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I was wondering if you would like to write an article for Great Nuclear War. Therubbleoroursins (talk) 04:41, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

On a side note, the Beatles actually survived in Hamburg. I have an Idea for a totalitarian state in the Ruins of Memphis, Tennesee. It's called New Memphis, gets harassed by the black army and klu klux klan. We can talk more if that doesn't interest you. Therubbleoroursins (talk) 19:00, April 20, 2016 (UTC)


Greetings. Recently, you have uploaded a file on this site that is a duplication of another. Please keep in mind that many of the files found across Wikimedia have also been uploaded to this site — all under the same names and types. These files can easily be found by searching for the file's name in the search bar. If you are using the "visual" mode for editing and uploading, please be advised that you will be required to use underscores (_) instead of spaces when searching for a file (e.g., "Flag_of_Canada.svg" and not "Flag of Canada.svg" [do not forget to add the file type within the name]). In the event that the file you require is not already uploaded to this site, it would be very appreciated that you upload the standard file used on Wikimedia as a courtesy to current and future users.

The following uploads have have been removed from this site, and have been replaced with the following correct files:

Please try not to let this happen again. Do not re-upload this file or remove this message from your talk page. Be advised that while this message is simply a warning, continuing to upload duplications will result in the temporary suspension of your account. Thank you for your cooperation. -- NuclearVacuum Russian America 03:43, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

It was my mistake, I was trying to add South Africa's flag to Act of Ambition but I didn't no how to make it smaller. That was my mistake. -- Mr.Orwell
No need to worry. You have doing everything perfectly and this was clearly a simple mistake. This is simply a warning and a reminder (nothing more). -- NuclearVacuum Russian America 01:19, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hi Orwell.

I hate to do this but you duplicated several files. As such you have been banned for a short time. Please refrain from doing this in the future and please try to search for files before uploading them. Try checking the category of the nation in question first.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 23:15, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

The block is for one day as of now, but it will increase for each further duplication. Please search for flags next time, and don't be afraid to ask for help. 

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 00:09, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Will you at least put the flags back as my only request. And while you add it why not add the new flags to that of Britain's colonies like Nigeria and Kenya. -- Mr.Orwell

Third/Fourth Duplication (No Block)

Sorry to say, but only admins can remove files. Regardless, I still would've noticed (so no need to go hiding it).

That being said, I have no intention of blocking you for this (as you clearly realized your mistake).

Now that I'm able to talk with you about this, what appears to be the problem? Monster told me you uploaded seven duplications the other day and now this? I really want to help you out so this will cease to be an issue. Before you upload anything else, may you please explain to me what you are trying to accomplish with all these uploads and what difficulties you are having. This will allow me to figure out how to help you out. -- NuclearVacuum Russian America 23:50, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Im just adding flags to the Act of Ambition Map Game and I posted some flags which I clearly didn't look up, and now I know I must be thorough when I look up these things. -- Mr.Orwell

Do you need assistance on how to look up files? I can try and be more clearer in explaining it once again? -- NuclearVacuum Russian America 23:58, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I know how to add pictures and I search partial words and sometimes find what I want, and when I added the Gambia to the British colonies list I had to look up the Gambia on the wiki. So about files, I think a step by step message could work. -- Mr.Orwell

I will do my best to explain what to do. It should be noted that his is how to search for files on this site and how to (hopefully) find and use them using the "VisualEditor" mode (which is what I believe you are using). Though I will try and explain for all possible scenarios.

Here we go
  1. Go onto Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons and locate the exact file you wish to use. Example Link.
  2. Locate and copy the file's URL. Example:
  3. On the page you are editing, select the "Image" tool. In the search box, paste the URL of the file you desire. The majority of the time, if the file you desire is indeed on this site, it should appear automatically.
If the Desired File Fails to Show Up
  1. Return to the desired URL (step 2 from before). Rather than copying the entire URL, only select and copy the ending portions which possess the file's actual name (everything after the colon [:]). Example: Flag_of_Canada.svg
  2. Past this portion of the URL into the search box and try again. Now you should [hopefully] see the desired file. Select and use.
If Both of These Systems Fail to Find Anything
  1. This usually means the desired file does not exist or [rarely] was renamed by Wikimedia and now lost within our systems. Either way, go ahead and upload the file you wish to use.

I do hope this helps you out. Please let me know if it works or if you need more help. -- NuclearVacuum Russian America 00:36, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the instruction, I am going to use that as a backup if I cant find any pictures. -- Mr.Orwell

Act of Ambition This is a notifcation to say Act of Ambition (Map Game) the map game which you signed up for has started and therefore you can now post your first turn on this new game. Person67 (talk) 18:04, May 31, 2016 (UTC)


Act of Ambition

Talk to me on chat. Wrto12 (talk) 12:58, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Colonial Standpoint

Hey Orwell, thanks for messaging me. Firstly, as a tip, use four tildes or the signature button to sign your posts on talk pages so people can easily contact you back. Secondly, the Teutonic Confederation is not Scandinavian, it is German. Thirdly, Kawaii, who is the creator of that country, has had extensive talks with me about how it is a Teutonic colony. The Teutons are German. I hope this clears things up for you. Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 04:22, June 14, 2016 (UTC)


Hello Game of Nations player!

Now that turn one is done (Turn to starts Saturday) I have recognized the need for a more comprehensive way to plan events that involve more than one nation. So, if you would like to propose a past event, such as a war, Nation formation, or other event, please use the link I have provided below. Note that this only applies to events that involve more than one nation, so you are still free to make events that only pertain to your nation.

Thanks for playing Game of Nations, and I hope it continues to be a fun experience!

-Two wrongs don't make a right, but I'm an a**hole, So what did you expect?



Sorry could you actually do the Italics and Bold because at current nothing is bold or Italic.Well accept America. The Epic Dragon (talk) 01:25, June 23, 2016 (UTC)


your turn. ~Fires

Flag of the FSA

Just letting you know that you recently uploaded a flag of the "Federated States of Antarctica" and renamed it "Wellington". Be aware that this flag is one I personally designed and that I don't appreciate you renaming it.

You also did a similar thing to the proposed flag of New Zealand, renaming it "Fascist New Zealand" or something to that effect. This pattern of uploading files and renaming them to fit your timeline is not allowed. If any file you upload is not 100% yours, do not rename them to fit your own timelines. Please try not to let this happen gain. Thank you. -- NuclearVacuum Russian America 02:35, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Ok sorry I just found them on the internet and I did know the Antarctic one was yours. Sorry ill try not to let these incidents happen again.--Orwell


I can't work on the TL with you.


Hi chris its dylan from camp Mr.Orwell2 (talk) 17:11, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

Southern Independence Questions

Hello, Orwell. I don't think the US will have to pay reparations. However, they would be in a bad situation; the Union is financially drained from the war, they lost a good deal of their military, and of course there was the humiliation of defeat.

About Bel, I think she is close enough to the edits required to play as Morrocco, since she has a good rep.

--Orange (→My wall!←) 02:53, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

As for the first question, I'm not one to answer that; it depends on the actions of the Confederacy, not to mention whether or not World War I would even happen (it all depends on German unification); you could set up a puppet regime in Liberia, but you would have the recoquer it first, since it has already gained independence. As for your second question, I again am not one to answer; it all depends on the actions of the players.

--Orange (→My wall!←) 03:04, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Great Nuclear War

So a little birdie told me that you thought you might like to contribute to Great Nuclear War in the area of the Oceania and South Africa. You also thought it could turn out like 1983:Doomsday but if Australia hadn't been hit and South Africa didn't collapse. Also you wanted to make it so Rhodesia would still exist and not turn into Zimbabwe. Now as you may know I am a close confidant to Therubbeloroursins and thus I have asked him about it. So know I can safely say you can make the articles listed above. But they will need to be canonized first and also they will need to be De-Doomsday:1983-ifed. Yes that's right the timeline has a strict anti-doomsday:1983 policy in order to keep the timeline unique so people don't compare it to DD:1983 or cal, it a copy of DD:1983. The.Brick.Battle (talk) 01:18, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, man, when are you going to start the Little Bit of Soul game? DarthNicky (talk) 13:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

On Using My Images

Hi. First off, I'd like to say I'm not angry at you in any way. Actually, I'm pretty glad that someone's reading my dinky little TL. Nonetheless, if you want to use an image I made, I'd appreciate you telling me first. Not for permission or anything, (I can't think of a circumstance where I would be upset at someone using an image of mine), just so I know. A quick note on my talk page would be sufficient. Regards, The Guardian of Forever (talk) 23:19, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

This one:


On the America's Great War TL. The Guardian of Forever (talk) 23:27, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not upset, and there's no way I would deny you access to stuff I made. I just like to know for my own personal reasons, but you're probably right. Let's forget this silliness ever happened. Regards, The Guardian of Forever (talk) 23:34, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Australasia Map

Ah, my apologies. However, I'd like to make it so that Cygnia takes up the little triangular tip that extends from South Australia, as Adelaide is located in that area. It has already been well established that the Adelaide area is part of Cygnia. I will bring the borders back to the extent you suggested, but I'd prefer if in addition that particular area was also part of Cygnia. Thanks — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 02:25, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, well, I suppose Adelaide ATL can be moved further west. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 04:19, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

South Africa in TBAC

Hey Orwell,

Based on historical maps I've looked at for the Dutch South Africa settlement, I think the country would expand to OTL South Africa, Lesotho, Namibia, and Botswana. Thanks for contributing!

--Orange (talk) 17:00, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like the Portuguese colonists over in Mozambique would expand into OTL Zimbabwe. The Dutch may not expand into the Boer Republics, because the Boer Republics were a direct result of the British conquest of South Africa from the Dutch.

--Orange (talk) 17:50, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Very true. With the absence of the British, the Dutch would get much larger slices of Africa in the Scramble. I'll look into some research on the Great Trek.

--Orange (talk) 18:04, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

JOW world map

Here's the proposed 2016 world map for Joan of What. I've also made a list of all the nations in the world. JOW world map present.png


  • Archduchy of Austria (Erzherzogtum Österreich)
  • Kingdom of Bulgaria (Царство България)
  • Commonwealth of England
  • Czech Republic (Česká Republika)
  • French Republic (République Français)
  • German Empire (Deutsches Reich)
  • Kingdom of Greece (Βασίλειον τῆς Ἑλλάδος)
  • Kingdom of Hungary (Magyar Királyság)
  • Republic of Ireland (Éire)
  • Kingdom of Italy (Regno d'Italia)
  • Kingdom of the Netherlands (Koninkrijk der Nederland)
  • Ottoman Empire (دولت عليه عثمانیه)
  • Kingdom of Portugal (Reino de Portugal)
  • Kingdom of Romania (Regatul României)
  • Russian Republic (Российская Республика)
  • Republic of Scotland
  • Kingdom of Spain (Reino de España)
  • Swiss Confederation (Confoederatio Helvetica)
  • Vatican City
  • Kingdom of Yugoslavia (Kraljevina Jugoslavija)


  • Kingdom of Afghanistan
  • Arabian Empire
  • Kingdom of Bhutan
  • Republic of China
  • Grand Confederation of Garudan Sovereign Republics
  • Kingdom of Persia
  • Empire of Japan
  • Kingdom of Nepal
  • Kingdom of Oman
  • Republic of Korea
  • Republic of India
  • Republic of Indochina
  • Kingdom of Siam
  • Kingdom of Yemen


  • Republic of Algeria (República de Argelia)
  • Republic of Cameroon (República de Camerún)
  • Republic of the Congo (Republik Kongo)
  • Ethiopian Empire (የኢትዮጵያ ንጉሠ ነገሥት መንግሥተ)
  • Republic of Gambia (República de Gambia)
  • Republic of the Gold Coast (República de Costa de Oro)
  • Republic of Madagascar (République du Madagascar)
  • Republic of Mozambique (República de Moçambique)
  • Republic of Nigeria (Jamhuriyar Taraiyar Nijeriya)
  • Rio de Oro
  • Union of South Africa (Unie van Zuid-Afrika)
  • Republic of the Sudan (جمهورية السودان)
  • Republic of Tanganyika (Republik Tanganyika)
  • Togolese Republic (Republik Togo)
  • Republic of Tunisia (República de Túnez)
  • Union of West Africa (Unión de África Occidental)

North America

  • Republic of Alaska (Республика Аляски)
  • Caribbean Union (Unión del Caribe)
  • Republic of Louisiana (République Louisienne)
  • United States of New Netherland (Verenigde Staten van Nieuw Nederland)
  • Valoisian State (État Valoisienne)
  • Republic of Vinland (Republikk Vinland)
  • Mexican Empire (Imperio Mexicano)

South America

  • Republic of Argentina (República Argentina)
  • Plurinational State of Bolivia (Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia)
  • Empire of Brazil (Império do Brasil)
  • Republic of Chile (República de Chile)
  • Republic of Colombia (República de Colombia)
  • Republic of Ecuador (República del Ecuador)
  • Republic of Paraguay (República del Paraguay)


  • Federal Republic of Australie (Bondsrepubliek Australië)
  • Empire of the United Cygnian States

T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 03:46, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Renaming pages

Before we start making new pages for JoW, we should rename all the pre-existing pages on Cygnia. So when you can spend some time, can you just go through the Cygnia category and rename all the pages that haven't been renamed to XXX (Joan of What?) yet? Thanks. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 09:11, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Just a word of warning, it seems that you can't rename more than 3 pages in quick succession, because Wikia has a pretty dicky mechanism called the "Action Throttled" thing which supposedly prevents mass-move vandalism, but seems to be pretty useless and time-consuming in every other regard, so yeah. Slow and steady, I suppose.

Integralist Brazil

Hey Orwell. Sorry to say, but I don't really like your idea for Integralist Brazil, especially as a nation that exists in the modern times. I was planning for a continuing Brazilian monarchy, as in OTL the Empire of Brazil was still very popular when it was overthrown, making it one of the paradoxes of history. Also, Brazil having control over all of South America is highly unlikely. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 12:39, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Hey man, don't take it personally. I'm sorry if I offended you, but I just don't think that fascism is an ideology that can survive so successfully in the present day, especially if only one nation is involved. Also, I noticed that when you created the page you originally added a map of Brazil controlling all of South America, and I was just pointing that out. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 23:09, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Cygnian colonial empire

Allow me to justify my position. In accordance with the Treaty of London which formalised Cygnian independence, reparation agreements required France to cede to Cygnia a large portion of the former Royal Navy, as well as much of the former Britain's military assets. All military personnel of British origin also moved to serve Cygnia, as many refused to fight for the French government and/or under French commanders. As a result, Cygnia rapidly amassed defence and assault capabilities that quite comfortably rivalled the great European powers. To make things even better for Cygnia, India is without doubt much closer to Cygnia than any other major colonial power, as other said colonial powers would have had to contend with going around Africa to get to India. This would make a Cygnian conquest of India much easier, as European powers would not have been able to defend their Indian holdings with nearly as much efficiency. Hence my argument that a Cygnian Raj makes sense. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 15:32, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Notice for RotA

You have signed up as a nation in the map game Rise of the Arabs (Map Game) this game will be opening at 9pm GMT Greenwich time. Please post your first turn within 24 hours. Person67 (talk) 13:36, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hey we are having a war and some talks over where to settle the Jews and I am aware you always need white people, what do you think to settling some Jews in Angola and maybe Namibia as well as giving it to them as their own state. It wouldn't technically be a Jewish state but you just do apartheid meaning only whites can vote and since the only whites are Jews. That way you can hang onto control of some of these lands easier. Come talk to me on chat about it. Person67 (talk) 09:56, January 2, 2017 (UTC)


Hey i am the new Polish-Lithuanian player and i have an interesting proposal to make you, talk to me on chat.             Reichsadler der Deutsches Reich (1933–1945).svg Ungern Von Sternberg A Man's GREATEST Joy is Crushing his Enemies Lacedaemon.png 18:37, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

Get on chat pls.             Reichsadler der Deutsches Reich (1933–1945).svg Ungern Von Sternberg A Man's GREATEST Joy is Crushing his Enemies Lacedaemon.png 02:19, January 15, 2017 (UTC)


A Second World War from 1910 to 1913 without any real reason doesn't really sit well with me, I'm afraid. While I'm here, for the names of nation articles, the full names of modern nations are not necessary. Just the common names will be fine, for example "Germany" instead of "German Empire". — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 06:06, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Oh yeah, also, could you please make an effort to learn how to use the templates I use for nation and people pages (e.g. Template:NationBox, Template:Infobox royalty, Template:Infobox officeholder, etc.) so that we have a standard format for all our articles? If necessary, simply copy and paste the template code from pre-existing pages and modify it to suit the new article. And if all else fails, just give me a holler and I'll teach you. Thanks! — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 06:09, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Rise of the Arabs

We pulled out of Guinea Bissau, Angola and Mozambique so the rebels would natural take over. The war was lost by 1974 any how, so I cut my losses and left. Feel free to stage a UNIT\FLNA take over, Portugal has left Angola!

We are not pulling out of Cape Verde, Cabinda and São Tomé and Príncipe.

Boldmouse2 (talk) 03:11, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration on new TL?

I saw your profile and I thought you might be interested in collabing with me. I'm creating a timeline called Before 1984 that explains the events leading up to the world of 1984, beginning in 1918. It's of course in its early stages but I think it could end up being pretty cool. Do you want to work together on this? Signed,

Monkeygoo42 (talk) 04:10, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

maybe im working on my plausible Reverse Cold War timeline-Orwell

Ok, well let me know if you do.

A Brave new World


Orwell i got a better map for my Finno-ungaric country but don't know how to ad it in the game with the sizes so i will give it here to you

Nr 1.png

Vinnyus Stop Calling me Map ! Communist Flanders COA.png 21:08, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Issue with some articles and categorising

Hi there Orwell, just have a couple of little requests for you. You have a couple of pages that are quite stubborn and seem to be refusing to categorise (this one and this one). They both seem to be simply a gallery with maps, so the issue might be something to do with dodgy Wikia coding, but if possible could you try to fix the issue by maybe adding some text before or after the galleries, or if that doesn't work see if you can resolve the issue some other way? I didn't want to fiddle with your pages so I thought I'd ask you to, because it would be nice to have them off the 'uncategorised' list. Thanks:) FPNow 10% edgier!!! 22:35, March 6, 2017 (UTC)


I dont understand what you wrote in my Kaiserreich Alternative History the Kaiserreich is the name for both the German and Austro Hungarian Empire so could you explain what you meant and also could you please not write stuff not related tot it in my page

RE: Russian Duma

That won't be necessary. The State Duma already met in the Winter Palace when the Empire fell OTL. No need to dump a perfectly good palace for the Capitol. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 16:45, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Well in that case, you'll just have to find another photo or portrait of him. I do it all the time; it's not that difficult. And even if it were blown up in the war (highly unlikely since the Fascist armies never reached Petersburg proper; the German armies OTL never actually touched Moscow City), I reckon the Winter Palace would probably be rebuilt as is. — T I M (TSWAHMGWContribs) 02:23, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Meet me

Meat me. ;;;^))) (on grindrchat) † ⌒⌒⌒\(;ᄋ;\)三(ノ>ᄉ<)ノ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")

hey you were trying to contact me last night on chat but idk for what but anyway feel free to talk me on my talk page. ;)

Adolf Coffee (talk) 11:37, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

RE: That super random message

...Okay then. — THE TIM TAM IS MY SPIRIT ANIMAL (TSWAHMGWContribs) 07:35, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Orwell get on chat

i am on chat this time (4:54)

lets play at 2 (PST)

JoW revival

Hey Orwell, I've been doing some retconning for JoW. Are you still interested in working on the timeline? It's alright if you're not. In that case I'll go solo. — THE TIM TAM IS MY SPIRIT ANIMAL (TSWAHMGWContribs) 02:17, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

If I do not receive any response within the next 24 hours, I will assume that you are no longer interested and will take full control of the timeline. Thanks. — THE TIM TAM IS MY SPIRIT ANIMAL (TSWAHMGWContribs) 04:08, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

the M1917 is just Enfield, Eo

I did not know that.


Bil Mesa AZ EoGuy99 (talk) 19:44, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Great Peace Map

Yeah the map you have made is slightly incorrect as Qatar and Trudcial States are now unified and a dominion so can colour them light pink thanks

Nit Picky but needed (Great Peace map)

You forgot to colour Qatar pink, if you could fix that then I will not bother you again, well until independence


Why did you unsign me up for my nation, that is not right. I have been playing for some time and you can't just remove my name. -Luigi899

Oh I wasn’t online for a while due to family. I forgot to go on discord, I will join The Commonwealth. -The Canada Player