Discovery of the formula

I got to thinking -- dangerous as that may be -- would the origin of the "formula" be known to a reporter in TTL. I don't think the Cubans would admit crossing deep into former America on expeditions of discovery ("plunder"). I suppose we can write these nation profiles as omniscient outsiders but the convention established so far has been to go with what can be found out by interview by the WCRB. If this is the case, I think, Mitro varied from that convention when he introduced this little fact.

I'm thinking maybe we can work with the article based on the assumption that communist Cuba would suppress information damaging to their image. If the WCRB were writing these articles, the information might be a little different. I think it would add to the realism if we insert "suspected" and such in places like this. Just a thought, since I respect QSS and QAA. [QAA - I assume Cuba would not divulge this information :-) ] SouthWriter 17:59, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well sure, I don't see why not. I usually write in "suspected" or "allegedly" when I do articles regarding Siberia and the land grabs they make. I already assumed that someone would suspect the Cubans somehow acquired the formula.

But this however raises the question of how the WCRB gets its information. I always assumed that they received the information mostly from the government it was reporting on. I know they have a lot of offices around the world, but I always assumed that they were somewhat limited to second hand information.--Vladivostok 19:20, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Prototype Can

Cola Grane.jpg

I have better software but I have never learned to use it. Here is a "rough draft" of the logo based on the tuKola label. SouthWriter 03:29, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I like it, looks like a good start and what I basically envisioned it would look like. Would you mind if I put this "rough draft", as you put it, in the article?--Vladivostok 08:22, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead, use the picture. I might try cleaning it up later. I figured they would replace their tuKola with the Coca Cola formula and market it as something new. I also figured they would stay away from producing a graphic that resembled Coca Cola. SouthWriter 18:49, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Cola Grande.png

Here is the improved version. I will go ahead and put it up since you haven't got to it yet. SouthWriter 21:04, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for putting it on the page, but it appears there is a slight name problem which would probably need addressing. I am of course referring to the discussion below.--Vladivostok 08:49, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okie Doke. Here's the "Coke." :-)

Sorry, it just came out. I have finished the name change on the can, and

Kola Grande.png

now I'll get to the articles. Easily fixed, and brought a chuckle in the meantime. SouthWriter 16:38, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

The product's name

Why would Cubans make a product that in Spanish literally means Big tail? I chuckled a bit. ~anon

Because the author of this article doesn't speak Spanish all that great? :) I could argue now that they are using cola for the international market, but seeing as the "first world" is in South America, maybe it would be better if it was Kola Grande, to avoid confusions with tails and inducing laughter.--Vladivostok 08:47, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Considering that even on the Spanish wiki, Coke still has the word "cola" in it, and the Spanish version of the "Cola" article still contains the word, It makes perfect sense for them to have the word in the name. Lordganon 09:48, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

So that's the reason the reason the Cuban cola in OTL is "tuKola" with a "K"! :-)
Well, I used the K to produce the C and the G, so it won't take to much to change the label. I am responsible for naming the drink in the first place, and I should have known better, for as far as I know, only Kenny and I are familiar with "Inca Kola." As anon points out "cola" is another word in Spanish. The spelling with a "C" was for aliteration by Coca Cola back in 1886. In this case, it could be argued that the "C" is for asthetic purposes since it looks like the G. : If the Cubans had wanted to hide the fact that the new formula was from Coca Cola, they would not have used the word "Cola" in naming the product anyway. The flavoring is from the kola nut, and that's with a "k." It is a case of my not thinking it through. I will make the changes as soon as I post this! Glad I brought a chuckle from anon, though. SouthWriter 15:48, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with South on this, in such a Spanish-oriented world, and especially because they'd want to be as different from others who were making similar drinks, it would make sense to give it a K.--Vladivostok 17:17, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Other Soft Drinks

Didn't Pepsi and RC Cola get back into production by 2010? If so, could articals be made about them aswell? Also, what logos would they have? 22:29, September 20, 2013 (UTC)Jacob Chesley24.147.1.197 22:29, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Jacob.  I created the pages.  Please feel free to expand them. SouthWriter (talk) 04:17, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Coca Cola's International Bottlers

Wouldn't have Coca Cola's international bottlers help the brand survive (much like its rival Pepsi) instead of dying out and the formula being found by Cuban explorers in 2007 in the ruins of Atlanta and having the soda renamed Kola Grande the following year? I am pritty sure that Coke's Mexican factory would still be around. 21:59, October 16, 2013 (UTC)Jacob Chesley

Research showed that the formula was tightly held and the syrup was shipped to bottlers around the world to be added to soda water for bottling (or canning).  Once the American processors were destroyed, the product soon ran out.  After 24 years all bottlers in the unaffected world would have shut down.  At least that is what has been assumed and written for this time line (QAA and QSS, see the guidelines).  Pepsi survived because its formula was more widely known.

Two things, Jacob.  Register so your signature can be automatically entered when you hit the "signature" button (or type four tildes).  Also, if you are going to make a link, you have to follow the naming conventions for the wiki.  "Kola Grande" is incomplete.  You need to include the time line in parentheses.  SouthWriter (talk) 01:50, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what everything I've found on the subject says. Coke is odd, that way.

The plants would have long ago converted to making something other than Coke.

Lordganon (talk) 08:44, October 17, 2013 (UTC)


I have nominated Kola Grande for Wikia's Battle of the Fantasy Foods tournament. It's a long shot maybe, since Wikia relies on published fiction, but we know that DD has a following outside this wiki. So head on over and second my nomination! Let's get DD some more well-deserved attention. Benkarnell (talk) 23:58, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

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