What I want to know is, what the heck happened to China *there*? Particularly the events of 1869. --Sikulu 13:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm trying to figure it out, myself. But by the way, 1869 is pretty much a year picked at random, and I don't have much idea yet of what happened, or if I'll even change the year. However, I don't think that whatever happened was a conflict. It's probably gonna be more like a "Statute of Westminster 1931" thing, where there is some law that makes the smaller countries recognized as equal to Jonggwo (which probably at that time still has a monarchy). Jonggwo would later (tentatively 1947) be remade into a republic and finally (so far) into a Socialist country, though not nearly as rough as the one in OTL turned out to be, especially in the 1960s and 1970s. The Republic of China, meanwhile (now called Wu), would, like in OTL, have been the republican successor to monarchist Jonggwo until being defeated by Socialist forces and retreating to Nanjing, which it managed to hold until a ceasefire was declared. Now, unlike OTL Taiwan and China, Wu and Jonggwo are quite friendly with each other. Basically, in Jonggwo, someone more like Zhou Enlai than Mao Zedong came to have the most power. As for Tibet (and Xinjiang Uyghur and some other parts), India was and is much stronger in my timeline, and any threat from a Chinese nation trying to press against its borders or even sphere of influence would spell disaster for any takers. So, to get back to your original question, I don't really know what happened in 1869. --Riction 13:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'd think that it would be some kind of civil war myself, given all of the resulting nations, with warlord-controlled states to the south and the remnant empire to the north, which suffered a later socialist revolution. --Sikulu 16:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Most likely that multiple rebellions at the end of the Qing Dynasty occurred in these microstates and consolidated their power over the years. The Statute of Westminister would effectively cement the borders of these microstates. This would be the n-th time in history that China has divided into many states, but as a popular Chinese saying goes, "what is united will move towards division, what is divided will move towards unification."
Why is a chunk of Manchuria taken out of Northeast China?
I'd like to suggest some changes to the Union:
- Szechwan should get its own state, because they are pretty geographically isolated
- North Vietnam (Annam) might be interested in joining the Chinese Union for economic reasons, as they are also a very sinicized population. Southern Vietnam is more culturally related to the Khmer (Cambodians)
- Korea (Choseon) might be interested as well for the same reasons, but Japan might not be too happy with losing Korea to another sphere of influence
I wish I could further comment on Annam and Choseon, but there is no other information for these two areas. Vietnamese and Korean both use Chinese characters so they can communicate with others in the Union (apparently written communication has much more importance than speaking, a precedent set by the Hokkien state) --Sunwukong 17:27, November 5, 2009 (UTC)