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| 2009-2013 |
- 1 Yemeni Invasion (PMII)
- 2 Koori Union Map PMII
- 3 on
- 4 Koori Union Dispute
- 5 PMII Map maker request
- 6 Koori Union (PMII)
- 7 PM2
- 8 Roman-Perisan War
- 9 Land Deal
- 10 NotLAH: Austria
- 11 Muslim Bloc
- 12 UKAP-Arabian Divisioin of Levant
- 13 Persia
- 14 Prussian War (PMII)
- 15 PMII Questions
- 16 NotLAH Algorithm
- 17 Re: PMII Napoleon n' stuff
- 18 PM II Algorithm
- 19 Persia
- 20 NotLAH: Holy Roman War
- 21 PMII Mod event 1743
- 22 Map Stuff
- 23 NotLAH Austria-Germany
- 24 PM2
- 25 PMII
- 26 Viva La Revolucion
- 27 SOCrelo
- 28 Territories
- 29 Random Rubbish
- 30 Colonies in PMII
- 31 PMII Vandalism/Changing the Story
- 32 Yellowstone 1930
- 33 You're Back!
- 34 Sup!
- 35 colony
- 36 A late reply!
- 37 Cookie
- 38 Your offer
Yemeni Invasion (PMII)
I know I am going into a lot of wars. But its all going to stop soon. I just want to take advantage of my 1.5. Eventually, my people will stop supporting the wars (when the 1.5 stops in 1679), then my Raja will die and my government will change. A crisis will happen, and then the nation will enter an era of peace as it rebuilds its strengths. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:55, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Von! I was just wondering if you were going to add all the changes to the 1670 map today or put it straight on to the 1675 map with the 1670-1674 expansion too? :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:50, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
hey the Roman colony of Madagascar has been expanding for 2,000 square kilometers for the past 37 years, and i dont think the map is accuratly showing that, could you please change the map as to include the expansion? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 17:47, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Expaning borders on a map is SO hard! I now understand Collie's (and your) pain. Oh, jst checking, but I can still invade 2 small states next to Bengal as long as they are before 1679, yeah? :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:40, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
The extemist sects (even though you crushed them). But yeh, as long as there is no war, I'm completely fine. And what do you mean by a stronger presence in India (if I may ask)?. :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:12, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
Koori Union Map PMII
Btw i have changed the borders of the Koori Union on the map to reflect the same borders as the ones on the tribal map. Thanks for updating the rest of the map though. Hailstormer (talk) 19:37, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Why have you changed it so that the tribes i accepted into my state are no longer part of the Koori Union on the map? The borders i had on the tribal map and my version of the map were accurate and no-one has claimed i have posted anything implausible so the borders on my map should be the ones used. So could you change it back please? Hailstormer (talk) 20:11, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry i think i messed up the explaination of what i meant. I now know i can't have two nations so i have removed everything to do with that in my post. I have also removed the part refering to creating the second section of the Koori Union as i agree that it would be implausible to have a nation split by such a large distance. The map change i am refering to is when my map was replaced with your map after i changed it. The map that i am refering to is the one below. This map reflects the tribes that entered the Koor Union when it was officially made a nation, whilst also not having any part of the extra claimed land added. Hailstormer (talk) 16:29, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah that is what i have started doing so don't worry about it. Just a quick question, the islands in the Bass Strait, not Tasmania the other two, can be colonised as part of my main nation right? As they are only in a strait rather than across an ocean? Hailstormer (talk) 16:51, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
One last question, how would i go about forming a Koori enclave on the continent? I want to secure the sacred site of Uluru for the Koori Union and due to its position it would be an enclave. Would this be classified as a colony? Hailstormer (talk) 17:22, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Hey buddy i was hoping you could help me with the algorithim against the Pitjantjatjara tribe? Since it is my first algorithim i was hoping someone could help me do it. Also instead of turning them into a vassal could i turn them into a member tribe of the Koori Union and keep them as an enclave? I read through the rules and it says that i can choose to do what i want with the tribe as long as it is plausible, and i think that turning them into a member tribe is plausible. Hailstormer (talk) 20:16, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
Koori Union Dispute
Could you please have a look at my post in 1978 as the Koori Union. Someone is trying to dispute my rate of expansion when i have only stuck to the 10000km you told me and crossed out my post. Hailstormer (talk) 16:33, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
I haven't take over the whole of eastern Australia. Also my expansion didn't take over the course of a year. Over the course of five years i colonised a very small trail along the coast. Have a look at the Koori Union page for the map: http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Koori_Union_(Principia_Moderni_II_Map_Game)
can Rome buy some lands from the Caliphate
PMII Map maker request
i don't know if you and the rest of the mod team are looking for a new map maker or mod at all. but seeing that ap is gone,and that there has been some problems with the maps until now i'm wondering if you would need another map maker in case neither you or Collie are able to post the next map or anything. if you are currently not considering to add a new member to help in the map making of the turns to come. i at least here by show my interest if in the future you may need any help with the maps Sine dei gloriem (talk) 21:29, April 28, 2013 (UTC) also, excuse my grammar
sure go ahead. if you do make it into a game though again i would apreciate it if i could be an honory mod, no real powers but can suggest stuff to you and the other mods. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:06, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
I have threatened the Persians that if they step into Sindustan, diplomatically or otherwise, I will be defending Sindustan and invading them. You in for some land "which the Capliah regrets selling?" :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:58, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
Koori Union (PMII)
Hello once again. As you may who may not have seen i purchased a number of islands from Japan not long ago. I am hoping to expand upon this. As a result would you be willing to let me buy your island colonies north of Australia. It would be greatly appreciated and down the line it won't be forgotten. Hope to hear from you soon. Hailstormer (talk) 00:15, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
Go right ahead (although I'd prefer if you could rather just vassalise the whole thing and colonies), since I kinda gave up on PM2 after a few changes. Good luck! :D Fed (talk) 03:26, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
Yes war with Persia. All 3 of us could do some damage and get some good land. Can u do a mod event killing the Queen of Azerbejian? DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 11:15, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Location: +5
- Tactical Advantage: +8 (Attacker, High Ground, Larger Colonieal Empire)
- Strength: Rome (L+4), Hungary (M+3), Wallachia (MV+2) Italia (M+3) Greece (MV+2), Aymará (MV+2), Malacca (MV+2), Siam (MV+2), Bulgaria (MV+2), Yugoslavia (MV+2), Dimurats (M+3), Azerbejian (MV+2), Crete (M+3), Cyprus (MV+2), Novrogod (M+3), Minsk (MV+2), Suur-Suomi (MV+2) , Saami (MV+2) , Astrakhan State (MV+2) , Riga Tartar (MV+2), Arabian Federation (M+3), Arab Caliphate (MV+2), Netherlands (M+3) = +57/10= 5.7, so +6
- Military Development:30/3= +10
- Economy: 30/3= +10
- Infrastructure: +15
- Expansion: -3
- Motive: +7 (Religous, Persia is non christian and its people need salvation)
- Chance: +5
- UTC Time: 1*4*2*9= 72=y
- Edit count= 6,203=x
- Chance= +5
- Nation Age:
- Population: 23,000,000, so +8
- Participation: 10
- Recent Wars: -3
- Location: +5
- Tactical Advantage: 0
- Strength: Persia (L+4), Armenia (MV+2), Mesopatamia (MV+2), Arabia (MV+2) = +10/0= +0
- Military Development: 3/0=0
- Economy: 3/0=0
- Infrastructure: +13
- Expansion: -1
- Motive: +10
- Chance: +6
- Nation Age: +0
- Population: 23,000,000 so +8
- Participation: 10
- Recent Wars: -3
So after a 7 year war Rome can annex 17% of Persian lands.
Rome and its allies have won, Arabia im going to make him give up control of Armenia and some lands along his coastline to that your to footholds there are connected. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 19:52, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
Hello once again. As you may who may not have seen i purchased a number of islands from Japan not long ago. I am hoping to expand upon this. As a result would you be willing to let me buy your island colonies north of Australia. It would be greatly appreciated and down the line it won't be forgotten. Hope to hear from you soon. Hailstormer (talk) 14:10, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
add the dimurats, they decalred war last year then i asked him to change his post and he did cuz i thought military support was better, guess i do coaltion wars wrong DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 16:06, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
As you requested I signed you up for Austria. To fill you in on Austria's situation, after the apocalypse the Austrian government was severally weakened. The Nationalist party, a group dedicated to reestablishing Austria rose up and started a civil war. The Habsburgs, led by Karl von Habsburg, decided to seize the situation by declaring his house the rulers of the nation. The Habsbugs aligned with the Nationalists and were able to eventually take over the nation. The last democratic strongholds in the Alps eventually fell and the Austrian government fled into Lichtenstein. The country of Lichtenstein has since become one of Austria's main enemies, filled with thousands of Austrian refugees and rebels.
Also as I promised, here is your first turn already typed for you:
Austria: Following successful consolidation of Austrian core territory, a vast industrial renewal program begins. Work begins on an upgraded Bundesstraßen (Austrian autobahn) system from Vienna to the Austrian Alps, which will be used to transport supplies and building materials across the nation. The Nationalist forces who followed the Habsburgs in their war to reclaim their homeland are heavily rewarded, and the army is expanded, encouraged by propaganda and national ideals. Fighting to protect the Österreich becomes a sense of national pride, and is well respected. Other national parties such as the Progressive and Liberal parties gain some footing, but still remain a minority to overly popular and emperor-backed nationalist regime. The first council meeting of the Grand Council and the members of the Holy Roman Empire concludes, voting unanimously to sign a non-aggression pact with all members. All German survivor states are eventually added to the council through principalities and duchies, drawn by the Grand Council according to historic borders. Relations with Liechtenstein continue to decline, with much of their government influenced by the heavily popular anti-Habsburg and pro-democratic Austrian resistance. Strategists begin looking into possible plans to invade the nation and pacify its borders for good. We ask Bohemia to join the Holy Roman Empire.
Just so you know, Scandinavia is attempting to annex Germany, and the north German city states ask for your help. If you play your cards right, Germany can be united. Mscoree (talk) 03:54, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
Join the defensive only allaince League of Nations, as its anti imperialism allaince basically so that we can put up a fight against future agression by enemy nations. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 22:34, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
UKAP-Arabian Divisioin of Levant
Ok i talked to Fed and he said it was fine if we split the Levant, heres the chat log:
Ok, so will you agree to split thew Levant with me? Youd geta ll og Egypt, the Sinai, and Jordan, and id get Israel and everything else. DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 23:58, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Von, im the Lakota in PM2 and ive made contact with the Germans, can you uncross my post pleae, as someone else crossed a majority of it out. Thanks, DS|Fear the Mutated Dean Sims Bomb, Fear It 13:43, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
Prussian War (PMII)
I'm fairly intent on conquering and annexing Prussia. I want to be absolutely certain that I'll be able to conquer them con you help me with that? Yank 17:59, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
What I really meant was how much longer would I need to expand my military to get enough territory to conquer them? I'm really keen of the idea of Konigsburg being given a Lithuanian name. Yank 18:26, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I will counter-offer Timor. This will allow you to have all of Madagascar under Comchellakian rule, and will also free you up to some extent from having to maintain such and extensive naval presence. In addition, my colony at Aber Dinas is really close by (OTL Australia), so it would be beneficial for Wales. Reximus55 (talk) 22:58, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
You are gaining the entirety of Madagascar - over 225,000 sq mi - and you refuse to give up 10,000 sq km. Think about it, please? If you can, get on chat, also. Reximus55 (talk) 23:16, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Here is a brief explaination of the algorithm used in NotLAH.
To summarize the rules page, every major battle requires an algorithm. When you declare war you first must decide why you are declaring war and what you seek to gain, just like in real life. This is called your causi belli and your objective(s). You total up the number from each your causi belli and objective, and if your number is positive, you subtract that amount from your stability. If it is zero or negative no nothing to your stability.
Next you do the actual algorithm. This uses similar elements as other popular map game algorithms (such as PM2), such as location, tactical advantage, etc. The algorithm should be preformed on both parties. At the end everything is totaled and the person with the highest number wins.
Some unique mechanics I should mention are the leader and soldiers modifiers. If you have a named, prestigious general (for example the US has used people such as Westmoreland and Abrams. If you can't find any you may make one up, with the appropriate context and back story.) then you can add some extra points depending on the leadership of your general. With the soldiers mechanic, you divide your soldiers by the number of enemies (each party does this).
Hey Von, any ideas on how to expand my empire peacefully in PMII?
23:15, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I tried the militaristic approach, but algorithm results have kind of been sucking for me recently.
00:08, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Relax, we can have a deal, i can give you the rest of kuwait, but i will like to expand ducht persia; i was thinking in make the entire country in a puppet, or u have any extra idea? Quashi (talk) 03:59, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Leader, Netherlands and also put all my team: Oldeburg, Liege, Iceland, Ducht Persia (vassals) and Kongo, Acech-Pasai (puppets). Also i will like to expand my colonies... Quashi (talk) 19:46, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Re: PMII Napoleon n' stuff
Hey! Sorry it's taken me so long to respond.
I am interested in an alliance with the Arabian Federation, perhaps a trade deal is in order? (And as a side note, how are your relations with a certain nation on the Horn of Africa?)
Also, a mini-Napoleon? In France, or another country? And does Napoleon imply there will be some fort of mini-French Revolution to produce him? It sounds like there are going to be some interesting times ahead for Europe! Callumthered (talk) 08:37, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
That sounds like a will stir things up a bit, but I suppose it turns out good for me in the end. I take it Saxony would be in much the same position as, say, Piedmont otl, ie: I get taken over completely, but my government survives in Saxon Norway and the Faroes? (Boy I'm glad I didn't sell them!)
The reason I ask is because my African colony is unfoortunately squashed between Kongo (a Dutch puppet, I believe) and an Ethiopian colony. I am thinking of ways to improve the situation, either through negotiation with one of the neighbours, or through war with one of them. But it's all just a vague concept in my head at the moment. Callumthered (talk) 02:38, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
OK, you have a deal, I want as much as I can get out of Southern India. Count on Georgia, Mysore, Travancore, Lanka, Luxembourg, Aquatine, and Chimu to be in this.
19:51, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
Saxony has declared full-on war (so I suppose that makes them a leader?) and the rest of the Confed. is just sending supplies/a small expeditionary force. Thanks for doing this, by the way. Callumthered (talk) 18:31, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, here is a complete list of members of the Confederation of the Rhine (excluding Saxony and Luxemburg)
And honestly... I'm not likely to join the war on either side, the stakes are too high but with nothing that I want now from Ethiopia I'm happy to stay neutral... Scandinator (talk) 16:18, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
I think we will be willing to see you withdraw if you agree on taking Yemen and transferring the Zanj colony to the us. Now you get the bigger and more symbolic land, so you up for it? Imp (Say Hi?!) 15:07, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but you did kinda start it. Now, will you accept the trade deal? We are still giving you land, and we ask for is the Zanj colony in exchange. Yemen is more important to you anyway, im pretty sure. :P Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
And lose all that effort I have spend over my nation. You destroyed my nation before, its not happening this time. Plus, if those two nations do not mean much, me'n Viva will discuss about letting them go. Although bear in mind, we will come after you now. Imp (Say Hi?!) 18:15, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Right, first thing. Who controls the vassals? You? No, us. They are not main nations. You don't want them to stop - sure. We want them to stop, they stop. They are on my side after all. We did give explicit okaying, however that was, as I recall, to player nations who were played by players? Who had uder their control vassals?
If our nations are doing badly, we occupy them and tell them to withdraw from the war. You don't want to finish this war, tough. We won, by 1 point, and we called it. The war is over, and you either take Yemen or we take some land from you - your call. Who said anything about me or Viva withdrawing - we fought on, and we won.
PM II Algorithm
It looks good to me, I have no objections. -Kogasa 2013 June 07, 01:47 (CET)
Well you tangled yourself in a massive war in the Middle East and Asia... Otherwise Imp and I would have been going for Gujrat and Minangkabau at this time. Scandinator (talk) 18:22, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
An Indian trading post would be great. But anyway, I'll see if I convince Saxony, to give me Gabon. The idea I had was if we won the war expand Kongo, but he established a colony there, and ruined my plans a little. Anyway I hope to count on you for anything. Quashi (talk) 04:56, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Nah, I found out Oyo is a vassal of the Mali. I don't know where Yorubaland is based exactly (aside from being in Nigeria), but I know that its located near Lagos, where the Yoruba are largely located. If I can find out where that land is, I'd be more than happy to keep it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:10, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
I have a Proposal for NotLAH. Seeing as to how we are enemies in PMII, it would be good to have us allied once more in a game. Now, here is a proposal for the division of Germany and West Poland.
As you can see, the Dutch would like a strip of land in West Germany, supported by South Africa, while if you agree, you will have our complete support in taking over all the specified lands .
I hope you agree as this would give me a crucial nation to back in Europe and for you to grow into a powerful nation and be my ally in the chaos we call Europe.
Want to deliver the death blow? I think there's just enough time left to add these results to the previous ones.
16:17, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
NotLAH: Holy Roman War
I don't know if you got my message from earlier, but you're now at war with Scandinavia in the Holy Roman War. They have already occupied much of northern Germany. The states of the Holy Roman Empire are asking for your help. If you do manage to beat back the Scandinavians this could be the final step toward full German unification under Austria. Mscoree (talk) 17:43, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
PMII Mod event 1743
Rheatia, otherwise known as Switzerland undergoes a revolt against France. Nine of the Cantons lead by Bern demand freedom from French influence much to the displeasure of Geneva. They seek Bavarian and Italian protection.
do you agree with this mod event, i'm asking because France has taken a expansionist expansion of its right to its vassals and protectorates and full freedom of action within ther nations as far as their actions mean no harm to others, and a like other nations has granted freedom to other ethnicities in the empire almost eversince the start of the game (although as Burgundy), yet nations like wales and germany have not been so favorable towards them, and instead of they being the ones that have revolts often enough, they have become world empires, and france who tries to do so, its been either broken or shattered.
so knowing these, as well as the fact that every main nation of the French monarchic empire is a constitutional monarchy, do you think the mod event is still likely?
Hey Von. I was wondering about my expansions on the map. So, seeing as to how Collie has not expanded it porperly, I would like you expand it properly please. Using the 1740 map, would you be able to add the expansion of my South American territories please? Now, in 11 years, the puppet state has expanded (10000*11) 110000km. In 11 years, both colonies have expanded (4100*11) 45100km (but it for each of the colonies, not total).
Thank you. And btw, the Netherlands does not get any German land, so just act as if the territory expansion never happened, lol. Plus, we are just about to win. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:50, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, your expansions did help, but I am 1064px short for the puppet state, and 571px short for my colonies. I have color counter so i counted it all. Now, I'm jus telling you - I'll fix the rest of the expansion myself. Thank you so far. :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:25, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
What is going on with this Napoleon based event, as my nation is directly effected i beleive i need to know, If i do lose, since Napoleon is defeated later OTL, would I gain my territories back right? or would I be up the creek without a paddle? Also why Germany? Our nations are way more stable than France or the Netherlands. I have worked immeasurably hard to create this Union and to enlarge my Bavaria, I don't want to lose it, it is why I play so careful and focus more on science. On a side note, can i call on the Arabian Federation or Levantine to aid?Andr3w777 (talk) 16:38, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
Hey Von. I just had a random Idea for the Strellokian War: Once he takes Anhalt (I'm assuming he does) could the Annists (you may or may not remember them, there was a Bonny Prince Charlie equivalent in the 1500s which was quite complicated but resulted in an exiled branch of the Anhaltese princely family claiming the Anhaltese throne) collaborate with him and bring about a restoration of the current Annist pretender (Carl-Johann)? And could parts of Saxony and Bavaria be annexed to Anhalt (during the period of Strellok's dominance), the way Hungary aexpanded during the Nazi years? I just thought of it all of a sudden. I'm not exactly sure why I want it to happen, but I think it would make Strellok's (short-lived) success in the Anhalt region more plausible.
What is the status over your control of Germany? Are you still playing as Austria? Are you also playing as Germany? can you let us know your status in playing NotLAH? G greg e (talk) 17:36, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
Well, my original idea was to create a commonwealth like system with all my American territories. I was going start creating dominions or something of the sort by the 1790s-ish.
23:12, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
I have created a map of my new nation, providing I can gain Russia and Portugal's colonies. i started mapping out the states, and quite by accident it added up to 13, funny coincidence huh? Andr3w777 (talk) 01:57, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
Ich muss mit Ihnen besprechen, eine andere Möglichkeit, wenn eine Nation hat eine Revolution, bekommen sie einen Bonus oder? Was ist, wenn mein Volk und eine stille Dritte hatte eine Revolution und dann folgte der älteren um Plan?Andr3w777 (talk)
You beat me to that! Anyways, gang up on Persia now?
20:43, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I need some time to recover from Strellok too. I think it shouldn't take too long. Would Qoyunlu join us?
15:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
Um... I understand that my empire is too large to stay together at the moment but I will end up releasing Hungary, Romania, Greece, Turkey and the Americas over the next 50-70 years. Just leave it to me. I then plan for a communist revolution in which I regain most of these areas and eventually evolve into a unified technocracy. Scandinator (talk) 10:59, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
Viva La Revolucion
So my General Aldersson(the former chancellor) has caused quite an uproar, due to the coming revolt being a popular one, as per rules, I should be able to keep my current nation age as well as gaining the 1.5 benefit yes?Andr3w777 (talk) 11:14, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
Als wäre ein gute Zeit zu anzugreifen
Apparently, i might not be able to post tomorrow, or after tomorrow, since we are replacing the floor tiles in my house, so, can you post for me in case i am not able to do it? (i think i have time to do the map, though)--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 09:46, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, as you can see, i overestimated the time that would be needed for the replacing on the computer room, so i can already post right now.thanks for the intention,though.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 15:45, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
Hey! Remember this game? Well, I was bored and deccided to remake it.
No, really. Join.
(Guns, who is too lazy to write out his sig) Hey Von, how you been? As you are probably aware I have decided to rejoin PMII as the Australian Aborigines, and as a result I have a few questions about the mechanics of what I want to do next. From what I have been told, from 1774, colonies can start to seek independence. Now what I want to do with the Australian Aboriginies is secure the independence of the Australian area of Nuevo Brescia, through either peaceful protest or populist revolt by the natives, and reform this land into a new Koori state. From what I have read, Italia is already dealing with rebellion in two of its vassals, and I was hoping to capitalise on this. Also as Nuevo Bresica is the largest colony in game, and equal if not greater to all other Italian lands, I believe a rebellion here is nothing but inevitable. But I was wondering on how to go about it, and what you had to say on the matter? Thanks in advance for your reply. Hailstormer (talk) 13:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
Well would i be able to prompt a mod event through my actions in game? Such as launching rebellious attacks by the Koori Resistance faction of the Australian Aborigines, or by organising peaceful protests by Aborigines within Nuevo Bresica? Got tbh i already know what his reply will be, but i will ask anyways. Well i just finished reading two books on Australian Aborigine guerilla tactics following European colonisation and i was hoping to capitalise on that, so sticking with the Koori would be my prefered option. However one other nation did catch my eye, but it is only slightly less risky... Hailstormer (talk) 10:42, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
I have no wish for war with you, so can I give Baghdad the land I gained in the last Persian war as a peace offering?
19:41, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm. I can give that land up to the Dimurat and Baghdad, but I'm afraid war with the Levant and Qoyunlu will continue. I gave Adana to Cyprus already.
20:03, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
You know I luanched this war because I was assured by several victory. And now I am set to loose everything, I am honestly very upset. I have begun plans to withdraw to Australis and make that my nation if i fall. Is there anyway once I become a nation, to expand faster than the 15,000 sq km, as it would take a long time to expand. Trust Me, I'm The Doctor (talk) 16:46, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
Hes attempting to ignore the last 200 years of effort I've put in the Balkans so I'm definitely against it... Its a gross violation of the rules... Basically anyone would be able to go in and revolt away huge chunks of a country... I've been really moderate. I'm one of the first constitutional monarchies and I have granted equal rights to all landowners across the country regardless of ethnicity. I was going to have Turkey revolt first but peacefully... but hes just thrown the plans out... Not to mention it was a horrific case of metagaming... Scandinator (talk) 01:06, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
I apologize if I went too far with the retcon... It was just that it had been 24 hours since the post and I wasn't going to let it influence my post this year... Otherwise it would be giving him a victory and allowing this breach of stability and the rules... Scandinator (talk) 14:26, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, so in response to your comment. Ive talked with the Old Baby and asked him if i could take over the Dimurats, and he said it was ok but that they were your vassals, may i play as the Dimurats.
i need u to come to chat its bout local and fuedal Warman555
Colonies in PMII
I'm just curious, are we able to at least play three of our former colonies at a time as per the agreement with Lurker or has there been a decision on having no one controlling any of their former colonies? -Kogasa 2013 August 09, 00:08 (CET)
So, should we still follow that, or can we control all of our former colonies (and if someone once to play as a colony, they can ask the original owner)? -Kogasa 2013 August 09, 01:48 (CET)
Sure, that's sounds like a good deal. I accept. -Kogasa 2013 August 09, 02:09 (CET)
Dude, I've told you I'm planning on getting them to break away over the next few years with several events akin to the OTL French Revolution. Im also completely out of time this week with psychology work so I dont have the time to check the page every few minutes and deal with these kinds of things... In regards to the Levant, thank you very much. And its a shame you wont be able to post anymore... Have fun on your trip! And stay safe!Scandinator (talk) 14:55, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
Oh no! It won't be the same without you. Have fun in HK though, I lived there for some years and it's great. Callumthered (talk) 22:30, August 10, 2013 (UTC) By the way, should I put an announcement up on the PMII Talk Page announcing the change? -Kogasa 2013 August 11, 17:42 (CET)
Von i have declared war on Great Brython and updated the algorithim, please can you have a look when you are free to make sure it is correct. Thanks in advance. Hailstormer (talk) 14:01, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
PMII Vandalism/Changing the Story
Hey Von. I just wanted to call attention to (if you haven't already seen), an important change in events in the past 24 hours. I have gone into a lot of detail on the talk page, but for now I just wanted to make sure you were aware. Pretty much, Hailstormer editted a turn 16 hours late, and then went ahead and changed the course of Brythonic history with that one edit. Thanks, and have a great time in Hong Kong! ~Rex.
Speaking of East Coast colonial wars, I'll be doing that pretty soon. At least a decade or so later. I'm just itching to start some good old fashioned small scale 1 vs 1 wars! :D
22:57, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
About that event of yours about me, I don't know what you are planning, but i assume that it's because you think that i'm taking too long to do anything concerning a possible Brazilian independence, isn't it?
If it is, I was planning to do something, but i don't know what to do.
Right now, there are only three ways for independence to be achieved.
- Establishment of responsible government.
- Slave revolt.
I was planning to do the first one, after some time, but everybody is establishing "Dominions", and i don't want to seem like i'm jumping in the bandwagon.and i still need to think how that would happen.I don't really want to go with the second option, as i don't know exactly why they would revolt.And the third...I would have to be completely crazy to do that.The only nation that achieved independence through a slave revolt was Haiti.and you see what happened to them.No way that i would want to make my nation worse than it already is.
So i have no idea how i am going to defuse this situation, and Brazil eventually needs to become independent.the conditions for OTL Brazilian independence can't be replicated.Do you have any idea?
Thanks for the quick reply. Whilst i am saddened by the result, i am glad it is now cleared up. Also, are we going to have another World War now due to Imp's invasion of Rex's lands? Hailstormer (talk) 10:14, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah we don't really have small wars anymore. I don't think he did, but Rex could declare war on these grounds for further expansion. He doesn't seem to want to stop expanding atm. Hailstormer (talk) 10:26, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
Well, basically (I think you saw this coming already) me and Scraw are disagreeing on what the final result arrives from. He argues that it is only his Mysore and Orientellia puppet along with mainland Brandenburg while I argued that it will be from all things in his colour as that was how it was done for me and Viva. What is your opinion on this matter? :L Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:31, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
I was always of the opinion that lands could only be taken from LEADERS, which is the precedent I have followed in all wars. Otherwise my empire would have been somewhat more massive.
00:54, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
Well, I don't think Brandenburg can really constitute as a leader, despite what Imp says. Even if it was, I released all my colonies in 1788.
19:04, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
Wrong. Common mistake. Each Dominion has its own suzerainty and is sovereign as a whole. The only thing it shares with Brandenburg is a monarch, akin to Britain.
19:17, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
So I take that as a yes. I invaded his puppet and Germany itself. Plus, Scraw in game they will be classified as puppets (dominions). So argument ended and 7188px won. Imp (Say Hi?!) 20:37, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
Wow - sorry about that. Will be more careful - my normal procedure with edit conflicts is to copy-paste my text AFTER everything else so if there's a better protocol let me know. Commandante Lemming (talk) 16:45, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
I wondered if you'd like to sign up for And There Was Light!? Perhaps mod, too? The one and only Guns, who is too lazy to go to source mod and type out his real sig. (talk) 16:09, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
I just realized what we were doing wrong. You see, you are correct about one thing: Imp can take territory from all the land that I play as. However, the amount of land that he can take has to be calculated from Germanica, Mysore, and Orientalia (leaders). So 1142px worth of taking from all my blue lands. My peace offer had more pixels than that...
17:24, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Is it alright if I take all of the greeks and bring them to Libya? If so then I would be taken over the counrty ok. Imperium Guy me to talk to you about this. ShadowKnights1234
Same story, different characters. Emphasis on characters. Oct is better, but he's still all over the place. Ratc got permabanned for sockpuppeting. New coalition of <insert explative here> generally defacing PM3.
Other than that, nothing much has changed.
I see that you've chosen a spot near me... African Caliphate? ;) lol Saamwiil, the Humble 00:42, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
That's fine, I meant it as a joke. Saamwiil, the Humble 21:23, August 7, 2014 (UTC)
Hey Von! Well, tbh, I left PMIII. It started to take up too much of my time really. It kinda got to breaking point when I was up 5 and a half hours before my chemistry exam arguing about PMIII! The exam went shit and I realised I really needed to tone it down a bit.
In hindsight, I may have stressed out too much over chemisty as I got straight-As. But I was actually playing as Hungary! And killing off Slavs and promoting Magyar-Croat culture all across my vassals and Hungary itself. I was doing pretty well too, before I left that is lol.
And don't worry, I'm not around much on the wiki either.;)
I'm almost entirely sure that's hamburgs colony. My colonies and territories are in Mexico Texas and the American southwest/west. My other colonies are in South Africa and South America. You'll be talking to I am that guy more than likely about the colony. Sorry for any confusion.
Hi Von, its great to finally meet you. I'd love to establish relations with the Cherokee, and will be more than happy to help you in what ways I can. As for my relations, Rome and I are getting along after some rough times, France and I are also ok.
Looking forward to talking to you more,
Well, 500 px is what the older colonies expand in five years, so this is quite excessive.Considering you don't have any colonies, i suggest you start expanding 10 px a year.And i don't know what your nation is.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:19, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
I still don't know.i advise you to use whatver you used in PMI and II. and i also don't know the name of the area next to you.As you said, it is never given anywhere.--Collie Kaltenbrunner (talk) 07:33, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
A late reply!
Hey Von, so sorry for the late reply!
Oh god, such troubles. Man a laptop getting stolen must have been a huge problem. Did you have insurance on it?
Hahaha but HK has a few protests and stuff going out so it ain't all that bad. Yea, I guess life must have been pretty hectic (in a good way), and its always a shame moving and losing touch with friends, but I guess Facebook helps. ;)
Hahaha its all good if you have a shiny, fast laptop. Yea, like computing speeds must be quite fast lol. Oh that is pretty cool. So like did you just land at the airport and spend a few days in the country or did they come to meet you at the airport? Haha yea but making new friends can take so much effort lol.
So you would have wanted to be involved in all the protesting? Yea but it is the PRC and their gain in geopolitical power will allow them to do that. Especially now that the world is more focused in the Middle East and the temporary truce in Ukraine seems on the verge or breaking.
Hahaha yea I get that a lot (on the wiki XD). Oh, that is always shit. Well, a few more months and it will be over, keep telling youself that. Oh, ok. I might be looking to go further than a masters, but that depends really hahaha.
Well I realised I had to get away from the wiki when I was up til 2:30 because I was fighting over colonisation rights in PMIII when I had a chemistry exam in 6 hours. After that, well I was busy over summer playing cricket, as you do XD But yeah, they really amp up homework and it makes life problematic. I also got into reading ASOIF fanfiction (quite sad, I know, but it was great). :D Imp (Say Hi?!) 09:22, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
Hahaha that may happen, especially if you try to treat your friends and stuff ya know?
Oh yeah, definitely I have no doubt that thisis probably just the first episode. But HK has benefitted from business in China I would think. Cities like Beijing and Shangai do try to replicate some of HK's success. Hmm, yea I have heard that it is a popular destination. Perhaps I may go too, but that is many years away haha.
Yea I guess. The workload and stuff is bound to increase so I guess I'll just have to enjoy this while I can and before things get hectic. Yea, I had a serious case of GoT withdrawal, still suffering from it at times but its ok now haha. I know what you mean, I am only like 100 pages into the second book but I know most of the storyline. Yea there are quite a few differences between the book and the show. Like season 4 was good, but they have changed so many things its not even funny anymore. Where is Arianne Martell? How far are you into the book series?
Yea, like I have a whole bunch of shows I wanna watch. Thing with me is I binge watch shows if I get into it. I finished 4 seasons of Suits in a week and a half. I managed to watch season 1 of Breaking Bad, but don't seem to have the motivation to go oninto season 2. :/ Imp (Say Hi?!) 16:41, November 15, 2014 (UTC)
You said some things during the TSPTF page that offended the other party and helped create the impasse that we're at right now. In order to smooth relations over with everyone, I must ask you to apologize to cookie for calling him a 'degenerate pathetic troll'. If you can do this, I'm sure this situation will blow over quickly. Crim de la Crème 02:48, November 19, 2014 (UTC)
I never said I was letting it fly. Basically, he feels as if he's been attacked; he thinks you guys are in the wrong as much as he is. If you apologize, there's a good chance he'll apologize to the site and this whole thing will be done.