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Contents
- 1 Duplication
- 2 RotA as Libya
- 3 Stronger Together
- 4 Thinking
- 5 Ideas
- 6
- 7 RE:PM4
- 8 Re:Egypt
- 9 Re:Help
- 10 Thanks
- 11 Political Simulation
- 12 Re:Egypt PMIV
- 13 Age of Chaos
- 14 RE: Ages in Chaos
- 15 Re:Prussia
- 16 Re:United Kingdom
- 17 Note
- 18 Re:UK
- 19 RE: The Great Peace
- 20 Re:Algeria
- 21 Origo Mundi
- 22 French Departments
Duplication
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19:04, August 9, 2016 (UTC)
RotA as Libya
Hey, I am the mod for RotA and I know your kind of new to map games, I just want you to know some of the mod events are a reaction to your policies and I don't want you to feel like I am bullying the new guy but I mean your decisions are quite bold and I just want to tell you that you can take a more conventional line because some of the more recent turns you have done are quite unconventional. Person67 (talk) 20:37, December 31, 2016 (UTC)
Your choice, if you want to pick another nation feel free, if not you can play as Libya. Person67 (talk) 19:31, January 12, 2017 (UTC)
support the tamil tigers plz Bibleboyd316 (talk) 19:57, January 16, 2017 (UTC)
Stronger Together
Hello FranzJoseph24,
Due to your absence, I was interested in the topic of your timeline and followed the wiki's adoption policy to take official control of your timeline. I've made extensive edits to the timeline, since I was granted ownership of it. If you wish to discuss this more, please contact me on my talk page.
United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 19:14, July 29, 2017 (UTC)
Sure, I'll give you credit for starting the timeline. That's fair.
United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 19:23, July 29, 2017 (UTC)
Would you mind telling me what you had planned?
United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 19:39, July 29, 2017 (UTC)
Planned for the TL
United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 21:23, July 29, 2017 (UTC)
Thinking
After lots of thinking, I've decided that I will move all the pages I created to a new timeline I will called Shattered. You may have full ownership of Stronger Together, however give me a couple of days so I can transfer everything I made into the new timeline.
Thank you, United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 02:50, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
Well what ideas were you planning on taking? I'd prefer not because I don't want our timelines to be too similar. United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 22:22, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
I'd prefer not, you should think of your ideas so it is your timeline. Plus, it'd be more interesting for the community as a whole because we'd have differing opinions as to what would've happened in this scenario. United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 18:55, July 31, 2017 (UTC)
Ideas
Hello,
I thought we agreed that you would not use my ideas from Shattered, so that we can have two diverse timelines?
United Republic Talk Contribs King of America 00:37, August 3, 2017 (UTC)
RE:PM4
Hello Joseph!
Maghreb is definitely available, and as I had a hand of its creation in the game, I'll give you some background:
It started as the Hafsid Sultanate at the start of the game in 1400, but went into decline due to European invasions. In 1418 it was conquered by the Abbasid Caliphate, who deposed the Hafsids and annexed it. Castile conquered Morocco in 1401, and after many revolts it eventually became a constituent kingdom of the Crown Iberian Union in 1470, as the Kingdom of Morocco. In 1529, the Abbasids conquered Morocco, deposed Catholic rule, and annexed the region. The whole region was then released as the vassalized Sultanate of Maghreb in 1531. Maghreb remained a vassal of the Caliphate, even after the Abbasids were overthrown with the Rashidun in 1599. In 1718, the Rashidun collapsed and Maghreb became independent.
Maghreb has a very advanced navy, and at one point had colonies in Laurentia (OTL South America), as well as a large hegemony over most of West Africa.
Europe is pretty much as advanced as OTL at the same time, with industrialization mainly focused in Britain with proto-industrial technology across the rest of Europe, the most powerful nations being Iberia, France, Scandinavia, and Belka.
If you have any other questions, let me know :) Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 22:21, August 23, 2017 (UTC)
Hey Joe,
Maghreb is ruled by a dynasty of Berber african Muslims, intermarried with the original dynasty put into power by the Abbasids known as the Zayidis (which is entirely ATL). Tunis is currently owned by Belka, as repriation for returning various other cities to Maghreb which were previously taken by Italy. In the past, Maghreb would give rent port cities to France and Iberia in exchance for alliances, so that is not anything new.
As far as I know, the colonies all fell to attacks by rival colonial powers like Iberia, France, Burgundy and Britain. In America, last I saw Maghreb had colonies in OTL Tierra de Fuego, Pantagonia, and Florida. Idk which if any Maghreb still has, so you may consult the map or the mapmaker General. In Africa, anything Maghreb lost at this point only went back to native African empires. As for pirates, I find that completely plausible, but different nations may react differently to it, so be careful. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 23:25, August 24, 2017 (UTC)
Joseph,
Both Maghreb and Egypt are open as far as I know. However, be sure they are not currently at war, as people are not allowed to join nations that are currently at war with mod events Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 23:36, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
Hello FranzJoseph, please contact me on our Discord server to discuss Egypt in PMIV.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 20:47, September 30, 2017 (UTC)
https://discord.gg/e8PUqj Use this. Leave your username on my wiki talk page when you join.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 19:02, October 1, 2017 (UTC)
Re:Egypt
No such titles in Egypt.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 16:56, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
Re:Help
your turn for the most part is good, but generally no you can expand it into the Suez or make the Suez, the Suez canal was built by one of the premier industrial powers of the day and requires some of the best industrial tech in the world at the time on top of the correct types of trained people to make it happen. Doesnt help were also about 50 years ahead of it right now and cant do much.
Generally i think your better off trying to avoid industrializing for now since the attempt with little to no industrial resources may as well just bankrupt you and cause all sorts of hell which is part of what happened OTL. the King tried to industrialized and Egypt having no true industrial resources went bankrupt and got occupied. -Feud
Thanks
Thanks for pointing out my blog errors! Just one question do you think it’s good now? Ps my blog is realistic WW3 in 2017 --~~blacksugarlv~~
Political Simulation
Yes, it is open to join. I'm just still tweaking some of the rules and such, but once enough people join we should begin. Your character sounds fine (I'm probably going to change the point system around a bit), just make sure your character is fictional overall, i.e. based on Alexander Hamilton but with a different name or background.
As for how the game will work, I'm thinking that every turn will be perhaps half a year, and will begin with mod events that function as headlines on the country and the world at large. Then every turn a page will be created for an election (if there is one), sessions of congress, meetings, etc, that players will post to in order to debate and vote and such. But again I'm still working out the specifics, so if you have any ideas feel free to let me know.
Also if you can please spread the word if you're on the discord so more people see the game and we can start soon. Thanks, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 21:12, December 5, 2017 (UTC)
The game starts in 1796 and just continues from there until the present, or until the game dies out basically. 1796 is essentially the point of divergence; all the events that took place up to that point happened similarly, but from there anything can happen. So perhaps similar parties, events, etc may rise up, or completely different ones may. As for OTL people, all the characters that people make have to be fictional as per the rules, however, presumably unplayable people from before the POD exist, like for example George Washington existed.
No, you can't just sign up as the president. In the rules section it says which kind of characters you can play as, and from there you must win an election to become the president. The reason why the president spot and others are empty is because they are going to be vacancies that need to be filled in 1796.
James Clarkson is fine. Any English/American name from this time period would be acceptable.
Hope that helps, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 22:49, December 6, 2017 (UTC)
Hi, are you still interested in joining the game? Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 20:24, December 14, 2017 (UTC)
Re:Egypt PMIV
Muhammad Ali is a great leader. You can request tier upgrades on the talk page or by communicating with a mod. In order to receive an upgrade you must change things in your nation in your posts, in order to provide evidence why you should be upgraded. Tiers are here.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 22:55, December 7, 2017 (UTC)
Age of Chaos
Hello i want to talk about Age of chaos on discord if posible to sort out the problems going on at the moment
Vinnyus Proletariërs aller landen, Verenig u! 
16:54, December 21, 2017 (UTC)
RE: Ages in Chaos
Hello Joseph,
That sounds pretty cool, and I may try to put some easter egg in there, but if you really want that to play out you should probably ask the player of Byzantium, Reximus Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 19:56, December 24, 2017 (UTC)
Re:Prussia
I don't have a lot of information about long-term Prussian history, for that you should ask Nkbeeching. In more recent years, Prussia has mostly been inactive since it didn't have a player. I believe the ruling house is the Hohenzollerns. Prussia at the start of the 19th century was conquered by Napoleon's Germany (who were being helped by Poland) but were freed again by the collapse of Germany. Prussia is anti-Saxony and anti-Rhineland since those nations are pro-Napoleonic. Prussia has something of an independent streak.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 04:44, January 28, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah your on the list. Person67 (talk) 16:30, February 7, 2018 (UTC)
Re:United Kingdom
Hello franzjoseph! Yes of course you may! I’ve seen you play in PMIV, and I can say you up for the job! We needed a UK player for sometime now, so this will help us a lot! Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 12:22, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
Yes you may! I understand that you probably are busy day, so yes, you may make a 1922 turn. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 20:48, July 6, 2018 (UTC)
Note
I am playing as British Raj.
Don't worry, I will be loyal.
Your new partner,
Warrior
Re:UK
That is alright, I understand. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 19:09, July 10, 2018 (UTC)
RE: The Great Peace
Hey Franz! Thank you for taking interest in my nation :) I really liked your play as Britain as well, so I'm sorry that personal issues have come up for you, but I hope they are resolved well.
Generally yes, I am capitalizing on the prototype Arab natioanlism that was centered on the Hashemites in order to facilitate general popular support for the people. I also rely, as you mentioned, on the legal precedent from British correspondences that promised an independent Arab state in the Levant. However, there are flaws that I have to keep aware of. Just before the game began in 1919 there was a revolt of the Alawites in northern Syria, who are Shia, and therefore are a little harder to control. I'm also doing my best to contain the inevitable problems of Jewish Zionism in Palestine, but that can only go so far.
Currently, I am dividing the Middle East between three Hashemite Kings: Faisal of Syria/Levant, Abdullah of Iraq, and Ali of Hejaz/Arabia. Later on I intend to unit these together under a single monarchy, probably in the 1930s. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 22:34, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
Hey Franz,
I do plan on giving the Zionists in Palestine some level of autonomy, to the extent of OTL autonomous regions such as Iraqi Kurdiastan or Tibet. Hopefully that will be enough, but who knows what may happen in mod events once we get to the late 1930s or 1940s.
I feel very strongly in keeping Islam centralized, without leading to sectarianism, and as such I do not plan on creating a Hashemite Caliphate. Besides which, MP specifically did not abolish the Caliphate as Kemal did OTL, so there isn't really the same opportunity. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 21:01, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
Re:Algeria
Yes it is, you may play as it. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 01:32, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
Origo Mundi
Hi, would you mind messaging me on discord so I can send you your starting map for Origo Mundi? If you're unable to get on the discord let me know, and I can send you it in a different way. Thanks, Vandenhoek (talk) 23:07, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
The problem is the maps need to be secret so I can't really upload them here. I was thinking you could meet me on the live chat:
https://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat
And I could send you a link to a Google Doc containing your maps.
Or you could send me an email address if you want and I could add you to the document that way.
Thanks, Vandenhoek (talk) 17:09, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
If you are able to get onto the discord my name there is also Vandenhoek. In the meantime here's a Google Doc link, and hopefully no one will read this and also click it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sd_WmYDO2E0xj06sb3pEjgjj9jrsNWl_9xgHww_iI3Q/edit
And once you're on there you could always type in your email there since it's more private, and I can lock down the doc to only your email. Vandenhoek (talk) 16:23, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I haven't seen you post, so I was just wondering if you were still playing. If you are busy just let me know, also let me know if you are having trouble viewing your map. Thanks, Vandenhoek (talk) 22:36, October 18, 2018 (UTC)
French Departments
No If its listed as "French" anything currently it is still a colony under French Management. Until decolonization or someone takes it away. Feudy McPlagueface (talk) 01:51, August 29, 2019 (UTC)
If you ask Falcon who is going to be playing France you can. Otherwise they unplayable until some sort of insurrectionist or major independence movement breaks out. Feudy McPlagueface (talk)
what nation are you?