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I want to talk a bit about your thinking about communism because you think only about the cons of modern communism and not the pro's wake up make we are not in pre-historic times there was no pre-history Jesus was a communist and he want to unite and share all we want --Workers unite (talk) 17:46, April 24, 2016 (UTC)
Act of Ambition
This is a notifcation to say Act of Ambition (Map Game) the map game which you signed up for has started and therefore you can now post your first turn on this new game. Person67 (talk) 17:56, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
Cross and Cresent
Ethan you got overpowered by Nathan, I didn't know he was going to do that and I am very sorry of that.
I know we had a deal but Nathan did his thing before I told him.
I am trying to talk to Nathan about this
I am very sorry
I hate back stabbing (even thought I didn't do it)
Pls Don't think I planned this, because I didn't
I am sorry, so pls don't think I did this
Do forgive me. I was unaware that you were the creator of this timeline (assumed it was Nlenhardt's). That being said, the article in which Nlen wrote was highly inappropriate and well outside the norms of this wikia. Joking around is one thing, but submitting a series of "joke articles" will not be allowed.
I will be more than happy to revert your timeline's article, as I wrongfully assumed it was solely Nlen's doing. However, I will not revert his "joke article," as this will not be allowed. Please try to keep any future articles civil. The same can be true for file uploads, with the sole exception of user-specific ones (i.e., for your user page).
I have no intention of suspending you. Both because I was unaware of your involvement and that your main page was (for the most part) civil in nature. However, please be aware that your recent article is just as inappropriate as Nlen's. I will be removing this and please consider this a warning. -- NuclearVacuum 00:48, June 24, 2016 (UTC)
I'm not playing the game anymore. Rather than deal with the mod bias and refusal to acknowledge the player's developments in their nation, I decided to just let the game die on its own and do something protective with my time. So Benin has no player. :\ Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:48, September 8, 2016 (UTC)
http://mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/World_War:_1913_(Map_Game) the game has been moved due to a urgency to play-Orwell
MGW Saddam and the oilwells.
India's player is implausible and thinks the world would fold up and blindly accept a war of aggression 1 year after the booting of Saddam from Kuwait. Russia\USSR is an Indian ally, but Yeltsin would not blank check a major faith based war in Asia. I don't think he gets the political factor and thinks he's above world law and opinion. He would get his butt kicked in real life like Saddam had over OTL Kuwait. Chiltern Hills1 (talk) 16:15, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
He's using subterfuge and proxy war which is OK and he's trying to fined a clever way to take over in Africa. The Africans don't like neo-colonialism, but Belgium is at least not going to be lynched by the UN.Chiltern Hills1 (talk) 16:15, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
- The terminus-
Zaire and all player held Middle Eastern states (Turkey and Saudi) will be OK. I will end the game in 2 moves, next round Israel invades Lebanon and Syria. This causes a cause beli for a world war swilling around the region after that. The game will then be closed unless some one else wants to take it up as a ASB-post atomic holocaust thingy.Chiltern Hills1 (talk) 16:20, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
2002 is up on Alternate Europe - Custom Countries on the MGW wiki. Please post your turn.
Can u post this link on Future Wiki for me??? Ik u hate me probably, put The Future of Europes Wiki created a census for Their wiki, so I made one for Future. I am blocked or 2 more days. Please post this on a blog or some users message wall https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSckRZ9fW_vl2QEvFaZ4_r6rs5Nk7tLIcicMJE_S6KMUrkbnQQ/viewform
Can you go on the Alternate History chat plz?
Can you go on the AlternateHistoryChat?
Hey, can you go to althistory chat so we can discuss Rebuild: 2024? I am also going post this on all your favorite wiki pages so you will see atleast one of them.
I was going to invade Persia
I was going to invade Persia for a bigger pop and a stronger foothold on the middle east -Bozi
China would like to discuss an alliance with the Gurkania and aid in there reclemation of past glory. -Nova 04:50, December 17, 2016 (UTC)
Ban on chat
Don't trust Russia, they want you dead
Notice for RotA
You have signed up as a nation in the map game Rise of the Arabs (Map Game) this game will be opening at 9pm GMT Greenwich time. Please post your first turn within 24 hours. Person67 (talk) 13:41, December 27, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning. He said while I was there. I asked him for trade relations. So can we have an alliance or will it be too unrealistic ?
RE: chat ban
About PV4 (Again)
Hey can explain what Gunturism is all about ? And I will spare the Bahmani Sultanate. Now the Caliphate is telling me to stop my conquest of Bengal otherwise he will call in his allies in the southeast to attack me. I think the Caliphate is Sunni but Bahmani is Shia so how can Bahmani respond to Abbasid request ? I think only Siam is a Muslim nation in Indochina so this is very very peculiar, there is a great Sunni-Shia divide.
So Ok. We are intervening in southeast Asia. The Raj is stationing troops in Champa (50,000) and 100,000 helping Siam and trying to integrate Laos and conquering Dai Viet. I will be making an Algo.
sorry for the mix up of the Grey Wolf and the Nationalist Turkish government. I read it as Support is asked from the Nationalist Turkish. Hopefully you don't think i am conning you-Bozi
The Christians are attacking the Abbasids. Russia asked you to join them. Bulgaria will eventually do. I think Feud will have a war with them. Nate wont risk a two front war and now he is seriously limited after algo corrections(If this would have been the case then I would have continued with Bengal). Lets wait it out for this year and next year we both attack. I attack Bengal while keeping a presence on the Bahmani border and you attack the Caliphate and the Ottomans. I can get help from Majhaphit and invade Ava from Pegu. Bengal will fall in a year or two. Lets end this mortal caliphate. Dev271 (talk) 12:10, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
Rise of the Arabs (Map Game)
Can you please tell Person that you agreed with the referendum cuz he thinks your answer is unclear for some reason...
Join tank development
I have an even better idea, as i have French main battle tank AMX-30s and AMX-30Ds, we could use this and M48 Patton to develop a new indigenous tank, while i have M48 Patton and M47 Patton already. Development of our alliance's own MBT, since Vinny won't prolly help us. So what we need is a stealth turbine gas engine. And a bigger gun, the Israeli one is very good (IMI 120 mm gun)
The US are unlikley to back you because of Mexico, I don't know if you do trade sanctions and some naval and troop skirmishes you can probably be fine for now. Person67 (talk) 18:33, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
Panama to turkey
do you have any https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSV_machine_gun for trade, im going use them on trucks and such and which sould i use for the Standerd LMG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degtyaryov_machine_gun or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PK_machine_gun or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPK LIMEBOY67 (talk) 02:38, January 28, 2017 (UTC)
plz responed to my post on ROTA
Java and Banten
At first I believed Banten was Nathan's name for the Islamized Sunda kingdom which borders Java (see  and ). However, in the archives I see he specified that it is "The Banten region of south-central Sumatra", rather than Java. So he could be perhaps talking about the Lampung region as seen on this map: .
I think it would be best to ask him about it. Either way, the borders of Banten do not conflict with Java's, which controls the eastern part of the island.
About the War in PM4
Nate had betrayed you before. Dont let him do that now. Secondly my population is 110 million. And my max army size is 1,650,000. So there is now way you can rival me. As I had promised I will provide you Andaman and Nicobar islands and other territories. Just let me unify India. If you declare war on the Caliphate then my armies will help you as I dont need all of them taking care of the Bahmani. So just remain neutral or declare war on the Caliphate. I have allied myself with Burgundy. So if you want to regain Gurkani territory then you should ally with me.
Trade Deal In Red Papers
Hello, Im Teutonician and Im running the nation of Fengtian Clique a nation in China. I was seeking if we can form a type of trade deal that we can make together so we can have better international relations and so we can both use the imports we need. What I need is some military vehicles. As Im less developed as you and my techonology isn't as good as yours and also my factories I would like Opium, Aluminium which I have many of. For one thing of yours. Renault FT Tanks. Since its development in 1917 Fengtian Clique was impressed by this tank. We would like to use it for self defense and offense against other nations of China. Teutonician (talk) 21:45, March 6, 2017 (UTC)
That's how it took me by surprise as well. He just posted an algo on the talk page. I think he purposefully tried to slip under the radar. Now we have to decide how to proceed, and how to attack if necessary Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 17:10, March 10, 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your interest. However, I must inform you that this is still a work-in-progress and may be subjected to changes as the article progresses. So to answer your question, I haven't given much thought (aside from "better than OTL"). I've been using China as a template, but I feel this would not be a proper comparison in the long run. So for now, let's say "China-ish" (but still in the range of other BRICS countries).
Thanks for the kind words, hope you continue to enjoy the timeline!
As for Persia, there will definitely be the Sasanians at some point. Because Persia is one of the strongest nations and the center of the third largest religion, I'm envisaging Persia becoming a western version of China where the dynasty dynasty changes every now and then but doesn't really get conquered that much. Eventually the Sasanians will be replaced, and so will their successors, and so on. Hope that hope that answers your question!
Italian colony in ADR
Hi Warrior, i write this message at you for describe the Italian Colonial Empire of the Italian Republic (1870 - 1970s) and the Italian Colonial Empire of the Kingdom of Italy (1875 - 1900).
The territory of the Italian Colonial Empire woud be composed of (The flag are that use in the colonial time) :
- Comore (1870) (Flag used since the 1947)
- Maldives (1880) (Flag used since the 1947)
- Somalia (1884 - 1935) (Converted info the East Italian Africa) (Barre don't take power and instead a democratic republic is founded)
- Eritrea (1900 - 1935) (Converted info the East Italian Africa)
- Italian Concession of Tientsin (1900 - 1940)
- Micronesia (1900 - 1981) (Flag used between 1947 - 1981, in 1981 the Micronesia woud split info Palau, Marshall Islands, Republic of Micronesia and Northern Mariana Islands, all the nations with the exception of the Northern Mariana, voted in favor of become indipendence)
- Libya (1911 - 1975) (Gheddafi don't take power and instead a democratic republic is founded) (Flag used since the 1975, used by the Italian Libya between the 1947 - 1975) (The stip of Azoul woud be under Libyan control since the 1934)
- Dodecanese (1911 - 1974) (Flag used between the 1947 - 1974)
- Italian New Guinea (ex-German New Guinea pre 1899) (1918 - 1983) (The Italian and the British New Guinea woud be united in 1983 for former the otl Papua New Guinea) (Flag used since the 1983, used by the Italian New Guinea between the 1947 - 1983)
- Ethiopia (1935 - 1978) (In 1978 Eritrea and Somalia woud each other separate from Ethiopia and the three states become democratic republics)
- East Italian Africa (1935 - 1978) (Created after the war again Ethiopia with the union of Somalia and Eritrea, in the 1978 the three governorate of Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia become indipendence)
And for the colony of the Kingdom of Italy they woud be :
- Eritrea (1885 - 1900)
- Micronesia (1899 - 1900)
The Kingdom of Italy woud be collapse in the 1900 after the mudurer of king Umberto I by Gaetano Bresci, this will lead at many revolts and fight between the citizens and the order forces, at the end the revolutionary woud be win and declare their unity with the Italian Republic.
I woud leave at you if you wanna the write the history of this country after there indipendence but remember that:
Italian is used as official language with the native language or as sole official language;
Italians woud be a large minority of that population, for his connection their ex-settlers and their ex-colonial power;
The important people who have change the history of their countries (Like Gheddafi) here they woud remain in their pre-power positions or in an other position that don't involve dictator;
All the ex-Italian colony woud be member of the CIS (Community of the Italophone States, IT Comunità degli Stati Italofoni);
The ethnic difference between the italians and the natives of the colonize land woud be like in France, with a large minority from their ex-colony;
The indipendence will be all peaceful and without huge problems, but still some riots or protest woud be happend, and at the end in most of the countries this woud be resolve with a referendum for decide if remain with Italy or leave;
I can write, modificate and change things >of your works if they don't follow the series;
For the colony that woud remain under Italian control (Comore, Maldives and North Mariana Islands), they woud create and write by me, but i woud accept suggestions by you;
In Somalia, Comore and in Maldives it woud be present a more high percentual of catholic and non-religious, but still under the 5-10% and under the 0-5%.
User: Col. James Hsu (22:30, 30/03/17, GMT +1)
Re: Guardians Questions
Thank you for the continued interest and praise! I'm sorry for replying to you so late after you asked, I'm studying abroad and was in the countryside with no internet for over two weeks and when I got back the wikia no longer works on my computer for some reason, so I have to edit piecemeal whenever I can using my phone.
Regarding your question, I think it safe to assume that East Africa, and Ethiopia especially, will be more Christian than in OTL. This is because of a stronger Christian presence in what is now Yemen, so while Zoroastrianism will also move to East Africa it will have more opposition compared to Islam.
That being said, Ethiopia and Yemen will both be quite diverse and it is likely both will have sizable Zoroastrian and Jewish minorities. Whether these countries are tolerant of these minorities remains to be seen.
In terms of colonialism, there will almost certainly be a colonial period, but unfortunately I can't provide much more than that at this time. What nations become colonial powers and what their colonial priorities are can only come about as the timeline develops. This is currently speculation, but the Americas may experience less colonialism and thus become colonizers themselves whereas Africa and Asia may be more affected than OTL. However, we can only wait and find out. There will be a post-colonial period as well, but whether it is better or worse than OTL also remains to be seen.
I hope that answers your questions, and feel free to ask me more!
Re: Principia question
Everything Ethiopian will survive the struggle. This current disaster by the despot Murad will kill up to 100,000 people, but that won't put a dent in the 15 million Amharics already. I'm glad you have been keeping up with the posts, that makes you more diligent than feud now! lol Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 19:42, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
It's a local religion, with values from Islam and Christianity but string together like in Buddhism. It's named after a famous figure in the region. Sidewinder291102 (talk) 23:43, May 10, 2017 (UTC)Sidewinder291102
Sure thing, I have a bunch of missionaries in Korea-CHina and the Philippines, so I don't think it would be unreasonable to send a few to the Laotian court. I'll get onto it next turn! Callumthered (talk) 02:59, May 13, 2017 (UTC)
Ethiopia's medieval population
Ethiopia had a population of 11 million in 1900 just as it was beginning to adopt European practices. So it is safe to safe the population was perhaps no greater than 5-6 million around 1600. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:48, May 18, 2017 (UTC)
Qing in TBAC
I haven't given much thought to the Qing lately, or really TBAC in general. Thinking about it, a Meiji-style modernization may not happen since, even without the Brits and Americans, Europe still saw China as a resource to be exploited rather than a valuable ally or trading partner. If the Qing refuse to modernize, they just might implode anyway, albeit a bit later since there aren't any, or less likely a smaller-scale version with the Dutch, Opium Wars.
PMIV Situation in SE Asia
Greetings. I hear talk of confronting Dai Viet as their plans threaten the stability of the region correct? How can I be of assistance, and who is playing as Dai Viet anywho?
Well, I am glad that you are interested in my timeline and I will work on your suggestion. Also, I am sorry for replying late. You can edit the timeline and add events of your own, if you want to. Also, as you read it can you just point out the ASB parts. Also, it is not a balkanizee timeline, so I am searching up stuff to create bigger nations as well.
Hello, my friend
I have again received a negative mod event. You had helped me with my first negative mod event. I post this message to request you to advise me, on how to deal with this mod event.
I am here to ask to you if you are fine since i haven't seen you in a while on the chat and i don't want you to have troubles so please contact me and leave me a message as soon as posibile11:24, July 14, 2017 (UTC)
Re: Leaving the wiki
I'm very sorry to hear you feel that way. What's more important than anything else you feel, I only hope I honestly did my best to help you through your hard times and make your stay on the wiki better. I never pulled you in any religious direction, intentionally that is. While you were agnostic, you came to me to hear more about the Gospel message, and the rest was all your own decisions. The reason I instructed you in Christianity was because that was the best way I knew to handle stress and deal with the trouble you delt with. So really your best intentions is the only thing ever I hoped for.
Btw, even if you aren't on the wiki, I would honestly love to still talk to you through Discord if you were interested. You have always been one of the people I enjoyed most about the community.Oh, I didn't mean to push that button! † Oh, well leave a message I guess 04:44, August 22, 2017 (UTC)
You are not Egypt. Stop posting as it. You are banned from the game 30 days for nation theft.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 05:23, December 27, 2017 (UTC)
You cannot create a rebellion inside another nation and play as it.
Scrawland Scribblescratch 08:13, December 28, 2017 (UTC)
It's all good. What nation are you going to play?
Scrawland Scribblescratch 21:51, January 19, 2018 (UTC)
Texas and New England
Hello, I play as New England in Principia Moderni IV. I saw that Texas is socialist and I was wondering if you could help me. I have a socialist presence in my borders and with your help maybe I could install them in power. And in general I would like to work with Texas and improve relations. -Luigi899
Welcome to Principia Moderni IV (Map Game)
Alexander the Liberator
I apologize for the delayed response, I even suffer from writer's block when I write responses. I say this to anyone interested in Alexander the Liberator, but I will say it again; I really do appreciate your interest in the timeline.
I agree with your statement that Russia was undergoing major development, but the Tsar still refused reform. Nonetheless, the Soviet regime that followed the monarchy was far worse and created more problems. I imagine that the Russian economy would be similar to Australia and Germany, but not exactly alike. The economy would be problematic, but it is stable and gives the Russian people more opportunities. Nonetheless, Russia is a very rich nation in this timeline and they enjoy a good standard of living.
The Cold War in this timeline is somewhat similar to the Cold War of our timeline, but this time it is Communist America vs. Tsarist Russia. The idea of Leon Trotsky becoming President sounds unrealistic, but keep in mind that Communists are very good propagandists (the only thing they are truly good at) and Trotsky, who was charismatic, could have won over the American voters in the midst of the Great Depression. Without a Bolshevik uprising, a Communist revolution was bound to happen regardless, it mattered where.
And I like your idea of a German Liberation Army. I never though of it, but I thought that a Tsarist Russia would try to reestablish the Kingdom of Prussia instead of establishing East Germany.
As I have stated on NuclearVacuum's talk page, I have been thinking of revamping the timeline. There are aspects that make me uncomfortable and disregard some of the canon that I established. These include:
- Status of Vardar Macedonia: Bulgaria does not get involved in the First World War as I plan for the country to gain control over Vardar Macedonia following the timeline's version of the Balkan Wars. I see no reason for Bulgaria to involve herself in the Second World War (unless to not have Hitler's armies march through Sofia) as the country has Macedonia.
- Borders of Alaska: In this timeline, Alaska is established by the Anti-Trotsky military lead by General Dwight David Esienhower. I do not believe that this Alaska would have the OTL borders of the state of Alaska, I do think that the country would be larger in area. Much of Alaska is cold for many anyhow.
- Prime Ministers of Russia: I am not too sure about this one, I think that Russia may have had more than twelve Prime Ministers if Tsar Alexander and Witte were able to establish a Westminister style parliament.
Those are the main things that I want to revamp. I think that I could change a little more of the timeline, as I want to make it as realistic as possible (even with President Trotsky). Some of the important aspects of the timeline will be left unchanged, such as the assassination of Tsar Nicholas II in 1905, Communist America, ideological changes for major figues (such as a Communist Ted Cruz and a nationalist Josip Broz Tito), and Josef Stalin never gaining any major power.
Re:New Union Living Standards
Thank you so much for your question and interest in the New Union timeline. I'm currently inactive on the timeline, but I will be more than happy to answer your question. Please forgive me for the delayed response.
You are correct in that the simple answer is "better than OTL." For a more detailed answer, I believe the USSR would have a HDI roughly equivalent to that of Western Europe (but this is only generally speaking). Because of how big the USSR is, expect gaps across the nation. The richest areas (e.g., Moscow and Saint Petersburg) would be much higher than average, while the poorest areas (e.g., Tajikistan) would be lower than average, but higher than in OTL (due to being in a larger economy).
The Soviet economy would still be one of the largest in the world. The 1990s would see the economy begin to improve and surpass Japan (once again). Today, the USSR is roughly at the same place as Japan, but is still much smaller than the USA and China. My guess is that the economy today is stable (if not increasing).
Like I mentioned before, I'm currently inactive in the timeline. So what I say here may change down the line. I have intentions to completely revamp the timeline in the future. But I do hope this helps out.
War to End all wars
Hi, I only just noticed the sign up policy on the map game and I would like to just be able to play as Germany, I know this sounds like I believe myself to be intitled but I'd you could let me have a go at being Germany it would be greatly appreciated.
(Note: This.is for Map Game Wiki)
I see you are a fan of Duke Devon German Heritage timeline. I am a fan of his 1989 war timeline. The timeline is collaborate but beside devon and me their was only one other guy on the timeline and he made only one article. If you are interested you should let dukedevon know before you make an article. I also like disusing my idea with somebody before i make an article so I can help devople it. Devon has been two busy with German hergiate to discus my ideas lately so will be willing to her them out
Thank you so much! It’s nice to see that others are enjoying my timeline.
To answer your question - Yes. I’m planning to have German Colonialism last until the early 60s, similar to OTL France. With these 50+ years more of German Occupation, there would definitely be a stronger German influence over the continent. As you’ve said, even Namibia still retains a little pocket of the German language and influence, and it’s been a hundred years since the Germans owned it.
So yes, in many ways German is similar to the French or English languages of our timeline. Think of all the nations that speak French that would speak German - Madagascar, both Congos, Cameroon, the CAR, Togo and Western Africa. I was also thinking of a sort of German equivalent of the Organisation internationale de la Francophonie as well.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the feedback. Military uniforms aren’t my strong point, so it’s good to have some insight. Funny enough, I’m going to make some changes to the West Russian history at some point - it’s a pretty daunting task and in some ways it’s hard to get information about the post-WW2 white emigre movement.
As for the rump USSR, I agree, it would effectively be like East Germany - stagnant, with need for reform.
As you enjoy my timeline, I’ll give you a few thoughts and teasers about the rework 😛😛:
- Vasily Maklakov, known among the emigre as “having a front-rank reputation and talent for mediation allowed that Maklakov (rather than better-known but controversial men like Kerensky and Miliukov) to manoeuvre between the many warring factions that made up the Russian émigré community and to represent their interests in dealing with the French government”, becomes the first democratic prime minister of Russia in 1947 and establishes the parliamentary system.
- In the 1950s, a proto-fascist movement inspired by the works of Ivan Ilyin gains power in Russia after the election (such as National Alliance of Russian Solidarists). Possibly led by Victor Mikhailovich Baidalakov or Poremsky, Vladimir Dimitrievich. The movement was surprisingly liberal - The NTS included not only Russians but other traditional peoples of Russia (e.g., Georgians, Balts, Kalmyks), hence the organization used the term Rossijane (россияне; meaning "peoples of Russia") rather than Russkie (русские; meaning "ethnic Russians") in their political programs. The NTS form an ideology similar to that of Portuguese Fascism or Austrofascism.
I’ll be interested to see what you think.
Again thanks for your ideas - the pictures of the ROA are especially useful, I’ll try and add them into the timeline. It seems quite likely that there would be an implementation of the stahlhelm in the Russian Army. For example, in otl, the Stahlhelm M35, M40 and M42 became used by other nations such as Latvia, Lithuania, Bolivia, Columbia and others. Germany would likely want Russia as a military ally, so Germanisation is very likely.
Your point about the paramilitary is good, however I would kinda disagree about the rural base of the NTS - the de-collectivisation reforms would have taken place before the NTS come to power, by the Kadet government of Vasily Maklakov. By the time the NTS come to power, the farmers would have already received their land and would likely be more supportive of the Kadets, however no doubt some would support the NTS, which supports a time gone by.
When it comes to liberalisation, I think it would likely come in the 1970s, maybe by a liberal-minded successor.
hello im the previous poland player you shouldn't make alexander ier die already hes continue to rule yk
Oh really, I didn’t realise that, thanks for the advice. I’ll change it. 👍 DukeDevon“Until we talk again!”