Principia Moderni (Map Game)

Principia Moderni, or "The Beginning of the Modern" in Late Latin, is a map game beginning in the final days of the Middle Ages in Europe, and the early days of the Ming dynasty in China--1420 C. E...The House of Hohenzollern have become the Electorates of Brandenburg--though most of the power in the Holy Roman Empire still lies with the Habsburgs, Joan of Arc has defeated the English at Orleans, the city of Tenochtitlan is founded by the Aztecs, the Timurid Empire has united Central and West Asia, and the Yongle Emperor sends out Zheng He to voyage westwards. It is a turbulent era, in other words, an era of change, and an era in which power is cemented.

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 * Detectivekenny (moderator-in-chief, mapmaker)
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 * CrimsonAssassin (moderator)
 * Yankovic270 (moderator)
 * Collie Kaltenbrunner (moderator, mapmaker)
 * Zagoria (moderator)

Europe

 * Scotland --SliceB00m 19:35, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * France-- Galaguerra
 * Burgundy-- JCC
 * Swiss Confederacy--
 * Portugal-- Sevestron
 * Naples--LurkerLordB
 * Venice -- Kunarian
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 * China-- CrimsonAssassin
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 * Joseon-- PitaKang
 * Vietnam-- Yank
 * Hanthawaddy-- Detectivekenny
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Americas

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 * Maya-- Fedelede
 * Inca-- DeanSims 17:47, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Itsaygahi (formerly Tsalagi) - Mumby
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1400s

 * Archives: 1420-1449
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1500s

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1600s

 * Archives: 1600-1629
 * Archives: 1630-1659

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1660

 * The Vietnamese expand their Guiana colony by 28*50 sq km. Vietnamese soldiers launch an offensive from the strip of Chinese-occupied Aztec territory. They go southwards, as they intend to link up the strip of Chinese Aztec territory to the Chinese enclave in the Yucatan. Nipponese soldiers launch an offensive aiming at pacifing the areas of Japan north of the Edo line. They plan to work with Joseon's forces every step of the way, and promise to withdraw to positions south of the Edo line once the rival Daimyos are conquered. The Vietnamese make another offer to purchase Joseon's Phillipine territory on the behalf of the New Lithuanians, as they say that Joseon is set to gain more territory in Japan than what they would lose if they sell the Phillipine territory.
 * The Russians Finlay Conquer the Kamchatka Peninsula Coastline(other than Joeson Colonies...and Russia officially claims the rest of the peninsula). The Russian Tsar is bouncing with joy when he recieves news of it and officialy sends invitations to the Leaders of China, Venice, Naples, Anglo-Germany, Sweeden, Poland, Hungary, Joeson, Vietnam, Itsahagi/Orthagi, Changiti- and Kazakhstan, New Lithuania, and the Mons(all transportation and necesarry accomodations will be provided if they agree) to the next Pacific-Siberia day celebrations in Moscow(next year) and to a great feast and to see the new, Romanov Russia. The Tsar believes that if all invited World Leaders will attend it will give them the chance of seeing the wonders of Russia and discuss important issues between them. and tells his emmisaries to say the same. Russians have just discovered that the island of Sahalin belongs to a Japanese warlord after the colapse of the empire, but is deemed unimportant. More Anti-russian sentiment grows in West Changitistan as more people associated from the old governement move there. More ressettlement is happening in SIberia and Russia's Colonies as land is promised to newly freed farmers, although many are encouraged to stayin Russia, as such Novorossiya, Novaya Scandinavia, Canada, and Africanskaya Zemlya expand 750 km sq each.
 *  Way too early to conquer Kamchatka. There is a huge steppe in the way, and the Peninsula would be extremely hard to navigate. While conquering doesn't mean much given the nomadic nature of the inhabitants, you still don't have the transportation necessary. Also, your expansion exceeds limits insanely. I expect better of you if you're going to be carrying out the Industrian Revolution.
 * What are the limits to expanding through undeveloped territory adjacent to one's nation?
 * Considering that I have been expanding since 1540 or so and the first set date was 1600 for siberia I dont think it is that is too implausible, and remember all the expiditions I was sending to the area? so dont say its hard to navigate because better navigation was the purpose of the expiditions. Ok you got me on the fact that I forgot that I was on break untill 1652 so I fixed it to say Kamchatka coastlines. the Russians had koches to successfully navigate siberian waters and frozen waters of tthe okhotsk sea.
 * Naples' Economy has finally improved back to pre-crash conditions. They have lost much time they could have used colonizing when they attempted to save the economy, and Benvolio orders Ricasolia expanded by another 800 square miles. The King of Naples is too old to travel to Russia, and Angelo his son does not wish to go either due to a need to care for his father. He sends his brother-in-law Duke Mario di Sicilia to go the meeting in Russia instead.
 * The Chinese offensive in the Yucatan pushes southwards, towards OTL Panama. A final choke on the Mayan lands pushes into the city of Tayasal in April. The First Battle of Tayasal results in a Chinese retreat, though the Chinese are able to capture a vast majority of the surrounding area around Tayasal. The Second Battle of Tayasal results in a brutal slaughter of the Mayans. The military, which had holed up for a final fight, was showing incredible resistance. However, the Chinese were able to break through the defenses. With the Mayan leadership crushed, China is able to expand into most of OTL Honduras by December. Vietnam is thanked for helping China against the Aztecs, offering them gold as a gift. Meanwhile, in Asia, China accepts the offer to Pacific-Sibera Day Celebration.
 * In January, András is crowned as Andrew IV.After receiving the invitation, he sends his brother Géza, since he is occupied with reconstructing the country and its economy.Meanwhile, one small expedition is sent to found a settlement in Africa, and lands in OTL southeastern South Africa.other is sent to Canariae Insulae, with orders to conquer the great eastern island which still has not been conquered. Erbania (OTL Fuerteventura).However, the invasion is delayed to the next year.expansion in Öböl resumes, with the colony expanding 600 sqkm south inland.Uruguay expands 800 sq km.
 * France expands its colony in North America 20*50 square km, this colony is named as Nouvelle-France (New France), and the unnamed colony in Africa is named Guinée. The french government send a ambassador to Hanthawaddy for talk about a possible alliance between the two countries. The new king, Robert III, took up the throne at the beginning of this year, designated for a rovlution against the old system of government, he strives to destroy the feudal system and create a more democratic kingdom (but with he as Head of Government). The main impulse of the revolution was the few colonial expansion and the submission of the country in the last years.
 * An invitation to the Siberia-Pacific day celebrations are also sent to france(as it is now active).See the Russia post for more details.
 * The king Robert accept the invitation and travels to Russia the day of Siberia-Pacific. He's exciting for meet the Tsar.
 * Itsaygahi consolidate the Yucatan into the kingdom, and builds roads across the country. Benvoligahu grows, expanding south into Cuba. The collapse and lack of interest in the Floridian colonies my the Mamluks and the Ottomans leads to King Chanrak claiming the peninsula and a process of expansion into Florida begins.
 * The Venetian Doge accepts the Russian invitation and says he will attend in person along with a few personal guards. He leaves his trusted brother in command of Venice and orders him to keep a standard military and colonial policy and to relay messages to and from him in the case of emergency. The brother, keen to make a name for himself decides to set up the Nuovo Venetia colony just south of the Russian colony, and it quickly expands to an area of 100 sq km, this work grants him heavy public support after the success of the expidition.
 * If you just formed this settlement, wait till next turn to expand it.according to the rules, a initial settlement only can have up to 100 sq km.
 * Modified.
 * Russian colony where? I have 2 in America-Canada and Novorossiya, and one on New Zealand, Africa, and Sri Lanka/South India, so that makes 5 colonies.
 * I know it exactly.i'm talking about your colonies in North America, and he didn't specified which his is below.
 * Sweden continues developing its military. A colonisation convoy sets off for unknown waters...

1661

 * Naples improves the Ricasolian infrastructure and sends more colonists, although its size remains the same. More and more of Cuba is coming under Neapolitan control (with even more if the Charter Port Princes are counted); however, they do not tolerate the large Mumlak colony that is on the island. Benvolio II sends a message to the Mumlaks, demanding that they cede over their Cuba colony to Naples, or else he will wage a Holy War, or Crusade, upon the Arab colony. His son Angelo begins to build up a military presence in Ricasolia, to prepare for the Crusade should the ungodly Mamluks refuse to hand over their colony.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony southward by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese Emperor apologizes to the Russian Czar, as he had been unable to make it to the big Siberia-Pacific Day celebration. He instead sends a messenger to Russia bringing his heartfelt congratulations. The Nipponese expand their territory to the new Sendai line, as their Vietnamese masters have renegotiated the deal with Joseon. The New Lithuanians expand into Borneo, marking the first time that they have officially expanded their in years. Increasing amounts of the New Lithuanian natives are converting to Christianity, and are intermarrying with the European New Lithuanians. This gives rise to a new mixed of New Lithuanians, and is helping decrease tensions between the two groups tremendously.
 * The increasing number of artists and writers in Viharapura is coupled with a similar growth on the other side of the world. An increasing number of slaves are imported from Biokomon in Africa to Hanthawaddy, Bi Hloa, and New Hanthawaddy. They are prized due to their being accustomed to the tropical climate of these areas, and their resistance to diseases such as malaria, sleeping sickness, and smallpox. The trade of Saami slaves also grows, although it is scorned by European powers as barbaric, leading to its being less profitable than other slave trades. The benefits of free labor are numerous. In New Hanthawaddy, Mons discover that Europeans and many Ramanians have a taste for tobacco, and the first cash crop fields are established near OTL Caracas. Dunquk Dung expands east 600 sq km, meeting with OTL Araya. Guajira expands west along the coast 600 sq km. The new Seng Humit (Mosquito Coast) settlement expands south 400 sq km. Bi Hloa expands 400 sq km south along the west coast in Bi Hloa.
 * Other expedition is sent to the African colony, which expands 50 sq km.the invasion of Erbania is carried out, with the Hungarian forces conquering 1150 sq km until the end of the year.Öböl expands 850 sq km inland, in the south.Uruguay expands 700 sq km.the Hungarian economy starts to recover, along with the cities.Poland's economy also starts to grow.Meanwhile, Protestantism gains more adepts in the nobility, while Andrew IV abandons its claims to Jégföld, and tries to sell the colony.
 * Russia sends speialy made royal transportation ships or carriages(depending on distance) to all countries that agreed to attend the celebrations. The Celebrations will include Having a large feast in Moscow and remembering the dead for the Russian motherland in all wars(it was the first time that the words "mother Russia" or the derivatives will be used in a speach). The Foreign leaders will be invited to see a service of the Russian Orothodox church as it is a part of Russia's culture and is one of the reasons that they were invited(experience culture), but will not be forced to participate. Fireworks will be lit up in the moscow sky for the first time and the city of Novgorod will also be visited as a last stop before the world leaders part their separate ways. The Tsar Thanks all that participated and is anxious to see what the 15 of June may bring. Due to an influx of settlers, Canada expands 2000km.
 * China links its captures in the Panama region with its captures in Honduras and Guatemala. A huge celebration at the former Mayan capital occurs at July. Hanthawaddy and Vietnam troops are invited to the party. By December, Chinese troops capture more of the Yucatan.
 * Robert III of France thanks the Tsar for his hospitality and congratulates him for the splendour and glory of the Tsardom. Robert look for alliances with Russia during the celebrations, and be kind with the nobility and the people (he wants to be popular between the Russians). Robert also sends ambassadors to Naples for negotiate an alliance in defense of the Christianity, against the Mamluks and the pagans in their colonies. Haiti increase its territory 1700 sq km to west.
 * Naples accepts the alliance with their fellow Christian nation.
 * The Kingdom of Burgundy passed to the reign of Charles I as the new king of the Burgundian people. Diplomats has been sent France and the Anglo-German Commonwealth to establish economic ties and recognition of the New Kingdom. Charles I promises to recover the lands that belong to the Burgundian people, also claims the throne of Castile. Many entrepreneurs begin to try to revive the Burgundy economy.
 * A rebel general rises in the south of Japan to start unifying Japan.
 * A Nipponese crackdown on dissent kills the rebel General, who had been in the processes of fomenting a group of terrorists under the guise of being "revolutionaries". Fortunately he had only recruited a small number of the more radical minor daimyo to his cause. His daimyo supporters are executed, and replaced with loyal daimyo.
 * There are enough nations to choose that you don't need to steal another person's vassal state. The southern half of Japan is the Vietnamese vassal of Nippon, and the northern half is to be annexed by Joseon. In other words, Japan is off-limits as a playable nation for the foreseeable future.
 * Joseon continues to expand into Japan, taking the rest of Hokkiado, as well as several smaller islands off of Hokkiado. Meanwhile, their Oregon colony is expanded by 1500 sq km, and hundreds more colonists are sent to Oregon. Also, due to the rebel general in Japan, crackdowns begin on all suspected rebel groups, and although no evidence is found, over 50 people are hanged.
 * The brother of the doge of Venice sends another few ships to Nuovo Venetia expanding it by 1250 sq km. Construction also continues on the Genoan armoury at an unrivaled rate and more ships pass through Genoa's ports in one year than in the past 50 years alone. He is hailed again for his administrative expertise in organizing the expeditions.
 * Which one are you expanding?with two colonies, 1250 sq km is the maximum number of all colonial expansion in one turn, not just of one colony.
 * modified, sorry these rules are a little hard to understand at times.
 * Sweden lands a colony on the southernmost point of Baffin Island. sweden continues upgrading their military.

1662

 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese reluctantly recognize the new regimes in France and Burgundy. The Nipponese officially end territorial expansion at the Sendai line. The Vietnamese send more troops to the Aztec Empire, as their commitment in Nippon ended when they had reached the Sendai line. A small portion of the Vietnamese force remains in Nippon to help train the new Nipponese Army. The Vietnamese build shipyards to allow the Nipponese to rebuild their depleted merchant marine.
 * The rest of Erbania (1150 sq km) is captured.Öböl expands 1050 sq km inland south.Afrika expands 100 sq km.Meanwhile, Hungary's economy continues to recover, while, the offer of selling Jégföld to other country still has no replies.Poland also rebuilds its military. and offers to buy a strip of land of former Doitsochihou from Sweden.
 * China expands more into the Aztec/Mayan Territory, pushing westwards towards the Pacific Ocean. Meanwhile, in the Yucatan Peninsula, the conquest is complete. Rebuilding of the infrastructure from the old Mayan Capital begins. By December, an assault on Tenochtitlan is mounting.
 * France try to remake its foreign relations (principally with Vietnam). Robert III offers to Charles I of Burgundy make a mutual defence alliance and invites him to Paris to the second aniversary of his coronation, the Tsar Alexi I and Benovolio II of Naples are also invated (even the Doge of Venice and Thai Phương of Vietnam are invited). New France expands 1700 sq km to the North.
 * With Philip the IV now with full control of Spain, he starts to fix any building destoryed by the rebals. He also starts to build new builds to make jobs for his people. A new national Spain army is starting to be formed.
 * Charles I accepted the invitation and go to France. Charles I applaud the revolutionary monarchy which in the Kingdom of Burgundy is also its form of government. The King of the Burgundians asks to King of France military access for that Burgundian troops can go to Flanders. In Burgundy is starting to form an army for war against Flanders. Burgundian merchants go to France, making a slight growth of the economy.
 * France concedes to Burgundy the pace-permission.
 * The Doge of Venice unfortunately declines the French invitation as he has taken to a voyage around the eastern nations of the continent for the last years of his life. Seeing the support of his brother even travelling to him in free Japan, he sets him as successor at the mild age of 31. The new doge declines the French too saying that there are currently more pressing matters than the crowning of the French king to Venice. He organises the second expedition to establish the third planned colony Cinque Isole, placed in the Caribbean islands east of the Vietnamese colony. The success of every expedition furthers Italian support for Venice making other northern Italian city states consider joining the North Italian Union. Meanwhile a bill is passed by the Doge, that makes several new citizenship classes, the first being Venetian, the second being Italian, the third being Citizen and the fourth being Resident. The requirements for citizen allow all of the natives of the Venetian colonies to immediately become Citizens. This new bill called the "Bill of Citizenship (Disegno di legge di Cittadinanza)" is put through on the Doges popularity although there is still general discontent about it.
 * Wait. you estabilished your first colony in 1651. by the rules, you must wait until 1701 (50 years after the founding of your first colony) to make a new colony.
 * I have established TWO colonies and have one by conquest, that isn't establishment. I put the date I conquered it. I will have to wait 1710 to establish another colony, due to Nuovo Venetia being the first one I made.
 * Don't you mean the islands west of the Vietnamese colony? The Bahamas are still untouched (as far as I know), and the Vietnamese are well on their way to annexing the entire Lesser Antilles island chain.
 * Joseon continues to expand into Japan, slowly advancing down to the new Sendai line. Meanwhile, their Oregon colony is expanded by 750 sq km, and more colonists are sent to the 신대륙 (New World), in search of glory and wealth. A head right system is made, where 30 acres of land will be given for every passenger to the New World. This incites a huge wave of new colonists, eager to claim land in the New World. Their Columbian colony is also expanded by 300 sq km, while their Kamchatkan colony, long neglected, is “resurrected’ and is expanded by 450 sq km.
 * Russia...(east) Kamchatka Coastlines... What do you not understand about me saying its mine and eventualy asking you to sell the colony to me... You will be expanding into Russia soon so... ya your choice.
 * What YOU don't understand is that Russia's rate of expansion is getting pretty absurd. So please dial it back a bit.
 * Hanthawaddy expands its military significantly during the year. Modern artillery is borrowed from Europe and refined slightly. King Jayadeva claims a large amount of territory in Central America for the Crown, as part of an agreement with China. Control is created over all of Seng Humit, and Hanthawaddy begins consolidating its claims in OTL Panama. OTL Guajira expands west 1500 sq km along the coast, and Bi Hloa expands directly south along the coast by 500 sq km.
 * The Russian Tsar, Upon recieving the Invitation to go see the coronation, and wanting to repay the time that the French have put into going to Siberia-Pacific, decides to travel to France for the Coronation Aniversary. He leaves his wife in charge while he is gone and puts an order for the army to capture the inland parts of Kamchatka. The Tsar is eager to disscuss the posibility of a militaristic alliance with the French. The Russians publish their first book about the native americans and their beliefs and customs. They actively compare them to the Mongols that invaded them in the 1200s and are much less negative than other European books(Remember, Russia was already a multiethnical empire(unlike most of europe), and a Russian talking bad about a non-russian would be not very much liked in kazakhstan, Changitisan and the Siberian lands, where the majority are non-russian). It is labeled "New World of the Indians". The Russians expand Novaya Skandinavia by 2000 km and Canada by 500km. The Russians find and interesting social structure in the Iroquois and find it somewhat comparable to Russia during the Tatar yoke(Confedetation-Type states). A version of the Book is translated into and printed in French and is given to Robert III amongst other gifts including a statue of a Russian bear (easyer to sculpt than an eagle) and a Rooster on the sides and facing a dove with an olive branch. Ressetling continues all over the empire and nikolaevsk grows and the city of okhotsk is founded by decree from the Tsrina.
 * Naples declares that all Mamluk territories on the island of Cuba are now part of Ricasolia. They announce that the Mamluks should not be permitted to preach their false faith to the pagan Cubans, corrupting potential Christain converts. They also state that the safety of Neapolitan Ricasolia is in danger with a rival power having a colony on the same island. The fleet of Naples arrives off the coast of the Mamluk colony, and then the soldiers launch an attack upon the cities of the Mamluks. Meanwhile, a force from Ricasolia is moving through the jungles of Cuba to attack the Mamluk colony from the inland direction. The Ricasolians treat Christian natives very well, and many native tribes who dislike the Mamluks join the force of Ricasolia (with some bribery of course). The Cuban Crusade has begun.
 * Sweden sends off another colonising fleet. Sweden's military is upgraded and the new OTL Baffin Island colony is named Hodlaand. It expands by 1250 sqkm.

1663

 * Not a drop of rain falls in India. Oldenburg, Western Doitsuchihou, Swedish Frisia and Flanders are hit by a major plague. Expansion in these countries will merit special bonuses in war, as well as double expansion in general (after halved expansion is taken into account for gray areas. However, expansion in the Netherlands will lead to a 50% chance of your own country contracting the plague, so be careful.
 * Joseon continues to expand into Japan, continuing to advance ever so slowly to the Sendai line. Meanwhile, their Oregon colony is expanded by 750 sq km, their Colombian colony by 400, and their Philippines colony by 350. Meanwhile, military presence on Japan increases, due to recent resistance against Korean rule. A free trade deal is sent to Venice, while they offer to sell their Kamchatka colony to Russia for a pittance, as well as a since they see that the Russians will reach it sooner or later, and by then, it will be of no use, surrounded by Russian territory. It has also been seen in the Korean court as a waste of time, as that it is seen to be a “deserted, barren wasteland”.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese accept the French invitation. The Vietnamese offer up Vietnamese India for sale to the highest bidder. The Vietnamese start expanding the military to prepare for a potential war with the xenophobic Irish government. However, the Vietnamese are unable to begin a war now with their commitments in the Aztec and Mayan Empires.
 * The Venetian Doge warns that aggression against Ireland will bring Venice into the war against Vietnam.
 * The Vietnamese issue a statement of shock and disgust at the Doge's comments. They remind the Venetians that the "profitable trade" with Ireland had slowed down to a trickle, and that the Irish hadn't shown any special mercy to any Venetians shipwrecked on Irish territory. The word "Venetian" becomes a popular synonym to "money-grubbing".
 * The Doge denies the claims of Vietnam, noting that Venice knows more about its own nation than Vietnam, and has seen an increase in trade with Ireland contrary to the beliefs of Vietnams officials.
 * Robert III, King of France, declares Russia and Naples as "friends of the Kingdom" and happy he reads the new Russian book. Robert contemplate the possibility of form an alliance with the Tsar. He also remark the french position as "tolerant people". In Haiti, many slaves are liberated and the state allow them to serve with basic rights to the proprietary classes. The new Haitian freemen help France to create new militias and iniciate the exportation of sugar. Robert III reorganizates the Royal Christian Army and offers aid to the Vietnamese in their war against the Mayans and Aztecs.
 * Naples is happy to be considered such a good ally of France.
 * The Vietnames-Irish war has been postponed until about 1686 so that I can better prepare for it.
 * Repaired.
 * Sweden lands the colony ship on the southernmost shore of Hudson Bay. Sweden quarantines its Dutch province but the plague spreads to Southern Scandinavia. Swedish authorities manage to keep the death toll to less than 200 with harsh measures. Sweden continues military expansion and Hodlaand expands by 1250 sqkm.
 * Also I have occupied and annexed all of Western and Eastern Doitsuchou.
 * Öböl expands 1050 sq km inland, south.Afrika expands 300 sq km, while other expedition with settlers and soldiers is sent to Erbania, with orders to expand the Canariae Insulae colony.Meanwhile, a settlement as part of Canariae Insulae is founded in OTL Western Sahara, in the nearest point to Erbania.Újfundlandi expands 850 sq km inland on its main island.
 * The Burgundy Army across France and attacks Flanders. With a major breakthrough in the entire south. However, a part of the army has fallen ill and stopped his breakthrough in the south of Flanders until the arrival of Burgundians apothecaries. Charles I comes back from France to Burgundy at the news of his great victory and the plague in the north. To the ears of the Burgundian people has been heard Vietnamese recognition of the new government of the country. So the king tried sent messengers but without a port, the situation is very difficult. Therefore it is expected to conquer Flanders in order to have a port. The king sent messengers to Sweden for affront to the difficult situation in northern Europe. Charles I accept of new the invitation and go to France.
 * Naples sends a message to Burgundy, asking what their dominant/official religion is.
 * Spain starts to build up a navy. Then they send messengers to all other nation asking them to come by so that they could talk about forming a partnership. As of now all rebels in Spain have been killed.
 * Venice answers the call and officially re opens trading with Spain, allowing a secure flow of resources to the now secure nation. The Doge sends a negotiator to Spain asking what partnerships Spain would be interested in?
 * The King of Naples sends a royal message to the king of Spain stating that he is proud to be an ally of a fellow Catholic nation. Neapolitan merchants begin to trade with Spain.
 * Venice Starts building up its military again by order of the Doge, the Military specifically manages to hire several Irish mercenary Battaglione's and many Irish citizens of Venice sign up to fight in a specially formed Irish Battaglione of Venice.
 * The Mayan Civilization is destroyed at the Battles of Chichen Itza. The First Battle, which had happened two years ago, saw China take over the city, though the Mayans retook it due to the Chinese not guarding it well. In the Second Battle of Chichen Itza, which happened this year, was when Chinese forces bombarded Chichen Itza, killing militants and civilians alike. The temple remained mostly intact, though a few catapult impacts damaged the stairs. In the Third Battle of Chichen Itza, Chinese troops went inside the ravaged city and captured it. The Mayan civilization surrendered. However, Aztec fighting was mistaken for Mayan fighting after the Mayans capitulated. This is the first time that the Asians discovered a distinction between the two civilizations. Efforts now go to destroying what is left of the Aztecs.
 * Hanthawaddy continues upgrading its military. Hanthawaddy sends settlers to Seng Humit, from Camaikamon. After a few forts are created, Mons begin contact with the natives. They offer some natives firearms in order to gain a trusting relationship with them. Meanwhile, in Katimon, increasing hostilities take place with the Kulin natives. The Mon settlers become embroiled in trade disputes. According to author, Smim Ram the natives are "untrustworthy and lacking any form of conscience or reasoning ability." The Mons use this as an excuse to occupy OTL French Island at 200 sq km. Katimon's northern and southern settlements expand north 700 sq km each in a thin band along the coast. OTL Guajira expands west along the coast by 300 sq km.
 * The Russians put more effort into capturing the mountainous terrain that is kamchatka and chukotka. The Russians see future in the mountains as many gems are found in the Urals and hoped to be found in the far eastern mountains. Russia offers an alliance to France as to bring the european nations closer and to sign the Baltic Alliance with AGC and Sweeden for a mutual alliance(one again). Russia continues to settle the colonies and far east. The Russians expand their colonial holdings in Africa by 2000 km and in Novaya Skandinavia by 1000 km.
 * The fleet of Naples bombards the small port cities of the Mamluk Cuban colony, and quickly defeats the few ships stationed there. The Neapolitan forces are able to force a landing, and crush the colonists resistance. Meanwhile, the army of natives and Ricasolians attacks from the inland route, preventing the Mamluks and their allied natives from being capable of retreating. The Mamluk colony is easily occupied, with rebels standing no chance against Naples' military. However, should the Mamluk empire get organized and aid their colony, Naples could still be defeated.

1664

 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese accelerate their program of military expansion in light of Venetian hostility. The Vietnamese go to their allies in Anglo-Germany and Hanthawaddy in an effort to gain support in a potential war against Ireland and Venice. They also go to the Holy Romans and the Neapolitans in an effort to gain their support in a fight against their expansionalistic northern neighbor. As Holy Roman and Neapolitan involvement would go a long way towards neutralizing potential Venetian involvement, the Vietnamese give the two Italian nations aid deals aimed at improving their armed forces. They also approach the Hungarians with the prospect of regaining the territory the Venitians had taken from them in the last war.
 * Naples' King Benvolio states that he will support his fellow Catholic nations of Ireland and Venice in any wars against Vietnam. However, due to his old age it is unlikely that he will be the monarch during such a war, and his son has no care what happens in Ireland. Prince Angelo privately sends a message to Naples' allies stating that he will not fight against any Christian nation in Ireland, and will only fight Vietnam if they attempt to attack Venice proper. Meanwhile, many Neapolitan naval vessels have blockaded the straights of Gibraltar. They let any nation except the Mamluks send boats through, the reason for stopping the Mamluks is to prevent them from trying to liberate their colony. Meanwhile the forces on Cuba work to subjugate the Mamluk colonists.
 * France sends ambassadors to Naples with two messages: 1. Frances ask for permission to "invade" Ricasolia for help in the war against the Mamluks. 2. The french king will support the peace between the European catholic nations, ergo, they will help the Irish and Venice (and obviously Naples) in case of war against Vietnam. Because of this, the french army is reinforced with new and fresh troops and militias. France is agree with the Russian proposition of form an alliance. New ambassador are send to Spain and Hungary to create new diplomatic agreements. Now is clear that the french highest ambition is the union of the European Christianity, and give back to it its former importance . Even so, King Robert is well-disposed to form an alliance with China, if it's necessary.
 * Naples' Crown Prince states that they can control Ricasolia easily on their own. However, if the French can help them isolate the Mamluks so they cannot retake their colony, the Neapolitans would be very happy with their ally. He secretly sends a message to France that the people of Naples are still very pleased with Vietnam for aiding them with the recession, so it is highly unlikely that they will go to war with their ally.
 * The Venetian Doge is happy to have support from France and gladly accepts it along with increasing the amount of resource flow to France they offer an official alliance to France along with free movement of troops throughout the lands to allow greater action against the enemies of each nation.
 * Vietnamese relations with France, though not completely severed, are severely strained. The Vietnamese revoke every generous trade agreement and privalege they had ever given the French. Vietnamese trade with France is also severely affected, as most Vietnamese merchants are encouraged to avoid trading with the French as much as possible. Furansuchou is heavily fortified and garrisoned to guard against French attack. The Vietnamese Emperor declares that "if the spineless French wish to turn their backs on a centuries old alliance, we have no choice but to do the same".
 * I liked JonMichaelAllen better. At least he had the common sense to not stab his allies in the back. Vietnam was France's ally long before Kunarian joined the game.
 * Even so, it is not implausible. The changes in the policies of a country happen. I have no problems with you, I only have specific objectives. You were who didn't recognise France two or three turns before, and you refused some offers which i did to you. Appropiate, I'm Galaguerra, no Kunarian.
 * I did not think I needed to recognize the new government of a country I had dealings with for centuries. The fact I continued to work with you should have been recognition enough. I only did what I thought Vietnam would do in face of the French dealing with a potential enemy. Tell me it isn't plausible for the Vietnamese to be outraged at what they see as French duplicity. They are human beings, and can allow emotion to cloud their judgement.
 * You have reason, It is plausible. I sorry if i bothered you, I really didn't want to. I only did the most plausible action that the new french government would do.
 * Sweden strongly urges their allies, the Vietnamese and the Venetians to back down. However if it comes to war, Sweden however will be forced to help the Venetians if their Italian homeland is attacked. Sweden continues military expansion and the new colony of New Scandinavia is expanded by 1250 sqkm. Despite the best efforts of Swedish authorities the plague spreads into Anglo-german areas of Scandinavia where lack of intervention kills many including the governor and his top officals. Sweden is forced to occupy the area and restore order to prevent the plague from reentering Sweden proper as the death toll drops to 50 this year. If Anglo-Germany does not respond within two years then Sweden will annex their portion of Scandinavia.
 * The Vietnamese promise the Swedes that they have no intention of invading Venetian territory. They insist that they would have their hands full dealing with Ireland, let alone their Italian allies. The whole purpose of their diplomatic wrangling is to make sure a direct invasion of Venice by Vietnamese forces is unecessary.
 * If that is the case Sweden will stay neutral unless Venice doesn't support Ireland; in which case Sweden will help the Vietmanese.
 * Robert III says to Sweaden that a pleague is not excuse for invade another country's territory. Also guarantees that, in case of war, the war actions will unroll in the irish territory, until the vietnamese are agree.
 * That territory is rightfully part of Sweden and I have been trying to obtain it for 50+ years. The plague was at trisk of rearriving into Sweden so the King ordered the officals to help stop the plague. Plus I have offered to return it if Zagoria returns by 1666 as he has been away since 1659.
 * New Scandinavia is Hodlaand or other colony?
 * Hodlaand is on the southernmost tip of Baffin Island, New Scandinavia is on the southernmost shore of Hudson Bay. Sorry about the confusion...
 * Wait, you formed New Scandinavia in 1664 or before that?
 * In the midst of all this confusion, a small coastal kingdom has been discovered on the South American continent, roughly equidistant from Anglo-German and Vietnamese holdings. Their main exports are fish and sugar cane and they speak the Guaraní language.
 * Are you sure you wish to start as that?? The Ottomans, Mamluks and many other currently large nations are avaliable for play
 * I thought StarkBlack was the Ottoman Empire?
 * However, he (StarkBlack) only appears sporadically.he is almost inactive.still, i don't think that is advisable take his place as Ottoman Empire. and, i highly doubt that the natives in the coastal area of today's Brazil would achieve to form a complex society 150 years after the first European contacts with them.and your nation is away form them, in what i think that are the coastlines of the states of Ceará and Piauí.there were societies more complex in the Amazonic Forest (namely, Tapajoso, Manoa and Onguayal).and, there are various unoccupied countries (most of the African kingdoms and North African sultanates, nations in Europe like Portugal, Kulin in OTL Australia and various other, which already exist.
 * Righto then, I'm Portugal.
 * Öböl expands 1150 sq km south inland, and the settlement on OTL Western Sahara expands 600 sq km, thanks to the efforts of the various colonists sent there.the southwestern settlement of Újfundlandi és a Labrador expands 1000 sq km south.Meanwhile, Poland offers to buy a strip of land of Doitsochichou, in order to have a littoral.
 * Sweden rejects this proposal, but offers free use of the ports and roads to allow Polish sea access.
 * Poland accepts the offer.
 * China advances heavily on Aztec Territory from the north. Several important routes to major cities are cut off. In December, a scouting trip finds Tenochtítlan. A Chinese general plots the takeover of the city, which is surrounded by water.
 * Burgundians continue in the campaign against Flanders to the north.
 * France incite Burgundy to enter in its alliance with Naples, and answer the napolitanian question about what is its religion.
 * Russia Again continues to conquer the mountains of the far east and Russian Forces have surrounded Evenkia. Disscussion is going on in the razriadniy prikaz(central command of the military) as wether or not to invade. Kamchatka is brought under control of Russia and officialy annexed as Russia but only a low to nonexistant military force is sustained. the city of Okhotsk grows. Russia offers to buy the Joeson Kamchatka colony. Russia turns their head towards kamchatka. Many expiditioners to the area report sighting of other land(alaska) over the sea surrounding kamchatka,as do travelers of the northwest passage. The Russians tell the sweeds not to invade AGC and offer to have a joint policy of administering the strait of jutland.
 * King Chanrak requests that China recognises its claims to Yucatan, particularly the north. They warn that if their claims are not recognised, they will not declare war, but there is little they can do to control Prince Ehkanankhne. Elsehwhere, the navy is sent to seize control of Mamluk and Ottoman colonies on Florida. Colonists also expand into Florida. Colonisation is sped up by Seminole support in Florida.
 * The Doge of Venice continues to upgrade the military and expands Terra di Calore by 1550 sq km. (will expand upon but don't have the time atm)
 * Joseon expands their Kamchatkan colony by 2000 sq km, hoping to claim some of Kamchatka before the Russians arrive. Meanwhile, Columbia is also expanded by 500 sq km.
 * Hanthawaddy continues its general trends in military expansion. Hanthawaddy expands north along the border with Kulin at 1300 sq km, and establishes a base at OTL Kinglake, and the northern settlement expands north by 200 sq km. OTL Guajira expands west 500 sq km.

1665

 * Sorry for the negligence in the chinese part of Maya/Aztec, but i left a message in CrimonAssassin's talk page exactly for knowing if he would take OTL Guatemala and Honduras as the 1288 px that he had right to in Maya territory or all the 1904 px that he had right to in Maya/Aztec territory.and he never replied.i am still waiting for a reply.as for the Mamluk colony, i'm still waiting for a algorythm to be made.
 * Okay, i think that i updated the map with the Chinese conquests on Maya/Aztec. they didn't appeared yet.
 * Vietnam expands their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese survey their borders defences in Furansuchou for potential weaknesses, which they then build up and reinforce. The Vietnamese continue to expand their military in preperation of the delayed Irish War. The Vietnamese build massive fleets for both transporting troops and battling the navies of their enemies. They also build massive barracks in Rochefort to allow the Furansuchouan city to serve as a command center for the European operations of the Vietnamese armed forces.
 * Joseon expands Kamchatka by 3000 sq km. They send many more colonists to Kamchatka, and also hears rumors of gold in Kamchatka.
 * Naples is in mourning, for King Benvolio II "The Pious" has died a natural death. All flags are flown at half mast for a week until the coronation of his son, King Angelo, in which they are raised back up. Angelo makes the reversal of the Irish policy known to the public, stating that Naples will not go to war against Vietnam unless Vietnam attempts to move into the Italian Peninsula or attacks any of Naples' colonies. He apoligizes for the statements his father made during his last years regarding Vietnam, saying that Benvolio II was growing old and losing his once great mind. As no Mamluk resistance has been encountered, the Mamluk colony on Cuba is fully added to the Neapolitan colony of Ricasolia. Angelo continues his father's policy of donating large amounts of money to the Roman Catholic Church.
 * The Russians finaly conquer and control all of Kamchatka(as if it were not clear from prior posts, namely last year), wiping out any little pockets of resistance left. The Russians also send a small force equiped for the harshest conditions to chukotka and some land is seen across the OTL bering strait(Alaska). The Russians Suspect it is a part of America or another island. Although most forces in Chukotka are expiditionaries, they are sent to map out and learn the territory to make it easier for Russia to traverse the Mountainous terrain and Steppes. Russia Expands their Canada Colony by 2000 km. Russia sends its condolances to Napled for the loss of Benvolio. The Russians are not so sure why the governement of Naples is donating money to the church when it almost wrecked the economy just before Benvolio's death and can be used for much better things. Un urban boom starts in Lithuania and lasts for the next 2 years as more people move to the city. A lesser one happens in Russia but to a lower extent(Im trying to pave a way for industrialisation). The largest settlement of Novaya skandinavia is officialy named Novaya Warszawa(new Warsaw) and is made the Capital. Novaya Skandinavia is renamed novaya kamchatka.
 * Sweden continues military expansion. The officals in Southern Scandinavia prepare to annex the region in the following year with massive public support for the decision. New Scandinavia is expanded by 1250 sqkm.
 * Öböl expands inland south by 1250 sq km, the OTL Western Sahara settlement on Canariae Insulae expands 500 sq km, Afrika expands 500 sq km, and Uruguay expánds 500 sq km.the navy on Hungary continues to be reconstructed, while Poland amps up its army.Andrew IV elevates Hungarian to official language of the kingdom along with Latin later that year.In December, Poland declares war on Moldavia, supported by Hungary.
 * A Chinese General proposes that ships are taken apart at the former Aztec Coast and transporting the parts to a river near Tenochtítlan. The ships are reassemled and will launch an attack on Tenochtítlan. The Chinese go with the plan, capturing Tenochtítlan. The Aztecs, demoralized, suffer heavy losses this year, capturing much Aztec territory.
 * France expands the colony of New France 2000 sq km and starts the export of coffe and american spices. Robert III follow the new Naples' policy and ask for peace to Vietnam. Even so, he want the unity of the european christiaity and says that he is disposed to act as mediator in the vietnamese-irish conflict. He also sends a message to aevery european christian leaders and intellectuals: He invites all of them to a council in Paris, where he wants sign a new trety of universal peace and cooperation. He also invites the leaders of Vietnam, Joseon, China and Hanthawaddy to act as partners.
 * Vietnam x Venice discussion moved to talk page
 * Venice continues to upgrade its military with the new Genovesi Arsenal, boosting production of weapons for the Genovesi forces and the Venetian navy. The Doge also grants Genoa the right to send a convoy of ships to Cinque Isole, boosting the colonial population and causing there to be more Genovesi there than Venetians and expanding it by 1550 sq km. The Doge also begins to negotiate with Ireland about the defence of their nation.
 * Where is Cinque Isole? i mean, in which island is the first settlement?is to avoid that, as a example, i make the first settlement in OTL Andros and then you complain that in fact is in OTL New Providence.
 * According to the map I made with Venices moves over everyone elses, the original settlement is in New Providence, due to me only noticing that Veitnam had basically already got all the eastern islands already. And when did I complain? I swear I didn't but if I did sorry bout that.
 * Burgundy conquer all Flandes.
 * Hanthawaddy's military updates of the past two years reach Katimon. Settlers welcome the new introduction of artillery, and fortifies their base near Kulin. Katimon expands inland to the east of the base at 1400 sq km. Bi Hloa expands south by 1200 sq km in a relatively thin band along the west coast. In this way more trade takes place with the natives.

1666

 * The Polish armies attack northern Moldavia in the western part, instead of attacking the capital Iaşi.However, the under-equipped Polish armies do few advances on Moldavian territory, and by 1666, the Polish armies only conquered 500 sq km of Moldavian territory.Hungary amps up its military, and Öböl expands 1100 sq km inland south.Canariae insulae expands 500 sq km south on the mainland settlement.the southwestern settlement of Újfundlandi és a Labrador expands 550 sq km south, while the settlement around OTL Smallwood Reservoir expands 550 sq km towards the littoral of Labrador.Afrika expands 50 sq km.
 * The Venetian Doge upgrades the military and expands Nuovo Venetia by 1550 sq km. Venice promises that France and Spain will automatically gain land from a war with Vietnam and that war is imminent, The Doge asks Vietnam to step down.
 * The Burgundian army returned from the war against Flanders. To this the king held a party for victory in the campaign. France, Naples, Russia and Hungary are invited to come to this party and to recognize the sovereignty of Burgundy in Flanders. Charles I also wants to make alliances with the Christian nations. Burgundy's economy becomes stable and the army has been diminished by war and disease.
 * Joseon gives Russia the deal of selling their Kamchatka territory in exchange for their Sri Lanka territory. Meanwhile, Oregon is expanded by 1500 sq. km, while Columbia is also expanded by 1000 sq km, and the Phillipiens are expanded by 500 sq km.
 * Emperor Jayadeva of Hanthawaddy orders a slow end to the new burst of reforms. Meanwhile, settlers in Katimon raid Kulin. They fight through and discover the dwelling of Kulin's king. Many atrocities are committed by the settlers, but the settlers believe that only through conquest of Kulin can they conquer the Dreamtime and solidify Buddhism in Australia. Many colonists in Katimon support their cause. In addition to hiring Shan an Chinese mercenaries, the settlers humbly asks support from Russia, China, Anglo-Germany, and Vietnam.Colonists around Kulin expand by 1000 sq km, due to the number of colonists seeking glory in the conquest of Kulin, gathering in tent-settlements. OTL Araya expands west by 1000 sq km.
 * The Aztec civilization surrenders to China. Integration of the area commences and rebuilding of the damaged cities begins. Will add more later
 * A civilization cannot surrender to China. Tenochtitlan can, however. You still have to crush dissent throughout the empire. Also, I can redo the algorithm, but when do you want to be the beginning year for part 2 of the war?
 * And how the map will stay? i have to do it all over again?--Collie Kaltenbrunner 20:35, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I figured a war on natives with far less superior technology would wrap up at the fifteen year mark. I've had some help from other countries. When would you say is a plausible point at which the Aztecs surrendered?
 * It's okay for you to take Tenochtitlan, but you need the 33% of the empire to fully conquer it. This will require you to do more algorithms.  But let me know a year range for the second algorithm like (1660-1666).
 * Spain will fight the vietnamese if they step foot on European ground. The form up there entire army. The spainish king raise taxes to pay for the coming war.
 * Just a question but there was a post where, despite the algorithm and plausability, Yank said that Vietnam won basically and that my "obsolete" fleets were destroyed, despite the algorithm showing that I have won and that plausability showing my fleet is one of the worlds most advanced. You can delete this once its confirmed.
 * I was angry and not thinking straight. Anyway, you'd be happy to know that I'm no longer interested in invading Ireland.
 * Naples states that Venice is the aggressor in this war, and sends a message to Spain that Vietnam did not make any expansion, or state that they planned to expand at all, prior to Venice's aggressive attack. The King of Naples abolishes the Treaty of Italy and severs the alliance with Venice. Due to to Vietnam's popularity following their aid during the recession (which Venice did not give, many note) and the subsequent Vietnamese periods in architecture and art, the Neapolitan people greatly favor Vietnam, and anti-Venice riots break out in many cities following the news of war. Angelo makes no declaration of war however.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. They agree to end the state of "cold war" with Venice and Ireland in exchange for economic compensation for the Vietnamese sailors killed by the Irish. Vietnam's constant military expansion is halted, as the tense situation has been defused. The Vietnamese turn their attentions to helping the Nipponese pacify the last of the Japanese resistance. They are willing to turn over any territory north of the Sendai line to Joseon as part of their deal.
 * Robert III declares that, even though his position is the defence of the christianity, his alliance with Naples and his desire for peace is stronger. However, Venice started the hostilities, ergo, France has not casus belli against Vietnam. Robert III ask Vietnam's forgiveness, and is now well-disposed to accept the vietnamese precense in Europe. However, he want not destroy the allaince with Venice and belives that a new peace can be make. He invites all the european christianity to not enter in the war (France did not withdraw its support to the irish, only to the venetians). He wants now create a new alliance between France, Naples and Burgundy (and, if it is possible, Russia, Spain and Anglo-Germany). The invitation to sign a new peace treaty still standing (It would be as the Treaty of London in OTL). Now he want redirect the military efforts to the Middle East. Robert III creates a new and better army and call the Pope to come to Paris and talk about a possible new crusade, to get the unity of the christianity.
 * Sweden continues military expansion. They do not wish to take part in the fighting. The Anglo-German lands in Southern Scandinavia are offically annexed into the Swedish Empire.
 * Russia makes small inroads into chukotka and take a break. The Russians upgrade their military and condemn the Venician invasion of Vietnam. The Russians stand firm agianst the crusade for the unification of christianity as the Russians have a natural dislike of the pope and do not want to follow the catholic doctrine as orthodox christians. The Russians Take to the rivers to expand their siberian holdings, capturing areas bordering rivers by transporting koches. The new Tsar adopts a new Tsarist Standard, and Tsar's Flag(civil ensein), and the Tsar's flag is ordered to be flown over civilian ships while the standard is only flown on the Tsar's Ship or on Royal ships or ship decoys.
 * I didn't mean "unification" of the christianity, I meant unity against the enemies of the christianity (the ottomans and mamluks). I lament the confusion.

1667
2 - which Chaguaramas?the Venezuelan one is in the inland and considering that the Vietnamese are already in Trinidad, the Trinidadian one is already occupied.
 * Naples begins to focus on building up the European branch of their military, fearful that with so many of their soldiers overseas securing Cuba, they will be unable to participate in a major European war, the likes of which seem very close to occuring with the current tensions between Venice and Vietnam. Angelo sends word to Vietnam that Naples will side with their ally against Venice, due to increasing anti-Venetian attitudes among the people of Naples. They agree with France that the Mamluks, Ottomans, and other Islamic states are the prime enemy to Christiandom, and inform the French that they have worked to end Mamluk influence in the Caribbean.
 * The Venetian-Vietnamese war has pretty much been cancelled.
 * They still aren't going to become best of allies right off the bat.
 * I know. But we're going to work on that. WIth Vietnam no longer intent on conquering Ireland, I do believe that we could se a normalization of relations by arround 1676.
 * Already working on it but its understandable for tension to continue to exist and in many ways it should still exist.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese offer to supply soldiers for the upcoming Fifth Crusade, as they are eager to ease tensions that had built up between them and the Catholic nations of Europe. The Vietnamese request asistance defeating the Islamic states of North Africa. They offer the French territory in the Algerian Sultanate as a reward for their asistance.
 * France accepts the vietnamese offert and, as guarantee, the prince Jacques is envoy to Vietnam as ambassador. Now more than ever, Robert III call for a council in Rome, the sign of the treaty and the declaration of the new crusade. Robert expect that this treaty end the problems and the hostilities among the christian nations. The colony of New France expands its territory 2000 sq km.
 * Hanthawaddy sends a large amount of support to the war against Kulin, and again asks its allies China, Vietnam, Russia, and Anglo-Germany for help in crusading against their primitive religion. The main settlments are plundered, but are met with fierce resistqnce by local warriors. Katimon a little bit east of Kulin expands north 800 sq km. Bi Hloa expands south 1000 sq km, and New Pegu expands east 550 sq km. A settlement is created on the tip of the OTL Chaguaramas at 50 sq km.
 * 1 - Where is New Pegu?
 * New Pegu is the eastern part of Dunquk Dung. I mean Trinidad.  It was never explicitly claimed by Vietnam, it just so happened that you put it on the map, according to your own preference.  We try to give preference to people who are more specific, rather than just posting first because it encourages more detailed and realistic posts.  Hope you understand.
 * Poland conquers 2500 sq km of territory in Moldavia, although both sides suffer heavy casualties.Meanwhile, Öbol expands 1850 sq km south inland.the mainland settlement in Canariae Insulae expands 900 sq km.Hungary continues to amp up its military.
 * Due to the lack of defence offered to the northern states by Naples, Venice manages to push Montferrat to sign into the unification with Venice, Siena and Tuscany now wary of the lack of defencive capabilities start to sway towards joining with Venice, with open support for a union sprouting up in cities. Milan also has now been approached by Venice with garuntees of its seperate soveriegnty as long as it would asist with the unification of the north, included in the treaty is also a garuntee of mutual asistance in wars. Milan asks for soveriegnty to be passed from certain Venetian areas to Milan. Venice agrees and the treaty is signed.
 * Meanwhile Venice offers to tribute Vietnam in return for the outwards hostilities and offers to negotiate a fair treaty with Ireland between those affected by it so that everyone may be satisfied and so that major war can be avoided, Venice hopes to achieve an agreement that colonisation will not occur in Europe or South East Asia by the opposing parties so that mainland soveriegnty of nations may be garunteed. Venice also delivers a statement saying that a census is needed on all catholic nations, and whether they still consider themselves to respond to the Pope as authority, to establish what nations would be prepared to expand Christondom in the western continents, it also offers to expand this into a Christian alliance (that would include all branches of Christianity) whereby no Christian nation may attack another and that they would asist each other against external threats to religious soveriegnty.
 * Portugal founds a colony on the Eastern coast of South America (OTL Brazil).
 * Russians Make more gains on the numerous rivers of siberia an equip their soldiers with the necessary supplies to survive the harsh condidions of central siberia(as learned over many years). The Russians state that they will not follow the pope in any decisions, even a crusade agianst the Ottomans(although help would be apreciated. The Russo-Ottoman Relations deteriorate after many warlords attack the Russian possesions in the northern Caucassus. Canada expands by 2000 km. Russia continues to update military. A large town on the Baikal is given the name Irkutsk, Tomsk is founded along with a town of Novosibirsk. Turkansk is founded. The First full census of the population is conducted. Russia counts 20 million inhabitants from the colonies to the pacific.
 * Sweden continues to develop its military.
 * China makes more pushes in Aztec territory. Most of the Eastern Coast is under Chinese control by now.

1668

 * The Polish expansion in Moldavia comes to a halt and in the end of the year, Moldavia offers a peace treaty to Poland.Hungary continues to amp up its military.Öböl expands 1300 sq km, while Újfundlandi és a Labrador expands 950 sq km on the central part of the colony, towards the southwestern settlement.the mainland settlement on Canariae Insulae expands 500 sq km
 * Spain forms a army for war. The start consturction of a fleet. The king of Spain send a message to all saying if Venice is attacked Spain can and will go to war with the attacking nation. To make this clear Spain offers to send Venice 2500 men to use.
 * Venice accepts the troops and sends back to Spain offers of Increased Trade along with several Venetian ships to gift to the Spanish Navy.
 * The Venetian Doge orders the military to be upgraded with a new naval invention, a faster reloading cannon, the entire Navy is slowly refitted over the course of the year. There is also a surge in population in Nuovo Venetia allowing it to expand by 1550 sq km.
 * A Venetian proclamation is published that officially claims southern Savoy for the Venetian Republic and defines that such an acquisition may be military or diplomatic (The Savoy Proclamation), there are also other proclamations published, that claim Florence, Siena and Asli for the Venetian Republic and defines that such an acquisition may only be diplomatic (The Italian Proclamation) and another claiming the OTL Bahamas for the Venetian Republic and defines that such an acquisition may be military or diplomatic (The Colonial Proclamation). Proclamation Information is on my Talk page
 * Portugal founds a second colony on the West Coast of Africa.
 * Burgundy has not yet received news of the emissaries sent to Naples. The Burgundian army was repaired and began to rebuild the Flanders ports for maritime trade.
 * Venice sends Burgundy an offer of Free Trade with no tariffs to boost both the economies of both nations and the relations. They also ask whether they would be interested in the territory of Savoy.
 * After a rebellion in Itsaygahi conquered Yucatan, the new King Michirak decides that the realm is overstretched, and pulls his troops out. Prince Ehkanankne refuses to leave, and proclaims himself King of Yuacati, and claims the Yucatan as his sovereign territory. His troops brutally oppress all resistance. Elsewhere, King Michirak continues expansion into Florida, and seizes all Mamluk and Ottoman colonies on the coast of the peninsula. King Michirak is styling all new construction in the style of the ancient Mixxixxippians. For this reason, he will be known as the 'Barrow-King'. This will be twisted overseas, and it will be believed that he has command over the souls over the dead, and can raise slaughtered soldiers from their graves to be an army of living death. All complete fiction, but it contributes to his mythos. Construction is begun on the Mosque of Equagadahu, now considered one of the wonders of the Western World.
 * France expands Haiti 2000 sq km. The king ask permission to send troops to Vietnam to start aiding them in Algeria. Robert III assure the Tsar that the caimpaign against the Ottomans will be manage by the entire christiandom, and not only the Pope. In fact, he wants give representation in his concil to the non-catholic branches. France sends ambassadors to Spain, asking that this country take away its support to Venice. Robert ask, again, the call of a council among the christiandom, to give back the peace and cooperation to Europe and Asia.
 * Venice asks France to kindly leave Spanish and Venetian politics alone stating that Venice has always tried to assist France and continues to do so. The Doge would also like to make it clear that France has no authority over Spain and should have none considering their history.
 * The Vietnamese expands their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. They have mostly finished absorbing the Lesser Antiles by now, and have set sights on expanding in the mainland. They also start an offensive in Algeria, which they coordinate with the French offensive. They make a deal with the French that the French will get the majority of the territory gains in the war against the Algerian Ziyanid Sultanate. The Morrocan Marinid Sultanate is mostly a Vietnamese puppet state, and is thus not a threat in the Algerian war.
 * Btw guys if you are having a war then use the Algorithm don't just say, I win! ok thanks.


 * Russians Expand into siberia through the rivers and agree to visit the paris conference along with the muscovian metropolitan. Russia wants to get siberia before Joeson controls all. The Russinas send more expiditions, expand their military and expand their Canada colony by 2000 km and Afrikanskaya Zemlya by 1000km
 * Joseon expands Kamchatka by 3000 sq km.
 * Russia=kamchatka, Kamchatka=Russia...
 * You're being absurd. The latest map shows that your territory has only just reached the Sea of Okhotsk. I think you're biting off mure than you can chew. I think you should expand into the vast areas of Siberia next to your main territory that you've summilarily ignored for years. 
 * Naples refuses to recognize the claims of Venice over the Bahamas or the north Italian states recently occupied. They expand Ricasolia over the small straights of water between Cuba and the southernmost Bahaman isle of Great Inagua. The Igaguan Branch of Ricasolia is expanded to 800 square miles, claiming much of the island. Meanwhile, Naples donates a bit less money to the church, and invests the extra money into their military.
 * Seriously, Venice is expanding too fast to be realistic. No one could conquer all of North Italy, defeat the Hungarian Empire, and still found three colonies within just 2 decades.
 * I agree. He's being too greedy, just like Lx is with Russia. He needs more time to absorb his territory. At least Russia has the money, population and resources to plausibly support their claims. And just because he "claims" something, doesn't mean it's binding. Officially the Treaty of Tordesillas divided the Americas between Portugal and Spain. Unnofficially no one took it seriously besides the aforementioned nations.
 * Sorry about that, I am just veryanxious to absorb siberia before 1700(as it was in OTL)...I had many proposals on the talk page and could somebody please tell me a date for ALL Siberia so I can pace my posts.-Lx
 * That's the thing. This isn't OTL. And even if it was I would think that Russia would expand evenly through Siberia instead of going off on a race to Kamchatka to deny it from the people who have lived there much longer than the Russians. Besides, there are North American colonies that you have neglected in favor of your race to Kamchatka.
 * I think his expansion along the south to Kamchatka and such is just to encircle the wilderness of Siberia so that no one can claim it, not because of any particular want of Siberia itself.
 * Thats one of the many reasons that siberian expansion is driven along the borders(along with greater speed)... Joeson may have had Siberia via manchuria and the territory was tribal and needed to be conquered by someone... -Lx
 * Well Naples, I didn't militaristically conquer all those Italian nations and plue those claims have not been conquered. Also money? Venice is a center of international trade, technically if we compare its OTL position to the ATL postion Venice is the worlds richest city in this timeline most likely so we can trade for all the resources we need and population? I have the right population to enact my claims. Also why act colonially agressive Naples? this will not help you, only gain you someone who will actively resist you.
 * ​Sweden continues military expansion. Hodlaand is expanded by 1250 sqkm

1669

 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. They start expanding the colony on the coast of the mainland south of Trinidad. The Vietnamese give more support to France in the Algerian War. However most of the support is logistical and the soldiers Vietnam sends are sent to serve under French commanders. With most of the territorial gains going toi France, much of the Vietnamese leadership is not eager to go to war with Algeria. The official Vietnamese stance on the war is neutrality, as they have more pressing issues to take care of. The Vietnamese reestablish control of the long-abandoned trading outpost in California. The residents survived by maintaining a profitable trading relationship with the Anglo-German, Chinese and Korean colonies along the coast. The outpost survived politically by the fact that it was still technically controlled by Vietnam, and thus was avoided by power intent on colonization.
 * I'm sorry Galaguerra. I just realized that with France getting most (if not all) of the land gains that it would be implausible for Vietnam to be directly involved. 
 * France also continue fighting against algerians. The colony of Haiti expands 2300 sq km. To animate the vietnamese command, and convice them that the war can be adventageous for their contry creating a new status for the algerian territory; a free trade zone, open to the immigration of vietnamese people and trade of vietnamese industries. Also the soldiers who partcipate in the war, will be recompense for their efforts and lose time. Even so, Robert wants not to pressure the vietnamese policies about the war. He opne the colonies to international trade (ending the monopoly), but just with Vietnam and Naples. Robert III iniciate formally the council in Orléans. This would be a permanent diplomatic conference, and any christian (no necessary catholic) nation can send ambassadors to it. He call Charles of Burgundy, Thai Phương of Vietnam and Angelo of Naples to send ambassadors and be the first signers of the new treaty of universal peace and cooperation (among the christiandom).
 * Venice sends note to France that they will send Naval support should the French need it and guarantee that such an arrangement would leave 100% of the territory in Frances hands.
 * France accepts the new venetian policies and ask the doge to send ambassadors to the council to make and agree with Naples and avoid a inecessary war.
 * The Doge himself along with several influencial ambassadors will go to the council.
 * Russia asks france for aid as an ally...please
 * Naples sends messages to the rest of the Christian World. They state that Venice is marauding through the North Italian states, conquering many Christian nations that were previously independent with no motivation other than pure territorial gain. They predict that with such quick expansion, Venice will have weak control over the vast quantity of territory that it has gained, and therefore could probably be easily stopped. They tell their fellow Catholic nations that in the past, Venice showed hostilities toward the Pope in the Papal states, and almost started a meanlingless war between Christian nations just a couple years ago out of more territorial greed. They say that all Christian Nations,and any other nation that is concerned about Venetian expansion, should send a message to the Venetians telling them to free the Italian states that they have recently occupied for no reason during the last several years. They expand Ricasolia another 400 square miles onto the large southern Bahaman Island, and they use the rest of their resources to build up their military. Angelo states to king Robert that peace cannot be held in Christiandom until Venice stops their pointless conquering of free Christian lands.
 * Robert III rememers to Angelo thath Venice was not invited to the assembly. France has intection to resolve the diplomatic trobule (because he hopes that it is not a war trouble) in the council. If Naples sends ambassadors, the venetian problem can be solve, and the whole chrtiandom can be word in this matter.
 * The Vietnamese agree that they are alarmed with Venice's aggressive territorial expansion. The Vietnamese Emperor states that he is "appaled by the sheer hypocrisy of Venetian actions." The Vietnamese point out the fact that Venice suggested a pact to prevent Christian nations from attacking one another, and yet they are off on a wildly aggressive campaign of conquest through northern Italy. Especially when they prevented the Vietnamese conquest of Ireland for similar reasons. Vietnamese relations with Venice, which had been repairing since the Irish standoff ended, drop to an all time low for this outrage. The Vietnamese Emperor declares that the --- Proclamation will be ignored by Vietnamese leaders, and thjat it will have no impact on any potential Vietnamese colonization of the Bahamas.
 * By every rule set for colonization, the Venetians still need to wait 50 years to set up a colony there. And I see nothing in the rules that says a colony establised by conquest is immune to the rules.
 * Naples sends Duke Mario, Angelo's brother in law, to the Council as Naples' ambassador. Duke Mario states that they cannot defeat the Muslim Ottomans and Mamluks from bringing war to the world until they stop their fellow Christians.
 * The Doge of Venice offers a council to negotiate the Bahama dispute along with Vietnam if they wish, included in this offer is the reduction of the Bahamas claim to only the five currently partially or fully colonised islands. However Venice defends its position, saying that the north Italian states signed into the union and technically still have soveriegnty of sorts however are protected from outwards imperialism due to the Union. They also point out that the Pope agressively led the Holy Roman Republic (a basphemy against himself) to try and brutally conquer the northern states. They also point out that they have done nothing but worked with the northern Italian states to unify them against external threats and that breaking the Union (which all of the states are opposed to) would simply be an invitation for imperialism by another power.
 * Oh, they're vassal states, not totally conquered? In that case you are blatantly violating the rules. Quote "You may have vassal states subordinate to your nation, but contiguous to your nation. They are ruled by your first nation's government, but are allowed to keep their own interests. You may have up to two vassal states, and they are in the category of colonies." You have more than two, and most are not contiguous. Therefore, making all those states vassals is violating the rules. And you still have more than 2 colonies in a 50 year period, which according to Yankovic your conquered colony is not exempt from. 
 * They are not vassals they are part of the Union Venice has created a Confederate Union particularly (its like the north german federation) where the governments of the states have almost complete flexibility in governance and the central government can't force every single policy on the rest of the Union. Also Yankovic is no longer a moderator as DK said if you look on his talk page, and plus conquering is not the same as founding, so therefore you could conquer 3 colonies and still establish 2 more.
 * The elderly and now heavily religious King Gustav declares war on Russia. He orders thousands of troops across the border in a huge campaign to "preach to proper word of God to the followers of the fake Russian religion". His daughter (next in line) opposes her fathers decision and runs away to Poland. She does not wish for other nations to attack Sweden but only wants a stop to her fathers elderly rambling without harming her nation in anyway.
 * Venice gives support for Sweden considering recent Russian attitudes. However they advocate that Russia should be tuaght a lesson then dealt with peacefully.
 * France incites Russia and Sweaden to send ambassadors to the council and solve theirs problems. If Russia still refuse to send ambassadors and accept the catholic mediation, France will support Sweaden.
 * Personally I hope the Russians lose the war. It'd give Lx a well-needed sense of humility and teach him to be more grounded in his posts.
 * For Russia to win they need either 9 in chance and 4 more allies or just 7 more allies and any number in chance, also any nation joining on Sweden's side would be sure to gain lots of territory if they haven't expanded too much due to Russia's 10 year+ expansion efforts and the fact that Russia has two vassal states.
 * Just so you're aware, should you defeat Russia, you're setting back technology in the game by about 25 years, because Russia has earned the privilege to be the heart of the Industrial Revolution. But there's no problem, just so you know. It is only natural that your country would want to prevent the Industrial Revolution from happening, so don't let that detract you from doing the war. -DK
 * Well, why cant Sweden lead the Industrial revolution with the booty from Russia?
 * It will definitely help you industrialize. But Lx got the privelege to lead the revolution, so as long as he is on the game it will be his revolution. Technology does not just appear just out of money, or else it would not have been Britain who led the revolution in OTL (although resources was not something they lacked). There are other factors which must be taken into consideration.
 * It's 1669. I think the Russians have enough time to recover from the war, and I think that the war may provide the inspiration for the Russians to industrialize.
 * Maybe not 25 years, but significantly.
 * Taking advantage of Kulin's rivalry with the Daung Warrung, settlers in Katimon from Hanthawaddy manage to capture a good part of the tribal confederacy, leading to the chief to issue a formal surrender. Hanthawaddy annexes the Isla la Margarita and connects New Pegu with OTL Araya at 2000 sq km. Hanthawaddy continues upgrading its military with further additions of new artillery and firearms. Hanthawaddy also does a significant amount of work on its navy, introducing ships armed with advanced artillery for shelling coastlines. Jayadeva states that it would be regrettable for a country with such a rich maritime history fall behind so far with its navy. Hanthawaddy announces its staunch support for Russia in the Swedo-Russian War. The Rajah of Toeh Ngoa Nyoing is extremely worried about the fate of the Kola, the delicately-balanced power between Russia and Hanthawaddy which would bring severe economic hardship to its inhabitants in the cold, should a foreign power occupy the Kola. In addition, many share the myth that Sweden may ban trade along the northeast passage, cutting off Hanthawaddy from Toeh Ngoa Nyoing. Supplies are pooled from Hanthawaddy's other colonies. Nevertheless, the rajah is willing to initiate diplomatic talks with Sweden, traditionally an ally of Hanthawaddy. A suprisingly lucrative whaling season helps console fears, and counterract the consolidation of resources for military means.
 * Sweden sends Hanthawaddy an ultimatum. Cease all support for Russia in this war and Sweden will allow Toeh Ngoa Nyoing to continue their activities in peace. However, if Hanthawaddy continues supporting Russia then Sweden will attack from India. A response must be given before 0:00 UTC 28 September.
 * Khoh Hutao, Rajah of Toeh Ngoa Nyoing, is unimpressed with the deal, announcing it will remain firmly in support of Russia. Jayadeva does not receive the message due to the northeast passage freezing over early.
 * Andrew IV declares war on the Ottoman Empire, with the objectiv of conquering all Ottoman-owned Europe (not all the Empire), and asks Russia, Venice, Naples, Portugal and Spain to support hungary on the war.Poland allies with Hungary, and for the third time on his reign, Szabolcs leaves Poland in control of the nobles to lead the armies personally.Öböl expands 2750 sq km inland, and one strip of land from the inland reaches the littoral, not far from the actual littoral (a little bit up north).
 * Robert III of France ask permission to Hungray to send troops to support its invassion and iniciate the Fifth Crusade. He asks Andrew to send ambassadors to Orléans.
 * What? you are asking for me to send troops to support you on your war or you are saying that will support me?
 * I will support you. I ask you to send ambassadors to Orléans and join to my project of crusade.
 * 'I accept both consitions, but i can't send any army to your Crusade, since most of the Hungarian army is invading Ottoman territory.So, i will support, but not militarly.
 * In fact, your invasion is already part of the crusade, but the user of the Papal States did not declared it yet (appropiate, Is that user active? If he is not, who can declare officially the crusade as Pope?).
 * The player is AFK so to speak and the Papal States will revert to a grey state soon as in 1670.
 * Changitistan and Kazakhsan, and Lithuania declare war on sweeden The Russian forces are rounded up and using their larger population. The Updated RUssian Troops are motivated by keeping theri orthodox fait and by defending Mother Russia's territory,Lithuanian troops rush to Russia's aid as Russia asks Anglogermany for aid in the war due to the fact tha Russia. Russia Asks the HAnthawadans not to leavwe their support and Asks Russia's ancient ally, Anglogermany to aid them in the second Russo-Sweedish War. Russians are very patriotic and siberian corps and Cossacks attack from the Northern Sea(arctic). Spetsnaz will resort to using much black powder bombs. Russians amp up militrary tacics and troops are sent to train
 * China declares support for Russia, though they cannot donate troops at this time. Meanwhile, more Aztec/Mayan territory is captured.
 * The Doge of Venice sends his army south to support the Hungarian invasion of the Ottoman Empire along with a sizable fleet to defeat the considerable ottoman ships of the line. They plan not to conquer the Empire, like the Hungarians but simply to capture lost Venetian lands and to expulse them from Europe. They also send Venetian troops to take over the defence of the Mamluks colonies should they be attacked with the goal of annexation within the coming years. They also send naval support to Sweden to fight against Russia.
 * Support the Mamluk colonies?
 * The ones the Naplese colonists have been fighting with for control of Cuba, if they diliberatly violate my claim because I make it, then I will make sure as hell that their picnic is not easy.
 * It's too late, we already took over the Mamluk colony, and the Cherokee people (forget their real name) have already taken the Mamluk colonies in Florida. You would be launching an attack on the colony of Ricasolia itself, the Mamluks on Cuba are subjugated. They have no colonies left for you to defend.
 * Why no algorithm and an unfair complete conquest of the lands in one year, which is completely unrealstic, There would be a little more than "no resistance" plus after saying there was no resistance, you never mentioned it again. Thats against the rules.
 * The conflict lasted more than 1 year. I asked for an algorithim multiple times, but no mod made them. I posted that should an algorithim be made that showed me not gaining the whole colony, I would post that there was new resistance that was successful. Once more, because the Mamluks collapsed, they were unable to defend their colony, so it would be just Naples vs. that tiny colony, which is probably small enough to simply be annexed without the algorithim (a moderator told me in the beginning that a very large and powerful nation can simply annex really small and weak ones for my war against Sardinia)
 * ಠ_ಠ sardinia wasn't weak but hey annoying stuff happens sometimes, plus I think algorithms should be used all the time and in the case of non-player nations there should be an alternate one that calculates how long it takes you to conquer it instead of fighting a one year algorithm and hoping.
 * True. I guess it can be changed that they were aiding resistance fighters against Naples, that were without their aid to minor. In this timeline, Sardinia was weak because Naples already conquered half of them when the first person played as it before they left. In 1670, I will post the beginning of the conflict with the rebels.
 * Yes make the conflict very much like Guerilla Warfare, and try not to mention the Venetians too much as I plan to have them to falsely defect (under orders to do so) and will fight standing battles against the Naplese, so you write the Guerilla Warfare and I'll write the standing battles. And lets try to keep it at a stalemate but one that may eventually effect more than just Cuba.
 * Spain declares war on Portugal. A massive Spainish army enters Portugal on all fronts. The fleet blocks all ports.
 * Venice sends support and sends assistance in the form of a strong Venetian land force. However they say that a full military force would only be ready to assist in a year or two.
 * Joseon supports the Swedes, but only on the condition that they will gain Russian land over Manchuria, as well as Kamchatka. Meanwhile, the military is amped up, and troops are mobilized and sent to the Joseon-Russian border.
 * Can you post up a battle algorithm for this??

1670

 * Naples' Colony of Ricasolia is in chaos. The East Cuban portion and the Bahaman portion are still going smoothly, but te West Cuba portion, recently taken from the Mamluks, dissolves into revolts. King Angelo suspects the Venetians of attempting to take the colony, but he does not have enough forces to fight in both Europe and Cuba, so he is silent in his suspicion. He sends troops to the colony, hoping to stop the revolts before it becomes all out civil war. The three sides in the revolts are the pro-Naples side, mostly the occupying Neapolitan and Christian Cuban native foreces; the Seperatists, a few of the Mamluks and most of the Pagan natives; and the Venetian-Mamluks, composed of most of the Mamluks and some of the pagan natives, as well as many Venetians who claim to be acting without the consent of their Doge.
 * France develop its military: New war orders and provission-routes to Algeria are opened. Robert says that if Russia send a ambassador to Orléans an recognaise the equiality of right of the two branches of the christianity, the support of France in the war will be assured. Robert welcomes the Doge and call a meeting with the Naples' ambassador to make a agreement of mutual benefit.
 * Naples' ambassador, Duke Mario, meets with the King of France to attempt to work out a deal to bring peace to western Europe, although he sees that Eastern Europe is about to be involved in another war.
 * The Doge sends emmissaries to France to see what can be done to secure relative peace in eastern Europe
 * If the result of the Swedo-russian war is irremediable...I'm sorry, I was not enough quick to help you D:.
 * It is still in flux. If France wishes to support Russia then Russia actually has a chance of winning.
 * As I said, if Russia accept my terms (some humility before the catholicism) I will support it.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony by 28*50 sq km. They approach the Venetians with a deal on the status of the Bahamas. The Vietnamese will control the portion south of the Venetian colony in exchange for their recognition over Venice's right to settle the rest of the island chain. The New Lithuanians begin a campaign of territorial expansion in Borneo, as they have begin to exploit the resources of the island. Soon income floods into New Lithuanian coffers, and by extension Vietnamese coffers via the annual tribute. New Lithuanian ports have grown exponentially, as they are used as a trade hub for Far East Asian trade. The New Lithuanians live with a standard of living unheard of in the old country, especially in the early days of Russian rule. It was this prosperity that allowed them to intermarry with the local natives of the archipelago on a large scale, with the native tribal languages a combining with Lithuanian to form a unique creole language called Lietuano. Most of the native tribes had converted to Christianity years ago, but were worshipping a combination of Christianity and their own native beliefs. This makes the New Lithuanian branch of the Catholic Church likely to follow the example of the branch in Vietnam. The Vietnamese Emperor has declared that any Vietnamese Chrstian who wishes to return to the Catholic Church may do so, but only after they sign a pledge declaring that they will not let loyalty to Rome go before their loyalty to Huế.
 * The planned divide is on the talk page and is up for negotiation. Theres a plan for a war to engulf the entire northern carribean (Cuba and the Bahamas) which will eventually lead to a peace treaty that we all find amicable.
 * The Russian Tsar sends an ambassador and the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church himself will attend the orleans conference as long as his views are treated with respect(although the Tsar garantees an ambassador and orders him to be very attentive and mindful to others points of view and be verry acceptive of the catholic's beliefs... although there is an 85% chance that the patriarch will go). The Russians send more trained troops to the front. Russian, Changatian, Kazakh, Lithuanian and Cossack troops working together is one of the major scenes of the wars. Another Urban Boom is made in Lithuania and Russia. More anti-russian sentiment arises in West Changitistan. Some pesants flee to the colonies of Indeolkeanskie zemli and novaya kamchatka to avoid the horrors of war. The ballance of the war is changing nearly every battle, nobody knows who will win yet... The Russian Tsar asks all of its allies to aid the Russians in the War as the war is currently in a de facto stalemate. The Russians asks Naples to aid in repulsing Sweedish imperialism under a banner of the church falsely as Russia is another christian nation and The Naplese were against christians attacking other christians in their past statements. The Russains learn from their mistakes in the past year and learn from their mistakes and improve theri tactics(amp up military).
 * France sends troops to the russian borders to support the Tsar in the war. He welcomes the Tsar and his suite, and invites the king and princess of Sweaden to the negotiations.
 * King Gustav seeks more allies in his war against Russia. He sends envoys to Vietnam, Naples and Spain pledging Swedish support in future wars if they help in this one. His troops manage to break the walls of Saint Petersberg and seize the city. Princess Christina visits France and tries to negotiate for a peaceful end to the war with the Tsar via his ambassador in France.
 * St Petersburg doesnt exist yet... it was founded in 1703 by Peter the Great, A Tsar That isnt even born yet.
 * Most probably, the Russian capital still is Moscow, as it was in OTL, and the thing in the place of OTL Satint Petersburg was a fortress called Nyenskans.
 * Robert III wants make peace between Russia and Sweaden. He is disposed to support the princess in her effort to avoid more hostilities. The youngest son of Robert, prince Henri, Duc de Cote d'Ivoire, wants marry with the princess and create an alliance.
 * The armies go south of the Hungarian borders, taking some territory on the process, especially south of Nandorfehervár.Andrew IV asks for help from Naples once again.Öböl expands 2000 sq km inland towards the littoral.
 * Burgundians ports begin to trade with Venice, bringing the economy. Burgundy begins to have a very stable period of peace because they have had after the war of Flanders. Charles I told that has interests in the Mediterranean Sea, and that Savoy may be a target. The Kingdom of Burgundy is again isolated, only relying on the alliance with France. Proposes new economic agreement with the Swedes, an emissary travels to give the proposal.
 * France ask support of Burgundy in the war against Algeria, and send ambassadors to Orléans.
 * Venice brings its main army back from fighting the Ottoman forces but leaves an occupying force and then the Doge orders the army to prepare to invade Savoy (within which much discontentment has arisen between the Italian south and French north) to enforce Venetian claims however offers Burgundy a small enclave on the western border of Savoy in return for assistance in the war. They also offer France the territory laid out in the Savoy Proclamation in return for bringing Savoy under control in 1670. While they wait the military is upgraded with Milanese sharpshooters and several recently deserted HRR infantry. Meanwhile in Cuba, the highly prestigious noble Arrigo the Younger, a veteran of the Venetian-Hungarian war and Milanese war, recently deserted with a large fleet and reasonable army which allied themselves with the Mamluk rebels furthermore the Bahamas colony has allied itself with him, he funds the war with money in Venice, Milan, France and many other Christian states, his motives are currently unknown. The Venetians say that the Bahamas are technically not currently under the control of the Venetian authorities and so no deal can be currently worked out with Vietnam or Naples. Also new negotiations begin with the newly re-established Papal States under a new Pope about Unionism, most meetings are painful and many insults are thrown but progress is being made.
 * France accepts the venetian offer and will support Venice in case of war. In the discussion I put a map of the possible post-war divission of Savoy.
 * Naples' former Archbishop, who is the new Pope (Benvolio's and Angelo's vast donations to the church over the course of several decades has granted Naples enormous influence over the church) declines to join with Venice, citing the southern portions of Italy, Naples, as being much more religious and generous to the Church. Angelo's offer of placing the Papal state under a protectorate of Naples is much better received.
 * Don't want to seem like I am power hungry, but Naples has been donating obscene amounts of money to the Church for many many turns now, to the extent that they almost bankrupted themselves earlier, so it only makes sense that they would be the ones to exert more influence over the Papal states. I have been planning this ever since Altair became less active, not in response to your moves in particular.
 * Venice along with the other Northern Union states see this as an act of agression towards them however do not mount any military aggression against it, they just act politically aggressive. Meanwhile Milan finally mobilizes under threats to break the treaty and joins Venice militaristic campaigns.
 * Russia asks for Neopolitan support in the war as the Sweeds are engaging in imperialism in another christian nation.
 * Naples is afraid of war in the Caribbean, so they want to save up their military. Naples, angry at the Northern States for defying them and the Pope, stops protesting Venice's domination of them, seeing it as a lost cause.
 * A tiny ammount of support would help... il repay you by helping you in the carribean after the Sweedish war.
 * Robert III asks the Pope to go to the Council and incite the other christians states to send ambassadors too.
 * Hanthawaddy sends a small amount of support to the Ottoman war, wishing to take over the colonies of Aden and Diu, which would be lost to the Ottomans should the Empire lose its coastline. Hanthawaddy continues updating its navy, despite a famine in Bengal. Hanthwaddy wraps up the Kulin war, taking its new possessions, along the coast. Hanthawady also updates the navy near Toeh Ngoa Nyoing. Explorers make an attempt to traverse the ice route between Toeh Ngoa Nyoing and Svalbard, ending in utter failure. OTL Araya expands south 800 sq km, bordering the Vietnamese colony. Katimon's northern settlement expands north 1000 sq km.
 * Posessions calculated at 950 sq km. See talk page.
 * Spainish forces move farther into portugul claiming more land.
 * Joseon, finished with all preparations, invades Russia, crushing the few troops that are in the Far East. (Will post more later)
 * I think the war has already begun, and it is too late to build up your military for the algorithim
 * Okay, then.

1671

 * The Russians amanage to make certain advances and push the Swedish more and more out of their territory as the Swedes attacked and had gained some ground due to that fact. The Russians Use some Guerrilla warfare of the Saami peoples and Gaugamellan Blitz tactic to push the Swedes away(even though they are not fully out of Russia for now). PS: we need to decide how long the war will last...so we can make actual war posts and know for how long. Everyone seem fine with 4-5 years? or longer mabe?(PS there will soon be a civil war in Changitistan nobody...please nobody intervene, it was because of Changatai not necessarily wanting to go to war with Russia and then Getting mad and declaring themselves not a vassal anymore.)
 * Naples donates as much money as the can to the Papal States, in order to gain more influence in the area. They also begin to build forts along the northern border, having found that the reckless expansion of the previous Pope under the "Holy Roman Republic" nearly bankrupted the Papal states. However, they can only provide minimum resources to this project, with the majority of their efforts being to attempt to squash the revolts in the former Mamluk colony. They blame Venice indirectly for causing these revolts, but have no proof since the general officially deserted. As more troops pour into the three-way colonial civil war, even tribes which are in free areas of Cuba begin to get dragged into the conflict.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Caribbean colony by 28*50 sq km. They create an enclave around a port settlement built in the OTL location of Puerto Plata. This is to help better connect their Caribbean colony to Vietnamese claims in the Bahamas. They approach the French with a deal dividing Hispaniola roughly along the French colony's northern border, which they allow to remain fluid until all potential disputes are ironed out. The Vietnamese wish to deal with any problems before they spark conflict like in the Neapolitan Cuba colony. There is a growing movement in New Lithuania to gain more autonomy, or to possibly free New Lithuania from Vietnam. The movement's progress in towards the latter is halted when the Vietnamese governor agrees to address their grievances. The Vietnamese Governor promises to do all he can to eventually see New Lithuania free and allied with Vietnam.
 * Haiti and New France both expand itself 1150 sq km. The king offers the following deal to Vietnam: Vietnam can has a portion of land in the northern Hispaniola, (no greater than 30 - 40 px) and the rest of the isle will be french. Also the french will gives permission to the Vietnamese to create routes and industries in the french territory (in the island). Observing the recent disputes about the territory claims, Robert III call again to all his allies and other christian countries (even the princess of Sweden, who is already there) to go to the council an fix new borders and claims and avoid any future dispute about the territory. The prince Henri, suitor of princess of Sweden, travels to Rome and asks the Pope to declare officially the Fifth Crusade.
 * The Vietnamese respond to the French offer by making a counter-offer. They ask for a strip of territory along the northern coast of Hispaniola, as the purpose of the territory is to better link the Bahamas with Vietnam's Caribbean colony. In the end the French would still get the lion's share of the island's territory.
 * The armies keep advancing.the ones attacking from the province of Albania advance quickly in the year, and Athens is taken in October. small advances into Peloponnesus also are seen after that.the armies attacking from Nandorfehervár advance, reaching OTL Nisk in the process.the mainland settlement of Canariae insulae expands 1000 sq km, and Újfundlandi és a Labrador expands 1200 sq km, 150 on the OTL Smallwood reservoir settlement, and 1050 sq km inland, on its central part.
 * King Gustav dies of pneumonia a week after crossing a Russian river in January. The heiress receives the news just after agreeing to marry Prince Henri. The wedding is postponed until after her coronation. Christina travels back to Sweden and manages to restore order to the nation. Her first announcement is the end of the war with Russia. She apologizes to the Russian Tsar. Now Queen Christina plans to marry her groom in a massive ceremony in Rome with many heads of state invited.
 * Burgundy has sent ambassadors to France. Peace still prevails in Burgundy, even in these moments of tension experienced in Europe. Burgundian fleet has been a success and the market economy is safe in its journey from the North Sea to Venice. The Army has experienced its peak because of the peace and tensions against Savoy, leads to Burgundian nationalism to the war (but not officially). Messengers are sent of new to Naples for the purpose of military and economic alliance for the prevalence of Christianity in Europe.
 * Naples signs onto the military and economic alliance with Burgundy, hoping for more allies in the war in the Caribbean.
 * Venice invades Savoy, with crushing force a large army although slightly disorganized spills across the border and secures the south with ease, due to many Italian forces deserting to join Venice meanwhile more difficult fighting occurs in the north as French regions fight with more vigor, Milan sends troops to support them and Venice calls for allies to join it in the war. Meanwhile Arrigo the Younger constructs a secret base of operations underground in Cuba, the tunnels extend far out to several areas of Cuba These tunnels will not be discovered until the end of the war allowing quick routes of attack, this is shown by the arrival of the main body of the Venetian-Mamluk force at a Pro-Neapolitan camp in the south, ending in its destruction and the very fast soon after destruction of a Pro-Neapolitan fort in the north east, whose main force had been dispatched to intercept the Venetian-Mamluk force, the Pagan natives meanwhile have been building forces not engaging in major battles. The Venetian forces on the Ottoman coast, are severely attacked several times, however after re-establishing Venetian controlled crusader states, many new warriors become available. Meanwhile Venetian troops who were involved in the Sedish-Russian war are stranded, and begin to settle down on the northern coasts of both nations, at least 5,000 men and women.
 * France invades Savoy to support Venice and realize its claims. The king ask the neapolitanian and venetian ambassadors to selves the conflict with his mediation (started a few turns before). Robert ask, please, to the Venetians not support the fake-relegions peoples, like Mamluks.
 * Burgundians invades Savoy to support Venice and realize its claims.
 * Naples sends as many spare troops as they can to Ricasolia, but they cannot stop revolts, which with the help of the Mamluk-Venetians and the rising-up of the Pagan natives has resulted in a full-fledged war occurring. Many of the Eastern Ricasolian soldiers desert, fleeing into the jungles to the west so they don't have to fight. This is due to tales that the Western war has become a deathtrap, with massive casualties for the Neapolitans but few gains, and brutal acts of violence occurring. Angelo states that Venice should help Naples deal with the rogue Venetian general.
 * The Venetians state that they cannot deal with him because of the risk of any forces being sent there may refuse to fight or may desert and add to the carnage, and any actual heavy military action against him is highly unrecommended, his forces know the Bahamas inside out and are using both unconventional and conventional warfare to destroy opposition, plus the current European territories need to be secured. However Venice does send an agent to speak with the General.
 * Spain push all the opposing troops left in portugul to the southern tip for a final battle.
 * You can't just annex a player nation like that, an NPC with mod permission maybe, but not a whole player nation.
 * Continue to wage war and this time with Milanese support you should be able to break them.
 * China continues to take more Aztec and Mayan lands. Meanwhile, in China, the first draft of a best-selling book is written: Crouching Tiger . It is considered a masterpiece still to this day. The military is also amped up this year.
 * Yeah, you can't really have a bestselling book when there's no industry. Perhaps you can circulate it among the nobles, but that's about it.
 * Well it becomes popular later on down the road.


 * Hanthawaddy expands its military's size by creating a set program for recruitment in villages. During the dry season, men would work the fields while a standing guard of nobles and mercenaries would be the army. In the wet season, military training would take place. In peacetime, the military would be content with one or two representatives per village, but one soldier per family is expected in wartime. Many soldiers are sent overseas to fight for Russia in the Great Northern War. OTL Guajira expands west by 500 sq km along the north coast. Bi Hloa expands south 1200 sq km. Katimon's northern settlement is expanded north by 300 sq km.
 * I dont think that Scandinator's that down for a great Northern War...realy too bad though.Without King Gustav the War is basicaly pointless as Christina does not want war(seamingly)... I was looking forward to Declaring Russia an Empire(officialy) after this :'( -Lx
 * I think he was disappointed that he wouldn't be gaining massive territory from the war
 * Joseon invades more of Russia’s Far East, which is poorly supplied and armed. Entire platoons are coming to the Koreans to surrender, while generals and other high ranking officers surrender to the Koreans, giving them a wealth of intelligence on the area. Meanwhile, a secret Korean infiltration teams sneak into China (TOP SECRET), poised to assassinate national leaders in the case of war. This is considered a suicide mission, and they all are volunteers, willing to die for the Korean cause. Also, the Korean navy moves in, in the position to engage the Ramanian navy, if necessary.
 * You do know that Sweden just dropped out, meaning you will lose this war?

1672

 * The Vietnamese expand their Puerto Rico colony 28*50 sq km on Hispaniola. The Vietnamese announce that they will supply the Portuguese with arms and funds for their war with the Spanish. They officially declare neutrality in the conflict, but make no attempt to prevent Vietnamese soldiers from serving on the Potuguese side. The Vietnamese Emperor makes a statement declaring that he will not stand by whilst "the Spanish thug devestates Portugal".
 * You could have created a colony if you wished to expand your territory. Instead you try to force your will on your weaker neighbor. Why did you start attacking? What is your motivation, other than to bully a smaller country?
 * I have never did anything to you. If you have a problem with me say it to me. If not get out of my business ok? you got that?
 * No you didn't do anything to me. But the fact that you are waging an unprovoked war with Portugal makes my blood boil. What did he do to you? Again I say that you could have created a colony. It would have been a lot less trouble for all of us. But I take satisfaction in the fact that your landgrab will only net you a paltry 3% of Portugal's territory. 
 * Before i'am done there will be not Portugal that I will make sure of.
 * If you mean by defying the algorithm to say you conquered more than 3%, then you will be banned. Or, you could go the route of attacking them 20 more times until you defeat the government and manage to conquer it, but that will take a while.
 * I will just keep attacking until I take it i'am not going to cheap for that is wrong and only playing this for fun.
 * You would probably get more land if you began expanding your colonies or making a new one
 * I know I guess want portugul so am going to take it.
 * It's sort of irresistable to grab Portugal if you're Spain. Try taking SOME land this war, have peace, make a colony or two, and then grab the rest of Portugal. CrimsonAssassin 03:16, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * take another few chunks, hopefully we can get some help from the crusader states in the future.
 * if a nation is inactive (does not respond for five days), it is considered in civil disorder and thus fair game for conquering even if one was allied with it.  He as not post in five turns so I should be allowed to take all of Portugul. This is in the rules look it up.
 * In fact, you can, since Portugal did not expanded its military.but you still will have to build up your military first.
 * But you still need to follow the algorithm when conquering a nation as powerful as Portugal
 * Naples' King Angelo condemns Spain for bringing war against an innocent Christian nation, but takes no action. No progress has been made in the chaos that is the Mamluk Ricasolia war, with vast casualties occurring every day. A Neapolitan army attempted to march through the jungle to attack them from land, but this time they were not helped by the natives and had less luck with diseases, resulting in a tiny force attacking the Mamluk colony, not enough to reconquer it, but enough to kill many. More luck is in Europe, where the Pope cedes large amounts of governmental authority of his over the Papal states to King Angelo, the Defender of the Faith. This makes the Papal states a vassal state of Naples.
 * Post_War.pngan Forces Push back all opposing forces to the borders. The Morale of the Russian Troops Hightens as their main motivational phrase after the death of King Gustav, is "kto s mechem k nam voidet, tot ot mecha i pogibnit"(Whoever shall enter our land with a sword, from the sword he shall die). All of the above were quotes form the Great Novgorodian Prince Alexander Nevski, the one who defeated the Swedes in 1230 and Russians Draw parallels between his battles ad the battles now. The Russians manage to talke the little "bump" that Sweden has into Russian territory(it will be clearer when I post an image what "bump" means). The Russians propose a treaty to Queen Cristina of Sweden and for the next 10 years involving a small Tariff that goes to all goods from Russia to Sweden in exchange for the bumb of land forementioned. The Russians Ambush the Joeson Forces that were given false information by "Surrendering" generals and were led into a Spetsnaz black powder minefield. Many Joeson troops die and are retreating to their border as reinforcements come from Russia. A top of the line group is sent to The Joeson Capital of Pyongyang via submarine for the purpose of Assassinating the Joeson Emperor and Generals if he does not surrender. This mission is TOP SECRET. OVVR are ready to start civil unrest and sperad propaganda in Joeson if this happens.
 * Sweden dropped out of the war when it was still a tie, so you can't take any territory from them. Joseon continued the war once Sweden dropped out, meaning they would lose because 1 less combatant, so you would take territory from them instead.
 * See talk page. Once you join a war, you've committed to whatever happens to the algorithm unless the opponent agrees. And Joseon will need a new algorithm.
 * Wait, Courland still is independent.how it is Russian territory on the map?
 * When I checked it said Russian Victory. That Bump is still annoying though! So I Change it to have the territory forelisted bouht in exchance for Sweedish tarrif on Russian Goods SOLD in sweeden
 * What you are trying to say?
 * I want to buy it in exchange for no war reperations.
 * but Courland is not Sweden's vassal or part of their territory.how you are going to buy it?
 * The armies on Athens make two offensives, one south, into the Peloponnesus, and the other north, into Thessalia.the former advances througfh the region, conquering Corinth, Árgos and Pirgos before stopping near Dobrolitsa.the latter makes some advances on the region.the navy launches a attack on Rhodes, which is successful.Meanwhile, more territory is taken by the armies attacking from Nisk.Öböl expands 2400 sq km.
 * The Spainish king has a change of heart giving back Portugul all of its land and paying for any damages caused in the war. Spain Moves all troops back Spain.
 * Venetian troops push deeper into Savoy and manage to finally conquer all of their lands with assistance from French and Burgundarian troops. Meanwhile in the far off Bahamas/Cuban situation, the Venetian-Mamluks respond to what is now reffered to as "the burning of the white cloth" with a cannon attack on the Ricasolian capitol settlement however are responded to fast enough for the settlement to be saved but many have lost their lives in the attack, the fighting has now gone into total war or "Nosangunnocente" as coined by the Venetian ambassador after seeing the damage done to the cuban mainland and the burning remains of a settlement were both warrior and citizen had been killed, it is unknown who was the aggressor but the war has gone to a new level of violence. The northern states all sign the "pact of defence" calling all northern states to arms should an attack be fostered against any of them. the Venetians also try to push a "pact of assertion" to the other states which would call for war in attack or defence. The old Venetian Doge is currently in Pyongyang having wanted to see the Emperor, he brings many gifts such as a copying of Leonardo da Vinci's works, a revolutionary new weapon called the rolling-arm rifle for the Emperor and a group of Sassaniso, special agents of the Doge. In the Ottoman east several nations rebel and throw off Ottoman rule meanwhile more crusaders pour into the crusader states and even make an offencive towards the western coast of the Anatolian peninsula however make no effective gains but gain several victories against unexperienced Ottoman generals.
 * Robert III of France invites Vietnam and Spain to send ambassadors to Orléans. Cote d'Ivoir expands its territory to the coast, to Guinée, 1000 sq km(I want unite the two colonies). Haiti is expanded 1300 sq km. The french troops in Algeria continue advancing to the capital. Count Henri invites his family (Robert III, the Prince Jacques and the princess Jeanne) to the wedding.
 * Spain accepts frances offer.
 * Somebody can make the algorithm for the Algerian War?
 * Itsaygahi continues its colonisation of Florida. The Charter ports expand in size. The Natchez kingdom expand along the Mixxixxippi River until OTL Arkansas State. The glory of a new Mixxixxippian Empire is espoused on street corners across the realm, and it is said that Allah himself commanded King Michigahu to recreate this empire.
 * Swediah troops take their stand at the border. Queen Christina proclaims an age of peace and prosperity and invites the Russians to join in with an economic alliance. Hodlaand is expanded by 1250sqkm.

1673

 * The Vietnamese expand their Caribbean colony by 28*50 sq km on Hispaniola. The Vietnamese agree to sending am ambassador to Orleans, as they have much to discuss with the French. The Vietnames, alarmed at Spain's agressive behavior towards Portugal, sends an envoy to Portugal with a deal. The Vietnamese will set aside a portion of the Vietnamese Caribbean colony to Portugal. The purpose of this territory is to serve as a refuge for the Portugeuese on the off chance that the Spanish eventually succeed in conquering Portugal. The Vietnamese sign an alliance with Portugal promising to protect the Portuguese from the Spanish if or when the day comes. The Vietnamese seize control of the former Ottoman colony on the Chesapeake. However, the colony retains a form of independance until the Vietnamese can formally annex it.
 * The armies on Peloponnesus keep advancing, taking Sparta, and conquering all of the Peloponnesus by June.parts of this army are realocated to Thessalia.there, the armies advance north, and start to take territory in OTL Bulgaria.the armies on Rhodes are reinforced and do a attack on the Anatolian mainland.Crete is also attacked, even though only Kandiye (OTL Heraklion) and surroundings are conquered.the mainland settlement on Canariae Insulae expands 1000 sq km.Öböl expands 1500 sq km.
 * The Russians offer some support to the Hungarians in exchange for the holy city of Constantinople when they get it as Constantinople is one of the major cities and the entrance from the mediterranian to the Black sea. Russians, clarifying their proposal, want to buy the land mentioned as territorial scesion in the map posted before from sweeden as war reperations. Russia will then have to pay a tarrif for goods comming FROM Russia but not to Russia for the next 10 years in exchange for that land(that's the "Catch"). The Russians Continue their fight against the Koreans, making good improvements to their military armorement and tactics, overall improving it. The Russians are in full out war with Joeson and are fighting for Mother Russia. The Spetsnaz is ready toinitiate the assasinations if Joeson doesn't serrender.
 * I'm not talking about that part of Swedish territory that will be given to Russia.i'm talking about Courland, and you can't buy it from Sweden, since it isn't swedish territory or a vassal.and, Hungary refuses the proposal about Constantinople.there will be a Greek state formed after the war, and Constantinople is essential.
 * ​Lithuania conquered it some time ago...like in the 1640s or something. Lithuania did it without Russian Assistance.
 * Venice having won the war with Savoy celebrate by offering the new members citizens to go to the Nuovo Venetia colony, which expands by 1250 sq km. In the Ottoman war the Venetians secure the rest of crete for their alliance and manage to also crush resistance in the greek island chains. While in Joseon, the Sassaniso fulfill their task of keeping important people safe, they find and kill several Spetsnaz and capture the rest losing only three of their number, the old Doge also gives the Joseons a garuntee that if given time, more Italian states will come to assist Venice with them. The current Doge also visits the last North Italian states that are still sperate from the NIU with several offers, that Tuscany in particular seems to be interested in.
 * Isnt there some sort of special formula to decide wether or not the actions were successfull or not because spetsnaz were not doing anything and the mission was Top Secret...assasinations have not been atempted yet so I think there is a 3 country formula or something to decide if it fails.
 * LxCaucassus would have had to have contacted me earlier with his "three countries of interest.
 * Haiti expands 2300 sq km. Robert III asks to Naples declare the crusade, becouse Rome is its vassal.
 * Mon colonists prepare for a second attack on Kulin, hoping to secure another coastline. By now, the settlement of OTL Kinglake has been named New Kachari, and has reached a population of about 1500, at about 30% native and a small but growing minority of indigenous Daung Warrung people. However, as the trade in the city is seemingly unprofitable due to the inability of the natives to produce tools deemed useful to the Europeans, the bulk of trade is aimed at enriching the local inhabitants by selling agriculture and such technological marvels as carts for transportation. Katimon's northern settlement expands north 1350 sq km and Bi Hloa expands on the southern coast by the same amount.
 * Chinese ships bombard northern Aztec cities and put down isolated pockets of resistance in Central America. Plans for colonization and annexation reach the Emperor. The first proposal is a rather grizzly one: complete genocide of the native peoples. The second one is a light-hearted one: allowing those who don't wish to be in Chinese colonies to leave. The third one is the one approved by the Emperor: All Natives, once the hostile ones are put down, are integrated into the empire, though a choice really isn't given to them. The Emperor forsees that the natives will wish to stay with their former lands.
 * I've done the Algorithym, but how do I calculate my earnings of the lands?
 * Percentage times total.
 * Sweden develops its military. Hodlaand is expanded by 1250 sqkm.

1674

 * The Vietnamese expand their Caribbean colony 28*50 sq km in Hispaniola. Plans for the expansion into the Bahamas are shelved at least until the ongoing war is over. The Vietnamese, worried about the Chinese wars in the Aztec and Mayan Empires, sends government officials on secret missions to the Empires to help safeguard the local culture. Hundreds of Aztec and Mayan codexes are rescued from the offices of an overzealous and unscrupulous Chinese military officer intent on burning them. They also uncover evidence that this officer is among a small group of Chinese officers who have been abusing their authority to gain enormous wealth at the cost of the natives. The Vietnamese authorities hand over the information directly to the Chinese Emperor with the intent of breaking up the extortion racket. The Vietnamese Emperor suggests to the Chinese Emperor an accord banning this form of abuse, as they cannot afford the damage done to their reputations by this kind of operation. The Vietnamese send a copy of the accord to their allies in Hanthawaddy, Anglo-Germany and Sweden. This is far from the end of this kind of abuse of power, but it is definitely a step in the right direction.
 * China thanks Vietnam and has an investigation on the corrupt officers. The amount of corrupt officers is startling. China replaces the corrupt officers with ones that have had thorough satisfactory evaluations. The corrupt officers are punished. At the very least, a demotion. The most serious offense was death: A Chinese officer made personal claims to 10% of the Chinese-Controlled Mayan Territory. The Emperor quickly makes it illegal for officers to claim territory for personal gains during war time. This law will eventually, after countless reforms and additions, become one of the most important military laws in China and perhaps beyond.
 * With no response from the Koreans, the Russians send a warning to Joeson that if they will not surrender they will pay the price. The Russians celebrate peace with the Swedes during Siberia-Pacific festivities. The Russians send three trade ships to the Maya and Aztec empires via Novorossiya as a research expedition. The Russians are terrified by the rituals of human sacrifice that are still present. Hearing that the Codexes of the Mayas may not be connected with this horrendous act the trade ships are filled with them and exit the nation without leaving a trace of being detected by Chinese. The Codexes are kept locked away in the Tsar's personal vault where they will remain. The Russians continue learning from their mistakes and improving their military tactics. The Tsar Orders the Spetsnaz to Assassinate the Joeson Emperor if he does not respond and keep fighting by 1675. Russians get modest gains along the pacific coast. The Russians prepare for the invasion of the Ottoman Empire after military recuperation from the Sweedish war. that is all...for now
 * I don't want to seem offensive, but you may want to get a spellchecker. Most importantly is Sweden/Swedes/Swedish, NOT Sweeden/Sweedes/Sweedish
 * Damn... I keep making that same mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.
 * You can't invade the ottoman empire, not without mine or hungarys permission considering that it is covered on all sides by the soon to be Byzantine Empire to the northwest, the crusader states of Venice to the south and Kurdistan to the east. look at the map on my talk page or wait until tomorrow
 * Im only after the Caucasus., nothing more. I like those mountains... A lot...and Russia has a long history of going with war with the otomans. All I want is the Caucasus.
 * Nope, sorry if you want the Caucasus, try and get them but Venice will not sit idle.
 * You would think that if Venice got in any more wars, they would go bankrupt. No nation, however wealthy to begin with, can go to war on so many fronts and still be capable of waging another one right after with no problems.
 * Good point but we will still resist Russian imperialism, just expand in the east, its much safer and simpler there however the Caucasus will remain independent.
 * Naples sends more and more troops into the colony of Ricasolia. Despite extreme losses, they are slowly making gains, although many say that any victory will by Pyrrihc. As the war continues, the Pope in Rome declares that the conflicts against the Ottomans and Algerians are officially "Crusades" against the Islamic empires. He sends special word to Venice that if they concentrate on making sure that at the end of the war that the Holy Land of Israel is in Christian hands at least, he may be able to get Naples to be willing to repair relations with the Northern states.
 * France develops new war machines and adopts new tactics based in the modus operandi of the tribes in Haiti, Africa and North America. The princess Jeanne is looking up a husband, and Robert III plans use that to create new alliances. All the ambassadors in the council are called to the first session which will include all of them (the session will be the next year, if somebody want withdraw or send ambassadors to Orléans), it will be presided by the king himself and the prince Jacques. The Pope is invited to preside it if he want. France call to attend to the crusade. The Algerian War continue and Henri asks for help to the queen Christine.
 * Naples' Ambassador Duke Mario comes with the Pope to the meeting. Meanwhile, King Angelo's son Carlo is mentioned as a potential husband for Princess Jeanne, as they are about the same ages.
 * Öböl expands 2750 km inland.Meanwhile, the Hungarian armies advance through Thrace and OTL Bulgaria,and by the end of the year, lay siege on Constantinople.other parts of the army proceed to invade Anatolia.Bursa and Smyrna are conquered, and the armies there advance more.
 * Venice starts expanding its military again and enjoys a period of time where the Ottoman front is quiet for them, they turn to the Caucasus and garuntee the new kingdoms and empires protection, along with sending cursaders to secure them as new christian nations enforcing christianity on them and crushing resistance to christian ideals. The Venetian bankers warn the Doge that Venetian coffers are starting to drain and unless they are given time to recuperate will diminish to nothing in another 10 years at the most. Venice manages to gain Codexes and copies of Codexes from the Mayans and Aztecs, they are kept in the same safe storage that the Leonardo Da Vinci drawings are stored in. Meanwhile the war in Cuba is becoming painful for the rogue General, after losing several staged battles due to the Mamluks failing to perform, he begins to rely heavily on mercenaries giving the Mamluk forces simple resource targets. However he manages to destroy the majority of the Naplese fleet off the coast of Naples southern Bahamas island, allowing him to blockade resources and troops from getting to the colony.
 * Naples sends word to Venice, that if they know any means to to stop this rogue general, they will help the Venetians stop the Russians from expanding further into the Middle East. Naples has become that desperate, they cannot continue this war and keep their economy afloat.
 * King Jayadeva of Hanthawaddy uncovers a request for alliance by the French from several years back, which got lost when the ship carrying the message got shipwrecked off the coast of OTL Angola. Jayadeva apologizes for the delay and accepts the alliance with France. Meanwhile, Hanthawaddy upgrades its military further by increasing the amount of artillery used on the battlefield without sacrificing transport time. Katimon's northern settlement expands north by 1500 sq km, while Bi Hloa expands east along the south coast by 1050 sq km.
 * Robert accepts the Jayadeva's apologies, and his alliance. Invites him to send ambassadors to Orléans to the next year.
 * A new Scotish general starts unifiying the country. Kill all rebal generals. Forming a national army and fixing the poor economy.
 * What you meant with that?
 * What is with these new users? Eldwolf and now SliceB00m all seem to have an almost pathological hatred of Spellcheck. Lx is getting better at spelling, and thankfully LurkerLordB has proven to be the exception to the rule.
 * Kunarian's spelling really isn't that bad, are you sure you aren't confusing him with someone else?
 * Stole the words from my mouth.
 * I apologize for lumping you in with those two.
 * Sweden continues military development. New Scandinavia is expanded by 1250 sqkm.

1675
As the Incan Empire enters civil disarray, a large number of wealthy individuals migrate inland to the forest kingdoms of Onguayal and Manoa. These countries set up more efficient governments, and begin subjugating huge amounts of neighboring land. By the end of the year, Manoa has expanded in all directions, tripling its territory, and Onguayal doubles its size by expanding in all directions. An Estonian general manages to unify Estonia, ending the many decades of civil disarray. Pirates from southern Italy and North Africa launch a large attack on the Venetian Arsenal, crippling a large amount of its military capacity. The pirates are backed by countries who wish to end Venice's monopoly over a many goods in the Mediterranean.


 * The Vietnamese expand their Caribbean colony 28*50 sq km in Hispaniola. The Vietnamese react to the loss of their Incan allies with a mixture of sadness and anger. The Vietnamese declare a day of mourning for the last Inka and his family, who were presumed killed in the chaos enveloping the empire. Most people in Vietnam welcome the news of the attack on the Venetian Arsenal with a grim sense of satisfaction, as many in Vietnam dislike the Venetians for blocking their "just punishment" of the criminal regime in Ireland. The Vietnamese recognize the newly-independent Scottish regime, but are quite alarmed by the militaristic overtones of the new regime. The Vietnamese make plans for expanding their outposts in California and Maryland to full colony status by 1686. The Vietnamese propose a plan dividing California into three sections with the northern section going to Anglo-Germany, the central section going to Vietnam and the southern section going to China.
 * You do know that Anglo-Germany's User, Zagoria, hasn't posted for two weeks?
 * Naples is outraged due to the fact that the pirates have harmed Neapolitan ships as well. They immediately begin to help Venice defend against the hated Muslim pirates, despite their dispute with their fellow Catholic nation. They state that the French attack on the Ziyanids must be supported by all Christian nations in order to weaken the pirates. They state that Marinids and Hafsids should also be put on the list of nations to be attacked soon, as they are also North African Muslim nations. They hope Venice will help end the Ricasolian war soon, so they can concentrate on the dangers closer to home.
 * Morocco is a Vietnamese puppet state, and is on its way to being annexed by Vietnam as a colony. It isn't a supporter of the recent pirate attacks.
 * I meant the Marinids, I wrongly assumed they were called Morocco
 * The Marinids and Moroccans are one and the same. The map refers to Morocco by the name of the dynasty in power. That's why Algeria is labled "Ziyanid" on the labeled world map in the talkpage. They are still not a supporter of piracy either way. 
 * Note that the reason given for the attacks was that they were North African Muslim nations. In the eyes of the racist Neapolitans, they are guilty by merely being of the same religion as the pirates. Vietnam should in-character confirm that they are controlling the Moroccans
 * The Vietnamese send a message explaining that Morocco, a Vietnamese puppet state, was not a supporter of the pirates, as they are too much under Vietnamese influence to do anything of the sort. The Vietnamese scorn the Neapolitans for their rascist "guilty until proven innocent" attitudes towards the the North Africans.


 * Jeanne Bertrand, princess of Lyon, and daughter of the King of France announce her intention to get marry with Carlo Entori, prince of Naples. The council of Orléans is open, and Robert III says to all the ambassadors the next: 1.He marks the necessity of the whole Christiandom to join the Crusade against the Zayanids, Ottomans and Mamluks. 2. The peace must be done between all the christian countries, with no exceptions. Robert invites the new Scottish government to send ambassadors to Orléans. The prince Jacques is also looking up wife now. The french army steal from Algeria some weapons and books, adding to it the Algerian war tactics. Robert give more independence to the church authorities in the country, and offers to the Pope the city of Avignon as enclave in France.
 * The Pope accepts the offer to gain Avignon, while Carlo's wedding is being planned with the French princess.
 * The Russians declare war on the "Warlords" of the remaining ottoman empire. With their staff recuperated, the Russians rush into Astrahan and Georgia. The Russians have a feeling that the attacks on the Venetian arsenal being God's punishment of the Meddling ways of the Venetians, looking at them relieved that Russia may now have a good way to trade in the Mediterranean, along with the ending the Venetian monopoly, but they condemn the attacks on Neapolitan ships. The Russians Recognize the Scottish independence form the Keltic Union. Lithuania also mobilizes its military into the Caucasus. The Russians seeking refuge from war go to the colonies of Novaya Kamchatka for hiding, expanding it by 2000 km. The Russians improving their tactics of war by learning from the mistakes of the Swedish war. The navy is recuperated and launches attackes from the Caspian and Black seas. The Russians emmidiately befriend the Estonian General that has Unified the country of "Estland". Kazakhstan's Vassal contract is renewed. The Vassal Contract of Changitistan will expire in 1680. More to Add...
 * Latvia on the caucasus? and where is Novaya Kamchatka?
 * Sorry, tired me ment lithuania, and novaya kamchatka is in new zealand
 * I thought that the name of this colony was Novaya Skandinavia, or something.
 * China, though dismayed at the loss of the Incan Empire, secretly plans to take control of the Incan Empire when the war against the Aztecs and Mayans are done. Meanwhile, they show genuine concern regarding Russia's planned control of the Ottoman Empire. They ask that Russia sign the Turkish Treaty. This treaty states that Russia will not close Turkish borders in the event of war for the purpose of starving Europe from Asian goods and vice-versa. In Central America, more of the Aztec/Mayan territories are taken.
 * The Hungarian territories on Anatolia grow.Meanwhile, the city of Constantinople is conquered after a long siege, followed by a bloody battle, with heavy casualties on both sides.Meanwhile, the rest of OTL Bulgaria continues to be conquered.with the northern part conquered, small advances are made on Dobruja.the mainland settlement on Canariae Insulae expands 1100 sq km south.Öböl expands 1500 sq km inland.
 * May everyone note that the lack of the flow of goods will cause a reasonable amount of damage to other nations, especially those in the mediterranean, however this could give russia incentive to industrialise however as I said until trade capacity is back up there might as well be a severe depression on. 
 * The people of Venice are in shock at the attack on the arsenal, a collection of buildings which has been the pride of Venice for many centuries. However the Doge views this as an oppurtunity to replace all of the old destroyed buildings within the Arsenal with newer buildings that contain more up to date technology making it more productive than before. The projections for recovery are 3 years bringing it back up to standard supply capacity and then another 5 afterwards to bring it back up to trade capacity and another 2 for production capacity, summing 11 years for total recovery. Luckily in anticipation of such an event the Geonese Arsenal takes over as the primary supply, trade and production facility and is expanded once or twice by investors in Geona and Venice. Meanwhile the Venetians recognise the Scottish regime and offer to have a free trade treaty for 10 years that would allow them to get up to power in their homeland. Venice also gladly accepts the assistance of Naples and sends word that they have managed to neotiate with the rogue general to cease the war to work out a peace treaty, they also note that several ships from Naples attacked the Arsenal and hopes that these are only rogues like the general and not supported by the government. Venice also makes advances against the Ottomans and now declares that a combined Crusader/Venetian force has secured the holy land.
 * France asks Venice to give Jerusalem to the Pope as enclave and protect the wandering to the Holy Lands. The Doge (or his main representative) is now president of the council too, among the Pope, the kings of France and Naples and, if he want, the Tsar (or his ambassador).
 * Jerusalem has already been claimed by Crusaders loyal to a wealthy and powerful noble, Venice cannot cede lands it does no fully control without chances of trouble. In other words I took the Kingdom of Jerusalem to give it to a friend who wants to play as it, DK might know him, LeonidaS is his name and so he will take over and be a zelous knight no doubt.
 * The Pope states that as long as the ruler is a loyal Catholic Christian, he can control the Holy land, although the holy sites themselves and the Churches will be property of the Church. Angelo of Naples states that any Neapolitan pirates were simply pirates, not servants of their government.
 * The Burgundian King, Charles I is dead at age 57. When he died childless, the council has looked at the genealogic tree and corresponds to the title of King of the Burgundians to Robert III of France. The people did not show opposition to act (as both countries are ruled by the Revolutionary Monarchy). Burgundy is under Personal Union with France.
 * Robert III of France and I of the Burgundiand accepts the throne and designates the prince Jacques as Viceroy. Land trade with Sweden and Venice start. Burgundian troops go to Algeria.
 * The Swedish condemn the attack on Venice and continue military expansion. New Scandinavia is expanded by 1250 sqkm.

1676

 * The rest of OTL Bulgaria is conquered, and in June, the Ottomans officially surrender.talks for a peace treaty begin, and the Doge of Venice is invited to make his claims.Öböl expands 1400 sq km,Uruguay expands 650 sq km, connecting Southern and northern settlements.the mainland settlement of Canariae Insulae expands 700 sq km inland.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Morrocco colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese send a message to the Chinese stating that unless the Incans are able to recover from the disorder surrounding them, the Vietnamese will not intervene if the Chinese decide to intervene in their favor. The Vietnamese start expanding their military, as the increasingly hostile theocratic Islamic government of Persia has been attacking Vietnamese shipping as it passes by Persian territory. The Vietnamese start planning an invasion, as they know that the thoroughly Catholic Venice will not intervene in favor of a hostile Islamic nation. The Vietnamese offer to sell Itsaygahi the former Arabic colonies near the Chesapeake in exchange for an alliance. The Vietnamese adjust the California division plans, with the planned Anglo-German section instead falling to their control.
 * In Itsaygahi, a radical political movement called Equaweyvu, the Tsalagi for the Mixxixxippi, rises to prominence. They are proponents of the new Mixxixxippian Empire, and want to establish Itsaygahi as the ultimate power in the whole of the Two Continents.
 * Naples begins making progress against the rebels in Cuba, mostly due to the fact that the anti-imperialist faction has disintegrated due to tribal conflicts although they still are fighting the Venetian/Mamluk faction. With new volunteers from the Papal states, the tide of war is slowly turning in their favor, and they hope that once Venice is able to work out a way to halt the rebel general, they will be able to crush the remaining Mamluks easily. They send word to the other Catholic powers, stating that after they take Algeria they should cease fighting for a time and build up all their militaries for a Grand Crusade to destroy Islam once and for all!
 * Venice continues rebuilding the Arsenal. The Doge sends a map to Hungary concerning the Ottomans surrender and notes that they should leave the rebel nations that the crusaders are attempting to subjigate alone. Venice also starts to challenge the rule of the Anglo-German Commonwealth, talking about the recent riots agianst the commonwealth. In Cuba, after losing mamluk territory in the west, the Venetian/Mamluks make several offensives, One in the west that causes heavy casualties to the new Naplese recruits unfamiliar with the type of war in Cuba and the Veterans however the offensive is not a victory for either side as they both take severe casualties that make the prediction of a Pyrrihc victory a reality, causing the western front to be mainly lost to the tribes and now newly engaged pirates, hoping to profit from the war. The one in the north causes a Venetian/Mamluk loss with several ships being destroyed however gains them a strategical advantage, the one in the east happens to be a full on assualt against Riscaloas colonial capital, This causes huge damage although the attacking force is almost completely destroyed the capital burns for several days. Venice sends word to Naples that at this point the General is ready to negotiate terms but has two last offensives should Naples persue the war next year. Venice also agrees to the crusade proposed by the Naplese and offers Crusaders from the holy lands as the primary warriors in the coming advance.
 * Naples ceases the conflicts, and sends ambassadors, hoping to meet the general and end this violence. They send a message to Venice, offering to negotiate with the Venetians as well.
 * Robert III of France and Burgundy asks to all the countries represented in Orlénas (Naples, Venice, Russia, Sweden, Vietnam, Hungary, Spain) join the crusade called by the Pope. Robert has plans for the post-crusade division of the conquested territory, and hopes that the crusade start soon. Meanwhile, the Burgundian and French armies rearm themselves with new weapon of Algeria. 50% of this territory is considered colony of France, an the other half is Burgundy's. Robert III offers help to the Neapolitans with the Mamluk-Venetian matter, declaring the general as a traitor to Venice and the entire Christiandom.
 * The Pope reminds the French, and all other nations that are involved in the potential Crusade, that they should wait at least a decade, preparing their forces and planning, so that they can take as much of the Muslim lands in one war as they can.
 * The Vietnames promise the Pope that they will aid in the proposed Crusade. However their involvement is to be soley directed towards taking down the rogue Islamist state of Persia, as Persian pirates have been threatening Vietnamese shipping in the area. They cannot garauntee Vietnamese involvement in the war until at least 1691.
 * Hanthawaddy expands its navy should further wars erupt. Katimon expands north at 500 sq km. OTL Guajira expands west 500 sq km. Bi Hloa expands east along the coast 1300 sq km.
 * The Russians Mercilessly attack the Ottomans in the Caucassus. The Russians destroy army after army of ottoman soldiers, reducing them o army with the newly adopted gaugamellan Tactics. The Russians secure the Rest of the Cuacassus And continue to advance, taking Trkish Armenia and Much of th caspian and black sea coasts. Alas, Alexis I never lived to see this great victory, as he died in late January of 1676, leaving the throne to his eldest son, crowned Feodor II, Tsar and Grand Duke of all the Russias and Lithuania, Prince of Warszawa, Ruler of Siberia, the Caucassus and All their Dominions. Feodor founds the Russian Academy of sciences and vows to reform Russia. The Russians act on their own accord, but helping the Crusaders.
 * Joseon expands Kamchatka by 3000 sq km.
 * Sweden continues military expansion and expands Thorlaand by 1250 sqkm.

1677

 * Joseon expands Kamchatka by 3000 sq km.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Morocco colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese continue to expand their military in the light of Persian aggression. The Vietnamese promise that they will give a certain amount of material and military aid to the North African front of the next Crusade, but most of their attention will be dedicated to defeating the xenophobic Islamist Persian Kingdom. The Vietnamese warn, however, that they will not support a war waged to destroy a religion or culture. The aid they give to the Mediterranean front will be cut if the purpose is to solely to destroy the Islamic world.
 * Naples states that many Muslims live upon lands which were once ruled by Christian Rome before it's fall, therefore the land is rightfully Christian. They add that they bear no ill will towards the culture or race of the Muslims, just the religion.
 * As they negotiate to end the war in the Caribbean, Naples builds up the Mediterranean division of their navy, in preparation for the crusade in the future. They plan to have their military prepared for a large-scale war in 10 years, and they hope that their advice will be followed and the other nations will prepare to extinguish Islam as well. They send a message to Vietnam, urging their ally to secure Morocco and ad it as a full-on Vietnamese colony so that they have no threat of it turning against them in the coming war. The Pope reduces the church taxes in the nations that currently are fighting in Algeria, to help them in the war.
 * The king Robert of France and Burgundy congratulates Feodor II for his coronation, and proclaims the previous Tsar as friend of the French (and Burgundians) for the posterity. Haiti expands 2750 sq km (I have five colonies now, counting Algeria, the war is end, I suppose, considering that it begins ten years before). The french propose to Vietnam a project: create a navigation channel between the north of Algeria and the Atlantic coast of the Vietnamese Marocco, it will supply water to the desert lands, and will be a free outlet to the sea to the two states. They will not start the construction until receive a response.
 * The Treaty of Constantinople is signed.By the terms of the treaty, The Ottoman Empire loses all territory on Europe, and there, part of the territory will be split between the Hungary, the Greek state, the Kingdom of Bulgaria and the Duchy of Dobruja.The Aegean and Ionian Sea islands will be given to Venice, along with the majority of Crete.Candia and its surroundings will be given to Greece.the Ottomans also will lose their Mediterranean coast, which will be divided between Greece and the Crusader States ; Principality of Amernian Cilicia, County of Edessa, Principality of Antioch, County of Tripoli and the Kingdom of Jerusalem.The black sea Coast also will be divided, between Greece and the newly-created state of Georgia.Their Caspian Sea coast will be given to the newly-created states of Astrakhan, Dagestan and Shirvan.other states are also formed; Karabagh, Azerbijan, Shahrzur, Kurdistan, and Assyria.Since the Ottomans lost their coastline, their colonies are given to: Hanthawaddy (Diu and Aden colonies), Itsaygahi (Florida) and Hungary (OTL Sri Lanka). Despite the signing of the treaty, all the changes will not come into effect until 1679, approximately.Öböl expands 2500 sq km towards the littoral, and the mainland settlement of Canariae Insulae expands 250 sq km south.
 * Itsaygahi is declared the successor of the Mixxixxippian Empire of old. There are calls to change the name to reflect this, but the Tsalagan-Seminole elite are unwilling to do that much. Expansion continues into Florida. A message is sent to Naples telling them that though Itsaygahi is a nation that follows the teachings of the Koran, they mean no harm to Christianity. Are they not brothers? Elsewhere, the Natchez continue their expansion north, reaching the meeting point of the Mixxixxippi and Ohayo Rivers. Natchez trading boats begin trade with the Haudenosaunee. King Chanrak shows an interest in the north, and particularly in building up a powerful Haudenosaunee part of Itsaygahi, to strengthen Tsalagan languages in the nation.
 * The Neapolitans stat that the Itsaygahi live on land which was never Christian, so they have no reason to go to war, as long as the Itsaygahi allow Christian missionaries into their land (which it appears they do, as they do have a Christian minority in their land)
 * Where is the Ohayo Rver?
 * I presume that the Ohayo River is a more "Native American" name for the Ohio River.
 * Mon colonists launch another invasion of Kulin. This time, the local governor gives pleas to Hungary and Russia to provide aid in ending the last native Australian state. Daung Warrung also joins Hanthawaddy on the promise that Daung Warrung become a special division known as Daongbarong. In addition, Hanthawaddy settles OTL Kangaroo Island, calling it Koh Kangguru, on the northern extremity.", at 100 sq km. Katimon expands north 800 sq km. Bi Hloa expands east by 2000 sq km. Hanthawaddy annexes the Aden and Diu colonies of the Ottoman Empire, as part of the agreement.
 * Venice continues to rebuild the Arsenal. (Sorry haven't spent time on this today was trying to get Radioactive Tides up and running)
 * Can I assume that the treaty with Venice was successful? -LurkerLordB
 * yes.
 * Russia Sends more waves into ottoman territory, annexing most of the north and south Caucassus as they go along. Abkhazia is annexed for Russia. The Russians sign the treaty of Tiblisi with the past ottoman emperor, giving all the territory of the Caucassus to Russia and incorperating the rest of the new states into the russian sphere of influence.
 * Sweden expands its military. Thorlaand is expanded by 1250 sqkm.

1678

 * Joseon expands Kamchatka by 1500 sq km, and the Oregon colony is expanded by 1000 sq km, and the Colombian one by 500 sq km. (Sorry for bad posting last several years)
 * The Vietnamese expand their Morrocco colony 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese conduct a search of Morrocco's northern ports for pirates. They continue their canpaign of military expansion, with a large fleet of iron-plated vessels being constructed for the blockade of Persia in preperation for the future war. The Vietnamese agree to the construction of the navigation canal, but only after both France and Vietnam have finished their wars.
 * China resupplies their overseas military. More and more enclaves of resistance are captured. Meanwhile, the bar shot and chain shot become standard issue on Chinese warships, though most of them already carried it.
 * With the situtation in Ricasolia worked out, the Neapolitans move the few settlers they had on their Bahamas colony to the conquered Mamluk Colony, to populate it more to bring it under control of Naples better. Unfortunately, the further inland parts have reverted to tribal wilderness. Naples decides to concentrate on connecting the two halves of Ricasolia before they move further inland, so they extend the eastern part by 400 square miles along the north coast. Meanwhile, they prepare their Mediterranean navy for the coming Crusade. Unfortunately, Naples is having religious problems within itself. Many of the Schmittist ideals, which combined Buddhism, Daoism, and Christianity, are revived in Naples due to the increased contact with the east. Attempts to squash this religious rebellion results in many of the Schmittists fleeing Naples and the Papal states to North Italy, France, Germany, and the rest of Europe. Check Principia Moderni 1450-1479 for the details on how this movement began. I was thinking we needed more religious diversity in Europe, due to no Protestant Reformation being mentioned
 * Does Eastern Asian Christianity count as Protestantism?
 * I think Protestantism has to form in Protest of the Catholics, the East Asian would count as Oriental Christianity. Plus, it never really grew in Europe except Vietnam's French colony.
 * Öböl expands 2500 sq km inland, towards the south littoral, on its southernmost part.Afrika expands 250 sq km.Meanwhile, a Greek state is formed as a vassal of Hungary.Provisionally, the control of the greek state is given to Andrew IV.Hungary accepts the Hanthawaddian offer, but it only can send a part of its navy, since the army still needs to rebuilt.
 * A young man, Mahmoud Ehkanag, is arrested in Equagadahu for printing copies of the Koran translated into Tsalagi. A split begins in Itsaygahi with the more established Islam in the Middle East.
 * Robert III undervalues, for now, the Schmittist new movement, and says that all the branches of the Christianity are accepted for him. Haiti is expanded 2750 sq km.
 * They aren't truly Christian, more like Daoist/Shinto/Buddhist combo with some Judo-Christian values and traditions
 * ​Sweden expands its military. Hodlaand is expanded by 1250 sqkm. Danish representatives in the Swedish parliment call for the annexation of Northern Germany and Jutland which are now very loosely controlled by Anglo-Germany which is falling into civil disorder. Sweden instead turns its attention to Estonia and the last remining stronghold of Doitsuchou, however Jutland is also on the table.
 * Russians celebrate their victory in the war against the ottomns. their victory gaining them the Beitifull(mabe mineralful-to them at the time) Caucassus Mountians.

1679

 * Öböl expands 1400 sq km towards the littoral on its southernmost part, and újfundlandi expands 1400 sq km towards its southwestern settlement, Uruguay expands 400 sq km and India expands 600 sq km on its newly-acquired settlement off the coast of Jaffna.
 * Sweden continues military expansion. Hodlaand is expanded by 1250 sqkm. Swedish diplomats continue convincing Oldenburg, Jutland, Doitsuchou and Estonia to join the Swedish Empire. So far only Doitsuchou and Oldenburg have agreed and annexation is planned for 1685 with the first territory being reorganised and extracted from civil disorder. Jutlandic officals have also expressed lots of interest in the offer. Sweden pours funding into those territories.
 * Russia signs a protection treaty with Estland(Estonia), ensuring it protection in all forms, in exchange for full subordonance. Russian Soldiers are victorious. more expiditions are finaly sent along the River Lena. Russia improves upon their mistakes in the Ottoman war. Changitistan cries more and more for full autonomy, at least the west anyway. their vassalage agreement expires in 1680.
 * China eliminates more pockets of resistance in Mayan and Aztec lands. Meanwhile, a Chinchilla infestation of southeastern China, due to stowaways on warships returning from the old Incan colony, is taken advantage of. While used as a plentiful food source, some people also keep them as pets.
 * Note: I do not endorse the consumption of Chinchillas.
 * Naples expands their military by a large amount, repairing their shattered forces after the horrible Ricasolian war. Meanwhile, they expand eastern Ricasolia 400 square miles towards the western half along the northern coast. They have managed to secure control over the colony, forcing many Mamluks to convert to Christianity, and enslaving those who refused to convert. However, in Naples itself ther problem with the Schmittists grows, as many new converts join the new religion. They banish even more to France, Anglo-Germany, and other nations that will accept them, although the Pope fears that more people will convert to the religion in the rest of Europe.
 * The king Robert of France and Burgundy sends a letter to the Pope, in the letter he says that, to protect the Christiandom, the council in Orléans must be declared ecumenical, and all the priests can find a solution for this problem. Haiti expands 2750 sq km.
 * The Pope declares the council to be ecumenical, as its purpose was to defend the Christian world from the Muslim threat
 * Hanthawaddy continues its invasion of the Kulin alliance. King Jayadeva dies during the year, and he is succeeded by his nephew Suryamala. Meanwhile, Toeh Ngoa Nyoing's OTL Murmansk settlement expands east by 500 sq km. Bi Hloa expands east by 1600 sq km, and the northern settlement of Katimon expands north 500 sq km. Bi Hloa remains an important strategic stopping point before routes to Katimon, OTL New Zealand, and the Pacific.
 * Russsia sends a division of their finest trained Cossacks to aid Gandavada(Russian name forHanthawaddy) to aid in defeating Kulin
 * I'm curious to the etymology of Gandavada.
 * In Russian, when you have a name with H(or latin Hs in general) its pronounces as a G(Ex. Honduras becomes Gonduras). th sounds like d and other minor things in Russian language phonetics makes dia sound better and the y sound got corrupted over time(naturaly), so, Gandavada! Im an ethnic Russian. Thats how I know.
 * Interestingly enough I think that might mean "Dual Teaching" in Sanskrit so that's why I wondered.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Morocco colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese allow the Schmittists to use Furansuchou as a refuge from the religious intolerance of their homelands. They allow the Schmittists to freely worship their faith, and the first Schmittist temple is built in Rochefort. Many wealthy Vietnamese merchants start secrety funding Schmittist missionary activity throughout western Europe. The Vietnamese continue their campaign of military expansion, reactivating the resources left on standby when the plans for the invasion of Ireland were scrapped due to Venetian interferrance.

1680

 * Öböl expands 1650 km south.Meanwhile, Andrew issues a decree leaving the Uruguay colony under Greek administration.Although, since he is king of both countries, at the time, this will not make much of a difference for now.Újfundlandi és a Labrador's central part expands 2000 sq km, connecting with the southwestern settlement.
 * Jutlandic officals agree to full annexation by Sweden in 1685 along with Oldenburg, Doitsuchou and Livonia. Estonia is heavily persuaded to join and at the end of the year; the military ruler of Estonia finally agrees along with a significant bribe and seat in Sweden's parliment to push him into the right decision. He rescindes the treaty with Russia and signs a similar one with Sweden. Sweden continues developing its military and Asgard expands by 1250 sqkm.
 * Russia conquered courland or Livonia (whatever you want to call it) years ago! You can't annex something I own. And Lithuania conquered Mazovia at about the same times Livonia, so why is it sweeden on the map? Russia feels threatened by swedish presence in the Baltics. now that I think of it, that can be a reason for a great northern war... Or a bitter rivalry for the Baltics...or something else of the manner.-Lx
 * Well, for starting, it is not Mazovia.is Prussia.Mazovia was in a southernmost position than Prussia.so, Poland annexed Prussia, Prussia revolted, Sweden annexed Prussia in trade for support in the Hungarian civil war.
 * the Mazovia was a sidenote, my main poin is that I feel threatened by sweetish estland and that sweeden can't annex Livonia as I already own it... People sem to forget to put it on the Map...
 * ive checked all the past posts and Livonia or Courland or whatever it is, has not been conquered by Russia or Lithuania. Same goes for Prussia which Sweden gained from Poland due to helping in the civil war.
 * check the Russia post of 1623: The Russians expand Novorossiya by 2000km. The Tsar gives naval help to the anglogermans and Lithuania declares war on Livonia and Mazovia, nearly crushing the 2 small states. They are occupied within 6 months and are annexed by the end of the year. The Russian Army(not the same as lithuania) continues expanding into siberia. It might have been too soon but lets just say the war lasted 2 years or something wiht lithuania and no russia assistance. So...Livonia and Mazovia are mine.
 * Thanks for reminding me of this algorythm.
 * Alright, the algorythm is on the talk page.
 * See, you never took those two territories and attacking Mazovia would be the equivlent of declaring war on Poland which owned it at the time.
 * France-Burgundy offers help to Venice and Hungary if they want conquest the last remanent of the Ottoman Empire. Also Cote d'Ivoire is expanded to Guinée 2750 sq km. The king Robert invites the Tsar to come to Orléans himself, because the Schmittism is a menace for all the christiany branches.
 * Already conquered I just forgot to put it onto the map after it was posted, its devided like shown on the talk page.
 * Corrected
 * Is not my intention to wipe the Ottoman Empire, the initial was just take them out from Europe, but when we got more territory than intended, we just took it.At this point, the war already ended.
 * I said if you want. At least, my intention is not defeat the empire, not now.
 * Not now. but Greece would have to conquer it, and even then i'm still in doubt if i should take that just for the sake of completing the Galatian and Phrygian themes or let it existing.
 * Shouldn' the Ottoman empire be dark grey? The user has been gone for a while, and the green only confuses it with Venice
 * Ask this to DK.
 * By the next map. But the color should be more grayish. I use a formula for determining the color of independent nations.
 * The Mayans officially surrender at the Second Battle of Tikal. Tikal, which had been captured by the Chinese before, was left abandoned, letting the Mayans reclaim the lost city. When the Mayan king, who had been in hiding, was discovered, he was left with a choice: let his people go to the Chinese and those who go peacefully won't suffer, including him, or he will die and China will not be very merciful. He chooses the first option. Three months after the surrender, he disappears into self-imposed exile, never to be officially seen or heard from again. Meanwhile, more pockets of resistance in the Aztec lands are captured. Due to the victory in Mayab, the Chinese are able to make considerable progress against the Aztecs this year.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Morocco colony by 28*50 sq km. The Vietnamese continue on their campaign of military expansion. The Nipponese begin welcoming increasing amounts of Schmittist missionaries into their territory, as the Schmittist doctrine was based in part on traditional Japanese Shinto beliefs. As such most Nipponese citizens do not believe it to be a huge leap to convert to Schmittism.
 * Naples continues to build up their navy, as they begin to work on making an arsenal similar to the Venetian version. They also work on building up defenses of the northern border of the Papal states, not out of any direct fear of Venice, but simply because it is their only land border. The problem with the Second Schmittist Reformation continues, for the Schmittists have been in hiding, growing for so long, it is hard to get rid of them. Ricasolia expands another 400 square miles along the northern shore to the recently conquered Mamluk territories.
 * Be careful there the arsenal took around 400 years to get upto what it is now and the only reason it is rebuildable is because there is so much of it and because Venice is practically a city of craftsmen but go ahead just be plausable.
 * With the technology improved, and with a model already existing in Venice (plus a colony with many resources) it should beeasier to create an arsenal. It will take a while, and will be much smaller than the Venetian one.

1681

 * Andrew IV leaves the throne of Greece to his older son, Szilárd, to focus on Hungary.Szilárd is crowned in the middle of the year as Constantine XII Corvin.Meanwhile, the Greek kingdom is subdivided into 16 "themes", inspired on the territorial subdivisions of the former Byzantine Empire, with some of them sharing names with their Byzantine counterparts.and those are subdivided into 69 "bandon", the basic territorial and administrative unit.Meanwhile, even though Uruguay is administrated by Greece, it is populated more by Croatian settlers.due to this, Szilárd resolves to not send colonists to Uruguay, to avoid possible tensions between Greeks and Croatians.Uruguay expands 750 sq km inland.Meanwhile, at Öböl, a ship with settlers to Öböl lands not far from its southern border, in OTL Rio de Janeiro.a new settlement as part of Öböl is estabilished there, and named Január folyó, as the bay in which the settlement was near was known.Újfundlandi és a Labrador expands 1800 sq km, 1550 on the OTL Smalwood Reservoir settlement, towards the littoral, and the other 250 on the island of Újfundlandi.
 * Robert III of France and Burgundy creates the People's Assemblies, to give more represenation in the government to the people. Also he creates five ministries: War, Diplomacy, Economy, Religion and Justice. The five ministers would form the Regency Council if it is necessary. The french army is divaded in three branches: Earth, Sea and City (Police, firemans, etc...) (Army developing). Come to the king a traduction in french of the Koran: he starts to read it.
 * Naples briefly cuts down on the amount of persecution of the Schmittists, focusing the resources used to try and hunt them down on building up the military. They focus primarily on the continued construction of the Neapolitan Arsernal, which will be developed over the course of several years and will be like a smaller version of the Venetian one.
 * Diplomats work throughout the year to bring the level of development in Oldenburg, Doitsuchou, Jutland, Estonia and Linovia to Sweden standards in preparation for annexing in 1685. Queen Christina welcomes the leaders of these nations in a meeting in Malmo and soothes their fears and and misconceptions of Swedish rule. The Swedish military is upgraded and expanded and Thorlaand is expanded by 1250 sqkm.
 * Ehhh sorry but I can't have everyone making their own arsenals. Sorry, but you will have to wait for your turn to industrialize. Maybe if you made it a large market I would allow it. -DK
 * Then you really ought to scold Kunarian, who already made two arsernals
 * Already made two arsenals? look on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Arsenal and tell me again that I should be scolded for using something that was there and nobody touched to boost my nation, can I help it if I have an industrial complex already? nope, and I will not pretend it got destroyed or something because with my navy, artisans and with some plausibility, its practically impossible and I will expand and build more because if Venetians had done what I did, they would have done the same too.
 * I am not the one with problems with Arsenals, it is DK who has just outlawed making them prior to industrialization. If Venice has one, then couldn't other nations with equal resources make their own in imitation of Venice's? It makes sense that such a thing would happen, especially due to recent tensions Naples had with Venice that they would attempt to up their military to be similar to the Venetian one. The Neapolitan Arsenal would still be smaller than the Genoan one probably, and they would still have a smaller military force then the older, stronger nations like China or Vietnam. I just thought it would be more interesting than posting just "Naples expands their military".
 * Normally I'd agree with DK on this sort of thing, but if you can find legit historical backing (seems like you have), I'd have no problem with it.
 * Russia owns Livonia, you cant annex it without Russia's say so, and Russia says no.
 * The Vietnamese expand their Morocco colony by 28*50 sq km. This marks the final colonial expansion before the end of the Persian War. The Vietnamese begin ramping up military expansion to prepare for the coming war.
 * Feodor introduces the Rusian Court to more european languages, and makes a qualificationb that in order to be a royal advisor (boyar) one had to speak at least one other European Language(or Latin-as all europe speaks it) and one East Asian Language. Canada expands 2000km and the militry tactics are improved on.Expansion in siberia via the River Lena continues. Russia warns Sweden than any annexations in the Baltics would be a direct threat to Russia and her people. Russian Diplomats go to Estland and Try to convince them to join back into treaty with Russia and keep their sovereignty, even if the grass looks a bit greener on the other side, Russinan Riches burn brighter than those of Scnadinavia and are more free than the peninsula. The Tsar officialy declares Lithuania a Secular State, and declares that Religion is free in all grand duchies and colonies, but will be "taxed" 1% of production in Central Russia if you are not Orthodox
 * Colonists from Hanthawaddy take over Kulin completely. Koh Kangguru expands west 300 sq km, Bi Hloa expands east 2000 sq km. Katimon's northern settlement expands north by 300 sq km.
 * Now, in which direction you mean east?, because on the last map you expanded southwest.not east.

1682

 * Naples: Due to problems with funding and organizing the massive amount of resources required to build an arsenal, even one smaller than the Genoan one, has resulted in production stopping. Naples still possesses a much stronger military from the effort. They work to increase recruitment and training in the army, and lower taxes on gunmakers in order to increase the production of weapons. If they cannot have an arsenal, they will expand their military in different ways.
 * France ask Venice to seld to it weapons and mercenaries, to improve the armies of France and Burgundy.
 * Former Mayab is calmed down. Rebuilding efforts are under way. In October, master architect Hu Shai Long is hired by the emperor to rebuild the former Mayan cities and fashion them with Mayan culture. He works with Mayans, planning to mix Mayan and Chinese culture in the new colony so the people will still feel at home and less likely to rebel. Meanwhile, military support is given to the troops stationed in Aztec lands.
 * Sweden continues to prepare for the annexation of Estonia, Livonia, Oldenburg, Jutland and Doitsuchou. Several secret agreements are signed between Sweden and the nations and the result is a pulled forward deadline of 1683. Sweden continues military expansion and sends materials from the Hudson colonies to Central America to help the Chinese rebuilding efforts. New Scandinavia is expanded by 1250sqkm.