Talk

This is the Talk Page. Your War Declarations, major issues that are too big to be discussed on the game page, and Alogorithms go here. Please make a new Header for each new topic.

Announcements

August 07. 2013 Updates to the Algo will be put into play next turn.

War

  • You may declare a war on any country on your turn
  • You may have any NPC declare war on you as long as it is plausible
  • Use the appropriate algorithms for all attacks
  • Each enemy encounter is a single battle
  • Keep in mind that it may take several battles to crush your enemies.
  • Upon entering enemy territory remember that after pushing back enemy forces, you must allot time to occupation. Keep in mind how big an area might be, and how many soldiers you have to enter the countryside. Also keep in mind where they are getting their supplies. If a clear stockpile or route for supplies isn’t available, your forces may have to pillage the local villages or face death from attrition. Once an area is occupied, you do not own it. It is still the defender’s land, but you are currently controlling it. Annexation of enemy’s land is later agreed upon in the peace treaty.
  • This algorithm must be used for any war/battle/conflict involving a player. This includes player-versus-player wars and player-versus-NPC wars. Moderators will post these algorithms. These algorithms are final. Disregarding the outcome of the algorithm will result in a ban!
  • All nations are encourage to think tactically and develop actual plans for invasions/battles. By publishing a description of your actions (or making a page documenting your pre-battle maneuvers) you will be more likely to succeed.

Declaration

Use the following algorithm to determine if your stability drops when declaring war. Add up the number at the end, and that is how many points you lose (negative does nothing). Note if you fail to reach one of your objectives then your stability drops by two. 

The causi belli "faked terrorist attack" includes any events that you created in your turn. Faked terrorist attacks must be used cautiously. Every time they are used there is a small chance that the public will uncover the true, which can have negative consequences.

Causi Belli

  • Unjustly attacked (-5)
  • Terrorist attack (-3)
  • Attacked ally (-2)
  • Faked Terrorist Attack (-1)
  • Political blunder (-1)
  • None (+3)

Objective

Acquire Core Wish to annex a province/state that is our rightful land.
(-2)

Annex Territory Wish to annex a province/state.
(+3)

Add to Sphere We wish to forcefully establish this state under our sphere of influence, establishing a puppet state.
(+2) Assert Hegemony Forcefully take back state(s) that are culturally similar to ours from another great power's sphere of influence.
(+1) Civil War Take back land that has been claimed by rebels.
(0)

Conquest We wish to forcefully annex this smaller state
(+4)

Containment We believe this state is becoming too powerful and must be contained.
(+1)

If in a coalition of three or more nations: (0) Cut Down to Size We wish to partially remove this nation's military so they are no longer a threat.
(+2)

Demand Concession We demand this state cede one of their colonies to us.

(+3)

Establish Protectorate We wish to establish this state as a protectorate.

(+2) Free People We wish to liberate provinces that have been wrongfully occupied or annexed, and give them back to their rightful owners.

(-1) Humiliate We wish to lower this nation's prestige and political standing.


(+3) Release Puppet We demand that this state release other nations that they have forced into becoming a puppet.

(+1) Restore Order Used to annex a nation that is comprised completely of our core states. We believe every one of its provinces belong to us.

(0) War of Unification We are annexing states that are culturally part of a greater nation.

(0) No Objective We don't even know why we're here, we're just mad.

(+4) Modifiers Pacifist government: (+2)
Religious motive: (-2)
Breaking treaty: (+3)
Frequent Enemy: (-1)

Total Add up your score from all of the declarations and objectives. If your number is positive, subtract that number from your stability. If it is zero, or negative, nothing happens.

When declaring war it is encouraged to write your declaration on the talk page, so you can specify your objectives.

Algorithm

Discussion before start

I do like that we are re-starting this. Please do it soon. Kurt Cobain's Haircut (talk)

Proposal for the restart

New map? "SO SAYETH THE EAGLE" - Fascist Eagle ಠ_ಠ (talk)

I'll improve it when I can. Either tonight or tomorrow. I'll do a labelled map too. -Crim

When is the game restarting? Kurt Cobain's Haircut (talk)

Is it a restart or a resumption? Because it should be a restart. Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Restart or Resume

Ladies (The very few) and Gentlemen, it has come to my attention that there are differing views for how this new RDE should conduct itself. Some. mainly veteran players, would like to keep their hard work, and resume from where the game left off with some changes for the sake of fairness. Others, both new and veteran players, would like to restart RDE to it's original point of soon (Or 100 years) after the Punic Wars, and give RDE a fresh restart for plausible and fair play. Both sides have very convincing arguments, so, in the sake of fairness and choice, I wish to allow the players of the game to decide what they wish to do, because if the players don't like it, then it ends up dying. So what'll it be?

Restart

Resume

Discussion

I have an idea.

From what Eip has told me, people want to resume so their turns are not deleted. So why don't we just create a new page? RDE Restarted, or something to that affect. That seems to address everyone's problems. Unless people have another reason to resume, in which case... IDK Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

I feel like the game was to long ago to just resume it Kurt Cobain's Haircut (talk)

As long as I can still be the Mayans I'm down for a restart LightningLynx89

Mod

May I be a mod? If not, that's ok, I just wanted to help keep it plausible, and keep tech relative to the time. (Ie: no nukes in 1000 AD). Daeseunglim (talk)

Americas Dearth

I just want to point out there is literally 1 player in the Americas, but I also want to play in the Americas except it would be boring with only 1 other player. If a couple other people sign up for the Americas I will too (please leave the Inuits or Chihuahua open for me). C'mon, Sunset Invasion FTW! Kurt Cobain's Haircut (talk

Make that two. Krasnoyarsk 16:42, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Aetolian War of Aggression against Macedonia

Battle of Megopolis

Aetolian League of the Pelopanese

  • Location: 20
  • Tactical Advantage (Attacker): 2
  • Scores: 2/16 = 0
    • Mil Score: 2
    • Econ Score: 2
      • ​Econ Bonus: -2
  • ​Nations Per Side: Sparta (L) = 5/18 = 0
  • Expansion: -3
  • Motive: 5 + 4 = 9
    • ​Modifier: 4
  • Tiers: 1/6 = 0
  • Chance: 10
  • Stability: 24 (Average of the states)
  • Participation: 10
  • Number of Troops:

​Total: 72 (Without troops or casus belli done to affect Stability)

Achean League under Macedonia

  • Location: 25
  • Tactical Advantage (Defender): 3
  • Scores: 16/2 = 8
    • Mil Score: 6
    • Infra Score: 0
      • ​Econ Bonus: 10
  • ​Nations Per Side: Achean League (L), Macedonia (L), Epirus (M) = 13/5 = 2.6
  • Expansion: -3
  • Motive: 10 + 15 = 25
    • ​Modifier: 3, 3, 4, 5 = 15
  • Tiers: 5/1 = 5
  • Chance: 8
  • Stability: 25 (Average of the states)
  • Participation: 10
  • Number of Troops:

​Total: 108.6 (Without troop numbers)

Discussion

Battle of Elis

Aetolian League of the Pelopanese

  • Location: 20
  • Tactical Advantage (Defender): 3
  • Scores: 2/16 = 0
    • Mil Score: 2
    • Econ Score: 2
      • ​Econ Bonus: -2
  • ​Nations Per Side: Sparta (L) = 5/18 = 0
  • Expansion: -3
  • Motive: 5 + 4 = 9
    • ​Modifier: 4
  • Tiers: 1/6 = 0
  • Chance: 4
  • Stability: 24
  • Participation: 10
  • Number of Troops:

​Total: 67 (Without troops)

Achean League under Macedonia

  • Location: 20
  • Tactical Advantage (Attacker): 1
  • Scores: 16/2 = 8
    • Mil Score: 6
    • Infra Score: 0
      • ​Econ Bonus: 10
  • ​Nations Per Side: Achean League (L), Macedonia (L), Epirus (M) = 13/5 = 2.6
  • Expansion: -3
  • Motive: 10 + 15 = 25
    • ​Modifier: 3, 3, 4, 5 = 15
  • Tiers: 5/1 = 5
  • Chance: 5
  • Stability: 25 (Average of the states)
  • Participation: 10
  • Number of Troops:

​Total: 98.6 (Without Troops)

Discussion

Battle of Sparta

Aetolian League of the Pelopanese

  • Location: 25
  • Tactical Advantage (Defender): 4
  • Scores: 2/16 = 0
    • Mil Score: 2
    • Econ Score: 2
      • ​Econ Bonus: -2
  • ​Nations Per Side: Sparta (L) = 5/18 = 0
  • Expansion: -3
  • Motive: 5 + 4 = 9
    • ​Modifier: 4
  • Tiers: 1/6 = 0
  • Chance: 3
  • Stability: 24
  • Participation: 10
  • Number of Troops:

​Total: 72 (Without Troops)

Achean League under Macedonia

  • Location: 20
  • Tactical Advantage (Attacker): 1
  • Scores: 16/2 = 8
    • Mil Score: 6
    • Infra Score: 0
      • ​Econ Bonus: 10
  • ​Nations Per Side: Achean League (L), Macedonia (L), Epirus (M) = 13/5 = 2.6
  • Expansion: -3
  • Motive: 10 + 15 = 25
    • ​Modifier: 3, 3, 4, 5 = 15
  • Tiers: 5/1 = 5
  • Chance: 7
  • Stability: 25 (Average of the states)
  • Participation: 10
  • Number of Troops:

​Total: 100.6 (Without troop numbers)

Discussion

Britannia

I have an issue here. The Damnii are mentioned by 1 source, once, and only in the second century. Meanwhile, the Votadini are mentioned frequently by several contemporary sources, and almost certainly existed at this time.

This shouldn't be an issue, except that they both hold the same territory. I suspect that the Votadini changed into the Damnii over time, or have more than 1 name, but all I know is, the Votadini existed at this point, and nothing says the Damnii did. So that is why I don't think the Damnii should be on the nations list.

Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

Canari-Quitu War 

Battle of (Insert)

Canari

  • Casus Belli: Faked Attack (not terrorists, but…) -1
    • Establish Protectorate: +2
    • Religious Motive: -2
    • Total: -1
  • Algorithm:
    • Next to location of war: +20
    • Tactical Advantage: 2
    • Nations: Canari (L) = 5
    • Military Development: -2
    • Economic Development: -1
    • Motive: Religious +7 +5 +4 +5 = 21
      • Larger Economy: +5
      • Non-dem Supported: +4
      • Troop Morale High:+5
      • Larger Trade: +5
    • Tier: +5
    • Participation: +10
    • Number of Troops: 1500/500 = 3
    • Bonuses: Religious Calling: +1
    • Stability: 15
    • Chance: 10 "SO SAYETH THE EAGLE" - Fascist Eagle ಠ_ಠ (talk)
  • Total: 79

Quintus

Discussion

Seleucid-Atropatanae War

Battle of Lake Urmya

Seleucids

  • Casus Belli: Political Blunder (-1)
    • Humiliate: (-1)
    • Total: -2
  • Algorithm:
    • Next to location of war: +20
    • Tactical Advantage
    • Nations: Seleucid (L) = 5
    • Military Development: 6/
      • Empire (+3)
    • Economic Development: 0/
      • Empire (+3)
    • Motive: Political +5
      • Larger Economy: +5
      • Non-dem Supported: +4
      • Larger Trade: +5
    • Tier: +5
    • Participation: +10
    • Number of Troops: 12,000/
    • Bonuses: Imperial Ambitions (+3)
    • Stability:
    • Chance:
  • Total: 

Atropatanae

  • At Location:+25
  • Military: /6 =
  • Economy: /0 =
  • Motive: +10
  • Non-dem Supported:+4
  • Participation: +10
  • Number of Troops: /12,000 
  • Bonus: N/A
  • Stability
  • Chance:
  • Total:

Absent

I will be absent till Sunday next week because of vacation(finnaly).

Mr YOLO (talk) 18:24, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Questions

Hello, I'd like to join this map game, but before I do so I would like an answer to a question (actually two inter-related questions) I have. Are there any "Proto-Slavic" tribes/peoples in this game? If so which are they? The reason I'm asking is I'm interested in playing one, but if not I'll just play the Caledoni. A quick response would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance,


I feel stupid asking this question.... how do you join the game?

Thanks so much for the help,

Pesco27

Go to the page choose faction, click edit and then look at what others did

Adamgerd (talk) 17:53, October 8, 2014 (UTC)Adamgerd

Saiyanscars (talk) 22:26, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

I have a question there are two pontuses, which is the real one

I have requested to play as a country, so what do I do next? Do I just start? NathanialPrice 3:03, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Dorset Republic

Are the Dorset tribes taken? If not, would you all be so kind as to grant me them?

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