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Jesus of Nazareth (No Christianity world)

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IIRC, some of the stories about Jesus were fasten after his death OTL, like the virginity of Mary. Also, according to the scripts, he never proclaimed himself as the Messiah: his apostoles did.

So, have he lived longer, historians won't remember the virgen mother myth nor a Messiah proclamation.

He might be recorded, if at all, as a successful or unsuccessful reformer (his teaching were focused in given priority to the human being rather than the strict fullfillment of the law).

--Carlos Th 14:46, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Worst yet, he could be only known through his detractors as was Simon Magus *here*. For all we know *there* he could be an obscure figure in roman Mithraic text who once challenged the faithfuls.--Marcpasquin 23:33, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jesus wasn't the only person to claim messiah-hood in that era. Most likely, he'd just be remembered as yet another self-proclaimed messiah

Possible alternative - Jesus links up with the Magi (they did come to see him when he was an infant after all): and Simon Magus as the link. (I don't know enough about the period to develop further) Jackiespeel 23:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


Given the possibilities there should be a Jesus of Nazareth variants page. Jackiespeel 00:12, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

The religion of Rabbi Yeshua would not have been distinguishable from that of many other rabbis of the first century, and would most likely just have become a sect within Judaism that would have lived on in his few disciples who wrote his sayings down. If he had not claimed to be the Messiah, there would have been no reason to kill him, and any Roman leader that went along with the lynching of a religious teacher by his competitors would not last as a prelate for long.
If the Savior had not come within the period of the Pax Romana, it is hard to imagine when He would have come. The conditions were just right - Safe Roman Roads, Universal Greek language, etc. It would be almost three centuries before this religion would be prominent (and that is WITH God's blessing), the years following the wide acceptance of the religion actually saw the fall of the Empire in the west. I have actually tried this thought experiment myself, and it is distressing. To try to imagine a world where Jesus actually did come, but was not who the record records he was, is even more distressing than imagining that he did not come at all.
Perhaps it would be better if inquisitive minds would instead look at the record and postulate what would happen if Christianity had not only started, but triumphed in the first century! What if mankind had accepted the Messiah on a grand scale? Now THAT would be a "Jesus of Nazareth variant" worth thinking about. SouthWriter 05:52, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

As I have created the 'unassociated' page above anyone wishing to transfer possibilities is welcome to do so. Jackiespeel 15:30, February 2, 2010 (UTC)