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Given that people are very likely concerned with subsistence and simple survival, I don't know how much money they have to be spending on books, period. I see life as much more making sure you have food to eat, and entertainment of any flavor for most of North America is rare and home-made (singing, playing instruments, etc.) Louisiannan 18:57, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe in North America they won't be that important, but in the First World of Oceania and South America that is a different story. Mitro 20:33, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
I'll agree to that for ANZC and the SAU, but Hawaii? Alaska? MSP? Probably, and most likely not. But I think we're agreed on that. Louisiannan 20:48, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't rule out Hawaii and Alaska. Both are associate states of ANZC and thus are priveleged to whatever benefits that state happens to bestow on their satelites, including ANZC culture. I wouldn't be surprised if ANZC corps have just as much free reign their as they do down under, including publishing companies. The MSP, is a "probably", but they have the benefit of being on the Pacific Ocean, which is the major economic zone of this world, and they have become more civilzed recently. If they do receive literature from other parts of the world its likely in small amounts and usually several years after it was published. They might even have their own self-published books, there does come a point in time when survival becomes easy enough that you can waste time and money on other pursuits. Mitro 20:52, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
Then I misjudged Hawaii and Alaska -- but it had seemed to me that they were still pulling themselves together somewhat. As for the MSP, if they're still living in city-states, I don't know how much market there would be for books. Utah, I feel would have money and trade for books to some extent, but mostly because they've been stable for most of the last 30 years, aside the brief "war" with the Spokane Junta. Just my two cents. Maybe I'm too cynical-viewed about the state of affairs in this timeline...then again, I have been spending a fair piece of time in France and Spain *there* which are a lot worse off than Utah, Hawaii or Alaska.... Louisiannan 21:01, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the Shadow of Tommorow re-edit

With respect to Lordganon, I am admittedly curious as to why the edits for that section were undone. Given the typos and lack of updates regarding that bit, is it possible to at least restore some of them? Mdc 1957 (talk) 10:49, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

...Because it is far, far easier to just revert the whole thing than it is to remove the parts you weren't allowed to add by hand? Lordganon (talk) 11:06, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

I understand, but please clarify what you mean regarding what isn't allowed to be added. Mdc 1957 (talk) 11:58, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

You added content about one of the book series' that someone else added.

While you can add new sections to the page, don't mess with what's here.

Lordganon (talk) 01:18, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'll be honest: the whole Shadow of Tomorrow thing was actually started by me a long time ago before I officially registered in Wikia. I thought of somehow updating it after such a long time. Mdc 1957 (talk) 10:44, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

...You how there are sometimes things that should have been said first? That's one of them. Looking at IPs, and their locations, I can see you're probably telling me the truth.

Power to you, then.

Lordganon (talk) 12:08, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for not informing you sooner regarding that. Mdc 1957 (talk) 12:11, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Blue Dawn

Similar to Red Dawn OTL. The plot involves the South American Confederation launching a systematic invasion of survivor communities along the Gulf and East Coast of the former United States. In Texas, a group of teenagers form a resistance group which they name the Wolverines after their high school sports collective. The plot would take place during a hypothetical Fourth World War fought between the Australia-New Zealand and South America blocs.

PS: How come there is no page for films? Experiment632 (talk) 04:21, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

That would really not make any sense. Remember, that area is a backwater atl. Far, far, beyond SAC abilities, too.

No page for films because no one has made one. If you want to make one, power to you.

Lordganon (talk) 08:09, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

I got an idea about how to salvage the Blue Dawn idea. We can have it set in 2083. I believe that by that year eastern America would  be a much more valuable prize. 69 years will also give engough of time for the South American Confederation's military capabilities to develop. I also have a great idea for the end of the movie. The heroes of the movie discover  that the incident that sparked  WW4 was ,secretly engineered by Socialist Siberia. This knowledge reaches the powers that be in both Australia and South America. This results in Australia and  South America calling a cease fire.I feel that this ending open the door for a  squeal involving South America and Australia  united in a war against Socialist Siberia.Goldwind1 (talk) 20:24, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Will be more than a century before there is a point to such a move - and even then, it would mean global war.

The idea just doesn't make any sense.

Lordganon (talk) 07:31, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

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