Hot Cold War (Map Game)

Welcome to the Hot Cold War Map Game. I noticed that there were Civil War, World War 2, and other types of map games but I noticed there was one type missing. World War 3.

Rules
1. You may control 2 nations, one a major power, one a minor. You Must Post for Both though and they must be on the same side or one nutral.

2. Be plausable, The Soviet Union will not become Democratic.

3. No new countries with nukes, including puppet states.

4. 4 Seasons, a season a day

5. You can not start as a First or Second World Secceding Nation

6. There is a UN with resolutions and stuff here.

7. Someone can be the mapmaker, he becomes mod.

8. New turns start at 00:00:01 UTC.

9. If you are getting screwed and you have nukes, you MAY do a nucular attack but nations that you nuke with nuke WILL retaliate.

10. I'll play as a minor country so I don't godmod.

11. No switching from NATO to Warsaw Pact unless you are liberated. You may though join an alliance if you are un-aligned.

12. There will be a World War 3 in 1990

13. Game starts in 1985.

14.If you are a major player and you are inactive for 3 days without consulting me(Swollow), you are going to be replaced.

15. Game will start on January 31st.

16. We will have a algorithem.

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: normal;">17. I am head mod.

<p style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: normal;">18.Mods can create national unrest or natural disasters. Mods can also control NPC responses to alliances.

Announcements
Anyone want to be mapmaker. They will automatically become a mod. Swollow 00:47, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

I can, I'm good at making maps. Enclavehunter 00:48, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Good, you are now a mod. Can you find a map and put on player countries? Swollow 01:15, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Enclavehunter 01:18, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

How's it look. Sorry, can you fit it in. Enclavehunter 01:30, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. Swollow 02:17, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

May I also be a mapmaker? I am also good at making maps. PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:11, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

You Can Help and you are now a mod. Swollow 03:25, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

NATO-
United States-Enclavehunter 20:34, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Canada-Wegscuba 23:51, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

United Kingdom- DeanSims 20:37, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

France- RandomWriterGuy 22:32, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Spain-

Italy-

West Germany- DeanSims 20:36, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Portugal-

Netherlands-

Norway-

Turkey- Visvamba 12:42, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Greece-

Belgium-

U.S Allies-
Australia-

Japan-

South Korea-

ROC-

New Zealand-

Warsaw Pact-
Soviet Union-TacoCopper 20:32, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Poland-

East Germany- Monster Pumpkin 01:13, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Czechoslovakia-

Romania-

Hungary-

Bulgaria-

Albania-

South Korea- PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:00, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yugoslavia(Not allied to Warsaw but Commumist)-

Cuba(Allies with Soviets)- Edwardx (4 ~)

Sino-Sphere
China(PRC)- octiman10 16:38, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

North Korea-Swollow

Vietnam-

Laos-

Neutral(Add countries that you want that are neutral)-
India-JonAllenMichael

Switzerland-

Saudi Arabia-

Mexico-Enclavehunter 20:33, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Austria- Monster Pumpkin 01:13, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Mods-
Put your name down if you want to be a mod, a * means your approved and a line means no.

*Swollow


 * Enclavehunter


 * Flag_of_South_Korea.png PitaKang- (Talk | Contribs) 01:24, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

<span class="mw-headline" id="Current_Map" style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; ">Current Map
{C} Disputes-

Mapmaker becomes Mod,

1985 Winter(January 31st)
Canada: starts working on nukes

Soviet Union: Mikhail Gorbachev is sworn into office. He becomes General Secretary of the Communist party. He begins to work on the space program to help improve it. He also sends aid to India to help them "consider" their options. The USSR also begins to build up a new breed of tanks T-85 comes out with better armor and better ammo. Reform is proposed, but key high officals of the Communist Party oppose it to stop it from being implented.
 * India accepts the aid

East Germany: Reforms for the industry and economic sectors are made, slightly improving the national economy. New tank and Helicopter designs are made. East Germany also requests that the Soviet Union place nuclear weapons in the country.

Austria: The government offers negotiations for extended cooperation between Austria, West Germany, and East Germany. Security along the Hungarian and Swiss borders are reduced.

United States: President Ronald Reagan is sworn into office. Reagan authorizes more funds into the space program. An new breed of tanks, M1A1, comes out with better armor, and can combat the USSR's T-85. Reagan deploys more troops to Guam.

Mexico: President Madrid declares neutrality in the Cold War, and does not oppose Communism, but doesn't support it. More funds are sent into the military to combat the increase Drug Cartels. Security along the US-Mexico Border is increased.

France proposes the EU, a nation made out of the anti-Communist states of Europe. They begin to increase the size of their military and upgrade it with the help of the US. They form the French Commonwealth Union-made out of countries formerly French colonies (except those aligned with the Communists) and hoepfully encourage economic and humantarian aid.

Cuba: work starts on a new type of submarine cappeble of carring SLBM

China: Deng Xiaoping is delcared supreme leader of the PRC. He entends relations to North Korea and The Soviet Union. The Military comes out with a new tank called the T-69.

North Korea:North Korea expands its military rapidaly. A new tank is reserched. Tenstions of the DLZ get worse. Kim Jong strenghen the goverments control over the country. North Korea ask to buy some modern aircraft from the Soviet Union.

<p style="margin-left: 40px">The Soviet Union agrees to sell some aircraft, and as a friendly gesture, they sell them at discount price.

India: India sends a delegation to the Soviet Union, in hopes that the Soviets will make another offer. India nationalizes part of it's private sector, and begins a large urbanization campaign.

Great Britain: The UK begins to mass produce nuclear missles and bombs for the missles. The UK withdraws from West Germany, granting its former occupation zones rule under the West German goverment. Britsh Berlin though is still occupied by British troops. UK troops begin to mass in the UK Sector of Berlin.

West Germany: W. Germany thanks the UK for withdrawing from W German territory, and it is suggested that both West Germany and the UK withdraw from their current alliances and form the Anglo-German Alliance.

UK Diplomacy: The UK agrees to the alliance propsal, and will leave its current NATO and other alliances except with those in the Britsh Commonwealth this summer.

1985 Spring
Canada:Keeps working on nukes

France continues to build up and upgrade its military, navy, and air force. They continue to promote the EU and French Commonwealth Union to combat the growing force of Communism. They begin to work on a joint space program with the US. They ask the US to cooperate in it.

East Germany: A new tank, the P1 Lynx, is mass produced and replaces the standard Soviet models as the main medium armor tank. A secret Nuclear arms program is created. The East German government offers new relations with West Germany while increasing security along the Polish Border.

Austria: The Austrian government holds a conference between Austrian and East German officials. West Germany is also invited. Issues include trade and general relations.

The USSR continues working on its space program, with plans to build to build a space station by the end of the year. The USSR also begins to mass produce more planes. They mainly focus on bombers, but also make some fighters to defend the bombers should they be needed.

Just saying, but by 1985 I'm sure the USSR's airforce would consist of nothing but jet engine aircraft.

'''Thank you. I'll guess I'll just make the airforce bigger than.'''

China: China mass produces it's new T-69 heavy tank and produce assault rifles similar to the AK-47. New fighter jets and bombers (for both conventional bombs and nuclear bombs). The navy is expanded, with new nuclear powered aircraft carriers, destroyers.and submarines. More nukes are built.Reforms are made to improve the economy. Farming, industrial, and military work is encouraged among the peoples of the PRC. China proposes an organization to rival NATO called the Communist Republics Alliance (CRA) to united the communist world. Offers to join are sent to the Soviet Union, East Germany, Cuba, and North Korea.

United States: The US continues to distrube forces among its allies. The US hopes of establishing better relations with the PRC and East Germany.


 * PRC Diplomacy: The PRC will be willing to open discussions with the US
 * US Diplomacy: Can an trade agreement between the two nations be established.
 * East German Diplomacy: East Germany would be willing to have better relations with the U.S.
 * US Diplomacy: US is willing to decrease its presence in West Germany, in exchange for an trade
 * agreement.
 * East German Diplomacy: East Germany accepts.
 * West Germany: Asks if the USA and France can withdraw from West Germany.
 * The UK: The UK agrees to support West Germany on this matter.

Mexico: Security is increased, and the government continues to fight the drug cartels.

North Korea expands its military and tenstions on the Korean Penninsula gets worse. North Korea tells China to join the Warsaw Pact instead in order to also include Eastern Europe. North Korea ask the Soviet Union to join the Warsaw Pact. North Korea ask to buy Chinas Ak-47 like guns. A space program is reserched.


 * PRC Diplomacy: In order to better relations, offers to sell North Korea, the assault rifles at a discounted price.

India: India requests AK-74's from the USSR as a stop gap until they can develop their own domestic rifles. They expand their military via conscription, and further nationalize the economy.

Great Britain: The UK continues to mass produce nuclear weapons and missles as well as nuclear submarines. Several satelites are launched into Space with nuclear missles attached to them. The UK begins building the HMS Angloria, which is to be the first Britsh Space Shuttle and it si planned to land 5 astronaughts on the moon with two being woman. West Germany is offered a deal that will allow 3 West Germans to go on the shuttle to the moon as well. Secretly, 3 nuclear bombs will be in the Angloria's shuttle bay.

West Germany: West Germany accepts the UK's space shuttle offer. West Germany begins to mass produce the latest Panzer Tank, the King Tiger V. Plans for this awesome weapon are given to Great Britain as a gift. West Germany withdraws from all current alliances it has except for that with the UK.

1985 Summer

 * Cuba starts work on a new type of non-nuker weapons for there new submarines and asks to join the Warsaw Pact (hay who moved my spring entry)


 * France continues to build up, expand, and upgrade its army, navy, and air force. They allow talks with East Germany with France. They tell East Germany they will have economic aid from France if it transits to democracy. The French Commonwealth Union is officially, established, containing all nations once under French rule (except those that have become Communist).
 * East German Diplomacy: The government proposes some changes, such as the removal of the secret government police (the Stasi), and encorporating limited economic freedoms.


 * France praises the efforts, but also calls for basic freedoms, uncensored media, revealing corruption.
 * USSR: The USSR keeps expanding its airforce. It also continues it's plans for a space station, with the components to be sent up to be assembled in space by the end of the year. Also, better rockets are researched, with hopes for a rocket that can travel longer at a fraction of the cost in fuel.
 * East Germany: The government launches its first communications satellite as part of a secret space program. East Germany proposes that East Germany and the USSR work together on a joint space program.
 * The USSR agrees, and will have some Germans to be on the missions to the Space Station.
 * Austria: Austria buys several P1 Lynx tanks from East Germany and also askes to purchase several helicopters from the United States.


 * American Diplomacy: Which type of helicopter: Black Hawks, Chinooks, Sea Stallions, or Hueys.
 * Austian Diplomacy: Black Hawks would be nice.
 * American Diplomacy: Seven Black Hawks are on their way.


 * United States: The US begins to bring troops home from West Germany, but not alot, just enough to keep its deal with East Germany open. Security is put on the Mexico-American Border, while Florida is armed in the threat of Cuba.


 * Cuba: Castro dies in a car accident death is mourned across the communist world Raúl Castro takes charge


 * Mexico: Oil depostits are found in the Gulf of Mexico, and the government sent the military to secure it.
 * China: China expands it's military. Anti-ICBM defenses are researched. China starts it's own space program.


 * South Korea: Seeing North Korea's military expansion, the military is put on DefCon 3, and reserves are mobilized. Meanwhile, they request the positioning of the US 7th Fleet in the East Sea (Sea of Japan), and begin to triple border patrols on the border. They also request to buy 3 wings of F-16 Fighting Falcons, equipped with All-Weather fighting systems. (Night is a weather in the US Air Force). They also request the US to send several AH-64 Apaches, as well as 6 more divisions of US soldiers in order to deter a North Korean attack.
 * American Diplomacy: The US 7th Fleet is deployed to Pusan, and the request of South Korea are granted.
 * What Country are you playing as ?
 * Remember China, Chinese-USSR relations were pretty much crap back then. In case of WWIII, China and Russia would not be on the same team. Also, the Chinese didn't have the money back then to mass-produce nukes. Even now, they only have 10ish ICBMs, and 10 sub nukes. The rest of the 100 or so are bomber launched ones, and they don't have the range to reach the USA. Russia, maybe.
 * Ok, thanks for the advice.
 * North Korea builds up its military on the Korean Penninsula. North Korea ask for Chiniese help. A space program is reseched. Battleships are built(weak ones) and placed on the South Korean Border. North Korea warns the South that invastion will be met with force from the Warsaw Pact and the other way NATO. The Chiniese AK-47 are givin to troops.
 * Great Britain: Construction on the HMS Angloria continues, with the 3 West Germans arrivng in London in early June. Mass production of nuclear weapons continues. The UK launches more nulcear missles in their satelites to orbit Earth, although the satelites are still not much more than intelligence satelites with the missles strapped to there sides. The UK begins to cut its alliances by withdrawing from NATo and asking for Non-Agression Pacts with the Warsaw Pact Nations. The UK asks NATO and the Warsaw Pact to allow the UK to be completley neutral in any NATO-Warsaw Pact conflict, if attacked, the UK will respond to either sidek, if needed, with nuclear weapons. The UK secretly gives plans for nuclear bombs and the latst missles to West Germany. Mass production of the King Tiger V Panzer begins and West Germany is thanked for there designs.
 * West Germany: W Germany thanks the UK for the bomb and missle plans, and production of nucelar bombs and missles to carry them begins at once. Mass production of the King Tiger V Panzer continues.
 * India: Protests begin to erupt against the current regime against nationalizing industries, and with Russia not communicating with India, the government's bid to make new allies falls through. As pressure is put on the parliament, they delcare that a new round of elections will be held in 3 months.
 * UK Diplomacy: India is offered an alliance as well as plans for the King Tiger V Panzer.
 * W German Diplomacy: India is also offered an alliance.
 * Indian Diplomacy: will accept plans for the King Tiger V Panzer, and after the elections in the Fall will accept both Alliances.

1985 Fall
Canada: Keeps working on Nukes

France continues to build up, expand, and upgrade its army. It also begins to build its own nukes. The French ask the Brazilians for an alliance and trade agreements.

USSR: The USSR keeps expanding it's airforce, and the Space Station is nearing completion. They ask China to join the joint space program, and inform them that relations between the two should be improved. Research on rockets and space shuttles continues, with goals of being able to travel with less fuel and carry more continued. They also ask Cuba if they want troops there to protect against possible U.S invasion.
 * East German Diplomacy: East Germany requests more Soviet soldiers be placed near Berlin as East Germany is afraid of NATO or Anglo-German ambitions.
 * UK Diplomacy: The UK promises that East Germany will not be harmed, and asks both East and West Germany to consider reuniting, starting with Berlin. E Germany is asked if 3 Astronaughts would like to go to the moon on the Angloria with 3 WestGermans and 5 Britsh Astronaughts.
 * Just saying, it is impossible for space shuttles to land on the moon. You would need some other kind of spacecraft.
 * This space shuttle drops a large landing module while the shuttle orbits the moon and sets upa few satelites to orbit the moon.
 * Okay, that would work.
 * W German Diplomacy: West Germany would like to reunite with East Germany, but it would have to have a compromise goverment and Germany would not have any military alliances besides that with the UK, which is at this time no longer a ember of NATO.
 * East German Diplomacy: East Germany would support reunification, but states that no alliances are unacceptable.
 * West German Diplomacy: W Germany doesnt want to be a communist dictatorship, but a republic with 4 partys in it: the Communists, Socialsits, Social Democrats, and Republicans. W Germany asks if a compromise can be made.

East Germany: Plans for a new satellite and a new assualt rifle are made. Security is increased along the German Border.

Austria: Communist sympathizers stage a protest in Vienna. When riot police attempt to remove them, the protest turns violent and 25 people are imjured.

China: The PRC will gladly work on a joint space program with the USSR and agree that relations should improve. China offers North Korea to place troops and tanks in their country, to help them in the event of war from the south. Research continues on rockets, satellites and nuclear weapons. The PRC endorses the communists in Austria.

cuba: as his first act as leader raul increeses troops in Ethiopia and grees with the sovet troops in cuba

Great Britain: The UK continues to mass produce nuclear bombs, missles, and submarines. The HMS Angloria, which has been under construction around the clock for some time now, is set to launch this winter from an undisclosed location. Mass production of the King Tiger V Panzer continues.

West Germany: W Germany asks for friendlier relations with East Germany, as their divsion was never voluntary. A trade and free/open border policy is offered along with the promise that any East Germans trying to leave W Germany without East German permission will be returned to E Germany. The offer of returning E Germns is to help make friendship between the two Germans become real, and not because W Germany is scared of the Soviet Armies. West Germany continues to produce nuclear bombs and missles.
 * East German Diplomacy: East Germany accepts the offer, but stats its concern of an Anglo-German alliance.
 * W German Diplomacy: West Germany states that the UK will abide by the same rules if East Germans can also visit the UK. W Germany offers a non-agression pact to E Germany.
 * UK Diplomacy: The UK agrees to abide by the same rules as W Germany concerning E German citizens traveling to the UK as to E Germans visting W Germany. A non-agression pact is offered to E Germany to ensure that the trus will not be broken.

United States: More troops are sent to South Korea and its other Asian allies, while anti-missle systems are placed ontop of the tallest building in the major cities. Research on an new-class of carriers begins.

Mexico: Mexico continues to put up security along the border, and fighting off the drug cartels in its lands.

India: The Indian National Congress retakes power in the elections in the Fall, and resumes its dominant political position. This begins a steady removal of influence from the USSR on Indian politics. Indian begins building the licensed King Tiger V Panzer tanks from West Germany.