Talk: AwesomePeruvian

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Hello

Hello AwesomePeruvian. I just wanted to say hi the newest (As far as I know) person on Althistory. My name is TacoCopper, and I have been here for about four months. Anyways, here is some advise: just stay plausible on the Map Games and you too can work your way up to higher positions. If you stay long enough, you might even get to become part of the TSPTF. Other than that, have a good time here. TacoCopper

Thanks. If you want, we can engage in trade. Tell me what nations you have in what games, and if we arn't historical enemies, then I will send you requests in those games.TacoCopper

In spite of our recent conflict, the Ottoman Empire offers Peru a defensive allaince. DeanSims 18:16, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Peru accepts now that the war is over, it hopes to seek friendly relations with the nations it went to war with earlier

sweet, we would prefer to also align the Empire with your large Latin American alliance members.

fractured america is open for players, and Peru is not taken!! DeanSims 18:48, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bolivia

Thanks for, but i think that this proposal don't resolve the situation. I still would have to give land. For me the problem here is that i don't understand why a country that want to join to us insist in demands part of our territory in exchange? Something like this is unnecessary and only deteriorates the relationships between governments. Bolivia can join and recieve all our help to improve, without giving them lands. Besides, currently Chile and Peru works together improving in the roads between both countries in this territories; changes in territorial divisions probably will affect the economic progress. I think that should firmly establish that any country that want join to CLA should not put conditions like this. This is my position. Thanks again. Regards! --Katholico 22:58, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for that, I hope I'll definitely remember it when the unification comes! Callumthered 06:24, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Vive La Revolutin REVISION

Okay. Though I am not available right now. --RandomWriterGuy 23:03, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Fractured Europe (Map Game)

I created a map game called Fractured Europe and am in need of mods and/or players. Would you like to join?

CommanderOfTheFourthReich 00:51, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

I just joined your map game "Vive La Revolution Reloaded!" as the Swiss Confederacy. Are the Swiss considered "Neutral" in the game? Just want to know before I do anything. Blocky858 23:08, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I have a new Map Game,the "Grand French Empire Campaign" and I wanted to know if you'd like to join, and be a mod. Thank you. Blocky858 17:07, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lynxes21: hi in Vive la revolution reloaded, i am portugal and everyone is declaraing war on me because of Brazil. I didn't even know i controled Brazil. Could i just give them independence?

NE

This is my proposal for a divided Kurdistan:

Bobalugee1940 00:48, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

The Union agrees.AwesomePeruvian 01:19, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey again Peruvian. Is Switzerland Neutral, and did they have the right to take the two territories, where they independant? On the map is shows they are. Just a little arguement sprang up. Also, is Switzerland allowed to have colonies? (Most Specifically in Africa, North America, or India?) And also, this is a little map I drew up real quick to show the new regions apart of the Confederation.

As you can see, the red is me, Light Green, Britain, Blue, France, and others. I decided not to color in some nations, or break up Italy or Germany into the Germanic States or the Italian States. The map may be a little inaccurate, but it still features most of the important parts. Blocky858 03:23, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Triple Entente Vs. Central Powers

If war with a Mexico-American war starts which side would you be on. NOTE: I am not going to start one, but I wish to know just in case. Also I have come up with an idea for lan division if you were to join Mexico and we won.

The War That Came Early

Consider it done. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:13, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

On the Fractured America map My nation-- The Empire of Japan would like to initiate talks with GB on possible aid for industrialization.Andr3w777 16:17, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help. TacoCopper

Probably. I was thinking about switching to Prussia, mainly because I have been Russia for all Vive la Revolution games. I still haven't made up my mind. TacoCopper

As a matter of fact, I am, but Aztlan should not be in the way. The simple fact is that they could not fund such expeditions. And I know that you probably didn't see this part, but America claimed the red river basin, the part of British Canada jutting into America west of the great lakes. It should be a quick fix, but you don't have to do it right now. Monster Pumpkin 03:22, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Stand by. We'll get them. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 05:13, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

So is this PM 2.0 thing actually going to happen?Andr3w777 23:19, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Possible, what exactly do you have in mind? Andr3w777 01:00, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

In OTL timeline Japan does not join the world stage until 1869, however they did participate in numerous skirmishes with China and did have contact with the Dutch and British before Commadore Perry's trip from the U.S. Alliance accepted. Andr3w777 01:22, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Take it as a yes. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:32, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Triple Entente and such...

Personally, I am tired of Latin America. I prefer direct invasion. I have a plan for what I get from the war, but I don't know if you would get anything from it. We could probably discuss that once we win. Monster Pumpkin 23:38, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for offering to take care of America. Here is what I would like to happen:

1. Secure Mexico under America's control. Don't annex it or anything, but keep it under America's direct control, like a military government or something. Play it safe. If other nations threaten war, try to negotiate the best offer possible, and if they refuse, then withdraw. This should apply mainly to European nations.
2. Try to annex the Dominican Republic. Keep some forces in the DR until the war is over. During peace negotiations, please try to gain the DR. Play it safe.
3. Don't get into any other conflicts if you can. If someone declares war on you, that is another story.

Thank you. Monster Pumpkin 02:12, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Your plan...

Sounds good. Monster Pumpkin 20:10, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Napoleonic Europe Reloaded

This is an invitation to Napoleonic Europe Reloaded, and would appreciate if you joined; you also have the expirience to play as the nations of Spain and Brazil. http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Napoleonic_Europe_Reloaded_%28Map_Game%29#Rules

TevCp

If I recall correctly,I initially refused the alliance, until I was told that since you and Germany now have a common enemy, it would be no problem. (please check last turn) If however, this arrangement proves unsatisfactory, we will break off the ties with Germany and the Ottomans. Your help and assistance is imperative to Romania's survival, and I am very thankful for it. Callumthered 01:11, June 26, 2012 (UTC) I only opined the other alliance because someone said it wouldn't be a problem. So, who's in the entente? Callumthered 09:31, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Vive la Revolution

I decided that I will wait for another game to be China. However, I did sign up as the Emirate of Bukhara (one of the Central Asian nations), as I have noticed in map games that no one ever plays as Central Asians and they always get conquered by the Russians or Chinese or someone. LurkerLordB (Talk) 13:57, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Britian & Liberia

Would you be so kind as to help Liberia out in the Triple Alliance game? I want to take over French West Africa, and would be more than happy to alot any resources gained to Britain. I made the request to Britain and await your response. --"Truth fears no questions..." 02:06, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re:VRRRR

A hearty bonjour to you, AP.

OK. I'll tell Aztlan it's all or nothing.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:20, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

You've got less than 700 edits and your calling me a newbie? You've been here longer yes, but calling me a beginning is highly overrated if not flat out arrogant. I asked you for help because I didn't know you two were allies. Perhaps doing the smart thing and not blurting out insults would be the way to go for you in the future. --"Truth fears no questions..." 03:31, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

That was my idea exactly! Who else can we get into this? France? Britain? Maybe even Spain? I fully intend to achieve OTL's America borders and greater. Also, fill in the space next to Canada in Russia's color. The starting map was bad. Alaska should have been established and pretty darn big by the time we started. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:39, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Unless you've been told certain events have been changed for the ATL. I was told in one map game that certain historical events didn't happen. Plus, in the game, alliances changed like day and night. Plus, your nations didn't agree on many issues, leading to my assumptions that your alliance was anulled. And if I play my cards right, you might find yourself ruled from a tiny building in Monrovia. Remember, Englad was tiny once too. --"Truth fears no questions..." 04:04, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ah your arrogance. It strengthens me. Just so you know, the sun set of Britain a long time ago, you know, hence the reason its more of a mouthpiece for America. --"Truth fears no questions..." 04:25, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'm online, just working on my TL. It's called A World of Difference so if you could check out when it's up, thanks.

In other stuff, let's do this. HEIL AMERICA! HEIL SCRAWDAD! HEIL AP!

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 20:54, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Monster Pumpkin's map games.

Hi. I'd like to know if you are playing as MP's countries in his abcence, or who is. If you are please remember the aztecs in Columbus First contact? . Thanks David Rain (Sometimes...) 13:12, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

VLR

Hi AP. You mean this game? I not see the United Republics of South America in the list of nations :S --Katholico (talk) 03:27, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

OK don't worry :) thanks PS: You mean that i can change the name, right? --Katholico (talk) 05:11, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

OK, that make sense. Thanks --Katholico (talk) 05:25, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I've played 4 map games, and as far as I'm concerned, have a good record. Can I play as Russia or Prussia? (Though I'm cool with playing as Austria and Switzerland.) Never mind, I'm cool with playing as Greece, if permitted. Stewdio333 (talk) 06:13, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just copy-paste the code from my page. :)

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 18:16, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Brazils goverment in hiding has been captured and killed, can Brazil be free now? -Dean DeanSims (User talk:DeanSims) 21:00, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just click "edit" at thetop of my page.

Go to source and copy the codex.

Then edit your page and paste.

Change it accordingly.

Just write AP instead of Scraw and replace my hobbies with your hobbies, etc.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 23:11, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Tengo una idea!

Look at my box, and then tell me what you want.

EX: If Line 23 in my box says No, tell me that you want Yes instead.

Then I'll write up the code for it.

What do you think?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:42, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

OK then, we'll do it later.

Lol, but anyways, I go to sleep around 3 AM here and get up around 12 Noon.

It's short sleep hours for a sleepy person. I'm too lazy to go to sleep, but I don't want to get up either, lol.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:52, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Flag

It's no problem. And yeah, I've had that problem recently too; what I do to upload now is I save the file (on Paint, Inkscape, etc.), and edit the page where I want it to go. Then, I just save the page (the link should be in red with no picture) and simply click that link to upload it there. If you need any help, just let me know. ChrisL123 (talk) 17:49, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Answer

Sorry about that, AP. Been running behind on messages the last few days and I forgot about your post.

You're not the first one to have troubles. But, wikia is doing upgrades right now. I'd bet that that is the cause.

About the only thing I have for you is to tell you to update your computer, internet browser, and "java" software.

Lordganon (talk) 05:47, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

What

Have some respect to my choice. I do not play in games where everyone is implausible or inactive. I don't have to make any algorithms as I have made enough of these in my map games. And as the time goes you will(I hope) understand why it's stupid to play in such map games. See you. Doctor261 ^{(Talk to me!)} 07:19, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

New Beginning

hey... are you going to play the game or not, If you dont then i'll Free erase you from it and leave your Space free so that Someone can take southern France Kindgom again.

VLR

hey is it alright if i take japan the player who was using him hasnt returned if he doesnt return in 2 turns ill take up his place ok, im more into japanese, and thai culture.Nkbeeching

New Vive la Revolution

i think it would be best to start a new one there are alot of inactive players and its just ot fun that way want to start a new one and we can restart it and get other players and make a more epic and longer lastying one, we are without mexico and the states who are major componwents of the game same with china and russia. ill help you make the new one . Nkbeeching

I never said Liberia could conquer Britain or Russia, but was making a point as to how things could change over time. Britain is pretty much powerless today as a military force. And no rule ever said I couldn't use the talk page, just your own rule of mouth. And people bougth rubber from Liberia because of the humn rights issue in th Belgian Congo. The nations wishing to prove themselves civil tried to buy their rubber from other sources, the two others being Brazil and Liberia. Anyway, no rule saying I ca't use your page. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:04, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

If you obsessed with getting the last word fine. And I'm aware of what wank mean. And since you can't read my mind, I can tell you that I never planned on calling you a British wank, cause I'm not that childish. I let the matter go a while ago, and thought I'd get the person playing Ethiopia the correct population size. You made the entire thing an issue. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

And I can tell you Peruvian by both the name and the avatar. I can see and read too you know. And I must thank you for the Africa wank thing. While it is true, and I never denied it, I have an idea for an ATL. --"Truth fears no questions..." 17:21, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Afican Empire Implausiblity

I'll do my best. RandomWriterGuy (talk) 20:24, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yo, AP, we gotta think about getting him off of the SoCR. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:29, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

I mean, I'll be here in assisstence, not like fully taken control over the situation. RandomWriterGuy (talk) 04:44, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

German Re-unification

We're pissing off the Russians, With the Russian leadership gone for awhile it gives us time to unite. It will be a capitalist nation, but will not be allied with the GUD or the Soviets. It will become a nuetral ground where all sides can talk things out. I briefly looked up the Brussels Treaty, and under the amended Lisbon Treaty, Germany would still be unable to have a military, but I have decided to pursue the Japanese style, which would provide for a full miltary that is only allowed for defensive purposes, under the treaty, as long as it is monitored by the GUD we should be in compliance. It will be a full merging with the new capital at Berlin. The Wall will be removed, the Stasi, disbanded.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:57, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

The treaty is unclear, as it gives no direct mention on how the German forces will be set up, but providing it is for defensive purposes ONLY and with the GUD and the Nuetral nations looking on, it should be permissableAndr3w777 (talk) 04:17, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hey why'd ya take off my VRR map? I added my (Ottoman) expansion to the map. Also Lurk said that Bukhara wraps around the Aral, so this map is more correct.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:48, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Actually the reason I don't post is because I reflect whatever I would write onto the map. I thought I said this once. Anyways, Georgia is mine, the Crimea is mine, and tell RWG he has no need for the Black Sea. It's not like there's valuable resources or anything there. Anyways, I'm asking France, my ally since 1563, to defend you, and if he does, I expect you to as well, as their ally and whatnot.

Also, the reason I did stuff like ally with other nations, accept trade deals, let Greeece go, etc etc, industrialize with French help (as I do every game, lol), and everything else I've done is to prevent Ottoman collapse, failure, etc. The place isn't as bad as OTL. It's pretty much as good as Prussia after the Napoleonic Wars. Dhimmi has been lowered (sort of) and anyone who doesn't want to pay, well, Jews go to the Crimea, and if Russia attacks, that's like saying "Hi, I'm Russia, I'm really big and strong, and I hate Jews." and the Christians go to Georgia and anyone else (pagans, etc) goes to Persia. Simple.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

No kidding, eh? I was thinking the same thing in my mind, how the implausible/ridiculous/doens't like listening to other people space is always full. Be prepared though, Dean's ban expires soon, so beware Aztlan, the f-word, and all that other stuff. Also it looks like MP's not gonna be back for a while, so we should try reviving TEvsCP. I know that job was for Chris and myself, but we don't do it as well as MP, lol. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:18, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

What is up with the Vivaporious guy or however you spell his name. It seems like on every map game I go you and him get into it. I agree with you on the Ethiopia thing. I know it isn't my business but he is really freaking annoying and taking up alot of space with his arguements, can you and the other mods talk to him. Not neccesarily ban him, but just call him down. Its like playing with Dean. AKA a NIGHTMAREAndr3w777 (talk) 03:21, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Dang man, stop telling me everything I'm gonna tell you, lol! It's like having a twin! I mean, I'm Brandenburg (bow to Bradenburg you measly serf!) (just kidding), the most powerful nation on Earth (or at least in the Holy Roman Mess), and he gonna say "But the Africans had been trading with XYZ due top rubber and oil that they drill in two months and Brandenburg is just a puny German state." It aggravates me and will ruin my experience in Insane World II. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:56, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

If you and Scraw revive TEvsCP, I was wondering if I could play?Andr3w777 (talk) 04:28, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Your still not getting it. I never said Liberia could or would take over England or Russia, and the fact that you keep using that as a gossiping topic is fraking annoying, like your "do not respond" threats. I said, and in a very well thought out and planned manner, Liberia could in the far off, post-nuclear world, possibly do something along the lines of planting a flag on English soil if it had competent leaders, a better military, and lots of money. That's why I said things could change. Kuwait was a pile of dirt before the 1960s, now its faboulously wealthy. Who's knows, maybe that rumor about oil near Liberia may be true, and in 40 or 50 years Liberia has some money. Heck, Mali had more gold than England had sheep (in a manner of speaking), but it lacked modern technology. Don't know what that last part had to do with anything, but I'll be darned (yes darned) if you compare me with some older guy, and then mock my preferance of African nations. I'm waiting for Scraw to launch his new map game so I can play the Franks, but than aint anytime soon. And actally point out an implausibilty instead of accus me of them. I can't fix what I don't know. I can't read your mind, nor do I have any wish too. --"Truth fears no questions..." 06:11, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

First off, in New Beginning, the plot is at the beginning of th article, and it says that society spent the last 70 years getting back together. You don't need technology to build an empire, it only makes it easier to hold it. I'm Ethiopia, and it says that on the page, AT THE NATION SECTION. And your moronic "two year plan" is something YOU came up with, and only you and three other guys think that. I know because I see you talk page, if EVERYONE thought that, I'm pretty sure I'd know. In NB, NO ONE has any money. Not me, not Novo Columbia, not Caucasia. Your the truely annoying person. You keep coming to my talk page well aware that I'll respond. If you don't what me to respond, don't say anything on my talk page, and I won't. Stop obsessing over getting the last word or trying to exert authority when you have none. --"Truth fears no questions..." 16:10, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

My final response. New Beginning is still alive, and not dead like TAvsCP game. I know how to make a case for myself, and generally whether or not you care doesn't concern me. I won't respond, but I swear I don't want you to either. Learn humility AP. --"Truth fears no questions..." 16:33, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry as well. I tend to become belligerent when faced with opposition. Its something I'm working on. I understand your statements, and I really don't want to start anythin like this again. Sorry for the trouble, an I hope that this is the last argument we have. Once again, sorry for the trouble. --"Truth fears no questions..." 19:26, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, and I'll join VLRR. And for the sake of getting past the old issues, I won't be playing any African nations out of safety. :P --"Truth fears no questions..." 19:41, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, actually, looking at the map, I think I'll wait for VLR IV first. XD --"Truth fears no questions..." 19:43, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Bueno si necesito tu ayuda te pregunto, y lo siento por ser tan molesto por lo de bolivia, le crei a wikipedia que no es tan Correcto historicamente en muchas situaciones. y gracias por la oferta

Oh Okay I was confused, I saw Brasil and thought it was free, my bad Portugal you say? Yes I will do that disregard that post.Andr3w777 (talk) 01:11, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Novus Mundi

AP would you do to the Honor of Being the first mod to signup? 186.144.95.6 23:33, July 22, 2012 (UTC) Sine dei gloriem

Why'd you quit Novus Mundi? Can you at least agree to the alliance offer with the Ottomans? It's 63 years early, but it can be done. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:25, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

PMII

I am taking requests for nations colours. If you are interested in picking your own colour then message me. Scandinator (talk) 23:38, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Athens in 1450 was a Byzanite vassal. Aragon sold it to Florence in the late 14th century. I'm not going to agree to an alliance since you are occupying Naples and Venice hopes to unite Italy and also because you are a rival naval power. Also a dynastical union is out of the question, Venice is a merchant republic and therefore doesn't have a king or queen. Instead we have an elected merchant who rules the nation so any dynastical union will end in 5 years. Also red is taken is pink ok? Scandinator (talk) 03:17, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

vive la revelution

hey, vive has moved on, and my former nation was annexed, so i was wondering if i could be the phillipenes

okay, how about ireland then, could they revolt and try to form their own country at this time, with the industrial revelution and all

Hey, I just wanted to tell you, the imperialist Holy Roman Empire will conquer Aragon if, and only if, all goes well. Just a minor heads up. Also, can you check out my TL A World of Difference and tell me if you have any ideas for it? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 21:52, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Pah. The consolidation will occur by 1470. And we'll have Venice on our side. Once Italian conquest begins, especially after the Papal States fall, we'll get Naples, which you own. If we win, down you go! Bow down to the Holy Roman Mess!

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:16, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

German States Thingy

What map game is this for? And yes, I will agree to the operation. RandomWriterGuy (talk) 04:23, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

I have a geniousotic idea!

Merge with Venice in dynastic union and the whole Empire will help you conquer all of Spain under your rule! Then we'll have France locked in and we'll conquer it! Then we can go after the British Isles! What say you?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:36, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Scandinator. Basically willing to do anything so long as Italy (or most of it) is his. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 05:00, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

OK. We can even go after Morroco eventually if we're powerful enough. But let's not go to far. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 00:59, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting fact: in OTL in 1509 Aragon and Castille entered dynastic union. You could simply avoid that by joining with Venice instead. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:17, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

And another geniousotic plan doth Scrawland haveth.

You can ally with Brandenburg and/or Austria, you help us strengthern our united Holy Empire, we help you be a conquistador in the rest of Spain. Then eventually you can enter dynastic union with Brandenburg and/or Austria, and you can enter the Empire with your Spain. Then the rest of the Empire can help you take France if you would be interested in doing so. But this would all happen by the 1520s or something.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 05:13, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean by "home nation"?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 11:05, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hola

Como español que soy, acepto jiji xD. Me parece bien la idea para unificar la península y demás. Sobre Francia tampoco me importaría, pero creo que tendríamos que mirar mas hacia América y/o Portugal. Saludos camarada hispano. Jaeden Cuenta Cuentos (talk) 11:21, July 28, 2012 (UTC).

Existe um jeito de ser parte desse reino unido sem estar em união dinástica/pessoal com os outros estados desta?

P.S. = this reply is in Portuguese because, well, you say that you are fluent in Portuguese.i am Brazilian.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:05, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mas a Irlanda nunca tinha sido um país unificado antes dos normandos/ingleses invadirem.quando o reino da irlanda foi fundado em 1542, para o rei da Inglaterra, era basicamente uma mudança de título, de "Senhor da Irlanda", para 'Rei da Irlanda".o caso aqui é que temos um país que é unificado, e tem dinastia própria.como seriam os procedimentos?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:26, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Bem, o formato mais próximo de algo lembrando um reino unido que seria mais aceitável para os meus objetivos no jogo seria o formato do Império Alemão, que era algo como uma monarquia federalista.algumas das regiãoes constituentes dele tinham monarcas, de dinastia diferente da do Rei da Prússia, que também era o imperador da Alemanha.Aliás, qual é o objetivo desse reino unido?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:51, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Então, os interesses já são conflitantes o bastante para que Portugal não entre. o máximo que pode ser feito em uma situação assim é uma aliança.ou um pacto de não-agressão mútua.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:23, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Fractured America Mark II

I have asked Scraw about possibly reviving Fractured America as Fractured America Mark II. If we go through with this I would like you to join, and help along the way, this would be my first reboot.These are not the droids you are looking for. 22:32, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I can't post in Novus Mundi.

Under the complaints section, please add this:

"Sine, you really do not understand the meaning of surrender. Why don't you look it up? You surrendered, plain and simple. What I do with your nation is my choice. Not yours. After surrender you have no say in what happens. So forget about it. Go and pick another nation and see if you can beat me with that. And don't take Persia, I'm going to conquer that next. ~ Scraw"

And in Spanish, as Google translate is acting a bit wonky.

Thanks.

Also, as a heads up, I won't have internet connection for a while because I'm moving. In VRR, just post for me every turn saying this:

"The Ottoman Empire continues to build up its military, economy, and infrastructure."

Also in 1859 state that the Sultan dies and his son looks for a wife and ask Bukhara first. I want to see a dynastic union. Tell Lurk that when the time comes, please. After that let him post for the three nations. If that fails just add next turn that the Sultan marries a Princess frmo inside the borders.

Then for Persia until 1853:

"Persia begins/continues the job of keeping the Afghans controlled."

Also in 1854 add that the new Sultan gives Afghanistan its own autonomous states within Persia.

I think you'll be able to handle diplomacy as I do and get into wars accordingly.

Every now and then I'll pop in if I can find a coffee shop, lol.

Bonsoir!

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:04, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Triple Entente

Why not make a turn in this game.

My corrections

Sorry about that.

I'll try to remember to leave it alone.

EoGuy (talk) 01:02, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

What on earth is wrong with you? Chewing out someone for making spelling corrections is rude, at best.

If someone wants to fix the spelling and grammar on an article, they are always allowed to do so.

Lordganon (talk) 23:48, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

New Beginning

i agree with you, but im going to wait to see how far he i'll go before completely making him fall, like alexander empire then something happens and then boom the empires fall apart into a small series of Kingdoms maybe in 2001 summer or 2002 spring, and the game is asb because i want it to make it last as much as it can so i supposed that everything happened like a thousand years before things like jesus borned in 748 b.c in OTL

A Great world

he, can i post( again) my map game link in your's, because well, like you said yours is one of the most succesfull ones so, would you allow me too?

ok, i understand, so may i ask which are the other succesfull games in here so i can see if i can post them there

VLR

• I'm in. Enclavehunter (talk) 07:42, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
• I must admit, you did a very good job of convincing him to join a war that serves little to no purpose. Other then territorial ambitions, do you have any reason for starting this war? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:52, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
• And to think I left you in charge of my nation. I'll not repeat that mistake, Mr. Frankish Peruvian. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:58, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
• First of all, stop accusing, capiche? I don't expand for my benefit, as a matter of fact, I left a thin strip of alnd for him to go around. You colonized that. I did not purposefully expand to block him. Why would I do that? You think I would make an enemy out of the nation of France, the two of us who have been through thick and thin with each other since Suleiman III? Sure. Do not accuse of doing stuff. I have problems with this in real life and I will not tolerate it on the internet. And why don't you like it? You think I'm not going to let my chief ally and his chief ally share my waterways? You actually want me to senselessly give up land? Get out of town bro, no one does that. And I have to ask, why would he want Algeria? No one knows about the oil yet. He'd mostly be faced with rebellion from the blacks and Muslims, so that's a big no go. And I hardly have any of Algeria. Why can't he just take the land south of me where the oil is? Hmm? Your argument is greatly out of place and heavily implausible. This is nothing but warmongering. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Also, I apologize if you tae offense or feel jurt because of my comments and statements. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 07:03, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, let's forget this whole ordeal. Yes, I saw that the "Proud Leader of the Althistory Revolution" is taking over Austria Hungary. I'm watching him like a hawk. I wonder what Revolution he's talking about. The only type of that we have was Jazon's Rebellion from back in the day. Dean always gives me a good laugh, lol.

OK, have fun in Mexico.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 07:11, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

thanks for cambodia and i'll prepare my self to starting colonies in africa maybe in what 15 - 30 years/ turns. also the A Great World map game started, you should start before every one else over expands Sine dei gloriem (talk) 16:13, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

A Great world II

the game has started Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:14, August 11, 2012 (UTC)]

Ap ARE you going to play the the game or not, i know it is asb but come on, three turns and you haven't post anything Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

CD, Cm

The Entente needs you! Come back!

The Royal Guns (talk) 04:59, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lobositz Lamentable Loss

Sorry for the delay, but the game has now begun! RandomWriterGuy (talk) 05:32, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

CDCM

Entente (Carpe Diem, Carpe Mundum)

Our strategy page.

The Royal Guns (talk) 15:02, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with everything, but why would I lose Persia? It was Sunni Muslim about until the late 1800s. Also I plan on giving the Balkan countries autonomy within the Empire, sort of like a British Commonwealth member or somethnig. This will happen around the 1890s or so. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:09, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

World wars: not really. Commies: not really. They might take some small country, like Croatia, and the unstable South American nations. Fascists: there'll be some, somewhere. I suggest an Austria or Russian Hitler. Socialist: yes, but they wouldn't take hold. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:23, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

XD 2:30 AM here. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 06:31, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, what do you think about a Romanian Napoleon to start World War I? Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 04:12, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

VRR Nation Response

Okay, I'm alright with the United Realms of Great Britain, Germany and Spain ("realms" because they're not all kingdoms) UR for short.

I would like it to work like Austria-Hungary otl: Same monarch but different Legislatures for each realm. (Obviously defence and foreign affairs would have to be combined, and there would have to be a page where the three of us could discuss such things.)

We could maintain our own militaries, but have a unified High Command, which would obviously take charge during wartime.

With regard to the colonies...How are they going to work? Could they be administered as part of an individual Realm (eg: German Greenland administered as part of Germany), but everyone from all the realms has equal rights of movement and trade to all the colonies, regardless of which Realm it is a part?

Callumthered (talk) 05:24, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

hey ap i have a question for you, what do you think about a game set around in the aftermath of the roman empire or one set around the cruzades or the Latinoamerican independences which would you think to be more succesfull, i want to make one but the other ideas are completely asb's Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:29, August 17, 2012 (UTC) please help me, and play in a great world, you said you wanted and it would be nice to have someone to avoid to make it asb

Here is my own, poor, attempt at a potential flag, based on the Austro-Hungarian design.

(I would like to remain a Grand Duchy...If that's alright. It's just a personal preference. And ayway, now that the Grand Duke is also Prince-Primate of the German Confederation, it will be officially part of the union.)

Callumthered (talk) 05:32, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm interrupting or coming into a conversation i'm not supposed to be or care at all, but i think you should do something more like this

as you might see thear are the colors of the German Flag, the British flag and the pixelated Spanish emblem and you should add your nations name in a special nation category named the United Realms or how you choose to namer your union and in there keep your flags respectively but in this one show a flag similar like this or the one you choose

• UR
  • UK
  • GDoM
  • Spain

Sine dei gloriem (talk) 02:07, August 18, 2012 (UTC

I think Sine has a point about the flags, and how the nations should appear on the list; very good work!

Here is my own flag in the style of Sine's:

It has the Union cross, German Tricoluor, as well as the Spanish red-and-gold. (I prefer this one because I find coats of arms on flags ugly, and hard for schoolchildren to draw!)

Callumthered (talk) 02:55, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

you could aswell add maybe stars to depict the idea of three powerfull states under the union and i agree with you on school children Thing( we hate you coat of arms, with love SDG) also nice flag Sine dei gloriem (talk) 03:01, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like you're trying to merge the flags of Spain, Britain, and Germany here. What about my proposal:

Spain is represented with the cross of Burgundy — Hellerick 06:06, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Imperialism II

Game has begun. --RandomWriterGuy (talk) 20:07, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Before either of us starts a rage fight, let's talk.

A: Russia givnig all ethnicities equal rights? My ass. Russia is a frakking autocracy. Meaning an absolute monarchy.

B: My dominions will rebel yet yours won't?

C: Weak Mexican states will not join the CSA or Aztlan? That makes them prime targets for the USA. Reminder: You told me to invade Mexico when I was filling for MP.

So before you do anything, let's discuss the issues at hand like rational people.

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:00, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

A: Well that would be far more implausible. Autocracies don't really do that unless faced with a rebellion or something.

B: I've had the Balkans since the 1400s. Much longer than you had Canada or Australia. Certainly they would be Islamified by now. And I need a good name, the like the Union of XYZ Republics. Muslim and Middle East don't work. I'm stuck, so MU was the best I got. I'm thinking now of Union of Sovereign ? Republics, with a NU style nation, although no communism. I might also try and get Bukhara in on it.

C: OK. But I think the three (Sonora, Chihuahua, Rio Grande) would join the CSA or Aztlan instead of being left vulnerable like that.

Also, I am considering joing up with China, Bukhara, and Japan in a quest to launch a preemptive assault on Russia. Would you get involved?

And I have a new D.

D: Sweden and Russia are like total "Screw you" terms, and they hate each other, like the I-kill-you ind of hate each other, so can we tell them that their alliance is null and void and never happened?

And E: How did you and France become such great pals oh-so-long ago?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:33, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

OK, I concede to A to D. But E? Ridiculous. Come on, we're talking Napoleon I Bonparte of France here! England was his greatest enemy of all time! No way he would ever do that. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 01:52, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Regardless, you can't change Napoleon. He was already in the Revolution at games start. Anywho, I'm not interested in a rollback, you can keep going as it is. Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 02:05, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Go For It!

I support the reunification of Scandanavia. It's like the Greater Europe map game, only it's peaceful, rather than Sweden invading Norway under fascist rule. Okay, I'll announce plans for reunification. Stewdio333 (talk) 07:40, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Coding

Happens when someone majorly screws up a post. Not only is is fully reversible, but you only need to "undo" the offending edit to fix it.

I've fixed them - note, however, that the VLRR one was your post. Watch things a touch more carefully ;)

Lordganon (talk) 07:58, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Got me, never done it myself.

Just check your posts after you make them. If the page is screwed up, you'll notice.

As for anyone else, just look for posts that are far too large in bytes than the posts itself looks.

Lordganon (talk) 09:18, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

UR Capital

So, I've been thinking of where the ceremonial capital of the UR should be, and I came up with a candidate: Heligoland. It's in the North Sea, kind of halfway (more like one third) of the way between the two countries. And I purchased it from Heligoland a turn or two ago.

It may be small, but it only needs to house a few things: the Combined Defence Ministry, Combined Cabinet and a ceremonial residence for the King/Grand Duke. It is also a very useful naval station, which could protect the ministries from attack. Callumthered (talk) 04:16, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Okay sure, wait wait wait wait WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????!!!!! Leaving?!!! You??!!!! No way! But if that what you want, I can't stop you. But I can't believe that this is actually happening! You want to spread the word or not?

Syngraféas Enallaktikí̱ Istoría, Dic mihi lingua Anglorum. 03:09, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Me podrías dar tu MSN ó Correo para mantener contacto sobre el Principia Moderni II?. Gracias :). Jaeden Cuenta Cuentos (talk) 14:22, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Sweden PMII

Hey AP, Um... I dunno how to tell you this but ManofSteele is returning in a week from exams and he asked me to try and keep Sweden open. I would be a great favour to me if you did not pick it. Note: France is open. Scandinator (talk) 00:36, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfect! PM2 is 1500, same year I lose control of Aragon! I knew I could kepe it for you! Aragon and Brandenburg are in dynastic union, one kings: Freddie IV. All the Christians of Europe are fighting this Muslim megastate called the Caliphate. I conquered North Africa using Aragon. Aragon+Brandenburg also explored half of North America (called Antillia)'s East Coast, as well as funding a voyage to OTL South America (called Atlantis, my suggestion woohoo!) next year. We've also got a colony in Africa, and we're married to half the royal houses in Europe.

VRR, sure. I'll play both games.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 03:38, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've arranged marriage Castile in the near future. I'm trying to conquer Denmark. Sweden and Norway are one, Brandenburg's ally. RUSSIA is a VERY IMPORTANT ALLY of the HRE, especially BRANDENBURG, who made the RUS and the HRE be friends. I want OTL NA up to the Mississippi, and north of that. That must be mine! I already have New York secured. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 04:51, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what will happen because PM has only ever seen two nation changes. One was someone on wikibreak whose nation got conquered, the other was on wikibreak and their nation was fragmented. You have neither issue so I believe you should return as Aragon, if the other mods allow a nation change then you may remain as Sweden (be warned Yank still seems to carry a grudge against Sweden and has already tried to break it up twice). Scandinator (talk) 05:29, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

He did not delete his own name, Yank did shortly before dissolving the Kalmar Union and breaking off Finland from Sweden. And who should he have gotten to fill in? Me? I barely have enough time as it is. All three of us (me, MoS and AM) are on exam periods. Scandinator (talk) 05:39, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

While you unify Scandanavia, I feel fair to warn you that Russia has plans for the Saami, especailly in the Kola Peninsula, and perhaps the Finns. Still, I see no reason that we can't aid each iother in the pursuit of these goals.

The Royal Guns (talk) 16:42, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

AVAre

Fancy a trade deal with the Republic of Québec? Québec offers trade deal to France. Wood, wood pulp, paper, iron ore, moose steaks, elk steaks and reindeer steaks are on offer. We offer an alliance with France.90.244.91.81 21:23, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you're Sweden? Now I have to go to Lurk and tell him that you're not going to be Aragon and see if I can grasp rule over both countries or else Aragon goes free to a new player. Anyways, can I at least get the Danish outlet in Germany? And would you consider conquering Finland together? It's ambitious, but we can pull it off in say 1515. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 04:39, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

You got a deal on everything. Thou hath receiveth one mighty port city in the great north of the greateth country that be ARAGON, LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, MASTER OF WIZARDS! Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 19:18, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'D TELL YOU A CHEMISTRY JOKE, BUT ALL THE GOOD ONES AR(A)GON.

Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.)

Finland?... planning to do it before 1510. We could split it. Though really, you should talk to Lx about that. Still, we call the Saami.

The Royal Guns (talk) 21:53, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bro, A) talk to Lx, B) we're closerThe Royal Guns (talk) 15:13, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Worth a shot. The Royal Guns (talk) 19:22, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Norway

If you didn't post that your navy defeated the pirates, you can't claim that they did.  If you don't post something, it didn't happen.  I posted in 1504 that there were pirates, and you didn't state that they were defeated.  Sorry, you can't retcon events you don't like. LurkerLordB (Talk) 11:18, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. I thought there were real pirates. Until I can verify anything, consider our alliance unbroken. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 23:03, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Norway was an NPC for quite some time, you were just barely taking control as I began these motions.   The only reason you took control was your incredibly convenient series of marriages and deaths in the span of 4 years.   Furthermore, your nation just suffered a massive civil war, there is obviously going to be violence.   Also, it's in the rules to cause movements among the common people of a nation without that player's permission, and I would say encouraging piracy because my nation has a lot of new wealthy trade and yours is very war torn and poor is certainly plausible and not that major of a movement. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:17, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I checked up, and your prince didn't become the king of Norway until after I had posted my turn in 1504.   So at the time I posted about the pirates and Norweigan government, it was an NPC, you hadn't taken control yet.  So you had no way to conduct diplomacy with the Norweigans or stop the pirates at that time, and there was no reason for me to especially inform you of what was going on.  Sorry, but you picked up Norway just a few hours after I had set events in motion that I had been planning for 20+ years in this game.  Scotland has not other designs for any Norweigan territory. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:28, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

You fought a 13 year long war, which would have been longer had I not stopped the event to help Norway when my eventual attack came.  There's no way that Norway can recover from a war that long and brutal so fast.    It was posted in moderator events that the war drained so much money from Norway that they couldn't fund the lone explorer Cjest Reginsson, and that was after only 6 years of the fighting.   After 7 more years, their financial situation is going to be even worse. I'm sorry, but to take control of another nation your king needs to be its king, so they still were officially NPC.  It is precedent that for events that affect other nations in turns, the actions of whoever posts first occured first.  Scotland has a very clear reason to want Faroe, to stop the piracy and to further their control over trade in the Norweigan Sea (which they have worked on doing since before you took control of Sweden).   I am not biased at all, every action I have done has been plausible, and has been within the rules. Retconning is bad continuity, and should be done in only the most severe of situations. LurkerLordB (Talk) 02:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Just present diplomacy to Bavaria that requests to enter the HRE. Be aware that Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland shall be admitted seperately and that you will only control Sweden. And you have just gone and ruined every single plan I had for expansion of Brandenburg. :( Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 18:06, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Because. Now their is no non-player land left in Europe. France is too far for anything good, and there you have it.

And also, because. The other because is because (because is because XD) Scandinavia is too large a state to join wholly. You can still play as Scandinavia, but the Empire and the Emperor will only recognize Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 22:50, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

I concur. Hasta la vista, baby. (I'll be back.) 23:41, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

We never finalized the algorithm, several complaints against it were not followed up on and discussion on it died, so we just kept to using Scandinator's list. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:12, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I added you to the list for 1509. LurkerLordB (Talk) 01:57, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Morocco, definately not. Smaller, less developed, non-Muslim countries might be able to be vassalized without an algorithm after 10 years or so, but you would need to have built up a fairly big colony around them. LurkerLordB (Talk) 00:15, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Venetian alliance

I will agree to an alliance with Scandinavia.Scandinator (talk) 09:27, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Russian Fed stuff

actualy, I planned to have the saami part of Russia long before you came and played as Sweden. although I think it is a bit annoying that you managed to vassalize them in one turn, I was waiting for me to recuperate from war and attack them in a sure and decisive manner. honestly, if it werent for the great holy war, they would already be speaking russian, although i respect the first come first served premise of this game but am just a bit annoyed that my plans were ruined in the span of three days. And about the Kola: I could just cross the entrance to the white sea and settle the Kola, I have a white sea fleet of mainly primitive icebreaker galleys. This is possible. -Lx ^{(leave me a message)} 16:30, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Alliance

I'll love to be in alliance with you. Let's do it. --Galaguerra1 (talk) 21:18, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that in your colonization date page, you got two dates for your nation.Scandinavia only could begin to colonize in 1509, and Denmark onyl could begin in 1504.you colony on the James river was founded before 1509, thus it is only valid if it is a danish colony.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 16:07, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe in OTL, but the treaty of Tordesilhas was never signed in ATL, as Castille was inactive as of its date, and Portugal never bothered to ask for a division.

Well, about the Canaries, i tried to warn LLB(or it was Scan?) that Castille had a vassal in the Canaries but he didn't listen.i, for myself, only colonized the islands that weren't taken by that vassal in 1450.

Depends.what this trade pact is about? about the alliance, yes. --Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:01, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

I already did it, mostly chainging the place of the colony to OTL Connecticut.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:50, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Bem, no caso, o problema principal com isso é que se houver essa venda, eu não posso fundar outra colônia até 1548, tempo em que todas as terras disponíveis já estarão ocupadas.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:28, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

re: AvAre

Thanks, I really appreciate it. I'm really busy in real life, so I can't keep up :( PitaKang- (But here's my number|So call me maybe) 18:41, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

VRR

Listern bro, I wanna play VRR, but you have to cut the goddamn implausibility. One of the reasons it originally collapsed was because the CSA (which should be frakking dead by now), which has no industry or economy or enough men to stand up to a mighty Union + a jillion acres of land and men from Mexico, as well as arms, kept on winning back states. If they had the capability to take it back, the bare truth is that they wouldn't have lost it in the first place. The more important bare truth is that the CSA sucks. Plain and simple. They have NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING that can actually help them survive against the Union.

And B: the whole horse thing? It was hardly serious OTL. It definitely won't get worse ATL. I read this article about Disease, Births, and Deaths, and the chances of any of those happening ATL at exactly the same time and same rate/pace as OTL are smaller than they were to happen in OTL. Simply put, most of it is impossible.

And C: Why the goddamfeck is there an economic crash in the US?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 04:17, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

That's it. I'm tired of your colonies. How much do you want? I'll let you colonize somewhere else. There's only room for two colonial masters in Northeastern America, and that's me and Portugal, cause we were there first. Gimme your New York and New Jersey colonies, cause I explicitly told everyone a long long time ago that those were mine, and that any trespassers lives would become living hell on the wiki. Not my fault you weren't here. So how much do you want for New York and New Jersey? Cause Collie and I already have plans and colonies, and we'll gang up on you if need be. And your colonies aren't even on the map. So how much do you want? (And, I vassalized the Iroquois nation next turn. So there.)

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:43, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

There's what me and Collie originally agreed on. I can accomodate that much for you. The area around the great lakes, plus the OTL great New York area is mine and I will stop at nothing to enforce that.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:48, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

What? your colonies aren't nowhere near reaching Massachussets right now.the numbers of colonial expansion aren't for each colony, but to be split between the colonies.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:57, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

>.> I was there in 1501. 15-O-frakking1. So how much do you want? Think like a 16th centruy European noble. You want money. You'd do almost anything with a little bribe.

So, at least the New York colony before I launched the Seven Years' War fifty years in future.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 20:58, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Forget everything I said! I am a happy person now! Your colony does not exist! Because, you have reached the limit with your colony in Virginia, Pennsylvania-Delaware, and Nova Scotia! Ha! Northeastern Antillia is for Collie and myself!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:00, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

You can't have an extension on one colony in a completely different place as an excuse. It's too small to be an exclave anyways. Anywho, my Iroquios minions will just kill your colony.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:06, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, as that map shows, i got a objective of reaching the Great lakes, so i would propose a border on Southwestern Maine.(i get that southwestern part, and you get the rest.)--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:09, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I've been talking with them for years. Who said it was a year?

Also, there are no such things as Pennsylvania and New York ATL, so the border is nonexistant too. Stop trying to use OTL things ATL.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:10, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

You know what, screw all this. Can I just buy the colony? I'll sell you my colony in Brazil.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:11, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!! That's what I've trying to say. You know what, just to prevent things like this, I'm inviting you and all of Europe to colonization conference in Berlin!

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:20, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Right. Actually it's the granddaughter, but she's in line for the throne, lol.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:28, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I would accept, but i hate those straight-line borders.how about the borders being OTL York County, Maine?so you still have space for Portland.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Our only choice be war. The meeting begins now.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:40, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:46, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

How about this: our border will be at OTL Maine's border, until York County's borders, from where western territories are Portuguese and eastern are Swedish.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:59, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you have all of Maine, except for York County.But i onl will be able to follow through with the Canada discussion tomorrow.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:07, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Vive Reloaded

i might want to rejoin Vive if i do ill probably be retaking my post as new granada, is that ok?

also mind taking a look at my timeline and giving me your point of view its A Darker Place

The Caliphate

Are you willing to get your Scandinavian hands dirty? If so, then I have a proposal. Imp and I looking for nations willing to combat the growing menace of the Caliphate. That nation is downing entire kingdoms like nobody's business, and it just turned its eyes to me. Additionally, the Caliphate is threatening Europe from what I've seen. Since you lead one of the largest nations in Europe, I was hoping you could help out in stopping the Muslim invasions, and perhaps persuade some of the other European nations to join in as well. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 20:07, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Scandinavia

Sure. I'll do it. So what I am going to do for Scandinavia is: continue war on hurons(or not if mods decide to recount them), expand your colonies by 1000sq km, and in the case that the mods do decide to annul the wars on natives, I'll just change the war part to military/economic developpement. Is that fine or is there anyting else you want.-Lx ^{(leave me a message)} 18:25, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, Hindustan will agree to an alliance. I will need your backing for the Brandenburg problem. This is because the Cahphilate and Bengal are teaming up against me for the second time in 20 years. So I invade Bengal, the Cahpilate invades me. Bengal invades me, the Cahpilate supports them. It is a paradox in every meaning of the work (ah good, now we can hope of making some real progress!). Yet there can be a way out, Russian backing. If I can get Russia to protect me if any cahpilate nations decide to go aggressive against me, then they will not attack. If Bengal teams up with Brandenburg, then I will ask you to come to my side. And if we win, I will have no need for any European territory, so, you know, it'll be all yours. All I need now is to ensure that I can help protect Ethiopia in a worst case senario. :L Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 00:36, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Brandenburg no longer a problem, Scraw is with us. Check out my talkpage, Imp's, Lx's, and Viva's. Should give you a good idea of what kind of hell is raining down over the next 96 hours. We're talking about the complete collapse of the Caliphate. But we need massive amounts of backing. (This is just so you understand the situation when you get back, I know you're gone.) The Royal Guns (talk) 02:19, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

I knew that game became total and utter BS. Meh. Let it join the ranks of the failures.

In other news, I have no royal blood in me other than the fact that I had an ancestor working in the Mughal courts. So basically I come from waiters and cooks. (And let's face it. My people cook good.) Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:30, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

All that I can say as look at the stats. Bavaria has never brutally butchered any kind of people for being different, we have been involved in few wars, and have been the catalyst for peace numerous times. We are the central bank of Europe. All we want is to be left alone to practice our affairs, and yes we do have an alliance. I know that this is a lot so I won't tell you where to side, just remember the so called evil Kappelists never rounded up poeple and left them in the town sqaure to die, we never rounded up Catholics nd had them hung outside the gates. Look at our post, we even let the Catholics STAY without harsh punishments, what side seems to be the most level?Andr3w777 (talk) 22:06, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Where exactly did Lurk say this to you? I checked your talk page but saw nothing of the sort. VonGlusenburg ^{(talk to Von!)} 22:06, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

That is a loop-hole I assume. Ah well, at least you only used the l-hole for 1 colony. Anyway I'll be taking a colony from Savoy-Naples this year anyway (their one in the Congo is going to be wiped out by disease). As for the colonies in Asia, I'll look into it but I so far see no European colonies there on the map.

Also I am not currently Caliph but you can form a trading pact with Syria if you wish, so go ask Fed as he rules Syria. VonGlusenburg ^{(talk to Von!)} 00:48, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Rumelia offers the hand of Amber Joseni, daughter of the Rumelian sultan and the neice of the Wallachian Sultana. She is 23 years of age and Orthodox Christain. Looks strikingly simalair to Angelina Jolee. (DeanSims: Talk) 12:46, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Venice has bad relations with the other Italian States. They envy our wealth and we must constantly fight to protect our sovreign territory. Scandinator (talk) 06:28, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sure I'm in. There nation is overextended and screams unstable. Maybe its time for them to downsize a little. Scandinator (talk) 13:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Medieval World

It seems like you missed the first turn. Cosman246 (talk) 19:30, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

MW

Who are you? The Ummayyads? My plan was to slowly conquer Arabia and North Africa and then move in Iberia/Andalusia. Then I should slowly wrap around Europe with the eventually Muslim Russia. If you can enlarge yourself in Europe to help me massify (lol "massify") Islam, then I can one day make Europe the Africa of OTL. Yay me. Yay you. Yay Andrew. Yay for ATLs.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:42, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Pelo que eu lembre, eu não respondi àquela oferta, e eu nem sei se vale a pena mais, contando que basicamente todos os pontos possíveis da América e da áfrica já foram ocupados.E, por obséquio, o que você planeja com aquela outra parte sobre herdeiros?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:55, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, they said if we attack any of their Kappelist DEFENDANT allies. So maybe you can create a war, with Schleswig-Holstein starting a rebellion against you, Scandinavia, so then we will have a war of defense and they shall aid us. And then we can beat the gallion out of the Caliphate, too, if we need to.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:39, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Apparently, we got into a personal union between ourselves.i don't know what you are planning, with you making Dinis the heir to the Scandinavian crown (i assume that Prince of Finland means that), but i would like to warn you that in 1562, Dinis only will spend some few months as king of Portugal, and then he will die with no surviving offspring, and then he will be succeeded by his brother Afonso.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:16, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

1555. Wanna pull them at the same time? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 05:03, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, aren't you a little too far to be doing all this?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 05:12, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but Dinis is already married to a French princess since 1543. If this marriage can't be annulled, you can marry this Bavarian princess to Afonso.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:07, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

So, what do you think about what i said above?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:10, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Dinis has kids, but none of his offspring will outlive him.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:30, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Nothing. i was just trying to warn you of the fact before you planned too much for him as soon as he got to the throne, and i ended up also warning you that the royal marriage that you arranged for Dinis couldn't happen because i had arranged one for him before.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:54, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Calm down, AP. I'm just trying to make sure he doesn't get too angry or leave the game. Don't worry: I care about plausibility more than 'bias' Cosman246 (talk) 01:08, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Stirlings

So long as you have more than 100 edits you can nominate people, timelines, etc. for awards. You've got a number far larger, so yes, you can make nominations on the page, which you can find here. Lordganon (talk) 11:19, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Btw, Al Hamilton was born in the present-day US of A, as I see no reason for him to be in the West Indies at birth. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 23:16, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Venice

I leave on the turn starting in 1565. Just alternate between expanding my economy and military and expand Nuovo Treviso, Nuovo Venexia, Nuovo Firenze and Nuovo Brecsia by 1000sqkm each. If Scandinavia gets into a war, Venice and all my puppets will join. Scandinator (talk) 23:36, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

OK then. Just remember, whatever we do, we have the Qi'fan Russ on our side! Basically, my plan is for you to conquer North Africa and Iberia, while I focus on the Middle East, India, East Africa, and Turkestan. We should do some sort of royal marriage, ex: the only daughter of your Caliph to my heir, or something like that. Then, if the Romans attack me or the Franks attack you, we've got each other. Otherwise it's implausible for us to help each other.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:56, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

on the matter of the personal union, i suggest that you take a look at my nation page, as Afonso already has two children older than the one added in 1559.i just didn't post nothing about it because in Portugal, he's just the Count of Trancoso, not very important.Anyway, next time we'll have to get into a consensus about Garcia and his sucessors, but this will be after 1573.it is on the "current family" section.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:06, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ok final set of instructions, support the Pope against Milan, support Scandinavia against anyone. You have the support of Piedmont, Sicily, Sardinia, Naples, Modena, Siena, Croatia and Venice. Scandinator (talk) 16:03, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

About France and Burgundy land deal.

Technically, I owe the Kingdom of Burgundy land, for them helping out in allowing the Auvergne take back France in this Timeline. (PMII) As a result, I'm in some sort of alliance with them. Though admittedly, I don't know if his country is becoming aggressive to my Kingdom of France. How do you think I should deal with this? Stewdio333 (talk) 06:11, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

I do agree that I shouldn't be taking anyone's crap, I AM the great and powerful France. I want to come to a peaceful agreement, while not giving away too much land. Is it possible just to give a tiny bit of land that would connect Burgundy and the Coastal Colonies, because that's all I think he wants. What's your opinion on this?  Stewdio333 (talk) 06:19, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Map Game Wiki

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Secret Color-Whipping Diplomacy

Like never before. As soon as I'm the Emperor, he plans on leaving the Empire, so we can attack, divide, and conquer.  Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 22:22, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll figure something out.  Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:47, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Scandinavian Borders

Answer

No, they would not do so. Not a word of that could ever actually happen. Lordganon (talk) 06:33, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

New

Well, apparently, i will have to travel today, and only will come back somehwere arounf Wednesday or the day before wednesday, and im not sure if the internet is going to work on my laptop, since it hasn't been working since before yesterday there, so if i am not able to post, you can post for me until i come back.In case this happens, don't involve Portugal in any war unless it is attacked, and basically do what i am doing lately on my posts.I also have already predicted what my part on the next map will look like, so in the colonies, there is what you got to do on expanding: (você vai ter que editar a página para ver.)

All expansion on Pará must be along the Maranhão (OTL Amazonas), all expansion on Cisplatina must be along the Uruguay river and all expansion on São Vicente must be along the Tietê.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:49, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for posting for me during these days, but i still have to correct some things you got wrong on my posts.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 09:45, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for finally informing me which colony is which.Ah, and i updated your colonies.However, i had to do the map in a hurry in 1566 because i wouldn't have time to do it all in 1569, so i had to predict how the colonies would expand, and since Venice's colonies had stopped expanding in 1566, i reduced Venetian expansion.but i added your expansion, but keep in mind that the maximum you can expand is 2000 sq km, not 3000.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:30, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ah.he probably misread the rules. the rules say that if one colony is older than 50 years, that colony has a expansion bonus of 100 sq km, not 1000 sq km.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:14, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, coming back to the issue of the personal union, Afonso X and I's reign will end in 10 years, and then João, his eldest son will become king, and then will die childless, being succeeded by his brother Garcia.since the latter's name is untranslatable (i guess) on Scandinavia, his regnal name there will be Erik. (now if he will be IV or V, i don't know).is 1570, so Garcia is 13 and João is 15. as such, i propose that you decide with who João will marry while i marry Garcia with a Portuguese noble.

P.s. = i saw your nation page.my royal house is Avis, not Bragança.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 10:40, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

AH, this was probbaly becuas i focused most of the expansion on the Nova Scotia colony.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:26, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Radioactive Tide Reloaded!

You're invited to the post-apocalyptic map game, Radioactive Tide Reloaded! It has begun. Bfoxius (talk)

Bavaria is now free in PM2, would you care to ally, I need some bad. Also in anything goes down in medieval World with the Christians, we can invade. those pompous jerksAndr3w777 (talk) 06:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

not Kappelist, I decided to settle for Catholic, due to the politcal climateAndr3w777 (talk) 06:22, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

I believe it is time for a full invasion of the Eastern Empire. They are encroaching on my territory in Siberia and eastern Asia. And they've imprisoned a Muslim. If that isn't a casus belie I don't know what is.Andr3w777 (talk) 15:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

PM2

Hmm. 

Well, I did have a plan. Starting in 1570, I'll have the surviving Russian royal families (ALL of Russia is taken, including Novgorod) start insurrections in their countries- tiny ones. Following this, they officially rebel in 1575, with a 1*5 bonus, and drive them out. Pretty much similar to your plan, then!

The Royal Guns (talk) 20:17, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes, and deal. And thank you.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 00:06, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

1 and 2: OK.

3: Yes.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 18:56, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Stirlings

I do indeed remember that!

Thank you for putting us down for it; a lesser person would have just put themselves as the author, thank you for putting me down as well!

Hope we win, Callumthered (talk) 06:49, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there. We need a few more members for After the Storm (Map Game) so just wondering if you have enough time to participate - thanks. Pavillion (talk) 22:45, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

War of SS

France and Spain really cannot win. Quite frankly, the otl result was in most ways a "win" for them, as the French got their way in Spain - what they went to war over in the first place.

Past that? They can only win in a small way in Europe i.e. they aren't taking anyone over, maybe a few cities change hands, etc. They're more or less screwed anywhere else.

It's a matter of strengths of the individual powers, and overall abilities in the era.

So, winning in the manner that you're meaning? Not at all possible without changes going far back, negating the war anyways.

Lordganon (talk) 14:50, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. I also had another idea, but I believe I trashed it.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 16:56, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Blast From the Past

Confederation of Latin America? It would be nice to start off my comeback to the wiki with that. Why not? I'll join in. Ianian58 (talk) 03:34, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Alrighty, though maybe we should develop ourselves a bit, I definetly need to clean up the liberal and conservative parties in Colombia first which should take a while, so atleast get Sine. Ianian58 (talk) 03:41, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

First I'll start off by saying I love the flag, and then by develop I mean clean out the liberals and conservatives. Because if I don't well let's just say it gets complicated with a 300,000+ dead civil war. Liberals and Conservatives never really got along here. Ianian58 (talk) 04:03, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

First, you are expanding 42 px per turn.i am expanding your colonies on this rate.If you compare the maps of 1570 and 1575 (at least my versions), you will see that they were expanded.As for the Eriksmark, i didn't add because i didn't know where it was located.Your Huron war was invalid because you had no way to reach them.And your colony on Nova Scotia can't enter the St. Lawrence becuse Novgorod is already there.And 42 pixels isn't all that when you take into acccount that chunk of America's size.and what you say about the personal union?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:23, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

You still had no way to reach them.It was decided that a nation couldn't be invaded through waterways not shown entirely on the map. (After all, if one could, then say, Moldavia could invade Austria just by going along the Danube) Anyway, Afonso is going to die in 1580.As such, he is going to be succeeded by his eldest son João (Johan).João will die childless in 1583, as i have already said before.then, João will be succeeded by his brother Garcia, which will be referred to as Erik in Scandinavia as his Portuguese name has no other equivalent there.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 19:53, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

My original plan was Garcia dying in 1622.However, your plan will force my dynasty change to happen way earlier.Originally, i planned for Garcia to have only one son, Duarte, which then, would die with no surviving issue in 1640, with his older sister marrying the Count of Lara, thus starting the rule of the House of Lara in Portugal.

How about thus: Garcia rules until 1587, but his only son doesn't survive him, so he is succeeded by this Karina, which i will refer to as Urraca in Portugal because this name has no equivalent here, as much as you'll refer to Garcia as Erik.She will still marry the future Count of Lara, though.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:16, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it was, but then, since he has wanting this colony on the map since 1560, i added it in 1575, and the other colony i will add this year,as it is 1580.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 21:52, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

An example of table:

Name	Status	Date Established	Most Recent Government Change	OTL Location	Size (px)	Size (Sq Km)
Portugal	Main Nation	1143	1385	Portugal	1868	93,400
Madeira	Colony	1421	1421	Madeira island	16	801
Açores	Colony	1436	1436	Açores islands	47	2,333

Copy all the code that is on this table (you will have to edit the page for that), and replace all information (like, substituting 1436 for 1504) by your own information.the division between one section and other is in the "|-", so when you create a new section, copy from there until before the next one appearing.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:34, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

States of America 5 Reloaded

Hey I'm trying to get the game back up again so join if youre interested

CommanderOfTheFourthReich 01:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

North or South Gibraltar Point, or both. If I get the western coast of Morroco it wouldnt matter to me. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 06:02, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I voted for you, just thought you should know.  Saamwiil, the Humble 18:37, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm totally fine with that, you can have that territory. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 21:12, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Scraw actually already said he was gonna make it, so no worries. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 23:16, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Incas

I'm in. Can I take the northern areas? Scandinator (talk) 01:15, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Really?  Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:19, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Spain's closer than you are. And they did it before the Incans implausibly got some tech from Naples and Burgundy.  Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, Burgundy took care of that. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:29, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, fail. Yeah, we should do something about that. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:31, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Well, you can count me in. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:36, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

I want in too. CourageousLife (talk) 01:44, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

What would this war entail? I thought it was just the Incans. CourageousLife (talk) 01:48, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Burgundy won't be able to topple the government alone and being so far away in a hostile nation then it would rapidly revert to status quo as the Bugundian portion of the Incan Empire collapses within a few years of the war. Scandinator (talk) 03:01, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

You can choose. I don't mind. Scandinator (talk) 11:16, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

My colony is oversized? Nice abuse of powers. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:42, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

This on the Huron people. Nowhere near my colony. Also, it is against the rules to enclose another colony in, which is why Collie expanded your whole colony slowly west instead of just the northern border, which would be cheating. Stop powergaming. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:44, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see how it is. Threatening us for speaking. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:44, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I still advise you to read the article. It would be beneficial to help you learn that your conquest of the Huron is nowhere near my colony. End of story. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:58, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I have an idea. Could you meet me in the chat right now?

Also, about our surviving to the top, my best guess is that we have to take out B right after the HRE collapses (see my proposal on the game talk) and then let the V economy collapse and perhaps cut off their colonies by closing the G. Then we can gang up on F and use A to force our way into C to make an S and then crash P to eliminate all our opponents. R is gone forever now, and we are the best of the best in Europe right now, save for P, which is the tough competition. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 04:25, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I wnet to ask you this, as you are a mod, and i need an second opnion about this, as i've asked Lurker already but i don't think he'll answer:

As you might know Castille's player is inactive in all but name.he is still is up on the player list and has an color on the map.This is the first time that an situation like this happens.the last situation remotely like this (Great Mediterranean war) didn't had the player absent for so long.The question is whether i should treat Castille like a player nation, like he technically is, and he receives no bonus, or treat him as NPC, like he should have been declared by the time in which he spent absent, and he receives a bonus.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:49, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Which colony is New Norway? Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:16, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Unlimited map games wiki.

Hey would you like to come check out Unlimited map games wiki. It is a website that will have no limitations on mapgames (Time,Nations,ETC) I hope you enjoy!The old baby (talk) 21:31, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Now. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 04:09, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

If Brandenburg gives a tough time ot the Indians, the revolts will spread over into your territority more violently than they what they would have otherwise been. (If he decides to keep fighting them, though he's going to loose because it not 1590 and he control territory which I judge to be larger than OTL New York.  Saamwiil, the Humble 04:33, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Colonies for Sale

The colonies are now up for sale. Additionaly, I'm asking for assistance in recapturing the rebellious southern provinces. CourageousLife (talk) 17:33, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

The NPC nation is assumed to being either developing its economy, infrastructure or military for the last 15 years.if no events hit the nation for the last 15 years, so they developed 5 times each part.so, this 5 is divikded by two and rounded to three. there's a better explanation on the archives.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:14, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, although don't forget that some of them will try to rebel, like Manco Inca and Tupac Amaru did.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:30, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, i planned for her to reign until 1630.by which time she'll be 71.Although Victoria reached 82.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:56, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

But she was born in 1819.she would have died with 91 if she had died in 1910.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 09:03, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Okay.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:21, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Colonies

I forgot I had them for a while, thanks for reminding me. Yes I woyld be interested in conducting north european policy together. I would start by having scandinavia have novgorod become its biggest trade partner and join RETA(Russo-European Trade Alliance), the successor to the Hansa, witch was taken over by me when venice tried to disolve it. We can rename it NETA afterwards(North-European Trade Alliance) or soemthing of the sort if you dont like being part of the Russo-European alliance because it makes you look like a junior partner or something. THe RETA, as successor to the Hansa, took control of its navy. and that shouyld have been updated. I wouldnt mind some help killing great perm though...-Lx ^{(leave me a message)} 01:29, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Could you mention your support of the Mayans in your next turn, please?! My algorithm is, literally, down to the wire!! CourageousLife (talk) 21:44, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay, nevermind, thanks! CourageousLife (talk) 23:49, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

No offense or anything, but my nation has harmed no one. Yes we push our banking and trade areas, but that harms no one. It isn't right to pick on someone because they are slightly irritating My nation is a nuetral nation, and the whole idea of splitting apart people of the same ethnicity is perposterous. It isn't equitable nor fair. If I annoy, I will limit it but for goodness sake don't ruin my nation.Andr3w777 (talk) 06:37, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Since I am not considered a mod: Can you enact my idea. Sine agreed to allow some of the Johanist to eneter his Burgundy, so that part is settled. They just need to be written.  Saamwiil, the Humble 22:48, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:02, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Nations established exclave like that all the time. Besides, you can just expand around my southern border. I'm only aiming for Michigan. Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

When the hell are you going take the time to look at the map? Huh? Because you don't border them. Collie said the exclave is fine, and it's staying there. I am invading the Ohio people. And, I don't have to border them, as I can reach them by water, via the Mississippi and the Ohio.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:35, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I have an idea. This could work out for us. You keep Pennsylvania and the OTL US southern states (as much as you can get), and I take the old Northwest Territory (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, that stuff). However, this will only work if you cede me that weird looking panhandle that goes up to Lake Erie. In exchange, I will give you something else.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 01:51, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take the 2px.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:10, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, I don't know. Something along the ridiculously uneven border?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 02:15, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ohio.

And stop messing with the algorithm. It's fine. Three people went through it.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 03:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

AxisVAllies reborn

• It's a who grabs what now. I grabed to save the Aussies since Germany is taking over the world with out question.The River Nile-2 (talk) 09:04, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
• The Dutch Goverment  in exile  to the Duch East Indies (Aussie client) now runs a state in most of  OTL Indonisia.The River Nile-2 (talk) 20:17, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

PM II

The Satomi clan shall accept your trade offer. -Kogasa 2013年1月27日 07:30:23 (JST)

Hey I have a few questions in regards to Britain in PM. As you know I am the ruler of Bavaria. Is it possible in the future for me to leave Bavaria and assume control of Britain? I'm referring of course to if I were attacked and get annexed, I wouldn't want to leave the game, and currently Britain is a mash of NPC's I very meuch would like to see a strong Britain as that didn't happen in the first PM.Andr3w777 (talk) 19:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Neu Berlin offers Nya Norge a deal. If you cease expansion north along the Great Lake and into OTL Michigan, we will cease expansion that hampers the westwards expansion of Nya Norge.

Essentially, as per our old deal, which we never followed through with, you expand south and take as much of the OTL US South as you can get. You can also expand west along the south of Ohio/Myami, which I do not plan on expanding.

Deal?

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! 21:45, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

As long as the Scotland and the rest of your vassals aren't more than half the size of Scandinavia then the rules allow that. You can go a bit over half but your vassal territories can't be larger than your main nation. I'd advise you enquire with Lurk beforehand though, just in case if things get ugly. Which I doubt, but its always good to ask permission. VonGlusenburg ^{(talk to Von!)} 02:19, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Still ask, give him some time. He said he'd post when he remembers so he can't mod effectively any more. So just ask him so he isn't unpleasantly surprised when he returns to find his nation destroyed. VonGlusenburg ^{(talk to Von!)} 18:32, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely.                ♒"Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  19:46, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I was actually, but some crazy person said that I can't send troops where nobody asked for them. Which makes no sense at all. Sending troops where they aren't wanted can be equated to invasion. I can't invade?

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  00:00, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Do you want to smash, crack, and pop some of the British nations later? I think we should take on nations like Wales and Northumbria together. Thoughts?

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  02:37, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Deal.

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  02:57, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

First, one thing that i didn't told you about: you can't found a city in OTL Lima, because i'm sure that OTL Lima is on Chimu territory, second, you didn 't informed me what lands you would take, third, since the Aymará are in dark grey, you could just expand your colony into there.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 19:48, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that vassalizing a bunch of tribes, particularly the inland ones , would be easy.especially in only three years.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 22:29, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Coming back to speak (i had to sleep, so i didn't respond your last comment), now in personal union issues: can i decide with who Urraca/Carina's sons will marry with? i already defined with who the third will marry days ago.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Join Chat?

Hello, I was wondering if you could join chat? I have an idea I'd like to run across you. Thanks,

Inspired By KFB(Suzon) (talk)

PMII Central and European Trade Monopoly

To the Emperor of Scandinavia. The Doge of Venice, Angelo Benedetti wishes to propose an exchange of territories with Scandinavia. In return for Venetian help (coalition war) in a joint Scandi-Venetian invasion of the Netherlands and the full annexation of the rich and powerful Dutch lands including the crucial ports of Antwerp, Rotterdam and Amsterdam to Scandinavia; Venice would like to purchase Gibraltar and Western Cuba. Thus allowing Scandinavia full control of trade in Germany and the Northern half of Eastern Europe. Deal? We can also throw in most of OTL Belgium to convince Burgundy to join the war if we need. Scandinator (talk) 12:39, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Italy and its 10 alies promise support against Spain and ask for aid in defeating South Afica in the future. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

Again, you are not a mapmaker, you are not supposed to just post another map (that is almost exactly like mine, but with an different name).if there is need for correction, There is a "Upload new version of this file" option on the pre-existing file page.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:21, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

If you're gonna help in the war, would you mind making the algorithm. So far Aragon has sent MV for sure. Willster22 (User talk:Willster22) 02:58, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

What i'm trying to say is, you can keep editing, but don't put your editions under a different name, as then we'll have two almost equal maps.as i already said thrice, you just need to select the "Upload new version" on the pre-existing file.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:14, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Spanish-CoLA Talks

Look, we Spainards know that CoLA does not like us, since you look down on our fascist ways, but we will respect your neutrality, and would not attack your nation, unless you attacked first. Our beef is mostly with the U.S. and Sweden, and we will respect your wishes, and apologize for the nuclear test 500 km northeast to the Venezeulan Coast. It was just bad timing, okay? Stewdio333 (talk) 04:12, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Don't listen to the Fascist Spainiards (and Germans), they will start attacking you when they finished the US and Sweden and Canada and Italy and etc.

Denmark? Is that you? Anyways, we said we would respect CoLA's neutrality, plus, I see that both of us share a common enemy. We have said that as long as the SAD promises to let us keep their oil, they would receive independence politically, and have their own laws. We don't know how Germany would react over these political talks, but they would be happy to hear that a major threat could be crushed. Stewdio333 (talk) 04:33, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

We will help you bring down Italy if you want. We can all gang up on it. We hate it, you hate it, the US hates it, what's really left, eh?

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  04:35, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes, that is me, Stewdio333. Denmark. Have YOU ever noticed what fascists do in real life? Have you read what fascism is? One element of fascism is a foreign policy inspired by the myth of national power and greatness, with the goal of imperialist expansion. Goal of the foreign policy is imperialist expansion. See. You mustn't have read what fascism is. Regards, Laptop Zombie 04:41, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

I'm starting de-con mod events.

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  04:50, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Well taking Haiti wasn't really helping with the planned peaceful expansion, but I appreciate the gesture. I'll try to work along with you instead of fight. Really I respect you, its just the simple things I whine about. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 06:23, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

AVArb

Australia was going to giving up it's empire, but I will accelerate this. We only want 5 nukes for a last ditch weapon and will do tests for several more years, unlike others, that have hundreds all ready. I am dabbling in space, but have far from launched anything (I reckoned on 1960-61). Italy defied OTL, when It annexed Ethiopia, prior to WW2. Canada was picking on the USA. The AU winning is a bit weird to say the least. Franco is not as daft as to start WW3 or blackmail the USA. Apart from 4 ex-French states, Portugal, Liberia, Ireland, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Australian Indochina, The Middle East, Bolivia, Central America and W. Indonesia, it's all conquered by 1953! I put on the talk page empires were out of date [Unabashed imperialism], that we should turn to stuff like space and earlier gave up W. Indonesia! Australia is running to keep up. We are scared. I'm allied to vertuly every one, as is every one else like OTL Europe prior to WW1. I think most want a rapid plunge to WW3. Let them, and condemn the fools with a scenario like Doomsday 1983. As there lands burn the Swiss, Aussies, NZ, Cuba, CoLA and India can laugh at them and win as the only serving nations. Sorry, I just felt like venting of some venom about some problems. Thanks for the revolt in China, but it should be a bit slower, or perhaps someone in the USSR is helping them. I don't want Tibet joining China since the Tibetans OTL hate Chinese (who then OTL conquered it in 1955-6) and others have mentioned E. Turkestan had ATL joined the USSR and so is probably for going it's own way and not wanting to revert to China.Your O.K.! PS- I've got a novel OTL civil plan for 1955.5 and I don't want to harm your nation, so try and protect your commodity sector (metals, diamonds, etc) from some price fluctuations. Hint, hint. The River Nile-2 (talk) 18:36, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Chats

what type of chat?-Lx ^{(leave me a message)} 22:38, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Land of Opprotunity

At least post the stuff on the correct section on my talk page, you just posted in the Congress of Vienna section, also I don't think it would be ASB - Random, maybe ASB - Wars or something like that Daxus Inferno (talk) 03:49, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

No, you still put your correction map under another file name.Now, i'm going to have to upload your map to the pre-existing file.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:50, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Deal Scandinator (talk) 01:19, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Bavarian Industrialization

Hey, why isn't Bavaria listed, it has plenty of universities, the inventor of the optical telescope resides there, my nation is stable with no government changes in quite a while, I have plenty of resources yet I am being ignored?Andr3w777 (talk) 05:12, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

About both PMII and AvARb.

Alright, as long as OPEC recognizes Spain as a member, partly to mend ties with CoLA, which despite recent aggression between our two states, we respect CoLA's neutrality. (AvARb)

Also, didn't know I could reach the colonies at this point. Can they still expand if there's no contact with the homeland, France? And aren't you on Luxembourg and Germany's side? (PMII)

Stewdio333 (talk) 23:25, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry to butt in, but I must object to the utmost of my abilities to creating a rule that prevents non-mods from editing the map. In the original Principia Moderni, that was initially a rule, until problems not unlike those we have with Collie started to rise, which led to the creation of the rule that said anyone can edit the map. If someone undoes your change, copy and paste the exact location of your changes onto their map.

Example: If User X uploads a map fixing Canada, but then User Y undoes that and fixes Asia, User X should copy the changes in Canada and put them on the new map.

Simple.

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  05:14, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

I do think i remember that you used to upload your correction maps into the pre-existing files.i already have told you four times to not post your correction maps as a file with a different name.so why are you insisting on posting your corrections as if they were new maps entirely?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:02, February 22, 2013 (UTC) http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Axis_vs_Allies:_The_Last_Round_(Map_Game)

join us, we have tacos

DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It

From what i saw, i don't think your colonies wee ignored in the last map.Nya Sverige does look smaller than you think it should be, but this is why some years ago, i confused Nya Sverige with Nya Denmark and started to expand your expansion for Nya Sverige there.And plus, you yorself said that estabilishing a colony on Australia on the 17th century is implausible, so why you "estabilished" a colony on Australia?and right in a remote area that wasn't explored until the 1850's?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:06, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Again, i don't think that there is any difference on your expansion from Von's map to mine, so i brought both to compare:

500px --Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:29, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not exactly a successor. The royal family began with a radical hindu general in the army. Could we halve it, cause I really want the country to fall and get some territory out of it...  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 19:42, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

LOL, I was talking about going to war with it too. So maybe you go to war with it, and I contact you to see if Orissa would be able to invade and get territory too.

Then I would invade and maybe we could get 33% of it in one war maybe? :D Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 00:36, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I don't know if that will work. I was looking to expand east using Bengal as a springboard. I'll win against the small states in due time, but help would be appreciated indeed.  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 00:47, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

What is this mod event I have to respond to in 1624? I couldn't see anything that I'm supposed to respond to. Stewdio333 (talk) 22:43, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

I very much appreciate this. If it matters at all, it being a Chinese vassal may not last long. Since Manchuria isn't mine, there's no Quing Dynasty. I have to make up my own dynasty and the Ming Dynasty's getting old. All this wealth is going to get to China's head. While it may not seem like it, this is the beginning of the end for the Ming Dynasty. When this emperor dies, there are going to be some crappy emperors and cocky generals that'll do Ming in. Just trying to be interesting with it. It'll drop some of its vassals, including Malacca, in the dynasty change. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 04:38, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hey AP, I got an idea. My Raja could send out alliances offers to Scandinavia after it puppetises Bengal - but not after a clever masterstroke by moi. In a couple years, the Raja would hire investigators to see where his family originated from. He would be "suprised" to learn he has Vijaynagar Royal blood (he would suspect it since he became of age), and he would then look into former Vijaynagar actions, and would decide to send an alliance to Scandinavia, or "renewing it" in his eyes.

I dont care if it is you, or Scotland, or China who cares, im still gaining Cornwall

Sumatra and Stuff

Now I know that you have said I could be allied with you, but Orissa isn't exactly a successor state to Vijaynagar - cause we broke away from the Bengalis. So, just a bit of roleplay. And btw, although I have only stated it once in-game, Mataram/Orissa has interests in Sundabang and its vassal Jambi.  So if you could stay away from it, it would be much appreciated. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 23:04, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, they do have territory on Java itself, so I will be invading them. Maybe after I conquer them we could work out a land grant ;) No seriously, we might be able to swap areas of Bengali and Sumatran territories. And anyway, I won't be going after Malacca, so after China loses its vassals, Malacca will be all yours. I will not object to anything next to Malacca also being taken over by you. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 12:53, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. I have acted accordingly. If you wish to join the war, I am willing to give you south Malacca when it's vassalized. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 00:40, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

I would like Java and a bit of Sundebang on Sumatra man. Ok, not all of it - but some. In return, I will join you in a coalition (so you get my whopping population advantage and my proximity to the war).

And mate, a few of us are getting a bit annoyed at you becuase of the way you are acting on PMII :L  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:54, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Could you please show me where? And mate, I let you puppetise Bengal, why cannot you let me do the same for the Dutch. You have like 2 or 3 puppets around the world, so could you let me keep the Netherlands?  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 07:54, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

BTW, we still going to invade Sundebang?  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 22:32, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Erm, I'm pretty sure that Eurpoean and Indian tech were at similar levels before the Mughal Emperor Arunzeb. And you said that my puppetisation was bad, look at your one. You do not ahve the population base. Your population would be 1 million combined, if you are lucky. And Collie did state that your puppetisation of the Incas was not allowed, check map problems if u don't believe me. Fine, I'll just get Java then.  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 12:46, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Well now. I'm very sorry then. I didn't know that. :( Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:28, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yäwah Wäjäb (Port-Gentil) and Wärqama (Namibe). Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:41, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. Butt seriously, we cant be any poorer than cornwall, and Wales is kind of overexpanding

Okay.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 06:59, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

And back Wales if you like, I will still hold firm on my plans

Okay. Yäwah Wäjäb is where OTL Port-Gentil, Gabon is, and Wärqama is where Namibe, Angola is located. 00:59, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok man. Its a deal. BTW, I had no clue you could speak so many languages, I ENVY you!! :P  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:02, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

BTW, could you make a mod event for it please, because it would not be recognised as falling into civil-disarray otherwise. :L Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 15:15, March 10, 2013 (UTC) 

Spread of communism revised

If you would like, i would like to take the USSR.  25px25px OreoToast555(Talk) 21:00, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Question abou PM II

Hey, its me Taco. I had a question about PM II and it said you were a mod. Do we need to create a profile page for our country? And if we do, what category(ies?) do I put it in.

Thanks in advance.TacoCopper (talk)

Thanks for the welcome back. Is there a specific model that I should follow, or can I just customize it my own way?

Thanks again for the help.TacoCopper (talk)

Cool. Would you look at it and see if it is good? I'll add more as more events happen, but it has only been three turns, so i haven't had much to write about. Here is the link: Poland (Principia Moderni II)

TacoCopper (talk)

Eh, I'll do that later. I sorta forgot how to do some stuff on here. Anyways, thanks once again for the help. TacoCopper (talk)

Hey can you check the moderator page for PM please? We're trying to make a decision but we need your input to the decision making process. VonGlusenburg ^{(talk to Von!)} 16:34, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Up to you, really. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 19:37, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

V

We need to do something about the Vs. As we both know and must admit, V is quickly gaining on the power of the states of the GC. We need to join with others, if we're lucky, and crumble them. The Vs somehow seize everything we aim for in our minds and take it as their own. We must prevent this at all costs. Let the bells of warning be rung.

(I hope you understand this.)

                SCRAWLAND INVICTUS || REX IMPERATOR   02:51, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

PMII

So, I realize that the Mayans aren't the most plausible nation on Earth. I want to try and change that, because I see that I'm rubbing the mods the wrong way. Do you have some suggestions for actions that you would consider plausible for me to do right now? CourageousLife (talk) 20:08, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking about the Miskito as well, but if you want them, go ahead and have them. CourageousLife (talk) 17:33, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Night of the Living Alternate History

I invite you to participate in the Night of the Living Alternate History. There are many nations still available, and we should be starting soon. Mscoree (talk) 17:17, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

About the personal union again, since my latest monarch (Garcia II) has a difficult name for Scandinavians, what should be his regnal name there?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:10, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

re:PMII Stuff

While Hong Kong, Macau, and Hainan will not be sold, I would like to propose a counter offer, but before doing so, I need to know if you're on good terms with Venice. If not, I have some proposals that would benefit you, me, and many others. In addition, I would like to open an exclusive trade line with Bengal, guarded from pirates and the like. CrimsonAssassin (talk) 17:25, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Dijon Meeting

its supposed to be a discussion of my plausible areas of Expansion without intruding your ,Germany's or Venice's Expansions on Europe or your allies and i want to call me France Burgundy, until the Burgundian Population is fully merged,with the french again, because after the war some level of North Korean like Nationalism, Even towards france, though after the fifth turn from the union i will be called France only Sine dei gloriem (talk) 15:22, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Can you post for me for about a week untill I come back from a camping trip? All I want done is negociations with netherlands to purchase Dutch Antillia(which I should surround), Alternating military and economic developpement, and alternating expansion of Kanada and Novorossiya by 4000sq km each. if you want you can do stuff with Minsk or my vassals, just make sure that you make them send grain to Russia, is that ok?-Lx ^{(leave me a message)} 15:51, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Re: New Map Games

Well, I would be happy to start up a new map game, but which one. I had one going a while back that we could do, but it starts at basically the start of civilization. Or we could do ones that are more familiar, like TEvsCP or Viva.

What do you think?

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:10, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I did have a system for figuring all that stuff out, but most of it is forgotten now I think. There is also another map game, Basileus Dadiocha (not quite, but close enougth) that's about the remains of Alexander's empire and the rise of Rome. We could help move that along as well.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:17, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

That would be good, but we should ensure more mods like scraw first.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:23, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

I already have.

Monster Pumpkin (talk) 23:26, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Swedish names

Sorry about that.

I'm like the English professor in the Men's Room:

I don't write on the walls.

I just correct the spelling and grammar.

EoGuy (talk) 14:52, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

for some reason I can't post pictures of any sort on the wiki, it keeps saying "permission error" I'm making a page and want to put my pictures on it.Andr3w777 (talk) 05:00, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

So, now that you are expanding legitimately on the Aymarás, and i would be interested on a certain part, given my colony is getting closer to there, what if we try to split them?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 08:34, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Miskito

Are you still planning on going to war with Miskito? CourageousLife (talk) 21:02, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wait what no why

Why are you leaving the wiki? CrimsonAssassin (talk) 06:00, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

I hope I didn't run you off.

If so, I apologize.

EoGuy (talk) 06:31, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

SOCrelo

Hey! Remember this game? Well, I was bored and deccided to remake it.

Join.

No, really. Join.

(Guns, who is too lazy to write out his sig)

Welcome Back

Hi AP,

Welcome back to the wiki. Last time I talked to you was in PM2, when I also took a hiatus (rage quits suck, I have learned.)

If you need anything, message me on my talk page or join me in chat. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 02:37, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

DAMN! AP! Long time! I kinda left the wiki for a few months after the PM2 incident, and missed you leaving entirely!

Welcome back. Great to see SOMEONE coming back.

           Tonight the foxes will hunt the hounds!  22:15, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Other people have welcomed you back on the PM3 page, I believe. 

If you have any ideas, feel free to throw them at me, and we can see what we can do. I have ideas for TEvCP, and another AvA is apparently in the works as well. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 22:19, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, I will see how other games go, and if the situation is favorable, we can work on anotehr TEvCP.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 22:23, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

PM2 died in the 1900s thanks to rampant implausibility.

PM3 is currently on, but its not going fantastically. I left because I'm only semi-active at this point and cannot post everyday.

Scraw, like me, has gone semi-active, only to a much greater extent. Ditto Imp.

That said, I can become more active for TEvCP or AvA, lol...

Any ideas you and MP have with those two, count me in (probably) though in a supporting role.

           Tonight the foxes will hunt the hounds!  23:39, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. I think the nation list should be more or less still accurate, and for an algo I think we should use Pita's latest from Axis vs. Allies, which has always worked in the past. We will probably need a system for determining tiers of power for nations, and I don't know if we should stick to what we did before or try a new system. Thoughts?

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 01:17, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

True. I'll leave you to your work for now, ask me if you want my opinion on anything. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 01:23, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, TEvCP is one of the few map game franchises I never played (might, actually, be the only one).

Whatever you guys think should be fine. I can help out with the algo best.

           Tonight the foxes will hunt the hounds!  03:26, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

I can't seem to find the map, but what I think we should do is just go with a fresh map from the start, something that I can be responsible for. I will look over the algo when you make changes. Should I open up applications for modship now?

Also, while now isn't a good time, you should head over to chat sometime. While it can get messy in there, it is a great way of quickly communicating with people over issues. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 20:55, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Hey AP! Welcome back man. Good to see you back here after your haitius. :)  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 09:26, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Mexican Revolution

Mind if i kick off the revolution somewhere along between 03-05 rather than waiting until 10. Id much rather 1 get it over with and 2, i have a good series of events that could lead to this sort of earlier revolution. The Wings of Freedom #FP (Talk to Me)

Did you decide who will be assassinated yet? If not, can I help?

                SCRAWLAND INVICTUS || REX IMPERATOR   00:08, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

AP, talk to me when you have the chance.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 02:01, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Did Ed speak to you about his request? He wants to know if it would be ok for him to take Russia in TEvCP, but since there is already a player there (albeit an implausible one), I want to know your thoughts about it first.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 02:13, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Hello

Dude, I thought you disappeared forever. How have you been? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:45, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Why thank you. I'm happy to see that you were able to return after your departure two years ago. Hopefully you'll be able to stick around this time. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 01:56, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Hey can I join the president game LibertyPrime318 (talk) 22:56, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Presidential Election Game

I would be very much intrested in a Q&A forum. I say go for it.

Regards, Sat ^{(Talk to me!)} 02:46, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Sat.

Sithlent (talk) 03:04, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Polls

Thanks for the info AP. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 05:55, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Presidential Election Game

I am, but I sometimes forget to do stuff like answer questions (I did the first set of questions the day that it was due in).

Thanks,

Awesome history 28 (talk) 08:02, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Hola!

Hey man how have you been? It really has been a while since I saw you frequent these pages. Hope you stick around for a bit and get back into the groove of things. Good to see you back!  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 20:48, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Presidential Election Game

Hi! Well, I got your message, and honestly, I'm perfectly okay with the way the game is right now. I doN,t have that much time to allow to the game, and your idea would require a lote of time and participation from everyone. And I doubt I'm the only one who won't be able to keep with more.

So yeah, as long as Vatonica post his things when he said he would, I,m perfectly okay the way the game is. 

Zamarak500 (talk) 23:05, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

You are right, but I'm not entirely sure what we can do at this point. If Vat has decided to leave the game be, then I don't see what other option there is other than take it from him and run it or start a new one, neither of which I have enough time for. If you have ideas and want to propose them, go right ahead and I'll support you as best I can. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 19:03, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

I'll try reaching out to him and see what he says, otherwise I think the only thing we can really do at the present moment is keep interest alive, although I do realize that will be difficult to do with passing deadlines and little mod activity. If we get no word from him in a while, we might have to consider the game dead, but we'll see. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 00:47, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, AP. I'd like to thank you for taking the reins at the Presidential Election Game, and I'd like to ask you a few questions/favors. First, I am looking forward to hearing back from endorsements, which were promise almost a month ago and can really add a neat element to this game. I asked for the following specific endorsements from Vatonica some time back, and I'll post them here for convenience:

Here is a basic collection of the reasons why that would be presented to all endorsers, and I'll provide additional details for each personage:

• Luke Recks is a proven Libertarian with a real opportunity to win the Presidential Election of 2016 - a sentence that many had never though possible but now very real. He has a great amount of experience and name recognition, having served as Mayor of Manchester, Representative of New Hampshire's 1st District, Governor of New Hampshire (for two terms), and currently as Senator from New Hampshire. Recks consistently agrees with the libertarian ideals of smaller government and less interference into the economic and personal lives of American citizens. Of all candidates, Recks has the highest name recognition and is tied with a Republican Representative for the greatest legitimacy of all candidates - the first time a Libertarian has had this opportunity. More importantly, he is more trustworthy than his Libertarian opponent and is just as likeable.
  • Ron Paul - Recks is a true libertarian with a strong conservative background. Much like yourself, he was dedicated to the Republican Party until the welfare/warfare state intruded too heavily into the party's ideology. Since then, he has been the loudest supporter in Washington for small government.
  • Rand Paul - Serving with Recks in the US Senate, we have been vocal opponent of drone usage on US soil, the PATRIOT Act, NSA bulk collection of metadata, and other personal freedoms issues. Furthermore, we are both supporters of the free markets and opponents of regime change foreign policy.
  • Christopher Cotton - Luke Recks is best poised to expand upon your 2008 successes and bring a Libertarian to the White House and onto the debate stage. Recks lies comfortably between the two major parties and is able to bring consensus to the political atmosphere while advancing the Libertarian agenda of smaller government.
  • Gary Johnson - Like Johnson, Recks has been both a Republican and a Libertarian. Upset by the welfare/warfare state that consumes both major parties, he hopes to follow on your 2012 successes and win states' electoral votes while making it onto the debate stage - a big issue that you have supported in the past. Recks also advances non-interventionism and an immediate balanced budget.
  • Jesse Ventura - One of the most outspoken critics of the two-party system in Washington currently is Senator Luke Recks. He will advance the causes that Governor Ventura fights so valiantly for, include tax simplification and drug legalization. Recks is also able to, as Ventura was, bridge party lines to create a libertarian consensus among policy-makers.
  • Lew Rockwell - Recks' involvement with Rockwell extends to the 1974 Royalton Conference on Austrian Economics. Both men are disciples of the late Murray Rothbard and both are "anti-state, anti-war, pro-market." Recks has regularly aided Rockwell's Mises Institute and believes that Austrian Economics, coupled with political paleolibertarianism, is the best way forward for the United States.
  • Alex Jones - Like Alex Jones, Luke Recks has pledged himself to taking on Big Brother. Both ardently support gun rights and are vehemently opposed to the coalition of big business and big government to create a New World Order. The government's use of hysteria has regularly been higlighted by Recks, who has joined Jones at anti-Federal Reserve rallies.
  • Nick Gillespie - Like Gillespie, Recks is highly dedicated to the pursuit of a free and reasonable society. He often contributes to op-eds in Reason, and will focus as President upon transparency with the media and public - a promise Walker has failed to maintain.
  • Glenn Beck - Like Beck, Recks is a libertarian conservative. Personal responsibility forms the backbone of both men's beliefs, and Recks is dedicated to maintaining government within the strictest confines of the Constitution. Also like Beck, Recks supports the freedom of movement and has left the Republican Party due to its weaknesses in addressing the most important issues of our time.
  • Greg Gutfeld - Luke Recks, like Gutfeld, is opposed to the two-sided portrayal of modern American politics. The moralizing nature of the left and right, versus the reasonable middle-way presented by libertarianism, is teh catalyst of division in our system, and Recks is poised to bridge the gap as President, being the most trustworthy, recognizable, and legitimate Libertarian candidate
  • Judge Andrew Napolitano - Like the Judge, Luke Recks believes in a limited government. Recks also has the opportunity to pursue the libertarian agenda on a national stage, and with enough support will be able to debate with the two main parties. Recks is also a vocal critic of the handling of civil liberties by both the left and right during the War on Terror.
  • John Stossel - The two men know each other well, as Senator Recks is a common face on Stossel and Stossel is a supporter of the Free State Project, largely led by Senator Recks. Both men are opposed to corporate welfare and crony capitalism, as well as other restrictions on free markets including bans on gambling and ticket scalping.
  • Celebrities (Penn and Teller, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, Drew Carey, Vince Vaughn, and Bruce Willis) - Each message will be targetted to the individual celebrity, with focuses ranging from the broken two-party system, limited government, legalization of drugs, gun rights, media censorship, and the stupidity of big government. They will also target the electability of Luke Recks, his name recognition, and his trustworthiness being greater than that of any other Libertarian candidate for office.

Thank you very much for taking care of all of these endorsements for me! The sooner individuals choose to endorse, the better, and I'd be happy to answer any concerns they may express.

Secondly, I'd just like to question why my poll ratings were downgraded in Iowa. I'd like to point out that I have high name recognition and trustworthiness than Ron Jones, two important factors for early state voters (while being the same in legitimacy and likability). Further, I was leading by the last measurement, so the 12 point loss in support must be the result of something, in which case I wonder what it was. Jones hasn't posted anything about his campaign, and if the primaries were held when scheduled, it would have been as though Jones hadn't campaigned yet. I could only think perhaps you got your numbers turned around, but I'd be happy to hear what I can do to improve.

Thank you once again for taking the lead on this great game. I really appreciate the effort it takes to run this kind of a program, and the wiki is better for it. Reximus | Talk to Me! 04:06, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to argue too extensively with you over early polls, but I think that the reasons you've provided aren't good enough to explain (and while I don't care if you revise the polls now, I'd appreciate a noticeable future change). You bring up the fact that Jones is 8 years older than Recks. I'd point out that that span is really insignificant in most cases, and could actually hurt jones as 62% of the Libertarian Party is under 50 and 25% are under the age of 30 (meaning that a younger and more youthful candidate would actually have a better shot at the nomination).

You also bring up experience; Recks has over 25 total years in public service, Jones has 14. Recks has 7 years in Congress, Jones has 6. Recks has 8 years as Governor, Jones has 8 as well. (The difference is 12 years in local government.) Recks also has greater name recognition in Iowa, which should give him a good boost.

The Washington insider argument is easily dispelled as Libertarians are well educated and close-followers of politics. 70% of Libertarians have a college education, versus 70% of the mainstream population that don't have a college degree. This is a huge difference between the LP and the mainstream, and would reflect in them understanding that Recks isn't an "establishment" figure (as this tendency largely results from the under-educated members of society, á la Donald Trump supporters).

I would further point out (for future polls) that Jones has yet to (1) reply to the Omaha terror attack (which explicity took place near Iowa), (2) reply to how he is running his campaign (so these attack lines haven't even been used), and (3) finish the debate (which expired, so he cannot add anything else). All of this taken into account, I think it is fair to say that Recks should've expanded his 2-point lead in Iowa, not gotten to a 6-point trailing. Any 8-point swing is substantial, and I see no reason for this swing.

As for endorsements, I think it is fair to say that reaching out to people on a personalized basis is a big step forward (and more than any other candidate has done). That should at least count for something. Thank you, and I don't mean for this to come off as attacking you, but rather trying to show you the inner-workings of Libertarian politics (which I personally follow really closely). Reximus | Talk to Me!