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- 1 Nostalgia and Happiness
- 2 TEvCP
- 3 Congress of Vienna - Reinstalled
- 4 "called to action" vs "called into action"
- 5 Re: Latin
- 6 Stirlings
- 7 Knightfall
- 8 Re:Deletion of "Siñal d'Aragón"
- 9 Stirlings
- 10 Re:Old Nicholas II
- 11 AVAR
- 12 Alliance against Toby?
- 13 Treaty signature
- 14 Brazils nuclear program
- 15 come onto chat
- 16 Ban
- 17 Award
- 18 South African issue
- 19 Maps
- 20 AvAr
- 21 Re:Morgan Freeman
- 22 PM3 Antarctica
- 23 Spain 2
- 24 Chat Ban
- 25 Allo
- 26 PMIII WWI
- 27 Chat
- 28 You rang?
- 29 Sorry for the outburst
- 30 The Great Lakes
- 31 Goebbels
- 32 Chat Ban Repeal
- 33 Re: Great Lakes
- 34 Congratulations!
- 35 Viva banning people
- 36 AvA
- 37 Invitation to Join The British Ain't Coming
- 38 Cygnian Mother Nation
- 39 Announcement
- 40 Colonies in GoN
- 41 Principia Moderni IV
- 42 PMIV
- 43 Sign Ups
- 44 PM4 Modship
- 45 PM4 Membership
- 46 Map Issues
- 47 Re:Antarctica
- 48 Long Time No See
- 49 Real Fun
- 50 PMIV Start
- 51 Chat
- 52 PMIV and other things
- 53 Algorithm check
- 54 NYC Subway Bullets
- 55 NYC Subway Bullets Part II
- 56 Need a permission
- 57 PM4: Japan's army size
- 58 Bahmanid Intervention with the Gurkanis [PMIV]
- 59 Not high
- 60 Bear in Pm4
- 61 The Andaman War [PMIV]
- 62 Italian France invason of Spain
- 63 Vandal
- 64 The Great Eastern War [PMIV]
- 65 PMIV
- 66 Map Game
- 67 Hallo
- 68 Re:Josh
- 69 PMIV and IP adresses
- 70 Mod Council PMIV
- 71 About colonization (PMIV)
- 72 Two Bahmani Things [PMIV]
- 73 Note
- 74 PM4 middle east war
- 75 Note
- 76 PM4: Arabian Desert
- 77 PM4: Ottoman stuff
- 78 A TbombTheAltHistorian Apology (not for forgivness, just to know I apologized)
- 79 United Republic
- 80 Participation In Principa Moderni IV
- 81 Applying for Principa Moderni IV
- 82 Orwells Expasnion
- 83 PMIV colonisation
- 84 Banning UR?
- 85 Help please.
- 86 Re:FTBW
- 87 Banten
- 88 Re:Soviets
- 89 Request for User Rights
- 90 HSE Adoption
- 91 Congrats!
- 92 Banned for how long?
- 93 Infinity
- 94 UFC (...again)
- 95 Re:Misnamed Pages
- 96 About Doomsday
- 97 PMIV Malayan Colonisation Permission
- 98 Hello Scraw
- 99 Rejoining Principia
- 100 Invading Punjab
- 101 mod event needed
- 102 Misunderstanding
- 103 Discord
- 104 EoGuy Memorial Copy Writer Award
- 105 Request to Join Map Game
- 106 Discord
- 107 NEED mod
- 108 hey
- 109 Principia Moderni IV
- 110 Discord
- 111 Napoleon Response needed
- 112 Hawaii in PM4
- 113 Help Making a New Wiki
- 114 Third Party Request
- 115 PMIV Mod Responses
- 116 Returning
- 117 Fake Egypt/boooooyyyyyy
- 118 Re:Eo
- 119 Sockpuppeting
- 120 Argentine Civil War Reverse PMIV
- 121 Apology and plan
- 122 New nation
- 123 Possibilities of a United Laurentina in PMIV
- 124 Telegraph in PMIV
- 125 Stirlings Voting
- 126 PMIV
- 127 Removal of strike in PMIV
- 128 Hello?
- 129 Arabia and Persia in PMIV
- 130 Please accept my request
- 131 Nation change
- 132 Discord
- 133 2018 Stirlings
- 134 Why I can't create new pages for my already existed Alternate Histories?
- 135 Vandalism
- 136 Re:Restriction of Editing
- 137 Dead Page
- 138 Why can’t I remove Egypt from the war?
- 139 Really Really Like 1000 years late
- 140 PMIV
- 141 Ban
- 142 PMIV Genocide reaction
- 143 Question
- 144 Two weeks has passed.
- 145 Hi
- 146 My Reply To Certain Concerns
- 147 Front page
- 148 can you help me on nine earths project
- 149 Another Reply
Nostalgia and Happiness
Hey, Scraw. Been some time since we've both been active.
Listen, AP, MP, and myself are resurrecting TEvCP, and we're shooting for a real oldie, a throwback to the old, fun games, like SOCr and SOA5. You know, doesn't take itself too seriously, but maintains plausibility, etc. Should be fun lol.
02:41, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
Awesome. Check in here for more info. MP just archived everything, so we should be good.
22:18, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
Dibs on Germany.
01:50, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
The Venezuelans have decided to default on their debt to us.
Wanna go fuck em up with me?
21:11, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
Actually, all jokes aside, I think this is the best solution all round. You, me, the two most powerful nations on Earth... sounds good, huh?
So, come on, join in. It's not like anything bad will happen!
21:48, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
Scraw, I was wondering if it would at all be possible in TEvCP, now that you have control over the Transvaal and Orange Free State, if I could play as a sort of ATL Union of South Africa consisting of the Orange River, Transvaal, Natal, and Cape Colony, much like the other Dominions of the British Empire? I was also wondering if you would be fine with me having Basutoland. I intend to remain as a Dominion, rather than follow the OTL course of SA and sever ties with the UK. To do this, however, I will need a large influx of Brits in order to eventually have a white majority as much as possible going into a multiracial government (to prevent black nationalism from catching wind and destroying foreign investment).
Congress of Vienna - Reinstalled
Also, please take a look at the algorithm and give your opinions.
I'll be pleased to welcome you. Please join, I believe that your map game experiences would be a valuable addition to my map game. Can you please also invite other people to join?
Please reply soon, as the game starts this Monday.
Regards, Laptop Zombie 09:55, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
PS I revised the rules, it will start in 1816.
"called to action" vs "called into action"
Looks like both are correct.
Sure thing, I'm glad I can be of help. If I understand correctly you want the months to be entirely based on numbers, which is fine, but I just wanted to note that you might find interesting stories in some other names too. For example, the month Ianuarius (January) comes from the god Janus, who is the god of beginnings, openings, doorways, etc, symbolizing how January is the beginning or entrance into the new year. Although with that said I don't know the circumstances of your timeline, and can't really advise you in that regard.
Anyway, month trivia aside, here are all the months represented purely as numbers. Note this removes all months not named after a number, and uses either cardinal (One, two, etc) or ordinal (first, second, etc) Latin words to form them:
I saw your edit on your sandbox, and as an added note, I recommend using the following months for your older calender: Ianuarius, Februarius, Martius, Aprilis, Maius, Iunius, Quintilis, Sextilis, September, October, November, and December, probably in that order, although orders can vary (if you want it to be more religious in nature perhaps start at Martius and cycle through in the same way). If Julius Caesar and Augustus exist in your timeline, Quintilis is the one renamed to Iulius, while Sextilis can be renamed to Augustus. Regardless of which ones you use, here are a few things to remember; no "J"s, they should be "I"s, and Jupiter is spelled Iovis, not Jovus. In regards to the ones named after the gods, I wouldn't recommend similarly having their name as the name of the month. Janus is changed to Januarius for example, so perhaps Iovis becomes Iovuarius?
A note about dating things. The Romans didn't say "3 March" or what have you, but rather referenced the day's relation to a fixed point. These points are the Kalendae (first day of the month), Nonae (eight days before the ides, so either fifth or seventh day of the month), and the Idus (ides; thirteenth day in months of 29 days, fifteen day on months with 31 days). The day before each of these days is the Pridie. For the day you take a ordinal number and count backwards from the reference day, counting the reference day itself as day one. Dates are written with the abbreviation "a.d. NN" which stands for "on the numerous (Nth) day before the nomen (named reference point)". Today for example is a.d. V Kal. Dec., "the fifth day before the Kalends of December". The only days where this isn't necessary is the Pridie (and as such you'll never see "the second day before" since you can just use that), or on a reference day itself.
You can also refer to dates by their respective festival, although this is mostly done after the Ides of February. Make sure that the reference points line up, and if you add days do so at the end of the month, so that festivals aren't messed up. Although this can have the effect of changing people's birthdays, like in Augustus' case, which is why he sometimes celebrated on both days.
Next here is a brief note on years. You are using AUC, which is good, but if you want to be more accurate to the Romans you'd go by consular year. AUC wasn't used until the late Republic, and can vary by source, which is why it can be a bit frustrating at times. Since consuls were elected yearly, you could refer to the year by what consuls were in office. Using Marius' first year as consul for example, 107 BC would be "The year of the consulship of Lucius Cassius Longinus and Gaius Marius".
Yes, as long as there were consuls they would/could use consular years. Consuls were regularly elected throughout the duration of the empire, until its collapse, and into the ninth century within the Byzantine Empire (Leo the Wise is noted as abolishing consular dating). During the empire however systems like AUC became used as well, followed of course by Anno Domini in the sixth century. As an example of how far the consular years continued to be referenced, at the time of AD's adoption it was noted that the present year was "the consulship of Probus Junior" by its creator Dionysius Exiguus, which was to be 525 AD. Mscoree (talk) 23:19, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
On an unrelated note, you can do "Undecimilis" and "Duodecimilis" instead of "Undecimber" and "Duodecimber" respectively, if you want. Or just add in some sort of non number-related month. Mscoree (talk) 23:23, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
Hello Scraw, I was alerting you that you are invited to a new closed-group timeline by the name of Knightfall that was thought of by Guns and I. Basically in the TL, Ogedei Khan doesn't die right before the Mongols invade Western Europe and they go on to conquer much of the continent, as the Holy Roman Empire was weak at the time due to the College of Cardinals being busy electing a new Pope in Rome, with the current Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick II, camped outside the walls of Rome. If you are interested, feel free to sign up and we'll get the ball rolling soon hopefully.
Sorry about that, I copypasted the messages and forgot to remove Fed's and add your name.
Sure. I was just making basic nation pages (e.g. England, France, etc.) for others to use. Feel free to adopt it.
Re:Deletion of "Siñal d'Aragón"
I really looking forward to this awsome wikia.
You said yourself that if Lordganon (or someone else) tried to vote after the deadline then you'd put a stop to them. I guess now we will see if that was true, as Lordganon and others have done just that. Harvenard2 (talk) 19:22, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
Re:Old Nicholas II
Hey! Good question. His name is Prince Michael of Kent, grandson of King George V. George and Nicholas had such a striking resemblance that I figured any of George's descendants would also have an uncanny likeness to Nicholas (I seemed to be right!), and so I looked around until I found him. ChrisL123 (talk) 03:19, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
I'm not totally sure, I think we may be stuck up on the same issue that we had before concerning the changes made to continents already existing. I have to admit, some of the changes to some of the established continents I don't really like, and I feel like they are simply changed for the sake of being changed, whereas I think they would make the TL much more interesting if they remained unchanged and interacted with something that was new. Those are just my thoughts, though, and we can see how this all turns out.
Hello there! ^^
The page is busy, so if you did not notice, I put it here-
Venezuela Diplomacy to the USA: We will sell our oil to the USA for 90% going market prices over the next 10 years if we are sold 2 M2_light_tanks and 2 Ford_3-Ton_M1918 tanks, 1 Curtiss T-32 Condor II light bomber, 2 2Felixstowe_F5L civil aricraft, 30 1917 Fordson Model F tractors , along with the licence to make 5 more if needed. The River Nile-2 (talk) 21:01, February 17, 2015 (UTC)
I don't really know have to apply for a nation, so I'll just leave a message here. Anyway I'd like to join the AVAR map game as Mandatory Palestine, if I'm going about this the wrong way then just say. Dreamcaster1 (talk) 13:54, February 22, 2015 (UTC)
Alliance against Toby?
Brazils nuclear program
Just FYI my nuclear program is a piggy back off of OTL research done in 1938 in Sao Paulo into its applications for power. So its not implausible, in fact the main focus is power and not a bomb currently, however that can be done. I will not be the first nation to get a bomb so if thats what your worried about then dont worry. Other than that i can plausibly have a bomb by 1949-51 given my cooperation with various other nations, Right now my scientific expertise would leave me to independent get it between 1953-55. Considering my uranium deposits thats doable. So yeah i can plausibly build nukes itll just take me longer.
come onto chat
Due to your all-around niceness to people in chat, I give you the Silver Seal of Acknowledgement of Upvotia.
South African issue
So Viva went about and declared war on French colonies in Africa, id say this is a point of no return, we either handle him now or lose alot more handling him later.
Hello there,can I please ask for some help on how to create custom maps and graphs for nations? Thanks :D
Canada D: An alliance and trade deal is offered to the USA. We offer a trade deal, a non aggression pact and a Avro Canada CF-100 Canuck jet interceptors/fighters to Thailand. A non aggression pact and trade deal are offer to Denmark (they run Greenland).The River Nile-2 (talk) 02:59, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
The French colony of French Sudan became independent in 1960 as several states (Mali, Benin, etc), Nigeria became independent in 1960 and Madagascar became independent in the early 1960s. A mod event is needed to fix this since France and England still posses them in 1966.The River Nile-2 (talk) 03:55, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
I think we missed turnig the year some time last night.
Sorry, new mod decisions
- Germany requested, but was ignored in 1964.5, 1965, 1965.5 and 1966. They have made a new requeste in 1966.5.
- Lichtenstine made the same request in 1965.5 and 1966.
- Canada just made one in 1966.5.
Hey Scraw, this is just a reminder to let you know we're a day behind regarding Spain, so uhh, we should probably get on that.
In order to avoid some sort of conflict (over a largely useless area no less), I propose that Spain, Brazil, Germany, and who ever else wishes, should create a formal treaty recognizing legitimate and organized claims. I am prepared to recognize you as owner of a fairly large chunk, I only ask that my chunk (OTL Weddell Sea, Coat’s Land, Droning Maud Land, various islands) be respected. Guy seems to have a claim to, roughly the Ross Dependency if I'm not mistaken.
Additionally (and probably more importantly) this treaty could be a good way to formally create an alliance between our nations (the hands across the ocean thing), since I've been claiming we've had a loose one since the war with the Dutch.
Anyway let me know what you think. Alternatively we can just continue to passive aggressively fight over meaningless lines in Antarctica, that is fun too. Thanks, Fritzmet (talk) 16:50, June 14, 2015 (UTC)
I won't correct any of your posts.
I was planning on giving an apology to my behavior to Lx when I was banned. Yank 22:46, June 21, 2015 (UTC)
ummm....my ban expired one hour ago, and I still cant access chat, do you know what;s going on?-Lx (leave me a message) 01:42, June 22, 2015 (UTC)
- scoffs* You....bloody...bastard. We need to speak in the chat, and yes, yes I know, I am banned, but this is an emergency (for me, that is), and hence we need to talk. Oh well. Prepare for the Entente's Wrath! *laughs evilly* Graham Industries. Creating the future, today. (talk) 01:56, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
Excuse me sir, I only wanted to ask you for help. The only thing I said that was inappropriate was about Heinrich Himmler, but this was jokingly at the guy who called me a faggot over four dozen times in PM. Can I please be unbanned from chat? Thanks ~_~_~_~_KLinkinLogsAssassnGirljjj4444 (talk)
Well if I am not allowed in chat, can you please help me via talk pages? I was trying to ask for your advice on how to make good timelines. Everyone kept calling me a faggot, and then the guy said he was the descendant of Himmler, so I said something about sliding a dick in Himmler, but does that really cross the line, compared to everyone acting dumb for hours? Anyway can you please message me something, thanks -----^
Sorry for the outburst
I am just having such a bloody hard time right. My little brother's are both being like assholes right now. One is really aggressive, and just yells and swears at everyone. There was amassive fight between him and my sister, and she was hitting me, and everyone is crying and yelling an I can't get a thing done.
Let me back on, please. I need to talk to you guys. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry for the outburst, it's just that things have been so hard without my AH.com account. I just want it back. Spartian300 (talk) 20:33, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
The Great Lakes
It's also written with the O E as a ligature.
I have two friends named Schroeder.
One pronounces it SHRADER and the other SHRODER.
Actually it should be pronounced more like SHRERDER.
Chat Ban Repeal
Could i get unbanned from chat? i dont know why i am banned
Re: Great Lakes
Hey Scraw, the project I mentioned a couple of months back, The Great Lakes, has kinda failed to get off the ground due to my general inactivity and lack of organisation. So in attempt to revive it and tie in with wiki reforms, I've decided to convert it to a community timeline (it works better than the previous idea anyway). So I know you might be busy with reforms and all but if you're wanting to contribute just post on the talk or message me or whatever, you know the drill. If you don't want to, that's equally okay.
You have been made a member of the Brass! I have named you the "Strategos of the Edele Adelaars." Have fun figuring it out!!
Viva banning people
He banned me. I repeatedly asked him to stop whatever grudge he has against me. But he wouldn't so he just banned me.22:30, March 5, 2016 (UTC)
I would like you to be a mod in the next ava game. Octavian I, by the Grace of God and the Will of the Nation, Prince of Jerusalem, and Sicily, Duke of Swabia.
I was wondering why you voted aginst ava to be a map game. What did I do wrong. I would still like you as a mod. Octavian I, by the Grace of God and the Will of the Nation, Prince of Jerusalem, and Sicily, Duke of Swabia.
Invitation to Join The British Ain't Coming
Hello, Scraw! Looking at your expertise in Pacific WWII (as seen on Alternative History:Experts), I invite you to join my community timeline, The British Ain't Coming. You could have some useful info about how the Pacific theater would work out with the divided powers of North America contributing to it, perhaps later on in the ATL development. I also saw a few more useful fields you were listed under, so invite you to join the TL, but the decision is completely yours.
Thank you for taking the time to read.
Cygnian Mother Nation
Hi Scraw. I'd like to make an inquiry about what your plans are for Game of Nations. If you don't have anything in particular in mind at the moment, would it be too much to ask if you could create the nation which created Cygnia? I would really appreciate that. Thank you! — The Tim Man (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs) 01:08, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
- Sure thing. Any idea what you plan to call it, and/or where it is located? — The Tim Man (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs) 02:30, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
Hello Game of Nations player!
Now that turn one is done (Turn to starts Saturday) I have recognized the need for a more comprehensive way to plan events that involve more than one nation. So, if you would like to propose a past event, such as a war, Nation formation, or other event, please use the link I have provided below. Note that this only applies to events that involve more than one nation, so you are still free to make events that only pertain to your nation.
Thanks for playing Game of Nations, and I hope it continues to be a fun experience!
Colonies in GoN
Hey Scraw. In GoN, you appear to be one of the major European powers on the continent and off. I play as the Teutonic Confederation, another European power, who was colonizing. In order to avoid confusion on where any colonies were, I decided to contact you here. I saw on your nation page that you had colonized a lot, so I will link to my colony section and maybe we can work out what was claimed and what was not? Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 21:15, June 14, 2016 (UTC)
Principia Moderni IV
Forgive me if I signed up as Bohemia incorrectly. Anyway, for signups, Bohemia has numerous vassals. Do I include my name when signing up as I am their lord? Also, what about dynastic and personal unions? Bohemia has a DU with Moravia, who has PUs with Brandenburg and Luxembourg. Do I sign my name next to them as well? Just let me know and I will change my sign ups if necessary. Also, what are we goint do regarding the colors of different countries on the map? Will we be able to choose, or have they already been predetermined? Also, are the bans from the previous PM games in place? Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 04:49, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
Hi, this is patriot40/worldfire32 I have to be two accounts due to issues with my computer. I was wonderung why my post as switzerland was taken down?
Emm why are you two accounts. You do realize you can signup on two computers on the same account? Seems fishy, no? We don't have verification your patriot40 it's not as simple as that. Tl;dr:what are you doing on two accounts? ~Tao64 Also please check your talk page.
I saw on the PM4 page that I should contact you to inquire about modship for the game. Just wanted to throw my hat in and give it a try. I believe I'm fairly plausible and would make a good moderator. Anyway, let me know what you think.
Hello Mister Scraw, i have known about this wiki for a while but i recently joined, like yesterday. So would i be in Round four or five, Thank you!
I would prefer it if the map was similar to the PM3 one, where each state is outlined on the map instead of them all being grouped into large countries with giant texts over them. Also, for me, the map is not in the correct format to use with normal paint, thankfully I have gotten paint.net, but the image quality is extremely low on it. But I prefer the PM3 map because you can know what each country is and where it is, this works well in Europe. Thanks. Blocky858 (talk) 09:23, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
¡Hola! Do forgive me for the delayed response. A lot is hitting the fan right now.
Do forgive me for sounding like Bill Clinton, but... it depends on what your definition of [habitable] is. Technically speaking, there isn't a place on the continent which can sustain permanent human settlements (otherwise we would've been there by now XP). That being said, if you change the definition to "livable" (and "outlandish"), than there is some possibilities.
Here is a map which should help you out] for this explanation. The brown areas on the continent are ice-free, making them the only "land" on the continent. These areas would be the best areas for colonization. I would also keep any settlements north of, or close to, the Antarctic Circle, but this is a variable.
If I had to give you specific areas for colonization (which, being an Antarctic map nerd, I would be more than happy to help you out). The Antarctic Peninsula, by far, would be the best area for colonization. It is also the only part of the continent where native plants grow... if that helps. Other areas of notoriety would be Victoria Land and the Vestfold Hills (which possesses the Davis Station). But these are just the largest and most noted areas.
- Forgot to mention this, but you might also want to check out Villa Las Estrellas. It is a Chilean commune which was built in Antarctica. For all intents and purposes, this is the closest thing to a civilian settlement on the continent. -- NuclearVacuum 01:42, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
Yes. The sea levels would rise... dramatically (sorry to say). Ironically... we would actually gain more land than we loose (because Antarctica would now be ice free XP). -- NuclearVacuum 19:38, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
Long Time No See
Hey Scraw, it's been a hot minute. Just wanted to say that I'm glad that y'all have revived PM. I took my customary place in Mesoamerica, and I can help with moderator things if necessary. Maps preferably, but anything I can do to help, I will. Cour *talk* 04:02, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
I was banned without a kick or a warning? Real fair.
I... I am sorry for what happened on chat, I am known for being annoying and I should have just stopped. It wasnt your problem but i was taking you for granted and being annoying. I am very sorry and I feel terrible, I am known to annoy people IRL. I know these aren't excuses but I am sorry... Lieutenant113 (talk) 05:28, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
PMIV and other things
Alo, Lx here, anyway, I was just wondering if the mod section is not filled up for PMIV, perhaps maybe put me there, eh?
Anyway, the other thing I wanted to tell you is I would like your opinion about something I posted on the Titans page. Message me back or go on chat whenever you can, I would like to talk with both you and MP about it.-Lx (leave me a message) 13:00, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
HEY. WHY DID YOU DELETE MY PAGE!!!!!!! (hudson bay company).
Hi Scraw, if you have the time could you please check my algorithm for my invasion of Tlemcen here and fill in the moderator-only parameters? That'd be great. Thanks! — T I M (TSW • AH • MGW • Contribs) 01:04, July 26, 2016 (UTC)
NYC Subway Bullets
NYC Subway Bullets Part II
Need a permission
Hi, I'm from Future Wikia. We need a better templates for nation, so can I copy Template:NationInfo from here to Future Wikia?, please. Reply in my talk page. Thanks. Hexarafi (talk) 09:52, July 31, 2016 (UTC)
PM4: Japan's army size
I remember you were the one to determine the Ottoman military size based on the fact he had a navy concentration.
Well, Feud is invading Korea with 200,000 troops, but he is also a navy concentration.
So, perhaps you can help determine what is a more reasonable number for his military given his concentration.
Bahmanid Intervention with the Gurkanis [PMIV]
Hi. Nate told me that you vetoed the Bahmanid (and Mogadishan, but that's Fallacyman's problem, not mine) intervention in the invasion/civil war that the Gurkanis are currently going though. First, the Bahmanids now have a land border w/the Gurkanis (in Sindh). Second, there's been an alliance between the Bahmanids and the Gurkanis for >10 years. Third, after the humiliation of the Hindustan War, Ali Nadeem Shah is a man desperately looking for some military glory to match his father, and what better than saving the sons of the great Timur?The Guardian of Forever (talk) 19:20, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
I'm perfectly soldier, in case you're worndering.
Bear in Pm4
The Andaman War [PMIV]
Could you look at said algo, and especially the discussion under it? Ace and I have been having quite a dispute about it and I want a mod to clean up the mess. Thanks, The Guardian of Forever (talk) 00:38, September 7, 2016 (UTC)
Nate and I have requested your presence on this troublesome algo again. (not on the numbers, but on the war itself.) http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Principia_Moderni_IV_(Map_Game)#Discussion_13 The Guardian of Forever (talk) 20:42, September 8, 2016 (UTC)
Italian France invason of Spain
Scraw, Italy and France have declared war on Spain to, as rex's turn, to reclaim territory lost from Spain 200 years ago.
There is a massive problem with this war however, Neither Nic nor Rex committed troop numbers before the start of the war. When I was trying to work on the algo, I asked nic what he was sending. He claimed it was To be Determined, after the turn had rolled over. even still, I found out that they had already started the algo before committing troop numbers. The problem with this is that without a commited troop number, I can not form a defense to this war. But because the turn has rolled over, I can't do shit in this war. Now, I didn't post my declartation of war on Oct before I posted my turn, but I gave him plently of time before the turn rolled over, Oct was warned before I invaded him, and I committed to Nate and Josh exactly how many troops I would be sending to this war. I can't do anything to change the outcome of this war because they didn't commit their invasion force until after the turn rolled over.
Now this war itself is bullshit. France committed an army of 20,000 to Castile 6 years before he invades me. That is 13% of their maximum force. Since then, nothing has changed between France and Spain, but suddenly France is threatend and hurt by castile's union to Aragon (Which was officalized 30 years before he invaded but ok). now if its to liberate portugal, than that still makes 0 sense, because France supported Castile when it marched on Portugal 6 years ago. But they would have done this march when I had 100% of my army commited to fighting Portugal. Now I'm not saying Rex can't reclaim his territory, but France's involvment hinges on him breaking an alliance that was solidifed via 2 royal marriges, one of which granted him and I queen's. His king is half spanish, my king is half French, and the Nephew of his king. His claim is that I have united with an historic enemy, when really I united with said enemy 30 years ago and this is the first I am hearing about his issue with it.
Rex's CB is legit, but France literally told me they have none. breaking an alliance and than creating a brand new alliance the very same turn doesn't make sense for France to do.
Please consdier these things.
= Scraw, I ask for a PM on chat before you make these decisions07:23, September 18, 2016 (UTC)
Yo Scraw, we have a vandal who goes by the name LordMarlborough1 (the one there is important, as he is ripping off the name of a new user called LordMarlborough). He has vandalized two talk pages, an article and Edge's talk. I have reversed everything. Pls ban him, he is a sockpuppet of Tft191 as well, who had a vendetta against the mentioned user LordMarlborough. Thanks m8 AM, the King of the Banat (talk) 17:57, September 20, 2016 (UTC)
The Great Eastern War [PMIV]
Scraw, could we have a decision from the mods on what exactly happened in the Great Eastern War? Is it still ongoing, as Ace claims? Did it end in an unconditional surrender, as I argue? It's been locked for days now-could the mods make a decision on this? Please see my most recent arguments here and here. Thanks, The Guardian of Forever (talk) 23:48, September 22, 2016 (UTC)
Does the game have a Mod page for organising things like PMIII had? If so, could I please be added? My email is email@example.com if that is required.
Hey SCraw, in theory couldn't we have a Star Wars map game because it was a long time ago.....
Christ man they made you a Brass?
They're just handing that shit out now
19:02, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know about this. I was unaware as to whether he had permission or was simply making edits on his own. I will happily leave Josh to his business.
Though I must ask. Why wasn't this brought up in the TSPTF talk page? Am I to assume all of this was decided on chat alone? I look forward to your response. -- NuclearVacuum 00:38, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
PMIV and IP adresses
Scraw, Wikia won't let me edit the PMIV page. It says that I have the same IP adress as that vandal TheCentauriBrespapa, and that you blocked him. Could you do something about this? Thanks, The Guardian of Forever (talk) 17:28, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
It's back. It seems the first time I edit a page, it blocks me, but on the second it allows. (I was trying to post a message on Fallacy's talk page, but it didn't let me. When I tried again a few minutes later, it let me edit). The Guardian of Forever (talk) 18:53, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
Mod Council PMIV
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Principia_Moderni_IV_(Map_Game)#Colonization_Confrimation hey Scraw can you approve or disapprove my colonisation of America/ Avalon. you basically know my reasons about lack of space and wealth plus finding King Arthur but if you have any questions I am on chat.
Plus these are the turns you said you would post for me on friday and saturday 1501: The road from Bristol to London contuines to be worked on, the King's family contuines to grow healthily while news from Europe about the colonisation of yet to be determined reaches London and the King's ears 1502: The road from Bristol to London is completed while the King does agree there is a western continent but is unsure of it's value of explroring and ponders whether he should bother exploring. Person67 (talk) 09:17, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
can i edit nixons victory timeline because YOU LEFT IT BLANK YOU CANT LEAVE IT JUST SITTING THERE AND I'M GONNA ASK OTHER USERS, I WILL EDIT IT OK
About colonization (PMIV)
Hi. Do colonization signups apply only to the Americas? I have no intention of making any colonies in the New World, but I want to make sure I'm allowed to colonize other places, such as Madagascar. General534 (talk) 13:44, November 3, 2016 (UTC)
I'm still a bit confused about this. It seemed from what you were telling me that I'd have to sign up to make colonies in Africa and Madagascar (I play as Oman), but I was told by Edge that it only applies to the Americas (image: ). Is there another page to sign up for non-Americas colonization, or am I mistaken? The rules on this seem to be about all colonization, not just the Americas. General534 (talk) 13:02, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
Two Bahmani Things [PMIV]
Scraw, I have two requests relating to the Bahmanis: 1. Could you approve the Bahmanis swtitching to a naval concentration? It's been more than 40 years since I chose army, and as the Bahmanis now control a huge amount of coast, have a naval tradition, major trade, two overseas vassals, and a major sea-based enemy (and no land-based ones), I think its only logical. 2. Could I get one of those strategic defense thingies for Kolon-thota, essentially 'covering' the W/SW coast of Sri Lanka? (Sorry if another mod's supposed to be doing these sort of things). Thanks, The Guardian of Forever (talk) 01:36, November 6, 2016 (UTC)
This: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Talk%3APrincipia_Moderni_IV_(Map_Game)#Strategic_Defenses The Guardian of Forever (talk) 02:09, November 6, 2016 (UTC)
I need to see you in chat as soon as I can, as the current scenario I have told to you has been tweaked.
By the way, could you approve my change to army concentration?
– † ⌒⌒⌒＼(;ᄋ;＼)三(ﾉ>ᄉ<)ﾉ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")
PM4 middle east war
I took the liberty of creating a tentative treaty on my sandbox which I would think would be good at setting the new order to the Middle East after this war. It's only a suggestion for the mods, of course, as I'm not involved at all and not a mod right now. Also, it presumes everyone will be involved in the war who have told me they will be invovled: User:Nathan1123/Treaty of Batman
Did you just see what happened (her new turn)? This bias against me or anyone supporting me needs to stop, not only does she never listen to the moderators who support my stances, but she ignores my messages when I directly confront her and tell her that what she is doing has no historical basis whatsoever.
Her turns reek of bias (her turns constantly attacking Korea under the pretext of "Manchu independence", but genocide hasn't been a thing yet and she completely ignored the Manchu massacre of Koreans–which again should be publicized more because Korea is sinicized [the Hua–Yi distinction]). I mean, her efforts are quite obvious, extraneous even. Plus it disregards her new pact with Mongolia (see how she basically re-invaded Mongolia) and the fact she has a new fledgeling unstable dynasty (with a fourth–third of the Ming population dying during the Qing transition period, it's easy to see the new Bao dynasty having around sixty to eighty million from a hundred million), all while not doing algorithms to cement her claims.
She needs to be penalized, I don't mean get bans or strikes, but she needs to get her shit together. I would not hesitate to bring this issue up to the mapgame commitee overseer. – † ⌒⌒⌒＼(;ᄋ;＼)三(ﾉ>ᄉ<)ﾉ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")
See you later. By the way, do you have skype? That'll be a better medium for communication. – † ⌒⌒⌒＼(;ᄋ;＼)三(ﾉ>ᄉ<)ﾉ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")
Scraw, can I just verify that this event in PMIV where James of Scotland offers his daughter to some Norweigan that this James does in fact also have a healthy son. Person67 (talk) 07:30, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
Feudy said he's willing to mod-control China. Also, he's currently rallying mods for the cause. – † ⌒⌒⌒＼(;ᄋ;＼)三(ﾉ>ᄉ<)ﾉ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")
APOLOGY FROM MIRO I am very sorry. The2016 is my old account and I was one of the people who planned this "invasion". I don't really know why I wrote that, because it was around 3 a.m. I understand if you want to ban me, but just so you know, this is a really sorry from the Bottom of My Heart. I went on to that wiki ad realised what I had done. I wouldn't have told you if i wanted to invade you. Again, I'm very sorry. You are very lucky I told you. If you spare me from being banned, could I hang out here??? I've been banned from Future Wiki, even though I told everyone about the "plan". Thank you. Once Again, I'm really sorry and was acting stupid last night. Bye --FirestormBlizzard a.k.a Miro
PM4: Arabian Desert
I perfectly understand your reasoning to veto my ability to claim the Arabian desert. But all of a sudden Gemeral's nation (Oman) is expanding into the Arabian desert? (according to the current official map). That is completely unfair. Besides the fact that I have way more resources and incentive to dominate Arabia than Oman does, and a larger share of the peninsula to start with, Oman's Ibadi Islam would only be accepted by Muscat itself and surrounding area, never the strongly Sunni population within Arabia itself. And on top of all that, I actually have the algorithm which says I dominate Arabia after I sent a large force to crush the bedoins in the Nejd region.
PM4: Ottoman stuff
So in game Bozi was not very smart and decided to invade Trebizond which has notably brought about my own involvement. Ive officially used a pontoon bridge and gotten the jump on Bozi and seized two cities across the straits, and ive begun fully arming the Greek and Armenian populations.. I hope this can be reflected via some mod events
A TbombTheAltHistorian Apology (not for forgivness, just to know I apologized)
I, ironically made a sock to do this, but I needed to say I'm sorry for everything that I did on this wiki to try and ruin it. I know what I did was wrong. On my wiki I've told a good friend who recently had issues here that he should work through it and try and make the best of himself here. I'm sorry to hear of all the vandals and such, trying to literally crumble the wiki. If I was a smarter lad when I was here I would try and stop them, hell, probably would have anyway. Hey, just to tell you, I think they're fibbing. I don't think they're gonna go through with it. I'm sorry to hear of all of it though, and it's not OK. I know, this may have to be double-taked to know it's true but I'm sorry. Go right and ahead and delete this message, but I'll always know I apologized. Imsorrythisishowthishadtobedone (talk) 01:28, December 20, 2016 (UTC) AKA TbombTheAltHistorian
why u ban me -Bozi to Scraw the Mom
If your going to give out strikes, provide some reasoning because I don't know what was objectionable. Burgundy and Portugal have land far further east and OTL by this point Bandar Abbas was Portugesse and Aden had been visited and attacked by Portugesse and Italians. I am using no violence just diplomacy. all I asked to do was have some place to trade and restock on my way to India and I get a strike. Explain your thoughts and processes, please. Gurkani asked for the advisors not my fault if he asked for a stupid deal, I just took his money. AM then says that my focus is on North America yet at the same Portugal and Burgundy are doing things in both India and America with Burgundy conquering Ceylon and Portugal doing similiar stuff. I am just doing what my competitors are doing. Person67 (talk) 09:55, December 25, 2016 (UTC)
Participation In Principa Moderni IV
Hello, Scraw. I would like to play in PV4. But I was not able to find where I could apply. And the game seems a bit complicated. I just wanted to ask Is there a Hindu/Buddhist/Jain state in South Asia ? And can I start a rebellion to create a new state. Thanks
Applying for Principa Moderni IV
I would like to apply for Principa Moderni IV as the Delhi Raj. It is an Elective Monarchy and a non-feudal nation. I estimated the population to be around 40 million and so my max army size would be 4,000,000 i.e. 10% of the population. The Delhi Raj integrated the vassals of Leh and Ladakh. Here is the page. I have created the map and the flag.
I changed the numbers. In the history you will see that Rudra 1 changed to an elective monarchy and abolished the feudal system. Please suggest any changes. Elective Monarchy- Since there were many great men who rebelled against the Muslims and I would like all of them to have the throne and the historical reason here is that since after Rana Sanga's death Rudra 1 (not related to Rana Sanga) became Emperor. I hope I am not implausible and If any changes are required just tell me.
muh expansion in Siberia
Can you please confirm my colonisation confirmation as the knights hospitaller?
there was no algro so this is bullshit
your the worst mod ever
I've been noticing this for the past few weeks now. You will ban UR from chat for a short period of time. Some times you undo this within minutes, while other you leave the suspension as is. IIRC, I'm aware that you guys [in chat] do this to other admins as a "friendly slap" (forgive my wording) from time to time.
The reason I'm bringing this up now is because you appear to be doing this to UR on an [almost] daily basis. Because I don't use chat, I wish to ask whether UR is actually going over the line as an admin, or whether this is just a "friendly game" between the two of you. -- NuclearVacuum 01:44, January 24, 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I'm a Bureaucrat from the Future Wiki, and I've been directed to you via the chat users. I was interested in how the administration of Althist has different names, for example, "Brass", "Lieutenant" and "Constable". I was wondering how I could apply a similar change to the Future Wiki.
I would like a mod response on the decision of Kedah joining Malaya or not in Principia Moderni IV. It has been two turns and I hope that my request can be responded to as earlier as possible.
- http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Tbguy1992#Re:FTBW (my mistake)
- http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Scrawland_Scribblescratch#Banning_UR.3F (never got an answer)
Well, turns out Banten is in Sumatra. This is Banten. .
Warrioroffreedom123 13:10, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123
Long time no see. I would be more than happy to help you out.
During the revolutionary years, I'm unaware of any liberals of notoriety. Most "liberals" would've joined the White Movement or simply fled the country all together. At the same time, most of the social democrats would've been assimilated into Marxism-Leninism (or flee). Because of this, I'm currently unaware of anyone at the moment.
During the early Cold War, I can only think of Nikita Khrushchev and Alexei Kosygin as being "liberal enough" (though still communist). Kosygin, especially, attempted to reform the economy of the USSR (which might've helped them in the long run).
During Glasnost and Perestroika, things begin to get clearer. Along with Gorbachev, Nikolai Ryzhkov comes to mind. Another interesting character was Alexander Yakovlev (the "Godfather of Glasnost"), who was very open to exposing the atrocities of the USSR (starting a public conversation). Askar Akayev of Kyrgyzstan and Eduard Shevardnadze of Georgia could also be regarded as part of the Gorbachev wing of the CPSU, but both would eventually become dictators of their respective countries (so take that as you will).
As for today, you have a long list (happily). Mikhail Kasyanov and Vladimir Ryzhkov (no relations to Nikolai above) are noted (not to mention those from the People's Freedom Party). Boris Nemtsov would be another noted leader, though he was recently assassinated (not sure how this will effect your timeline). Another noted leader is Garry Kasparov (noted for Chess and the Dongcopter Incident). Others include Vladimir Lukin, Grigory Yavlinsky, and pretty much anyone from Yabloko (a liberal political party).
While he is not a liberal (per say), I would also add Ilya Ponomarev, who'd politically be somewhere between Gorbachev/Sanders and Khrushchev/Kosygin. He is currently noted for being the MP to abstain from Russia's Gay Propaganda Law and voted against the annexation of Crimea.
Though he is not part of the opposition, I (ironically) would also add Dmitry Medvedev as a liberal. During his presidency, he did more to progress Russia than what Putin is currently doing. Take this as you will.
Request for User Rights
Just noticed that you moved the page for user rights requests. Am I to assume you did this to remove the capitalizations? Because it has been standard for this Wiki to use full capitalizations on article names (at least according to LG, that is).
- As far as I'm aware (grammatically speaking), titles are always capitalized (though it does appear to vary).
- Not much more I can add. If you still feel that your way is preferable, than I'll leave it at that. Just refrain from doing so with all articles you come across. -- NuclearVacuum 06:39, March 19, 2017 (UTC)
HSE AdoptionAdolf Coffee (talk) 19:31, March 25, 2017 (UTC) this is the map . I forgot to update Burgundy expansion into northern Venezuela.
Congrats!Shield of the Wiki, display this on thy banner. Imp (Say Hi?!) 01:00, March 31, 2017 (UTC)
Banned for how long?
I am not even gonna go into how my ban was unjust and without provocation just tell me for how long?
Well well now you got me into thinking, how is calling someone that in every fuckin map game plays as Jihadists and blows up stuff and people, calling him a Jihadist a personal attack on a player, its only his bloody reputation and ideology...
Infinity is what i wantl, is what i need, so ban me for all infinity.
P.S. : Comes with a shitty song called Infinity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzy2dgEUOhY
From both the chat and the wiki don't be a fool and ban me now, for all infinity.
WTF I honestly thought you were joking, how does writing what i did is any different from what Feudy wrote? Thats pure bullshit. Now i honestly start to think you would like to pull a Kost on me...
Trust me when i say that pulling a Kost never ends well for the sanity of the admins team. Now imagine if they were two.
Yo. So I had a read og the Imperial Empire of New York, and I really think we can actually try to make the UFC work this time. Instead of cities, we have like a farm or two or something instead? Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:16, April 15, 2017 (UTC)
While I can't speak for Imp (at all), but I would be more than happy to give my take on this.
Back when I renamed articles to fit site rules, I was always left with mixed results. This is because the vast majority of these were done by brand new users with no little to no knowledge of the naming rules. It was rare (if nonexistent) that these users would stumble upon this (let alone realize their was even an error).
For the majority of the time, users would ignore the change (knowingly or unknowingly) and continue doing as they did. For may of those who would notice the change, they took it upon themselves to move the page back to their original naming choice. The remaining would either message me about the page move (at which time they are pointed to the site rules) or do as mentioned above and follow the rules on their own behalf.
For a while, I began to message users about their mistakes and informed them about my alterations. However, the results remained the same.
I than began to specifically mark the pages down for deletion and provided a link to the specific rule that was broken. It was only after this that the desired results were reached. The shock of having their articles removed would force new users to read the rules and follow them in the future.
Since it would be days (if not weeks) before any article is removed using this method, it should be a harmless (as far as their articles are concerned). I agree that this method is rather extreme (even for me), but it is currently the best option that I have stumbled upon. I'm open to any suggestions if you have any. If you feel I should stop, I'd also understand. -- NuclearVacuum 01:30, April 30, 2017 (UTC)
Hello there, boss! I'm a member of the Spanish-speaking community of Alternate history and map-gaming, now I'm creating a mapgame about one ALT of this wiki, Doomsday:1983. I don't know how the copyright works here, and I don't want troubles with nobody in his wiki, so, I decided to ask you for permission to use the lore of that alternate history. The mapgame will set on October, 1983, so, most of the iconical nations of Doomsday, like the Celtic Alliance or Socialist Siberia, doesn't exist.
Please, can you grant me permission to do it? I'd be very pleased if you do it.
PMIV Malayan Colonisation Permission
I play as Malaya in PMIV and I was wondering if I could gain coloniser status? I was planning to colonise North Borneo but decided to change it to direct annexation afterwards in case I broke any rules.
Also, how do invasions work? Do you need mods to confirm if you successfully added said land to your borders or list of colonies?
So, since the Caliphate has started to break up and the new Governor is anti-Caliph. Should I send forces or ready them up to support the governor in case? And for this what shall I get in return from the new Iranian state?
Hello. I would like to rejoin principia. I don't plan on joining as anything large, I want to join as Lan Xang. I will be very greatful if you let me rejoin.
user talk: Warrioroffreedom123 09:33, May 10, 2017 (UTC)Warrioroffreedom123
Hey Hey Hey Scraw
I just invaded Punjab. I will maybe take up a European colonizer country or something.....
mod event needed
I said I needed a post on the siege of Esfahan, the final armegeddon, so I can post to the final climax of the war. Gujarat independence is not what I need, besides the fact I said it was just needed to be some riots to give me justification to sell them off. Unless this event isn't making them full indepdenent yet, in which case I still need update for Esfahan so I can finish the war and move on. Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 23:34, May 13, 2017 (UTC)
Scraw I think this is a misunderstanding, I'm not the person you're looking for. I didn't do anything to break the rules, can you please let me on chat? Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 01:30, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
My Wikia username is Sidewinder291102, and my Discord username is Sidewinder (no nickname (yet))
EoGuy Memorial Copy Writer Award
Name me Copy Editor Emeritus and take me out of the running.
That will give someone else a chance.
Request to Join Map Game
Would it be Possible to join the Principia Moderni IV Map Game as the Pueblo Native American Tribes?
Hi. I would like to join the game as the country Maghreb but I don not know if it is being played as. Also what is the current technological adbwjce of Europe at this moment
20:15, August 23, 2017 (UTC)
Hello. I need help with Discord. Do you know what the server name, or at least how do I get to the Alt History wiki talk page thing on there.
If I lose the Egyptian Revolution could I choose another country?
Alright, I've decided that I will become Hungary after the Egyptian Revolution.
Hey, I don't know if I can request events, but could you add Russia's response to my Tripple entent Request?
I would like to get into Discord. My username is Iamback2
Hey tomorrow, Catalonia is holding an independence referendum, so if the new Year begins tomorrow, could you add an Catalonian Revolt Event? That would be cool
Hello, Scraw. It is me, Adolf and I was just wondering if I could talk to you about my turns and things like that as I've had a long history of fuck-ups and I'd like to end that. It would really be helpful if you would like to hear out my ideas and plans so I could learn how to make better turns and be a better map games player in general. Just get in touch with me when you can
Hi Scraw I'm having trouble getting into discord. Any help? FranzJoseph24 (talk) 15:42, October 1, 2017 (UTC) Hi. My name is FranzJoseph240 Creative isn't it FranzJoseph24 (talk) 12:35, October 2, 2017 (UTC)
Principia Moderni IV
Hello i was wondering if i could join the game as Ethiopia, Thank you!
Hi, do you think I could get a new link to the discord? I've been asking around to other admins for a bit now and so far no one has been able to help, but I was told you were one of the people I should ask. My old account I haven't been able to log into for a while now, so I made a new account. I just need a new link. Thanks, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 23:27, October 11, 2017 (UTC)
Napoleon Response needed
I just wanted to ask if you could Add Napoleon's response to my turn as my leader as Requested a Non Aggression Pact intern for peace and My leader's support and recognition of Napoleon's Claim of Emperor.
Hawaii in PM4
Hi Scraw, I had a question about my nation and the war with Tonga in PM4, I'm confused on whether or not it is allowed or not. A mod (I believe it was you) initially crossed out a post of me declaring war because it seemed like I was creating a false flag attack basically, but I then fixed that, posted new turns about the war, and did algorithms which would allow me to conquer the islands. I believe Feud then claimed a couple turns later that the war never happened or never succeeded because Tonga is posting once again. I tried to explain to him my reasoning for why I believe the war should be allowed but he basically just replied with "fuck off" so I don't think he's really giving me a chance here, so I wanted to ask you what you think.
My train of thought here is that Tonga is a small tribal nation right on the edge of Hawaii's borders with a very small population compared to Hawaii; no more than 10% of Hawaii's. Plus they have no modern technology, defenses, cities, etc. For all intents and purposes they're just a tribal nation.
For comparison I recall that around 1700 or so I told Feud about how I was planning to conquer the other Hawaiian islands as the Big Island, but was simply waiting until I was more technologically advanced, and he said I should just go ahead and do it. Now, despite saying that the sole Big Island could conquer the other islands kingdoms, all the islands collectively (plus all of French Polynesia and my allies) couldn't conquer a single kingdom, even after modernizing somewhat and gaining guns, some modern ships, etc. I know Hawaii isn't the most advanced nation in the world or the most populous, but I don't see why there's any reason I can't conquer a single tribal nation still probably stuck in the stone age. I'm the one who even brought this nation in the game so I know their technology level and sophistication.
Tonga isn't that far away, it's only about a couple weeks journey from Hawaii proper by canoe, let alone by a modern ship. And that's just to Hawaii proper, the distance from Tonga to the closest Hawaiian settlement or outpost is probably a couple days. From the Polynesian settlements, that he attacked to begin the war, it's also only a short distance away.
In the 19th century in OTL around this same number of years after contact actually Hawaii even tried to incorporate Tonga, Samoa, Polynesia, etc into its kingdom, so what I am attempting to do actually was considered in real life. Plus I'd say Hawaii is a bit stronger than its real life counterpart anyway.
That's basically my thought process on the whole thing. I've been playing for over a century now and this was my first ever war, after a good amount of planning and actually inventing Tonga as a nation in my posts. It's not even on the nations page, this player never even signed up (and he already has strikes? I don't know how that works so I could be wrong). But my point is I would appreciate some clarification on this and some explanation onto the reasons why I can't conquer this tribe or have the war in general. Sorry I didn't mean to write a whole essay here but I've been thinking about this for a week or so and trying to get an answer.
Perhaps we could talk about this on discord if you're willing to send me a link, or on the regular chat. Is it true I'm not allowed on discord? Either way please let me know what is going on with this thing in PM4 so I know how to post and such accordingly. Thank you, Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 23:03, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry I keep pestering you and the other mods but can I please get a reply to my message? I haven't been posting in a while because I need to know what's going on with my nation before I do anything. Can you please look into the matter? Hquvfrioyle Lilenofryn (talk) 18:16, October 20, 2017 (UTC)
Could I perhaps be an independent Cuba? I know burgundy owns it so could I get Permisian to revolt from you?
Help Making a New Wiki
Hey Tullin redirected me to here. I'm in the early stages of making a new wiki for an upcoming alternate history mod for HOI4, and need some templates for it, particularly the nationbox template and war/conflict templates to name a few. Is their anyway to use the ones on this wiki on my wiki or could you help me make my own templates for it(I have tried myself but am somewhat incompetent at making templates) Could you lend a help? Wiki Link http://worldonedge.wikia.com/wiki/World_on_Edge_Wiki Knowyourhistory (talk) 16:08, October 31, 2017 (UTC)
Third Party Request
I would like to request your assistance in resolving recent events between me and UR. Over the past few days, UR has been reverting and/or restoring deletions I have made. The deletions I have made were for unused redirects. I have asked him to stop over the past few days, yet he seems keen to continue despite this.
Since we are both lieutenants, I'm afraid I can't take any actions to prevent these (let alone wish to do them). I was hoping I could get your input on the matter and perhaps get involved if possible.
PMIV Mod Responses
Hey, can you give me some mod responses? They're pretty serious. And thanks if you do.
Just a few questions
What tier is Egypt in PMIV and how to advance from it? Would Mohammed Ali be a great king?
I am new to algorithims in Map Games and have had mixed reuslts currently doing it. Could you check the Second Battle of Atabra, change anything that is wrong and conclude it for me, I am especially stuck when coming to percentages. Thank you so much
Hi remember me from all those months ago? Hungary? Well I'm back, and I'm wondering if I could choose a new Nation now. Thank you.
Hey, I'm just wondering what's the history behind argentine? I made a post and tried my best not to say anything about it's history or anything cause I didn't know it. Please if I got anything wrong in my post don't strike me.
Did Argentine use to be a French colony?
The Mahdist state is NOT Egypt. This is an earlier atl version of the otl mahdist state. The most you could call it is Sudan. Although the mod event implied egypt had a mahdist uprising. I do not know if you cant read, or are simply trolling.
Please be aware that for as long as I've been here, having multiple accounts has been against the rules (regardless of whether they were used for abuse or not). This has been the policy LG and I have used: one account and only one account.
I agree that Eo was not using these accounts for abuse, nor was I advocating it (aside from using the only category available on the block reasoning). I agree that he lost his password or the like. But precedent is precedent.
You don't have to worry about me reverting your decision, and that I understand your reasoning. However, I will request that you reinstate the block on your own accords. I also must insist that you please take into consideration the already existing policies in place here before acting in the future.
- Apparently, LG told me the exact opposite. Only one account can be used at a time. Any confirmed additions were to be permanently blocked. This is what he and I have been doing for years.
- I can't speak for him, but it might be possible LG left your backup alone because you weren't using it here. Had you be using it, he may have blocked it.
- Regardless, it's done (as far as I'm concerned). I'll be more than happy to leave alt accounts alone for the time being, but I do believe we should have a more detailed policy as to what is and isn't doable.
- I'm on Discord if that'd make things easier to talk about.
NuclearVacuum#1218-- NuclearVacuum 19:37, January 7, 2018 (UTC)
I didn't think having more than account - each of which bears my name - was wrong.
Argentine Civil War Reverse PMIV
I'm tired of trying to change my country's ideology all the time, is there anyway I could just stop this civil war and act like it never happened? I am getting kinda tired of trying to creating new ideologies and such, especially that I know creating communism early isn't going to work in my nation. So, anyway you could just nullify it? - The History Nerd
Apology and plan
My reaction to a pretty legitimate ban was pretty obnoxious, so I apologize for the ad hominem. Anyway, I have a plan in the game when the ban is done. I cannot post regularly, but I plan a sort of alt sokoto caliphate (playing as Zamfara). The plan is to keep conquering until Europe takes me out.
Zamfura is the plan. A Wes African state in north Nigeria. Idea is to create an alt sokoto caliphate, probably “zamfura caliphate.” The idea is to conquer the other states of the region till the Europeans take me out. Also I am tempted to play a minor European faction or turkey/khanate to get westernization up and going again.
Thank u for the response I didnt see it earlier I'll ask Aztlan about the maya thingEljefe316 ([[User
talk:Eljefe316|talk]]) 03:40, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
I am planning to rejoin Principia Moderni IV as Prussia, however in all honesty I do not know much of it in ATL. I am currently researching it through the archives however can you please give me a brief overview of its history, it’s ruling family (its current ruler and his family) and its current strength in Europe along with it on the European map?
Thank you so much for your help.
Possibilities of a United Laurentina in PMIV
Hi scraw! Today I'm here to ask the question: Do you think a "Pan-Laurentina" movement could be varyingly successful? I mean, just in real life, South America/Laurentina is united by it's linguastic and cultural similarities, and similar histories of being under colonial rule and breaking off violently. The only difference in this timeline is that South America speaks French, and has French cultural influences and French food. Anyway, do you think the possibilities of a 'Unified Continent' ideology could reach high levels of support? Cause I'm thinking of possibilly asking other nations(such as Brésil, Chile, Peru and possibly New Granada) in laurnetina on forming a confederation, especially Peru.
Telegraph in PMIV
Hi scraw, I am here to ask if the telegraph has been invented in PMIV yet, as it's passed the OTL date of its invention (1837). I eagerly await your response! ~~The History Nerd
Removal of strike in PMIV
It’s been 30 days since I got that last strike, so I am asking to see if that strike should be removed now, since it does say each strike will reset after 30 Ingame years have past. ~~The History Nerd
Hello Lieutenant sir, and SENATE,
I have a complaint to make about a user high up in the ranking on this wikia. The user NuclearVacuum has been wrongfully deleting people's images that several users and creators have worked so very hard on. I and so many others believe that it is the will of the users to make their own content and freely take pride in their work, and shouldn't ever have their content deleted by a lieutenant for no apparent reason.
Also, if he is guilty, is there any way we can recover our lost images that we have worked hard on?
Please have a word with him, and explain to me and to all of us why our images have been deleted.
Arabia and Persia in PMIV
Recently I’ve been getting kind of bored with Argentine, and I was wondering if I could change my nation to Arabia-Persia. I understand the nation is in bold letters, so it’s reserved for progressional and plausible players, but if you could give me a chance to try the Nation out, I think you could see an interesting scenario unfold. Arabia-Persia is a strong nation, so I think it needs to be active again, and I think I’ve proven myself worthy of plausibility ever since I came back with Argentine. I hope to hear your response, and will accept anything you say. Colgan dog (talk) 18:27, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
Hey since im switching countries i wanna know what happened to Aztlan since the players name isn't there anymore and if hes still playing as aztlan ill switch to Peru if that's available let me know soon please. thanks--Eljefe316 (talk) 01:53, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
Please accept my request
Hi Scraw, I wanted to say that there was something wrong with the edit it says their is an editing conflict, anyway if you can please try to fix this soon
Nevermind the last thing i said, but i want to know what was Aztlans relationships before DrDrake left and also what were the British relationships.
Can I have a link to the discord again.00:55, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
2018 StirlingsCongratulations Scraw for being the Lifetime Writer of the year. Well-deserved and keep up the excellent work!
Hey Scraw please unbann me from the Discord and please reserve the nation in central Africa around lake Chad for me I can't explain what's going on right now but I will when I get back! :)
Why I can't create new pages for my already existed Alternate Histories?
Re:Restriction of Editing
A troll has been vandalizing the Wiki for the past week (as you've seen). I have been in contact with Wikia to resolve the issue.
I'm not fully sure (since they haven't informed me), but I do believe Wikia has implemented a program which limits user's abilities. I have been told that this program has a 12 hour limit (they won't allow any more time), so I'm hoping it will be resolved soon. They have also implemented range blocks on specific IPs to prevent the vandal from creating additional accounts.
However, I'm not sure that the specific issues taking place are in relations to this. The protection program is limited to 12 hours and is only programed to block the full activities of new users. This is clearly not the issue, as the users in question are not new and they are still able to edit articles. I also don't believe the IP blocks are the issue.
hi, I'm new here and I want to join the game as the Great Khanet.
Found this empty article, won't let me edit or anything so I thought I'd throw it your way for deletion (won't let me add Delete category or anything). The author has been inactive for 6 months so it's not like he quickly made it and plans to edit soon. That's all, - FPNow 10% edgier!!! 12:05, May 4, 2018 (UTC)
unban me from the Discord please.... (----)
Privyet Scraw, It Arsenic, I am currently unable to access Discord and had a question concerning PMIV. I do understand about my failed attempt at Rhineland and was wondering about choosing another country if possible. Many thanks Lord Scraw. Sincerely,
Why can’t I remove Egypt from the war?
I just need to know why I can’t remove Egypt from the Great War Page even though I’m not a part of the war, I’ve been wanting an explanation for a while now. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 01:54, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
I would like to know why I can’t remove Egypt when I am not a part of the war. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 02:08, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
Really Really Like 1000 years late
Hey can i join Principia Morderni IV as Tasmanian Rebels against the British,it was a cool idea that I had and WW1 feels like the right time
Question: What if I was just a rebellion until WW1 ends then turn into a nation if the British haven't defeated me.
Hi, I’ve been wanting to try and join Principia Morderni IV for while, but I’m not sure how to join (or play, haha). Can you give me any advice? Anything would be appreciated. :)
you know probably know why i'm messaging you, and it is because i am banned from the game.
all i wan't to know is why i was banned, and if i can be unbanned.
i am guessing it is because i have been very annoying to you this year, blamming you on everything and insulting you, but of course i could be wrong, nevertheless, i await your response.
Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 21:43, October 25, 2018 (UTC)
PMIV Genocide reaction
Hello Scraw, Its Joseph, the Uluru player. Im sorry to bother you but Id like to ask if you could undo the mod event about the immigration stoping to Uluru due to the ethnic cleansing. Don't get me wrong, It would be a totally realistic response normally, but the genocide ended over 2 years ago and was blamed on a large number of people who have already been punished. Now, even with that I can still understand the reaction, but it makes no sense for immigrants to continue coming to Uluru for 2 years after the anouncment of it occurring and then suddenly stop, which is essentially what has happened here. Again, im sorry to bother you with this, but its a major issue for me in the game and I just felt like you were the best person to go to about this, thanks.
What countries are available?
Your Loyal Subject,
am i banned for 30 days?
Hey Scraw, I found a possible country to be, I just wanted to check. I've been super busy so it took me a little while, but I was wondering about the plausibility that I could be Hawaii.
are you the senate?
Two weeks has passed.
I would like to participate in MDM. I was told to warn you and give a free country, so I would like the County of Blois if possible.
Have a good day.
☆ Léopard ☆ 15:08, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
My Reply To Certain Concerns
Good evening. In light of the concerns raised on my talk page, I will start going through what I've done so far, and will aim to refactor as much of what might seem "peculiar" as I possibly can. It could take some time to do, but I'll get around to addressing the issue as soon as reasonably possible. I promise. ★ EL CALIFORNIO ★ 02:08, October 10, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up the mess on the Front Page.
|For slightly palliating the damage wrought by Corporate, I award you this Barnstar. Benkarnell (talk) 21:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)|
can you help me on nine earths project
on evrything with the calandars
I have been starting to write my own content. I even left a message for Centrist16 a few days ago that I would cease and desist from "borrowing" from his Sierra article, wholeheartedly apologizing for what happened, and even temporarily removed large chunks of my article so that I could work on it before adding the reworked content back in. I would prefer it if Centrist16 gave me guidance on how I am doing, since he and I took most of our underlying inspiration from the same what-if in history. ★ EL CALIFORNIO ★ 16:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)