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Re:UAR
Hello.
Yes. I did attempt to do a timeline about a successful and expansive UAR, but I gave up on it for one reason: It's unworkable (i.e., it's ASB).
The biggest flaw (IMO) with the UAR was that it wasn't so much an equal union between Egypt and Syria, rather it acted more like Egypt simply annexing Syria. All decisions were made in Cairo. Syrian politicans/governors had to reside in Cairo. This was all intended by Gamal Abdel Nasser (the founder of the UAR), so trying to have a POD where he changes things goes against his character.
Trying to change Nasser's potitions would be ASB (at least from what I've read). Hell, the leaders of the coup in Syria offered to Nasser to renegotiate the UAR so Syria would be more equal, and Nasser refused.
In order for the UAR to continue, you'd likely need Nasser to beef up his efforts in Syria to begin with (more allies and security to prevent a coup) or have him get involved militarily following the coup. This wouldn't make the UAR a federation or anything, but it would continue to exist. Perhaps the UAR could be decentralized in the post-Nasser era, which may give the Syrians (and any other members) more support in remaining.
As for how far the UAR could realistically expand. Along with Egypt and Syria, Iraq was effectively treating themselves as the "third state" following the end of their monarchy (hense their old flag). North Yemen was also close. Sudan also had interest in joining later pan-Arab federation projects, so they should be easy enough. I believe that's as far as you can go. Libya is a wild card, but I believe Gaddafi would rather rule his own pan-Arab state than join the UAR.
I hope this helps. -- NuclearVacuum 
04:29, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
RE: Questions on Brazil
Hello FS! Regarding the two questions:
1) They had a few similarities on their objectives: Both movements wanted to prevent the emergency of the oligarchic power (that is, most of the First Brazilian Republic). Both movements wanted the destitution of Floriano Peixoto, new elections, and the Maragatos (the Federalists) wanted a larger autonomy to the states, while the other rebel forces wanted equal rights between the Navy and the Army. If the movements defeat the loyalist forces, then perhaps Custódio de Melo would be the next President.
2) This one's a bit trickier, but that would probably happen if 1) the Communist Party had not been banned (as it was in 1947), and if 2) Vargas simply decided not to run for or influence the Brazilian political scenario, probably. The PCB before the ban was a very strong party, and it continued to be so throughout the 1950s. For an instance, the three most voted representatives for the Federal District (a.k.a. the city of Rio de Janeiro, at the time) in 1947 were communists. But still, you can approach the pro-Vargas Labour Party, who was the largest legalized left-wing party at the time, even though they rejected the socialist label.
You're welcome!
Mass (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, but just not by that, the Governor of Rio Grande do Sul Júlio de Castilhos was aligned with the Federal government in the Federalist Revolution, and his policies (Castilhismo) were very influential on Vargas too, as he was from the same state.
On This Day
Honestly, if you feel that On This Day would be improved by adding a Cherry Plum event to a template, feel free. I do think that one event per day is just better for the main page, but you're more than welcome to replace one with Cherry Plum. Alternative History:On This Day/Templates has guidelines at the top that explain my thoughts in choosing events, and how to make changes. False Dmitri (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Vietnamese PM
Sorry for annoying you for a while but here's the PM of VN from 1945 until now:
- Nguyen Phuc Vinh San (1945-47) - Independent
- Ngo Dinh Diem (1948-50, 1955-59, 1960-63) - Nationalist
- Ho Huu Tuong (1950-55) - Socialist
- Duong Bach Mai (1963-73) - Socialist (later United Socialists, a merger of Socialist and Kirovist-Bukharinist Communist Party)
- Nguyen Van Thieu (1973-75) - Military (as Chairman of the Military Council)
- Cao Van Vien (1975-86) - Military (as Chairman of the Military Council)
- Duong Van Minh (1986-91) - Military, later Nationalist Party
- Transitional Council (led by 6 to 7 men: GEN Giap, GEN Dung, Nguyen Van Linh, Vo Van Kiet, Nguyen Van An, Nguyen Ba Can and Vu Van Mau) (1991-94)
- Nguyen Van An (1994-2004) - Democratic Assembly
- Nguyen Tan Dung (2004 - 2011) - Nationalist
- (acting) Ho Duc Viet (2011-14) - National Democratic
- Nguyen Phu Trong (2014-19) - Democratic Assembly/Socialist
- Vu Duc Dam (2019 - present) - Democratic Assembly
That's all for now. - 1234chernobyl (talk) 09:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Politicians
In addition to Nguyen Dinh Tu, I also want to talk about Nguyen Khoa Diem (Nguyễn Khoa Điềm) (1943-). Now, he was known more as a popular poet, but I think his political career is one should be also concentrate. The political career was closely connected to his literary career, too. He was a member of the VIII and IX Central Committee and a Politburo member of the IX Congress. Now in 2000, he was the Secretary of the Vietnam Writers' Association, which absolutely must be a CC member. Also at the same time he was Minister of Culture and Information (responsible for censorship of literature and press, but during his time, there was a scale of liberalization, although not as big as the 90's). Later he became Secretary of Ideology and Culture of the CC in 2001, coincide with the time with reformist politicians like Phan Van Khai, Nguyen Van An. He retired in 2006.
Now, I think he's a reformer, a liberalizer in some perspectives and in YTL, he could be a center-left activists, and an advocate for moderate liberalization. - XYZ
Other notes:
Now, since you are not in the discord now, so I will send some notes here:
- About the Vietnamese society, I could say like this. Regards to the behavior of the majority of Vietnamese people in social media, I could say it is pretty bad, and could be one of the most toxic ones (especially when the Vietnamese football team has a match). If you have seen AFC tweets or in Instagram or even Facebook (I know you quit SNS for a long time), you will see some of the most toxic comments (I've screenshotted a few for you in Discord) (maybe even with comments regards to personalities). The reason for this was the radical nationalism and fanaticism. Which led to number 2, nationalism. When ever there's an opportunity to show Vietnam's prestige in areas such as Asia or even the World, most of the Vietnamese people all unite for it (especially with some specific sports). However, in peacetime (or back to new normalcy), we can see a deep division in Vietnamese society. This is from my observation. (Also, you can ask Doubledguy, he's from Hai Phong, so he can give you more persective of a Vietnamese living in minor cities)
- For VCP, you can see that Trong became older and older, even his speaking became slower (which has been slow already). There are some alternatives for him. The first one is President Nguyen Xuan Phuc. He was a technocrat in economy and foreign policy, and somehow considered more friendly and honest than Trong, which made him more popular than the former. The second alternative is Pham Minh Chinh. If Nguyen Xuan Phuc is more liberal half, the Chinh could be a strongman who can ensure social stability (as proved when he was the Secretary of Quang Ninh province and his tenure as Deputy Minister of Public Security). Vuong Dinh Hue is a more plausible candidate (2 latest Gensek had been National Assembly speaker, which could made it a no.2 position sometimes). He was a moderate, who can get a consensus between the conservatives and the reformists. Another one is Vo Van Thuong, Second Secretary of the CC (Executive Secretary of the Secretariat). He was sharp-minded, and a pragmatist, somewhat like Gomulka. He was also young, that's an advantage.
Now, those are the notes regards to Vietnamese politics that I could give. Have a nice evening. - XYZ
Imperial Machines
You've missed a couple of pings on Discord. Please pause your deletions of Imperial Machines pages. When we discussed it earlier, consensus was to keep the timeline but remove any blatantly offensive content. I think it's best to save timelines whenever possible. False Dmitri (talk) 14:12, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Re: Dukakis official portrait
yes....really, that recent portrait didn't look very good compared to the first one, I just wanted to put it as it would be (but it didn't look good '~'). I already reverted. Aquiles Paraiso (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Aquiles Paraizo
I fixed it...
I fixed FakeTimes, can you un-nominate this for deletion? ----
S.U affairs
The 2021 Russian federal election had ended. As always, Yedina Rossiya won with a supermajority. I wanted to talk about Anna Kuznetsova, the future Deputy Chairwoman of Russian State Duma. As I read briefly about her, it was known that she was supported by Volodin, who in your TL, the first-ranked Politburo member and de facto leader of the Soviet Union. In this case, she could be some kind of Youth leader in TTL. There's also Viktor Pinskiy, the (probably) dept. chairman of the State Duma. A former member of the Presidium of the General Council (an equivalent to Secretariat) of the YR, he could be someone who could head a bloc of Communist and non-communists (somewhat equivalent to ONR). Another liberal who could be in the Secretariat or Politburo is Boris Fyodorov, a proponent of the 500 Days program. Mikhail Kasyanov could take a seat in either Politburo and Secretariat due to his competency. He could take a First Deputy PM position in charge of Economic sector due to his competency in finance.
That's all for now - Black Eagle of Pripyat
Report
Nothing in your TL was vandalized. No one edits it other than you. (This was based on your request on the 16th of October).
Vandalism
Just in case you didn't see the Discord message...
Two days ago we had a serious vandal attack while the Americans were all sleeping. If you can, it would be good if you can check wiki activity today and for the next few days from your timezone, just in case they come back. It would save us cleanup time later. Thanks, False Dmitri (talk) 06:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Adoption
I followed the procedures and messaged the author and posted on the talk page!!! I received no objections so I adopted the timeline. Robballgamer2009 (talk) 15:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
This is a warning that you have been reported to a reputable admin. You are an admin and must be held to a high standard. You must know that the adoption rules state you must wait 1 WEEK not 2! Your attempt to undo my edits and stop me when I had legally adopted the timeline is vandalism and illegal!!! That is unimpoirtant now because I VOLUNTARILY gave up ownership of the timeline, but if I hadn't you would literally be banned right now for vandalism. In fact you should probably be thanking me that I only requested a warning for you nto a ban. Robballgamer2009 (talk) 01:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Marhaban 'akhi! Why can't I join Cherry plumb timeline? Robballgamer2009 (talk) 07:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I never said you were an arab. That is just a traditional greeting that I use. No one said I couldn't join, hence my confusion. Also no need to laugh at me with the "Lol". You deleted my name from the list so I started writing you a message, hence I didn't see you re-add me soon after....but then you deleted me again?
Stop calling me a troll OR I WILL REPORT YOU!!!! That is an insult, why are you being rude? I wanted to join the timeline to help make pages. I wasnt necessarily going to make a "Robball" page, and I was going to follow the proposal system. But now you're being rude to me for no reason, yet telling me to "behave myself"? Robballgamer2009 (talk) 07:27, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I am perfectly chill, that is just the manner in which I speak. YOU are the one who needs to chill, especially as youre an admin. You call me names and insult me to my face....why? Is that productive or becoming of this community? What purpose do your insults have other than to make me upset, and then you act like I'm in the wrong for feeling upset? I respect your decision to decide who can join your timeline and always have, but that's no way to talk to a fellow peer of the wiki. Shameful display
- Robert
Well...
Things are changed significantly after all those months. It changes what we build for years. I guess the TL may have some reflection of current events. That's all for now. - 1234chernobyl (talk) 16:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Pascua Florida, Re-Adoption
I'm curious if I might re-adopt my old timeline Pascua Florida. I handed it over to you almost exactly one year ago, April 2021. Dieua-Artio (talk)
Thank you kindly for the re-adoption permission. Dieua-Artio (talk)
Afghanistan proposal
Just thought I would rereply to your comment here since it seems you didn't receive a notification from my reply to your comment on my talkpage.
The overall idea I had so far is similar to your idea of a lot of communist countries still existing in our modern day world, since at one point in OTL Afghanistan was communist. Basically, my idea for Afghanistan in your ATL is mainly that the Soviet Union doesn't invade Afghanistan in 1979, and in the 1980s and '90s, Afghanistan follows the USSR's lead and initiates some minor political reforms to establish a stabilised system.
I can fully understand if this idea conflicts with the ideas of your timeline, since well it's your timeline, but overall that's my idea.
Sincerely, Rosie ThatAlternateHistoryLad5 (talk) 18:01, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Request for deleting categories
Could you please delete the following categories, which I created some two and a half years ago but were of no use?
- Category:Additional continents or islands
- Category:Additional habitable worlds
- Category:Alternate climates
- Category:Completely different landmasses
- Category:Geographical disasters
- Lnobse (talk) 03:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Cherry, Plum, and Chrysanthemum
Hi there again! Thanks for the reply! Hope you're having a good day!
- Honestly, I fully understand your decision, and I will remember next time not to make any edits on your timeline without discussing first as per the CPC rules. It is a semi-open timeline after all and I fully respect that.
- As for Ireland, I can understand why you reverted the changes. It honestly makes sense, and especially since Ireland remains under British influence, Ireland realistically probably would have a lot more English-speaking people than OTL. But then again, that's what I think now.
- Personally, I use link templates often when I'm either in source editing mode or I just can't be bothered to type out the full name of the timeline. It also looks more organised from a source editing perspective, but then again that's just me haha.
Hopefully no hard feelings about the editing issue and that we can move on. :) ThatAlternateHistoryLad5 (talk) 18:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)