User:Mscoree/Government Simulation

This is a page for the government simulation.

Please see the original blog post for more information.

Members
(Note: * denotes member of the TSPTF)


 * Mscoree
 * Ratc3333
 * Memester
 * Spartian300
 * Octivian Marius
 * Bfoxius*
 * NonEuclidean
 * Tr0llis
 * Monster Pumpkin*
 * UglyTurtle
 * Reximus55
 * Feudalplague
 * Imp*
 * Local
 * FS*
 * Scraw*
 * Guns
 * Crim*
 * CourageousLife*
 * Viva*
 * Ninja
 * Scarlet
 * Rcchang
 * Willster22
 * Blocky858
 * Andr3w777*
 * LightningLynx89
 * TheMaster001
 * Saturn120
 * Daxus Inferno

Current Government
Executive Branch
 * President - Mscoree (Progressive)
 * Vice President - Monster Pumpkin (Progressive)

Legislative Branch



Conservative Party
Called "fascists" and "dictators" by some, the Wiki Conservative Party represents the old ways and practices of the institution. Controlling one hundred percent of the TSPTF floor [citation needed], the Conservative Party is the most powerful political party in terms of seats in the house.

Known Members
 * Lordganon (I'd assume)
 * Fed
 * ''Everyone else post below!

Progressive Party
The Progressive Party is a popular political party considered one of the major contemporary parties today. created in January 2014 through the merger of the Liberal Party and the growing Nullification Party to create a stronger progressive and reformist party, the Progressive Party became the dominant party following the first election, in which its presidential candidate Mscoree was elected, as well as twenty one out of forty seats in the senate.

The party's platform is generally based upon the beliefs of several leading ideologies, the main ones being ideas of libertarianism and progressivism. The party supports the Idea of Progress, which states that advances in technology, science, and social organization can produce an improvement in the human condition, and that the wiki most advance likewise to meet the demands of a growing community. The party also emphasizes the importance of freedom of choice and political freedom, seeking to protect and promote the general welfare of all works of alternate history.

Goals
 * We strive for proportional representation in wiki affairs.
 * We promote respect for freedom of speech relating to political affairs.
 * We seek the progressive expansion and revision of wiki rules as the wiki advances.
 * We seek to promote the general welfare of collaborative projects and solo efforts, and fight for the protection of allowed timelines, map games, and other works.

Known Members
 * Mscoree
 * Ratc3333
 * Memester
 * Spartian300
 * NonEuclidean
 * Tr0llis
 * Monster Pumpkin
 * UglyTurtle
 * Feudalplague
 * SwankyJ
 * ''Everyone else post below!

Accolades Accolades are given out by members of the party. Some accolades are independent of the party.


 * Progressive Merit Award - For thoroughly serving the party and remaining active in the simulation. May only be awarded to a registered progressive member, as chosen by the reigning president.
 * Medal of Eternal Revolution - For the highest act of valor and sacrifice in the name of reform and the revolution. May only be handed out to an individual who receives a 2/3 vote among party members. Recipient does not have to be a registered member of the party.

Labour Party
We believe in stuff. Most members are respected individuals within the community who believe in values of the party. We hope to help the wiki grow in size and help decide many important matters which affect the wiki as a whole. Comprising of a significant number of TSPTF members, our opinion is often heard and respected.

Goals
 * We seek to ridicule trolls and enact harsh policies against them for the safety of the wiki
 * We seek to uphold rules and reform them when necessary
 * We seek to make the wiki experience fun and interesting
 * We seek to help promote a feeling of community within the users
 * We seek to give all users a voice (regrettably that does include some of the more unfavourable users)
 * We seek to help expand all content of the wiki in a fair manner, ensuring brilliant timelines are not turned into cheap map games
 * We seek to uphold the right to exercise sense of humour in these troubling times

Known Members In order of joining -
 * Imp
 * FS
 * Scraw
 * Guns
 * Crim
 * CourageousLife
 * UT (Alliance Member)
 * Anyone else post below!

Centrist Party
Partisanism - decrying the Conservative, the Progressives, or the Labour Party - has fueled this Government since its inception. That very fuel ran dry and left the Government in a state of disuse for almost five months.

The Centrist Party believes that we cannot have a TSPTF Party, an Anti-TSPTF Party and an Anti-Ms Party. We need unity in order to allow the government to change the very fiber of the Wiki, and the Centrist Party offers this Unity.

Senators of the Party may vote as they feel will better the Wiki as a whole -- they own the Party, not the other way around! Please do not ask what the Party's stance on an issue is if you are one of our Senators -- we gave you a vote in the Senate so you can vote as you wish! (I, Rex, am willing to tell you how I feel but that is purely my opinion)

Goals
 * Plausibility, but no tyrannical use of the ASB-Biased tag
 * Plausibility within Map Games, but no limitations of Creativity
 * Acceptance of ASBism not as an insult, but as a tag to categorize a page.
 * Three Active Brass
 * Ban Reform
 * Less Harsh Bans for non-offensive, non-sockpuppeting "crimes"
 * No unilateral Bans for minor infractions
 * Reform (to a certain extent) on sockpuppeting rules
 * Community Timelines and Activities
 * Days After Chaos
 * Wiki Newspaper
 * Activity within the TSPTF and Retirement once Duties are no longer performed
 * Separation of TSPTF and Map Games
 * TSPTF nominations based upon merit and ability to perform duties, not necessarily Edit Count or Popularity
 * Finding common ground between the more and less radical elements of the Reform Movement to have the biggest impact on the whole of the Wiki

Known Members
 * Reximus55 (Founder)
 * Bfoxius (Founder)
 * Sine dei gloriem (Founder)
 * CookieDamage
 * Willster22
 * I am that guy
 * LightningLynx89
 * The Great Rcchang of Luxembourg
 * Daxus Inferno
 * TechnicallyIAmSean

Communist Party
Goals
 * To all our comrades the treatment they deserve
 * May all our comrades be judged by their current abilities, not by glory gained in times that passed
 * A friendly community shall be supported, for it is a basis of a peaceful wiki
 * To all according to their needs and abilities. Before one acquires power, he must have ability.
 * The TSPTF will be chosen among the active, contributing and fair comrades for they are the only ones who deserve the power.

Known Members Comrades
 * SkyGreen24 (Founder)
 * Edgeofnight
 * Blocky858
 * FirstStooge (fellow traveler)
 * TheMaster001
 * Local Mafia Boss
 * Scarlet Outlaw
 * Andr3w777
 * Ozymandias2
 * Saturn120
 * Octivian Marius
 * Fed
 * MP
 * Toby
 * Callumthered
 * Steph
 * Nlenhardt

Extremist Brotherhood
We in the Brotherhood seek to maintain the status quo. Though somewhat authoritarian, and extremist as our opponents call us, we are simply trying to prevent the great unknowns from sweeping us into the unending abyss of ASBism. We use black to symbolize our taking on the darkness of implausibility.

Independent Party
Formed as the successor to the non alignment movement, the independent party represents the ideals of a group of people unwilling to dedicate to one of the major parties. Ideology wise the Independent Party mostly consists of Progressive-leaning voters.

Purple is the color of peace, and a combination of the colors of Red (Conservative) and Blue (Liberal), meaning that regardless of previous background, all are welcome in the pursuit of peace, happiness, and free thought. The Independent Party works toward the old Non-Aligned Movement's goals plus some more.

Goals
 * Mutual respect for each other's right to speech and opinion, even when it differs from yours
 * Mutual non-aggression: One does not have to right to deny others to user rights except of spamming, sockpuppeting and advertising real world products on the wiki (chat not included)
 * Mutual non-interference in each other's TL's, except when it is empty
 * Equality of all wikians and mutual benefit
 * Peaceful co-existence
 * Respect for others' opinions, no matter how farfetched they seem
 * Treating the wiki like the wiki should be, not an ideological warzone, a place for timelines, map games, etc.
 * In-game (Map Game) disputes not carrying over into the chat.

Known Members

Republic of the Eagle
The Republic of the Eagle is a branch of the Progressive Party and political organization that uses more extreme tactics to bridge the gaps between previous organizations.

The Squirrevolution Party
The Squirrevolution party aims to overthrow restrictions on squirrels, as well as declaring an "open season" on idiotic trolls. Led by Guns, they are generally considered highly eccentric and awesome. While many of them are highly experienced users, none are members of the TSPTF, some because they declined nominations, others because they were considered too brutal to be allowed in. We sympathize with the Labours, but believe that most of them should be executed. We also agree with the Communists, but believe that they too should be executed for not being far enough right on certain topics, such as squirrel usage. We would also like to say that we are serious, we are not joking; we may be funny, but the issue of the squirrels on chat is a major one. FORTH THE SQUIRREVOLUTION!

Goals
 * Promoting the usage of squirrels in chat.

Known Members
 * Guns
 * Edge
 * Rcc (I think)
 * ''Everyone else post below!

Extension Act

 * Proposed by: Mscoree
 * Text: Content for the government simulation will be moved or linked to a new user extension page, and all future government simulation information will be presented there, or linked there (this page).
 * Votes:
 * Aye
 * Mscoree (talk)
 * phyrexia_symbol.png Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes phyrexia_symbol.png
 * CourageousLife (talk) 22:43, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oct
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * Discussion

Voting Ammendment

 * Proposed by: Local
 * Text: Following the Controversial result in the January Election, I propose that the Senate and Presidential Votes are seperated.
 * Votes:
 * ​Aye
 * Mscoree (talk) 22:40, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * CourageousLife (talk) 22:43, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * The Mighty One (Guns)
 * Oct (i refuse to accept that he even thought that).
 * Shadow
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * So this means that in future elections there will be three lines instead of two. Mscoree (talk) 22:40, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. It means that the votes for Senate and President are seperate, not combined. Still 2 lines, not 3.
 * Yes, so three lines in total. Before there was on for seante/president.
 * No. There will be fave candidate and fave party. The fave party vote ONLY counts for senate. The fave candidate vote ONLY counts for president. TWO lines.  01:12, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah so three in total. The two you just descibed and the vote for president. Mscoree (talk) 03:01, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * HOW IS THAT THREE IN TOTAL??? The Fave Candidate IS the vote for President!
 * Vote for president, vote for senate, vote for party. Three lines. Mscoree (talk) 01:12, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * The vote for party is the same thing as the vote for senate? It's combined into one line... You have candidate- vote for president and party- vote for senate. TWO LINES.
 * Ms. It would have the same amount of lines.:
 * President Vote: Mr Example
 * Senate Vote: The Example Party
 * AND THAT'S IT.
 * Thank you, Local.
 * It needs to be three, like below. Mscoree (talk) 01:05, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * President Vote: Mr Example
 * Senate Vote: The Example Party
 * Favorite Political Party: Example Party
 * There is currently a separate bill to decided this two or three line issue. Please note that this vote is only to separate president and senate votes. Mscoree (talk) 01:28, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Senate Vote: The Example Party
 * Favorite Political Party: Example Party
 * There is currently a separate bill to decided this two or three line issue. Please note that this vote is only to separate president and senate votes. Mscoree (talk) 01:28, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Establishment of a Head of Governement(Head of the Legislature)

 * Proposed by: LxCaucassus
 * Text: The Position of Head of the Legislature will be established as the person who can best maintain the confidence of the Senate, the Prime Minister, First Senator, or whatever name we decide to give the position will be as a rule of thumb the leader of the Majority or Plurality factions or coalition. (in further text, the Head of the Legislature shall henceforth be refered to in thsi bill as the Prime Minister or the PM
 * The PM is appointed by the President, however, the president may not appoint someone as the Prime Minister if he or she can not maintain the confidence of the Senate, as the senate must approve of the apointment.
 * The PM shall maintain his position untill he or she can no longer form a governement.
 * The PM should be the head(leader) of a Party or an Independant candidate. While it is not impossible for a Senator that is a member of a party to become PM, it would not come as a surprise if he/she can not form a governemenet when asked. However it is much more feasable for Independant members to become leaders of coalitions, dont be so quick to dismiss them.
 * If, after the Election, no one faction has control of a majority of the Senate(Hung PArliment in Brittish terms, Minority Governement in canadian), Then the first person that should be asked by the president to form a governement is the former prime minister(the former PM has "first dibs" on forming a coalition). If, however, the former PM fails to either form a coalition, or have the rest of parliment not vote against his appointment, then the President should ask the next person he/she believes to have the largest chance of forming a governement( usualy the leader of the Plurality/Majority party or coalition leaders) to do so.
 * During a Majority Governement, where a party has control of more than 50% of seats, then the president must appoint the leader of the majority party as doing what is stated above, if the incumbent is defeated, is simply unnecessary redundancy.
 * If, in a Minority situation(hung parliment), the PM looses a confidence motion, then the President may either look to the oposition, or call a legislative election. However, in the case that nobody can maintain the confidence of the house, an election must be called to reshuffle the balance of power in the Senate in hopes that a party can, after the election, gain the confidence of the Senate.
 * Votes:
 * ​Aye
 * -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag.png 01:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Mscoree (talk) 02:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * phyrexia_symbol.png Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes phyrexia_symbol.png
 * Shadow
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * Interesting idea. So this new position is basically the speaker of the house (I feel that would be a more appropriate name), and leads the senate, if I understand correctly. 01:13, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Kind of, but the speaker of the house moderates discussions, calles votes, etc... and can just be some random guy that has the tiebreaking vote. The Prime Minister would be the "Leader" of the Senate and is responsible for, well, taking care of the Senate and leading comprimises and meeting with the opposition and esentialy everything. And I want to shy away from Speaker of the House as a name becasue I want to distance this whole thing from the American System, as in the US the President acts as both Head of Governement and Head of State. In the future as this whole governement simulation evolves, we should add responsibilities related to both the President and PM and see them as co-rulers, one representing the legislature(and perhaps parties that do not put out candidates) and rerpresenting the past vote...I hope everyone unbderstood what I mean... -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag.png 01:41, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * After talking in chat with Lx I have agreed to the creation of this new position; a prime minister who leads the senate. Mscoree (talk) 02:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * After talking in chat with Lx I have agreed to the creation of this new position; a prime minister who leads the senate. Mscoree (talk) 02:07, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Party Representation Clause

 * Proposed by: Mscoree
 * Text: With a proposal already created to separate the presidential and senatorial vote, there currently is a disagreement as to whether or not there should be three lines or two, meaning whether or not we should continue mixed member proportional. Having a vote for party, not just president and senate, would mean that the little parties would still get representation, encouraging political diversity and eliminating the spoiler effect. We propose therefore that we should use three lines.
 * Votes:
 * Aye
 * Mscoree (talk) 01:22, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * phyrexia_symbol.png Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes phyrexia_symbol.png
 * Shadow
 * Nay
 * Discussion
 * I suppose I am just confused as to what this vote does? Does an "aye" vote have the effect of having 3 lines, and a "nay" vote have the effect of having 2 lines? 05:00, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. Mscoree (talk) 11:37, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. Mscoree (talk) 11:37, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Registration Act

 * Proposed by: Mscoree
 * Text: New procedures will be created for the registration of official parties. All parties founded after the passing of this legislation will require a minimum of five members, as well as a fully developed section on the page and beliefs section. New parties will also require three days of graduation period before being officially registered. Once registered, official parties will be allowed to nominate candidates for president, while other organizations may not.
 * Votes:
 * Aye:
 * Scarlet Outlaw
 * Cookie Damage Cookiedamage (talk) 01:08, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * FirstStooge (talk) 01:50, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Mscoree (talk) 13:01, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sky Green 24 - Join the party  13:52, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bfoxius (talk) - Ms is right. We need to have better rules having to do with new parties becoming official.
 * Tr0llis (talk) 15:31, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * After consideration, I have decided to vote for this act. Tardis.pngS-Y!!,Basically, RUN!!Tardis.png 17:55, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Blocky858 (talk)
 * 18:01, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * NonEuclidean ツ (Talk) 18:04, June 8, 2014 (UTC) I don't understand why Rex is trying to limit the Centrists.
 * SwankyJ (talk) 04:48, June 10, 2014 (UTC) it allow too many minor parties, which will later lead to either Special Interest groups or Break off parties (ie TEA Party).
 * Nay:
 * I vote no with rights. While not sure if I still have a vote, considering the fact that I was (and still am, technically) a Senator, I am opposed to this legislation because it prevents last minute political shifts to be recognized. For example, the merger between the Libs and the Nullies was under 3 days before the election (if I remember correctly) and would not have been recognized, thereby disallowing the Progs from running a candidate. Additionally, the wording of this legislation implies that a candidate must be nominated for the Presidency, something I completely disagree with. Partisanship is being embedded in this seemingly harmless piece of legislation. 02:15, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Willster22 Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 02:47, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'am a nay sayer, LightningLynx89
 * Discussion:
 * This act is just setting up official rules for the simulation. Before this the new parties might not have been recognized at all, but now you'll have an actual thing you can point to and say that you should. Previous registered parties are in the past. This one aims to get more in, since we have a weeks time to do so. And partially I am trying to prevent people making a party the night of the election. To Andrew, this isn't telling people who to vote for at all. This is just setting up rules for recognizing the new parties, so if anything it makes less votes for older ones. Mscoree (talk) 13:01, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Question, if this law were to pass would this satisfy the "as well as a fully developed section on the page and beliefs section." part? Sky Green 24 - Join the party  13:23, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, if this passed then both the Centrists and the Communists would be passed, rather than having to wait to some unknown time. Mscoree (talk) 13:36, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * If that is the truth (and it better be) you have a comrade's vote if it counts for anything. Sky Green 24 - Join the party  13:52, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Rex how is this partisanship? This act benefits your party most of all. Also wtf do you mean by a "candidate must be nominated for the Presidency", Rex? Were you under the impression that we should be able to jokingly vote for people like 'Mickey Mouse' on our ballet? Tr0llis (talk) 15:31, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * This doesn't exactly force anyone to candidate, it says your party will be able to nominate candidates, not forced. However, Rex, your party is unaffected by this law since it was created before this passes. This also regulates the creation of small parties, which would be of no use in the big picture. It's more like a law that is created to make this more realistic. I.E. banning you from creating one-man parties, although current ones (Viva I'm lookin at you) would still stay. Sky Green 24 - Join the party  15:57, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Rex preaches change and criticizes the progs for getting nothing done, then votes no on a pro-Centrist act...Tr0llis (talk) 18:01, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Here are the specific reasons I am voting no - the specific wordings that make me feel uncomfortable. By saying partisanship, I do not mean the parties blocking any real legislation, I mean the legitimization of a party system. You see, I feel that parties are just vehicles, but once its mandatory to have a party, they stop to serve their purpose and are just roadblocks. Here is what I am opposed to -- "Once registered, official parties will be allowed to nominate candidates for president, while other organizations may not." Why must you bee nominated by a political party in order to run for the Presidency. Anyone should be able to run. Plain and simple. This legislation embeds the use of political parties, thereby making them roadblocks. Additionally, this is not Centrist legislation. The Party, by its founding principles, will never endorse or condemn any piece of legislation. 00:45, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * The Centrism Party at work:
 * Preaches reform...votes no on reform
 * Preaches against partisanism...is partisanism by blocking reform
 * Preaches compromise...refuses to compromise
 * Preaches discussion...doesn't discuss new act
 * I would have thought the Centrist party would be a lot different. NonEuclidean ツ (Talk) 02:03, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I think this act is more so we don't have parties that are created for 'teh lulz' and other silly reasons. However, Non, you shouldn't be bashing on the Centrist. Just because they want reform, doesn't mean they want the wrong kind of reform. And they kind of are trying to compromise, as they only oppose a portion of the act. Finally, I do believe Rex's paragraphs are in fact a discussion. In conclusion: Read Rex's paragraphs through one more time before you try to undermine him. Sky Green 24 - Join the party  20:08, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Sky. Firstly, its the Centrist Party, not the Centrism Party. Secondly, this is not reform. This is changing procedural rules and instituting our own regulations upon this relatively free political system. I am opposed to how this limits political parties -- in Russia, the PRC and Nazi Germany you have to register your political party and submit it to governmental regulation. The precedent this piece of legislation sets is that the government can regulate political parties. I, personally and not acting as Chairman (well, Facilitator) of the Centrist Party, strongly disagree with this precedent. Is reform truly a good thing when it is tightening the freedoms of the people? That is just playing into the hands of the powerful interests. How is it partisan for me to vote no on a piece of legislation? As I have made clear -- each member of the Centrist Party can, and does, vote on their own accord. I am but one of our party's members. I have clearly shown willingness to discuss the new act, whether here or on chat. I have actually discussed it more than you have -- all you have done is insult me and/or the Centrist Party for your partisan gains. Same with Tr0llis. Please, discuss the issue, not the way I vote on any given issue. I have also shown willingness to compromise by pointing out exactly what I feel needs to be fixed, even at a time where the legislation was seeming to be voted down. I leave with a closing thought... Is reform a good thing when it restricts the ability of people to organize to bring about positive, common sense change??? 03:15, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * This is ridiculous... Sine dei gloriem &#34;Ex Initio Terrae&#34; (talk)
 * it allow too many minor parties, which will later lead to either Special Interest groups or Break off parties (ie TEA Party). I would rather have not a slew of minor parties which simply to get there specific point out, when branching and adapting to a larger one will allow individuals to grow more open minded towards others, straying away from narrowed points of view, and there for broader aspects of intelligence. SwankyJ (talk) 04:50, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

Rules

 * Each election cycle consists of a debate, election, and a term.
 * Parties must register to be come an official party before the first phase of the cycle (by the debate) by making a comment here listing their party, leader, ideologies, stance, and nominee.
 * When in office legislature can be proposed by members of the government which can amend or create rules/practices for this simulation.
 * Any registered party member, who belongs to a party with representation in the government may propose legislature. Anyone in a represented party may vote.
 * If a party has more members than it does seats in the government than its members must come to some sort of agreement before voting on legislature.
 * Votes for legislature will be counted up so that the ratio of votes for a party are proportional to the number of seats that party has. If a party has twenty seats and they vote three yes and one no than that equals fifteen and five votes.
 * Once proposed legislature has one week to be voted upon.