Talk: Colombia (Wasteland Europe)

Latest revision as of 16:15, 19 July 2010

Shouldn't the English "translation" of federal be simply "federal"? The other adjective for being federated is "federate."

Sorry, I'm not an English teacher but I play one online. :-)

Besides, the Wikipedia article does not have the "federal" as part of the official name: Republica de Columbia SouthWriter 05:05, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I don't have either a good grammar or spelling, as you can see, mostly because my English is not that good, because I was born on Colombia (lol, if you asked why did I did the article here it is in a nutshell) but I think you can say "federative". And I know it's a Republic, I don't know why did I include "federative". Fedelede 14:14, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I might be of help. My stepmother is Colombian, my father works for the US government there (full position is classified) and I have dual citizenship in the US and Costa Rica, and I have been a fluent Spanish speaker for most of my life. La Republica de Colombia is the official name, but since the US has a reputation of naming its puppet states "federal" republics, (Federal Germany) then I guess it would be La Republica Federal de Colombia. Arstarpool 15:04, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

"Puppet States"???? Being an ally to the most powerful country on earth is not the same as being a "puppet." An occupied nation, such as Japan in TTL or Iraq in OTL, might be referred to in that manner, but no allies. As you say, in OTL your father works "for the US government" in Colombia, an ally to the US. A weaker ally does not imply a subservient ally. Of course, the weaker nation might feel compelled to act against its own interests in favor of the stronger one, but that does not make it a puppet. SouthWriter 15:39, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting me, South. Arstarpool 15:54, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. I hope you weren't offended in my quick defense of "my" ALT America. It could become a "bully" if it weren't careful, given its alliance with China as its muscleman. I hope I can keep it strong but noble. SouthWriter 16:29, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Post War Colombia

These articles really don't need lengthy histories before 1950. The point of divergence is the decision of the US to pull out of Europe (at least economically) in the early years after the war. We have assumed from the failure of the Marshall plan, that the US troops were also withdrawn, leaving Europe "easy pickings" for the USSR.

The history of Colombia would be much like it is in OTL, with the exception of Communist-inspired uprisings within the borders of POTO protected nations. Stable governments would survive in Central and South America due to the power of POTO. Work on those assumptions and I am sure the "proposal" status can be lifted soon. SouthWriter 16:15, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

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 I might be of help. My stepmother is Colombian, my father works for the US government there (full position is classified) and I have dual citizenship in the US and Costa Rica, and I have been a fluent Spanish speaker for most of my life. La Republica de Colombia is the official name, but since the US has a reputation of naming its puppet states "federal" republics, (Federal Germany) then I guess it would be La Republica Federal de Colombia. [[User:Arstarpool|Arstarpool]] 15:04, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
+: "Puppet States"???? Being an ally to the most powerful country on earth is not the same as being a "puppet." An occupied nation, such as Japan in TTL or Iraq in OTL, might be referred to in that manner, but no allies. As you say, in OTL your father works "for the US government" in Colombia, an ally to the US. A weaker ally does not imply a subservient ally. Of course, the weaker nation might feel compelled to act against its own interests in favor of the stronger one, but that does not make it a puppet. [[User:SouthWriter|SouthWriter]] 15:39, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
+: Thank you for correcting me, South. [[User:Arstarpool|Arstarpool]] 15:54, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
+: You're welcome.  I hope you weren't offended in my quick defense of "my" ALT America.  It could become a "bully" if it weren't careful, given its alliance with China as its muscleman.  I hope I can keep it strong but noble. [[User:SouthWriter|SouthWriter]] 16:29, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
+== Post War Colombia ==
+These articles really don't need lengthy histories before 1950.  The point of divergence is the decision of the US to pull out of Europe (at least economically) in the early years after the war.  We have assumed from the failure of the Marshall plan, that the US troops were also withdrawn, leaving Europe "easy pickings" for the USSR.
+The history of Colombia would be much like it is in OTL, with the exception of Communist-inspired uprisings within the borders of POTO protected nations.  Stable governments would survive in Central and South America due to the power of POTO.  Work on those assumptions and I am sure the "proposal" status can be lifted soon. [[User:SouthWriter|SouthWriter]] 16:15, July 19, 2010 (UTC)