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Request to join?
Hello, I have read this timeline and I am happy to say I like it. I want to join this timeline and add a new nation: Philippines. Being a Filipino myself, I have some background with my country, especially in it's communist insurgency, politics, etc. What is the procedure for joining and adding a new nation? Gillan1220 (talk) 03:48, October 13, 2015 (UTC)
- I'm more than happy to hear you are interested in working on this timeline. Everybody is welcomed to participate here, though the only stipulation is that you follow the Editorial Guidelines as listed.
- You are more than welcome to begin an article for the Philippines (though please mark it as a proposal first before we canonize it). But before you get started, I must ask what you have in mind for the timeline? How do you envision the Philippines working with a continued Soviet Union? -- NuclearVacuum 02:47, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines%E2%80%93Soviet_Union_relations, I based mine of this. During the Cold War, it was alleged the Soviet Union and the PRC supported to the Maoist insurgency in the Philippines. Strong anti-communist sentiment was present in the Philippines. In OTL, relations with the Soviet Union thawed in 1989 when President Corazon C. Aquino spoke with Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan in regards with ending the Cold War. Like the west, the country supported the openness and democratization of the USSR during the late eighties. In this timeline, my idea is during the War on Terror, the U.S., Soviet Union, Vietnam, Malaysia, Norway, Brunei, and Japan would mediate the talks between the New People's Army and the Government of the Philippines in ending the communist insurgency in the country. Gillan1220 (talk) 05:44, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
I love the idea of the Soviets working to bring peace between the Philippines and the Communist Insurgency (fits completely well within the overall message of this timeline). I'm also very curious as to the fate of the Communist Party of the Philippines. I'd suspect that as part of the peace process, they'd be allowed to truly take part in Filipino politics (as opposed to remaining underground). I'd also be curious to see how the CPP would be altered as part of this change. Maybe they'd follow in the footsteps of the USSR and become more democratized. -- NuclearVacuum 16:44, October 15, 2015 (UTC)
I'm working on the article right now. Yes, these are great ideas. My idea is the CPP would stop being radicalized and be part of politics in terms agrarian reform. The Communist Insurgency ends somewhere in 2011, with all rebels laying down their arms and given government sponsored programs. However, the country still faces the Islamic Insurgency from Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters, Moro Islamic Lineration Front, rogue Moro National Liberation Front, and the Al-Qaeda linked Abu-Sayaff Gillan1220 (talk) 07:50, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
Request to join and help
- I'm happy that you are interested in working on this timeline. You are more than welcome to work on an Italy article, though all I request is that you read and follow the Editorial Guidelines. Other than that, I could see several interesting possibilities for Italy.
- Similar to France and Germany, Italy would be very friendly with the Soviet Union (if not more so that the former two). Both would be economically co-operative. Some Italians may possibly migrate to the USSR during the Great Recession. I could see Berlusconi being good buddies with Alexander Lebed. I look forward to seeing what you can add. -- NuclearVacuum 21:15, January 11, 2016 (UTC)
- So far so good. Some copy editing will have to be done before canonization, but nothing to worry about. The only issue I have (though it being a minuscule one) is that you have not incorporated any timeline elements into your article (as of yet). -- NuclearVacuum 20:59, January 14, 2016 (UTC)
Presidential Election 2016
Who do you think will be running in the 2016 presidential election in New Union. -- Goldwind1
- Of what contries ? Col. James Hsu
I believe they're referring to the the United States, James (no worries).
I currently don't have any ideas in mind, as I'm still working out what the United States will look like politically. Though it's only headcanon, I've been toying around with the possibility that the Occupy Movement becomes a larger political faction within the Democratic Party, while the Tea Party Movement fizzles out (compared to OTL).From that, my guess is that the Democrats would support someone more left-wing, while the GOP sticks to someone from the establishment (if not someone more moderate).
Elizabeth Warren could be the Democratic front-runner, as she'd be an "Occupier" and would be the first female candidate (with Hillary Clinton likely remaining out of the presidential arena). Other that come to mind could be Bernie Sanders (though he'd potentially remain out and support Warren), Barack Obama (who'd still be an Illinois Senator), and Martin O'Malley (who'd potential be a compromise candidate).
After having two terms with President Rudy Giuliani, the GOP could attempt to remain moderate or move further right. Vice President Mike Huckabee (ATL) would no doubt run. Other candidates could include Jeb Bush (who wouldn't have his brother's "legacy" interfering with his candidacy), Chris Christie (who'd politically be comparable to Rudy), Mitt Romney (another possible Rudy clone), Carly Fiorina, John Kasich, and maybe Rand Paul. Donald Trump could potentially run, though I'm not sure his momentum would be the same as OTL.
- You are more than welcome to contribute. All I ask is that you read and follow the Editorial Guidelines. What specific topic did you have in mind? -- NuclearVacuum 01:38, January 12, 2016 (UTC)
The FIFA World Cup and how that would change as I currently have a book out from my library that has the WC results from 1930-2006. Also I sort of use it for my own timeline. Matt121 ??? Matt125 (Talk) 04:58, January 12, 2016 (UTC)
- I can't wait to see what you have in mind. All that I can add is that the USSR would likely fair much better (compared to the individual CIS members) and the the venues of the 2018 World Cup would be more spread out across the USSR (e.g., Kiev, Minsk, Tashkent, etc.). Sorry I can't be of much more help (not being much of a sports fan), but I look forward to seeing your progress. -- NuclearVacuum 20:54, January 12, 2016 (UTC)
The main change would be in qualifying from Asia and Europe with all of those countries now being one. It could possibly change the whole World Cup. But first I need to get started with 1994. Also can I use the template with the flag on it for my timeline as that might be a good use? Matt121 ??? Matt125 (Talk) 23:57, January 12, 2016 (UTC)
Other Proposals I Made
Vietnam today remains a vital ally of the Soviet Union in Southeast Asia, as a counter to both Chinese and American influence in the region. The Soviet Navy still uses Cam Ranh Bay Naval Base as part of the War on Terror. Vietnam supports both the USA, NATO, CTSO and the USSR in their fight against piracy and Islamic extremism. In this timeline, Bill Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam in 1995 (same as OTL) the US lifts the embargo on Vietnam the same way as it did in OTL (2016). The country is facing a territoreal dispute with China over the Paracel Islands and the Spratly Islands, and is currently cooperating with the Philippines against China.
Happens two years earlier compared to OTL. In 2014, the Government of the Philippines reached out final peace solution with the Communist Party of the Philippines, the armed wing New People's Army, and the National Democratic Front. Talks were held in Oslo, Norway.
Proposal- Perstrokia 2.0 In America
Hey there, Nuke and everyone
I have an idea considering the effects of the Soviet Union's reformation of the United States.
Though it did not occur in Regan's presidency the total dissolution of the USSR in 1991 brought more legtimency to the ideals he had voiced, and the conservative movement that had taken the United States by storm in the 1980's. The extingushing of "evil empire" was a symbol of the new global age led by rightegous American aims, as a city on hill to the world. While there were other great emerging powers say China and India, not many challanged the ideals of Conservative America in the 1990's. This was true inside, and outside the country
However is the Soviet Union reformed and surivied, the image of America to itself and the meaning of the 80's and 90's would change to America's people. While the conservative vision would not be discarded it would certainly be questioned.
Organically, the 90's recession of America would provoke both sections of working and educated middle class Americans to start a movement to bring about America's own Peristrokia. While Peristrokia would not be used as a name for most common people, the connection would be clear. Of course unlike the USSR's this would come from the bottom up, than the up-bottom reforms brought by gorbechev.
Specific problems that the movement would confront would be globalazation, enviromental concerns offshoring, the drug war, mass incarcation and the government's response to the HIV epidemic, and the wealth inequality that emerged in the 80s
Regardless of the results this would most impact how peope in the early 21st century viewed the USSR's reform years and the Cold War. If both sides came to a "reformation" people's ideas about power and idelogies would be change. How, I can't even predict, but there would be changes
This would certainly change politics in the U.S not exactly as a left reacton to the right, but rather a wider public reaction to the previous decades.
War of Pridnestrovie
I wanted to expand the timeline further by focusing on this timeline's version of the Transnistria War. The link is below, and I am also interesting on working on further military conflicts in this timeline...
Hello, Could I Join? I was wondering if I could contribute, as I have a knowledge of Germany, and its OTL state. I am also intrested in China, and how it could be affected.
New Presidental Elections in 2019
Well, I am new here. I want to talk about the New Union's Soviet presidental election of 2017. It's 2019 now and Tereshkova still in power. Did she draw a constitusional changes? Or this talk was dissolved. Please, creator of the New Union, NuclearVaccum, help me.
Guys, sorry because I chat in the wrong article. So, it's 2019, the USSvr.R needs to have a new president. Well, NuclearVaccum and our comrades in the New Union's Duma (talk pages), I guess we will have some notables candidates for the USSvr.R elections:
1. Vladimir Putin (Democratic Party)
2. PM Nikita Ryzhkov/ Grigory Yavlinsky (no relations to Grandpa Nikolai Ryzhkov) (Liberal Party)
3. Gennadi Seleznyov (CPSU- Communists for Democracy)
4. Gennadi Zyuganov (CPSU-Conservative Nationalist)
5. Vladimir Zhirinovsky (Nationalist
Socialist Workers' Party of Russia)
Any decisions then vote later
- Just in case you didn't notice, I messaged you on your talk page. -- NuclearVacuum 00:25, November 4, 2019 (UTC)