviours around the southern border of Chicago.
 * Colombia:i will be Provide Military and Trade support, but like Cuba i won't allow any Refugee enter Continental Colombia until proven they aren't infected, they can remain at San andres and Providencia archipelago i also ask other Caribbean and Mexican Gulph nations to join an alliance against the Zombies

Nuclear Weapons
Unless any one has anything else to add, this decision will be finalized.
 * United States: We propose a ban on using nuclear weapons to combat zombies. Any strike on former or current US territory will be considered an act of war
 * Saudi Arabia: We agree with the United States.
 * Cuba; Agrees
 * ECM: Agrees with the US
 * Northwest Union: Agreed
 * Turkey: We also agree with the US terms. Scorched Earth, and Search Destroy tactics should be used instead. But only on zombie infested territory where there are no live citizens.
 * Ireland: We agree with the US also.
 * United Kingdom We shall only use nuclear weapons if they are used against England first.
 * United States Proposal: No nuclear weapons will be used. Any nuclear strike, or attack on US territory or other infected areas will be considered an act of war.
 * United Kingdom: We agree to not use nuclear weapons.

Anti-Zombie Strategy

 * Saudi Arabia: We are looking into possible medications of this infection.
 * Cuba: Doctors will resume research. Scorched Earth tactic is suggested.
 * ECM: Doctors are on hte job, but nothing much more.
 * Northwest Union: Mountains provide good barriers against zombies. Thoroughly sweep infested areas as needed and able.
 * United States: We will try to quarantine the zombies within the Midwest and slowly clear as many towns as we can. We will begin utilizing some schorched earth tactics is rural, zombie-infested areas.
 * Turkey: Nations should start recruiting soldiers for biological responses.
 * Chicago: Research has begun on the Zombie virus in Chicago. We propose that in North America and Europe that zombies are surrounded and blockaded. The next phase will be to close in on the zombies in the center until there are no zombies left.

North Yemen Civil War

 * Saudi Arabia: We also want a Peace Treaty between our neighboring country, Yemen.
 * ECM: Will send a diplomat to negotiate peace

Outcome
The Annapolis Conference officially concludes, reaching the following terms:
 * All nations will make the best efforts to facilitate and support non-infected, civilian refugees. 
 * The use of nuclear weapons is banned. 
 * Striking or invading a nation’s former territory in the name of combating the zombie horde may be deemed an act of war unless given permission from that nation, or in a joint effort alongside that said nation. 
 * In North America the United States, Canada, and their respective remainder states will trap the zombie horde within the Midwest and begin using selective scorched earth tactics to clear the infected zone. 
 * Scientists will continue to research the zombie infection. 
 * The North Yemen Civil War concludes: 
 * The gradual withdrawal of the Egyptian force within a ten-month period. 
 * Cessation of all Saudi help to the royalists. 
 * The formation of a Yemen Congress of fifty, representing all factions, which would be charged with forming a transitional regime and establishing procedures for a national plebiscite to determine Yemen's future government.

TO DO LIST
Want to contribute more to this map game, but don't know where to start? Try doing one of these simple tasks, which can greatly improve the map game. Here's your opportunity to really show your creativity.

Nations
If you have not already done so, please create a short profile for your nation detailing some basic information and history. Just click on your nation below to get started. If you have created a nation, but your nation isn't list on the template, contact Mscoree so it can be added.

The above template should also appear at the bottom of your nation profile, and at the bottom of all NotLAH pages.

Feel free to start contributing to the other pages as well.

Here is an example of a nation profile: here. Copy the text on that page (in source) and paste it onto your nation page (in source), then change the information.

The Nations page is also in need of improvement. You can help by adding your nation's information.

You can also add your current territories and colonies to the Territories page.

Art
Here are some art/map/flag stuff that you can do.
 * Make flags (see below)
 * Add already existing flags to the nations on the main page

Flags
Nations that need flags. Try to be logic with flag creation by researching the region and creating a flag that positively displays that regions roots/mother country.
 * Juarez
 * Republic of Alaska (Alaskan Rebels)
 * Northwest Federation
 * Forgottonia
 * Isle of Wight
 * London
 * Northern Ireland

Wars
Navigate to the Wars page and begin adding information for each war and battle.

Here is an example of a war page: here.

Template
Can ya'll add australia/nz to the template? Thanks   OreoToast555(Talk) 23:52, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Added. Mscoree (talk) 00:08, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

May Chicago be added too?

Sure. Mscoree (talk) 01:48, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Help with Pages
Create a link to a nation page you need help developing or are just lazy with

Bay Republic

Confederate States of Halifax

Question
Is the siege of Chicago still going on or has it ended? This is UglyTurtle, Signing off. 00:20, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Officially it has ended, although now begins the long campaign to push the zombies out of Illinois. Mscoree (talk) 01:46, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Need a template?
I'm doing nation templates for all nations, just leave a reply with the link and i'll get it done. OreoToast555(Talk) 00:40, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the location of the war: 5
 * Basic earthworks, makeshift defenses, ruins: 3

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending:4

Motive

 * motive is life or death (country's sovereign existence is threatened): 10

Chance

 * UTC time: 1:24
 * Opponent's edit count: 713 (war was started by a mod event, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 7% of 713=49.91
 * 49.91xPi=156.79 6 889341
 * chance is 6

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Total: 75
 * +10

State of Alaska (US Puppet)
Location Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * next to the location of the war: 4
 * High ground/ambush: 2
 * S for supplies (+2)
 * Your current army score:10
 * motive is political: 5

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 58
 * UTC time: 1:24
 * Opponent's edit count: 893
 * 7% of 893 is 62.51
 * 62.51xPi=196.38 0 956776
 * chance is 0
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result

 * The Free Republic of Alaska manages to force the US backed Alaska state troops back in a counterattack. While the victory was sound, they do not have the rescources to pursue the troops over the border. Wegscuba (talk) 01:39, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

New Naming Policy
I know that I am probably the biggest perpetrator of this very thing I am describing, but we are now adapting a new policy toward naming pages. From now on writing, "Name (NotLAH)" is not longer acceptable. The new layout should read, "Name (Night of the Living Alternate History Map Game)". Old pages using the old format will be renamed. Mscoree (talk) 18:40, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Isn't that like um... a waste of text? OreoToast555(Talk) 19:25, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we might use up all the words on the wiki. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 20:28, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

A waste? Maybe. Inconvenient? Maybe. But did Lordganon ask that I start enforcing this? Yes. For now we can probably get away with using "NotLAH" by redirecting. Apparently there's a "wiki-wide rule" dictating that you can't use abbreviations the way we did. Mscoree (talk) 20:57, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Argument of 1970.50

 * Depth charges can't breach the tunnels, the tunnels were built to withstand the blitz and then reinforced, also, i decide where my resources are, and do you know the meaning of 'near inpregnable', hint; it means that the gangs and undead wouldn't get in and nor would the bombs. Also in the introduction to this turn it says deep, as in, not near the surface. If you can change facts to suit you, so can I which means, I can do this:
 *  London:Nukes Anglesessy. The radiation kills everyone on anglessey, the emp released knocks planes out of the sky. This occurs before your attack, so you fail, and all die.  does that seem fair? Thought not, so remove your post please.
 * This wasn't my real post, that is further up the page, I'm making a point.
 * I'm just going to remind y'all that douchebaggery is NOT mandatory. We can get Mscoree to change UK's post while we ignore London's after this is done. I think whoevere posted above me is also blind as he can not see that it is a way to piss off the UK player, and not serious Daxus Inferno (talk)
 * I'm one of those people who takes games such as this serious, but i'm just trying to help manage because Mscoree is on a vacation. However he should be back soon.
 * Alright, Edboy. Solution: We get UK to change some of their stuff and remove London's post. Simple enough Daxus Inferno (talk) 16:36, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It isn't a real post, I'm just showing how unfair it is to destroy a nation. Local Mafia Boss (talk) 16:45, March 30, 2013 (UTC) I've removed the post. now change the UKs
 * Got it Daxus.
 * If you won't change his post, can I play as someone else. 
 * Now someone fix the UK post Daxus Inferno (talk) 16:45, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Now this is me speaking as a moderator. One of the key rules of these games is that you DO NOTcross out anyones posts but your own if you are not a moderator. That is why we have moderators, so that they can analyse the posts for implausibility, and cross out anything they find. Even if you dislike a part of a post, YOU CANNOT just cross it out. If you have an issue with a post, say so underneath, then a moderator will look at it, and will decide themselves if something needs to be changed. This rule APPLIES FOR ALL POSTS, regardless of whether it is something minor you are unhappy with or something major. So please refrain from doing it again. Hailstormer (talk) 18:10, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * In terms of me as the player of the UK, i personally believe everything i said in my post is plausibe. It doesn't matter if you like it or not, if it is plausible, then it stands. If you don't believe something is plausible, then say so and one of the moderators, as i said above, will look at it for you and decide what is to be done. If they believe something is implausible, then i will change it if i have no way to counter their argument. In terms of whether or not it is fair, this is a game based on plausibility not fairness, if it is plausible, then it happens. I know that sounds harsh, but if these games were based on fairness all that would ever happen would be us attacking NPCs, and half the fun of these games is staking up against someone else's nation. I hope that cleared some of this up. Hailstormer (talk) 18:10, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks to Daxus, Hailstormer, and Edboy for regulating while I was away. London's joke post is not valid. In regards to England's post, they were attacking a ravaged city with no anti-air defenses, therefore I will allow England's attack to remain, but now begins the long siege to take back the city. Considering that London is now partially in ruin this will probably take 2-3 turns before the city is tolerable for the English to re-enter. The only thing I will edit is the severity of the subway collapse. As was pointed out, the subways are heavily reinforced and I doubt even if they were completely opened that many raiders would jump down the large hole into the flooded darkness below. Local Mafia Boss, if you do end up defeated after this siege, you will be allowed to play as some other nation, assuming that you don't meta-game or remain bias against England. Mscoree (talk) 18:29, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * English player, also try to resist the urge to bold stuff in your post unless it's diplomacy. 

Date Errors
With the fourth turn approaching, I've realized that I have been naming turns incorrectly. Each turn from now on encompasses everything from the turn name, to the next one, so each season. All turns have been renamed one fourth less. Mscoree (talk) 20:00, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Apocalypse Names
Let's Vote on what to name the apocalypse

Z-Day:
 * Wegscuba (talk) 16:04, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hailstormer (talk) 22:04, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Zed-Day:

Blood Dawn:

the Purge:
 * DeliDog (talk) 23:03, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

the Apocalypse:
 * Mscoree (talk) 22:53, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

the Cataclysm:

the Mistake:


 * Daxus Inferno (talk),

Beginning of the End:

End of the Beginning:

the Collapse:

Day-X

1968: Doomsday
 * canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk)

Day of the Dead
 * CrimsonAssassin (talk) 17:23, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Since there is a 6-way tie, I think we should use RNG to choose from one of those 6 Daxus Inferno (talk) 18:01, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

'''I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100. Ready, set, go! Mscoree (talk) 22:18, March 31, 2013 (UTC)'''

56 Daxus Inferno (talk) 23:07, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Looks like Z-Day won

'''No one got the number right, so for now Z-Day will be used. Other nations will probably adopt different names as slang. When I made the Wars page I used 'Apocalypse', but this can be changed. Mscoree (talk) 13:33, April 1, 2013 (UTC)'''

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * high ground/ambush:2
 * no defenses: 1

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:10

Motive

 * motive is social:5

Chance

 * UTC time: 4:20
 * Opponent's edit count: 759 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 6% of 759=45.54
 * 45.54xPi=143.06 8 129444
 * chance is 8

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 72
 * +10
 * leader is William Cote
 * random number(3) X 3500(US soldiers)/7500(Alaskan soldiers)=1.4(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[2]+1)/total[7]+1) + Exp[5])=5.28=6
 * Note= only one battle occurred after the Pre-Apocalypse timeline, though if those battles were not included, the general would recieve the same score. 

State of Alaska (US Puppet)
Location ​ Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1
 * S for supplies (+2)
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 67
 * UTC time: 4:20
 * Opponent's edit count: 897
 * 6% of 897 is 53.82
 * 53.82xPi=169.08 0 516616
 * chance is 0
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result

 * Using the winter weather to their advantage, The Free Republic of Alaska Drives forward, and cuts a swath through US-backed territory and captures the port of Valdez. US-backed troops from anchorage besige the city, but the Alaskan rebels hold the city, at least for the moment.

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:10
 * -1 for expansion

Motive

 * motive is social(reunification):5

Chance

 * UTC time: 10:14
 * Opponent's edit count:770(war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 6% of 770=46.2
 * 456.2xPi=145.14 1 580596
 * chance is 1

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 65
 * +10
 * leader is William Cote
 * random number(7) X 8500(US soldiers)/10000(Alaskan soldiers)=5.95(general wounded for [5.95/2=2.9=2 turns])
 * Gen[1]((wins[3]+1)/total[8]+1) + Exp[5])=5.5=6

State of Alaska (US Puppet)
Location ​Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1
 * S for supplies (+2)
 * Your current army score:10
 * Motive is Social(hatred of the enemy):5

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 65
 * UTC time: 10:14
 * Opponent's edit count: 899
 * 6% of 899 is 53.94
 * 53.94xPi=169.45 7 507735
 * chance is 7
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result

 * The seige of Valdez continues with neither side gaining the advantage. The Free alaskans do not have the manpower to take the city, but the US-backed troops are pinned down and surrounded, and cannot break the seige.The US-backed troops far slightly better, and are able to reclaim a few parts of the city.  General Cote is wounded in the chest by a sniper, and will need a few months to recover. Wegscuba (talk) 22:32, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

New Nations
Just about all of Central Europe and most of France are overrun by zombies, I think we should add new nations in these regions Daxus Inferno (talk) 01:51, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Okay I'll think of some. If anyone has any suggestions post them here. Mscoree (talk) 01:55, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Just for a few suggestions: Wegscuba (talk) 02:06, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Helvetian Confederation(in former switzerland)
 * Bavaria
 * Hesse
 * Munich
 * Peidmont
 * Venice
 * Burgundy

England
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war: 4
 * no defenses: 1

Nations Per Side on the War

 * United States (MS), Turkey (MS), Saudi Arabia (S)

Military Development

 * Your current army score: 20
 * -2 for expansion

Motive

 * motive is political: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 17:30
 * Opponent's edit count: 130
 * 6% of 770=7.8
 * 7.8 * pi = 24.5044227
 * chance is 5

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 80
 * +10
 * n/a

London
Location ​Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * no defenses: 3
 * n/a
 * Your current army score: 20
 * Motive is life or death: 10

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 73
 * UTC time: 10:14
 * Opponent's edit count: 340
 * 6% of 340 is 20.4
 * 20.4 * pi = 64.0884901
 * chance is 0
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result

 * After taking heavy causalties from the rough landing along the coastline and from the zombie horde, US and Turkish forces finally manage to penetrate the Londoners' defenses. The Londoners fall back and manange to put up a commentable fight within the subway system before being surrounded and annihilated. The city of London is officially taken by England.

Discussion
For the nations section I only used the nations who had actually pledged to invade, not the entirety of NATO, as that would probably be overkill. Mscoree (talk) 17:34, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:10
 * -1 for expansion
 * Naval: 3

Motive

 * motive is life or death: 10

Chance

 * UTC time: 10:44
 * Opponent's edit count:844(war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 9% of 844=75.96
 * 75.96xPi=238.63 5 377967
 * chance is 5

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 75
 * +10
 * leader is David Effimov
 * random number(4) X 8000(US soldiers)/11000(Alaskan soldiers)=2.9(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[7]+1)/total[9]+1) + Exp[4])=4.8=5

State of Alaska (US Puppet)
Location ​Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1
 * S for supplies (+2)
 * Your current army score:10
 * Motive is Social: 5

Chance Edit
Stability Participation
 * UTC time: 10:44
 * Opponent's edit count: 922
 * 9% of 922 is 82.98
 * 82.98xPi=260.68 9 358395
 * chance is 9
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Leader Total: 72
 * leader is Archibald Anderson
 * random number(1) X 2000(Alaskan soldiers)/8000(US soldiers)=0.25(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[0]+1)/total[0]+1) + Exp[5])=6

Result:
The Free alaskans manage to win some victories under Effimov, but the battle still remains largeley undecided.

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war:5
 * Fortifications/dug in defenses: 4

Nations Per Side on the War Edit

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development Edit

 * Your current army score:10
 * -1 for expansion

Motive Edit

 * motive is life or death: 10

Chance Edit

 * UTC time:10:45
 * Opponent's edit count:844(war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 10% of 844=84.4
 * 84.4xPi=265.15 0 419963
 * chance is 0

Stability Edit

 * 25

Participation Edit
Leader Total: 65
 * +10
 * None

State of Alaska (US Puppet) Edit
Location ​Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * next to the war: 4
 * none
 * S for supplies (+2)
 * Your current army score:10
 * Motive is Social(hatred of the enemy):5

Chance Edit
Stability Participation Total: 60
 * UTC time: 10:45
 * Opponent's edit count: 922
 * 10% of 922 is 92.2
 * 92.2xPi=289.65 4 842661
 * chance is 4
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

ResultEdit

 * The Troops around Cordoba use the defenses around the city to sheild the operations around Valdez from an immediate counterrattack. Wegscuba (talk) 23:14, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

EHU Discussion
As zombies start to come into our allied country of Morocco, who didn't have as much of an adequate military like Turkey or Israel, a flank of our alliance was given out to the infection. We must act out quickly, but first we must discuss something else, and that is the starting of a new nation. United as one we can equally distribute military technology, troops, vehicles, etc. Morocco got infected and was unable to contain it because it didn't have the adequate forces that other nations in the EHU have. Under one economy, one government, one military, and as one giant mass of land we can start a new global superpower, unified as one, with all the countries in it known as provinces, we can start one giant government. We will still be allied with NATO, and help them out in any conflicts.This new government system will work by a national congress with every province in the EHU. If an action is to be done 10 out of the 17 former nations, which will be provinces, must agree. The new congress, and capital building will most likely be at Ankara, or at Baghdad. Housing the representatives, and senators of each province. A new president will also have to be elected, but a temporary leader will be holding power until the new elected president has taken power. The nation will still be called the EHU, and under the economic iron group of Saudi Arabia, and Dubai, and the distribution of military technology, and vehicles, we can ensure, and help control the outcome of the zombie invasion. Inside our borders, and outside of our borders, and in the air, to the high seas, we can maintain our ground, and stand as an organized force against the dark days of the upcoming zombie hordes. Only as one can we change the outcome of the Eastern Hemisphere. Our government will be a Capitalist Democratic-Republic. If you are part of the EHU and want to do this please say yes, and if you don't want this to occur/don't want to join please state your reason why and we can negotiate, and reach a solution, if we can't reach a solution then you can still be part of a military alliance with us. (This next part is out of character) Turns will be taken like this, every turn a writer (most likely the person playing Turkey) will receive the message of each other provinces actions, it will all be compressed together, and as a result everybody will get their idea and action put out onto the main game page. If this doesn't work, every turn somebody from the EHU will place start a turn saying: EHU:

Then underneath that there will be something like this


 * Province of...:

The three dots is what province you are (ex: Province of Iran)

All together it will look like this

EHU:


 * Province of ...:

Now back to the discussion with the infection of Morocco. Since zombies have started showing up in Morocco, all trade must be monitered with careful inspections. All nations of the EHU should put their border units on high alert in case of infection. Walls should be built around major cities of each nation, and borders connecting to infected nations. Scorched Earth tactics have been allowed, but only to high infected areas, that are rural. There should never be civilian casualties. Remember to post to this if you're part of the EHU.

Discussion
Saudi Arabia Agrees to the idea of creating a new Nation.

Army group south
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * high ground/ambush:2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:15
 * -3 for expansion

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 11:37
 * Opponent's edit count: 874 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 12% of 874=104.88
 * 104.88xPi=329.49 0 237508
 * chance is 0

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 69
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(1) X 3500(Soviet soldiers)/7000(Alaskan soldiers)=2(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[0]+1)/total[0]+1) + Exp[8])=9

Soviet-Occupied Alaska
Location ​Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * far from the war: 5
 * high ground: 2
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 75
 * UTC time: 11:37
 * Opponent's edit count: 924
 * 12% of 924 is 110.88
 * 110.88xPi=348.33 9 79343
 * chance is 9
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Free Alaska
 Location

 Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war: 4


 * high ground/ambush: 2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)
 * -3 for expansion

Military Development

 * Your current army score:15

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 11:38
 * Opponent's edit count: 874 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 13% of 874=113.62
 * 113.62xPi=356.94 7 757301
 * chance is 7

Stability

 * 25

Participation
 Leader
 * +10

Total: 77
 * leader is Vernon Ball
 * random number(8) X 2000(Soviet soldiers)/6000(Alaskan soldiers)=2.6(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[5]+1)/total[11]+1) + Exp[8])=8.5=9

Soviet occupied Alaska
 Location

​Tactical Advantage
 * far from the war: 5

 Nations Per Side on the War
 * high ground: 2

 Military Development

 Motive
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4


 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
<p style="font-size:13px;"> Stability
 * UTC time: 11:38
 * Opponent's edit count: 924
 * 13% of 924 is 120.12
 * 120.12xPi=377.36 8 109549
 * chance is 8

<p style="font-size:13px;"> Participation
 * 25

<p style="font-size:13px;">Total: 64
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Free Alaska
<p style="font-size:13px;"> Location

<p style="font-size:13px;"> Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war: 4


 * high ground/ambush:2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)
 * -3 expansion

Military Development

 * Your current army score:10
 * Navy: 3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 11:39
 * Opponent's edit count: 874 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 14% of 874=122.36
 * 122.36xPi=384.40 5 277093
 * chance is 5

Stability

 * 25

Participation
<p style="font-size:13px;"> Leader
 * +10

<p style="font-size:13px;">Total: 66
 * leader is General David Kindrick
 * random number(6) X 1500(US soldiers)/7000(Alaskan soldiers)=1.4(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[1]+1)/total[1]+1) + Exp[2])=3

Soviet occupied Alaska
<p style="font-size:13px;"> Location

<p style="font-size:13px;">​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage
 * far from the war: 5

<p style="font-size:13px;"> Nations Per Side on the War
 * no defenses: 1

<p style="font-size:13px;"> Military Development
 * none

<p style="font-size:13px;"> Motive
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4


 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
<p style="font-size:13px;"> Stability
 * UTC time: 11:38
 * Opponent's edit count: 924
 * 14% of 924 is 129.36
 * 129.36xPi=406.39 6 425668
 * chance is 6

<p style="font-size:13px;"> Participation
 * 125

<p style="font-size:13px;">Total: 71
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result

 * Taking advantage of the political situation in Moscow, the Free Alaskans begin a three-pronged attack against the soviet-occupied regions of western Alaska. due to the unstable nature of the area, and many of the soldiers being recalled to the USSR, the attack is relativeley sucsessfull. Army Group North makes it to the outskirts of Nome, but is halted by a strong air support around the city, which is undergoing a Dunkirq-esque evacuation. Army group Central is perhaps the most sucsessful, Capturing Holy Cross, and then splitting into two Columns which capture Alakanuk, and Unalakleet. Army Group south makes it about halfway to its intended goal, Dillingham. Wegscuba (talk) 00:28, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Taking advantage of the political situation in Moscow, the Free Alaskans begin a three-pronged attack against the soviet-occupied regions of western Alaska. The central attack is relatively successful.

Discussion
Western Alaska is an independent puppet of the USSR, not a part of their nation, and therefore has a stability of 50 and and a location of 5 (capital in Bethel). Mscoree (talk) 01:25, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Your expansion is also currently -3 since you've been invading Alaska for three turns in a row.

Original Negotiation
The following has been taken from the 1971.75 turn:

'''Zombies haven't reached the Turkish border. You can't control the government of Cyprus. The Caucasus region is still under control of the Soviets. The rebels were on your side but you just attacked them. For your actions the USSR and the Warsaw pact might declare war on you. '''

'''Wait what since when were the rebels allied with us?! I mean I know the USSR would be pissed at us because of that but nothing said about the Georgian Rebels allying with us. Plus they attacked us and destroyed a convoy of trucks being sent to our refineries. Also how can the USSR send troops to invade us. They are mobilizing troops through zombie infected areas, and enemy territories. That is pretty implausible. If they were to mobilize troops, they would've taken loses form zombie hordes, and enemy attacks, since all the new regions are enemies with the USSR, and furthermore the USSR would now be known as Russia since all of it's states splitting up. It should take about two-four turns for the USSR to even reach our borders because they would have to reclaim their lost territory from zombies, and rogue nations. And with the part about the military deserting forts, that would've happened. My father served in the Soviet military, he saw his friends playing Russian Roulette to find a way out of the military life. The only thing that was keeping the chain of command together in the Soviet Military were the officers that would discipline their soldiers. Chain of command would fall apart because of the civil war in parts of the USSR that were farther away from Moscow. Moscow was where all the loyal troops of the Soviet military were housed.'''

'''The rebels weren't allied with you, but fought against common enemies. They're not invading through zombie-infested, or enemy territory, they can go right through the Caucasus region. Sure they are weakened by civil war and it might take several months before the invasion, but they will eventually retaliate. You might want to try and diplomatically patch this crisis up. I can act as the USSR using random.org where appropriate, on the talk page. If you continue with war NATO might kick you out, or you will end up nuked into the ground.'''

'''The Civil War is a small uprising affecting stability. Whatever political party is left standing in Moscow in six months will determine the USSR's fate.'''

'''The USSR wasn't really an enemy against NATO. It was more like a rivalry between the alliances to see who was more powerful. But ok I guess we can go with diplomatic path, we can start soon on the talk page. Just reply back to me a good time.'''

'''Still, I doubt NATO is in the mood to bail out Turkey when a thousand nukes are raining down upon them. '''

'''Oh and with the USSR might declare war on me, I thought it said they Have declared on me. Soooo... I just wrote a paragraph for something I misthought.'''

'''The original way I wrote it was misleading so I fixed it. Topic has been added to talk page. This conversation will be archived there.'''

Proposal
The USSR proposes the following:
 * Turkey stay neutral in the civil war
 * The USSR and Turkey maintain Status Quo
 * All stolen vessels be returned
 * All bombing in the region will cease

Discussion
Turkey:  We accept, and will return your six stolen ships, and submarines. Bombing has never occurred in the Caucasus Region, only in Georgia since they destroyed our oil shipments and attacked an airfield. We would still like to aid you in taking out the rebel nations. But what do you mean by Status Quo? '''"Status quo" as a casus belli/war objective means to go back to normal, or literally, 'the state in which'. Basically pretend this never happened. '''

Ok, well that is fine.

'''I reccomend adding information from your post to the Caucasus Region Crisis page. '''

And I will start doing that soon.

Alright the page is done.

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war: 4
 * high ground/ambush: 2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)
 * -4 for expansion

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * Naval score: 3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 4:36
 * Opponent's edit count: 922 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 13% of 922=119.86
 * 119.86xPi=376.55 1 295459
 * chance is 1

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 77
 * +10
 * leader is Vernon Ball
 * random number(4) X 4000(Soviet soldiers)/7000(Alaskan soldiers)=2.3(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[6]+1)/total[12]+1) + Exp[8])=8.5=9

Soviet occupied Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War
 * at the war: 5
 * defenses: 3

Military Development Motive
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Leader(premier)
 * UTC time: 4:36
 * Opponent's edit count: 928
 * 13% of 928 is 120.64
 * 120.64xPi=379.00 1 737729
 * chance is 1
 * 25
 * Premier is Felix Volkov
 * random number(7) X 7000(Alaskan soldiers)/4000(Soviet soldiers)=12.25(Premier is wounded and captured)
 * Gen[1]((wins[0]+1)/total[0]+1) + Exp[0])=1

Leader(general)
 * leader is Miroslav Zhdanov
 * random number(3) X 7000(Alaskan soldiers)/4000(Soviet soldiers)=5.25(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[8]+1)/total[9]+1) + Exp[7])=7.9=8

Participation Total: 67
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result
Central goup moves south and attacks Bethel, while most of the soldiers are tied up fighting on the southern front. after the days fighting, the City is taken. the house of the Soviet-Appointed Premier, Felix Volkov, is captured, after being severeley wounded in the shelling of the city.

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war: 4
 * high ground/ambush:2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)
 * -4 expansion

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 4:59
 * Opponent's edit count: 922 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 18% of 922=165.96
 * 165.96xPi=521.37 8 71679
 * chance is 8

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 75
 * +10
 * leader is General David Kindrick
 * random number(8) X 1500(US soldiers)/7000(Alaskan soldiers)=1.7(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[1]+1)/total[2]+1) + Exp[2])=2.6=3

Soviet occupied Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * far from the war: 5
 * no defenses: 1
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 66
 * UTC time: 4:59
 * Opponent's edit count: 928
 * 18% of 928 is 167.04
 * 167.04xPi=524.77 1 636856
 * chance is 1
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result: Army group north breaks through to the outskirts of Nome.

Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -4 for expansion
 * Naval: 3

Motive

 * motive is life or death: 10

Chance

 * UTC time: 5:08
 * Opponent's edit count:922(war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 13% of 922=119.86
 * 119.86xPi=376.55 1 295459
 * chance is 1

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 78
 * +10
 * leader is David Effimov
 * random number(8) X 7500(US soldiers)/10000(Alaskan soldiers)=6(general is wounded for 3 turns)
 * Gen[1]((wins[7]+1)/total[9]+1) + Exp[4])=4.8=5

State of Alaska (US Puppet)
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war:5
 * no defenses: 1
 * no supplies(surrounded)
 * Your current army score:10
 * Motive is Social: 5

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 57
 * UTC time: 5:08
 * Opponent's edit count: 928
 * 13% of 928 is 120.64
 * 120.64xPi=379.00 1 737729
 * chance is 1
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result:
The City, due to lack of supplies, becomes weaker by the day, sensing the perfect time to strike, Effimov leads a costly assault on the city, where he is also wounded. the city is secureley held.

Acquisition of a Leave of Absence
Hello all! I'm writing this to tell you all that I will be gone from Friday, April 4th, to Thursday, April 10th for a cruise and will be unable to post during that time. I request that my nation continues on the path that it is on, and does not delve radically from where it is now. Bye all, and happy spring break! EiplecOco (talk) 03:40, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Understood. Mscoree (talk) 18:08, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Introduction
The nations of NATO, to establish peace throughout the British Isles, call forth the nations of the United Kingdom, formally the kingdoms of England, Wales, Royal France and Northern Ireland, and the nation of Scotland, to end hostilities and create future guidelines for peace.

Proposal
The following is the non-negotiable proposal put forward by the United Kingdom to Scotland. There are five parts to this proposal. The first is that Scotland must immediately rejoin the United Kingdom as a member state and handover those responsible for its abandonment of the rest of the United Kingdom for trial. The second is that the Scottish government is immediately dissolved and is replaced by a small Scottish Assembly led by a First Minister, this assembly will have control of certain devolved powers chosen by the United Kingdom. These powers include and are limited to matters on culture, energy, education, enviroment, farming, health and housing within Scotland. The third point is that Scotland's military is reabsorbed into the British military and Scotland only retains a small defence force under their own control, with the United Kingdom being responsible for its overall defence. The fourth point is that all matters involving the defence and foreign affairs of Scotland shall be controlled by the United Kingdom, in other words Scotland can no longer launch attacks of their own and they can't initiate diplomacy with any state apart from the United Kingdom. The fifth and final point is that any push for independence by Scotland shall be seen as an act of war and shall be treated as such.

Does Scotland accept the terms of this proposal?

Discussion
Turkish Diplomacy:   What about the Faroe Islands shouldn't they be given back to Denmark? I mean Scotland did invade and capture the Faroe Islands.

British Diplomacy: I plan to invite Denmark into the United Kingdom at some point in the near future as they are currently being ravaged by the zombie horde and require a significant defence that they cannot muster alone. Once that occurs i plan to hand the Faroe Islands back over to the control of Denmark.

Turkish Diplomacy: Mkay.

British Diplomacy: We would like to add that if this offer is not accepted before the next season we shall launch the attack regardless of any later reply.

Australia
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war: 4
 * High ground/ambush: 2

Military Development

 * Your current army score: 20
 * Naval: 3

Motive

 * motive is political: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 11:08
 * Opponent's edit count: 996(war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 8% of 996 = 79.68
 * 79.68 * pi = 250.3221030
 * chance is 0

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader
 * +10

Total: 69

Fiji
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War
 * at the war: 5
 * High ground/ambush: 2

Military Development Motive
 * Your current army score:10
 * Motive is life or death: 10

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 66
 * UTC time: 11:08
 * Opponent's edit count: 814
 * 8% of 814 = 65.12
 * 65.12* pi = 204.580514
 * chance is 4
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result:
The invasion of Fiji is successful, and the Australians manage to begin occupying the island.

Scotland
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war: 4
 * High ground/ambush: 2

Military Development

 * Your current army score: 10
 * Naval: 3

Motive

 * motive is political: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 11:18
 * Opponent's edit count: 996(war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 8% of 996 = 79.68
 * 79.68 * pi = 250.3221030
 * chance is 0

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader
 * +10

Total: 59

Denmark
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War
 * at the war: 3
 * High ground/ambush: 2

Military Development Motive
 * Your current army score: 10
 * Motive is political: 5

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 55
 * UTC time: 11:18
 * Opponent's edit count: 39
 * 8% of 39 = 3.12
 * 3.12 * pi = 9.80176908
 * chance is 0
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result:
After a rough landing the Scottish manage to secure a foothold on the Faroe Islands.

New thing for Algorithm
The admins should add this to the algorithm.

Amount of troops/1000

I propose this because amount of troops that you send into the battle are a key factor.

I'm considering adding something like this in the future. For future reference put suggestions on the rules talk page. Mscoree (talk) 22:18, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Scotland
Location Tactical Advantage
 * at the war: 5
 * Basic earthworks, makeshift defenses, ruins: 3

Military Development

 * Your current army score: 10
 * Industrial: 4

Motive

 * Motive is life or death: 10

Chance

 * UTC time: 10:14
 * Opponent's edit count: 114
 * 4% of 114 = 4.56
 * 4.56 * pi = 14.3256625
 * chance is 3

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader
 * +10

Total: 70

Turkey
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War United Kingdom(MS), United States(S): 7
 * at the war: 2
 * No defenses, open field, etc: 1

Military Development Motive
 * Your current army score: 20
 * Expansion: -6
 * Motive is political: 5

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 59
 * UTC time: 10:14
 * Opponent's edit count: 39
 * 4% of 39 = 1.56
 * 1.56 * pi = 4.90088454
 * chance is 0
 * 20
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result:
The initial assault on Glasgow manages to be held off by the Scottish. After much intense fighting the Turkish are still unable to secure the city and are forced to retreat.

Antendess

 * Chicago (host)
 * Confederate States of Halifax
 * United States
 * Canada
 * Northwest Confederation
 * Cuba
 * Florida

Topic:
Operation: Surround and Destroy (Midwestern Campaign)

Plans
-One Area: There will be one main area of surrounding and blockading.

Pros: The ending willl be quicker

Cons: The begging will be slower

-Mulitple areas: There will be many areas of surrounding and blocakding

Pros: The begging will be quicker

Cons: The ending will be slower

Defensive Strategy: The soldiers will mainly blockade the zombies

Pros: Costs less soldier lives

Cons: Consumes time and resources

Offensive Strategy:

Pros: Consumes less time and resources

Cons: More soldier deaths

Disscussion
United States: Through Operation: Arctic Storm we plan to surround the zombies from the north and east. From there we can easily contain the zombies and slowly push into the Midwest.

Northwest Union: We plan to expand into Montana once the crisis in our nation is dealt with and annex it. We also plan to liberate more of Oregon and maybe parts of Nevada if we can.

Chicago: We thank you all for the cooperation and are wondering if a defenisive or offensive strategy is prefered once all of us reach the midwest.

Cuba: We are spliting Panama off from the Zombies to have the canal, and can be used for trade again, but its mine to own. After taken, we will airstrike areas as needed. We ask to open Desperiato Catholic Churches in youre nations.

CSH: We will allow Cuba to open Desperiato Catholic Churches as we are a Catholic country, and invite all of the nations to the UCO is not in yet.

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * high ground/ambush:2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -5 for expansion

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 8:53
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,126 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 16% of 1,126=180.16
 * 180.16xPi=565.98 9 332471
 * chance is 9

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 81
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(9) X 2000(US soldiers)/3500(Alaskan soldiers)=4.5(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[1]+1)/total[2]+1) + Exp[8])=8.66=9

State of Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * makeshift defenses: 3
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Leader
 * UTC time: 8:53
 * Opponent's edit count: 940
 * 16% of 940 is 150.4
 * 150.4xPi=472.49 5 5351
 * chance is 5
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this
 * leader is General Joe Bradley
 * random number(8) X 3500(Alaskan soldiers)/2000(US soldiers)=14(general is killed)
 * Gen[0]((wins[5]+1)/total[8]+1) + Exp[5])=0

Total: 72

Result

 * Overwhelming Free alaskan victory, though isolated pockets of US troops still there(more on actual post)

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * high ground/ambush:2

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -6 for expansion
 * Naval support:3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 8:39
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,193 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 20% of 1,193=238.6
 * 238.6xPi=749.58 4 007147
 * chance is 4

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 75
 * +10
 * leader is William Cote
 * random number(8) X 1500(US soldiers)/5000(Alaskan soldiers)=2.4(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[3]+1)/total[9]+1) + Exp[5])=5.4=6

State of Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * makeshift defenses: 3
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Total: 61
 * UTC time: 8:53
 * Opponent's edit count: 944
 * 20% of 944 is 188.8
 * 188.8xPi=593.13 2 692998
 * chance is 2
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this

Result

 * Free Alaska surrounds anchorage.

New Papacy
Following the abandonment of Rome, and the nation of Vatican City, the papacy was forced to relocated elsewhere. Currently the pope resides in Palermo, Sicily, although it is agreed that a more permanent location must be found until Italy is liberated.

Attendees

 * European
 * Central Italy
 * Sicily
 * France
 * Spain
 * Andorra
 * Austria
 * Poland
 * Sardinia
 * Corsica
 * Malta
 * Portugal
 * Ireland
 * Soviet Union
 * American
 * Brazil
 * Mexico
 * United States
 * Manhattan
 * New England
 * Colombia
 * Argentina
 * Falklands
 * Chile
 * Asian
 * Phillipines

Nominated Locations

 * Rio de Janerio, Brazil
 * Sao Paulo, Brazil
 * Buenos Aires, Argentina
 * Comodoro Rivadavia, Argentina
 * Santiago, Chile
 * Cartagena, Colombia
 * Bogota, Colombia
 * Medellin, Colombia
 * Caligari, Sardinia
 * Mexico City, Mexico
 * San Salvador, El Salvador

Discussion
(Hey, I have added Sardinia. We have close proximity to the Vatican. In addition, I nominated it, since it is the only location in Europe that really is safe. Also, since Paul VI is European, he may want the See to stay in Europe, as is traditional. Reximus55 (talk) 

''Do we have a vote? Local (talk)''

''Since there are many Catholics in South America, specifically an european style city such as Santiago or Buenos Aires. I think that should be the eventual landing spot...however, after seeing the neglect of not having the papacy in Latin America, I still think the ultimate goal should be for split residency. g_greg_e (talk) ''

Like Greg said, south america is house of several millions of catholics but alike him, my nation has never been taken by the infection being probably one of the few countries of the americas to fall at their hands, as well that it hosts a great position as its in between the americas, allowing for the pope to keep in touch with the American catholicism, and it has a direct route to the European continent, and less chances to be infected as well to influence east asia if needed, but Argentina is probably the next country that could host it atleast in the americas .Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:02, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

''I propose, on behalf of the Confederate Islands, that the Holy See be split between Buenos Aires and Cagliari, such that the Pope spends Christmas and the Southern Summer in Argentina, and Easter and the Northern Summer in the Confederate Islands. I feel that this will more than encourage devout Latin Catholics, but not shut the door on the already dying populace of European Catholocism. Reximus55 (talk) 04:18, April 15, 2013 (UTC)''

''Just wanted to add this note A few of recent places added to the list are not really even close to catholic states... such as Manhattan or New England (depending on the barriers of New England). In fact they are highly protestant in OTL'' G greg e (talk) 04:34, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

They may not be de facto Ctholic states. but they have a decently sized Cahtolic population, and therefore represent their Catholic population. Mscoree (talk) 14:06, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Okay fair enough, sounds good to me! G greg e (talk) 14:33, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

when will the pope choice would be made,  after all there only three nations viable to be host of the holy see of the Christianism,Colombia,Sardinia,and Argentina Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:55, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

Map Remake
I am remaking the map due to the fact that the map has been mishandled and has become uneditable due to blurring. OreoToast555(Talk) 06:33, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Much appricitated! G greg e (talk) 22:50, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Where am I? Yank 23:14, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the US had expanded that far (even if it did, that'd be kind of implausible) and the Northwest Federation's territory's been massively cut down. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 02:35, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Read the suggestions I wrote in the map discussion area. Mscoree (talk) 14:04, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

shouldn't there be some way to tell which areas are infested?Wegscuba (talk) 20:08, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Recent Turns
I apologize for not posting the last few days, as I have been really busy. I have posted the next turn, and hope that people get back to posting. In the future I will try to alert moderators so that they can create the turns.

Thanks,

Mscoree (talk) 00:14, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * none

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -7 for expansion
 * Naval:3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 1:44
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,243 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 9% of 1,243=111.87
 * 111.87xPi=351.44 9 970157
 * chance is 9

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 80
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(1) X 10000(US soldiers)/15000(Alaskan soldiers)=0.66 6 (general is satan fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[2]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[8])=8.75=9

State of Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * fortifications/dug in: 4
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Leader Total: 76
 * UTC time: 1:44
 * Opponent's edit count: 949
 * 9% of 949 is 85.41
 * 85.41xPi=268.32 3 428543
 * chance is 3
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this
 * leader is General Adam Warner
 * random number(2) X 15000(Alaskan soldiers)/10000(US soldiers)=3(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[1]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[4])=4.5=5

Result

 * Free alaskan Troops advance as far as Yakutat by land. Amphibious assault forces take Prince of Wales Island, and then land at Ketchikan, taking the city, but not advancing far past it. Forces are pinned down on the southern tip of Baranof island, and the eastern edge of Kupreanof Island. Alaskan State troops regroup at Admirality Island, Sitka, and Petersburg, and begin a strong defense.

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * none

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -8 for expansion
 * Naval:3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 8:16
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,256 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 15% of 1,256=188.4
 * 188.4xPi=591.87 6 055936
 * chance is 6

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 77
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(5) X 10000(US soldiers)/15000(Alaskan soldiers)=3.33(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[2]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[8])=8.75=9

State of Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * fortifications/dug in: 4
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Leader Total: 73
 * UTC time: 8:16
 * Opponent's edit count: 953
 * 15% of 953 is 142.95
 * 142.95xPi=449.09 0 669831
 * chance is 0
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this
 * leader is General Adam Warner
 * random number(2) X 15000(Alaskan soldiers)/10000(US soldiers)=3(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[1]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[4])=4.5=5

Result

 * Free alaskan Troops break out of Yakutat, and Ketchikan. Kupreanof Island is completeley taken by Free Alaskan troops. Alaskan State troops hold their lines at Admirality Island and Sitka.

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * none

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -9 for expansion
 * Naval:3

Motive Edit

 * motive is social: 5

Chance Edit

 * UTC time: 10:11
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,285 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 3% of 1,285=38.55
 * 38.55xPi=121.10 8 396796
 * chance is 8

Stability Edit

 * 25

Participation Edit
Leader Total: 78
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(9) X 10000(US soldiers)/15000(Alaskan soldiers)=5.3(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[2]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[8])=8.75=9

State of Alaska Edit
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * fortifications/dug in: 4
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance Edit
Stability Participation Leader Total: 80
 * UTC time:10:11
 * Opponent's edit count: 960
 * 3% of 960 is 28.8
 * 28.8xPi=90.47 7 8684234
 * chance is 7
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this
 * leader is General Adam Warner
 * random number(4) X 15000(Alaskan soldiers)/10000(US soldiers)=6(general is wounded for 3 turns)
 * Gen[1]((wins[1]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[4])=4.5=5

Result

 * Free alaskan Troops withdrawl form sitka, and regroup in the southernly part of the island

rich text
can someone fix the rich text all over the page?Wegscuba (talk) 00:46, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Problem-

All words converted

I was changing something inplausible and i went afk and when i got back it said someone else had published something and suddenly all the words were in numbers Emperor Romanus (talk) 09:22, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Firstly, you probably had a edit conflict. To prevent them try to spend as little time editing as possible (by pasting in). Secondly, make sure you paste in source mode. It helps prevent the error where code is all over the page. Mscoree (talk) 13:02, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * none

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -10 for expansion
 * Naval:3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 2:08
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,331 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 10% of 1,331=133.1
 * 133.1xPi=418.14 5 982193
 * chance is 5

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 75
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(7) X 10000(US soldiers)/15000(Alaskan soldiers)=4.7(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[2]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[8])=8.75=9

State of Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * fortifications/dug in: 4
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Leader Total: 64
 * UTC time:2:08
 * Opponent's edit count: 963
 * 10% of 963 is 96.3
 * 96.3xPi=302.53 5 372541
 * chance is 5
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this
 * leader is General Adam Warner, who is out of commission

Result

 * Free alaskan Troops attack and capture Sitka, and capture Baranof island and Chichagof Island. All islands in the inside passage are now controlled by free alaskan troops, except for Admirality Island. Northern forces advance to glacier bay. Southern forces advance but are stopped at Wrangell.

<u style="font-weight:bold;">Free Alaska
Location Tactical Advantage
 * next to the war:4
 * none

Nations Per Side on the War

 * S for supplies (+2)

Military Development

 * Your current army score:20
 * -11 for expansion
 * Naval:3

Motive

 * motive is social: 5

Chance

 * UTC time: 8:18
 * Opponent's edit count: 1,341 (war is against NPC, so I used Mscoree's edit count)
 * 17% of 1,341=227.97
 * 227.97xPi=716.18 8 877239
 * chance is 8

Stability

 * 25

Participation
Leader Total: 77
 * +10
 * leader is General Todd Hardwick
 * random number(7) X 10000(US soldiers)/15000(Alaskan soldiers)=4.7(general is fine)
 * Gen[1]((wins[2]+1)/total[3]+1) + Exp[8])=8.75=9

State of Alaska
Location ​<u style="font-style:inherit;">Tactical Advantage Nations Per Side on the War Military Development Motive
 * at the war: 5
 * major fortifications:5
 * none
 * Your current army score:10
 * Industry for defending: 4
 * Motive is life or death (country's soverign existence is threatened):10

Chance
Stability Participation Leader Total: 68
 * UTC time:8:18
 * Opponent's edit count: 965
 * 17% of 965 is 164.05
 * 164.05xPi=515.37 8 274821
 * chance is 8
 * 25
 * All nations get a +10 on this
 * leader is General Adam Warner, who is out of commission

Result

 * Free alaskan Troops launch a costly assault on Admirality island, and take it. in the west, troops advance to the outskirts of Skagway, and in the South, troops move to the outskirts of Juneau.