- It looks like a grand catastrophe or the biblical Apocalypse/Armageddon and mankind's recovery à la 1983: Doomsday to me. The latter might get interesting with the rapture and all. Hell, it might even become the next big community project... --XterrorX (talk) 21:38, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
- i can't wait to see how this turns out. Wingman1 01:25, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hey. I'm interested in working on this Apocalypse 2012 page and I'm interested to know more about who exactly survives and who doesn't. Let me know if you'd like some input.
It's a community TL, just sign up, I think.
Let's get started
Is this Timeline still on, or is it dead?
If the former, can I please have a full launch reason and a list of hit nations?
Okay, I have returned to this wiki (again), and I have retired from all major map games. About this TL, I'm very interested, having seen the only real Apocalypse timeline that is not tiny and dead is 1983DD, and I have no intention of working on it. I especially would like to work on the Pacific Northwest region of the US and Canada (as usual). If you'd like to talk to me, send me a message on my talk page, or reply on this talk page, and let's get this TL off the ground!
I honestly believe the Strike List needs to be finished before anything can occur in this timeline. I can help on the strikes in the Southwestern portion of the United States. I live out here, so I pratically nowhere every major city and military base is located. I can also help on US Carrier Strike Groups. Enclavehunter (talk) 23:49, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
I have been tasked with the UK and Ireland (though I will need help with the latter).I have some preliminary ideas but these will be entirely dependent on two things. How many nukes I have to play with and the weather. I am looking forward to this. Is it going to be a 'live' timeline? David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 10:02, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, so far this is how it stands. Lx has Canada or Russia, David UK&Ireland, PitaKang has Korea, Enclave has the SouthWest USA, Kogasa has Japan, Fed has Northern South America, Katholico has Southern South America, Andr3w has Germany, Austria and Swtizerland, and finally I'm overseeing Italy, China and Oceania. The Royal Guns will be managing fallout and destruction. Scandinator (talk) 23:40, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, the plot is that Israel is invaded by a coalition of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt with secret support from many Arab states after the Arab Spring leads to a radicalisation of the governments. Israel on the brink of collapse launches as many nukes as it can across Muslim nations (including the taliban-controlled Pakistan). Pakistan attacks India, India retaliates and also fires on a few major Chinese cities as well as obliterating the Qinghai Nuclear Launching Grounds (which only can reach India and Southern Russia) with multiple groundbursts. Meanwhile russia blasts the crap out of Israel for hitting Volvograd (accidently) and also attacks NATO nuclear bases (in Europe and the USA) pre-emptively, NATO attacks China and Russia. China is caught between US and Indian nukes and launches NATO and its allies but most of its nuclear forces are knocked out before they can launch. Russia then launches on secondary and teriary targets within the USA while blasting NATO nations' key cities. Russia also supports Cuba by attacking key pro-USA nations. North Korea joins in on all the fun but loses all of their missiles but two en-route. One fails to detonate but Darwin is destroyed by the other. Scandinator (talk) 15:13, December 23, 2012 (UTC)
Germany goes on High Alert as Nato's Western Command is based in Germany, NATO authorizes nuclear exchange with China and Russia, First Targets in Germany will be NATO Command, Kaiser Wilhelm Naval Base, and industrial/production centres in Hamburg(largest port) Berlin, Frankfurt Au Main, and Munchen. Due to Russian pre-emptive strikes, majority of German and Polish nuclear sites are now offline, NATO Command will manage to give the order shortly before being Blitzkreiged by Russian ICBM's. Austria and Switzerland go on defense, but too late. Austria manages to luanch a few NATO weapons, and the few NATO sites left in Switzerland launch, Naturally, Brussels, Belgium(HQ for NATO, note it is different than NATO Strategic Command in Germany and Mons, Belgium.) The other 10 command HQ's broken down into three seperate echlons are also targeted throughout Western Europe, in France, Germany, Poland, Austria, Switzerland primarily.Andr3w777 (talk) 17:58, December 23, 2012 (UTC)
Every NATO command base is hit in the first strike except for their command ships. France, Turkey, Italy, Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands fail to get a single nuke to hit as chaos reigns and their nuclear airbase runways are destroyed and planes shot down. France's nuclear submarines are trapped in Brest where they are sunk, UK loses 3 of its 4 nuclear subs in port with the last one in the South Atlantic. The Russian first wave is massively successful and prevents any nuclear retaliation from Europe but the US manages to fire some 200 nukes at Russia till their Minutemen are put out of commission by groundbursts. Austria and some smaller European nations are not targetted at all since they are either not a part of NATO or too small. Scandinator (talk) 23:31, December 23, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. SO as far as I can tell (and with a few assumptions)
Russia and China are on the same side here. India is Pro-America but has relationships with Russia, so only nukes China and Pakistan. NATO etc same as OTL.
Ok, fine. Two questions:
A) What about the Chinese and Indian Carrier gropus (India has two, and a third being built, China has one)
B) Apart from Pakistan, who's hitting India?
India nukes China only because they fear the Chinese will take advantage of the chaos that would unfold in India and annex Indian lands after the collapse of the Indian government. The Chinese navy is destroyed in Dinghai and Sanya by American nuclear device and Indian nuclear device respectively; while Inida loses almost all its navy in the strikes on coastal cities with naval bases including their carrier INS Viraat. The second Indian carrier is lost in the hit on Severodvinsk, Russia where it is currently being repaired. The third is still under design.
Project on Standby
I will be going on holidays till the 10th of January. The Sites list will be finished soon after. Guns will create a weather map for the world at the moment of Apocalypse and the results will be used to chart fallout. Nations will begin to stabilize/form in early February with New South Wales, South Africa, Chile, Thailand and New Zealand the most powerful nations on the planet. Secondary nations would be Japan, Korea, Sicily, Austria, Rio, Cuba, and a Russian and US survivor state. Scandinator (talk) 12:19, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
I found this website, www.wunderground.com, and I have used the history tab under local weather, inserted December 21, 2012 or December 22, 2012, and has given actual records of weather from the closest National Weather Service, and estimates for areas without weather stations.
You knew this was coming!
Would I be able to get control of India. I want to explore different options for the country (no, the country will not become super-expansionist). Would that be ok? Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:06, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
India? Got the shit kicked out of the North by Pakistani nukes and the South finished off by Chinese ones. Maybe a few states around Kashmir, which didn't get nuked for sure. Perhaps one or two around Chennai (but as the only team Chennaite on this wiki, I call.)
Tell you what, we'll split it down the middle. North of the Deccan is yours- south is mine.
Right. By the way, I've done some things with the weather page. Tell me what you think. The Royal Guns (It's a PUN, people. I'm not saying I'm royal. And the name is GUNS.) (talk) 23:52, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
How did South East Europe fare, Do you want me to make small nation states like india, or pretty decent sized ones?I could make a nation out of crete and have a few nations in Bosnia.The old baby (talk) 13:48, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
South East Europe fared relativly well. While Croatia, Bulgaria, Greece and Romania were hit for being part of NATO and thusly fragmented. Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro and Serbia become the most stable nations in the region. With most governments putting their nations into states of emergency to attempt to reorganize food, water and heating supplies. There are no splits in these four nations. You are free to create nations or maintain a nation so long as it agrees with the canon. Scandinator (talk) 14:43, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
Well. From what I've seen, nothing major has happen, besides the Apocalypse. David Rain made a few survivor nations in the UK, I've made the nation and history page for South Africa and started a surivor nation in the US. Scan is still working on the Strike List and Guns started the Weather Page. Kogasa (I believe it was him) made the nation page for Japan and Godfrey Raphael made a nation page for the Philippines. Enclavehunter (talk) 23:35, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
The North of the Nation is going to be quite lucky, considering the two biggest army bases in India remain unstratched (Patankot and Amritsar). So does Shimla, Amritsar, Jalandar, Chandigardh (future capital). The country will have a large population base.
Cause of the Apocalypse
What exacly causes the 'doomsday' style event? In Doomsday: 1983 there is a clear cause- a human error leads to the launch. In my own timeline- Korean Invasion: 2012 it will be caused by a terror cell. This is very vauge.Daeseunglim (talk) 00:30, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
I would like to get involved. Could I take the North East part of the US (PA, MD, NJ, NY, VT, MA, CN, etc.)? It is very interesting, but I am still confused. I missed the cause, but I don't think Russia would strike NATO unless it thought we were a threat. Maybe someone could elaborate on a cause later on. You have a lot of promise though!Daeseunglim (talk) 00:34, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
Actual Doomsday Prediction
Could we move it up to July 22 2013? (I can give you a Boy Scout Run Nation (lead by the King of Sweden) and I think possible a Muslim American Nation, A United Ukraine, and maybe some others...)