Was there much to found with? Most of the major cities on the front range would've been nuked because of their size and/or strategic importance. What wasn't hit by nukes was awash in fallout. I don't know that there was much of Colorado to found anything. Louisiannan 20:46, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
- It's also canon that western Colorado was more than somewhat cut-off from the East because of the nukes, and the Utah government saw to the rest, closing down the Eisenhower tunnel and other passes leading westward, to prevent the perceived lawlessness of the plains from spreading. Louisiannan 05:23, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
PUSA map[]
After reading the article, it appears that the map was drawn before the article. As is clear, the survivor community is in the west, not the east. Any survivors in the east will be aligned with the states of Nebraska and Kansas. The logistics of redrawing lines might be problematic in real life, but since no "East Colorado" was mentioned, Kansas would be not be touching the rest. How much of western Colorado should be in the founding state -- just t he two counties, the northwest counties, or the whole western part of the state (claimed at least)? SouthWriter 22:01, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Cheyenne Mountain[]
There must be further discussion regarding the facility.
Here's some info,
"The operations center lies inside a tunnel bored a mile into the mountain — a tunnel that's designed to route a blast’s shock wave out the other end past its 25-ton blast doors. Inside the mountain you’ll find several intersecting chambers and 15 freestanding buildings — 12 of which are three stories tall. Like all good apocalyptic hideouts, Cheyenne Mountain is designed to be self-sufficient. It can protect its inhabitants from nuclear fallout and biological and chemical warfare through its elaborate air-purifying system that filters out harmful pathogens, chemical particles and radioactive material. It even has powerful springs that can absorb energy from earthquakes and bombs. Electricity comes from Colorado Springs, but there are six 1,750-kilowatt diesel generators for backup. There’s also a massive underground water supply — four excavated reservoirs hold 1.5 million gallons of water. In fact, they’re so large that workers sometimes cross them in rowboats."
Anyway South I'd like to hear from you on this. --GOPZACK 00:40, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Good observation, Zack. I assumed that Cheyenne Mountain would indeed survive, and it is from there that I assumed authorities communicated with Reagan in the early months. The developments that became the APA were a stop gap measure never actually in the long range plans of the constitutional government of the United States of America. That is why the CRUSA and former president Bush are now in the process of lobbying the LoN to have the government in Torrington, DA, recognized internationally. This process had begun at Cheyenne Mountain without the knowledge of Wyoming's government and consequently only came to light after the provisional government had proved itself stable.
- It is not clear exactly when the "shadow government" surfaced, but I think that it had a lot to do with the revision of the constitution in 1991. The military command at Cheyenne had stayed out of the war with the Dakota and the neo-nazi groups from the Northwest, leaving the new governments to establish themselves. When the APA was dissolved, the standing USA government became the successor by default. It is probably better not to try to write this all back into the narrative. If we have to, we can put the truth about Cheyenne into a report to the LoN authored by a Congressional commission. SouthWriter 01:30, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
We really need to make a page some time in the near future about the rise of the shadow government and its influence on the new USA. Then we'll get to the fate of the Reagan Administration officials seeing as that is a less pressing matter then this. --GOPZACK 01:41, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. There is a possibility that the integrity of the agreement was compromised in the formation of the APA. However, with the CRUSA involved in its disclosure, Bush and his cabinet will be "kept honest" in the whole thing. The shadow government is not meant to replace the official government, but rather to protect the constitution. The Congress will undoubtedly meet the scrutiny from League of Nations investigators, but I'm not sure how the other states will fare that have unilaterally seceded. I suspect that no one will seriously claim sovereignty over any self-proclaimed nations. And I'm sure no war will be fought to reclaim any lands that have so seceded. It is hoped, for sure, though that many of the survivor states will opt to rejoin the USA voluntarily when all the facts are out. If you set up the page, including a rough outline if you could, I feel it in with some ideas I have as to the particulars. SouthWriter 01:54, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- One final question for you South before I start the page, what should it be called? ;) --GOPZACK 01:57, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. We can't make it sound conspiratorial, that will lead to an international scandal. How about "Congressional Report on the Continuing United States of America," or perhaps, for short "Report on the Continuing USA"?
Thank you Mitro! --GOPZACK 02:08, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
GBlack would not approve :-) ... but I suspect we really don't know much about how the government would preserve continuity and where from it would do so in the event of a nuclear war. BrianD 02:16, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
We'll continue this discussion on the brand new 2010 WCRB Report on the American Shadow Government talk page! --GOPZACK 02:23, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Sking[]
Does any body think that sking would be making a comeback in Colorado ATL.Does anybody like the idea of Steamboat springs as the new Vail.Goldwind1 (talk) 23:51, March 20, 2016 (UTC)
- I see no reason why skiing would ever fall out of favor. As soon as transportation at any level returned, slopes would be available for recreation. Local folk near a mountain would certainly use it for recreation when such pastimes became practical.
- As to whether Steamboat Springs would replace Vail is anybody's guess. If you have researched it, post it as a proposal and get to work. SouthWriter (talk) 00:41, March 23, 2016 (UTC)
Wanted to add info[]
Hi, Sorry I am bad with technology, my last edit was reverted. I am the original editor which added info on the western slope, as well as the population of Fort Collins. I was hoping to edit the political and economic sections of the page. Can I add info on the national guard as well?
Please let me know how to go about editing this page.