Axis vs Allies Revised (Map Game)

Welcome, everyone. I am PitaKang, and I am the creator of this map game. As you can see, the game’s name is Axis vs Allies Revised, as that the first one failed miserably after about 30 turns. I hope this lasts much longer than the other one, and that it is much more plausible. Currently, at 8/19/2011, there are only about 2 or 3 map games currently active. I am not exactly sure, as I just came back to this site about 4 days ago. Anyhow, I’d like this to be a very enjoyable map game, and a plausible one. Have fun!

Rules
1. We are going to limit the nations count to 1, as that when a person gets two countries, they usually neglect the other one.

2. The Golden Rule: Treat others as you want to be treated. . . IS NOT IT! But you must be plausible.

3. Nuclear programs may start in 1940. We will use Random.org to determine who starts it first and who gets it. Also, it will take at least 4 years to develop nukes if you are one of the “Big Cheese”. (US, Germany, Soviets)

4. 1 year per day, half years.

5. Make a profile on the Diplomacy Page

6. You can be an occupied nation and declare independence.

7. We will have resolutions/stuff when the UN is created at United Nations Page

8. For now, I am the mapmaker. (Notice how I said NOW)

9. New turns start at 00:00:01 UTC.

10. We go by half-years.

Mods
Moderators are people who can: Cause political and natural unrest. EX: An unknown group of people set fire to the Reichstag, or, A giant Hurricane strikes Florida. Basically, the players should respond to the mods posts. They will be underlined and not bulleted. You can also challenge implausiblilites, take votes to revoke some posts, and in very rare cases, you can actually kick people out! An (Approved) means you're approved! Please sign with only 3 tildes, like this: PitaKang

Things Mods can do: Note: Don't be implausible/biased or I'll kick you off!
 * Make natural/artifical disasters
 * Call for implausibility votes, where players vote whether people are being implausible. Someone please show me how to make a voting chart thing.
 * Kick people off if they're being bad
 * Ban people


 * (Approved) Fed (talk)
 * (Approved) Collie Kaltenbrunner
 * (Approved) Azecreth
 * (Approved) Detectivekenny (Mapmaker-in-chief)
 * (Approved) CrimsonAssassin
 * (Unapproved due to implausibility) Remedello

Nations
We will start on Monday, 8/22, 2011
 * Germany:Collie Kaltenbrunner
 * United States- Flag_of_South_Korea.pngang- (Talk | Contribs) 21:09, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Soviet Russia: Azecreth
 * Canada: ChrisL123
 * Trucial States:Revisionist 00:35, August 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Italy: Fed (talk)
 * Japan: Bobalugee1940 01:02, August 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Turkey: StarkBlack 22:58, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sudan (Domain of Great Britain): BlackSkyEmpire 00:52, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Cuba: CrimsonAssassin
 * Great Britain: DeanSims 20:19, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ethiopia: Tim
 * The Baltic States(Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania): Laptop Zombie.
 * Thailand 9 もりや すわこ
 * Venezuela Oxfordshire 1972 18:04, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Finland: LxCaucassus 23:11, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hindustan/Bharat (India): Imperium Guy 09:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * China: Scandinator 09:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Poland: Leninist 11:19, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

1933.6

 * United States: Construction of the Golden Gate Bridge continues in San Fransisco Bay, with a goal of being the largest bridge in the world. Also, Albert Einstein arrives in the United States.
 * Great Britain: The British offer Germany an alliance in hopes of keeping the peace between the two nations. Hitler is invited to a Ball in Buckingham Pallace to celebrate the Anglo-German Alliance if Germany accepts. 50,000 British troops are sent to Sudan.
 * The Cuban President is shot down. The new one is a highly authoritarian president. Despite this, Cuba plans to open up deals with the US regarding automobile importation.
 * Ethiopia: In hopes of modernizing there military Ethiopia invites European and American mercenaries to train there troops.
 * Sudan: The city of Khartoum, capital of the region for both Sudanese and Englishmen, is raided by Revolutionaries. The objective of the rebels becomes obvious as to drive out Great Britian out and establish a independent nation. Many of the locals and foriegners fear that they plan to raze surrounding countrysides and destroy personel property, unfourtantly the local goverment does little other then adding more security to Millitary camps.
 * The Soviet Union finishes their work on the first 5-year plan. Worried about the possibilty of a British-German alliance, they begin a slight military expansion. They also ask the USA to open diplomatic relations with them.

1934

 * The United States strongly discourages the UK-German alliance, and also begins to take in more Jews fleeing from Germany.
 * To improve the economic situation Ethiopia sends a joint trade deal to the USA and UK. The Ethiopian military continues to grow.
 * Seeing the threats, the Baltic states joined with the other Eastern European countries(Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, Hungary and Albania) to form the Eastern Europe Treaty Organization(EETO), and sign treaties with Germany, Italy and Greece to get protections.
 * First of all, what threats are there to band against? German rearmament didn't start until 1935 in OTL, and the Soviets were more busy with industrialization at the time. Plus I seriously doubt that all those nations would agree to some sort of military alliance. Azecreth 15:17, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, east europe was still recovering from all wars and was industrialisingLxCaucassus 23:29, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * The band was for protecting against the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. As you see in real, they signed the Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact and divided the whole east. And also the Baltic Entente was signed on September 12, 1934 at Geneva. Wikipedia: "The Baltic Entente was based on Treaty of Understanding and Collaboration[1] signed between Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia on September 12, 1934 in Geneva. The main objective of the agreement was joint action in foreign policy. It also included mutual commitments to support each other politically, and to give diplomatic support in international communication. The endeavour was ultimately unsuccessful - the combined strength of the three nations and statements of neutrality were insubstantial in the face of the massive armies of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The plans for division of control of European lands located between the two superpowers laid out in the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact assigned the Baltic countries into Soviet "sphere of influence". As a result, in 1940 all three countries were indeed occupied by and annexed into the Soviet Union." So that's why eastern europe was just in danger from Nazis and Soviets, and so only Baltics cannot defend against them.Laptop Zombie 03:09, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * The fascist 'party' in Cuba expands. Meanwhile, a Soviet traveller introduces Communism.
 * Great Britain: The 50,000 troops land in Sudan and occupy Khartoum as well as other parts of the colony, an all out war begins against the Sudanese rebels, with only soldiers being killed, civillians are not harmed and moved to safer areas. 35,000 more troops are sent to Sudan. Great Britain offers the Rebels independance negotiations, hoping to avoid future bloodshed. The Ethiopian trade deal is accepted while an alliance is offered to Ethiopia.
 * Stalin, taking advantage of the murder of Sergei Kirov, uses it to expel some 400,000 people from the Communist Party, securing his power. The Soviet Union begins working on a heavy tank to replace the T-35.
 * An army coup took place in Venezuela, a army General takes over with the aim of becoming a local and regonal strong man.
 * The Finnish parliment proposes the reconstruction plan to modernize the military, industrialisation, and technology.

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1934.6
''' The Austrian government falls in the Austrian Civil War as the army refuses to shell the Karl-Marx-Hof, an act that would have endangered the lives of thousands of civilians. They then turn against the government, resulting in the fall of the Dolfuss's government. The Social Democratic Party of Austria takes control of the nation. '''
 * Great Britain; The 35,000 troops land in Sudan, with the British forces beggining to occupy the last bits of rebel contolled territory after several small but bloody battles. The rebels are once again offered peace negotiations.


 * Thailand: Thailand builds up their military. They also ask for an alliance with Japan.
 * Venezuela: Venezuela enters the world game. The millitary regeme said they have no gripes, but wished to enhance the coutry's standing in the world. Venezuela starts making an offer of restarting pre-Great Depression oil exports to Canada and the USA. The Venezuela General-come-president flies to Washington DC and Toronto to start talks with the leaders of the nations. Some press reports also mention claimes of a minor arms deal was also on the cards. The treaties were only speculative. None of the nations were really up to it, since their economies were still badly depressed.
 * Ethiopia: Continues there military overhaul and agree to the British alliance they also send a deal to Britian to buy Somaliland and help them in Sudan
 * Italy: Italy begins a technological and industrial overhaul, employing several scientists (such as Enrico Fermi) in science and industrial plans. Vittorio Emmanuele III is killed in a car accident, and his son Umberto II ascends to the throne. He immediatly takes some precautions against Benito Mussolini, gaining more power with the re-establishment of a democratic parliament. In the elections, the Social Liberal party gains the upper hand.
 * Soviet Union: Stalin initiates the Second 5-Year Plan, which focuses on heavy industry. He also applauds the action of the Austrian people to resist the rise of fascism.
 * The United States negotiates with the Venezuelan government on oil, asking for information such as terms, and of such. Also, the United States begins some research into Einstein’s theory, curious to see if it could be used as a weapon.
 * The Fascist and Communist 'parties' gain power in Cuba.
 * Finland begins initiating the reconstruction plan for a complete technological, industrial and military overhaul to reconstruct military tactics, structures and industrial buildings. the main goal is for Finland to gain Great power status, although the notion seems far-fetched, it is a motivational subject for Finns. The Finnish governement hopes to gain good relations with the US and also take interest is einstein, but put the subject aside as reconstruction is the most important thing, although the Finnish scientists gain some interest in e=mc2 and begin to study it, but only slightly.
 * Sudan: Many people rejoice the destruction of the oppressive rebel, although many towns have been razed or pillaged and hundreds have lost there homes. Many crops and farms also have been damaged by the raids conducted by the rebels. Fourtantly, because of the British intervention many members of the resistance decide to immigrate else where to avoid charges leaving the orginization to crumble. The actions of the conflict, however leave only more tension between Christian majority to the south and Islamic majority to the North.
 * Baltics: The Baltic states builds up the military, and together with Finland and Poland, they prepare for an attack against Russia in Staliningrad.

1935
The Saar Basin votes to rejoin Germany after a plebiscite which recieves a 90% affirmative vote. '''*If you look on the Recent Wiki Activity button, we are the highest with 15. . .:)- Pita'''
 * The Finnish Governement continues to implement the reconstruction plan. The military is looking into reaserch to improve BT-7 Tank. The Finns propose an economic and military alliance with sweeden and norway, wich is accepted only by sweeden. the Finns are now one small but significant step closer to forming the Scandinavian Community. Finland asks the USA for alliance. The scientists continue toyng with the e=mc2 idea but with no significant gains.
 * You can’t control Sweden and Norway. That is rather implausible, as in WW2, the Finnish were not really friends with the Swedes or Norway. And Norway never enters an alliance anyways. -Pita
 * Actually Finland was VERY friendly with Sweden at the time (The Swedes sent aid to the Finns in the Winter War), but besides that, you're right. ~Fed 
 * The Scandinavian Community is a goal not a reality. all it is now is an alliance.- we can Use Random.org to do the alliance with norway. Yes: 1-25;50-75. No: 26-49; 76-100. Otherwise i dont know how I can actualy make an alliance.
 * I did the number it was 76- so norway dosnt accept alliance. i will fix the rest.
 * The United States continues research on a weapon to be produced with Einstein’s proposal, however funding is very little and almost nothing is done on time. Meanwhile, they propose to Enrico Fermi to come work in the United States.
 * Enrico Fermi declines, as the government-backed anti-semitism that put his wife in danger is gone. Italy also continues to improve it's industrial and technological potential. It also begins claiming Dalmatia from Yugoslavia.
 * The Japanese begin to build up their military with conscription of able bodied males from the ages of 17-20. The Japanese also begin building up their infastructure to begin mass producing weapons. They also begin to create the 空母部隊 (Aircraft Carrier Battalion) of seven ship with plans to expand the size. The A6M Zero begins production in Japan.
 * sorry for not joining imeadiatley I didn't know it started.
 * Soviet Union: Industrialization continues under the 5 Year Plan. The Soviets begin reorganization of their tank forces into a full armored role, to support their "Deep Penetration" doctrine.
 * Ethiopia: A small baby boom occurs after a string of good growing seasons and there military begins to look more and more European.
 * Venezuela faces a rebellion by counter revolutionary forces in its cities. The army’s attention turns inwards and focuses on national stability. Oil went off the agenda for the time being. The rebellion was quashed after 2 months. The El Distrito Metropolitano de Caracas and Ciudad Bolívar were to remain under martial law for another year. Telegrams were sent to the American and Colombian presidents confirming that the rebellion had been terminated.
 * For the content of Venezuela's '1935 telegrams' and the pending oil deal with the USA see the Diplomacy Page.
 * Estonia ask Finland for attack Staliningrad, while Latvia and Lithuania attack Minsk. At the same time, they ask for help from Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Germany
 * Thailand: Thailand starts to build some ships. They begin plans of invading French Indochina.

1935.6
 It also offers the USA a relaunced oil deal.
 * Germany builds up its military.
 * Venezuela: Venezuela declares its neutrality outside of the Americas and Australasia. An urban pepole's literacy campaign is also launched. A interim free trade deal is offered to Colombia and Nicaragua.

"The USA are to be given cut price Venezuelan oil for a fixed period of 5 years subject to renewl thire after in exchange for the USA giving Venezuela several hundred rifles and pistols, plus the odd tank and/or modern armoured car."

For the full text, see the diplomacy page. '''Out of pure interest, why are you including Australasia, since you aren't even on the Pacific Ocean? '''

According to the map Austrailia belongs to Brittain-so what I dont understand is why india, parts of africa etc.., arent coulored

'''I'm not takeing Australia of the UK. I sent ships through the Panama canal to the Pasific. It could be a new market if/when Europe implodes.'''
 * Thailand: Thailand continues to build up their military.
 * Soviet Union: The Soviet Union, reacting to the Baltic invasion, deploys a five hundred thousand man army to crush the Baltic States. Using their "Deep Penetration" Doctrine, they smash the Baltic army headed towards Minsk, and begin driving down the coast towards Tallinn, and up the southern border towards Vilnius. They tell Germany to not intervene, since they were attacked first. Funds are given to the Cuban Communist Party.
 * Cuba amps up its military. The Communist Party and Fascist Party expands. They offer to buy Haiti from France.
 * Venezuela: A friendly telegram is sent to Cuba with an offer of Venezuela oil for Cuban arms and an alliance. Venezuela expresses its need to develop and fears of being dragged in to a conflict involving an increasingly unstable Europe. The urban pepole's literacy campaign is a sucsess. Litracy rates are up from 35% to 45% of men and from 10% to 15% of women.
 * Finland disagrees to help the Baltics due to the fact that they are currently reorgonizing and overhauling their military. The Finnish generals take interest in Alexander the Great`s tactics at gaugamella. The Foundations of new housings are improved. The Reconstruction plan is in full swing. The Finnish governement gives a 20% tax cut for every buisness that accepts 1000+ new employees as an attempt to decrease unemployement. The finnish governement introduce a minimum wage of the equivalent of 15$(pre-1929 US dollar) A week as to prompt more buying and competativeness in the market
 * Japan continues to build it infastructure and its army. Propagada is released in Manchuria and Korea to help calm anti-japanese sentiment. The Japanese Army takes control of military factories and over-see the construction of fighter aircraft and bomber aircraft, light and heavy artillery along with rifles and ammunition. The Japanese begin planing the A6M Zero and Type 96 Shashu tank after determining they needed a general purpose tank that could fight other tanks.
 * Italy continues to improve in the industrial and technological areas. Italy also begins to improve it's military forces.
 * The United States agrees to the Venezuelan deal, and also begins to amp up their military due to the situation in Europe being dangerously out of balance due to the foolish Baltic invasion of the Soviets, which was doomed to failure and probable destruction of the Baltic states
 * Ethiopia begins to add a small number of tanks and planes to there military arsenal and sees the economic need for a ocean side port.
 * Baltic states repeat asking for alliance from Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Germany, as well as send asks for UK and US alliances.

1936
'''**I know, but I probably won’t be on this site all tomorrow and in 1 hour, so I just decided to start it. . . -Pita'''
 * The United States continues to amp up their military, while continuing to research Einstein’s theory of relativity, but even now, few funds are put into it. Also, FDR and Alf Landon begin campaigning for the November elections. However, it is estimated to be a landslide victory for the Democrats.
 * Just saying it is only around 23:00 UTC I know because i know that 8 pm easten time is 00:00 UTC and it is around 7:00pm ET-Lx
 * Violence between the Communist/Fascist parties in Cuba erupts. Cuba accepts Venezuela's alliance.
 * With its military completely overhauled Finnish troops invade the Baltic states. the Finnish governement sends out messages through diplomatic cables to the US and Sweeden stating that this act is only to protect the civil liberties of the Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian peoples, and to prevent the spread of Stalinism and the total obliteration of the free Baltic world- a quote from the cable message: "If the Finnish army had not done so, it would have meant an utter end to the baltic states, this invasion is in fact an inderedt way of fighting the Soviet Union, by preventing it to capture more land. If it had not been done, the Baltic Peoples would have suffered oppression, russification(as the Finns did during the time of Imperial Russia) and forceful conversion to communism. This invasion is a way to protect democracy and civil right and freedoms of the Baltic Peoples.This is our way to prevent a triple war and save the Baltic State's sovereignty.The Finish state promise the occupied teritories full independance referendum 1 year after the end of the war (to not invoke soviet invasion once again)" The Finnish military scientists continue thinking about how einstein's theories can be used as a weapon. The Finnish army also tells the reason to Baltic Republic citizens. Some of the villages graciously accept the finnish "libarators" but others-not so much. May add more later...
 * the Japanese finish designing the Type 96 and the A6M Zero. The Type 96 has a 40mm rifled barrel, 40mm sloped armour, and a single .307 caliber machine gun. Roguhly 200 are built by the end of the year. The A6M is exatcley the same as in OTL and roguhly 300 are made by the end of the year. Japan's industrial capacity continues to increase.
 * Baltics began a new way to expand. They ask Germans for attack Finns. Estonian president says, "The Finns are attacking our lands. They are crushing our independence. We know that they are NOT an ally of the Soviets, but we need a treaty, not an invasion. Germans, help us getting out of this mess. We have no choice."
 * Thailand: Thailand continues to build their military. Thailand also builds a few planes.
 * Venezuela: Defence spending had been increased and a military a recruiting drive began. The Venezuelan Over-seas Intelligence Service (V.O.I.S.) is formed. non-agression and free-trade agreements are offered to Colombia, Nicaragua, Panama and Brazil.

1936.6

 *  The Spanish Civil War begins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War,_1936 


 * The Finnish troops in the baltics strategicaly make their occupation zones to be next to the Soviet ones, now blocking further soviet advance into baltic territory without going into Finnish teritory(the only areas not realy occupied are around large cities and off the coasts-finnish trops are not besieging cities only defending themselves). A message is sent out the the USSR: If you advance any more-it will be an official decleration of war on finland as you are basicaly forced to advance into Finnish-held territory. Finnish troops propose peace negotiations in Helsinki or Tallin. A secret(Emphisis on SECRET) message is sent to the Estonian President which is pretty much summed up in this quote: "Stalin is not a man that forgives a death or invasion easily-if you kill even the slightest aquaintance that you said hello to during a party and talked to for a while-he will kill your entire family in front of your eyes." Finnish scientisct continue trying to decifer einstein, but to no avail.May add more later

'''Didn't I just say that I annexed the Baltic states? So if you invade Lithuania, you are invading me.Azecreth 13:32, August 25, 2011 (UTC)'''
 * Venezuela: Brazil rejected the Venezuelan free-trade zone and non-agression pact out of hand in favour of present trading ties with Argentina and Portugal; Nicaragua and Colombia said yes and the Panama did not commit its self either way. A telegram is sent to Cuba about a possible free trade agreement and sending 25 peace-keepers to Havana due to the violence between the Communist/Fascist parties in Cuba. Venezuela also builds a few light military planes. A 10 year industrialisation plan began, but Venezuela would not see the benefits of this campaign for at lest 5 years.
 * Hindustan (Modern day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Mynmar) startes to negociate their Independence with Great Britain. They also ask for an alliance with China as well as great Britain. They also say that they will keep the King as the head of state but will have a parliament with the President as head.
 * Thailand: Thailand asks for an allience with Hindustan. Meanwhile, they (Thailand) build up their (Thailand) military some.
 * Accepted
 * Venezuela: The government took note of India’s actions, but were bound to keep out and not interfear by the 1935 neutrality act. Venezuela will also continue trade with Spain, but will not take sides in the civil war or take military action either.
 * China asks any European nation and also the US for an alliance. China attempts to reorgainise its military and starts building railways across the empire. China heavily fortifies its coast and the border with Japan. China attacks the communists in Jiangxi and forces them of the Long March. There is a major divergence with the OTL as on this march, Mao Zedong is killed by a stray bullet in a KMT ambush. His sucessor didn't have the nessessary charisma or strength in numbers and the Communist Party collapsed.
 * Poland: Under recommendations from army high command Poland begins to produce large quantities of planes and tanks. The production of an airforce is given priority. Hundreds of tanks and planes are ordered from Russia and Germany as Poland attempts to modernize it's army and avoid falling behind other world powers.
 * Soviet Union: Stalin ships planes, tanks, pilots, and trainers to the Republican military in exchange for gold. In respoinse to what he sees as a threat from Finland, a massed Russian army slams through the uncompleted Mannerheim Line, and begins driving on Helsinki, while another army moves into northern Finland from Karelia. In the Baltic States, the half a million man army there smashes through the Finnish defenses, and force the Finnish troops to either evacuate, or be captured. The Baltic states are annexed by Soviet Russia as all their land is occupied.
 * Poland: Poland offers the Soviet Union an alliance. As part of the alliance Poland will buy over 1000 tanks and planes from the Soviet Union. Poland also requests that as part of the alliance Lithuania be handed over to Poland.
 * Alliance rejected. The sale can go ahead, for a suitable payment. Azecreth 13:26, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Italy: Italy continues improving it's military and industrial and technological strength. It also begins to support Stalin with the war against Finland and the Baltics, for it was, in the words of the current Prime Minister Pietro Nenni, a suicidal war launched by a far inferior opponent against the Soviet might. The currently Social Democratic parliament continues to strip the Grand Council of Fascism of its powers in favour of itself and King Umberto II. Irrendentist claims over Corsica and Dalmatia continue to grow.
 * Poland: Not willing to wait any longer for an answer from the Soviet Union regarding Lithuania, Poland launches a surprise inasion of Lithuania, looking to reunite the old Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. The attack begins with a bombing by the Polish airforce on multiple military targets, especially military airports. This is followed by a long bombing of the Lithuanian capital and a ground invasion by the 2nd, 3rd and 5th Polish armies backed by about 200 tanks. Lithuania is shocked by the attack and within the first two weeks alone almost the whole country is captured, including the capital, with some small pockets of resistance remaining in the North.

'''You didn't give anyone else a chance though, you just said they were annexed. Unless they were annexed within hours Poland would have had ample time to launch it's own invasion. Leninist 13:37, August 25, 2011 (UTC)'''

'''True, but this is a generalized 6 months, And I did say in 1935.6 that I was driving up towards Vilnius from the south, so odds are that I got there head of you. Just remove the parts about the Lithuanian capital, and it will be all right, I guess. Oh, an I'm not sure how hot the Lithuanians will be towards a forcible restoration of the Commonwealth. Azecreth 13:58, August 25, 2011 (UTC)'''

'''In reality it took 2 months to crush all 3 of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states#Background.Oxfordshire 1972 14:19, August 25, 2011 (UTC)'''
 * Venezuela sends a telegram to the US president expressing concern over Eastern Europe and a telegram to Moscow and Warsaw condemning the casualised use of force in the conflict. Venezuela declares it's neutrality under the 1935 neutrality act. The Venezuelan goverment puts forwards plans for a peace summit in Caracas, chaired by neutral Venezuela and the neutral USA.
 * Canada: Canada sends several hundred (~800) Canadians to serve in the of the Republican forces.