Board Thread:Timeline Disscussions/@comment-32656-20121219042849/@comment-32656-20140222093112

Yes, Superior did "start" in Michigan, and both most of its population and territory are from that former stated. The two are, in most ways, one and the same.

Lansing, no way. That area has been virtually depopulated, as well as refugees and some radiation, with the region going over to bandits, gangs, and clans. As for the governor and state government, they fled the capital at some point, and were never heard from again. Died out there somewhere. Today, Lansing is on the edge of Toledo-controlled land.

And before you ask, there is no chance of the former state government being out there somewhere, or another state existing in Michigan. Whole thing has been explored pretty thoroughly. Going theory I have for the ex-government, fyi, is that they froze to death somewhere out there. By now, you'd never find the bodies.

As for the concept of it joining the new USA, even if there was support - there is not - it's not possible. There is a ton of distance between the two, and a few nations.

In nuked countries, the largest city to survive was Berlin. Would have been something in Japan, probably, but... what happened there right after DD kind of killed that idea. In the overall world, somewhere in India, Mexico, or Brazil.

Not sure what the point there would be, Bfo. Would be no different than the 2010 data already up on the cities article.

Map is not outdated, Spartian. You just need to bother to look at it, and then check local articles. Maps cannot say everything.

...Really, Rex?

"Chalk it up" means what you can basically blame it on. If you look at the image history, you'd note that the last two images uploaded are identical. Should not be the case, and a quick look at my files shows that it is not.

There is a problem with wikia images from time to time where uploading a new version of an image, the new one simply doesn't change the image. This is a classic case.

As for your "qualifications" remark, that's just insulting.

Spartian, that you keep trying to propose nations in obvious nuked areas, where ones are already (and clearly marked on the map at that), or ones that are nonsensical in general, is solely your own fault. Got nothing to do with anything being "outdated."

Washington DC and its environs were plastered on DD. Nothing left by it. Anything habitable and/or non-radiated by this point - which has been a change from after-DD, when nothing was - is under Virginia or Delmarva.