You might want to talk to Oer about this article. He already had some ideas concerning it, I think. Mitro 01:10, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I would think that Doomsday would accelerate the transition into Democracy by a few years. Do you agree Oer?

Yankovic270 01:28, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think the economic effects of Doomsday might have slowed it actually. With the global economic collapse, the people would likely be looking for stability rather than change I would think.Oerwinde 16:13, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

ought it would accelerate the transition, because the people want stability, right? The Malian government at the time had trouble establishing it even without Doomsday's effects. Thus the worse economic conditions created by Doomsday would make the needed dissent form much quicker than in OTL.

Yankovic270 17:23, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Dissent leads to to distiillity, though! I would agreee with Oer that the lack of stabillity would result in a goverment crackdown agianst dissenters.HAD 17:42, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Democracy does not lead to stability during times of crisis. Democracies are designed to be inefficient and slow. Dictatorships, for all their flaws, work good during times like Doomsday. Mitro 01:40, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with that. Stalin's methods were dubious at best, but he single-handedly pulled the Russians into the 20th Century.

Yankovic270 03:10, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

But, as with dictatorships today (like Zimbabwe), there could be at least a semblance of democracy installed in the country.

Yankovic270 02:53, July 2, 2010 (UTC)


According to the 1983 doomsday Africa map, Mail had lost control of Azawad, which is the northern part of the country. Northern Mali was home to a failed Tuareg nationalist uprising in the 60’s. There was a second rebellion during the 90’s in the OTL. I feel that since doomsday made the Bamako goverment unstable, the second rebellion would happen earlier and would be more successful. So if no one has any objections I would like to make a republic of Azawad page.Goldwind1 00:08, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Rather doubtful, quite honestly.

For starters, that Africa map is not quite up to date. Some of the neighboring states have moved into the region in question to some degree.

One of these is actually a Tureg nation. Any rebellious Tureg would have gone in that direction, to fight the Algerian government.

Lordganon 00:49, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Present State of Mali

I believe that mali may be politically stable ALT then OTL. It would not  be facing the Tureg crisis in 1983 doomsday. I wonder  if  Mali economy has stabilized enough for it to consider joining the west African union. ~Gold

No on all counts. Lordganon (talk) 10:28, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

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