User talk:Red VS Blue

Superpowers Timeline
If anyone has comments or additions they would like to make in regards to my Superpowers ATL, they can be directed here. Red_VS_Blue 11:34, 8 November 2009

Proposition
First I'd like to thank you for your kind words. I was so scared it was going to undo one of your edits to the TL, and there goes our friendly messaging :)
 * But yes, yes, yes, I'd love to help you. I was going to ask you if I could make a page for Achaea, but it's better you asked me first! I just have to finish up my Spanish studies and dinner is on its way, but I'm here and ready.

John, aka Mr.Xeight 00:00, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Flag
Oh, Red, you've truly outdone yourself a million times over! Your flag is absolutely great, if I were an alternate-Earth Roman citizen I'd be proud to say that is my flag! Mr.Xeight 16:43, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Why thank you :) I'm glad it was worth the hours of work I put into it. Though I'm very grateful for your idea of integrating the Palaiologos into the design, the plain eagle I had before that was bothering me haha. Anyway, how's your ideas for the Achaea page going :)

Oh, I was also wondering if I could have your opinion on the verisimilitude of my new geopolitical goals page, I'm still wondering if it's a worthwhile addition to the timeline.

Thank you once again! :) Red VS Blue 16:54, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, Achaea. I was thinking of somehow stopping any sort of Grecian Revolt, that way Greece wouldn't lose favor in the eyes of Rome and would continue to grow. Then Greek history would parallel Byzantine history; until Mankizert. Now the Greeks would have lierally all of Europe to defend its borders, the Seljuk Empire would be reduced to a shadow of itself, and the Greek provinces would continue to grow and thrive. Eventually Greek businessmen would hightail it to the New World in order to make some big bucks (well aureui), bringing Greek peasants as debt slaves and regular slaves as well, real slaves. The Greek merchants' business in their homeland might be replaced by other business from across the Empire, so there might be more of a cultural blend, but I doubt no more than Greece's population in our world, 99% Greek, 1% something else :D


 * And I read your Geopolitics page, and it gave me a hige insight, especially on how sinister Japan was, and still is. Just a question; how did Japan get to annex Cuba, and why did Roman (the clear ruler of the Caribbean) allow it?

Mr.Xeight 04:40, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Mm yes, I did write a Grecian Revolt in the Timeline, at the time I figured that Greece would be a very independent province and was rather likely to attempt a large rebellion. I can retcon it out, I was planning on adding a more precise timeline soon, so it's good you mentioned that now, or else I'd have to delete a bunch of paragraphs haha. I completely agree that the Greek province should dominate Mediterranean business, and Asian business due to proximity to the Suez and the Black Sea, and of course their connection to the sea would deeefinitely lead to colonizing the New World by Greeks. As for the ethnic percentages of Greece, I figured it would constitute a Roman-Greek and pure Greek blend. The Romans would definitely attempt to "colonize" one of their most prosperous regions, i.e. Greece. I just imagine that the Romans would be pretty extensive in their taking over of lands, much worse than OTL European colonists. That's just some food for thought anyway.


 * Hahaha yes well Japan needs that outlook just to have been able to survive being neighbors to the mighty Mongols. The Japanese got Cuba at the end of the Cubaguan Civil War in the 60's. Rome would allow them to have it as they wouldn't want to carry up the immense cost of integrating it into the Empire, especially after the island's capital was devastated by a nuke. The Japanese obviously would want it to create more living space for their crowded population and to move into the American (well Columbian :P) markets on the Atlantic side.

I do enjoy proving the plausibility of my timeline, so if you find anything else which seems a bit off, or wrong, please ask about it :) It's a big help to the timeline. Red VS Blue 02:11, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I am so sorry I did not respond to your question earlier, a terriblebout of melancholy and sloth has set into me, I can't do much of anything for more than a minute lately. :(
 * I like what you have on Greece, though for me to ask for you to remove a Greek Revolt would be against the Alternate-Historian's Code of Honor, I do not mean to move in and establish a Helleni-wank Timeline. Besides my sibconscious nationalism peaking through my alt-history writer exterior, we work well IMO. Would you care to work on a timeline with me? I've been trying to get some partners for my "Genghis Khan Who?" Timeline. It's about East-Asian powers colonizing the world themselves, and eventually (just like in RL) the Rise of Europe. However, us stuffy Europeans have more competition, and when our colonization of the world starts, we find some very pertrbed Asians who don't particularly want competition. I'd like to stress we'd be equals in the timeline, nothing gets added without the other, no one has the final-say, we simply negotiate and finetune the oth person's work. What do you say? :D

Mr.Xeight 02:53, January 3, 2010 (UTC) Mr.Xeight 02:53, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

I just posted some ideas about Genghis Khan Who?, I'm about to move them to the AH's page. Feel free to criticize when you see it :) Mr.Xeight 23:40, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for cleaning that up. For some reason I always get the message that anything before the last edit is too old to revert. But thanks again! I thought about the AH, and I believe my old work to be too ASBish. I'd like to have a clean slate on the AH and us three work together on it, you're not getting off the hook on this one :) Just kidding, John Mr.Xeight 22:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, no problem. You're lucky I just happened to get on right then and there :P

Ok, sounds like a plan then. I'm a little bit busy in general, but I'll try to get on when I can, check out what's new, and offer my own input. I can't imagine it'll be too taxing. Red VS Blue 22:45, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Help?
Hey, would you like to help me create at least one article for my time-line? I currently need the articles of the four battles of the First Silk War (XI: Serica & Romanum) done... would you please help? Main details of the battles can be found on the First Silk War page as well. If you accept, please put the conflict infobox templates in the articles as well. At least one article would be helpful. Tinier details of the battles are up to you. Are you knowledgeable about Russian history and culture, by the way?

Well alright, as long as it has a good structure. I can pay you back by making an article for you on the next vacation.

And yes, the overall war article is complete. You can comment on it and suggest changes if you like, as we are partners.

Superpowers
I just had a little too much free time when I was wandering around Althistory Wiki, and I suddenly stumbled upon your Time-line. I read parts of it, I noticed there was something not quite right. Gunpowder was not discovered from rocks, it was (and still is) made with sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate, and sometimes with honey. Besides that, it's nice.Kagemoto vi Brooklyn 22:04, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * haha As might be noticed, to an ancient person, those look like rocks. Ya, at the time I wasn't going to put that, but I figured it would be weird if I said that an ancient mesoamerican was experimenting with solid materials, rocks just flowed nicely (figuratively flowing of course :P) I'm glad to see you like my timeline, and if you notice anything else that seems not quite right, feel free to ask :) I'm working on improving it and constructive criticism goes a long way to that end. Red VS Blue 22:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Your war articles are amazing! Well, perhaps I can help you with some articles over the weekend... any suggestions? 1/14 is my birthday, so I expect the teachers to be nice to me and give me less homework (the chances are slim to none though...). You're very talented, we can reach the stars together (or something like that, I'm not very good with idioms).Kagemoto vi Brooklyn 03:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Does slavery in this timeline exist to this day? If so, are Africans (African-Americans) enslaved? --Catherine 00:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't see your comment earlier Kagemoto. Though if you ever have any ideas that would work well with my timeline, feel free to put them forward. Either on an article talk page specifically, or right here on my own discussion page.

Catherine, you can read more about the status of slavery in my timeline here Geopolitics. It does still exist, but is on a decline due to economic factors. Also, they would be Africans (Africanus in Latin), African-American is the "politically correct" term used by the media. It certainly doesn't apply to Africans living in Europe in a timeline with no America.

How did you go about finding the kmsq. areas for your nations?--TEAKAY 11:16, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia and an hour with a calculator =P

Seriously though, I just made sure my maps were along a rough outline of OTL borders then I added every nation's km sq area within those borders. Red VS Blue 11:27, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, what I try to do is about as accurate/effective/efficient except replace wikipedia with autocad and hours with calculator with hours of drawing polylines XP--TEAKAY 11:15, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Woah, you use software to do it? Is autocad easier to use than photoshop? I got that like you'd recommended but I've never really gotten the hang of it lol Red VS Blue 11:24, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh uh I use the autocad just to try to find the areas, I use photoshop to make the maps and try to import the picture to autocad (they sometimes just don't work) and then I use a poly line on a small island and try to find a scaling ratio and then put polyine on all the borders but it's "oh my god this is taking forever and there's no magnetic lasso in autocad" DX and because of the projections of the maps I have no real idea how accurate the numbers are 6_6;;--TEAKAY 13:27, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

haha That's sounds pretty intense, I'd wager that the numbers are pretty spot on if you went through all of that. Even my numbers are probably only accurate to the 1,000's of kilometers, not even that I'd bet. You've got nothing to worry about =)

So how's your timeline been going? You seem to just be sorta on and off here lately lol =P Red VS Blue 01:27, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Heh I'm again concentrating on a rework of the main maps but I hate working on small sizes so it's like 5x3 metres 680mb (after I had cut out sub-Sahara Africa) with a bazillion layers and man I don't have the RAM I'm supposed to so it takes five minutes to open the file if it doesn't fail and say there isn't enough virtual memory and if I shut down everything else, which isn't practical because I need other webpages and documents to reference, and it takes another five minutes to save it even if it's only to the desktop (because I got all these back ups everywhere :S) and it's like it takes forty seconds for it just to register a line draw. AND the pages of what has to be done just keep piling up while months go by trying to get the patience to put into the map, and it's not even awesome stuff going in right now it's just tedium-detail but I am no way going to shrink it any more.


 * Yes I know I hardly do anything here these days other than look at my watchlist. The general layout of the timeline up to the late 1800's is pretty certain on the word document but I'm really thinking that I can't put it all here because once the aliens start showing up everyone's going to be like "UPBUPBUPBUP, what is this?" None of them look like bats.


 * And finally I have to say I'm avoiding reading much of your timeline because I really don't want to see similarities between our works(even though there are tremendous differences I know) because it will be like those two guys that both invented the parachute independently and I'll be like "Oh man did I really think that up or did I just steal it?" DX ... And I have to say your timeline also has intensity, in it's data detail and comprehension. Not like whoah, like whooooah. I'll be very honest and very blunt, your timeline makes me feel like a fool sometimes. Don't salve my ego please just accept it, if the Chaos timeline was about Rome it would belittle me just as much.--TEAKAY 02:12, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know, I understand completely where you're coming from (minus the aliens =P)


 * If you have stuff already written I say go for it. Everyone enjoys a well written story and you certainly deliver on that part (don't deny it sir, you are at the very least very prolific in your writing). Yours was the first timeline I read when I got to this site over a year ago and I will admit that it pushed me to start my own timeline. I haven't read it all (for exxxxactly the same reason as you've avoided mine) but what I've seen has impressed me.

You are the Edison to my Tesla (only because I love Tesla =P), we write on a similar subject (Romano-centric ATLs) and are both equals in that regard. So I'll stop the analogy there and encourage you to go through with what you have but haven't released. I only wish I could have gotten used to writing things out on word documents beforehand, all my articles are spur of the moment, and I often worry that what I'm writing is just contradicting something else or repeating something incessantly. Red VS Blue 03:00, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I've suddenly been informed that an easier way to measure areas than exporting to autocad is the use of the magic wand and such and then reading the histogram to find the number of pixels selected.--TEAKAY 11:52, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, what? You know I don't understand all that photoshop-speak =P Red VS Blue 12:50, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oops sorry I thought you were using photoshop, in photoshop there's the tools: magic wand, lasso, and marquee that select areas, and under the window menu there is the historgram that can be opened that shows some sort of graph related to colours in a selected area. There's a triangle with an exclamation mark in it and clicking this I guess takes all the colours of the selected area of the whole and under the graph it shows the number of selected pixels and other things.  Finding a scale ratio like I did in the AUTOCAD method changes the pixels to kmsq.--TEAKAY 20:03, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I did for a short while but its always been too complex for me, I just stick with good 'ole paint for now. How precise is that? I imagine if you get the scale ratio right that should be pretty spot-on eh? Red VS Blue 20:25, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is as long as the map projections aren't too warped :P--TEAKAY 11:07, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Superpowers is a featured TL
Congratulations, Superpowers is now a featured TL of the wiki. The portal page of the TL can now showcase the featured timeline template and the TL will also have a chance to show up on the main page of the wiki for an entire month. Before that can happen I need a short summary of the TL from you, plus any links or pics you want to appear with the summary. Featured TLs are chosen at random to appear on the main page, so I am not able to tell you right now when it will happen. Mitro 22:19, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hi there Mitro. I have a picture that you can use for the main page, it's just a map for my timeline in the year 2000, so it's not on any other page yet. Not that it matters. Anyway, I'll be typing up the written part later this week, probably...There's no hurry for it though, am I correct?

Red VS Blue 23:45, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah take your time. The next two months are spoken for so you have some time. Mitro 23:59, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Remember when I said there was no hurry? Well the random selector has picked Superpowers to show up on the main page for the month of June. So please get me that written summary asap or else I am going to have to write one myself. Mitro 14:25, April 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh damn. Okay well here goes =>

Superpowers

It is the year 2000. A millennia old Roman Empire continues to tighten its grip over all the continents, nearly complacent in its virtual shield of space technologies. The Japanese merchants control the seas and influence the world's markets to best serve their Emperor's interests. Meanwhile the once mighty Platonist Socialism movement is still burned into everyone's memory following the destruction caused by the latest World War only a decade ago. Though all is not necessarily moving towards the better. The vast Mongol World Empire is catching up to the Alliance of Earth in technology and seems ready to even fight and win, should a pitched battle ever be fought. This stalemate is only kept in check by the atomic weaponry pointed right at the heart of the Mongol empire.

This is the world of Superpowers. A detailed history going back almost two thousand years and covering three points of divergences across each major continent. Centuries of technological advancements from automatic crossbows, and 18th Century Radio, to kinetic space artillery and laser rifles have been made and three World Wars over three hundred years fought for reasons as varied as colonialism to socialism. Everything has changed in a world that is almost alien from our own Earth as is the Moon. Though I hear the Moon's a nice place to visit this time of the month...


 * Timeline
 * Nations
 * Geopolitics

Will you please take time to read the Russian Expansion Timeline. Please give me a paragraph-long section of what I could do to expand and improve it. --Catherine 15:12, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Japan in Superpowers
I would like to make the page for Japan in the Superpowers timeline. I was wondering if you would allow me to do this?Vegas adict 16:52, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thats fine, I would apreciate it if you made the japan page and i'l offer what sugestions i have after you'v set out your main ideas--Vegas adict 20:21, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have two questions for you before i start work on Japans navy. One, Did Yamamoto or someone like him exist in the TL or does the big gun doctrine prevail and Secondly did capital ship construction proceed in a similar way to OTL (Battleships being replaced by Dreadnoughts + Battlecruisers which are then replaced by Nuclear Submarines + Cariers)?Vegas adict 19:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yamamoto? Like Isoroku Yamamoto? He's too far from after Japan started to diverge from OTL. Japan is identical to OTL up until about 1279, maybe a little bit before. It remains similar though, except in certain ideologies, up till the 1700's when it really starts to diverge.

Here's a general timeline of weapons development, with the Japanese following a similar development to the Romans in naval technology. Capital ships remained the primary part of all navies and even remain so in 2000 AD. Aircraft carriers were invented in 1893, and used to a slight degree during the Second World War ATL. They really started to see use by the three main powers, especially the Japanese, by the 1940's and 50's. Nuclear Submarines never came into use by anyone other than the Inca (though the Japanese build some in the 70's). Also the general trend of naval warfare was just building bigger and bigger ships, if that helps to know. I'm very impressed with your questions by the way. You clearly know what you're talking about. Red VS Blue 21:20, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I will start the page tomorow but i just wanted to give you the basic idea before hand. With regards to tradition i envision it being similar to OTL Royal Navy (Very confident, disciplined and skilled).Strategicly i view them having three to four supercariers per ocean alongside several carriers that are similar to OTL Nimitz class , these would be backed up by groups of ships similar to OTL Battlecruisers which could intercept enamy vessels or those carrying illegal goods. as well as this they would have a battleship fleet in the home islands and several hundred flotilas of smaller ships would roam the seas. I suspect the nuclear subs would be used in this role as well. Hopefully this is ok with youVegas adict 22:01, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Very good! I assume that by Supercarrier you're referring to the Peninsula-Class that my Timeline mentions. In any case, it sounds like you have a very good idea of what you're doing, and I agree with everything you've said so far. So good luck to you, and I look forward to reading what you come up with. Red VS Blue 23:14, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'v finished most of the artical Nippon Kaigun (Superpowers) and i'd apreciate your thoughts on it, unfortunatly i have had to mention technology slightly as it is imposible not to when talking about how a navy adapts to it.Vegas adict 19:56, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh don't worry about it if you mentioned technology. As long as I can change those technology parts to better fit my idea of the timeline, then I don't mind what you add.

Oh my! That was quite an enjoyable read. It's clever, detailed and well thought-out, an amazing addition to my Timeline. I especially like how its tied in with the rest of my timeline, even the technological references are good. Job well done I'd say. Or is there more perhaps?

The little anecdotes are especially good, like the emperor's daughter one, as I think those are always a welcome addition to a timeline. I myself like to throw in that kind of thing frequently. Might I ask where you got the rank insignias? They remind of the British ones, just a bit though. Red VS Blue 21:12, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :) The rank insignias are that of the OTL IJN.The artical itself is finished but if there's any other navy articals or ones to do with japan that need Creating/updating and you havn't got the time yourself tell me as I'm more than happy to help out (mainly because superpowers is such a good TL).Vegas adict 21:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Anyways, for the moment everything is fine, I'll be less busy in another week so it'll be easier for me to work alongside people then. For now, if you just have any opinions or thoughts on pages in my timeline in general just bring them up, I'm always looking to improve it and I appreciate the value in what you might have to say about it. There is always something to improve! Red VS Blue 22:26, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I am asking for a Map
Hello, I am Calthrina950. I have heard you make maps. Can you please create or at least find a map of Europe in the year, 1200, that can be edited by others, almost like the maps on Europe 1430 (Map Game). I would really appericate it, since I want to develop a new map game. Thanks if you can! --Catherine 00:06, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Mongol Empire
I love this Timeline! It's very wonderful, but one thing I'm kinda annoyed at is that you spent so much work into all the Rome-Related articles, but not even one Mongol World Empire Article! I would recomend having small articles for all the nations, then getting into the kind of detail you got into with the Romans. Just a thought though.....Eastward Expansion 13:15, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * And a very good thought at that! It's true, Rome is my specialty and so I have the easiest time writing those articles, others are more slow going. It is true though, I should have made articles for the other countries, I haven't taken the time to do much research though sadly.

But! If you'll advise me on it, I could start the Mongol article now and get it up to Rome standards by the end of the month. I assume you know far more on the Mongols than I do, right? There's only so much general history books can tell me. Red VS Blue 13:24, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Right! The Mongol Empire happens to be one of my specialties! What would you like advise on? Eastward Expansion 14:23, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I find it interesting that the capital of your Mongol Empire is Temujin. I would have guessed that the capital would be the same as OTL Mongol empire (which would have been Karakorum). Also I noticed that you used the first Khan's (or Khagan's) real name for your capital. Interesting. Eastward Expansion 14:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Does that make sense? Would the Mongols honor their "founding father" like that? I figured that to better integrate themselves with the Chinese, they'd have a capital further into China. At the same time, I didn't think they'd use a Chinese capital, since that might cause some problems. Founding a new city made sense to me. Does that make sense? Or would it never have happened? Red VS Blue 14:45, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That does make a good idea. Eastward Expansion 15:12, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Say why don't you have a religion under religion for the Mongols? And what religion would you chose, I mean various Mongols have been Muslim, Buddhist, Confucian, or the original belief system of the mongols, Tengriism. Maybe it depends on the country or area linked to the religion Islam (middle east) Buddhist (most far east nations) Confucian (China and Korea) or Tengriism (Mongolia).Eastward Expansion 15:17, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Genghis Khan is believed to have been Tengriistic, but as time went on the Mongols usually adopted what ever religion of the people they just conquered. And they were very tolerant towards other religions.Eastward Expansion 15:20, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you mentioned that. I wasn't entirely sure what would be the dominant Mongol religion. Would they even have a State Religion? I figure I'd make it close to that of the Chinese since I have the Khagan ruling by their Mandate of Heaven. Buddhism seems to be the best choice, with Confucianism as an ideology (as its not exactly a religion per say). You're right though, the idea that specific regions would be dominated by specific religions would be the most likely situation. Red VS Blue 16:05, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. So you're going with Buddhism? And Eastward Expansion 18:16, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well on the state religion matter, the historical Mongol Empire was probable one of the most religiously tolerant empires of its time. However many Khans (especially during Post-Imperial times) were Buddhists who encouraged that religion over others. Buddhist Monks were very high in society.Eastward Expansion 18:28, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh and Buddhist Monks have been considered the armed forces for various times in China and Mongolia. Before China invaded Tibet, Tibet used Buddhist Monks as the armed forces. Eastward Expansion 18:54, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey I noticed one major mistake! In your world map that shows all the countries, Mongolia controls the island of Taiwan. But in the map showing just the Mongol Empire, Taiwan is not controlled by the Mongols. Eastward Expansion 20:24, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you need a mongol flag? I'll make you one and see if you like it. If you don't I'll just delete it. Eastward Expansion 20:53, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wow, many questions! =P Yes, I'm going with Buddhism as the state religion, though others will feature prominently as well of course. One direction I wanted to take with the Mongols is that they are brought over to be more Chinese. So even the ethnicities mix and Mongolian culture takes on many aspects of Chinese culture, basically unifying them. Does that seem like a possibility?

Oh, right. I made that map in a bit of a hurry and forgot that Taiwan was part of the Mongol Empire, i'll get to that don't worry. Hmmm, a flag? Yes, that would be very helpful actually. I didn't know what direction to take with that, so if you have something in mind I'd be more than happy to accept it. Red VS Blue 21:20, June 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well for the flag, I'm trying to use Mongolian Symbols of the cosmos (which will be blue, because even though the Mongols aren't Tengriistic any more, blue sky would still be one of the most important things to then) on a background that's the same color as the mongols on your map.Eastward Expansion 11:54, June 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * And maybe you the army of the Mongol World Empire to be Buddhists Monks like I said before? Or not....Eastward Expansion 11:54, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well? Do you like this flag? It's not the complexity level of your other flags, but....Eastward Expansion 12:25, June 14, 2010 (UTC)Mongol_World_Flag.jpg

Marvelous =D Flags can never be too simple or too complex, remember that! A Flag is what it is and this one is great! I understand completely what symbolism you're using in the flag and I think it fits nicely with a Mongol/Chinese Empire. I'll make some minor cosmetic changes, like straightening out lines and making it the same dimensions as my other flags, but it is definitely ideal for my timeline.

As for the Buddhist monk army, I have seen something on Buddhist Warrior Monks, and I admit they are quite impressive. I can see them being kind of like a Special Forces arm of the Mongol army, though the Golden Horde will always be its primary part. I'll be adding all of this to the timeline soon. Thank you so much! Anything else you have in mind for the moment? Red VS Blue 13:07, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I noticed you left ethnic groups blank, in you Mongol Empire template. And in the article, you said Mongolia has surprisingly little diversity. In OTL the area controlled by the Mongol Empire does have less diversity than you would expect from an area that large. So are you just going to put Mongolian and Chinese for your ethnic groups? Oh thanks for your kind words on the flag! Eastward Expansion 13:52, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

haha Don't mind the blanks. I don't do it all at once, I usually wait till things just come to me and I write it down. I still haven't considered the ethnic diversity of the Mongol Empire though I guarantee there will be over 10 mentioned groups. The majority though will be Mongol, Chinese and a mix of them, seeing as how the OTL China region is really fertile land and the Mongols tended to devastate the natives in their conquests. As I said, I have very little expertise in that region, I mostly work off of logic and what I can get from books. Does what I've put up so far make sense though? Red VS Blue 20:53, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

What you've put so far does make since. But some of the languages don't really make since. For instance, unless things have changed in Superpowers, Lhasa is not a language. It you're talking about the language the people in Lhasa, Tibet speak that's called Standard Tibetan. Phnom Penh, which you mention as a language is also a city. A like that your saying Vietnamese in Vietnamese instead of English though.Eastward Expansion 21:29, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see what I did wrong. I tried using the ancient language names, but it turns out they're just the anthropological names given to the languages. That would explain why they were named after places. I'd very much appreciate your help in fixing that. Standard Tibetan is too "OTL" to be used as a name sadly. Though would I be right in guessing that you know what could be put in its place? =D Red VS Blue 22:33, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Tibet is actually an Arabic word for "the heights". Tibetans call their land Bho, or sometimes pronounced Pho. Since you call the Mongolian People Mongolianus, you could call Tibetans Bholianus.

As for a language for "Phnom Penh" you actually already have a the language they use(d) there.

Khmer. So far it seems the Khmer are playing a very small role in your timeline.Eastward Expansion 11:52, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that you were being very nice and letting Vegas Addict do a page on the Japanese Navy. I was wondering if you would let me to a page on the Mongolian Army. Here are my ideas, So? Would you mind if I did?Eastward Expansion 20:37, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The Army would be named "Khan's Boong" or "Subutai Boong" (Boong, I just researched, is the Mongolian word for Army, and Subutai was the top general and leading tactician of the mongol army during the first two Khans)
 * 2) Like you said before, I would use Buddhist Monks as a special forces of the Boong (PROUNOUNCED: Boo-NIG)
 * 3) A modern version of the Golden Horde would be the bulk of the army.
 * 4) You can't go wrong with Tanks using medieval Mongol strategies. Sun Tzu's art of war would make a good manual...

Oh, ok I'll make that change to the languages then. Thank you kindly.

Hmmm, Mongolian Army is one of my most important ones and I have future plans for it, so that one is off limits I'm afraid. However, I give you permission to work on the Mongolian's Navy or Air Force together with me, or even a Mongol Culture page. Alternatively, you can also create a Special Forces page, for those Buddhist Monks. I have a Roman special forces page, so a Mongol one would be a wonderful addition. Furthermore, I need a consultant on the Mongol Army page, and I would be very pleased if you would be that consultant. What'll it be? Your choice :) Red VS Blue 21:13, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would love to help you on anything you want me to! I think until you start the Mongol Army Page, I'm going to do Mongolian Culture and the Special forces. I've chosen to name the specials, Ongtsegheon (Mongolian word for Special). If you need me to name anything with its Mongolian word, I translate it for you! And then spell it using our alphabet.Pages for the other things you mentioned, I will do as soon as I'm done with these two.Eastward Expansion 12:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ah! I'm liking what you have so far on the Mongolian special forces. The addition of forts and bases already is quite nice! I look forward to the rest of it for certain.

I do find it a little funny though that the name for their special forces is their word for special haha Funny in a good way I assure you. Naming things is always an amusing thing to do. And thank you very much for your offer to serve as my translator. I admit the languages are what usually blocks me from working on non-Roman pages to an extent, so a translator is very helpful indeed. Red VS Blue 22:45, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Great! I'm just about to continue the page, so if you see anything wrong or contradictory just let me know.Eastward Expansion 23:40, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Superpowers Edit
Hello. If I could ask, would it be possible to create an article for the Incan Empire? I would love to help out on the article, though. Sorry if this sounds a bit mean, haha.

Thank you,

rcox1995

I will be creating an article for the Incan Empire in due time, though given the present work I have to do on this website, and more importantly other things I'm concerned with elsewhere it will be hard to get that done anytime soon. Perhaps in a week or two. Though if you have any suggestions or ideas feel free to post them here and I'll look through them when the time comes. What do you think of that? Red VS Blue 01:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

True, true....Okay, thank you. That is good.

rcox1995

Okay, I'll be starting the Inca Empire article this weekend, so get your ideas ready! =D Red VS Blue 20:50, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! I will get them ready, haha!

rcox1995

Mongols (Continued...)
I was looking through your list of wars in Superpowers and decided that the first Mongol War the Ongtsegheon would take part in would be the Fourth Mongol Expansion. Since a part of that was the invasion of Japan (and Japan is still independent) that the Mongols lost that one. Can you tell me what you had in mind for that war, and give me a list of the wars (and dates) the Mongols were in? Thanks =) Eastward Expansion 14:03, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Woah, that might be a little hard. I'll give you a write up of what view I have of it in my head right now, but it won't be fully comprehensive yet. Also a complete list of wars would be difficult, there is however an article Wars (Superpowers) that might be of help to you. When compared to the Timeline (Superpowers) its not too hard to have every war in which the Mongols took part in that's been recorded so far. You wouldn't need all of the wars anyway, right? Sorry if that wans't helpful. Red VS Blue 20:50, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh thanks! I've already seen the Wars page, but I need to check out the timeline page. Thanks again!Eastward Expansion 21:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clearing that up! I'll make sure they have to deal with the Khmer! Eastward Expansion 13:03, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * And did you like the badges for ranks? The Mongol Flag is really pixilated...Eastward Expansion 13:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh I noticed one thing about the Khmer. When you're talking about the people you say "The Khmer", but you are calling them "The Khmerians". There is no such thing as Khmerians. Eastward Expansion 13:14, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I noticed that flag was really pixelated. I also remember that you wanted the flag's line to be straight and you wanted it the same size as your other flags. So I made a new flag for the Mongols.Mongol_Imperial_World_Flag.png
 * =D Yes! Thank you. I was worried it'd be too demanding to ask you to change the flag again so I tried to do so myself. But embarrassingly I failed. So you've definitely saved my skin with that one haha

As for that Khmer thing I had realized that in my research when I was at about the year 1900 in my timeline and I just decided that changing them all would be a waste of my time. If you see any specific ones go ahead and change them but it's just one of the things on my list of things to get to lol

I did indeed see that rank badges, very flag-esque. They're appropriate for such a structured organization though. Kudos to another great piece of visual work! Red VS Blue 02:27, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no! I enjoy helping out in Superpowers! Thank you for voting Yes for Quetzalcoatl's World. Soon I should continue the Ongtsegheon article and then start the other Mongol article....

Eastward Expansion 01:18, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Which Mongol articles have you in mind to work on? I'm feeling anxious to start really expanding my timeline! Red VS Blue 02:58, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

The ones that you mentioned above (culture and airforce of the Mongols). And by the way, did you have anything in mind for something like where the Romans make movies showing the Ongtsegheon as monsters? (I know that was terrible grammar) Or other Roman anti-Ongtsegheon propaganda?Eastward Expansion 14:30, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well that depends, would I be wrong in assuming that the Ongtsegheon have a roll not unlike a combination of KGB and Spetznaz? If you agree with that, well I can imagine the Romans making movies not unlike the James Bond series. Perhaps showing a member of the Roman Intelligence Service combating Ongtsegheon actions. Red VS Blue 14:59, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

That's a great idea! What do you want to name your Roman Super Spy? I'm going to get started writing the popular culture portion of the article.

Sorry I haven't done much recently as far as Superpowers goes.Eastward Expansion 23:25, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

haha I'm sure I'll think of something eventually =P Names are usually highly referential with several meanings here, so I'll come back to you in a day or so with that. Don't worry about it, I fancy myself to be a very patient person, and I very much side with the slow and steady. Take your time and write when you have something to write. Red VS Blue 23:43, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Rise of Rome
A while ago I came across a TL called Rise of Rome, and it seemed like portions of it were coppied straight out of Superpowers. If you go to the Talk Page for it you can see a discussion I had with it's creator.Eastward Expansion 23:25, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't read through the whole timeline, as its rather long, though from what I saw I can't see any overt similarities, aside from Christianity being big there, as you mentioned. If you brought any other similarities to my attention, I'll gladly consider them though.

The main thing which makes me hesitant to see it as being similar is that the author of "Rise of Rome" seems to be unaware of, or perhaps ignored, the butterfly effect. Things in his timeline are uncannily similar to OTL, like REALLY similar, I almost feel like I'm reading a history text for a second or two at some parts. Still, I didn't read too much detail, so I may have missed something. Red VS Blue 23:43, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Incan Empire
The edits were minor, lol. I don't know, I would like to focus on the Inca's involvement with other countries throughout the centuries, and also their involvements in the Great War and the Global War.

Rcox1995 02:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 02:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting, but any specific suggestions perhaps? I haven't put up much yet, so you can wait till there's more to look over first. I plan to work on it over the course of the week. Red VS Blue 03:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I will probably wait until there is more up, and I will then edit it more. Thanks.

Rcox1995 19:15, June 21, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 19:15, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. I would be glad to try to help out with one of your goals on modifying and making better the articles on the Mayan, Incan, Japanese and Mongol Empires. The maps I am of no help, but, for information, I am glad to help. We can add our own ideas, as long as they conform with the central timeline, right? Thanks.

Rcox1995 19:14, July 11, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 19:14, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yup =D As always, add any ideas you have to the talk pages of the article in question, and I'll look over it carefully. The Inca page is especially lacking right now, so there's a lot of room for suggestions! Red VS Blue 23:18, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Alright! Thanks! I'll get to work on it during this week.

Rcox1995 01:20, July 12, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 01:20, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I did a few minor touches to it, mainly concerning the events of the Great War and the Global War. And I have seen that some of the articles are getting better, too. The only thing that is missed from the Incan Empire page is a map.

Sadly enough, I do not have the slightest clue on how to make a map similar to do that.

Thanks. Rcox1995 01:42, July 24, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 01:42, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

That's good to hear. Unfortunately no good ideas have come to me on the Inca page, I'm still struggling with an economic and political system for them. I'm working on some kind of autocracy with the Sapa Inca, but I feel like they'd have a parliament of some kind, like a good clean one. Economically I'm thinking an advanced kind of mercantilism, but I can't reconcile that with any "modern" ones. Any ideas to help me with their economy or government?

Oh a map...right, that'll take about a minute for me to do. Funny I haven't made that yet =P Red VS Blue 02:35, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I would probably not be of too much help on the economic issues, but the government issues is something that I could probably do. Yeah, maybe an autocratic parliament system? Haha, maybe, I guess.....

A minute?! Haha, nice.

Rcox1995 03:04, July 24, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 03:04, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, all I had to do was use the fill option on paint in a premade template of the year 2000. Quick stuff lol It was made and posted probably as you were writing that response.

Anyway I was rereading my Tawatinsuyu page and I realized that I've already written it as a constitutional monarchy, but that can be easily bended to autocratic parliament. All I need is an OTL equivalent or two and I can loosely base a government on that. If you can help me get a good idea of it in mind, I can probably write the government part tomorrow, shouldn't take more than 30 minutes to an hour to create. Then again, I'm feeling a bit energetic now and may be overstating myself a little. Regardless, it shouldn't be too difficult. Red VS Blue 03:11, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Pre-made template? Ah, I see. Yeah, that could....Um, I would like to say that you could use the....I'll look them up. Haha. Lol, it's fine. I'll look it up, too. And I will do whatever I can.

Rcox1995 03:19, July 24, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 03:19, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Well I'm in no hurry, so find whatever information you have in mind and I'll work on the page once we've got a plan ready. For now I'll be getting some rest. Goodnight.

Red VS Blue 03:22, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I have searched, and I have found probably the best one: the Tsarist government of the Russian Empire after the Revolutions of 1905 and the establishment of the Duma. That would probably be the best, as the Czar still had nearly of his powers, and could dissolve the Duma at will, prevent laws from passing, etc.

Rcox1995 18:30, July 25, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 18:30, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, after reading a bit about the Duma I think I see how I could apply that to the Inca Empire. I'll write something up and you can tell me what you think. Red VS Blue 22:02, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the edit was good. It fits in well, and it is as I though that it would be like. Thanks! It is becoming better, haha.

Rcox1995 16:49, July 26, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995Rcox1995 16:49, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Japan (Continued)
Is it ok if i create an artical on the Japanese Naval Air Arm/ Japanese Airforce as thier closely tied together and to the Japanese Navy?Vegas adict 15:31, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

For the moment no, but once I get back from my trip I'll look more into the importance of the Japanese Air Force and see if there's anything specific that I need to add first. Keep your hopes up though, I'll most likely give my consent. Red VS Blue 02:27, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can i go ahead with the Japanese Air Force?Vegas adict 19:23, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you may start the Japanese Air Force page. Though first, what will you be calling it? I'm looking for something at least moderately complex. Red VS Blue 02:58, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'l be calling it the Nippon no mottomo takai kūgun (Literaly:the most high air forces of Japan) however i probabley won't be starting on it for at least another week as i'm trying to finish off my plan for the Balklans in Wasteland Europe and will be going away to germany for a week soon.Vegas adict 15:44, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's alright, it'll give me some time to work on some more of my Japanese articles, and even make some edits of my own to the Navy page. Well, have fun on your trip! Red VS Blue 13:23, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Strategy
Are you going to go any further with Strategy? ProfessorMcG 18:34, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I do indeed, I have quite a bit to add. I'll be away at a friend's cottage for the next few days, so there won't be any additions for a few days, probably. But once I get back I plan to focus on that and keep work going on my timeline as well. Red VS Blue 02:22, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thought you might like to know that the Total War games were designed by Michael Simpson (Who lives in my neighboring town!!) and Risk was designed by the french film director Albert LamorisseVegas adict 19:23, June 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * haha Most fascinating! =D I had wrote that in jest though, glad to see it's been noticed =P Red VS Blue 02:58, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Apologies and a Fond Farewell
Good morning, Red VS Blue,
 * First off I'd like to start with an apology. I'm deeply sorry for just up-and-leaving your TL like that; I have too many real world problems, I'm too easily distracted, and I was disillusioned into thinking I could create a successful AH of my own, and well I got all of my priorites mixed up and slowly forgot about all the TLs that mattered. Regrettably over the months I began to forget about yours, but all of that changes. As much as I would like to help you with everything I promised (the Greek provinces, Greek Diaspora, and Greek-derived loanwords used by the Romans), I've become rather saddened by the decay of this wikia, and I've decided that for the few days I'll be here that I should try to warn the members of this site that things can get much worse than they've already become while being as rude as possible in the process. So, I have to officially give up all that I promised to help you with, for which I deeply apologize. I'm so happy to see that I've been replaced by people who are actually, shall we say "better" and more reliable than me that you can have fun with, and I'm so happy that your AH has grown twofold since I last visited. So, I won't be forgetting your Superpowers ATL any time soon, and I'll rather miss the fun we had.


 * Cheers,

Brian Constantine John Mr.Xeight 05:56, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hello fellow-John :)
 * First I have to say thank you very much; even though I would constantly wonder away, you still took the time and effort to write such a wonderful and king letter to me, and for that not only am I grateful, but utterly amazed at how you are proof that humanity is kind and forgiving (something you might like to know; I'm a huge proponent that humanity is intrisically good and don't particularly like when people say humanity is programmed to like violence and that essentially we're programmed to be savage; just a random fact for you :D).
 * Your kind words have actually convinced me that I should stay, there's no reason I have to "go out with a bang" by being as rude as possible to everyone before I go. So, will you take me back? However, I leave for Greece at 4:15 AM July 1st and won't be back until the 20th (or 21st depending on what time and the whole eight-hour difference between Chicago-Time and UTC+02 Time), so I only have a small window of opportunity to go on my computer tomorrow. So, when I return, will you take me back? Again, thank you very much for being so kind and forgiving.

Mr.Xeight 00:17, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Central World
Hi might you help expand or create articles for Central World. is a small community project, please answer me, VENEZUELA 01:30, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Advancement
Well thanks! I'll add you as a Scientific Advisor on the joining page. But do you think (based on Destroyanator's argument in the talk page here that it would be possible to colonize Venus?

Eastward Expansion 13:53, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering about something. would a man-portable railgun be feasible? The technology is more-or-less 200 years in the future, but the power requirements would be daunting even then. What do you think? BoredMatt 14:23, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me which planets, dwarf planets, and moons you think could be colonized?

Eastward Expansion 18:42, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Also, what is your opinion on ship propulsion systems? I'm invisioning a dual rocket-ion engine combonation for must ships (rocket thrusters for manuvering, deacceleration, and short bursts of speed, and ion engines for long-term acceleration). Would a Bussard Ramjet be feasible? Or a fusion rocket? BoredMatt 18:47, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Technology
I'm going to be working on the new vehicles and propulsion in the Advancement TL, I was wondering if you could work on the posible future weaponry systems and everyday technology?Vegas adict 16:54, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

Eastward Expansion 21:36, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! BoredMatt 22:39, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, your being such a great help!

Eastward Expansion 13:17, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Could you work on the artical itself, please?--Vegas adict 20:26, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

The page is here Technology (Advancement)Vegas adict 20:52, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Another question, Red. Could Lenz's Law be applied to levitation(frankly, that is the only application), and be made efficient enough for actual use? BoredMatt 20:53, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of, only to resist motion. Once something stops moving in the magnetic field, then the field would stop affecting it. If an alternating magnetic field were used, this still wouldn't make it levitate. I believe, though I'm not certain, that it could be used for a shielding system though, since a bullet made of metal would be slowed down as it produces an opposing magnetic field and then become useless as a penetrator.

For levitation you need superconductors that utilize the Messner effect or something like that, its the only way, and even then there are tons of limits.

And thank you Vegas, I'll get on that momentarily. Red VS Blue 21:20, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Is there a minimum distance for space elevators to be safely spaced, or would it not matter? BoredMatt 18:57, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

No, there wouldn't be such a multi national organization. Although, one thing I think should definitely be in the technology article is space piracy.

Eastward Expansion 19:06, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, ok, I was asking about the latter interpretation. Thanks!!! BoredMatt 19:15, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

CYOAH Nomination
I would be honoured if you nominated Choose Your Own Alternate History! as a featured TL, but when you do, please say that the wider community is the editors of CYOAH, as I myself have only added four or five since I created it, so I think it would be inappropriate for myself to be the only credited editor.

And to think that I thought my main POD, French Trafalgar, British Waterloo would be my first TL to be nominated for Featured status, while CYOAH was supposed to be a funny little divergance!

But, I would like to thank you for beliving CYOAH is worthy of Featured Status!

Tbguy1992 23:20, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

2753?
Hey Red, I was looking over the Superpowers portal page, and it says the year is sometime around 2753. I know the OTL calendar is based on Jesus, but, this one appearantly isn't? I don't mind that much, though I would like some clarification as to why it is that year as opposed to any other year. Other than that, I'd say Superpowers is just about the most awesome ficticious I have ever read (Second only to Harry Potter, but then, you can't have everything.) Also, and this just crossed my mind, what Time Zone are you in, in relation to the West coast of the US? Finally, I see still have achievements enabled, are you not part of the Revolution? (Pfff, typical Canadian; always not rebeling, with their Socialist Healthcare, and. . . Cold. . .ness. . . GO USA *smoke bomb* FREEDOM AND REMOVAL OF "E"'S AND "U"S FROM WORDS FOREVER! *trips* THIS CHANGES NOTHING *second smoke bomb*)

My regards (You team-killing fucktard) Jazon Naparleon 02:42, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Old Friend
Hey, John!
 * I'm sorry it's taken me so long to tell you that I'm back, and I'm ready to come back to the Superpowers Timeline, if you'd take me! Perhaps you might like some help with more Greek-vocab into Latin, as well as articles on the various Greek-speaking states?
 * And, John, I'd like to know if you could help me. It feels like it's time for me to wrap-up my part in 1983:Doomsday, and as such I've decided to go out with a bang and really develop the Federation of Greece and Second Sicily War before I go, I've assembled a team of good men who have agreed to help me and become co-caretakers of the Federation. However, I'm looking for a good successor, and I think you'd be the best. Would like to become a co-caretaker with me, and when I move on from 1983 for good, take over as head-caretaker?

Mr.Xeight 17:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

You picked my favourite time period of Greece (1000 CE-the Fall of the Monarchy); I'd love to help you! Also, I'm fascinated by the Huguenots, would you mind if I lend a hand to the French Reformation as well? Mr.Xeight 19:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Aw, John, don't worry about it; you have Fidei Definsor and Superpowers, you don't have to add another TL to your list. I understand if you're busy and can't do it, and believe me, I can understand being busy (like I should be doing the mountain of "getting to know you"-questionairre garbage given by all six of my teachers-I still have three more packets of usless questions to answer!). But, if you'd like, the Second Sicily War is a big subject I stopped caring about. I reread my old writings and it turned out I had a huge blitz of Greco-Alpinian forces charge into the Peninsula; and that was bloody November 29th! I would think by August the fighting's just guerilla warfare and the Greeks and Alipinians are just trying to restore order in their occupied zones. How much of the Peninsula the two nations control is beyond me; war isn't my strong-suit. Anyway another massive thing that needs to be done is a PR campaign to show the group that the Federation of Greece is alive and kicking. The dynamic-duo of Macedonia and Turkey are convinced that the nation I tend to is ASB and are planning a complete dissasembly of the Federation, but BoredMatt brought up the whole bloody Greek Army was stationed in Central Greece and Macedonia-and neither of them care! So perhaps by gently telling the world Greece is by far the dominant nation in the Eastern Med, things might turn out okay. Mr.Xeight 01:04, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Lord, I forgot to ask you what you're planning on Greece, Aragon, and French Protestantism in Fidei Defensor; when I get my three-day weekends, what ideas of yours should I work around? Mr.Xeight 01:07, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reading about Henry IV on Wikipedia I came across a conspiracy theory where Aragonese crypto-Muslims and French Protestants would attack Aragon and thus pry it away from its union with Castille; the Ottomans also agreed to help. It fell apart because the Ottoman fleet never arrived and John of Austria arrived in Aragon. What if in Fidei Defensor, with more Huguenots, and with the Ottomans actually backing up the crypto-Muslims and Huguenots, a new Aragonese-state can be made that ensures religious freedom to all Abrahamic religions, and the Aragonese can being to convert to Protestantism. Then the Aragonese language can survive to OTL with more than 10,000 native speakers and 30,000 all-together speakers? Oh, you can read about the plot at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_IV_of_France#Ottoman_Empire Mr.Xeight 01:18, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no, John, I think my heart just stopped because I got so happy after hearing you like the idea :D
 * It wouldn't be too powerful, Spain would make sure of it; Italy, Malta, Sicily, and maybe not even Sardinia would join Aragon during the split. Now of course Iberian Muslims and Iberian Jews are going to pack up and head for Barcelona and Zaragoza as opposed to Thessaloniki or the Barbary. Now, my main goal here would be to have the Aragonese language not dying out, so perhaps the new government can stress the Aragonese-language as both the administrative, business, and vernacular to distance itself from Castille and show the world it's not a lacky of France (even though it probably will be). The Aragonese Muslims might develop their own dialect of Aragonese though, no doubt having Arabic be a huge influence on it. Likewise, Ladino might become an Judeo-Aragonese dialect and not pick up Greek and Turkish loanwords and not be a Castillian-based language. Finally, I don't know how the Catholic Aragonese would take this flood of "heretics" into their land. Since they're promised equal rights and religious freedom, maybe they might be just another ethnicity and some might convert to Calvinism. Or maybe Aragonese-Catholics might flee to Castille or the Italian-territories that used to be under Aragonese rule, which I would not like to see happen at all. Anyway, I can tell you, I think we're going to have a lot of fun with this idea? :) Oh and would this be a kingdom and the king be a French-Bourbon, or would it be a nobles' republic like what almost happened in the 1200s? I don't think Europe, not even the allies of the new state (France, the Ottomans, Algiers) would want a republic because you know how monarchies find republics threatening. Thus, I would go for the former idea and just put a cousin or younger brother of Henry IV of Navarre on the throne. Oh, and do you think Henry might also get the parts of Navarre Castille stole from France back? Maybe they can play on Calvinistic-loyalties because I doubt Basque nationalism would work-the Basques were allowed quite a bit of freedom within the Union of Aragon-and-Castille, and were loyal to Castille during the Seven Year's War. Oh, how would feel about the Ottomans dumping some Greek rabble-rousers in Aragon and a few communities of Aragon be Aragonese-speaking (albeit with a very Greek flavour), Greek-Orthodox Christians? Not too many-I can't depopulate the Motherland! :D

Mr.Xeight 02:45, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Your New Timeline
So your making a new TL? Well, congrats! I hope it turns out just as amazing as Superpowers was! And Thanks, Red, for the great contributions, common sense (something it seems few people have) and time that you've given to this wiki! May your new timeline prosper!

Eastward Expansion 22:02, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

XD

I just wanted to thank you for helping in the ongoing struggle (dramatic and exaggerated pause) to cleanse this wiki of vandalism and those sorts! XD.

Anyway, yes I'm hoping to soon awake Advancement from its current downfall. I've been off this site for about a wiki, and since then it seems like everything has turned into a ghost town! Maybe when fall starts things will pick up again...

So yes, I must return Advancement to its former glory! (you've probably noticed by now that I kinda talk weird)

I'm gonna work on the history page sometime today.

Eastward Expansion 22:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Quick Question
I have a little question. Somewhere, I remember you talking about how AEtas Ab Brian is one of the greatest TLs. To me its just confusing, and I really don't understand it. I'm sure though, if I understood the gist of it then I would probably enjoy it.

So can you tell me what the POD for it is?

Sorry to bother you, I should probably just find out who made AEtas Ab Brian...

Eastward Expansion 22:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Good...I'm glad I don't too weird...

Anyway, thank you for explaining that about AEtas...

I might be able to read and understand its pages a little better now...And yes, now I'm actually going to work on Advancement again.

Eastward Expansion 15:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I thought Europeans all by the Middle Ages thought such ideas heretical or flat out wrong.

Eastward Expansion 15:26, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I was certain that most people (if not everyone) thought the Earth was flat...

Eastward Expansion 16:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I suppose I'll change that, and start working on a the history page now...

Eastward Expansion 15:26, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

About your Roman Senate
Yes, I know this is going to sound weird but I have to say... I LOVE THE FRAKIN IDEA G!!!!!! A lot of it sounds righteous even and sounds like it could form a NEAR perfect governmental system OR at least better then the one the USA has now (no offence meant).--DaBigUn 16:14, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Checks and balances, but also a gairinty for the people regarding Health and Education to the masses. Also the simple fact that I have a simple set bi-est to imperial governments like YOUR version of the Roman Government. Overall, the only thing I see somewhat wrong is the fact that the Emperor(Cesar) is not held to tell the truth, for the most part, or to make sure that he doesn't become to much of a tirent (although I believe you have it where the Senate/Supreme Congress can vote to kill/boot the Emperor out of power ONLY if the evidence is found to support the deeds that they are killing/booting him for).--DaBigUn 16:14, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

PS: sry for the misspellings, just got up.--DaBigUn 16:14, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yea it is, but you do have to know some things about government (in particular the Roman) and may need to know something about the imperial system's used in history (like one)--DaBigUn 04:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reino d'Aragón (possibly the Corona d'Aragón)
Now I know you didn't want to clutter our talkpages' with discussions of Aragon, but I couldn't figure out how to post a picture on the blog page, so I'll put it here, if'n you don't mind. Oh, John, you can call me by name chrismation name (which according to the Orthodox Churches is my given name), Constantine, so as to avoid confusion-I mean we're both comfortable with calling each other by our first names ;). Also, I suppose we can just say that the Sardinians figured the Aragonese would be better rulers than the Castillians since at least under Aragon they'll get autonomy and religious-freedom, plus the French fleet hanging around the Sardinian coasts and destroying the Castillian fleets in various Sardinian ports, as well as the promise Arab pirates will never invade Sardinia again (which they did regularly) might sway the Sardinians, too. Mr.Xeight 23:07, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Talk on future plans for Superpowers
I have a few questions. First of all, didn't you say that sometime in the near future that you were going to make a new map of the world in the timeline Superpowers?

Also, I love the Bellum Aegudis (sp?) page! It's definitely good. And, I really need to get around to working on the Inca page, but when you make the People's Imperium of Danemarc page, I will be glad to help!

Thanks,

Rcox1995 22:31, August 31, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

Oh true, on the timeline page, correct? I may have said that, I can't remember now haha. I'll refine some things on a map I have on my computer for 1200 AD then I'll refine it with the changes I've made to the timeline in the past year. Thanks for reminding me about that.

Oh, speaking of the Inca page I've learned some great new information about their economy. Apparently the Inca had some extreme socialist system, even in the 1400's and 1500's OTL and I could easily adapt that to a modern economic system. I'd just have to not make it too much like the Mayan's economy, which is also pretty socialist.

Ah, the Imperium of danemarc, unfortunately I haven't gotten to creating other nation pages since for most of them I don't feel happy about the current names of the countries. Like Imperium of Danemarc sounds good, but I keep having a nagging feeling it doesn't make sense. I dunno, what do you think? Red VS Blue 22:49, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you did, somewhere, about a present-day map, and that it would drastically different. Okay. You did? Alright, that sounds like it would work perfectly! Yes, I can understand what you mean about those. I like the name of Danemarc, because it still shows its Platonist roots and all. And, like the Zulu Empire? Yeah, I understand.

Rcox1995 22:55, August 31, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

Oh a present day map? It's up, for the year 2000 AD. I have plans to go further, but that's a whole other story, and is still pretty far away for now. Though what you might have seen me mention is that I have plans for where the timeline is going and they'll drastically change things, I don't know if I mentioned anything about maps there lol

Oh, so I should keep the "People's" part of the Danemarc name you think? Cause I figured it would be removed once they lost the Bellum Aegidis, seeing as how the Romans and such would want to keep them away from their Platonist ways. And "Grand Zulu Republic" works then? Cause then Republic of Khmer is kind of bland in that case lol Red VS Blue 23:08, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you should keep the "People's" part. Yeah, it would. The Republic of Khmer, I have no idea what to change that to, lol.

Rcox1995 23:27, August 31, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

haha Alright then, I'll keep that in mind then lol

Also I added another map that it turns out I'd made at the start of summer. It's only for 1095 AD, but it shows a lot of changes already. Also I just started working on a Culture (Superpowers) page, would you mind taking a look and offering a little feedback? I like getting an idea of what the general impression that readers get from it. Red VS Blue 00:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I have yet to look at the map, but I will soon enough. Yeah, I read all of it, and it's all really good. It pretty much describes everything about the cultures and everything. - Rcox1995

haha yes. The attention in your feedback is most impressive =P I'm only kidding. I'm rather busy now too lol You don't need to offer any critique if you don't feel like it. Red VS Blue 01:54, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, sorry. I see. Yes, I saw the map, and it is indeed much more drastic than what I thought it would be. The advancement of the Romans into Saharan Africa was already becoming apparent, as well as the expansion into Germania and what not. And the Great Chiefdom, O_O.

Rcox1995 21:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

hahaha Well, when you carry stories with you of an evil tribe with magic fire sticks and a penchant for kidnapping and sacrificing your people, you won't have too hard a time convincing people to join you =P Red VS Blue 22:11, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I guess so...though the Great Chiefdom is like the United States of Native Americans, only on some sort of uber-drug....Lol. Well, it still exists today, just because of magical fire sticks that were of the Mayans.

Rcox1995 23:02, September 1, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

Keep in mind though, the Chiefdom isn't expanding, its just adding new tribes to its membership. So it basically expands as fast as news of the advancing Mayans spreads. The UCC that still exists today is a different country, it just rules over the same people. It goes from an alliance to a republic basically Red VS Blue 23:26, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess so. It would not have mattered, anyways. The Mayans and Romans pushed them way far back, so I don't think it matters so much, anymore. Lol. Yes, that is true....Haha.

Rcox1995 23:47, September 1, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

Superpowers
Sure, I can look at your TL. I'll get to it as soon as I am finished helping Tbguy. Mitro 14:30, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Bellum Aegedis
Your newest article is awesome (as usual). I wonder if there is such a thing as alternate alternate history. Such as one when the Mongols joine the Confederacy. Eastward Expansion 22:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Why thank you =D I don't mean to toot my own horn (well sometimes I do :P) but I've put a lot of work into it and I myself am pleased at how its turning out.

Now that's an interesting idea. I've toyed with the thought of some kind of splinter timelines, like extra divergences, but I figured that would have to wait till I'd finished the entire timeline. You're right though, that would make a really good divergence, and I'll definitely try to remember to add that when I make a page to propose splits in the timeline. A few other good ones I can think of is the Roman Emperor rejects the idea of the "Columbia" continent that is theorized to exist in the middle of the Atlantic (maybe because they don't name it after him haha), or maybe Mayapan is exiled from his city (for being possessed or whatever) and goes to Teotihuacan instead, eventually creating the "Mexican Conglomerate" haha There's as many alternate histories for this as there are for our universe lol Red VS Blue 22:41, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

hahahaha Thats purty funny. Lol. Any way, yes if you don't want to make another timeline with extra PODs then you could right a page about famous literary works. Maybe the genre Alternate History would be more popular in this world....

Eastward Expansion 22:43, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well I like the idea of a page that suggests PODs within the timeline. I wouldn't work on these "alternate" alternates, but other people could. If you want you could work on one when I make such a page. It'd be a whole other canon, and would only have to follow the timeline of everything that happened before it. Could be pretty cool. To make things interesting, I could write the page in the format that the timelines from the PODs are "althistory novels" written by modern writers of the Superpowers world. That integrates what you said pretty well. Red VS Blue 22:52, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

FTBW
Hey, I was wondering if you wouldn't want to help look over my TL, and, in turn, I will try to do my best to help you with yours in return? Tbguy1992 04:17, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your points, and for reading my TL! Unfortunatly, my internet is down, so I won't be able to give you full details on responses and about Superpowers for a bit (I'm doing this on an iPod touch at the moment, and it's very difficult to do much on here), but I will respond as soon as I get my Internet working again! Tbguy1992 02:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, my internet is working again, so I can reply to what you said about my TL...


 * The actual battle of Trafalgar was a British victory because Nelson used his limited number of ships (he had about 2 for the combined French-Spanish three) in a different way than the traditional two opposing fleets firing at each other until one side had the most damage. Think of it as like if a bunch of cars in two teams on the highway threw rocks and bottles and each other at less than twenty kilometers per hour, until one team gives up, and leaves the road. Nelson, on the other hand, decided to divide his 28 some ships into two columns and drive straight into the side of the massed French-Spanish fleet, which would cause the most damage to the bow and stern, the most exposed part of sailing warships. In this TL, The French had over fifty ships (though Nelson had no idea), and they were split up into four segments, so that when Nelson attacked like he did in OTL, the French would summon the other three segments to surround the British ships, and destroy them.


 * As for going back on the Treaty of Copenhagen: it would have been possible, but what if part of the French fleet went to seize India or Canada? Sure, it would protect the Isles, but what about the rest of the Empire (I'm still going to change it so that all but one ship, Nelson's flag ship, the Victory are sunk or captured in battle; that would better throw off the nearly destroyed Royal Navy, while still giving them enough strength to fight the US in ten years or so. Most likely, I'll add that the British went a new ship building spree, managing to replace all the ships lost at Trafalgar in seven-eight years.


 * Napoleon united Italy by decreeing it, and working with Italian nationalists. Napoleon decided that Italy would be better as a united, strong ally, than a divided, weak ally. Many people may not have liked it, but eventually Napoleon is going to give the various nations virtual independence in the alliance, although it later on doesn't work out so well.


 * That is a good story about Jackson! I changed it after Mitro pointed out some things that wouldn't have worked, so what you saw was the redone version.


 * You know what: your right about the military and education reforms. Prussia would have really needed sweeping Military reforms, and maybe the other countries would make minor military reforms, just so they may be able to stand up to France in the future. Educational reforms may not come until the 1860's-1890's in Europe and America, when they realize they can use the school system to train the youth to be loyal and patriotic soldiers. Education wouldn't have been available to the masses until this time, anyway. Russia only expanded its Black Seas Fleet (secretly, mind you) so that they could more easily take on Ottoman Turkey, Czar Nicholas I's main goal in this TL.


 * I haven't really done much on Technology and society issues in FTBW, mostly because I'm not really sure how to tie it in to the main story. Most likely Slavery would be gradually done away with in Britain and France, and the South USA (later the CSA, as they win their freedom in 1862) will also slowly do away with it under Robert E. Lee. The basic thing about FTBW is that the world's technological advances are sometimes earlier than in OTL, up to five-ten years earlier, and rarely later, as with a strong France and defeated US, the various nations have to find away to be able to match up with their opponents, then they have to be able to catch up, etc. etc. Their is no "Pax Britannia", so their is really no peaceful period in this story like their was in OTL.


 * If you have any ideas about FTBW, and how I can change it, let me know, and I'll do as much as I can.


 * As for Superpowers, all I can say is "whoa." Really, the only thing I see wrong with some of your stories is the "accidental discoveries" that seem to pop up, like Mayan Gunpowder, and Roman motors, etc. etc. Although most major discoveries, like penicillin were accidents, some things like TV's, internet, rifled artillery, rockets etc. etc. were designed and such. But, other than that, their really isn't much I can say, and I know that they are important to the story, so you don't have to change them on my account.


 * I otherwise haven't had a good chance to look up much on Superpowers, though I have read bits of it since I really started editing on here, in later 2009. I will, though, try to read more, and give you my thoughts! They won't be great, as I suck at critiquing, but I will try my best!


 * Thanks, and I hope to hear from you soon! Tbguy1992 18:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll just keep the rest of the conversation to here :P haha

That answers a lot then. I still have one issue. I understand that Napoleon could potentially keep Italy united by the force of his reputation and his armies, but I think once he dies the Italians would revert to their old ways, and most likely split. But that's a small issue overall. I'll check out the next page tomorrow and see what I can point out then.


 * Well I agree the Mayan discoveries aren't too likely, and that's why the discovery of gunpowder and the wheel are the American POD (going along with the birth of their discoverer). As for the motor its explained better in the detailed timeline and it actually takes about 70 years after discovering the principle behind an electric motor before one is actually built, and then a great many more years before a practical motor is built. One thing I like about the electricity technology in my timeline is that the batteries found by the Romans in Persia aren't speculation, there actually were weak batteries made in the Parthian period that ended up being left in storage because they couldn't find a use for them.

Thanks for your comments though, and I'm just wondering, what part of the timeline are you reading? The general one or the detailed one? haha I realize its all pretty long, and I appreciate that you're taking the time to read some of it =D Red VS Blue 19:07, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Made edit on Tawanitsuyu page
I just adjusted the Tawanitsuyu page a bit to account for the Bellum Aegedis page that you just set up and everything. I just wanted to see if everything checked out okay.

Rcox1995 01:45, September 4, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

Thank you! It's a good addition to the main page. Some time soon I'll get back to the Tawatinsuyu and maybe spell check it a bit and add an economy section. But I'm focusing on advancing the timeline for the time being. Red VS Blue 02:00, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I understand. Besides, I am also greatly interested in the Timeline so far.

Rcox1995 03:31, September 4, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995

That's good. What have you read in my timeline so far, if you don't mind me asking. Red VS Blue 14:22, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, almost everything, lol. I don't think I read a couple of the first few pages, but I'm already past the Imperial Civil War and the Great Emperor Magnus. Oh, and thank you for mentioning me in the 100th page article. Hooray for the Inca! Lol.

Rcox1995 20:50, September 4, 2010 (UTC)rcox1995