Talk: Vandenhoek

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Discord Link

Hi there, 

Here's a link for the discord. It expires after 24 hours, so be sure to bookmark the discord. 

See you there!

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 16:07, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

I'm going away for a while.

Some people will be happy about that.

EoGuy99 (talk) 07:51, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

maritiem?

In the Dutch language?

Bil EoGuy99 (talk) 03:29, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Deleted File

Sorry about that. It had two instances of "PNG" in the file name, which usually happens when someone uploads a duplicate file. I have rename your file to prevent this from happen aging again, but please keep this in mind to avoid it in the future. Thank you. -- NuclearVacuum 18:48, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Template

The only purpose of that template was to add a specific color. This can be achieved without the need of a template (hence, it being redundant).

I already corrected the issue on your page (which you can see here), and it doesn't change the look of the article.

You are correct that there are still templates like this, but they are slowly being removed from the Wiki (due to the same reasons). While they work fine on Wikipedia, this Wiki incorporates multiple timelines with many differing possibilities. It's simply easier to use the direct coding. -- NuclearVacuum 14:48, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Okay

Please understand that my decision was pure-hearted and wasn't intended to be antagonizing in the slightest.

I will be reverting your template and I will be leaving you to your own devices.

I truly hope we can put this behind us, that you can see me as a friend and not an annoyance.

Please take care. -- NuclearVacuum 03:11, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

I did not know it was spelled two ways - Monterey AND Monterrey depending if it is in US or Mexico.

Some day I'll be perfect.

Bil EoGuy Mesa AZ EoGuy99 (talk) 20:56, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

New Netherland

May we have a discussion on the actual PMIV page? Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 22:40, June 27, 2018 (UTC)

In that case I will sign up as Avalon. Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 22:46, June 27, 2018 (UTC)

Nations of Arcadia (PMIV)

Is the land north of my border and south of the 35th parallel (Arcadia) no man's land, or is it a nation proper?

Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 21:38, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Oh ok thanks! Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 21:46, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Question on claims in Arcadia

On the outdated map, it appears that the former Scandinavian colony (now an independent Vinland) is in control of Prince Edward Island. Is this now part of Borealia, or part of Vinland?

Thanks in advance!

Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 03:04, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

en route

Looks like you're right.

"When spoken aloud, en route is pronounced identically to on root, although the latter has an entirely separate meaning. Also, the correct spelling of this term is always en route. A spelling without a space enroute occasionally pops up here and there, but it is a widely rejected spelling that you should avoid."

Sorry

Bil Mesa AZ EoGuy99 (talk) 22:25, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

to repair

If you use this you should say repair what.

Perhaps repair itself.

Bil Mesa AZ EoGuy99 (talk) 04:46, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

transitive vs intransitive verbs

"Verbs can be tricky things, and the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs often confounds even the best grammar students and writers. An intransitive verb is simply defined as a verb that does not take a direct object. There's no word in the sentence that tells who or what received the action."

"repair" is a transitive verb and requires a direct object - repair what?

"to be repaired" solves that problem.

Bil Mesa AZ EoGuy99 (talk) 06:27, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Hi I signed up as the New England player in Principia Moderni and I would like to attend your peace talks and end our conflict. I made a page here that you can add to:

https://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Peace_Talks

Thanks so much - Luigi899

Map Errors

Hey Vand, so on the PMIV map it has some errors, particulary in the Middle East. First of all, decades ago me and nate seized the ports of Aden and Port Said, So remove the British colors from there please. Thank you. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 14:05, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

wikipedia

battlecruiser or battle cruiser

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 01:53, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

I'll try to remember.

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 03:35, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Egyptian-Arabian War

Hey Vand! Mind adding in the next algo a naval invasion of Jeddah? If it succeeds, then include my force of 30,000 men continueing their advance from Jeddah to Mecca. If you are wondering where I get these 30,000 men from, then just take them from the 300,000 fresh troops I have sent to the frontlines in Palestine. Oh yeah, that’s another thing, I have sent an additional 300,000 troops to the frontlines and will be using them to perpetrate another campaign into Negev which will include heavy artillery and lots of bombings of entrenched Arabian soldiers (so include that in your final decision). Anyway, see ya later! Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 22:44, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

PM4 Defensive in Aztlan

Army is 5% of population (reasonable), stands at 1.66 million. Currently, troops are pushing into Texas (about 300,000 strong) and a naval blockade is around Texas (around 2/3 of the Eastern Fleet). Also, 350,000 troops are pushing south to combat New Granada, leaving about 700,000 still unready, and 300,000 at the ready at the border of Novo Galiza and Maiam. Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 23:28, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

Well, Feud won’t allow nate to go crazy with this war, and nate has said he won’t really do anything bad or humiliating to Egypt post-war (he could be lying but idk) and plus I have the man power to wage this war, along with the equipment. I might consider a ceasefire or a temporary armistice though. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 02:39, September 28, 2018 (UTC)

New Algo for the Aztlani Front 

I just changed and improved the algo for the Aztlani Front which seems very plausible. Also there are Belkan Troops coming to rienforce me so it is implusible that Aztlan pushs me back.   Th3 Legnd 27  (Talk )  September 28 2018 18:39:50 (UTC)

Why I lost

May I ask why the Egyptian army got crushed? Me and Arabia had pretty equal armies in terms of equipment, supplies, and experience, plus I had the population to wage a giant war against Arabia, masses produced planes, vehicles, fire arms, and artillery. Did you not know about this? Or were you paid off by solace or scraw to have Egypt lose? I understand Arabia had a bigger population, but like I said before I could fight that as through my manditory 6 month military conscription for all men 16 and up I could raise roughly 2 Million Troops to fight this war, and I clearly raised a lot of troops during this war, yet I still lost, how? I’m surprised this wasn’t a stalemate. Please tell me how I lost because despite what the mods might think, I have a modern army, the manpower, and the industry to fight on par with arabia. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 21:23, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

I apologize. Though to me I feel like I Lost, Arabia totally steamrolled me in Ashqelon and Gaza and swiftly took the Sinai, so I assumed I was losing. Yes the Treaty says that, but I assumed that the reality of it was that I lost. I apologize for assuming you were tipped off by scraw and solace, though I accused you of this because those 2 are my most outspoken haters and both think Egypt is weak and backwards. Also I didn’t know I had raised 2 million all at once, as I thought I had to raise them in separate groups. Once again I apologize for accusing you of corruption, it’s just to me a stalemate doesn’t include my armies getting steamrolled by the opposing force. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 21:52, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

New War

Idk if I should go through with this Iberia war, I mean I just got out of a pretty brutal war with arabia, plus what if i lose? Idk how do I go through with this war? Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 02:05, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Okay so I’ll need an algo today whenever you can for the attack on Oran in Morocco. I’m using 500,000 Troops, I have decent air support though not as much as I usually do due to the distance from the nearest airbase.

Okay this war is going bad for me now, why? B e l k a

Algos

Okay Nevermind in the Iberia war algos, I’m instead attacking 2 Independent Anatolian States via my 2 port cities. I’m attacking both these states with 200,000 troops and some local militia.

Not fighting Iberia or Belka or any of Belka’s allies.

Fine don’t believe me? Check my post, I’m not invading Iberia nor did I ever declare support for burgundy. I DEMAND you remove me, I don’t care what scraw says or thinks I’m REALLY not a part of this stupid war, I might in the future but not on burgundy’s or arabia’s Side. My posts aren’t fake they are REAL and if scraw can’t understand or if you can’t understand then I suggest you both resign from your positions and hand over control to more mentally stable people. Good day. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 23:57, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Can you explain to me why I can’t even remove my own country from the dang war that we both know I AM NOT A PARTICIPANT OF? Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 02:45, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Battle of Salama (PMIV)

You forgot to make an algo for the Battle of Salama in which i sent 400,000 to capture the city of Salama in order to support the Belkan and Chinese offensive in Central Arcadia.Th3Legnd27  (Talk)  12:27 , October 3 , 2018 

I’ll stop editing when you give me answers and stop ignoring me. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 22:44, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

Map changes

Mind coloring those 2 Russian Anatolian Ports the same color as Egypt? Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 19:27, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Uluru Algorithms

Hello, im Joseph, the player who recently joined as Uluru in Principia IV. Anyway, I just wanted to ask for your help in making the algorithms for the next few turns in the conflict im currently in. I don't know how many British soldiers are in Carpentaria and Tasmania, both of which I am currently fighting in and dont know how to do algorithms for, so I would like to request your assistance with making the algorithms for them, Though obviously you don't have to. Id like to specifically request assistance with the algorithms of my counterattack into Carpentaria and invasion of Tasmania, thank you and sorry if this bothers you. https://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/User:JosephtheAwesome.

Uluru Algorithms part 2

Thank you for responding, I have a detailed thing on the campaigns here for you. For Tasmania I need algorithms for my initial landing battle at the port of Hobert with about half of my troops I sent there and for another battle at OTL Launceston if I succeed in landing and getting through the Bass Strait with the ships I dedicated to this. If those battles succeed then a joint attack would be launched with 30,000 troops from each part on Bicheno and Coles Bay well the rest of the troops from each would attack OTL Strahan and Queenstown to push the british out. Then if all of those were won the remaining British troops would be left in the Central Tasmanian Highlands and there would be either one final battle or they would surrender. I started the invasion of Tasmania in 1916 so ill probably edit the algorithms into my 1916 and 1917 posts. The push into Carpentaria just started last year so that isnt as much of a problem, the initial targets for that offensive, with 1/3 of the troops sent dedicated to each, where OTL Cloncurry, Pormpuraaw, and Ngukurr, with a major attack being launched on Numbulwar and then the island next to it if Uluru wins the battle for Ngukurr, and on Normanton, Nicholson, and Borroloola if the battle of OTL Cloncurry is an Uluran victory. For Tasmania I sent about 200,000 troops, well the Carpentaria counterattack also has about 200,000 dedicated to it, although im unaware of how many soldiers the British have in either region. Thank you again for this and sorry to bother you.

Re:Oringo Mundi

Meet you on the wiki chat. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 20:42, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I cannot acsess Discord, could you possibly send me the map on my talk page. Thanks

FranzJoseph24 (talk) 12:43, October 14, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, it’s fine. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 11:57, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

So you’re saying they have exactly the same culture as me? Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 11:59, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Origo maps

Hey, its Joseph again, sorry to bother you. I just wanted to ask if you could post the maps for my nation (Exhula) on my talk page (ill save them to my photo album really fast then delete it from the talk page so other players wont potentially see it), since I do have access to Discord but haven't been confirmed yet.

What is you’re discord name? FranzJoseph24 (talk) 14:56, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

My Discord name is just Joseph.

Origo Mundi Pixel size

Hi Vandenhoek,

I was just wondering, for the Origo Mundi map game, what size are the pixels IRL mesurements?

Ahoys123 19:43, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Request

Since you don’t like people editing even though the war is over, can you please remove Egypt from the co-belligerents please? Thank you. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 16:32, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Okay sorry thought we could edit it now, sorry I’ll stop. But how is egypt a co-belligerent in the war with burgundy. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 16:37, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Great War Page

Sorry, I missed that.

My mother went to her grave hoping that some day I'd be perfect :)

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 18:53, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Map Game

I was interested in joining your map game but I want to play as the Meshawti culture that you mentioned not the one nation. Is that allowed? -Davewest9

PMI IV

I was after the gray zone between Nepal and Kashmiri.

.

I was after the gray zone between Nepal and Kashmiri, what ever that is called. I was going to attack it's capital. Entry was from the north east, growing south west. It was to be vasilated.--Katie P Perry (talk) (talk) 00:16, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

<Quote>

• Kashmir war and diplomacy: The new regime in Kangra worries us. 100 more people volunteer to the call up for more infantry troops. 175 rifles of a design akin to the Short Magazine Lee–Enfield Mk III are made and given to the infantry. 350 men (50 archers, 55 horse cavalry, 200 sword infantry and 45 infantry riflemen) join the attack on the moutinus land of Kangra. We will come from the north west to target the capital, Kangra, then spread out eastward. We will oust the Raj (to replace him with his haire apparent (the crown prince), the thuggie ruling clique and all the war elephants. Once the Hindus are freed, we will pull out. The storming of Kangra, is like all of it, a heavy bloodbath where almost as Meany Kashmiris die as Kangarans, mostly due to the mountains acting as defensive terrain. It will be a Kashmiri vassal for 10 years. (Kashmiri Lutenant General Hari Rashive Gupta leads the attack.)

<Unquote>

What ever, I call off the stupid attack, It was just a moment of Trumpesque geo-political egotism on my behalf. Non the less, I still, I would like know the gray nation's name.--Katie P Perry (talk) (talk) 00:18, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

• Why is Kashmir attacking with an army of 300 people bearing "primitive weaponry" on another nation? Batran99 (talk) 00:33, October 20, 2018 (UTC)
• As I said, it's was stupid, I realised it, so I canceled the war. --Katie P Perry (talk) (talk) 00:44, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Aremenia and Tekke

No I took those ports, you just changed that for no reason, I got those ports fair and square. You seriously don’t respond to a lot of my messages and requests for algos and answers for certain stuff, so I kinda have to result in other means.

Nate and Feud were totally fine with me having those ports, so you shouldn’t have butted in. If I don’t get those ports then that’s really stupid as that was basically one of the only things I actually contributed to the war, and for the little men that died trying to take it would die without a purpose. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 06:00, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

Also are you dense? I clearly said AREMENIA. ArEmenia, not Armenia! Do you really think im that much of an idiot? Fine if you want to cross out all my crap I did in the last decade then fine, but it was on you for refusing to acknowledge my algo requests (yes I understand you were doing the Great War stuff but you didn’t even bother to respond) and I didn’t think taking those ports would be a problem, especially since I planned to give them to those 2 Turkish States that feud supported my invasion of. You refuse to make me algos, you refuse to answer the reason why egypt is considered a co-belligerent in the Great War despite it not even fighting, and make threats to not do things or you will rattle tail on me to scraw. I’ll respect any decision you make on these issues, but please understand my anger with the lack of response. Cybermats, created by the Cybermen, they kill by feeding off Brainwaves 06:09, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Vandenhoek,

You said you sent me a message here , but I don't see it. Where did you put it?

Ahoys123 02:03, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

"led" IS the past tense of "lead."

lead, led, leading

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 06:02, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that.

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 14:25, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

Some help

As the Republic of Aztlán has fallen, which government should I continue playing as? The exiled one or the current one? Hdjensofjfnen (talk) 23:44, October 29, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a lot for your help! ~ Hdjensofjfnen (as Aztlán) 00:49, October 31, 2018 (UTC)

Shut up

Seriously

Bil EoGuy Mesa AZ EoGuy99 (talk) 07:07, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

I'll try to remember.

Bil

trade post

Now I'm changing trading to trade.

Is that wrong?

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 23:37, November 13, 2018 (UTC)

"trade post2"

Done.

Bil Mesa AZ wmunsil@cox.net EoGuy99 (talk) 23:53, November 13, 2018 (UTC)

I've written my nation on discord can i join?

TSPTF Nomination

I talked to you about this over discord, but I still need to formally ask you if you want to be a constable on your talk page. You in?

Curmudgeonly yours - Crim

WARNING

DO NOT POST THE NEW TURN YET, I HAVE A LONG ASS AND IMPORTANT TURN COMING UP FOR YOU. [PS - Discord is blocked, and my VPN isn't working] – † ⌒⌒⌒＼(;ᄋ;＼)三(ﾉ>ᄉ<)ﾉ ~ ("니가먼저키스해!")

I won't be able to post until 1–2 hours past the publishment of this message, but thank you for your patience. I will see what I can do for now. {{CandySig}]

Congratulations

Membership badge of the TSPTF

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When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here. Since you are only a constable and do not have the power to delete or block, do not feel obligated to sign up for any duties you do not have the powers to do. Please inform and respect those in a position to do so if you see a problem that involves a need for either of those things.

Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck! "This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 00:53, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Vand, it's Arsenic, I am on a really shaky schedule for Discord right now, due to my moving situation and I was going to be posting a nation for Origo Mundi, but when you send me the map, could you send it to me via my talk page, it would be really helpful, thank you

ArsenicHalogen (talk) 13:44, February 7, 2019 (UTC)ArsenicHalogen aka SugarCubeAddict

Daddy why did you eat my fries

Choctaw Mundus Novus

I have changed the go to where we settle upstate mississippi, also can I be on the next map. Leonidas huh (talk) 06:02, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Stirling Award nominations

		You've been nominated
		You've been nominated for a whopping five Stirling Awards for 2020: Best New Contributor (of 2018) and Best Supporting Writer. In addition Degwanate of Jookympin is up for Best Map, Roosevelt with Added Beard is up for Best Graphic, and the Origo Mundi Algo is up for Best Non-AH Written Work. Voting is open through October 25.

Benkarnell (talk) 20:56, 14 October 2020 (UTC)