Board Thread:Timeline Discussions/@comment-85.230.36.240-20130928191750/@comment-1086710-20140609165542





 I agree that the person that wrote this, really do not have any idea about the situation at this point in the war. The D-day invasion could have failed if the Nazies found out about the plans and acted accordingly, BUT, England would NOT fall. The royal navy still had controls of the seas and the royal airforce control of the air.

 Don’t forget, Britannia rules the waves, Britons will never be slaves.

 What would have happened, had D day failed, would of course have shaken the allied morale, but don’t forget that at this point the eastern front had collapsed and the red army was gaining grown. Hitler could not afford fighting the British and the Americans, and neither could they. A more likely result would have been a ceasefire. The british knew that concentrating too hard on fighthing the nazies would just lead to soviet dominance over eastern Europe, they had went to war to protect polish independence.

 The Americans did not listen to Churchills reluctance and insisted on unconditional surrender, BUT if the D day invasion failed, that idea would no longer have seen feasible and a more prudent British approach would have been won.

 This would have lead to a chesefire between the western allies and the axis powers of Europe. The allies would have waited cautiously in Britain, while mobilizing and watching the situation on the eastern front.

 And with only one front to concentrate on the Germans would be able to stop the Russian advances, but neither would the be able to destroy at that time, heavily mobilized red army, which means that they would be at a standstill.

 Eventually they too, knowing the futility of fighting, agree to a ceasefire.



 Now, the Manhattan project who ended the war, did not play as big a role here, not just because fighting would have already ended at the time of its completion but also because nazi AND communist spies would quickly steel the secrets and develop their own nuclear warheads.



 The final result would be a cold war consisting of three alliances rather then two. The Japanese empire would continue to exercise a great control of Chinese costal cities, but the American and British navies would have pushed them out of the many islands they had occupied doing the war.



 So we would have this triangle cold war, where each group of allies would scramble for influence without actively fighting each other, due to the threat of nuclear war. When the nations of Africa gradually gained their independence some would ally with Anglo-America and become democracies, some with Russian and become communist states, and some with Germany, and embrace fascism.



<p class="MsoNormal"> However throughout the 1960’s there would continue to be resistance in Nazi occupied Europe, and with the death of Hitler around 1968 the Nazi government stands without a leader, someone steps forward, and like in china, economic development eventually out rules ideological principles, which leads to the Axis power continuesly nearing the Anglo-Americans, which of course worries the communist to no end, as what they feared above all else was that the “capitalists” would join together against them.

<p class="MsoNormal"> This finally around 1980 leads to the scenario that we all feared, a desperate sovjet first strike against allied and axis cities. The retaliation is immanent and the result is a fallout like dead world.