Talk:London, ON (1983: Doomsday)

Kitchener-Waterloo and London are both about the same size in population, education, and industry.

Lordganon 14:18, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'll wait for it to be flushed out more before I make a final judgement but I find it odd that London and Kitchener-Waterloo would be in conflict. --GOPZACK 16:16, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting inspiration from Jericho. Kitchener is going to get hit harder by refugees, and the Kitchener metro area is larger. They're going to have a harder time feeding their people, more unrest from the refugees, and London is more worried about making sure they don't collapse than helping others and Kitchener is going to get jealous. Its mostly going to be skirmishes between groups, kind of like supporters of rival sports teams having at it, nothing really official but it strains relations.Oerwinde 19:54, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Erie Canal
The status of the Erie Canal must also be explored. For Port Stanley to be of any use ship will need that canal to get up to Lake Ontario through the St.Lawrence river to the Atlantic. --GOPZACK 16:16, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think if both Albany and Buffalo are hit, this isn't going to be in operation. Right now I was seeing it as more a transportation corridor from London to Toledo and Pennsylvania, with small amounts of shipping between the three.Oerwinde 19:54, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Scratch that I misspoke, (or mistyped as the case may be) I meant the Welland Canal! --GOPZACK 20:06, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Bio-fuel
In the article, both food crops and algae are said to be sorces of "biodiesel." Information that I have read, though more modern technology than that used to make diesel from vegetable oil, has algae being used to make gasoline rather than diesel. This would be a boon to automobile use, making travel between survivor city-states possible as well as making single person transport (such as taxicabs) a viable part of the local economy as well. SouthWriter 23:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Biogas (anerobic digestion of food waste and manure) and biomass (solid fuel from wood waste and agricultural waste) would also be important energy sources. In OTL, both biogas and biomass are heavily encouraged and incented in the agricultural sector in SW Ontario, and biomass is being piloted in the Lambton coal-fired generating station in Sarnia.

There are natural limits to how much biofuels can replace fossil fuel use, however with only 400,000 people to support in the DD ATL, London and SW Ontario could produce enough biofuels to support essential services.

Thebaron88 18:38, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Justin Bieber is a Londonite!
Do I really have to explain it? He was born in London in '94, so it looks like even a nuclear war would not prevent Bieber Fever... Arstarpool 01:32, August 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm all for the success of the young man in our time line. But how would he "go platinum" in a world without YouTube? Actually, he could be a sensation in all of the whole United Communities, at least. By 2010, if his family toured with him, he could live on a house boat and go to all ports of call on the Great Lakes. Perhaps he'd get the attention of producers in the Virginian Republic as well. Possibilities are certainly there. --SouthWriter 14:23, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I personally loathe Justin Bieber's music, but in '83: Doomsday world there isn't that much choice. While we are on the subject of music, there could be an American Idol-like contest in Virginia, run by the main Virginian recording company, and most of the major musicians in Virginia spring from this contest. The question is: Who should be the judges?

Yankovic270 18:07, August 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not to get into that here (this is a Justin post), but I'm sure there would be venues for all kinds of talent in the world - even the "fourth world" (I just coined that one) in TTL. Acoustic guitars and old band instruments for accompaniment, a talented young singer (or some that survived from the old days), and "Virginia's Got Talent"!  Think about it, search the YouTube for talent, and the admins (including you and Alex) can be the judges.  As creator and sustainer of  the Virginia Republic you can set the rules.  Only stipulation, you cannot vote for your own nomination.  Nominations are open to all users.  Enough of that. Post the proposal and see where it leads us!  :-)

--SouthWriter 19:13, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously?
I think that Canada would have got there by now...I mean, it has contact with Pennsylvania! There's no way it or Kitchener wouldn't want to rejoin either. It's just not possible Michael Douglas 01:08, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Canada isn't there yet. Both will rejoin once they are. We need to rewrite the Saguenay war in order to take Ontario into account first.Oerwinde 07:20, September 7, 2010 (UTC)