Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3218619-20121215004047/@comment-4621372-20121225145122

God Bless the United States of America wrote: I think you all seem to be overlooking the facts of this shooting, however. Mr Lanza had stolen the Guns from his Mother after he KILLED her. She had gotten the Guns completely legally, and Connecticut is rated 5th in the nation for Gun Control by the Brady Campaign. Gun Control would have done nothing in this case.

I think we all need to realize that there will always be other Lanza's, and disarming a population only makes them more vulnerable. Look at Britain for instance. After Dunblane, they inacted strict Gun Laws, but the violent-Gun crime rate shot up massively. Only lawful people buy Guns legally, while Criminals get them through illlegally means. Gun Control only makes you less safe, because now the entire population is sheep, and they are the wolves.

And by the way, the 2nd Amendment is NOT just for Hunting. The Founding Fathers often made quotes on the fact it was made to oppose tryanny should it ever gain a foothold in our Republic. No, it is not just for Hunting or Sports shooting, but an equalizer to defend our rights set forth by the Constitution of the United States of America.

Finally, everyone go look up the recent Oregon Shopping Mall shooting. The Gunman there was starting his ramapge, but was then confronted by a man using concealed carry. According to this man and other eyewitness, the Gunman spotted him, and then killed himself. Not considered if that man using his Right to Bear Arms hadn't been there? How many more would've died?

In the final equation, Gun Control just doesn't work. Ahh, I see your logic. One day you may have to overthrow a tyrannical government, and you intend to be well armed till then.

My refutations, in order:

A) And if his mother couldn't have gotten the guns, due to a ban on semiautomatics and automatics, then he wouldn't have gotten the guns either!

B) What the hell are you talking about? The US has 30x as many gun murders as Germany, as roughly the same number to the UK, percentage wise. Both of the latter have much stricter gun control.

C) If you honestly believe it is even viable to o'erthrow the government, should it become tyrannical- which I'm not sure how it would- then I have nothing further to say here.

D) Again; psychos like these DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GET GUNS ON THE BLACK MARKET. Only serious criminals, professionals, do- and they realize that killing just isn't good for business. Anyway, we can't stop them.

Any way, it's impossible to stop, say, heroin users, or crack addicts, from going back, or to stop the dealers from dealing. Are you then suggesting we should legalize this? No matter how hard we try, we will never eliminate murder. Are you then suggesting we should legalize that?

Your so-called 'final equation' is both faulty and misleading.