User talk:Lordganon

Mitro 03:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Archive, Archive 2, Archive 3, Archive 4

Congratulations, Lordganon


You are the winner of the 2011 Stirling Award for Best Writer in a Community Timeline in 2010 for your work in 1983: Doomsday. Though you technically won the award a while ago, I officially congratulate you for your achievements and formally present you with this award. Good luck in the next year! Red VS Blue 17:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

USSR's map
Hey LG, I'd like to ask for a favour, if that is ok with you. I was wondering if you would be willing to create a new map for Siberia after the new expansion takes place and is finished somewhere between early May-late June. I'm still sort of leaning towards a push in the direction of the north, but I was hoping to do one towards the south, around five to six months after the one in the north. I decided on this after I looked at Kazakhstan more thoroughly and realized that the USSR didn't have to a large area of Kazakhstan to reach Aralia, only around half of Aktobe and a large part of Kostanay, which would benefit them if wheat could still be grown there.

In any case, let me know if your up for it.--Vladivostok 17:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, well, lets look over what I had in mind then. I was thinking of them controling that small part of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug they aren't already. I was thinking they would expand slightly in Komi, so they would control about half of it. The Arkhangelsk oblast would then take up the majority of the expansion, around 3/4 of it within control. The whole SK annexation happens as planned of course. However, I wasn't sure about Murmansk Oblast. It is fairly empty, other than the Sapmi state, and they aren't really that friendly with the NU. Possible occupation?

Oh, and it would be great if the USSR map would have the various territories and republics highlighted, like the current one has. Once again, thanks for doing this, the current map is getting a bit grainy, lol.--Vladivostok 09:37, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well ok then, that is a bit disappointing, as one of the other reasons to enter the region was a port in Murmansk to give them some access to the Atlantic again. Although a port in Arkhangelsk or former SK would probably work just as well. My plan for announcing this was as follows: I'd announce today that the forces amassing on the USSR's western borders were indeed sent out to grab land and to formally annex SK.

Then, I'd also write that the start of this move would take place on the 5th of May as well. You don't have to finish the map by then, there is no rush, as it would take some time (a month, probably more) to acquire the land and secure it. The name I was thinking of would be something like the Northwestern Territory, but I'm open to suggestions.--Vladivostok 10:06, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I have just now realized I accidentally reverted one of your edits to the Doomsday page. Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just checking some of the edits on a mobile device and clicked revert by mistake. I welcome the edits and making the list more complete for the USSR.--Vladivostok 17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Military Alliance to be announced?
I remember you saying that the military alliance between Chumash and Visaili would be announced today October 1, so I was wondering if we were still going along with that or if it was to be put on hold or what? Yes I did read the post on the WCRB news page about Visaili and the Chumash ambassador visiting. Just get back to me when you can about military operations against Ventura and Santa Cruz (I know you said Ventura specifically but Santa Cruz is still a threat, and going down the 101 is pretty much a straight shot into the central coast, also I don't know where you got "mountains between Chumash and Bakersfield" remember I live here and its pretty much a 2 and a half hour drive into Kern and a 3 hour drive into Bakersfield with only a few small hills along the way). Anyways best of luck. Riley.Konner 10:10, October 1, 2011 (UTC) EDIT reversion:Sorry I just noticed that know were in that discussion did you mention any "mountains" that's my mistake and it will never happen again. Riley.Konner 10:33, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've seen what has been posted, and thank you for updating the Chumash page. In addition to the highways mentioned, Chumash can also send a few Bradley tanks to Visali via highway 46 (though that highway is a death trap lol) and 41. Bombing also sounds good, and naval bombardments from Chumash. I'm thinking a battle between the CRS Santa Barbara and a Venturan ship being called a modern battle between the USS Constitution and the HMS Guerriere. Also I'm working on a WCRB post that is a response given by Vilodari Scholairi and his vows to crush both the countries. Also I thought of a name for the Visali-Chumash alliance I'm thinking Organized States of California or the OSC. As for Mozambique that is at the bottom of my to do list, I'll see what happens in a couple of months. Riley.Konner 12:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Siberian expansion and the areas around Novgorod, Sapmi and Finland
Hey Ganon, I'd like to propose something regarding the territory the SIberian expansion would cover.

Now, based on the map of the NU, could the Siberians take what is left of Karelia and the area between Novgorod and the NU? This would cause tension and I was thinking of adding a bit about some skirmishes or incidents happening while Northern Hammer took place. Nothing serious but I mean, why hype the return of the USSR into this area if there isn't going to be any tension. Let me know what you think and feel free to say where the borders could start between these countries.Vladivostok 18:08, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it is true I haven't been as active as I should have been, sorry about that. In any case, it is a shame that Novgorod controls that area, I was hoping the Siberians would be the ones to acquire the ruins of Leningrad, oh well.

But I was hoping for the annexation of the Kola peninsula, I wanted to have a sort of Berlin airlift event in which the Siberians try and cut off Sampi, only to have the NU basically make their efforts worthless with air support.

I didn't think it was a stretch because the troops that would occupy the area would be from Soviet Karelia, not the principal forces of the USSR.--Vladivostok 11:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, after taking a look at the geography of Kola, I see you're right, a lot of mountain ranges are on the peninsula. But they are in the west and north part of the peninsula, the south-east is mostly flat areas. Now, it is true that these areas are difficult to reach, especially because other that some smaller cities on the coast, there aren't any roads. However, they don't actually have to physically patrol the area just yet to stake their claim.

Now of course air support would be scarse at best in the first expansion, but having just a couple of planes patrol the air space in this area would come a long way in discouraging any other group from trying to take that said area.

Now I also just wanted to bring up the new map for the USSR and the area in general. As far as the rest of the expansion, are we on the same page? So, I believe we said when we originally discussed this ages ago that they would take most of Arkhangels oblast, half of the Republic of Komi and Soviet Karelia.Vladivostok 10:43, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Qu'il Tous
So I think for our next step for Qu'il Tous, its time to start getting into some of the more political details of America and France, mostly by created an article for the Prime Ministers of France, Speaker of the House, somethings for the Senate of the US, and maybe a list of British Prime Ministers. Ownerzmcown 03:34, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Spotlight Request
Hi. Alternative History Wiki looks great and I've added it to the approved spotlight list. -- Wendy (talk ) 02:36, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations... Myself?


If I don't leave this here, it will 100% slip my mind, lol. Lordganon 08:43, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Post-War Balkans
Hey, LG, I really like the maps, they really came out well. My only concern is the extent to which Bosnia has expanded, it appears as though they seemed to draw into a lot of Serbia land, which I didn't expect. Of course I'm a bit of a perfectionist so it may just be that I don't like the irregular shape. Anyway, now that the war part is over, I will get around to writing in about it on the Macedonia page. If there's anything left to do just message me.

- Ownerzmcown (talk) 16:58, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Alternate Location for the Protestant Reformation
Would it be plausible for the Protestant Reformation to begin anywhere other than Northern Germany and Switzerland? This is for PMII, and the nations I was wondering about were Are any of these locations plausible? I know that this event would be 50 years away or more in-game, but I am assuming that it would be unlikely for the political landscape in Europe to change drastically during that time to be significantly different from OTL (other than perhaps a Scottish presence on Ireland, a less unified France, or the Ottomans having conquered less of the Balkans than in OTL) LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:08, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hungary
 * Bohemia (perhaps as a revival of Hussitism)
 * The Dutch/Frisian areas
 * (probably northern) France
 * England
 * Scotland
 * Ireland
 * Anywhere on the Balkan side of the Adriatic coast

In the game, currently, I am seeing the most likely cause for the beginning to be a rejection of the massive church taxes. Considering that the Papal states in this game have actually gone to war with another nation, I imagine that they are going to need a much greater source of money. Thus, the idea of a monarch refusing to fund the war seems to be likely. I'll be able to give a better picture in a couple weeks though. LurkerLordB (Talk) 22:59, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

OK: here's the situation: It is 1466, and Scotland is invading Ireland. The English, who want Ireland all to themselves, bring up an ancient old Papal bull and say they have the sole rights to invade Ireland to crush some heretics there. This convinces the Pope to start sending supplies to those heretics to help them resist the invasion of the Scottish. Would Scotland breaking away from the Catholic Church in response to this hypocritical action of the Pope be realistic at this time? LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:16, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

A Soviet Axis
I have another idea about a Soviet Axis. I did a bit of research, and it seems that most of Hitler’s generals wanted to go through N. Belgium, not the Ardennes. What if Hitler listened to those generals and went that way? They would meet high numbers of Allied troops, and could potentially cause a stalemate. Additional troops would pour in from other parts of France and UK, and we could have another WW1 type situation in Belgium or River Somme. Could you check the Timeline again? Thanks. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 20:52, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Also, is an invasion of Switzerland really not going to happen? I found this on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenbaum

PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 21:39, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I suppose that's not plausible. But I saw that Belgian intelligence had figured out Germany would attack through the Ardennes region, and would use paratroopers to go behind the lines. But the Allies didn't listen. What if they had listened?

"In the winter of 1939–1940, the Belgian consul-general in Cologne had anticipated the angle of advance that Von Manstein was planning. Through intelligence reports, they deduced that German forces were concentrating along the Belgian and Luxembourg frontiers. The Belgians were convinced that the Germans would thrust through the Ardennes and to the English Channel with the aim of cutting off the Allied field Armies in Belgium and north-eastern France. They also anticipated that the Germans would try to land airborne and glider forces behind the Allied lines to break open Belgian fortifications. Such warnings were not heeded by the French, or British."

"On March 1940, Swiss intelligence detected six or seven Panzer Divisions on the German-Luxembourg-Belgian border. More motorized divisions had also been detected in the area. French intelligence were informed that the Germans were constructing pontoon bridges partially—about halfway—over the Our River on the Luxembourg-German border[citation needed] through aerial reconnaissance. The French military attaché in the Swiss capital—Berne—warned that the centre of the German assault would come on the Meuse at Sedan, sometime between 8 and 10 May. The report was dated 30 April. These reports had little effect on Gamelin."

Also, the reason the BEF/French forces were forced to evacuate at Dunkirk was because they were surrounded and cut off after German forces invaded France. If Allied forces hadn't rushed into Belgium, couldn't they have slowed down the German invasion?

Thanks. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:48, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Also, and yet, Wikipedia says otherwise. It says Manstein’s plan “provoked a storm of protest from the majority of German generals.” (Battle of France, “Adoption of Manstein’s Plan”). Even though Hitler liked his idea, if Manstein had never come to Hitler’s attention, the attack would have gone into Belgium. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 22:41, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then, if Chamberlain had not appeased Hitler, and stood up to him, could the war have been delayed for another 5-6 months? If then, the entire invasion of France/the Low Countries could have bogged down. Thoughts? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 00:31, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Then if the war started in Czechoslovakia, how would the war have gone? There is, obviously, no way for Britain or France to help. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:46, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Also, if Operation Pike had been moved up before the invasion of the Soviet Union, could that have led to war between the USSR and the Allies, thus leading them making an unholy alliance with the Germans? Thanks. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:07, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. That's true. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 22:48, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Then is there any way the invasion of Poland or Germany could have been postponed one year, leading to OP? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 22:49, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I suppose conflict between Germany and the USSR is inevitable? I think there might be other ways out there, but in case there is really 0 percent probability, what would you say is the best name for the TL? Assuming, of course, that we are going under "no appeasement". PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 22:56, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm. Any ideas on that? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 23:19, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Dammit I was going to rename it Fall Grün... until I realized there was already a featured TL with that same name. Grr. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:19, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

For the name, how about “Chamberlain Grows a Backbone”? Lol. But more seriously, how about Munich Agreement Failure? Although I like “A Soviet Axis” better :( PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 20:12, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Or maybe even Case Green, although that is kind of a “copy” of Fall Grün. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 20:13, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Chamberlain receives false information that the Germans are under prepared and will not invade Czechoslovakia, and thus gains the courage to stand up to Hitler. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 21:01, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Is this a good PoD?
 * In 1937, fearing Nazi aggression, the British Secret Intelligence Service managed to recruit an agent in the Nazi Party, who was only known as his code name SONGBIRD. He was a personal aide of Albert Speer. SONGBIRD gave highly accurate information regarding the Nazis and their logistical capabilities, as well as their current stocks of food, weapons, and other supplies. However, in 1938, he sent false information regarding current weapon stocks, which lead to Neville Chamberlain believing that the Wehrmacht is not ready to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938, and will stand down. Due to these, he does not choose the policy of appeasing Hitler, and instead commits British support in case of a German invasion of Czechoslovakia. Hitler invades anyway, and the German army becomes bogged down in Czechoslovakia.

PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:57, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

How about this revised PoD: PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 21:02, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * In 1932, Hans Oster, an officer of the German Army, does not get into trouble and is not forced to resign. Due to this, he rises and eventually ends up on General Staff prior to the German takeover of Czechoslovakia. After hearing Hitler's plans, Oster went to the British, where he volunteered to be a spy. He was soon code-named SONGBIRD. Oster gave highly accurate information regarding the Nazis and their logistical capabilities, as well as their current stocks of food, weapons and other supplies. However, just before the Munich Agreement in 1938, he accidentally sent false information regarding current weapon stocks, which led Neville Chamberlain to believe that the Wehrmacht is not ready to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938, and would stand down. Due to these, he does not choose the policy of appeasing Hitler, and instead commits British support in case of a German invasion of Czechoslovakia. Hitler invades anyway, and the German army becomes bogged down in Czechoslovakia.

Which is why I chose Oster. In fact, he actually apparently told his friend in the Netherlands when the invasion date of the Low Countries would be, hoping they could delay the Germans. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 21:20, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

'Nother revised Pod? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 23:43, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * In 1932, Hans Oster, an officer of the German Army, does not get into an affair with his commanding officer’s wife and is not forced to resign. Due to this, he rises and eventually ends up on General Staff prior to the German takeover of Czechoslovakia. In 1938, during Krystalnacht, his 17 year old daughter Barbara was raped and murdered by drunken Nazis. He became furious at the Nazis-however, in order to keep his life, he kept that a secret. Later that year, after hearing Hitler's plans, Oster went to the British, where he volunteered to be a spy. He was soon code-named SONGBIRD. Oster gave highly accurate information regarding the Nazis and their logistical capabilities, as well as their current stocks of food, weapons and other supplies. However, just before the Munich Agreement in 1938, he accidentally sent false information regarding current weapon stocks, which led Neville Chamberlain to believe that the Wehrmacht is not ready to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938, and would stand down. Due to these, he does not choose the policy of appeasing Hitler, and instead commits British support in case of a German invasion of Czechoslovakia. Hitler invades anyway, and the German army becomes bogged down in Czechoslovakia.

If he had not ended up on the General Staff, would he still have been able to get that information? Thanks. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 18:57, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Also, he had a daughter Barbara who would have been 17 during Krystalnacht. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 18:58, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Anyhow, I have a finalized PoD, how is it? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:44, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

I have another revised PoD, will you look at it? Thanks. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 20:16, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, revised PoD and revised name at: Hans Oster, the Good Nazi. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 23:30, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Fack! Any suggestions to the name? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 19:52, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, although I liked the "Good Nazi" name :( Obviously based off of Albert Speer, the Good Nazi. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 00:00, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

King and Queen
LG, I just thought of the most insane thing: What would have happened if Princess Charlotte (who was Princess of Wales), became the Queen and married William, Prince of the Netherlands? What would have happened between the two nations? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:02, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

OK, I get it now.

Lol, Victoria and Albert for Belgium. Makes some sense. Yes! Belgium's time of greatness! Forget Congo, let's take all of Southern Africa and Flanders and the BeNeLux! Victory for Belgium! Victory for waffles! Down with pancakes! XD, yes a mighty Belgium would make quite a ridiculous story.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:23, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Couldn't have said it better, mate. Completely true on that point. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:38, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Greenland (1983:DD)
I must admit that I have been out of the loop much of the summer. To top it off, I don't seem to get email alerts when the main talk page of 1983:DD is altered. My mind being elsewhere, I don't think to check there or even wiki-wide posts for that matter.

I say this to perhaps remove the suspicion you might have for my recent reversion of the Greenland stub back to fx's work which you put up for review and then changed after the review was "over." It is not that your arguments were unsound, but rather because you do not seem to have contacted fxgentleman during the review period. If you wish to put the article back under review after notification, I support that move, but I respectfully ask that you do not get into an editing war over this. SouthWriter (talk) 20:52, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

I honestly do not believe you read your talk page, Ganon. Otherwise, your reaction to the revert is explicable. Of course it was a "Community Review," but with no input from the caretaker of the article at all. It is somewhat suspicious that you chose a period when fx is not active to pick on a stub -- not even a full fledged page -- that he had produced and had accepted. Common courtesy would call for at least some feed back from him. I am in a hard place here, Ganon, since it seems only you and I are active in the top tier -- you a lot more than me. I have no choice but to sometimes contradict you. As I point out above, I see no problem in you changing things. It is the way you change things that is a problem. I cannot change you, so I must at times stand against you. --SouthWriter (talk) 04:34, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Questions
1) What if Mark Antony had not by defeated at Actium but instead had won, perhaps even killing Octavian and Agrippa when their ship(s) were accidently rammed by friendly ships even the attempts to flee?

2) What if Julius Caesar had been warned of the Senator's plot and escaped being killed by the Senators?

3) What if Julius Caesar had never been born?

4) What if St.Paul had gone on mission trips to the East intstead of to the West for whatever reason (God, fear of death, etc.) and St.Thomas had preached to the West?

5) What if Julius Caesar, when he was fleeing Alexandria he had been delayed for several minutes and was killed by Arsinoe's forces?

Bobalugee1940 (talk) 00:40, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Stub
I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but you've reverted most of my stub edits on pages. I just want to know, then, what constitutes a stub. Thanks! PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 20:37, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I suppose I'll be more thoughtful next time when I attach the category. PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 21:05, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re:RA Notes
Greetings. Speak of the Devil, I was hoping to get your opinion here, and you beat me to it. Glad you like it, and glad it all came out right. If at all possible, I just wanted to clarify an idea I thought of after reading your comments. What of a 1905-like revolution taking place later on (prior to WWI), and allowing the timeline to sync with 1917 and so on. But I am pretty sure this won't work, so ignore me if it is a bad idea.

I will have to do more reading about the revolution and the civil war, but how different do you mean? Bloodier and longer... would this have any affect towards the formation of the USSR (or even a similar outcome)?

I wasn't aware that the Five Races flag was unpopular (would explain why it isn't used today). But, I don't see any other choice, and I personally like the design (original, identifiable, and simple). My argument would compare this to how Germans weren't too fond of the black-red-gold tricolor, but after Nazi rule (and the Allies doing what they wanted), the tricolor remained. I would see this being the same, especially since Japan would help reestablish a monarchy in China after WWII, and not for the fact that this flag was used multiple times by the Japanese OTL (just look at the flags for and the ).

As for Afghanistan and Persia, no need to worry. I already looked into them and agree that there would be no difference.

Thank you again. Glad you like the idea. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 22:47, October 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your input. I believe I can work from here. It also may work out for how I have envisioned Alaska being a "White haven," but I need to work on it.


 * I am rather upset that this flag was actually hated (it was quite clever IMHO). But since I see being appointed Emperor, I guess using the Qing flag isn't a bad idea. It would also make sense why EVERYBODY uses it, lol.


 * Also, because I noticed you added a new category, how is Valkyrie Rides biased? (or ASB for that matter?) I didn't see anything wrong with it? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:00, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just thought of something that I would love to get your two cents on. What if Alexander II wasn't assassinated? Russia would have transformed into a (somewhat) constitutional monarchy. I was thinking this could lead to a 1905-like reform, and allowing the revolutions and civil war to be (more or less) the same. What do you think? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:45, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

1983: Doomsday
I couldn't find my original message, so I've restarted it.

Do you know of any improtant post-doomsday cities that aren't claimed yet (worldwide?)

In North America, I'd prefer a central-eastern region, somewhere where's there's room to thrive.

I don't suppose any Pacific or Caribbean islands are available?

Anywhere in the former Congo?

Oh, and by the way, you might want to rename Nanchung to Nanchang and relocate it south of the Dragon State, or whoever made the latest map.

Canuck2012 (talk) 01:48, October 10, 2012 (UTC)Canuck2012

I meant for the map-it still shows Nanchang as being in the west near Sichuan, when it should be south of the Dragon State. There's no such city as Nanchung, only Nanchang, which is in the former province the Dragon State is in.

Canuck2012 (talk) 19:38, October 10, 2012 (UTC)Canuck2012

EoGuy
What do you think about making him a part of the TSPTF because of his simply amazing copyediting work over the past few months? I know that it's supposed to be a year, but I think we can make an exception in this case. Thoughts? PitaKang- (But here's my number | So call me maybe) 00:38, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Edits
Damn, I meant to do this the day it happened, then completely forgot...

But, hey, happy (very belated) 50,000 edits!

even though I am some 2,500 edits late...

The Royal Guns (talk) 18:36, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Questions
1) What if Oliver Cromwell had become King/Emperor/etc. of England, maybe absolute or not; also what is a possible POD for him becoming a monarch

2) What if the royalist won the English Civil War?

3) What if Frederick the Great had children?

4) What if Richard Cromwell had not been incompetent and was able to rule a republican England?

5) What if Zwingli had not died at the Battle of Kappel but instead had survived and fled to either Poland or the Balkans or Scotland?

Bobalugee1940 (talk) 19:27, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's based on game so I can't really write everything about that. It was meant to be only about one war. Also, I'm here only one day, so stuff about "no interest in improving" sounds just - sorry - funny. Chillax mate.

If it's wrong to write only about conflict or add stuff everyday, well - there's nothing much I can do about that. Delete if you wish, or if there is no other way.

Anjin Miura (talk) 08:46, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Grammer vs. Gomez
It occurred to me that Kelsey Grammer of Frasier fame is, in OTL, a registered and proud Republican. Maybe he ought to be the running mate of Brian Williams in Napoleon's World as a conservative counterweight on the National Party ticket instead of the fictional Alex Gomez? He could be the Senator of Florida (where he grew up), for example. What do you think?

KingSweden (talk) 05:05, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

True true, specially since the National Party is more Rockefeller Republican than Tea Party in ATL. OR I could just make Grammer not be a tea partier in his convictions, since I neither Robert Redford, Brian Williams nor Steve Martin are known for being conservatives (particularly Redford) yet in NW they are all part of the National Party.

KingSweden (talk) 17:41, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

I think I'll just make Grammer the Senate Majority Leader.

KingSweden (talk) 00:22, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ugh yeah I know I should. How do I do that?

KingSweden (talk) 03:26, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

A Bunraku Sock?
Hey LG, long time no talk. Anyways, I just wanted to bring something to your attention. We have two users (mapgamers really), this guy and this other person, that claim to be brother and sister. However, this whole brother and sister thing really seems to be working out for them, and they're practically allied in most of their map games in common. Call me too presumptive, but do I smell a dirty sock? Or is it a puppet? I hope you catch my wind.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 01:41, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hey there. Just thought I'd drop you a line and ask why you took out the changes I made to the "Japanese Victory" page? Vexacus

I do not want to REMOVE anything from it, I want to ADD to it. I;m hoping to adopt the TL

I do not want to break any of the wiki's rules. I do not intend to REMOVE anything from the "Japanese Victory" page, rather I want to add to the start and expand beyond what was originally written. I hope to adopt the page

Vexacus

OK, thank-you for explaining that. And if yhou undo my edits, will I be able to undo your undo if I am allowed to adopt the page?

Vexacus

Prussian Generals
Hey LG. How are you? I was hoping you could provide a list of Generals in the Prussian, Spanish, and Austrian Armies during the Napoleonic Wars. I've been looking everywhere and I ownly found a few, most of them notable. Enclavehunter (talk) 23:15, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thank-you for explaining that to me. I have copied down all the changes I had made and have a list of changes I hope to make if I am allowed to adopt the page. So my fingers, toes any anything else that can be is crossed

Vexacus

Continental Association
What I was thinking several scenarios that would change the American Revolution, all PODs occuring before the continental association.

1) What if the Catholic Quebecois continued the war against the British as Francs-tireurs causing them to be more and more repressed until they eventually go into full open revolt against the British, possibly with the help of the more southern British Colonies.

2) What if the Spanish did not leave in a mass exodus from Florida after the French and Indian War but instead the Spanish crown thought it would be to expensive, or really anything that would stop them from leaving after the war, and the many Spanish Catholics stayed there. Afterwards the similar concessions made to Quebec did not occur and when invited to revolt against the Protestant, repressing, spiteful British they took their chances and joined.

3) What if East and/or West Florida joined the revolution by some other means (use whatever POD you can dream up)

4) What if the Continental Association also imeadiatley banned exports to Britian, thus hurting their economy and supply of wood, food, and unproduced goods. This causes the British to start the revolution earlier, maybe February 1775 or earlier with a battle against the colonial militia. Or perhaps whatever else this effect would have on the revolution.

Bobalugee1940 (talk) 01:27, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

you got a min?
anon user  150.203.223.120  blanked my talk page would you or another admin take care of them for me?

thanks in advance.

Wingman1 05:31, October 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Someone reverted the vandalism. I blocked the user for 6 months. Hope that is alright. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:03, October 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * yea it's good now. thanks.[[Image:Temp.png|30px]] Wingman1 18:23, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Quick concept
Greetings, LG. I would like to get your two cents on an idea I just read about. I'm sure you remember that in Russian America, Germany would become divided. So let's assume early on (since all the powers pretty much did), Germany was going to be permanently divided (not temporarily occupied). With that, wouldn't it make more sense for most of the (the parts of Germany that now make up western Poland) to remain in any rump state?

I came across this idea here, and it does make some sense. However, I would like to get your two cents on this before I go any further. For the record, I would intend for southern East Prussia, Danzig, and Upper Silesia to go to Poland. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:10, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

I am glad to help, and I am glad that I didn't go too far on that block.

I am rather confused? I thought you were in favor of a divided Germany (regardless), now you want what happened OTL? If anything, I know where you are (I am loosing interest in this idea myself).

But trying to look at all possibilities, I have one idea that I would like to explore, and would like a second opinion on. Poland is annexed into the Soviet Union after WWII. My reasoning for this would be that (like the Baltic States), Poland was once part of the Soviet Union; and since the Soviets would also annex Mongolia and Uyghuristan ATL, Poland could be interesting. I have read mostly negative opinions on this idea, but considering how different RA is, it might have a better chance here. Along with which, this Polish SSR would not include any part of Germany (obviously excluding Danzig, East Prussia, and Upper Silesia). The remaining parts of the Recovered Territory would remain part of the Soviet-backed Prussia, since there would be no need to add more Germans to the USSR (and possibly as a way for the West to accept a Polish SSR). Since it would be technically part of the USSR, all of East Prussia (including Kaliningrad) would become part of Poland (if not right away, then later [since Russia offered the port to Lithuania later on]), and maybe Lvov would be given to Poland as a sign of good hope. Either way, Poland would become independent around 1991, and may follow the Baltic States towards being anti-Soviet.

And if this is a stupid idea, what would be your take on the ? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:30, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Adoption of Timeline
My Lord, it is permissible for me for adopting the OFA Chinese Empire timeline and change its basic idea to create a second version of my Myomi Republic timeline? FirstStooge (talk) 07:27, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

This comming Tuesday will be the 1-week I need to wait after PM-ing the original owner of the "Japanese Victory" Page that I&apos;m hoping to be able to adopt. On Tuesday afternoon, I will procede to Stage 2 of the adoption process. I just thought I would let you know in advance so that when I put the Adoption Aplication notice on the page, it does not get edited out

Vexacus 15:02GMT, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

I have left the notice at the top of the page, now all I have to do is wait three days

Vexacus

I have left a note on the talk page. Sorry for the confusion in placing it on the wrong page. I take it the three days has been reset and I now have to wait until Saturday to find out if I can adopt it?

Vexacus (talk) 12:16, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Then I look forward to Saturday and the reset 3-day waiting period has given me the chance to find some pictures I&apos;ll be posting, if I am able to adopt the TLVexacus (talk) 11:35, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

2012: Doomsday
Lordgano can you please delete my 2012:Doomsday Page (or Random Doomsday because SOMEONE moved it without CONSULTING me first.) because I've decided to make another 2012:Doomsday page not based on a modern version of 1983:Doomsday but what the mayans said that the world would end this year (but prob won't).

Thank You - User:Lewody1 11:39 GMT 01/11/2012

In anticipation of being allowed to adopt the "Japanese Victory" page, I was hoping I could ask your advice. I have written a good deal that takes place before the first date on the page, I have also re-written a lot of what has already been posted and I have several pages worth of stuff to take place after the last post. My question is should I re-post it in chunks or in one fo, what do you think?Vexacus (talk) 13:54, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

In chunks it is. And I'm glad to here it is the wiki axcting funky and not my PC (^_^) Vexacus (talk) 09:57, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not copying films
Actually Lordganon. I haven't seen the 2012 Movie but I've heard about it so if my timeline has got something similar with the film then i'm sorry but i'm not copying it - User:Lewody1 10:45 GMT 02/11/12

Adoption Question
If I am indeed allowed to adopt the "Japanese Victory" page, what happens? Is a notice posted on the page lettign people know or do I get told I've adopted it via my talk page?

Vexacus (talk) 20:33, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Strange Occurance
Hey LG, it's me again. Scraw. Now see here, something strange just happened to me. I was using my uncle's Mac, you see, and I just received a notice in the bottom right hand corner of the page I had just edited saying that I had made the Lucky Edit. As I've mentioned in the past, I know these exist, but I never get them. (The notice, that is.) Curious, I clicked at the bottom that notice that said "See what other badges you can earn!" That led me to my userpage.

You may or may not know this, but I was #4 on the wiki. My userpage now tells me that I am number 12 and that I have lost 990 points.

But, my drop-down list shows all my 72 badges. Apparently, 71 badges had added up to 4300 points. 72 adds up to 3590 points.

Now the big question here is, how?

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 21:32, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

OK. Thanks.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 16:12, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Message Left
I have left that message on the talk page and will nowe undo the changes you undid, ok? Vexacus (talk) 15:10, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Text Problem
Can you help me, I need to know the font originally used on the "Japanese Victory" page, but when I copy and past it, it says Helvetica, but when I paste a new section in, it does not match the font originally used

Vexacus (talk) 21:49, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

'''The Anti-Piracy League page is tied to Principia Moderni II. It's my fault, i forgot to put in the proper labeling. Please remove the deletion notice, since it was fixed by Scandinator.AP (talk) 07:13, November 7, 2012 (UTC)'''

??What Font??
Since you said the fonty I have used at the start of the "Japanese Victory" TL looks horrible, what font would you recomend?Vexacus (talk) 10:10, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

More Wiki Problems?
I take it there are more Wiki problems as when I went to check on a badge I am working towards, it now shows the earliest badges I gotVexacus (talk) 11:05, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Lordganon. I would like to apologize to you about my behavior a couple months ago. If you recall, I made an article called "Brave New World", which was hastily moved to the Future Wiki and it has now become one of the more successful projects there. Anyways, you contacted me and gave me some info about moving it, and shortly after, I asked a couple questions regarding adding gun articles to the 1983: Doomsday timeline (which I got to say is a marvelous piece of work). In response, you told me that I would not be capable of doing such a thing, as I would be "stepping on the toes of others". My reply to you was less than friendly, and accused you of patronizing me, which was a mistake on my part. I was going through a rough time during the times of those posts and my mood was more... foul than usual. Now that I have explained myself, I would like to say sorry for the behavior that I displayed to you. Hopefully when the time comes, I would like to participate in the 1983: Doomsday project and become a prominent althist writer here, as the entire idea of it is fascinating to me. In the near future, I will contact you or someone else regarding the editorial directives.

Thanks! XtranormalGeek 23:47, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks LG. I do the best as i can. :) Regards Katholico (talk) 03:53, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Adoption Question
I have left a message on the talk page of the user who created the "Japanese Victory at Midway" page, he is tghe same one who created the "Japanese Victory" page whicvh I adopted. If he does not respond withion a week and if no one objects after the three-day waiting period after I have posted my intentions to adopt the page, would I be allowed to remove the page and use it on the "Japanese Victory" page as some of it would fit in very well Vexacus (talk) 12:51, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Barack Obama in Nelson's Death
Hey LG. I was wondering if you could answer a quick question:

Would Barack Obama exist in my ATL: Nelson's Death, should the French own Kenya, and thus Obama's father living in a French Kenya instaed of a British Kenya?

Enclavehunter (talk) 23:33, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Questions Regarding my ATL
Hi, I recently saw that you've labelled my ATL under the categories "Time Travel", "Biased", and "Random".... I was wondering if you could explain to me how this ATL is biased even though I haven't really expanded my timeline yet.... Also, does being included in these categories indicate that this ATL is an unreasonable and faulty ATL? I really want to write a good ATL about the Ming Dynasty during the Chongzhen period, but I couldnt find a good enough POD, please help me!

P.S. Why isn't "Aetas ab Brian" included in the "Time Travel" category? It has 2 people time-travelling after all....

Black Prince of Britannia (talk) 18:03, November 9, 2012 (UTC)Black Prince of Britannia

Perhaps I am being simply annoying and wasting your time, but according to my understandings, in the page "List of PODs", "Aetas ab Brian" clearly states that an Egyptian man fell through time to Ptolemiac Egypt. Also, if you read the descriptions of Carico, you would find that his god-like abilities to create wooden planes, steam engines, and even to go to the extent of adopting Jesus (Jeff Brian, but this is only according to my understandings) could only indicate time-travelling...

Also, if you do have time, I was wondering if you could re-evaluate my ATL after I've finished expanding it.

Thank You! XD

207.6.254.79 03:07, November 11, 2012 (UTC)Black Prince of Britannia

I am really persistent, so for God's sake, please read the following pages...

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperabridgement_(%C3%86tas_ab_Brian)

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Roman_timeline_of_invention_(%C3%86tas_ab_Brian)

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Cruuxius_Tiberius_Carico_(%C3%86tas_ab_Brian)

If that still does not prove my point (I have no intention of antagonizing the author of "Aetas ab Brian" nor anyone, including you because of this. I'm simply trying to make my point.) Then I believe that I need to get examined for reading-disabilities...

Black Prince of Britannia (talk) 23:17, November 11, 2012 (UTC)Black Prince of Britannia

K, it seems that I'm wrong.... But still, how would you explain the inventions and the genius of Carico? Anyways, it still seems to me to be sort of a "wank" but I shall not press this matter anymore.

Thank you for your help though!

Black Prince of Britannia (talk) 22:57, November 12, 2012 (UTC)Black Prince of Britannia

Re:Russian America Far East
Glad you like the new map. Funny that you should mention it, because I was considering the possibilities. I guess it wouldn't be unreasonable for the Soviets to demand more from China. My only questions about would be how much? For instance, Japan made an Inner Mongolia puppet state in the '30s, and it only comprised of about half of modern day Inner Mongolia (also including the territory that was part of Manchuria).

Since we are discussing a Greater Mongolia, what about a Greater Tibet? I don't know what constituted Tibet prior to the modern-day border, but what would you think about the British demanding more? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:06, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's why there's two Mongolias? Doesn't surprise me, but interesting to know. I have made an updated map if you are interested.


 * Since I have your attention, I was wondering if I could get your two cents on another idea I have been thinking about for weeks now. I have been seeing this idea being used a lot lately, and it seems plausible for RA as well. During the Russo-Spanish War (which Russia also offered aid to Mexico), the Russians further stress the Spanish out by going after the Philippines (which was also going through anti-Spanish rebellion). After winning the war, Russia would also demand the islands as part of their winnings. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:52, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for bringing this up on this conversation, but I wanted to get you opinion on something else I've been wanting to do for a while. My sandbox has become more of a directory than a testing ground. I have been considering dividing my sandbox into several separate pages (each related to a specific timeline). I am not sure if this would go against any rules or anything (probably not because there are a lot of pages just for "Mexico"), but it wouldn't hurt to bring it up before I do so. Thank you again. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 01:30, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Sterling Awards 2012
Greetings LG! I have a question related to this/next years Sterling Awards, and when they will start and what the plan is. I'm asking now becuase Mitro is wondering if it will be possible for me to cover them on his |Alternate History Weekly Update blog once they do get started. I know we were throwing out ideas last year about how to change the awards around, so I was just coming to you to see if you have any definite changes taking place.

If you can give me some heads up so I can cover it/report on it, please let me know so I can plan ahead.

Thanks! Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 16:32, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for the heads up. I'll most likely just list the nominations on the blog when we start the voting, and provide links to said nominations. Lieut. Tbguy1992: Profile; Talk 05:10, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet alert:
Sockpuppet alert:

This IP, 165.138.65.253, is controlling several nations using different names in Axis vs. Allies Revolutions.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:47, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Lafayette
I was reading about Lafayette and I was wondering what would have happened if he had accepted the Dictatorship of France instead of allowing Louis-Phillipe to become King?

I was thinking that after becoming Dictator he could have wrote a new constitution much like the OTL July Monarchy accept he and his descendants was King.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motier,_marquis_de_Lafayette#Accession_of_Louis-Philippe

Bobalugee1940 (talk) 00:04, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Adoption Notice
I messaged the creator of the "Japanese Victory at Midway" page a week ago and I have not heard from him, therefore I am letting you know that I have oput up an adoption notice on the talk page for the "Japanese Victory at Midway" TL Vexacus (talk) 23:58, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

How?
How am I violating the rules?Homesun (talk) 14:03, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Please delete
Can you delete all the pages related to North American Democracy except the NAD page itself, I want to start this over and not make it as 'stupid'. Looking back at the pages I see they are totally unrealistic and mostly stupid like "He was Prime Minister and elected president" I was less politically knowing so i want a fresh start. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:53, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

But leave the North Continential Relations, George Bush and Texan related pages. There is nothing wrong with those ~ Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:57, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Actualy delete everything related to NAD, i'm starting a new one so its a fresh start and with different aspects. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:55, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

THANKS :DDDD!!! Umm my new althistory is New America sorta like the last one but "better" more full. I know you were good with giving capitals. Can you see the map on the New America page and give a list of capitals for each nation? Thanks Marcus/Michael Villanova 02:06, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Congressman Milk
I'm not sure why you decided to revert the edits I did. I moved them to a timeline page at Timeline (Congressman Milk),which was also deleted. Do you care to explain this?


 * Maybe you didn't read what I wrote here. I didn't remove anything. I moved them to another page. Also, the page Congressman Milk says that changes are welcome right on the page you edited. I didn't realize that there were pages that are not edited on that are shared by the community and that they only have one editor. I thought the Alt History was a good idea and was going to add more to it, but if that's not allowed I won't do it. Thanks for letting me know. --Pinkkeith (talk) 22:53, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hello
I thought I would report This to an admin. Make of it what you will. I am withholding judgement.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk)

Yes. Umm... wow. I noticed it too. David got here first, I guess. The Royal Guns (talk) 20:40, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

2012 Bowl Season College Football Pick'em
Its your favorite time of year again, LG. I always post this on your wall first, btw, since you've included your reasoning for each pick both times I've done it :)

NCAA Division I National Championship (Citrus Bowl)

1 Cuba (13-0) vs. 2 Texas (13-0)

Sugar Bowl

16 Kahokia (10-3) vs. 8 Texas A&M (11-1)

Manhattan Bowl 12 Iowa (10-2) vs. 13 Pittsburgh (10-2)

Rose Bowl

4 Washington (12-1) vs. 7 Ohio State (11-2)

Orange Bowl

13 San Diego (10-2) vs. 6 South Carolina (11-1)

Silver Bowl

18 Huron (9-3) vs. 3 Sequoyah (12-1)

Peach Bowl

14 Alabama (10-3) vs. 19 Virginia (9-4)

Texas Bowl

5 Pacifica (11-1) vs. 10 Massachusetts (10-2)

Chicago Bowl

11 Notre Dame (10-3) vs. 15 Louisiana (10-2)

Paradise Bowl

17 Fresno State (13-0) vs. 9 Peninsula (11-2)

KingSweden (talk) 01:58, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

I am sick of this
LG, I believe I have had enough of this. For the past year now, I continually receive comments discrediting my ideas and hard work. Now you have commented on how two of my ideas will not work, and now I have to remove them and this is upsetting for me. It has gotten to the point that I am now fearful of posting any new ideas on the grounds of getting comments that they are not workable. I do not wish for your help to end, I appreciate all the help I can get and I especially like to have my timelines correct; but now that weeks of hard work I have put into these ideas are now just pieces of trash, it has become a frustration and I am not sure how to take it. I am not sure how me informing you all of this will be of any help, but it is something I have to say. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:29, December 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I really do apologize for my actions. It was uncalled for and I feel rotten for saying those things to a friend like you. I know that you are only trying to help out. But keep in mind that I did spends several weeks reading, contemplating, discussions, debates, and redrafting of my South America idea to the point that I thought it was workable; and all that work was gone in only a few paragraphs which stated that not one flaw, but several flaws. It was very overwhelming to know that I have screwed up again, and have to start from scratch. I was caught up in the moment, and I understand if you are mad at me. If at all possible, let us move forward.


 * As I mentioned above, I was more upset about South America rather than Italy (which was an idea I didn't explore to much beforehand). The overall reasoning for me exploring a divided Italy was because of Germany (and China) being "punished", while Italy (even OTL) was pretty much left alone, the fact that Italy was the closest western nation to willingly become communist, and that with the idea of Germany being purposely divided (meaning Berlin isn't), the Cold War looks rather weak in comparison with OTL. It had nothing to do with monarchies (I have begun to show more fascination with them lately, after all), but that you said a division was unlikely here, and that a communist state wouldn't work either way. So I have lost interest in this idea overall.


 * The South America idea I may bring back in some form or another (maybe as a Peru-Bolivian Dominion state as you suggested), but I believe I need a break and come back on a fresh mind. I have a couple of ideas I would like to look into, primarily General tiu's idea for Japan. But like I said, maybe I need a break, all of this is getting overcomplicated. So again, I do apologize for my actions, and I hope that you can forgive me. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:56, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I never really considered Asia in that respect; aside from the obvious fact that the USSR and Japan would have nukes facing each other. While I am not too sure (not an expert), the Vietnam War would probably still happen (it began from the leaving French), but maybe there would be large numbers of Japanese fighting in the war.

I am well aware that the Ainu make up a low population, but I added Hokkaido as a "country" for other reasons besides ethnics:


 * Much like Korea and the others, Hokkaido (and the Kurils) were annexed by Japan (not part of the original home islands). Granted, Japan had more time and success in colonizing the region, Hokkaido still has an "otherness" mentality even to this day (not as great as [say] Texas, but enough that this may be looked into upon reformation ATL).


 * Despite being an empire of "countries" (still not sure on a name), Japan would be a unitary state (much like the UK), which would all be "Japanese" by the time I am considering the empire to reform. In short, Japan divided for regional and historic say, not so much ethnics.

But it is still a work in progress, and I have not gotten any response by Tiu to help me along. So one step at a time. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:26, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Kingdom of Quebec (French America)
Whay did you undo my modifications? What does 3,854,085 sq mi km2 mean? What are natinos?

205.151.119.83 13:02, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Spokane in 1983:DD
How did Spokane survive the nuclear attack on Fairchild AFB? Downtown Spokane (where I work) is less than a ten minute drive from the base, and back in 1983 areas north of the city like Mead or east like Spokane Valley were less built-out from suburbanization (though they did exist). The only plausible explanation I can come up with for this is that Fairchild is at a much higher elevation than the city (which is down along a river valley) and thus the city was partially shielded from the blast, though no doubt still heavily damaged. I know the Spokane junta is canon, but there should probably be a plausible explanation for the city's survival.

KingSweden (talk) 06:38, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds pretty reasonable. I assume then that the nukes fired at Seattle and Tacoma were higher MT than the Spokane one?

KingSweden (talk) 23:52, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

New Apoc:2012 page nominated for deletion
Hey Lordganon, I had just created the page Weather During The Apocalypse (Apocalypse: 2012) (which will likely be renamed and has a hell of a lot of data to be put in) when a user named Cartoon1 nominated the article for deletion. He did not explain why on the talk page. I'm not sure how to proceed as I have no idea if he is a Wikia official or a troll. Could you please help? Thank you, Scandinator (talk) 13:59, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of page
My page was nominated for deletion and I was wondering if there would be anything I can do to improve it so it doesn't get deleted --ProudAmerican1776 (talk) 18:19, December 9, 2012 (UTC)Proud1776

Question
Hey, I was looking through the Doomsday articles, and noticed that many of the nations such as Japan and Korea, and most of the port-war American nations, were sitting on top of or around sites that were nuked. Is this allowed? If so, could I base my nation around such areas, or provide some details as to how they survived (such as Japan and Israel shooting down many of the missiles)? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 20:48, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Doomsday advice
Hey LG, I was wondering if I could get your advice on how I should bring up a suggestion in the Doomsday timeline (since the talk page looks quite complicated). I wanted to bring up a proposal I have been meaning to bring to the tables for a long time now, but I would also like to get your two cents on the matter before I go any further.

I do not know if you recall this idea I brought up in the discussions of ' and ', but I have been pondering the idea of the Outer Lands being divided between and a Long Island/Block Island state. I am aware that I will have to bring this up with the respective users who are the admins the articles in question, but I would like to get a second opinion on this issue, and whether (site wise) this could be looked into. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:30, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * No need to worry, I completely understand. I need to get my act together as well (haven't been shopping yet). Anyway, I am glad that you approve the idea. However, you got it wrong. What I wanted to do is have Cape Cod, Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket join Plymouth, with Long Island and Block Island becoming their own union (in affect, ending the Outer Lands). Not too sure what you would think of this.


 * I plan on informing the user in question in due time. I agree that Arstar would probably not refuse, but the other two I am not too sure of. I came across an old discussion on this same matter from years back, and Brian said he was supportive of this idea. I will ask again to be sure he still feels this way, but I believe this may work. Thank you again. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:27, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

So, another bad idea, eh? Well, it doesn't matter to much. However, why can't this be an issue that was already resolved? Why does it have to be a contemporary process in the timeline? If that is the case, then I honestly see no point in looking into this idea any further, and just keep the things the way they are. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 21:58, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: Just wanting to see this possibility. How would around the late '90s sound for Cape Cod peacefully leaving the Outer Lands in favor of a union with Plymouth. This could also correspond nicely with the date that Plymouth becomes a Commonwealth. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:36, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you again. Also, by "down the toilet," I was referring to my Long Island idea. Was rather interested in me having a Long Island being alone (with Block Island being a bonus), and allow Arstar to have his initial proposal in the process. But after more thinking, I do realize that just having them divide would be a waste of a great idea. They all have too many similarities to just divide, and historically; Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket were part of New York (but not Block Island for some reason). Also, I would believe that as an added bonus, Long Island would develop as the dominant member, especially if Cape Cod leaves.


 * As for a date, I would assume that 2008/9 may work out. I would hope this develops peacefully. I will have to work on the timeline a bit, but I will need to bring this up at the main talk page pretty soon. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:24, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you again. Also, I read your comment on the talk page for the OTL. I had no idea that there was an attack on Cape Cod. Aside from affecting the population (among other things), wouldn't this also make a wasteland between them and Plymouth? In short, would a unity movement be possible if this is the case? Also, why did you duplicate my map? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:51, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

So there are different types of attacks? Not too sure I see that. Granted, it could be argued that Otis only received one strike (as opposed to NYC), and that the wind direction at the time (southwest IIRC); but an attack is still an attack. Even a small one seems like it would have cut off Cape Cod and Plymouth for decades (as you stated before), and it appears that Cape Cod would be much smaller because of which.

Also, I have been having second thoughts about giving up Cape Cod, and am actually looking forward to just having it remain in the union. I have also brought this up with Brian, but maybe you know as well. I am just curious, do you guys remember why Plymouth got Provincetown?

So the map was made by the site? I guess that make some sense. However, I have been trying to remove duplicates from the site, and this upsets me (especially since it is a map I made). How long do you intend to have it remain here? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:52, December 20, 2012 (UTC)




 * I guess that makes sense. But given the clusterfuck that thee Soviets gave NYC, you can't blame me for thinking that the attack on Otis would be a bit larger.


 * I made a quick map showing the attacked area. It still feels like that the area west of Barnstable (the town) would be "off limits" for quite a while after DD (which is what I meant by it would be a long while to ignore any type of unification).


 * I figured as much about Provincetown. I just wanted to be sure there was a reason and not that it was an area Astarpool forgot to remove.


 * No need to worry, just wanted to check. I will remove in time. Yes, it is about done (or as done as it can get), and I do appreciate it that you would select it (now I need to get back towards that timeline).


 * Also, you recently reverted some of my edits over a template. Mind if I ask why? --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 04:28, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much. That simulator site is very interesting. However, which type of bombs were used?

I would like to add that there is no difference between those templates. Secondly, I do not really wish to have a huge template on the page which only states that it is a stub. It all leads to the same category. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 16:34, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the size. That map-site is really cool (can't wait to really have fun with it). However, I think using the Tsar Bomba on Otis would be interesting (lol).


 * No need to worry about it. I just find it funny how confused your reactions were to them.


 * I believe that is all I have on the Outer Lands so far (I plan on making a new map sometime soon). Now I am getting interested in another idea I have been contemplating for the past couple of days. I do warn you that this is a topic that I am passionate about (regardless of it being usable on this timeline), so if this is another case of me being too optimistic (which I really hope I am not), please be gentle about telling me. But given the timeline idea I have, and the interaction of the nations around the Outer Lands, I do believe that is is plausible. I would like to get your opinion on the issue before I go any further.


 * It involves the Shoreham Nuclear Plant on Long Island, and it being used to power Long Island. Aside from the cliche of using nuclear power after Doomsday, I do believe this is usable and workable for this timeline. I would love to get your opinion (though I am not too sure about your stances towards nuclear power). ^^; --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 05:38, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Now that is quite a site to see. Just off the top of my head, I thought of an interesting timeline idea. The POD is that the world actually ended on December 21, 2012. Imagine the possibilities. XD

I am glad that this idea is workable. Like I said before, I am rather passionate about this plant (I even went there a while back), so I am very happy I can include it. Off topic (somewhat), I came across an alternate history about the Shoreham plant, but it was stupid and meant to be funny.

But interesting that you said the world was becoming more nuclear. Now that might be an interesting article to add to the timeline, how nuclear power has become despite the world being doomed by their big brothers. Again, thank you. I may start the article tomorrow, at which time I will bring it up on the talk page. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 07:16, December 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you again. I guess what I meant about "increased use" is an overstatement, but you explained it pretty well yourself. I had no idea how elaborate nuclear power was in this timeline, and how "rushed" they are (as you said). This would make an interesting article. Also, I will be writing a report about a user who has been ignoring my messages. Just giving you a heads up. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:46, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

DD
I was looking at Anhui and Henan, as I was checking out the list of nuked cities in China, and Henan's capital city of Zhengzhou was the only one in the two states was that hit, and there was only one nation in the area, the Dragon Empire. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 22:22, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Okay then, I'll keep looking around then. Still can find any open areas, and I'm still surprised that every tiny little island has been called. I don't even know how that was possible. :/ Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 18:13, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Project Agawin: saving Fire Wiki
I have come across a wiki that is in desperate need of a major clean and reboot. None of the Admins have been active for some time. The wiki is all but dead. I have tried contacting Wika to request full rights as an admin and maybe even adopt it (If that is possible) but have not been answered. Could you provide a contact who will reliably answer?

Thank you,

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 13:34, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Stirlings 2013
Skimming through the Stirlings shows me that we're facing somewhat of a lack of nominations in comparison to last year. Is this something normal or this is somwhat out of order?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:19, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

I did two or three. I haven't looked over the page yet, but my hunch says that you've nominated a couple as well.

I'll see if there's anything or anyone else I could nominate to get the bal rolling.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 05:14, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline Adoption & Deletion
I would llike to use big portions of this TL:

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Japanese_Victory_at_Midway

in my adopted "Japanese Victory TL". Can you delete this TL:

http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Japanese_Victory_at_Midway

As I have copied down what I need from it

Vexacus (talk) 15:17, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Can anyone nominate for the Stirling Awards?AP (talk) 05:17, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks alot man. I think I'll check out Spain first. And thanks about that other part too. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 17:02, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I've settled on developing a nation in the Congo, i.e., the areas of both the DR Congo and Republic of the Congo not taken by any canon nations already. That or the Ivory Coast and Ghana. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 00:48, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

User talk:King Charles V
I have replyed to your comment on his talk page.Steam-man (talk) 01:31, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I was eyeing the provinces of and  since I haven't found any articles about them yet. As for Angola and the West African nations, I'll check them out. Thanks again. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 03:43, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

hello
i got a blog i woild like to delite, it's allready been taged to be delited. can you take care of it for me?

Wingman1 05:01, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

A Darker Place
um i need a name for the new world in my tl i cant keep referring to it as the nw. Nk

Hey, here is my entry for DD, Tshuapa. I cut out that piece of land belonging to Isiro, so the claims should not conflict with any of the surrounding nations. Also, given that Katanga and Zaire are both stubs, would be possible (canon-speaking), for me to invade/annex them? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 02:20, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Possible city-states in central Michigan
Hey LG. I was wondering if there's a possibility of a surviving city-state in central Michigan?

Hello
Well, I'm here! I looked at the DD map and many areas now seem to be occupied or have larger nations. I was wondering if the invasion plan is still on? It seems like the world is right now distracted by things going on in their home territories and things, and the SAC seems to be dormant. So shall we strike? Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:57, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, yeah I'll archive it. In the new year, ok.

I have been adding little things in the UIP page, care to check over them and give me suggessions? :D  Imp (Say Hi?!) 10:46, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Katanga, Isiro, Kivu, and Zaire were the only nations in the Congo. :( Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:56, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Really? Well thank you. I'd like to base it in region of the Congo if possible. Thanks. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 18:55, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Vietnam (1983: Doomsday)
I've got an idea for Vietnam in Doomsday. What if Chinese refugees establish a Chinese dominated People's Republic of Tonkin in the north, where much of the Vietnamese communists go. This allows the re-democratized Vietnam to focus their attention to the south, and eventually defeat the unpopular PRT. What do you think? Yank 23:44, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Nunavut (1983:Doomsday)
Is their anything on what the people in Nunavut did? I've tried to join the game before but can't find some open land that would fit into the time line. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:36, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Just letting you know
Happy Holidays, LG. I am just giving you another heads up. I am allowing Breizhcatalonia1993 to edit the  page in New Union. He mentioned to me that you were giving him a hard time about this (thought I haven't seen you guys talking recently, so I have no idea what he really means). But anyway, just letting you know. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 17:14, December 25, 2012 (UTC)