Switzerland[]
Why would someone nuke Switzerland? Enclavehunter (talk) 06:12, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Um, numerous internation organizations have HQs in Geneva, birthplace of the internet, CERN. Second largest UN complex after New York. Scandinator (talk) 07:17, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
- Switzerland has always been neutral right? Gillan1220 (talk) 15:34, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
- From the medioeve yes Col. James Hsu (talk) 08/07/2016
List[]
There's too many strikes in the list; especially in the third world, where the strikes seem to be trying to kill as many people possible but leave the military intact, which I imagine is not what anyone would want to happen in a nuclear apocalypse scenario. Which leads me to asking if I can edit the Latin America strike list to add strikes and modify a few? Fed (talk) 19:44, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
Could you suggest the changes here? Scandinator (talk) 16:40, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I've got a map in my sandbox showing the (most likely extremely too many striked :P) changes but (with exception of Bogotá) would hit the minor cities besides the big ones with proper military bases (Bahía Málaga instead of Cali/Buenaventura, Rionegro instead of Medellín are the two main I'd imagine).
Are there not going to be any more strikes or are you looking for more? Because in both ways it's okay.
Also, I assume the list doesn't include conventional missiles? Fed (talk) 17:06, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
But I doubt they would send conventional missiles to South America. Also the targets in South America or secondary or tertiary. They are to cause as much chaos and disruption to the economies and infrastructure of that nation as possible.Scandinator (talk) 02:27, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
I'd actually believe it'd be more likely for conventional missiles to be sent rather than nuclear ones. Also, yes, it's meant to damage infrastructure and economical output, not kill as many people as possible senselessly, and by removing the airports and air bases you're doing just that; since Colombia is horribly difficult to travel through by car, if you destroy the airbases and naval bases, and then nuke Bogotá, then you swamp the centre of Colombia, effectively collapsing the infrastructure. And since Cali and Medellín are already full of displaced people, if you strike Rionegro and Buenaventura, and then use a few conventional missiles, you'll swamp them too.
Saves a lot of lifes and nukes while it also amounts to the same thing; a collapse of the Colombian state and of the infrastructure of the area. Fed (talk) 02:36, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
I doubt they would care about lives saved and they would wish to permanently devastate infrastructure. However the yields for South American areas were very low compared to other parts of the world. Scandinator (talk) 04:19, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
But still, you're taking the wrong strike; maybe you've damaged their population, but the military will be almost intact, with, in any case of survival, a conventional bombing capacity remains very large. And anyway, the changes I propose (change Medellín for Rionegro and Cali for Bahía Málaga/Buenaventura) will still destroy infrastructure (most of the highways from Medellín to Bogotá and other important cities, as well as the airport, pass through Rionegro, for example). Those parts of infrastructure not hurt by bombing or flooding by refugees will be abandoned when national/international communications and trade collapse. All in all, again, it's the same effect with a lower death toll (and I do guess they have at least some concern of "not killing as much as possible". Also, my plans for Antioquia don't work without a few people that are in Medellín today so that's also a factor. :P Fed (talk) 04:45, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
US Strikes[]
In listing the strikes against the United States, I would suggest starting off with major cities: Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, D.C., and then determine which cities, towns, or bases are struck by nuclear devices. Enclavehunter (talk) 20:26, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
I've put together a decent list already, including a desperate attempt by the Russians to put the Minuteman missiles out of buisiness. After I finish tidying that list up I'll put it in source mode. Scandinator (talk) 01:44, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
My rough idea of the strikes in Oregon:
- Portland
- Kalamath Falls (Home to the Oregon Air National Guard at Kingsley Field).
- Umatilla Chemical Depot? (No longer stores weapons, scheduled for closure in 2015).
I am from Pennsylvania...This is a rough sketch that I have for nuclear strikes, primary (1st wave of nuclear missiles), secondary (2nd wave of nuclear missiles/1st wave of nuclear bombers), and tertiary targets (2nd wave of nuclear bombers, 1st wave of cruise missiles: Primary: Either None or Philadelphia. Secondary: Pittsburg, Harrisburg, Erie, York, and Philadelphia. Tertiary: Willows Grove, Lancaster, Allentown, Altoona, Chester, and Fort Indiantown Gap.Daeseunglim (talk) 18:40, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
Ground Zero II[]
Here's a nuke simulator I found using Google Maps: http://www.carloslabs.com/node/20 Bfoxius (talk)
Korea[]
I’m fairly certain at least 2 other targets in South Korea would have been hit… but alright with me :) 
PitaKang- (But here's my number|So call me maybe) 18:11, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
North Korea asked China and Russia not to hit targets in South Korea as it wished for a united Korea. the apocalypse is followed by an invasion of South Korea. Scandinator (talk) 01:54, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Riverside, CA[]
Being a long-time resident of Southern California, I don't believe that Riverside, CA or San Bernardino, CA would be struck by a nuclear device.
Reasons being:
- First, the only main purpose Riverside and San Bernardino the two cities serves in a war effort against China and Russia is being the hub for transportation. However, the transportation capablities would've been crippled by the EMP, which would clog all freeways and raillines with fried out trains and automobiles. The nearest airports (Riverside Municipal Airport, San Bernardino International Airport, and March Air Reserve Base) would've been clogged with crashed aircraft as a result of the EMP.
- San Bernardino International Airport, despite its name, has little to no activity. With the closeure of Norton Air Force Base in 1995, there is not a single military base in the region, besides March AFB, which only operates C-17's, which are useless if there is no fuel to fuel their engines with and the electronics fried by an EMP.
- Second, there is no industrial capabilities in the region, only a quarry mine and a small naval research station in Corona, but that's all what's in the region. The economy of the region is based around University of California, Riverside, the nearby school district, and the financial sector, which all would've been crippled by the EMP.
I believe that these two cities should be removed from the list as nuclear targets and instead be replaced by Anaheim (major city and industrial center), Fort Irwin and Barstow (where military vehicles are repaired to working condition).
However, its your TL, and you do what you want. I just thought I should point this out.
Enclavehunter (talk) 21:28, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
Philippines[]
You mean to tell me that the Philippines was not hit by any nuclear devices on December 21st? Godfrey Raphael (talk) 00:13, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Nope. The Philippines escaped unscathed. Scandinator (talk) 17:29, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Fort Ord[]
Ft Ord is a state park/ nature preserve for an endangered butterfly and college since 1994 when the army left; there nothing worth blowing up.
Iwaschris (talk) 01:26, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
South Africa[]
How come South Africa didnt get hit?
Not worth a Russian or Chinese ICBM. Scandinator (talk) 14:35, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
And Sengal is?The old baby (talk) 14:42, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to focus on California. So South Africa is open for developement. I also think we need a proposal system. Enclavehunter (talk) 05:42, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
Senegal was worth an Israeli one...
Korean targets[]
I hope you guys realized that nuking Busan and Seoul means leaving most US military personnel in South Korea alive, as well as leaving all the shipyards, harbors, supply depots, etc needed by the US army to fight a war. PitaKang- (We are the Emperor's Chosen|Ave Imperator!) 21:33, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
I doubt the US and South Korean army would be able to withstand a North Korean invasion. The Sth Korean and US technological advantage will be their downfall as planes and ships are knocked out by EMPs and targetting systems are shut down. The North Korean's with their larger and less technologically sophisticated artillery and army units would then swarm South Korean and US units. Scandinator (talk) 14:01, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, most US and South Korean military hardware are hardened against EMPs. PitaKang- (We are the Emperor's Chosen|Ave Imperator!) 14:23, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
- The South would fare better. Bigger population base, EMP protected hardware, nessecary experience to fight a war... I'd put my money on the South.
Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:26, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
- They get hit by 3 EMP waves though... I doubt that most equipment would survive and society itself would break down after just one. Scandinator (talk) 13:09, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
- But US would have nuked Pyongyang or bombed it to dust, along with SK hitting artillery bunkers to prevent that from occuring, not to mention most US ships would have been put out to sea during the war to PREVENT them from being destroyed. I believe that the A-10 Warthog would have survived, due to its hardened construction, along with some C-130's, but most of the missiles and radar would be worse than useless.Daeseunglim (talk) 18:46, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Pyongyang was nuked. Ships are hit by EMPs whether they are at sea or not. Satelites and most communication systems are knocked out by the EMPs as well as radar. Scandinator (talk) 05:29, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Nigeria[]
Why is Nigeria hit? What country striked it and what is the purpose?
My Fanfare and Targets[]
Hello Everyone! i created my fanfare, with story about josiah's family survival in the aftermath of World War III, how can i join or sign up, can i add the list of sites hit in Russia please?