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On doomsday, will you help us destroy China?
Hi, Feudal. I will be out of town for the next four days, so can you post for me?
1895.0 - Friday - Netherland's Queen Wilhelmina and Belgium's Prince Albert, are married in Amsterdam to a crowd of a few thousand. The two nations enter into a dynastic and personal union, and are happily ruled by both Wilhelmina and Leopold II - Albert's father. Suriname grows as it is further industrialized, and Indonesia begins to notice the ample supply of oil stored in its lands and waters.
1895.5 - Saturday - Netherland and Belgium start to become culturally similar, as part of a plan laid out mainly by Georg van Hedrick, the Dutch Prime Minister. They are already very similar, so a common culture is not too farfetched, and the popularity of this blended culture is already growing. Suriname continues to grow, and Indonesia sends geologists and petroleum experts to survey their reserves.
1896.0 - Sunday - The Netherlands and Belgium continue on their path of finding a cultural identity, and they work with the Emperor of Ethiopia, in hopes that Ethiopia will become a Dutch colony and protectorate. Some Belgians and Dutch are still unhappy after the reunion, which came shortly after the 1839 dissolution of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands. van Hedrick continues his policy, nonetheless, and finds some success. Suriname grows more after the industrialization continues, and Indonesia's oil reserve reports come back - there is a large deposit near the islands.
1896.5 - Monday - The Netherlands and Belgium work to unite, and it is announced that in 6 months they will reform the United Dutch and Belgian Kingdom, which will be called the Netherlands for short. Cultural diffusion continues, and more and more people are excited for this historic opportunity. Relations with Ethiopia get even better, and Suriname grows its economy. More and more Dutch are moving in, and the population in 50% Dutch and 50% native. Indonesia begins to invest in oil fields, and onshore drilling.
You may no longer do mod events on South American Rising. You are still a mod and can do everything else, but I will take over on mod events DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:04, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
That makes no sense then... we both do events and you're cutting me out, I'm making sure anything ridiculous doesn't happen and you're never on half the time. I have a schedule, you act like I'm butchering the Game.
Japan is going overboard on expansion, annexing Philippines and Siam and Korea while cooperating with China. It makes no sense. Philippines is fine as is Korea, but Siam would put up hundreds of thousands of troops to fight you off. Just be careful with future expansions, Japans going to fast. Occupied nations will take away from you in future algorithms as will recent wars. Do mod events for everywhere but Asia, those of which I will do, and you will do the rest of the planet DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:10, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
They are not even occupied, the whole reason I created the SDC was to calm down Racial tension period. besides, nobody else posts and the only place anything happens is in Asia. Now if you take advantage of it and start modding me and China into Oblivion than were going to have issues is the clear?
OK, here's the deal. I resigned from being controller of the games affairs because I didn't have much time with class then, like a week or two ago as I had a ton of crap to do. While Seiga is legally higher up on the scale in mod powers than I am now, I am just below her in power and can remove your mod strengths. However, I do not want you banned as honestly a Japanese superpower will be interesting and a Mexican-Japanese alliance could have some very nice affects. I can throw bonuses your way every few years, but I'm sorry the ways that things have been happening have utterly made it insane with the alliances shifting so rapidly and the polarization of Europe this early. It took a death of a high ranking Austrian to start WW1 OTL, and the alliances as of now are here too early. Yes it is ALTERNATE HISTORY, but it still has to be plausible. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:24, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Can I call you, Fred? Sorry, it's just I can't remember your real username. Anyway, so long as there's no war until 1905 we're fine, but the events really are going to fast. seriously I think we need to start cooling it down. And vacant nations are not punished, there players simply removed from that nation, if they come back they can have their nation if its free, otherwise just leave em alone. And player controlled nations make there own alliances, not the mods, that's actually pretty well agreed on. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
OK. I'll do mod events on Europe and Asia, you do them on the rest of the planet. Now here's the thing: I can add some good mod events, but not all years are interesting, look at a broad period of human history, not much interesting there. (not all at once, but add a ton of it up and it numbers in the centuries of boring years politically and militarily. Add a new invention or discovery in place of politics, or economics add some of those, DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:47, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Heyo, because France already invaded Morocco according the the algos, I elected to invade them. Without chance the current result is 418 UIK, Andorra, and Morocco to 224 France. Please look over this algo and if you have any questions contact me. Despite the large victory I will not demand total surrender from France if the player wishes to continue playing. I am thinking taking some (will name later) some French African colonies, Moroccan Independence, and Some territory in/around the med. Since I really only invaded undefended and unexpecting Southern France, I feel that would be the max I could receive. Best Regards G greg e (talk) 17:08, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
Chinese soldiers wore clothing from Dongbei and Inner Manchuria, so I don't think it will be a problem in fighting Russian soldiers and the Russian winter, except if you let more Russians die of coldness, since the Chinese soldiers come from the South, which is relatively warmer.Ninjasvswarriors (talk) 13:16, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
Russian winter is disturbingly Brutal on all fronts ... it's why two of the best armies of all time lost against the Russians. it's not like you could go much farther considering the Russians have six million standard troops and are being armed by the US.
Well, I'm not to pleased with his very obvious abuse of admin powers not to mention deciding to be a selective dick it's not as much a disagreement other than I just plain don't like him, he refuses to follow obvious rules and I remind him plenty, if there was I way I could be unbanned and have him removed as an admin or have him unable to handle anything pertaining to my account that would be lovely. not to mention he decides to cuss me out like once daily purely with half of it a misunderstanding and the rest being just pure spite. I don't appreciate it, and no offense but the way hes action hurts all of you, if he decides to do this again to someone else he hasn't learned anything, so someone with that kind of attitude shouldn't have that kind of power. Thanks for showing me the others wiki though much appreciated.
South American Rising
Can you respond to my mod responses. All but Gibraltar should be RNGd.
World Rivalries has started
NotLAH: French Surrender
Hey Feudal do you think you can finally surrender to the allied coalition. If you post in your next turn something similar to this and bold it: We ask for a ceasefire to surrender to the allied coalition. The allied coalition might stop attacking you okay. Also you need to make sure that you say in your turn that you order all of your troops to stand down. If you can do this as France next time you're available, please do so.
In SAR I would like to establish a joint protectorate over Chile, and I would like it to become the Confederate Provinces of Chile, which would be a Confederation. You can annex Chilean Tierra del Feugo. Also we can both as mods keep the USA neutral, as it attacking Chile after refusing would seem stupid. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It
Well, I limit the RNG's pretty heavily so that they don't contradict as for Chile its Already been a Brazilian issue for a while before you decided to get involved, most of the rest of the continent is under Brazilian Influence, As for Joint Protectorate I don't like that, how about a thing like North and South Korea, minus the big ass war, You get Northern Chile and I'll establish my Own thing in Southern Chile, the country will be split in half. But Just Know Brazil will be PISSED at both of us, so we both will eventually have to deal with them who haven't fallen apart like our time line, but I'm thinking more like a Vassal of Southern Chile instead of a full confederacy. Joint protectorate status doesn't work too well. Also, Dean, your six million man army has got to go, your economy will literally be crushed by that crazy amount of manpower. you've got to be realistic with that, I've got 120 million people in my Empire and only field just over two million Feudalplague (talk) 05:09, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting me on SAR, I appreciate it. Also pertaining to the Ottomans, I think we should have them either join the SDC or be neutral in the next big conflict, your call. What the Ottomans need is a playable player, I think it would be pretty interesting. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It
Dude, the war is fair, I never controlled the Ottomans, I made up a terrorist group of Turks, who aren't affiliated nor endorsed by the government of the Ottomans but use their lands as hiding places, what I'm doing is what the USA did in Afghanistan with al Qaeda, and due to being without any permission the Ottomans would declare war right when I enter my troops in their Balkanic holdings Sine dei gloriem (talk) 21:56, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
Well, honestly the SDC is closed to membership from pretty much all large nations now.. there has to be competition. As for war, anyone can declare war on anyone at anytime no water what the Iranian could Declare war on OTL US at any point but it just wouldn't work out too well for them. as for Greece and the Ottomans they easily have bad blood/historical tension. Now as it stands I only deleted the full intervention cause we wont get any new players if every new player can get an empire right off the bat, but I'd say the Greeks have a decent chance considering the Ottomans have a lot of occupying to do in Persia for the time being as well as the fact the Greeks are getting all the benefits of being an SDC military member which are state of the art technology and training, and support when justified. However, going to Sine where he said it wasn't the Ottomans just Turkish radicals that's totally plausible too. if you think about it World War 1 in OTL was kicked off by some Radical Serbians killing Franz Ferdinand forcing a war. now if something like that was organized I could allow it due to tensions of the time but we have to find a good balance. So Dean and Sine its semi implausible the Greeks would attack without the right support and as Japan Dean brought up the point I can't do it since we were LITERALLY just allies against the Persians. However, a Localized war with public support could easily go in the Greeks Favor and throw most of the Balkans except for Istanbul to Greek control. Please make a few more points so I can move along with a tie breaker decision.Feudalplague (talk) 22:20, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
Why are you changing my corrections back to wrong spellings, etc?
South American Rising (Map Game)
Nueva España said they have trains... Trains haven't been invented yet.
Axis vs Allies
Hey Feud. A long time ago you signed up for Axis vs Allies: Reborn (Map Game) as the USSR. Now Scraw would also like to be the USSR. You don't have to give up the USSR to Scraw, but please just think about it. If you're not the USSR, a lot of countries like France, Japan, and possibly Germany are open. Thanks! PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 13:27, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
No offense, but I just don't want to see a superpower fall into the wrong hands, ya know? I don't have much experience with you and haven't seen you play that many of the plausible games. SAR and NotLAH are both ASB.
16:37, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yea you're good. As far as being in a plausible map game, I know what you mean I just wasn't too interested in PMII and I got goat-roped into joining NotLaH and im also got goat-roped into modding SAR. It wont be in terrible hands, I'm pretty knowledgeable of the USSR of the time especially their woeful unpreparedness thanks to Stalin. I'd like to Stay the USSR because as them I would know what I'm doing. etc, I won't be the wrong hands. Feudalplague (talk) 16:44, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
OK fine. Now I have to go play Japan ... and Pita's naturally going to revolt Korea ...
16:47, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
LOL, I'm sorry. Hey, play your Cards Right Japan will get its Asian Empire Much like it wanted, As For Korea try to slowly be less Japan-oriented and do the Asia For Asiatics like OTL but actually back it up and make the nations you conquer actually agree with it, instead of it being Japanese Centric do it Asian Centric, that way you can recruit from them too.
That's the plan. Just don't attack me! I'm gonna try to stay away from the larger war.
16:59, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
Anyasj (I can't spell whatever that says) Empire
Nah, it's cool. There were just a couple of ... concerns that you might be sockpuppeting the other account to give yourself an advantage in the game. I'm sure all this will be sorted out quickly. Thanks! PitaKang- My Life for Aiur! En Taro Tassadar 19:57, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
Romae Delenda Est
Hey Feud, you can't make your own RNG decisions like you did for your turn in RDE in 213 BC. It'll cause a conflict of interest and show an assured bias, which doesn't look good for the map game. RNG decisions will now be revealed in mod events the next turn. Thanks for understanding! Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 18:12, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
All right.. I don't get how it shows assured bias especially since I did it last turn and didn't get the RNG for it.
I'm sorry you didn't get an RNG before, trying to work on getting everyone's everything, but it shows assured bias because it's you accepting your own proposal. It's like sockpuppeting to get a nation to capitulate to your decisions. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:04, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
No I did one yesterday and I lost it as in I did the RNG and it was on the side of them not joining me.
But it just looks back when a person does their own RNG's, even if they are mods. How would it look if I requested that the Iberian tribes accept vassalization, did my own RNG, and posted myself that they accepted. It may be correct, but we have to make minor sacrifices just so it doesn't come across to anyone as god modding. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:20, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
Well, do an RNG for me and let me know the result here on my talk page, please.
I just did it from Random.org, and I got a 10. I know that the scale for RNG's are 1-10, but I don't know which number sets mean agreement, and which ones do not. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 19:27, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
For future reference 1-4 are yes 5 isn't used and is a recount. And 6-10 are no
Remember, I am away for the next week. I will tell you when I am back, so no events, Greg is posting me continuing what I am doing so far, but nothing else, so no events about me please Mafia (talk) 22:55, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
I see you are back to your old tactics, FP. I thought we had this solved yesterday? And now today you cross out my posts again. I find your behavior objectionable. Let's just say that Macedonia never conquered Appolonia or Thracia. What for you still keep bugging me? What's up with you. And if you are such a hard-core about the algorithm, then you may kindly do it for me. If you were not blind you would have noticed I_tried _my_best. By disregarding everything you are just spoiling the map game. Forget about it and move on. You are now a minor irritation for me. VX-641 (talk) 20:35, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
There were no solving, it was pointed out by two separate admins that you are talking to one of the MOD's of the map game. as it stands the Other Head moderator Agrees with me in that you are required to the the Algorithm in order to advance. as for me doing it for you, if you had kindly asked about two days ago maybe I would have, but continued defiance of my actions, and blatant disregarding of Rules has inclined me to do otherwise. it is not that hard. follow the format and math, look up the things you need to look up and you would be done. As for Spoiling. I have done no such thing to anyone else because THEY FOLLOW OUR RULES. If you would please look at the rules, as well as the algo and actually do them when you say you're going to do them we wouldn't have this issue. my Goal is to keep the game plausible and fun for everyone, you're Severely hampering that by declaring you've done things when you don't even control the territory that you're doing things in. Ive talked about it with another player, Who also commented on your lack of an algorithm. And another Moderator who agrees with me. You have also Called in an Administrator who told you exactly what was going on. as for my conquest of Appolonia and Thracia... I went through all the correct steps to attack/conquer them.. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 20:53, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
The Large Scale Revolt would force them to keep troops domestic. its implausible to contribute to someones invasion while you're in the middle of a developing rebellion. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:39, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
What I meant was (no offense intended) you didn't really post anything that helped me aside from the 8000 troops promise, so how do you get half of it? (no offense meant, really) iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:41, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
8000 troops kind of Warrants it. the southern parts the are currently Byzantine by culture.. so as it stands me having half of Galatia inst all the implausible, as for the invasion you got more than you would've than the three-way split would've done. but I don't think that map it totally final, if there's anything you would like changed (short of Egypt getting any territory because its rebellion preventing a lot of expansion at all) let me know if anything I could purchase the other areas from you so its not as much an issue. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:48, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
OK. I was just frazzled because you said that you offered 8000 and I agreed but you didn't post anything on your regular posts about invading Galatia. but this kinda clears things up now. :) iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:55, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
Well, as it stands, I offered 8000 for you to personally command for the war in general. so for future reference if it's offered ask to clarify, you won the algo so it doesn't matter right now, but the 8000 extra bonus may have been nice ;P. Enjoy your half of Galatia, my friend. May our friendship remain long, and watch out for Parthia, they will be powerful. and are most likely more powerful for you to conquer. defending may be a diff story but watch out. LOL #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:58, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
Enjoy your half too and watch out for Rome, my friend, and yeah, the 8000 would've been nice if I just knew that I would command it. But I won anyway and may our friendship remain long! iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 03:03, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
If you go to war with Egypt while he's on ban, I'll support you. if he's not on ban, I'll still support you. and to give u a heads up I'll invade Colchis in two turns, maybe. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 01:25, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure invading Colchis with your current expansion is a good idea. slow down and rebuild your population you still needed me to send 20,000 mercs to help you beat Armenia. As for Egypt the player is banned for about 200 years so no worries there. as it stands I believe your assistance would be nice considering we've got Rome on our side as well.
OK. Invade Colchis maybe by 169bc and if you invade Egypt, I'll need to have permission for my navy to pass through the Hellespont to invade Cyprus and Egyptian Judea. And maybe Egypt proper if possible. i really want an African colony. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 01:34, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Um i plan on taking Cyprus and most of Anatolia. I'll split the larger province closer to your territory with you because I don't think I'd be able to hold it anyway. As for your navy, you'd have the ability to pass through Byzantium considering you're acting as an ally. As for a colony that isn't a problem. However, Rome is getting Sinai I believe and I'm trying to connect to the Red Sea as well maybe we can split that. But Egypt proper I want to make into a rump state. We may have to get Carthage in this too but I'm making a division map right now. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:38, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
OK. So how about we split Cyprus 30-70? All I need from it is a few ports for transport and communication purposes. and having even a small part of Cyprus gives me the ability to invade Egyptian Judea. I also plan to raid Alexandria and, if you guys agree, keep it. :) iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 01:41, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Ha ha - some of this is kinda out there. The idea was to make Cyprus an independent kingdom, Take Alexandria back considering it is the main city established by Alexander the great .. a Macedonian. and few other provinces near my colony.#LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 01:49, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
For Cyprus, how about treaty ports or something, like the unequal treaties with China? I'm still taking Egyptian Judea and if not Alexandria, what other ports does Egypt have besides Cyrene, which I know you would take iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:04, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
There is literally no Egyptian Judea.. Judea is an independent nation that i trade with and wont be involved in the War. as for Cyprus they are going to be a vassal, Alexandria is also being taken by me cause of the cultural heritage my people would have there in Alexandria. I'm not taking as much as you think. but this actually has to happen first, and making demands the way you are isn't gonna get you to far especially when im leading the invasion... I'm not saying you don't get stuff but you're behind two other powers who are looking to screw Egypt over. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:08, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
If I'm being demanding, really sorry. On my old map games, I barely touched cooperation when it comes to invading and if you look at the map, why is there a portion above Independent Judea that's in color yellow. and yeah, I'm really sorry for being to demanding. really nervous about teamwork and i really just want to secure my share of Africa before a partition map is posted. And can Cyprus be a joint vassal, with you dominating, of course? iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:14, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
About Cyprus Possible, as for the part by the Seleucids. That's not Judea. It's a pretty insignificant area you could more than likely turn into a port. but I was thinking of giving it to Cyprus so they could support themselves a bit better. Also, don't worry Carthage may join in and he's being classified as after you so you could potentially get more than he could. As it stands, however, I'm looking to dominate this half of the Mediterranean with a pretty heavy fist. I mean look at what I did to Egypt - I cut them off from Anatolia pretty handily. Also, if you're going for Colchis, stop there .. because 1) Scythia is an ally, and 2) they are part of my sphere on influence. Also, I'm looking to disrupt any potential Egyptian kingdom from getting to me part of a grander strategy. As for the demands not a big deal. I've dealt with much worse. You're pretty tame, ha ha #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 02:22, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Tnx. I'm invading Colchis 1.) to expand my kingdom, you know resources. 2.) to get trade with Scythia since I need more trading partners. I'm aiming for naval Black Sea dominanc, anyway. I'll try to get the insignificant territory for communication and transport purposes, anyway. so BTW, what part of Africa have u and the other powers have planned to invade, anyway, so that I could make preparations and long-term strategy. iAmVictoriousVVWBTR (talk) 02:34, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Popping in here for a second...
- Scythia is not your ally. You've never asked for an RNG for it, and never even done a diplomacy for it.
I was just about to switch to the Byzantine Empire. Why is it that the nations I want are always taken? Yank 01:42, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
Yank has been trying to get it for sometime. Mod or not, what you did was kind of unfair to Yank.
04:12, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
I am gonna make a radiation map so people have an idea how hard their nation was hit. It is gonna be a map of nations in OTL. BTW, I think you used a map in the 21st century, not that it matters much. Daeseunglim (talk) 14:58, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
CoA of Brazil?
Mind if I ask a question about your recent upload (File:Coat of arms of brazil.png). Given that its colors differ from the standard file, I must ask whether this color scheme is necessary for your timeline. If no, than this would be a duplicate file, which is not allowed on this site. If yes, than I would like to know. Thank you. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 00:44, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry. I couldn't find anything on the CoA for Brazil so i just assumed it wasn't on the Wiki. I didn't realize it was a duplicate. You're free to remove it if you so wish. Sorry for any issues i may have caused. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 00:47, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
Work on the page a lot as well as a map, make a nation scores page, etc. Make it plausible. Make it presentable because right now it's not too hot. Work on it for a while. I'd say wait for some other games to die down before starting this at all. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 21:41, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
Use one of our original maps.
You were banned
YOU ARE BANNED
This was decided by both co-creators and head mods. You are now being reported to site administrators.
Industrial Revolution: Reborn
Now that I surrendered as Qin to Han, can I be Han dynasty?
WWIII:Ultimate War has begun!!!!!!!
No problem. I have deleted it for you. Thank you for bringing this up. Though if you don't mind me asking, what is it a duplicate of?
Could you declare Neutrality if I invade Ratc once Unified? FYI, when I say invade Ratc, I will make contact, then invade him for some reason... probably cause he is throwing the lives of his citizens away in pointless wars, and I want to save them. So declare Neutrality please. It isn't for a few years anyhow. Mafia (talk) 11:18, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! I'm new on this wikia and I'm learning so if I made any mistake please feel free to correct me. I'm currently building an Argentinian page, upgrading it with the events already depicted in the Rebuild Storyline. :)
Excuse me to bother you again, from what moment to what moment can I start to include my ideas into the game? (previously accorde with the forum of course).
Put your signature next to Argentina to show you're playing as them. And the game is going so you can post your turn right now if you'd like. Look over the rules a bit so you don't do anything too off the wall just follow the format the rest of us did for posting our turns --#LivinLikeFeudal (talk)
Industrial Revolution Map
Never Unified China
You do realise that Scotland and Ireland have barely any naval forces. Also, that entire union is implausible. Scotland would have been nastily nuked, losing Glasgow Edinburgh, etc. Why did you remove Northern England accepting? And how is a nation that has been unified longer than a 1000 years reunifying implausible? Mafia (talk) 16:49, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
Because it wasn't northern england accepting it was Scotland and at the time from the current nations it was implausible and doesn't fit in with the timeline. also you were nuked and may not be recognized as the legitimate successor to England by everyone. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk)
I asked Northern England... the Union is completely ASB. Scotland wouldn't ally with Ireland. The IRA was a major terrorist organisation at the time, basically resulting in all of Britain mistrusting Ireland. No way Scotland chooses to ally with Ireland over the actual nations it actually liked. Mafia (talk) 16:59, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
Rise of the South
If it says that there is an "intermediate revision" that means there is an edit between the one the current state and the one you want to undo that you need to undo before you can undo the desired edit. Lordganon (talk) 06:20, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
RE: Two Things
I'll fix the score thing. That's my bad. As for the colony, I guess it's fine if you have a settlement part of your Nigeria colony at the northernmost point. Just know that the Cameroon River Delta and the river all the way up to your settlement is my territory. Mscoree (talk) 10:32, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
Also, I made a wiki. I am planning on making stuff on it, timelines, etc, that are not even slightly plausible. Also, going to fuck with the future too http://lmbs.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity if you are interested Mafia (talk) 16:59, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
Post for me
Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.
Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.
Myanmar: Myanmar Afrika expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Oceania expands by 2100 sq km. Myanmar Guinea expands by 2000 sq km. Urbanization continues using the lumber in Northern Myanmar. Industrialization begins to speed up dramatically due to the rise of personal enterprises and the steam engine. More rifles are built. We continue expanding our navy. We become really rich from selling silk and scientists began researching an industrialised way of making silk. More cities are built in Northern Myanmmar. Most of Southern Myanmar is now cities.
Miracle at Marne
A Timeline for it by that name would have to be basically of the map game. You'd need to change the name for anything entirely separate.
Overall though, it really is not a good PoD. You're just declaring something - there's no reason for that change.
MaM - Austria and Hungary
Did I ever say I was trying to completely scoot a civil war? No. What I'm doing, is questioning how 300 people happened to die when a failed German revolution led to merely 20 deaths. It may be an ethnic conflict, but consider the circumstances. It's night, it's Vienna, and everyone's drunk. Can drunk Hungarians and Austrians tell the difference of each other in the same beer hall, at night, and good enough to start an ethnic conflict over two drunk ethnicities who may even not notice ethnic differences? Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 05:26, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Only one man was drunk. It never explicitly said he was by a bar when this happened. he could have been walking home from the beer hall and done it and some non drunk Hungarians pulled him off and more than likely killed him which if seen by the right being could just continue to escalate to the point of two opposing rioting factions fighting each other. The British empire all throughout during various periods had rioting constantly some of which did end up with a decent amount of people dieing. The same happens with evey nation from time to time. This riot just got out of hand an it required the military to prevent further escalation. if it got that big and required that to prevent it, then it couldve easily gone more so across the city if not the country (like it kind of will ina different sort of way) just cause the guy that caused it was drunk doesn't mean everyone was. #LivinLikeFeudal (talk) 05:38, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
The Egyptian Protests of 2012 to 2013 have led to a maximum of 60 deaths. The subsequent revolution that spread across the country, not just once city like Vienna, led to 628 reported deaths. The Austrian Civil War of 1934 led to a maximum of about 300-400 deaths. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 12:25, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
These are not protests. This is two sober ethnicities openly targeting each other in the streets of vienna. This is not being changed and can happen. Especially since Austrian troops did wipe out about 60,000 people in Galicia in 1914. Genocide and ethnic conflict is not beyond your nation. 300 is a reasonable number for two ethnic factions fighting directly and openly in the streets. If it required the military and not just police forces to put down then that just backs me up even more. These were not protests, and this was not a low scale civil war by a nation in the shell of its former self. This is the two largest ethnicities following an issue escalating and engaging in open conflict in the cities streets. This is final #LivinLikeFeudal (talk)
Hey Feudal I would like to nomintate you to become a constable (TSPTF). You have helped out everyone a lot and is keen of battling spam...... If you want to please leave a note for me on my talk page.[[Alternative History:Request for user rights|Link]]
PS. Colonial World has started. I have posted on Miracle at Marne and there is no reason for you to be mad at me.
Miracle industry map
jus a request could you start putting the yellow areas around bogota and the north east of colombia i have been expanding them for a decade and they remain green. thanksNkbeeching (talk) 10:33, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to a game on the wiki, Alternate Nations 2, where you make nations turn-by-turn, until you fill up the map. Then we will pick a new map. It is a great casual thing/time waster to do on the wiki. Thanks,
Here we go!
Here we go.
maps for my timeline
hey feudal, i have a question seeing how you have been able to do somw decent maps for your timeline if you could help me with my own for the disaster of 1805.
Whoever told you that wasn't telling you the truth.
Basically, I marked it that way because of two things. One, things turned out basically the same as otl, just with Vinland added. More so, however, is that your Vinland wouldn't work without being biased in its favor.
Is a Vinland possible? Yes, in theory. Yours? Not so much. You've basically pulled thousands of extra people, and resources, out of nowhere.
Don't worry about it, mind - an ASB tag doesn't mean it's a bad timeline, just that it's not plausible. There is a difference, which you seem to get.
More the population that was the problem in that regard than the resources.
You don't mind? Rare, that is.
Just be careful to keep control over things if you allow others in.
You'd be surprised just how many people think that it is something to get mad about, imo.
Yes, SV is ASB because of the magic. You're right about it being good, however.
Only way you'd get another tag is if you let magic, aliens, zombies or something more of that nature in.
Esteemed contributor to the Yellowstone TL, I object to the HRE on a number of counts of ASBness.
Please, consider my arguments made here. The entire idea of a united Russia in this TL at the time when it happens is ASB, and I hope you join me in striking it down as obsolete by signing the petition.
Thank You,08:12, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Well, they would it because they cannot keep focus on everything around. As for the union? The Venezualans would first of all exact revenge on them before anything else happened. Then perhaps there could be the possiblity of union finally happening. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:40, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
I like what you did with the Panama page and I wanted to say you did a good job. Can you do what you did to the Panama page to the Greece page, because I do not know how you cand make that box area with the flag, coat of arms, and map all in one with the counties information. ShadowKnights1234 9:23 am, 11/25/2013
Sign your posts.
The algo was already done. It was just that it would be two turns before you could declare victory.
You now has Argentina.
00:22, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
You have not yet picked a starting location for your nation in Human History Experiment. To do so, go to the Maps page, and follow the directions there. the game begins on December 7th. Wegscuba (talk) 01:51, December 4, 2013 (UTC)
You stated it was not vassalisation. You try to begin vassalisation and they are immidiately out of the league. So either you can let the status quo remain or risk losing them from your organisation. Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:57, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
Human History Experiment has begun. You have not yet picked your starting location for the game. If you do not do so in ten turns, your nation will be removed from the gameWegscuba (talk) 01:54, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
No, you got PARAGUAY. NOT Uruguay. As I believe I have stated several times in the past. You're at the point where you can no longer just influence nations, you must take direct action. Have a war. Hell, have two wars (Only joking).
22:12, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, my apologies. Other way around. You got Uruguay, not Paraguay.
22:37, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
Sci-Fi Empire Fact Sheet Info
I know I'm probably bothering you, but I'm working on something, and was quite interested in getting some info from you regarding what name of empire you create if you could. I've set up a little list for you that I'd like for you to fill out if you had the time.
- Empire name: <Official name and common name> <Separate names with "/">
- Founding year: <2180-2270>
- Capital (City, World):
- Nation symbol: <Example: A silver sword, blade upturned, against a golden sunburst on a red disc.>
- Total (Inhabited) Systems: <100-450>
- Estimated population: <100 billion-1 trillion>
- Current leader: <Title> <Name>
- Military name:
- Military size:
- Official language(s):
- Other language(s):
- Preferred empire color:
- How is the leader chosen?:
- How unified is the country?:
- How tolerant are the people?:
- What kind of economy is there?:
- How does the army work?:
- What's the literacy level?:
- What's the overall technology?: <Low-tech or high-tech>
- What do the people worship or invoke?: <Leave blank if none>
- What's the most admired class?:
- What's the lowest class?:
- How are women treated?:
- What is the attitude toward sex?:
- What's the most pressing social/political problem?:
Cuba in AvA
Hey. I understand it would probably be better that way then American style, but I'm bored, to be honest. Besides working with Japan and in Cambodia, I have nothing else to do at the moment. I'm just trying to gain a few allies in the surrounding region. Enclavehunter (talk) 06:45, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
the newalgo conversation
- really don't like leavinga person in charge of war resolving by choice
- but a mod would conrtrol this
- this is the first idea i will work it out this week and once i jhave the map game ready will post it there
- the first part would be trench warfare
- based on how many turns you built up your defences along a certain line you get a scale of 1 to 5 bonus, from there yo take into acount a number for troops morale, supplies, and allies fighting along ide you
- 8:05Local Mafia BossBut what about Blitzkrieg?
- 8:05Nkbeechingnumbers will count less on a singular battle algo due to it being trench warfare, however on a larger scale each battle will take its toll and if you cant reinforce the lines at a certain point you will be forced to withdraw
- that comes with the development of tanks
- once tank tech is developed the trench warfare algo will become obsolete and a new algo will take its place
- 8:06Local Mafia BossBut they had Tanks on the Somme
- 8:06Nkbeechingthis way we don't have small countries collapsing at once at the start of wars in the first world war if they are prepared until they cant fight anymore
- its just to try this out i know there are partiularities in history
- tanks will be allowed in 1916 and onwards once you have large production of tanks you will be able to cancel the trench bonus and the number and tanks bonus will prove an adcantage
- 8:08Monster Pumpkinalright
- I should go
- you like what you read mp?
- 8:09Monster Pumpkinabout what
- Mscoree has joined the chat.
- 8:09Nkbeechingmy idea for a new type of algo system forr my map game
- hey ms
- 8:09Monster Pumpkinoh
- so far
- can you help me with Germany's navy again
- if possible
- 8:09MscoreeMP it's interesting that you'd name a ship after a famous aircraft pilot
- usually ships are (if named after people) named after admirals or people involved in maritime stuff
- 8:10Nkbeechingits to try to balance things out and favor certain sides in different periodds of war fare
- 8:10Monster Pumpkinwell
- it is an aircraft carrier
- 8:10Nkbeechingterrain would also form a part of the algo
- 8:10Monster Pumpkinso I based it off of that
- 8:10MscoreeOkay that's true
- 8:10Monster Pumpkinand I don't think Zepplin was an admiral
- 8:10Nkbeechingcan you give me your opinion ms?
- 8:11Monster Pumpkinalright
- 8:11Mscoree@NK Sure on what
- 8:11Monster Pumpkinif you can help with the U-boats, that would be freat
- I'll take a look
- 8:11Monster Pumpkinbut if not, that is fine
- but I should go
- 8:11Nkbeechingalso up joining a maap game ill be starting in afteri go to canada
- 8:11Monster Pumpkinlater everyone
- 8:11Nkbeechingread up top
- see ya mp
- 8:12MscoreeAbout terrain in algorithms?
- 8:12Nkbeechinga bit further top
- 8:12Mscoreethe thing about tanks and trenches?
- Monster Pumpkin has left the chat.
- 8:13Nkbeechingi want to try to experiment with a new type of algo were industry and population have a greater importane on war effort or grand scale
- whle a sort of mini algo takes care of individua battles
- 8:13Mscoreewait, there were 1,250 U-boats in WW2 lol
- I hope MP doesn't want me to list them.
- 8:13Nkbeechingyes that the one
- 8:13MscoreeThat's an interesting idea
- 8:13Nkbeechingim still fleshing it out
- Daeseunglim has joined the chat.
- 8:14Nkbeechingwill have something ready for next week when i start the map gamr
- 8:14MscoreeWhat would the master algorithm determine if the mini one is for battles?
- 8:14DaeseunglimMs: sry bout confusing u!!!
- 8:14Nkbeechingchance and do the calculations
- 8:14Mscoreebut if you win the main algorithm what happens?
- 8:14DaeseunglimWith my pg in DD-1983
- 8:15Mscoree@Dae no problem, it's fine. When I first say it I thought you had renamed my page lol
- 8:15Nkbeechingwell for instance if the grand scale algo which would be based on populace morale, how much population you have and your industrial level
- it would determine how long you can fight out a wwar before collapsing
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- 8:16Mscoree@Nk what I mean is, it doesn't make sense to have a main algorithm that determines if you win the war, then have mini algorithms for battles. Someone could win the main algo then lose every battle
- 8:16Nkbeechingif you are able to win sufficient mini algos you may earn a victory before you are out of time
- 8:16MscoreeOh I see
- So the main algorithm just sets the clock
- something like that
- 8:16Mscoreeand you have to win enough mini ones before time runs out
- I like it
- 8:16MscoreeAlthough, wouldn't some circumstances speed up clock?
- 8:16Nkbeechingeach victory you get modifies your own war effort algo result
- 8:17MscoreeLike if the enemy starts occupying/destroying your industry I'd imagine time ticks a bit faster
- 8:17Nkbeechingwell if you lose parts of youee land that are heavily industrilaized
- you lose that from your score and a new time is set
- 8:18MscoreeSounds like a cool idea
- 8:18Nkbeechingalls if your population is dying a lot and you can't replace front line troops you lose score as well
- I know
- I hope it works
- morale of populace is also important component to grand strategy algo
- if your population is tired and unwilling to fight revolution
- or you are forced to sue for peace
- basicly its to balance things out
- and give some countries a fighting chance
- it also allows for allies to backstab one another and gain a major advantage early on in a war
- for instance if a neighbor overuns an unprepared fromtier they will push up to a certain point before a defensive line is set up
- 8:20MscoreeYeah that solves the problem of the Vietnam War in a map game. In any map game right now if the US made an algorithm against North Vietnam they would win by many points, but yet in OTL they lost the war.
- 8:20Nkbeechingbasicly same as otl
- also for instance austria invading serbia
- 8:20Local Mafia BossThat is pretty cool
- 8:21Nkbeechingbut like i said it would be complicated and i need to see how to incoperate it
- 8:21Local Mafia BossSo if, say, Britain invaded France, or visa versa, they would not hold it long?
- 8:21Nkbeechingwell it depends
- im only started on land warfare
- havent began naval and amphibious algos
- but yeah basicly
- 8:22Local Mafia BossAs in, you can't invade slowly bit by bit to remove the Recent wars section?
- Because the timer would run out
- 8:22Nkbeechingwell recent wars would affct populatin morale
- if they win it will be high if they lost or suffered large casualties it will be mild to low
- and if you have alarge advantage the war will end quickly
- if you don't have an advantage due to defensivve bonuses
- 8:23Local Mafia BossYou should have Guerrilla war
- And it lasting longer depending on factors
- 8:24Nkbeechingyou could either be drawn into a long bloody war or a defensive counter attack
- 8:24Local Mafia BossLike... Wars between the nations
- 8:24Nkbeechingi know i will work on that later
- 8:24Local Mafia BossSo if Britain annexed France, they would be unable to hold it very long
- 8:24Nkbeechingguerrilla will most likely be based on a simple equation
- 8:25Local Mafia BossAs guerrilla would be ongoing
- 8:25Nkbeechinghow many troops the occupiers have availblr in the region and a random number
- all of it no
- but a part for sure if they hold it down with enough troops
- but that would al
- add to war timer in a negative way if you're at war
- 8:26Local Mafia BossHang on
- 8:26Local Mafia BossI have an idea
- Say Britain annexes France
- And then tries to invade Germany
- 8:27Nkbeechingthey wwould become overstretched in that case
- and they would not be able to reinforce their lines
- 8:27Local Mafia BossThey should get a negative points thing for the timer because they are fighting from a region they do not properly control
- 8:27Nkbeechingif they fail to initially win then they will slowly be pushed back
- 8:27Local Mafia BossLike the Germans against the Russians
- 8:27Nkbeechingyes thats part of it
- but for instace if you occupy a region that is oppressed by the enemy then you will be supported by them instead of resisted
- at least as long as they support you
- 8:29Local Mafia BossYea
- 8:29Nkbeechingforinstance if the americans hold onto a liberated france that has been ravaged by germany they will initially be received as liberators
- 8:29Local Mafia BossBut when Germany is defeated
- France would expect the USA to withdraw
- 8:29Nkbeechingit could hhappen earlier
- if the americans treat french like crap the french could revolt
- 8:30Local Mafia BossWell, yeah
- 8:30Nkbeechingmaking it harder for the Americans to fight and giving Germans a chance to retake lost land
- like i said you can either have a swft victory or grueling slugfest
- and if you get involvved in costly war you wont be able to fight another war for a few years
- Survivor321 has joined the chat.
- 8:31Nkbeechingnot without collapsing
- hey survivor
- 8:32Nkbeechingso what does everyone think?
- Bfoxius has joined the chat.
- 8:32MscoreeHi Bfox
- 8:32Nkbeechingbf hey
- 8:32MscoreeI think it's a very good idea
- 8:32BfoxiusHello everyone
- Any updates on YS?
- 8:33Local Mafia BossI think it is a good idea
- 8:33Nkbeechingeach war period will have a different mini algo
- with the only thing remaining the same being manpower and terrain
- other aspects would become idfferent
On AvA, I would like to offer a friendship agreement between the US and Brazil. I know the problem with Mexico was a bad move on my part, but how would you feel about the end of hostilities between our nations
Do the terms of the Britain's surrender still apply to me as Australia? 900,000 dollars a year and a small army? That can cause some serious issues on my end. Australia wants to be free from the mistakes the British forced down on usTrust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 06:00, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
i know just joking around I'll provide mercenaries if you want. I need the cash. Anyway, I'll be turning the Netherlands into a neutral colonial trade nation if I can.
France has literally no connections with the Celtic Union. Germany is actually focusing on Germanic areas.
03:05, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
Oh, he's got England too does he? Well, that changes everything. I thought he only had Scotland and Ireland. Never mind all this if he has England.
03:13, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
Can I join your Axis vs Allies map game?
Section header sums it up. Thank you in advance. ~TrueCommie
Join as Iran Axis vs Allies map game
Map game details
Thank you, I will join as the people's republic of Iran then. Do all of the participants in the map game post at a certain time or just once a day and I someone else's name next to Iran (in the place that is under the map) do I just replace that, with my name?
Hello, I have no idea how I got here but I believe the player listed as playing Iran is not supposed to be there as it's been more than five years (in game) since he posted last, Fued, Guns,or Scraw can anwser this.What is this????Is this a signature??? (talk) 02:30, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
Road to war
ive created the page and on saturday im starting up the algo
Kudos are in order. Keep it up ^^
Atlantic islands and delimitation of claims.
I see that you are trying to colonize the Canary islands and that you are interested in Cabo Verde.of course, I, as Portugal, have interest in the Atlantic islands, so, how about a deal: you let me have the OTL Açores and Madeira and you can have Cabo Verde and the Canaries.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:27, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
I saw your second reply. The problem is while I am the head moderator, Scan locked me out of mapmaking, by using a format that is only compatible with a program that I don't have. Since your colony was supposed to be in the canaries all along, I can't do a mod event for this, since it would be acknowl i dedging a mistake as fact, and I can't edit, so you have to warn Scan about this mistake.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 13:49, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
i need advice
I double checked your algorithm and it is a victory by 6 points which leaves you with ~2.5% of morocco and no grounds for such a harsh treaty. That's what you'll get on the map. My apologies this was not picked up sooner by another mod. Scandinator (talk) 13:34, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
My apologies, I check everything when I'm doing the maps. Most of the time I don't have time to check everything out. I'm a full-time employed (2 part time jobs with a 3rd on the way) university student. The fact I can squeeze a map every few days is a miracle. Scandinator (talk) 18:22, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
Maximum help is appreciated. Every last drop of blood poured into this war will bear long-lasting fruit. After all, if we win while the enemy is merely a pup then they will not have the chance to develop into a fearsome beast. KunarianTALK 08:52, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
You are not a mod. Stop ordering other players around. The mods will handle it. -Nova 16:35, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
dealing with the egyptian problemEdit
we will eventually have to put the mumlak state in its place, i highly recommend once colonialism begins a war against them is waged over trade ,and colonial interests a joint effort will put them in there place. Nkbeeching(talk) 17:48, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
In PMIII it appears that you claim to have 9 million people living with your nation. In 1516 the Crown of Castile had an estimated 4.5 million inhabitants, so there is no possible way for you to have this large of a population, even with an agricultural surplus.
Road to War
I want to solve the problem too, I've put an offer on the page, which would really help if you would agree to. Especially as trade really doesn't make up the amount of your economy you might think, you make more money from people buying your goods and from traders (note: not your traders) landing in your ports to sell you goods. Now, who do you think has a lot of ships to land in your ports? ME! :D
Of course you earn no money directly off your traders, they are private individuals, maybe you have them organised into some sort of royal merchants, but they do not pay you anything but their loyalty. Anyone who claims that their merchants do that is ignorant of the world.
Venice's situation is different, Venice's fleet from day one has been both their last defence and their economic lifeline. It is fully state owned, although is much less like a true battle fleet. The state pays for the fleet to continue this and utilising also the extremely useful fact that Venice has some of the most advanced business laws in the world (probably 400 years ahead of our time), we make money. Due to our economic stability and our ability to allow enterprises to operate out of our lands. The state pays about 10% of our entire budget on the arsenal and the fleet, and that's just in peacetime!
Trade is the state and the state is trade, any attack on trade is an attack on the state. Or at least that is how it materialises.
So when I invaded Morocco and undermined you, by accident and mis-thought as it was, I was in many ways in the wrong. But it would in reality hurt nothing more than your pride if you didn't get land.
But the harm that would come to Venice if you continue to stop us from operating to the levels we do or attempt to unseat us would be immense. Can you see why I would react, with you super taxing Gibraltar and attempting to muscle out Venice from the Atlantic and claim all the gold and ivory for yourself?
I had to act, to defend my interests. As I have said, I do not want trade, or to steal your trade from you. Venice is the master of trade, the greatest trade empire and the greatest naval empire, no one can rival it because it started from that. Just like the way the Greeks have been a trade based people since before Christ OTL and now still have the largest trade fleet the world knows. Are they a super power? no. Are they traders and have the largest merchant navy the world knows? yes.
That is what I want to be. The trader, not the military superpower, not even the economic superpower. But the person who moves things from point A to point B and I am that.
When my ships landed in your ports with goods, it was not just me who benefited but you too! Castile cannot hope to muscle against everyone, certainly not if people make alliances and decide to use force.
Together you and me (including my trade allies) could master all the trade of the lands that the other Europeans aren't even aware exist yet.
I want the future of Castilian and Venetian co-operation. I want us to sail to all the new continents together, I want to carry your goods to lands wide and far. I don't want to steal away your money. I want to assist you in making more of it.
So refuse the offer I have made or accept it doing so would benefit both of us greatly believe it or not. Yes you wouldn't tax ships through Gibraltar but the Mediterranean would send flocks of ships to your ports to get Ivory and other goods. Not to mention I would help in the various trades going on in Africa.
If you refuse, we must talk. As I say, I only wish to be the trader, I still am now so let me continue being so. And Venetian trade will not undermine you, only make you stronger. Please reply. KunarianTALK 22:13, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you saw my diplomacy in 1446, but if you want we can wed my daughter to one of your sons. My oldest daughter, Anne, is twenty years old (born in 1427), so perhaps she'd be a good match for one of your sons. Let me know what you think. Mscoree (talk) 12:22, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
Each nation has one turn during which it may do one of the following actions.
- Work on the nation's military
- Work on the nation's economy
- Work on the nation's infrastructure
- Expand the nation
- Start or remain in a conflict.
PM3 SwankyJ mapsSwankyJ (talk) 00:25, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
- I would like to propose that "-1 for every personal union over 3 (or 2)" be added to the new algo. This, although has no bearing on the bonus as it's removed (thank you, that's a headache), would penalize those who have overexpanded their influence.
Sorry for it being such a late reply.
See two guys on the faculty list at your university. One would be somewhat relevant to that, the other not. Was it Reckner or Milam that you had? The former is an American naval expert, and the other a Vietnam War expert. Obviously, one means more than the other.
But, I have to think that they're exaggerating its importance a bit.
The capture of the Magdeburg had, quite frankly, very little impact.
Really, the net result would be less fighting between the two groups. That's about it.
Remember, the Brits even with the codes lumbered about trying to find the German fleet, ambushing parts of it, and having parts of their own ambushed in turn. About the only benefit, really, was having some idea when they put to sea. They'd have known at some point anyway, given their patrols, and just how many resources the Germans would need to have to go beyond a cruise in the North Sea.
With no codes, you just see more random events.
Your professor is right about the fleets themselves. The Germans doing anything like that to the Brits - or vice-versa - just would not happen. There's a reason why the two larger battles from otl were draws. And if one of the two sides was going to do any "picking apart" it would be more likely for the Brits to do it.
Germany would still have to put in unrestricted submarine warfare. Ships kind of stuck in port. It's not about it being "active" but it's existing at all that was the problem.
Zimmerman Telegram would still get sent anyway - its interception is the key, there. No doubt that the Germans did more than that one, to other powers. In a lot of ways, it makes strategic sense to do that. The US would have just been the most important.
Overall, the Germans had one real chance to win that war, right at the start, and they screwed it up - though that was because there was no way to have enough soldiers to do it, short of leaving Berlin entirely undefended and losing it to the Russians. Which is a loss, realistically.
Really doubt that they had any chance of winning.
I'm not exactly sure what you're doing with Castile and Aragon. I am aware that we are going to enter personal union, but can we avoid this whole purging the Renaissance nonsense?
04:39, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not a vassal. It's more equalish. Anyway, if things don't work out, we can just divide the throne by giving one son Castile and the other Aragon.
15:59, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
Yo Feud, what was the thing with the "with three sisters I can back up the whole vile methods thing" about? I was just looking at the old chat box I left open a few hours ago and have no idea what that statement was about. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:11, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
No problem. Three sisters huh? I come from a family that has 13 women in it, and only me, my brother, and our two little cousins are the only men in it (six if it count my two aunt's husbands). For the most part, it was just women for a long time. So I envy you and your three sisters. Could have been much worse. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 05:02, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
A favor to ask
Hey Feud, I saw the new map you put up today, and I noticed that Leinster (Eire's vassal, south of English-held Ireland) is a vassal of mine on the map. The previous map, made by Swanky, shows it fully integrated into Eire as I posted several turns ago. I have had it as a vassal for MUCH longer than 10 years, and it is culturally the exact same as my main nation, so there should be no troubles. Just a heads up to put that on the next map, as it's in the "Map Issues" section. Bow To Your Sensei. BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!!!
K, if you want a virus, I have three suggestions.
- The first contender, to kill no less than 60-70% of the population of Europe, would affect the lungs. After being spread (by a sneeze, cough, somesuch), the virus would reach the lungs and incubate there for several days, whereupon it would begin to build up small, pus filled buboes-like lumps. These would affect breathing, and would slowly kill off the alveoli, making it impossible for the person to properly exchange gases. The virus would soon spread, causing similar "lumps" throughout the rest of the body, causing high fever, and, as the lumps burst, would cause blood poisoning that would eventually overwhelm the kidneys. After around a week or two, the person would die, in approx 75-80% of cases. This disease could not be cured with the knowledge of that time, and, frankly, would be impossible to quarantine- none of these would be.
- The second, milder contrender, to kill approx 30% of the population of Europe, would actually arrive in the blood stream, where it would quickly attack and "hijack" blood cells, going to the brain. The result would be an extremely high fever, of at least 103-104 degrees, as well as extreme weakness and chills as the hijacked blood cells died. Death would occur after a month or two, in 20-30% of cases.
- The last, least- to kill no more than 10% of the population of Europe- of the diseases would affect the lungs, again, but this time would merely cause difficulty in breathing rather than the effects on the blood in the other two, The disease would severely affect the ability of the body to breathe, causing a small fever along with it- a more traditional flu. It would kill approx 5-10% of cases, but would spread fairly fast, making it, ironically, the hardest of these to quarantine.
Course, my knowledge of biological diseases is limited to two terms of High School study, so if you have a better source...
00:22, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
More people added turns to 1465...mainly italy's block and another one I believe ... don't remember which nation exactally but you can check the edit history for that. Just trying to help ... g greg e (talk) 19:31, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
Let the record show that the state that you had pointed out to me was not on the current map at the time and therefore I did not have an accurate assesment of the nation's size compared to Castile's.
I don't blame you for this, but I do blame the constant updating of the map by people who are not authorized to do so, and as such I will head the crackdown in that regard.
As long as you realize that the larger state will still take longer to vassalize than the previous one, then go ahead.
The small Christian Enclaves in Africa.... would it be plausible for Alexandria to invite them to come to Alexandria/become autonomous regions of Alexandria for defense and protection? g greg e (talk) 05:12, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifing how to add the Kingdom of Albion in my algo. Could you check the algo for other errors (ie...doing the math correct and other such things)...other than population which Kun and I are trying to figure out right now. Thank you for your contributions as a mod and friend once again. g greg e (talk) 18:33, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
Koryak Confederacy PMIII
Well, fair enough, it is a little ASB. Would it be possible for me to keep my trading port on Kodiak Island? Its a lot closer than some of the ports European nations are having in Africa, and its not ASB, given that native Siberians knew Alaska existed for thousands of years before its "discovery". I'll avoid expansion until a realistic time. It's a little irritating it took this long to hear this, because this turns my past thirty posts into nonsense, but I guess it happens when there are so few mods. Krasnoyarsk (talk) 22:08, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Fued the guaymians will change thier numbers, i was told our land covered most of current day panama from another source, but that is obviously not true. Sorry about the implausability im just a little new with the game.
Feud, you do know that the plague is something that can go away. The reason places such as Milan and Venice escaped the plague relatively untouched is because they took the exact same measures to counter the plague as Oyo did. Milan's government walled off the houses of the families suspected of having the plague, including the healty ones, preventing the spread of the disease. Venice quranatined entire ships to a separate island they controlled for more than a month before letting them dock in Venice. These two cities had the lowest death tolls from the plague as a result. Just because you and everyone else may be expecting 10% casualty rates, doesn't mean I should as well. I've already taken stringent measures to deal with the matter, as "primitive" as the mods may believe they are, and I plan to deal with this issue and come out with my population intact whether you like it or not. I'm coming out of this with a 0.5-1% death toll like a boss. B(
Also, I would suggest following some of the OTL examples of qurantine to protect your population, such as the great wall of fire around the Palais des Papes to protect the Pope from the plague, or the methods taken by Venice and Milan if you wish to maintain your edge without destroying a chunk of your manpower force. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:41, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
Now where with all that energy did you see me complain? All I stated was that I was going to do my best to deal with the plague plausibly and realistically, since such a way existed OTL. I even offered advice for Castille. Also, the only reason everyone else is taking the plague in stride is because everyone else is ignoring it or doing the exact same thing I'm doing in-game. Look at the Netherlands, their taking precautions the same way I did. The only reason I complain is because the mods either mention me directly and I step in to defend myself (since no one else will), they make their actions against me very visible, or I mention the subject like I just did, and the mods, like you just did, say I'm complaining when I'm. So here's some free advice; take the two step program like "a normal person", and chill out. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:37, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
- The posts have been growing, the most recent one is fifteen years old, the oldest is forty. I've mentioned their growth in several posts. They're no longer mere outpost in the middle of nowhere.
- Why do the otl explorations powers (essentially) get all the fun stuff. Everywhere, not just historically, competition has been a huge motivator. I've never posted my ships and stuff going ahead and beyond, and never will. But Hamburg will be right behind. Why do we stick so close to otl? At what point do we say, "otl is no longer binding us so strictly."
- When you last spoke to me on this subject (in the late '40s if I recall) you told me to wait about ten years. Now, going on 35 years later, I'm reaching a point which is completely plausible given the progression.
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Road_to_War_(Map_Game) has started.126.96.36.199 01:06, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I was just perusing the Spanish Confederation page for PM3 and I noticed 2 major flaws. The first is your national motto. Please see the Talk Page for the description of that problem.
The second problem is that your flag and crest have the seal of the Bourbon family but that took place in the Spanish War of Succession, and would not be in your flag. Trying to be helpful. Reximus | Talk to Me! 04:00, May 1, 2014 (UTC)
Indian League stopping Marwar-Mughal
I need you to kind of halt that decision of the League, you can read what I wrote on the Indian league page.
Now that I am no longer Gwalior so tell Bengal to never talk to me again. Seriously, he was so annoying.. He has a population of 10,000,000 and he used to make a fuss about me having 205,000.. .-.
Seriously, I found it extremely unfair as to how he forced me to switch my nation -.- .. BTW Who is the EOGuy? - HeiligReich
In my defense, I've never said anything about your population being any sort of problem. Does that even really make sense? "We don't like you because of your population". Your EXTREMELY implausible actions necessitated my action. You are a new player who crossed several countries to call a nation that we fought no less than 30 years ago a "brother" and wished to be subjugated by them, break apart the League, and make up things about Bengal being a "warmonger" and a "tyrant". In all reality, it's extremely odd that you did all those actions AND went out of your way to go against Bengal from the getgo. If anyone's annoying, it's a person who makes no attempt to understand the political climate of their game region before making implausbily odd decisions, and then complain about being treated badly. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 06:33, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
My post on 1486 or 87.. You complained about my population being 205,000 whilst your own during this recent war of yours was ten million. Implausible actions? All I did was visit the Mughals through Dhundar and use their port to trade with Oman and Iran. You talked about preserving sovereignty, rights etc of all Indian States. Then how dare you meddle with Gwalior's foreign affairs? Apparently trading with a nation means I want to become his vassal. You're the idiot. It is indeed the truth that every action I took was against the way you had envisioned India. I certainly could not be your vassal. None of the nations said a word when you invaded Ava.. And you complain about me being implausible? You invaded an entire country with whom you traded with/had peaceful relations for 30 years just because 10-15 merchants got held captive and you say my actions were implausible.. Wow. Damn, you even had problems with me being in a dynastic union with Dhundar.... OH I forgot to mention how you pissed your pants and requested China, Tibet and Vijaynagar to prepare for war because I visited Kabul.. That's the height of your stupidity. Even if I get vassalized by every single nation one by one except Bengal, I would still be more happy than I was in India - HeiligReich.
Please sir, calm down, I do not understand why you have said "you're the idiot", like you're trying to imply I have called you same. That wasn't me complaining about your population, it was most likely a mod, so please check page history so you actually know who it actually says what. You visited the Mughals and called them "Brothers", you literally picked the Indian Leagues biggest enemy and called them "brothers", and allied with them. If you wanted to use a port, like I said on the Indian League page several times specifically to you, the Free Travel of Merchants allows you to use any Indian nations port without having to pay taxes, tariffs, or anything, yet you went directly for the Mughals and said "we prefer to be under them than Bengal", yet Bengal, and any other Indian state, save yourself, had made absolutely no outright attempt to vassalize you or any other Indian state. I preserve the sovereign rights of the Indian states, specificially the one you were invading. When you try to invade an Indian state, I will side with the non-belligerant one and preserve the rights you are taking away by telling you "No". Not by vassalizing you, not by annexing you, but by telling you "No". That kind of action, pointed out to my thankfully by Sky, made me watch every single action you made due to your already history of trying to annex/vassalize League states. But you couldn't handle that, you had to jump into a rant which basically said "Bengal won't let me kill small nations it swore to protect. This is an outrage and I refuse to be in a League with someone who stops me from breaking very ideals upon which the League was founded.". Friendly relations with Ava? I've traded with them yes, but have never made an alliance or anything like that. I've been sending in merchants for years who had more of a goal of converting than trading, and I have been for years trying to upstart an Islamic uprising in Ava. Yes I've traded with them, but I in no way have as friendly to them as I was to Kamarumpa before they asked me to vassalize them. Also, if you will notice, I simply surround their cities demanding the traders back. All they had to do was give the traders back and my armies would have left with the original goal completed, except, they didn't do that. They raised an army to challenge mine and never gave back my, and probably other Indian nations traders (Since they could travel freely through Bengal and into Ava), so I fought the armies they raised, since they made the situation extemely more complex than it should have been, like some other nations have done recently as well. I NEVER said anything about your dynastic union with Dhundar, I literally NEVER mentioned Dhundar. Again, please check page history about who said what before you go on falsely accusing me of actions I have never taken. China, Tibet and Vijaynagar have always been my allies, and it's not called preparing for war, it's called looking like the biggest guy with the biggest allies so the smaller guy will listen to you without having to go to war. Would you have allied with the Mughals and wished to incite rebellion in the League if you knew that Bengal had four times the allies willing to fight than you? Of course not, the idea was to look stronger so you didn't go all willy-nilly in how you conducted yourself in the League. You literally don't read a single thing I've put do you? You just like to run around and claim Bengal as a warmonger who wants to annex and vassalize India, yet they are literally the only nation you've dealt with that HASNT attempted anything like that, and Gwalior is now the only Indian nation that has made any attempt to vassalize and annex other Indian states, not Bengal. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 12:34, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
First of all, when I had joined I was unaware of the Indian League and Treaty of Delhi. That is why I had invaded Mewar because I did not know
Second of all, my alliance with the Mughals should've had created no problems. If you look back at history, you would realize that a single war doesn't mean you're enemies forever. I might have been the 'rebel' of the League but I needed a way to counter Bengals influence who were quite famous in Jaunpur, Vijaynagar etc.
Third of all, no it was not a mod because that guy actually used caps and bold to get the mods attention
Fourth of all, Did you not vassalize Andaman, Orissa, Ahom and Koch? Did you not annex Garjat? Peacefully or not, you can't just say 'I never vassalized any Indian state'
Fifth of all, I like how Alexandria literally controls the East Mediterranean, Red and Arabian Sea. I wonder how much a nation would suffer if Alexandria imposes trade sanctions on them
Sixth of all, let's stop arguing
First of all, if you look back at history, you would realize that people rarely forgive one genocide in 100 years, let alone two of them.
Second, then it was probably Greg, who is the best non-mod player right now.
Third, for the final time, Ahom and Koch were not Indian, and Andaman was uninhabited. If anything, I've increased the amount Indian states. Garjat fell into Bengal because one of my Sultans was the heir to the throne, can't avoid it because of a lack of other heirs. Orissa fell into dynastic union because of intermarriage and good relations. Let me correct myself: "I've never annexed or vassalized an Indian state through war or for my own benefit as you like to claim"
Fifth, did you seriously just try to threaten me with another players nation? Go ahead and tell the Christian nation to do your bidding, see where that gets you.
Sixth of all, now, we are done. Eiplec - ಠ_ಠ (talk) 15:47, May 2, 2014 (UTC) Nawh, it was under Greg since he leaves his name at the end BTW I did not threaten you with Alexandria. I just said I like how he controls the Red, Arabian and East Mediterraean Sea. That is all. .-.
Is it possible that I could just purchase the remaining islands that were accidentally added? When I said those regions I was sort of including the remaining islands, but maybe I wasn't very clear, since I didn't know any of the official names. Mscoree (talk) 01:08, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Would the Zapotec have the faintest idea who Bengal or Alexandria are? Considering neither would reach the Zapotec for many a year to come?
23:35, May 9, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, so, for my post this turn, I need to know what nations are revolting. The mod event said 6 nations but only specified Aceh (and there are actually 8 nations that Ayutthaya has taken in Sumatra, counting Sunda), and then after last night's, umm, discussion, I'm not sure what's happening anymore. Can you give me a list so I can make the algo and post?
Thanks,13:36, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
All of it.If not, as much as possible.I also want to avoid conflict.And about my colonization plans, they are: Brazil and maybe some small surrounding areas.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:24, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
im pretty much going for a greater israel, possibly a multi-faith state of the levant if that s possible though doubtful, i want to create a balance in the middle east.With Blood and Iron (talk) 02:24, June 3, 2014 (UTC)
Uesugi Clan PMIII
Feud, can you take a look at the turns for the Uesugi Clan? For the last few turns, they've just been taking parts of Japan without using the percentage algo. They've posted their claims in the map changes section on the talk page so you can see how ridiculous it is, bearing in mind they've only been active 5 turns.
- Feud ms crapped a lot of things about the algo and underscored me in some points next time please don't allow ms to do the algo changes, hadn't I already signed the peace treaty I would ask more guys in the war to equalize the war lol Sine dei gloriem "Ex Initio Terrae" (talk) 07:30, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
What is the currency and status of the currency of Spain? I would like to move towards that currency, as we are growing closer in relations at all times and this is a key step towards normalizing relations? I have also discovered a possible sockpuppet, so I'll be sure to keep you up to date on that. I am banned from chat for now, so go to MGW if you need to actually chat. Thanks, Reximus | Talk to Me! 08:01, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Feud. So, I will be travelling for a couple of days and unable to post in PM3. Was hoping you could add my post to the end of your posts.
I'd need you to do this for June 16, 17, and 18. I'll be able to post after that, but only for a brief bit and then I am off again and will ask you to post for me again. Here is my basic post:
- In the Empire of Madagasikara, economic development continues as spices are grown commercially more and more, as with other crops. Latinized Malagasy and Christianity continue to spread throughout all the lands owned by Madagasikara. The presence of many troops in Kilwa calms any potential threats to national security. Ignacio also continues to focus on the full integration of all of his states as fully Madagasikaran lands. In addition to using Spanish merchants to transport the goods, a rising field is becoming a merchant. Madagasikaran merchants begin to use the Philadelphi Canal to trade with other nations in the Eastern Mediterranean. The ship-building industry continues to thrive in the city of Mahajanga. Namibia, expands along the coast by the maximum amount. Military turn (navy improved).
- Mozambika sees Madagasikaran culture pour into former Mozambikan lands from former Pembaran lands. Sofala continues to develop closer to Madagasikaran culture. Ignacio and his cadre of advisers work tirelessly to ensure that Sofala will never leave Madagasikara again.
I really need you to watch out for mod events. Any war or revolutionary movement should be deemed impossible as I have over 35k fighing men vs 25k fighting men, and mine are better equipped. Please make sure that you bring that up if the need arises.
The only thing you need to change is Military turn (navy improved) to Economic turn and then back to Military turn (navy improved).
I had a question I wanted to ask y poo u earlier, but I had to teach some 10 year olds how to tie a square knot (don't ask, boy scout summer camp).
Are we allowed to start working on the pages for the TL?
And if not, since North America turned out different, we could work on that?
Actually, I can. My first colony (Lenhame) was founded in 1420, so, since over 100 years have already passed since its foundation, I can expand 100px a turn (i thought it was 80.will fix it after 1540.), and split it between my colonies.I wouldn't be doing this if I couldn't.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:25, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
that land was not what i was originally talking abotu in central oyo, ill trade you what i got for Benin which would serve my purposes better to create a client state in cameroon and eastern nigeria. what do you say? With Blood and Iron (talk) 18:24, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
Please Read - PM3 Absence
Hey Feud. Just wanted to make sure you are reading this message because its not 3 days this time. Its 2 weeks. Pretty important that you post for me.
Now, for such an extended absence, I'd also like you to advocate for me on map issues. When you make your map for 1545, would you mind having all of my lands in place, including my colony. (If nobody has said anything, just consider it to be nobody objecting).
Continuing on the maps topic, here are a few maps that show what the map should look like for me. The only thing wrong with the map to the right is that Maputo is owned by me, and is part of Sofala. So, the whole coast is mine.
For Namibia, it is growing at 100 px per 5 years. The map to the right is for 1540.
Ok, now on to posting for me. So, I will give you my "base post". Also, IDK how the issue with al-Sumal (Mogadishu) was resolved, but now since you are in the Madagasikara League, it will be war if he tries to vassalize it.
Just note that you will have to change the end of each post (the part in bold) from either Military (and naval) turn to Economy turn, and vice versa on alternating years.
- Madagasikara continues to develop its unique culture, which is an ever-changing mixture of Spanish, Malagasy, and Bantu cultures. The unique make-up of the culture emphasizes hard-work, and as such a number of farmers are starting to make great amounts of money as a result of their labors. Ignacio continues to focus on the full integration of all of his states as fully Madagasikaran lands, including al-Swahili and the newest member of the Madagasikaran League, al-Sumal. All of the firstborn sons of traders, powerful farmers and nobles of the coastal nations continue to study at the University of Mahajanga for at leas two years. The spice trade continues to fuel the economy of Madagasikara, and trade blossoms greatly. The work in shipyards to construct the most modern navy possible continues with great success. Madagasikara continues to influence the government in Mogadishu, both culturally, economically and politically. Shipbuilding along the west coast of Madagasikara continues to pick up as a vital industry, but intra-national competition from Coastal Madagasikaran states begins to also rise. The Emperor continues to fund Christian Arab migration to the region, focusing on Alexandria, Banu Sulaym, Morocco, Tunisia, Georgia, and Rome. Namibia expands along the coast by the maximum amount. Economy turn.
- Mozambika sees Madagasikaran culture pour into former Mozambikan lands from former Pembaran lands.
- Sofala continues to develop closer to Madagasikaran culture. Sofala is quickly evolving into a powerful trading center, with access to both the north and also to the south. Ignacio and his cadre of advisers work tirelessly to ensure that Sofala will never leave Madagasikara again, especially now that Maputo was added back to Sofala.
- Kilwa, under some military control, experiences massive conversions to Christianity as missionaries pour into the city. Introduction of Latinized Malagasy continues, although a more Swahili dialect is implemented to ease the transition.
Please just keep up with any mod events and Eastern or Southern Africa-related events and just post this and all should be great. Additionally, if you would like to throw in any cultural stuff, I'd be more than happy to have them. Thank you very much. Reximus | Talk to Me! 07:01, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
Couple last things:
- Just post for me until I either contact you on chat or leave you a message on your talk page. Thanks.
- In RDE, I have just went ahead and removed my name from the signups. 2 weeks is just too long for an absence, and China is a major power and its unfair for me to prevent someone else from having the experience.
- Just a thought, SAR 2 may be a nice revival once RDE gets old (hopefully it outlasts the latest AvA and I can rejoin when I get back)
PM3 Algo question-Development
When doing algos, are the economic bonuses added before or after the division?
Like, should it be if both nations have 20 eco, yet one has larger trade, should it be this:
- OR 25/20=1
i saw this...
on the italian pm3 page, i saw under the relations that castile was an ally of ita;y, yet, you took it over. whats up with that? -saturn
ok, all i need now is a good nation for when im full time again. any sugestions?
what i meant to say was, when im full time again, could i play as genoa?
Hey Feud, I was just wondering whether there was a difference between the Atropatanae and the Atropene? On the nations list, Atropatene is listed twice, once under Hellenic Nations and again under Arabian. Also there's Atropatanae. I'm a bit confused - are these the same? Thanks Ozymandias2 (talk) 23:55, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
I thought you were talking about he fact that the supposed Mapuches had expanded into territory that i was expanding into in the coast.then in 1535, Mscoree decided to add their expansion in detriment of mine.I told him that he was supposed to replace the pixels i had lost and how I am expanding every map.the map was alright in 1540, but, all you said doesn't explain why when you made the map for 1545, my colonies weren't expanded at all.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:08, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
You cannot not know my expansion rates.you asked me just some days ago how i was being able to expand 4000 px a turn, and i told you how and also told you that i would expands 100 px every year(implicitly).--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:31, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
Civilizations: The Dawn Resumption
So, if you may have heard, Civilizations: The Dawn, the map game over at mapgame.wikia, will be resuming tonight, July 3, and it'd be great if you will come back and resume playing. Thanks!
I had a quick question about one of the recent moderator events. I'm not sure I really understand the reasoning behind Brandenburg revolting. Brandenburg was part of the Bohemian Crown in OTL and never revolted, but was rather gifted away. I even removed it from personal union, lowering my overall power and making the state seemingly more easy to manage. I thought we had an agreement that if I annexed several of my vassals I wouldn't be targeted with moderator events while I was away. I also thought that you said vassals would be more likely to rebel if they are constantly used in algorithms, but Brandenburg and Pomerania I have hardly (if ever) used in a war. I see now however that the event was made the very day I departed. I spent decades building up relations in the area, creating royal marriages with local lords and researching some of the politics in the area, and I now wonder what the point of all that is if they will be removed randomly. I gave rule in those areas to local lords married into the Habsburgs (I believe I called it the Brandenburgian Line), and I have no idea why someone would rebel against their family in an effort to actually lose influence/power/land. They are rebelling against the people who gave them 100% of their land and they appear to not gain anything from the action. I understand that in history people would fight with members of their family to gain power or land, but here there is neither. For that reason I ask that this event be changed, and I look forward to reading what you have to say on the matter. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 17:19, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
Also something to note, at the time I had seven vassals (including Brandenburg and Pomerania). Compare this to France who posts for nineteen nations besides itself. Mscoree (talk) 22:14, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
I'm going on vacation from the 11th to the 20th. Would you mind copy-pasting my posts for me? The only thing that needs to be changed post to post is expansion - one turn, Zapoteca expands 100px along the Gulf Coast, the next turn, Itzapam expands 50px along the Pacific Coast. Thanks! Cour *talk* 22:06, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
Land In PM3
Hey Can I Get Some Land In The Aragon Lands I Would Be Glad If You Say Yes i Will be Allies With You
They are there as part of The Treaty of Chan Chan as Sine is the help with my naval devlopment.They where going the be there anyway but if you don't approve I'll remove them.15:01, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hispania Port Act
It does not have to be a major power just a small country that has good enough trade.
Oh, I don't see your name on the mod list but will always have cores ther because navarra to for narvarra I forgot to add the formations of andorra but I did it like this Andorra - Navarra - Aragon - Aragonese Empire.
I left the script somewhere. I don't know where.
1.Ok will will Ask
3 I Don't Care
1 Not Realistic.... It's alternative History
2 I Really Don't Care If You're a Major Power
Sorry the soldiers in Italy part was another example of the wording being strange and me not being entirely sure what you meant. As for the alliance, I asked you like five times in chat, and I thought you said yes. Anyway, a NAP is fine. Mscoree (talk) 13:54, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
Recently in PMIII I've purchased the Gdansk region from the nation of Prussia so Yankovic can have a reason to leave the HRE bye being separated from it. Because of this I'm going to join in on colonization and I was wondering if I can colonize OTL Puerto Rico if you have no problem with that.
== Real Noise
Recent Diplomacy and Map Question
I know it can get lost in the wall of text, so I just wanted to let you know I offered to buy back Kluftland (the territory from the Oyo war), and also offered you a potential military alliance in my latest turn (1579). Let me know what you think.
Expect the new map to be up later tonight, probably a few hours after the new turn. A quick question regarding the map, is Sine supposed to own Gibraltar, or is that an error? Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 17:28, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
Treaty of Paris
I didn't change the map, I just removed the duplicate ones, as there were several on there. The one that was on there was from weeks ago when the treaty was made, and since no one said otherwise I thought it was official. Also that one closely follows what it says in the treaty itself, whereas the other one has been said to be wrong, even by some of the belligerents.
I didn't take back Venice. As our treaty says that whole are is jointly owned/occupied. For that reason I thought it would make the most sense to have the area colored one color, as long as we understand the agreement. Else we should color the whole region, because that one pixel is just one pixel out of many.
Can my map be put back? As far as I can tell it is the only one that actually follows the treaty. The one that is currently up there actually conflicts with things in the treaty, and is incorrect according to the very people who wrote certain parts. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 20:43, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
Feud I wouldn't do that. I never did during our union. This isn't some sort of trick to steal Italy from you. I will follow the treaty we agreed to, that I promise. As for the map, we all agreed to and signed one thing, and then a map gets posted with something completely different. It's as if a decade after Versailles, the allies added more concession of land from Germany, even though the war was over. Stuff not even mentioned on the page at all (not in the demands, proposals, or terms) was put on the map. I am just trying to get it corrected as it says on the treaty. Mscoree (talk) 21:31, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not trying to take any of the Philippines, I was just trying to trade with certain tribes there (or yourself if interested). I was doing that for a while actually, and it was kind of outdated anyway. Harvenard2 (talk) 20:51, August 1, 2014 (UTC)
Here is that map with the offered enclave of Dawei.
Draw up the treaty and I'll sign it.
Sorry, I've been really inactive and that's not going to change until 1600 at the latest. I'll still post, tho.
Sukhothai was given to Ayutthaya. Pegu was always Chinese. Speaking of which, I'd like Sukhothai back.
01:02, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
I also want preferential trade with you and your colonies.
Ain't none of that Indian iron go be washing up on Spanish shores. Pure Chinese, that's the best, mhm... *snap snap snap*.
01:22, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Well, naturally. I expected no less.
12:35, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
PMIII Pskov Algos
I see that there are now two algos for the war with Pskov in PMIII, which one is the official one?
Royal Marriage Proposal
Hi, I'm contacting all the major nations in Europe in PM3 to tell you about some royal marriage proposals available this turn, for three different royal families. On my turn there are currently fifteen people who are looking for a spouse, simply reply to my turn as soon as you can to reserve a person. I will be looking over the proposals to try to avoid incest (although a little incest never killed nobody haha), and if you'd like to see family relations yourself, feel free to check out this page, where the family tree is located. If you would like further information or my recommendations for a particular person, message me back with your available children and their ages and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 15:44, August 11, 2014 (UTC)
As requested by Sine I made a map showing which areas I have colonized. The reason I am messaging you is because I wanted you to take a look at that map and see if anything I have colonized so far interferes with anything you want. I only colonized most of that because I wanted to trade it in for the smaller, less valuable original land I had, which had sentimental value to me. Anything that interferes with your claims I can just sell to you eventually. Also I am willing to buy back that land from the Oyo war, so please let me know when you're ready to sell. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 23:09, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
Okay thanks. Is there a limit to how much south I should go? Do you want Gabon in particular? I really don't want a conflict here so honestly just tell me. Else if it's alright I might expand south to meet you, at a point you can decide. Mscoree (talk) 23:46, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
I'm working on the map now and should have it up by tomorrow. Since Sine isn't answering me, I want to ask your opinion on something. Should I add the changes from the Treaty of Paris, or from Sine's map? Sine gave himself land that wasn't in the treaty at all, not in the discussion, the proposals, the terms, etc, and some even contradict what was written in the treaty. Should I add it anyway? I mean I get that he won and can take whatever he wants, but it feels kind of cheap to write out what you want and then twenty years later say "Oh yeah uh we meant to take more". Not to mention his new acquisitions make no sense whatsoever, as he has proceeded to make a series of Northwest Angles, but all along the Rhine River. Anyway, I will keep working. Besides that it should be good. Mscoree (talk) 03:38, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
Also, don't be alarmed if your colonies look a lot bigger. In modern day Uruguay alone there's about 900 pixels in the water that I will use to expand that colony for example. Oh and another thing I was just reminded of, I don't know if you saw on the moderator page, but I was in the middle of writing an event to collapse my colonies along rivers more inland. To be honest I kept expanding and didn't realize I had already taken the whole coast, so when the time came to actually add it, I had to add it somewhere other than the coast haha. I will put it on this map for now, but in a few years time it will be gone. Mscoree (talk) 04:12, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
Out of Town
Hey, sorry if this is an annoyance, but we spoke several weeks ago on the possibility of an Iroquois-Hispanic deal of some sort, and I have been asking over the past few turns to open diplomacy with you and Andy. If you are not interested anymore, that's fine, but it'd be great if you could alert me on what you think.
Hmm, I didn't see anywhere that you claimed it...
How about we do a land deal and divide accordingly seeming ive already colonised some of the land.
Italy (PMIII Map Game)
Well, look like Empire of Hispania has sub-divion into two main nations, Spain and Italy. Italy is current personal union under Hispania and that people they lived in Italy are Italians. Now if you look the Italian Language on Wikipedia, it would really the same Spanish too, but is Random language. Italian people are tied after 77 years of Spanish rule and Italy must leave Hispania. I cant play PMIII Map Game and I want to pick an better new nation, Italy I picked. It would this creating own royal house and its own king rule an independent Italy here and eric4e play this nation. Now if you look this map right here, is a map of Italy in 1600, showing Italy in dark violet, Hispania in dark yellow, France in bark blue and Lombardy in light green. I picked the OTL Italian Flag for independent Italy, if you look right here.
So please, Italy will end the union, and then bring Italy as an independent state thanks.
Hey, I noticed that the other day you annexed my former colony of Kluftland. I thought you said you would sell it to me soon after, or was that just a lie to give me a false sense of hope? If you are still open to selling it I will definitely buy it. What do you say? Mscoree (talk) 21:03, August 25, 2014 (UTC)
The 1848 Game
Look, I'm getting tired of this game already. Sincerely, I'm getting tired of this wiki. If you want perfect plausibility, read History. I though alternate history was supposed to be alternate. So, I'm stopping to go to the game, probably. Just take the country, whatever... Do what you want. Oh, and something. Spain could never destroy my country in a year or in an hundrend years. If you want to be realistic in History, study the people, not the calculations. MMauritti (talk) 22:31, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
OK sorry I admit I'm a bit mean right now it's just... When I arrived at this wiki, I was excited... There was an endless list of scenarios in which History could have unfolded quite easily. In the past, my country was great. We were an empire. We brought new worlds to the world. Now we are a s***hole basically governed by the Germans and I was just trying to see if it had a chance in here. You know what I saw? Loads of American and British guys that just wanted to see their countries dominate the world. You can't stand other guys trying to spoil your fun. I had good ideas. You can't say I hadn't. I gave my best. Did I overstreched? Yes I did. But look at ALL timelines in this damn wiki. There is always something that was too much. I just tried to give us, the ones who don't live in a superpower, a chance. I guess it doesn't work. I don't expect you to understand. PS - If you ever get to be a world leader, take my advice - never invade the Portuguese. We may seem weak and coward but if you mess with us you won't know what hit you. Really. Ask Spain. The most they did to govern us since our indepedence in 1143 was from 1580-1640. I don't know what they teach you in Texas, but those were bad times to be a Spaniard in Portugal. As soon as possible, we showed them what we were. That's all I have to say. You call us a minor power I say come here and let's settle this like man. Believe me, even the Romans had to use our treason to conquer us. Just saying.
Anyway that was a bit over-nationalist. I'm just saying that I was trying something different. A spicing on the thousands of pages in this wiki. I guess you didn't like it. And another thing, don't call yourself an althistory veteran. It sounds a bit... overdramatic. Just a comment, never mind. Hope you have fun! :) - MMauritti (talk) 22:47, August 26, 2014 (UTC) - Ok, that sounded mean. It wasn't supposed to.
Feud i would like to have your opinion regarding the invasion of the Tunisia from the Ottoman empire as Spain, recently due to certain differences of view of something regarding the Ottoman structure we've come to fairly different results I would like to get your review on which algo when possible. Thanks in advance. Sine dei gloriem "Ex Initio Terrae" (talk) 15:21, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
Governor of Malta
My ruler has a bunch of kids who I am trying to place into positions across Europe, and noticing some of the OTL choices one of my ruler's kids ended up in Malta. I was wondering if Wenceslaus von Habsburg could be made governor of Malta. The islands would still remain a vassal and part of whatever structure you have them. I just mean he could be the regional guy in charge, answering to your ruler. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 12:50, September 2, 2014 (UTC)
"Becoming" has only ONE M.
Hold on, as I said I'm not taking as much as I could. I won 7000 pixels but am only taking 1000 or so. The only thing I added to the Americas was him releasing a native tribe and consolidating rule over a colony, which if anything would make him less likely to collapse. Mscoree (talk) 12:09, September 13, 2014 (UTC)
Inca as of 1635
You added back the expansion in South America, but you deleted everything else from the map (Europe, North America, Asia, etc) haha. Later today I will upload the actual map with both, and will just copy your new edits to it. Sorry about that, Mscoree (talk) 14:10, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
I banned Kingtrevor for a day from the MGW. just an FYI
PMIII Bavaria, 1640 Map
Here's a map a drew up for my 5% gains in the Hamburg war. The previous map was for 7%, so I got rid of Madgeburg for the new map and added some pixels in the north to make up for said Madgeburg loss.
Croatia has 100k troops total, Western Hungary has 20/20 development will the czardom itself has 18/18 due to the war being recent. That's all the info you'll need from me. SkyGreen24(Party,quotes) 16:50, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
available to jump on chat real quick?
OK, I started up the second invasion
I need your support. As requested I'll cover a majority of the expenses but I need help in ending this civil war.
Sorry it's been a while, this is the first time I've been able to get on the wiki in a few days. My computer is officially out of commission, maybe permanently. I'm on a back-up right now, but it's running Windows XP and it's drastically impractical. I don't know when I'll be able to post regularly again, but until I can, I officially give you control of my nation (which you did have de facto control, but this is now de jure as well). Sorry, will try to be back soon! Cour *talk* 01:14, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
Greetings Hispania from the new King of the Cherokee
Hi Fuedal, nice to speak to you again.
I've joined PM3 as the Cherokee nation so I figure we better establish relations with each other. Basically I don't want the land your nation currently holds near mine, and in fact I want your colony to grow further in land to maybe the size of North Carolina, and some. Dividing the interior of the USA south is basically the purpose of my nation and I aim to have it destroyed in about 100 years, and the area divided between you, Rome and France.
WHat say you?
I probably should give up changing this article anyway because someone keeps undoing ALL my changes.
Gonna have to take a full Wiki Break until December 8th. Gonna have to Quit Marne. Sorry
PS:Don't let my nation get taken pls
So, you know that newbie, Pitt? Well, I met him on chat. I distrust newbies after the whole thing with Omni. But when I mentioned that I was from Michigan, he began making Detroit jokes. Among them:
Detroiter: I am going to rape you cause the lions lost.
Industrialization MapSorry for the delay. Here is a draft of the map. If there are problems on it, feel free to edit accordingly.
I'm away until after Christmas. I will ask sky to keep posting ntil I return. Probably not until the 27/28FOR THE GLORY OF THE PARTY! 03:28, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. Gave Tr0llis an official warning. Try not to provoke him/debate with him. If he starts in on you, feel free to contact me ASAP. Thanks again,
PM3 Map issues
Hey can you update the map to show my Cherokee Nation to how it is supposed to look? I have posted this on the talk page on the [map issues section] several times and the map is yet to be updated to show the correct positioning of my nation. It is important to do this because soon they will go to Hamburg's player and I don't want him to lose out. I thank you for sorting this out for me. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 03:09, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
I really am sorry. I've been gone for a while, and this was the first thing that greeted me when I got back. They already wrote my old nation into the algo, so I figured it would be better to try to rebuild quickly instead of being blasted to oblivion. These gang-ups happen quite frequently in-game. I remember last game, most of the world went to war with Brandenburg, and then again at the end of the game against Neu Berlin and my Mayans. They are unfortunately just a part of the game. If I were you, I would try to negotiate to move your nation to an intact New World colony, maybe California or South America. That way, you still retain a large portion of territory and still have the potential to expand. And truthfully, this would give you more territory than most European nations. I think it would be a shame if you left the game completely, but I can't make you stay. Just consider it. Cour *talk* 16:22, January 4, 2015 (UTC)
Many including myself would be upset to see you leave PM3 or the wiki for that matter. I know you own 65% of the known world but keeping New Spain and the Castillian-Regent of Spain is not really all the bad. You can take back Granada, claim the Gibraltar and get back into the PM3 politics. Think how easy it will be to take lands previously owned by Spain when they are revolting from their new leaders, and then the mighty Spanish military steps in and retakes the lands and the people rejoy promising to never again allow themselves to be ruled by anyone but the Spanish crown. - SwankyJ The Itallian Stallion _ 09:39, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
Hi Feud! So, because i have over 3,000 edits and really a good player, i want to pick France and play it in Quietly into the Night Map Game.
Just a note that Novum Saeculum is starting soon.
AvA South America
Hey, I am Argentina in AvA, and I see you are Brazil. Would you want to work together to become a superpower and form a military alliance similar to NATO or the Warsaw Pact for South America? You could be the primary member, like the US in NATO, and my nation (Argentina) could be like the UK in the alliance. Daeseunglim (talk)
So, for some reason I am not able to edit AvA, I have no idea why, but in any case, would you please post the following for me: Peru: we continue to build up indestry, especially manufacturing and mining. Our GDP grows by a moderate 5.6%, and is expected to continue growing. We also begin to build up our navy, and start production of 8 new ships, and call as many as 6 back to port for modernization. We begin plans for aircraft carriers, and request that brazil assist us with this effort.
AvA South America
Take a moment to search "pakistan military strength" and tell me what percent of the population is in active service and the amount of people fit for service/are in service. Do the actual math.Tao64 (talk) 03:13, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
I just remembered in AvA R-word. My diplomats? YOU CANNOT CONTROL MY DIPLOMATS THE WAY YOU DID IN THAT GAME! YOU CAN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.....! *continues to rant so as to get rid of the anger gained from reviewing the game*
road to war on hold.
we will put on hold road to war im currently in the hospital because of an accident and it seems to be shakey im not going to let the game dye so we will have to try somerhing in september to bring it back. With Blood and Iron (talk) 00:06, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
How has stuff been? Saw Spain got destrotyed - Rip. Hope everything is going good. You mind giving me an update on the current sitch - the TSPTF talkpage just seems like the usual clusterfuck. ;) Imp (Say Hi?!) 08:11, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
I would make a great US player. As I said, 20th century America is my strong point, so I should be able to make a good player. I also doubt you saw Fires as Texas in the last SSS game, which desended into a nuclear CF. Seriously, please let me be America. I would be a great player. Spartian300 (talk) 14:01, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
Hahaha good to know things don't change all that much. Wondering what was going on with High Castle (unfortunately won't be able to join but still interested in seeing where your pet project is heading)? I hopefully plan to try to work on some TLs if I can (mainly the plausible ASB variety haha). But good to see you around. Imp (Say Hi?!) 11:29, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
Dawn of War
Can I be France. I know lots about early modern French History. I would be a good player as I know lots about France in the cold war. Thank You for your consideration.
Hi, sorry I signed up for your map game as UK without seeing Bold nation rules. My name is on there and I'll take it down if you say no but I'm wondering if I can play UK. I don't have many edits on here but I have lots of edits on map game wiki and I've played many map games. Please respond. Thanks! Revolution 9 (talk) 01:09, September 25, 2015 (UTC)
Also, Someone took France without asking for it.
Great Britain: We begin our reconstruction from World War 2. We decide to grant India independence as a constitutional monarchy, with King Goerge VI as there monarch. However, A certain amount of British troops are allowed to stay in India at one time for another 50 years. This is considered the first step in the decolonisation era of Britain. With that out of the way hopefully protests will calm down. We improve relationships with Australia and America. We wish to not trade with the Americas and Mexico seeing as they are what's left of the Axis. We build our military. We decide to improve the State of living in Britain, with many people in slums and poor housing. We decide that there won't be any green belt law in Britain seeing as it's stopping us to be more developed. We build more sutible houses in Britain, cutting down what use to be fields and forests. We decide to buy loads of oil from Saudi Arabia, seeing as it will be a very important thing when improving living in Britain. We offer free health care in Britain, called the NHS. We build more houses in Britain. We plan to build 'motorways' in Britain in the 50s. We wish to buy 5 nuclear bombs of America to help us defend ourself. We will develop the nuclear bomb in 5 years time.
If that purswades u then could u add my name beside Britain saying 'AH28 (message me at start)'.
Thanks for reading,
PS: Could I be a mod in this game please?
The Great Lakes
Dawn of War (Map Game)
Can i switch my nation from Egypt to South Africa? Because the game hasn't started yet and pls talk to me on chat
Dawn of War
Sorry if I've been a little bothersome but all I know about what happened to the UK after WWII in OTL is that they went bankrupt and lost pretty much everything. I'll try to do more research. Also can I delete these crossed out sentences and bold messages or do they need to stay for future reference. Also I was wondering why India is still a part of the UK when in OTL it became independent in 1947. Can you please tell me what event changed this? OMGdidiwin
Thank for answering my question. But you never told me whether or not I could delete the things you crossed out and the bold messages. I also left a question on the talk page for the map game. I dunno if you've answered it yet but I would really appreciate it if you could. Thank you. OMGdidiwin
DoW World Cup
Can I be in charge of the World Cups and Olympics in the DoW map game? I am Saudi Arabia, so I wouldn't really qualify for either (probably not even any events in the Olympics). This would make me impartial. I also have experience simulating World Cup Games, which I did twice for my own map game and once for a TL, so I have experience.
DoW Middle East
I'd like to talk to you about the Middle east in DoW, but in private. If you see me on chat, please pm me.
Yugoslavis: We ask the USSR whether we could get some nuclear information to set up pur own nuclear program with Romania. We ask the USSR whether we could peacefully annex Albaina. We aid communist revolutions all around the world especially in Greece, Cuba and Vietnam. We build our military. We build our infrastructure and our technology.
Dawn of War
I should've known being one of the superpowers in a map game would not be very easy (especially since this is kind of my first real map game), especially being the United Kingdom post WWII but it has been fun. I've just been a little stubborn. I will try to do what you said and begin giving independence to the colonies so that I'll stay on good relations with them. I know the mods aren't targeting me and the only reason I've been the center of attention so much lately is because I think I can rage war with every country there is without there being any consequences. I would like to know whether or not it would be better for me to continue trying to take the Suez Canal since France has been inactive and no plays as Israel, or give it up so that I don't lose anymore of my army. Anyway, thank you for the advice, it is much appreciated. By the way I am going to be leaving the country (as in the USA) on Friday and won't be back until the end of the month so I was wondering who will control my nation while I am gone? OMGdidiwin 01:02, October 13, 2015 (UTC)
Dawn of War
I want to give a head's up that I may withdraw from Dawn of War some point in the future. I have enough on my plate at the moment and I can't have too many map games at once.
I'm sure you understand,
Dawn of War
Maybe to make things interesting the Philippines will become ultra-nationalist and be incorporated into the Federation's sphere of influence next turn? Do you think it's possible? Candiesrgood (talk) 15:17, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
Could you help me in my invasion of British Sarawak. Also, perhaps after the Indonesian War, I will gain sovereignty over the sparsely populated North and East Kalimantan? Candiesrgood (talk) 11:46, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
Aliens in DoW
Feud I am confused as hell about the situation in the middle east. 1 million aliens have landed and now nothing has happened. Kurdistan has launched a liberation invasion and no mention. Can we have a concrete statment on the position and numbers of our own forces and aliens in the middle east. Person67 (talk) 19:40, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
chat one sec
May someone adopt the Dawn of War Map Game (but the map game will start at 1970.5, right before the aliens)? ~There was a candy, and it said, "Bruh, I'm coming for you, nigga. Oi, g'day mate you wanna mate?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Can I be mapmaker for The High Castle? (Bozistanball)
Dawn of War Continuity
I know I may be late in asking you this but is the Dawn of War map game going to continue? Also can I be the Republic of China in the high castle map game? OMGdidiwin 21:50, December 16, 2015 (UTC)
The High Castle
Feud, I would like to be Pakistan, I know it's under Indian Brits contorol at the time for THC (Bozistanball)
Feud, I am not suggesting that my claim was recognized. I am asking why you felt the need to take it away from me for no reason? Everyone else's claims were considered legal and the way tech tells it you said you were going to kick me at the start of the game anyway. India isn't that key and unless you have a good reason for why I am incapable of handling it I think you're just playing favourites. I accept maybe you don't want me as India but there are other nations I would have liked ot play as which are now taken because you couldn't be bothered to tell me at all and the game would have started with you not warning me whatsoever about you removing me as India for no reason. Person67 (talk) 13:17, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
OK, so you redid the list. Now I haven't met 1000 edits just yet but can I have Union of South Africa. bearing in mind the UK isn't in bold but South Africa is. South Africa isn't that big and it is nothing I can't handle. I have played map games and never been banned and like had one or two things I said retconned. I mean it's nothing that I am incapable of managing. Person67 (talk) 13:03, January 10, 2016 (UTC)
Feud can I please be the Republic of China? I originally had it before you reset everything. If not then may I play as the UK again? OMGdidiwin 18:47, January 11, 2016 (UTC)
I saw. I am accepting a few mod early to help get the game all set up, and you're one of them. I need a lot of help with the map & nations list atm.
That was 110% allowed. You were right to do that. But thanks for verifiying with me.
I am considering Pita's AvA style algo, but I'd like to take a look at yours just to see how it would work. Post it on my or the game's talkpage and I'll think about it.
Your ideas seem very interesting. An AvA algo definetly wouldn't work for this time period, and the concept of war overall in PM was usually extremely boring. If you can get on chat sometime tonight, I'll talk to you about the algo (and get you the offical mod page too, lol).
Treaties: Shall they exist?
Good day. I noted, having signed up for Ninety-Five Theses as the Teutonic Order, that you are going to be playing as Muscovy and I would like to ask you whether or not the alliance treaty signed between us historically during 1517, the game's beginning year, will be considered valid or not. Personally, I'd prefer that it were, simply because one can never have too many friends, if for no other reason than not having to fear their attack. So, hoping you will honor this agreement, your friend in Prussia, --Constantinus Byzantinus Maximus Talk At Me 00:24, February 10, 2016 (UTC)
Brilliant, well, that's good then, since Poland-Lithuania's basically threatened me with war already, so. Hoping all is well in Moscow, your friend in Königsberg, --Constantinus Byzantinus Maximus Talk At Me 20:24, February 10, 2016 (UTC)
Hey Feud, with the game starting tonight, we need an algo for the game all up and ready. Just have it ready when you get the chance.
Reply about Hordes
I am screwed
Map - And an apologyHey man, first up I'd like to apologise for pestering you about the 95T map, I realise that you are one of the only ones doing anything, and I've also realised that the ports I listed are dotted everywhere and are hard to find. Secondly, to save you the bother, I've quickly added the ports I needed myself, you can give it a look over if you wish to check if everything is in order. And if it looks fine to you, you could post it or give me the go ahead to. Sorry again, and thanks again for being patient. FP(Now 10% edgier!!!) 09:52, February 24, 2016 (UTC)
Ninety-Five Theses (Map Game)
Why did the HRE became a mega war? I mean its just me Florence and Brunswick-Luneburg versus Württemberg, Rex changed his country from Saxony to Ayutthaya, the Ottoman Empire withdrawed from the HRE, Bohemia didn't join the war and the rest of the HRE protestant players haven't posted for two or three turns. Wrto12 (talk) 12:26, March 5, 2016 (UTC)
The land deal
Sorry, I refused last turn without realizing you sent me a post. If you have that map you talked about on which land you want to buy, I may reconsider. However, I don't really see why those lands are an issue. Its not like historically it is not populated by Kazaks (my starting region was like three-fourths of the real Kazakh Khanate), plus those regions are good for a future invasion of the Oirat Khanate (which I'll probably do at some point). Zamarak500 (talk) 01:24, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
Would you like to make a DOW reboot with my help?
Seeing their are no mega map games coming I am willing to help you if you say yes to make a DOW reboot. (I can't help with algo)
I found the idea that you briefly mentioned to me on chat before I had to go very intriguing. We should discuss on chat at some point, it could be fun. FP(Now 10% edgier!!!) 21:45, March 22, 2016 (UTC)
CoAPrince Octavian , of Jerusalem, Sicily, and Swabia, and Duke of Amalfi.
How would Ming react to an invasion of 2 of their tributaries? I'm willing to consider your offer on being a tributary to Japan instead (I, personally, want to see a Japanese-influenced Philippines), but I need a turn to think it through.
I'm willing to make Tondo a tributary state, but foreign affairs are still up to me. Sadly, I don't want to be an autonomous province of Japan, but I'm very much open to an alliance, economic deals, and the arrival of Japanese settlers (Settlers, not colonizers. I want the rest of the Philippines.) and in return, I would like you to allow my citizens to visit Japan for educational and vocational reasons and to learn more about their culture.
Hmm. I agree to letting Japan have a colony in the archipelago (I can suggest all the black areas north of Pangasinan, which is north of my territory, although I'm open to negotiations. Erizium (talk)
It's up to you, actually. I don't think it would make sense for Tondo to ask Japan to be a Japanese tributary, but if Japan showed its naval might to Tondo and offered Tondo to become a tributary, it would be much more plausible Erizium (talk)
Please check it out. Either propose something or sign it. – † ⌒⌒⌒＼(;ᄋ;＼)三(ﾉ>ᄉ<)ﾉ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")
Relations Between the Third Bulgarian Empire and the Kingdom of Greece
Since I remeber you saying something about it, Italy has declared war upon me. I assume they will be rather distracted. Now I'm not asking you to get involved to support me, but I am just doing the friendly thing and informing you of the fact that Rex will likely be distracted for this coming turn. #BRINGBACK THESQUIRREL
http://mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/World_War:_1913_(Map_Game) this game has been moved due to the urgency to play-orwell
I'm new to this Wiki
Can you tell me the list of active Map games please. It's because I am new in Althistory.
Im on chat now, and I'm making maps-Lx (leave me a message) 21:34, October 13, 2016 (UTC).
Mod Council PMIV
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Principia_Moderni_IV_(Map_Game)#Colonization_Confrimation hey Feud can you approve or disapprove my colonisation of America/ Avalon. you basically know my reasons but if you have any questions I am on chat. Person67 (talk) 09:11, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
Standing Armies in PMIV
Hey, FP, I have a question about your post on standing armies. How much of my normal army could be in my standing army? I am the Sultanate of Bengal, and I have 188,000 men in the Bengali Army. I was thinking of maybe having a standing army of 38,000 men. For my vassals, the Ahom Kingdom has 6000 men in its army, and I am suggesting 2000 be in the standing army, and for the Kingdom of Ava, which has 15,000 men in its army, I am suggesting 5000 men be in its standing army.
anschlüss 19:10, November 3, 2016 (UTC)
Actually, Feud, since we landed in Aceh (the northern part of Sumatra), and Aceh is in the same region as us. Therefore, since both Bengal, Pegu, and the Bahmanids have naval concentrations, we should not have any penalties. The only country that should have a penalty is Delhi.
anschlüss 02:36, November 18, 2016 (UTC)