Love it. It is good so far. I especially love the symbolism of the Date it was declared independant. But why would a nation with a university as important as it is in Cape Girardeau not have a heading for Education? --Yankovic270 20:25, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Excellent sir, I just added the education section in. If you have any ideas you'd like to add in put em in the talk section and I will try work em in some how --GOPZACK 20:55, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


I hate to cause drama but this article was graduated without any concern to my objection. Concerning Rush Limbaugh being the leader of this country, my research puts him in Kansas City on Doomsday. He would more likely then not be killed by the blast that destroyed the city. Unless someone has a source to prove me wrong or changes the leader I can't support graduation of this article. Mitro 14:14, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Who is Hudson Limbaugh? I can't find info on him. Why not just have the current mayor of the town, Jay Knudtson, be the leader? Mitro 17:40, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've decided to make Jay Knudtson the leader does that work for you? --GOPZACK 17:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Yes that works for me, I remove my objection to this article being graduated. Mitro 17:45, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
As for a Limbaugh to be governor, why not David Limbaugh? I think he was still a resident in the city in 1983. If the Limbaugh family was "in charge," then they may have been able to keep control of the city-state in the ensuing 27 years. What do we know about the history of the mayors of Cape Girardeau since 1983? How can we establish that the present mayor would be in place in a devastated city held together by a powerful political family anyway? Not much has been done with this city-state since it has begun to be incorporated with other survivor city-states in the area.SouthWriter 18:33, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
I agree, there's no reason to put the current mayor *here* in charge without knowing the facts. For all we know he immigrated from St. Louis, or was travelling in Texas in 1983, or he was exiled from town in 1985, or was eaten by a cannibalistic motorcycle gang, or... so on. David Limbaugh does seem like a good choice, since the family has been locally prominent for a long time ([1]). Benkarnell 18:38, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
For now I have decided to change it to David Limbaugh but I still maintain theres a chance Rush was in the Cape Girardeau area this article says he was fired from a radio gig in 1983 in the Kanas City area. I don't think it's too big of a stretch to argue that he may have returned home to "find himself" as they say and decide where his life should go in the future. Then Doomsday happens and the rest is history...--GOPZACK 18:47, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

If they made Rush governor then they're clearly incaplable of governing themselves and desperately need someone else (Kentucky, for example) to invade and govern for them. It's the non-dumbass's burden. Mean Mr Mustard 01:21, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Mustard, I don't think you even read the article. Rush is not the governor, his brother David is. And if you were the least bit up on the politcs of the last twenty years, you'd know that David Limbaugh is a very respected voice in conservative politics. Rush, though influencial in OTL, ,was probably stuck as a broadcaster of a low-powered local radio station that barely reached the other side of the state in TTL. SouthWriter 12:43, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
Actually Rush was in Kansas City on DD. He is more than likely dead in this ATL. Mitro 22:11, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
Though Zack got it wrong -- Rush got the job at KMBZ in November of 1983, a month after DD -- he may be right about being out of KC on the date in question. This article -- -- says that he was both married and left his job with the KC Royals "in 1983" before taking the job at the radio station in November. Given the least bit of time, he may have taken a month or so off. I searched and could not find the exact date of leaving the Royals. He and his new bride (second wife) could have been on vacation for all I know. However, if I had to bet on it, I'd say he stayed with the Royals until the end of baseball season in October. Too late to escape DD destruction if he lived down town. SouthWriter 03:44, May 3, 2010 (UTC)


The present population of just 4000 inhabitants for Cape Girardeau is far too small. Such a small population is around two percent of the population of the metropolitan area of a city that was NOT hit by a nuke. Even a city hit by a nuke might have that many crawling out of the debris in the surrounding area!

Projecting back from the figures for Populations of Missouri, I get a population of about 31,000 in the city and abolut 110,000 in the metro area in 1983. The "bloody conflict" that would reduce this to 3500 or so (same projections back from ATL present 4000, for simplification) would hardly be able to rebuild a society based on the books and supplies pulled from an abandoned university.

Unless we want a fortress stationed on campus, with razor-wire keeping folks out for over ten years while small bands of survivors found food, etc, I suggest revising the population upward. Perhaps the 110,000 was reduced by half in the first few years, and then built up by perhaps 2 percent a year after that. Let's say from 55,000 to 68,200 today. That size population would be about twice the city's population and about half the county's population today.

Overall, I think we've come to a better understanding of the survivability of the communities in North America in this excercise over the past few months. I am not sure if the lag for a surviving southern hemisphere would take as long as this time line assumes it did to "find" these populations, but that is canonized now. In the meantime, isolated populations have the opportunity to snap back a lot faster than we might imagine.SouthWriter 18:55, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'm with you on that now that it has been widely accepted that more people survived then first estimated I will change the population. If you have any other suggestions that would be greatly appreciated. --GOPZACK 19:22, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Glad to be of assistance. SouthWriter 19:35, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

If they made Rush governor then they clearly can't govern for themselves and desperately need someone else (Kentucky, for example) to invade and govern for them. Mean Mr Mustard 01:21, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, no-one can accuse you of "false advertising". I bet you could teach mean to a snapping turtle.

Yankovic270 01:33, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted remark due to the political nature (about real life people) - NCNC principle. SouthWriter 03:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yankovic270 23:19, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

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