Red Giant Sun

Welcome to the Portal Page for Red Sun, an alternate history that takes place at the birth of our very solar system, and causes a ripple effect like no other ever found.

Point of Divergence

A long time ago, some four and a half billion years ago, in a galaxy not so far away... the solar system was but a spinning disk. The planets were just forming; the sun merely an infant star. However, stellar winds have brought with it more mass, and with higher amounts of hydrogen and helium present, the sun accumulates much more mass than it does in OTL.

Something occurs where the sun becomes a red giant.

Mercury and Venus never formed, and what would be Earth became a barren rock, never forming to be as large as it was in OTL. When a large body struck it, both planets were destroyed - their remains flung deeper into the proto-solar system. Mars, however, could have developed life. Yet where the asteroid belt would have been, a gas giant, Ceres, formed. Ceres caught Mars in its orbit and Mars became a moon.

Jupiter and Ceres eventually began orbiting each other, and Mars was ripped apart by the gravity. Many moons in the orbits of both planets were ejected. These included the proto-planets around which Europa and Terramyde would form; Europa becoming a water world while Terramyde became an Earth-like planet.

The majority of moons ejected from Ceres soon combined to form a planet which would eventually become Greenland. Greenland would, in-time, develop a thick, humid atmosphere and a landscape dominated by rainforests, tropical trees and woodland at its polar regions. When a few of Saturn's moons were destroyed by a collision, the planet formed a dual ring system.

Uranus never developed. What would have been the planet was distributed between the rocky planets and Neptune, which developed more moons; Pluto and Charon being some of the moons. The planet's storms grew worse, and a permanent dark spot now dominates the planet in the same way the gread red spot dominates Jupiter.

And so...

  • Perhaps the most important point of all, the development of Humanity takes a different course. As humans began to gather in tribes, the planet warmed up. This created something of a biological boom. Soon, two new species were clambering out of the shackles and arriving onto the scene as intelligent beings in their own might, affecting development on the planet.
  • An interest toward the heavens is the basis of religion on the planet, stirring continous interest upward to its moon - which shines a pretty green and blue every night over the planet. You can only guess how excited the astronomers were in the age of the industrial revolution...
  • The calander works differently in Terramyde compared to our own widespread Georgian Calander. The way to figure out dates is still pretty easy, however (once I decide on a calander that is).
  • Mars became to be seen as hell, as the solar system evolved differently, and today can be seen as just another barren moon in the solar system. Although its volcanoes are pretty darn active.
  • Earth's remains have either been destroyed or become asteroids, save for a rather sizeable asteroid that has been confirmed as the remains of Earth.
  • Cultures began to contemplate the moon as heaven as the industrial age helped more people get their hands on a telescope. By the time they were prgressing out of the era of coal factories, speculation was already rampant.
  • The discovery of Greenland only helped to add fuel to the fire - another blue and green body in our solar system, compared to the completely blue Europa, where a sentient aquatic race formed.
  • The civil rights movements in this world were a thing of confusion and dragged on for decades - fair enough when you consider the human feminists weren't quite impressed with their hobbit counterparts while the giants couldn't really give a care (issues of equality within giants were settled with a show of strength with many a male left red-faced after being throughly driven into the ground by a female).



  1. Ceres
  2. Jupiter
  3. Greenland
  4. Europa
  5. Terramyde
  6. Saturn
  7. Neptune
  8. Newton (Theorized by several until 2221, when it was confirmed real. It lies beyond the Kuiper belt.
  9. Altaïr (Flung out beyond Sun's gravitational pull. Became a 'rogue planet'. First thought to be a star)

Other things:

The timeline of humans on Ganymede is is that of a long and interesting one. Since the emergence of humans some 15,000 years ago, many civilisations have risen and fallen and today, the world is united in a single country.

In this unique timeline, humans aren't the only sentient species on the planet.

A collection of all the flags used in the TL.

A collection of all the maps used in the TL.

The Geopolitical situation on the planet is simple. There is only one nation for all, with a strong internal foundation and a prevailing sense of unity.

A Note

Because of how much could be played around with here, there is always a wild desire to name everything something wild and wonderful. Unfortunately, this would make for a very taxing read and thus for the sake of simplicity most plants and animals found on OTL Earth would also be present in Terramyde (though a red rose on our planet could be white on Terramyde). This does not mean everything is the same, as although the human history of the planet may follow in a similar direction to ours and names would be recogniseable - you may never come across an Andrew Fegel in your life. Ask a Terran who he is and you could get anything from a look of disbelief to outright laughter ("you must be jesting, everyone knows who Andrew Fegel is!").

The aim of this alternate history is to be an interesting read, and be as plausible as you can be with 3 sentient races, various habitable planets and a united world by the end of it.

It's also to make Crim proud but between you and me, reader, we don't really want Crim to get a big head do we?

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