Look Out, Sir! (Map Game)

Information

North Africa

The year is 1943. Italy's unreadiness to fight in the Second World War contributed to the down fall of Hitler. Not in this timeline. Italy had taken the Balkans and North Africa without German assistance. The horrible Italian defeats in Egypt and Libya in our time never occurred. The small British forces in Egypt were destroyed by the Italian Army, and so was the Balkan's resistance. However, British forces in other parts of North Africa continue to fight on.

Soviet Union

This leads to Germany not having to divert it's forces to North Africa or the Balkans, conserving time and troops for Operation: Barbarossa. This has lead to an earlier invasion of the Soviet Union, giving the Wehrmacht more time to advance in Spring and Summer.This leads to the capture of Moscow and many other German targets for Barbarossa, and the fall of the Soviet Union. Stalin, being bolder in this timeline, stayed in Moscow even though of reports of German troops approaching. He dies days later and Moscow is taken. The Soviet Union officially surrenders. At least, for the west. The Eastern Soviet Union has consolidated some retreating forces behind the Ural Mountains. Stalin's plans of also moving industrial power farther east has given the Eastern Soviet Union the power to produce tanks and planes, albeit slowly. An unsteady peace has been made between the two nations. Although both secretly plan on attacking each other in another point in the future.

Pacific

The Japanese forces that did not make it to the Battle Of Midway in our timeline, did in this one. The extra 2 light carriers, 5 battleships, 6 cruisers, and 35 support ships made the Japanese with the Battle, leading to Yamamoto's plan becoming a reality. The Japanese invasion of the Aleutians were more successful as well because of this, and the Aleutians were also taken, threatening Alaska.

Britain

With the downfall of the Soviet Union, Britain's plan of having the USSR and USA help them is already half obsolete. They still rely on America, though, and refuse a peace in Germany proposed. Germany, after this, is now plotting either re-igniting the Battle of Britain, or finally doing Operation: Sealion. (The German player will have to make up his/her mind on which plan to enact). With America's fleets concentrated on the Pacific, the Atlantic is left open to the Germans, and Britain is cut off from international supplies.

Asia

The war in Asia concerning Japan continues on as it has in our time line.

Rules

1. No implausibility.

2. Each turn is three months.

3. Turns begin at UTC 00:00

4. Don't edit past posts.

5. Resistance in countries will be determined on a scale of 1-5 using Random.org. This roll must be done at the beginning of each turn to determine resistance for the territory gained last month. You must roll once for each country in which territory you have taken. You must deal with this resistance before progressing further into the country.

1=No resistance.

2=Little resistance.

3=Moderate resistance.

4=Heavy resistance.

5=Citizen revolt.

6. You may only control one nation, but may release nations as puppet states.

7. Puppets act as allies, and must help the nation they are a puppet of at all times.

8. Moderators have to ability to do plausible, and fair events for any and every country.

9. Moderators decide what technology countries can research. This depends on the country's current economical state in game, and technological state in game and in our timeline.

10. You cannot switch countries unless yours has been annexed or made into a puppet.

11. The game ends in the current year.

12. New players can start the year they joined.

13. A page for your nation is strongly recommended. Be sure to include military strength and population count.

14. Moderators determine what is plausible and what is not.

15. Moderators designated as map-makers are the only ones allowed to edit the map.

16. A map will be made every six months.

17. A nation historically with one side will stay with that side until they choose to leave by the minimum year of 1953. Leaders cannot leave. Example: Italy can leave the Axis beginning in 1953, but Germany may not. If one side is defeated, the winning side will determine the outcome of the defeated side.

18. Nations designated as 'Empires' control only their mainland, so Britain controls only Britain, but they're colonies world wide are classified as puppet states for them.

19. Colonial empires of nations conquered will become apart of the country who conquered the home country. Example: France conquers Netherlands, Dutch colonies become apart of France.

20. Nations classified as 'major power's' cannot be taken without a vote from the moderator staff whether or not a player can take it.

21. You can only build up two of these things at a time: infrastructure, military, economy.

More may come.

Moderators

1. Blocky858 (Head Moderator, Game Creator)

2. Majordomo SkyGreen24 (Second-In-Command Moderator, Official Map-Maker)

3. Local Mafia Boss

4. TheMaster001

5. SwankyJ (talk) 00:10, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

(Further positions may open depending on game size)

Map

The map of the world.

Nations

Europe

Third Reich (MP) - Blocky858 (talk)

Fascist Italy (MP) - OCT MARIUS, HAIL HIM

Switzerland -

Sweden - You want me to sign this? I'm afraid I can't do that

United Kingdom (Empire, MP) -Spartian300 (talk) (Removed due to being an unexperienced player) Now played by Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Nationalist Spain - Agent001

Portugal - 

Vichy France (Puppet of Third Reich, Empire, MP) -

Vatican City -

Liechtenstein -

Andorra -

Monaco -

Ireland -Spartian300 (talk) 11:08, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Asia

Empire Of Japan (MP;GEACPS) - SkyGreen24

China (MP) - What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 02:08, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Eastern Soviet Union (MP) - SwankyJ (talk) 00:10, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Mongolia (Puppet of the ESU) -

Tibet -

Nepal -

Kingdom of Thailand (GEACPS) -

Tannu Tuva (Puppet of the ESU) -

Bhutan -

Azad Hind (GEACPS) -

North America

United States of America (MP) - Ratc3333 Here, Prepare for Combat (talk) 14:00, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Canada (Puppet of UK)

Mexico -

Cuba -

Haiti -

Dominican Republic -

Puerto Rico -

Panama -

Nicaragua -

Honduras -

El Salvador -

Guatemala -

Costa Rica -

South America

Brazil - The Royal Tank (talk) 00:01, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Argentina - Saturn120 (talk) 16:58, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Uruguay -

Paraguay -

Chile - Ajman1424 (talk) 17:18, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Colombia -

Venezuela -

Peru -

Ecuador -

French Guiana (Puppet of Vichy France) -

Guyana (Puppet of UK) - 

Suriname (puppet of the Dutch, currently occupied by US for defensive reasons) -

Oceania

Australia (Puppet of UK) -

New Zealand (Puppet of UK) -

Africa

Liberia -

Ethiopia (Puppet of Italy) -

Middle East

Turkey -

Arabia - http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Nlenhardt

Iran -

Pakistan - 

Notes

1. This map game is for information purposes to create scenarios to see what would have happened in World War Two went this way. I'm not biased towards either side. This is also supposed to last until the modern age to see the outcomes + the nuclear age, if it even comes, after this altered WW2.

2. I did not include Africa and the Middle East as playable countries because from my experience, no one takes Africa or Middle East in a map game, no matter what time period it is. If you want me to include them, I will. INCLUDED AFTER POPULAR DEMAND

3. I have not included all the colonies due to how many there actually are.

4. Please tell me if I have forgot a country or added an extra one that isn't supposed to be there.

5. The battle and war systems will be posted at a future date on the talk page.   SEE ANNOUNCEMENTS

Announcements

Land Battle Algo has been posted Blocky858 (talk) 08:04, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Land Battle Algo has been updated Blocky858 (talk) 08:50, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Please try and get more people to join Blocky858 (talk) 04:59, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Any puppet states not taken before game start do not get their own color on the map Blocky858 (talk) 06:06, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Africa and Middle East included for play Blocky858 (talk) 11:20, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

San Marino is no longer playable. Sky is now official map-maker Blocky858 (talk) 11:23, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Ireland is now playable. Blocky858 (talk) 11:28, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Rule update and a new mod Blocky858 (talk) 12:05, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Naval Battle Algo posted Blocky858 (talk) 09:05, February 24, 2014 (UTC)'

Editted some rules and when the game will start Blocky858 (talk) 23:44, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Map has been posted on the main page Blocky858 (talk) 23:55, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Moderators have been fully selected and all required nations are filled. The game starts today. Blocky858 (talk) 00:15, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Game

The game will start once we have a majority of the countries filled up or until otherwise.

The game will start when all Major Powers (except Vichy France) are filled.

Game start is TODAY.

1943.0

Mussolini is attacked while on vacation in Italian-held North Africa by a joint Egyptian-British mob. He survives, but has a broken left arm and a concussion.

Adolf Hitler tours Moscow as Mussolini was on vacation in North Africa.

In the UK, the population becomes very antzy as the Germans begin re-positioning their armies on the English channel.

In Asia, French Indo-China is torn into civil war between the natives and the colonists. Japanese troops there are attacked by Vichy French soldiers, who cannot tell the difference between the natives and the Japanese. 12 Japanese die and 5 French before the French are chased off by artillery fire from ships off-coast.

Argentina joins the Axis and begins building up military forces.

Chile joins the axis and starts building up navy

•  Third Reich: A squadron of four Bf 109's fly over the coast of Britain to survey it for possible invasion. The TIger II and Jagdpanther begins production. Air Aviation companies begin making designs for short-ranged bombers that can carry a heavily bomb load, but have decent armor. The bomber should only have three defensive machine guns- one in the tail, one below the fuselage, and one above. Designs from Heinkel, Junkers, and Dornier are all submitted. Any foreign country is offered a substantial amount of money if they submit their design. Tanks are also prepared for the invasion. Designs of tanks with heavy armament, low armour, and intermediate mobility are being looked for. The tank must also be able to survive marshy landscapes. German tank companies work on their models, but foreign models are once again welcomed, and any country that submits gains money.

• Argentina dip offers to send 4 different tank designs for free with the Third Riech agreeing to offer us protection in South America.

• East. Soviet Union: The Red Army rebuilds a massive military. And produces more arms from the factories to prepare for invasion.
  • ESU dip: Requests an alliance with Japan, and a NAP with the Third Reich.
  • TR Dip: We accept.
  • Japan Dip: We accept.
• China: We seek to end the war with Japan, we build up our military and economy, while attempting to work on infrastructure. The government seeks a new home for the capital, as Bejing is occupied by Japanese forces.
  • ​Japan Dip: We shall reconsider the proposal if during Operation Hawaii the Chinese navy sails along the Japanese one and during which the leaders of China stay in Japan untill Operation Hawaii is over.
  • Chinese Dip: China will only agree to this under the conditions that China is returned the land taking from them, with the execption of Manchuria, which may stay under Japense occupation.
• Sweden: Sweden reaffirms its neutrality in the war. Nevertheless, the military, navy and Air Force are mobilized and stand ready. Sweden respectfully declines the German contract, looking to keep any designs for its own defense.
• America: We begin to focus on retaking the Aleutian Islands and the island of Midway and Admiral Nimitz attempts to lead an offensive into Midway to retake the island while General George Marshall leads the attempt to retake the Aleutian Islands. We attempt to put General Douglas MacArthur out of retirement, since need him right at the present time. We begin to deploy our forces into South America to stop Argentina in its tracks as we ask for the nations of South America to join us against the Axis. We begin to build up our fleets in the Atlantic to rush to assist the UK with new technologies, such as sonar and advanced radar led by General George S. Patton. Meanwhile on the home front, we begin to ramp up production on our fighter craft and the P-51 Mustang by North American Aviation begins production and production is ramped up on war material and vehicles. We begin to station troops in Southern Africa that is controlled by the British in order to commence stationing troops there. SECRET: We ask for the Eastern USSR to attack the Germans once they rebuild their forces. We continue the Manhattan Project to develop a nuclear bomb for our nation to use against either the Japanese or the Germans.

British Radar & Sonar is superior to yours

• SECRET: We accept, if we can forge an alliance.
• US Secret Diplomacy: We accept your offer for an alliance.
• Arabian : Arabia to further its economy has built 4 oil refineries at 16 billion$ and are now selling oil for 4$ a barrel and gas 7$ a barrel.
• Nat. Spain: Francisco Franco decides to join the Axis. The nation builds up its own military and asks alliance with the Third Reich and Italy.
  • TR Dip: We accept.
• Japan: With French agression in Indochina we decide to send more soldiers to calm the situation. We work on our navy as we officially plan Operation Hawaii. We ask our new ally the ESU to help us both with weaponry and with manpower. Due to our occupation of the Aleutean Islands and Midway we attempt to intercept American information and tactics. Secret: We send out diplomats to Mexico where they shall discuss a secret alliance and co-operation during Operation Hawaii.
• Argentina: We Start to build up our military as we prepare for war. We are making weapons at an amazing rate. We send 250,000 men for border security fearing an attack from the north. Our economy growth is slowly speeding up. We send navy ships out in the Pacific to support the Japanese War efforts in the pacific.
• Chile: We start building up our navy to help the Japanese war support in the pacific. Our economy is starting to increase as we start making Warships.
• Britain: Clement Atlee is appointed PM, after Winston Churchill resigns. Atlee sends a diplomat to Nazi Germany, offering to sign an Armistice, as neither of the two Countries can destroy each other. Spitfires take to the skies once more, and the 109s are destroyed. (Britain has absolute air superiority at this point in the war) Britain respectfully declines the American "Assistance" with Technology. Bombing raids on Germany are discontinued.
  • TR Dip: We accept the Armistice with Britain.
• Brazil:secretly asks for soupport from USA and UK to free axis influance from south america. navy army and  air force are built up.
  • Argentina dip: Secretly asks Japan and the Third Reich for troops in preparation for a surprise allied attack. troops are told to fire if fired upon.
    • TR Dip: We accept the offer and prepare to send the 20th Panzer Gren, 25th Panzer, Panzer Gren. GrossDeutschland, 179th Reserve Panzer, 29th Infantry, 99th Light Infantry, 18th Artillery, and 7th Parachute. This brings the total count of infantry to approximately 135,000 men, with around 350 Panzers, 90 Artillery Pieces, and 600 Fighters and Bombers.

1943.25

Britain and Germany agree to an Armistice, which is the end of the war in Europe.

Armistice ends the war.

German troops land in Argentina, reinforcing the Argentinian army.

The Vichy French government officially apologizes for the actions of their troops in French Indo-China.

The American fleet loses the Battle Of The Aleutian Islands.

A harsh winter storm engulfs Alaska, Scandinavia, and Northern Russia. 

Adolf Hitler is attacked in Moscow, like Mussolini. He suffers minor injuries, but the city is then essentially burned to the ground in response to this action. Russians begin rising up in the east, also in response.

With the Battle of the Aluetian islands being lost, the news spread quickly causing unrest in the American nation as the Pacific War does not seem as successful as expected and the current government is being criticized for its decisions. 

• Third Reich: Plans for the new bomber are found, developed by Heinkel. It is called the Heinkel 121. It has a max speed of 540 KPH, with a maximum range of 2,700 KM. A service ceiling of 7,000 meters. It has three 20mm machine gun cannons, in the spots requested by the Luftwaffe. It is a minor step above the Heinkel 111, which has been used for a long while, and is obsolete. Production begins in the summer of next year. The tank which would have invaded Britain is found, and designated as the SumpfGeher I, or SfG 1. It is based on a wider Panzer 38t chassis, and has triangular turret design, with a better 5,5cm gun. It is the better of the designs to be submitted, although it is not what the Wehrmacht were expecting. It has a top speed of 40 kph, 30 mm of armour, and of course, the 5,5cm gun. It has a hull-mounted MG-42. Due to the wider chassis, it also has wider tracks, would would have helped it in the marsh conditions. Production begins next year in the summer.
• British Diplomacy: We request a NAP with Germany, or a military alliance.
• TR Dip: We accept an NAP.
  • Armistice means the war is over, so you would not still be preparing to invade...
  • That size of tank is basically impossible, and that design is infeasible in the extreme
  • If you don't mind, I fixed it to your standards
• Argentina We invade Southern Brazil and Uruguay. We ask for all Axis nations to support in our efforts in invading Brazil and Uruguay in our conquest of South America. We send our troops and the Third Reich aid into the Uruguayan territory's and into the southern part of Brazil up to the city of Curitiba and fire at all the troops along the way we send another 65,000 men across the border with 100 Henshels with current aid. Our Economy increases drastically because of the tank and warship productions. We send a request to Italy and Japan to help us in this effort, as it would be an important victory for the Argentinian race and for the Axis. We start working on our Nuclear Program to create a bomb to keep the US in check.
  • Argentinian dip we would like to ask Japan, Italy, and Spain to help us in South America. All countries are welcome to help
• America: We are able to get General MacArthur out of retirement and we deploy troops to the South American front to keep Argentina in check. We decide to find a way to get the British back on the Allied side again, but now the only question that remains is:how? In the meantime, General Patton is reassigned to South America, since Europe is no longer much of a problem unless the EUSSR moves in into German territory. We attempt to insistigate civil unrest in Germany and Vichy France as well as Italy in order to overthrow the German and Italian governments. We decide to continue manufacturing on the P-51 Mustangs and we go ahead and ask for a contest sponsored by the US Government to create new designs, all of which will be applied based on feasibility and practicability. We ask for the rest of South America to join our side on the Allied cause, seeing that Argentina is turning into a problem. We decide to launch another offensive against the Aleutian Islands after the Second Battle of Midway while simultaneously launching an offensive to retake Uruguay, led by a joint Brazilian-American force. SECRET: We continue the Manhattan Project and urge for the EUSSR to take advantage of the uprising in Western Russia to help stop the Nazis in their tracks, while we distract them in South America.
• 'China:' Our offer to Japan stil stands, as does the conditons of said offer.  The military and economy are expanded. A focus on our naval power begins in an effort to ecexeed the Japanese expectations. If Japan is willing, we will enter talks for a Treaty to end the Second Shino-Japanese war.
• Ireland: Troubled by the continued war in the pacific, Irish President De Valarie publicly states his support for the Allies, such as the USA and Soviet Russia. However, he dose not states his support for Britain, but secretly has down allied aircraft pilots driven back to Northern Ireland. He begins attempting to improve the economy of Ireland, and calls upon a "United Nations" to be formed to replace the League of Nations. He makes plans to open an embassy in Berlin and Rome. Dublin undergoes major infrastructure development.
  • 'Argentinian Dip we agree with Ireland that some kind of United Nations to try to keep our country's and colonies in check. However, we think that we should have some type of United Nations within the axis called Achsenmächte to keep in touch with each other.
  • Dude... Ireland did this throughout the war. They would drive allied aircraft pilots back to Northern Ireland. I have proof.
• I know, but, and this may be hard for you to understand, THE WAR IN EUROPE IS OVER. THERE ARE NO DOWNED ALLIED PILOTS. Also, Northern Ireland is UK
• Chile we support Argentina and attack the Falkland Islands with out built up navy as we deploy our 6 new carriers and 20 battleships to invade the islands.

The Falkland Islands are British. Britain is not at war with you. Also, Chile cannot afford even 1 carrier, and no Battleships. Jesus... Chile did have one battleship, by the ay, but no carriers. 1 =/= 20

• Britain: Britain moves troops into Northern Ireland, following the Irish aggression. British Troops are withdrawn fro all theaters, and the Royal Navy moves to the Falkland Islands to protect their neutrality. British Troops arrive on the Islands. A new Spitfire is unveiled, reaching unparalleled speeds. Atlee, and the Labour Party, bring in a revolutionary new National Health Service, which is wildly popular. British Forces are withdrawn around the world, and the British Dominions are instructed to remain strictly neutral in any conflicts. A request is sent to Japan, requesting they cease any attacks on Australia and New Zealand, or Force will be met with Force.
• Sweden: Sweden is glad that hostilities are at an end, at least in Europe. Sweden wishes to establish trade with the Third Reich and Britain. The recent war has convinced many in the government to invest more in national defense, and new ships, planes and tanks are developed.
  • Britain: Accepts
  • TR Dip: We accept trade
• Japan: As we celebrate our two victories two new battles hit our naval forces. Operation Hawaii is quickly adapated to the current situation and is planned to attack in Winter, a news which is sent to the members of the Axis.
  • Argentinan Dip:SECRET Asks if Japan if they would like naval assistance on operation Hawaii. We would send 1 destroyer and 5 warships as well as 2 aircraft carriers.
  • Chinese Dip:We ask that Japan negotiate the terms of our co-operation during the planned Operation Hawaii.
  • Irish Dip: We condem Japans aggression.
  • British Diplomacy: We request that the Japanese refrain from attacking Australia, India or New Zealand at any point in the future, as this would force us to declare war.
  • Irish Dip SECRET: We request that britain help us improve our military by supplying weapons. Ireland shall remain neutral, of course, but the fact remains that tensions are still high in Europe, and we could find oursleves fighting for our lives. It is in the intrest of self defence.

1943.50

American forces arrive in South America to combat the joint Argentinian-German forces with the Brazilians.

The Japanese forces still fight on in the Pacific, to the condemnation of the Allied forces.

The revolts in Western Russia get worse as the Germans suppress them.

The Falkland Islands become a point of interest for many of the nations of the world.

The storm in the northern regions of the world continues.

Third Reich: A new design in tank destroyer, the Fallensteller I 'Anakonda' , or FaSt 1, is designed for the wars in South America. It is based on the Panzer III chassis, with a rhombus shape on top, with the sides sloping to the ends of the tank. It has 80 mm of armour, and the 10,5cm Stu.H 42 L/28 howitzer with High-Explosive Shells, found on some Hetzer and StuG III models. It has a new engine with higher horse power, used for quick re-positioning and elimination of forest obstacles. The max speed is 45 kph. The SfG 1 project is put on the back burner while focus shifts to this new model. Production will be done next summer.

We also send a Panzer Grenadier division to put down the uprisings in Russia. Production of Tiger models continue, along with the TD models of the Tigers. Flamethrower production increases as we prepare for the inevitable invasion of the Amazon. We ship 100 of the water-proofed Panzers that were supposed to take part in Operation: Sealion down to Argentina to support the other Panzer IIIs and IVs we have sent down there.

We begin bombing Brazilian cities and suspected military convoys of the Americans and Brazilians. Heavy tanks are withheld from service in the jungle, where we fear they might do poorly. Production of medium, light tanks, and tank destroyers continues for the South American campaign, named 'Operation: Vulture' by the German High Command.

Argentina We have came up with a new air bomber called Bombarderos Aire 1 it is the size of a 3 mini-vans and has the firepower of 2 1/4 rifles. It's production begun immediately and is now being used in the invasion of Brazil, and in emergency crisises across the country.

We are sending some of our new bombers to the Third Reich to keep the ESU in check and some to japan to help defeat the Americans in the pacific. Again we ask help of any country in the world to help us win this war ALL ARE WELCOME TO SUPPORT THE AXIS.

We also begin the bombing of Brazilian Power plants to cut power from the allies. We are sending another 700,000 men, 250 Bombarderos Aire's, and 9 warships along the coast to invade Southern Brazil as we begin 'Operation: Vulture' to invade Brazil.

America: General Patton's and General MacArthur's men are deployed to Brazil and Admiral Nimitz decides to launch 2 more additional offensives into Midway and the Aleutian Islands in order to retake both positions with both forces equally strong in size. We deploy some forces to Hawaii to protect the islands. We continue to ramp up production and we launch Operation: Pacific Freedom as a major offensive lead by Admiral Nimitz and Operation: Amazonian Storm to counter Operation: Vulture lead by General Patton and General MacArthur, with their assistant General Einsenhower. We deploy the P-51 Mustang to counter the German attacks, while simultaneously deploying it in the Pacific to establish air dominance over the region that is within range of us and to assist in the Second Battle of the Aleutian Islands and the Third Battle of Midway. and ask for any nation on the planet to assist the Allies. We also ask for the UK to rejoin the Allies, fearing the fact that eventually the Germans will betray the British people. We begin bombing German locations in retaliation for the bombardments against our convoys and begin fortifying whatever free areas of Brazil remain and the rest of South America.SECRET: We continue the Manhattan Project and begin to send support to the rebels in Western Russia and ask for the EUSSR to attack the Germans when they finish rebuilding. We begin designing and producing the M26 Pershing tank and begin deployment in South America. We begin speeding up production of the P-59 Airacomet, made by Bell Aircraft and begin deployment of them in South America and the Pacific to assist the P-51 Mustang.