Talk: Commandante Lemming

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Welcome

Hello and welcome to the wikia. I am Hailstormer and i play as the Koori Union. I have noticed you have chosen the same path that i chose by picking a tribal people to start with. However i am happy to say that my experiance playing as them so far has been fun, and as you may know i have successfully formed a functioning nation. Since this is your first map game i would suggest you have a look at my first turns to see how to manage and unite a tribal people. I think they will help you and hopefully give you some ideas on how to expand and grow. Feel free to message me if you want to discuss anything and i hope you enjoy the game. Hailstormer (talk) 00:33, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Actually collie has been making a lot of the maps. We both cover each other but currently he is doing most of the work. Scandinator (talk) 09:05, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.

Hi. Welcome to the wiki. I am David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk). I follow PMII with intrest. Your posts, whilst very serious, are more oftern that not highly amusing also, in the best possible way. Thank you.

Info. ;)

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:23, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I figure if I'm tiny, I might as well have fun with it. May you be granted many guanacos! :-P Commandante Lemming (talk) 08:52, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi again. I'll drop you a handy hint. It is best to reply on the other person's talkpage (Title it Re: Whatever) as then they know you've replied. Some people think it rather offensive to reply on your own talkpage, though I don't. Oh and if you need a hand researching llarmars just give me a buzz. I love biology. David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:10, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine. That's why I let you know, before one of the Admins bites your ear off! (Just kidding - they're nice really). Of course not. Whilst hearding Guanaco's and llama's is indeed fun it will not grant you a massive economy (though look at the the Wool Trade in England). As for info on llamars ... odd. My usual site (EOL) appears not to have a lot. They are usually very reliable.  I shall consult my books... (This could take a while - a few days - or no time at all).

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 16:27, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

K. And wow. You know how to write! That 1714 post with the king being baptised...  :) Very good. Here's to St. David of Atlantia (as opposed to St David of Wales)  I may join as the Papal states or whatever land the pope has left (if it's playable) simply to turn him into a saint.

David Rain (Sometimes...) (talk) 10:52, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Borders

So, what borders were you thinking? I'm planning to expand up into OTL Chile, if it's all right. Should there be any other tribes I should watch out for? I don't want to end up attacking a tribe that might be your ally for example. -Kogasa 2013 May 13, 12:44 (CET)

I accepted your border proposals. Anyway, I'll be glad to help you out if needed, and I'm sure we'll be good trading partners in the near future. Also, you'll soon have contact with other nations down the road, so don't worry. -Kogasa 2013 May 14, 03:21 (CET)

I was thinking that I would expand into the whole of the Falklands. You really do not need the Falklands as a stopping point into the islands of South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands. With that being said, I would be happy to make you a strong deal: You provide five dozen guanaco and agree to leave the Falklands, and we will pay you with 4 ships of the line. Not only that, but I will allow - nay, encourage - Selk'nam settlement on the Malvinas provided they accept Welsh government. Reximus55 (talk) 09:28, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

We honor your right as a nation, yet we you to not get too cozy with the Netherlands. We are both rivals in our region, and often compete with each other. It would greatly harm our own relations. In addition, Aquitaine is soon to be divided between me and Germany, so it would be advisable to stand by on that ground. I have no real previous experience with Japan, so our future relations will be entirely positive. Reximus55 (talk) 20:19, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Come on Talk, and I'll let you know. Reximus55 (talk) 21:14, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

I plan on expanding into the North on the West coast of OTL Tierra del Fuego, since it's still open. -Kogasa 2013 May 30, 12:29 (CET)

Can you Post...?

Hey! Can you post for me whilst I am away for the next week?

I'd really appreciate it if you could! Feel free to do whatever cultural things you would like to my nation. This is my base post, so if you could use this:

• Wales continues to grow its economy and build a stronger military. Population continues to grow. Welsh emissaries are sent to the Chono people, and begin to show them the benefits of life with the Welsh. We also point to our great relations with the Selk'nam to show how well we treat native Atlantians. We discuss vassilization.
• England, Scotland, Belfast, Cork, and Brittany grow their militaries and economies. Population growing policies remain in place, and Welsh culture continues to make a lot of progress in its continued spread. The WTC oversees the expansion of De Mor Tir 3000 sq km, as Tulpung yr Aber also grows 3000 sq km. The Welsh Royal Coast and Morocco enter into a dynastic union with each other, greatly eliminating tensions that were left over after the border dispute. New South Wales grows its economy and military, as Maori Catholicism continues to spread. Missionary activity in Welsh regions stops since all the nations are not Catholic.

Thanks a ton!!! Reximus55 (talk) 11:54, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Also, this page may interest you -- Rafael Chon'ijich.

The "Cultural Game" is definitely fun for me also. I don't mind the warfare game, either, but for you all hostilities would be one-sided, so I applaud what you are undertaking. I am happy to share the Welsh-Selk'nam cultural bond as the best in the Old and New Worlds. No other 2 nations have such great relations across as many boundaries as us. A few thoughts on the Selk'nam...

• King Madoc's son will be a pretender to the Throne of the Selk'nam. That will possibly create some tension, as we will be Stage 3 Industrialization whereas you will be nearing Stage 1. Naturally, many Selk'nam, who will be nearing 100 years of Welsh influence, will be intrigued in a co-monarchial state.
• Praxedes and Madoc's son will undoubtedly have a good deal of influence in the Haruwin. How will you plan to handle this? Think Prince William of the Selk'nam.
• The new language of Wales, Brythonic (link), is starting to grow on. I'd be interested to see a breakdown of who considers themselves what religion, what culture (Japo-Selk'nam, Selk'nam Purist, Brytho-Selk'nam), what language, and the population, just general demography. Also, if you'd like, I can send scholars and scientists to improve your science. The main thing is that if you learn my language, you can read my books.
• I was thinking about the State of Catholicism. France plays as the Pope, but Sine dei Gloriem just posts a premade message. I was thinking about reforming the Church, much like German Catholicism in Magdeburg/Saxony. I know you have your Maugholdians, but right now I am beholden to a French vassal state. Would you care to help co-found the Welsh Patriarchy of Avalon. Would you back us? Faced with a succession crisis, the Papacy would accept our requests. (Maybe even a Patriarchy of Ona Yagich!).

Ciao, Reximus Maximus  21:03, July 23, 2013 (UTC) (Like my new signature?)

Thank You

Thank you for the welcome back. Yes, fire remains within the Koori, but what was once a mighty flame is now cinders, so actions must be chosen carefully if it is to not be snuffed out. I am glad to see you have continued to be successful in my absence, and would be happy to discuss tribal history and tactics in equal measure. As you say, a new Koori state could be formed independent of our previous borders, but it would be very hard as you said earlier. However that may not deter me from choosing that path. I first need to evaluate my options, and pick the choice on what to do in game that matches my sentiments. Hailstormer (talk) 10:48, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

PMII War

I accepted your religion. Btw, Wales is about to switch sides.

                SCRAWLAND INVICTUS || REX IMPERATOR   18:34, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

OK. You should be able to leave without any problems.

Well, I think I'll accept your offer then. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 18:47, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Understood. I'll see what I can do. ;) Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:40, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey man, can you join in chat? Quashi (talk) 00:07, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Chat? Hailstormer (talk) 21:05, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Oi! You deleted my post in 1800. Don't let this happen again. Accident or not, you should always check to see what you're doing when an edit conflict comes up to make sure you ain't broken something. VonGlusenburg ^{(talk to Von!)} 19:38, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

I can't exactly do something if i don't know what is happening.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:02, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

I think the mods can handle their diplomacy in the meantime.but first, post.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 18:46, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

PMII

Sure, it's no problem! I'll post for you. :] -Kogasa 2013 August 29, 01:31 (CET)

Sorry, but I can't remove the previous posts. There's a rule where editing past turns is not allowed, and if I remove them, it would violate the rule. Sorry. -Kogasa 2013 September 03, 23:37 (CET)

Sure, you can have all of your stuff. But I am going to get rid of the Apostolicism in Wales.

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  22:54, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

OK, the religion and everything can stay. Also I am open to good relations.

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  01:09, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks.

               "Fear the power of the Dark Side of the Force."  02:05, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. If it's okay, I'd like to have a Tojikan go next after the next elected Apostolic Prime Bishop dies. -Kogasa 2013 September 04, 14:01 (CET)

Imp controls the Welsh territories in South America, and Scraw managed to sleeze himself into gaining Britain. Yank planned on making it implausible for me to hold Britain because the Brits are Germanic (even though that didn't prevent them from holding countless territories around the world), so I had to give them all up. It was my war, and I don't even get anything I fought for. I have a traitor, a corrupt/ignorant mod, and a good friend who supported me in my time of need. I'm still convinced that it is more about me controlling a European nation than anything actually implausible, oh and get this, in order to take a particular piece of land, you actually need a strategic reason for taking it! This is my life. I'm surrounded by idiots. :/ Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:16, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Understood. I will remember that just in case. :) Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:48, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Of course. I can support that. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:03, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Always nice to know. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:51, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. You can send some my way, and I'll see if I can savage any left behind in Ireland. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:59, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

I transferred Brittany and Normandy to Sine as a gift. I'll just state Ethiopian researchers are moving them to Britain out of convience. Makes sense right? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:49, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

What time are you usually on chat? I just got on at this time today, lol. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 20:32, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Apostolic Church Possibly New Member

Can you provide me with the details please and how I fit into this project. Grantzu (talk) 01:25, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Think about it, the Teutons were a decent choice. But I don't settle for decent. I have picked Poland and Lithuania, which are in union at the time of 1400. With them, I can easily put tons of pressure on Russia. Poland-Lithuania also has potential to move into Hungary and Bohemia, and become a powerful nation in the Holy Roman Empire. Victory will be sweet.

About Wales, its ok, I guess. Lets not get ASB about the Persians, though. They practice Nestorian Christianity, which is unique in their interpretation of the Scripture, but may fit in nicely to the Apostolic Church.

Thanks,  Reximus Maximus 

Sure sure. Personally, I think the game is rather divided between Italia, Orissa, China, France and Ethiopia, and then you have everyone and everything else in between. Most of the fighting has been confined to Europe. Aside from that, with Germany out of the way, it would appear the superpowers are shifting their view toward America once again, all focused on expanding their already existing holdings there. That's all I know of for the time being. :/ Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:30, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Could not help looking over this. I found your religion thing interesting. Just look at South America. There are hindus, buddhists, shinto, christians (more than two types) and the Selk'nam religion. Something is bound to happen. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:50, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Generally sounds like a good idea, but I doubt any of them, myself included, would want to face down yet another major threat in an already fragile world. Plus, the mods would have a party using the threat in their events to destabilize any rival player nations, while increasing their own power by god-modding their nations to be invincible to whatever dangers may be poised against them. :/ Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 01:59, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well I look forward to it. And I agree with the regional moderators. Helps prevent corruption. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:29, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

They will probably die out as most begin to move either to your territories or give up on the religion. I don't plan to cause destablisation. But chaos on the other hand makes life quite fun. We will indeed get the attention of the mods by doing this. I was hoping more of a guy with a mix of all the religions, cause the Orissans aren't exactly oppressive - but to each his own.

Erm, mix of Christian + Shinto + American local religions with slight touches of Hinduism. That would make an interesting group of people, don't you think? ;)  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:03, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I can make it in half an hour? :/  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:09, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

So what's this games idea you have? CourageousLife (talk) 21:19, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Well right now I am controlling the Ethiopians, so Viva is kind of in charge of Orissa right now. I think you should have a chat with him. I think he should be open to it. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 19:46, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm talking about the games you have planned. CourageousLife (talk) 21:26, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was Grant, not you. I was talking about this-

Prince Louis also would like to see if any of the Selk'nam generals can hold their own in a sword fight and announces that there will be a tournament for that called the Warrior Games. An invitation is sent to the Selk'nam, Mayan and Lakota. All nations that want to participate please message me and in your next post announce four champions and pick one to win a challenge when the games begin. Moderators, is this okay?

CourageousLife (talk) 21:55, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Warrior Games

My idea with the Warrior games was that each nation invited would send a competitor for each event. The winner of the event is chosen by a vote and you can't vote for your self. The events include jousting, swordsmanship, marksmanship and obstacle courses. The winner of the most events will host the next games. So what do you think?Grantzu (talk) 20:43, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sure sure. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:48, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Understood. I'll get on it later tonight. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:03, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

The voting post is up it is on my talk page. Go and name your competitors there. Voting starts the same day as the Prime Bishop voting.Grantzu (talk) 21:28, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Lol. You can write the first half of the event, and Imp and I will work on the other half if you want. I like the name, as it reminds me of Dune's "Muad'dib". Look it up if you want some idea of how to get this dude going. :P Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:36, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Wow. I swear, if that was not for PMII, I would have guessed it was an actual religious belief. Dang man, that could pass for a real religion! How long were you working on that story? :O Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:11, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Your a professional writer? Awesome. Well, I'll see about getting to that event soon. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:37, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha. I won't be contributing as often due to an issue back home. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 18:29, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope things go well for your plans here. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:05, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

I'll post about it in like 1842?  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 19:09, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

What arrangemants for the royal marriage?Grantzu (talk) 00:18, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Could you give me something I can change to be able to post as a mod post?  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 17:34, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

No seems alright. I just need to fugure out a way to shorten it to post, lol. I think I will make a new section later on on the Map Game talkpage and post it there, lol. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 18:52, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yea. I will post it in 1850. By 1858, the "Revolution" period will have taken place, lol. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 18:56, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Lol. But yeah, I just think it would be interesting to see what will happen and where this goes. This is definately engulfing Atlantia. :)  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 19:02, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Can you come on chat? Rex.

I was planning to cause some unrest in Baltica to create the same situation actually. Breaking away a piece of Finland? I wasn't sure, but I might look into the idea. Perhaphs next year, I already have soo much going on right now, lol. Did you notice we have two groups of Boers - not one here? :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 16:44, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

You might be annoyed to find out they (greenpeace) will gain prominence in the 1940s. Yep, you really might want to start working on that problem, lol. The Bohemians are going to become a little vocal too. You know what they are going to start - but its 120ish years early lol. It won't gain prominence for a while yet - but when it does - it will be fun lol. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 17:05, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

And wild as in good or bad lol? :)  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 17:07, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

The West

I'd be interested, but there's two things. One, the Juun family isn't my royal family, just a prominent wealthy family who has been behind some major projects for decades. The other is that I'm a Parliamentary Republic, so I don't know if it could work. If it could, let's do it. 

I agree that Lakin would be a good candidate for the Apostolic Church, if you will have me.

CourageousLife (talk)

Sorry for the delay, I posted all of the necessary events in 1860. Please respond swiftly! :D CourageousLife (talk) 16:20, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

I really like the time and effort you put into your country. Most of my people don't usually have backstories. I'll get to work on the Maughold-Juun lovestory. As far as the other two princesses, I think I'll have one of my royals pursue Scholastica and return as Prince Consort. Would you perfer for Natalia to marry into another country? CourageousLife (talk) 21:45, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

So, the breakdown-

• Maughold - Eleuia Junn (16)
• Scholastica - Duke Coyopa (17)
• Natalia - Prince Chac (16)

Sounds good. 

CourageousLife (talk) 21:01, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, my history is really bad in this game. You still control the Selk'nam, Yagich Rafael, and the Praetorate, right? Anything I missed or messed up? CourageousLife (talk) 21:17, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, that's much better. Whenever you're ready, you move on Eleuia. I'll move on Scholastica and Natalia in a few years, when they're more of age. CourageousLife (talk) 21:30, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

The Early Movements (PMII)

Lol. That will be really interesting to see you know! It would become very funny too. Yeah, I think it should create a bit of havoc in-game and attract more players to the game. If they are implausible - then a wave of negative mod events hit them, something Oct is going to be learning soon. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 17:31, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Lol. Just tell me what things you think can go wrong. I'll see it and decide if it could become a mod event. that would be pretty interesting, don't you think? :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 18:08, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

You might want to have a look at the Imp's Predictions section. Tell me what do you think about it. Its just some silly stuff I wroteabout how the Map Game might progress. Although most of the things are based in what will probably happen. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 18:22, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Alright.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:31, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

You are still going to support my bid in the 1872 election for host city, given that there'll be no 1868 election, right?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:23, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Well, the point is that anybody who still can vote only has 37 minutes to do so.It is unlikely that somebody will do this on this small time window.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:23, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

So what effect will this be having on the region then? And what exactly is a praetorate? And this will most certainly end up bringing A'Asabism to... ANTILLIA!  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 19:21, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe the revolution could expand and branch out into other countries. Make these revolutions like the Communist revolutions in OTL? Grantzu (talk) 19:52, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

How are you doing it so I can help?Grantzu (talk) 20:01, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe the figure can be named Geronimo.Grantzu (talk) 20:21, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting! Well, me, Italia and I think Germany are all going to end up technocratc sooner or later. Russia might end up purely socialist - maybe even Communist. Facism in America would be pretty good, and it gives me an idea.

This could start off the civil war I have been wanting. although support for "black-supremecy" will take at least 2-3 decades. It will first take time to spread and eventually when conditions are right - it will explode onto the scene and cause a civil-war with the socialists. 

And it was pretty obvious it was cocaine. Your drink CocaBrytonia was Coca Cola - or atleast its initial version lol. :D Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:39, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

And it is just about to fall into the hands of *drumroll please* A'Asab!

South America will have cocaine problems a bit early. Well, I don't plan on the facist winning control of my nation nation, but I will probably look to find a colony where I can have them form a state in exile. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 21:49, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Lisboa.it is better for the water-related events.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 17:10, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

PMII Pure Science

I was thinking maybe we can have a war between the Monarchist Apache, Mayan and Selk'nam vs the Preatorates. No land would be taken just a way to get more support for the movement and heat things up. It has been to peaceful lately and a war would make sense. What are your thoughts?Grantzu (talk) 19:47, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Well the Mayan have to be involved and yes it would be all theater no land lost.Grantzu (talk) 19:47, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

I commission youto write about his final defeat for 1870. And sure, I guess - I'll keep it around but it will have huge stigma against it and will probably see the beginnings of a humanist/athiest type thing form because of this. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 17:24, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

He is getting shot with machine guns. He does not survive. Orissa will make sure of that lol.  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 22:46, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

In 1871 would be good remeber this is all theater.Grantzu (talk) 21:24, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

The culprit would probably be Preatoress Athena she is kind of unstable. Also I am going to have Geronimo write the Ethics of Preatores it would outline the morals the Preators have to follow. Also Geronimo is going to create a more democratic process (enlightenment). Maybe your Princess could kill off Athena in an invasion for revenge.Grantzu (talk) 21:34, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking it would be no algo. I am fine with dragging out the war, I'll just say the Selknam were being conservative an  only using those ships when they needed to so that their damage was minimal or something. I do not really have a use for her I'm afraid so you can keep her. However, I would like it if you could state that some of the pure science guys could run away in Patagoshina so it could kick off my plans. :D  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 11:04, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

The 1876 Olympics are about to happen.Since Yagich Rafael and the Preorate are at war, i guess they won't participate,right?--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 18:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, and regarding your royal marriage proposal of 1874, Aragon offers Guillén Folc de Cardona, second son of the current Aragonese king, and which is two years older than both of your king's daughters.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 20:49, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

De Mor Tir

So, apparently whilst I was away from the wiki for a few days, my new nation, L'Atlantide, was invaded by Mahajayra, and now Imp controls my former lands - I don't.

As you can see on the Talk Page, some are suggesting banning me. I would now like to take you up on the offer of playing as the islands of De Mor Tir. I have started to do this in 1880, and will (with your ok) declare independence in 1881.

If you can provide me with a brief history of the Selk'nam on De Mor Tir, I would really apreciate it (from when you started to settle it, to when you gained it after the fall of Brython, to modern -1880s- day).

Also, could you elaborate on the jargon you use for your different states. For instance, where is Pure Science? And where are all the Yagiches? Thanks,                I find your lack of faith disturbing.  21:06, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

One of my plans was to take Wales back. Sort of have a Welsh-De Mor Tir nation with only these two nations. So, both De Mor Tir and Wales would be under me, and be the same government. This would return Avalon to an even more powerful city.

Would that be ok if I could manage to get Scand to let go of Wales by creating a pan-Welsh nationalism. Also, I am personally opposed to the vassalhood part, but if that is important to you, then it is fine. I just think a flat-out declaration of independence followed by a mini-war (staged, and w/o an algo) would be the best and most plausbile option. Up to you,                Hasta la vista, baby.  05:28, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Wales

Wales has appealed for German protection since the collapse of half the Alliance of the North Sea. So Avalon is not in my hands anymore. As for the Pure Science movement what do you have in mind? Scandinator (talk) 10:27, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hey I am asking what would happen if my Pretor Geronimo breaks with traditionally Pure Science so radically like focusing more on meritocracy than being anti-religion. In the Principia Moderni II time line I kind of gave the Apache a strong Democratic history so yeah. What are your thoughts on this? Also i'm going to not support the Equalist because they kind of clash.Grantzu (talk) 19:41, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Could you get me a map please of what you mean?

And I want to ask why you have territory which is mine as yours on the map?  Imp ^{(Say Hi?!)} 19:40, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Commandante! So, my plan is to have Arian lose, which would then open up the potentials for Zionism and similar philosophies which you had begun to develop before I came in and took De Mor Tir from you.

So, to answer a few things, De Mor Tir City is on the west island, and is your city that you used as the capital. Sant Padrig is on the east island, the traditional (and now current) capital. A civil war will develop out of the recent riots, and the PFB (Great Brython Party - Nationalists)  will defeat the PS (Secular Party - Socialist Sympathizers). After Arian loses, he will probably go to the Haruwin, and you can control him.

But Bowen will start to be more "aggressive." No, not warfare and expansion, more or less interested in the affairs of formerly Brythonic states - mostly Wales and Brittany, both of which may end up in my hands eventually.

Folant, was born in Germany, but being a nationalistic Welsh, he moved to De Mor Tir. Also, in the few years after the Civil War, the bridge linking the two islands will be completed, and the engineers will happily go to the Haruwin to help you out with your own bridge project! Thanks, Reximus | Talk to Me! 01:39, November 23, 2013 (UTC) 

OK.

                SCRAWLAND INVICTUS || REX IMPERATOR   21:22, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Out of Town

I'll be out of town for a few days, probably until Sunday. Could you post for me as the Mayans in PMII? Just copy my post from the most recent year and paste it into the next. Thanks CourageousLife (talk) 16:11, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

I was planning to invade. Germany doesn't like it when weak little native savages attack mighty and pure blooded Germans! ( nationalism yay!)Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 22:21, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, your Preorate of Pure Science has been attacking my nation.give me a suggestion of what i am supposed to do, other than declare war immediately.which is what i will do without any suggestions of other actions to take.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:10, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly? I was going to full on invade. The attack was an insult on German honour.( the Germans are very proud people) we were going to two stage attack. We were going to send a "peace" convoy to pure science. Then detonate the ships remotely with biological agents as a response. Then invade with almost a full force.( we would then defeat them and either roll them into the Empire, or more likely, give them back to the Attican Union). In the meantime, as I'm still debating about attacking or not. Can Germany have an allaince officially with the Attican Union. It would mark the first time that Germany has allied with a non-European South American nation( the last time was with the Maya, a long and prosperous alliance). Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 12:48, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I know that you have nothing against me. I saw your statement on the talk page. And Whatever happens to the island is up to Germany or whoever else joins the war.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 14:37, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Splendid. The German Empire approves and will announce plans to ally with the whole of the selk-sphere. One request, when Eris is caught, can Germany host the trial? Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 16:03, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I'll stay out of the way until then. :P Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:11, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

At the end of this war. I would like the ability(option) to have a naval base headquartered in the region. In part to keep the peace, and because I have plans regarding parts of South America.( if you'd like to know some ill gladly share). Also just as a heads up, my nation is going to undergo some serious changes. As you may or may not be aware, my nation is a socialist democracy. But there are groups whom feel the Empire is not socialist enough. Soon there may end up being an Eqaulist revolution( that or a new kind of socialism based on big business and technology, a technocracy I suppose) do you think I should let Britanny and maybe Wales rebel away to Rex? I really don't care if Britanny goes, but I don't want to split up the isles.Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 03:07, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Currently my nation is not Eqaulist. So there isn't an issue. Currently there is an an anti- Eqaulist party in power, I was just warning that things might change. I'm really thinking about just making my own political affiliation. If you'd like to help that'd be great.Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 04:54, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking of the name "relativism". I want a very futurist fascism. I want Germnay to be this advanced futurist nation that believes in the divinity of man not god. I don't agree with moral looseness. I want it to embrace a more Nordic philosophy( which revolved around the 8 realms of space). Do you get what I'm thinking? Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 06:11, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

It also fits with the German superiority thing. My nation has long believed that the Germans are descendant of the God. A chosen and powerful people, destinies to bring knowledge to the world. In this timeline I have cultivated a Germany that focuses on the betterment of man so this could work. But how to set it up, I've postulated but haven't a clue as to how to build it.Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 07:08, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Relativism

addressing the growing socialist movement I've decided to form my own politcal philosophy called Relativism

Relativism

A branch of facism that revolves around the superiority of the Germanic people. Ties into the belief that the Germans are a chosen people by the Nordic Gods to bring Science and knowledge to the world and to promote the idea of the 8 realms.

The philsophy is highly technocratic and focuses on merit. It is also very capitalistic in nature and is a direct antithesis to that of Eqaulism, whom Relativists see as inferior. Relativism comes from the belief that all things are in flux, that everything, is relative. It is also a play on Einstein's relatiity theorem. Fitting for a science led nation. 

The political structure of this will be a peoples court

it will be socialist in the fact that the people work collectively for the greater good, but capitalist in the extent of science and technology.

Focuses on activism. Exporting the philsophy to other nations, particularly advanced nations is a priority. 

Any aid in developing this further is most welcome.

I plan on using this as a technocratic philsophy that focuses on science but melds Nordic influences. Seeing as your interest in my ideology i can of course adjust it to fit into the Selk'nam sphere. I was wondering if your interested in adopting it or helping me streamline it. Its unique and I think a good alternative to Eqaulism..Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 08:41, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sci-Fi Empire Fact Sheet Info

I know I'm probably bothering you, but I'm working on something, and was quite interested in getting some info from you regarding what name of empire you create if you could. I've set up a little list for you that I'd like for you to fill out if you had the time.

• Empire name: <Official name and common name> <Separate names with "/">
• Founding year: <2180-2270>
• Capital (City, World):
• Nation symbol: <Example: A silver sword, blade upturned, against a golden sunburst on a red disc.>
• Total (Inhabited) Systems: <100-450>
• Estimated population: <100 billion-1 trillion>
• Government:
• Current leader: <Title> <Name>
• Currency:
• Military name:
• Military size:
• Official language(s):
• Other language(s):
• Preferred empire color:
• How is the leader chosen?:
• How unified is the country?:
• How tolerant are the people?:
• What kind of economy is there?:
• How does the army work?:
• What's the literacy level?:
• What's the overall technology?: <Low-tech or high-tech>
• What do the people worship or invoke?: <Leave blank if none>
• What's the most admired class?:
• What's the lowest class?:
• How are women treated?:
• What is the attitude toward sex?:
• What's the most pressing social/political problem?:

Thank you for your cooperation. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 03:55, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Its a sci-fi setting and story I plan on working on and I needed some empires and characters for it. Since I've got all this support for it now, I can go ahead with making a wiki for it. Like the others, you'll be invited to join in and contribute to the wiki's development if you want too. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:59, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

I forgot about the latter half of your post. Sure, we can do that. I suggest asking Imp, Scraw, Andrew, and Crimson for help as well. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:24, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the sheet. However, there is a problem with some bits. The first is that its too large, and beyond the 500 planet limit. Because of the occuption of much of the galaxy by 14 other players, your nation will have to be cut down to a third, as well as the population. Also, your tech is too high as the Unified Vespian Directorate in the game is the most advanced power as well as the largest. As from this, your nation has passed. Oh, I'll have to give you another shade of grey since one of the empire's has grey as their official color. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:33, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

I understand your point, but it was established between myself, Imp, Fed, and Guns (Bharat, Saltus, and Vanor respectively), as well as the other players, who the largest and most advanced powers are. As a result, only regions within the "Badlands" are open for claiming. I could give you half of the Badlands or the entire thing, but the size of your systems would be limited to 250 systems. Sorry, but I can't do anything beyond that. Your technological edge would remain as is, but the size and population would not. You'd have to discuss the possibility of increasing your size with the other players as I'd have to take space from the others to accomedate your own nation. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:40, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Good enough. Welcome aboard.  Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:50, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Your on the map. Congrats! Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:10, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Understood. And your welcome. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:20, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

PM3

I'm more than happy to co-operate so long as I get OTL Chinese Manchuria and Mongolia, then we can block Russian expansion together! In addtion, would you be interested in helping me achieve a non-Japanese Hokkaido? And a Chinese Japan? I want Samurais *rubs hands together* In addition I want to try for an Easternised World this PM, its always been more Europe focused. Scandinator (talk) 17:52, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Things are topsy-turvy this time. Imp is in Hungary, an unstable state with many peoples, Kogasa is not playing but Europe will be a glorious mess. Japan in 1400 was in a state of civil war so if we get the Ainu and then strike ASAP then we will be at a great advantage. Scandinator (talk) 18:36, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Japan is being played by some noob and the only Indian is really Eiplec as Bengal, as Imp has joined the European bloodbath.

                SCRAWLAND INVICTUS || REX IMPERATOR   18:37, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Done deal. Scandinator (talk)

Hail told me to play as the tribe I am playing as, because they have Uluru, but IDK. What tribe would you suggest?

_{"Sleeps with the fishes"} ^{"An Offer you Can't Refuse."} _{"Make a wish. It'll be your last"}

Yeah it is going to be interesting. Especially with two separate native players in the area. I have looked at this conversation on the talk page, and it was very interesting to read. The case you raise about the Iwi is a bit of a trick question. If you look at my page on the Te Wai Pounamu you will see it actually relates to the boundaries, history, and culture of Ngai Tahu. What actually happened was that I mixed up the names of Te Wai Pounamu and Ngai Tahu when I first read about them. Stupid I admit, but also quite funny. The only reason I haven't changed it is that I have been waiting to ask a mod to change the name on my page as I hate page redirects. Plus it will take a while to replace all the 'Te Wai Pounamu' with 'Ngai Tahu'. But I will change it on the PMIII page for the time being. Hailstormer (talk) 20:16, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Would you like to come on chat? Hailstormer (talk) 20:20, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you, sir. Good luck to you. RazorFangZ14 (talk) 15:35, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Moderator Events

Just so you know that moderator event about the Haast's Eagle and Moa are OTL events. By the start of the game they are already basically extinct, so it is far too late to save them. 15:18, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

I believe it should be up to the player to take responsibility for this thing, not bias moderator events or ASB, which is why I added it. I would however be happy to let you make moderator events for this area, just please do not make overly favorable moderator events to save these species for no reason. If the player makes no intention to slow down hunting then there is no reason for them not to go extinct. Otherwise it is ASB and/or bias. Mscoree (talk) 15:43, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

PM3 Signup Re

Alright, I'll move. The problem mostly is trying to figure out a country that I can play, but I'll see if I can find one. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 19:04, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

I would ask if I could play both, but that would be too much. It took me forever to figure out what to play after I first found out I couldn't play Delhi that I don't know if I want to switch back, to be perfectly honest. I'll think about it though. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 03:05, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

Chat? -- Hailstormer (talk) 03:54, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

I was just thinking about that. I think I will stay as Iroquois then. Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 04:04, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

Lemming I'm really sorry to say but I have decided to switch states. The small size of the Otago Maori, and lack of player contact for 150 years has lead me to make this choice. However I am happy to say I am still waving the native flag, and have changed states to the Mississippi River Civilization, so I have my work cut out for me. I will be on chat for a while now, so if you would like to come on, I am happy to talk about my plans. -- Hailstormer (talk) 18:24, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

I have posted my first turn, what do you think? -- Hailstormer (talk) 15:12, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

I also have something important to mention in chat if you get the chance. -- Hailstormer (talk) 15:58, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

You on Wikia today? -- Hailstormer (talk) 00:16, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, sounds good. Its good to know you have everything under control. I wasnt able to do a lot of research into the Mississippi civilisations and thus the misunderstanding of their society. Scandinator (talk) 04:50, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

I'll continue the convo on Hail's page. Scandinator (talk) 15:39, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Can come on chat? I have something important to discuss. -- Hailstormer (talk) 19:42, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hey just came back and I have a question for Principia Moderni III can the Wappinger tribe be included because they controlled a lot of territory around the same time as the Iroquois. They controlled as far north as Roeliff-Jansen Kill to Manhattan Island in the south and as far as parts of Connecticut in the east. So can they be included?--Grantzu (talk) 01:33, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Something Important

Hey Lemming. As you may have seen on the PMIII page I have decided to take time away from the Wikia and focus my efforts elsewhere. However there is one last thing I never got the opportunity to talk over with you. So if you could drop a time and date on my talk page so we could talk on chat that would be greatly appreciated. I will check my talk page at least daily until I hear back from you. Thanks in advance. -- Hailstormer (talk) 00:02, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

LEMMING!

Glad to see you are sort of still around! 

If you want to post about Mangut Nivkhgu once in a while, you can do so whenever you want. It'd be a honour actually! The Nivkhs are, in my plans, never to be annexed, so no worries about that. Fed (talk) 02:23, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Lemming!!! I am so glad that you got a moment to stop by, at least. I know that Fed wanted to chat with you (he took over your Nivkh nation, but has stated that he wants to give it back to you if/when you return).

As for me, I will be on chat pretty much for the whole of the weekend, as far as I can tell, so get on here and we can catch up. I'd love to help you, but I'd especially love it if you could dedicate 10 minutes a day to PM3, but it is what it is...

I have recently tried to "pull a Lemming" and start up a tiny tribe in an Arctic climate, this group being the Kiatagmiut Band of Central Alaskan Yup'ik along the Kuskowim River in Alaska in PM3. I'd be interested to see what you think of my plans, and see how you'd add some fun to the region.

Talk to you soon, Reximus | Talk to Me! 22:04, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I noticed you sort of started posting. Please come onto chat later today if you have a moment, or at least let me know on my talk page your future plans to some extent as far as our relations and interactions will go. Thanks, Reximus | Talk to Me! 07:50, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

PMIII

Hello, I am Japan in PMIII. Whenever you can, must talk about something in chat, whenever you can get on, please talk to me. Thanks. Saturn ^(Talk/Blog) 17:58, October 20, 2014 (UTC)