Talk:Rise of the Statelets

This timeline (other suggestions for name will be considered) should be about 'actual or historical entities acquiring greater autonomy' rather than fantasy history.

There is much room for development: the intent is to create a more complex world than in OTL - how would the United Nations look, for example? Jackiespeel 18:04, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't disimilar to an idea I've been nursing. Presumably any microstates in Britain could be called 'Britadels'. Fegaxeyl 18:12, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

There are various possibilities - eg Germany and Italy remain disunited.

How would Lundy, Hay on Wye and Sealand be incorporated into this project? Jackiespeel 18:36, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Is this an open/collaborative project? Fegaxeyl 19:23, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes: at present seeing what emerges with a lead on the 20th century. The definition of 'statelet' is also open ended: so multinational companies, 'large cruise ships perpetually traversing the high seas' etc can be included.

Statelets in established timelines can be linked here (eg Danzig) - and there are probably various divergent timelines within this idea (eg Russian Revolution/end of the Soviet Union in both cases ending up in many little states). Jackiespeel 22:32, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

I had a flash of inspiration today: perhaps something involving the free cities of the Hanseatic League could provide some sort of POD? Fegaxeyl 15:28, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

There could well be more than one timeline arising depending on the statelets (and other small entities) people find of interest - we all have our pet historical persons, events and geographical entities etc (g).

With a Medieval-ish starting point - have various bits of what became Germany and Italy, the Spanish-French border entities of which Andorra is the only survivor etc. Other PODs - post-Napoleon and 'start of the 20th century - China fragments after the 1912 revolution, Russia from 1917, Treaty of Versailles and mosaic regions, the Princely States of India etc. Jackiespeel 20:45, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

To avoid excessive-red-linkism I have only put in a few entries so far. Following on from Fegaxeyl - if a 'medieval' starting point is used, other entities could be included - religious communities, the Thurn and Taxis postal system etc. Jackiespeel 16:39, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

A more divided Europe could lead to less pronounced colonialism; we may be looking at a fragmented North America, and a more ethnically-directed and less colonial chunk-directed African political map. Fegaxeyl 16:55, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can see two distinct Statelets timelines emerging if there is sufficient interest. One begins in the Middle Ages with, in Europe, the Hanse League, 'the multiplicity of entities that become Germany in OTL', Franco-Spanish border entities etc not merging into larger entities to produce Mosaicworld. The other developing in the 'modern world' the colonies of the US do not unite, the post-Napoleonic settlement, and the development of some modern large states, but with more statelets.

Further suggestions? Jackiespeel 18:08, May 26, 2010 (UTC)