Talk:California Republic (1983: Doomsday)

Arstarpool - this proposal actually conflicts with the prior existing suggested by fxgentleman. This either needs to be rectified to fit the QSS of the timeline, or it needs to be retracted (although I appreciate the effort!) Louisiannan 23:00, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out to me! I decided to move the location to the western coastline to avoid complications. If there are any Cali residents out there, (or anyone who has extensive knowledge of the area, please point out any useful tidbits i can use to help, and feel free to help further expand this proposal Arstarpool 23:38, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm really starting to fear we're reaching what Mitro called the "Plausibility Singularity", beyond which almost any new republics or commonwealths are not plausible. Especially in the West, which is supposed to be such a wasteland. I don't want to rain on this, but if the West gets any more full, it's going to get hard to take this whole "apocalypse" thing seriously. Benkarnell 23:59, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

The idea of the state being in the northernmost reaches of the state of California also conflicts with canon. It is well-known canon that the area that you say is part of the state of California is actually part of the Municipal States of the Pacific. The place I selected for it has no current states in it, and the FEMA map has it being target free. And I don't think we are reaching the plausibility singularity. That is still, hopefully, far away. The state of California is the largest state in the US population wise, and the third largest in area. There are just as many opportunities for survivors as any other state. And could you please try to play nice with the other children Ben?

Yankovic270 00:29, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I would rather have the nation assume the name "California Republic", for the nation that existed briefly before statehood.

Yankovic270 00:36, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Ben. With there being an organized presence on pretty much every state, I think we have room for maybe.... 3 more nations in America. And to Yank's suggestion, I had pondered on naming it the California Republic, and dont get me wrong, it sounds pretty cool, but one thing I frequently notice in this little dystopia is the abundance of "Republics". The Republic of Lakota, the Virginian Republic, the Republic of South Florida, and many others seem to taint the originality of the post-Doomsday nations. I chose to name it the Commonwealth of California because I aimed at originality rather than comformity. However, looking at this, I realize that the word "Commonwealth" is most frequently used in relation to Australia and New Zealand. If you have any other ideas on names, holler out. Arstarpool 01:04, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The location of the country in the map doesn't have a coast, and thus the Californians would not have a navy of any kind.

Yankovic270 01:31, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mmkay. Arstarpool 01:39, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * The USA has a history of Commonwealths, so the name's not so bad. The problem, as I see it, is that individually there's nothing whatsoever wrong with all of these Republics and so forth, but collectively they result in a world that is very far from the one presented in the general narrative. We end up saying, "The US is a wasteland where brutal warlords roam the scarred countryside. Where are they? Somewhere in between all these pleasant democracies that fill the entire map." We're simply at the point where more nations, especially positive, stable ones, aren't going to be easy to fit in. Nobody's fault. But it's where we're at now, in my judgment. Benkarnell 02:58, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, Ben. I think we've hit saturation point. Louisiannan 14:20, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have already moved on from North America. I have started creating articles for the nations people ignorre.

Yankovic270 15:00, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

To use a chliche: We have a situation on our hands! The plausibility singularity for North America has been reached!HAD 16:47, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

great page caint wait for more.Wingman1 17:59, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Plausibility singularity, eh? I can't really argue on this one. If you look at the map, there is a nation on every corner of the continent. From the Alaskan Free State to the Republic of South Florida, what was supposed to be a wastleand has turned into a collection of jolly old communities. Would it be safe to say that this article will be marked as obsolete? If there is any changes I may make so it may be closer to canon, please let me know. If not, whatever. Arstarpool 23:04, April 28, 2010 (UTC)