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I moved your topic to the right section. Mitro 14:38, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
Mildenhall Military Government
I have created an infobox for this article --Owen1983 15:13, December 24, 2009 (UTC) btw if you need help don't be afraid to ask
- Sorry it took so long for me to reply to your message. Its perfectly alright to write about contact with nations that are already canon in case the nation in question is a proposal. Mitro 22:26, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
don't mention it byddy Owen1983 16:08, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
Re: Omega Level Comics
Omega Level is going to be my company, as I will have survived Doomsday on Vancouver Island, and I love comics. So I figured I'd put some of the characters and concepts I liked at center stage. With no real competition for a while the characters would have time to build a following before they started competing with American Comics. Oerwinde 12:07, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
I have an idea for a survivor state based around the large town of Bourne. Wondering if you'd like to help because of your obvious interest in British survivor nations. Bob 20:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea, although I don't know much about Lincolnshire. As for first contact I was thinking perhaps something like a trawler from one of the coastal villages in Woodbridge reaching Bourne in the aftermath of a storm at sea. There could also be trading and sporting link between Bourne and Woodbridge and Bourne could get goods from the wider world via Woodbridge as I'm thinkin of having port of Felixstowe reopened ..... Verence71 20:52, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good since East Britain is meant to make contact since the coast is opened up to East Britain because of thefailure of the Fen pumps. Bob 21:24, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
So any first contact between Bourne and Woodbridge would take place post 2006?? Verence71 21:28, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Yes and on your point about the military. The East British military consists of the State Guardsmen. These are volunteers. Being a (very) rural area, they would be probably armed with weapons such as shotguns which most farmers in Britain own. Therefore the State Guardsmen would be armed though not in the best quality or quantity, therefore severely constricting the size of East Britain. Bob 16:25, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Assuming a breakdown of law and order post-Doomsday unarmed civilians would look for protection and where better to look than to professional military types. Over the years this protection would become second nature which is why Woodbridge was, for about 17 years run by what might be called a military junta. As for political link between Bourne and Woodbridge it might be an idea for the two nations to have close links so we can present a united voice against the Celtic Alliance. I'm not talking about in a military sense but it occurs to me that the CA might sometimes be too much of a superpower in post-Doomsday Britain Verence71 19:04, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
I'll report the problem to Wikia and see what they say. Until then I reccomend not trying to edit the infobox. Mitro 18:36, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
Cheers Verence71 18:38, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
Essex, as you'll know from having read the articles, is considering establishing a currency. I only really have put this bit in because I wanted the country to convert to using the New Pound, which Woodbridge uses, to strengthen economic bonds between the nations. Would you be open to the idea of Essex taking up the currency that Woodbridge uses in the near future (i.e., the next few months), with all the additional strains that would put on your mints and any related inflation?
And on that issue, just what exactly is a New Pound? I mean, is it a series of entirely new coin and note designs? Fegaxeyl 12:43, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Having given it some thought the New Pound does have new coin and note designs. I assuming that as society collapsed after Doomsday the old currency became somewhat obsolete. Barter was used in the first few years until things settled down
In principle I'd have no problem with Essex adopting the New Pound if we could find some way of Essex chipping in towards any increased costs. Maybe we could have Woodbridge and Essex each print and mint New Pounds with seperate designs for each country but which are legal tender in the other country much like the Euros made in OTL Verence71 14:55, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
That'll be fine, and Essex would be happy to establish mints and pay for any costs it may incur on Woodbridge as well as the costs of firing up the mints in Essex.. Fegaxeyl 19:47, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
How about there being an official ceremony on 1st June... On the stroke of noon the Essex ambassador to Woodbridge could make a ceremonial purchase using a New Pound made in Essex while the Woodbridge ambassador to Essex could do the same in Essex?? Verence71 10:41, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Brilliant! Something which leaves an opening for an inevitable micro-disaster to happen, like one of them having the wrong change and go down as a cultural legend. Fegaxeyl 16:06, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Of course if this works we could ask East Britain if they would be interested in adopting the New Pound. Btw I've pasted the paragraph about Essex adopting the New Pound into the Economy section of the Woodbridge article Verence71 18:06, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
You'v hit the nail on the head. Basicly all of the Somali states gained there indepedence and are now fighting each other. The most powerfull states in Somalia are now Somaliland and Puntland as they had the best organised resistance groupsVegas adict 08:03, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
I mentioned Jubaland in the Somali civil war artical as one of the first states to declare independence but its unsure what happens after thatVegas adict 17:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Seeing that it would make sense for some remanents of the Somali government to end up in Jubaland after Somalia ceased to exist as an organised countryVegas adict 16:04, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
In OTL when he was overthrown Siad Barre originally fled to the region of Gedo which borders on the Ogaden region of Ethopia. This would tie in with the fate of the Somali government in your article Verence71 17:39, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
How about an entity that calls itself The Republic of Somalia but which only consists of the regions of Gedo, Middle Juba and Lower Juba. It would have three main factions; the Somali National Front, the Somali Patriot Movement and the Allied Somali Forces who are constantly fighting over the control of the capital Kismayo?? Verence71 15:23, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
That seems like a good idea to me, I'm asuming it would be like the OTL Somali Transistional Government as it would be in a state of almost constant civil war and unrest?Vegas adict 15:57, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Exactly so, I would also assume that some of the Islamists currently fighting under the banners of Al-Shabab or Hizbul Islam would turn up in a similar guise in this world as well. .Verence71 17:38, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Just like in real Somalia most of those factions will be clan-based Verence71 19:35, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
I think they'l be part of the International. Should be interesting when there talking with the Ethiopian and Puntland delegates.Vegas adict 16:38, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
Blue sky thinking
I just had a crazy little thought, but would RAF Duxford have survived? All it has is an airstrip, a bunch of old planes, and no particular military value; its easy to imagine it escaped nuking in 1983:DD. Could some of your Woodbridge pilots have activated whatever planes they could fly and evacuate them to Bentwaters-Woodbridge, or even sling them underneath your helicopters and ferry them away? The idea is a bit far-fetched, but if your people were feeling bold enough (and decided it had value) I can't see why they wouldn't go after nabbing a few vintage but still useful aircraft such as fighter planes and the B-17 Sally B stationed there. Fegaxeyl 17:49, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
It's a interesting idea but there were actually 6 squadrons of A-10 Thunderbolts stationed at the twin bases so Woodridge wouldn't have felt the need to take a trip to Duxford. In the aftermath of Doomsday I'm assuming Woodbridge would have concentrated on using the larger planes and helicopter but maybe they would have kept some of the Thunderbolts in working order Verence71 18:42, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
You know I asked you for ideas on where to find images? Here are some of the best:Enjoy! (And sorry for giving them awful filenames, I may change this.)
Fegaxeyl 15:29, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
Very useful. I could use that one of the rookies to illustrate people undertaking their National Service
I have a gallery of pics I use for Woodbridge's military vehicles
The plane isn't exactly the type used at Woodbridge but only a real anorak would complain. The copter however is one used by Woodbridge and the pic was actually taken at the USAF station
Verence71 19:06, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
Concluding the WarsI've created this map, which shows the end result of our efforts in East Anglia. Note that you and East Britain have joint administration over (only) west Norfolk. If you have any problems please bring them up. Fegaxeyl 17:44, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
It seems fine to me and does give me a handy base for a any future attack into the rest of Norfolk Verence71 18:43, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
Verence, I've noticed you're only up to the 21st with your invasion article. If you would like I can help you edit and expand it, though if you want to remain sole editor that's perfectly fine with me. Fegaxeyl 10:04, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
What I could do is write the bare bones of the invasion to the "final assault" on Hunstanton which would be maybe 5 or 6 days worldtime and then if you have any suggestions for editing I'd be more than willing to take them onboard Verence71 10:45, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
If that works for you then let's do it! Fegaxeyl 14:59, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
I've just had to make a slight edit to the Invasion of Norfolk article cos I was having them move towards Downham Market which according to that map looks as if it already belongs to East Britain. That's okay though cos I just moved the assault a bit to the east :) Verence71 18:40, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
I've just completed work on the assault on Swaffham. There aren't really any big villages between that the coast although I'm thinking that a TBA clan might have taken over the former royal estate at Sandringham which might be the site for a nice little battle Verence71 18:37, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
Call me whenever you want the article beefed up. By the way, want do you want done with Babergh? We both know that it'll be a kind of... an iffy issue, given that it is sandwiched right between our two nations. However, we both know that it would uneconomical to leave it fallow. As Essex has the greater population and always needs more farmland it would be more economical and practical if we took it at some point in the near future - unless your nation particularly wants or needs it. (We can always offer land concessions to Woodbridge citizens, after all.) Fegaxeyl 19:28, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps at some point in the future Woodbridge and Essex could sign a treaty under which Essex takes control of Babergh while Woodbridge gains sole control of the Condiminium of West Suffolk?? Verence71 19:46, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
That sounds good. Perhaps we could put the tentative 'handover date' around 2013-15? Fegaxeyl 20:07, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
That works for me Verence71 18:18, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Fegaxeyl mentioned that you're from England. I have a pair of articles, England (Napoleon's World) and far more importantly, The Anarchy (Napoleon's World) that he was kind enough to look over and give me some extremely helpful pointers on.
Since I want my re-edits to be as comprehensive as possible, I was wondering if you could do the same? The England page is really just a brief nation overview - the Anarchy page is a fully fleshed out article detailing a very violent English civil war. Fegaxeyl found some things I obviously need to change with it and I was curious if, whenever you had the time, you could do the same.
Hope to hear from you,
KingSweden 14:16, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
Hey. Would you mind checking the talk page of the OBN article for a proposal I wrote. Thanks. 16:27, August 9, 2010 (UTC)Fegaxeyl
I'm just not keen on the idea, at least for Essex. It says that our governments corrupt, and putting extra expense into something which most citizens wouldn't even think happens. I'm not saying we aren't corrupt (and that's a future scheme I have for Essex), but I just don't think our governments need the system (yet). Essex is, of course, the oldest democracy of the nations, so citizens there would naturally be the most skeptical. Fegaxeyl 18:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough it was just a thought. I've edited the piece so the observers are available on request rather than compulsory. How about that?? Verence71 22:04, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
i checked Woodbridge out and the bannew looks like the one I saw in Editorial Guidelines i tried so i went to edit view and ther was nothing there i guess it must be a wikia script or something --Owen1983 12:12, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
just to let everyone know
i don't know if you are all aware of the page Owen has set up Provincial United Kingdom (1983: Doomsday) i don't know what you want to do with it? i can think of a few things!--Smoggy80 18:00, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't seem realistic so I'd just let the page wither Verence71 20:41, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
Got 2 for ya. Bob 17:53, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
Of those two I would prefer the one on the left although I was thinking of replacing the shield bit with the county sheild of Suffolk while keeping the latin motto Verence71 20:56, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
That third one is ideal :) Verence71 15:28, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
Hard to say.
At this point, several nations have been written as having applied to join. Their applications, as of yet, have been put off being approved or denied, etc. because of the fighting.
Way I figure it, they'd be considering applications during this month, and into February. Woodbridge would be part of this, I'm sure - though I myself consider a full membership unlikely, with an observer stance probably coming first.
Note that I've been trying to get something done about the matter, but nothing has been discussed yet, honestly.
Lordganon 22:56, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
Good to hear, I guess.
Considering the status of Woodbridge diplomatically - i.e. not allied to an ADC member - observer status of some sort would be the likely outcome. Though, a few other nations, which are allied to various ADC members, will likely get to bypass that - who knows, we may just let all become full members right away, lol.
Lordganon 09:51, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
Woodbridger territorial claims
Just updating the ol'map. Just give a rough map of Woodbridge's territorial claims, and what it controls, maybe a sphere of influence and I'll incorporate it in. Mumby 18:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Updates on progress on BHD
I'm working on it. But the hardest part is just finding somewhere for the thing to crash! Fegaxeyl 20:19, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for that, but not long after I posted it, I found a pretty decent site - the Ipswich Old Cattle Market Bus Station. It's just a few hundred metres away. What do you say to the idea of the FC ground being some kind of fortress for the main gang in town? Fegaxeyl 20:35, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
I've put in the enemy being the 'People's Army of Ipswich' - they're the biggest gang, and have the problem with Woodbridge because the corrupt officials are supplying their enemies with guns, but not the PAI. I guess that the more conflict there is, the greater the demand for guns, and as the PAI controls most of Ipswich, if it were able to control the whole town, there'd be no conflict, and therefore no guns to sell.
For added points, the PAI could be a pretty nice organisation, serving its followers well. They would be happy to negotiate with Woodbridge for supplies - but, as said, they hate Woodbridge, because they seem to be pushing the PAI out of the way to keep things chaotic, and therefore profitable.
Therefore, Woodbridge goes in to take out the 'Mayor', the whole thing goes wrong and they pull out; in the process, the Sea King gets shot down. Initial rescue attempts go wrong and the Mayor broadcasts to Woodbridge of the corruption, probably in the form of a ransom: 'stop arms supplies and return the arms from the clans you've sold them to, and we'll return your men'. Robson denies this and sends in the troops, but the whole scandal starts. This probably dissuades Essex from intervening. As to whether Robson knows of all this, that's up to you to decide; he may try to confiscate weapons that have been sold. However, these weapons would belong to 'friendly' clans, and obviously piss them off, perhaps turning a few against them. Woodbridge is committed, however, to rescuing the captured airmen, and does so with significant losses. As many of these wounds were inflicted by guns that were made in Woodbridge, and sold by military/Tory officials, that results in a huge backlash against the 'traitorous' Tories, and loses them their seats. When the whole thing is over and the captured and surrounded troops are relieved, the PAI's power is broken, and so is easily absorbed by Woodbridge, as are the former 'friendly' gangs. The only real danger are the ones on the far side of the river, and they'll submit once Woodbridge makes their position unsustainable.
Does that work? :P Fegaxeyl 22:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Verence. I'd like to apologise for the fact that I can't update. I'm in the middle of exams right now, so the earliest I'll be able to get anything up is Friday. Again, apologies. Fegaxeyl 15:02, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
Certainly! I get the feeling that his expression upon receiving confirmation of the corruption would be rather priceless... I'm at the end of this batch of exams so I should be able to get more regular updates on the article in the near future. I'm thinking something along the lines of the hostage swap going wrong and Woodbridge losing ground in Ipswich to PAI and, the next day, the various gangs that resist having their weapons confiscated. A day or two after that, Ipswich simply explodes in something of a free-for-all as Woodbridge attempts to rescue its prisoners and tries to crush the rebelling gangs. Fegaxeyl 14:55, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like you know where you want to take the political side of things. I'll keep it military and just allude to the fact that more and more people in the military and government are being found out. Fegaxeyl 15:11, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
Would you be at all interested in a Lieutenant or Constable position? Lordganon 15:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
Well, for both it's largely a case of if you see vandalism, remove it. As a Lieutenant, you can also back that up with a ban, and protect pages from vandals as well if you feel it's needed. Really quite easy work, and just something that you watch out for it when you're reading the wiki or editing your own articles. Really though, there's not really a learning curve between the two of them, so it comes down to preference. My mind, though, I think you'd be able to handle the Lt. job readily.
Lordganon 06:33, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Which position, then? ;) Lordganon 21:39, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Done. All you have to do now is accept it. Lordganon 22:46, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
All you have to do is post in the "Discussion" section of your nomination at http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_History:Request_for_user_rights saying why you think you should have it, and accept the nomination. Lordganon 23:01, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations, you are now a Lieutenant in the TSPTF. I would like to spend sometime discussing those powers:
- You should now notice a red button at the top of every article with the word "Delete". You can use this to delete articles, obviously. Use this power sparingly and always stay within the framework of the Deletion Policy. The policy itself was passed with little discussion, so if you have any suggestions or comments regarding it I would be glad to hear it.
- You can also block users from editing. This can be done by clicking on the History page for articles or the Contributions tab on editor's user pages. Again, use this sparingly. This is our most destructive tool. We don't have a policy on this, but there is a general custom that has been followed: always assume good faith with edits (unless obviously vandalism), warn before blocking (try using the three strikes approach) and start with short block durations for first time offenders. Generally other administrators will not interfere with your decisions regarding blocks, as long as it appears fair on its face. Permanent blocks, however, must be brought before the TSPTF as a whole and will only be confirmed if there is a 2/3 approval.
- You will also notice a button on the top of every article that says "Protect". With this you can prevent certain people from editing a single article. The first level prevents anons and new users from editing an article. The second level limits editing only to administrators. Use this to prevent excessive vandalism or to prevent edit wars between users.
- There are other obscure powers that are not used often. If you have any questions on those or the ones I mentioned above, feel free to ask me.
Again, congratulations on being elected to the TSPTF and good luck.
Lordganon 08:35, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
Also, this allows you to showcase the TSPTF membership badge on your user page. Furthermore it gives you the rollback power on this wiki. In the History page of an article you will notice a new option called "rollback". This is an anti-vandalism tool. It allows you to quickly undo edits in case someone has made more than one edit to a page. By clicking rollback it will immediately revert the article to a time before the offending editor edited the page. This is your most important duty. By agreeing to be a lieutenant, you are promising to do your best to patrol for vandals and trolls.
When you get the chance, please go to the TSPTF page, and sign up for some responsibilities. In reality, none of us have the time to devote to all of the duties that are expected of an administrator of the wiki. You are expected, however, to sign up for at least three responsibilities listed in that section. These are duties that you are agreeing to carry out to the best of your ability every time you are on this wiki. I'm hoping that by doing this the members of the TSPTF can efficiently share the work load of the wiki and gives us time for the real reason we are here.
Lordganon 08:39, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
Hello there. I am very happy that you are interested in Acadia (the Maritimes Union). I haven't gotten into too much detail on it yet, but I do have a vague history in mind. The "Acadian Confederation" will form with the unification of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, PEI will join shortly after, and maybe Cape Breton will request provincehood. Newfoundland would follow a similar history up until 1949 when they too join the confederation. Other than that, I have very little else on it. As for Labrador, very interesting question. As far as I know, it was under Lower Canadian control at the time of the rebellion, so it is likely that it would also go with Lower Canada into the Republic of Canada. I am also considering that the US may be more pushy on getting their proposed border for Maine, so the region will be quite different either way you look at it. But as for a secessionist movement in Labrador, now that is a very interesting idea. I could also see it as an irony for TTL (since Quebec wanted to leave Canada, and now part of Quebec wants to leave). But other than the fact that Newfoundland had claim to the region, would there be any other reason the Labs would want to secede?
- So sorry for delay in response, but I have been pretty busy lately. So let me start with your first question. I have been thinking that the two Canadas would mimic Texas in a way. The rebellion/revolution would begin in 1837 (as in OTL), and would roughly end around 1839. The two independent Canadas would be united as a single nation known as the United Republic of Canada, but would peacefully break apart by 1845 due to differences between the English-speaking Westerners and the French-speaking Easterners. Upper/West Canada would vote for annexation into the US, possibly being divided into three states; while Lower/East Canada (including Labrador) would become the bilingual nation called the Republic of Canada. The Labs would be willing to remain in the republic under the conditions of bilingualism of French and English.
- I have been doing some thinking about Acadia lately. One idea I thought of was the possibility of adding new provinces (ones that don't exist in OTL Canada). Besides Cape Breton, I was thinking Bermuda could become part of the confederation. Just a though, wanted to know what you thought. I have also though of a flag for Acadia that I have been meaning to upload for a long time now. It is based off of a few flag ideas I saw for the region in other alternate timelines. But if you have any ideas yourself, I would love to see them. As for Labrador, I personally am still keen on it remaining in a Canada. Though I can't say what kind of government this Canada would have, but it could be possible that it developed (or would develop over time) into a federation or a loose unitary state. But I can't see the chances of Labrador leaving TTL Canada as did Quebec in OTL. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 23:35, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
- The other ideas I though about were the West Indies Federation, Jamaica, and maybe the Bahamas. As for the flag, I don't see why Acadia would want to keep the Union Jack if OTL Canada, the Maritime Provinces, as well as most of the British Caribbean islands don't have the Union Jack anymore. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 15:31, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
No idea on Strathclyde. The flag of Scotland has been in use since the 9th century, so that'd be the Scottish flag in 1066. The Coat of arms... the royal banner may function, though I wouldn't do it - but the royal seal/coat of arms/standard of Malcolm III, the King at the time, would suffice nicely. Lordganon 17:57, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
Now that I have a basis to look and compare with..... yes, that is indeed the flag of the Kingdom of Strathclyde. A nice flag, too. Lordganon 19:07, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
Occurs to me, you could also take the symbols off the flag and just make a CoA, same colors as the flag, with them on it. Was done often enough in the period at question. Lordganon 17:43, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
Not as nice as the flag, but here it is.
Also, converted the flag to .png and cleaned it up. An improvement over .jpg
Lordganon 21:38, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, given the emblem for that nation, that would be a very good CoA. ^^ Lordganon 04:22, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
The Roman Empire Rules Supreme
I am wanting to create an article about what would have happened if the Roman Empire didn't split itself and there would have been no dark ages in the world. What happens if the Roman Empire stays strong and and they are the first ones to reach america. Your opinion please! :) 184.108.40.206 19:21, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
Mumby has asked me to take over Newolland for a bit, as he's busy at the moment, just a quick question about West Norfolk and its joint governship by Newolland and Woodbridge.
How does it work exactly?, is the joint governership leading to the division of the area evenly between Woodbridge and Newolland or is it who ever get the most settlers in the area takes the land?--Smoggy80 12:33, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
Oh and also what are the plans for the rest of Norfolk? will it be divided between Woodbridge and Newolland evenly? i've had a look at the map of Norfolk and dividing it using the districts might be best
The map shows 1.Norwich - nuked 100KT device. 2.South Norfolk 3.Great Yarmouth 4.Broadland 5.North Norfolk 6.King's Lynn and West Norfolk 7.Breckland
I was thinking that Newolland get West Norfolk (and King's Lynn) and Breckland and Woodbridge get the rest? (although probably not Norwick, as it was Nuked) looking at the map it looks an even split of territory.
Or another possiblility, Newolland gets West and North Norfolk and Woodbridge gets the rest.
the invasion of the area will not immediatley obviously, but maybe next year, or Newolland troops can try and take Breckland this year once the destruction of the TBA at Rutland is all done.
What do you think? --Smoggy80 12:59, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
That sounds fair to me, would you want Newolland to assist Woodbridge in the taking of Breckland next year, in the same way as West Norfolk, or do you want Woodbridge to go it alone? --Smoggy80 11:58, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
Attack on Rutland
what with your post on the talk page i'm guessing you wouldn't be opposed to high Woodbridge casulties?--Smoggy80 17:24, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
RE: The Ipswich Incident
The Incident is unfinished, sorry. I'll admit it, I've never really brought myself round to finishing it. However, April 30th-June 4th should mostly just be the revelations of the corruption, with the only real action occuring on the 5th and maybe the 6th. If you'd like to fill in the details for April 30th-June 4th that would be great, and I think we divvied it up so you'd be working on the political side anyway. I'll try to get the 5th and 6th written up, but feel free to hassle me about it until it's done. Again, I'm really sorry for not committing properly to this. Fegaxeyl 19:06, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
I don't know if this would interest you but I've done some research and if the pumping stations fail Great Yarmouth becomes a town on a Peninsular with Lowestoft on the southern end sea on the east side and deep marsh to the west. might be a good base for some 'bad guys'
a line south of Soham sounds fine, so the south of East Cambridgeshire is Woodbridges, as is Southern Cambridgeshire and the area around the nuked city of Cambridge, you can also have the southern part of the district of Huntingdonshire (around the town of St Neots) as well if you want it?--Smoggy80 16:33, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
East coast line
That seems sensible enough, I'm asuming then that woodbridge wouldn't mind being on the ECM? Vegas adict 19:37, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure how that's a problem. If the trains go through woodbridge they will keep the same engine (A FR 2-10-0 or West Country Pacific) while the other trains can use the Bio-Diesel. That is unless woodbridge uses a diferent gauge or the people object to steam locomotivesVegas adict 19:11, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
I've been playing with the idea that West Norfolk will become a full part of Newolland on th 1st January 2012, will that be ok with you? or would you prefer the area change over later in 2012?--Smoggy80 17:40, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
What would Woodbridge like?--Smoggy80 16:38, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Take your time, there's a few months till January--Smoggy80 17:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
Any views on this? as there is only a week or so to go--Smoggy80 12:32, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
That seems reasonable, the area from a line through Downham Market (can we make this an offical border town?) and Upwell, south to the border with Cambridgeshire and Suffolk is yours. --Smoggy80 13:44, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
Had a slight second thought, how about using that line but making the western border the River Great Ouse? as the area west of that is already pretty much Newolland?
so the area in green would become part of Woodbridge
that sound ok to you?--Smoggy80 14:06, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
Also if you want it you can have the whole of the district of East Cambridgeshire if you want it?--Smoggy80 14:17, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, all of the district of East Cambridgeshire, in addition to the area in the south Cambridgeshire under your control, as well as that green chunk of West Norfolk.
So Woodbridge controls all in White and Green and will gain sector in Blue on 1st January, Newolland is Orange.--Smoggy80 14:55, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry will control 'eventually'--Smoggy80 16:22, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
New Acadia ideas
Greetings. How have you been? I have been getting into the Russian America timeline again, and I am going around and finalizing several of the borders. I am currently on Acadia, and I wanted to get your opinion on this radical idea I had. You can see the details here. I made a new flag, and I am thinking about adding several new provinces (most of them are not in Acadia XD). I know that you are the caretaker of this nation for the timeline, and I would hate do do any major change without getting your two cents on the idea. I hope you like them. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:28, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delayed response (been sick and I just went to the doctor yesterday). To answer your questions:
- Those are Saint Pierre and Miquelon. I believe that France may be very willing to part the islands to the newly independent and French-speaking Republic of Canada, plus it would be much easier to govern them from Canada.
- As for the Caribbean provinces, there are based on OTL. While the Bahamas didn't go further with the idea, the West Indies Federation (which included Jamaica and the Turks and Caicos Islands) showed great interest in potentially becoming a province of Canada. Whether or not this would have happened, the WIF dissolved before any idea could come to be. In ttl, the US would be a much more powerful power (especially in the Caribbean), which would only get stronger after World War II. Though I dough the US would be any thread to the British Caribbean nations, there might be enough tension to have these regions actually move towards provincehood of Acadia. But if this happens, Jamaica (and the Cayman Islands) would become their own province (because Jamaica was on the verge of doing so in otl when it was in the WIF), and the TC Islands would be merged into the Bahamas.
Sorry for the late reply, been away in Scotland with no internet.
Anyway, the settlement of New London is likely (very much like New Rome) survivors would've banded together and with London being so large the outer suburbs would've been little damaged or irradited by the nukes.
However i dont think that it would be affiliated with the Celtic Alliance now (it may have been originally) it would be more likely that it would be affiliated with a British survivor state in the area, rather than a Scottish/Irish survivor state. Mainly because they're closer.
That is my opinion however--Smoggy80 12:28, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
Re: Weird America maps
Coming right out of the blue and being blunt. Okay, no worries... for now. For the future, try not to be so blunt and quick on such requests (I was almost tempted to delete your request because of which), try being more gingerly. But either way, I would be happy to help out. I don't believe I have ever seen this timeline. A very interesting area to look into (the US loosing the War of 1812), and you probably would guess that I am a huge supporter of Russian California. But if you don't mind me making mention (no need to change it on my account), the Russian's had already used the name "New Russia" to describe the Gulf Coast of Alaska (primarily OTL Panhandle region), so I doubt they would call Fort Ross and any expanded area by that name. I would suggest either California (which was already used) or even Sonoma (my name for the Russian possession in my timeline). But I'm getting off the subject (forgive me, я люблю России).
For your flag requests (you wanted flags, right? Because your title says "maps"), I think I have what you want. I have already made a flag (ironically for my Russian America timeline) for the British possessions in North America. It is based on a proposed flag for Canada in OTL, and is pretty much the complete opposite of Australia's flag. It has a white background and blue stars. The stars are aligned as the Big Dipper, and it has the Union Jack in the canton.
As for the flag of Texarkana (reminds me of Texlahoma), I simply modified the flag of Texas, but with three stars (representing the three [founding] states). I hope you like these flags. If not, let me know and maybe we can work on new ones. Peace and love. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 02:39, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
- I understand (I get the same way myself). What I usually do to avoid such bluntness is wait a while before responding. I guess "California" would be a good name. But I doubt it would be russified in English translations. But if it helps, the Russians call it Калифорния (Kaliforniya), or "Kalifornia" if you really wanted the English to russify the name. I am glad you like the flags. The flag for Borealia (the "white ensign") I would be honored for you to use. As for the flag of the Russian-American Company, that is the actual flag used for the RAC in OTL (I am just the one who made it into a vector file). But either way, glad I could help out. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:39, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
New England flag
- It's okay. I have been trying to remove duplicates, so forgive me if I have disappointed you. I also noticed the COA, but I didn't remove it because one is enough. If you want to alter the same file, you can always upload the updated version to the already existing one. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 18:41, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
Woodbridge slide map
Just a quick one, is the slide show map on the Woodbridge page difficult to do? do you need specific software?
--Smoggy80 18:06, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
thanks very much, i'll give it a go
--Smoggy80 18:20, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Woodbridge in Bedfordshire
Woodbridge claims for Northern Bedfordshire would make sense, Woodbridge already has claimed territory (or had it transfered from Newolland) in Southern Cambridgeshire, but its likely that the south would go to Essex, as they control Hertfordshire.
--Smoggy80 10:51, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
I was wondering if Woodbridge would like the assistance of Newolland, Northumbria and Cleveland in the Woodbridge take over of East Norfolk in the near future?
I was thinking of Newolland advancing from their territory near Kings Lynn heading eastwards along the coast, Woodbridge moving north along the coast and a naval invasion from Cleveland/Northumbria in the Cromer/Sheringham area. Take the coast and then move inland?
All taken lands to become part of Woodbridge
--Smoggy80 13:40, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
I have to wonder why Cleveland and Northumbria would offer assistance. Woodbridge has shown it can conquer and subjugate new territories alone, and considering Norfolk has been strongly influenced by Woodbridge in the past few years it's probably not hostile at all. And after all, Woodbridge is the strongest military power in the region. Newolland's assistance would be plausible, though it's probably still stretched from its recent splurge of territorial growth. For our backward survivor states a naval invasion would be a nightmare to coordinate, extremely dangerous to do, and useless against a mostly placid and underdeveloped 'enemy'. Fegaxeyl 13:59, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
Cleveland has had trouble with 'pirates' from the northern coast in that area in the past, Cleveland assited Newolland in the past year with Lincolnshire, Cleveland wouldn't be using major military force, mainly engineers. Landing in a known port (with unknown enemy in the area) would be fairly simple, its basically transporting troops from Newolland ports like Skegness where they can be transported to using the new Lincolnshire railways and just dumping large numbers of troops in Cromer once its secured. Then spreading out from there.
Where Cleveland goes Northumbria usually follows
Newolland would have the want to secure its borders, just incase there are any 'bad guys' hiding in Norfolk, there were TBA in the area in the past some still may be operating in the unknown centre of Norfolk.
The area is flat fertile farmland, Woodbridge increasing its farmland would be a good idea but alos there is the port of Cromer in that area as well, a good port to develop for Europe wide trade.
Yes Woodbridge could take the area, but it could take a while, with assistance it could go much faster and with speed comes the ability to overwhelm any enemy before they could organise any resistance.
This is all up to Verence of course! --Smoggy80 15:00, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
Would it be ok if Cleveland and Northumbria sent a trade envoy to Cromer/Sheringham in the near future?--Smoggy80 16:45, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
A silly little thought
Hiya Verence! I've just been fiddling with this silly little thought recently. You know how Essex and Woodbridge both operate with the New Pound? I've just been thinking that language corruption or confused memories after Doomsday could result in 'pound sterling' becoming known as 'pound starling'. I think it would make a nice little cultural quirk for the timeline and result in the various 1p, 2p, 10p etc currencies each being named after their own British bird.
"How much are these iodine tablets?"
"One pound twenty."
"One pound twenty?! You can get them for just a magpie over in Great Yarmouth!"
...Could be how it goes. Feg 20:46, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
From Essex, I imagine the founding fathers would be those who set up the democratic system following the revolution in the early 1990s. I don't know who that would be, I never wrote that part up in much detail. Well - I haven't so far. Who would you have from Woodbridge?
Also, perhaps with the coins the 'heads' could be whoever's currently in charge of the nation, and the 'tails' is a kind of bird? That would mean the whole 'pounds starling' confusion would have begun before minting but got stuck and was embraced. I like that, it's quirky. Feg 08:03, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry Verence - what's the special link between all those people? Feg 16:31, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, right, so they're Woodbridgers. Well, I think we agreed a while back that while the coins look different they're legal tender in both countries, so yeah, let's work this into canon! Feg 17:51, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
Would American influence via Woodbridge introduce a 25p coin too? Feg 19:26, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I know that I'm not really part of the conversation but I just thought I'd mention that I Iike the birds idea more then the American inspired one since it's rather charmingly odd, although if Feg does use the Essaxon migrant worker idea things could get a bit confusing, eg
Essaxon : Can I borrow a blackbird?
Lancastrian: *look of total incomprehension*
That said, given that Woodbridge is full of ex-Yanks and their families, they might use the 'American'-style nicknames while Essex uses the bird ones.Tessitore 15:40, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
Outbreak in Kent
Hi Verence, yup, the disease is going to spread, but I've done a plot for it and I was thinking that the disease's spread will be checked at about Chelmsford; nothing will get further towards Woodbridge because Colchester - and the military HQ - is in the way, and they aren't going to let anyone past. Westwards, the A10 fortresses will be used to prevent it travelling in that direction, and besides the reduced population towards Hertfordshire will also stop it. Anyway, about the plan, I had posited that Woodbridge closes its border but does allow aid to move from the OBN to Colchester and back out, but no more. This disease is going to be something of a game-changer for Essaxon politics. Feg (talk) 18:01, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
If Napoleon died, the butterflies would be far, far greater than just the Americans losing the revolution (if indeed that would happen). PitaKang- (But here's my number|So call me maybe) 19:01, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
Re:British North America/Texarkana
I do not mind you using flags that are being used in my timelines. I however do insist that you do not re-upload them, as you so "kindly" did for my Borealia flag. --NuclearVacuum (Talk) 20:29, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
Have you ever read this artical called Anglo Teuton England ? ~unknown
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- Verence71 (talk) 13:49, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
Status of Norfolk
Currently in the 1983: Doomsday timeline you have a proposal for a country named Norfolk. And in the timeline right now, a war is in the mind for the entirety of old Britain for the unification of England. The problem is that every potential factor that existed after Doomsday and before this war can influence the outcome of it and Norfolk is one (for the territorial division after the conquering of the TBA that annexed it for instance or the local mindset). From sociological to military defense aspects, your article can change the region in such a large-scale war as the one we are preparing. And for such a war full of twists and details that will make it as captivating as real history, we would need to rewrite it all over to include the effects that the existence of Norfolk led to when it would be canon if we write it before its canonization. So my request is: would you be ready to start working again on it so it can be canon after? Remember to take into account geography, all the conflicts with the TBA (I saw on a old map it became a condominium or something? I'm just a bit confused in all of this sorry), refugee crisis, who's alive to organize it and when exactly it was annexed by the TBA (and the aftermath consequences of that). That would make a great if short-lived country compared to others nations in Britain.
Let me hear what you think
There was never a single survivor state in Norfolk just collection of small towns and villages. The TBA only ever controlled the far west of the county. These articles may help to explain
Verence71 (talk) 19:25, March 28, 2020 (UTC)]
It's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about this article: https://althistory.fandom.com/wiki/Norfolk_(1983:_Doomsday). I'd very pleased if you finished to it can be canon and we could now properly start creating the civil war in Old Britain. Because any new canon article after we start this and we would need to rewrite it all over again (because of how it could even remotely influence the conflict in this part of the British isle). Your article shows it this way as a sort of broke region of surviving communities. How were they formed? Were there riots, refugee crisises here that could damage the region's capacity to sustain itself even decades layer? How did some of them fell into the TBA (if that's not the case, how did they escaped that fate)? Were there sympathizers TBA cells inside Norfolk that cauzed it's western part's demise and are they still active (so they could perhaps have a role in the conflict)? What other sociological factors could be considered result of that small-lived state? Would those lead to a popular favoritism of the Windsors, the Pollists, or just being restored as a now centralized state that does it's own thing like Essex in such a conflict (see how we can't go on without such details)? Were there shortages of food (are they still there)? How is East Norfolk? etc.
I would like to see the history of those small communities, how they formed and how they fell if they fell because it will be relevant to the conflict (and just fascinating really :) ). If it's already all told in these articles you showed me, great! It would be even easier then! A portrait of that region's history and culture would be a great idea don't you agree?
Verence71 (talk) 23:14, March 28, 2020 (UTC)
I'll certainly do some work on it