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Do we really need to know what happened to Genoa during Roman times? I think not! All we need for pre-Doomsday history is a couple of decades before Doomsday. All this backstory isn't necessary for a timeline with such a modern PoD. The need to develop the post-Doomsday history, as well as the other parts of the article (government, economy, military, international relations, etc) is greater than writing the pre-Doomsday history.

Yankovic270 16:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, the present cannot exist without the past, so it is necessary. Even in this ATL world.

Lordganon 16:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh I'm not opposed to having pre-Doomsday history, but come on! Documenting Genoa's history from roman times is kind of overkill. I still think that history past the 19th century (at most) is frivolous history and a waste of space on the article.


Yankovic270 16:53, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

If I need pre-doomsday history I tend to just go to Wikipedia.Oerwinde 20:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

To me, it is not overkill. And on that I will not quiver.

With Genoa, not having anything before 1800 is a travesty, because the most important events in its history occurred prior to this.

Lordganon 10:13, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to have to agree with Yank on this one. At most, pre-Doomsday history should be one or two paragraphs, just to give the reader a brief mention on what was happening pre-Doomsday. IMO, most of that history should be 20th century, especially the cold war. Mitro 22:48, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
The Republic of Genoa exist since the medio eve and it fall in 1815, when the Liguria was annex at the Kingdom of Sardinia Col. James Hsu (talk) 14:41, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Salmon vs "Safety orange"[]

I'd say that genoa(on the map) looks more like a safety orange than salmon. Check these pages out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_(color)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_orange

Another guess would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_orange#Princeton_orange , but for salmon it looks too dark. Doctor261 (Talk to me!) 17:17, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Expansion in Piedmont []

I think the Duke Amedeo can be expansion Genoa and annex the Piedmont, why with the Piedmont (Maybe all with a agreement with the Alpine Confederation) he can reclaim the title of Duke and the Duchy of Savoy and transform the Republic of Genoa info a Monarchy. Col. James Hsu (talk) 17:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC) 

Adopting the Republic of Genoa[]

Hi, i would ask if i may adopt this page and transfer it under my authority ? Col. James Hsu, 28th September 2020 

What do you intend to do with it? SigmaHero045 (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Adjust it to rapresent Genoa and Liguria in a realistic way Mal3ssio97 20/10/20 15:13

Such as? SigmaHero045 (talk) 17:08, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Like how the parliament works or the doge system, and also the military other then their dispute with Monaco over the province of Imperia. Mal3ssio97 21/10/20 02:05

And are these disputes established canon? What's the problem with the parliament? Why is there a doge system outside Venetia? Wouldn't a simple republic make more sense? SigmaHero045 (talk) 01:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

...You need to have asked the creator/author. You did not. As such.... Lordganon (talk) 18:45, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Ehm, sorry as such what? From 2016 to just some months ago you were absent on this project and this page itself wasn't touched by anyone since 2016 up until i adopt it in 2020. I asked the formal adoption in the talk page and i discuss this on the discord and they said it was fine, so i pick it and adjust the article. I coudn't talked to you since i tought you were gone and that you didn't work anymore on this project. Mal3ssio97 22:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

To adopt a page it is clearly stated what you must do. You did not follow this. Whether you perceive someone "inactive" or not, you must follow it. It's even been noted to you before about that. Had you followed procedure and left me a note, you'd have gotten a very rapid response. Lordganon (talk) 23:28, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I hope that we can get this adopted and changed eventually. Suddenly pretending that it's the 13th century again, with merchant companies and all that... it's an odd choice. An illiberal republic makes a lot of sense; so does looking back to medieval times for some symbolic inspiration... but wholesale adopting the antique system of government does not. The republic should be a natural development from the society that existed in 1983, adapting in response to the collapse that they went through. False Dmitri (talk) 19:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Not how I view it - the reversion to the previous method is a combination of acknowledging reality of the influence companies have, plus them being more stable after DD inside of the Genoa area. Only way for the government to keep power/control is to work with them, and they demand a formal spot at the table as a result. Thus, we have this government. Lordganon (talk) 15:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Doing it here is a bit... on the nose. And anyway it's not clear to me whence the companies. We don't have anything like that in other places because global trade collapsed and the economy plunged into subsistence levels, from which point it had to rebuild itself in a way that's neither modern nor medieval, but unique to this setting. For an economy like this to re-emerge just in the right place to pretend it's the Middle Ages is quite far-fetched. False Dmitri (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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