Talk:From Sea to Shining Sea

To make this more understandble, keep this section shorter and emphasize on the differences in the United States.

Stepintime (talk) 00:11, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

As the original creator has stated that he is abondoning the timeline I am assuming role as a caretaker. However this primairly to clean up the project and add relevant visual aids/media to enhance the experience. I may add content where there are gaps.

Other users are welcome to particpate and contribute as always.

Stepintime (talk) 19:06, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Panama Canal and the Philippines

To add thrill. Panama Canal Zone a) annexed by Colombia, b) occupied by UK or a c) sort of international mandate of the League of Nations. Or all three options!!!
I see the Philippines more in the hands of a local nationalist government more in line of Manuel L. Quezon than communists or similar parties. Philippines would also fell within the economical and political sphere of influence of Imperial Japan. --JorgeGG (talk) 17:56, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

I am starting to wonder why the Philippines would not be taken by Japan outright as this seems to be the pefect moment, (perhaps Japanese Politian's choose not to).

And Hawaii Hawaii needs more insight While I imagine the Hawains take advantage of the revolution i don't know if it would have leftist outcomes. There is however the historical experience of the Haawainn Communist Party in the 50s which enjoyed victories due to support from native people

But at the time Japanese made over 43% of the territory's population, though certainly not all supportive of their homeland entirely why wouldn't the Japanese Empire also come to the area?

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My Take
Hawaii: Independent from US in order to safeguard plantation interests and commerce. Fall within the commercial and political sphere UK and/or Japan. Annexed by the later by means of an incidente like in China in order to safeguard the Hawaiian people from communist agitation.? I certainly see the local Communist Party involved with forming labor unions and organizing labour strikes and the general strikes that could lead to a revolution.
Alaska: A long war with Canada for its control. Not a state but a territory under direct rule (too few people and infighting to have a local revolutionary government) Perhaps with a little help from Russia but with some compensation. Nothing comes free.
Panama Canal a) annexed by Colombia, b) occupied by UK or a c) sort of international mandate of the League of Nations or some combination of the three.
Philippines. Becomes independent with the generous help of Imperial Japan under the slogan of Asian for Asians. Not annexed but under some form of indirect rule. Or just annexed.
Mexico. Establishes working relations with the revolutionary America and help with weapons and military skirmishes north of Rio Grande or a major ofensive in Texas and help to California. Later when things are settled it would establish some sort of Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation between both states. Perhaps more open migration to border states and a more bilingual revolutionary America.
Canada. Becomes a refuge for fleeing Americans and as a long Red Scare period (like in the USA in the 1950s) that disestablishes Canadian labor movement and left parties. There is a long and protracted war over Alaska as Canada seeks to secure lands north of British Columbia with UK help.
Cuba. Starts an earlier coup or rebelion against Machado establishing a more reformist and left winging movement. Although the american revolution could give air for Machado to maneuver into a more authoritarian regime.
US states I don't see the 48 states surviving in their present shape. For instance I vision independant the communes of Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and others. Also some states are divided or merged according to the revolutionary fighting or other causes (economic, cultural, social, etc). For example the Appalachian united in single unit or Texas split to deter reactionaries from having a common front, etc, Or for example Indian territories with degrees of self rule and ownership of their natural resources or due to Black liberation and civil right movements autonomous republics or regions established in the deep south. --JorgeGG (talk) 13:30, April 10, 2018 (UTC)