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Gerald Lumley and Robert Bradford votes for XX Patriarch of the Northern Rite in an attempt to quell the rising differences between the Latin and northern rites combined with also supporting allies in Brandenburg.
 
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==Cardinals==
 
==Cardinals==

Revision as of 00:33, 14 December 2016

College of Cardinals
Type Electoral body
Legal status active
Purpose/focus Choosing new Pope
Headquarters St. Peter's Basilica
Location Rome
Official languages Latin
Parent organization Catholic Church
Affiliations Pope

The College of Cardinals is the collection of Cardinals within the Roman Catholic Church. Each Cardinal is appointed by the Pope and represents the upper echelon of the Catholic Church.The College is responsible for selecting the next Pope whenever the incumbent dies or decides to resign. 

Rules for Players

For more player involvement, each player will be able to decide the vote of his or her respective Cardinals. If you do not sign off in the section below before the next turn after the Papal death it will be assumed that you are not interested in voting and your votes will go to Callum. NPC votes also go to Callum. 

Since the reform of Leo X in his 1506 Bull Ecclesiam Cardinalibus, in order to be elected Pope, only a simple majority must be obtained. As there are fifteen Cardinals, there must be a vote of eight in order to become Pope. You are allowed to vote for yourself, but it is discouraged. 

Current College

The current College is composed of fifteen Cardinals. Unless otherwise stated, Cardinals are appointed on the Feast of the Assumption: August 15. 

Name Position Appointed Nation
Markus Fugger Bishop of Augsburg 1497

Augsburg

Gerard Lumley Archbishop of York 1515 England
XX Patriarch of the Northern Rite 1520 Brandenburg
Luigi Pampani Vicar-General of Rome 1522 Papal States
Franz von Werden Bishop of Stettin 1533 Brandenburg
Alessandro Peroni Patriarch of the Latin Rite 1534 Papal States
Nicolas de Villiers (lay) Hospitaller Grand Master 1536 Hospitaller New Rhodes
Antonio da Cunha Archbishop of Lisbon 1537 Portugal
Matteo Bortolucci Bishop of Ostia 1537 Papal States
Robert Bradford Archbishop of Canterbury 1537 England
Stanisław Strzelecki Archbishop of Łodz 1539 Poland (Council of Catholic Counts)
João Martins Archbishop of Braga 1539 Portugal 
Diego de Orbe Archbishop of Toledo 1539 Iberia
Andreas Boonen Bishop of Mechelen 1539 Burgundy
Aldrich von Munster Archbishop-Patriarch of Cologne 1443 Cologne

Papal Conclave, 1404-1405

This College was composed of fifteen Cardinals, down from sixteen in the last Papal Conclave in 1389. Strikeouts represent Cardinals who died in the process of selection. 

Name Appointed Nation
Landolfo Maramaldo 1381, December 21 Naples
Angelo Acciaioli 1384, December 17 Florence
Francesco Carbone Tomacelli 1384, December 17 Naples
Angelo d'Anna de Sommariva 1384, December 17 Naples
Rinaldo Brancaccio 1384, December 17 Naples
Bálint Alsáni 1384, December 17 Hungary
Ludovico Fieschi 1384, December 17 Genoa
Enrico Minutoli 1389, December 18 Naples
Cosimo Gentile Migliorati 1389, December 18 Naples
Cristoforo Maroni 1389, December 18 Rome
Baldassare Cossa 1402, February 27 Bologna
Pietro II di Candia 1402, February 27 Milan
Antonio Caetani 1402, February 27 Aquileia
Thomas Pupio 1402, February 27 Provence
Lope de Mendoza 1402, February 27 Castile

Please cast your votes for a particular candidate below. 

  • Lope de Mendoza votes for himself. ~Edge because Mp is a bum
  • Pietro II di Candia nominates his close friend, Francesco Carbone Tomacelli, for the esteemed position of the Pope. ~Rex
  • Ludovico Fieschi votes for Francesco Carbone Tomacelli. ~Oct
  • Balint Alsani votes for Cristoforo Maroni ~Lieu
  • Thomas Pupio votes on his Castillian friend, Lope de Mendoza. ~Nic
  • All of Naples's cardinals (Maramaldo, Tomacelli, Sommariva, Brancaccio, Minutolo, and Migliorati) vote for Naples's eldest clergyman in the College of Cardinals, Landolfo Maramaldo. ~Pyra
  • The other four cardinals vote for Cosimo Gentile Migliorati. -MP

Because no one was voted in as Pope this turn, the vote will go into next turn. Maroni is eliminated, leaving only Migliorati, Maramaldo, and Mendoza to contest the papacy. Vote below.

  • Ludovico Fieschi votes for Landolfo Maramaldo~ Oct
  • All remaining Neapolitan cardinals continue to vote for Landolfo Maramaldo ~Pyra
  • Pupio votes on Lope de Mendoza. ~Nic
  • Mendoza votes for himsel again. ~Edge
  • Pietro II di Candia casts his vote for Landolfo Maramaldo. -Rex
  • Balint Alsani votes for Angelo Acciaioli ~Lieu
  • Angelo Acciaioli (just realized I control Florence, and ergo Acciaioli) votes for Landolfo Maramaldo. ~Rex
  • He was a cardinal from Florence before you conquered his home city, he won't vote on your behalf. -MP
  • Florence votes for Angelo Acciaioli while the other two vote for Maramaldo. 

With nine votes, Maramaldo becomes Pope, taking the name Innocent VII. 

Papal Conclave, 1415-1417

Name Appointed Nation
Angelo d'Anna de Sommariva 1384, December 17 Naples
Rinaldo Brancaccio 1384, December 17 Naples
Ludovico Fieschi 1384, December 17 Genoa
Baldassare Cossa 1402, February 27 Bologna
Thomas Pupio 1402, February 27 Provence
Lope de Mendoza 1402, February 27 Castile
Jacobus Palladinus de Teramo 1410, February 27 Milan
Christian Ahlefeldt 1410, February 27 Norway
Pileo de’ Marini 1410, February 27 Genoa
Knut Bosson 1410, February 27 Sweden
Giordano Orsini 1414, February 27 Naples
Dživo Sorkočević 1414, February 27 Ragusa
Pedro Martínez de Luna 1414, February 27 Aragon
Gil Sánchez Muñoz 1414, February 27 Aragon
Angelo d'Accostella 1414, February 27 Rhodes

Jacobus Palladinus de Teramo votes for Ludovico Fieschi. -Rex

Dživo Sorkočević votes for Lope de Mendoza -Sky

Angelo d'Accostella votes for Knut Bosson

Ludovico Fieschi and Peilo di Marini vote for Fieschi. ~Oct

Pupio votes on his dope niqqa Lope for Pope. ~Nic

Knut Bosson votes for himself. ~AM

Christian Ahlefedt votes for Knut Bosson -Belial

Everyone else votes for Accostella. As a result, the vote is now limited down to Accostella, Bosson, and Fieschi.

Ludovico Fieschi and Peilo di Marini vote for Fieschi. ~Oct

Both de Luna and Munoz vote for Fieschi. ~Tim

Christian Ahlefedt votes for Knute Basson- Belial

Angelo d'Accostella votes for himself ~Cal

Pupio somewhat disappointed Lope is not elected, votes for Accostella

Dživo Sorkočević votes for d'Accoestella ~Sky

Knut Bosson votes for himself ~AM

Everyone else votes for Accostella, except for Teramo who votes for Fieschi. As a result, the vote is now limited down to Accostella and Fieschi. 

Both de Luna and Munoz vote for Fieschi. ~Tim

Christian Ahlefedt votes for Accostella ~Belial

Thomas Pupio votes for Accostella ~Nic

Angelo d'Accostella votes for himself ~Cal

Dživo Sorkočević votes for d'Accostella ~Skah

Knut Bosson votes for d'Accostella ~AM

Jacobus Palladinus de Teramo votes once more for Ludovico Fieschi. -Rex

Everyone else votes for Accostella, except for Genoa's cardinals because Oct is lazy. As a result, Accostella is elected Pope by a vote of ten. He takes the name Callixtus III. 

Papal Conclave, 1448-1451

Name Appointed Nation
Lope de Mendoza 1402, February 27 Castile
Dživo Sorkočević 1414, February 27 Ragusa
Jean d'Orleans 1425, January 12 France
Heinrich Flozenberg 1436, January 13 Austria
Giovanni Corelli 1436, January 13 Italy
Juan Carlos Cortez 1436, January 13 Castile
Francis du Plessis  1436, January 13 France
Ferdinando Sporeto 1436, January 13 Naples
John Novelli 1440, January 13 Papal States
Littorio de Foreno 1440, December 20 Papal States
Carlos Fransistos 1440, December 20 Aragon
Giovanni Neoveno 1440, December 20 Papal States
John Kristatos 1440, December 20 Greece
Joseph Angelos 1440, December 20 Greece
Andrew Polemos 1440, December 20 Hospitallers

OOC NOTE: Lope de Mendoza would've died in 1445, so probably isn't visiting us at this Papal Conclave.

Ferdinando Sporeto nominates his friend, Giovanni Corelli.

Plessis votes on his Castillian friend Cortez.

Fransistos votes for Cortez of Castile. ~Tim

Dživo voted for Cortez ~Skyboi

John Kristatos and Joseph Angelos of Greece vote for John Novelli of the Papal States. -NathanialPrice

The three cardinals from the Papal States and the Hospitaller cardinal all vote for Cortez. ~Cal

Giovanni Corelli votes for John Novelli. Ferdinando Sporeto also changes his vote to Novelli. -Rex

Everyone else votes for Cortez (because they've had a chance to vote). Cortez of Castile becomes the new Pope and takes the name Callixtus IV. 

Papal Conclave 1477-1478

Name Appointed Nation Number of Votes Voted?
John Novelli 1440, January 13 Papal States Y
Littorio de Foreno 1440, December 20 Papal States Y
Carlos Fransistos 1440, December 20 Aragon 1 Y
Giovanni Neoveno 1440, December 20 Papal States 1 Y
John Kristatos (Greek Rite) 1440, December 20 Greece
Joseph Angelos (Greek Rite) 1440, December 20 Greece
Andrew Polemos 1440, December 20 Hospitallers Y
Giovanni Battista Orsini (lay) 1475, September 29 Hospitallers Y
Gunther von Rantzau (Reformed Northern Rite) 1475, September 29 Brandenburg Y
Fernando Perez 1476, August 15 Castile 10 Y
Pedro Manrique 1476, August 15 Castile Y
Emmerich von Berg 1476, August 15 Cologne Y
Antonio Ortolano 1476, August 15 Italy Y
Maxim Konstantinov (Bulgarian Rite) 1476, August 15 Bulgaria
Thomas Rotherham 1476, August 15 England Y

NOTE: Information in parentheses is an impediment to being elected to the papacy (ie they are a layman or are not of the Latin Rite). All cardinals, regardless of such impediments, can still vote. 

Votes:

Cardinal Carlos Fransistos nominates Fernando Perez for the Papacy.

Cardinal John Kristatos nominates Maxim Konstantinov for the Papacy.

Cardinal Joseph Angelo supports the nomination of Maxim Konstantinov for the Papacy.

As the Note above says, being of a non-Latin rite is an impediment to being elected. Feel free to cast a vote for any of the Cardinals without information in brackets. ~Cal

Cardinal Antonio Ortolano nominates Giovanni Neovano for the Papacy.

Cardinals Novelli, de Foreno, and Neoveno cast their votes for Perez. 

Rotherham votes for Perez

Cardinal Emmerich von Berg casts his vote for Perez.

Cardinal Gunther von Rantzau casts his vote for Perez

Cardinal Pedro Manrique supports his colleague and fellow Castilian Perez in his run for the Papacy.

Cardinal Fernando Perez nominates his Aragonese colleague Carlos Fransistos.

Cardinal Andrew Polemnos and Grandmaster Pierre d'Aubusson (Lay) vote for Fernando Perez.

As Perez has gained the majority required (10 votes) I think Perez would now be the presumptive Pope-elect. ~Tim

Yup, I agree:

Habemus papam! Fernando Perez of Castile succeeds his countryman to the Throne of St Peter and takes the name Leo X.

Papal Conclave 1520

Name Appointed Nation Number of Votes Voted
Littorio de Foreno 1440, December 20 Papal States X
Carlos Fransistos 1440, December 20 Iberia X
Giovanni Neoveno 1440, December 20 Papal States X
John Kristatos (Eastern Rite) 1440, December 20 Bulgaria X
Joseph Angelos (Eastern Rite) 1440, December 20 Bulgaria X
Andrew Polemos 1440, December 20 Hospitallers 1 X
Giovanni Battista Orsini (lay) 1475, September 29 Hospitallers X
Primate Gunther von Rantzau (Reformed Northern Rite) 1475, September 29 Brandenburg
Fernando Perez 1476, August 15 Iberia X
Pedro Manrique 1476, August 15 Iberia X
Rhoderich de la Mark 15--, August 15 Cologne X
Antonio Ortolano 1476, August 15 Italy X
Maxim Konstantinov (Eastern Rite) 1476, August 15 Bulgaria 4 X
Thomas Rotherham 1476, August 15 England 8 X
Markus Fugger 1497, August 15 Augsburg 1 X

Cardinals from NPCs will be controlled by mod random determination. Also, please remember that although you are voting now, the actual election is taking place in 1520. So do not write about the election in your turns until 1520.

Hold up, just realised. Don't the rules above give me the NPC votes? ~Cal

Sorry Cal, you're right. -scraw

A surprise at the College of Cardinals! Cardinal Orsini tries to convince his fellow Cardinals that the men of the non-Latin rite should also be eligible for the papacy. He seeks the support of the Cardinals from the Bulgarian, Northern, and Greek Rites. -scraw

Papal States: The two States Cardinals are willing to accept the idea, but point out that as the Patriarch of the West and the bishop of a Latin-Rite diocese, the Papacy is a Latin-Rite position, meaning that were a non-Latin to be raised to the Holy See, he would have to be proficient in the Latin-Rite rubrics. They both vote for Rotherham

I think the Hospitallar is an NPC.

The Knights Hospitaller: Cardinal Andrew Polemos rejects the notion of Cardinal Orsini and instead votes for Markus Fugger. It is suspected that he may have been bribed. -S

Markus Fugger votes for Rotherham.

Rhoderich de la Mark votes for Rotherham.

All Iberian Cardinals place their votes for their English colleague Rotherham.

Thomas Rotherham is honoured by people supporting him. He agrees that the Pope and Catholic church is a Latin rite and so it would be insensible for someone of the non- Latin rite to be nominated. He nominates Andrew Polemos

John Kristatos, Joseph Angeolos, and Maxim Konstantov (also reigning as Ecumenical Patriarch currently) All vote for Cardinal Konstantov (this is 2 votes only is it not? not sure about the rules on self voting).

Callum just a note, yes i am voting eastern rite again, but there is a specific purpose and its not something that can be negated, this is a clear disunity in parts of the church. -Feud

Np dude, I'm going to have an Ecumenical Council to sort this stuff out. ~Cal

Antonio Ortolano votes Rotherham. ~Cal

Orsini votes Konstantinov to prove his point. ~Cal

Habemus Papam

After an unusually heavily contested Conclave, the Englishman Rotherham is elected Pope in 1520 by the closest of margins, coming to the throne of St Peter in a time of clear disunity and distrust throughout the Church. 

Papal Conclave 1545

Name Position Appointed Nation Number of Votes Voted?
Markus Fugger Bishop of Augsburg 1497

Augsburg

Gerard Lumley Archbishop of York 1515 England Y
Himler von Stein Patriarch of the Northern Rite 1520 Brandenburg 2
Luigi Pampani Vicar-General of Rome 1522 Papal States
Franz von Werden Bishop of Stettin 1533 Brandenburg
Alessandro Peroni Patriarch of the Latin Rite 1534 Papal States
Nicolas de Villiers (lay) Hospitaller Grand Master 1536 Hospitaller New Rhodes
Antonio da Cunha Archbishop of Lisbon 1537 Portugal
Matteo Bortolucci Bishop of Ostia 1537 Papal States
Robert Bradford Archbishop of Canterbury 1537 England Y
Stanisław Strzelecki Archbishop of Łodz 1539 Poland (Council of Catholic Counts)
João Martins Archbishop of Braga 1539 Portugal 
Diego de Orbe Archbishop of Toledo 1539 Iberia
Andreas Boonen Bishop of Mechelen 1539 Burgundy
Aldrich von Munster Archbishop-Patriarch of Cologne 1443 Cologne

Remember that although you are voting now, the election does not take place in-game until 1545, so do not mention it in-turn until then.

Additionally, since the reforms of the Council of Cologne, any Cardinal can be elected Pope (although electing the layman de Villiers would be unusual since he would have to be ordained a priest, then a bishop, then made pope; and electing Fugger would be unwise since he's about a million years old)

Votes: 

Gerald Lumley and Robert Bradford votes for XX Patriarch of the Northern Rite in an attempt to quell the rising differences between the Latin and northern rites combined with also supporting allies in Brandenburg.

Fugger votes for himself.

Cardinals

Below is the section where you may propose Cardinals to fill in seats left vacant by a Cardinal's death. Please try to restrain your proposal to one Cardinal per nation, unless you'd like the risk of the College being filled by an entire nation of Cardinals, which is no fun anyway. 

  • Samuel Tóth, Archbishop of Bohemia
  • Mario Moltisanti, Archbishop Of Milan

Footnotes