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Are you still playing PM2? Because I have a plan for my nation but it involves you. Basically seeing how you don't play, I was thinking your nation fall apart as a Muslim uprising takes place in Egypt. My new Caliphate state gets Sinai and nearby lands and Egypt becomes my vassal. Syria & Palestine remain independent as the Levant though. You could control them or at a later date, have it enter dynastic union with one of my nations? Your colonies could then transfer to me as well, or stay as colonies of your vassals. Anyway, what you think? I mean its better than your nation being invaded and destroyed by Persia, which is currently trying to happen. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 11:33, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I'm going to go with the dynastic union plan but I will eventually split up the Levantines into Syria, Egypt and Sinai lands owned by the Caliphate. Maybe I'll have it split up due to differences in the coptic archbishop they think is the leader of the Coptic church or something. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 01:38, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Hola Fede como has estado? Espero que bien :) Mira aquí en la wikia en español. Un usuario ha traducido tu historia de "Bolivar's Dream". Como vi que no te pidió permiso (al menos no aparece en tus discusiones) quería saber si hay algún inconveniente con que él haga eso?? Saludos --Katholico (talk) 23:19, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Ya veo :O Si, yo he estado ocupado, pero bien.
- Aquel usuario se dedica principalmente a traer historias de acá a la wikia en español, pero le hemos dicho que pida permiso primero cuando la historia tiene un creador activo. :/ Por eso preguntaba. Bueno, lo dejare que continúe, aunque que sucedería si empieza a agregar más cosas a tu historia pero en base a sus ideas propias? Saludos --Katholico (talk) 00:43, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
PM2 independent mod check
Hello, okay the latest large war has had its algorithm completed. In my mod position I have locked it and I deem it to be accurate and correct. To ensure there is no bias and the algorithm is correct, I'd like you and the other mods who are neutral in this war to check the algorithm to judge if it's correct. Thank you.
Also if you are not playing anymore, should we move you into an honoury mod position rather than an active mod position?
PMII Mod event 1743
Rheatia, otherwise known as Switzerland undergoes a revolt against France. Nine of the Cantons lead by Bern demand freedom from French influence much to the displeasure of Geneva. They seek Bavarian and Italian protection.
do you agree with this mod event, i'm asking because France has taken a expansionist expansion of its right to its vassals and protectorates and full freedom of action within ther nations as far as their actions mean no harm to others, and a like other nations has granted freedom to other ethnicities in the empire almost eversince the start of the game (although as Burgundy), yet nations like wales and germany have not been so favorable towards them, and instead of they being the ones that have revolts often enough, they have become world empires, and france who tries to do so, its been either broken or shattered.
so knowing these, as well as the fact that every main nation of the French monarchic empire is a constitutional monarchy, do you think the mod event is still likely?
Hey Fed! I guess the Operation Dissolution articleis drawing to a close. Therefore I would ask you to put the SAC reaction and official cutting off of aid to the UIP in the interation reactions sections of the page. Otherwise, the UIP would get away with it and the SAC would continue to aid the UIP, diminishing its reputation.
Hmm. it is an interesting proposal. I think if we could slightly tone down their power but keep almost everything else the same - then it could defo work. I don't think they will be agricultural, however - I would think it would be more of an industrial hub. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:30, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
HRESMHere's the map. You don't like it. Prepare... to bargain....
23:54, December 21, 2013 (UTC)
Nominated for DELETION????!!!!!!!!!??????????
There has been a mix up. On my althistory (post 2009 influenza) you nominated it for deletion. A althistory only has to have it's P.O.D before ithe present date there are many Althistorys that are past 2014 but their P.O.D was before 2013. I'm not angry in any way I know it was a mix up. Masterire (talk) 16:15, December 22, 2013 (UTC)
I changed it. It is better now
Look, I'm not trying to cause trouble here, but everyone always consider my edits as spam, and it is starting an edit war. I'm not repeatedly posting links on every single page. You have the links for the Future and Constructed Wiki on that page to redirect people to make future histories there and I'm putting a link for my wiki to redirect people to make alternate future wiki there since this wiki doesn't allow such pages. It is not fair that there links on those to wikis there and I can't link my own wiki dealing with alternate future history. So would you let me put the link there. If not, why would the links for the Future and Constructed wiki be there and not the link of my wiki? Ismael Perez (Talk) 00:29, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
We need to have a- ahh- private chat.
01:49, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
MISBEHAVING? What! NO! That'll look bad! I'm banned for sockpuppeting!
01:04, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
- Wait. AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. XD Imp (Say Hi?!) 01:05, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
Growing a spine, are we, Fed? Just "A Noble Reason" would have done quite well...
01:31, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
No, correction. I was banned for violating YOUR rule on squirrels, which is quite frankly abuse. That IS a noble cause sir.
22:05, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
I spammed squirrels to protest your law. Duh.
22:37, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
Said every dictator on Earth as he shot down the protestors. We'll see, sir. We'll see. You may have just sparked off an armed insurrection, and I'd advise you to be cautious. The Squirrevolution... will not die easy.
22:56, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
NO. Banned for protesting your horrid law against the squirrels. CIVIL DISOBEDIANCE! The Squirrevolution is spreading, you dictator. And when we make Crim El Tee... THERE-WILL-BE-HELL-TO-PAY!!!
01:38, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and this .
17:46, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Fed, remember the other day when we were talking about that Alt WWI scenario, and I kinda said that I would let you run with it? Well, I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but would it be possible to instead split up the idea between the two of us? We had the to POD's for Russia and Germany, but I think if each one of us worked on a separate POD we could make both as good as they could have been together.
- Two things. First of all, scratch that thing that I said earlier. I will let you develop the story as you see fit. I have another POD idea in mind now. Second, how do you want to go about starting that community TL idea we had? Tbguy1992; Talk; Blog 20:23, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
Genoan Castilian issue
Hey Fed ive evicted oct with both Castile and Granada every turn and he keeps saying he has trade dominance when even another country Venetia helped me shift the trade dominance can you tell oct to shove off because ive kicked him out or imprisoned his traders literally every single turn.04:34, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
You Shall Tremble
Uhh, I only count one form, and that was noting how little power you and Imp have over me. And correcting Imp's horrendous spelling.
00:09, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
Isiro. Civil war. Writing. GOOD GOD MAN, TAKE A HINT AND WRITE!!
00:49, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
Re:India in IFF
Well, first of all you need to kill of major nationalism and establish some sort of regionalistic views within the peoples. Now I know for certain that most of the Indian populace revered the Emperor at around the time of WWI, with all the independence things really kicking off after WWI.
I really do not think that a Christian state would exist - the Christians are too few and far in-between. The Buddhist state, on the other hand, there is a large possibility of, especially if we are talking about the Burma region, or the Northern Bihar/Bhutan/North-eastern Indian states. A Tamil state would probably make sense too -although its stability really depends on the size you plan for the nation to really be. I would think a Western Islamic state would be logical - but it would be even more logical to have it as the only true Muslim state. Bengal (east and west) would, I reckon, be an independent nation - Bangladesh is much more secular than its predecessor - and thus it would make sense for a Bengali state to form, rather than a state divided on religious grounds. The Hindu state is no major surprise to me, it would most definately have to be there. Definately no Princely states if you want an overall Royal Family - most I would reckon would marry into the "local" Monarchy anyway (or into the governer-general's family or something along those lines). I'm thinking individual states would have a federation more along the lines of India in OTL - a quasi-federation, with the union of the nations making up the Indic Federation more like a Federal Monarchy (like Australia or Canada but looser). However, the problem with the muslim state is that you cannot have someone like Jinnah taking the nation to extremism - like it is today, otherwise this muslim state would never be part of the Federation in the first place or would break away.
I would think the "Nehru" family would really become governer-generals of the Indic Federation (or Prime Ministers), representing the Crown. They would largely run the whole Federation. Wow, that is a lot of seats. Although I think 1501 could perhaps work? India in OTL has 545 seats for the elected parliament, second in the world to (suprisingly) the United Kingdom which has 650. But the overall number of seats the United Kingdom has is 1461 or something - so it is not too far-fetched if the Indic Federation has two tiers of Parliaments and has 1501 seats. It could work with just one parliament too, but those in power would mostly be coalitions with the same ideologies. So yeah! Imp (Say Hi?!) 00:59, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
please post in road to war
Medieval Age: AOK
Now that I've gotten my required eight hours of sleep, I'm sorry if I offended you. My stance is that the mods in general often refuse to listen to any of the players (chiefly Scraw), and pin the blame for arguments on the person who brought the matter up rather than resolve the issue civilly. Your own actions were excessive, and I feel that your actions were more geared toward seeking out what you thought was offensive, rather than what was actually offensive (i.e., only you stated that the posts I made were offensive, while everyone else was chill). I don't get mad without reason, and unlike yourself, I don't have any support when others gang up on me for things they themselves don't understand. I'd like to avoid further confrontations if the others just read and listen to what I say rather than ignore me and critisize my actions without cause. Can we do that? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 19:04, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
Vivas craziness again
i just read Vivas turn and hes saying he can 1. reach india, 2. get gunpowder weaponry from india. I dont even think viva has the ability for that can we please fix this foolishness.
Good news and bad news. The good news is that the war is on. The bad news is that Yank betrayed us. He's gone to war with me. Only reason the northern German states haven't declared war on me is because they need me against Ms. Novgorod has offered me a treaty offering land. I might take that and go after Yank because I do not tolerate traitors. CrimsonAssassin- gib clay 22:10, March 24, 2014 (UTC)
I propose a few things. The first thing we could do would be continuing with the invasion and add Andrew and maybe some more people against Novgorod and now the Prussians. Hamburg will betray me too if that is the case. The second thing we could do would be to try to get Novgorod to sign some land to us and I fight Prussia. No idea who would help me. The third thing we could do (and I don't like this) is revert to status quo. Note that diplomacy will be fucked completely and it honestly will make us both look like pussies, but this may actually be the safest route. CrimsonAssassin- gib clay 23:09, March 24, 2014 (UTC)
Fed, Crim banned Ms for attempting to undo his edits on the locked algo. He is using his powers to win the war and is being very bias. He even is disputing the algo that you approved, and the treaty that you signed! Please help us! NonEuclidean ツ (Talk) 21:32, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
Fedbab come to chat -Sky
A Few Answers
Apologies for the long delay in a response. Still working on catching up to things, you know?
Germany getting more liberal is possible - you're only advancing it by like a decade, truth be told.
Russia, you don't list a reason. Hard if not impossible for it, irregardless.
Not impossible for Russia, Germany, and the Brits to ally. Their interests did mesh in a lot of ways, after all. If nothing else, had Germany chose Russia instead of A-H, they'd have stayed allied.
With alliances in that period, the only certainty is that Russia will not ally with A-H or the Ottos.
If France and A-H are allied, Italy will join any group that opposes them. Both have territory it wants.
Serbia and Montenegro would go against the Ottos and A-H. Bulgaria would still probably oppose those two and Greece, though going against the Ottos would not be impossible. Romania would likely oppose A-H, but not impossible to get them against Russia, though far harder. Greeks likely have the motivation to go against both sides nearly equally, but the government is likely pro-German/Brits.
Would not be shocked if Spain joined the French side.
Mari El and Chuvashia are more or less under the Russian Confederacy.
Between fallout and at minimum a strike on its capital, Udmurtia is a write-off. Only area that might survive DD is around the city of Glasov, and that would be somewhat iffy afterwards - but something there would not be outright impossible.
Only really populated areas in the south of Komi are hit. Anywhere else in Komi is basically depopulated as it is. Not going to work.
You already know my opinion on your Isiran Civil War - not at all possible in its current form.
Yes, HIV/AIDS would have been stunted internationally - but the effects in much of the African areas it came from would have been worse.
Hi, I noticed that you were planning to divide Siberia with the Oirats, with you getting everything north of Lake Baikal. That could cause some problems, because I (as the Koryak Confederacy) already hold part of that territory. I also noticed you were planning to strike something involving the Tatars, which is worrying, because the eastern Tatars are valulable trading partners for me. Can we work something out on those? (If the Tatar thing doesn't involve me, forget it). I would be amenable to a division of Siberia along the Lena, with another river as my southern boundary. Krasnoyarsk (talk) 14:16, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
Banned from Chat?
Wow I'm banned from chat now too? All I did was say my side of the story to MP before you kicked me a third time. Was it for being patronizing? Well all evening you've been calling me an imbecile and personally insulting me (generally doing the things Viva was doing to you), then I get a fact right and I just ask you to apologize to me. I apologized to you, but I guess you couldn't return that.
Here's an exert from the chat I was about to post in chat before I was kicked. Hope this helps explain the issue to MP.
Tr0llis: Apologize to me lol 10:58 Quashi: like a legal part was under the rule of the emperor 10:58 Fedelede: I'm a click away from banning you 10:58 Quashi: but not a full part of the HRE 10:58 Tr0llis: I forgive you Fed *kicked* 10:58 Fedelede: so I'd word my next few times quite carefully 10:59 Tr0llisdamn someone's butthurt lol *kicked*
Here is the basic turn that I would like you to post for me in my abscence:
- Roman Empire: The Empire continues to shift its trade to the west, although this slows down due to the opening/restoration of the canal in Egypt. Engineers and soldiers continue to help with the project there. Weapons and books continue to be sent to the Tartar Empire to help the Emperor Theodore defeat his opponents. With the weapons available to the Empire largely reaching a standstill, the Emperor turns his attention towards bettering the health and wealth of his people. To this end, he encourages the continued research into medical care and the expansion and construction of hospitals. Education is also seriously considered once again now that the times of war have passed the Empire by. To help do this, the University of Constantinople considers sending some of its scholars to other parts of the Empire to educate citizens that cannot make the journey to Constantinople.A prominent Latin from Patras, Carlo de Patra, begins his education at the University. He soon begins to amaze his professors with this imaginative and complicated designs and theories related to science and the physical world. (I will elaborate when I return)
- Albania: With the revolts in Italian Albania in full swing, the kingdom is not sure how to react. Many of the citizens want the war to happen, and some even move back to help the resistance. The government is much more neutral, concerned if the Roman Empire will back such military action and the thought of waging war on a nation that helped Albania gain independence. The national military is expanded and trained further as a result.
You have my permission to react to events that affect the Empire, as expected. I would prefer to not get involved in wars right now, no matter how tempting they may be, unless they deal with either my own land or Alexandria or the Golden Horde. If those two states begin to be hard pressed, then you have my permission to intervene, although in the Horde's case this would be if Theodore started losing the war, something I find unlikely.
I may be on from time to time, so if you have any questions for me, I will do my best to answer them then.
Thanks once again for this.
Hi, I'm sorry, but I might not be active over the next couple of days. Can you post for me? Today, certainly, probably Saturday and Sunday. By Monday I'll be back up. Thanks!
Just say something minor, make sure to expand infra and econ, and include my three vassals- Aceh, Sri Vijaya, and Padang.
23:05, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
so whats your stance on the new war with scandinavia?
Re: Indian COA
Hey Fed, I'm fine, yourself?
I'm quite honoured you find my coat of arms so attractive, and I'm more than happy for you to use it on your TL. For my ego though, would it be okay if you just wrote a tiny attribution on your page's talk page?
Question regarding Ey Iran
Sorry Fed if I bothering your time. But, as I doing a maintenance on audio files on this wiki, I found you uploaded Ey Iran the original anthem of Iran (with lyrics).ogg file a long time ago. Are you mind if I ask you about the source of the file?
Oh, thank you very much.
Very well then. Because the file is from Youtube, are you mind if the file is renamed as Ey Iran (vocal).ogg? It is because the instrumental version is also exist (I uploaded it a long time ago too) and I want to make your file as one of "official audio files" that specially belong to this wiki.
Thank you very much, Fed. :D
Greetings comrade Soviet Bear. I have been told by Feud that he consulted you before making the Indian League decision and I wish to know if this is the truth as he has already blatantly lied about the involvement of MP.
Hey I saw you claimed London in Days After Chaos. I was thinking that the City of London could be one of the independent nations within the city, and I was wondering if we could co write or collaborate on that article. Meet me on chat sometime so that we can discuss some of the ideas we may have. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 02:09, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
So, given that a fair number of players and a mod have voiced their opposition to the ban, think you can lift it now? Come on. Please masta? I ain't never hurt nobody ever. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 05:09, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
Oirats or whatever they're called now
^ Firstly check out that, above this. Seems important.
Next, shall we hit the Oirats?
20:28, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Hallo, Feddy. Looks like you won't need to post for me today; I only had one exam, not three as I thought I did, and that's over.
That being said... shall we into Liao?
17:49, June 7, 2014 (UTC)
Never spammed, and the squirrevolution is NOT non-sensical.
You know, if you eased up about squirrels, then the squirrelovlution would just die on it's own.
Also, you're not getting much land in the Liao. It weren't plausie anyway.
03:09, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
Hola Fede, como has estado? Espero bien. Oye, acabo de ver un proyecto de partidos políticos en el wiki, y que tu estas desarrollando una pagina para el Partido Conservador, y ya varios otros usuarios se han unido a otros partidos. Encuentro interesante el tema :) Saludos PD: También leí tu blog sobre las elecciones en Colombia. Katholico (talk) 01:58, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
- He estado bien, gracias :) Desarrollando historias en la wikia en español.
- Ah ya veo. LG aparece como miembro, pero asumo que no esta involucrado y solo es porque es parte del TSPTF XD bueno, si necesitas ayuda con ello puedes avisarme. Me identifico con las metas que tiene el partido. Saludos --Katholico (talk) 02:27, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
Can You Please Take This Ban Off
I am sorry for what I did, even though I am unsure of what I did. I will never spam or do stupid fucked up shit like that again. So could you please take the ban off so I could go onto the chat and talk. - Scarlet Outlaw
Not sure if you saw my message last time, but me at the chat on the other page. Saamwiil, the Humble 22:08, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Do you know a program that will allow me to edit the PMIII map by pixel, and tell me hoe many pixels are in each colour? (I want to be able show the size of |onte, which is continuously off) Saamwiil, the Humble 21:05, July 3, 2014 (UTC)
Civilizations: The Dawn Resumption
So, if you may have heard, Civilizations: The Dawn, the map game over at mapgame.wikia, will be resuming tonight, July 3, and it'd be great if you will come back and resume playing. Thanks!
If you're the one posting the map now, here is the proper map of |onte as 1550. In 1555, 15 pixels should be added to the northern border:
Also, the island beneath the two Islands controlled by Bengal have needed to be grey. It is controlled by the Rikisiate of Nikobara. (I helped set it up, but it is not my vassal, this was around 40 years ago). Saamwiil, the Humble 05:51, July 6, 2014 (UTC)
You are totally misinterpreting what I am saying. I never once said that the TSPTF was a bunch of retarded monkeys, I said only those who voted for Crim. There is a bid diffirence there, there are a good amount of members on the TSPTF I do like and find intelligent, and if it helps, I think you're closer to those people than Crim and LG Kurt Cobain's Haircut (talk)
Message on Chat
I was having connection issues and lagged out of chat. Here is what I was trying to type out when I left chat:
Basically Charles V was emperor, and upon his death Ferdinand I was elected. He rides home from Frankfurt to Augsburg, then to Vienna, and is handed responsibility of managing a bunch of territories. Meanwhile his cousins and friends come to him expecting a cut. He looks at the list and sees that Frederick II's sons are doing an excellent job of running one of his territories; Pomerania. Frederick manages the place part time from his home in Hamburg and every month seems to send a great surplus (thank the expansion of the Baltic trade fleet and the construction of the Kiel Canal thing). The sons of Frederick are actually half Bavarian, and they're not happy. They just lost Poland, and have retreated to Pomerania (Think Targaryens). They want land to give to their children, and so they come to the emperor and nag him everyday. They gain their audience by appealing to the Margrave of Brandenburg, from the Brandenburgian line of Habsburgs, Lothar, who they pay homage to directly. Suddenly France invades and starts to overwelm territory in the west. In desperate need of cash to raise a large army, Ferdinand agrees to sell Pomerania to the House of Hamburg. Sure it leaves the north weak, but it gives him the money he needs to properly invade and will finally fulfill his promises to them. Not to mention the territory is better managed by the already established structure of the north where the government is closer.
Sorry about the delay with China. I haven't had internet access. Saamwiil, the Humble 17:14, July 22, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Scar wants me to ask you to look into the algo you did for him which Sky altered. Just so you know, I'm just the messenger and I don't care what you all do or who you kill. It's all the same to me. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:13, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
Edit War thing
Okay, sorry, I'll stop. It's just that it's so annoying having Crim absent like 99% of the time and I have very few ways to handle this + there's constant changes to an algo that was supposed to be finalized yesterday. Cookiedamage (talk) 17:12, July 25, 2014 (UTC)Here is how |onte should appear. (France is messing with my expansion, Darn Eurpeans!) Saamwiil, the Humble 05:15, July 26, 2014 (UTC)
Liberation of Sunda
I have made the decision that Rimp and TOB dont qualify for the 1.5 popular revolt bonus. Popular revolt requires most of the population to come up in arms. a Muslin revolt happened in his empire but there is no way they would be a majority yet. Not to mention all popular revolts (as ive said before) are instigated by mods, or if brought up verified by mods to prevent these sorts of things. So sucks for him but he doesnt qualify, not to mention he cant plausibly use all his vassals without them totally falling apart or collapsing not 1 year later. They simply arent large enough, ive gone and used the original algo he posted for the most part with a few alterations but im just letting you know since you worked on it and were complaining how messed up it it.
Hey Fed, I thought you might take interest the Second Age of Imperialism map game. As you may take notice, there are some spots reserved for users.
The users are selected on their reputation and map gaming experience. Because I have seen you as a suitable fit for one of these nations, I am offering you a spot as a reserved nation. Saturn (Talk/Blog) 20:50, August 2, 2014 (UTC)
On The Situation in the Ukraine
Sorry for getting your hopes up last time. I was a bit bored and popped on to say hi really. I did try to plan post irregularly as my nation but completely ran out of time. I'll be doing less now as I don't have a laptop (some guy stole it while I was travelling) but I may be popping online to give my two cents and maybe finally continue my own early ww1 timeline. My own timeline being my prefered option as I do learn a lot about history while I write it, whereas map games just get me mad most of the time. VonGlusenburg (talk to Von!) 20:00, August 7, 2014 (UTC)
Yea Fed, Steph has finally gone off the deep end and invaded me for no valid reason, do you think you can help out.
Royal Marriage Proposal
Hi, I'm contacting all the major nations in Europe in PM3 to tell you about some royal marriage proposals available this turn, for three different royal families. On my turn there are currently fifteen people who are looking for a spouse, simply reply to my turn as soon as you can to reserve a person. I will be looking over the proposals to try to avoid incest (although a little incest never killed nobody haha), and if you'd like to see family relations yourself, feel free to check out this page, where the family tree is located. If you would like further information or my recommendations for a particular person, message me back with your available children and their ages and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 15:47, August 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Feddy Bear! It's been time.
Listen, I know SM is in lock down and you deleted the HRE while extremely pissed at me...
But if I'm really nice, can I get that back?
00:57, August 13, 2014 (UTC)
Also, the time is ripe for working on ICW.
Come back, Feddy!
11:40, August 14, 2014 (UTC)
Dammit, Feds, I'm serious. Impo's not active and may never be again, and I really can't do this without you. If ICW is going to be anything, even on a MUCH smaller scale, I need your help.
16:19, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
Re: 'Strayn Questions
Ooh, good questions!
Depending on your POD, I do believe it would be possible to prevent Federation. In the 1870s there was a lot of opposition within the individual colonies to the idea of federation. New South Wales and Victoria were basically in a state of economic warfare, Queensland was devoted to sourcing unpaid (effectively slave) labour from the Pacific Islands, and Tasmania was afraid that Federation would effectively result in annexation due to the massive population difference. Western Australia was quite vehemently opposed to it, so much so that it does not appear in the preamble to the Constitution because it only decided to join at the eleventh hour. And after it did, secessionist feeling was high: a referendum on the subject in the 20s was passed by the population, but was refused by the Imperial government in London. The plans for federation were also notoriously fluid. In the start, New Zealand and Fiji were also going to join (New Zealand, unlike WA, does appear in the constitution's preamble).
So Yes, I think that not federating is definitnely a possibility. What PODs might you use? Remember that it would have to deal with the main motives for federation: 1) Fear that the small colonial armies would not be able to hold off a foreign invasion. The French establishment of a colony in New Caledonia and the German presence in New Guinea were both key events that led to this fear. It was believed that a federated continent with one, large-ish military would do better. 2) Ease of trade. Each colony had different tarriffs, and even different rail guages. Sugar travelling from Queensland to New South Wales would have to be unloaded from the train, checked by cutoms officials, and the tarriffs paid for before they could be loaded onto a NSW train for further transport.
Regarding the Aborigines and the White Australia Policy, the 1870s are far too late for the first, and probably too late for the second. By the '70s, Indigenous people had already been pushed off all the prime land, their fate was effectively sealed. I think that anti-Asian sentiment really began during the great goldrushes of the '50s, so the '70s are probably too late to reverse the trend. Anti-Pacific Islander sentiment was also strong, and also a major contributor. It should be noted that the big farmers and landholders (especially in the North of the country) were opposed to Immigration Restriction, because they beleved that using asian or PI workers was their only real option. If you could expand their influence in the colonial parliaments, it is possible that anti-immigration measures may not have been so severe.
Hi Fed, sorry for taking so long to get back to you, I've been a bit swamped this past week.
Given the geopolitical situation you describe, I think it very possible that a much looser confederation could be formed. If you see here, the otl Federal Council of Australasia may be a good template. An Australasian Union (including New Zealand and Fiji) would be more like the EU, and the FCA could just have oversight on custom and excise duties between the individual colonies, which could still have almost complete independence. They could even maintain their own militaries, with the FCA just acting as a co-ordinating body during times of war.
In terms of the Aboriginal Reservations you talk of...with a POD in the 1870s, I can't see any kind of reservation-style areas before the 1970s or 1980s. The reason is Terra Nullius. Unlike the Native Americans and the Maori of New Zealand, the Indigenous peoples of Australia did/do not have a kind of social system analogous to the European system. There are no Aboriginal chiefs or kings, no assemblies where decisions are made, they have no writing and no recognisable farming. So when Captain Cook arrived in 1770 and claimed the Eastern half of Australia for Britain, he saw no need to sign treaties with the natives, as it was believed that they weren't really using the land, and therefore had not right to it. This concept of the land being Terra Nullius was reinforced in 1835, when Governor Bourke (gov. of NSW) issued a proclamation stating that settlers could not buy land from the Indigenous people, because they had no right to it, and therefore it all belonged to the british crown. By the time of your POD, this doctrine was unchallenged, and besides, the majority of Indigenous Australians had been massacred or had died of diseases or alchoholism. Those that remained either lived in the cities, towns and cattle stations, or else lived traditional or semi-traditional lives in remote land unwanted by the whites. Callumthered (talk) 23:59, August 23, 2014 (UTC)
The First Apparition of the Lemming
Obviously I haven't been around in PM3 a while - and given my schedule (got into grad school and playing PM2 convinced me to start writing an actual novel in my free time :-P ) I doubt I shall be returning as a permanent player any time soon - just not in the cards. However, I noticed that you have been lovingly tending my beloved Nivkhs and their tasty pastries, and I wanted to thank you for that.
By all means keep driving Mangut Nivkhgu, but since the "lemmings are free to return", I thought I would check in and see if you wouldn't mind me checking in once in a while and writing guest entries for the Nivkhs (mostly just to stoke chaos and have fun - I'll sign the entries so if i do anything purposefully stupid, I get my own blame and you can pacify your insolent vassals in the next turn). This obviously would require you to maintain Mangut Nivkhgu as a quasi-independent state with some nominal power, but other than that I would stay out of your hair.
Thanks again, and may you be richly blessed with the hides of many guanacos! (oops, Selk'nam reference)
Lemming disappears in puff of smoke
Aegyptian Invasion in PM3
I have invaded the Aegyptian nation. Rex's pomposity of taking lands in exchange for access to his canal needs to be thwarted. If you can be my ally, send militaristic, naval, or economic support, it will be greatly appreciated. Please help, Aegypt's eastern half should once again be muslim/turkic/arabic. SwankyJ (talk) 13:16, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
Ze merger (if you agree)
I was thinking that our two parties merge, forming the following:
|Social Traditionalist Party|
Industria, patientia, humilitas!
|Chairperson||Lordganon (in absence Fed/Sky)|
|Secretary Chairman||Monster Pumpkin|
|Preceded by||Communist Party|
|Headquarters||TSPTF page (for now)|
|Ideology||Respect of the tradition|
|Official colors||Some kind of blue (0D6793)|
Of course the commies would first have to vote and discuss it, but hey, it's an idea.
Just wanted to check back in since it's been a week and thank you for letting me have the Nivkhs back - also I wanted to get our heads togehter sometime and go over future strategies so that I can stay out of your way and help you achieve a good balance of power in Asia. I have a rough idea of where I'm planning to go, and it should stay out of your hair for a while, but obviously I want our nations to be good friends and mutual partners. Speaking of which - if you'd like some form of formal alliance, I've always been good at playing the royal marriage game - so if any of your young princes are in need of an exotic Nivkh princess, I could have some serious fun arranging a match (I'll bring the pastry!). I'm also working another plan that may or may not prove useful do your foreign policy.
I'm around on chat today - although I probably won't be through the weekend.
P.S. You might want to watch that radical Mastarovan settlement in my far West. I'm not saying they're up to no good, just that I don't trust them :-)
Hello Fed, I was alerting you that you are invited to a new closed-group timeline by the name of Knightfall that was thought of by Guns and I. Basically in the TL, Ogedei Khan doesn't die right before the Mongols invade Western Europe and they go on to conquer much of the continent, as the Holy Roman Empire was weak at the time due to the College of Cardinals being busy electing a new Pope in Rome, with the current Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick II, camped outside the walls of Rome. If you are interested, feel free to sign up and we'll get the ball rolling soon hopefully.
I don't mean to start up a whole debate again, but I wanted to at least reply to your warning and explain myself, now that things have calmed down a bit. Firstly, I do not have a vendetta against NationInfo. I use it quite often, and I have plenty of pages on my profile that use it. Earlier this year I even copy and pasted some of my code from NationBox and sent it to NuclearVacuum to be used in NationInfo, because I wanted to help improve it. I honestly don't care what template you use in the slightest; NationInfo is a perfectly acceptable one. By the time you had joined the conversation, Guns and I had come to the agreement that you can use any template you want in Knightfall, and that was good enough for me. Tr0llis and yourself then began a discussion about NationBox; he asked what you didn't like about it, and you said it had too many details. As a side note, I can understand that, since NationBox was made to be an all inclusive type of thing, and has a lot of crazy stuff in there. While you were debating with Tr0llis I was mostly away, working on that template, while in the mean time he made the comparison to Apple, in terms of simplicity over functionality, and generally continued to talk about the matter. it was also during this time, I noticed, that you said my work was horrendous, which is what motivated me to consider changes. I however didn't mention NationBox, at least not after my initial conversation with Guns. The only thing I asked was "Fed what sort of information do you look for in an infobox, for a simplified design?" I asked this because I was genuinely curious, and wanted to possibly work on a new template that was more simplified. You replied "the normal NationInfo stuff" (or something like that), to which Tr0llis investigated further, by asking "Internet TLD, summer time zone?" etc. At which point I believe you got pretty mad at him, I was busy PMing him and talking about features. I made that template and was going to PM him in order to show him what I had in mind in terms of basic features, but just quickly put it in regular chat instead. That was probably a bad idea, but I didn't mean to be offensive or passive aggressive, and didn't think it would come off as such. Immediately when I saw your reaction my thoughts of friendly conversation on features and aesthetics diminished, and I canceled the talks about features I was going to have. Truth be told I just wrote the first things that came into my head; montage parodies, quotes from Oct, etc. The stuff about simplicity and "keep it simple" weren't about your intelligence, but about how I needed to keep the template simple. I didn't mean to insult, and I hope you are not offended by this. I can remove it if you want, but please note it wasn't some sort of attack against you, or nationInfo, but rather a joke/conversation starter, for a conversation I never had.
As for the vandalism on Zaire, all I did was remove the duplicate word. After Nuke had implemented the above mentioned code to NationInfo, it had the side effect of listing the capital city twice in some cases, so that on Guns' page it said "Kinshasa Kinshasa". This was only brought to my attention when Tr0llis posted the link, and when I saw it I figured I'd remove the duplicate word. Only after I had come back to chat did I see the warnings against editing, and I apologize for editing without permission. I didn't really think it was a big deal, and I figured it would be of good help. The matter was quickly blown way out of proportions and exaggerated. I wasn't purposely vandalizing, or attacking NationInfo, I was just removing a duplicate word. You can even check the history yourself.
I was a bit frustrated at this point, not at you or NationInfo, but at the fact that the situation was getting so twisted and out of context. Yes, I was being quite sarcastic, but it was in reply to the hysteria that was ensuing. When you threatened me with a year long ban, I acted nonchalant/disrespectful because I didn't feel like I had done anything that serious, but behavior like that still is out of line. For that reason I am sorry I was disrespectful and sarcastic about my ban. What I don't understand though is how Tr0llis can troll the chat for hours, be just as sarcastic and insulting, etc and get away free, while I am threatened with a year long ban, basically for grinding your gears. You said a template which said "euphoria" and "mexican" were offensive and bannable, but this was right after you called my word horrendous. That is the part I wonder about, although I realize there isn't really any reason to keep going.
Most of all I think I should let this matter go, and I apologize for the way I acted. I'm sorry I acted dumb, and sarcastic, and over the top. I hope that this doesn't take away from our cooperation on the wiki, and that we can still work together as friends. Thanks, Mscoree (talk) 02:14, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
Hey thanks for earlier, i dont know if i was out of line in terms of being pissed off or not but just wanted to come in and say thanks for whatever support you provided. All i can say is those kinds of actions in terms of a map game are really unbecoming of various TSPTF members as well as failing to recognize whats legitimate wrong with doing what they did. Anyways i think im taking a break from the wiki for a time being due to my mental breakdown yesterday over everything thats happened in the past few days. If anything is going on let me know
Hi there, I'd like to take over the article Extremadura, if you have no problems with that.
Thanks for all the help with the wiki in the last year!
I believe your message to me was confused for someone else. I have not spammed the wiki or committed these acts that you describe. I'm not sure what you mean by allies coming back to life from the dead, but I was never nominated for the TSPTF. You said in bold that I have the longest ban log of alternate history wikia history, but that can't possibly be true. I've been banned for like four days max. Tr0llis (talk)
When you get a chance, could you update me with important details regarding major ATL cities in the Tartary? I ask because that region has become a bit...contested...as of late and I want to make sure the ATL cities are taken into consideration with any planning.
Hi, I'm back!
Hey Fed, its Steph, I know its been awhile since I was last here, and on a different account too (yeah I lost the original one). I'll explain everything on chat. Wondering whats up in the Althist, maybe you can fill me in a bit. I hope The Tartary is doing well.
The Great Lakes
- Fedelede. I have adopted your timeline Spain Divided. Is it OK? --JorgeGG (talk) 20:50, July 5, 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks!!!. I am thinking of making a change on the name of the TL. Something employing Tagus (For the river). Any sugestion? JorgeGG (talk) 02:36, July 10, 2016 (UTC)
- Fedelede, I took the liberty renaming the timeline to Of Lions and Falcons. Initial credits are in the talk page. --JorgeGG (talk) 00:16, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
Hey Fedelede, I've only written one alternate history Wikia so far on Sicily, and I am really interested by your page on the Emirate of Sicily. I wanted to know if you're going to write more about it? Also what kind of a place is the other part of the island like in your alternate Sicily: the Christian republic part! -Anthony-VincentU.Sicilianu 02:18, August 12, 2016 (UTC)
come back to me bby
19:24, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
EoGuy Memorial Copy Writer Award
Name me Copy Editor Emeritus and take me out of the running.
That will give someone else a chance.
This is quear
I think you need to look in to this online troll site. They are foul mouthing the Wiki. https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistoryWiki/
00:53, September 12, 2017 (UTC)