User talk:TheCrimsonOracle/Archive 2

Axis vs Allies: Reborn (Map Game)
India is in trouble and rebellion, The UK should do a move soon to avoid chaos in the Empire!The River Nile-2 (talk) 19:00, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

'''Quick, act now or Ethiopia ma conqure the S.Yemen after taking over N. Yemen. Singapore needs atention and Germany is planning to invade the UK after it has crushed France.The River Nile-2 (talk) 02:09, January 25, 2013 (UTC)'''

Skywalker Ranch
Unfortunately, it'd be, far as I can determine, right in the path of fallout from Edwards AFB and/or Mare Island. Lordganon (talk) 11:32, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Edwards is within easy fallout range of the region.

San Francisco does not have the same wind direction as areas north of it. And, more important, WNW is, for all purposes, blowing west.

There'd no weather stations in those communities, Crim. While they have a lot of info for most places, wind direction isn't one of them. If there was no wind that day, then it would say zero, or something to that effect. It being blank means that no one recorded it, as there was no weather station there.

That DD map, with regards to the west coast, is not accurate. Not even close. Winds west of the Rockies go west, and winds east of them go east. The map itself is also designed for high-altitude fallout, not the low stuff that we deal with.

Sorry, Crim, but it gets fallout more or less dead-on.

Lordganon (talk) 10:30, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

The wind direction indicates the direction from which the wind would be coming, not the direction it is blowing. A wind blowing from WNW (292.5 degrees) would take wind to the ESE (112.5 degrees), or almost east. Meanwhile, the wind direction in Sacramento is from the SSW, and thus "blowing" NNE (22.5 degrees), or basically north. The weather reports are clear, surface winds are indeed in Skywalker Ranch's favor. Depending on the size of the blasts over San Francisco, there may have been some damage, though they were 30 miles away. Likewise, the blast over Travis Air Force Base, a target between Sacramento and Skywalker Ranch, is over 30 miles away.

As for the "low stuff that we deal with" here, it would be survivable unless we assume ground bursts. The gamma radiation is absorbed within micro-seconds of the blast. Therefore, the irradiated particles in question are mostly material in the vaporized casing of the bomb itself and not so much the debris drawn up into the resulting mushroom cloud. If the blast(s) over San Francisco forced fallout along the shockwave, the distance in all directions would distribute the high level radioactive material significantly, lessening its overall toxicity.

Though George Lucas did not live at the ranch, it was a "film-makers retreat." This means that on any given weekend he or his associates may have been there. September 25, 1983, was a Sunday, so a little research would be needed to determine the population of this micro-state. It would survive, but as to how well is dependent on the resourses and the resourcefulness of the live-in staff. Another thing to consider is contact with the California Republic, which reaches to Vallejo across San Pablo Bay from Novato and the ranch. SouthWriter (talk) 20:11, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

My bad, Crim. Don't know why I kept thinking of Edwards as Travis was right in front of me, lol. Look at Travis AFB, not Edwards AFB.

Mare Island is not at Novato.

Moreover, you're wrong about it having "still" conditions. If you look at data on that site, you'll find that aside from temperature, there is little data around that time period. Simply put, they didn't get any data to write down. That is not the same as a "zero." Crim, the area is known for its winds. There was wind, simply put.

Crim, that fallout map, and patterns like that, are long range fallout. Atmospheric winds, and overall wind patterns, over all areas and averaged over the course of a year - wind direction does, in fact, change over the course of a year in many area. Not the short range stuff, or where it would initially go. By and large, of course, the ground winds do follow a pattern similar to that.

But, the West Coast? Not at all. There are many more factors at play, and different winds. The area in question, for instance, is one where there are major disruptions in these patterns. The winds, in fact, generally follow the shape of the bay.

I admit, I misread the wrong column in a table before. That being said, it doesn't change the fact that the area is screwed.

In San Franciso and Oakland, the winds come from the west, right off the ocean. To the south of the bay, in and around San Jose, the winds come from the northwest. But, the rest of the bay(s)? The winds come from the south. Virtually all the weather stations in the area have records saying this is the case, overall, at that time of year. Not a limited thing, either. The winds go northwards to a point well beyond the northern shores of the bay.

Now, think about that. The wind will bring fallout from the two cities northwards. And this was a pair of confirmed ground strikes - megaton sized to boot. While it will turn northeast eventually, the Ranch is screwed. Any survivors will be very small in number, and more or less toast.

Lordganon (talk) 10:50, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Unlimited map games wiki.
Hey would you like to come check out Unlimited map games wiki. It is a website that will have no limitations on mapgames (Time,Nations,ETC) I hope you enjoy!The old baby (talk) 21:32, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hi there,

Just wanted to let you know we are featuring your blog post in the "From the Community" section on http://www.wikia.com/Lifestyle

Hope it helps you get some more players!

Peter 22:25, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies: Reborn
A post by the British is urgently needed since there is a global crisis and Egypt has fallen to Germany.The River Nile-2 (talk) 18:46, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Italy offers you an alliance and,will declare war on Germany next turn. (DeanSims: Talk) 03:40, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
So, I (Mayans) want to cut a deal in PMII. You up for it? CourageousLife (talk) 23:03, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Your neighbor, Manchuria. Their colonies are getting a little to big a little to quickly for my liking. Not to mention that is all they do, is expand their colonies. I say we do a coalition war. You can take Manchuria in it's entireity, with certain trade rights for me, as long as I get their new world colonies. CourageousLife (talk) 23:57, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, why not. CourageousLife (talk) 00:06, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

AvARb
Denmark wants to get back Faroes + Greenland + Iceland and needs British opinion. Regards, Laptop Zombie 09:41, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

I request for the Faroe Islands, Greenland and Iceland. Again.

Also, I have just created Nuclear Powers (Axis vs Allies: Reborn Map Game). Please help me fill that. You're a mod, anyway. Regards, Laptop Zombie 12:51, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Please announce that you cede the Faroe Islands, Greenland and Iceland on the main page. Please. Regards, Laptop Zombie 11:46, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

1914 British Fire
Would you like to Join? Wavy? What now, its so bouncy (talk) 19:38, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

So is the Battle for Earth: TNT still open? I would like to join if it is.

Sorry, the Anon asking to join the BFE:TNT was me.

Italy and its 10 allied offer you full assostance against the insane South Africans, and ask to buy Sudan, in return we will aid in your.liberation of all South Africa and pacify South Africa. You will be allowed full militaru acvess and you ciitizens will gain citizenship, we wish you eould accept,and we also offer all space, missle, and.nuclear resrarch we have. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

thats my offer, Mozambique and Madagadcsr will become italoan protectotates while Sudan will be become two new Italian clients. You do what you wish with the rest. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:03, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, were deciding on war with Geramnys PUPPETS on the conference page, we need your vote please, http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/DITO_(Axis_vs_Allies:_Reborn_Map_Game)#Conferences

Thanks

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

AvA Reborn
I'll accept the deal. -Kogasa  2013年2月27日 17:51:40 (JST)

Personally, I like China. So I won't invade Malacca if you really care(though I will say that your plans to vassalize it are a bit selfish). I'm just letting you know that the Venetians are planning on doing the same from what i've read.AP (talk) 04:10, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Would you please not invade Sundabang and its vassal Jambi please, because Mataram/Orissa have interests there. We will not interfere in any way with Malacca. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:05, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure either Mataram or the SOC (the South Oceans Company) wouldn't mind that at all! Increased trade!! While we are here, Crim would you like to return to Red Sun, as it id your TL.

No one has worked on it much, and I am trying to sort out the human history, but I need to know what you had in mind for the humans and stuff... :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:28, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

As caretaker, sure man! :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:50, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Just a heads up, the Italians invaded Malacca.AP (talk) 00:29, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

How long are we dragging out the war in AvAReb? I already won in the algorithm so what year are we gonna stop fighting?AP (talk) 00:08, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey can you check the moderator page for PM please? We're trying to make a decision but we need your input to the decision making process. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 16:33, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Siam requests that Japan attends the 1944 Eastern Asian Conference (EAC) in the talk page. We thank you in advance. This is UglyTurtle, Signing off. 01:14, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
So, I realize that the Mayans aren't the most plausible nation on Earth. I want to try and change that, because I see that I'm rubbing the mods the wrong way. Do you have some suggestions for actions that you would consider plausible for me to do right now? CourageousLife (talk) 20:06, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, the picture really got the point across! CourageousLife (talk) 17:45, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Speaking of which, how close are you with Manchuria? CourageousLife (talk) 17:54, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we want to invade it. Luxembourg wants the colony on Vancouver, he wants the other one, and you can get the motherland of Manchuria.

17:55, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I thought. CourageousLife (talk) 01:52, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Axis vs Allies
This is Germany. We have a proposal for you. Obviously you have been pushed out of Korea and China. I have a deal for you. After I finish off Yugoslavia, I plan to have a year of peace and then to attack the USSR with the help of Spain, Portugal (vassal), Vichy France, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania. It will not be an attack the USSR will survive. So, I have a deal for you. You can either just sit back and watch the world change without you, or you can participate and get back the northern Sakhalin Island, as well as parts of China. I'm sure Korea's player won't mind getting some land in Manchuria. You can then expand your empire like in OTL to Indochina, the Philippines, Indonesia, and Australia. This is basically a risk-free war for you. You can't lose any more land, but you can gain a huge reward. I, on the other hand, am putting my entire country at risk. So, are you with me? Thanks. PitaKang- (We are the Emperor's Chosen | Ave Imperator!) 18:11, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. PitaKang- (We are the Emperor's Chosen | Ave Imperator!) 13:31, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Omg. I love your icon dude. cool user.AltHistoryGeek (talk) 02:34, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Night of the Living Alternate History
I invite you to participate in the Night of the Living Alternate History. There are many nations still available, and we should be starting soon. Mscoree (talk) 17:18, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
I'd like to discuss several things regarding in-game stuff. Scandinavia would like to increase its trade with the Far East, but its nearest territory is Bengal. That's only good for extensive trading in the Indian Ocean, etc. What we would like is to negotiate the purchase of Hong Kong or the island of Hainan or Macau. We are very flexible.AP (talk) 07:47, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Crim! I have offered help in-game to your campaign against Tibet in return for Kashmir and a small slice of Tibet (negociable). Do you agree to the offer? :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:43, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

I would like this, that is all. And as soon as you accept my offer for aid, I'll be sending you some troops. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:56, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Crim, I got bad news. The war will take 5 years to finish, not two. Appently Collie said it was because Tibet had been inactive soo long its development would be counted like an NPC. :(

You still topple their government though. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 13:01, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Classic collie. Takes his time, lol. And thank you :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:49, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Collie's male right? Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:45, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Really? Just one of those names you're left guessing. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:51, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Australian Aboriginies
Hey i'm playing as the Australian Aboriginies and i was hoping, as one of the mods, if you will look at my posts in 1668 defending the plausibility of what i am doing. One of the mods crossed it all out and i was hoping one of the mods could look at my defence, as no one has replied yet, so something could be done about it. Thanks in advance. Hailstormer (talk) 15:13, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Earth Collaborative Timeline?
So I know you are probably busy with that other collaborative timeline that you just recently started, but I randomly thought of this idea and I thought I should show it to you for your approval. The idea is that, instead of creating a map game about this universe again, we (meaning us two, other previous players of the game, and people who might be interested) create a collaborative timeline similar to Doomsday or something like that.

Obviously, that would be a large undertaking, but it does have some advantages over map games. It would let us moderate the history and articles a little easier. Further still, it would not depend on players for its continuation and "playability," nor would it be deleted should there be a very long lull in activity. Also, since it is not a map game, it would not be overshadowed by games such as PMII.

I'm thinking that the timeline would grow quickly should such a thing be done. There is you, me, Scraw, and perhaps others of the original games who are around pretty consistently, and that doesn't include others who might contribute.

This is just an idea, but let me know what you think.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 21:31, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

That is by all means fine. I just wanted to know if you were interested.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 14:05, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

OC&M
I just had an idea! What if the Prometheus engine was used to complete the differencial engine? That would mean an early computer revolution, and the expansion of the world at a much faster rate. Thoughts? :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 23:01, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, interesting. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:43, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Duplicates
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"Claim an honour"(Of Clockwork and Men...)
Hi. On the timeline you have:

February 8th, 1872: An inventor creates an airship known to be safer and easier to produce.

Can Rembert-Cabal Aeronautics claim the honour of being the firm, with Marzhin Cabal being the inventor?

Please.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 18:20, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Deaths and Great War.
Hi. With my articles I have put both rembert and Cabal dying on the Otl last day of WW1. I am assuming that there will be a world war 1 and have put these dates in as filler. Would I be correct in assuming Germany wins the war?

Also what is your (rough) plan for the Franco-Prussian war? This is rather important as I cannot progress much without knowing if France wins/loses/gets all but killed etc. I'd be happy to come up with it if you don't have one.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:14, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Crimson, please dont hurt Rome in the current events, i havnt done anythnig wrong. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 18:47, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

no you said you smelled current events, good or bad for Rome? i havnt done anything wrong DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 19:26, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

ohhh. i meant to invade Azerbijan and thought it was named Chechnya, i changed it. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 20:33, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Koori Union PMII
Hello, i don't believe we have spoken before so let me introduce myself. I am Hailstormer and i am playing as the Koori Union in PMII. The reason i am contacting you is i am very interested in your Hawaiian colony. You may have noticed i just purchased a large number of islands from Japan, and i wish to expand upon this. In return for your Hawaiian colony i would offer a large sum of gold, a number of resources only found in Australia, an aliiance, and membership of the Koori Trading Company. Membership of the KTC means that you will be able to use the ports of KTC members freely for trade, effectively forming a powerful trade bloc. Currently only me and Japan are members, but this should soon expand. Feel free to get back to me when ready, and i hope my deal appeals to you. Hailstormer (talk) 16:12, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Whilst i am disappointed about Dongfang, i am glad you wish to join the KTC. As i said previously, all members of the KTC shall have free docking and free trading in each other's ports, so i am glad you are willing to accept this. Just two questions. Firstly, do you have a flag? If so could you post a link on my page please as i am making the KTC page atm. Secondly, could you post a request below the Koori post in 1685 for membership to the KTC to formalise this. Thanks in advance. Hailstormer (talk) 19:13, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Ok i have added you to the page. Feel free to request membership when ready so it can be formalised. Hailstormer (talk) 20:06, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

hey the Novrogod Conference has begun now. If you want to join the allaince we can seriously do damage and get you lots more land. Also if you want o secure your western and northern borders please attend, wed seriously love to have you join. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 14:53, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Perfect :) Thank you so much for joiining you wont regret it. We recognize your claims to the Incan territories as well and any other lands you claim as long as they dont interfere with other EA members, those will be mediated by a neutral nation. Can you post what you want on the Novrogod Conference on the EA page?

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:11, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

your claims have been made on the Novrogod Conference onto the map DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:35, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Of Clockwork and Men...
I hate to pressure you on this, and I know there are probaly 1000 and 1 very good reasons out there for your absence, but when are the promised updates to the timeline going to come into being? I would love to continue, but can't. Sorry. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:07, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I thought it would be something like that. I have them too. Irritating things but sometimes OTL gets in the way! Good luck, David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 17:20, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. i've been brainstorming airship desgins for the past week. Can't go any futher. Can you give me an update period? I understand if it's next year or something, just...

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 18:55, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thank You!

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 18:03, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

KTC Trade Council
The 1695 Trade Council meeting has begun (KTC Talk Page). Please add the opinions of your nation to the discussion. Hailstormer (talk) 13:54, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Could you meet me on the wikia chat please? Hailstormer (talk) 15:26, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Chat? Hailstormer (talk) 19:06, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Why would you remove that analogy, it was bloody great! BTW, could I buy one of your colonies in the Americas please. And I will try to convince Viva not to go to war, it is a suicidal move. :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:27, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

You want an alliance with the Arabian Federation? I could do with more formal trade ties with the far east. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 21:49, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, its a good sig. I wanted the colony in the middle of the Pacific coast, your middle one. Would you be willing to sell it to me? Plus, it would finally give me a chance to start up a slave trade. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:35, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

I did in 1710, and did agan in 1711. I'll assume in my 1712 post that China accepts okay? VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:00, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

~Battle for Earth
I ask for permission to begin the new BFE background story/Timeline for all future BFE games. PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 01:49, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to kinda steal Pita's thunder, but I think we are ready for another game. We are also going to start the collaborative timeline, with your permission.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 01:52, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

So about asking people if their nations can be included in the timeline, what should we do if we cannot contact said person? Should we include the nation and simply give them credit or should we steer clear of that completly?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 21:04, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Does the timeline start in the usual 1960s or are we doing a whole new thing this time?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 22:21, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

So, I am sure that you are busy, but when are we going to start the map game?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 12:19, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Will be ready to play.

I Am Walrus (talk) 00:08, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Korea
In PM2, Korea has been forced to be a German client state, and now the people are begining to grow tired of European influence and ask for your nations help in liberating Korea, your population alone would throw the odds in our favor in the algorithm, and if we win you will gain valuable trade deals and right of passage throughout Korea.

Please accept,

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:16, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Sino-German Alliance
I would like to propose an alliance between China and Germany in PMII, since you don't normally respond to in game requests.

18:12, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey China, the Arabian Federation has declared war on Ethiopia so I was wondering if you wanted to join in the coalition to take back your Philippines colony. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 19:56, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

You are going to ditch an ally you have established for a larger while than Germany? And miss out on land in the Americas? Really? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:17, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

You join the algorithm though we have them beat on population. The only thing they are beating us on at the moment. You can have your pick of anything. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:21, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Come on, just do it. Rules were meant to be broken. And so were alliances, pacts, and agreements.

20:23, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from. I am fine with you being neutral. However, for me, its like former Manchuria being invaded. You would throw all your might in - correct? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:27, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey help provide some neutrality in checking the algorithm would you? I'd like you to go over it please. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 18:09, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

PM2 independent mod check
Hello, okay the latest large war has had its algorithm completed. In my mod position I have locked it and I deem it to be accurate and correct. To ensure there is no bias and the algorithm is correct, I'd like you and the other mods who are neutral in this war to check the algorithm to judge if it's correct. Thank you. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 23:44, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

1920 (Of Clockwork and Men)
Hi Could I have a rough outline up to 1920 please?

I am bursting with idea's but need slightly more on the timeline.

Thanks.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 17:39, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Oh and could you check Omega Watches for me?

Battle for Earth Strikes Back! (Map Game)
I would like to but myself in consideration for moderator in your map game, Battle for Earth Strikes Back!. I can help develop a back story, if you wish, as will. For now I've signed up as an alien nation. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 18:30, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad to be a part of this game. Quick question: I don't know if there's rules about making a new alien nation, but I have an idea for an unique nation that was not in any other installments of the game. Is that allowed? Mscoree (talk) 19:06, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

A few more questions: On an unrelated note, I think that this game could use some organization, probably in the form of a portal page. If I understand correctly, the "Prime" page is supposed to be where all BFE-related pages link, so you might as well make that the portal page. I can make this page if you like. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 16:36, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) When/how did I discover hyperdrives?
 * 2) Realistically, how many years should have passed since my nation's first lunar landing to get to this point?
 * 3) What stars are unoccupied, and where should I make my nation's location?

Also are the different map games in parrallel/alternate universes? If so, how does the timeline work? Mscoree (talk) 00:16, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Actually I went ahead and cleaned up the Battle for Earth: Prime a bit, so now its sort of a portal page. Feel free to make any changes. Mscoree (talk) 01:30, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

I wrote down a basic sketch for my nation page here. If you see anything wrong with it let me know. (Sorry for so many messages by the way.) Mscoree (talk) 01:32, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hey man. Seeing as to how I was stripped of all my colonies in the recent war in PMII, I was wondering if I would be able to buy your Washington colony. In return, I'll be willing to send over a few air furnaces (thus solidifying your position as one of the leaders in industry) and be willing to invest in your naval facilities. I would also like to re-affairm my alliance with the new Dynasty and establish a trading pact as I am in dire need of trading. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:44, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Oh man. Well, in that case, I would like to buy Yuanshan in South America. I will send over some air furnaces in return if that is good. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:24, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Can Germany offer anything for all of or part of New Harbin for anything?

02:42, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Youth Revolution (Of Clockwork and Men...)
Hi. An idea I had. Feel free to incorperate or lambast it.

Right: Social changes occur around once every 200 years. So the Promethean Revolution will set back the social media age by around 50-100 years.

The revolution in the 60's, sex, drugs and rock and roll would be set back. Longer lasting victorianism you said. I agree. However the longer WW1 will alter things too, prehaps increasing support for the 'common man'. So whilst it is set back I see it as begining around 2000 with the emergence of Rock and Roll (I'll detail how that is possible later). And in Cuba. Why Cuba? Because Cuba is a colony of Spain. If they don't have independence by then then it will be a symbol of the freedom movement, which I imagine would be quite strong by then. If they are free then it will be less likely but guitar music is Spanish and in the post- colonial generation prehaps it feels like the chains are off?

As for how it would work... Whilst electrical guitars are out of the question I firmly believe one could construct both an amp and an alternative (prehaps a slightly different sound) guitar utilising advanced Prometheus devices. The more I think about it the more it makes sense. Clockwork could make music I reckon.

But this is just me... I know not what you have planned.

Good voyages,

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 18:17, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

PMII China - Zunghar Alliance
Hey I'd like to propose an alliance between the Chinese and Zunghar in PMII. My main goal in such an alliance would be to procure use of your ports to launch my navy and trading vessels. We could help each other through trade and war. What do you say? Starfy (talk) 01:35, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth Strikes Back!...
Hey Crimson, I hope you have those maps ready, because some players are getting worried that the game will die if it is not started soon, and frankly, I agree with them. I rather would not like this one to falil like the others.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 03:21, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Mod event 1743
''' Rheatia, otherwise known as Switzerland undergoes a revolt against France. Nine of the Cantons lead by Bern demand freedom from French influence much to the displeasure of Geneva. They seek Bavarian and Italian protection. '''

do you agree with this mod event, i'm asking because France has taken a expansionist expansion of its right to its vassals and protectorates and full freedom of action within ther nations as far as their actions mean no harm to others, and a like other nations has granted freedom to other ethnicities in the empire almost eversince the start of the game (although as Burgundy), yet nations like wales and germany have not been so favorable towards them, and instead of they being the ones that have revolts often enough, they have become world empires, and france who tries to do so, its been either broken or shattered.

so knowing these, as well as the fact that every main nation of the French monarchic empire is a constitutional monarchy, do you think the mod event is still likely?

Thank you for your answer in advance,i'm just asking to see if anyone would agree with this event, to know if i fight against it or not Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:05, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Myanmmar PMII
I will be leaving the wiki for possibly 3 weeks, so can you post on PMII as Myanmmar before then?Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 17:02, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Candidate for Karikan Throne
Kingdom of Karika: The Queen dies at the age of 42 due to food poisoning, and with no heir the throne is up for election, and the National Assembly will take over ruling the nation until a new King can be chosen.

Karika wonders if you would like to be considered for the throne, upon your King/Queens death the throne will once again be up for election, since the National Assembly holds a large majority of power, basically its like the Russian Monarch, can be removed if the Assembly aproves.

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 21:55, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hi.
Can i have some sort of reponse about my idea please?

Battle For Earth Strikes Back
I don't know if this is allowed, but someone just added their own Human Nation, and it doesn't exist, and he is a completely ASB player, I don't think he understands how these games work Local (talk) 15:51, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry that was me.I just thought that I could add a new player into the war. Oh and its not a nation its a top secret oragnaizationCapt.stark1972 (talk) 17:05, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Seeing as many players can't post, can we delay the start date till Septemberish? If we try starting now, with no real map, an unfinished rules page, and a bunch of missing players, this game will die first round.

Can you kick Capt Stark? He is determined to enslave humanity, which will kill the game, and he chose the same nation on Future Map Game, and killed it by trying to destroy earth, and I don't want this game to die Local (talk)

Can you put the map up pleeeease. Octivian Marius (talk) 23:36, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.
Right. Ok. I understand. the only reason I seem desperate to crack on and keep pestering you is that in September my major exam year starts so I can't do much until late June 2014.

As for what would happen afer the 60's... I have acctually given this quite some thought (mixed in with other notes):

I reckon that: And here's why: I will post more ideas when I have them...
 * Things will go seriously pear shaped.
 * Metal. Whilst I make no claim as to know the true extent of metal depostits it would seem that this world will use them up faster than ours. I notice oil becomes redundant (good), what about coal? if it does not then the same applies.
 * All this mining as people franticaly try to get the last reserves may lead to mass destruction of rainforest etc. Global biosphere damadge.
 * All the metal shaping etc going on will produce pollutants... Climate change on a large scale. Unless... not sure on this point as oil is not used.
 * Either: no space exploration, due to lack of reason to do so (ie comms sattiltes started it and these aren't invented) or mass exploration driven by colonisation or companies mining...
 * UN or LoN becomes open to applications by multinational companies.
 * Communism takes off massivley. The Great war, followed by the depression... and victorian era factories. BOOM! (possibley in France since the Great war took place there, most damadge, if stalemate...)
 * WW2 note. Russia and USA vs Britain and Japan is how I see it going down. USA and japan are leader in the war, over China. Could go either way. Britain and Japan might clinch it.

Rather than have Paris be saved by ground in the Great War could I have Government Rembert-Cabal built airship force save it? Cheeky I know... but if UK and Germany are to slug it out I want France to have something to be proud of. Why not an airforce?

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 17:47, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Help
im trying to get the U.S.A. involved in my tl ww2 and im trying to think of a plausible way for F.D.R. to declare war on the Entente.

the tl is the lusitania lives could you give me a hand?

Nkbeeching (talk) 00:53, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Charlemagne and Irene
I believe that I have seen it before somewhere - not that I remember where whatsoever - but it's definitely rare in AH. Lordganon (talk) 14:29, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Lordganon (talk) 09:35, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

ok, I made States of America: Northern Defeat (Map Game), and even though im still co-head mod, the other co head mod wont let me play my own game. Can he do that? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 22:08, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

can u join chat and tell them that?

they just dont listen to me

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 22:15, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hi again.
When you have time could you take a look at my page for the Justification class airship please? I realise that a lot still needs doing but I have made some assuptions about WW1 which I think need checking. Nothing huge but still...

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 11:39, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

PMII
Why Crim, why??!!?!?!?! Now you have to fight Ethiopia and India for control of the Phillippines. Rex switched sides anyways! You could have Khmer and Nepal and everthing by the Himalayas if you join me! And French and Levantine South Africa, and your South American colonies if you want them back.

20:38, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Accepted. We will pretend this never happened.

23:58, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, can Korea become a vassal of China please? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:03, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

correction can you please annex Korea???? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:04, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Crim, I really need your aid. You stand to gain a good bit if you win against Brandenburg, If I loose, I take the flak, your nation will be safe, either way, you win.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:01, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

In the Ruins of the French Empire
I invite you to join my map game. In the Ruins of the French Empire (Map Game). Octivian Marius (talk) 01:20, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

RC-M1-013 Matilda

 * Third of the five airships commisioned by the British and the last one produced. Originaly commanded by Captain Robert Goodman Kerr, who was killed over Calais, where the airship sustained near fatal damge in a fight with the Lola Montez of Germany, commanded by Captain Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen The Crimson Count. Only one person suvived, an errand boy William Lovegrove, who it transpired had saved the airship from completely crashing, taking the helm in the absence of anyone else being near enough. After treatment at hospital William was premoted to Captain and when the Matilda was fully repaired six months later William was given command. The airship suvived the war and is on display at Darwin, to which Captain Lovegrove had emigrated at the close of the war.

Right. Where to start? Feel free to burn any of this.
 * 1) I've taken to looking up dead military personel and putting them into the stroy. I know prehaps PoD affects them but i'll take a chance and let them fly. I try to make them older so less likely to be affected but in certain cases I just go for a guy that cuts deep.
 * 2) In other words W. Lovegrove. I was browsing and I came across him died on the first day of Pachendale. No age given so likley underage. Perfect Errand Boy material. I've had an errand boy hero story in mind for a while now.
 * 3) Lola Montez - Eliza Rosanna Gilbert, Countess of Landsfeld (17 February 1821 – 17 January 1861), better known by the stage name Lola Montez, was an Irish dancer and actress who became famous as a "Spanish dancer", courtesan and mistress of King Ludwig I of Bavaria, who made her Countess of﻿ Landsfeld. Good airship name I figure, especialy for an ace like Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen who would have a certain amount of naming freedom.
 * 4) I hope I am not too presumptuous in creating the ATL version of The Red Baron, but I came across Wolfram and the opportunity seemed too good to pass up.
 * 5) I'm assuming the German army (or at least their air force) reaches Calais, a minor thing given that in my Espirit de France article I assume they reach Paris.
 * 6) Moving the airship and Captain to Darwin gives leeway regarding the Second Great War. Poised in the north of Austrailia with Japan rising this provides another peice on the board, since Captain Lovegrove is still quite young, though retired (choosing to after the carnage) when he moves so would still be of useful age in SGW. I envision great things for him (Resistance leader followed by Governer-general (!) if Japan invades and is beaten back) but then he might just get killed or become a pow. Your choice.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 11:10, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

PM2 German Succession War Mod check
Hello, okay the latest large war has had its algorithm completed. In my mod position I have locked it and I deem it to be accurate and correct (minus a few issues which have already been highlighted). To ensure there is no bias and the algorithm is correct, I'd like you and the other mods who are neutral in this war to check the algorithm to judge if it's correct. Thank you. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:03, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Romae Delenda Est Begins
The first turn has started for Romae Delenda Est, LET THE GAMES BEGIN! Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 15:42, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

William Lovegrove
Could you check this page please? Comments would be appreciated. Yes parts still need finishing, I'm waiting before I know a little more of the Great War before I continue. One thing about working with the airship side of things is they can fly over enermy lines, so don't have to follow the trench lines, meaning I'm not trying the front lines down in any way. I'm assuming an end to the war in 1920 but I'm not putting in much by way of dates, referencing events instead ("a year after the war" for example) to allow fluidity.

Here's a rough hash of how I want to progress William's life: Of course all of this is little more than smoke at the moment. It depends on the Second Great War. he could just hold progressivley higher minor political roles... or die a martyr.
 * Courts and Marries Felicity
 * Sheep farming
 * 40's depression - sheep unsustainable so he enters politics
 * gets a minor position of some sort on a Darwin or North Territory level
 * 50's Japan invades
 * Rises to prominence as a resistance leader or somesuch..... The Matilda might be technically obselete but she still has a brace of cannon....
 * In OTL Prince Henry became the Australian Governor - General. That might happen around the same time but after he ends his term he suggests William for the post as he is vastly popular, with experience in politics and a good friend.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 13:57, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hey.
Hi. You've been on, I've checked your contributions. Could you spare 5/10 minuites on William Lovegrove please? I'd like to continue bu I want to check what I've written is ok first as I'm at the turning point in his life. Sorry to pester you.


 * David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 10:32, August 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the apparently high number of edits in the space of a few seconds. Tried to put a sad face in using colon, hypen, open bracket, but the thing wont dispay the colon! (Sad Face)


 * David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 10:34, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Cascadia PMII
Hello.

I'm planning to give Kasodani (Japanese colony in North America), independence sometime in either 1807 or 1820s. I was wondering if you're interested in having New Manchuria declare independence and merge into Kasodani to create some kind of Cascadia type nation.

What do you think? -Kogasa  2013 August 13, 03:42 (CET)

Hey Crim, couldn't help but see this convo, why not just invade that colony? He has been doing a lot of wars atm and you got a stronger nation too. I'm just thinking we need more colonial/american wars, especially east coast. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 10:31, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Probably not around until the 1880s or 1900s. -Kogasa  2013 August 13, 14:58 (CET)

Wow. Okayyy.
Right. Ok. That's... unexpected. Thank you. I'll think about it but I have an important year coming up which is why I was getting at you. If you are really serious and not just getting me to reconsider my tactless message in light of how much the creator of a timeline acctualy has to do then you'll need to explain exactly what a Prometheus device does to me... I never completley grasped that.... yes that's embarassing. Thank you.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 14:19, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Right. Thank you. I think I will but I have a feeling I'll be popping back to ask your opinion quite often. I may have the Promethius 2.0 as another 'weird gadget thing' rather than an improved verson as I struggle to see how it could be improved (rather like coming up with a new design for the wheel... oh) right scrap that. Yeah. I'll take it with a great amount of thanks. You'll get a cameo or some aknowledgement and a massive thanks on the main talk page for the project.

Thank you.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 15:34, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Vandalism/Changing the Story
Hey Crim. I just wanted to call attention to (if you haven't already seen), an important change in events in the past 24 hours. I have gone into a lot of detail on the talk page, but for now I just wanted to make sure you were aware. Pretty much, Hailstormer editted a turn 16 hours late, and then went ahead and changed the course of Brythonic history with that one edit. This is really quite important to me, since me whole nation supposedly just vanished in 24 hours that I was in between turns. ~Rex.

PMII Byzantium
As it stands i beleive the things for nations have always been first come first serve, a moderator Yankovic has just taken the Byzantine empire which i signed up for... i dont think he can do that mod or not and i want that contested. &#35;LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:50, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Mice and Men Companies
I've recently been making pages for the timeline "Of Mice and Men". I was wondering if I could have permission to add the companies page to the timeline template. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 18:36, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Can i speak to you on chat please? Hailstormer (talk) 21:20, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Chat now? Hailstormer (talk) 13:38, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good. Hailstormer (talk) 13:44, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Just things
Hey Crim. I can see that Magnum is going well and it is good to see a timeline being created. I was wondering if you could take a few moments and read what I propose to add to the Red Sun TL. I know you have given me free reign, but I sure would like your opinion. Thanks. :) Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:14, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Its about time too, lol. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:59, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Alert
Operation Dragon Downfall is underway. Operation Icy Night is a go. ETA 4 and counting.

                "Fear the power    of the Dark Side of the Force."  00:05, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Attention. Status of Operation Icy Night changed. Must discuss.

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Meet me on chat ASAP.

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Will do.

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E-mailed you on the status of the Operations. CourageousLife (talk) 20:47, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Right then! Let's do this.

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Your turn.

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LEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS!

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Me and you win the war by ourselves in four years. We should get the algorithm locked ASAP. Shall we begin dividing the land?

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I checked the algo over and over, but I'm pretty sure Collie will find something wrong. -________-

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I'm mostly worried about Viva coming and pulling some random BS on us.

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I can't recall either... But Italia has cordial relations with China since the revolution of the Gang Dynasty. Scandinator (talk) 09:34, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Lot of lightsabers over here. I will probably forced to stay neutral. However I would like you to come to chat to discuss things about Red Sun. The hobbits aren't really going to make themselves... :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:04, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

No man. Sorry. :( Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:13, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Red Sun Stuff
Hmm, interesting. Have a look here. I plan on making those hobbits peaceful and spiritual and excellent philosophers. However, they also will be excellent strategists (don't know why, but I have this feeling that if Sun Tzu can write the Art of War, then they can be war strategists). Yea, slightly more frodo-ey would be fine. However I think they should be like around 5 ft?

Mantis Shrimp? Hmm. Maybe with elements of the giant Squid? :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:36, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

When does BFESB start? Mafia (talk) 17:51, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Don't see why not. :) Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:58, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I mgiht as well tell you what I think will happen with regards to history. I feel that the civilisation on Terramyde will move faster than OTL. Plus add the fact that civilisation began earlier in ATL, you get a world pretty different from ours.

My ideas are pretty lofty, but I think it might just work. So, civilisation moves to the point where a IV World War is imminent. The world has already witnessed 3 world wars, and has had quite a long time for tech to evolve. Somehow the war starts and ends up killing around 30-45% of the world's population. From there, the world decides that they need to unite to ensure that they work together and this does not happen again. From here, the emphasis on Space will have many heading to Greenland and the Moon and building, at first, outposts and then civilisation.

What do you think? :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:05, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. And that is pretty much what I thought Greenland should be like, lol. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:29, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hello
Hello. The Gir's and Sings of Asia 20:21, September 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I am good. The Gir's and Sings of Asia 20:42, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

War
Seems that the algoritm's far from over. I posted some stuff that was left out before the algoritm was locked. Check it out under the discussion. CourageousLife (talk) 15:40, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Are we wrapping up this algorithm yet? CourageousLife (talk) 20:22, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Battle for Earth
Yes, I'll still be playing. -Kogasa  2013 September 09, 22:04 (CET)

I'll be playing. No worries. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:04, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

No offense, but that is not a fair question. Of course I'll be playing. :)

Also, Scraw and I are mods too, Crim. If you need help, ask and we can help.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 20:09, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Same as the above.

Well duh. Been waiting for this for months! CourageousLife (talk) 20:25, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Still active. Did you just send this to everyone? I have been making edits to my nation page throughout this period Mafia (talk) 20:38, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Me playing Octavian, Hail Marius (Play With Oct!) 21:39, September 9, 2013 (UTC) I am able to play as both Turkey and the Veridians! Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 23:47, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Of course I'm ready. :P

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I'm in. Daeseunglim (talk) 01:58, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

I have important messages for you. Czech your messages.

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Crim, i know that i pretty much betrayed you, but could you please help me put down the Hellenic Union and their coalition, Please. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 00:56, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Chat? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:34, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Dude, am I banned in the game or not cuz I am a tinsy little bit confusedRatc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 23:54, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

PhewRatc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 10:48, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

PMII: Urgent, Top Secret
Hey, so Russia has really just overextended itself by going to war with 3 NPCs all at once. As Persia, I can easily gain entrance into this war, which Russia is already barely winning, and then proceed to turn the tables on them and begin to annex their lands.

Pros: Cons: Now, I am also asking Yank, as Scandinavia. Here is a demo algo with just Persia and Scandinavia. Now, imagine adding China, and you have a full blown 33% victory, where we can get what we want and still leave Lx with a nation to play as.
 * Russia just lost Germania (huge ally)
 * Chance for complete overthrowal (not that we'd use it, but we'd leave a Russian rump state for Lx)
 * Gain lands in Sibiria
 * Minimal risk of intervention (everyone is too war weary)
 * Russia is already almost losing in the Algo.
 * Tiny chance of losing

Russia
Total: 65+chance
 * Location: 4+3+3+3+3+4/6=3.333~3
 * Tactical Advantage: +1 (Attacker's Advantage)
 * Strength: Russia(L)/Minsk(L)/Ukraine(L)/FDC(L)/Astrakhan(L)/Suomi(L)/Riga(M)/Saami(SV)/UKA(S) = 30 = 0
 * Military Development: 30+30+30/135 = 0
 * Economy: 30+30+30/135= 0
 * Infrastructure: 0
 * Expansion: -0
 * Motive: 3+3+3+3+3+3
 * Chance:
 * Edit Count:
 * UTC Time:
 * Nation Age: 5
 * Population: 28
 * Participation: 10
 * Recent Wars: -0
 * Recent Wars: -0

Coalition
Total: 98+chance
 * Location: (5+5+5+3+4+4+3+4+4+3)/10=4
 * Tactical Advantage: +7 (High ground, Larger Empire)
 * Strength: Kazaks (L), Cosapact (L), Akmola (L), Iceland (L), Norway (L), Sweden (L), Denmark (L), Svalbard (L), Persia (L), Baghdad (L), Kuwait (MV): 42/30=1.4=1
 * Military Development: (10+10+10+15+15+15+15+15+15+15)/90 =1.5=2
 * Economy: (10+10+10+15+15+15+15+15+15+15)/90 = 1.5=2
 * Infrastructure: 9
 * Expansion: 0
 * Motive: 10+10+10+3+3+3+3+3+3+3=51
 * Chance:
 * Edit Count:
 * UTC Time:
 * Nation Age: (5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5)/10=5
 * Population: (?) 7
 * Participation: 10
 * Recent Wars: -0
 * Recent Wars: -0

Results Interested? 08:45, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * ((y/(z+y))*2)-1
 * ((98/(65+98))*2-1
 * 20.245% maximum claims
 * http://tinypic.com/r/wmmtud/5

Ethiopia and stuff
"Secret." Silly Rex. Anywho, we should claim our crap that we gained from Ethiopialand.

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We never even claimed anything. I just added some few parts of my claims.

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BFE
How do you feel about a... as yet informal... biopunk-cyberpunk alliance?]

Think, perhaps, a wee bit faster? I'd rather be in a solid position as comes to Ms declaring war on me. Please? We both gain something; Centria is a budding superpower, on the verge of tier-4dom, who also have alliances with many in the galaxy, and the Mech have, you know, the strongest military of all time.

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 19:05, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

And I also have the possible agreements of Viva and Local to aid us.

The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 23:48, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hey crim, I got to ask you if you wanted to start 1968 turn now.Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 00:57, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

OK, so we have Local for sure, and with Viva, I think we'll be practically unstoppable.pity we couldn't get Ms, but I'm sure Scraw will choose not to go to war with us, and that should slow down the Dravimos.

Wow. That was interestingly NOT helpful.

You know how you didn't support me?

Nice pic though.

Well frankly, if you don't come in soon the FB will overwhelm me. Next turn? (1968.75)

Or maybe 1969?

FFS CRIM. FFS.

Contrítio Planetaria
Dude, I am going to have to notify you about a change, turns out Oktoberfest is the name of a German festival soooo I changed it to Contrítio Planetaria, if you have a better idea for a name, please submit at the talk page.Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 00:54, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Uhh, crim, I once again decided to rename the game, this time to Planetary Destruction, so I need your permission to turn it into a BFE Prequel if possible. So can I make it a prequel?Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 17:57, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hello CrimsonAssasin. Tks for telling about Massive Impact. I was looking for a game to join and that one looked cool.