Talk:Two Americas

Having two nations that are constantly at odds with each other, with a border over a thousand miles long, would be almost impossible. The speculation that the Confederate states would side with the Axis means that a very bloody war undoubtedly would be fought across North America as well. With the home front so large, the US forces would lack the manpower to join in the war in Europe or Asia. The only way that the two Americas could survive the World Wars would be if they were allies.

Also, the "unofficial" law, that allowed free association between citizenships (and thus presidents) after WW2, would be highly unlikely due to the animosity between the two nations in that war.

And one more thing, the borders of the states, in some cases are not based on natural boundaries. This would mean that highly armored forts, or a very high fence, would be necessary where rivers and mountains are absent. Friendly checkpoints are one thing, a demilitarized zone over a thousand miles long is another thing altogether.

If these Americas are so different as to be on opposite sides in WW2, the dynamics of the late nineteenth and whole twentieth century would be quite different indeed. The likelihood that the US could grow to be a world power in the Spanish-American war (fought of the shores of the CS, no less) would be lessened. It is more likely that the CS would have more of a stake in that conflict, and could very well have become the superpower instead.

I suggest that either the "Two Americas" be allies, or that the two not be involved in WW2 at all. If there was no North American involvement in the war, of course, the results would very likely be quite different. Perhaps, instead of being on "opposite sides" in that war, the war in the Pacific could have been waged by one, and the war in Europe by the other. I suggest, for example, that the US would have had to declare war on the Japanese, entering the war in the Pacific. When the Axis declares war on the US in return, though, the CS takes the challenge instead. Perhaps the CS could have prevailed so well in the Spanish-American war that it would have been "the" America with which Europe dealt anyway. This might have been especially true if the European powers had helped the CS in their war for independence.

This whole scenario, I guess, would qualify as another TL. Even as I discuss it, it seems the best way to deal with this. If I don't get any response to this, that is probably the best avenue for me to take on this. Being a southerner (though born in California by chance of a "Yankee" mother and Southern father), I think I might be able to make this work better with my own timeline. Anyway, if you have read this far, thank you for your attention.--SouthWriter 17:08, December 31, 2009 (UTC)