User talk:Lordganon



Mitro 03:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Archive

Congratulations
Congratulations, you are now a Lieutenant in the TSPTF. I would like to spend sometime discussing those powers:


 * You should now notice a red button at the top of every article with the word "Delete". You can use this to delete articles, obviously. Use this power sparingly and always stay within the framework of the Deletion Policy. The policy itself was passed with little discussion, so if you have any suggestions or comments regarding it I would be glad to hear it.
 * You can also block users from editing. This can be done by clicking on the History page for articles or the Contributions tab on editor's user pages. Again, use this sparingly. This is our most destructive tool. We don't have a policy on this, but there is a general custom that has been followed: always assume good faith with edits (unless obviously vandalism), warn before blocking (try using the three strikes approach) and start with short block durations for first time offendors. Generally other administrators will not interfere with your decisions regarding blocks, as long as it appears fair on its face. Permanent blocks, however, must be brought before the TSPTF as a whole and will only be confirmed if there is a 2/3 approval.
 * You will also notice a button on the top of every article that says "Protect". With this you can prevent certain people from editing a single article. The first level prevents anons and new users from editing an article. The second level limits editing only to administrators. Use this to prevent excessive vanadalism or to prevent edit wars between users.
 * There are other obscure powers that are not used often. If you have any questions on those or the ones I mentioned above, feel free to ask me.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck. Sorry for not doing this sooner, but I just got back from my honeymoon and I am trying to get my life back in order. Mitro 21:33, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Lordganon, on becoming a Lieutenant!BrianD 21:45, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

I did actually. We went on a cruise to Cozumel and Costa Maya over New Years. I got to celebrate the start of 2011 while on a ship! Mitro 19:23, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

A Thank You From A Friend
I've always appreciated the assistance with categorizing my pages (I'm a bit scatterbrained sometimes and forget to do these things properly) but I never realized you were such a fan of the Napoleon's World TL until I spotted your generous nomination on the Awards page. It's an honor to have loyal readers such as yourself, Mister Sheen and Tbguy (and enthusiastic contributors such as Yank) who enjoy my work. Thank you so much for the nomination (though I can't, in good conscience, vote for my TL over 1983: Doomsday). If you ever have ideas you want to pitch me for NW, don't hesitate, I'm always pumped to hear suggestions.

KingSweden 07:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you like it. You know, the war itself I've wrapped up, I'm just touching up on the aftermath bits.

Featured this month!

KingSweden 21:30, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Doomsday
I think I'll stick with the Kerr Republic. I might try making other pages, but I'd like to create a survivor state in a place I know.

CrimsonAssassin 19:10, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The Ancient and the New
Hey I've been noticing that you've been adding all the categories on my new timeline The Ancient and the New.\

Thanks for doing that.

What do you think of it so far? Does it interest you?

-Thanks

Flagman Flagmania 03:38, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Anon "68"
I am not sure what this anonymous user is up to, but placing information on obsolete articles seems a benign enough activity. I would not agree that such would amount to "vandalism." I warned him to leave active articles alone, for messing with the content of canon is clearly improper and CAN be considered vandalism in many cases. If "68" takes off the 'obsolete' tag, that would be disruptive and certainly vandalism (or we would have to move in block him for such actions). Likewise if he added such a tag to an active article without following established protocol.

Having said that, since this user seems to be determined to stay "anonymous" (though the writer seems to be the same, and thus is 'known' to us), it may be prudent to initiate a block on this IP. If he then found himself unable to "contribute" on our wiki, he might seek to co-operate and play by the rules. SouthWriter 02:23, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reverted edit to Rhodope
May I ask why you reverted the edit? It was just a small one, putting the opening words in bold-face. Isn't that the standard on all wikis? 18:22, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I was unaware that that element of formatting could change. My bad. 20:13, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * IMO, bolding the subject matter of an article does not look bad. Nevertheless to avoid an unecessary edit war I started a new topic on the main talk page that I hope you check out.  Same goes for you Arma if you see this.  Mitro 20:15, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Lordganon


You are the winner of the 2011 Stirling Award for Best Writer in a Community Timeline in 2010 for your work in 1983: Doomsday. Though you technically won the award a while ago, I officially congratulate you for your achievements and formally present you with this award. Good luck in the next year! Red VS Blue 17:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
Hey LG, as I've seen, you've been able to observe my new article Qu'il Tous and I wanted to know if you want to work with me on it as a joint project. Ownerzmcown 04:40, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Question ?
Who's the owner of North American Union so i can ask if i can adopted it. Alterman09 14:07 January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nouakchott (1983: Doomsday)
I did my research on the subject, and there's a few things you may want to keep in mind when working on the country, should you choose to follow through with it.
 * Economy. The economy of Mauritania before DD was centered around iron ore and fishing.
 * With the de-industrialization of the world, iron would be a weak source of income if at all.
 * Fishing may have been damaged as well; the area could have been affected by radiation in water, which could have killed fish. Radiation from Spain and the UK could have flowed down the Canary islands ocean current into the area. Similarly, the Equatorial counter could bring radiation from Cuba.
 * You should look into seeing who takes control of the Chinguetti oil field, which could bring a lot of income to Mauritania. Keep in mind, however, that this thing was only discovered in the 21st century OTL.
 * Goods. The deep-water port of Nouakchott was only opened in 1986, after doomsday. Lack of food and water would kill off a lot of people, especially the majority living in the slums. Those who survived would undoubtedly be a threat to any government.
 * Poverty. The country would be extremely poor, especially with lack of imports. We could expect it to enter a vicious circle of poverty; nobody wants to trade with it because it's poor, and hence becomes poorer, so on and so forth.

There are my two cents. If you want, we could cooperate on the article. Hope this helps you. 17:06, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's all good. I just wanted to inform you about what's going on over there, and the available resources. 17:20, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

1983: Doomsday
Hey LG, what other places are there left for a new country in 1983: Doomsday? Ownerzmcown 23:57, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF- lieutenancy
Thanks for thinking of me to upgrade from constable to lieutenant, but at the moment i'm happy just being a constable, i dont really have the computer skills needed for the upgrade. thanks anyway--Smoggy80 19:25, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF: Re
Hi Lordganon! Well, this of TSPTF is new for me, just now i read more about this. jeje But, if i can help to the wiki in somehow, i would be glad and honored. What i should do? Regards --Katholico 00:41, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

OK! Thanks very much Lordganon!! :D --Katholico 22:45, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Your Query
I'd have to give it some thought. As a student I'm often very busy with my studies and don't have a ton of time to be combing other people's articles for errors or adding categories or the such, and I'm not SUPER comfortable with a lot of the wikilanguage used in coding and categories and templates and whatnot. HOWEVER, I am very level-headed and good at negotiating, so if the TSPTF needs someone to help settle disputes in edit wars (although now that She-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named seems to be gone, the need for that seems to have dwindled.)

In short, let me think about it. I'm honored by the offer though.

Also, noticed you were Canadian. You might get a kick out of these:

Kialgory

Sahalee

Quad-Cities (Napoleon's World)

KingSweden 05:06, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'll give it some thought. If there's a vacancy, I'd be honored to be nominated and let the rest of the contributors decide by vote, I think it's fairest for them to decide who's going to be combing through their articles haha.

And yes, they are. Had to Russianize some elements of Alaska/Canada (f.ex. Anchorage becomes Aleksandrgrad, Juneau becomes Yunova, etc.) I inflated the populations of Kialgory/Evgenigrad a little bit though since they seem to be a tad bit more habitable than Alaska, and since the Alaskans failed to capture their real prize, OTL Vancouver metro area and Washington state in the Alaskan War.

KingSweden 07:58, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think I have Kialgory a bit bigger since it is RIGHT on the US border, plus it is further south (warmer, right?) but they are the Nos. 1 and 2 cities in Alaska population-wise and economic-wise.

Interesting! Well I still think the proximity of Kialgory to the American border would have a San Diego/Tijuana like effect (or Vancouver, BC's proximity to my own hometown of Seattle). Residents of Montana would likely have work in Kialgory, much like Mexicans in Tijuana work in San Diego, and cross the border regularly into the large city.

KingSweden 06:00, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, if I'm elected by other contributors after being nominated, I'd be honored.

KingSweden 06:38, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

South pole Republic of alaska
I see you are planning to dealte the blog on Republic of alaska in south pole. i am doing my best to put info on its involment in the south pole check ive add that it put a rescerch center on the south pole. (sorry for bad spelling cause am trying to double write)

~
Am sorry abount my edit to the republic of alaska but i just have a few question

(1)if alaska has no point in this timeline why is it their

(2)i thought everyone could edit

(3)are you like a admin?

(The Republic of freedom)
Ok i understand now that i have to ask the maker of the timeline,s first (but i can make my own alt history,s right?) also send my sorry,s to maker of great white pole.(you can dealte the thing on republic of alaska)

(The Republic of freedom)
Ok i understand now that i have to ask the maker of the timeline,s first (but i can make my own alt history,s right?) also send my sorry,s to maker of great white pole.(you can dealte the thing on republic of alaska)

Error
There was an error in the last attempt that I made, so it came out like that. Two duplicates, and I don't know how to delete it.

Age of Darkness
I changed the dates, it wasn't very hard. Is the current version acceptable?

"impossible to happen" is the very definition of quite a few alt hists here. I don't see why "solar storm" is any different from "hitler wins" or "America nukes Russia".

...so you'd be satisfied if I said something to the effect of "Great depression got worse" instead of "solar storm"?Wanderingmagus 16:30, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

States of the United States
Thanks for the corrections. I sort of hurried through with the article. I has so much trouble with the formatting that the spelling and links were secondary. SouthWriter 15:27, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Some Food for Thought on Greece
Sorry, I have a mountain of homework to go and the spine of a 60 year old at nine days from 17, so I can't stay for long ;).
 * I've just completed a unit on Russia in my AP Comparitive Government and Politics and I came across something rather interesting. In the Russian language there are two words for "Russian", one meaning a citizen of the Russian Federation and another for the Russian-ethnicity. With Greece being highly multinational now (you have Greeks, the Tsakonians being encouraged to nationalise, Albanians, Bulgarians, Copts, Arabs, Grikos, and Italians), we Greeks might need to follow suit. Perhaps, once the Monarchy is called into being by the referendum, the state is actually the Roman Empire? Now I know it sounds sickeningly-nationalistic, but at it height Rome was multinational and thus all the ethnicities in this new Kingdom could call themselves "Romans" without fearing Hellenisation. Or, if you'd prefer something else... We Greeks have three words for ourselves: 'Graikoi', 'Ellines', and 'Romaioi'. 'Romanos' fell out of favour during the Revolution because for some reason the Westernised-Nationalists wanted to primarily call on their Archaic-roots (why, I don't know). 'Graikos' fell out fairly recently because I was told that's what the Turks called us. Thus in the modern language, 'Ellinas' has solidified as the word for ourselves. But post foundation of the Monarchy, we could bring one or even both of the words back. 'Romaioi' for ethnic-Greeks like myself and 'Graikoi' or 'Ellines'for citizens of the Kingdom of Greece regardless of ethnicity or religion. Whichever combination-pair you like I'll be happy with.

Mr.Xeight 03:43, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Mr. Ganon, I don't think you understand- the word for Roman wouldn't remind us of a foreign domination because we are Roman. If anything it'd remind others of foreign-domination. Mr.Xeight 22:10, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Games being made category
Why did you remove those games from the Games Being Made category? I wasn’t doing that for points, you know. PitaKang 23:00, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry for the outburst. PitaKang 23:05, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Maps?
this must be embarrising and im problay the only that doest know how to make a map on this wiki...well can u tell how u make a map on the computer?

Alterman09 18:59 February 17,2011 (UTC)

KFC
LG, thanks for adding the infobox on the Kentucky Fried Chicken page! BrianD 00:06, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

My Timeline
I like to say thanks for making some edits on my kaiser,s empire page it be good if you can continue to help and tell me if ive left something out or if i made a mistake. (ow ps ive notice these game map things how do they work?) ~theblackeagle

Deletion
Why did you delete my Hanthawaddy (Principia Moderni) article? I was planning on expanding it when I got the time. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 20:06, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was not deleted, you renamed it to Profile of Hanthawaddy (Principia Moderni). LG was just deleting the redirect.  Mitro 03:52, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

I wrote "Hanthawaddy is a country" or something like that as a filler because I need to work on other TLs before I get back to it to expanding it. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 04:25, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

One's going to be a list of facts and figures for quick and easy reference. The other is an actual article format like Mexico (1983: Doomsday). Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 17:54, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay if you really care, I'll move the data-sheet to my sandbox and keep Hanthawaddy (Principia Moderni). But:
 * If you haven't noticed, I set the standards for that game and I'm trying to promote a move towards real articles. Everyone else created their data sheet after I created mine.
 * The system has been used successfully on Conworlds for maybe two years because it provides easy reference.
 * Everyone else has been using the data-sheet, and they would have to do the same transition that I would. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk)  05:23, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hold on. Show me where it says "redundancy" is a reason for deletion. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 06:06, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ip address
Can you look up user ip addresses? I want to know which one User:Mr.r is using. Mitro 19:27, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I found it. For a second I thought he was Owen (bad spelling/grammar and keeps mentioning him) but his ip is located in the US while all of Owen's have been traced to the UK.  Mitro 19:36, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sadly I do not have a secret way of finding ip addresses, I simply went on to the history of one of his tls and found an ip address that almost exclusively edited his articles. I assumed it was his and was rewarded when I looked through his contributions and noticed he signed a talk page with his user name despite editing as an anon at the time.  I think we have to actually go to wikia to learn the ip address of a logged in user.  Mitro 14:06, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Africa
Hey, I'm wondering what drawing program your using? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 04:52, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

OK. That was my main tool for a couple of years until my X11 broke down. I noticed when you uploaded the Africa map, the resolution went down from 1000x1000 to 600x600, and it got blurry. I was wondering if there was a way to avoid that. You have a Mac, correct? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:08, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it is kinda blurry. I fixed it, and I'm going to upload it soon. If you have a Windows, maybe Paint is better, because there shouldn't be a risk of blurriness. Idk what they've done with it since the old version I'm familiar with, but yeah… Kinda random. Hopefully Gimp doesn't act up in the future. It's sort of a problem on map games, that 80% of uploads by players turn out in lower resolution. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:16, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Uhh thanks for the rudeness. So I made a mistake. Big deal. That took a lot of work, and I fixed the blurriness… Detectivekenny (Info; Talk)  04:54, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Delete
Thanks for telling me, LG. Didn't know until know. By the way, on NationStates I'm making an Althistory Wikia region, if you're on, you can join! The Passcode is Althistory. Thanks! PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 23:30, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Russian Federation Deletion
As I was changing the page to at least fit as a proposal (adding template and changing "description") you add the "delete" template! Actually, there is an open invitation on the Two Am homepage for proposals. I am co-admin for the ALT and it is in total rewrite as of now. Neither Nuke nor I have worked on it in a while, so any "new blood" can't hurt -- as long as it is as a proposal.

The format the anonymous editor used is rather basic, and doesn't take up much space. Nuke and I will look it over and decide whether to use any of the proposed perimeters. At least we have a place holder for when we get around to building the time line again. Thanks for catching the "intrusion" though. If you have any suggestions on how we can improve "Two Americas," please feel free to offer them. SouthWriter 19:45, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

General Questions
Where did you get that picture for your profile from? Bobalugee1940 12:04, March 3, 2011 (UTC) Thanks its a cool pic Bobalugee1940 12:19, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop
Hey man, I'm looking for somebody who is good at Photoshop or graphic design to help me touch up on a sports logo... while most of the logos I've worked on/altered I've been able to fool around with in MS Paint, I've got one that might need some more heavy duty work. I'm trying to touch this bad boy up so that it looks better (Because I think it looks like crap atm). The logo is for a team called the Tacoma Totems, and its a football team.

Here's the logo, let me know if you can help:



I just think it looks pixelated and discolored. Its a cool design but it would look MUCH better if the red was consistently flush throughout and the white background was consistent too.

Also, I noticed something about Spokane on your talk page. I'm from Washington, and I have a hard time imagining that Spokane would not have been a Soviet target. It's a significant regional population center with plenty of commercial and heavy industry and military installations nearby. While as a Seattleite I have a strong distaste for "Spokompton" and the areas around it (especially Pullman... I would write an article about how Washington State University got nuked on Doomsday if it wouldn't be flagged as a wankjob haha) it IS the biggest city between the Puget Sound metro area and Minneapolis. The Russkies would probably have blasted it to bits, especially if they're launching nukes at industrial plants in rural Alabama.

KingSweden 07:30, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wow yes that looks much, much better. Thank you. Good work!

And that is exactly why I don't contribute to 1983:DD. Too many canon debates :P Though I suppose contributors to Napoleon's World feel the same way when I come running to their talk page to demand an explanation as to why they made the egregious changes they did. Not gonna name names...

KingSweden 18:14, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Recent Stub Edits
Well, let me just tell you that I’m not doing those for points, I’m not, so just believe me. I’ve changed. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 22:57, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I was just worried you might think I was doing those for category pts. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 17:19, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for clarifying. Anyways, it's not that hard! I just open 2 tabs, then click random article for both, and if they're stubs, which they are 60% of the time, then I put it on. I've been doing it so much that I ran into a couple I already put the stub template on, lol. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 18:01, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Spokane area nuke?
Hi, LG, I noticed that recently added a nuclear strike at Fairchild AFB outside of Spokane. I am wondering how this fits in with the established Spokane War (no nukes mentioned in the Spokane War section of the History of Utah article). A small nuke taking out the AFB would definitely add to the probability of the Supremists' rise to power in the area (both in Washington and Idaho/Lincoln). SouthWriter 23:23, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Ok now, Is China taken in the World War III map game?

~Alexander

1983
Finally caved in and contributed again haha. Did you know that I wrote the Pasco Free State stub before NukeVac adopted it and vastly improved upon it? Now its established canon! I feel so accomplished :)

Also, I like the look of the logo. Really well done, thank you again.

KingSweden 19:59, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Also, is there an article on Spokane or the Spokane Wars? All I can find are passing mentions and its hard to contribute to the history of communities in Washington without knowing a lot on those specific events...

KingSweden 20:02, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
Just found a vandal, but in case you guys didn't see/notice it on the TSPTF page, I put it on your talk pages. South Korea (Broken China)Edit Some guy, 72.68.72.32, just deleted the entire thing and replace it with "Lul wut?". PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 23:57, March 6, 2011 (UTC) ===Republic of Watchung (1983: Doomsday)Edit=== Same guy, replaced content with "Victory is Mine!" and {~_~}Can't touch this. PitaKang- (Talk|Contribs) 23:58, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I was just really annoyed because I thought he was the same guy and just wouldn't quit. Anyways, I won't do it again. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 12:40, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Map Game
Hey LG, I was wandering if you would be willing to help with a Map Game. I know this isn't you speciality,but Pita seems busy. It will be based on 1983:Doomsday,but with two changes,which are the US and Great Britain manging to survive with A LOT fewer losses, and stay superpowers.The main thing I would like help with would be for you to check my Grammer,and help which nations to pick.Let me know when you get this,and thank you!!!!!God Bless the United States of America 03:34, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sei-san
Well, here I am? There's really nothing to post, just to prove it.. NaruKeyblade 06:01, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
Okay. I'll do that next time. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:36, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

SayNoToTheism32
I saw what he did to your user page, and I can say that he's really, really dumb. He changes your page to all that Jew racist shit, then blames you, puts that up for deletion as a "Jimmy Wales"? That's really, really stupid. I really hope he doesn't come back. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:57, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

(copied over from the alt history talk page) LG: my apologies for not seeing it, and deleting it sooner. I would have been upset too. You're right, we need to pay more attention...in my defense, I was probably looking at the wiki during the few minutes I had to spare that day. I wish I had noticed what that jerk was doing. BrianD 02:35, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Doomsday Maps
Hi. I was wondering if we were allowed to use maps such as those on this website as article images in 1983: Doomsday. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Such maps are copywrited and would need proper identification in the very least. It is better to use these for research only, transferring the results to free maps that we can produce by other means. SouthWriter 19:39, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Apologies
opps... sorry about that Alexanders 00:17, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

My apologies...I will not do it again. Batmanary 00:35, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I won't do it again excuse my behaviorAlexanders 03:58, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Brass
LG, you are one of the most active admins on this wiki, and while we do not always agree, I can't think of a better person to promote to the Brass. Technically you could not be allowed to take the job until May, but when that time comes, would you be willing to be nominated for the Brass? Mitro 01:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Doomsday Timeline
Sorry about that. I completely understand your point, and I'll try and be more careful in future. Thanks, --Spamalot360 18:04, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Macau
Okay so here's the situation. So far most of the community seems to agree with the map, which says that Macau owns most of the Pearl River Delta, is canon. However, the owner, User:Arstarpool repeatedly insists that Macau has a much smaller territory span. My intention is to create articles on what exactly happened in each of the bombed cities (Gwongjau, Samjaan, Hong Kong) in the area. However, I'm not sure what's canon, what the creator says or what the community says. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 21:37, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not talking about making Gwongjau into a state. I'm doing one of these. What I am asking is whether canonicity is determined by the community or the owner? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 22:52, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

My map includes claimed areas too. Oerwinde basically approved my map. Being a government map, the map reflects areas that are claimed, but not controlled. The destroyed areas are basically devastated places where people go to get scrap metal. What's around that area is what I'm talking about, where people would probably are on the edge of existence, resorting to criminality and family ties to push forward. If you look at my map here, which is based on a logical 500 kt bomb, you will see that the approximate death threshold (second largest ring) would allow for a quantity of survivors that is worth writing about. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:04, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I'll consider that when I write the articles. But Hong Kong is mostly islands, while the mainland is just FILLED with rivers (see my first map), which would probably spare several inhabitants for various reasons which I need not list. In addition, it is just after the rainy season, so the fires wouldn't burn out of control, and the rivers are full but not destructive. But that's besides the point. What I am asking is: Does Macau control what the map says it controls or what Arstarpool says it controls? Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

You bring up a valid point. I did some more research and found a relevant map here. From what I am reading, the radius of fire is roughly equivalent to the lethal zone of 5 psi, or maybe a little more. Using the website I found (which I harmonized with the other "more accurate" one you showed me, and they are basically the same for estimation purposes), I concluded that the 5psi threshold is only about 4.5 mi in diameter, which has about 8 times as large of a burn area as Hiroshima, but is nowhere near to destroying the whole city, although it would definitely destroy the cramped part of it, where fires would spread much more easily. Hiroshima doesn't have as many rivers, either, to halt the fire. There are only a few, most of which are in the city centre. As for climate, Guangzhou is not like India where it is desert for most of the year and then pours with monsoons. Guangzhou rains pretty much year-round, with less from November to January. So the conditions are close perfect. The rivers are high, it's raining steadily but there isn't going to be excessive flooding/erosion.

As for the map. Arstarpool on the subject:
 * "I'm not for drastic size changes so I'd cut it back by 1/3 of how it is on your map."
 * "Sorry Kenny, but I'd appreciate it if you would NOT change the size of Macau and only work on the economics and other asthetic changes."
 * "Kenny, I am going to be stern when I say this but the size of Macau will remain as it was when I created it."

And he is talking about my Macau map, just to clarify, not some other concoction. He clearly wants me to reduce the size somehow but I am not sure what he wants. Also, here's Oerwinde:
 * Well, that makes sense considering how the map is designed.

Thus he approved it. You can ask him if you have any doubts. I appreciate your interest. Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 05:25, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, 25% sounds good.

What I'm trying to say is, I would be delighted to make any necessary changes to the map to go with canon. However, Arstar wants it smaller. You and Oerwinde ultimately want it bigger. Now what? <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 14:26, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that's settled. But if Arstar complains, then it's not my fault. <small style="color:#004400">Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 02:24, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Pita from Experts page
LG, Pita MAY be an expert in religion. Just because he doesn't like Islam doesn't mean he cannot be an expert on it. It's like saying that every expert on WW2 is an anti-Semite and sadistic, it is not true.

Besides, he didn't say in his page he was anti-Islam. He said he was interested in TLs with no Islam. There is a difference. Fed (talk) 22:13, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have read those passages from the Koran. They may be exaggerated and out of context when quoted (because it was in an Islamophobic book) but I have read them and they exist.Fed (talk) 00:03, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the article naming I do it by mistake, I will make sure I name them corectly in the futureAlexanders 03:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Possiblity
Hey LG, what do you think of a micro nation centered around New Bern in North Carolina for my 1983DD article?God Bless the United States of America 22:19, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I found the perfect area in Georgia. In Camden county, there is Submarine base, which is now the base for the US Atlantic Submarine Fleet, but back in 1983 it was a small base with no more than 1 or 2 subs there at a time, and was really unknown. That there by gets me my naval base, and also it is in a good position. The nearest nuke was savannah, which is a good distance away, and no one has claimed this area yet. I believe I might try to start something there, unless you think I shouldnt do it. Sorry for my complete butchery of this paragraph, and thanks for everything LG! God Bless the United States of America 00:39, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I know I am starting to get annoying asking questions, so I will try to keep this short.My current idea is this; edenton,colerain,plymouth, williamston,windsor, and hertdford unite and form the Republic of Inner Banks. Pop would be around 45,000-70,000, peat mining,farming, and maybe some other stuff would be the economy, some national guardmen, and maybe a few PT boats for defense, and maybe later they could find a beached naval vessel.How does it sound?God Bless the United States of America 00:23, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I started the article, and I was hoping if you got the chance you could review it.If I have messed up or caused improbability in any way, dont hesitate to change it and let me know. God Bless the United States of America 01:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey LG,

Sorry to bother you again ( If I were you, I would charge me Message Space ), but I wanted to ask you if you could find me some info. If you get the chance, could you try to find out where the USS Albuquerque (SSN-706) was on doomsday? I couldnt not find this, and I was hoping you could. Thanks! God Bless the United States of America 01:40, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

The America debate
Please check out my new article: Second American Revolution (1983: Doomsday) and some of the new debate on the talk page. It is the start of my proposed world event that will, hopefully, redirect the debate going on the main page to something more creative. I want you to participate in this world event in hopes of restoring some cooperation to the timeline. Mitro 19:27, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Aviva, Florida Espanola
So I'm geussing that there is no practicle way to keep the name Jacksonville? Bobalugee1940 01:21, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind I've changed it to Juárez Bobalugee1940 01:32, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Insulting remarks?
You: "You really don't notice when you insult people on here, do you South? I suggest you re-read everything you've responded to me with. And now, you've started more squabbling here too, good job."

1. "First, LG, with all due respect, your rhetoric is breaking the spirit of a young American who happens to be proud of his nation (OTL)."

This is the first "insult" you called me on. I say "with all due respect" and then defend GB. How is that an insult to you?

I gave you a chance to explain when I apologized saying: "To LG, I did not miss what you said. I do not appreciate being talked down to -- especially in threatening overtones. If you perceive my attitude as being insulting, I certainly did not mean it to be."

Please, where have I insulted you?

2. "I am not sure how to take you, LG. You seem to have an agenda that you want to push on the rest of us. Though I respect your knowledge of history, it does not follow that your logic and reasoning is superior to mine."

Okay, so I question your agenda? I couch it in the language of my perception. I defend my on logic against yours. How is that an insult? --

3. "This time line changed direction months before you joined the team, LG, and the state of the survival of the North American continent has taken a turn toward the optimistic."

This is a statement of my opinion of the direction of the time line (away from the total destruction assumed earlier). There is no insult there.

Verbal gymnastics?

You: "South, what have I told you about being insulting?"

Me: "What place do you have to "tell [me] about" anything? You are not my boss and certainly not my parent. You are not even my elder (either chronologically or on this wiki)."

You: "I did not tell you anything. That's your phrase, and your actions, not mine. "

LG, the word "told" is the past tense of "to tell" my paraphrase replaced the pt with the infinitive and "you" with "me."

You continue to speak as if you have some authority over me, making "statements" which sound all the world like threats. I have not called you names or even questioned your intelligence. All I have done is try to defend myself against your charges concerning MY intelligence.

Once, you seemed to have thrown your hands up and said you were "beating a dead horse." I took it that you were tired of trying to make a point that wasn't being listened to. I hope I am right there. You have, in these two or three strings, attacked my integrity and referred to my ideas as being silly and nonsense. I have answered civilly and been charged with insulting you. You have chosen to make these charges in open forum instead of on the my more "private" talk page. I am on the verge of discussing this with the "brass" as inappropriate, but would rather you sit down, chill out, and reconsider your dogmatism. We can disagree, but we don't have to be disagreeable. SouthWriter 15:38, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Truce?
"South, you are now contradicting yourself with the explorers - none of that discussion, by your admission, is valid, but you brought it up anyways. I'm well aware of your work in the area, and that's not the optimistic part. Not going to explain why you're too optimistic again here. New Bern is not listed as a surviving community on the NC article, which is very explicit about what is there you advocate changing that, which is messing with canon."

The explorers that found Darien and Elizabeth City could not thoroughly explore the coast - nor did the article that mentioned them claim as such. The article, written early on and with not a whole lot of discussion, was meant to be an overview of what was known so far.

I just noticed your remarks about New Bern being close enough to be affected by the nukes down stream, and you made a good point. Unfortunately, I had missed that in reading through your note earlier and contradicted you. I misspoke, as it were, having not checked the known strikes first. However, the article on Blue Ridge's exploration makes no claim to an exhaustive search. It lists two clusters of towns and a few others under the flight path of the search plane(s). New Bern is not mentioned because New Bern was not spotted. It is south of the search pattern. In the end, I concurred with you, recommending that Washington be featured as the "capital" (not in so many words) of the new "state." No list is exhaustive, LG, and an argument from silence is no argument at all. I did not "mess with canon" when I suggested New Bern would work well, and you were wrong to accuse me of such.

If your statement of my "over optimism" is about New Bern, I stand corrected. The town would probably be, as you say, "some sort of survival thing." If however, you are referring to my take on USA expansion (and the movement that Mitro is creating), then my opinion is as valid as yours, and optimists have "ruled" the time line for over a year (as far as North America is concerned anyway). Your insistence that the majority of the states are still in 19th century conditions is too pessimistic given the resources that many of the states had. Many articles list communications being restored shortly after the turn of the century and before the founding of the LoN. Transportation, as well, would be restored to a large extent before the LoN began exploring -- and surely by the present. SouthWriter 20:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

hi
Hello! -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 12:00, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hey why did you delete my sign up page?152.26.20.29 14:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind ..... i understand, thank you! Alexanders 14:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Revisiting the Idea
Hey LG, I just wanted to ask, since you said to revisit this idea in the spring, what are your thoughts now on the Macedonia vs. Serbia war idea? Ownerzmcown 22:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Invitation
LG

I just started my own wiki, and thought I would give you a Invitation to come over. It is called Divergent History Wiki, so come on over when you get the chance. God Bless the United States of America 07:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I am not angry at anyone. Yes, I did base if off DD, but I changed it enough to be considered its own thing. I did not advertise, I wa strying to be nice and give you guys a invitation to see it. I am not trying to cause drama. How is it illegal when the official wiki statement is "Text on Wikia sites is available under a free content license, meaning the information you put on the wiki can be copied and reused by anyone." this is on the term of use, so I don't see how I could get in trouble for it. Also, I don't see how it is fair that you would ban because of recent outburst with another editor, especially considering the offense was on accident and I was trying to be nice. God Bless the United States of America 08:08, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

How about your ideas on my From Dixie to World and War?Alexanders 15:12, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the insight, I will try to imrpove the mechanics of this article, would you be willing to help me with this?Alexanders 15:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well thanks for any help you do give,

Alexanders 15:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

TSPTF
I appreciate your offer and I think I could agree to a Constable position (I'm not old enough IRL for being a Lieutenant) Fed (talk) 15:43, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Random
This is trivial, but congrats, LG, you're the second person on this Wiki to pass the 10k mark for editing! PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Your Attention, Please
So I run around another site, Alternate History.Com and I noticed someone's uchronie up here copied 1983:DD exactly. I always look up the state of Greece in TLs I peruse, and once I noticed that the capital of Greece was "New Athens, Skyros" I dug deeper and every state we have he took. Perhaps you might want to make an account over there and complain? The link is http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/private.php. Oh, and how have you been? Mr.Xeight 02:48, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ach, I just realised, people who aren't members can't see articles in certain categories, and that article was in one of the categories. I'll have to follow up on my own then next weekend (junior-prom is this Saturday, blah!), but I'll definitely tell you the results.

I'll probably be gone forever the day a certain man who shall remain unnamed leaves, but until then... :D

I do need to get back to work, but I can give a yes or no answer and some comments. Mr.Xeight 03:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Adoption
The reason that I asked both of them is that one of them did a lot of editing and the other only made it so I thought that perhaps the first one was his old computer and the second one was his new one. Bobalugee1940 04:30, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for telling me. I'm a little busy right now, so I'll answer them as soon as I can. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 20:41, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Back talking about articles?
If you have a probelm with my work you can tell me about it, you don't have to go snikering to Nuclear Vacum about it, and I have been fixing them anywayAlexanders 16:21, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to admit that your seneky, I already know....Alexanders 00:30, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I went overbored I'm sorry, I overeacted excuse me once againAlexanders 15:18, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Need some help with Russian Rise
Thanks for pinting it out. Sorry. I forget trivial things like that. Thanks for doing it for me.

By the way, could you give me some feedback on Russian Rise. I could really use it. And if its not too much could you ccontribute to it, but please talk to me first.

I noticed that a lot of althists here have a lot of anti-Russian semtiment in it. And some of it aren't exactly plausible, such as 5000 Swedes tearing up 50,000 Russians and many other things. So I just decided it would only be fair to place a plausible and feasible althist which sees the Russian rise to power.

have it ur way. ur canadian. so u would probably want to see a "Canadian Rise" althistory. I'm Russian, and a pretty damn patriotic one at that, so i prefer to see my country become a world power.

As for the battle, i was just adding a little emphasis. LOL.

A quick question
I know I am still working on the Beatles project, but I would like to inquire about a future project. The Doomsday article for Israel says that the city of Tel Aviv was heavily damaged by both the detonation and a tsunami generated by the explosion of a warhead. So should I assume that Simon and Garfunkel who were performing a world wide reunion tour there were killed? I recieved my info about the location of the duo from http://www.paul-simon.info/

Jer1818 02:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Europe Game
Why did you undo my edits?

1983 Dooms Day "edits"
Sorry about that I was surfing the web and I came back to this site and thought "Hey, I might as well get a badge while I'm on here." so I made minor, yet stupid edits to 1983DD. Sorry 'bout that won't happen again. (I've been getting non-responces whenever I try to write on South Writer's wall so could you pass this along to him) Bobalugee1940 15:06, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Central World
Hi, I was wondering if you want to revive along me and other users Central World. VENEZUELA 23:06, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Scramble for Africa
I think I accidently messed up the page. I was editing 1837, and it said there was a edit conflict, I wasnt sure what to do, so I published mine anyway. I checked the page afterwords to see what happen, and now it is all messed up. I am sorry, do you think you could undo my edit because it wont let me. God Bless the United States of America 15:23, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I am talking about SEAC recruting people from the Baltic Russian Territories, as for in game, this is Russian Imperialism. God Bless the United States of America 20:55, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I seriously thought it was government run, but private or not, Russia wants this company to stay out of its zone of Influence, or it will hold the Swedish Government for it. As for the issue you brought up, wars have been fought for less. We just want our lands free of foreign actions :) God Bless the United States of America 21:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

LG, I respect you, but I think you are abusing your powers on this. I could understand it if violated site/ wiki rules, or was completely impossible, but its not. I only said that Russia will hold Swedon accountable over this if it didnt get the SEAC in line and out of Russian Land. For you to change the post for no good reason is absurd. Like I said, many wars have been fought between nations over the use of companies. No reason why it cant happen in the 1800s when many of these conflicts occured. Just because you dont think its right doesnt give you the right to remove it. Like I said, I respect you, but this isnt right.God Bless the United States of America 21:45, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

What in the World are you talking about?

You listed no truth or reasons, you just said Russia shouldnt blame swedon. As soon as I confronted you over this you said end of discussion, obviously you are abusing your powers now. This is not fair in the slightestGod Bless the United States of America 21:58, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I Need Help
Hi Lordganon, first of all why are you afraid of uniting to Central World, and second, I'm writing a novel than maybe I will publish and is an alternate history in 1937 with a more technological world with different nations, and some point of the story Germany tries to do a terrorist attack at the Paris expo, with a new type of Japanese missile, so the Americans and French manage to stop it, and the Americans use one of the missiles against a base with that missiles in Germany, so the Germans believe that the Japanese also sold the missiles to the Americans, so they broke relations, after the end of the book I want to explain what happen after in 1938, what I have plan is the following, In Europe: Nazi Germany invades France after many tensions, and after a group of war declarations make's Germany and Allies conquer ALL Europe except Spain, Portugal, and Scotland and England, so the French retreat to the French zone of UK and to Scotland while the British stay at the motherland, so now's the thing USA most enter the war some way (possibly Pearl Harbor) and after a D-day in Denmark and the Baltic and a French one to Normandy, and the manage to liberate Europe, and because this technology Operation Barbarossa continue, so the Americans enter to Leningrad, but Stalin's paranoia believing that capitalism will conquer the Red Land attack the Americans and after Germany is defeated the Allies enter USSR and with a normal and a social war manage to end the red giant, making them to retreat to Siberia and create some kind of small Soviet Union, so now What do you think could have happen in Asia, would the Japanese do the attack at Pearl Harbor or what? also China is a communist state, and all the British colonies in Asia are French except Malaysia and Singapore, Regards VENEZUELA 21:15, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

User Rights
Re Owner: Done. I should probably go through the process of upping you to Brass too, I know Mitro said May, but I've been really distracted lately with my family getting a bad case of the flu and work getting busier. Me being the only Brass doesn't really make much sense.Oerwinde 10:48, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Courland & potential Lithuanian Surivor State
Thank you for your contributions to Courland so far. They've been a great help to me.

I've got an idea for the Lithuanian survivor state. I plotted the targets you gave me on a map of Lithuania and found that the region of Samogita was (relatively) free of targets, so I decided to make the (yet-to-be-created) article a sucessor to the orginal Duchy of Samogita. I have some questions for you: Yank 17:13, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Can I get away with giving Samogita a portion of the Lithuania Minor region (namely the former Kaliningrad Obast) If so how big can that portion be?
 * 2) Will you asist me with article as well?

I'll drop the Kaliningrad issue. It was just an idea. Anyway, the reason why I chose Samogita is because it had a flag on Wikipedia. Anyway, can you help me and give me some names of people who could be chosen as the new Dukes of Courland and Samogita.

Yank 17:46, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

What if Courland and Samogita used the Bermudan method of selecting a monarch? In Bermuda (a nation with no local monarchs in its history) the people made a popular leader King after he left office. This method would probably be more plausible that searching for an heir to royal lines that haven't existed for centuries. And could you help me by providing population estimates and a solid area for the nation?

Yank 23:22, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

The problem with an imported monarch for either nation is distance. Is it even plausible for any of these royals to even get to Courland/Samogita? ANd if so, then who stands the better chance?

Yank 15:56, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Quick Q and An Apology
I have a question about template Infoboxes... Is there a good one for Sports franchises/clubs? I tried copy/pasting one from Wikipedia (as is apparently doable with some templates, i.e. election Infoboxes) but this wiki rejected the one I lifted from Wikipedia. You seem like a template-capable guy, so I figured I'd come to you first. I was also wondering how to make TL-specific templates for Napoleon's World, i.e. a proposal template so that more users can add stuff to the TL or one of those boxes they have at hte bottom of all the Great White South pages.

Also, I want to apologize for not being more productive on the TSPTF. I know you nominated me and I haven't really lived up to my responsibilities lately, I've been swamped with schoolwork and my main focus is, as always, Napoleon's World. I've done a few things here and there but not nearly as much as I should.

KingSweden 19:57, April 15, 2011 (UTC)