Alternative History
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Colors in the list[]

I see you took this list from List of Presidents of the United States (Greater Colombia) (which I took it from wikipedia).

Note that my colors have a meaning, with:

full color             pre POD presidents (color means party)
light gray   very probable president
darker gray   probable president, might be affected by POD, though.
darkest gray   From OTL but unlikely in ATL.

As all your presidents seems to be confirmed, you should probably use full color rows in the table.

--Carlos Th 20:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


  • I just changed the colours just now. I wasn't completeley sure of post-POD ones, as I'm not too familiar with the details surrounding OTL elections, but I made my guess. If you don't like it, change it back.

New President[]

Is there a current president? Johnson again, Howard Dean, Kerry? George or Jeb Bush, pushed as the real conservative candidate after Johnson's pussyfooting around? Will there be a page on Johnson, so a probable succeeding president can be determined?


I wouldn't try to base the incumbent POTUS on OTL events happened after POD. There are some major points that make the list of presidents inacceptable to me.

Firstly, the list of presidents first diverges from OTL with the election of 2000, not earlier. That a G. W. Bush would never have become president is clear, but why is a Ronald Reagan still on this list if the US didn't nead anybody to heal wounds of failure that didn't exist because the ATL is Vietnam Victory?

Secondly, the name of the incumbent president in this ATL sounds a bit homorous. Did Lyndon B. Johnson I. really have a son christened Lyndon B. as well? OTL George W. Bush isn't called George Bush II. as well. And numbering non-monarch heads of states like monarchs and popes seems somehow inadequate to me.

It wasn't me who called incumbent POTUS as "Lyndon B. Johnson II." On the other hand, Johnson is the most common surname in the US, but most probably a new President Johnson would have had another given name. The current name used for ATL president seems to me like a placeholder. Dr. Nodelescu 01:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm just trying to make it clear that the president in the Vietnam Victory timeline is Lyndon Johnson's son. I can imagine people thinking "Hey, Lyndon Johnson was the president when we were clear winners in South Vietnam; why not vote for his son?" If I put something like David Johnson, people might not know. Just clearing this up for you. --WhatIfß 15:22, 15 May 2005 (CDT)

2009 President?[]

Er...can you say what happens in 2008? Isn't the point that it's alternative history, not alternative futures? Cprhodesact 05:32, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

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