Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-110.20.227.171-20141127105940/@comment-4621372-20141130001839

Imperium Guy wrote: Guns, you have absolutely no idea of the tanks the Russians did have. Ever heard of the IS-2 or IS-3? The 88mm Tiger II gun was completely outclassed by the IS-2's 122mm. The Soviets had a effective heavy tank first, and in numbers which would have left the Tigers and Panthers lying on the field as burning wreckage. Their T-34/85s were enough, however, so that they didn't really need to deviate much to produce better tanks.

Admittedly, the Tigers had better armour, but IS guns could penetrate their armour. The Panther was good, but not mass produced or as good as it needed to be to stem the tide. Doesn't matter, cause a Tiger could penetrate IS armor as well. 1v1, depends which was commanded better- and the Germans were trained WAAYYYY better.

Soooo... exactly what I said, then? Panthers were the best, but there weren't even CLOSE to enough.